Liverpool Banter Archive May 28 2014

28 May 2014 23:40:32
Do you guys know if the paper talk about Borini leaving are accurate, if so has there been any replacements suggested? Thanks

Alexandre Lacazette and Henug-Min Son are forwards and have been looked at.

If we are selling Aspas and Borini I wouldn't be surprised if went for Bony. Sturridge won't play twice a week all season so Bony & Sturridge would play roughly equal time over the campaign. Borini's loan will have made him a player in demand for teams in the group below the top 6 like Sunderland, Swansea & Southampton.

Just because we put a price tag on him doesn't mean we are selling. It just means that's the price for him & it will get rid of any interest that ins't deemed serious by LFC's valuation of the player.

28 May 2014 23:13:47
hi eds

ive read that lallana has had a few good seasons for southampton, a few of them would have been in the lower leagues, so does this rate him more than what we are offering, I mean in the lower leagues the players are not as good as the players in the prem or in europe, especially in the champs league, so do you really think he is good enough for us to play in the champs league, please don't get me wrong he is a good player, but charlie adam had a few good seasons before we bought him and look how he turned out for us, now i'm not saying lallana is the same as charlie adam but there is similarities between them they both played well in lower leagues the championship and they had good seasons in the prem, I don't know about charlie adams role before he came to us, but I do know that lallana had a free role to play any where on the pitch and the southampton team was built around him, if he came to Liverpool he would not have the same roving role plus our team will not be built around him,

The problem with Charlie Adam was that he was issued no defensive responsibility at Blackpool which meant he could do what he likes in midfield, while Lallana, operating a similar position of freeness also helps on the defensive end tracking runners. Adam has no pace while Lallana has, both have similar passing abilities(Adam's was great in fairness but Lallana is better). Something tells me Lallana would be a great buy and only Rodgers and Ayre will know if he is worth the fee requested but personally I'd love to see him at the club

Lallana is a way better player than Charlie Adam ever was.

Poor comparison, imo. Charlie Adam couldn't physically move whereas Lallana buzzes around the place and gets involved. I'd be surprised if over 20% of fans thought Charlie Adam was going to be a good signing for us.

28 May 2014 22:34:30
Hi all, for two years I've been reading posters raving about this guy Tello, is he really that good that you want him ahead of Kono or Shaquri and others.
I haven't seen him but also have read much if anything about him apart from being on the wish list of so many of our fans.

Eds, is he really as good as what some are saying here?

{Ed002's Note - No idea.}

28 May 2014 21:37:46
Does anyone know when the Champions League Patches for next season's shirt will be available to order on the website?
Cheers

Am on 20 a day already.

28 May 2014 21:36:09
Dream transfer dealings this summer would be

J. Martinez
A. Moreno.
A. Sanchez or X. Shaqiri.

I know long shot but would certainly strengthen first team considerably.

28 May 2014 20:51:56
Hi Eds

What on earth are Liverpool doing concerning the Adam Lallana deal, are Spurs going to steal yet another player from under our noses?

{Ed002's Note - RTP.}

28 May 2014 21:23:25
Lallana to Spurs doesn't make sense. The player has clearly said the ambition to play in CL. Spurs have no assurance of top 4 finish next season. He is 26. Once the contract is signed, It would be difficult for him to move out, If Spurs fails to reach top 4 next season.

Lallana to Spurs makes sense if Spurs are the ones willing to meet Soton's valuation and the player is willing to make the move and agree terms.

Yes, the one thing which will improve the Spurs team is yet another midfielder to fill up their bench.

Perhaps Lallana is not seen as a priority to LFC and the bid reflects that?
Perhaps they don't think he is a £25m payer. I happen to agree, he's average.

Some people need to wake up. Just because you want Lallana, doesn't mean Liverpool see it as a priority. Just because we've bid on Lallana, doesn't mean he is the number 1 target.

