Liverpool Banter Archive June 28 2013

28 Jun 2013 23:15:04
hey eds, is there apossibility of buying hendrik what's your view can u see us getting him seriously or just rumour has it, what about wanwama - southamton or the pool??pls and tanks {Ed002's Note - Dortmund or Liverpool.}

No it's completely impossible.

28 Jun 2013 22:31:42
PanARMENIAN.Net - "The Armenia and Shakhtar Donetsk midfielder Henrikh Mkhitaryan got a lucrative offer from FC Anzhi Makhachkala.
According to Izvestia, the midfielder was offered a transfer to the club at a private meeting in Yerevan.
According to a spoken agreement between Anzhi and Shakhtar, the Makhachkala club is willing to offer �35 million for Mkhitaryan should a transfer deal be closed.
Earlier, Shakhtar general manager Sergey Palkin has confirmed that Borussia Dortmund offered �30 million for Mkhitaryan"

I guess this is exactly what Shakhtar wanted although last week we were told they only wanted �30 million for the player.

abbs

Anzhi don't need to offer that much they just need to meet his release clause if we offer the 25 release clause an they offer 35 we both still get to speak to the player lol

belfast red adam

28 Jun 2013 22:16:48
Toure and Alberto will wear 4 & 6 respectively. Check the personalisation when u go to buy the 3rd shirt on the online store

Im getting hendo on my shirt as I believe he will be super for years to come

Henderson will for sure be a superstar I hope its with us the lad has every aspect just needs to perfect them dear I say it more effective than gerrard was that's how good I belive this gent will become

I think Henderson will become a good player for us but saying he'll be more effective than Gerrard, have a day off will you.

Red Bish

I like hendersen but I believe he is not in br long term plans.

Henderson on your shirt may as well get voronin

28 Jun 2013 21:43:14
Apparently a fee of 30 million euros has been agreed with shaktar for HM. Was really hoping HM was a smoke screen for Erikson, but it seems to be legit. Juve, chelsea, man city, Amadrid and anzhi were in for him too. Thoughts eds? Great job as always, appreciate the work!

Mikey fernz

If this is true I can't see it being Liverpool that will pay 30 million for him!

And for who would this supposed smokescreen be for?

He said 30 million euros . And a smokescreen for erickson

Im not an erickson fan like a lot on here but I have been really impressed with mkhitaryian the few times I saw him so if we get it done its good business in my opinion

29 Jun 2013 18:56:32
Why do people keep using the word "Smoke screen". There is no such thing. Clubs don't use anything to put other clubs off the scent of who they are really looking at

If there are 3 words or phrases I hate, they are;

Smoke screen
Lazy journo
My source, or sources close to.is that 4?

BR and the board will have a list of players they want to bring in, and there will be a list that will be going out. We can guess all we like as to who these are, but seriously, don't make out you know. the Eds will give us any credible information

I don't really care who comes and goes. All I know is that come the start of the season, we WILL have a squad capable of challenging for that top 4. As I said in a previous post, get down the bookies while the prices are nice.

RD

28 Jun 2013 21:10:54
Could Sakho play RCB because he is left footed?
Also reports are saying that the mickey deal is getting closer!

No. It is impossible.

Only joking. It makes no difference in the central positions in my opinion.

Davey Sulls.

I think RCB we already have and kelly is the man, he'd revel in ther and would be a fitting replacement for carra

28 Jun 2013 20:51:41
Hi ed's.
I don't normally get information about European players but I've just been told by someone I trust to expect "developments" with HM over the coming days.
Please don't shoot the messenger as I have stated endless times that I genuinely only have contacts within the football league and north east clubs, but on this occasion the info was about HM and I have no reason to doubt it.

Again, just passing on the info, choose to make of it what you want. I guess time will tell if the info I've been told is correct.

Have a good weekend {Ed002's Note - I appreciate there is stuff on Twitter - everyone is posting about it.}

I totally understand ed however this guy was also right about William and Fernandino from Shaktar hence why I don't have any reason to distrust him

He also said that we would sign Gaston Ramirez. However I do hope he is right about this one as I would love to see Mkhitaryan in Liverpool.

No shooting the messenger here Andy. this is a rumour site after all and that was a rumour was it not? And the very reason I visit this site. RUMOURS!
In Buck we trust!

28 Jun 2013 19:56:58
Hi Ed, do you expect any more signing during this window? {Ed002's Note - Yes - please read the posts.}

28 Jun 2013 19:07:51
Quick question for eds please,

Just wondered what your opinion is of the motivation or reason for people becoming principal owners of football clubs. Most football clubs don't turn a profit and they are very costly and require a ridiculous amount of time and effort to run. I'm finding it hard to fathom why any businessman may be interested in buying one as an investment. I know obviously that you are not multi billionaire football club owners and so have little insight to How they think but as learned friends of ours I was curious what your opinion is on this?

Thanks eds

Nevada {Ed002's Note - Some do it as an investment, some do it because they have an attachment to the town or city, some because they want to own a football club and can afford to do so, some because it has come through the family.}

28 Jun 2013 23:32:31
There's been a period recently that when multi-billionaires decided that they were sick of buying ridiculously sized yachts, and so looked for something else to make them seem richer than the next multi-billionaire. One of them then decided to buy a football club, and make it the biggest in the world

Biggest club in the world for me apart from my club (LFC) would be a choice of Real, Barcelona or Bayern Munich.

