Liverpool Banter Archive May 27 2017

 

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27 May 2017 22:21:16
If you missed it, new Liverpool Rumours Podcast - Benny Baller and Ed001 discuss the current LFC players.


LFC Podcast 1

Believable1 Unbelievable0

27 May 2017 21:42:46
I am starting to get a bad feeling already about this transfer window. Mendy looks nailed on to go to City and we don't seem to be moving as fast as some other clubs.

Why won't we pay the asking price for our top two targets and then it makes everything easier as the window goes on? Also If near the end of the window we have spent the budget getting our top targets on a left back (or 2), a midfielder, left wing then we might have to comprimise on some other areas like right back. I would be ok with Milner and Trent doing that job.

My feeling is we could easily miss out on all our top 5 targets if we don't put a marker down early. Is the club doing all they can to bring in the top targets or still waiting to see what happens in the market?

Believable1 Unbelievable15

27 May 2017 21:57:00
It's the 27th of May. The window technically isn't even open.

Calm down a little.


27 May 2017 22:11:43
Maybe we will pay the asking price but perhaps other clubs offer a larger wage package or the player simply doesn't want to move to us. We all love LFC, doesn't mean players do. Hopefully the players we have on our wanted list are players the club have already sourced a degree of interest from their agents.


27 May 2017 22:36:20
And who are our top 5 targets out of interest?
Calm down lad.


27 May 2017 22:37:48
Are you for real?


27 May 2017 22:52:06
Didnt stop city red lad.


28 May 2017 00:50:30
If u really think we can compete directly with city, united, Chelsea etc for players then you'll be disappointed lad.


28 May 2017 00:38:54
Hes got a point lads. Im all for waiting till this magical window opens where it doesn't acrually stop people signing anyone just having hem play for you.

I think it only applies to fans because if the window isn't open on fifa then you can't sign anyone.

Honestly liverpool could send 4 faxes tomorrow with the asking fees for our targets, have them fly over, take thier pictures, sign and go off on hpliday ready for pre season.

Why on earth it takes any time is beyond me.

Remember firmino. Ed01 like 2 oclock its going to take time 2:15 he's signed. (It wasnt what was said but it was a liverpool transfer on speed, redbull and crack)

Oh and tbe same as 'transfer bans' well they can sign players but can't have them play for them.

None of it matters. Liverpool could have all the signings done on monday, we know who we want. Get it done.


28 May 2017 08:12:55
Seems like some of you have forgotten previous seasons when we got in the champions league and then the following season finished 6th and had to start all over again.

Mendy going City
Sessegnon more likely to go to Spurs

Leaves Kieta, Brandt and Pereira as our primary targets my point is just go 100% to try and get your main one or two. While other clubs are looking around they may well come in for these players as there second choice.

It's going to be a very expensive window for most top clubs but it will be even more expensive if we finish 6th again.


28 May 2017 09:19:03
I still say Klopp will turn to Bertrand in the end. Mendy will either go to City or be priced out of a move completely by Monaco. Sessegnon (if he comes) will go back to Fulham on loan and Klopp just is not stupid enough to buy Robertson to be first choice LB.
Bertrand is a solid option imo. And do we not have a deal with Saints to buy at least one of their players every summer? If we break that deal, LFc scouts may be banished from St. Mary's altogether.


28 May 2017 11:42:36
I think we should write this transfer window off already.

Bonnkers 🤡.


27 May 2017 18:58:14
Any news on henderson eds?

Will he ever shake this injury? I remember carragher saying he had similar and had to wait for it to pop is that the case here aswell?

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{Ed001's Note - it is impossible to say for sure, the medical staff believe he will recover fully, but only time will tell.}

27 May 2017 19:33:33
Cheers Ed appreciate the reply, will he be back pre season do you know?


{Ed001's Note - he is expected to be, yes.}

27 May 2017 20:09:54
Many thanks.


{Ed001's Note - welcome.}

27 May 2017 20:09:59
Henderson said recently that this is the best he has felt in a while and that he should be ready for pre-season.


28 May 2017 04:30:48
You said they believe he will recover fully. That's a really good enough news for me.


27 May 2017 18:38:37
Question for the Eds, if Keita did come in, do we think we have space for him? I know Lucas and Stewart are leaving but those two are different styles of players to Keita from what I can tell.

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{Ed001's Note - of course we do.}

27 May 2017 19:06:02
Fair enough, I'm still not sure it's a priority position for us this window though. However if high quality players are available we should sign them.


27 May 2017 20:11:11
Henderson-Wijnaldum-Can-Lallana-Grujic-Keita

That looks like a very competent midfield to me.


