Liverpool Banter Archive June 27 2014

27 Jun 2014 22:23:06
Eds, serious question.
How long till you make the app?
You know far more than any other 'ITK' people and you could do so much with an app it's ridiculous!
If I had the money I'd pay for it all haha

{Ed001's Note - I doubt it will be before the end of the year, at the earliest. We have a few other things, competitions, games and some new features for the sites we want to put out first. Developing an app takes time as we have never done anything like it before.}

I know a couple of excellent coders if you need any help, I'm sure they'd do for real cheap too.

27 Jun 2014 23:11:54
what app eds? is it the phone apps for this site?

27 Jun 2014 23:41:24
I have developed a few apps. If you want any help you have my email pal

Even if all you give us are reply notifications on the full site I will be happy, kind of annoying to have to recheck threads manually

27 Jun 2014 22:06:28
Hey Ed001,

With the news/rumour that we're set to sign Divock Origi and loan him out, I just want to know you're opinion of him as a player. I honestly had never heard of him before this World Cup, just wondering if you know anything of him.

If you have the time, your opinion on Lallana as a signing as well as the possibility of Moreno and Shaqiri - what are these players qualities for our side, in your opinion?

Always interested to hear what you say!

Thanks in advance :)

{Ed001's Note - Origi is highly rated for his pace and trickery, I can't say I have seen much of him myself, but I have heard a lot about him. I do wonder about the wisdom of the loan though, I would prefer him to get used to the UK personally and settle in the country. He has pace and skill, but the difficult part about the UK is getting used to a completely different lifestyle, he won't be doing that on loan there.

As for Lallana, I really like him. He glides past opponents and creates chances, is able to play the ball with either foot and can play multiple roles due to his ability. He is more of a creator than a finisher though, so he will need to have players around him to finish off the chances.

Moreno is very quick, but suspect positionally. We do play a defensive midfielder to cover that anyway, and he is lightning so should be able to get back in time. His defending does need a bit of work, he is not really the best tackler I have ever seen, but he is far from the worst. His main qualities are defo going forward, his pace gets him into dangerous positions before the opposition can adjust. From what I have seen, his final ball could do with a bit of work too, but he does seem very technically accomplished, so I would think that is partly down to him running too fast when he puts the ball in. I know that sounds silly but it can be a major problem with extremely quick players, Giggs was one who couldn't cross until he learnt to just slow down a tiny bit to improve his control of the ball. If Moreno can learn that, I think his crossing will show a marked improvement.

As for Shaqiri, everything I have seen just screams of inconsistency. One minute excellent, the next terrible. I am completely unsure what to think of him. He clearly has ability, massive amounts of it, but he can't seem to put together good performances on a regular basis. Perhaps he needs regular football, but I was told by someone who worked with him at Basle that he was inconsistent there too. That he frustrated the hell out of the coaching staff.}

Cheers Ed001, can't thank you enough for that!

I'll have to hope Origi is as good as some people say and doesn't end up doing nothing for us after his loan.

Lallana I like, my only fear is that he will mean Suso leaves, and I don't think Lallana is worth £25m and losing Suso.

Moreno I haven't seen much of but your insight is brilliant, I trust you 100% and would be excited to see him arrive at Anfield!

Shaqiri I have never been excited over. I don't see what he adds over Sterling or Ibe or Sinclair to name what we already have. I hope he proves me wrong and Rodgers adds that consistency you mention to his games. I suppose he would bulken our squad for Champions League also!

27 Jun 2014 21:51:22
Ed01, Can you guess the most quiet place on earth now????????????????????????/

Spurs Page. Absolutely nothing happening.
Arsenal aren't far behind though.

27 Jun 2014 21:38:59
When Totemham sold Bale, did they not deny they were selling whilst spending money in advance, only to then sell him? The idea not to have prices put up when clubs realised they had a large amount of cash to spend. I realise this is a little simple or I have over simplified but could Liverpool be doing the same thing now with a deal already agreed?

Could be very smart if true!

27 Jun 2014 21:37:17
Ed01, Was the situation same last year when Bale was getting sold, You have stated there is still no deal in place for Suarez.

{Ed001's Note - Spurs did hold off on making the deal with Madrid last season too, it nearly didn't happen at all.}

27 Jun 2014 21:45:15
And they kept purchasing the players?. Y it nearly was called off? Price at the last moment?

{Ed001's Note - oh they expected to sell him to Madrid, but the deal hit a few snags at the end, just minor things, payment terms etc.}

27 Jun 2014 21:30:50
Conspiracy theory no 1: Does anyone really think that the last Suarez bite was a deliberate attempt to sour the relations between Liverpool and Suarez and to ensure the move to Barcelona? Was there a real risk the LFC would have refused the sale and a fan backlash from letting him go? Just as there was with Arsenal last summer?

Conspiracy theory no 2: Did Barcelona encourage some kind of 'incident' to happen - so as to ensure a smooth sale and at a reduced value? Suarez's people have been talking with Barcelona for some time.

What's the evidence? Liverpool are now happy to get shut of Suarez. The fans are now happy to get shut of Suarez, Barcelona are still interested in the 'damaged goods'. Coincedently, the bite happened when Uruguay were drawing and were looking to go out of the WC, so this was possibly his last chance of action to force through a move to Barcelona. - Anyone else smell a rat?

27 Jun 2014 21:47:02
No chance, He enjoyed ripping England apart

Your conspiracy theories are ridiculous

No, They were playing against 10 men at the time with lots of time on the clock. If there was a plan to bite it would have happened in injury time with at least 2 goals behind.

27 Jun 2014 22:04:19
I have no clue Y did he even attempted this post. Seems like a detective series.

27 Jun 2014 22:05:15
Conspiracy by Suarez who uses his brain once in a year?

Your conspiracy theories would suggest he didn't have any release clause inserted in his contract after we refused to sell to Arsenal, I would think his agent would have some sort of clause inserted after presuming he had one for £40m last time and not being able to force through a move he seemed to fancy. A clause being a little easier than creating such a crazy incident that occurred.

Of course, you make total sense! He did everything humanly possible to get fit for the World Cup and then was happy to sacrifice it all and his dreams and ambitions in a wild but planned event to make a move to another club where he could happily sit outside the stadium for 4 months!

Is it time for your mid morning nap yet? ;-)

27 Jun 2014 20:43:05
Edd001 can.you help a.dude out mate. Apparently we have sealed origi and lalanna whilst making offers for Sanchez( balague) and shaqiri. surely there are too many attackers? Or one is expected to fall through? Thanks mate

{Ed001's Note - Origi is likely to go out on loan by the sounds of it.}

27 Jun 2014 21:31:34
Dont forget Markovic big Al.

Dezmondo
We are.bidding on a lot of attacking playersby reliable sources. let's see.how it pans out

27 Jun 2014 21:04:55
Possible song for Adam lallana.
La la la la la la la la bumba it's Adam lallana he plays for the reds now.

