Liverpool Banter Archive October 28 2010
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28 Oct 2010 23:18:48
Are there any actual rumours on here any more or just crap and banter for Ed? Can we put all this crap on the banter site and actually have rumours on the "rumours" site? I hate sifting through all this garbage about if Ed thinks the grounds-keeper's cat has fleas and if the price of turkey will plummet due to the global financial crisis. Throw the banter on the banter page. Thanks.
28 Oct 2010 22:19:36
I've heard all this rubbish about Liverpool not spending big on players. I'm pretty sure that NESV will be prepared to spend big on the right players - not £20.3m on 28 year-old strikers, and injury prone £18m signings.
Expect signings of players aged between 15 and 25 years old, getting the best young players around, and young established players.
Ryan Babel i hear has been touted out to teams for a January transfer for around £6m, with Roy wanting to spend any proceeds on Ibrahim Afellay.
I also heard that Daniel Agger and Roy have had quite the falling out, Agger disapproving of Roy's training methods and tactics, and Roy not happy with Aggers attitude. Hence rumours of Phillip Mexes doing the rounds.
Would love us to make a move for Keisuke Honda, a quality player - who's high profile in Asia could be taken advantage of commercially.
28 Oct 2010 22:17:15
In regards to
Out:jovanovic 4mil, maxi 4mil, poulsen 4mil. (all contribute nothing and at worst can be liabilities) in: mata 17mil, young 16mil, bent 16mil. would provide genuine width and attacking depth and quality we desperately need. all together would cost 'nesv' about 35mil investment and we would be contenders.
Why on earth would you waste money on Darren No composure Bent!? Its been proved time and again that darren bent is a good player in an average team but an average player in a good team! He isn't nearly good enough for liverpool ( and his touch is worse than babels) Ashley young is the most overated winger in the prem league, if he was really that good he would have been signed by one of the big clubs years ago
If we signed these players we would have wasted an awful amount of money and would certainly be no closer to the title!
Lee
28 Oct 2010 22:16:23
Ian handed his notice in, but they would not accept it.
Macca
28 Oct 2010 22:15:10
Hulk Hogan had a beard, actually loads of them do. .
28 Oct 2010 22:09:25
Liverpool rumours:
reina (age 33)(captain)
kelly wilson agger(30) mavinga
amoo shevley (hazard/ elia)
pacheco suso ngog
future liverpool. but would love to see shevley partner up with with wilsher someday. but they will do good in world cup. our future gerrad and lampard
reina
kelly wilson agger mavinga
amoo shevley wilsher (hazard/ elia)
pacheco suso
what you say ed?
{Editor's note - We do not know what will happen in the future, one of those players could have a bad injury, stunted growth, sold on ect}
28 Oct 2010 22:06:28
28 Oct 2010 21:29:44
OK so we are all waiting for some news about changes within the club, and nothing is happening, that's why we have seen some bickering on the site, is it not?
FIRST, a New Board will be appointed
SECOND, it's them who will restructure the club, they will make some rules to which the club will adhere to in the search for progression (not immediate success) they will? appoint a manager and take into account on who they may bring with them, backroom staff etc.
THIRDLY, They will all get together to decide on who we will sign, who we will keep and who will go.
I think the same as some others, we will be looking to spread our name across the parts of the World we have yet to break into, this will increase our revenue (good business) and all will be well! !
Success won't come quickly, I am guessing in 5 years we will be champions and have the strongest squad in the EPL and also back with the big boys of Europe
Have faith YNWA
exactly, , , and john henry likes to use sabremetrics to identify new players, , , now it might not work but he will give it a try first, , , like this guy says the board has to be sorted first, , no point rushing making bad decisions on the board, , then the new board have to get together, get to know one another give ideas on how things should be at liverpool, , talk to hodgson see his plans if they agree then they may wanna stick with him till summer, , if they don't agree with his plans or that hes capable of making the plans happen, , then they will look for new manager, , but even then they won't rush that, , cos they need to find the right man, instead of doing what united plan on doing hiring gurdiola from barca next summer i mean come on lol his first managing job and its with barca handed to him cos he was once a player there, , , ok hes won trophies with them but only cos the team he had gifted to him from rijkaard, , , he will go to united have no money cos there debts, , lose players to help pay the debt, , like rooney, , , , so no rushing for a manager, , the board need to wait till december that way theyve had a few months looking at all the possibilities. .
dave ynwa
28 Oct 2010 21:58:34
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Being an American baseball fan, I've been following the turnaround that John Henry and NESV have done with the Boston Red Sox closely. Basically, Henry used the same principles he used in his quant hedge fund, using advanced statistics (Sabermetrics) to find players that are undervalued based on traditional scouting (although, this method was really pioneered by Billy Beane with Oakland, read the book "Moneyball" if you are interested.)
