Liverpool Banter Archive September 27 2011
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27 Sep 2011 22:57:08
Dear Eds,
Heard that Liverpool are scouting Leandro Damiao? Is there any real chance that he would join us in January?
-Melwood Janitor {Ed002's Note - I suspect it is very much speculation right now.}
Isnt he very similar to chicharito? A proper goal poacher? Wud be gr8 signing plus some article said he is good friends with our lucas.
Indian Buzzer
27 Sep 2011 22:41:50
Well it didn't take long for Man City to copitulate, I thought they'd at least last to Christmas...
What do I know?!
dmedly
27 Sep 2011 22:40:02
Haven't heard much from Sir Alex tonight. Could it be that his team is not as good as he thought it was?
Maybe he's trying to work out if its because they're a one man team or because they haven't got the defence he thought they had
Jones is great on the ball (for a defender) but shakey in defence. Just the sort of player the media orgasm over when he's actually a weak link in the team xD
Red Ollie
27 Sep 2011 21:24:14
hi eds haven't been on for a while since the transfer window was open.missed seeing this great site.i was just wondering how you you feel about the season so far.i personally am quite happy (apart from the loss to totenham bad day at the office) thanks {Ed001's Note - personally I am very happy to see a definite improvement in results this season. The Spurs game was poor, but I expect that to be a one off and to keep the player's feet on the ground.}
27 Sep 2011 22:33:16
a question to the eds please as you know in mancity's game in champs lge tonight tevez has refused to come on the pitch and play, is that allowed to happen and as manager what should be done ? thanks
hibsylfc {Ed002's Note - They can fine him a maximum of two weeks wages. In theory they could cancel his contract - in practice he may well still end up being traded to Real Madrid.}
Are City interested in Di Maria Ed, as part of the trade, thanks.
Blair Mayne YNWA {Ed001's Note - they certainly have been considering that exact trade.}
Madrid would be crazy to take him as would any european club.
KOPFIEND 1978 YNWA
I think Tevez should go to Liverpool as a punishment.
My prediction - Tevez will never play for City again and will be sold to Corinthians in January. City will look for a marquee signing to soften the blow and will sign Neymar
27 Sep 2011 22:27:53
I think that FSG are doing right by taking there time on the stadium. They after be sure 100 percent of there decision and its nice that they have not shouted there mouths off like the two cowboys that have gone.
They have backed King Kenny in the transfer market so lets just be patient and wait for the decision.
Mighty reds
27 Sep 2011 22:05:06
Ed everyone mostly ask you about players but what about to young mangers who in my eyes soon may go on for bigger things.
Paul lambart at norwich and martinez at wigan.
In my humble opinion better mangers then bruce n alex.m and will go on for better things.
What you think?
Red indian
---------------------------------------------------
If I was to select the next Liverpool manager, my order would be:
Steve Clarke.
Poyet.
Klopp.
Holloway.
Lambert.
Martinez
Rodgers
(And don't forget Ancelotti is out of job)
Well, who needs em, while the KING is here?! :)
Jack D.
Id hate to see any of the above managing LFC. Hopefully Kenny will be around until Carra gets his coaching badges and has enough experience to take over. Holloway at Anfield?
Rodolfo borell (spelling) from the reserves quality coach
27 Sep 2011 22:00:51
Ha great night city given a lesson by bayern and utd throwing a 2-0 lead and escaping with a 3-3 draw to the mighty basel in there really hard champs group.. on tonights perfomance better hope they avoid the likes of bayern,inter,ac milan,real,barcelona and many other of the so called europe elite.. I have a feeling tonight may have just found them out at the back lol....
Great night.....
Carlos79
27 Sep 2011 21:57:51
Just want to say, WELCOME to the Champions League City. Win it if you can! (Don't think that'll happen in thousand years)
Oh and yes, we've won it FIVE times!
Jack D.
I think they have a better chance than united ...
Interesting that Joe Hart cant catch a ball , then blames everyone around him.
Roy
As a liverpool and huge football fan i have to say i wasn't shocked. before the game i took a good hard look at both 1st elevens' and i actually would've picked bayern munich's over man city's. they have quietly assembled a 'massive' team and will be this year's dark horses in my opinion.
s.p
Bayern dark horses? They beat Man U in CL 2years ago. Last year was a bad season for them. They are dominating the Bundesliga......
I agree. Robben and Ribery are top players. Muller, Neuer, Gomez, Schweinsteiger and Lahm are pretty fantastic as well. They've still got a weak central defence but if the rest of them play to their potential they'll win the thing
Red Ollie
27 Sep 2011 20:47:53
Ed hav not been on the site in awhile.Just wanted to no what u thought what was going happen are we moveing or staying at anfield I'm hearing all sorts storys what do you think.CASTOR TROY {Ed002's Note - It is still in hand - at a guess I was say a coat of paint for Anfield remains the most likely solution.}
27 Sep 2011 21:22:30
Great to see Scott Chipperfield, a Liverpool fan as a boy, giving utd a shock tonight. Let's hope they can hold on for the last 10. Nice to see utd being found out
I lost 20Euro for man u. but not unhappy :)
I always knew you lot were part of a circus.
27 Sep 2011 21:21:59
Ed's fellow posters - 5 midfielders for the bitters?
Jimbob
27 Sep 2011 20:31:00
whats the latest news on the Stadium,there must be some rumours going around Anfield? we know about the extention granted by the council but is this due to FSG in talks with Companys over naming rights? {Ed002's Note - It is I assmue because no decision has been reached.}
FSG not a Fast decision maker. We are in Confuse hand again ?
27 Sep 2011 20:26:36
Just watching LFCtv today, then got thinking. ok so its been a long time since we won the big one but we were never closer than when Roy Evans and the spice boys era.
i have read many autobiographies and many state the same as i feel, Parry and the owners made the biggest mistake in our clubs history and that for me was undermining Roy by bringing in Houllier. Roy felt as did some of the players at the time that we were short of 2 or 3 players, they were players at the back, but the board would not back him. he had earmarked a few players at the time which would have in my eyes helped us build and continue adding to the success.
we should have backed him that time, the board claimed poverty and then brought in the french man, then they released the funds. he went on to waste alot of money on the likes of song, kirkland, diouf, diao and others who were the next viera or henry.
anyway i just feel if they backed Roy with half the cash we would have still been winning the big one.
we were let down by the appointment of souness then the appointment of houllier by Parry.
Surely there is a job for Roy back at the club, he still shows knowledge and class everytime he reports on any form of Liverpool football from the kids right through to the first team.
Bring Back Roy
Sweetcorn
Best thing from Roy Is Gerrard and Owen
Roy was too nice and lost the respect of the dressing room. A good man but not a long-term manager unfortunately
I think Roy is involved in the club (ie working for LFC) not sure which role though.. ED001 should have the answer.
Roy {Ed001's Note - as far as I am aware, his involvement with the club is limited to commentating on games these days unfortunately. Shame, because he is an excellent coach.}
27 Sep 2011 20:06:31
G.A.G.U.S - to be fair to Blair I do not believe he was suggesting that City are a bigger club than United but that they are the new big spenders who can pay the highest wages and transfer fees.
How do I feel about it? To be honest I hate it - theirs and Chelsea's success is artificial as it has been bought by their masters who treat their club as play thing. I hate Utd as much as the next Liverpool fan but I respect your history as like Liverpool the club has been built over many years - some of the greatest names in football have played for these clubs - not mercenaries who have come for the highest wages they could get.
JRG
27 Sep 2011 19:50:42
jus been reading you guys talking about rich owners, which rich owners spent 100s millions on arsenal for them to win the league and go unbeaten?? i think you will find it was tactical genius aswell as world class scouting from arsene wenger who i have to say is a great manager, this is an example for evey club that really is what you buy and not how much you spend. RedTurk
RedTurk - Remember that when Wenger took over at Arsenal they had arguably one of the greatest back five in the game at the time. Wenger made some very astute buys such as Petit, Anelka, Henry and Viera but it his inability to replace any members of that back five that have resulted in them not winning anything for 6-years.
JRG
True but for only so long, see the situation arsenal is in now because they would not invest in top players. 3 of their best players left because they felt that they needed to move on to win.
fabregas, clichy and nasri (their core).
so the best thing is to do a mixture of the 2; spend money to get your sqaud sorted and invest in the scouting & youth system, to minimise having to break the bank in order to build your team up from scratch in the future. while also replacing your world class players with world class players.
£100m Did we use that much oh yah we did but £70 come in from sale Dont forget that
£70? thats how much you should have paid out.