27 May 2017 21:06:28
Yes but if klopp gets his left winger coutinho is likely to drop into midfield. And a lb means Milner too.
Hendo lallana can wiji Milner coutinho grugic and another make 7 for 3 spots.
My feeling is it will mean coutinho will be sold.


27 May 2017 21:14:37
Zero chance he's coming though.

Would of been good.


27 May 2017 22:57:56
Can't possibly fit them all in to starting eleven. but we need a much stronger squad than we currently have to cope with so many matches.
Strength in depth is key.


27 May 2017 23:54:37
So if Hendo starts, couts drops in and Keita starts where does that leave can, Lallana and gini?


28 May 2017 00:41:54
Seamless rotation without changing the intensity of the Performance.


27 May 2017 18:53:16
Liverpool Rumours Podcast - Benny Baller and Ed001 discuss the current LFC players.


LFC Podcast 1

Believable5 Unbelievable1

27 May 2017 19:50:44
Great podcast Benny and Ed002. Really appreciate you guys taking the time to do this stuff for all fans/ supporters on this site. The amount of work that gets put into this site is nothing but commendable.

Agree re Clyne. I know I am harping but if there is one player who does not contribute any positive outcome to our play then it is him.

There are many players who can run up and down the pitch but for heavens sake, you need some output!

Klopp, please bring us a proper right attacking fullback this summer along with one with a left peg!


27 May 2017 20:03:36
Sorry, meant Ed001:-O.


27 May 2017 20:12:12
As limited as Clyne is, we have other positions that need to fix first. I think we can persevere with Clyne for 1 more season. Too much change is not a good idea at this stage.


27 May 2017 20:40:06
Ha ha, look at our whole squad, I would be happy with Milner sticking at LB.

Clyne simply does not cut the mustard. Wake up.


27 May 2017 20:58:15
He's gives us a 6-7/ 10 40+ times per season. Has obvious instructions to cut in rather than go for the cross. Reasonably solid i defense- not the main reason we're shipping goals. Does some good attacking aswell, started the move for 1-0 v Boro for example.
Not the best RB I've ever seen, but good enough. Money should be spent elsewhere. Happy with him and Milner sharing the position for 17/ 18.


{Ed025's Note - your kidding yourself if you think clyne is good enough andy..

27 May 2017 22:27:12
Thanks max. Part two will be up tomorrow/ Monday. I apologise for any rustiness, how good was joke of the week thoUgh?!


28 May 2017 06:00:11
Ed01 i didn't know you were born in the 40s lol. Anyway another great edition and looking forward to the next intalment. Benny i did not get joke of the week at all, maybe I will listen to the whole pod again to see if i can work it out!


{Ed001's Note - it was just a bad joke mate, don't worry about it, better to just not get it, then you won't realise how bad it was.}

27 May 2017 21:19:30
Andy, I asked Ed025 if he would be willing to swap Clyne for Coleman and refused to answer the question :-)

Clyne means nothing to us being able to use his strength, his availability being fit, his pace if he cannot contribute a positive impact. It is like having a brand new Ferrari that is defective. Costs you a load of cash but does not perform.

The club wanted rid of Clyne last summer. Get rid of the sentiment and wake the hell up as we need a significant upgrade at RB. If not then TAA to replace Clyne to go to the bench end of the story :-)


{Ed025's Note - im with you all the way max..

28 May 2017 09:45:57
I see left back as the priority and move Milner over to right back and blood TAA Throughout the season. I think we could maybe get a decent price for Clyne,10-15m to a mid table prem team?


28 May 2017 10:02:30
Wouldn't mind Clyne and Milner sharing the RB position, as I said. You don't want to start the season with a 50% new defensive line. Takes time to get in sync.

Clyne is absolutely not a world beater, but that is not what I expect from a RB. And again: he has obvious instructions not to go for the cross, but to cut in and look for a short pass. Think this has been frustrating many of us, but it is what Klopp want.

Hate these so called "modern" fullbacks who give you 9/ 10 and a brace one week, 3/ 10 the next week costing two goals. Attack by all means, but learn how to be sound defensively first .

A fullback won't win silver for you, but might loose it for you. Moreno, EL-final last year for example.


27 May 2017 18:23:39
Evening eds

Don't know if this has been mentioned before but if we went for keita would he be seen as a replacement for Henderson?

Thanks.

Believable0 Unbelievable1

{Ed001's Note - no.}

27 May 2017 20:02:47
Two completely different players. If we did sign Keita then he is not going to be our midfield anchor man.

I really do hope Henderson and the club manage to find a solution as we are that much better on the pitch with Hendo then without.


27 May 2017 21:14:54
Not signing lads.


28 May 2017 06:01:48
How do you know that super, i am not one for predictions but i hold out a glimmer of hope that he will be the first one signed up.