Just chill out, it's still May. Let the club take care of business, stop expecting a revolving door at Melwood. Sometimes you don't need 2 dozen new players every 6 months. Perhaps such a reckless transfer policy doesn't help consistency.
If we don't get Lallana, I won't be losing any sleep. Who cares if he goes to spuds, he's not even that good. A modern day Paul Stewart.

Lallana will view his options before any move takes place, he is keen to see what his former and possibly 'new' manager would have to offer him? Lfc remain favourites but spurs have yet to throw their hat in the ring…. But they will

But he`s not willing to go there by some accounts so the deal won`t happen.

Ken Aguero - thanks for saving me the time to write pretty much exactly what you did. I totally concur.

Ken Aguero for PM! Finally someone who talks a bit of sense. Can't say I value Lallana any where close to £25m. I like the lad, and think he would fit in to our style of play really well, but I'm happy we show that we won't be held to ransom over players. If they don't wanna budge on price we should move on to the next target, which I'm pretty sure there will be a number of! YNWA

Well I think he is a good player but like Ken, I would not want to fork out £25/30 million for him. For that money there are better players. Or for less, just as good players.

"A modern day Paul Stewart"? Now that is a kick in the teeth. :-)

Wow. A modern day Paul Stewart. Poor Fella.
I would be interested in ED001's take on this as Paul Stewart was his favourite player of all time:)
I think that the Paul Stewart jibe apart that Ken Aguero is absolutely right.

{Ed001's Note - I disagree completely on that assessment, Lallana can actually kick the ball in the direction he intended. Stewart was just a big lump, and had no skill, while Lallana is a skilful player. Having said all that, I don't feel the need to spend big on Lallana right now. I would rather see us pursue Konoplyanka.}

Lallana is probably one of the most technically gidted players in the league, nobody knows what is his stronger foot. plays in the att midfield role don't come cheap, people moaning about the fee that's not upto lallana its up to his club who aren't pushed to sell, does. do people think ozil is worth 40 million because i'd rather lallana than him. he's proven in the league the last to seasons and I beleive no more than 25mill. he works his socks off he's very good technically and doesn't seem to be a primadonna and with a coaching from rodgers and better players around him I think he can become even better

Vote Aguero!

28 May 2014 20:33:56
Reet2107,

Are you picking on my mate Remy?

lol

28 May 2014 20:49:25
DG

Where were you all these days?. Missed your post. You are free to buy Remy. Permission granted. lols

Hi H-F,

just been chilling mate.
I have popped in everyday just to see if you boys are behaving, but I haven't posted, lol.

plus been taking a lot of stick on Gooners page (all good banter), because I want Wenger to sign Remy, lol.

I've posted a couple times on the arsenal page but they don't show up. I'm not wanted :(. That's fine, time to hate arsenal again!! Jokes.

No mate I am just wanted to ask you how's life in the remy treatment facility?

28 May 2014 19:52:15
Would godin be of interest? Or Miranda?

{Ed002's Note - Not to Liverpool at this time.}

28 May 2014 18:43:48
Just heard that the Melwood Mercedes van has been booked in for a service in readiness for all the new players medicals

28 May 2014 21:53:32
What about the club helicopter?

To make a cheeky bid, you have to sign the paperwork using a pen that is nestled snuggly between both butt cheeks. I am not sure where all this confusion is coming from. It's obvious

Made me laugh daveevad1

Surely we've booked out the local chippy too for negotiations?

that's where Alonso, Mascherano, Torres, and Aguero on a few occasions were all spotted.

28 May 2014 17:59:19
I hope that if Rodgers wants Lallana then the club can seal the deal before we miss out - this spurs chat is sounding too familiar. The idea of an England midfield lining up in red next season was sitting very comfortably with me. Whoever BR wants, let's hope we can act positively to hit our transfer targets - there's no point offering the extra incentive of Champions League if we can't complete a deal.