Now as far as I'm aware, these advanced statistical methods don't yet exist in soccer, so they would need to be developed. .which I'm guessing would take longer than the Jan transfer window. But what I think this will mean right away is that Liverpool will focus on transfers to improve fundmentals (in baseball, pitching and defense; in soccer, I suppose that would translate to speed, passing, and defense).
If they do follow through with that philosophy as I suspect, here's my opinion on some of the players that LFC have been linked with (in no order):
1. Coentrao - Seems like he would be a perfect fit, young and good on both the defensive and offensive fronts. Let's hope the WC performance doesn't have Benfica asking for a king's ransom, because NESV will not overpay.
2. Hazard - another young talent, possible future franchise player. At the right price, they will pounce I think.
3. Benzema - 50/ 50. He does have immense talent and RM would likely let him leave for a discount price, but concerns over work ethic might scare them away.
4. Forlan - I don't think so here. The age is not a huge concern, but the boost from the WC performance will likely remove the value prop from him.
5. Lisandro - I would consider him under the radar compared to Forlan, and really not mentioned with the other strong Argentine strikers. Could be a great value pick that pays off big right away.
6. Ashley Young - I think Young is a good player, but Villa will ask too much.
7. Mata - Same as Ashley Young, although the financial situation in Valencia might give LFC some leverage on the fee. I wouldn't hold out hope.
8. Alexis Sanchez - Good fit for the team, but I have to think another powerhouse team will swoop in willing to overspend.
9. Afellay - I think he could be had a good price, and would fill the winger gap pretty well.
10. Honda - I only know what I saw of him and the WC, and it would bring some more Asian fans to LFC. .but I think that NESV's top priority right now is a quality product on the field, and I don't think Honda necessarily meets the needs.
11. Llorente - again, would be a good fit on the field, just likely overpriced.
12. Mexes - Still relatively young and talented, good veteran presence in the clubhouse, out of favor in his current club? 3/ 3, I think he's a top target.
I could see getting Lisandro, Coentrao, Mexes, and Afellay in Jan. If we are lucky with some good sales, either Hazard or Sanchez is a possibility. Doesn't make LFC a championship team, but significantly improves, IMO.
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What a load of crap you talk pal, you start off with im an american blah blah i don't know anything about SOCCER, but then you write
If we are lucky with some good sales,
WE meaning im realy a liverpool fan and have no idea about baseball but thought id write somthing that makes me sound kinda clever.
Read my book " i talk s* t and im a proper nob" al send you a copy youd love it
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Uh. .I never said I didn't know anything about soccer, just that I didn't know of advanced statistics in the sport (or even where to find simple statistics, such as number of tackles, passing %, corners completed, etc.) And I never said, or meant to imply, that I wasn't a Liverpool supporter AND a baseball fan. .apparently you think it's not possible to be both. I've been following Liverpool casually since after the '94 WC, and then followed more heavily after the Champs League run in '05. If you disagree with any of the assessments I've made, I'd be happy you hear your arguments, otherwise STFU.
28 Oct 2010 21:53:50
OH MY GOD ROY.
I watch liverpool reserves on a blumming regular basis we have david amoo raheem sterling jonjo shelvey?! martin kelly/ ! Ngoo?! Does anyone else remember in the champions league when we played arsenal and beat them ( ha :) ) but walcott came on and made that blistering run and he was i think 17/ 18 please can we try that maybe bring on Pacheco or Ngoo or amoo come on roy shake it up if things arent going well agaisnt Bolton please do something a young 18 year old with lots of pace could come on and make a magic run on the up side im going to the Chelsea game can't wait YWNA
28 Oct 2010 21:44:25
I reckon the sport in which beards are not allowed is WRESTLING! I cannot think of a single wrestler with a beard also it would be pretty painful to be grabbed by the short and curlies on the chin and neck!
Sack Hodgson - one Swallow doesn't make a summer! The man is bloody useless and tactically inept. {ed's note - didn't Giant Haystacks have a beard?}
yep he did ed and randy savage, , , theres a few wrestlers actually with beards, , edge usually has a goatee lol
28 Oct 2010 21:36:42
Would again like your feedback ed
Is it really true that nesv arn't going to put any money in for players because it is all over the press.
Also Don't you think the best choices would be mata, coentao and afeley as our whole squad needs strengthing and one extra quality player for every part of the team would make sense?
{Editor's note - It would make sense to get those 3 players, and this is probably just a tactic to keeps prices down, what is the point in saying there is 50 million to spend, the prices would get very expensive if Liverpool then started to bid for a player}
28 Oct 2010 21:34:54
Also Shelvey needs more match time as im convinsed he is going to get to the level of gerrard and maybe more {ed's note - I have not seen Alaba play, what kind of player is he? Shelvey is class, he needs to play as much as possible.}
so everyone is just gona turn their back on pacheco? he deserves for game time than anyother reserve or youngster at liverpool FC. much better than them all. you guys are just blinded by nationality!