So the best thing is to do a mixture of the 2; spend money to get your sqaud sorted and invest in the scouting & youth system, to minimise having to break the bank in order to build your team up from scratch in the future. while also replacing your world class players with world class players.
===========================
This is so true , and I hate to say this but united have done this balance of buy and develop very well in the last 10 or so years.
Roy
27 Sep 2011 19:45:19
Hi guys/gals/mouse ,I dont know if your post was ment to put the cat amongst the pigeons ,if it was it certainley accomplished that.calling liverpool a small club is just silly,I like to use the term awakening giant,what small teams where watched by 80 thousand fans in malaysian and turkey in preseason,what small team has 40/50 thousand waiting for season tickets,you might well be a fan of 30years( me 66yrs,)but to me Liverpool have never and never will be a small club, there has been times i have not agreed with the performance of the management/players/ and in return have been called negative.for the last year or so I guess you must have been in a coma (sorry) you will be pleased to know we have great new owners a new stadium to be built 100 millon spent on players,talking about player what is it you said about signings you were delighted with the squad and for us not to knock hendo/adam/as we cant expect anything better, kind of a contradiction in terms isnt it,mouse are differances are simple I believe we where great are great and will always be great,and Im sure lots of others feel the same.(godin)
27 Sep 2011 19:29:15
I've a few questions to ask the Manc supporters slipping in and out of our banter page.
Do you live in Manchester (or Salford)?
Have you or do you ever intend to visit the ground?
As a Utd supporter, would you really be proud to say that Mick Hucknall was one of your fellow fans?
Have you ever watched football?
Do you eat prawn sandwiches?
Are you envious of the LFC's European success?
If the answer is yes or no to any of these questions then you truly are an inbred bi-lingual glory hunting skid mark who should fook off and visit your own slimey banter page.
youcantkidakidda
You do realize the reason united fans come on here is cos of blair, lfc redeyed hector and ozone... they are always on their site, so don't moan when they come here, we have ourselves (well those 4) to blame
Hang on mate but sum people cnt affoard to travel down to anfield or trafford mate everyone wants to taste the atmosphere luckily iv been a few times to anfield and every time they in the north east im at every match
jayblair89
Well said kidda
It was aimed at Utd fans lad, calm down.
youcantkidakidda
27 Sep 2011 19:27:48
There's only been 1post all day on the chealsea banter page , no wonder there all on here , how deluded some people our . K96 .
We cant have a go at other people when some of us are doing it. same goes to them.
27 Sep 2011 18:49:58
wats up ed just a question how much did we get for pacheco thanks great site btw
irish scouse {Ed002's Note - Nothing - he is on loan.}
Well....he is on loan on loan....
27 Sep 2011 17:59:56
I was on the United site today and I saw a post from lfc saying Citeh are now the big cheese in Manchester. What I must ask is, what is it that makes them a bigger club than United? Do you really respect what they are doing?
As much as I hate to admit it, teams like United, Liverpool and Barcelona made their success, and didn't need a sugar daddy to win. Now you see teams like Chelsea and Citeh inflating prices and paying 220 thousand a week to mercenaries. That's why I can never understand why Real Madrid are so respected. They are the original sugar daddies, spending on the likes of Puskas and Di Stefano for success.
LFC, let me ask you this; If Everton were bought by an Arab tomorrow, and did exactly what Citeh did, would you say they are now the big cheese on Merseyside? Somehow I doubt it.
G.A.G.U.S
Well it will take them a long time to be the biggest club but you have to agree that they are going to be a massive club.
with the funds they have its hard not to see it any other way.
king henry
G.A.G.U.S
Also, the self proclamed "best supporters" haven't realised yet that City are another huge obstacle for Liverpool to gain a top 4 spot, and ultimately to become a serious threat to win the league. They are so wrapped up with jealousy of United, they stupidly celebrate City's emergence.
The self proclaimed "best supporters" are as slow as their central defenders!
Sir Alex x
As mucch as i hate to agree with you mate i do iv neva liked the likes of chelsea winning the leauge apart from letting yous get upto scratch and i do use the lines of city been the bigger club but like you said if everton got bought u wud have a lil dig at wer the smaller club on the mersey
jayblair89
Jayblair89
Of course I would have a dig at you, but in all seriousness, clubs like Citeh and Chelski will never be respected for their success.
G.A.G.U.S
Sir Alex are you really that dumb to think that LFC fans are jealous of man utd because you won a 19th title your pathetic you need to pull your head out your arse and smell reality were only interested in our own 19th title and G.A.G.U.S i think its because City have billions at their disposal and are not afraid to pay the extra 10-20 million on a player and give them ridiculous wages to out do their opposition plus they have already done pretty well since they bought some quality so i think due to their finances and the quality of their new players people expect big things from them and they also reckon that they will give united one hell of a fight
MJ
As much as I hate to admit it, you are right. United are a bigger club than Citeh but who has the most power? who's got the all-star squad?
Not saying there a better team but they will challenge.
These rules should of come out in 2003 when chelsea were bought out.
TIZER RED
I think to be fair to City and Everton, they are clubs that have deep roots and great heartfelt support in the local communities, and both have long histories, even if those histories are not as rich in success as Liverpool's has been, and as Utd's still is.
Liverpool and Utd did not need an oil billionaire- they have built a world wide fan base and a huge international profile, and this was done the hard way back in the 80s and 90s, with inspirational management and fantastic support from fans.
This sounds ridiculous, but in accepting the almost obscene wealth of a billionaire who can simply go out and buy the most expensive players in the world at the drop of a hat, regardless of how the players feel about the club itself, I think that City have actually lost some of the integrity and the values that have set them and Everton apart from so many clubs in the last few decades.
City have become everything that they despised about their richer neighbours for so many years, and they have done it willingly.
I don't begrudge them success based on sheer buying power, but I do resent the hypocrisy of jumping to enter the elite clubs list with Middle Eastern finance, after publicly bemoaning that the likes of LFC and Utd had 'bought' their success, and were mercenaries etc.
Yes, we would all prefer it if City had managed their way to success like Shankly and Ferguson, instead of buying their way to trophies, but after so long in the wilderness it seems unfair to begrudge them their time in the sun. Let them enjoy their period of success, but let them also beware as its may not have the longevity of LFC and Utd.
Because teams that have a global profile like Utd and LFC will always be able to generate more income, and thus afford better players, once the financial fair play rules come fully into force, or the oil magnates become bored with their toy.
Although LFC and Utd didn't buy our way to success, it could be argued that success has led to a greater fan base, and a grater income-generating capacity- so in a way, our initial success has been keeping us financially ahead of less rich clubs.
Unless City can do the same thing, and find a way of generating income as a self-sustaining business like LFC and Utd, they will eventually run out of money for huge signings. The current squad will age and deteriorate, and within 5 years or so City will once again be unable to match the buying power and the attraction of richer clubs, and will sink back into the mid-table of the premiership, being grateful for players like Crouch instead of buying the likes of Aguero, Silva, and Balotelli.
I wouldn't want to wish failure on any club (except perhaps a little on Utd! lol), but the fact is that without the long term income generation of LFC and Utd, City's time in the sun must inevitably end.
AC
FAO Sir Alex x
I, in no way at all, celebrate man citeh and what they are doing. As much as it pains me to say it, I respect what united 'have done' (but still wouldn't wee on them if they was on fire). I have, and will never have, any respect for your noisy neighbours and how they are going about their business.
