Liverpool Banter Archive January 27 2014

27 Jan 2014 23:26:27
Anyone worrying about Tom Ince joining, relax, its never going to happen. Never.

27 Jan 2014 23:04:08
According to the mirror Brendan not happy with the owners for not backing him in the salah deal

Hey, that'd the Mirror
Daily Manchester United
Mischief making again

The same story is everywhere, I'm guessing this is the story they wanted embargoed at the press conference today. The real question I have is why embargo it until 10.30pm tonight, would it be that Rodgers wanted this put out at this time of night so it couldn't be stopped for the morning papers. Just can't think of another reason to embargo it?

Looks like he really wanted salah and they didn't back him with a realistic valuation of the player!

They did back him on Salah, I told you last week he was waiting for a 'better' offer. He CHOSE to join Chelsea. He expected more offers and we would have been about 4th/5th choice. Not the type of player i'd sign personally.

Well they backed him up to a point as Rodgers said but they "the money men" wouldn't pay what it took and couldn't get the deal done and I'm sure he wouldn't be putting it out there if it wasn't true.

We need a CM anyway.

He`s talking some mad s***t. I`m a HUGE Br fan because of the way he`s made us one of the most feared teams in the country capable of droppin 3-4-5 goals on haters for fun. BUT Rodgers had better be careful about what he says about these owners. Firing KK showed that they don`t f**k around and they will not tolerate failure and/or insubordination. And what`s he talking about not getting support. He wanted Borini, Allen, Sakho, Migs, Sturridge totalling about 65-70m and he got them all. Just because we didn`t get a kid who only used us as bait to get his dream move should not remove from this fact and doesn`t warrant any criticism of the owners. He really needs to watch his mouth at some point.

27 Jan 2014 22:50:52
Not really lfc related but Evertons new loan signing traore is he eligble 4 the derby on Tuesday hope not because with his height set pieces could b a nightmare thanks eds and reds

{Ed001's Note - yes he is.}

Has been out for a while with injury
He will make the bench at best

He's not big enough to shake the ol' slovakian shirt hold.

From what I've seen, for a 6'8" guy, he's quite poor aerially.

27 Jan 2014 21:32:59
Hi Eds, love the site have been a reader for years.
I can't believe we are just about to push on to cement a CL spot and we have no-one to come in and give us that bit of impact, sure a million extra here or there would be rewarded and returned during the summer AFTER we qualify.
Failing the above we will just fade away as Luis will walk and the message from LFC will be just also rans when this is within our grasp.
Tom Ince is desperate if not old news regurgitated.
It does sound good when the gaffer tells us that if no-one comes in it will galvanise us. when was the last time he played in a injury depleted team heading for the CL just about to run out of steam and ideas. HELP FSG
ONE LAST ROLL OF THE DICE PLEASE

27 Jan 2014 21:16:32
eds and fellow reds,
just wanted to know, what is a comment embargo? what does that mean? and hearing rumours we are in for konoplyanka. I think he looks very good maybe like another coutinho but kono actually she shoots and makes goals from distance and close up. havnt heard anything recently about yarmolenko but think he is good attacking threat as well. deffinitly more than anything we need some steel in the midfield? recently hearing of de jong and inler? eds any true interest in any of these targets? also believe gary medel from cardiff would be a good option

{Ed001's Note - they just mean they aren't going to discuss certain things.}

27 Jan 2014 21:46:10
we started the season with 4 midfielder

of these four lucas and allen injury prone and gerrard ageing

i suggeted we were light one or 2 in midfield then



now we have 2 fit midfielder and injured lucas and allen who isn't quite fit yet

the club has had six long months to have midfielders lined up to join this window . there are no excuses really. the players weren't available . poor excuse. chelsea seem to have been able to do business fairly easily, everton have done business relatively easily and we are left one injury away from basically catastrophe

its so bad. 3 weeks ago we were challnging for the title and with 3 top sgnings sorted this window we still could have been. it was there for the taking . we really could have been challenging for top spot.
and very safely in the top four. instea we are worryingly looking over our shoulder at the chasing pack and face thefight of a lifetime to keep them at bay

to say I am currently disgusted by the clubs lack of ambition is an understatment

a very disillusioned fan

Cheer up
There's something worse than not signing a player, and that's signing someone that turns out to be cr*p. We've had plenty of those over the years.
I'm sure BR knows exactly what we need, I'm sure he would loved to have signed Salah and Fernando Reges, which is what he needed.
However these deals have not happened, probably because we could not afford them and because they didn't want to come.
BR is not the most astute in the transfer market, I'm glad he's learning to be more cautious in the transfer market, and I'm sure the club is trying to bring in quality to improve the 1st 11. However, if they cannot this window, then I would rather fringe players (Alberto etc) are given the chance rather than bring in poor quality players. The net result will not be any different, we have to hope that our key players return to fitness so we can make a strong push in the final half of the season

I agree in part with your post tom but I am not disgusted or disillusioned with the club. I just find it hard to understand why we didn't buy a robust central midfielder either in the summer or at the start of the Jan window when it was clear we needed one.