Liverpool won't pay for lallana
You have already seen in previous windows how slow Liverpool are to act
Then their aim is to go for alternatives, hence players who will struggle at the start of the season and end up on the bench the whole time
I guarantee spurs will make do on their targets quickly and if it is lallana or konoplyanka it's already over before lfc started

And if u don't agree with my comment which is fine. U have already seen lfc in action in past windows and how people from clubs say lfc offer low prices and take too long in the buying process

At least players aren't rejecting us left, right and centre like they are you guy's though nobster.

I agree with lobster. We really need to change our approach to transfers, especially towards our prime targets who will significantly improve the squad.

We need quality, if that means only affording 2 players then so be it.

28 May 2014 19:51:26
red lobster, the reason spurs managed to sort their transfers out relatively quickly last summer was because of the Bale money and their willingness to pay the asking price (or close), on their targets. On reflection, it would appear the many of those prices were inflated as they have not set the league alight, barring possibly Eriksen. Remind me of where we and Spurs finished in the league this season again. IMO Spurs blew most of it instead of negotiating the best deal for the club. As a Liverpool fan, yes it is at times frustrating but we simply cannot afford to do business like that anymore as we have in the past, we have to try and get value for money. The signings we have made that have perhaps not been as successful, will not likely be costly ones as we should recoup most, if not all, or more than we paid out, unlike our some of our past blunders in the transfer market. I doubt the same could be said of Spurs. If the price being asked for Lallana is not something we are willing to pay and we see it as being overpriced, we will look to negotiate, there is always going to be a danger as Ed002 has pointed out that we will risk peeing off the selling club by offering a ridiculously low amount but, those sorts of negotiations take time. If in the mean time someone comes in and offers the asking price, fair play to Southampton and we move on. Meanwhile we will (and should), consider our options for alternatives that would be more cost effective for any given role and also allow us to use our budget to strengthen other areas of the team. It is all about what is best for Liverpool long term, a tricky balance at times, but certainly not one where we just pay whatever is being asked for every player Brendan would like in his team just to get them in early in the window.

28 May 2014 20:25:32
We ll still finish above spurs.

28 May 2014 22:02:03
Maybe just 15 points ahead Manchester United this season might scrape into top 3 with that.

Brucelee is right. We will not just pay the asking price just to please some fickle fans. Nobody negotiates that way otherwise you`ll be shafted everytime and go bankrupt in a week. The Eds have repeatedly said that we`re losing serious money everyday BUT obviously, no one seems to care about that as long as we "just pay the asking price". We will offer what we think is right and if that`s ot enough then they can keep him and we move on to other targets. I think if we have 25m to spend on any type of forward, it should be Alexis Sanchez. He`s potential is enormous and can play anywhere along the front line and on either wing. He`s just a beast.

Red Nobster,

LFC won't OVERPAY for Lallana and I have no problems with it.

28 May 2014 17:06:49
Ed002

Would like to hear your thoughts on Liverpool/Ian Ayre's approach to the transfer business.

The ridiculously derisory, unacceptable bids, penny pinching and dilly dallying.
Dempsey, Mkhitaryan, Salah, Konoplyanka are all typical examples.
Now you've also informed of us of "unacceptable" verbal offer made for Lovren.

And just right now we are dilly dallying around the Lallana issue. Southampton has quoted us a price. Either we intend meeting it or we don't. Either way, there must be a position: walk away, or pay it if we pay it, over and done with.

Once it was clear that Southampton weren't going to budge on Shaw, Chelsea moved on to look elsewhere. Decisive. Why do we waste considerable time "haggling" but eventually agree to the asking price. only to find though that it's too late?

Ed002, I really would like to hear your take on this. Especially the ridiculously low bids. How do selling clubs take to LFC/Arye's conduct? Does it have the effect of making selling clubs less inclined to deal with us?
Or is our approach actually common practice?

Cheers mate

{Ed002's Note - Firstly, I don't know Ian Ayre at all so I will try and stick to what I know to be correct rather than drop in to conjecture and supposition.

