Liverpool Banter Archive November 27 2016

27 Nov 2016 23:32:40
Do you think we will dip into market ed to cover Couts and mane?

{Ed002's Note - Done to death,}

27 Nov 2016 23:51:18
Yes we will sign a player to cover Mane who will be gone a month max. Along with another signing to cover an injured player. No need for Origi, Sturridge etc. Where has common sense gone.

28 Nov 2016 01:31:07
Might as well sign Gérard on pay as u play contract.

28 Nov 2016 01:35:10
It'd be pure stupidity to bring anybody else in during their absense, what happens once they're back? we have 1/ 2 players doing bugger all. When we half talent in the youth ranks it's pointless.

28 Nov 2016 03:09:34
If we where to do that we might as well just sign someone on loan or bring markovic back if that's even possible. I wouldn't buy anyone in January to cover anyone, only area where we are a tad weak is midfield but I would leave that untill the summer.

28 Nov 2016 06:26:37
We have some promising youth players who must be chomping at the bit for a chance - why don't we give them a shot?

28 Nov 2016 07:56:30
I'd sign Messi. That should cover Couts until he's back 😉.

28 Nov 2016 08:25:22
Yeah pips good point mate. But just incase we should also get neymar, incase Messi get's injured for a week.

28 Nov 2016 09:02:40
Never thought of that 16. Don't worry I'm sure Klopp's got all the wheels in motion. In fact I've just spotted Messi and Neymar having a full English at Bill's Cafe in Walton.

28 Nov 2016 09:56:18
lol a 'source' of mine tells me they're going to end up at Melwood after their brekky. It's all good now, we're covered.

28 Nov 2016 12:23:33
Phew! I was starting to worry!

28 Nov 2016 13:30:22
As of right now, no one is needed, period.

28 Nov 2016 14:57:57
Yeah. Wilson, Ejaria and Woodburn!

27 Nov 2016 09:36:05
2nd in the premiership 3rd in the pl2 and 3rd in the u18s what time to be a Liverpool fan.

27 Nov 2016 11:13:26
Sorry accidentally hit disagree!

26 Nov 2016 17:06:28
Match review ed?

{Ed001's Note - a frustrating game for most of it, we were very slack on the ball, leading to the breakdown of moves, never looking quite at the races, though still dominating completely. Sunderland not just parked the bus, they attempted to kick us out of our stride at every moment. They had no intention of trying to win that game, just to kick us into submission.

Then Klopp's frustration with the crowd saw him gee them up and get them behind the team, and it lifted the performance. The rest was, as they say, history. That was all that was needed. The crowd getting in behind them.

Disappointing to see both Couts and Firmino taken off injured. Not a surprise that they eventually got taken off though, as they were being kicked at every turn, it was bound to lead to knocks. To be fair to Origi though, he was excellent and totally bullied their backline.

Nice to see Woodburn get a run out as well, though he needed a bit more time to get into the game properly.

Karius - never really had any real involvement in the game, apart from smothering one breakthrough for them. Had a few times on the ball and was mostly accurate with his delivery, which is a bonus.

Clyne - this is the kind of game that he becomes a weakness, as his delivery and passing are just not good enough. There were a number of times he got into good areas but failed to put a decent ball in.

Matip - like Karius, he had very little to do, Defoe spent most of the game trying to be in Lovren's areas, on the rare occasions he was in our half, and so Matip ended up mostly playing in midfield. His passing was mostly good and he had about as good a game as possible.

Lovren - apart from one error, he was excellent. Like Matip, he was able to spend most of the game in their half playing in midfield. Had one stonking shot that went wide and got on the end of a couple of set pieces. He was also the man who kept them all quiet for the game, with his interceptions and shepherding. At times he seemed like the only player truly up for it.

Milner - he has really grown into the left back role now, providing a constant threat down our left, though his inability to ping it in first time on the run with his left foot on a consistent basis is a weakness. Other than that, he had a good game and put away the penalty to kill the game off.

Wijnaldum - a mixed game, he is everywhere, gets involved in everything, but sometimes it just does not come off for him.

Henderson - another one who had a mixed game. He was also everywhere, involved in everything, but there was so little room to play passes through that he was finding it difficult to create, like Wijnaldum. He did do a lot to make sure that they never got the chance to build anything, constantly seeing off danger.

Can - he struggled a bit in the first half to make an impression on the game, but gradually grew into it. In the second half he was much more effective and able to be an influence going forward.

Mane - not his best day, though he gave their defence kittens all day long, his final ball was awful. He did create space for others and their defenders could not cope with him, but he needs to improve his shooting, crossing and passing. Just an off day hopefully.