Go

they had six months to sort it out

six whole months

and all we get are excuses

Oh and go

united are chasing reges for 6.5 million as we speak according to some sources

As the saying goes, fail to prepare and you may as well prepare to fail.
We haven't prepared ourselves for the second half of the season and the one area we needed a player we have made no movement but chased a player who was never going to come to Anfield.
May as well enjoy Suarez while you can because he won't be here next season with no CL football.

The Fa cup(or should that be f*** all cup?) and sixth place isn't going to make up for that.

In the summer, we bought 3 center backs, 2 forwards, a goalkeeper and loaned in a left back and a winger. If we didn't see another center mid as necessary in the summer when we had more time, more money, and better odds of finding a reasonable target, why do you think we would now?

Reges is a good player who would suit us, don't worry though we got "glass" Joe Allen and an ageing Steven Gerrard. That should be enough apparently, that and a bucket load of faith.

Sorry richard yes I just cannot fathom why we didn't push the boat out this window and sign 1-2 quality players to ensure top four

Yeap

i am pretty concerned

i just can't understand when we were in touching distance of the title itself why we wouldn't go and spend a few quid on 2 players for the starting 11

now rumours have united chasing reges fora measly 7 million

but our owners have previous when it comes to leaving us short of layers like when we let carroll go and didn't replace him. this has me worried that its going to be the same story all over again

Thanks tom. Maybe with PSG buying cabaye this might free up a player for us to try and loan. Come on LFC, no time for chatting to the media. Go out there and get a deal done!

It's not a matter of hoping for a loan of one of Psg's cast offs, what's the point of loaning say for example Menez or pastore, when the position we are lacking in is centre midfield? Neither of them are going to stop teams dominating us, FFS we have been dominated in midfield by Villa and Bournemouth in our last two games, yet still the club pursue this Salah person.

27 Jan 2014 20:13:03
Eds 001. You seem to be really deflated in your responses and subsequently demeanour with regards to all things Liverpool FC at the moment. We all feel your pain my friend. If FSG just sanctioned a couple of signings i.e Shaqiri and Romelu I really think top 4 would be ours. I firmly believe the and Spurs to kick on second half of season and leave us licking our wounds and I really believe we could finish 6 or 7th. Do u really believe eds 001 we won't make a signing before deadline day? And tom ince doesent count

{Ed001's Note - I just can't see it, unless the purse strings are loosened a bit, or we target players actually wanting to join us and willing to make a deal happen.}

27 Jan 2014 21:18:46
Before today I respected Moyes as a manager. He did extremely well on a shoe-string budget at Everton, and I have huge respect for him for that. But today he just joined a long list of managers on a topic I just don't like seeing. That topic is buying some of the best players in the world in there prime. Not just Mata, I don't mind that, but the fact he said more big names will come really bugged me. I mean don't get me wrong, every manager would do it, but its just a pet hate I have. For me it shows a lack of managerial ability, because literally anyone with a knowledge of football can put a top quality team out like that and win. One thing I admired about Fergie was the fact that he bought youngsters (similar to Rodgers) and turned them into world class players. I love managers who do this as they can see potential and make them world class. But as I said managers that just buy the best because they're guaranteed quality is a bit of an easy way out, and it doesn't necessarily make a good manager. Buying one or two big names to build a team around is fine, I don't mind that, but just buying the best players is buying success, not earning it.
Cheers,

If you are a big club with big ambitions then you need big players. If you want to win the EPL you should be looking at every player in your first 15-16 players and asking yourself "Do I see this player as good enough to win the EPL" If the answer is no get rid and replace.

I had to laugh at him. He come out and said how he couldn't believe HE had pulled it off (the deal for Mata, not his penis), then a couple of questions later had to admit it was Woodward who sorted it. Muppet (or puppet:)

Yeah I see what you mean Red Linen, it's just that you don't need ready made players all the time, growing a player into a world class player proves your managerial credentials more in my view.

But ChiefScout! That really made my day! And the fact that it's in brackets just makes it ten times funnier! Take a bow son!
Cheers,

I actually just properly laughed at that ChiefScout. Not something I usually find myself doing reading this site with all the negativity.

I actually just properly laughed at that ChiefScout. Not something I usually find myself doing reading this site with all the negativity.

27 Jan 2014 20:54:59
Why are we not making a statement go and buy some quality brendan, because we need champs league, we have our best chance for years, for me the legend Stevie is sadly coming to an end so go and get someone like cabaye before there's a big void, heard Newcastle will accept 20 mill, why not? West ham took a lot of junk of us recently and wages, that takes care of itself, a quality player no doubt or Lallana and shaw

We lost money selling Carroll to West Ham (~3.75M worth of it, ~19M amortized book value sold for ~15.4M minus a loyalty bonus of 150k) and likely lost money on Downing as well (although I haven't done the maths on that one, just glancing at it quickly).

We lost a fortune but Carroll, cole, and downing are all poor players with big wages off the wage bill thankfully, freeing the wage bill up for a good player who's Liverpool class

I wasn't suggesting he was one to keep, just that some see it as 15.4M gained in the summer when in reality it was 3.75M lost.