King Luis

27 Jun 2014 21:38:09
And the gesture by none other than King Luis Suarez. loved it mate.

27 Jun 2014 20:38:32
Dont know what the excitement is over origi, a striker that scored 5 goals in 30 appearances for lille in a poor league and 1 goal in a world cup that most strikers would have tucked away

You can see he has tremendous ability. He's 19 and hasn't been fazed by playing in the WC. If his next season sees him develop as Raheem did he'll be some player.

27 Jun 2014 21:51:46
And he looks like a cross between Danny Welbeck and Wilfried Zaha. What more convincing do we need?

Danny 19 gpals in 6 seasons welbeck

There is always one ain't there.

For lille he plays out wide.

Spot on, Alfie!

27 Jun 2014 20:17:16
anyone got any info on this markovic guy what's he like?

27 Jun 2014 20:29:30
He is a top class player, Plays exactly as Lallana. But more as an ACM.

Young. Prospect. Hmmm.
Just my opinion.

27 Jun 2014 20:35:17
Has potential, runs like Ronaldo with bursts of acceleration. But I think he only had 5 goals last season.

28 Jun 2014 10:33:38
He is nothing like Lallana.

27 Jun 2014 19:46:40
hey ED's

hope you don't mind me asking and I hope this hasn't been answered already but its been reported on most of the news papers that Adam lallana deal is done for £24million will this have any affect on the xherdan shaqiri deal(who I think is the better player) witch is again widely reported that Liverpool have agreed personal terms and are just trying to agree a deal with Munich

thanx guys again sorry if this has already been explained

{Ed030's Note - It has, Look down the page Ed001 has answered it. }

27 Jun 2014 19:50:48
thanx guys

27 Jun 2014 19:29:22
Back after a long time. How've you guys been! Thrilled about Adam not so about Luis. 25 mil is a tad high don't you think. Well, here's to good luck to us this season and hoping that the SAS doesn't turn into an LOL. Cheers

27 Jun 2014 19:25:27
Eds in YOUR opinion, do you think Liverpool will sell suarez, in mine I think its makes most sense, he has been worldclass for the club, but his antics are starting to embarass and shame the club and I think the funds could be used to strengthen and add depth to the entire squad

{Ed030's Note - I think they will, He has tarnished the clubs reputation and hasn't learnt from his mistakes, He's a brilliant footballer and ability wise we will not replace him however if we use the money wisely and buy a top quality attacker such as Sanchez or Markovic while improving the defense then although we will more than likely not score as many goals as we did last season the lack of goals conceded if we make the right defensive signings then we should challenge for the league again as we will have more creativity in Lallana and another creative winger and we should still get goals from Sturridge and the other attacking players. I feel optimism for the upcoming season and expect is to maintain our position in the top 3 while mounting a title challenge and hopefully with the luck of the draw to get through the group stages and maybe even challenge for the competition but i'm certainly not expecting us to challenge in our first season back, Maybe a quater/semi-final place finish. }

Honestly, if we keep Suarez, I think we could challenge for all honors again (BPL and in the CL). At times last year, our offense was capable of scoring on any defense. Unfortunately, I don't see how we could sustain our expensive squad improvements (ie. bringing in Lallana, Shaqiri AND Sanchez plus defensive reinforcements) without selling, but 9 games without him is not insurmountable, IMO.

27 Jun 2014 19:16:41
Getting away from Suarez can anybody remember a time when a player had a great World Cup, was signed by a high profile team and maintained that form? Or even maintained that form for the club if he stayed?

{Ed030's Note - Ozil and Khediera in 2010. }

Phill babb? Joking

27 Jun 2014 19:37:26
Mascherano and Tevez 2006?

El hadj diouf and diao ;)

Diao was a world beater at that world cup ala Viera but when he arrived he couldn't beat an egg.

27 Jun 2014 23:01:43
Duff 2002.

27 Jun 2014 19:02:16
Hi Eds
Never thought I'd say this but I'm actually looking forward to that moment ssn announce that Liverpool have accepted a bid for Luis Suarez, the same news I was dreading this time last year. As much as I love watching him as a footballer, none of us will ever argue he is one of the best players to grace the red shirt as a footballer, but his personic antics on the pitch & in the press have left a very nasty mark on our great club. The negative press is damaging to our reputation, Suarez himself has already lost his 888 sponsorship & Adidas are looking to follow suite as are other of his endorsements. After the hard work going on behind the scenes to stabilise the club financially after the previous owners we can't afford to stand by him again. It was rumoured last time Standard Charted were unhappy after his antics, which is not surprising considering their name is plastered on the shirt he wears & is on the front & back pages of every newspaper & on every sport/news TV channel world wide, this again is damaging theirs & our reputation, that's just naming one, we now thanks to much hard work behind the scenes have many lucrative sponsors & partners who will not want to be associated with this bad press. I hope the rumours of Sanchez & cash north of £50 million are true, I think he's a fine player, gets goals & assists, tracks back, helps the team & fits the way Rodgers likes to play, he seems a Liverpool type of player, added to Lambett, Cann & Lallana, that would already be good business this summer. Now I don't understand the financials of transfers but with our budget we have already, the Suarez money & any other sales we could invest nicely & have a bright future & be in the headlines for all the right reasons.
No player is bigger than the club so Mr Saurez thanks for your goals & magical moments but it's time to board the plane to Spain, but I'd avoid Ryan Air because you'll pay a fortune for all that excess baggage you take with you.

27 Jun 2014 19:13:27
I know right? It's weird and something I thought I'd never look forward to but this should be the end of the road for Liverpool and Suarez.

Liverpool was here before Luis Suarez and will continue to be here long after Luis Suarez has gone.

27 Jun 2014 18:47:58
I'm a bit concerned with all these attacking players we seem to be linked with when it's clearly the defence that needs strengthened I don't think we've got anyone that's all that great at the back

If Suarez is leaving then we need to replace the goals he scores for us. Attacking players therefore will be necessary.

27 Jun 2014 19:47:04
We were short on players up front anyway especially seeing as we will be looking to compete on all fronts! We needed 1/2 more anyway, as well as replacing aspas and most probably Suarez, which suggest 4 attacking players.

27 Jun 2014 18:37:42
The times right to let luis go this time, providing the price is right. £60 mil and Sanchez, use the money to buy James Rodriguez and a quality centre back

27 Jun 2014 19:20:07
The problem is Rodriguez doesn't want to come to England.

27 Jun 2014 22:50:27
Couldn't agree more with op. Personally think there's no way we can replace the quality of suarez but buying loads of attacking midfielders reminds me of spurs and we know how that worked out. Rodriguez and Sanchez are top class and would be the best option for me if suarez were to leave. Getting them would be difficult though I imagine.

27 Jun 2014 18:20:21
i don't want to be called stupid or person, but it seems suarez is 90% gone. if we get sanchez that won't affect us at all. sanchez is a beast of a player, hardworking, disciplined, has some of the magic. with the right guidance could be near suarez quality in couple of seasons

27 Jun 2014 18:43:59
Sanchez is a good player but he'll never be as good as Suarez

Peanut, when we bought Suarez and Barcelona bought Sanchez who was expected to become the better player?
I'm by no means saying Sanchez is in the same bracket as Suarez but Luis was in a similar position to Sanchez is now when we bought him, albeit Sanchez would be coming from a top club in a top league whilst Luis was plying his trade in the Eredvisie where a player can break records for scoring and then struggle to break into middle of the road BPL clubs' starting XIs

Individuals font win things. TEAMS do. We will be fine without Suarez. Sturridge will be the main man and homie a notch and Sterling can be anything he wants. Lambert already an improvement on Aspas. And that's before we sign any more replacements.