They are not owned by billionaires. {Ed002's Note - Like Liverpool are.}

28 Jun 2013 19:25:27
Eds I would be far more confident if landing some of the players discussed on the site if I knew we were going to make some revenue from player sales. Few players seem to be in the frame for moving on permenantly:

Assaidi
Shelvey
Spearing
Coates
Pacheco
Downing

Do you have any updates on clubs approaching us for these players? Knowing that we are looking to strengthen and need the cash to fit with NESV financial limitations I would have guessed clubs could get some decent players above at good prices?

When big clubs sell to lower clubs they seldom get the prices they would like. The players are on higher wages than the new club wants today so that knocks a chunk off the fee. And of course clubs will hang on knowing we will need cash to fund moves or reduce our wage bill so I wouldn't expect movement on some of those players until the last month.

28 Jun 2013 18:37:50
Luis Suarez and his agent have came out and said that Suarez is happy to stay at lfc? Ed any truth in this. Sorry if this has been asked already. Great work by the way.

If that's true it is cynicism of the highest order

Puzzled

27 Jun 2013 16:56:59
Question specifically for one of the Liverpool Eds, do you think BR views Sterling as a key part of the squad for next season or do you think he now views him as a squad player and not vital to the team?

I ask due to the apparent interest in players like Atsu and Deulofeu which would mean sterling is likely to drop down the ranks within the squad.

Thanks JC {Ed019's Note - Yes Sterling will play I think. He is too young to be loaned out imo}

28 Jun 2013 18:33:13
long time reader first time post. anyway with all the suarez furore I know it's a long shot but if RM low ball towards the end of the window in chance of di maria + the inevitable 30mill. anyway the question is anyone know whether di maria would give us a thought?

They would sell and he would leave but not to us. His contract has a stipulation that states he Madrid can only sell him to a club in the champions league. He can waive this of course but I wouldn't expect him to.

Nevada

28 Jun 2013 18:57:02
Via tv

Sakho said: "I have to take a decision. PSG are my club. I was born here and learnt my football here.

"I want to play for this club my entire life but it has to be clear that I don't want to sit on the bench.

"I did not play as much I like last season because of the manager's choices. Every player wants to play every week and I am no different.

"There is an offer on the table. With a new manager (Laurent Blanc), I can talk and see what he thinks.

"I am flattered to be linked with clubs of the history of Liverpool and AC Milan. We will see what happens in the near future."


Surely him coming out and saying he's been linked with Liverpool must mean there's at least some interest eds? Would really make sense as a BR signing, young, pacey, strong and comfortable on the ball.
Kopendlad {Ed052's Note - No interest as far as I am aware. We haven't even scouted him, and he probably wont leave}

28 Jun 2013 18:02:07
I have a really good feeling about Aspas. I think he will be a really big player for us next season. As in the impact that Suarez made when we sold Torres big.

Daveevad

I hate having to think like this bit 3 in a row would be wayyyyy too lucky for us!

If Aspas had played for Valencia or Atletico Madrid(Or Bilbao), Aspas would have cost £20m+, personally think we got a bargain.

No pressure good god just get behind him and also give him time to settle can hear the moans and groans already if he makes a few mistakes

mayhem 1981

Just saying I think he will be a really good player buddy. Never said anything about getting on his back if he is not.

Daveevad

28 Jun 2013 17:55:38
Eds is there any real interest in sakho as reports seem to gathering pace on this one. Also I really hope we don't get that lad from barca on loan deloufu I think his name is as he would only restrict sterling and ibe from game time why should we help develop other teams younger players when we have enough talented youngsters.
Thanks in advance. {Ed052's Note - Nothing from Liverpool}

Sakho is not really that good defender, it better to spend the money on other defender. The scout team has done well to end their interest on him and look on other target.

28 Jun 2013 17:52:08
What is the situation over wanayama sakoh and mkhitaryan. {Ed052's Note - There isn't a 'situation' of the first 2. And actually, the whole page is filled up with what is happening with Mickey, so please read}

28 Jun 2013 17:36:04
Liverpool are readying a bid for fisher of ajax if suarez leaves, heard it here first!

I will make you a fisher among men

28 Jun 2013 23:54:55
as much as he impresses me, I think it's just the press fisching for targets unfortunately

28 Jun 2013 17:33:19
Henrikh Mkhitaryan Wants Liverpool But Would Join Anzhi Makhachkala So Desperate is He for Ukraine Exit Says Former Team-mate.

"Henrik Mkhitaryan wants to leave Shakhtar at any cost", explained Serbian journalist Aca Stojanovic, who revealed to Inside Futbol that he was passing along the views of one of Mkhitaryan's former team-mates. "He was keen to move to Liverpool, but now would accept Anzhi's offer. But the deadline is 10 days." The 24-year-old, Ukraine's leading scorer last season, is currently facing a fine from Shakhtar for failing to turn up for pre-season training. While the club may be less-than-pleased at that move, Mkhitaryan has been hailed by his former team-mate, especially given the player's displays that helped Shakhtar win the league yet again. He said: "Henrikh Mkhitaryan is a top player and a great person as well. He slept in Shakhtar's training camp, not in a rented apartment "He was available for his team-mates at any time, day or night."

28 Jun 2013 14:15:50
Hey eds, are we looking at any DM's? Also, is there one in the youth setup ready to be promoted? {Ed052's Note - None as far as I am aware, and Coady, for usre}

1. Ed what about that Brazillian DM Matheus Betico?
Heard we were waiting for him to be 18 (which he did today) due the Brazilian rules and will now make a bid.

2. Also Ed did you watch the Carra interview?
He reckons we will sign atleast 3-4 players more. I would be extremely happy if we just got Mkhitryan, Papadopoulos, Biteco and either Atsu or gerard deulofeu.