In my opinion, until we actually start making a profit on some player sales we're simply not going to have a lot of cash to spend on incoming players. Our list of transfers out is awful and almost all of them for the past several years have been either negative or net 0 if we were lucky.

27 Jan 2014 20:07:31
4 Days left. sounds like a film title!

There is still time to make some impact in the market. I haven't heard but someone posted possibility of Shaqiri loan? That would be excellent. The Ukrainian winger (can't spell the name, sorry) is also a great signing if it happens and even Tom Ince. if he comes and shows the confidence with which he takes defences on then we will be in for a treat. never mind he was here once.

But again, the word IF plays a big part in all my conjectures. here's hoping. if it happens we will not only get top4, we will upset a few 'richer' teams too and that would be lovely jobley!

P.S. IMO Mata, as good as he is, is a kneejerk signing, ManU need defenders because their defenders are mostly well past their best and they will leak goals. surprised Moyes has not spotted this, perhaps he has but is too desperate to sign someone of note.
YNWA. keep everything crossed guys!

Yeah, no. No, united needed a midfielder.
They got Juan mata, but don't worry, they need about five matas.

27 Jan 2014 19:38:33
I think if Cabaye goes to PSG, then Pastore could well be available for a loan move. I read a rumour about us asking about his availability, would be an absolute dream signing if we could swing this one our way, even for a few months.

Have you even watched psg this or last year? Because pastore is playing really bad. No pace slow
On the ball, has low accurate passing percentage. he's NOT what we need ill promise you that

The main prob with poster is that they name ll these players like Mvila and Pastore and it is clear that thy have NO idea who they are nor have never seen them play. because if they had like me, they will know that they are as useless as a dead door nail.

27 Jan 2014 19:26:27
Just a general opinion thing:

Who is considered the better player?

Konoplyanka or Yarmolenko?

Depends on who you ask. For me personally, it would be Konoplyanka.

I don't think either is better they just have different strengths and weaknesses

And I prefer Yarmolenko

KONO is absolute class

27 Jan 2014 19:17:00
One word sums up this site at the moment. PANIC.
Why the panic, so what if we have not bought anyone.
I am not that bothered as I think we still have enough players to cope while the injuries clear up.
I have stopped the ciggies this month but some of your comments are pushing me close to the edge!
I am a nervous wreck. so for my sanity alone. Behave will you's.

I panic because our competitors have strengthened and we have lost key players to injury captain Manering.

Could not have said it better jonny lad keep calm and support your team reds!

We panic-bought and got Carroll for 35m. Nuff said!

27 Jan 2014 17:48:22
ssn reports we have made enquiry for Konoplyanka.
Looks a good substitute for Salah.
vrcomp
Y.N.W.A.

Dude where did u here that? He's way better than salah, I haven't seen it anywhere on ssn

He's a better player than Salah

He'd be a much better option. If we couldn't tie up Salah, there's more chance of platting fog than there is in signing this guy.

Ssn have said they think we are interested, Eds has said that it was last summer though?

Lol 'platting fog' - got to say Ozone I laughed at that one!

27 Jan 2014 17:25:59
just wondering what everyones opinion is regarding our first choice 11. with a fully fit and on form squad i'm just wondering who you would look to replace. I have confidence that mingolet will grow into a great keeper, i'm happy with our options at center half, enrique and johnson on form are very good modern day fullbacks, suarez and sturridge r great, coutinhio played centerally is a no brainer, lucas shows his importance when he's out the team, henderson plays himself into the team wich leaves 1 or 2 positions to fill. i'm hoping sterling or ibe will develop into 2 cracking wide players and hope allen grows into the player he was at swansea. the point i'm making is that 1 - i'm totally undiceded with our bench and that's what's cost us so far this season and 2 - i'm unsure if borini, aspas, assaidi, alberto, lori ect have been a total waste of money. i'd like to think that rodgers sees all of these players in his plans in the future and i'd like to think they will be. its a fine line between thinking were miles off the pace or half a season away from having a a fully developed squad. what do u think?

27 Jan 2014 18:25:55
In the first XI, right back and central midfield would be the two areas I'd look at as a priority.

RB: Jonno has limitations and they were magnified by him playing with an injury this season. Might want to consider moving him on. I don't trust Kelly to remain fit. Flanno could do it, but there's a differnce between playing well a few games and being told you're now the club's senior right back. I really can't be sure he'd make the step up, although with Jonno now out possibly for the season, we might find out if Flanno can play every game. It's also a problem that if McLoughlin's becomes as good as current potential suggests, he might just displace anyone new we buy in a couple of seasons anyway. Not completely sure what the best option is. How we cover Jonno between now and the end of the season will probably dictate what we do in the summer.