27 Jun 2014 20:25:31
Anfield

Everything is fine. But you would curse in those matches when all our high Profiler's would fail to score one goal which only Suarez would do it.
Individual RVP got UTD the title

H

No he didn't. He scored the goals but he didn't win it on his own. And clearly Costa didn't win La Liga on his own. Simeone beat Barca & Real and their wealth and power by forging an unbelievable team spirit and clever tactics. What have we won with Suarez if he's this super human player who can do it all himself? The Capital One Cup?

27 Jun 2014 22:27:03
Sorry Anfieldboy but Homefan is absolutey correct. Utd won the title in 2012/2013 for one reason. RVP. Utd had an average season but had a player who scored almost every match gaining them
points without playing well.

27 Jun 2014 18:06:53
@ Harry

Well done on proving that Lallana was 100% nailed on. At least I am willing to admit that you were right.

Here is hoping that Lallana is a massive success!

27 Jun 2014 18:18:13
Count the next one.
Shaquiri and Moreno. we are landing both.

Harry just repeats what he reads on the web. How can u congratulate him for taking a guess? Lmfao

Yes but I argued with Harry a while ago that FSG would not sanction the Lallana deal and that has left me in a bit of a pickle.

I felt it was appropriate to 'congratulate' Harry for proving me wrong.

I have kept faith with the Moreno signing and believe he will join. Would be very excited if we do get Shaqiri too.

If we can land Sanchez at the expensive of Suarez then I will be singing 'Let it be'.

Lambert, Can, Lallana, Moreno, Shaqiri, Sanchez oh and maybe Lovren? That would be some transfer window!

Lambert can Sanchez Moreno lovren and origi! He can play through the middle too when sturridge doesn't play or comes off! I know lambert ticks that box, but 1 goal up with 5 to play I'd rather counter attack with pace!

27 Jun 2014 20:36:11
Max

Its either shaquiri or Markovic. with in 8 hours

27 Jun 2014 18:02:02
Hi Ed Thanks for a great website your doing a good job .

I just have one question ED what do you think of Guillam Balague as a good source of information?

Thanks and keep up the good work

{Ed002's Note - Balague will give honest information and opinion if asked - but stuff changes so don't blame him if something doesn't happen. Has he said something in particular?

He has said that Barcelona are still keen to sign suarez and may look to involve players such as Sanchez and Pedro, he did not confirm wether they would be interested in a move to Liverpool though.

27 Jun 2014 17:56:21
Eds do you see suarez leaving Liverpool
Thanks

{Ed002's Note - I think there is a very good chance.}

27 Jun 2014 17:36:36
Hey ed 001, something I've been wondering for a while is, what is about Gary Medel that makes you rate him so highly? I've not really seen enough of him to comment on his ability so I'm just interested to hear your thoughts on him and whether you think he would fit in well at Liverpool?
Cheers.

{Ed001's Note - positional sense, which is among the best I have ever seen, work rate, which is phenomenal, he has good vision, a good range of passing, he loves a tackle. Yes, he does have a lack of height, he is not lightning fast, he is not going to fly past players like they are not there and bang the ball in the back of the net. What he will do is provide protection for the defenders (or even play in the backline) for the 90min. If you want to see what I mean, watch his performance against Man City early last season. He dominated the game, controlled the midfield and was brilliant against a City side that should have rolled over Cardiff.}

27 Jun 2014 17:52:03
HX red

You have your hampers send right away. You just made Ed01 smileeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Haha cheers Harry, I feel honoured to have been welcomed into the elite group of hamper receiver's ;)

27 Jun 2014 13:53:33
Ed2, I have a couple of questions if you can find some time.

Firstly, there's a lot of talk about Sanchez, Pedro and Tello but have you any info on whether any of them would be interested in a move to LFC?

Secondly, if the club approach Barca or leak that they are willing to sell Suarez does that usually diminish LFC's negotiating power in the footballing world? Usually in business, in a similar situation, the negotiating power would then shift to the buyer rather than the seller. I hope that makes sense.

Many thanks as always and thanks to you all for your hard work. It's much appreciated.

{Ed002's Note - Sanchez is certainly open to the idea of England as he nearly moved to London a couple of years back. LFC don't need to approach Barcelona as Suarez's agents have been speaking with them for months. If LFC did approach other clubs there would likely be a drop in his value.}

Cheers Ed

27 Jun 2014 17:16:19
All this sanchez rumour is getting on my head. Seem like a possibility now. Just wondering if sanchez willing to make the swap to Liverpool?

27 Jun 2014 16:43:28
I've always had the belief that Coutinho will progress into a becoming Liverpool great. With the apparent arrival of Lallana, Do you see this stunting Coutinho's growth? Or am I just being a negative nancy.

We are in 4 competitions next season so we will need a much bigger squad. Apart form Coutinho, we don't have a CAM at the club, hence Lallana signing. For all his brilliance, Coutinho is still very inconsistent and only 21. We cannot rely on only one creative midfielder for the entire season. Lallana is a very good addition to the squad, albeit a slightly expensive one.

It's a squad game bro ;) Coutinho will get his chances.

Gotta admit, I love the phrase negative nancy, lol! I was thinking the same, but we'll hopefully have around 15-20 extra games this season if we compete on all four fronts, and given that Adam is 4-5 years older than Pip, I can't see a problem them competing. Both Pip and Raheem have struggled in the last season or two as they are so young still and developing so having a very good alternative is essential. My slightly bigger concern is over Moreno potentially hampering development opportunities for Brad Smith. I would to be averse to Bertrand for that reason, or even Ashley Cole, to allow Smith to develop as an understudy to a player at least 6 years their senior.

That's a good question, in my personal opinion I don't particularly think it will help Coutinho too much but to be honest I believe it's to do with strength in depth for the extra champions league games next season and both will still get plenty of games. The competition will certainly be fierce though in attacking positions which will hopefully mean players make sure they take their chances when they come to them. Coutinho is also only 21, so I believe it won't set him back too much and may encourage him that bit further. My only concern is that some players may not be happy about squad rotation and may lead to them moving on but hopefully that isn't the case.

27 Jun 2014 16:23:52
With all of these attacking players being brought in does anybody see us winning games 7-6 or similar. We need to sort out the defence, mignolet needs to get an understanding with the defenders to give us a chance. Be brilliant going forward but nail biting towards the end of a game.

27 Jun 2014 15:58:37
Wow Lallana in bang up to Melwood sharp as you like, no messing from us this time over players we actually can get in.

Bit of a shame that Moreno couldn't have come in and we could have at least on paper put the left back position to bed.

I'm really praying Martin Kelly gets a bit of luck this season because I really think when the lad came in he had real potential to be a starter for a long long time with us. I would like to see him personally at center half.