However, I can answer for each of the players you mention: (a) Liverpool were accused of tapping up Clint Dempsey which is why Mr Werner and Mr Ayre issued apologies to Fulham in order to have them withdraw their complaint to the FA. A transfer was not going to happen. (b) Mkhitaryan was never going to happen due to the price being too high and Shakhtar wanting a single payment. It would have been dependent on the sale of Suarez. (c) As for Salah, the club's valuation of the player was miles away from what Basal would consider acceptable - hence there being no negotiation. This was made worse by Brendan Rodgers saying that they were not sure if the player was good enough for England and that is why they would not offer anything like a reasonable amount of money on such a high-risk purchase. The player and his club both, quite rightly, found this offensive. (d) The Dnipro owner was always likely to want to keep Konoplyanka - you cannot blame Mr Ayre for not being able to resolve that.

I am pretty sure that I explained all of these at the time.

You can add to that: (e) Willian was a player Liverpool were interested in, but they did not offer enough money to buy him. (f) Costa was not going to happen without selling Suarez - because of the money and because he was seen as his replacement. (g) Sigurdsson decided to sign for Spurs instead of Liverpool because he felt they had a better chance of giving him Champions League football - he was wrong - but how many still lust after him?

And don't forget the players he has done the deals for since Brendan Rodgers arrived: Daniel Sturridge, Kolo Touré, Tiago Ilori, Joe Allen, Fabio Borini, Mamadou Sakho, Luis Alberto, Iago Aspas, Simon Mignolet, Coutinho, Oussama Assaidi, Samed Yesil and the loans of Victor Moses, Nuri Sahin and Aly Cissokho. I appreciate many of these players are not favourites of the fans, but you cannot blame Ian Ayre for that - he doesn't pick the players but he did get the transfers done.

You are right about the seeming indecision in going in with a very low offer and not following it up - it will not help anyone and it can make it difficult to negotiate sensibly later. You mention Chelsea and typically they are very good - perhaps assisted by their chief negotiator being many fold better looking than Ian Ayres. However, they too have had notable failures over prolonged negotiations for players - Falcao, Cavani, Isco and Reus spring to mind.

As for how selling clubs feel about low bids, generally they see it as simply wasting their time and it makes it more difficult to do business between the clubs in the future. I am also aware that a number of senior personnel within EPL clubs found what John Henry said about an Arsenal bid in public last year to be very disrespectful.

Liverpool perhaps need to become a little more humble in the way they do their transfer business.}

28 May 2014 19:49:42
Ed002
I don't know how you find the time, but many thanks for such insightful and detailed answers. Could Liverpool afford you as an advisor or does the rodeo work get in the way?

{Ed002's Note - They can't afford me without selling Suarez.}

28 May 2014 19:50:01
And don't forget the players he has done the deals for since Brendan Rodgers arrived: Daniel Sturridge, Kolo Touré, Tiago Ilori, Joe Allen, Fabio Borini, Mamadou Sakho, Luis Alberto, Iago Aspas, Simon Mignolet, Coutinho, Oussama Assaidi, Samed Yesil and the loans of Victor Moses, Nuri Sahin and Aly Cissokho. I appreciate many of these players are not favourites of the fans, but you cannot blame Ian Ayre for that - he doesn't pick the players but he did get the transfers done.

Ed002. Magnificent.That part was just brilliant.

28 May 2014 19:50:23
The only thing to add to that reply, and as I think Ed002 highlighted in the part about Sigurdsson, is that Ayre is not only competing with financial constraints, he was also competing against a tarnished reputation of our club. Hardly anyone outside of the LFC family felt we had what it took to get in the CL this season, it's quite hard to put together a financially & competitively attractive package when you've been out of CL football for 4 odd years.

I think in fairness to IA people don't realise that the deals we've completed have been generally good: Sturridge; Coutinho; Sakho; Ilori; these will all go on to be top top players. Konoplyanka was basically signed, but their owner didn't want to sell full stop. What could he do about that? We met their price & submitted everything with amicable time, but their owner wouldn't budge. Willian and Mkhitaryan were overpriced, if we had signed Willian would sterling have found the kind of form he has this year? Mkhitaryan has had a mediocre year in Germany. Just calm down with the hate.