CM: Lucas & Hendo are fine as starters. Allen I don't think has quite enough quality to nail down a first team place and play every game. As a squad player though, he's absolutely fine, people will just have to get over the £15m price tag and accept that a couple of seasons of filling gaps and rotating in is how he's going to repay that fee. Alberto looks good when he plays, but for some reason Rodgers doesn't seem to be prepared to give him more than a few minutes at a time. Gerrard and Coutinho are problematic for me. Neither have had a good season, but I wouldn't want to discard them, because they both clearly have a lot of ability. I think it's a position issue with Gerrard, and he would play well if played as an attacking midfielder, but I have no way of knowing that for sure. Not sure what's wrong Coutinho. We could consider bringing in another creative mid (and obv. a defensive one, but that'd be for squad depth rather than first XI), but I don't think he'd outright replace any one player, he'd likely be rotated with Hendo & Gerrard.


Rest of the team:

I have doubts about Mignolet, he is the best in the league on his day, but he makes a lot of mistakes and has been lucky to get away with most of them. Wouldn't look to replace him now (unless Reina could be persuaded to stay :p) but certainly one to keep an eye on.

I'm happy with Enrique at left back, I don't really get all the hate for him. Only problem is he's been injured most of the season.

Centre halves, the talent is there - we should just play Sakho and Agger there as first choice. Unfortunately, it's been rare we've been able to do that. Skrts and Toure would be fine as backup, but I don't expect Skrtel to be happy with that, unless Agger is sidelined a lot. The wild card is Illori, we don't know how good he is because he hasn't played a minute of competitive footie for us yet. So if you ship out Skrtel, and then Agger gets injured (as often happens, albeit a bit less than a couple of years ago), he could be on the bench and potentially be not up to it. We do have Kelly (although like Agger I worry about his fitness) and Wisdom, but they've never played centre-half for more than half an hour at a time for us. The most coldly logical thing to do would be sell Agger and Skrtel and buy in another first team CB to partner Sakho. But I really don't want to sell Agger.

Centre-mid. See above.

Attack. My first choice attack would be Suarez, Sturridge and Sterling. Suarez and Sturridge nearly pick themselves, and I like Sterling a lot. He's reacted well to being out of the team, and as well as that, he's quite happy to go around the outside as well as cut inside, whereas everyone else we have cuts inside all the time, which is important because it stretches the opposition defence more. They're all good enough to be playing every game. So is Coutinho on his day, either as part of the front three or part of the midfield three, but as above, his form has been poor this season. Backup's a bit of a problem. Aspas is not going to cut it here. Borini might, but would you want to depend on it? Assaidi will be sold at the end of the season. Ibe's untested, but I'd like to see him get more game time. Definitely an area we could invest in from a squad point of view, but I'm okay with our first choice players atm.

27 Jan 2014 17:02:33
Hi Eds,
Just wondering where the Tom Ince rumours have resurfaced from? Is it poor journalism or is there anything in it?
Also what are your thoughts on the player. Adds depth for me, but not so sure he would have a major influence on the starting 11.

{Ed001's Note - his dad. Tom has developed into an attitude problem who is leaving purely because they desperately want him out of Blackpool. All down to his dad.}

So why are we dabbling with the brat or is it just a load of trash?

27 Jan 2014 16:53:55
Anyone's help is appreciated, I'm just wanting to know every/any players born in Liverpool that are under 25? I can only think of a few, for example I think Callum mcmanaman is. Any players in the football leagues would be perfect, thanks!

Ross Barkley

Coady, Spearing, Robinson

27 Jan 2014 16:23:29
hi all

i rather Liverpool sign a player we need, rather then panic buy and regret it after
still got time but I still think top 4 is achievable without a player coming in.
its not always about signings its about working as a team
TEAM WORK

YNWA
who agrees?
ed/s true

Why hould we be needing to panic buy

we have had 4 senior midfielders since summer

thats 6 months to lineup midfielders that were always going to be needed

chelsea have no problem finding available players. lack of players being available is a poor excuse

Ayre says LFC aren't going to be held to ransom but is it ransom when LFC are low balling & teams only want market value for "THEIR" player who they don't have to or want to sell?

27 Jan 2014 16:17:30
Hi Eds

Watched Saul Niguez last night for Rayo Vallecano. Scored an own goal and got booked. He was playing centre back by all accounts but surley we have better options than this 10yo?

Posted this at 8am this morning. Should be 19yo

He's aged quickly, tough paper round?

27 Jan 2014 15:50:04
I am having another rant. so here we go.

Why is it that we seem more intent on signing sponsorship deals than players at the moment?.

The squad is stretched paper thin and we have a great chance of a top 4 spot yet we continue to dilly dally yet again over valuations - what is going on? If we can't afford/ agree to 11million for the "New Messi" We will end up having great sponsorship deals but not CL football. We need to get our finger out immediately!

I would imagine the two things are not linked, the people who try and broker deals for players are most likely not the same people who broker deals for sponsorship. And at the end of the day all these sponsorship deals can only be a good thing with regards to the new financial fair play rules coming in

27 Jan 2014 17:00:05
who knows how salah will turn out. maybe well end up calling him the ''the new Mido''. just sayin

Salah - the new jermaine pennant

The "New blah blah" doesn't always work out - remember the "New Zidane" we signed in Bruno Cheyrou or the "New Platini" in Le Tallec? Personaly I don't think Salah will get the game time at Chelsea to show anything and will be out on load come next Jan.