{Editor's note - It has been mentioned serveral times on this site by the other Ed and other Liverpool supporters that Pacheco deserves a chance.}
28 Oct 2010 21:33:37
Ed, you need an 'agree with the ED' button along side the Agree and Disagree buttons. Most of the time I press believe agreeing with your comment not the original post, but to someone else looking through the posts it then looks like I've agreed with the poster. Great site though
{Editor's nte - Will siggest this to the other Ed's now}
28 Oct 2010 21:32:17
LIVERPOOL TRANSFER TARGETS:
Ed- have you heard any rumours that We are looking at GERMANS and aiming for players who impressed at WC?
Apparently double swoop for Podolski and Schweinsteiger with 40m.? ?
PETE NUNN YNWA
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{Editor's note - It is very unlikely we will get Schweinsteiger}
28 Oct 2010 20:19:57
Danny and Lisandro both would be excellent signings. .both r internationals but for some reasons r not talked abt more often. . but the problem is price. .When Zenit bought Danny, they paid a Russian PL transfer record of arnd 25 mil pound I believe, and hes been a top player for them. .Hes somewhat injury prone though. . Lisandro cost Lyon a whopping 25 mils too from Porto. . .I think Liverpool r looking into the possibility of signing Alan Dzagoev, superb little player an attacking Mid whose already talked abt as the next lampard. .Chelsea were interestd but not so now. . ur thoughts ED?
GTH
{Editor's note - If Chelsea want him they will get him. Due to the Russian links}
28 Oct 2010 20:14:59
So what sort of time frame do you think, early november ish? or sooner.
always a red
28 Oct 2010 19:37:43
Open letter to mr Roy Hodgson please vacate the managers chair
We have suffered enough third from bottom out of the carling cup, our players are constantly pulled through the red top gutter press and going to one joke club to another whilst you play big uncle roy with scum like ferguson, fat sam moyes redknapp and all the f- -in inbreds
For the sake of shankleys red army go to some other gaf were the locals and their sisters/ wives can tourist around on away days with silly green/ yellow{norwich} scarves pretending to be fans or slag off sol cambell or moan about brians disallowed goal or play wonderful football but win nothing or anywhere of your choosing
plllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllleeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaasssssssssssssseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
28 Oct 2010 19:36:20
There are alot of good players in the dutch league who are running down their contracts. Liverpool should look at them.We need a change of style and to blood a few of our young players. I agree with the Ed, that we have some young players who could make the step up giving the opportunity.I am affraid to say I don't think this is going to happen with RH.Our policy of buying and nurturing youngsters, will pay off and I think we will have an exciting crop of young players coming through.Wisdom, Ayala, Wilson, Kelly, Mavinga, Coady, Suso, Sterling, Shelvey, Silva, Ngoo, Pacheco have the most potential, I hope these young lads are giving a chance to show what they can do.What i have seen of these boys in particular in reserve, youth internationals, and the Academy the futue looks bright.
28 Oct 2010 19:34:48
Thanks for the reply Ed, can u tell me whether this is the reason why we have not followed upon Sanchez or is it because Roy's got all the info he needs on the player. . I get the feeling we r unsettled on the wing front and r looking elsewhere. . hence the interest in Young, Hazard and now Marveaux. . Also which do u think is a priority, a winger or a striker. .
GTH
{Editor's note - Probably a forward. Also Sanchez would not have been bought in the summer as his price had rocketed after the world cup}
28 Oct 2010 19:33:33
Can I remind all the posters worried about Nesv not committing loads of transfer money in January.
Henry said they would "under promise and over deliver".
If you combine this with their track record on Red Sox spending then I think we've got nothing to worry about and everything tri look forward to.
It would be nice to get back to the old-fashioned Lfc way of business under Peter Robinson where the first we would know of a transfer was a photo on the back page of some great young player with a Liverpool scarf round his neck.
Personally I'm excited about our future.
RedTed
28 Oct 2010 19:33:02
I agree with the earlier posts that say there is an element of kicking us when were down, from certain parts of media, and so called experts and pundits. Trust me though, we are not on our own. Look at the rubbish that was written and spoken about Mancs last week. Whether both sets of fans like it or not, there is a synergy that appears to have followed the history of both clubs. Tragedy, trophies etc, abound. Southern press are jealous of Northern success throughout the decades of dominance that have ensued. It's only by Gunners and Chelski sporadically, over last few years, that have broken the strangle hold both teams have had. Granted Gunners have a history, Chelsea though are just New Money. I for one sincerely hope that NESV honour the club, and fans as they should. But, as much as I despise the Mancs, I feel that their fans are from same stock as us, and should be treated with similiar respect. So, I wish the Glazer's would F* K off as well! Just to finish, I hope that club uses money wisely in January, as I feel if the right players are moved around, we can build a squad that will do us proud until end of season. We don't need superstars, we need players who want to die for Club! Unfortunately for next few months we need a Dogs of War mentality, starting at a club, where that attitude is tatooed on their hearts. Trust me we are in a dog fight! |Steve1961
28 Oct 2010 19:19:35
It could be worse. At least we are not on the verge of replacing our manager with Joe Kinnear like Newcastle Utd.