I agree with ed in that waiting for rivals to bid is a stupid policy but it's early days. Lallana was always going to be expensive as shfc, relatively speaking, don't need the money.

28 May 2014 19:51:09
Are you the chief negotiator for Chelsea Ed002?

{Ed002's Note - Marina Granovskaia is marginally cuter than me.}

28 May 2014 20:51:25
Ed002

Thanks mate, very illuminating that. You are right about many things. And sure enough, Ayre has had his fair share of success in some deals (Sturridge, Coutinho, Sakho etc) and can't be completely crucified.

But the big concern for me remains our general attitude to transfer business and, of course, the indecision and dilly dallying.
Other piss off selling clubs and making a laughing stock of us, I don't know what purpose it serves.
And I think this is what irks many fans. not that they have anything against Mr Ayre.

I personally am off the view that Mr Ayre remains the most least suitable man for this position.
We crying out for proper leadership.
And you spot on again Ed, there's a need for greater humility and tact in the club.

Ayre am most concerned about. His very public "different squad next season" remarks prior to the (crucial) Chelsea game demonstrated the spread of the man's tact. They may have slipped under the radar, but they were certainly damaging. and, quite frankly, stupid.

Knowing our history, folk would do well not to set too high their expectations for this summer. Come September 1st may likely be in a meltdown after yet ANOTHER transfer window of abject failure.

Lastly Ed, do Chelsea have a similar structure, with someone in a position similar to Ayre's heading transfers/negotiations?
They tend to handle matters better, with more favorable outcomes than not.
Spurs also, are not too bad themselves in their approach.

{Ed002's Note - Chelsea has a number of folks who are authorised to deal with such matters but primarily responsibility falls to Marina Granovskaia.}

A good post and reply from ed.but I always feel we get our pants pulled down in the transfer market buying and selling.I would live a true European legend to spearhead our transfer dealing instead of Ayre popping along on his bike

29 May 2014 17:35:11
Ed002 surely you could become our chief negotiator?your fee could be free hairstyling from kirikou throughout the year
on a serious note do we have any female negotiators?that would certainly help

{Ed002's Note - No reet, I don't think Liverpool has any female negotiators.

29 May 2014 17:37:34
She is a hottie Ed002!
We can't all be stunning

29 May 2014 17:42:08
Ed002 - Marina Granovskaia

I've just searched for her on t'internet and have to say, I think I'd be more likely to sell to her than Mr Ayre.

{Ed002's Note - There you go.}

28 May 2014 15:42:32
Any update on the Can situation Ed please or is there no change.

{Ed002's Note - Nothing has changed.}

28 May 2014 15:33:02
Hello all Reds, had a debate with a few fans at work and the subject was, what can we class as progress next season? finishing second this season was a fantastic effort that succeeded all our expectations, however if we don't win it next year you can't just say we have not progressed. The general hope was to get top 4 again and to progress far in all cup comps hopefully winning one, but would just finishing top 4 again be seen as success?

Top 3 with cl quarters
although as long as we are in the top 4 I would be happy

I think finishing top 4 again, after having the CL to play in as well would be a good start. Progressing throught the group stages in the CL would also be a good target to aim for. I would be happy if we managed these. Also, some progress on reducing the loss (which I know CL will assist with) whilst keeping the stadium development moving. Not too much to ask is it?

28 May 2014 13:48:47
Do you know the future of any of our loan players. Assaidi we know is ongoing with Stoke and is seems Borini is going to fight for his place, but what about Wisdom, Coady and Ilori. Back out on Loan, sell them or Fighting for places?

Thanks
Dq

{Ed002's Note - In most cases it is too early to say.}

I read Coady may be off to Wolverhampton.

28 May 2014 14:24:04
I expect Wisdom and llori to move for another Loan. Aspas would off, Which makes Borini stay a must, unless we bring in another striker which seems unlikely.