The sponsorships are a good thing, the more the merrier and it's good news financially too. But we do need a CM more than anything.

They seem intent on bringing monies in but spending little.
Its all a strategy to put the club on a good financial footing to sell on.
My opinion.

27 Jan 2014 15:43:42
Just watched Rodgers in press conference and I have to say it has left me very frustrated. He stated once again that he only wishes to bring in a player to improve the team but says it's very difficult during this window. That's fair enough as we have enough fringe players, the problem I have is that there are players out there it's just this transfer committee places low valuations on players. Now I don't want to slag off the owners as I think there doing a great job in the other areas of the club but they have stated that we can compete for the right player in the transfer market but this is clearly not true as we have missed out on a number of targets the last couple of windows. It seems to me that we are trying to find another sturidge or coutinho in the £8-12 million bracket, we got very lucky with both those players but the other ones we have tried have failed, Aspas, Borini, Alberto, ilori, roughly £30 million wasted on these players who have hardly kicked a ball for us this season a few extra and we could of maybe got Mata or a player of that caliber .

Anyone else have thoughts?

As you say, there is an argument to be made that we perhaps didn't spend very wisely in the summer, unfortunately. I'm not sure how that translates to being the owners fault though.

I would consider that perhaps it's not low valuations so much as it is lack of available funds. If the club ends up FY2013-2014 with a giant chunk of money left over, then I'll be the first criticize the lack of spending this window, but I seriously doubt that will be the case. Look at Carroll alone- selling him was a loss of near 3.75M this year (balance of roughly 19M still on the books for his amortized value plus 150k loyalty bonus for which we got ~15.4M back). Point being, until we either find a way to increase income in a major way or actually sell some players at a profit, cash will continue to be tight.

I'm not slagging the owners as I said I think they are doing a great job, it's managing of the fans expectations, they shouldn't be stating that they can compete with the top teams in the transfer market when we clearly can't. I for one would prefer Rodgers to have said today that we are struggling to find a player that can come into the first 11 on our tight budget. I for one would prefer to hear an honest answer and it might help quell the dissatisfaction of the fans over the lack of signings.

27 Jan 2014 15:33:31
I hope no potential signing reads this site why on earth would they want to come to Liverpool to get so much abuse, for those on here who still have the nerve to call Everton fans bitter it might be time to look in the mirror. Que the abusive replies.

The Agger - Inler swap deal sounds too good to be true, not that I have anything against Agger a very good player in my opinion and one that has proved his loyalty to the club more than once, but his body keeps letting him down plus we have cover at center back but lack any in the midfield. Maybe with the break even rules coming in soon swap deals could be seen as a viable option for clubs.

27 Jan 2014 15:25:46
Guessing the news they're trying to keep underwraps until 10:30 is something to do with the airline deal?

Doubtful as its already been announced. can't see that there is anything else to be said about it. Unless there is something big sponsor wise going on, ie stadium naming or the like.

Well I doubt that as the airline deal is all over the official website!

27 Jan 2014 15:13:51
Hi all, had to get this off my chest. I for one am ecstatic with the job Rodgers has done so far at Liverpool, and I believe in him 100% but, who ever come up with the idea of 'valuing a player and not exceeding that value' is stupid! That is not the way to do business in football, not in this day and age. I don't think Suarez is worth more than £50m. Ronaldo wasn't worth £80m and bale wasn't worth £90m. No player is worth that amount of money, but, that's what football has turned to, you are paying stupid amounts of money for top players and if you want to win trophies and (in Liverpools sake) get top 4, then you have to spend big money on quality players! And I'm tired of us losing out in players due to the fact that we won't meet the valuation of the player because 'somebody' in the Liverpool staff doesn't think he's worth the amount there asking for! Suarez isn't worth the £100m Liverpool are wanting for him if anybody is to sign him, they only want that amount because he's better than bale and bale went for £90m. FSG need to pull the fingers out and put some money into the kitty for the next fee days or I fear we will not get top 4 and therefor lose Suarez in the summer!

Say we decide that Salah is not worth £11m and only bi up to £10m, he then signs for a direct rival for that fee of £11m and then both teams have injuries in the area that Salah plays.
We then go 3 games struggling to score and manage 2 defeats and a draw. In the same time Chelsea manage 2 wins and a draw. then at the end of the season they manage to pip us to 4th place by 4 points, the valuation equation put on Salah not being worth £11m suddenly seems a bit silly.
Missing out on 4th and a Champions League place for the sake of £1m, yet by not making that place you lose £20m (or whatever the minimum figure is these days for qualifying) plus potentially losing one or two of our better players and then making it even harder and more exepnsive to get that better quality of player in the future.

I'm not saying it is as black and white as all that, but you see the logic of where I'm going.

It's all well and good having this so called valuation of a player that you won't go over, but there needs to be someone in the process that can make sure there are more parts to the valuation equation being taken into account.

There also needs to be some flexibility in the valuation.

We could also appear to do with someone in charge of this process to get a player signing wrapped up a bit quicker.

We spent how many weeks over Salah and yet Chelsea get it done in a day or two.

