Liverpool Banter Archive May 27 2013

 

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27 May 2013 22:10:42
at the end of the day edd is one man one opinion like us all. u can't please everyone. i'm sure he can find superlatives for benitez, given he's a chelsea fan and d recent events with benitez been there. At end of the day benitez delivered and with that team he would acheive gr8 things. But given the fact chelsea fans collectively (like a group of edd002s really) and their agendas or opinions against him determined his fate. I however like rodgers. couldn't care less what he says but what he does over a given time which is yet to happen. by no means a dig at edd002, but what i'm saying is u can't be offended by opinion. I love the sarcy stuff. Its a thick skinned world in my view. the constant barrage of the same question would provoke the same response from me. But just because he finds rodgers a flake in his mind is fine. We are all flawed as human beings, and peoples attitude or how they act can irk anyone in all walks of life. mourinho for example (in my opinion) is a dreadfull fella, but the man wins and that's d bottom line. me calling him a dreadfull fella, shouldn ruin your xmas. team rodgers, team lfc. I've a feeling we will love the flake and not the chocolate bar
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27 May 2013 22:06:19
Any news on Hatem Ben Arfa?

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Yeah he is french plays for newcastle and is injury prone!

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Brilliant :D

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Henderson hassled and hustled Ben Afra into retreating with the ball and then Coutinho came in and pinched the ball off of Ben Afra's toe on the half way line right by the touchline and then proceeded to run 30 yards and set up Daniel Sturridge from the same play.

Ben Afra is better when he's playing against you rather than playing for you. He doesn't pass out of trouble quick enough and makes stupid mistakes, but he has a lot of ability. It's more tactical faults and weaknesses rather than lack of skill or ability. But this is just my opinion. Great on his day it's just he doesn't have enough of them over a season.

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27 May 2013 22:05:48
We need a player that can hold up the ball so maybe Brendon Rodgers will keep Andy Carroll.

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He can hardly hold himself up never mind the ball!

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No, we don't need a player who can hold up the ball. We need players with quick reflexes and technical skills who can control a ball, find space and keep a move flowing= not Andy Caroll.

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28 May 2013 07:24:42
Tirconnail.
Lol. hahahha. beauty.

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28 May 2013 09:42:24
Maybe BR will keep Carroll? Haha, f'in HAA.
He already accepted 12m from westham! So bye Carroll, hope to never hear your name conected with Liverpool again! The biggest waste and worst excuse of a footballer! Get a grip!

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27 May 2013 21:52:17
Good luck rafa, top manger and a top man. YNWA

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Just a pity he failed so badly at our club.

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27 May 2013 21:50:31
What players from lfc will be playing in the under 21 world cup

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Shelvey, Hendo, Robinson and Wisdom

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28 May 2013 13:02:50
Sam, none of the players you mentioned will play in the world cup! They will play in the euros, and so will Borini.

In the world cup I think Conor Coady, Jordan Ibe and adam morgan will play.

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I assumed he meant the Euro's as in the nearest competition - no way possibly to tell who will be at the U21 world cup!

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27 May 2013 21:48:58
Would you be happy with kolo toure

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Yes. . .

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28 May 2013 09:47:04
Yes, if he was 1 of 2 new CBs and the other one to be Botia! Great ball playing defender!

Malak

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27 May 2013 21:41:52
I think signing players that are from Africa, Ghana etc then to lose them possibly for 2 months in January/February is a big mistake.
Man city miss Yaya Toure big time during that period.
Spurs to a point miss Adebayour.
Chelsea miss Obi Mikel
Newcastle lose Tiote
These are key players for these clubs and maybe that is why Manchester United steer clear to my knowledge.
I could go on and as far as I know we have just one Assaidi who goes, But if we sign Kolo Toure he will be missing also.
This is nothing to do with being racist but just want to know other peoples feelings on the subject and have a debate. {Ed002's Note - But not this coming winter.}

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27 May 2013 23:08:11
You are wrong, we shall not follow the Manc movement, so what if we miss them for 2 months that should not be a reason to stay clear of them, Drogba, etto, etc have been great

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I see your point and it does worry me as well. However, most of the time (but not always) the African Nations cup is every 2 years. 2 months every two years shouldn't be a reason not to buy someone who can really add to the team for 22 months in 2 years

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27 May 2013 21:26:20
Heard something about R. Madrid willing to offer Benzema & Di Maria for Suarez, any truth in that? I would accept that as it's two of the top 30 attacking players in the world for 1 of the top 10 and a title-challenging team needs class and flair all over the attack. Also heard something about Chelsea offering us Torres for 15 million as they owe us, what's that about?

Thanks {Ed002's Note - What are you phone bills like?}

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28 May 2013 07:25:45
Benzema and Di maria won't join us. we cannot offer CL.

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27 May 2013 21:25:13
is it true begovic told bosnian media ‘I’ll start preparing on July 10, with all the players of Liverpool, ’? {Ed002's Note - It is true. There is a pub quiz arranged and they should all be there.}

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Is it true though ed do you think begovic will be our new goalkeeper {Ed002's Note - I have explained the interest in him. Try the search function.}

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27 May 2013 21:22:14
Now Neymar has joined Barca, who do u think will leave eds? And to us? {Ed002's Note - The same as has always been said.}

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Probably Sanchez Tello and Villa plus Thiago.

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27 May 2013 21:19:23
Hi eds just wondered your views on Granero and Remy of QPR as targets?
Daniellambretta {Ed002's Note - I really have no idea what to say.}

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This site is addictive and has to be the place to visit for true Liverpool fans.

The best things about the site in no particular order are ed001 because it is his baby and he is a true Liverpool fan who actually knows what he is talking about.

Ed002 simply because he is a fountain of knowledge and clearly finished his high school education. Just a shame that he has an affinity for Chelsea. Maybe one day in your extensive travels ed002 you will be found on the road to Damascus and you will become a member of the Liverpool family.

The true Liverpool supporters who care for the club and realise what it means to us all.

Lets aim high next season. let's win with style so that we can be proud of our team and gain respect from our competitors. Win with humility and dignity.

Red custard

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27 May 2013 21:12:27
Hey ed002! I'm a big fan of yours and love the way you deal with people on here. Today I've noticed a bit of anger in your replies. Don't let the persons bring you down but at the same time please don't criticize the LFC heroes they worship because at the same time you hit back at the persons, you too irk the decent posters by having digs at Rodgers, Suarez and whoever else. It's not Rodgers' or luis' fault they get put on a pedestal and they cannot defend themselves here. They have their faults, sure, but if you're pissed at an person fan, just ignore it rather than lower your own standards by slagging off staff. Cheers for the good work mate. Ps don't post this if you like. It's not really banter.

Jason {Ed002's Note - I appreciate the comments Jason - and they are vais pretty much .... but. Hopefully you are out there supporting me through my Facebook fan site - tinyurl.com/c6j7t2m - a seriously fun place to visit. What I provide are not digs - it is the "ugly truth" that Rodgers is becoming a bit of a flake and Suarez, a really great footballer, is truly dumber than a box of rocks. Rodgers is trying to impress because it it perhaps still one job too soon. Suarez is a wonderful player but it would be tough to support his behavioral issues. I don't for one moment consider him a racist and teh Ivanovic issue was just dumb - but he has to figure this stuff out.}

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27 May 2013 22:27:06
Ahhh what! Sorry Ed002 I can't f****** stand facebook. I'll just stick to this instead ;-)

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I have battled with you in the past Ed002, those comments you made there are totally honest and fair play to you, I totally agree ( which may not do your rep much good on here )

Waro

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Ed002,
I don't understand the term 'flake'.
However, the minute I saw Rodgers. I considered FSG had made a big mistake.
He didn't look the part, had no charisma and almost no track record, certainly one at a high level. He reminded me of a car salesman, he still does. An opportunist with a good sales patter. With no substance to back it up.

If things continue the same way as now. I forsee, only disappointment.

Bob.

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27 May 2013 23:28:15
rodgers is a man who believes in his own ideas and has worked hard for years through the coaching system, to call him a flake is very unfair ED. Liverpool have played better football than chelsea and any to four team, scored more goals and with one fir striker for half, a huge pat on the back and the backing from real football fans is in order. not your comments

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27 May 2013 23:30:23
if suarez is dumb as u say, then how dumb is abromovich for spending 50 mil on torres and bringing in a manager nobody wanted.

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Suarez has won a single medal. Abromoviches £50m "flop" has an FA Cup winners medal, a CL winners medal and a Europa League winners medal.