28 Oct 2010 19:07:58
Wat happened Ed u don't like my idea of being friends of FB.? {ed's note - I sent you an email mate, but if it is easier, my fb id is: 533300639}
28 Oct 2010 18:34:10
Going to go play football manager and show roy hodgson how the first few months of the season should have gone! ha ha ha
28 Oct 2010 17:50:31
Liverpool fc, the fans have no clue, the team has no heart, and the team has no future!
I want to apologise for writing this, sorry i am just SO fed up of living in your shadow and i am a very weak man and recently just split up with my boyfriend, once again i am sorry
It's OK we forgive you as we are the worlds greatest fans and can understand, it must be hard to support an inferior team, it must make you very bitter
YNWA
28 Oct 2010 17:49:53
My liverpool team in 5 years
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m.kelly-d.ayala-d.wilson-robinson
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sterling- - - suso- - - - hazard
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subs-gulasci-wisdom-mavinga-eccelston-ince-n'goo-tonisilva
28 Oct 2010 17:05:38
Remember when the site used to be just rumors and not "Ask ED"
Not that it's a bad thing, I'm sure the editors get endless entertainment and perhaps a big of a big head from everyone hanging off their every word. I know I would. {ed's note - it can be tiring mate, takes up a lot of time answering all the questions.}
28 Oct 2010 16:53:59
28 Oct 2010 16:38:51
Liverpool fc, the fans have no clue, the team has no heart, and the team has no future!
To whomever posted the above
you are quite right mate, now go to the nearest policeman and hold his hand, you are obviously lost from your day out from the rest home. I love the way you don't even say who your team is. but then you probably couldnt spell it anyway
thank you for your warm and well meant comments
chris 1
Brilliant,
I'm gonna go for - accrington stanley fan who secretly supports Man U but can't afford a ticket or a car to drive to the games,
28 Oct 2010 16:49:19
28 Oct 2010 16:18:11
Team I want to see in January
REINA
JOHNSON. . . . AGGER. . . .SKRTEL. . . .AURELIOKUYT. . . GERRARD. . . . . MEIRELES. . . HAZARD/ COLE
COLE/ PACHECO
TORRES
Dont expect us to go out and buy five or six players in January."
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I like the look of this new side. I particularly liked the inclusion of Aureliokuyt, this kid's gonna be world class.
28 Oct 2010 16:38:51
Liverpool fc, the fans have no clue, the team has no heart, and the team has no future!
To whomever posted the above
you are quite right mate, now go to the nearest policeman and hold his hand, you are obviously lost from your day out from the rest home. I love the way you don't even say who your team is. but then you probably couldnt spell it anyway
thank you for your warm and well meant comments
chris 1
28 Oct 2010 16:30:39
Liverpool fc, the fans have no clue, the team has no heart, and the team has no future!
28 Oct 2010 16:22:07
Na na nanana na nana dalglish + repeat
and poulsens sh$te
28 Oct 2010 16:00:28
I agree with the fact that at this moment we would not fill a 60,000 stadium
i have followed liverpool for a very long time and if the club sorted the advertisement of tickets and the distribution of tickets out, 60,000 would be very easy to attract, it is some sort of secret sometimes how to get a ticket from liverpool, i remember olympiacos away we were in athens and the tickets for the return leg went on sale the day after the game, we are supposed to be a club that loves its fans i have always found otherwise, we have to take a look at the mancs and how they went about ticket sales over the last 15 seasons i am confident the new owners will address this ticket problem, the fans are definatley out there to attract to games
bob
I agree mate, It's really difficult to organise getting over from Ireland., an increase in capacity would mean I could go over 3 or 4 times a year season instead of once.
Although. . Last time we went, we booked flights for a Saturday game 6 weeks in advance. The game was changed to Sunday and we lost the money (200) We were already out 160 for tickets, so we took a ferry on Sunday morning from Dublin. Arrived in Holyhead 11.30, got caught in traffic for the tunnel and sat down literally 30 seconds before kick-off. After the match we had to run to the car and head straight back to holyhead, making the boat with 7 minutes to spare. Total spend for 2 adults and 2 kids inc the flights: 660. The match we seen?
Blackpool.
28 Oct 2010 15:27:51
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To Bob: good post
Completly agree mate. sometimes i think it would be easier to join the masons than get a ticket for a game
Disclaimer; whilst we appreciate your posting on this site other sites are also available. ( ed: how much more pc can i be!)
chris 1 {ed's note - that gave me a good chuckle, but I am sure someone will complain that it gives the Masons a bad name or something.....}
28 Oct 2010 15:24:03
Ed. how about the new drugs cheats in Wigan. they are injecting ecstacy into their teeth. .its called,
E by gum . ?