Either we were never going to get him and they used us to get a higher fee from someone else - in which case we need a proven negotiator that can actually recognise when this is going to be the case.

Or we could have got him, but messed them about that they got annoyed and we lost out on the player - in which case we need a proven negotiator that can get a signing wrapped up quickly.

I think a lot of supporters are annoyed at the perceived lack of conviction. We have identified weak areas where we need better players and areas where we are lacking in numbers. this has been the case for a while and yet nothing appears to be happening.

If we don't have any money for signings, I would rather they come out and say that. Rally the troops, create that everyone is against us mentality and use it to our own good.

Just say your granny had balls she would then be your granda.

27 Jan 2014 14:53:40
Please please please LFC don't make a last minute panic signing just in an attempt keep the fans happy. We cannot afford to waste money.

Miralem PjANIC would an excellent signing I think!

Sorry, couldn't resist.

Why should we be panic buying

we ve had six months to lineup transfers

we ve got 2 fit midfielders

RedRichard. That last bit "We cannot afford to waste money" made me laugh out loud. Just take a long hard look at the milions upon millions that have already been wasted by Brenda and King Klown before him.

27 Jan 2014 14:45:53
Hello all
Again linked with a few players this week. They all seem young like Alberto so a bit pointless at the moment.

We need a CM/CDM who can come in straight away and improve the team.

Do you eds know anything? Without rTP

27 Jan 2014 14:41:31
I know the club is building but it's frustrating reading that the club is after future "prospects" or "squad" players! My reason being ALBERTO & LIORI the lads can't get a look in as ed01 said to me on Saturday Rodgers doesn't think ALBERTO is ready! so why buy them now bring them to the club leave them on the bench or reserves and stall their progress yes their for the future but it's now we need the players!
Does anyone agree ed01 your view if possibl?

{Ed001's Note - it takes a while for some people to adjust, that is why you get them over and allow them to settle in as soon as possible.}

27 Jan 2014 14:32:50
FSG, enough of buying potential player.please go and buy proven quality players.united get mata, chelsea get matic salah, arsenal gets ozil, but what we all get is moses, aspas and alberto

Arsenal have near as much cash as the rest of the PL combined, Chelsea sold Mata for a pretty large chunk of change, and United have double our turnover. Comparisons between them and us is a bit unfair, at least in terms of financial muscle.

27 Jan 2014 13:40:12
This is probably a shot in the dark, but am I right in thinking our budget for this window is around 8 million? Reports say that is what we wanted to offer for salah and now niguez too?

This isn't football manager. You don't get an exact budget and try your best to spend it. There may be ball park budgets but these are all flexible depending on our targets and opportunities to sign our targets and prices which are deemed to be good value.

27 Jan 2014 13:12:23
Maybe FSG used the Jan budget on renewing Suarez's contract which tbh is the best signing we could have made even though he will be off this summer if we don't get CL.

The club are between a rock and a hard place.

Not that I'm asking for signings but if the right player came available they should push the boat as if we don't get CL they would cover any overspend by selling our prized asset are reducing the wage bill or would be covered by CL qualification

There is no "Budget". This has been dealt with on many occasions before.

27 Jan 2014 12:17:06
First Time poster just wanted to say from what reports are saying we could be signing Andre Gomes for 15million. What really is making me angry is if we end up buying some unknown kid for 15mill why the couldn't we just sign Salah. To all my fellow brothers and sisters who love Liverpool just want your view on Aly Cissokho in my opinion he's the worst left back I have ever seen. We need 3 players CDM Winger and Left back I would buy

Shaqiri on loan
Diame (cheap and is a brilliant player)
Conterao could be a Loan.

These players would improve us send cissokho and moses Back.
Btw to all the EDS thank your for you hard word and me been a muslim may Allah shower you and your families with beutiful blessings

Why do people insist on saying send loanees back, it's stupid, petty and would cost more than it's worth! Over the past few weeks with Enrique Flanagan and Kelly injured, who else could we play even? Would mean putting a centre back out of position!

Need to sort something out need a holding midfielder this window this kid wasn't even getting in the team

I'd hope we take another look at the guy from Porto out of contract in the summer so could pick him up for 5m but reading utd want him now

You mean Fernando Reges. Would be the player we need and not too expensive either. But we will lose out and over pay on someone not ready for the first team, you know the usual way it works!

I agree with Conbicks on sending loan players back. 100% we should target a LB but only for the summer, we have enough until then (fine ya he's not very good but we've committed to the full season so it's not worth sending him back and paying for more loan fees & wages).

DM is where we need to target.

Oh and Ayaan you just said there that you think Diame is a brilliant player - he's so over-hyped it's embarrassing.

27 Jan 2014 13:04:41
'Liverpool just want your view on Aly Cissokho in my opinion he's the worst left back I have ever seen '.

This translates into,
'Ive supported Liverpool for 5 minutes, and thus have never seen Paul Konchesky play! '
Seriously dude, he's not a world beater by any means but he's far from the worst left back ever.

Cissokho is shocking, no composure, no vision. when he gets the ball he immediately looks to offload it to the nearest player. very frustrating to watch.