28 Jun 2013 17:12:27
Hi eds, I've read a few times that the central attacking midfield role is a priority position that Rodger's is willing to spend money in order to fill. Do any of you have any ideas of what other options are or should be considered if we don't get Mkhitaryan?

Thanks & keep up the good work.

Honda is the only one I can think of straight away. Got any more names that might be on the shortlist?

Maybe and a big maybe if he would come erikson but i'd be happy with honda or turan

28 Jun 2013 16:41:54
Eds,

Anything new on Toby Alderweireld, last I read he was headed to Leverkusen but that doesn't seem to have come off. any shot that Liverpool may go back to him with the Papa move seemingly on the rocks. With the fee for toby less than papa I was assuming Toby's wages must be a lot higher otherwise not sure why they wouldn't prefer him to Papa.

thanks for all the work you guys do.

Lee in philly

28 Jun 2013 16:14:35
Hi EDS not a question just an observation.
It amazes me how so many players are happy to go to clubs and sit on the bench earning loads of money for doing nothing.
But now we are in World cup year they come out of the woodwork and want to move, Scott Sinclair and Micah Richards to name 2.
Wouldn't touch these players at all with a mentality like that.
Keep up the good work guys.

I don't know about individual players but, I ithink its not as clear cut as you make it . a peripheral player for a big team like city is always an injury to a first team player away from a shot at playing top level football.

D

That is what you call strength in depth .

I think Sinclair was a fool to move to City last year he was never going to be good enough (they had just won the premiership). Richards has been at City forever so can't class him in that bracket and he was a starter and then a heavily used backup to Zabaleta the season before this with him being injured this season. Maybe he just doesnt' want to be backup to Zabaleta - would that not put him as exactly the opposite of what you're saying? i.e. he wants to move to play

Maybe someone like Nasri if he was to look for a move to get back into the France team that might be a better example of what you mean

28 Jun 2013 16:08:30
Any news on Eriksen? Seems to have gone really quiet. Other teams linked are being linked or have bid on other players in his position. This kid was really tipped to be a big player, still young 21 I think? As recent as two years ago he was around the value of £20mil - £30mil. Now due the time left on his contract etc he is rumoured to be £12mil-£15mil and still no bidders? What has happened? Isco, Mkhitaryan, Goaez are all twice the value and are snapped up or formal bids made. What is wrong with Eriksen?
Carlo

I think Erikson is a bit of a punt. He is talented but expensive and unproven on the biggest stages. If he was that much of as sure thing the big teams would be all over him.

Mikhi is unproven on the big stage and would cost more but both are very good players i'd be happy with either

mayhem 1981

28 Jun 2013 15:46:20
Suarez to be dragd threw the mud for agreeing terms with Madrid and Toby still for sale good day

KC

28 Jun 2013 15:57:24
This will be my last post so I hope it comes through.
Harry, I got hammered by you on an earlier post?
Never in a million years buttyboy!
You never ever win an argument with anyone.
Your the biggest joke ever.
Never, my reply to your stupid post just didn't make it.
It was about David Villa.
I would take Daniel Sturridge over Villa anytime.
Sturridge is 23 and can be as good as he wants.
Do you think you are smart when you google how many goals Villa scored? It makes you look more clueless.
David Villa was one of the best, in 2008-2010 before he broke his leg an was out for over a year from football! He was never the same player after that.
He hasn't even been close to half the same level, that's why Barca are selling him.
Daniel Sturridge on current level is already a much better player than David Villa and it's just as simple as that.
David villa is looking for a last big pay check. It will be the last in his career.
Now please go and masturbate to the Suarez poster on your wall boy.

[The only REDS]

Totally agree. most people can't see the young stars in the making.
bale a few years back.
lewandowski in 2010.
suarez when ajax bought him.
alonso in 2004
ronaldo when replacing beckham
vidic in 2005 to name a few.

myself I have called for alonso to come back, but looking a a few early games last season I might be totally wrong about allen, hope so anyway. villa is finished, sturridge is really young and is real class if you ask me.

B O H

"This will be my last post so I hope it comes through."

From the Original post above

Horray!

The Only Reds,
Please not your last Post!
You are really interesting with your opinions.

Livern01

28 Jun 2013 15:35:14
Alberto to be our no.6?

28 Jun 2013 15:08:49
Hey eds, thx for the great work. A quick question, what is the situation concernin seydou doumbia as u know it? I believe there is a huge amount of uncertainty regarding his age and how many years he has played senior football, I assume if true this would deter clubs from making an offer. Also eds what clubs have enquired about his availability in the past or indeed has shown varying levels of interest, thx in advance eds.

Aidy in ireland {Ed030's Note - Doumbia has been accused of being 10 years older than he actually says,I believe this to some degree as he has been playing senior football for about 10+ years however I am unsure if he is the full 10 years older than what he says but it's certainly possible,The ageless Nigerian footballers is something that has always interested me and I would like to know more. }

28 Jun 2013 14:36:19
Hearing rumours about a possible Sakho bid. He is a player I have admired for a while. Any truth in this possible deal? {Ed002's Note - Search engine.}

28 Jun 2013 14:42:29
We are looking to off load Wilson, Downing, Spearing, Assaidi and unfortunately Shelvey. Although I do see the reasoning behind Shelvey going. Wisdom is likely to go out on loan. Skrtel looks to be staying so another first choice centre back looks out the question so forget about Papadopolous and Alderwiereld. As for players coming in, are main targets look to be Mkhitaryan, Illori, Atsu. Other players on the radar included Deulofeu, Callejon.

Suarez situation is up in the air, nobody knows what is going on. Suarez is trying to maneuver a transfer but the club will have the last say. Club preparing for both situations with Benteke, Gamerio and Muriel being lined up by the looks of things.

