Liverpool Banter Archive February 28 2014

28 Feb 2014 22:23:18
Eds.do you think will start with Allen in midfield with countino dropping to the bench I for one think it may give us more balance in the middle of the park what's your opinions guys ynwa.reddave

{Ed001's Note - no, I think he will stick with the same team that started last week pretty much. Depending on injuries.}

28 Feb 2014 21:26:20
I would go for Touré to partner Agger tomorrow as we need to bring back some composure and organisation amongst our defence. I am sure Touré can help with that playing in his preferred position at right centre back.

I would play Flanno at right back as he has been successful in dealing with the likes of Baines, Coleman and Walker already this season and I think he could be equally effective against Shaw.

Also, Cissokho at left back to do his job of defending as we could do with his strength against the attacking threat of Clyne.

Would you agree?

Red Rum

The words toure composure and organisation don't belong in the same sentence

Not when he is playing at left centre back Abo. In his preferred position (right centre back) he is fine.

For me, it is either Skrtel and Sakho or Touré and Agger.

Red Rum

28 Feb 2014 21:19:49
Eds and reds,
I think it's safe to say that Fabio Borini and Iago Aspas have not shown the potential to replace Luis Suarez or Daniel Sturridge from a starting spot.
However, I would like to throw out a wild shout. What about Danny Welbeck?
I think he could be another Daniel Sturridge; good player not getting enough opportunity at his current club, because their throwing cash at more experienced strikers, that could really step up a gear with the right manager.
I am awaiting the abuse and claims that I am a troll but I think he could be a very good option for us. What do you think?

{Ed001's Note - seriously? He makes Djimi Traore look like a skilful player! He is one of the worst players I have seen, outside of a Souness team.}

Phenom, keep taking the tablets pal

Phenom - may I suggest that you go on the Man U banter page and propose that to them that we take DW off their hands. I think you will find that a lot of them are in agreement with you.

Enough said.

Haha good one Phenom ;-)

I stand by the statement guys, I think his power, pace and composure could make him a quality player under the right management, which is not David Moyes.
I'm not saying he would walk into the first team but I think he could be good cover and competition for Daniel Sturridge.
I don't think we can realistically get Danny Welbeck, I doubt we'll do business with Man United in the near future, maybe when they've cemented themselves as a mid-table team.
I think he has what it takes and he's just stuck behind Rooney and Van Persie like Sturridge was stuck behind Torres and Drogba.

{Ed001's Note - composure? He has none! That is why he barely scores, despite numerous chances. He is quick, tall and useless. It is nothing to do with Moyes, the lad is just not a good player. To compare him with Sturridge is lunacy. Sturridge had always had ability, it was attitude that was holding him back. Welbeck has never displayed any kind of ability at any stage.}

Fair play to you Phenom for having the bravery to send in that post. It's all about opinion and no doubt DW will get his chance at another club but I genuinely don't think he is or ever will be at DS' level.

Welbeck has delusions of adequacy.

Not many players on the planet could replace SAS at the min mate. As for DW I think he's poor. I'd take that Hernandez as a sub though he's got goals all over him. Anyway,, United Liverpool should never do business over players IMO. I'm old fashioned

28 Feb 2014 19:16:57
Hi Ed01, hope your well and looking forward to another busy weekend. Just like to start today off really with your opinion on a couple of players of ours and a couple who are linked with us in the press today.
Firstly Aspas? I liked him in pre season, but he has looked a bit light weight and whether it's bad luck or injuries it just hasn't happened for him this season, do you see him staying?
Borrini, he seems to be getting his fitness and confidence back under Poyet, and in my opinion Sunderland will play a game more suited to him now Di Canio has left, so another loan there would not be a disaster, or do you think he will want more?
Then Firmino? this is in a few papers and seems to have come out the blue? Another attacking Mid seems a bit of a strange one to me. And then once again Bojan, this might just be lazy reporting but he does seem to get linked to us repeatedly, do you know if Rodgers does have any interest in the player? Or is he just available ( and around our price so to speak ) so gets linked.
I personally think it will be a lot like last year, if Suarez ends the season top scorer and trouble free he will be the hottest property in World football and as Ed02 keeps stating, who we bring in might depend on who leaves?