There maybe interest but I would be very surprised if we end up paying that much for Gomes or Niguez.

Unbelievable - I reckon about 99% of the people on this site had never heard of Salah before we became interested in him, but because he has been at the front of conversation for weeks its like they've all watched him week in week out rather than seen a you tube clip of a gaol against Chelsea!

Cissokho isn't the worst defender we have had by a mile, piechnik, kvarme and Konchesky are light years away so I think you should bare them in mind. ,

Just remember when Cissokho destroyed the mancs for Porto? He just has to adapt to the English game, at least he doesn't hide and go missing so he gets the benefit of the doubt.

Konchesky easily the worst I've seen bud

27 Jan 2014 11:23:23
Hi Eds. Did my earlier post not make it?

{Ed002's Note - No idea.}

27 Jan 2014 10:52:43
i think we should work on are defens and midfeld I think we should go in for barkley from are rivals and pizceck from dortmund and my opion aswell we should sell suarez and get someone who will be loyal to are club

Yeah let's sell one of the deadliest strikers in the world, and let's waste the clubs time in trying to buy one of our biggest rivals is best players, good job that you are not employed by lfc son otherwise we would be fighting a relegation battle.

27 Jan 2014 10:10:38
To all the slaters. I wanted to buy a house and the owners wanted 1 mill. I tried to low ball them with 750K because I wanted to buy a car as well. They sold it to someone else who didn't need to buy a car and who was prepared to pay the asking price. Somehow feels like Dejavue ( Salah). I have moved on and looking for a different house. Just hope I find one that I need and not buy the next available house and rather wait till I get the one I rather need.
Didnt actually happen just trying in my silly way to put the transfer window in perspective. I would rather wait for the the right player and not just buy to keep fans happy.

27 Jan 2014 10:39:10
I think Dejavu is more likely to go to Newcastle.
C'est la vie.

Haha! Nice one Rigsby!

Plot twist:
The funds to buy the house were garnered illegally. The state repossesses the item and hold a police auction to recover the funds.

27 Jan 2014 09:42:05
Had a hard job beating Bournemouth, it's the cup and they were really up for it. Everything went through Gerrard and we were so pedestrian even my 12 year old daughter asked ' why do we play so slowly, dad?' Because we're kanckered' I answered. BR has to find a way of sorting this situation out. Henderson looks lost when stevie G plays, our midfield look like they're running through treacle, and on the whole we look and feel like stevie G does! Stevie, you are my God and I love everything about you, but mate, there is someting wrong. I don't have the football knowledge to solve it, you will know what to do yourself.
Our defence is wide open and badly exposed. Skertle is a warrior but so shaky recently. Against decent opposition we will get slaughtered and fans like me, will have a stroke every time the opposition attacks!
So what are we doing to address the situation? There are a few players around the £7m-£8m price range, which is our price range nowadays, so please let's see some movement there.
As it is, things are not looking as fan would've liked, we lack depth (everyone knows that, I know) and just when we played without Gerrard and was dynamic Lucas got injured. Let's hope we can cling to top4 for rest of season.

YNWA

This is my first post of sorts, so please go easy with me!
I have to agree with what you have said, Steven Gerrard is the cause of our bad play, he upsets the balance of the team and should be used as an impact substitution. That is my opinion and who to replace him with, I don't know, with any luck BR does!

Gerrard is being waisted playing how BR plays him. Look at lampard, Gerrard is twice the athlete and and better football player but Lampards still looking good. Gerrards not suited to the way he is being waisted. Henderson is a tryer bless him, but to be totally honest he is not good enough. He works hard he get everywhere. Problem is he lacks the ability to do anything to make the difference to win games. His passing is not great, he can't finish and if you looked at the pecentages of missed chances and passes I think it would be awfull. He would not get into any of the other top sides in the country. But he is a tryer, I don't want to slate one of the players but if I had to pick either Gerrard or Henderson I would not be picking Henderson. Your way of lads

I read hard as hand I was going to say lucky boy sounds ideal

Maybe just maybe we weren't tired and saving ourselves for tomorrow's game not really needing to get out of 2nd gear agaisnt Bournemouth no offence to them I'm sure we could of gone there and hammered them 5-6 nil if we wanted.

Ringoffire: Have to disagree with you on Henderson. His stats for passing are second best in the team, to lucas, and he is a lot more direct so that's very impressive. He has been one of our best offensive midfielders and is very versatile. We don't yet have to choose between Henderson and Gerrard, it's called options.

Henderson has probably been the best English player this year bar Rooney, He's had a brilliant season and is player of season without suarez.
We looked so pedestrian because of the huge wind factor, the bobly pitch slows down the passing and doesn't a llow for short sharp passes to open defenses.I don't ever think we were in that much trouble. Suarez, sturridge etc all only looked average, never mind just Gerrard. FA cup ties are always difficult in boggy torn up ground with little windcover, and strong support and drive for the opposition.

Ringoffirre have a day off? Hendo has been immense this year.

Reckon ringoffire has been overdosing on the curry again - clearly been in the trap on match-days rather than watching Henderson!