Der Nad.

28 Jun 2013 14:37:06
Where do Liverpool rate Martin Kelly and Andre Wisdom's best position's in the team?
I only ask because it changes the players we need to bring in to our defence. {Ed030's Note - Both right back however I think one of them will move to centre back. }

Both players are more effective at right back, although they can both provide adequate cover at centre back.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Kelly feature at centre back on occasions should Liverpool decide not to strengthen this area in the transfer window.

Agger, Skrtel, Toure, Kelly and a possible replacement for Coates (should he leave) would be sufficient numbers in this department. Taking into consideration that we are not in Europe next season.

Red Rum

Red Rum - you say both are adequate cover at centre back and I agree with you. If so then why would we want/need a replacement for Coates? I don't think we need 6 CBs without playing in Europe this season. The only way I'd like another coming in would be if they're actually good enough to challenge for a starting spot, which Coates was deemed not to be.

Hi Sean,

I would expect Wisdom to be remain at left back next season, second to Johnson.

I suspect Kelly will be used more as cover at centre back, that is if Rodgers does not bring in another player who will as you say challenge for a starting spot.

The reason I have suggested a replacement for Coates is because we have been heavily linked with Ilori of Sporting, and with Coates reportedly unhappy at Liverpool a move away looks most likely for the defender. However, I agree that we do not necessarily need to replace him if leaves but Rodgers may want to add an extra defender just to be cautious incase any injuries are picked up throughout the season.

Red Rum

Hi Red Rum, fair enough but that just looks like you're posting what you think Rodgers is going to do. I'm posting my opinion on what I think he should do, obviously he knows a heck of a lot more than me but what's your opinion - 1: we sell just Coates should we sign say Ilori? 2: we sell both Coates and Skrtel should we sign Ilori and someone like Papa or just Papa?

28 Jun 2013 14:17:54
Eds, I would like to thank you all for a job well done. I look to this site on a daily basis, searching though all the sewage of rumors just for your little nuggets of insight.

Now that we have signed a few players and are on the look out for a few more, what other positions do you feel that are being looked at?

Keep in mind that this will also include Suarez position should he leave.

With Aspas getting the number 9 shirt, would we be looking at an all new strike force at the start of next season?

Life Long Red

YNWA

The Suarez saga will come to a end next week I believe. He has to come back to Melwood and face his team mates and Rodgers and explain what he was trying to hint at.

I believe ethier he is forced into handing in a transfer request or he withdraws his statements and commits to the club.

These should be his only options.

BKP

I don't think we need a direct replacement for Suarez, rather another player with potential, I would like to see the money invested in a LB and Forward.

I expect Sturidge and Borini to be even a chance. With the amount of chances we are bound to create if we had to sign a replacement for Suarez for me the obvious choice is Hernadez. Frozen out at United, behind Welbeck. I'm pretty sure he would come and be the star.

BKP

He won't have to come back next week as he was away with Uruguay. He will probably be given a week or two off after Uruguay's involvement comes to an end on Saturday.

I think he might even be allowed an extended break because he is banned anyway for another 6 games, though I suspect LFC will want him back for pre-season by mid July.

The real AG

I'd have him come back to speak to the club face to face to clear the air. Then give him an extended break as he'll have extra time to catch up with fitness might as well rest him after the confederations cup.

28 Jun 2013 14:06:49
I can not see Micah Richards being an option.

We already have Johnson, Kelly, Wisdom, Flanagan and McLaughlin competing for the right back position.

I know Richards could also play centre back. However, so can Kelly and Wisdom and it would not be necessary to employ a player like Richards for back up ahead of current Liverpool players who are just as good if not better.

Not to mention his injury prone reputation.

Red Rum

28 Jun 2013 13:51:51
Hi eds, just wondering after our 4 signings already do you think any more signings will go through in coming weeks and if so who will be coming through the door? Would love to see HM but don't see it happening? and why aren't we going for tiago? just seems top players seem to slip through our radar (paulinho only £15m) in brazils national team) And what are the chances of Suarez leaving? BR come out saying he is comfortable with the situation? Any answers would be great! YNWA COS05 {Ed002's Note - Read the posts.}

28 Jun 2013 13:19:56
We should have bought 2 signings
Luis muriel and micky or errikson
thats 40 mill. ideal replacement for suarez.
go all out and break the bank get these two if erally needs to challenge the top4.
Luis Muriel is a must. the guy would become world class in 3 years.

I second that.

Lil Red

28 Jun 2013 12:34:36
Really worried the suarez saga will drag on. hope that we don't get into waiting game with Madrid trying to chisel the fee down. let's get him to put in a transfer request and give him a set time to go otherwise he stays. would prefer to do a quick deal with say PSG for 20M + Sahko + Gameiro rather than be left with him or messing about at the end of the window a la Carroll/Torres

Shushyboy

I like Sahko BR better sign him. Gemeiro not really needed but would be a good improvement on Borini. But Borini is staying so need for Gemeiro Then the back is sorted out unless Skrtel leaves then we 'll need another CB

Bosco

28 Jun 2013 12:03:36
Scott Sinclair asked Pelligrini could he go out on loan. Pelligrini said I'm sure you can but shouldn't you be asking whoever you play for that question. MonaghanRed

Mean but funny enough. Is it an oldy?