Same time period for both.

Yeh, Abramovich must feel like a right tit.

Melbourne CFC

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Haha ill have to get on that Facebook page. I appreciate where you're coming from and agree with you to a degree. Suarez to me seems smarter than his actions suggest (perhaps he is looking for a way out without looking like a bad guy to the fans- ie giving the owners no other option. ) I hope as you say though he is just stupid and not as conniving as I suspect, because I can't help but love the guy.
What is it with Rogers you see as flaky? I have to say his comments in the press are always the same (improving the group with more quality- yeah Brendan I think the owners heard you) but again he seems like a good man. What do you think of him in terms of his ability?

Cheers,
Jason

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BR is a bit of a flake, but he's our flake at the moment and, weird motivational speaker seminar moments aside, he's done an alright job.

Suarez is either dumb or a genius, I can't figure out which. Somehow although he doesn't really deserve it he manages to get supporters to love him (the same was true at Ajax) even when his actions are incongruent with his public 'I love the club' statements.

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Fan site? Tsk *shakes head*

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Youd expect him to have those medals considering the amount of money spent on that team in the last few years

hardly anything to boast about, i'd be worried if you didnt

one thing torres doesn't have anymore if the love and respect from Liverpool fans, you can't buy that from us but you can buy that from you.

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27 May 2013 21:10:21
Hi Eds is there any interest from the premier league clubs in Rakitsky from Shaktar if he doesn't sign a new deal?
ForzaRed {Ed002's Note - Not that I am aware.}

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27 May 2013 20:47:28
Samuel etoo, zlatan ibra, david villa, alexis sanches, pedro rodrigue and now Neymar.
players who were always hidden in the shadow of Messi.
If thses never would have moved to barca. they would have been as good as Messi.
Barca Probably the only club who will play a No. 9 at the right wing. {Ed002's Note - Ibrahimovic would need to get up real early in the morning to hide in the shadow of Messi. I fear a joke too far.}

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I really don't understand this post. They would have never been as good as messi in a million years.

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I think they would. make great sundial!

Phooey.

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Good point Harry, but think of them as supporting cast to Messi, after all, they are/were in the same team.

Ed002, nice to know you have human thoughts :D

The real AG

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I was reading this like this has got to be one of the most pointless stupid post on this site and then I realised who posted it and the world made sense again

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I was reading this like this has got to be one of the most pointless stupid post on this site and then I realised who posted it and the world made sense again

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27 May 2013 20:29:42
Few mates of Jason Steele have mentioned that LFC have made enquiries. let's hope not.
GoodKopBadKop

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I live in the same town as Jason Steele. He is going to be a great keeper. Would love to see him come in as back up for a year or 2 then progress into the first team. His distribution is quality.
YNWA
Jamesy

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27 May 2013 20:32:04
Personally I would love to see, vorm come in to replace reina rather than begovic, Ashley Williams, however toure is the cheaper option, eriksen and Ben arfa. Personally think a holding mid is needed also but would be delighted with the players mentioned above.

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Vorm, no thanks. We need a GK who can take control of crosses and be commanding in the air in and around the 6 yard box, which has been the main problem with Pepe this season. Begovic is a younger and cheaper option compared with Vorm, and much more reliable in my opinion.

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27 May 2013 20:31:47
I wouldn't normally compromise my contact within the club but as I want to ask a question so I felt I should offer something in return! First, the rumour, Lithuanian 'keeper Emilijus Zubas is a target. Now the question, can anybody please provide reliable info on which LFC U21 and youth players contracts expire this summer? Thank you.

leej1973 {Ed002's Note - Try transfermarket.co.uk as they get the data from a company that has a database and staff correlating the UEFA source data that sould be correct(ish).}

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27 May 2013 20:19:02
The one thing destroying this site is the childish questions over and over again.
We all come to this site for some news but to have to read the same BS after a name pops up at twitter is really getting on my nerves.

Sorry for that but the window is still closed and the most popular answer from the ed's is:
RTFP, RTP, TTSF.

It is disturbing to have to scroll through the nonsense questions.

It is not my intention to offend anyone but please be more sensitive with the Editor's and the site in general.

Rant

Stoffe

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Stoffe you should just relax. 99% of
the questions/posts on here are nonsense (including this one)

Puzzled

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27 may 2013 20:17:44
i have got to say, i feel next season there is a real opportunity to push for 4th or dare i say even higher, this is purely due to the uncertainty around several clubs next season so if we could get the correct players in in the summer then we could really make a mark, but sadly the players who were strongly linked with are about as exciting as a trainspotters diary.

it's been mentioned that the club monitor sites such as this, so i would say this to the owners, get your f**kin hands in your pockets and buy quality! if aspas and toure are the calibre of player we are looking at, then there's no way rodgers can be blamed if we fail to make the most of this opportunity, the blame will lie squarely at the feet of the owners.

i'm hoping rodgers is telling them that this is where they need to gamble, and if they truely believe as they say in his " philosophy ", then this where they need to back the manager, if not then move on!

so come on werner, your fond of doing glossy interviews when the timings right telling us how you can buy the best and how you intend to make us the top side in england etc etc, now is time to put up or shut up!

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Even when being optimistic, you have to make a dig at the owners. I bet your a right laugh at a Funeral

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Good point Waro.

This summer is vital, with major changes at several clubs. If we can jump the pack ahead by buying a couple of quality players, Papa, Digne, Begovic etc, I feel we can surprise a few next year.

The real AG

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Waro how can you have a dig at the owners?! We've been one of the top spenders in Europe so why would you tell them to spend money like they haven't already?

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Waro how can you have a dig at the owners?! We've been one of the top spenders in Europe so why would you tell them to spend money like they haven't already?

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I can't quite figure you out Waro. Not meaning to have a dig at you, but on one hand you want the owners to put their hands in their pockets (which they've done already and keep doing as you know full well) but on the other hand your ideal is a supporter-owned club (which would have very little money and no pockets to speak of to dig into). Can you explain how these two thoughts are not contradictory? Again, really not trying to be inflammatory, but to me these seem like polar opposite positions?

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If the owners hadn't been spending money like it was going out of fashion you might have a point, Waro. However, they have and you don't.

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We've been one of the top sellers aswell, we need to add quality to quality like chelsea do not sell buy sell buy sell selll selll buy

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RDL, your reply makes no sense. Yes your right, I would like the club owned by the supporters, and you have made a lot of assumptions if that were ever to happen. But what that has to do with my OP I have no idea, and the owners net spend is average at best for a club your size and with our alleged aspirations.

So i'm struggling to see the contridiction your talking about, so I will try to simplify it for you from my point of view.

IMO the owners net spending on players has been p**s poor since they took over, there IMO is a window of opportunity next season with so much transitonal change at several clubs above us to grasp the nettle and really go for it buy uping the net spend at the club and buying genuine established quality which won't come cheap, if we do this who knows what could happen, if we don't and continue this bargain basement buy too sell policy then this golden opportunity will be missed. ( Nothing to do with my own preference for owners of our great club! )

Has that explained my OP for you RDL? I do hope so old bean.

Waro

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Waro he's a very confused lad.

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27 May 2013 20:16:30
Rafa new Napoli boss, Martinez at Everton tbc in next couple of days.

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Tba = to be announced.
tbc = to be certified.

Hmm.

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To be confirmed

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27 May 2013 20:14:27
Pepe Reina certain to leave this summer. Current premier league goalkeeper on the way in. Expect movement this week.

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Seen a lot of names mentioned for the gk spot.
Begovic, Vorm, Mignolet, Ochoa, Trapp
Zieler, Zubas, McCarthy, Ruffier.
Personally I'd like us to get rid of Jones aswell, and get Wayne Hennesey as back up.