27 Jan 2014 06:30:11
Not going to sit here and slate ayre and fsg, at the end of the day they saved our club and are trying to run it securely for the future and can't blame all mistakes on them some transfers in the summer have had little to no impact.
Just a little confused over prices really, in the summer they were unwilling to meet steep asking prices above what they deemed acceptable and clearly they are often looking for sell on value, however surely Alberto and sakho do not fit that profile at all. Alberto isn't a teenager and is unlikely to improve enough to ever be worth a considerable amount more than we paid, plus we clearly didn't need him and sakho although a terrific player is never going to fetch any higher than we paid so just very confused over how they come to the decision on what is an acceptable offer, as they are essentially comparing Alberto and salah in terms of price and quality which is ridiculous as one players champions league and international and the other was playing in a b team in Spain last year

Perhaps you are wrong about this policy of FSG?

You like many of my fellow red fans are in a world of your own. FSG/BR will only buy players who go and sit on our bench or go on loan. Salah was so obviously good they couldn't believe what they were seeing so they decided to pretend it's not there!

Well if they aren't looking for sell on value then buying so many youngsters in at te cost of the first team would be pointless, so either they are buying with the hope of sell on higher or accepting we are not going to challenge for the title, as I don't honestly believe br thinks Alberto and aspas are players that will win the title

{Ed002's Note - The plan will be to buy players who improve the squad - if they could subsequently be sold for more that is a bonus.}

27 Jan 2014 02:58:10
well I have always dreamed that the club I supported was financially healthy, had a good manager and players who love and enjoy working/playing for our club. with a good first team and youngsters providing depth and cover. were kinda close there and got good talent emerging from our youth ranks, good first team that will get improved but not necessarily by buying but by giving our young lads a chance. maybe you are forgetting but where would Gerrard be if he wasnt given a chance as a young player? or would we have won the CL without youngsters as pongolle and mellor? be proud of the history and the way of our club and let us give a chance to new Gerrards and Carraghers to emerge, cause without those kind of players would you love and support our beloved club? ask yourself that! take a deep breath and let ynwa play on your comp, close your eyes and tell me what you feel? I feel pride! chill and everything is going to be all right ;)

Oh Zen. I disagree completely. We should gather up as much money as possible. Borrow it. Steal it from the NHS if we have to. Mortgage the clubs future. Who cares! Just buy us a squad of spoilt brats with proven commitment such as Balotelli; tevez; Stephen Ireland; Wayne Rooney etc etc etc. Yeah let's just give them all 100s of thousands of pounds every week and perhaps in return they'll look down their noses at us and breeze past us with those silly big fat earphones stuck on their heads pretending they didn't see a cupla hundred of us. Yeah come on Mister Ayre buy us some persons!

27 Jan 2014 01:58:33
A feeling of frustration is hard to suppress!
It's 1.51 in the morning and having read all the gossip columns of whatever's on the web I am now going to fight the urge to moan and whinge.

There are a few days left of the window and it's only fair to judge our owners/manager/scouts/transfer team only when the window has closed and we can see what we have for the rest of the season.

John Henry is/was here and they are not going to stand by and see a season that has started so promisingly end with disappointment because we failed to recruit what was needed. WHAT WAS NEEDED AND NOT FOLLY.
I personally think buying Mata was a kneejerk reaction by Moyes, ManU have RVP and Rooney to comeback and they will be fine (I'm sad to say) Mata, we will see, very good player but IMO they need DEFENDERS not midfielders. And it's amusing Moyes is quoted as saying 'Mata joining the NEW ManU! New ManU? Anyway, none of our business, the hell with them. getting back to our own trouble, I was saying. let's give them until the end of the window. I hope they don't let us down. I have a feeling they won't.
Here's to beating Arsenal twice in a fortnight!
YNWA

I think it's clear to see that we have learned nothing from the Salah deal going south and ince looks to be going to swansea! Lost out to another big club then! What is going on IAN please bring yourself up to speed with the modern game and learn how to close deals also I think unless FSG back Rodgers he will be looking at his future in the summer it's a real shame I think he has done a brilliant job yes some of the signing don't look fantastic at the moment but look at Henderson was he setting the world alight 12/18 months ago no some players need time but unless we start to spend and spend big we are going to come up short all the time don't want to be negative but we need to face facts unless IAN ARYE and FSG can deliver then please move on so some else can give us what we not only want but so clearly need YNWA

{Ed001's Note - in both deals the player had the choice, Salah never wanted to join us and, if Ince does join Swansea, it will be because he wants to join them rather than us.}

27 Jan 2014 00:28:56
Can someone please tell me why we didn't buy a midfielder in the summer, to replace jonjo? Was it because we have a young/loanee player who will be able to play in the centre next season so we were just hoping to get by until then?
cheers

{Ed001's Note - Alberto replaced Shelvey.}

I thought Alberto replaced him. and BTW, don`t get too caught up w/ jonjo `s career at Swansea. He had ample opportunities to take his career at lfc to the next level BUT could never step up. He and some of us have moved and others should do the same.