28 Oct 2010 15:08:39
Welsh red
i agree with the fact that at this moment we would not fill a 60,000 stadium
i have followed liverpool for a very long time and if the club sorted the advertisement of tickets and the distribution of tickets out, 60,000 would be very easy to attract, it is some sort of secret sometimes how to get a ticket from liverpool, i remember olympiacos away we were in athens and the tickets for the return leg went on sale the day after the game, we are supposed to be a club that loves its fans i have always found otherwise, we have to take a look at the mancs and how they went about ticket sales over the last 15 seasons i am confident the new owners will address this ticket problem, the fans are definatley out there to attract to games
bob
28 Oct 2010 15:00:53
This isn't a rumour just some advice to some of the arrogant users of this site, e.g the guy who had a ridiculous go at the ed
dont have a go at the ed when you clearly have no right to, you will lose everytime we all support the ed.
{Editor's note - Thanks for the support :)}
28 Oct 2010 14:54:36
Ed,
i seen on the liverpool website that there are romours of liverpool interested in these following strikers
Vucinic
Forlan
Cardozo
which one of these would you frefer
thanks ed, and good site
{Editor's note - Out of those 3 I would pick Forlan, but if I had a choice of other forwards I would pick Llorente}
28 Oct 2010 14:50:19
Why do some people keep suggesting cardozo, sure he scored 3 against us last season but they were all set plays
28 Oct 2010 14:46:05
MY COMMITMENT TO LIVERPOOL IS 100 % I WOULD DIE FOR THAT LIVERPOOL s* t (QUOTE FROM A MR PEPE REINA )
28 Oct 2010 14:40:38
Read the first line again, I havent said you arent allowed an opinion. I'm just making the point about nipping it in the bud. But as you say, if you're not up to it, we'll leave it there.
28 Oct 2010 14:39:57
To the ed
Yes you are correct regarding the cost of ayala and soto. sorry the point i was trying to make was that soto at least tries, ok so he isn't the best technician in the world, but there is no pretence about the guy. Can we just get off his back all the time.
Regarding ayala. .i have no idea why he doesn't get more first team time. but then i think that about a lot of our younger players!
chris 1
28 Oct 2010 14:38:01
Not a rumour as such, but why don't the new owners give a portion of the transfer budget to the head of the youth setup to bring in starlets from around the world. If i was the owners i would give Rodolfo Borrell some money to spend. This man knows talent. He brought through the likes of Xavi, Iniesta, Messi, Fabregas, Pique etc.
I know that we need players who will do the job at the moment but we need players to come through the ranks too, i know we have some quality youth players but im sure the youth system can be improved and can have some world class prospects join the ranks.
An unorthadox method it is, but one that i personally would like to see happen as it would be a potentially money saving idea especially with the home grown rules and the new Uefa rules coming soon.
What do you think Ed?
-Poki
{Editor's note - We have brilliant youngsters coming through atm already but it would be good if more money was put into the youth system}
28 Oct 2010 14:33:49
I know i am going to get slated for this but here goes anyway. .
Firstly. i hold my hands up and say that lucas has improved, believe me he has. you just compare him to the last two seasons and he is a different player. Improvement still needed, but by no means does he deserve all the sell lucas taunts all the time.
Secondly. soto, yes i know he can be a dodgy defender at times, he hasnt got the greatest speed, but he really goes for stuff, he tends to win most headers, and not afraid to put himself about. I know there are many much better defenders around, but consider what he cost us, and at the moment he is probably one of the more honest players. what you see is what you get. .maybe if a few more of our players did the same the improvement overall would be tremendous.
Ok guys, rip me to bits
chris 1 {ed's note - I would just like to point out that Kyrgiakos cost us the same amount as Ayala.}
28 Oct 2010 14:25:02
28 Oct 2010 12:12:58
If Roy Hodgson leaves LFC in Janurary I will be dissapointed as I believe he has what it takes to lead LFC into a new successfull era.
The only problem is that it is taking Hodgson a little too long to bring success to LFC and the fans are running out of patience.
If Roy goes, I hope Rafa might come back.
I think that with the debt gone and with some money to spend, Rafa would bring the club foward as he did when he first joined LFC.
When Rafa joined LFC there was excitement as the fans watched the team slowly progress along with the intrigue Rafa brought through his unique personality and charisma. These elements had a profound effect on other teams and their fans as LFC were starting to get positive attention from the media and there was an element of fear and respect amoungst opposition fans.
Ok Rafa did make his fare share of mistakes which put several nails into this coffin at Anfield, but I have to look at the progress LFC made during his reign, the players he signed and the players he tried to sign but didn't due to various different reasons.