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27 May 2013 19:58:43
Hi all just a quick question.
Anyone asked Brendan who, s names was in the 3 envelopes. Am dying to know.
Great work Eds but will soon be busy in about a months time. {Ed002's Note - You will never know that there were no names. It was a crass attempt at motivaton - probably something advocated by some flake like Tom Peters. Rodgers (was a nice guy regardls of teh fat clammy handshake) seems to be rapidly heading in that direction.}

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Little bit ott ed2 and I think the person who did the envelop thing first was none other than Sir Aelx Fergerson. {Ed002's Note - The question was about Liverpool - if you want an honest answer, then I gave it. You want some BS guessing at names, ask somewhere else. It is nothing to do with Ferguson.}

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Rodgers believing his own hype Ed? {Ed002's Note - I would think there is a good chance that only 30% of the foreign players knew what his first team speech was about, and only 5% of the English players knew what it was about.}

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Although. We do have a manager. ZING

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It was Shankly who did the envelopes long before Ferguson. Hence why Carra and Gerrard weren't impressed

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Ed 002
Thanks very much for reply.
Thought it was just a bit of motivation/mindgames with the players and you have clarified.
Ignore the Manc, probably all the managers do something like this but don't have cameras following them around to see it.
Good luck in the coming months with transfers coming up and keep up the great work you and the other EDS do. {Ed002's Note - I suspect it is as I said and a Tom Peters type scenario. Thanks for the support.}

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I take it you are not a fan the Ed? {Ed002's Note - I liked the guy but have not had any contact post Reading. I said before it might well be one job too early and will stand by that - I don't like the envelopes and the pushy speeches. I have always been nervous about folks who seemingly have no bones in their hands when you shake them. But I will not take away the effort he will be making for the club - and that is why he needs the support of the fans.}

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27 May 2013 21:33:45
The envelopes said howard webb, the f. a and joe f*cking cole

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Rodgers, pascoe, marsh.

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THe envelopes said {Ed001's Note - no he won't.....}

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I think someone has their Chelsea blinders on. You do realize we won't be getting a new manager every year, Right Ed? {Ed002's Note - I have no idea what you comment means nor what it has to do with Chelsea.}

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I respectfully disagree with you ed2. IMO Rodgers has been a breathe of fresh air for us. I believe he's ready and capable of managing Liverpool. he's young, hungry, diplomatic and has a clear direction regarding how he wants his team to play. Time and, as you rightfully point out - support from appropriate people including fans, and he'll do well. I suppose it is time though that will tell which of us is right. Oh, and by the way, as an earlier poster pointed out, your answers are a little on the terse side. Is it really a surprise to you when people respond negatively.

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27 May 2013 19:55:44
Hey pals, eds, hope you are all doing great. I have noticed since yesterday the bashing Atsu has received here, especially from those that have never watched him play. There are those on here who tend to bash players because their dogs are also doing so.
Atsu is a very brilliant player with a bright future ahead of him. He has this instict of Messi ( not comparing him please) which is admirable from a young player. He has pace, trickery and a hell of a shot on him. To me it will be very good to acquire him, not because I am a Ghanaian but his tremendous potential.
Fo those of you who criticize any young players we have been linked with should have time to watch them before they comment on them.
Thanks eds and pals
Cheers

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I haven't seen Atsu play, but what I wonder about is why Porto would let a young player with apparent massive potential leave for as little as 3 million.
Cheers

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The don't want him to go! His next contract. if he signs with Porto. will have a release clause of more than £20mil

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27 May 2013 18:56:54
I know Macca has said suarez is staying but I think if an offer of 50 million plus came in, I think the club would find it hard to say no!

All i'm saying is I wouldn't say suarez is staying because if the right offer comes in, he will be gone. Every player has their price! Really hope suarez stays because I genuinely think we will be top 4 next season.

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27 May 2013 20:21:46
What I meant is that Suarez will stay unless the owners decide to cash in.

Cheers

Macca

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Yes if an offer of 50 mil came it would be great but Suarez is worth 1 billion to the club. when you choose to sell a player it because you can afford to lose him. Players get attracted to clubs by other players like neymar to messi. We will keep Suarez but if we don't secure CL football this year he is gone.

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He is worth £40 mill tops

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27 May 2013 21:16:35
Macca do you recon 50 million will be enough to convince them in your opinion? I'm sure we could get more for him.

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Was that not already obvious?

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28 May 2013 09:33:17
Macca, who are we attracting to the club if suarez is staying? Any big names ;). I think we could do with a ben arfa or alex sanchez on the right wing? Its a position that needs strenthening because I don't think downing will be good enough to hold that position down? we need some class there.

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27 May 2013 18:55:24
On being Liverpool brendan was saying that shelvey had all the tools to be a star and stuff and now all of a sudden its looking like he will join west ham? what has happened?

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I think shelvey could have become a excellent player for us but his attitude at times when I've seen him play this season has been shocking also the outburst on twitter about Liverpool supporters not knowing anything was a bit much for me. If he stays I'd love him to fulfill the potential that he has but if he leaves I wish him well.

gee man

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In my garage I have all the tools to build fine furniture and repair car engines. But, sadly, I am not good enough.
ProfG

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Hendo imrpoved and the magic Coutinho arrived. this and the fact that we are interested in Eriksen and don't have euro games next year means Jonjo has to move or face no game time.

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Spot on profg

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27 May 2013 18:41:08
Hey eds, is there any interest in the Basel goal keeper Yann Sommer? Either from Liverpool or anywhere else? {Ed002's Note - From Italy, yes.}

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27 May 2013 17:55:54
hi eds reds haven't posted for a while, eds could you say, at this stage, where genuine interest lies in players, for the summer window? I have seen lots of names mentioned, but the main names please, thanks godbless96 steviep62 {Ed002's Note - RTP please.}

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27 May 2013 18:19:55
Just a suggestion: I see that many people ask you the same questions over and over again about Liverpool's situation with a certain player. You should have a section at the beginning of the page which summarises the situations of players e. g. Diego Capel - Marseille, Swanswea & Braga have shown interest, price tag is 6mill, his agent has spoken to multiple clubs.

Once again this is just a suggestion as I imagine it must bore you to receive the same questions multiple times.

Great job guys, keep it up {Ed002's Note - It makes no difference. We tried it. That is why we have a search function.}

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27 May 2013 18:02:15
I for one would not mind suarez being sold if the 50 mil fee is true. Granted he is a brilliant player but not worth all the hassle that comes with it. Look how well we performed without him. Spend that money on 1 top class defender 15 mil and with the other 35 a striker and a winger let's say sanchez 20mil and benzema 15 mil. Plus you have other outgoings and transfer budget. Things would look a great deal better in my opinion.
Johnaldinioh

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This lad has been the best to wear the shirt for a long. long time. big mistake to sell him for me mate

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Because benzema would want to join Lfc and Sanchez has been awful for barcelona so no thanks to him.

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I know he has been the best but we are at a crucial stage in the clubs development and I feel he is a small bit too greedy and you can see when he plays other players sit back and watch the show. Its time for all 11 players to stand up and be counted and not live in the shadow of this circus suarez has turned us into. Also the benzema suggestion was just an example and i'm sure whoever replied does not know him personally or know if he would move to Liverpool or not.
Johnaldinioh

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Let's face it, in the first half of the season if he wasn't selfish we would of been srewed because the fact is that the players around him wernt good or consistant enuff! To say he's turned us into a circus is a bit strong for me mate

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No I don't know Benzema personally but i'm not deluded and Benzema is a first team regular with hig practically swapping every other game he's at real madrid enjoying his football, champions league, healthy salary, Challenging for trophies. Now tell me where in his mind is thinking I could do with going to England where the weather is brilliant and join a team that's finished 7th in the prem with no champions league or european football for that matter. GET REAL I don't need to know Benzema

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27 May 2013 18:02:15
Hey ed's! Is it true that Alex Pearce will sign for us as soon as his contract with Reading runs out this summer? Cheers, Scouserseb

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27 May 2013 17:59:46
When Suarez goes. You will see how much he carried Liverpool this year. {Ed002's Note - When not banned.}

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Did you look at the results without him? Plus the fact we would get some sort of replacement even if it's not as good.

Who do you support then? United, RVP? Tottenham, bale?

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If he goes we will buy other people

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27 May 2013 19:10:10
Top draw mate. Just finished watching Liverpool vs zenith.
63rd min. free-kick 30 yards out.
commentry ". This sort of range ot would take something special. "
Suarezzzzzzzzzzz. my world. there is nothing this man cannot do.
I said it would take something special. My world it bend in. How about that for a free kick.

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We won 10 points out of 12 while he was banned this season and 7 out of 15 the last time (although during that time we also beat Man United in the FA Cup and City in the League Cup). Yeah, we're awful without Suarez.

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27 May 2013 17:59:22
Hello ed (s) and fellow reds
This 120 million quid for winning the play off final has really got me thinking, we should seriously contemplate getting relegated and getting to the play off :p Would help us renovate the whole squad haha
On a more serious note, how can so much money be paid for a second tier competition. It sets them up even stronger than teams working harder day in day out in the premier league? Atrocious.
How is this money divided anyways!
RedSox69 {Ed002's Note - It is not a prize, it is the potential earnigs from being in the EPL plus parachute payments.}

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27 May 2013 17:58:40
Hi Eds & Reds,

Can we have a "serious" discussion on opinions of Joe Allen?