I hate pretty much all of Manchester really... Haha
Regards
Myk
Slur alex x and they will be a major obstacle for the top spot.
we are not contenders just yet maybe a few years but top 4 for us is i believe in our reach.
were not thick we do know it will be tough but we are up for the fight.
at least G.A.G.U.S will have a bit of banter with us you just resort to name calling and insults.
king henry
Put it like this. Utd, City or Chelsea to win the league? Anyone but a Manchester club to be honest _ think they're all inbred c***s with no identity. I will defend UTD and say that City are in dream land though. A long, long way off. I drove to Manchester the other day and saw a large sign put up by the marketing team of Manchester welcoming people. What did it say? you ready? It read 'this is Manchester!! Haha. Talk about clutching at straws. Livepool HAS an identity - it's not manufactured it is real - and the Liverpool supporters follow suit, unlike our Manchester rivals and it's city of green eyed monsters.
youcantkidakidda
G.A.G.U.S. ,
yes gagus i would feel a bit pis..d off if everton got taken over like city, but at present i can only say what i see , and the fact is city will become no-1 in manchester, theres no joking or leg pulling on my part when i say it , one of my close mates is chelski , me and him have near came to falling out over the footie , but theres two ways to look at it city and chelski fans from years back have been supporting them in bad times when they went down a division , in a way its good for them to have a bit of success , but your right utd ,aresnal ,lpool , are old school and have done more off their own bat, but its the way life is , you could be the best worker in your firm , but someone not as good gets promoted over you, you just get on with it , theres only one real big thing that annoys fans the most i think and that is watching say a player that is on big money not putting everything into the 90mins , now that gets to me more.........lfc
United were paying 28 mill for players 11 years ago, so i guess they didnt buy their success did they, what a complete doughnut you are
Why does sir alex leave a kiss after his name
redman
Gagus i respect yh mate and probarly the only manc i do who comes on ere banters is banter and with the biggest clash of the season cumming up which one u looking more forward to liverpool or the week after citeh?
jayblair89
Got to agree with you there G.A.G.U.S unfortunately there are teams out there like City, Chelsea etc. and as much as we hate each other, they will NEVER be a true "top club".
maka
I hate everything city stand for I don't like the concept of money buying glory and it is epitomised today by tevez not wanting to come on the pitch to play , farcical, and i am a pool fan down to the core, but I know what you mean gagus.hibsylfc
Jayblair89
Probably the Liverpool game, because I want to shut Redeyedhector's mouth.
G.A.G.U.S
27 Sep 2011 17:19:11
Ok, first we had some mad mancs on our page irking us.
Now we have chelsea folks (most of whom probably would've been 'fans' for less than 10yrs).
Is our page really THAT appealing? Or are theirs that boring? Haha
On a different note, I think our strongest midfield lineup is- kuyt, gerrard, lucas, downing.
Can't quite figure out why kenny keeps choosing hendo over dirk. Jordan may 1 day become a v gd player but imo kuyt offers a lot more to the team for now.
But I trust kenny even if I don't understand what he does because his heart bleeds liverpool.
Long may the king reign.
Singapore Red
Hendo needs minutes dont forget this is an experimental season ie new players to bed,better now than next season when all's well then he'd never get a game so game time is a must wether you like it or not,it's a future building exorcise or leave them to rot situation,buy into that or support the philosophy of instant success like chelsea or city but realise we dont have the doe so think on.
aintree dave.
27 Sep 2011 17:13:23
Reina - one of the top 5 keepers in the league
Agger - one of the top 5 defenders in the league
Lucas - one of the top 5 defensive mids in the league
Gerrard - one of the top 5 attacking mids in the league
Suarez - one of the top 5 strikers in the league
People are talking about the form of Henderson, Adam and Carroll as if we are reliant on those players. But when you look at the core of the team, you realise that they just complement 5 of the best players in the league. Adam is 25, Carroll is 22 and Henderson 21. They are not the core of the team. Maybe in a long time they could be, but right now they are there to support the team's core, which is as strong as any in the league
Red Ollie
Come on ,shouldnt we be reliant on all the players who pull on the red jersey,what happens if a couple of the others have a off day.(godin)
Completely agree ollie.But i feel adam has all ready done a decent job i'm sick of people saying he is a championship player because he played for blackpool.Carroll is getting there i think and henderson still has plenty of time.
come on you reds we can beat everton i'm sure of it but it will still be a tough game
This is because everton also have loyal supporters like are selves.as a liverpool fan i will say this but they are a great club.unlike man utd who when are losing don't want to know about them.i'm sure most over liverpool fans agree
Agree mate, plus
Carroll the best header in the league
Downing one of the best crosses in the league
Our team will compete with any team in the league sooner rather than later.
YNWA
TIZER RED
The original post is a bit hopeful isnt it.
reina agree
gerrard agree
suarez agree
agger not even close to top 5. vidic terry king jones samba cahill ferdinand dawson jagielka kompany. top 10
lucas isnt in the top 5. parker sandro essien de jong huddlestone.
GMN
Lucas is better than huddlestone , sandro and just as good as de jong
@GMN - Lucas is one of the best defensive midfielders BY FAR. Parker isn't a defensive midfielder and do you honestly think Huddlestone is better? His shots maybe, but his tackling is not better than Lucas.
RenegadeRed
Agger is a better ball playing centre back than any of those mentioned, that's why he is in the top 5, samba, really? give m a break and jones? let see over time shall we!
To the first anon. lucas is arguably better than huddleston but he is not as gd as sandro and no where near de jong.
to renegadered. parker sits in front of the back 4 covers when the full backs attack breaks down the opponents play and plays balls forward from the back. that is pretty much the job description for defensive mid.
finally anon 2. i hope your joking. agger is not close to the 10 i listed. he is pretty gd but he doesnt have any competition at liverpool. his right foot is poor his aerial ability is atrocious for a cb and doesnt command at the back like all gd defenders should.
GMN
Out of all the "Premiership!" defenders mentioned Agger is the only one who would get a game for Barcelona. Seriously!
Barca wouldn't touch any of the others.
kidmillions
Agree about Reina, Gerrard and Suarez but not Lucas and Agger.
Defensive mids;
Parker, Essien, Yaya Toure, Fellaini, Barry. I would rather them 5 before Lucas
Centre Backs
Vidic, Ferdinand, Terry, Kompany, Jagielka, Cahill, Dawson, Alex, Vermallon. Agger is up there but he not top 5
Agree on the rest though
YNWA J96
27 Sep 2011 16:41:08
Guys, what's the past like to live in? Is the weather good?
Now that's what I call banter - take a bow son. Did you think of that all by yourself? And you weren't even proud enough to sign-off : (
JRG
Haha.. It's all right weather I suppose, but we've had a bit better weather than you have on the continent..!
Myk
27 Sep 2011 16:33:32
I was wondering why so many posts from Man U/Chelsea fans, a quick look at their banter sites reveals there are only about 3 posts a day.
You can almost sense the tumbleweed rolling across the page
Jhoover
Funny that because lfc and Blair have been writing on Uniteds page all day.
And btw this post doesnt count....its not signed.
Morgan7
To be fair your crowd have been on here alot lately.
king henry
The truth is, scousers don't have a life, so they have plenty of time to post on a football forum.
G.A.G.U.S
Can you see the irony in that last post?
Says the person posting on a football forum?
how strange lol.
always a red
Orrrr.... We just have fans with intelligence that like to talk football with other fans. Hmmmm....
McSnuggles
Pray tell me about your wonderful life,be truthful and lets compare,a scouser,(godin)
27 Sep 2011 16:32:48
2 - Have an outstanding crop of youngsters to develop into a world class team. (Do you have any on the same level as Josh Mcrechran, Romelu Lakaku or Juan Mata? My honest opinion is i don't think you do.)
Mmm my dear Morgan, who in your bunch of youngsters has a Copa America medal and Best Young Player of the Tournament award? Which of your young players has captained an international youth side? Which of your young players have been praised and rated highly by his international manager?
Keith YNWA
If you think Coates is anyway near as good as any of the Chelsea youngsters you are mistaken. Copa America medal? Mata has a world cup medal ffs
Until you name the players you are talking about i can not take you seriously Keith.
Morgan7
You claim 'an outstanding crop( i think it was crop,,) of youngsters. But as ever you paid a small fortune for two of those you mentioned. Implication is that you are growing talent you are not. As ever ..Buying it..
rugbyred
Coates played almost ever game in the Copa America while Mata played one game in the World cup for the last 20 minutes of a game that they were already 2-0 up and comfortable. Also Mata is at least 2 and a half years older than Coates and has had a lot more time at a top level of play. Now I'm not saying anything against Mata I think he is a great player. I'm just saying to compare the two based on the fact that one won the world cup that he really didn't play in is unfair and really makes no sense.
We have the funds to buy the talent. In a match you don't get awarded a goal extra for having a homegrown player play, so whether we buy our youngsters or produce them i really do not care as long as we keep winning, which we do. Ask any football fan what position they would prefer to be in, Chelsea or Arsenal? I think we all know the answer would be Chelsea.
The point i was getting across in my post below is that people think Chelsea will struggle when the FFP kicks in, but we won't more than anyone else, as we have planned for it. Its a fact that teams will only be able to adjust there squads a little here and there after it kicks in, which means the better the team going into it the more chance you have of being successful. And in my opinion Liverpool do not have a strong enough squad or set of players to survive after it kicks in whereas Chelsea do.
Where is your Mcrechran, Lukaku, Mata, Romeu, Courtouis, Sturridge, Ramires? These players are established players who have a very bright future, make no bones about it. The only one here who isnt involved in the first team alot is Mcrechran and IMO hes the brightest of the lot.