LFCYNWA
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What are you on? Must be really strong.
28 Oct 2010 14:18:44
Dude 2 wins away , but will you win your next 2 games, will the teams above you drop points, Bolton and Chelsea, can you win them both? not on current form, 1 point out of six is the best you can hope for.
When do you kids go back to school, hope it's soon so men can discuss football without childish attacks from weak people who are more obsessed with other teams than they are of their own, i wonder if it's because you're a ManU fan who are falling apart or a deeply bitter Everton fan, of course we'll never know because you're too ashamed to tell us LOL
YNWA
28 Oct 2010 14:04:11
LFC fans, come on lets stop speculating about signings - we have two months until we get the first idea of NESV stratergy, remember very few people knew we would be signing Poulsen and Raul so god knows what will happen in January with a new manager or not.
The most important thing is we win on Sunday - nothing else matters not NESV nor Turan nor Mata nothing other than to beat Bolton! !
jns YNWA
28 Oct 2010 13:12:35
Deano95
Just a couple concerns about recent press conferences and answers to questions Roy hodgson has given
when asked " Are Liverpool in a relegation fight " his answer was Yes . .he should of said 2 or 3 wins
and this club will be back towards it should be . and when he was asked about Reina or Torres being targets
for Manure there was nothing forthright . .ie Liverpool FC don't sell to Them and they don't sell to us end
of story. . because you can bet that's what whiskey face would of said. if anyones said this before sorry but
just got back from holiday so hav'nt been on
28 Oct 2010 12:51:58
Your gonna get relegated, my guru just told me, so it must be true.
28 Oct 2010 12:37:08
The next two games are so important. The Chelsea game could go either way. .but not getting 3 points against Bolton WOULD be a disaster. .as these are the kind of games we must win to get the season back on track.
p.s., I think Soto has totally proved his worth in the red jersey and I really like Shelvey, he's so confident on the ball and progressive with his passing, hope he gets more game time soon.
Kez
28 Oct 2010 12:31:00
Dude 2 wins away , but will you win your next 2 games, will the teams above you drop points, Bolton and Chelsea, can you win them both? not on current form, 1 point out of six is the best you can hope for.
28 Oct 2010 12:26:38
To all you tosse*s from other teams on here giving your opinions and predictions, how about fu* off and get on your own forums lets face it manure are penniless nearly double the debt which almost destroyed us so that's just a time bomb, man citeh how long your sugar daddy gonna hang around when the new rules come in which means you can only spend what you make not sure you would get too far spending a tenner, and good ol spurs and all you little wide boy harry butt fuc*ers lets face it you got CL last season it won't happen again and for a team whos biggest highlights in history is one FA cup and finishing fourth last year i would maybe be a little bit quiet,
it is clear that we are on the up our new owners have brains and will spend but they will spend on the right players and all this crap about us not bein able to attract top players get real we are liverpool fc one of the biggest and most successful clubs in europe just remember our fans and team never walk alone so lets see where you all are end of the season as its far from over.
28 Oct 2010 12:24:01
Okay, to all those Sir Red Nose and Tomatoeface 'Arry worshippers: on the first day of the season we were one minute away from beating Arsenal (who, subsequently beat Man City 3-0 and Spuds 4-1, our closest rivals for 4th) which, at this point, would leave us with 11 points and in joint 7th. We were also unlucky not to beat Sunderland. We had a legitimate goal disallowed scored by Torres which would have left us with 14 points, the media off our back and Nando's and we wouldn't have to waist our time explaining to armchair fans how exactly our season is going.
Personally I think the Scum United fans should be worrying about more pressing matters, such as the £1bn debt their club is in, the age of their manager and team and lack of funds to replace them.
jon
28 Oct 2010 12:19:05
". .I think us fans should have a say on what players we bring into the club. "
to the person who said this - why not join SOS and see if you can get a seat on the board whilst your at it and if you do can you put me top of the list for a season ticket in the kop please
28 Oct 2010 12:18:54
U r not allowed to have a beard if u are an amatuer boxer.
28 Oct 2010 12:12:58
If Roy Hodgson leaves LFC in Janurary I will be dissapointed as I believe he has what it takes to lead LFC into a new successfull era.
The only problem is that it is taking Hodgson a little too long to bring success to LFC and the fans are running out of patience.
If Roy goes, I hope Rafa might come back.
I think that with the debt gone and with some money to spend, Rafa would bring the club foward as he did when he first joined LFC.
When Rafa joined LFC there was excitement as the fans watched the team slowly progress along with the intrigue Rafa brought through his unique personality and charisma. These elements had a profound effect on other teams and their fans as LFC were starting to get positive attention from the media and there was an element of fear and respect amoungst opposition fans.
Ok Rafa did make his fare share of mistakes which put several nails into this coffin at Anfield, but I have to look at the progress LFC made during his reign, the players he signed and the players he tried to sign but didn't due to various different reasons.