{Ed001's Note - Aspas I like as a player, he just needs to beef up, he is brushed off the ball with little effort. Shame, because he has good quality and his workrate is immense, but it is useless if you can't give him the ball without it being taken off him by a strong gust of wind.
I think Borini deserves a chance with us next season, especially if we do make the Champions League and need to go through qualifiers. Those extra games will take their toll on a player like Sturridge, who will need the odd rest of his limbs. I don't see anyone else on our books who could offer us more playing up front, just not out wide, he is not a wide player.
I don't know anything regarding Firmino, I thought we were keeping an eye on 3 of their players, but Firmino was never one that was mentioned to me. Before anyone asks, they have 3 youngsters we are keen on, one is a keeper, one is a left back and the other is Volland. I can't remember the names of the keeper and left back, I haven't had the time to chase up more info on them either yet.}

28 Feb 2014 17:07:43
I'm after opinions as to the appointment of boothroid as u20 england manager. It's well known how awful hodgeson is especially on a Liverpool forum & I'd of happily seen England not qualify so that he would be sacked for the greater good in my opinion. I do not care for the negative football & would much prefer most other managers. The fa is full of jokers as proved recently with anelkas ban. The sort of manager we needed was a Brendan Rodgers with him appointing the likes of inglethorpe & chrichley as u21 & u20 coaches with similar appointments for the lower ages. That is what was needed when instead we get hodgeson & pierce & then peter Taylor & now boothroid do they not have an ounce of imagination? Edoo1 thoughts please

{Ed001's Note - Bothroyd is awful, typical of the old English hoofball system. England is run by dinosaurs, coaching courses set by dinosaurs and producing coaches that are dinosaurs. The whole set up is a joke. Thankfully most of the academies are better.}

Maybe another dismal showing in Brazil might encourage a drastic change of direction by the FA.
Doubt it though, the failure will be blamed on (pick one or two of the following)
Weather (too hot)
Weather (too humid)
No winter break
Bad refereeing decision
Penalties
Stadium too mountainous/remote
Pirlo or some other hate figure from another side (that's better)
Players distracted by the local pubic haircuts

28 Feb 2014 15:56:03
Hi Eds,

Just reading a report on JEROME SINCLAIR and updates on him as what i'm reading is comparing him to Sterling?

Maybe in the fact that early last season he was fantastic & suddenly went to pot however he hasn't yet re appeared as half the player he was unlike sterling who has come back better than he ever was

28 Feb 2014 13:38:22
Every tough game since Christmas we've won and destroyed teams to, we've had tott & stoke away and thrashed them, I'm feeling were gunna see this again at Southampton, the media making a big thing about it, I think we're gunna thrash them, the players have belief that we can win the title!

Ed's also
If the winners of the Europa next year get CL qualification does that mean if Tottenham or Everton won it & another English team won the CL the top 4 and 3rd places in the league would go to them?

{Ed002's Note - You are going to need to reword the question - I have no idea what you are talking about.}

Europa league winner won't get cl spot

{Ed002's Note - From 2015.}

If an English team wins the Europa Cup next year would that mean it is in place of a top 4 team? The same as if an English team wins the Champions League?

{Ed002's Note - No, but if both the CL and EL winners finish outside of the top four, then yes.}

The winners or the champions league and the europa get places that have no effect on the domestic places, so there could be 6 teams from england in the champions league for the 2016/17 season onwards.

{Ed002's Note - No, if both the CL and EL winners finish outside of the top four, then the 4th placed team drop to the EL. By then England may only have three places in the CL.}

I think he means if Europa winners are outside top 4 is it only the top 3 that get champions league places?

28 Feb 2014 19:17:40
I had heard that the Europa League winner's would only take one of the Champions League positions from that country if the Champions League winners were also from the same League. In other words the Europa League winners would have their own separate Champion's League place in addition to the Champion's League placings for the country involved.

{Ed002's Note - It is explained above.}

01 Mar 2014 09:18:03
Thanks Ed02,
the replies confirmed what I was told, they just weren't on when I replied to the post.