Morgan7 {Ed001's Note - it's McEachran, and he is hardly established.}
@Chelsea fans, you've brought this up at least twice on this page today, when in reality you have no good youngsters coming through outside of McEachern it seems (and yes, I can spell your players names correctly, shame you cannot), but I'm not too boned up on your youth setup (or lack thereof). On the bright side - at least you aren't the once decent City academy. Haha. But really...
Kelly, Flanagan, Robinson, Coates, Sterling, Suso, Silva (maybe), Morgan, Wisdom, Coady...
The oldest out of that group is 20, unless Kelly turned 21 recently...
McSnuggles
Hey chelskis, We have two players in our academy setup who r better than all the teenagers u have bought put together. I suggest u watch RAHEEM STERLING and JESUS SUSO FERNANDEZ on youtube. Future ballon d or winners.
Indian Buzzer
27 Sep 2011 16:02:14
Morgan 7
Yer mate sound that when the FFP rules lob yer out of Europe will they hang around
Spriggo
Firstly - I don't know if they will 'Spriggo'? I'll ask them next time i see them.
Secondly - Do me a favour please, instead of saying 'yeh mate sound', and 'lob yer out'. Can we type normally as I feel like i am talking to a toddler.
And Thirdly - I have already been stung by Ed for getting the jist of the FFP rules wrong, so please read up on them before concluding that we will get 'lobbed' out of Europe.
Thanks Spriggo.
Morgan7
27 Sep 2011 15:31:02
I like Hendo and I think people have been hard on him but please let Kuyt start against Everton (or Bellamy) we will need experiance against our neighbours and kuyt will also add defense to the right hand side against Baines with him running up and down the wings -McMenemy
Yeah an he likes scoring against the blue noses aswel
27 Sep 2011 15:17:54
Ever heard of the 'Deloitte Football Money League' guys?
If not you should check it out, i beleive it places us at number 6, and yourselves at number 8. With the difference between ourselves being £30million profit.
So as i make it, as well as winning trophies, we are also making a decent profit at the same time. And the best thing is, with us changing things to fit within the FFP regulations, that profit is only going to get higher as we assemble a squad of good quality youngsters instead of buying like in the past. I as a Chesea fan can not wait to see what our future holds.
I'm afraid you missed the boat though guys. With the regulations coming into play there can be no more rich oligarchs or arabs buying LFC and spending silly money. We timed it perfectly, we have a very strong base to build from. Which means that you have 1 of 3 options.
1 - Rely on your current assembled squad to bring back the good old days. (I don't think the most bias Liverpool fan can argue that this is possible)
2 - Have an outstanding crop of youngsters to develop into a world class team. (Do you have any on the same level as Josh Mcrechran, Romelu Lakaku or Juan Mata? My honest opinion is i don't think you do.)
3 - Rely on your profit to enable you to spend big. (But we have just seen that you dont pull in a great deal of profit for this to happen.)
The irony of all this is that none of this would have been possible for us if we hadn't had come from 1-0 down to beat you 2-1 at Stamford Bridge. So from the bottom of my heart I Thank You as you played a very big part in the history of our club.
Morgan7 {Ed002's Note - Ignore the Deloittes' tables and "profit" is nothing to do with it.}
In short Morgan7 mate, you copied and pasted all this bullsh*t for nothing. You are a fool boy, i say fool. lol
Blair Mayne YNWA
I wish i had copied and pasted it, wouldn't have taken so long haha.
Point being...we're better than you so nur nur nur nur
Morgan7
To Respond to you second point, yes, Kelly, Henderson, Shelvey and Coates. Then after them we have, Stirling, Coady, Suso, Robinson, Flanno, Wisdom, Morgan. Then theres are also a load of lads who have just come up from the U16's who look the business but i haven't seen enough of them to say for certain. Hatch, Sumner and Lussey spring to mind.
See school has let out . K96 .
2- Im sorry, but we have raheem sterling, adam morgan, jonjo shelvey, and toni silva
Morgan7 lol
Blair Mayne YNWA
HA jonjo shelvey HAHA he is shocking lads
Dan1CFC
Arsenal has best youth, Alex oxlade chamberlain, Ryo Miyachi, Frimpong, wilshire, bartley, coqulien (spelling)
27 Sep 2011 15:10:30
22 years? You're either struggling with maths or like most Chelsea fans; Clueless (except you ed2 ;)) - it was 21 years last May since a league title was won on Merseyside.
A scouser picking up on Maths. I have seen it all
I'm not a scouser. I live in Cork in Ireland hence Corkpoolred - now I have given a maths and geography lesson. I won't be giving language lessons though for the Manc's as we all know at least 20 different languages are spoken each week in side Old Trafford ha.
Corkpoolred
Haha. Go ed Corkpoolred. Ask him what the weather is like in Dubai?
youcantkidakidda
27 Sep 2011 15:10:03
"THE CAPTAIN, THE HEART AND SOUL OF THE FOOTBALL CLUB, WITH ONE KICK OF THE BALL CAN WIN THE TROPHY......OH HES MISSED IT" Moscow 2008 the closest Chelsea ever came to a European cup.
Liverpool we won it 5 times!
John Terry what a legend when destiny arrives he fell on his hole.
Dont Buy the Sun
27 Sep 2011 15:03:32
Melbourne CFC
Must have been painful to watch us beat you 2-0 at home and 1-0 down there when you have spent an absolute fortune on players.
Mourinho spent a lot of money. But when he came up against the crowd in 2005 he had no answer and that's why you were left at home when we won the Final dancing round istanbul.
That win will be remembered long after the title winners of 05 has left the memory.
Our banners are real. Not fabricated from the club. They are thoughts and emotions of the people. The heartbeat of LFC.
There have been some class players down your end such as Zola but when you had Sutton we had Fowler when you've had Lampard we've had Gerrard. Now you've got Torres. We've got Suarez. We didn't spent £250m in one go.
You won't win the league. You won't win the Champions League. So really we compete on the same level. We are a growing team. You are a spent force.
Spriggo
Lakaku (18), Mcrechran (18), Romeu (20), Bertrand (21), Courtouis (21), Luiz (23), Ramires (24), Mata (23), Sturridge (22), Torres (27).
You're right 'Spriggo' we're not a growing team.
Very Ignorant of you
Morgan7
Torres? You can't count him. We've had the best out of him and riobbed you for 50M to boot. He'll be off injured within a fortnight - he's way overdue.
Torres (27) - is that meant to show the bright future for your club? Torres will score goals for a couple of seasons but he has lost a yard of pace from 3 years ago and is an old 27. He's not the future of your club. To me, Sturridge looks very impressive. Lukaku can't be ignored either, and Mata obviously has great potential. Those 3 will probably replace Malouda, Drogba and Anelka in your team from the last few seasons. Good as the young players are, I'm not sure they consitute an improvement on those 3. And McEchran, Romeu, Bertrand, Courtouis, Luiz and Ramires as replacements for Lampard, Essien, Cole, Cech, Carvalho and Ballack would consitute a definite drop in quality from 2009 to 2015
Red Ollie
27 Sep 2011 14:52:51
I dont watch mushroom, i really really dont! But if that is all you can come up with then I reckon you should probably keep it to yourself. You didnt even defend your team, you just submitted to the fact they play crap football.
Thanks for the banter fella's. Until next time
Melbourne CFC
I think you may have swalled dodgy mushrooms...
jb
Good luck mate, stay safe.
Blair Mayne YNWA
Maybe you should watch, with the exception of a few games we have played some brilliantly entertaining football since Kenny returned. You mustn't have watched any of our games as i don't see how you could possibly come to the opinion that we play crap football if you had.
Nye
I've nothing to defend mate, maybe that's why I didn't. You said they were playing crap, not me!
MUSHROOM
27 Sep 2011 14:27:29
You guys are to much. You ask me for some memories that tug on my heart strings and then try and give me grief for doing so. Now as a 22yo New Zealander, you must excuse me for not knowing everything about Chelseas history. But Blair it was you all empowering boy toy DBTS that asked me for my memories, i am not just harping on aimlessly about my clubs history... like yourself who does that to death.
The FA CUP QF game where u were 2-0 up and we burried you 4-2 was one of the first games of football i watched with my old man. It was one of the reasons i grew to love chelsea.
The fact that my other favourite memories are those of recent successful times shouldnt be a surprise. I mean im just your opposite. All of your favourite memories are older than i am.
Ronillz NY Red 4 words - no champions league football. something you boys must be coming accustomed to.
Ill throw you an extra 16 for free: In last 20 years BLACKBURN has been more successful in the league than you. BLACKBURN. Ha.