27 May 2017 16:27:39
Spurs- Harry Kane
Chelsea- Costa
City- Aguero
Even everton -Lukaku
I think its blatantly obvious that we need an out and out striker up top someone who going to get us 20+ goals a season. Add that to the goals mane coutinho firmino etc are getting we will be in a good place. If klopp doesn't think that's sturridge then let him go and go get a quality forward. Hate to say it but don't think origi is the answer, hope he proves me wrong but don't think so. I no there are other areas that need addressing but got to score goals to win game at the end of the day.

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27 May 2017 16:47:49
We were top scorers in the league for the majority of the season. Scoring goals is not a problem. Especially if Firmino improves his finishing next season. Our problem is keeping the ball out of the net. Improvements in defending as a team is required.


27 May 2017 16:59:40
When we beat all of those teams this season why didn't they beat us? It's because our TEAM scored more goal than their 1 striker. If we had lukaku for example how many of the goals that we scored this season wouldn't we have scored? How many would coutinho, mane, firmino score if they were playing to set up a lukaku? As long as we score about as many goals as the top 4 clubs then it doesn't matter who scores them and guess what? We did. How many times was lukaku marked out of the game and Everton lose or draw? Wouldn't they prefer 5 players who are equally as likely to score? So if he has an off day the team lose. Main point adding 24 goal striker isn't adding 24 goals to our team it's adding 5/ 10 plus changing how we play. We can't simply add a player because you only play with 11. So you have to take out 1 of our attackers out to make room.


27 May 2017 17:00:56
Disagree, scoring goals was and is not a problem, we have many players that chip in with goals, Mane, Firmino and Coutinho all in double figures for the prem, the issue was using the right tactics to break down rigid defenses.

I can't understand this clamouring for an out and out striker, we would then need to focus play through him rather than the effective interchangeable front 3 we have been playing with.

The priority should be creating a solid defence and teaching fullbacks and wingers how to cross a ball.


27 May 2017 17:17:14
Interesting stat, if you took out all of lukaku's goals this season Everton would have still finished 7th.


27 May 2017 17:46:44
lukaku did not show up against top teams he was a flat track bully.


27 May 2017 19:13:17
What about January and febuary? When mane was away, couthino injured then off form, firmino totally missing, we need a striker and maybe if we'd had one our challenge wouldn't have ended in those months,


27 May 2017 19:48:12
I suppose out and out strikers never go through goal droughts then?

Besides we only failed to score in 1 game during that period. The problem was goals conceded.


27 May 2017 19:48:35
Our GD was significantly behind the norm for title challengers. We need to improve that and a 20+ goal scorer is one way we could do that. I think scoring more will be easier for Klopp than conceding less.


27 May 2017 20:12:07
Lukaku might be a flat track bully but judging by our results against the lesser teams we could do with one of those too.


27 May 2017 20:44:57
Lukaku is not going to fit in at Liverpool. We found that out with Benteke. Yes Lukaku puts in more effort but anyone who thinks we could do with Lukaku at some ridiculous fee are living in lal la land.

Sturridge alone, injury problems and all will provide more movement than just waiting for the ball to be delivered at his feet or head.


27 May 2017 21:09:45
1 striker get injured you lose all your goals. prefer goals for lots of sources.
Jan-feb showed we need another mane type.


27 May 2017 21:11:44
Our GD wasn't as good as others because we conceded too many not because we didn't score enough. A Kane, costa or Lukaku won't solve this. tightening up our defence is what solves this.


27 May 2017 21:16:43
But when firmino decided to have like 3 months off scpring that's wheb the defensive problems where highlighed because we weren't scoring.

We need a 20 goal striker and is absolutelty shocking to say we dont.

Aubamenyang up top and we easily get second for me.


27 May 2017 21:31:29
Supermane, Klopp does not rely on one player to get the job done. We are up there with highest scorers without an out and out striker.

So Klopp needs to sign one player to get us 20 goals when goals are coming from all over the squad?


27 May 2017 21:57:31
Second gives no no more than 3rd or 4th Supermane, . I'd love if Aubemayang was available but we don't just rely on one player scoring. That's a dangerous tactic. Also a goal scorer would have to be able to play our style we won't change to cater for one striker otherwise we may as well have kept hold of Benteke. If the right striker is available and we are after one then of course it helps if his return is 20+ a season.


27 May 2017 22:51:16
Welsh, that's entirely subjective, we scored less and conceded more than our rivals. If we just concede less that's unlikely to be enough, we should look to score more too.