Im undecided.

ForzaRed

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Start of the season he was grate now he is terrible next year hopefully he becomes grate

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He is just an ordinary joe

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I thought he played very well at Swansea and was quite good beginning of the season when Lucas was out. At some point it seemed to go sideways for him, but hopefully he'll come back strongly.

That said, for me the issue is I don't know where he fits in the current first team (which I presume includes Lucas, Gerrard, and Coutinho in CDM, CM, CAM fashion). I see Henderson as more of a Gerrard type of player than Allen, Suso as more of a Coutinho type, but I don't think Allen is a CDM or adequate backup directly for Lucas nor do I think he would fit the bill as a box-to-box CM or attacking mid. If Allen is to play the whole shape of the team has to be shuffled a bit to suite him, I think?

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He was brilliant until he picked up that shoulder injury. He carried on playing with it so his form got worse and worse as a result. His second season should be a lot better.

MIKEY

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He's not going to make Liverpool contenders again. Simple!

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For me he isn't strong enuff, losers the ball to much an seems to get lost. realy hope he proves me wrong. end of the day he's got the shirt on!

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Great talent has all the attributes to be a top quality player and will have my full support as long as he is a Liverpool player. People forget he was carrying a injury most of the season give him a chance

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Listen, he comes across as a really nice kid and I hope he can bulk up or something to help him in this division because at the moment I wouldn't let him anywhere near the first team, he's simply to small and weak, it's like watching a 14 year old playing against men, he's too light weight. We all want him to do well, so hopefully the club are working with him on improving his conditioning, otherwise the people at the club are not doing there job.

Waro

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My view is he has got to improve next year.
He has had this year to settle, get used to being a new Father, playing for a Big club, new city etc.
I fell he played very well in the beginning of the season, if not a tad defensive.
I agree wil RDL that I am also un-sure of which position in the team he plays.

Phooey.

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Glad to see some support for him. I like watching him play and I'm sure he'll get more influential as time goes on. ForzaRed

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I don't think they would come much smaller than Coutinho so I don't honestly think that is the issue. I watch Allen and I don't know what position he is playing or where his best position is. A big season cominh up for him.

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When the team were playing poorly at the start of the season he looked good in a very average side. However, second half especially, as the quality of the football got better, he looked way out of his depth.
Hendo, Lucas and Gerrard over him any day.
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27 May 2013 17:45:21
Expect Liverpool to buy young, cheap and quality players.
Under 25, under £20 million and underrated.

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27 May 2013 18:47:14
15m players are not "cheap".

You can tell who's from the Sky and CM generation!

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Liverpool will sign the next big thing that never made it with all the potential and still everything to prove some may say there last chance at a big club

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Well I was going to say around £10 million.
However I liked my quote for under 25, under £20 million and underrated. Didn't you?

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27 May 2013 17:27:45
I'm sorry, but if we sold Torres for 50 mill, Suarez should be worth 60 atleast! He's been much better for us than Torres was in my opinion! Although, I still think Torres was outstanding for us too!

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Liverpool need to stay strong on suarez get every single penny other clubs around the world get huge money for players we need to stick it out come on ayre show some balls

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27 May 2013 18:25:33
Torres was the definition of complete CF. He wasn't a one season wonder. he was just pure class.

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Toress was never a complete forward. He had a great touch, lightning pace and a brilliant finish. He also had that burst. The last season but his heart wasn't in it and he left at the right time I guess.
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Yes, but Torres was past his best when we sold him. Suarez continues to get better
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Atletico now have some money to put towards Suarez, Monaco might have more money, Pelligrini might want Suarez at City but those games banned will still stand. Real might decide Suarez is their new galactico? It's all quite interesting, I personally think any day now Suarez will have a very public bid put forward and I think we'll have to accept, albeit seemingly reluctantly, i've heard whispers of a £40 million release fee, but then he agreed a new contract, might be more, might be less. might be completely untrue? Best case scenario is a nice bidding war with three or four teams looking to flex their muscle and make a huge statement.

I'm glad Suarez got to fifty goals and i'll be chuffed if he can raise £50 million+ and maybe get three players with the ability to change a game. Never get better than Suarez, he's the best at what he does and it's been super effective for us but all good things come to an end and I think Suarez's head has been turned, what he/his agent was doing with Nedved last season on multiple occasion was two fingers to all of us in a sense. :)

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27 May 2013 17:12:04
I thought the idea of Nuri Sahin going back to Germany was to get game time. Has he really had any impact in the Dortmund team since he went back there? He rarely gets into the team.

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Why do you care? He's no longer our player

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Gladly 'YNWA' means just that to some, it seems, even if the player in question wasn't able to reach any sort of heights on the pitch for Liverpool.

YNWA Sahin, unfortunately was never able to make a consistent impact in the few months he spent on loan with us.

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I watched him a few years ago in Hermany and he was probably one of the best DM in Europe. Injuries have hurt him in addition to how he was played at Liverpool didn't help. He was played in the 10 role!

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No way is he better than the midfielders they now have. Gundogan and Bender are great

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He's become scared to go in for tough challenges at CDM. He needs to get his head sorted to ever be what he was

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27 May 2013 17:02:16
Hi Eds,

May I know your opinion on Center Back that LFC will be sign this summer?

Carlos Zambrano - Heard we submit 9M offer for him. Going to replace Skrtel I guess. Still young & got leadership Quality.

Kyriakos Papadoupolos - 12M offered. Seems Rodgers confident we will land him. Injured currently.

Kolo Toure - FREE signing. I think while people disagree, Koule perform good at Arsenal & City's defence. Worth free signing if free & if he prepare to take pay cut.

Tiago Ilori - Are we still interested in him? As a backup or as Coates replacement?

Thanks Eds and kindly sharea your opinion on this.


-znydz- {Ed002's Note - Please try the search function.}

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27 May 2013 16:37:05
Hi eds and fellow posters,

Personally, I don't think our primary targets are any that have been listed here.

Now, don't get me wrong Eds I'm not doubting you or where you say we have interest, I just don't know if any of those players will arrive, personally.

Liverpool and Rodgers have done well before to hide their real targets and get a good deal. Joe Allen, of course being the exception to this.

I expect, and hope the club to pull of some astute signings and I am really looking forward to what should be a fantastic summer window worldwide!

Would like to hear other fan's opinions on this.

Thanks,

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Hard to tell from the signings so far. Borini and Coutinho were under the radar but Sturridge and Allen were heavily rumoured. There will likely be a mix.

Red Ollie

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Sturridge was no secret and neither was Borini. Only surprises were Assaidi and Coutinho, and there were sniffs at Coutinho being reported. So about 1. 5/5 really doesn't mean we're good at keeping secrets

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In fairness, Sturridge was only widely reported because it was widely reported that we failed to get him in the window before so were likely to be going after him again with him wanting to leave Chelsea

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27 May 2013 16:29:48
Hi eds and reds,
Who are the Liverpool players likely to leave this Summer?
Reina, Skrtel, Coates, Spearing, Shelvey, Downing, Assaidi, Pacheco and Carroll.
Are those the most likely to go?

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I would like to have seen Coates given a proper run in the side. He was one of the outstanding players when Uruguay won the Copa America.
CB is one of the most difficult positions to establish yourself and at his very young age I do not think he has been given a proper run. I remember Tony Adams when he broke into the Arsenal side, looked very shaky early on, look how his on-field career turned out.
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27 May 2013 16:22:56
Best of luck to Danny Wilson! Never really got the chance to prove himself here! YNWA

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He didn't get the chance because he wasn't good enough to feature for the first team. Watched plenty of him in reserves / youth and he was too prevalent to launching the ball lacking any real composure.
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His performances in U21 and Hearts showed that he was most suited to being a mid table Scotland/Championship defender. It's hardly a poor level but it's not our level, so good luck to the rest of his career

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27 May 2013 16:18:46
If LFC was to sell lucas because rafa makes no secret how much he likes him as a footie player I think mile jedanak could be a cheap but relible player JON96

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Having a good game in the championship is he good god what next kevin phillips for backup or almunia to replace reina even though he couldn't cut it at arsenal get a grip

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27 May 2013 19:50:39
Well he's a premier league player now does he fit into LFC NOW u no nothing bout footie your probably 1 of them that wants gearnio of qpr when at real look where he is now what I've seen of jedniak is he is strong in the air lucas isn't he is quicker than lucas and more comfie on the ball than lucas am I wrong we make a good few quid on a player who hasn't been the same since his injury and bring a player who has what it takes in my opinion and hungry to play at the biggest and best club in the WORLD LFC JON96

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27 May 2013 20:28:53
I'm just saying in my opinion lucas hasn't been the same since his injury and I think jedinak is quicker stronger better on the ball and what were missing most is he scores goals and with a great set up like ours can only make him better and if we could get a decent few quid on lucas why not JON96

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Why don, t we play gerrard in lucas, s role and target the next steven gerrard also could prolong his career

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27 May 2013 16:15:16
I'm a little worried about zaha going to united, he oozes talent. How come we never went in for him eds?