Andy K

28 Jun 2013 11:53:48
Hi Eds, I was watching Brazil the other day and I was thinking, Hulk and Paulinho are both unhappy at their clubs I know we probably won't get them but have you heard anything about them cheers great work {Ed030's Note - Hulk is vastly overrated and I would not want him anywhere near Liverpool,Paulinho look's likely to be off to Spurs. }

I hate the way people talk about Hulk he is terrible money hungry good for nothing rather aspas

28 Jun 2013 13:22:09
he ain't terrible,, is a decent player not world class quoted for 40 mill. but he has pace, power and superb left foot.

That fella would shoot from a goal kick if he was aloud take them

28 Jun 2013 15:03:19
Hulk and Suarez either side of sturridge would terrorise defences, with Stevie hendo and Lucas in a midfield 3 would be awesome, defiantly top 4 material! Never happen but we can all dream! Kinderfish

28 Jun 2013 11:49:00
why don't lfc set a deadline for madrid to buy suarez?
other clubs do it to lfc all the time
y don't lfc just set the date for suarez.
tell him if he wants to move, get a club within 10 days at 40million, make his life miserable and hanging in balance.
if he doesn't get a club he stays, why can't lfc be clear cut. we always panic in our big transfers. that is a small club mentality. and that is all what is wrong with the club.
the mentality is get in to top 4 rather than winning the league.
suarez wants real, tell him to get it done in ten days at 40m and its over. no one is bigger than the club. if lfc make a saga out of this they make suarez bigger than the club.
if he wants to go let him but under our rules. that is 10 days or u stay man eating midget!

28 Jun 2013 11:28:11
I see a lot on here about Shelvey leaving for Swansea is it true or just speculation . Thanks in advance eds . {Ed030's Note - I think he will leave. }

28 Jun 2013 11:13:18
Its mostly likely bull and personally I don't believe this but rumours on twitter and other forums tat Real have made a £25M bid for Suarez!

Eds or anyone heard anything to confirm or deny this other than twitter bull!?

NS {Ed030's Note - As you say mate probably twitter bull. }

Ed030,
I'm just putting 2+2 together here.
Rumours are saying Real Madrid have offered £25 million for Luis Suarez.
Other rumours are saying Real Madrid have offered Jose Callejon for Luis Suarez.
Could the money and the player be Real Madrid's offer for Luis Suarez? {Ed030's Note - I doubt it mate. }

28 Jun 2013 11:08:23
Hi Eds brilliant work keeping us all updated as we enter this busy transfer period. Only take this with a pinch of salt but my friend has a holiday home in Motril, Spain and him and I was speaking last night over the phone and he says he has heard a few people talking about jose Callejon getting linked a lot with Liverpool over the last few days. Do you think Real Madrid will look to offer him to us as part of any deal for Suarez? thanks again.

intitiwetrust {Ed002's Note - Possibly, they are struggling to sell players to fund moves and are now offering them in part exchange.}

28 Jun 2013 12:00:21
Ed002,
I'm just putting 2+2 together here.
Rumours are saying Real Madrid have offered £25 million for Luis Suarez.
Other rumours are saying Real Madrid have offered Jose Callejon for Luis Suarez.
Could the money and the player be Real Madrid's offer for Luis Suarez? {Ed002's Note - I don't know about such matters - is this Twitter or something. I have explained the situation as I understand it.}

29 Jun 2013 00:52:16
Thanks, just wanted the opinion of Ed002 and Ed030.
I got the rumours of £25 million and Jose Callejon from this site.

28 Jun 2013 10:54:13
Hi Eds, excuse my ignorance but could you enlighten me over some technicalities. if I understand it correctly, from what you were saying previously, it seems that 'the rules' don't allow Suarez to talk to Real Madrid directly (irrespective of an 'accidental meeting') but do allow for his agent to talk to Real Madrid directly. If this is the case then its simply ridiculous. Does this mean that Suarez could be in another room in the hotel talking to his agent via a mobile? Also, is Suarez, or any Liverpool player for that matter, a Liverpool employee or self-employed contracted to the club?
Thanks for your work on this site. {Ed002's Note - The players are employees of the club. The rules are clear and agents talking to clubs is how business is done. I am not going to get in to any bizarre scenarios with Suarez overhead in a helicopter and talking to his agent on a phone or whatever.}

28 Jun 2013 10:49:27
Hi Eds, How long do you see this HM stuff going on for? Do you think it will be another couple days an we'll here something? Or do u see it being way later in the window? {Ed002's Note - ICAQAT.}

I can't answer questions about time
Am I correct {Ed002's Note - Right.}

It's reported that he has not meet with lfc and that mino raiola who also looks after ibra & mario had a meeting with baldini

How about space?

Daveevad

Or the Space-Time continuum?

The real AG

28 Jun 2013 10:35:37
Would be happy if we got Sakho and Mkhitaryan, that is the kind of signing we should be making.

If Suarez goes it won't be the end of the world if we use the funds wisely, personally I would go and get Siem DeJong, Viktor Fischer and Christian Eriksen with the Suarez money.

As good as it sounds I can't see ajax wanting to part with 3 of their top stars . be like a club wanting gerard coutinho and sturridge
5 gold stars

28 Jun 2013 09:58:01
The more things change, the more they stay the same .

England have a must-win final group game at the Fifa, U20 World Cup to-morrow, captained by an LFC midfielder .

Last night, Tiago Ilori played the full 90 minutes for Portugal .

Llorente and Suarez both played for Spain but their standout performer was Jesus Joaquin Fernandez Saez De La Torre, do we have an interest in him Eds?

Have a look at his pass for the second goal .

I am sure all readers of this site know that Jesus Fernandez is also known as Suso, he has been head and shoulders better than anyone else at this tournement so far, which probably means we will loan him out to Wigan or Bolton next season .