LFCYNWA
28 Oct 2010 12:10:05
LATEST ODDS
FRANK RIJAARD 4/ 5
MON 5/ 1
PELLERGINI 5/ 1
KENNY 8/ 1
MARK HUGHES 14/ 1
FLORES 16/ 1
what you think about the odds ed
and who is likely to be the manager out of that lot
dont think hughes would be popular do you ed
{Editor's note - No, I would hate to have Hughes here}
28 Oct 2010 11:57:20
To all these fergie and harry Fu* ers, just go and worry about ur club. Liverpool don't need your ideas or predictions. We can handle our problems deal with ur problems and u tottenham to* ers first time u got champion league and u think u won it make the most of it this is the last time u init
28 Oct 2010 11:53:38
Dude we are 2 good wins away from the top 10. We are a team on the up you could see it judging by the blackburn game. But you'll probably have something negative to say about that too right? Go and support your own team. Your negativity is nor wanted nor needed here.
Red bl00ded!
28 Oct 2010 11:53:06
"28 Oct 2010 11:35:20
You may well spend what you make in profits, but how much will player fees and wages decrease your spending ability, Im a pre- sky football supporter, I don't even have sky, you want to buy a good young player, your competition will still be AFC, CFC, MCFC and MUFC, your stock in European football is at its lowest ever, how will that help you to atract top players, would you join a team in the bottom half of the table when you can join one in the top half."
I don't for one moment believe we'll end up in the bottom half of the table - there's only 3 points difference between 7th and 18th at the moment, so i think any thoughts of impending doom are a little melodramatic and certainly premature. When it comes to why players join teams there are a variety of reasons cited. You seem to be putting a large amount of stock in the draw of CL football. For some it will be equally as big a draw to play for one of the most famous clubs in world football. Cole turned down Spurs with the lure of CL football.
28 Oct 2010 11:46:25
You may well spend what you make in profits, but how much will player fees and wages decrease your spending ability, Im a pre- sky football supporter, I don't even have sky, you want to buy a good young player, your competition will still be AFC, CFC, MCFC and MUFC, your stock in European football is at its lowest ever, how will that help you to atract top players, would you join a team in the bottom half of the table when you can join one in the top half.
You're an idiot, we are 2 yes 2 that's TWO points away from the top half and 3, that's THREE points away from joint seventh, and if you had any brain it's pretty obvious that player fees and wages are not taken from profits, they are taken from the clubs turnover and what is left is the profit, JUST HOW THICK CAN ONE PERSON BE? Although facts don't help bitter little people do they, LOL
YNWA
28 Oct 2010 11:45:08
You don't read the posts properly, top 10 by the end of Dec, not the end of the season, even Gerrard is out of form, and hes your best player, injurys and suspensions will also weaken your chances of getting into the top 10 by Jan 1st.
28 Oct 2010 11:35:20
You may well spend what you make in profits, but how much will player fees and wages decrease your spending ability, Im a pre- sky football supporter, I don't even have sky, you want to buy a good young player, your competition will still be AFC, CFC, MCFC and MUFC, your stock in European football is at its lowest ever, how will that help you to atract top players, would you join a team in the bottom half of the table when you can join one in the top half.
28 Oct 2010 11:34:15
Torres, ngog, pacheco, gerrard, shelvey, mereiles, lucas, jovanovic, kuyt, cole, maxi, johnson, kelly, carra, agger, kyrgiakos, aurelio, skrtel, wilson, ayala, ngog, mavinga. .im sure there are more. How the f*ck can anyone say that we won't finish at least top 10? Are you bloody stupid? All of the above players are internationals for God's sake!
Red bl00ded!
28 Oct 2010 11:33:43
I think we can safely say "MUFC" won't be in the Top 4 for very much longer.
And poor old Everton will never be there, in 2 to 3 years with the new spending rules, our huge profits, no debt, our fantastic young players, we will once again be at the top, in fact if you look at it sensibly, Liverpool and Arsenal have the best futures
YNWA
ps why do you fans that come on here trying to slag us of never mention who you support? Not ashamed are you?
28 Oct 2010 11:22:39
Its amazing all these manure fans and spurs tos*ers on here today. what we all jealous that we have a solid foundation now to move on, yeah we arent playing great but we are lfc and our team will never walk alone and we will climb the table so to all you deluded spurs fans well done on getting into the champions league for the first an last time last season an for a team whos glory days are considered as winning one fa cup maybe you should come back once you win 5 european cups and 18 league title before you comment on the most successful club in english football, and as for the manure fans lets be realistic look what happened to us through bein 400 million in debt you lot are nearly double that not long before your bubble bursts so stop dreamin of reina playing for you the man is not blind he has only just got a club with decent owners why would he come to you and have all that again,
so pis* off back to your forums
28 Oct 2010 11:18:14
"28 Oct 2010 11:04:24
Will you ever see CL football at anfield again?the top 4 wil still be dominated by AFC, CFC, MUFC and MCFC, you won't break that monopoly for years, not unless you spend realy big this transfer window, or get massive investment at academy level."