As much as i appreciate history means alot to you Liverpool bunch im more of a live for today kind of guy. And today boy do Liverpool suck at football. I mean Geez.... you guys are painful to watch.
Melbourne CFC
Then don't watch. It's not that difficult to do.
By the way, 20 is a number and not a word when wrote like this, so you gave us an extra free 15 words, that's still 3 short of how many titles we have and 11 more than how many you have.
MUSHROOM
As a 22 year old New Zealander supporting chelsea makes perfect sense.. Just like the All Blacks you choke on the biggest stage!
Dear Melbourne CFC.
Sorry mate, you can't consider your team a true success until you win the Champions League, so unfortunately CFC are still a underachieving team in this regard, success in recent years has been skewed by Romans massive expenditure.
As a team CFC have not evolved 'organically' like Liverpool or the Mancs, but progress has been artificial.
The team is truly at the behest of Roman, and what would happen if he ever tired of football, the new FFA rules will also expose the financial frailties of the club.
So keep these points in mind, and think before you are critical of other clubs!
Shanklys Red Army.
How are we painful to watch? During Kenny's first tenure we played the bests football I have ever seen, and we are now getting back to that style of play. We are far more entertaining to watch than Chelsea. As for Blackburn being more successful, do you know who was managing Blackburn when they won the league? You prob wont remember you were only 6 at the time but it was Kenny Dalglish current manager of Liverpool Football Club.
Nye
If you're a New Zealander, why is your username Melbourne CFC??
Red Ollie
2005, Istanbul? Please say you were born then, though it would explain your posts.
Realistic red.
27 Sep 2011 14:22:13
GLORY YEARS RETURN TO ANFIELD: plausible expectation or a pipe dream bordering on misguided optimism?
The takeover by FSG and, just as significant, return of Kenny has considerably changed the landscape at the club we love.
Safe to say the status quo now is scarcely recognizable from what'd become accustomed to the better part of the past few years.
The way things are shaping up has us all brimming with enthusiasm, hope and gusto last seen perhaps during 2008/09, the season we could and probably should have ended our seemingly perennial wait for the league title.
The conviction; the expectation, that we're about to reclaim our place among the elite, is there, and abounds.
However, I want to enquire: is this optimism reasonable? What factors inform this expectation? Can they be relied upon?
The Premiership itself has seen a landscape change of its own in recent years. The arrival Roman Abramovich and his millions unceremoniously ripped the duopoly so long enjoyed by Arsenal and Man Utd.
More recently Manchester City-- through their bottomless pits of Abu pound-- has ripped open the top 4 bracket and are set to be a force.
For us, the slope has never been more steeper.
A look at our competition:
1. Manchester United: Utd have a bigger stadia than us and generate revenues that considerably dwarf ours.
As it is, we simply cannot compete with them wages and fees-wize.
Add to that the fact that they have a better squad than ours.
2. Manchester City: the best team and squad in the division. Their cash pockets are bottom-less. No way we can compete with them financially in any way, shape or form. FFF rules likely to be circumvented.
3. Chelsea: another money-bags. No contest financially. Will easily finesse the FFF rules.
If we're to bring back the glory days of yesteryear, the above are whom we'll have to overcome.
As I indicated, in terms of spending power we're nothing compared to these clubs.
They already have better teams and squads than us.
Just as we improve, they also will be improving.
So in light of the above, what has to happen, how and when, for Liverpool to do what Man Utd have been doing in the Prem say, the last 5 years, and be where Barca has been Champions League-wize the past coupla years?
For us Liverpool fans, the goal, for many-- expectation, is a return to the apex of the English game and European dominance.
What's the blueprint, timescales, scope, pros and cons?
To what extent will ous fate be in our own hands?
How is the emergence of Moneybags, strong presence of the old foes Utd and the ever competitive Chelsea going to shape our destiny?
Over-inflated player fees and unprecedentedly high wage demands are the order of the day. How is this going to impact us?
I'd like to hear some considered and well-reasoned two cents from objective readers and posters on here, preferably LFC fans.
All too often I hear and read about how "return to glory days".
So what I'd like to know is, as per the opening line, whether this is a plausible expectation based on real and sufficiently supporting factors, or merely a pipe dream born of misguided optimism?
Baie dankie
Ray Burmeister
Ray , very good post , its clear kk went for a british based player set up for the first team , and while hendo and andy are talking a bit of time to slot in , i think come the winter months we will see a stronger team than we have had , as the players gel more i am sure top 4 is the least we will get , the future for us is quite simply improving even more our youth set up , theres no question the quality has improved 10 fold now , and over the next 5,6 years we could have a future team with say 7 of the youth players coming though together at the same time ,this is how barca overtook real , thats what the club need to do more than fans think as with maybe building a new ground or re doing anfield the money for a while will have to be used wisely, also we have to give kk time and get behind the team as we wont get instant success but if we stick together as kenny says we will get there.........lfc
Hi Ray.
I assume you are also a South African.
You raise some really valid points.
I often feel that we the fans are so desperate for success (return to the glory days) that we overlook the obvious.
The key issue as I see it is Revenue.
With limited financial resources (Stadium capacity of 45000),and no current Champions League revenues, the teams progress and future player acquisitions are indeed limited.
The 'damage' done by H&K, will take sometime to be repaired, and this will stifle things in the short term.
The realities are: That without the additional revenues of a larger capacity stadium, the team can not attract the 'best' football talent, this directly impacts on success in domestic (English) and European competition.
So it really is a catch 22 situation.
For the club to stay competitive, revenues must improve!
We must never lose sight of the fact, that Football clubs have to be run smartly and with financial prudence, and that they are businesses after all.
Lekker dag!
Shanklys Red Army.
To all Liverpool Fans,
lets be patient guys. Dont forget that barcelona spent years in the wilderness developin la masia while real madrid were winning trophy after trophy. Look how it has changed over the last 4 years. Last night, the blue mancs got a taste of mercenary sauce when tevez refused to play. It will probably be 5-6 years before we reach the top, but believe me, if we reach barca's level then, all these years of suffering will be worth waiting for. We have a gr8 youth setup, good team spirit, fantastic owners who look after us rather than pamper us like the sheiks do with the blue mancs, we r on the verge of building a new stadium, n we have just clinched some big sponsorships. Its highly unlikely we will win the ucl or the bpl while KK, SG r around but in 5-6 years... hopefully we will have reached the top if everything goes accordin to plan.
Indian Buzzer
27 Sep 2011 14:16:06
hey ed, just wondering why a few posts having been making it through. Do you think im being a bit rough on the scousers? I know they are a sensitive bunch
Melbourne CFC {Ed001's Note - because most of your posts are nothing but foul language and abuse.}
I'm sure if you had something to say Mebourne CFC then the eds would post.
MUSHROOM
With your lack of football knowledge and humour Melbourne mate. I'm supprised any of your posts make it up onto the board, you make the Mancs look/sound like Paul Merson.
Blair Mayne YNWA
27 Sep 2011 13:53:30
What about
Reina
Kelly Carra Skrtel Enrique
Lucas Adam
Bellamey Kuyt Downing
Suarez
SteLFC
For the next game or long term SteLFC?
What about
Reina
Kelly Skrtel Coates Enrique
Lucas Adam
Downing Gerrard Bellamy
Suarez
Some people might say Coates looked shakey at times in the last game but in his defence he is a really good footballer and his distribution is much better than Carraghers and also Carragher has looked shakey the last 3 seasons IMO, giving away penalties and stupid free kicks and being caught out for pace in almost every game... Gerrard will be so up for this game aswell, i predict a few goals this weekend for Liverpool, confidence is back
For the game, Long term would have Gerrard and Coates in there. I think the derby would be a tough game for Coates especially if Cahill plays up top and is fired up like he normally is against us
SteLFC
27 Sep 2011 13:48:29
KopIdol are you referring to when Gallas clearly cleared the ball off the line only for the blind ref to give it a goal. Is that the Garcia sinking you speak of. It must be nice for you guys to be able to sit back and remember the good days at liverpool. I mean not being in the CL atleast takes the stress away for you boys.
FFP Rules? And how much did you boys spend... sorry waste during the summer. I believe it was $100M.
Do you even understand how the new rules work mate, or when they come into play.
I am going to answer the question of how many European titles Chelsea has won, with a bit of trivia.
Chelsea has won as many european trophys as:
a) Liverpool has won leagues in the past 22 years.
b) The amount European games Liverpool will compete in, in the year 2011/2012.
c) The number of people that rate Andy Carroll as a striker.
DING DING DING. EVERY ANSWER WINS!