28 Jun 2013 09:35:21
Is there anyway Liverpool can persuade suarez to stay? Can we buy players that will make him happy or is he determined to go to Real Madrid. {Ed052's Note - Why would we try to persuade him to stay? And no, it wouldn't happen}

Ed052.i don't normally disagree with eds BUT, ud persuade him to stay the same reason ud persuade a player to sign, in the thinking tht that player will make the difference to the team, no matter the sort of person he his he is undoubtedly immense quality as a footballer and tht in its self is reason to persuade him to stay.just like real are going to bend over backwards to get ronaldo to stay. u keep quality NOT sell it {Ed052's Note - At this moment in time, I wouldn't be trying to make Suarez stay. In fact, he has gone way too far this time, so I want him to go}

I agree that yes he's gone to far and he's not a very nice person with the stuff he's done!but all that aside and it is alot, he's a footballer and he should be judge on football he's probably in the top 5 in the world your not going to get anyone anywhere near as good.and when he's gone people are going to realise just what he brought to the team.just like when alonso left.IMO

Suarez is just a player and whether you like him or not? The bottom line is were not a top4 side and need to put the club 1st and keep him to attain top4 status.
The all important factor is Suarez ability on the pitch is massive for us.

28 Jun 2013 12:49:46
BigW, the reason Alonso leaving hurt us, is because under Rafa we played counter attacking football. That style only works if you have a deep lying playmaker who can take one touch to control and ping it forward into the channels or to the striker, and give the opposition no time to get back. His replacement, aquilani, never made the cut and we had no other player in our squad who could do that, except Gerrard (but Rafa was insistent Gerrard played behind Torres, due to the fact he was told he couldn't sign Jovetic, Mata or Silva to play there). Therefore, we had nobody to spring the counter attacks, and the team fell apart. Alonso was the heart of the team.
Now Gerrard has become the heart of the team, and in my opinion, he was our best player by a country mile last season. We created lots of chances as a team though. Unfortunately, 187 of those fell to the man with 11% conversion rate. Suarez is not the heart of the team. If he is taken out, we play the exact same style, and just have somebody else in his place to bang in the goals (like Sturridge did). People bang on about needing a Suarez replacement, but we don't. We have sturridge already. We just needed to sign a back up (Aspas/Borini), and then 3 attackers to play behind him, who suit his strengths (Coutinho/Alberto/Mkhitaryan(/Asaps)).

I don't care if we sell Suarez for £35m tbh. he's over rated, and only breaks up our attacks with his greed, and lack of a footballing Brain. He's erratic. He'll either do something amazing in a moment of sheer brilliance (about 20% of the time) or he'll lose possession and get himself booked or have a go at a team mate (80% of the time). Let him go. He's dragged the club through the dirt. Alonso may return when Gerrard retires (which may be sooner than you think, 35 I reckon). Alonso has never had many injuries, and he's got a much better brain than Gerrard, so doesn't rely on his pace or power. He'd be a great Pirlo-esq signing in 2 years time to add experience in the middle, and repalce the retiring Gerrard (as Alonso will still only be 33 and he'll easily play to 37). If Gerrard goes till he's 37, Alonso will be 35 by then, and probably won't ever return.

The Suarez worship needs to calm down though. We make him look good, not the other way around. Even Uruguay build their team around him. He has to be the biggest fish, so I'd truly love to see him at Madrid. Ronaldo/Bale will love his attitude of "pass it to me every time", I'm sure!

YNWadam. it says a lot when us, ajax, and his country build aa team around him, these are manages with a greater knowledge of football than me u and any of the eds on here!thats why there managers. real don't ome calling for over rated players niether do the other 4 teams interested so I think your argument is a non starter u go on about player worhip then bang on abaout alonso I mearly used alonso as when he went we wa shiiit!u don't score the calibre and amount of goals he does when your over rated I didn't see you bashing him before all this so don't start just because he might be going!

28 Jun 2013 14:35:45
YNWA adam.

So your point is suarez is not a great player. and Liverpool would be absolute fine without him.
OK. then We are not going to buy any replacement. we willa dress the other isses like LB, CB.
Your views will stand still. until the end of next season.
I will remember your name and you post buddy

Harry Scousser

28 Jun 2013 09:39:47
Eds heard we are interested in Andre Ayew of Marseille? Is this true? Thanks {Ed052's Note - Nothing}

28 Jun 2013 09:30:29
if(or when) Suarez is sold, LFC will have around 50mil.(probably) for transfers do you think they will sign some proven players?
henrik mkhitaryan is a sure thing(i think) if sell Luis, but other than him?
We still need a quality CB and maybe a RW {Ed002's Note - Liverpool certainly need to work on the defence. "Proven" is subjective.}

28 Jun 2013 08:59:45
Was, do you see jack Robinson challenging foe LB or will we look elsewhere for competition or even replace Enrique?

Cheers

RedLee

If you ask carra he would say replace! Didn't rate any of the left backs we've had in his team pick since he started on lfctv and went for Johnson in hat position. smack in the teeth for Enrique!

No, he didn't pick himself anywhere either

28 Jun 2013 08:55:26
Reading the papers today I see Spurs are linked with David Villa and Paulinho, whereas Liverpool are linked with people I am unfamiliar with, or at least only heard of the past few weeks. Does anyone else find his rather distressing?! I can appreciate that Villa had a bad injury and is in his twilight years, but surely having a name like him signing would lift the whole team.
Are Liverpool going to get someone with a big name in, or are they simply hoping to pick up a few promising talents? And also, why does it seem Spurs is suddenly a more attractive destination? They are not in Champs league either.

Does anyone remember Joe Cole signing.