Young Ibe I hope gets the odd run out as well when the time is right. I do think he will be a quality addition to the first team given time.

You would have to say looking at the business we are doing there is only one that may drag out and that's the name on everyones lips a the minute. I think with Barcelona and Madrid they will keep the price down right until the last day of the window. It wouldn't surprise me if our number 7 actually started kicking off on us again publicly. I hope the nonsense can be avoided and we can get a deal done that is right for us. Its a big ask though.

I'd like Lovren in myself quality player. Shame Agger is going but for whatever reason he isn't the number 1 anymore.

As for Sanchez well if we can get him that would be a real coup. Not least to stop other sides getting him in their squad (Arsenal for example who I think are maybe a player like this away from a league title). He would add real quality and guile to the forwards. Without the nonsense of course.

Not sure what else we can do in the window if we get these in? I would be pretty bloody pleased if we managed all this before the window shut.

Laters potaters

27 Jun 2014 15:23:59
After hearing Rumours of Shaqiri, the lallana ones just disappoint me now. He's not really what we need

For me, a midfield trio of Henderson, Gerrard, and Lallana seems pretty amazing. Or, at the very least, Lallana and Henderson would be a complete pain to play against.

27 Jun 2014 15:41:16
Guys not even signed for us yet. I think you have wc fever. He's been one of the best players in the EPL over the last season. Give him a chance, he's a work horse and has great ability.

Your just saying that because he scored a hatrick a couple days ago.
Rodgers is a big fan of the diamond formation and lallana fits that perfectly.
Shaqiri is a winger who can't play CM.

If we're planning on keeping Suarez then I can see shaqiri coming in as well as lallana.

27 Jun 2014 16:44:10
I have never had a doubt on Lallana's quality. All I am worried the money which we are paying.

27 Jun 2014 17:01:40
Nonsense. Shaquiri has talent no doubt, but has also had his share of injury problems, and one good game for the Swiss at World Cup doesn't put him leagues ahead of Lallana. Personally, I think we should trust BR and his judgement. Under BR, even Suarez the cannibal kept his appetites to himself for an entire season!

27 Jun 2014 17:13:53
Coop

Everything perfect, But I don't trust BR completely.
He gave us Aspas and Alberto with Nuri Sahin in Bonus

I've seen a lot of him since he blew me away with his performances for FC Basel and I was gutted that he signed for Munich so don't give me the 'One good game b*******' ;)

My opinion is based on cost, age and what he offers(more of what we actually need).

Just my opinion girls

27 Jun 2014 18:23:00
Fair point. I totally agree that 25 million is too much, but comparing to the average person's wealth, even 1 million is ridiculous. I think Lallana has a lot of upside, and clearly BR feels he can take his game to another level. I agree that BR has made mistakes, as all managers do, but also feel that Lallana less risk than, for example, Shaquiri. I am trying to be positive going into this season. A lot of people see a figure like 25 million and say "we could have bought X or y" but I think it is a lot more complicated in real life.

I think we can agree that Lallana is good player, and let's hope he is great :)

Cheers

Coop

27 Jun 2014 18:27:48
Perthred, I probably made it sound like Shaquiri isn't a good player, but that was not my intention. I should have said let's be happy we got a star midfielder. I wouldn't be shocked if we still made a bid for Shaquiri to be honest. The trend these days seems to be to overload the midfield and if Suarez truly leaves, I doubt we will look to have two strikers in starting 11.

Cheers,

Coop

27 Jun 2014 15:12:44
I have to say I will be gutted if we donot replace Suarez with Sanchez. Lalanna was.always being sought without suarez leaving and is a playmaker not a player.expected to bang in 30plus goals likewise if shaqiri comes in.too. We already needed these players for CL etc. If Suarez.goes surely he has to replaced by anothrr top drawer player. Look at Tottenham, bought aload of players and were abysmal last season. Sanchez is available and what we.need, suits our style perfectly. If he ends up at united, I might just die a alittle inside

27 Jun 2014 15:22:19
He should come in, There is no better player than Sanchez. But seems in puzzle.
Juventus If they loose Pogba ( Preferably Cheslea or PSG) could easily land Sanchez.

Totally with u on the Sanchez issue Big Al. Neither Lallana or Shaqiri would soften the blow of losing Suarez, but Sanchez is probably the only realistic option who would. He is already a world class player who has shown for Chile how brilliant he can be if the team is built around him. Also very versatile and would help to attract other world class talent to the club.

Would Sanchez replace Suarez as a striker though?
I always thought he played wide, and although he will chip in with goals, he won't score 30+ in a season.

If Suarez leaves then all we have as strikers are Sturridge, Lambert & Borini.

Sturridge has shown he is suseptible to injuries, so he can't play two games a week all season next year with the Champions League.

Lambert is a good player, but he isn't world class, and he is a different option to our normal set up.

Borini again is decent but not world class and will not gurantee 20+ goals never mind 30.

I think we need to sign a striker as a priority if Suzrez leaves, and then Sanchez would be a bonus.

Harry, I fully agree with u. We need to wrap up the Sanchez deal before Juve sell Pogba as they would have the money to buy him. Offer Sanchez 170k-180k a week if needed to bring him to Anfield. It would give the whole club a huge boost after the Suarez bite incident. Also just read that Ben Smith of BBC and James Pearce of Liverpool Echo have both confirmed our interest in Sanchez.
If its between Sanchez and Shaqiri, there is only one winner.

Personally I think we play a bit better with more of a central striker and two wider forwards then two strikers up top, so for me I look at Sanchez playing wider normally (although I can imagine he's quite capable of playing more central as well) as nearly ideal moving back to more of the 4-3-3ish sort of formation.

We can't replace Suarez but Shaqiri is brilliant down the wing! He just scored a hat trick in the world cup. which is more than any england striker managed for us, so not sure he wouldn't soften the blow and with Lallana who WILL at the very least deliver great crosses and pass when its the better choice to do so and thus will create goals for whoever we have up front, not including how many he will score.

For me those two alone are a great start and Yes Sanchez would be an incredible player for us I am sure but as a striker, not so sure

27 Jun 2014 16:24:17
Before Suarez scored 30 last season, nobody had scored even 20 from LFC (bar Torres and Suarez) for like the last 10 years.

If Sanchez comes in, he will play as a versatile forward.

27 Jun 2014 16:47:02
I am blushing, Finally I am in line with Real AG.

27 Jun 2014 14:48:48
Lambert, Emre Can, now Llalana. let's hope we can balance the books by selling someONE

27 Jun 2014 14:39:16
Orite, with Lallana all but confirmed, would you expect just a lb and a new striker (if Suarez leaves) or do you believed there is a chance of Shaqiri even if we have lallana? Thanks for all your help!

I think the club want Sanchez without selling Suarez, not sure how they can pull that off, but I think shaqiri will be brought in as well as lallana if we can't do a deal for Sanchez.

27 Jun 2014 14:34:03
Lovren, Lambert, Shaw, Rodrogues, Lallana

Eds are Southampton going to have a team next year.