Melbourne CFC
Absolutely brilliant, what a picky memory you have Melbourne, was it not a blind linesman that saved your bacon when it was clearly 3 yards over the line?
Roy carrol what a superb keeper he was.
MUSHROOM
22 years? You're either struggling with maths or like most Chelsea fans; Clueless (except you ed2 ;)) - it was 21 years last May since a league title was won on Merseyside.
We're rebuilding to be in the Champions League next season. Something ye were doing 10 years ago - did we bash ye about it? No. Wanna know why? Because ye are not as big as a club as ye think ye are; Roman's millions have put ye on a radar.
LFC were brought to greatness by Shanks - a man who had a good eye for a player - ye had a billionare bring ye forward. A good business man who won't refurbish Stamford Bridge, why? I couldn't tell ya but I'd take two guesses
1. He knows ye probably won't fill a 60,000 plus stadium
2. If ye win the Champions League - who knows he might sell up?
Corkpoolred
27 Sep 2011 12:52:41
Dont Buy the Sun, you sound like more of a fairy than your good mate aqua.
Ok first moment is for yourself, Blair and Lfc, JRG can read aswell if he sees fit.
The year 97, competition FA Cup, league QF, score, 2-0 Liverpool. A little Italian named Zola ring a bell. 25 yards out. What a stunner. Final score 4-2 Chelsea. I believe we went on to win it that year. Dennis Wise's grin with that trophy in hand still gets me going.
How about Jose throwing that second winners medal to the crowd. The only way one of you scousers could get your hands on a winners medal in more than 2 decades would be to catch it. I dont believe that happened.
David Luiz's cracker against Man Utd last season is one of my fondest also. Gotta love Luiz.
But all time favourite would be the 04/05-05/06 back to back. Something your fans wont see for quiet a while now. If ever.
You think just because Roman bought us in 03 that all Chelsea fans are money hungry fat cats. Not the case.
If you cut me, I bleed Blue!
Melbourne CFC
Guys guys guys... Just came on here and came accross all this banter. I have to say there is some real s**t being spoken by Chelsea supporters. I appreciate you are a far better side than you were 10 years ago but how many trophies have you actually won? You have no European cups compared to Liverpools 5. Thats forgetting the 3 EUFA cups when 2nd place in the league went into the competition. Plus all the domestic cups. Before shouting your mouths off at least have some sort of substance to your arguement. You have won less trophies than your London rivals Arsenal and Spurs by a long way. I suggest you get back to yuor own site and work out between yourselves where you are going wrong.
No signature....doesnt count. Thank God you didnt sign it aswell because it was an awful post!
Morgan7
You mention that just because Roman bought the club in 2003, not all Chelsea fans are money-hungry glory hunters (ok, i'm paraphrasing a little), but in your list of fond memories, you only have 1 that occured before the Russian Fantasy Football enthusiast bought the club. 8 years of buying trophies does not qualify as a rich history, my friend.
Rugby Parker
I'm confused Melbourne mate? You criticise me about talking about our history on the Manc page. Now your on here bragging about your short, short, short, Abramovich orcestrated "history".
Me thinks you've spouted that much bullsh*t on both pages today, you've lost yourself, yes?
Blair Mayne YNWA
Lmfao at the Chevski supporters.. Two words ... Nottingham forest.... Lol they have more history than you lot
Ronillz NY red
I'm sorry Melbourne CFC but I'd never heard of Chelski until some oil tycoon bought them. They must have been some obscure club until the money came along. Unlike a certain team I could mention.
MUSHROOM
What melbourne fc FAILS to mention in his record of the last 33 years is that LFC have well and truely THRASHED his CFC in the last MAJOR games (bar 1), 2005, CL, 2006 FA Cup SF and 2007 CL SF.........sounds like a bitter pensioner to me!
27 Sep 2011 12:05:11
To Melbourne CFC
Am sure its a trek to get to the Bridge but when you watch the boys at the bridge gearing up for kick off waving plastic flags to the strains of THE LIQUADATOR what moments pull at your heart strings what memories do you recall that almost move you to tears?
Life isnt about tallys charts or statistics its about those never forgotten moments......
Shanky arms out stretched to the thousands of fans
Brucie doing the wobbly legs Rome 84
Stevie urging the crowd on as he makes it 3-1 in Istanbul
Fagan by the pool with number 4
Fowlers dockers T shirt
Shanks with the UEFA cup the start of a love affair with European nights.......
Legends,trophies,atmosphere,history,memories
And you? Money, ego maniac manager, players inspired by cash and yes the captain who when the moment presented itself FELL ON HIS ARSE!
Your club in a wealthy area of London is cold and devoid of any spirit the supporters a bunch of fat right wing thugs with no memories no golden age nothing to stir the emotions.
Stay in OZ your missing nothing at the Bridge
DONT BUY THE SUN
Torres is hitting form now (you once loved him) Steven Gerrard your icon and skipper once stated he wanted to come to us (unlucky stevie lad we went on to win the double and you won.... oh yea NADA) just remember your nobodies now! ok? im sure its hard to take but thats it plain and simple. dont go talking about my club when you probably havent been to the bridge or seen players like JT, Lamps, Didi kissing the badge and putting there heads where SUAREZ wont put his left hand!
JOG ON AND ENJOY UR FUTURE COS ITS LOOKS HORRIBLE MATE!
Dan1CFC
Would this be the same John Terry who was making advances to Man City a couple of years ago so he could get a new deal from Chelsea? The same Lampard who disappeared down the tunnel before the end of the game at the weekend as he wasn't needed?
The only place I have seen Didi put his head is on the end of the Norwich goalkeepers fist which knocked him flat on his a**e.
JRG
JT was kissing more than just the badge Dan mate.
Blair Mayne YNWA
Oh yeah....and shagged his team-mates missus behind his back......proper legend.
JRG
Didn't liverpool do a double over you last year? you talking about didi, jt and lamps they not gona play for a long, your future looks worrying.
and gerrard would have left if we didn't win something in the 05-06 season but we got the number 5 so shame.
No this is the same JT that is the only England captain around at the moment NOT STEVEN GERRARD! we know what we need to do with our older players that have served the club so well (Frank) and put him on the bench because he isnt up to par at the mo, however i think "King" kenny should have a look at what AVB did and do it with Carragher who at best is SHOCKING!
plus JT came out and said publicly he was NEVER going to leave and did not once think about it and it was all media hype!
enjoy watchin us play tomorrow in the CL when your not even going to sniff, SNIFF, european football for a GOOD 3-4 years!
Dan1CFC
Really? I'm sure Gerrard won the Champions League, how many have Chelsea won again?
You Liverpool fans do make my day. The endless tales of your fantastic history, the quotes of former greats, the togetherness of the fans, the predictions of future success. When o when will you realise that, and im going to write this in capitals so that you dont forget it.....YOU ARE NOT A THREAT ANYMORE! Please reply Blair, you are keeping me entertained at work. Thanks
Wow shows how much is going on at chelski and spamville for you boys to so busy on our site. Show's how much fear there really is out there. By the way aussie boy remind me how it felt when Garcia sunk your crappy team in CL? keep talking its very entertaining reading your rubbish actually makes me laugh. You worry about your selves with the FFP rules coming in.
KopIdol YNWA
History is what makes clubs great unnamed poster. I'm more than happy with my clubs glorious history, can Chelski, City, Spuds etc....say the same?
Every club has history, but some are more special than others.
Blair Mayne YNWA
Ps. Are you really at work, or did you get new PC's in at Broadmoor?
If you are trying to make us jealous by saying that John 'super-injunction' Terry is England captain then I am afraid you have come to the wrong site. If Stevie Gerrard never plays for England again I wouldn't be upset.
JRG
Didnt we do the double shuffle on chelsea last season lol
Ronillz
Firstly I only come on this site to have a laugh at you lot talking about how u got beat 4 zip by spurs and how you think you would play Charlie Adam and Andy Carroll (who are by the way ABSOLUTLY DREADFUL PLAYERS) and that is pretty much the be all and end all of why I come on this Liverpool fanť page.
Secondly, you say all this about how much history you have and what not, BUT I think you forget the history we have and the memorable nights we have had ..beating barca 4-2, beating you lot 3-1 on your own patch (ivanovic and drogba we out played you in every way that night and don't forget it) beating united 3-0 to clinch the title for the second time! (im talking about the premiership by the way something you haven't won), winning the FA Cup in consecutive years!