Kopping a feel

28 Jun 2013 09:59:46
Big names doesn't guarantee you success.
But David Villa I am 100% confident will guarantee you 20+ goals a seaosn. simple as that.
he is prolific striker. his stakes would go on a record sales and his shirts would sell all over the world no matter his age is.
The guy looks so charm and he is loved by everyone across. {Ed002's Note - Shirt sales are a red herring, as for his looks, you do realise this isn't a dating site.}

28 Jun 2013 10:41:57
My gf keeps watching and watching David villa. once it was torres with his goal celebration.
Ed002, you are just too good

28 Jun 2013 10:53:08
Harry, if Villa can gurantee 20+ goals a season why are they shipping him out?
He is 31 soon to be 32, with over 100 000 a week and would cost over £ 10 million.
If David Villa who has never played in the PL and and seems to never regained the form he had before he got injured can gurantee 20+ goals.
Am 100% sure Sturridge can hit 35+ if he stays injury free.
No way ever would David Villa hit 15 PL goals let alone 20+
This ain't Tahiti Son.

[The only REDS]

The only reds

If you knew about football you would know Daniel can't stay injury free

28 Jun 2013 11:52:54
And if you knew how to read you would have saved yourself the embarrassment as I said IF he stays injury free.
It's all speculation, Villa is not coming here and Sturridge could stay injury free. Like Agger? Like Gerrard? You're clueless no name, keep your day job and learn how to read.
Btw wanna know what my day job is? Football.

The only REDS

28 Jun 2013 12:48:38
The only reds.
They are shipping him out coz, they have other players in that position. villa is a consitenant performer in his career.
barca never depends upon villa for goals. they have abundance in them.
look at the amount of goals he scored in spain with valencia and barca.
Y did Ronaldinho left barca?. coz.he wanted to go. If they kept him. they would have won everything every year.
things doesn't work like that. he is 31 and Barca doesn't wanna pay the wages to a 31 year old player when they have younger players in that position, BUT NOTHING RELATED TO HIS TALENT.
how on earth u can compare him with sturridge?
11 goals with Liverpool in 6 months is what u actually know about sturridge.
where were you when he was warming the bench at chelsea?
David villa is on a different level.
over 128 goals for valencia and 50 goals for barca.
what else you want him to prove?

ok then tell me 25 mill for mickey who never played in EPL. will hit another 25 goals for us?

But I can guarantee you that villa will hit 20+ goals in any league.

28 Jun 2013 14:09:56
the only reason you have heard of paulinho is because of the confederations cup otherwise you would have no Idea who he was

28 Jun 2013 14:51:48
�to the last poster.
heard countinho?. assaidi?. asaps?. luis alberto?

28 Jun 2013 08:16:20
Lots of smoke screens.

-HENDRICHT MKHITARYAN wants the move to Liverpool, but the club is now trying to get as much as they can for him since there are other clubs now interested. This is beginning to price him out of LFC's "common sense" bracket.
-Downing could very well move to villa + about 6m for Benteke. Villa's resigned to losing him but need to aquire some quality and experience in their squad. One of the Liverpool youngsters could also be thrown in on loan as part of the deal.
-Reina looks set to move to Barca, as talk of Mignolet being "competition" for Reina is just LFC trying to keep Reina's value up. Because once viewed as "not needed anymore". Clubs would think its bargain basement.
Suarez to Madrid seems obvious but Suarez has done so much damage to his own price tag that LFC is stuck in the predicament. If LFC hold onto him-they will get no value on the pitch, and he'll probably get himself suspended for half the season, disrupt the group, disrupt team tactics(note hi talent singlehandedly saved us in the 1st half of the season when we had no team, but after January we played better as a team without him), dropping his value even further. OR, accept a bid much lower than LFC's valuation as no club would bid his true value because they know he wants out. This could end with Madrid getting a bargain for the morally impaired talent and Liverpool would do well to get back what they paid for him.
YNWA
The Pirate

What are you talking about?
You need to take that patch off your eye The Pirate.
Suarez was excellent away at City and Arsenal. He only missed several games at the end, which were meaningless really.
The Juicer

Long contract = Liverpool in control of price.

RobW

Surely that values Downing at over £19M.

28 Jun 2013 10:03:58
Suarez was prolific every min he played for us. home or away.
some of the goals he scored wide out right side with his outside right foot. is genius.
I mean 291 successful dribbles in almost 40+ gmaes is an outstanding figure.
He is a one man army who can easily change the course of a game. such an impact he produces every time on field.
Whos going to take some freekick next seaosn.
we have scored atleast 5-6 goals alone from freekick last seaosn.

Guess work, and not an educated one at that.

The real AG

SUAREZ individually was excellent. But the way the entire team played together was better without him in the squad. The shape the movement and the passing were better.
Long contract means Liverpool have to pay the wages whether he plays or not. It means he can throw a tevez like tantrum and go play golf! And Liverpool get NO value out of him on the pitch.

28 Jun 2013 10:38:58
Is this the entire team that got bullied by everton at anfield.
yes we did score goals without him. against?
QPR.
FULHAM
and an awful Newcastle?

Man. did we beat an arsenal side without him last seoasn?
we struggled against udinse, we also struggled against some teams in Europa, unltill he came as sub.

I feel you place way too much importance on free kicks there Harry. let's just focus on scoring from open play first, then worry about free kicks later.

And anyway, whos to say one of our new signings won't be even better at taking a free kick than Suarez? Plus Stevie G is still hanging around and he's no mug in the dead ball situation.