27 May 2017 23:55:26
No, we don't Squizza or Puttney. Our team was the fourth highest scorers in the PL this season and top 3 in goals scored since Klopp took over so clearly, a top striker is NOT what we need as for the upteenth time, goals are not our issue as any of our first eleven can score goals even the CB's.

We nee to stop concedinng stupid goals as that would improve the GD already while all our front three can always improve heir finishing.

We have issues elsewhere at FB, CM and out wide. Let us stop fantasizing over other team's and their top strikers as NONE of them, can cope with the way Klopp wants his CF i. e Firmino, to play.


28 May 2017 00:52:00
No one has mentioned Origis so called awful season.

Hes got 11 goals this season.
He has played within himself for a lot of the time, holding uo the ball for others to cone into play.

Not bad for a 22 year OLD.


28 May 2017 05:58:23
Oh soo sorry guys.

Aubameyang signs and coutinho, firmino, lallana, mane, wij all stop scoring? Is that what use mean?

Firmino 11 this term?

You wouldn't swap him for 23 from auba?

No. Sure?

The point of a striker is to bail you out when the rest aren't scoring. So when the rest went off the boil, firmino couldn't bail us out because he's not a striker with that instinct. he's a wonderful player and one of my favorites but a striker nopes.

Also second wouldnr of been better? How sure are you of that. It would of put us on about 87 points, guarenteed champions le, and a lot closer to a premier win season than we currently are.

If we have any shot for auba then we have to go for it.

Just for a second consider.

Karius
Periera matip lovren Betrand
Hendo
Mane firmino wijnaldum coutinho
Aubamayang

Migs, milner, gomez, can, lallana, brandt, origi

And for teams where going to hammer, you could swap wij for brandt/ lallana and put cou in the middle with one of them on the left.

Probably wouldn't want that though would you lads.


{Ed001's Note - actually you do usually find that a team which has one top scorer gets less from its other players.}

28 May 2017 06:06:39
One of the great things about this team is that it is not reliant on one person to score goals. There are 4 or 5 genuine goal threats on the pitch at any one time and more often than not they put the ball in the back of the net. That is not a priority and with ings coming back we have options along with studge and origi who i agree gets a bad rep dromq the fans but was only 4 goals shy of our top scorer.


28 May 2017 06:40:39
But say auba scored 25 then that's 13 more than firmino which means lallana wouldn't need any goals and you could knock a few off the otbers as he would of made up the difference.

But

How many chances did firmino squander and the rest still scored hatfuls. Do you not think having auba in those positions would of got us some more points.

Firminos everything but a natural finisher for me. Brilliant player.

Where only really talking auba at this moment in time but its like 30 each year the past 2 seasons. Jesus how can you not say we would be better off for that and would of had a higher finish this year aswel.

Kane scored 29 and ali got 19.

The midfield can still be productive!


{Ed001's Note - look it doesn't work like that. If Firmino is replaced by Aubameyang then you lose the pressing which created most of the chances. So no I just think you are dreaming. There are numerous instances of a title-winning side replacing a good striker, who works and creates for the team but doesn't score hatfuls, with a striker who scores hatfuls but does little else for his team and they have become a worse team. Firmino is central to our team, you can't just drop him for a top striker and think that is going to make things better. Life is not that simple.}

28 May 2017 09:19:11
There's fine tuning to be done that's for sure, we'll need to score a few more and concede a few less to challenge for the title.

I reckon Firmino in games which are open and the high press is most effective and an efficient goal scorer against more compact teams.


28 May 2017 10:52:50
Firminio is integral to our style of play. Probably first name on Klopps team sheet when fit.


27 May 2017 14:40:17
Probably in dreamland but a part of me hopes we get Pereira, Van Dijk, Mendy, Keita, Brandt and Aubameyang this summer. Perhaps John Henry will find a couple of hundred million in his sofa, best hope of that is if Bill Gates comes round for tea or the equivalent of that in America.

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27 May 2017 14:57:42
City seem serious about getting Mendy. You can cross him off the list. Aubameyang off to PSG and VVD will not be joining as per Ed002. Brandt, periera, Keita, Sessegnon, senior LB (Bertrand maybe) most likely to join.
Have a feeling Sturridge will be given one more opportunity to prove his fitness next season. If those issues persist, Klopp may dip into the January market for a striker.


27 May 2017 15:17:36
Ed002 has said on the City page that Bernat or Grimaldo are Pep's first choice LBs, not Mendy. I'd love to see Mendy at Liverpool but he'd be supremely expensive.


27 May 2017 17:34:25
Indian Buzzer is probably right - I'd personally be happy with those signings - a CB would also be great but EDs saying this isn't going to happen. It's baffling after the woeful season we've had in defence and how poor lovren and klavan have been that we're not considering a new CB. If we want to really be in the mix next season then surely a solid partner for Matip is needed.