As delighted as I am with Lambert and possibly Lallana its abit sad to see a club who have had such a good youth prospects come through constantly loose these players. Really hope they can invest wisely and still be a good team next season and luckily they still have some very good young players emerging, Clyne, Chambers, Stephens, Turgot, Gallagher, Sinclair to name a few.

{Ed001's Note - they were in a bit of debt, for now and the future, that Cortese had put on the club, as he was still running it to Markus Liebherr's instructions. Unfortunately, after his death, the family are not willing to spend so much money supporting the club. They want to make it financially viable, to do so they have some long term payments to clear up and they are looking at expanding the stadium or even a new one altogether. For that to happen they need to be stronger financially to be able to get the credit required. I am sure they will buy some replacements in, with Targett being a straight replacement for Shaw who only missed out on being the one given the chance due to an injury. He was actually more highly rated throughout the youth system.}

27 Jun 2014 14:33:35
Good signing! Let's not dwell on the fee, very pleased to get Lallana. One of the top performers last season, made the team of the year and we've got him.

Scoring 9 goals and making 6 assists. Fits are system perfectly. Very happy!

27 Jun 2014 14:55:54
He wil have to double that next season regardless of any fees. We will have to cover up atleast 25 goals a seaosn.

27 Jun 2014 16:25:41
Harry, that makes no sense.

27 Jun 2014 17:06:35
Tj Red

It will make if we aren't in top 4 next season.

27 jun 2014 18:02:43
the same nonsense before last season was said. tottenham are so good we have no chance. believe in the team. this is liverpool fc. not suarez fc

27 Jun 2014 14:24:02
I smell a rat!

Can, Lambert, Llalana, Shaqiri, Snachez, Oribi. Possible Lovren

Could it be that we have already sorted the Suarez to Barca deal and buying before prices inflate.

Today Barca's coach coming out in support, almost justifying their interest in him.

Suarez is gone, by the time it's announced we have all the money spent and replaced him.

Done

27 Jun 2014 14:36:00
You smell a rat?

You should get that sorted mate they spread all sorts of diseases, Seriously sorry to hear you're unfortunate news.

I think you could be right and if he goes good luck to him, despite the madness that goes with him he still was a star for us and we will have made on the deal, if we get sanchez lallana and maybe one other its a great deal, hope he does well for barca and can stay out of trouble. we as a club move onwards and upwards. its going to be a great season with them two lambert and can added to our already gifted squad. now for a left back and a bit of wheeling and dealing with our centerbacks one in one out i'd say .

Touch wood, seriously impressed with our clubs turn around in transfer form, getting them done early in season. If we get the above in, under Brendon we will lead us to serious contention.

Re. Suarez, I have supported him and have a soft spot for flawed individuals, but think the amount of attention on one individual is too high a risk. Hope Barca can contain him.

27 Jun 2014 13:59:37
Hi eds,

Just wondered if you can shed some light on the transfer process. Do the club's agree a fee first then personal terms or is the other way round? Or is it different every time?

Thanks

{Ed030's Note - There are numerous obstacles to overcome when a transfer is happening, I suppose agreeing a fee is just the start. }

27 Jun 2014 14:14:01
Ayre always needed a good start. lols

27 Jun 2014 13:39:13
Reports that we've agreed a deal for Lallana. Any truth eds?

{Ed030's Note - I believe so. }

Reports suggest the player is on his way to Melwood for medical today.

27 Jun 2014 14:17:03
ITV confirms it. 25 mill the fee believed to.
Shaquiri is also nailed on to join.

27 Jun 2014 13:13:36
Utd really mean buisness this summer hope we get r targets as well.

27 Jun 2014 13:28:20
Luke Shaw for 30 mill isn't a business. ITS A RISK THAT MUST PAY OFF. He will have to be the Next Bale or else it won't help the club.

I disagree HF, though please don't take offence. It's a lot of money but for the last few years prices have gone mad! He is a top player already at 18 years old and played really well for England against Costa Rica so it's a great piece of business for me as he'll just get better and is a buy for the next 10 years for them. Sad we don't have the money to get him.

Ps have enjoyed reading your posts so keep them up

Spurs meant business when they splashed the cash last summer transfer window mate - look how that ended up for them. Not saying it'll turn out that way with United, they're a very well run club with very high ambitions, but all purchases come with risks. Herrera looks very good, but will he adapt well? Shaw is also very, very young - they may have just found their new LB for the next decade, or it may be the case that he doesn't reach that potential. Is it worth paying £30m for that risk? I do believe United will be challenging for top 4 again next season, but I still don't think they'll be the menace they were under Fergie, and I think it's going to take a few years before they're right back up there again.

JFT 96

JP

27 Jun 2014 13:53:25
SR

No question on his qualities, He is right up there. But then therez a limit you pay for a LB. I personaly don't think any Fullback is worth 30 mill.

So nice of you mate

Tommy is right. Risk or not the players they brought in will make them a much better team and we have to react else we will loose the top 4 again .

Luke Shaw has already proved himself to be one of the best LBs in the Premier League, and he is only 18. not even close to being fully developed. It would be a big fee is they only had £60 million to spend, but it looks like United will probably spend £120 million+, so doesn't tap out their funds.

27 Jun 2014 14:15:47
To Roy

Personally I think they (Manchester united) have to do the catching up not Liverpool. Two players and a new manager will not guarantee them top4, in all honesty as it stands top 4 is ours to lose.

I think prices have just gone daft lately HF. £30M is crazy but it just seems the norm nowadays. I mean £50+ for David Luiz. Ha ha

Spurs had an almost identical record last year without Bale to the year prior with Bale and that with some massive managerial turmoil and some poor acquisitions. I really don't see that as a good example at all.

I'm not gunna be worried about utd until they fix the mid and defence positions you can sign top quality players but there problem was the back line and there SLOW midfield.
If they sign a top CB a top DM and if reports are to be believed robben!
Ill be very scared of them next year.

RDL, I'd say it's a relevant example considering they invested heavily and still didn't really see the players kick on in the team and take them further in the table. Granted, like you said, a lot of managerial turmoil, however my point was that investing heavy money on players who may come good (i.e. Lamela, Soldado) is a risk, but that sweeps across the board. United have now spent about £120m in a year, I personally don't see them sitting pretty at the top of the table next season, in fact I see them fighting for top 4. exactly like Tottenham have been doing.

JFT 96

JP

I agree with you to an extent.

Spurs bought badly, particularly in spending the better part of 60M on Soldado and Lamela. Add that to their managerial issues and frankly I think they did well to end up only 3 points off of their previous finish with Bale. My point being- they bought perhaps unwisely and had managerial issues and sold their 'star player' yet still wound up about the same results wise (-3 points, +1 league position, similar results in the cups and Europa, etc.).

Imagine instead they had perhaps bought more wisely and not had managerial problems and it's hard not to see how they could have perhaps been pushing higher in the table without Bale, thus why I think it's not entirely a great case study in what happens after selling a player for a lot of money.