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His end product is shocking

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We're not going to beat United to prospects like Zaha who everyone and his mother knows about.

Red Ollie

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27 May 2013 17:46:42
Every time I watch him I just see ronaldo in the guy, he will only get better. Wish he was coming to us

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Just wait to comment after he's played against prem full backs pony brigade

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Seriously Zaha is very ordinary and will not make the grade.

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Zaha is decent and reasonably advanced for his age. However, he has never produced anything noteworthy on a long term consistent basis (like over a season) or against top quality defenses

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27 May 2013 16:44:33
Is anybody else worried? I mean a few weeks back we've been linked with papadop digne alderweirlder eriksen Martinez, now all of a sudden we're making offers for Pearce rose aspas Atsu players who are just obviously not good enough and who are no better than what we already have, I really hope the club has something up there sleeve that the media don't no about because right now it's just depressing!

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I feel what your saying I guess we 'll wait an see

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If one set of links all turn out to be rubbish, why would the next set not also be rubbish? don't get excited or worried when you see us linked to anything or anyone, it's pointless

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27 May 2013 15:58:57
Not lfc related but just a question. If 3rd place in the championship get 120mill, then what does 1st get. Surely getting 1st is better so therefore they should get more? Also, if that's the case, what does 3rd and 4th of the BPL get?
Cheers! Great site. {Ed002's Note - You have misunderstood something somewhere.}

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Basically they could get 55m due to tv deal and then if relegated they will receive 60m parachute payment over 4 years

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What was said on a web site before the game was the winner of the playoff final. that its worth £120 million to the winner, but that's got to include the tv rights and guaranteed parachute payments

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Its really only about getting promoted to the Premier League and the riches it holds for the promoted clubs. The tv money and even the parachute payments they receive if they get relegated again.

The Irish Rover

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27 May 2013 15:39:57
Heard from a friend that Begovic deal could be on for as 'little' as £6m and won't be a replacement for Reina but rather to act as competition.

Apparently he isn't happy at Stoke and Stoke are willing to listen to offers as they have Butland.

Wold love this to be true. Do not want us to get rid of Reina!

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According to reports, he rejected Chelsea and mancs because he won't play second fiddle, so why would he join us to play second to Pepe?

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More like 15-20m

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15- 20 million, you're having a laugh.

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27 May 2013 15:33:49
Danny Wilson going to Hearts. no fee, but off the wage bill

Andy

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Because we lack financial clout, we have to find a different way to compete with the best. Basically our scouts have to search the globe for 'star player potential'. This will be hit and miss as we have seen. The Academy plays an important part in our future too. Patience is key to success though. Question is 'are we prepared to wait?'

Grant

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27 May 2013 15:20:34
Hi Eds,

Do we need a Billionaire owner to compete?

Marc {Ed002's Note - Many of the fans crave vast amounts of money to be spent - they don't care who on, just as long as it is lots of money. So a Billionaire would help.}

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No ed we really do care who its on most are still livid on the dross we bought 2 seasons ago

But top players tend to cost top proces and we are a club expecting to compete for the title anyting other than that is simply not good enough and doesn't match our expectations that will never change

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No we don't, just look at Dortmund at how things can be done properly without the need for a sugar daddy

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Its certainly helping at Chelsea andMan City!

The Irish Rover

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A billionaire would be great lol :)

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No we don't crave lots of money to be spent on just anybody the fans are just getting frustrated that were linked with top players like eriksen alderweirlder papadop and we end up with Pearce rose ect.

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I want players who won't to play for the Liverbird and the club. Not to see how big they can make there bank balance.

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The thing is I struggle to see how we can compete. Yes teams have in the past won without spending millions for example Montpelier in France and Dortmund in Germany. Yes we have spent huge amounts and failed and we are paying for that yet teams such as Man city, United, Chelsea can spend huge amounts and get it wrong unlike us. Without owners who have very deep pockets I fail to see what impact we can make on even the top four.

Marc {Ed002's Note - So consistently being one of the top spendingvteams in the world, and certainly in England isn't enough?}

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Yes Ed, As you can tell our fans are extremely happy with the likes of Henderson, Carroll, Downing & Allen. {Ed002's Note - They moan about everyone - it is impossible to tell who they like now.}

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'they don't care who on, just as long as it is lots of money. ' - Ed002, I'd say this statement is a tad too sweeping and a harsh generalisation. After the purchases of Downing, Carroll et al, I'd say a lot of Liverpool fans care an awful lot on who the money gets spent on as we wouldn't want a repeat of that again. It isn't that we want an awful lot of money spent, just that it is used wisely (well I'd at least hope that was the case anyway).

JFT 96

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Get over it.

Liverpool have been big spenders for many, many years, and that is why fans have financial expectations.

We've had our chance to win the league since the inception of the Premier league, but we have failed.

Now, we need to spend wisely and build for the future, but some of you are stuck in the past.

It annoys me when our fans criticise your Chelsea, City etc for buying a squad, and for others to sneer when other clubs buy big, yet they forget to mention the tens of millions wasted at our club, over many decades.

We've had our fair share of buying success, so it's tough titties.

We have a god given right to win f**k all!

DaveyBootle

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So ed002, we're all really happy about Carroll, Downing etc?

Hounsred {Ed002's Note - The fans don't appear to be happy about any of the players - except of course Suarez who seems to take a disproportionately long holidays on a regular basis. How many games has he been banned for in teh past three years? What does he have hanging over his head for the future? Why does he keep making DF comments to teh press embarrassing teh club? Why did he spend last summer courting another club? But he of course is fine. And what about those who trashed Sturridge before he even arrived?}

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27 May 2013 18:29:59
I want players who won't to play for the Liverbird and the club. Not to see how big they can make there bank balance.

Mighty Reds.
Dude will you join a company for employment if they offer half of your current wages.
Get a grip. everyone needs money.

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Harry scouser (dude)

Silly me I forgot they would become bankrupt if they play for Liverpool.

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Have to agree with Ed002 on this one. I have no idea why Suarez is considered the messiah by many. Facts are he's been banned three times in a very short period for stupid actions (a record Joey Barton would be proud of), the team has actually performed better without him than with him, he hung out not-so-subtly at Juventus (but managed to increase his wages, so I guess that ploy worked), had a clause inserted into said new contract that allows discussions with other clubs, had a large part in a club legend being sacked as manager, as well as the diving, a few rather shady tackles, and several unhelpful interviews with the press.

Yet lads like Henderson who has done nothing wrong but many things right get constantly criticized. But Suarez scores goals (even if we lose the game) so it's all good. I really don't get it- he's a good player no doubt, but LFC will do just fine if he leaves and at least he'd be someone else's PR problem.

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I thrashed Sturridge before he arrived. I hold my hand up and call myself an person!

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Have to agree with the Ed on this one. I check up on most of the other club pages on this site and our page is by far the most cringiest to read. Some of the comments are actually upsetting and everyone just gets attacked for offering an opinion. The attacks on players are nonsensical and one week a guy is a hero, the next a villain. There are very few constructive criticisms and thoughts on this unlike on some other pages. I would also think that the Liverpool page would be by far the one that receives the most traffic ed? A lot of it is complete nonsense though. Some very fickle supporters on this.
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Many people saying that this season we won so many games without Suarez and therefore we don't really need him. how many of these wins were against teams in the top 10?

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Hey, I fully apologised for trashing Sturridge! Spent too long listening to my Chelsea mates

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27 May 2013 14:36:47
Like most people, I too was excited for next season based on how we finished this season and the players we supposedly been linked with (Eriksen, Papadopolous, Aldeweirald? etc) a week ago but now rumours are going on that Real Madrid, Bayern, Man City want Suarez that too at £40m, Reina off to Barcelona, Skrtel also considering leaving and now we are linked with buying Begovic which we need the Reina money maybe even more?, K Toure to bring in the experience?, Atsu for left wing who will head off to AFCON during January, Aspas from an already relegated side- Celta Vigo?. These are worrying rumours and not the material we need to push for top 4 and I am not keen for the upcoming season.