28 May 2014 12:18:40
Hi eds, its been too long hope your all well.im so so proud of are boys fighting all the way to the end in the prem, well done lads.in lfc we trust.hope we get over that line and lift the prem this year.right my point is eds. I would like to see us use assaidi in a deal for shawcross or begovic, shawcross would be a very good buy for me a monster of a defender.and begovic is the keeper we should have got in the 1st place.thanks eds.
jay essex red for life red till dead

28 May 2014 12:31:42
Begovic would be an ideal one.

I agree with Begovic, but not on Shawcross.

28 May 2014 12:04:38
Seen lots a sites stating we may be looking at javi Martinez
Possibility eds?

{Ed002's Note - No.}

28 May 2014 11:43:13
Hi Eds,

I have used the search function and have not really found an answer. what are the stumbling blocks in regards to adam lallana? Is it just the valuation of the player being £25 million? or is there any other obstacles? I am just wondering as I have a feeling that Liverpool are going to miss out on him. Also is Loic Remy just trying to create interest himself or is there genuine interest in him? IMO I don't think he is what we need!
Thanks in advance.
Hope to hear back!

{Ed002's Note - Putting aside your guess at a price, Liverpool's offer was deemed to be totally unacceptable to Southampton.

Remy may well move on this summer and QPR know they will struggle to keep him. Arsenal is perhaps an option. Interest from other clubs, such as Liverpool, at this time would seem to be no more than speculative.}

We keep reading about Liverpool missing out on players when it is really a case of players missing out on Liverpool. It may well happen but as yet none of the players that Liverpool have 'missed out' on have set the world alight. There will be new players coming in so let us wait and see who they are. We are going in the right direction and need players who will strengthen the squad. I don't know who they will be but I am sure that everything will be clear before the end of August.

28 May 2014 10:36:22
Reina & Agger->Napoli, Enrique->Southampton, Assaidi->Stoke, Aspas->Knackers Yard.
Could Skrtel be sold as well Eds? Zenit or who's interested? & Lucas? Inter is it?

Thanks!

{Ed002's Note - Try the search function.}

Ok can do, really my question was whether Skrtel & Agger could both be sold?

{Ed002's Note - For now assume Skrtel stays.}

Imo Skrtel needs to go and probably BR may feel the same, hence the interest in Lovren. Lovren and Sakho will be first choice with Ilori and Toure as backup. Skrtel's simply a mistake waiting to happen and can't play in a high line defensive system because he has no pace whatsoever.

28 May 2014 14:20:21
Skertel Unfortunatly have become BR's fav. don't see him moving out.

Agree with all that IB. So, Skrtel 'stays' until Lovren is bought.

O & he's not his 'fave' but was preffered to Toure after his nervous gaffs, so only through lack of options. Skrtel had a good season but just doesn't have the attributes BR wants & isn't going to improve any at this stage. If Zenit or somebody made a good offfer it should be thanks & farewell martin.

28 May 2014 10:23:10
Cant complain Southampton much, Heard we are asking a huge sum for Assaidi with Stoke.

Really? Couple of days ago you argued that we didn't pay a "huge" amount for Ilori, but did for Sakho.

28 May 2014 12:38:59
The Real AG

Ofcourse mate, I did. Assaidi was bought at 3 mill and had nothing. Infact No impact. and selling him at 7 mill is ridiculous.
llori was bought at 7 mill and was sent out for a loan and would be going again for another loan. But If we were to sell him. We won't recieve 14 mill for him. No chance.

I genuinely don't want you to think i'm having a dig at you but don't understand your logic. what is the problem with asking for more than assaidi is worth? we start a 7mil and end up getting 5mil perhaps. if we ask for 5mil they will try and knock us down further.

take chelsea as an example. they bought kevin de bruyne for less than 10mil I think, he barely touches a ball fo chelsea but they get 17mil for him.

david luiz, clearly a man not in jose's plans but they manage to get 50mil for the guy.

i'm all for getting the best price we can.