Firmino - as usual, excellent, ran his socks off, created chances, dragged their defenders everywhere and was kicked all over the pitch until we eventually had to take him off injured. Needed a goal though.

Coutinho - was looking dangerous, so they kicked him, kicked him and kicked him some more. They were pulling shirts, pushing him, and doing everything they could to stop him. Then he broke into the box, despite being fouled, leaving him off balance, which led to a block tackle (a clean challenge but caused by the foul outside the box) and an injury after just half an hour. Shame, as they clearly could not cope with him by legal means.

Subs:

Origi - came on early for the injured Coutinho and was excellent. He showed power, pace, skill and was a real thorn in their side. When they were trying to bully him, they were coming off second best, as he battered them with his strength, holding them off easily. He is a really special talent and fully deserved his goal.

Lucas - came on late for the injured Firmino but had little time to affect the match.

Woodburn - only on for the dying seconds of the match, barely had time to do anything, but he did get involved with a tackle.}

27 Nov 2016 08:55:57
Hi Ed. Do you not think in in games like that it would be better to rest Clyne and play TAA or even 3 at the back?

{Ed001's Note - no, you don't change a winning team until there are signs it has been worked out. We are dominating, there is no need to change things.}

27 Nov 2016 09:15:02
Like the confident reply! I agree but, like you, get a bit frustrated with Clyne's delivery at times! (Although he is playing quite well) . Also I enjoy our strength in depth and would want more game time for some. But I agree a winning team should remain as it sends a clear message to the team: keep winning and you keep your place! Come on you reds. I'm enjoying the ride!

27 Nov 2016 12:32:00
Karius also put the ball out for a corner from a goal kick and matip the same with a back pass which were the pair of thems only real mistake. Wijnaldum and Hendo first half and for most of the second were the reason for the crowds frustrations both of them would get the ball in 5/ 10 yards of space (mainly when deep) and rather that running forward they stand still and pass backwards? They were slowing us down far more and far deeper than lallana ever did. Mane had an off day and like ed says we were far too slow and ponderous on the ball.

27 Nov 2016 13:17:31
Ed001, if Firmino, Coutinho, Lallana and Sturridge are still missing, who would you start up top for the next game?

{Ed001's Note - Origi.}

27 Nov 2016 14:13:55
i thought wiji had a pretty good game, thought he was really neat in possession, i agree he could and should and i believe he will start to have more influence.

27 Nov 2016 14:42:27
thanks ed1 mate.

27 Nov 2016 15:06:45
Even though I hope Firmino and Lallana are playing next weekend, I think it's time to give young Brannagan his shot (I'm assuming Coutinho and Sturridge will be out) .

27 Nov 2016 03:22:56
Coutinho out, DS out. Originally in and I will expect Gruljic to come in at this stage. So origi up front, supported by Mane, Grujic/ Lallana, Firmino. Can and Hendo to hold midfield. Back 4 same.

27 Nov 2016 07:20:03
Wijnaldum?

28 Nov 2016 03:26:35
Nah mate give pretty much all the first team a rest, play our second string side, it's good enough and has first team quality players in it. Even if we are to lose if gives some of the youngsters a chance and prevents further damning injuries. This is where our fitness will get tested to the max and if we continue how we are results might well be affected.

I would play mignolet, Alexander Arnold, Lucas, Klavan, Moreno, Stewart, grujic, can or brannagan (not sure what has happened to brannagan but I would like to see him start), origi up top supported by mane and ejaria Woodburn.

27 Nov 2016 01:24:48
what is our defence playing at keeping back to back clean sheets? . home form is going to be vital to us so as far as i'm concerned this was a deserved and welcome victory.

28 Nov 2016 13:37:03
We have one of the best defences in the PL as of right now but the media and the haters will never mention that.

27 Nov 2016 00:01:13
It looks like A bit of a break away at the top Of The league at the moment, got to say I think it's great news for us, 20% more points than Spurs, third Of The season already done.
Just hope the little magician can come back before Mane goes away.

27 Nov 2016 00:37:17
I agree, it's looking like the current top 4 will be there come may with Utd and Spurs battling for 5th and 6th. They are both good sides but don't have the fire power of the teams above them. I fancy us to do it this season we are completely dominant every game these days and something just feels right with the manager, players and fans right now.

28 Nov 2016 13:40:34
Both teams simply lack goals, period. and that will be their undoing. I do commend Spurs for showing up Chelsea`s vaunted 3-4-3 system in the first half as Conte got found out and Spurs should already have been 2-3 up before Pedro`s great goal. Many teams will see that first half and know that system has been found out.