27 Jun 2014 12:44:15
Hi Ed's&all Red's.Now away from the madness that is Luis Suarez.Now for a bit of fun choose one of these player's and explain why.
Djimi Traore or Harry Kewell(You HAVE to choose one)
Cheer's all.
BarryinLouth

{Ed001's Note - Traore, at least he bothered to try. Kewell was a lazy, injury-feigning prick with us. Horrible, ignorant prick at that. Traore was a nice enough lad, just tried too hard to be a great player, when he was barely a good player.}

Took the misses to a match when Kewell was playing she turned round to me and said why is he (kewell) standing on the half way line with his hands on his hips while the ball is way over there.

{Ed001's Note - that was probably the most effort he made, lifting his hands all the way up to his waist. Actually, I am surprised he did that, the work involved in lifting them all that way could have put his shoulder out!}

27 Jun 2014 13:11:36
Well I always said we wouldn't have won the cl without traore for getting us put out of fa cup letting us concentrate on cl more also for the clearence of the line in the final.as for kewell we all know what he contibuted to that final.Traore for me.

Well what about.
Bjorn Tore Kvarme or Torben Piechnik.
I promise not to dig any more up Ed
BarryinLouth

{Ed001's Note - I loved Kvarme, until I saw him actually play. In training he was a proper beast, really flew in and gave it 110%. Unfortunately he looked great because the rest were only giving 50%. Once he got to an actual game with other players giving it their all, he was found out. Shame, because he was a real trier and deserved to have the talent to go with it.}

Thank's for the reply's Ed your a gent.
BarryinLouth

{Ed001's Note - sign of the times at Liverpool then that the rest of the team were shocked that he wore shinpads in training and actually tried! Oh and you are very welcome mate.}

Kvarme made Cadamarteri look world class. end of.

27 Jun 2014 12:28:07
ive heard that suarez is threatening to leave the game for good? That would be a top story if that happens. Bad thing is that Liverpool would be done out of 50mil plus!

ComicbookFan

mate, don't take it the wrong way, but your comments about Suarez beggars belief! His goals had an impact? He was the impact! It's going to be a very difficult season without him. His presence put defences under duress which allowed Sturridge and other to capitalize. Without him. top4 would be an achievement!

27 Jun 2014 17:44:00
IranRed,

No offence taken and I understand your negativity but we won games without Suarez and we will again(or don't your remember the start of last season). Suarez is a world class player but its a team game and you show a massive disservice to the Liverpool squad by suggesting we can't compete without him, maybe you should change your name to IranSuarez in London because it seems to me with you it's Suarez or nothing!!

27 Jun 2014 12:15:47
If Luis was to leave, I think we could do worse than bringing in Lacazette. I personally think they're pretty similar in their ball control, ghosting from defenders and Lacazette definitely has that hunger and fire to win (minus the Pacman impressions), plus he can operate on the wings or as a striker. Played in 46 games last season, was directly involved in 30 goals. Not a bad return for a 23 year old.

JFT 96

JP

27 Jun 2014 12:20:06
Lacazzate alone won't do it for me, As it would a stupid move.
Look at a 5 year picture, We certainly don't wanna sell anyone next year. Need Sanchez at any cost

27 Jun 2014 12:32:45
While Lacazette is very good player, I feel if he were to sign, people will be comparing him to Suarez (which will be same for any player LFC sign to replace Suarez) and I am not so sure the young man is at the level people expect him to be.

Of course, we also need to take into consideration that he will be very expensive, specially for English teams.

Lacazette is more like Sturridge I think. Still though, if we sell Suarez, Borini and Aspas we will need 3 players to replace them. Sanchez, Lacazette and Lambert wouldn't be bad!

Harry - Sanchez would be the top one for me above all others, I'm thinking more if Suarez does leave and the possibility of another striker leaving also (Borini to Sunderland/Southampton?) would mean we'd need another in.

AG, in all honesty I have literally no idea what sorta fee he would command. But you're right, if he was brought in as a direct replacement that would be too much burden on a young player. My thinking was more along the lines of he would be a versatile player that I'd think would complement Sturridge quite nicely.

EMS - I agree, that would be as solid a trio replacement as I could think of that are within our means. Sturridge, Lacazette and Sanchez as an interchangeable trio with Sterling thrown into the mix would adhere to the principle of drifting across all the front positions we've seen installed since BR arrived.

JFT 96

JP

27 Jun 2014 07:55:20
Suarez must be played out very carefully as Liverpool is a business, the club must not act daft or say silly things I'm sure they upset as much if not more then us and his team mates we should try and get 100% value out of him one way or other hopefully this is the end for him and we get 70/80 million which would be great right now! Thanks for your goals but would prefer to have my Liverpool out the papers for all the wrong reasons! One good thing to come out of this poor Ed002 must be close to a break down this last 2 days!( Only joking) but bet you not far off Ed002 hope this not the case

27 Jun 2014 12:17:44
I agree with you, With all the nuisence and the Ban imposed on him, 2 of the biggest clubs are still interested in him makes him a good piece of business.
I wouldn't care what is he sniffing in Brazil, The world knows what he brings on the pitch, If he is tamed properly.
No compromise on his price.

I agree LFC linc and I am 100%confident the Club hierarchy will do what's best for LFC. Its a 'rock and hard place' situation. We know He wanted to go before all of this as his reps were scouting the Spanish elite. Now its a fine balancing act between maintaining club sponsorship, disciplining Him, whilst ensuring the max value is maintained of the player. He has to go - no question. I am sure LFC would do business with Barca if Sanchez was open to coming to us. This seems only clear option. If not then we would need to keep him for another year to increase his value again. Not a pleasant or easy situation for BR and I feel sorry for Him, the team mates and of course our fans and great club. As Ed001 has said - I agree he is selfish and in it for himself. Was this situation orchestrated by Him to manoeuvre a move? Who knows - but you can't disregard the thought. Can't believe it is Pre Season and our club is being dragged through the dirt on what should be holiday time.

Heads up Red's!

27 Jun 2014 07:54:18
just asking about a fellow countryman. Is anyone from Europe interested in Omar Gonzalez of the USA.

Also, Ed002, you happy about the us result?

{Ed002's Note - I don't know of interest in Omar Gonzalez. The US result is good.}

27 Jun 2014 06:28:10
Ed002, I know that the club wants to move Suarez on and he wants to leave himself, but is the expectancy that the transfer fee will be reduced so much that the club will want to keep a hold of him? Thank you.

{Ed002's Note - The club will want him gone - I have no idea what the transfer fee will be.}

27 Jun 2014 10:51:58
When will people understand its not FIFA we should be blaming for this ban, its that person Suarez. I feel he gets off the hook from the fans due to his exceptional ability, when will people see the bigger picture, he's staining our club and is stamping on the credibility that Liverpool have been built up over the last 100 odd years. I'm sure if it was any other player, the fans would be calling for his head! He's let himself, Liverpool Football Club, Brendan Rodgers, his family and now his country down. Enough is enough in my opinion, let the obscure little weasel cause damage at another club, not ours!

27 Jun 2014 10:48:05
Been reading some articles today eds, one on the independant and one on goal both mention a possible legal challenge from Liverpool over the Suarez ban, have you heard anything or is it rubbish?