KiwiRed

28 Jun 2013 11:05:18
Oh Harry. No way was Suarez prolific each min. Home and Away. No way. At all. Not even remotely close.
There were 10-15 games last season he couldn't hit a barn door. Zenit away, Westbrom Home, Swansea Away, Reading away, United away, United at home, Westham home, Man. City away
Etc. Etc. Etc. Actually in all these games his overall performance was ****
Freekicks? Suarez had 3 brilliant freekicks. Not that much to cry about.
Who could take them?
Gerrard? Coutinho? Aspas? Luis Alberto?
All are better freekick takers.

28 Jun 2013 14:38:29
to the last poster

Gerrard? Coutinho? Aspas? Luis Alberto?
All are better freekick takers.

I bet you if we socre 5 or more goals from free kicks from all of hem combined.

harry scousser

28 Jun 2013 07:46:26
aspas will be Liverpool starting 11 players
because of his jessy number (no.9).
I can't get the fact that the number 9 will be a sub

What is this fascination with shirt numbers from what seems like every second poster? Shirt numbers have absolutely nothing to do with how someone performs.

28 Jun 2013 10:04:54
Shirt nos do have a huge impact on the game.
Can you imagine maradona no. 76?

Rubbish. Shirt number have no impact what so ever when a game of football is being played.

The real AG

28 Jun 2013 11:14:41
What Harry?
That's just so so stupid. Think before you type.
Daamn, do you even think at all?
Sure, players numbers have a huge impact on the game? eeeh, What?How?
Yes if Maradona had the nr. 78 would that have made him a bad player? It was the nr. on his back that made him that good? Ridiculous.
Get real, it doesn't matter at all. Maybe shirt sales etc. But LFC don't make money of that. Its a set sum that doesn't change, even if you sell 1 shirt or 10 million.
I don't know where you get your football "knowledge" but you should not speak of things you don't understand.

[The only REDS]

28 Jun 2013 14:42:11
To the reds.

I know your frustuation, you got hammerd by me on an above post.
Every position have a defeinte No. 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 they represnt your best and most important player.
messi, ronaldo, tores, drogba, rooney, bale, lampard,

traditionally strikers usually wear no.9, no10 for playmaker, no 11 7, for wingers. No8 midfielder.

it doesn't matter how you play and the leevl you play, But its still a very important no.

Fernando torres Liverpool no.9 once. he can't be a Liverpool 99.

28 Jun 2013 07:26:34
Ironic how if Jonjo Shelvey goes to Swansea as rumoured, he will be playing in Europe again!

28 Jun 2013 07:22:35
Eds, great site and quick couple of questions.

People keep asking if we will go for all these different strikers. Correct me if I'm wrong but surely we don't need and won't go for anymore with Sturridge, aspas, borini and Alberto?

Also if Micky falls through, do you know of any other targets in that position?

Cheers {Ed002's Note - (a) It depends what BR wishes to do with Yetsil etc.. (b) Shakhtar are awaiting a caveat free offer and Liverpool know what they need to do to sign HM. If they decide to walk away I don't know what they would look to do next at this time.}

Ed pardon my ignorance but what is a "caveat free offer"? {Ed002's Note - An offer without any caveats (e.g. restrictions) related to the offer. What people want is something firm on the table that they can say yes or no to after a bit of negotiation.}

28 Jun 2013 01:42:40
Toure, Aspas, Alberto & Mignolet in, with carroll out = very good business for only £8m net spending so far.

Expect Kevin Gameiro to come in soon for £8.5m (lfc currently having contract negotiations with his reps).

Daniel Sturridge will be the main focus and Gameiro is someone to keep Daniel on his toes. {Ed002's Note -

28 Jun 2013 00:46:46
Hi Ed's,

Honestly speaking, who would you think would be a better buy or value for money for Liverpool; Micky or Eriksen?

Cheers {Ed001's Note - Micky.}

28 Jun 2013 07:33:27
But Ed, when you buy a player for almost 25 mill.
he should be world beater, if you wanna sell him for a profit.
Errikson would come at 12 mill.

Eriksen is inconsistent.

I think what ed is alluding to is that he does not rate Eriksen, not everyone does.

Nevada

28 Jun 2013 11:19:15
Not everyone goes by FootballManager like Harry Scoussssser does either.
Harry it's a fantasy game. Get off fantasy island.

28 Jun 2013 00:11:18
Hi,

Can someone please tell me are LFC looking to sign any defensive/ holding midfelder?
- Not comfortable to see Gerard in than position.
- Allen is not up there yet and struggles.
- Lucas has lost a yard and has had a poor season.
- Plus none of them seem to last a complete season given their injury record and commitment towards international duty.
Alonso back maybe?

What about our most improved midfielder henderson

Lucas statistically was one of the best dm's in Europe this season so not sure what your on about, Gerrard plays a deeper roll now as he is slowing down and can't quite do what he use to game in game out so is more suited to the alonsoesque type role.

I agree we need another dm but I'm not sure wanyama is the answer. I'd rather look to lassana diarra as temporary cover or someone in that mould, just as cover till we figure out if coady can make the step up.

Fester

Fester is correct about Lucas, I did a post about him not too long ago showing that he was in the top 5 performing dm in Europe


Nevada

28 Jun 2013 10:12:39
dubered.

henderson?. DM?. Man. that's the only possible position left for him to play.

28 Jun 2013 11:36:11
Get a life Harry you are clueless.
Jordan Henderson was one of our best players.
$odd off.

27 Jun 2013 23:49:22
Yo! Who's going to be watching the mighty reds v's Celtic in August?
I don't usually do pre-season games, but I'm so excited about the new season that I've sold all my worldly goods so that I can afford a night in the travelodge, and a couple of pints in Dublin!
Can't wait for You'll never walk alone!

Yep looking forward to it