My worries maybe a little premature as the new season haven't even started yet and I hope there rumours are not true and our scouts look to Germany, Belgium, Netherlands etc for potential bargain deals, have the same momentum at the end of last season into the new one and have a fighting chance for CL qualification!

Indy Kevin

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You need to learn to take rumours with a pinch of salt

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According to the Liverpool Echo, this Aspas is an £8million player but if Celta Vigo go down he will cost £4million, the Echo is normally the best paper with regards transfers, so Kevin I would ignore the anonymous poster who told you to take rumours with a pinch of salt, your right to be worried.

What did Tom Werner once say? oh yes, we can compete for any top player in the world, or words to that effect, Aspas and Toure shows your a man of your word Tom. Yet people on here still try to tell us there doing a fantastic job. MUGS!

Waro

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We haven't signed these guys yet so how is he a mug? We have spent a lot of money he saved our club only mug around here is you

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If you're happy one week and upset the next because of a bunch of rumours, 90% of which have no truth in them, you should get a little perspective

Red Ollie

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To the anonymous poster who posted after me, I didn't call indyKevin a mug, I told him he was right to be worried. The MUGS comment was aimed at the likes of you. MUG!

Waro

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Got you and no worries, Waro but I am definitely worried of our transfer plans!

Indy Kevin

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27 May 2013 13:37:21
Suarez to real 50mil? Hope not
LFCRedStars

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27 May 2013 13:21:58
Afternoon eds was just wondering what's the latest on aspas have we shown any further interest? since I read of interest in him I've tried doing abit of research and from what I've read it seems like he'd be a really good fit and wouldn't cost too much also seems he has more about him the atsu from. porto. {Ed002's Note - Try the search function.}

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27 May 2013 13:15:50
Hi Eds, This is not a rumour but more of an "understanding the current landscape" as Liverpool get active for a new transfer window. What is the general perception regarding the club at present amongst European players, clubs and agents? Do people (i. e. players) consider Liverpool's form and league position over the past 3 years are as accurate reflection of where the club is likely to be for the next 5 - 10 years or is the perception that this is a blip and we are merely sorting our own house out and will be back in Top 4 on merit in the next couple of years? I just want to understand the difficulties that the current management is likely to face in attracting players this Summer, - if a player signs a 5 year deal, is he accepting that he will not be playing CL football for that time and therefore the standard of player (who will settle for such a scenario) we can attract is less than top drawer? It's a difficult question to answer as all players are different and all are ambitious but can "reality" match "ambition" at Liverpool for the foreseeable future?

I appreciate any feedback or insight you might be able to give. {Ed002's Note - Players really don't think about such matters in such a level of detail.}

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27 May 2013 12:18:26
Eds can you tell me if we have any or if ever any interest in the following midfielders?

Ander Herera.
Marco Van Ginkle.
A. Sanchez.


Cheers

Jonesred {Ed002's Note - Try the search function.}

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27 May 2013 12:57:50
Danny Wilson joins Hearts on a 3 year contract.

Good luck Danny.

Red Lee

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27 May 2013 12:02:01
Eds say Tottenham win the Europa next year and come forth will 5th place get champions league? {Ed001's Note - no.}

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Thought the new rule comes in 2014/15 season

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The new rule comes into effect in 2015/2016. However, in fitting with every other club competition, I would imagine that if the holder had received the qualification prize via their league, then the prize would defer to the second place

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27 May 2013 09:29:18
Eds do you know what the likely fee/price tag will be for Isco of Malaga?

Unsure if he has a release clause, Would Liverpool not look at even enquiring on Isco?

Jonesred {Ed001's Note - sorry no, not sure why everyone obsesses over prices.}

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Fee's are quite an important part of transfers Ed. This is a transfer rumours site you know. {Ed002's Note - But it is not simply the fees, and finances certainly confuse the fans.}

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Fans always look at transfer fees! Wages are what is the real killer. A transfer fee is an investment that you could sell on anyway!

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There's an article today saying that he wants to follow Pellegrini

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27 May 2013 11:53:07
Only football where we talk ov only 15 million like its nothing to spend on 1 player not a dig at any one just at football and the value ov money! Spending the most on players does not get success it's the value ov the product that u buy! Need to buy well! Ynwa lfc linc

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What is the point of replacing the letter 'f' with the letter 'v'?

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The 'f' and the 'v' keys are both within reach you know?

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Good point Linc, for what we paid for Carroll we could have got 3 Sturridge's and for what we paid for Aquilani we could have bought 2 Coutinho's and got change. I hope that the signings we make this summer have an instant impact like Sturridge & Coutinho to improve our top 4 push.
Scouse_Pride

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27 May 2013 11:51:40
LATEST PAPER TALK ON LFC:
-Newcastle and Sunderland will battle it out to sign Liverpool's 24-year-old midfielder Jay Spearing who is rated at around £3m.

-Liverpool are determined to fight off a £40m bid from Real Madrid for striker Luis Suarez.

-Meanwhile, the Reds are closing in on 24-year-old Reading defender Alex Pearce.

What r your thoughts?

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My thought's are to stop believing what you read from the 'morning paper talk' on the tv app

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That £40mil is an insult.

Crowman.

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Ma Julie

Don't believe all you read

Angel

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Thoughts are - if people can look at this web site - then can also read the paper websites and gossip coulmns.

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What are everyone's thoughts on Alex Pearce? Surely not the quality we should be looking at in my opinion?

Mark the Selby Red

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Suarez for 40 mil and Bale reported for 65. Someone must have switched those figures by mistake.

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27 May 2013 11:40:44
If for the transfers of Suarez and Reina to Real Madrid and Barcelona respectively, we had a player swap option +money, which SQUAD player would you choose edds?
( realisticly: no messi + ronaldo pls)

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Sanchez for Reina allday long and.

Higuian and Contrao for Suarez if I had to.

Jonesred

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Suarez = Modric and £25million.
Reina = £12-15million no players


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27 May 2013 12:55:26
Part of the suarez deal to real I'd choose ALONSO patr of the pepe deal I'd go for monster MASH we have never really replaced them JON96

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None - apart from the 2 you mention, the rest aren't worth what Luis is worth.

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For saurez I'd won't £30 mil plus benzema or higuian.

Reina I'd won't £9 - £10 mil plus tello.

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Although extremely unlikely as a swap, I think DiMaria would be an excellent addition to our wings. He's got great pace and passing ability. Besides scoring goals, he also has excellent movement both on and off the ball. Would be a great addition to our system imo and could see him linking up sublimely with coutinho/suarez/sturridge.

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I would go for tello and benzema

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Forgot to add tello+ 5mil and benzeme + atleat 10mil
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Reina I'd accept £8m + Tello
Suarez I'd accept Ozil, Alonso and £30m nothing less.

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I would rather take Khedira + cash for Suarez since we do need to shore up our defensive midfield
And also I would go for Sanchez for Reina + cash

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27 May 2013 21:51:02
Varane + £30m = suarez
Tello + £6m = Reina

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27 May 2013 11:40:26
Liverpool are believed to have tabled a bid for FC Porto winger Christian Atsu according to tv

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27 May 2013 11:20:48
I would be very happy with the signing of Toure. Great defender with great experience. Our younger defenders widom kelly Sama etc. will need guidance and experienced players aound to help them through games and will also learn a lot from him on the training ground. Maybe a bit like the Gary Mac signing under Houllier. Smart bit of business if we get him signed up for the next 2 years.

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Wrong side of 30, lack of game time over a 2 year period, isn't the best centre half anyway, and questionable reputation.

What little money were going to get from these owners shouldn't be frittered away on a over the hill ordinary centre half whos looking for one last big signing on fee. Remember the millions wasted on Sahin.

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"Very Happy"? Not really. A decent addition, yes.

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Usual negativity by waro

He is a title winner, 32 is peak age for a CB and whether u like it or not he is a better player than carragher has been for last 4 seasons so yes it is an improvement

He captaine both city and arsenal and was part of the invincibles. He deffinately good enough for us andknows the PL inside out

Id rather toure for free transfer than williams for 12

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So would I AP, because Williams is s**t, but that wasn't what the OP posted was it now, yet another post twisted to suit your own preferance.