27 May 2017 20:17:14
Ed002 didn't say that VVD is not joining; he said he is not aware of LFC looking to bringing in a CB.

It really is confusing that the Liverpool following journalists keep saying that Keita and VVD are LFC's first choice. I like these players and I think they will significantly improve the first team, but we have all seen this type of information leak in the media from the club (Sanchez, Ramirez, Dempsey, Chilwell etc) .

And when these transfers don't work out, there will be an obvious backlash from the fans, particularly if we lose a key player this summer. Like I said before, this aspect of leaking stuff to the media for short term fan appreciation from the club is just ridiculous.


27 May 2017 23:48:28
There's no probably to it. Can people just stop with the VVD rumors?


27 May 2017 14:35:12
After Bernardo Silva's move to City, Sterling's future at the Etihad must surely be in doubt. He's likely to take up the Navas utility player role and with City struggling to fit all their attackers in one team I wouldn't be surprised to see him struggle for game-time this season unless he is stuck at right back; Jesus, Aguero, Bernardo Silva and Sane are all superior players to him and are surely ahead of him in the pecking order.

Some may mention the word 'karma' but I would mention the words 'poor decision', 'greed' and 'bad agent'. Sterling hasn't blown his career but what looked like a career destined for the top of the game when he was a key player for us at 20 now looks likely to fizzle out at the good player level. That is without taking into account the very real possibility of Pep usually him as a makeshift right back which would stunt him even more. I don't feel sorry for him neither am I celebrating what has become of his career but what I am doing is shrugging my shoulders and thinking to myself you made your bed now lie in it, not because he left Liverpool but because of the reasons he left us for, in life and also in football, you live and die by your decisions. I also hope that this serves as a warning to other talented youngsters who have their eyes on the money rather than maximizing their potential, Rodwell, Shaw, Wilshere, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Walcott, Wright-Phillips and potentially Barkley are other names that come to mind who have and could fail to maximize their potential.

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27 May 2017 14:54:24
It may have been a poor decision but who knows how he would have gotten on if he'd stayed? Truth is he always struggled with scoring, he just doesn't strike the ball consistently well enough IMO and panics a bit in the box. Citeh paid up thinking he'd develop that side but he hasn't.


27 May 2017 23:56:18
Sterling still struggles in front of goal and that part has not changed even with better players around him. I believe that had he gotten rid of that agent of his and had Klopp as manager, he would have been better than he is right now but then again, would we have gone after Mane? Go figure.


28 May 2017 00:56:58
Yep his final pass is often the wrong option.

I think he is struggling with confidence az he is now a big mobey buy on top wages and expected to deliver

Easier said than done.


27 May 2017 14:25:26
Hello mates, first time poster. long time reader. like every day reader.
cheers to our team for qualifying to play in the league of champions. cheers to the Eds for their continous efforts towards the management of this lovely platform. also honorable mentions to Ron, macca (in absentia) and a couple others whose ID I can't recollect.

I am of the general view that we need a few more quality additions as it's going to be a very long summer with LB, RB, LW, ST, backup DF our major priorities. We have been touted to sign, VVD, KEITA (of whom lots of my mates having seen play but believe is a world beater), SALAH, LACAZZETE, MENDY, BRANDT with most of them having 50m+ pounds as price tag. Even with the increase in TV revenue I don't see us spending such crazy amount of money on 3-4 players (150-200m) also considering Klopp's spending history. I think we are in for a very big surprise this summer. I trust klopp to get the best of his buys. fingers crossed. happy children's day. lol.

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{Ed001's Note - thanks htm, nice to meet you.}

27 May 2017 13:46:56
Any news or predictions for both Ejaria and Ojo.

Both looked good and promising earlier in the season. CM and LW are two positions we're looking and linked with, but these guys cover those areas.

Do they have LFC futures, is signing Keita just a couple of years older, going to blunt Ejarias prospects. I'm not solely thinking of the 2 or then 6 CL games but the season as a whole.

Believable0 Unbelievable0

27 May 2017 14:18:24
Loans look most likely, in the short term at least.


27 May 2017 14:27:23
Ejaria still has time to mature - see it being at least a couple of years before he's a potential regular, so I don't think he'll be hurt by any incomings.

Ojo I had high hopes for but the injury really hurt his development, again I think a 1yr loan, preferably at Huddersfield would be great for him. He's go a tougher route to the first team IMO with Woodburn and Wilson to compete with in the attacking positions.


27 May 2017 14:36:28
Loans for both, perhaps not Ejaria if we end up failing to buy Keita. Ojo especially needs one, his development appears to be stagnating.