Why is selling Assaidi for & million ridiculous?

If we can get some extra cash for the player, wouldn't it be helpful?

28 May 2014 13:57:32
87 Red

I agree, But then let's all agree to Southampton. Starting at 30 mill and ending up at 25 mill which they would be happy.

I have seen many ( including myself) point against southampton for demanind way too much.

Southampton might be successful, As he is an excelent player. Assaidi isnt. We would be happy to see stoke interested in him.

28 May 2014 13:55:12
The Real AG

I would be extreamly happy to get an extra million by sales.
Two points to consider.

1. Assaidi isn't a world beater. We bought him at 3.5 mill (the whole world knows it).
2. Stoke is the only club who has shown some interest, They are not chelsea or City, As they would cough up what we ask them to.

What If stoke walks away and find another alternative at 5 mill to 7 mill?. Players Such as Sinclair or any decent wingers. Moses. which fits in their budget.

{Ed002's Note - Stoke is not the only club to show an interest.}

Harry Scousser,

Assaidi may not be a world beater, but he is a player Stoke, among others want. They need to meet our demands if they want the player or atleast come close to it.

Your last paragraph is conditional. They can walk away any time they want. Why aren't they going for Sinclair or Moses then? Maybe because they rate Assaidi better? Also, you have no idea how much Moses or Sinclair would cost. So, stop quoting numbers.

28 May 2014 16:55:14
The Real AG

So Tell me how much Moses who has been below average with Liverpool over a loan deal and Sinclair, who last kicked the ball in 2012 would cost?
15 mill right?. They have a settled player in Assaidi. He has started in 19 games and scored 4 goals (2 in league cup). They also aware of the price of the player and knows very well He isn't wanted at Liverpool.

I am convinced by you that we might get 7 mill for him. End of the story

28 May 2014 17:06:27
Ed002. I know you don't like to discuss the finances. Liverpool Echo reporting, we have asked stoke to pay a fee around 7 mill for Assaidi?
What you think the outcome?. Which are the other clubs interested in him?

{Ed002's Note - Use the search engine or read the posts - but you have to stop with all of these, you are just making a complete mess of the site again.}

28 May 2014 09:10:47
Gday Eds, quick one on freebies: Menez, Diego, Speroni, Liverpool any interest or who's in?

Thanks!

{Ed002's Note - Try the European pages - we are not going to answer questions about lists of free agents.}

Diego Ribas?

Yep, and he's just signed for Fenerbahce. Sunderland are interested in Speroni & Fiorentina are in for Menez. Right so I could've answered my own question, I guess it's time to stop farting about in transfer window world and do something related to my actual job. :(

Diego Ribas was an excellent player during his time at Werder Bremer. It all went downhill when he moved to Juventus, same for Krasic.

28 May 2014 08:07:20
Hi Ed002.

There are "reports from Germany" filtering through various social media platforms suggesting that the Bayern board will refuse to sell or loan Shaqiri. is there any truth to this?

Thanks a million for being the only reliable source for Liverpool related information I know of.

{Ed002's Note - I am really not interested in anything Twitter has to say but Bayern Munich want to sell the player.}

Credit where credit is due kizzle:

"Various social media platforms"

That's how you side step saying that it is from twitter.

Again, I'm not sure some people know how twitter works. The 'reports' came from TZ. A link to the Shaqiri article on their website was then tweeted, retweeted and talked about by a bunch of people.

When the articles from the English press usually come online at 22:30-23:00, they too are posted on twitter. If Tony Barrett wrote something it came from Tony Barrett despite the fact the link to the article happens to be on twitter.