Thirdly, (this is an optional one for you lot cos I know you don't like talking about it) recent years¦. You are trophyless for 5-6 years now, and the way you lot go on and on and on and ON about how you have re-built and the greatest club in England will rise again don't make me laugh you will be stretching them years without a trophy for a while to come boys so all you really have is tryin to act bravado about how your fans are this and that, well I couldn't disagree more I think you're the worst fans in Europe and your club isn't far behind the stature of its own fans!
Keep it up lads I like reading your tripe!
Dan1CFC
One of my favourite memories Dan mate?
It's gotta be wee Luis Garcia's stunner against you, en'route to winning our 5th European Cup.
Don't forget Dan, it was us who got the self acclaimed "special one" the sack. If you had have beat us at least once in the semi's, i think the "special one" could still be there.
Blair Mayne YNWA
27 Sep 2011 11:55:45
Haha kinda ironic your talking about a manager loosing his job if he fails at champions league... isnt that King Kenny's bare minimum to keep his job?
Id start praying boys... I guess it wouldnt be that bad if Roy came back.
In AVB We Trust
Melbourne CFC
Melbourne CFC
Don't you know who you are talking to? The self deluded, self obsessed, self proclaimed best supporters in the world...ha ha ha ha!
Sir Alex x
"In AVB We Trust" Come back after Xmas Melbourne mate and say that. It will be "In The New Interim Manager Untill We Find A Replacement In The Summer We Trust" good luck.
Blair Mayne YNWA
Alex you are a fraud mate, you are not a Manc me suspects. Is your plums Red and White or bitter Blue?
Blair Mayne YNWA
Yes would love to see roy back melbourne to finally sink the old anfield ship .love your post melbourne .19 times ha ha
scouse mouse
"I'm a liverpool fan for 30 years..."
"Would love to see roy back to sink old anfield ship"
Scouse mouse - you are a not a LFC fan... you are a bitter!
SingRed
27 Sep 2011 11:22:33
Just wanted to wish you guys luck in your pursuit on a Europa League spot this campaign. Wishing you all the best.
Melbourne CFC
(That alright JRG?)
All the best on your Champions League campaign - Always the bridesmaid never the bride.
JRG
AVB will be gone after you fail to qualify for the QF's Melbourne CFC.
Blair Mayne YNWA
Did you guys not get into the Europa League? Wow.....how times have changed! Word on the grapevine is way back in the day you were a good team capable of challenging for top prizes. Oh well theres always next year, fingers crossed Stoke get a few injuries and you can nip in there for that last coverted spot to next seasons Europa League! I sincerely wish you all the best.
Not Signed. Banter does not count!
Smelbourne CFC, we could be out of Europe for the next 20yrs, but ye spanners will only see european cups on posters, esp ones with LFC players holding them!
Red&Bred
27 Sep 2011 11:04:57
End of the world. All i know is Spuds gave up against both Manchester teans had 8 slammed. Something to do with finishing 5th or 6th with that kinda heart. And na, it was your mum typin for me last night lad thanks for asking. Jonson6
27 Sep 2011 10:38:14
Isn't the stadium announcement imminet Liverpool council deadlines up end Sept for decision over Stanley park {Ed001's Note - the deadline has been extended.}
27 Sep 2011 10:30:38
KK Please play this team for the derby
Reina
Kelly Carra Skrtel Enrique
Adam Lucas Henderson
Bellamey Suarez Downing
Subs
Doni
Coates
Robinson
Gerrard
Kuyt
Carrol
Everton would not be able to cope with pace and movement of front 3
SteLFC
But that mid doesn't know how to control a game.KUYT TO START.
Replace Henderson with Gerrard, play Adam left, Steve Right with Lucas just tucked in behind.
Matt b
27 Sep 2011 10:26:25
Great post from DONT BUY THE SUN. We are the best fans around with the Geordies second.
27 Sep 2011 10:13:17
My dads bigger than your dad blah blah blah blah...
I would expect this talk from Mancs or Chelsea fans but the worst aspect is hearing it from Liverpool fans.
Stadium size is irrelevant! Trophies won is to some degree wrong as well.
Liverpool are a gigantic club because like Barca or Celtic they define the game of football in a way in which other clubs dont.
It is the communion between the supporters and the players that builds a clubs soul and identidy.
Its not the size of the stadium the shape or look of a stadium that matters. Anfield is not a place as such but a community a unified society.
Old Trafford, Roy Keane their talisman critised the lack of atmosphere and the corporate nature of the ground.
Stamford Bridge they hand out plastic flags to fat middle class londoners and when they do make a banner its a direct copy of Liverpools, Anfield gates and all.
Anfield is wherever Liverpool play. Anfield was the Ataturk back in May 2005 or Old Trafford back in 2009.
Dont measure Liverpool in terms of owners wealth, stadium size, balance sheets comercial revenue etc that is for the marketing brands the souless clubs like REAL or UTD teams even their own fans struggle to like for they see nothing of themselves reflected in the club.
Look at the words of Maradona, T Henry, Eto, Cruyf,etc etc etc the worlds greatest players recognise that LIVERPOOL and its supporters have set the standard.
Youll never walk alone sung out while the KOP is a moving quilt of colour and banners THERE IS NO GROUND NO GROUP OF FANS WHO COMPARE.
Barca great because they represent a people denied a voice for so long because they played for more than glory but for identidy.
And Celtic who with legions of loyal fans conquered Europe with a team of local lads led by a man who did not earn the millions that Sir Alex enjoys nor was he Knighted, little did it matter he had the respect and love of the Celtic faithfull and a place in History.
And then Liverpool, a club were emotion is never hidden away a place that remembers never forgets,a place were the passion for the club is unmatched a place of continuity an ethos a way of life.
Bill Shanky didnt have race horses nor was he friends with rich Shieks or Thai bussiness men, he was humble working class socialist with values that were echoed in the hoardes of working class men and women who followed the same religion as himself LIVERPOOL FOOTBALL CLUB.
We are the biggest club and more importantly we are the biggest family and at Liverpool You Never Walk Alone.
DONT BUY THE SUN {Ed009's Note - One of the best posts I have read on this site.}
Brilliant piece. Thank you. All my sentiments rolled into one.
SioLFC.
Truly great post mate , this is what it mean's to be a red , it's not just football when you support the mighty red men . K96 .
Its posts like this that make the site so good
always a red
Truly great post DBTS - we should ALL look at ourselves and understand what it means to support our great club and what true wealth really is.
JRG
Absolutely rivetting! Magical post that captured the sentiments of real REDS.
Agree with Ed, one of the best posts ever.
Brilliant post!. Words of true wisdom that will resonate with all fans. Made me so very proud to be a Liverpool fan. 36 years a fan and always proud.
Thank you.
Fantastic post. Hope you dont mind but im going to email that out amongst my friends. I will credit you though
Red Greco
Maginificent....I sit 5125.6 Miles away from anfield..but my heart always a Red..we will qualify for the CL..and we will rule the world once again.....
What a quality poster you are DONT BUY THE SUN mate. Every single one of your posts is top notch, keep them coming.
Blair Mayne YNWA
Liverpool have supporters like you; other clubs don't.
Jack D.
Just to put my name next to a great piece. Well said mate.
MUSHROOM
Im a Liverpool fan And a Celtic fan and a can honestly say mate the hairs on the back of my neck was standing up reading that, master peace b est post if read in ages. YNWA.
Scootybhoy1888
Genuinely bought a tear to my eye!
What a brilliant post.
wexford red
I haven't used the word 'astounding' for quite a long time. I've been reserving it for this post! Good lad!
Cuchulainn's Hounds
27 Sep 2011 10:07:14
I hope Kenny starts with this team against Everton.
Bellamy
Suarez
Downing - Lucas - Gerrard - Kuyt
Enrique - Carra - Skrtel - Kelly
Reina
Bellamy will stretch the defence and Kuyt is a big game player. I think Adam will probably start but I don't think he has the temperament to stay on the pitch. Spearing may be the other player to step in and add a little bite.
If Carroll starts I'll accept it and hope for a big performance but I hope Henderson doesn't start. It's not that I don't rate him, he's very raw but has talent. It's because Kuyt always performs in big games and I feel we lack his goal poaching abilities and ridiculous hard work and stamina.
I'm looking forward to a great game and these hope boards are filled with happy optimistic people afterwards not the usual miserable moaners.
Papa G
Id swap lucas for adam or hendo and carroll for bellamy
Papa g
i agree that is probably the strongest team we have, i dont rate henderson at all sorry, bob paisleys skids
Hendo should be given a go in his natural position, in place of under average lucas
jb
27 Sep 2011 05:55:41
Hendo to be given a chance in a central role?.
Agree or Disagree?