27 May 2017 12:11:10
This whole Bernardo Silva signing has had some talk around it. It is pretty obvious the guy is coming in to replace Jesus Navas, but ultimately that means he will be starting ahead of Sterling on that right wing, and his chances will be reduced further.

Which brings me to my real point. I cannot help but feel sorry for Sterling. I was a very strong critic of his, as I always felt he got over hyped and over rated way too soon. His finishing and end product was poor, and in wide areas I felt he was too predictable. In fact I even did a pretty extensive article to argue his best position was as an attacking midfielder, like where he had such a successful spell in our 13/ 14 title run.

So why do I feel sorry for him? Because despite his deficiencies he was still incredibly talented and had the POTENTIAL to be world class. That ship has now sailed in my opinion, but he is still a very good player. Pep seems to have made him less predictable as a winger. Instead of always cutting inside he seems genuinely content on going around the outside just as often now which makes him much harder to get the better of. But ultimately, he has not improved as rapidly as City hoped he would, and that is by and large, their fault. He has never been a regular for longer than couple of months, so he has never even had the chance to vastly improve.

I feel sorry for him, because he was a young man, who at just 20 years old had an Oil Baron wave money in his face (enough to secure his family for generations, which if you know anything about his childhood, was always going to be too tempting) and he had that evil and selfish bloke Ward whispering in his ear trying to get himself the best deal with no regards for Sterling. He had the chance at Liverpool to become an icon. "The next John Barnes" was a phrase regularly heard. Now he just looks like the next Shaun Wright Phillips at Man City! A talented young man seduced by the opportunity to be fast tracked to the top earner bracket, who is now seeing his career pay the price.

When he left I felt anger. Now I just feel disappointed. I watched almost every game he played for our club right through the academy years to when he left. So to see a career I was at one point so invested in, totally ruined by the ugly financial side of our beautiful game, is very disheartening.

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27 May 2017 12:28:31
Good post MK.


27 May 2017 12:36:51
Excellent post mk, but is that not the case with most young English players for the last decade? As soon as they show potential they're built up in the media and fans alike as the next great thing and peak far too soon or more likely, fail to push on to the next step. And the step after that. I'd be interested to hear of a starlet who's actually reached his potential in recent years?


27 May 2017 12:48:40
he's made his bed.


{Ed001's Note - that's an improvement then, he never made it when he was at Liverpool....}

27 May 2017 12:59:54
We all have choices in life. Sterling made his. Noone kidnapped him or blackmailed him into a move. He was coerced by greed and ego and he hasn't lived up to the hype. A smarter lad would have kept his feet on the ground and his ego in check.
Im sure he went to Man City for trophies and high wages so you could say he succeeded.


27 May 2017 13:14:50
Dangerous player but no end product. Take his pace away and he is average. That is not world class, the term gets used far to often in my opinion.


27 May 2017 13:27:02
Sorry my ass, his hippocampus was developed enough to not treat the club and his career the way he did. It was not the oil barons fault he has not put the effort in to develop his game. He was cosseted (mid season trip to the beach while his team soldiered on) then treats the club that developed him to merely potential like dirt. Not angry with him but certainly not sorry for him, i made plenty mistakes in my life im still living with do you all feel sorry for me too? 😁.


27 May 2017 13:01:47
LOL Ed, Quality reply.


27 May 2017 13:15:21
I thought you rated Sterling Ed001. Never saw what the fuss was coz his shooting and crossing has always been poor. It was only his pace that carried a genuine threat to the opposition.


{Ed001's Note - no end product.}

27 May 2017 13:40:07
Sterling can't be held accountable for other people/ fans expectations, not that i can remember too many calling him the next John Barnes, nor do i think he Shaun Wright Phillips. He is a descent player with no control over his value as a player. Yes he may have been a bit of a brat at Lfc and have a less than desirable agent looking afer him but you have to remember that Liverpool were doing nothing in the League, why wouldn't you want to go to a club with potentially more chance of winning trophies and playing at the very top of the game? I think some might be writing his obituary a little too soon.


27 May 2017 13:43:08
The lad's getting paid bucket loads to do something he loves at one of the world's top clubs. Most people would sell their soul to be in his position. He's had a great opportunity at City and, while he hasn't exactly excelled, he hasn't been a complete flop either. Also, he's still only 22 years old! He probably still has a fantastic career ahead of him. I think you're writing him off too soon. I don't resent him for what he did. As you say, he had the money waved in his face before he was mature enough to handle it properly, but there is absolutely no reason to feel sorry for Sterling at all.