Thanks eds

{Ed001's Note - the club are considering all the options. There is nothing else to say until they make a decision, the moment they do a statement will be released. So I doubt we will be able to find out anything in advance of that mate, sorry.}

27 Jun 2014 10:29:54
Eds, since Suarez is banned from all footballing activities, does that include Xbox Fifa? He should at least be allowed to practice with his teammates in this way, unless the unthinkable happens and he is not incorporated in Fifa 2015 version.

Coop

{Ed001's Note - so long as he doesn't play online, he is ok.}

27 Jun 2014 10:58:25
lols.top post.

27 Jun 2014 12:01:28
Coop whenever he tries to go on line a message tells him to contact an administrator.

27 Jun 2014 08:12:34
{Ed001's Note - he was really a little before my time, I was still a kid really when he was at his pomp, but even in the tail end of his career he was outstanding on the pitch.

He was my time and I have followed him since Celtic. ((even us Rangers fans were envious of him) Born and grew up in same area as the man and he can be summed up in one word. MAGIC.
Could go on all day about the MAN and the PLAYER and we all know his feelings for Liverpool so the. So I am honoured to be the same generation.

{Ed001's Note - you are a lucky man, he was incredible.}

27 Jun 2014 10:07:57
Ed01. I never watched him. Grown up in the Fowler and Gerrard Era. I am not from Liverpool and my reason to support any club outside my home are limited ( It has to be on a Player Basis)
I followed Folwer to leeds and they became my second fav team. Allen road. David o leary, Kewel, Viduka.
People says, Suarez was the closest to Daglish on pitch.
Many of my frndz still supports Suarez, I cannot blame them because the only one they had to outmuscle the Hazzard's the Aguero's and the Rooney's was Suarez.

{Ed001's Note - sorry but that says it all, you support players not the club.}

Put your foot right in it there Harry.

27 Jun 2014 10:26:31
Ed01, I support the club, But then Everyone has a reason, How would someone in Australia would want to support a UK club?
Suerly some reason Ed01?
I love Fowler Ed. I loved him to my core, He was the best striker I saw in my eyes.
I don't think He did this on purpose, I seriously don't think so, he needs some medical help, He really needs.
ED01. Love you for the most Genrous Man I have known in a long long time.

{Ed001's Note - I loved Fowler, he was incredible, but Liverpool is the club I support and I can differentiate between the two. I have loved lots of players, but they move on and so do I. I have a lot of friends in Australia who support Liverpool just because I have infected them with the bug. There is a guy who lives on the same floor as me in this building in Dubai who went to university in Liverpool and so got the bug while in the city. Others will get it from friends or family, or just because they like the way we play. I just don't get this sad celeb worship thing, whether it be footballers, singers or movie stars. I can like a song, doesn't mean I have to like the person singing it.

So the question I have for you is, do you support Liverpool FC or do you support Suarez?}

I understand it to an extent, I used to VERY VERY halfheartedly support Real as a 2nd team because I absolutely loved Raul, Zidane, Ronaldo and Roberto Carlos (actually I just loved that team tbh). had Raul and Ronaldos national shirts as well. but players leave and as such I really don't like Real anymore

only team I can ever say I have a liking to other than Liverpool is City and that's down to me staying with friends in Manchester (before the money mind you) and going to a few games - which is the only way I accept people 'choosing' a club btw. I was born to a Liverpool supporter, and such became one, didn't get a choice, the way it should be

27 Jun 2014 11:03:07
I Support Liverpool FC than anything
But like most, I wanna see my club prosper, Which I am not. Suarez is just a name for me like Gerrard, Tomorrow it will be another name. But these names does matters.
I still love Owen, But I never supported him at UTD. Liverpool is the club of my life, But I have hardly seen the glory days some here have been.

Hi Ed001. To a certain extent, I would agree with Harry that at least initially, maybe it is a player or several players who draw a football follower to become a fan of a team. It seems to be the case with me. In the mid 70's I was living in civil war torn Lebanon and I had no chance of ever stepping foot into Anfield (still have not been able to do it sadly). I watched some games on the TV and just read as much as I could. Kevin Keegan and Ian Rush fascinated me. And I must admit that I loved supporting a team that was a "winner" at the time. The more I read about the traditions, the history and the stories of Shankly & Paisley and others, the more I got hooked. The highlight of 1977, for me, was watching Keegan & team beat Berti Vogt's Borussia Moenchengladbach in the European Cup final. I was heartbroken when he transferred to Hamburg for the next season, but I started following LFC regularly ever since. The departure and arrival of new players over the last 3 decades, has continued to increase my interest. Today I firmly believe I am a fan of the club, and have been for at least the last 20 years. I never started following Hamburg after Keegan joined them. My superhero of last year (Luis Suarez) is my supervillain of this month and for the foreseeable future, so there is no player fixation at all. All my sympathies lie with the club and its future. Maybe in my case, and since I don't live in the neighborhood or the country, the players attracted me to become a fan of the club. My thoughts.

{Ed001's Note - I understand that they can attract originally, Harry was asking why else would anyone from another country want to follow Liverpool.}

I understand Ed001. I would think that even Suarez-fixated Harry would understand that Sport crosses all borders (in most cases) ;-)

{Ed001's Note - only when Suarez leaves the country.....}

Hah. Hilarious Ed001! Hat's off.

27 Jun 2014 04:33:18
Looking for positives.

I am now looking forward to seeing Borini get his chance!

27 Jun 2014 09:57:55
Seems Sunderland are fav to land him. I would be dissapointed If he moves out this season.

27 Jun 2014 01:27:37
Suarez has been banned - fair enough too. However, I get the Feeling that the Uruguayan FA has been a large party to all of this as well. They have created an environment of no accountability, surely they should have acted immediately to hose down the situation rather than add fuel to the fire. Their, along with Suarez's, petulant attitude has made the whole situation a lot worse. I get the feeling that the reason for the length of the total football ban (4 months) was due to their attitude and FIFA's need to show strength. If they had acted more reasonably, I would presume the ban would have not been that long - it basically says that in the FIFA statement if you read between the lines.

Due the stupid actions of Suarez as well as the Uruguyan FA, LFC has been hurt the most by this whole stupid situation. I'm not forgetting Chiellini as he is a victim but seems fine.

Don't get me started on the Uruguyan politicians etc! They seem to live on a different planet!

I actually completely disagree with FIFA ban.

Liverpool took means after the last incident, and had Suarez under control. Liverpool had Suarez working with psychologists, and the coach had the right approach, which not only kept Suarez from biting, but his overall attitude in Premier league this season has been positive as much as possible.

Now if Tabarez and his staff do not work with psychology, and make loose cannons out of their players, in order to provoke the opponents and win "that one more game", why does Liverpool have to pay for that?

International ban, would be fair and square. Ban that extends from FIFA range to UEFA/EPL - complete BS.

{Ed001's Note - but we kept him. So how can you disagree? We should have got rid, as this was always a massive risk, in fact it was odds on that he would end up doing something stupid and get a ban for us. I really don't understand all the whining about it.}

Sorry, but this is blinkered. The aura of non-accountability came from LFC and our awful handling of the racist situation. Even though I supported Suarez myself, the club handled it really badly, and allowed the 'not me to blame' culture to fester.