Toure in my opinion would be a waste of money for the reasons I have already posted, that's my opinion but you choose to call it negative, I would suggest yours is the usual Liverpool can do no wrong opinion and not positivity.

Waro

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27 May 2013 11:18:07
Afternoon Eds,

Hearing talk of Benzema + Di Maria and £10m for Luis Suárez.
Any truth in this?

Regards,
WonderKid {Ed019's Note - I doubt it}

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I have my fair share of run ins with th Ed's on this site, but I really do have sympathy for you with posts like this one and the countless " Ed's will we sign this player, Ed's will we sign that player ", why can't you all just use your common sense.

Not a malicious pop at you Wonderkid because maybe you are just a kid ( and apologys if you are, ) just use your common sense mate, we can't afford their wages, they're at the biggest club in world football so why would they come to us, and the complexitys of putting any deal like this together in the first place make it nigh on impossible.

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Di Maria + £25m

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27 May 2013 11:05:57
Real have just signed Casemiro for 6 million Euros. that's a bargain for the Brazilian DM.
Anyway Eds, Do we have any interest in James McCarthy?
Would be an excellent buy to replace Shelvey at the right price. Can play CM/CAM/DM. Very we balanced player, has a good engine and great at tackling too.

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Madrid bought Casemiro in January. And yh, in my opinion it's a bargain.

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27 May 2013 10:47:16
It is so obvious at the moment that we are weak on crosses, Agger and god love him Carragher were both not the best in the air and I think at times that put pressure on us. I feel teams will be able to manipulate this next season if we don't strengthen. I know Coates is big but the lad just hasn't played enough games to develop since he signed and we should have loaned him out last season to get match fit.

Although Kolo Toure would be a good squad signing is he the right sort of player we need?

Kev the Red

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27 May 2013 10:38:02
My thoughts:

We will not spend more than 15 million pounds on any player this window. We will snap up some bargain buys between 3 - 12 million.

I hope I am proved to be wrong.

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Why spend a fortune when you can buy a bargain?
A. Moran

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We have spend 15m+ on at least 1 player in the last 6 windows with 25m to spend plus players sales Carroll 15m skrtle 12m+ shelvey 7m I'm pretty sure we can afford to buy a 15m+ player and I'm sure it's going to be eriksen

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27 May 2013 10:36:47
Anyone else think that essien would be a good addition? 1 year left on his contract, could get him relatively cheap.

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Essien's been crap for a few years now. No thanks.

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In former times, yes. He was a top, top player. However, he has suffered badly with injuries in recent years and I think that he would probably be too much of a risk. I imagine that his wages would be very high too. Shame, as I've always liked him.

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No, he is a bag

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27 May 2013 13:25:48
He can play at fullback if we needed him to.

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Nope. He was a beast at his prime, but Chelsea very effectively replaced him with Ramires.

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27 May 2013 10:28:59
Danny Wilson has been sold to Hearts today.
Bullard Red

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Was his contract up or did we make a bit of profit from him?

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Wilson will be going for free as his contract has expired

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Contract expired
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He is out of contract so the only profit LFC make is not having to pay him any more wages!
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27 May 2013 10:08:46
Daniel Levy must be this sites biggest fan because Spurs always bid for the players we are interested in

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How did you know?
I thought that I was subtle.
Daniel Levy

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27 May 2013 08:14:52
Have any eds heard of bill toualuma? Promising lad! Looks set for a French club {Ed001's Note - Tuiloma? The Kiwi right back who had trials in the US and was meant to be set for Basel a while ago? I only remember him because he played for a team called Birkenhead United, and so the article stuck in my mind.}

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I live in Birkenhead, NZ. I probably know the lad. that's just crazy {Ed001's Note - it has to be better than Birkenhead over here!}

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27 May 2013 09:43:37
I've been told by numerous sources last week that FSG are going to fully back Brendan Rodgers in the transfer windows this summer. rumour has it that there's £70 Million in transfer funds available plus sales from players.

Can Mecca confirm this?

Cheers, {Ed019's Note - We don't have £70m to spend without sales}

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Is Mecca our source out in the Middle East then eds? You've kept that one quiet, little tinkers.
The Juicer

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Mecca are completely unaware of this. I'll let you know what Gala Bingo say when they get back to me.

Reginald

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If your looking for mecca look to the east, simples.

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27 May 2013 09:18:24
I am pretty much sure of leaving suarez now to real. They are sure going to bid for 40 mill + and probably he will be off.
Huge blow. we cannot attract a top quality predeator like him this window,
we need a striker who can create something from absolute nothing. and there ae only two ahead of suarez. Messi and Ronaldo.
Iniesta, ozil, di amria, won't hit 30 + goals and 10 assist a seaosn. no ways.

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Sturridge and Coutinho will be scoring the goals next season. Remember who told you all!
DM2013

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Why worry about something that hasn't happened yet? Yeah it would be a loss, but all indications from the club seem to be confident in him staying. Choose whatever story you think has more truth Harry, but I don't put too much stock personally in paper talk linking players every week to grab an audience's attention.

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27 May 2013 09:17:17
Why would we sell Suarez for £40 mil when we got £50 mil for a declining Torres. Suarez is at the top of his game it would take more then that for us to sell. But it's been said many times he isn't for sale. So Liverpool fans relax he isn't going anywhere.

As for pepe he will be going if Barcelona come in for him but then it would take a big offer for us to accept.

We will gladly sell downing, assaidi, Coates and a few other fringe players.

Get ready for the busiest summer ever.

Please post as all my fellow Liverpool fans are worried. don't be

Jamie. P YNWA

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27 May 2013 10:16:07
Release clause of 40 mill. and If real doesn't up their bid, finally if SUarez heads is turned to play for the best club in the world.

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I think we will need to pretty daft to sell Suarez for 40 million pounds.
Even if he pushes for a move we should hold out for atleast 50 million especially if its to Real Madrid. Its truely personic they are ready to pay 60+ million for Bale and think they can have Suarez for 40 million.

And the most realistic (at a stretch) targets to replace Suarez should be 2 of Mikhritiyan, Jackson Martinez and Rodrigo.

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The thing about Suarez mate is the amount of baggage that comes with him which will inevitably lower his value, let's be honest, if we could get or already had a replacement then I don't think any of us would bat an eyelid if he was sold. The guy is a pain in the arse for the club as well as opponents.

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Harry suarez doesn't have a release clause the clause is only to speak to clubs!

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27 May 2013 12:17:14
Pain for the club who has not Seen CL from 4 years running. get a grip mate. its his 30+goals will make us, owners and players happy when we reach Cl.

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Harry, once again you show ignorance. Suarez does NOT have a release clause of 40 million. There is a clause that allows him to talk to interested parties, not necessarily buy him, for some where close 35 million pounds.

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27 May 2013 18:36:34
The real AG.
Thanks mate. So If real put an offer of 35 mill and convince suarez to join them, we will have to sell him at 35 mill. I don think there will be bidding war with real and other clubs.
If higuain join juventus. they won't bid for suarez.
If lewondaski join bayern. they too won't bid.
that leaves real madrid alone {Ed002's Note - And the other clubs who have a declaed interest.}

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27 May 2013 19:14:52
Ed. Apart from Juve, Bayern and real, which other club has shown interest?
If things stands now as per the source, Juventus will have higuain, Bayern will have Lewondaski,
PSG or chelsea may have Ronaldo.
That leaves real with one striker.
they would buy both bale and suarez this summer. {Ed002's Note - Atletico Madrid, Manchester City for two.}

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27 May 2013 09:01:11
I reckon Liverpool will sign about 4/5 players which are:

Kolo Toure (FREE)
Christien Eriksen (16m)
Asmir Begovic (5m)
Kyriakos Papadopoulos (15m)
Maybe Tello on loan (LOAN)

Sold/loaned out:
Reina (8.5m)
Skrtel (13m)
Coates (LOAN)
Downing (7.5m)
Carroll (15m)
Assaidi (4m)
Wilson (1.3m)
Pacheco (4m)

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Kyriakos Papadopoulos will not be coming

Levans

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27 May 2013 10:53:55
Who on god's earth will pay 4m for pacheco? We'll be lucky to get 4 quid for him.

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Your pricing is off the mark mate
Bogovic for 5m? if he becomes available for as twice as that, we will be lucky.

wilson has 1 month left on his contract. why would hearts play a penny?