28 May 2014 07:13:04
Hi eds
Saw a list of Southampton players who may be subject to offers.
Have any teams shown an interest in clyne, chambers or ward prowse?
These are some of the best players in my opinion
Thanks

{Ed002's Note - Yes but not Liverpool. Try asking on the Southampton page.}

Cheers eds just wondered as felt these were the kind of players that would suit our system and style of play, as well as fitting in with the profile of being young and likely to improve and increase their value as well as playing positions we need to strengthen
Cheers

28 May 2014 01:38:06
to all the fans who are going on about couthino

before he was injured he was playing great everyone on here was raving about him, now i'm hearing he's not pulling his weight, he does not track back he goes missing in games, he did not go missing against man city with his goal, oh yea BR moved him up to a more attacking role that's why he was in the box and played better, plus its a big ask for a 20 year old to come back from injury and play is socks off in our league, did some of you forget how hard it is for older players to adapt to the prem, if its hard for the more experienced and older players imagine how hard it was for him plus with his age I don't blame him for being tired at the end of the season, maybe next season he will get back to the way he was before his injury then you can all praise him again until he gets tired towards the end of the season, imagine him when he is 22 or 23, he will be one of our best players, some time I can't believe some fans on here having a go at some one who is that good for a 20 year old and he does win the ball a lot of the time, let's hope BR moves him more forward so he can show his talents off, and let's give him a chance to shine again

I'm with you, don't know why anyone would be complaining about Coutinho.

Was fantastic before Ashley Williams stuck his leg out. He also improved his defensive skills in the second half of the season. He can be hot and cold at times, but he is young. I think he just needs to do some weights in the gym top and bottom, to give him a bit more strength. That just takes time. The kid is class.

I don't think anyone is downing Coutinho. He's a top top talent. If he improves his goal scoring he's going to be the real deal one day. He just needs time, and doesn't need to start week in week out.

Good post, Mikey! Like one of the eds said, some of our fans just like trashing the players and have their easy targets. At the end of every season, Lfc must ship out everyone and make 15 new signings just to please them. Now, it`s Couts turn to get the business from these clueless "fans" saying he can`t do this nor that. They have conveniently forgotten that he`s just a kid who`s still learning the game and adapting to the prem league and w/o whose help we wouldn`t have made the progress we`ve made over the last 18 months. Couts isn`t going anywhere and these haters can go fly a kite. #Pathetic!

Tinho is going to be great. Why anybody would speak bad about a talent like that I'll never know, inconsistent maybe, but he's just a young kid. He's a shy lad but once he gets the confidence to run games himself, he'll be one of the best in the world

Completely agree. I cannot believe some guys want him sold.

My opinion on Coutinho is that he is brilliant but inconsistent.
Which is to be expected for a 21yr old.
He will continue to improve and that is frightening because on his day he is unplayable.
He just needs to have more of "his days|"

Coutinho is a magician
The way he manages to thread through balls I have not seen anybody else do in my short stint as w football fan
he maybe inconsistent but he is young

28 May 2014 09:24:10
No one wants Countinho to be sold. But he would face some stiff competition next seaosn and won't warrant a regular starting berth.

You need to buy glasses if you think no one wants Coutniho sold.

If he does well, he will warrant a regular starting berth. try not to be an arse all the time will you.

28 May 2014 10:27:45
There are and were many who wants Suarez to be sold? (Not related to performance, But his offfield Issues). what's your opinon?.
If you say No, then you might also need the same glasses

This thread has nothing to do with Suarez. This thread was about Coutinho, and how his performances weren't consistent enough. Again, try not to be arse.

Ps: You have a very unhealthy interest in Suarez.

He's my favourite player to watch in Liverpool shirt in the current squad and I can see him going on to be world class in a few years

It's a sad sad day when fans seem to think that it's ok to be slating players, young/old etc. the lad has obviously done his best in a 'pool jersey since he arrived from Inter. IMO his best position is behind the front 3. When we played 4-3-3 during the season & were ripping into teams 4, 5, 6 etc he was at the heart of it. His influence wained a small bit when we went to the 4-1-2-1-2 diamond formation. And coupled with his injury his form was bound to drop! I actually prefer the 4-3-3 formation myself, we just seem way more fluid in attack & our fullbacks weren't as exposed