27 May 2017 14:02:47
The question is where does Sterling go if Pep phases him out? City will want to recoup what they paid for him and I don't see any BPL side willing to pay that sort of dosh for him plus his huge wages. Maybe a move to China or PSG beckons. Will be an interesting next couple of years for Sterling for sure.


27 May 2017 14:10:40
Being rich and being happy are not as exclusively linked as some people think.


27 May 2017 14:13:19
I seem to remember him saying when he moved that he sees himself here for the rest of his career shame pep doesn't hahahaha loved him at Liverpool showed his real colours in the end was astonished that we got 50 million for him means couts if sold goes for 250 million 5 times the player five times the price right!?


27 May 2017 14:58:48
If Aidy Ward keeps whispering in Sterling's ears, the lad is bound to end up in China at some point. Shame as the potential is clearly there.


27 May 2017 22:59:33
He chose to listen to his agent.
It's his decision, he's an adult, he's a multi-millionaire.

Sympathy? Nope.


27 May 2017 23:48:20
I don't have any feeling about it other than you make your bed and you lie in it. If his reward is the bench then tough. It's what he wanted. His career, his choice. New Shaun Wright Phillips.


27 May 2017 23:52:43
He wasnt led astray.

He didn't want to play under Rodgers who was taking the credit for the the lads development.
The club had given Rodgers a new contract and I'd say that and the promise of big bucks tipped the balance.
There was aways an insecurity about Rodgers that at every opportunity he talked himself up big.
In all truth I think Rodgers wasnt ready for a club of Liverpools size and stature.

And I also think that if Klopp or Kenny were managers at that time the lad would have stayed.

But he wasn't led astray. He signed the contract. Its a shame as he has talent and speed.

Pep would need to be careful as well.
If he thinks he can replace a full spine of a team in one go and hope to win the prem. I think he is misguided.


27 May 2017 23:57:00
Not to put any shade on your post, MK but I literally have no opinion on Sterling or on any other player who has left LFC. Players come, play and go and that is the way it works now so not too bothered about what they do at their new clubs as that does not impact me in any way. As for Sterling, he has made his decision and should be fine living with it as he got what he wanted and we have actually gotten better as a team without him and that is all that should matter to us fans. If he was here right now, he wouldn't start ahead of Mane or Couts on either side so for me, LFC is better without him and i'm cool with that.


27 May 2017 08:47:47
Would anyone take Suarez back?

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27 May 2017 09:21:11
No, we're better than that.


27 May 2017 09:28:26
In a heartbeat.


27 May 2017 09:50:45
No brainer. I would put up with all sorts of shenanigans to have his drive and amazing ability back. I've been watching Liverpool since 1976 and no player has made me say "you're freaking kidding me" as much as Suarez.


27 May 2017 09:55:43
as a player yes . as a person no.


27 May 2017 10:11:20
Whatever happened off the pitch he always seemed to give his all once he put his boots on. Teammates seemed to get on with him - I don't think he was difficult in the dressing room.
The insurmountable problem is the way he treated the club, especially after the support the club gave him.


27 May 2017 10:25:28
Just move on and put that energy in pining for a turd into backing those that deserve it.


27 May 2017 10:38:59
He ain't coming back. Suarez was an incredible player for us but we have to move on people.


27 May 2017 10:53:16
Hell no.


27 May 2017 13:25:57
My partner and I always have this debate whenever we watch Barca, she says yes, I say no. As Liverpool supporters we get enough stick as it is, without Luis sticking the boot in. If he had played for Utd we would all detest him, and not because he'd be scoring goals against us, but because on the pitch he is detestable. We overlooked that because he is a sensational player. I just wish his time with us had been different. He gave us many great memories, but also some times to forget, including what happened to Kenny. King Kenny is more of a legend than Suarez will ever be.


27 May 2017 13:26:34
Ron, totally agree. Never look back. Goodbye, good luck. Good riddance!


27 May 2017 13:31:12
New generation putting a turd above a legend of the club that supported him who he shat on and the fans themselves with his antics to generate a move away from the club. I will get plenty of disagress but i have some integrity so i guess that's the price u pay.


27 May 2017 13:44:46
Top player, who also comes across as quite a nice bloke, liked by his team mates. He obviously has, or at leasy had a few "issues" but if Liverpool are ever to get back to the very top then he is the type of talent on the field we need.


27 May 2017 23:03:31
Some say he gave his all on the pitch.
Let's not forget he was suspended for long periods due to racism and biting opponents.
Whether you think he was guilty or not, he served suspensions because of his behaviour on the pitch. That is not giving your all, you can't give your all when you're suspended.
Klopp's trying to build a team. If you base your whole team around 1 star player then you will suffer when they're injured or suspended or off form. We have to move on from Suarez and build a proper team.