Pacheco a year left on his contract. now way he would cost 4m

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27 May 2013 11:03:10
Begovic 5 mill? I'm thinking 12 minimum

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Wilson will see out his contract (about a couple of months left) and then sign for Hearts on a 3 year deal. We won't see any revenue from him. I can only see us getting 1m maximum for Pacheco.

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27 May 2013 08:51:10
eds. is the Kolo Toure transfer true?
if so why does everybody keep going on about getting a young cb when we have martin kelly I know he has been play rb when played but he is a cb and at 23 its time for him to get a chance there. now that jamie carragher has retired it would be nice to have a local lad in his place. how many cb do we need and with Andre Wisdom there to for extra cover.
ed and now that barcelona have all but signed neymar do you think that will open the window for a bid for alexis sanchez maybe load to buy it works for every other club with our players?
cheers eds {Ed052's Note - we've talked a lot about Toure, what we know, and what we think will happen. We wont be signing Sanchez, nor any other Barcelona player}

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Not even tello

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27 May 2013 08:13:59
All this talk of Liverpool doing their business early? I can't see it happening due to players/agents waiting for the best deals - this poses big problems for us in that we can't offer good money or champions league - I think we are going to struggle to attract quality and will lose quality in Suarez - I'm gutted to write this but I think it's going to happen

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26 May 2013 18:13:04
Ahoy der Ed's. Is there any word on the Peruvian versatile defender, Carlos Zambrano?. We were linked to him a while back, everything's gone cold now.
Was there even any interest in him to start with?.
Before you say, Yes, I've tried the search function. :)
I understand these kinds of questions can be irritating. ^. ^ {Ed052's Note - nothing new about him}

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25 May 2013 12:57:45
Hey eds,
not a rumour as such, but do yous think that Liverpool have enough for top four next year, and do yous think we will be in a champions league spot this time next year? and do yous think that rodgers will be given another year if he fails to do so? Personally very happy with the job he has done so far, and I agree with the youth policy. There was a clear improvement between the start and end of the season. I hate when peand ople come on this website to talk about how bad allen/borini is, allen played as well as gerrard or any other player at the start of the year, and every player on the team was getting used to the new style, but just because he was new he was the one people picked on. Just because he doesn't score evry game doesn't mean he's bad, he's only 23 with loads of potential, needs a while to settle in. Same for borini, he's 22, has just been unlucky with injury, works very hard and the fact that he got on the italian squad that came second in the euros shows rodgers isn't the only person who sees potential in him. If you don't support the players go support other team. Do yous think we will just aim for centre backs, gaolkeepers and central midfielders in the summer? Thought our attack was very decent at the end of this season, but would still welcome another player, but at the same time there are a lot of good attacking players coming through. And eds, what has happened to young samed yesil? When we bought him, he was dubbed the new mario gomez, and looked like he would be a future star. Has he just been injured or just not ready for the step up? Was surprised that suso and sterling made the jump to first squad but he didnt, as he looked like a really good player
Thanks in advance
{Ed052's Note -
I do thinjk we will get top 4. We werentfar off this season, so witha few more signings will be very close.
If we dont get top 4, then depending how close we were will determine if Rodgers stays or not.
I think we will sign a GK, 2CBs, CM and one other.
Yesil has been injured (crucial ligament). He will he back for pre season}

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Ed, I would add a LB (Lucas Digne) to that incoming list too.

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Ed052 do you really believe top 4,
i know scousers are well known for there sense of humour, BUT you was asked a serious question!!! {Ed052's Note - yes, I seriously believe that we can get top 4}

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27 May 2013 07:10:24
{Ed004's Note - Including Net? Well by selling Rooney, Young, Nani, Anderson and Evra that's hopefully over 60 million raised. So Baines (12-15), Strootman/Bender (12) Fabregas (25) Di Maria (20) and then one of Sanchez, Isco, Lamela or at a push Bale. I'd happily offer 40 million for Reus as well as he is a very good player}

Man UTD Ed seems pretty clear about the targets and money. If they buy all of the above targets. then they could win another title next seaosn without even a manager

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Thats the same Manc ed that said Coutinho isn't as good as what the scousers say he is. a

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27 May 2013 09:43:54
Yeah, but the united ed is NOT in charge so who cares? I bet you're just a silly little troll, back to where you came from, keep telling yourself united is fine, maybe you can fool your brain into thinking its true!

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He also said both Rooney and RVP are better in the hole than Mata. Guys got red tinted glasses on fellas.

Melbourne CFC

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So barca buy fabregas for 35 and sell him for 25 since when do they loose money on player they would certainly get there money back isco will go to city and doubt they'd make a offer for reus and I taught some people made crazy theory's on this page haha

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Am I on the right page!

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Have to agree he/she is away with the fairies

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Melbourne CFC, the only hole that Rooney is better than Mata in are 80 year old granny's holes if you know what I mean.

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27 May 2013 03:59:56
I think Atsu at the age of 21 would be a decent buy for a few million. His signing would obviously be seen as a direct replacement for the never-present Assadi or the ever trying Downing. I think both will end up leaving this Summer.

Sterling and Ibe can't be expected to ruin defences week in and week out, not just yet anyway they need time and games. So I think it would be more about having the capable players to make the desired impact, in numbers more than anything else. We unfortunately can't buy top players who are in blazing form, we bought, I believe a top player in Coutinho and got him so cheap through Inter Milan's sheer neglect, so there are ways. We got Suarez in fortunate circumstances with his falling out with Ajax, their manager (De Boer) and the Dutch F. A at the same time Chelsea kindly decided too bestow £50 million on Torres but that was more circumstance than anything else.

But other than those timely treats here and there, we will have to build are own players up into the show stoppers, headline stealer's and match winners. Monaco could snatch Suarez away tomorrow, easily as well I believe. £50 million cash and offer Suarez £200,000 a week and it's over, bon voyage Monsignor Suarez. Maybe we could get a bidding war between City, Monaco and someone else. But that's the best scenario we're getting in that eventuality.

We are vulnerable to the big resource clubs which we are not one of, irrelevant of what Tom Warner said a year or two ago. We need to work the youngsters and tap their ability and potential and maximise the club within are given structure.

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27 May 2013 07:11:08
In simple terms. we are a mid table club.

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27 May 2013 09:48:01
Haha, midtable club yah! Are you sure you are not thinking of the bitters or norwich? Those are midtable clubs! Read the post or is that too much to ask before you spout rubbish BS!

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Not ''mid table'' Arsenal have the same problem and they consistently qualify for the Champions League as almost a priority to other objectives to the season. Even with selling their star players to bigger resourced clubs, from the days of Anelka to Fabergas and most recently RVP going to United.

Liverpool with it's history and fan base World wide will never be a ''mediocre'' club in terms of tradition, depth and size. But no club is impervious to hard times or bumpy roads and we've had a few of them in recent times.

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27 May 2013 03:19:21
Have dortmund signed De bruyne and bernard? {Ed002's Note - No.}

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27 May 2013 00:32:23
I really think voronin should be given another chance. he is a natural finisher, but was never utilised properly because of torres. I think we could get him for around the 20m mark eds? would be guaranteed top 4.
cheers

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How old is he?

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I that you Damien?

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What about Robbie Keane and Jovanovic? They were held back by Torres too. Get them back, the title is ours.

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What about Ian Rush or John Aldridge.

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27 May 2013 10:38:38
Iam glad you signed your name, now I know never to read your posts again, whar a ridicolous post, and if it was a joke its far from funny!
What a loon, just like this "harry scouser"

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Sean Dundee is only 47 maybe we could recapture his magic.

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Actually Sean Dundee would not play for BR after talking to Nuri Sahin!

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If we sell Suarez we could buy Heskey, Voronin, Jovanovic. We would probably get them for a cut price £40m in total

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27 May 2013 00:05:24
Everyone who's saying we should sell Shelvey were saying the same thing about Henderson a year ago and look how he's playing now. Jonjo's had a few poor games but he's a regular top performer in the England u-21s, I think it would be a mistake to sell him outright.

Red Ollie

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Shelvey doesn't have the work ethic of Henderson. In fact the more I think about it, the less similarities I can see between them. They are chalk & cheese m8.

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They're not similar players (apart from their position) but it's the principle of writing off young players which holds. Shelvey has more in common with Henderson - in that he's been played out of position and shown flashes of promise - than, say, Spearing, who was a regular starter in his favoured position who showed very little to suggest he might make it. Shelvey has good vision and an eye for goal, he's scored a few belters in the u21s and is the kind of player who can run games if he plays well

Red Ollie

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