28 Feb 2014 11:02:26
Been looking forward to tomorrow all season! Live down here and have tickets for the match. got to sit with my son though in the Saints area (he's a fan and plays for their Academy), just hope I can control myself!

I know if we play how we can then 3 points can be ours. Will be some good battles, Flano v Shaw, Lovren v Sturridge Suarez v the rest? :)

Not too many mistakes to let in Lambert, Rodriguez and Lallana and smiles on Sat eve!

I'm not looking forward to it at all mate. the saints have given a headache for two seasons now.
Hope ken wears his lucky pants for away days.

Have a good time mate!

Fingere crossed we flood midfield with gerrard, hendo and allen coming in for coutinhio. sas will cause any teams a problem going forward but we need to boss the midfield firstly and allen is the player to make a difference for us with his running and possesion. I hate to say it but i'd pick toure before agger all season and i'm a massive agger fan.

Big Ears. bout time we gave it back then!

28 Feb 2014 13:17:37
The way to beat Southampton is to press high and not let them run at you. They don't have any real pace in terms of getting in behind, but they have a few skillful players who can beat a man. Unfortunately, Rodgers will probably play Skrtel and if that happens, we will lose or draw this game. He naturally drops deeper than the other defenders which leaves holes and allows the opposition to press forward. If Toure and Sakho are fit, they should play. If not, Toure and Agger should. We need to dominate the midfield so I'd also go with 3 midfielders (Gerrard, Hendo and Allen). Southamptons weakness is they press high and leave space at the back. If we can sting them early on with the pace and movement of Suarez, Sturridge and Sterling I think we could win. Coutinho should be brough on for Gerrard when he tires as he is very direct and can hurt tiring teams with his vision.

Rodgers may opt for a different approach and I can see us sitting deep and trying to get Gerrard to ping some balls forward to try and hit them on a fast break. I hope this isn't the case because if that happens I think we'll see another Swansea game where both teams score 2/3 goals. If we press high though, I'd fancy us to outclass then. Swansea showed us what happens when you sit back and try to soak up pressure with an average defence. I don't fancy us to score 4 away from home either if we play counter attacking football.

Then again, I'm not a Premier league manager! Whatever way we set up, let's hope Rodgers gets it right. If we play with the same intensity we did against Arsenal in the FA cup, we will win (so long as we take our chances this time!).

YNWAdam

Alright Old Big Ears 05? I will definitely be wearing the lucky pants for every one of our remaining matches.
However, for some reason they don't work as well away from home. So although I'll wear them, I can't promise another heavy victory.
Still think we'll win, Saints are on a bit of a slump.

Hope you guys are right this game vfor some reason has being on my mind. its a game we need a win to start us off on good run

Mate I wouldn't worry about Skrtel it's Agger you really need to be deeply concerned about

28 Feb 2014 08:14:03
good morning Eds & Reds, quick question for Ed01 i'm seeing this morning that Aidy Boothroyd is taking over the England U20 coaching role, do you see him to be better than the previous coach & do you think he deserves the job? cheers in advance

{Ed001's Note - he is another hoof it long merchant, the FA are a joke.}

Cheers Ed01 I wasn't really sure what sort of a manager he was! I seem to remember watford playing some reasonable football but unfortunately my memory has never been great!

Thats a job for the likes of Hoddle I'd have thought, but then again until we start looking long term what difference does it make who takes the youngster's

28 Feb 2014 01:20:39
Remember when spurs signed soldado there was people on here complaining, well right now if he fell into a barrel of tits he would come out sucking his own thumb.

Hilarious mate

28 Feb 2014 11:55:56
that sherewood gets a win and straight away he is mentioning how they can catch Liverpool for 4th done the sAME after the newcastle game aviod defeat to them and utd and we r there imo.

28 Feb 2014 00:02:08
quick question to any of the Ed's, or any poster who knows, IF we do qualify for champions league, I am not sure how the coefficient points work, which seed would be?

just to mention, I have been reading this site for almost 5 years, I don't post much, but I love it! big thank you to everyone's time and effort into helping run the site =]

{Ed001's Note - that is not resolved until the qualifiers get in, I believe, as it is based upon the individual club's coefficient rating and the league's as well.}