Yes, the Uruguay FA have also handled it appallingly, but we started it.

I just don't understand how some people can think this is unfair on LFC. The punishment is on Suarez, for HIS repeated transgressions. LFC suffer because we employ him, not because FIFA have had to act to reprimand him because he has sinned in front of 100's of millions of TV viewers.

27 Jun 2014 00:48:34
Don't get me wrong am not condoning suarez's behaviour. However I have to agree with Jamie Carraghers comment that he should only get an international ban and not a domestic ban aswell. Liverpool are being unfairly punished. When Suarez was banned domestically Uruguay were not punished. What do the eds and fellow reds think?

{Ed002's Note - I think you should not start posts with "don't get me wrong" and then use the word "however". The runt was banned not Liverpool. Go think.}

Well, simple solution is sell him and then Liverpool FC won't be 'punished' for whatever nuggety thing he thinks of doing next time (and there almost certainly will be a next time).

We stuck by him. Thought he'd changed. We are now being punished for that.
FIFA are not directly punishing Liverpool, Luis is!

He deserves the ban he got!
We will suffer, obviously, but we will learn.
Luis let this club down, not FIFA.

Enough, anyway.
I've heard supporters saying "players have broken opponents legs, elbows, rabble rabble rabble. "

Physically, the bite isn't an overly dangerous act, fine.
But it's in the spitting category of dog acts isn't it? It deserves a very hefty punishment.
Luis know this. Regardless of his years as a street kid, he now knows he can't do it, yet he does it. Clubs stand by him through all this, and he still does it.
As a Liverpool fan, I am amazed that he's gone to this new level, and hold him, and only him, responsible for any negative impact on Liverpool FC.

The end.

The fee we would get for him will be less. so yeah Liverpool will be punished either way.

{Ed001's Note - that is what happens when you stand by someone who has been repeatedly convicted. There is a very good chance they will let you down again and so it is just tough, they should have sold him last summer.}

27 Jun 2014 10:24:39
Haych, his value is what it is.

Suarez as an asset is dangerous because he carries a risk. His value refects this. Maybe pre-world cup we could have got a bit more for him but that isn't a true reflection of him - this is!

Want to point the finger? Point it at Suarez

27 Jun 2014 07:55:42
To Ed002: LOL. I won't start my comments that way again.

Are you serious ed001? If we had sold him last summer there's not a hope in hell we'd currently have CL football. Last season he kept his nose clean and was a fantastic asset to the squad. I for the record completely agree with the sanction, but have to agree with people saying it hurts Liverpool more than anyone else. Suarez will be sitting at home on 200k a week playing fifa (assuming that's allowed in the terms of the ban) while we play out 20 tough matches without our best player!l

27 Jun 2014 00:29:03
Whether Suarez leaves or not I really think that this ban/sale will really help us get more of a measure of Raheem Sterling. I am hoping we're going to sign someone in that position anyway as it's more of a necessity now with this cretin's actions, however it certainly is an opportunity for Sterling to steal centre stage. He certainly has the skill to do so, and his attitude has been 1st class since breaking into the 1st team.

However this will obviously come with greater pressure as people will start to expect, rather than be astonished by his achievements to date for a 19 year old. I think he can handle that pressure, however I was wondering what you guys think & ed001 if he's around.

He was the 1 positive from England's WC Campaign (if you can call it that) where, despite Roy's personic tactics, he continued to threaten regularly; against Italy especially.

27 Jun 2014 05:42:59
I loved him when first watched him being deployed into a fullback position later in the game (I can't remember which game though), and he was doing really well in defending. Showed his ability to adapt to different positions. I hope he will continue to develop, and maybe one day can turn out to be a world-class player most of people here shouting for.

26 Jun 2014 23:56:40
I'm tired of reading suarez did this last year, suarez did that last year. Suarez did nothing on his own. The team did it together. Every time we lose a world class forward we buy another and turn him into one. We have never had trouble replacing strikers so why worry about suarez? I remember everyone made the same fuss when torres left.

I don't think there is a single team in the league more adept at buying, training and improving strikers. If suarez goes it will be good business for us as a 200k a week striker on holiday for 16 weeks of every year is useless.

Start believing in the team and stop thinking suarez did it on his own. Sturridge managed fine on his own. while suarez was banned last time.

Brilliant post Nevada

Agree with most but here's a list of some strikers we bought and it went pear shaped Heskey Ngog Camara Dundee Carroll lle tallec Borini Aspas and that's off the top of my head! we need to buy world class to replace world class

27 Jun 2014 01:16:22
same thought like you Nevada.

yes we did bought some flops, but which club didn't?

I'm quite confident that somehow, there will be a player coming in that will be turn out to be world-class. who have thought when Suarez came in, he will be such a star, right?

It's not impossible Lambert or Sterling could turn out to be our next world-class players. Or maybe a new name will come, someone who most didn't know much about, and might turn out to be far better than Suarez?

I personally feels that it's not necessary to buy world-class to replace one. We're not Madrid, replacing superstars with superstars, assembling a team of galacticos.

Just an opinion though.

Thanks.

Totally agreed, Nevada. Suarez is a good player (well, when he's allowed into the stadium), but he's neither the be all, end all of football nor the only good player in our team. We have lots of talent and I have every faith in the other lads even if they don't get nearly the credit they deserve for the remarkable season last year.

For me, that's probably the worst part. All of this focus on Suarez and how amazing he is when all he does is s*&t on the supporters and the club whilst those that actually give their all for us, the Flanagans, Hendersons, Sturridges, and others get called average or not get enough. It's really quite sad.

27 Jun 2014 07:58:15
Excellent post.

27 Jun 2014 08:59:59
Unfortunately I would have to disagree with you nevada, Luis is the third best player in the world at the moment minus his antics. he is irreplacable with a like for like quality player, If you know of any player near his quality and who would be willing to sign for Liverpool please give us reds an example.

The only player I can think of who would be good enough and has the potential to be a great would be Marco reus but he seems happy where he is.

Liverpool have never struggled to replace strikers but we've never had a player of suarez quality. its like saying barca would have a ready made replacement if messi left .

{Ed001's Note - Suarez is a fantastic player, but he is not better than Dalglish or Liddell were! Liddell won us the league on his own, has Suarez done that??? Perhaps you should try doing some research, before typing complete nonsense.}

Totally agree, well said

Who fussed when Torres left? Sure he eased off at least 18 months before he left

I completely agree with Nevada and ed001. he is replaceable, I'd like us to buy sanchez and lallana though not sure if getting both would be an option. but I think that would be great options for when suarez is banned and it also means sturridge upfront on his own and he did very very well like that last season.

Irishlloyd

When suarez came to us he was a player with potential who was hard working, skilful but also incredibly wasteful and selfish. Without our coaching staff he would still be that player with potential. If we buy another player with potential (like Sanchez) I have no doubt we'll turn him into a world class one. Have some faith in the club instead of just one player. To say suarez did all this on his own is a massive disservice to Rodgers, the coaching staff and his teammates.