El juego hermoso.
Not yet, eventually yes but not yet. Our priority is to win games with the right players in their optimum positions. There are better players on our books for the Central role.
He needs time to develop himself. He isn't upto the par, so far. But I beleieve he can be more consistent and would be a star for us in the coming years. YNWA
Gerrard is Back why we are going to give a start to hendo? let Gerrard start the match after 70 minute hendo can have 20minute.
Gerrard will play wide right , crosses for Andy Caroll, Hendo for Lucas
JB
I'd not swap any 1 for Lucas, atleast. He's been so good so far, this campaign. Its not that if we have paid 20m for hendo, he should start every single game. He needs a bit of time and Gerrard is also there to guide him to become a top lad. YNWA
I cant get henderson at all, people saying he will be one for the future? gerrard was miles better than him at his age, henderson shows no aggression or desire and looks lost and is yet to ruffle his hair or get mud on his kit i dont think the 18 mill was spent on him, spearing is a better player he is a tryer and doesnt hide, bob paisleys skids
Henderson was bought for central midfield, exact position Lucas is in at the moe, when henderson plays his correct position i bet yer obersavations will change!
jb
27 Sep 2011 02:02:53
please post this ed I'm a liverpool fan for 30 years and have been delighted with the new squad kk has put together . my point is so many people here given out about hendo and andy Adam etc. but been honest we can't expect anything better cause I lived through the glory days and they are gone and have been for almost 20 years . we are now a small club we fell behind we are in a small stadium .we are living in the past . but I can't wait for the upcoming season and think we can make top four and next season we will try mix it with the big teams In europe thanks eds
Scouse mouse
Mouse how deprssing,how about reaching for the moon even if you miss,you will land among the stars(godin)
Mouse another one for you,attitude is a little thing that makes a differance,winston churchill.(godin)excuse spelling in last post.
Mayby depressing godin, but point out what he said wrong first!?
RedBlood
If we are a small club what are man city and chavski. Get a grip.
kopfiend 1978 ynwa
I went away to Blackpool and had to sit through first half of Rangers celtic game before they eventually switched over to the Liverpool Tottenham game. I thought maybe we are not as big as we think. Would that have happened if it was united game? I felt a bit depressed being second fiddle to poor Scottish football. Steve068 {Ed001's Note - it was September weekend, Blackpool is full of Scots, so yes it would have happened no matter what other teams were playing.}
How about Scouse Mouse saying "We are now a small club" RedBlood mate. Seriously, how many LFC fans have you heard or seen, call us a "small club"?
Blair Mayne YNWA
I can see where Scouse Mouse' point of view but calling us a 'small club' is a bit extreme. Over the next few years we are going to find it hard to compete financially with Man U who have a larger stadium and better sponsorship etc and Man C and Chelsea who have rich owners who are prepared to pay inflated wages and transfer fees for 'star name' players. Even Arsenal have a big stadium with increased capacity and income but they have a manager who is not prepared to sacrifice his principles on big-name players. That is why people posting their fantasy football league 11 that we should sign are in a dream world - players like Aguero, Mata, Neymar etc are out of our league at this moment. The Eds have pointed out that this years accounts have not been published yet but they will show we have made massive losses for the last year.
I am personally very happy with the players KK has bought in especially when compared to the alternative option of bankrupting the club to buy 'star name' players. I would take JW Henry and FSG's policy over Peter Risdales any day.
JRG
'small club', 'small stadium'... scouse mouse is a bitter! SingRed
We are not a small club but the last few years have badly damaged the club and we are not seen as one of the big teams of europe anymore. losing ous champions league place and now no european football at all has hurt the clubs reputation in europe badly.Ive lived abroad for over 10 years and its very sad the way people view us as fallen giants of the game i just hope we get back in the top 4 soon and start to regain our reputation
18 league championships and still the only team with 5 European Cups, plus we are still ranked top 10 in Europe by UEFA. We are not small, we are giants!
SingRed
Liverpool Stadium Capacity = 45,362
Chelsea Stadium Capacity = 41,841
We're planning to rebuild up Anfield they are not - we have REAL fans they don't - our owners know we would fill a bigger capacity everyweek their owner not so sure.
We are LFC don't call us a small club. We are going through change at the moment and we'll come out the other side once again the BEST.
Corkpoolred
Corkpoolred Im with you ,nobody in their right mind would call liverpool a small club,then again maybe hes just crazy,i think its just a case of cat amongst the pigeons it certainly worked.(godin)
27 Sep 2011 01:39:26
BTW here's something to think about - doesn't it seem odd that De Gea has statistically the most shots saved? He may be a good shot-stopper but his decision-making is quite suspect. But here's the bigger picture - their defence is very suspect without Vidic! With pace, we can turn them over!
SingRed
Jones loves to run out of position. That is an area that can be exploited, especially on the counter.
Keith YNWA
27 Sep 2011 01:13:06
My bad it was City who slammed you 5-1 and the other team in Manchester 3-1. Wonder when yous Jug head feral boy on yous left wing gonna get a hair cut, bet he's had that style since he was found wandering a forest near Snowdonia age 8. He'll have that snide cut covering his crust till the day he wanders off back to the forest again never to be seen. (Can he speak?). Down boy down. Jonson6
It was 3-0 at old trafford... got it wrong...again, your posts hardly make sense, are you letting a child type for you?
It could have been 6-0 though. bale wants to go abroad....soon, modric wants to leave yesterday and adebayor is on loan and in the shop window for a big final contract...elsewhere. he will not drop from £175k to £75k a week to sign for spurs, he's too money orientated to allow this to happen. one good full season and a cash wealthy PSG or malaga will snap him up for about £125K a week. and as for ledley king, spurs's stats are shocking without him! which is a shame because he can't have much more than a season left in them knees.
there's your spine?!?! ominous eventuality-it's going.
just saying.....
27 Sep 2011 00:59:03
lpool fans remember this- the utd fans come on here and they entertain us , where as we go on their page to educate them............lfc
HaHa. Perfectly put. Well done mate!
Reddie Sixx
2 Utd fans who can read dis-agreed with this. The others well... who cares
Great post
Corkpoolred
27 Sep 2011 00:59:03
lpool fans remember this- the utd fans come on here and they entertain us , where as we go on their page to educate them............lfc
Educate? whats there to educate? that you have never won a prem, and never will or that europa league is best you can hope for..
It's amazing how envoius the Mancs are of us. True we have never won the premiership and we are behind the top 3, but they still come on here green full of envy. Amazing isn't it.
No matter what our beloved club goes through, we REDS will be there forever. Our hearts are not only full of hope, they are full of pride and joy. And that is somethnig you can never buy.
Whether our manager is the King or someone else of a top calibre, we will always be LFC and do things the LFC way.
Class is something you can't buy my clueless & classless friend.
27 Sep 2011 00:30:29
GAGUS you poor soul!
Thinks were obsessed with United while he posts on a Liverpool site.
Poor deluded GAGUS! Sympathy and pity to you in big doses. Poor GAGUS! you need to contemplate your argument better.
You appear a fool coming on a Liverpool page and accusing us of being obsessed YOU PLONKER!
Dont Buy the Sun
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So do you want to tell me why you wrote a huge story about United earlier today on the Liverpool page if your not obsessed with United?
G.A.G.U.S
Well G.A.G.U.S your on the site more than me lol.
king henry
27 Sep 2011 00:12:58
I have to admit, I actually like Matthew, G.A.G.U.S, sir alex, shappy and all the other mancs coming onto this site. Just shows how popular we are. Also nice to see mancs making a fool of themselves
Keith YNWA
26 Sep 2011 23:48:59
Guys seriously why are you letting these fans of other clubs get to you. If you can't stand the banter what's the point of being on a banter page. Why not welcome other fans to chat we might not like there views but there entitled to them same way were entitled to ours. Take things with a pinch of salt and remember we are Liverpool honour and pride in our family.
We've walked through the storm we held our heads high and we never walked alone. We will rise again. Enjoy the banter lads.
Quigz23
YNWA
Because I hate mancs, I hate their plastic team and fans, and because them nosey parkers just can't help but poke their red-noses into everyone's business.
SingRed
It's because Mancs come on here and put forth their demented unreal point of views. If they talked any sense and stated their arguments without any offense intended, we would have no problem with it. Their comments are derogatory and infuriate most of us.
I used to enjoy coming on this site during the transfer window as we supporters could banter with one another. But now, I'm constantly faced with tw1ts like Sir Fake, Sh1tty and the likes. Banter is different from insults. It has become unenjoyable.
Can't agree more! SingRed