27 May 2017 23:58:09
Nope (even tho I have his shirt in my closet) . He did a lot of damage to our club, KK and brand and that cannot be wiped away that easily. We've moved on and so as he so let's leave it at that, please.


27 May 2017 02:25:48
I've been silent for a long while bc after i started my company i have so little time that i can just read you. I really thank you for all the time you invest in us, and i'm proud we are one if not the most active page, that means our great involvement with the club.

I'm just here to say i think we are in the right direction With Kloppo. I love him and his aura around thee club. I used to idolize him, but since he arrived LFC i've seen much of his weaknesses. He might not be the best recruiter or tactician (specially in defense), but i'm sure he and FSG will bring us back to the elite. I respect all of our players, but i'll be objective with them.

I am excited about this summer, i hope we can buy right (no matter if marquee or not) .
For me, if we can get Keita, Pereira, Mendy and Brandt, I think we will have a competitive team in all competences; My only complain is why aren't we looking for Douglas Costa if that seems exactly what we need, in spite of Brandt interest. The same for Lacazzete if Sturridge were to go. I know English teams will overpay, but we have to be careful with finances; we don´t want to get the wrong players with huge pricetag and high wages again, leaving us in midtable.

Love Lucas and his loyalty, if he is to go, i wish him the best and i'm grateful to him. For the others leaving i wish them luck and i hope they can achieve their personal goals. For players here and the ones to come i hope they give their 100% and i wish they LFC will become part of their life and heart.

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27 May 2017 05:34:10
If Sturridge goes, then a striker has to come in. Fullbacks aside, its one area that I would spend money on freely if need be. Would free up Firmino to drop deeper and dictate the tempo and actually have someone up front who can find the back of the net with ease (something that Firmino struggles with) .
50 million each on Keita and VVD looks a bit baffling to me. There are cheaper yet better CBs out there and midfield is not exactly a priority right now. Rather spend 60 million on Aubameyang who is one of the best goalscorers in Europe right now, and sign Brandt to play LW. Two attacking minded fullbacks will provide the necessary width so another out and out winger like Mane is not necessary for all games.


27 May 2017 09:40:52
Good luck with the business - it's a hard road but a rewarding one if it works out.
I think that JK is looking for players who will not only improve the 1st 11 but also buy into the work ethic and team culture.


27 May 2017 11:47:57
Can you name these 'cheaper better' centre backs? Because I'm struggling. Certainly not the likes of Keane or Maguire.


27 May 2017 14:05:20
Cheaper centre backs? Nastasic? Tah? Gibson? Gimenez?
All quality players and will cost less than VDV who can be a bit of a headless chicken (not a trait u want in your CB)


28 May 2017 00:26:41
Spot on, Indian. There are cheaper and better CB's than VVD out there and you just mentioned a few of them even tho Tah, is still raw. We do not need a prototypical CF as Klopp really does not play with one and if he does, he'd better be able to do all the things Firmino can otherwise, he will be useless to us. As for Naby, he ain't no 50m pound player and I doubt we will spend that on him cos again, we can get better for cheaper. Our main issue is out wide at FB and wide forward and that is where we need to strengthen the first 11.


28 May 2017 11:49:15
Got to have a leftback. Prefer a left sider singer/ striker to join the party too.


26 May 2017 22:10:10
I say we have a countdown till the release of season two of the podcast. Saturday night or Sunday night guys.

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27 May 2017 10:07:01
Sunday, more time to spare for it.


26 May 2017 21:55:36
ED001, do you know what the plan is for Ejaria next season?

I've been watching the lad in the U20 World Cup tournament (The match against South Korea, mainly) and he looks like he has some serious ability. Ejaria was head and shoulders better than his team mates and made everything looks so easy. Clearly he is too good to be playing for the U20's, it is not even a challenge.

Hopefully he stays and gets his chances in cup competitions. I don't know what Klopp thinks of him, although I think Klopp was keen on giving him time in the first team before his injury. Not sure though, might be someone else.

Anyway, hope you have a great day and I am looking forward to the day that you and Benny can sit down and provide us with another podcast :D Whether about this season, transfers in and out. doesn't matter, you two are quality.

All the best.

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{Ed001's Note - Ejaria was very much a favourite of Klopp's before his injury, he will get chances next season. There is no plan made for him yet though. Personally I think he will end up on a loan, as a good performance in a tournament like this attracts attention.

We should be doing the podcast this morning, if we can get over the technical issues. The last Skype update has outdated all the software for recording, so we are having to look for a way round it.}

27 May 2017 11:37:24
I have really high hopes for him, like you say he looks so natural on the ball and doesn't seem fazed by pressure at all. Hopefully he can get the experience he needs to push on.


 
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