I'm sorry but you've just perfectly highlighted the problem with post Sky football fans - they assume throwing money at an under-performing side is the only way to improve a team. Did the Madrid Galacticos beat the La Masia graduates with any consistency? Do Arsenal need to buy marquee signings?
To answer your question, the new financial fair play rulings will curb City's spending to some degree and though they are doing well at the moment, we have no idea how they will end the season - Villa are a prime example of a side that tails off when the pressure mounts and City may be the same. City haven't even made the CL yet and you assume they are a dominant force. Take into account that Liverpool will be able to spend what they make now that the acquisition debt of the previous owners has been lifted and things are not as gloomy as Sky punditry and tabloid journalism would like for Liverpool.
28 Oct 2010 11:15:49
Yes I do think Liverpool will not be in the top 10 by the end of Dec, do you think you can win your next 2 games, I dont, I think 1 out of 6 points is the best you will get, that will be 10 games 10 points, carry on like that till the end of the season, and you will be below the safety of the 40 point mark, you need at least 26 points by the end of Dec, 12 games to get 17 pionts, which of the next 12 games can you win.
28 Oct 2010 11:13:45
28 Oct 2010 11:04:24
Will you ever see CL football at anfield again?the top 4 wil still be dominated by AFC, CFC, MUFC and MCFC, you won't break that monopoly for years, not unless you spend realy big this transfer window, or get massive investment at academy level.
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I think we can safely say "MUFC" won't be in the Top 4 for very much longer.
28 Oct 2010 11:12:21
Can anyone give me any pointers of what my fifa11 team should look lyk? Im thinking. .
Gk reina
rb kelly
cb ayala
cb agger
lb taiwo
rm turan/ joaquin
cm gerrard
cm lucas(i l0ve this guy, people should back off)
lm foggia/ kuyt
cf cole
st torres
Red bl00ded!
28 Oct 2010 11:04:24
Will you ever see CL football at anfield again?the top 4 wil still be dominated by AFC, CFC, MUFC and MCFC, you won't break that monopoly for years, not unless you spend realy big this transfer window, or get massive investment at academy level.
28 Oct 2010 10:59:57
You lot still don't understand the transfer market in modern football, players have agents and advisers, when a club comes looking at a player, the agent or adviser, will assess the clubs potential, league posistion, and future investment, what potential for trophies do Liverpool have?none, Liverpools league posistion?dreadful, future investments?unclear, how do you expect them to advise there client to join Liverpool, if and its a big ask, you can not climb out of the lower end of the table, what quality of player do you honestly think will want to join you, you no longer command the respect of a top 4 club, in fact you no longer command the respect of a top 10 club, you won't even make the Europa league for next season, what do you have to offer a real class player, nothing, just your distant history, if you don't get relegated, it could take 3 years just to back into the top 8 of the table, this is a realistic opinion, so forget the optomism and deal with the truth, lower your expectations for new player arrivals, until your league posistion is improved, put yourselves in the players posistion, would you realy realy join a club at the bottom of the prem, would you join west ham?no you would not, why because of there league posistion.
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Do you really think for one second Liverpool won't be at least 10th come December. Our future investment is not unclear we got 17 billionaires running our club.
jon
28 Oct 2010 10:53:43
My Liverpool dream team:
Riena
McAteer Hyypia Carragher Riise
Terry Mac Gerrard Alonso Heighway
Torres Dalglish
What a team! Id have Rushy, Molby, Hansen and Larwo on the bench along side Clem and Fairclough.
With that team we'de win everything.
28 Oct 2010 09:58:06
You lot still don't understand the transfer market in modern football, players have agents and advisers, when a club comes looking at a player, the agent or adviser, will assess the clubs potential, league posistion, and future investment, what potential for trophies do Liverpool have?none, Liverpools league posistion?dreadful, future investments?unclear, how do you expect them to advise there client to join Liverpool, if and its a big ask, you can not climb out of the lower end of the table, what quality of player do you honestly think will want to join you, you no longer command the respect of a top 4 club, in fact you no longer command the respect of a top 10 club, you won't even make the Europa league for next season, what do you have to offer a real class player, nothing, just your distant history, if you don't get relegated, it could take 3 years just to back into the top 8 of the table, this is a realistic opinion, so forget the optomism and deal with the truth, lower your expectations for new player arrivals, until your league posistion is improved, put yourselves in the players posistion, would you realy realy join a club at the bottom of the prem, would you join west ham?no you would not, why because of there league posistion.
28 Oct 2010 09:30:56
Hello. Is anyone here today. Sending banter and not getting through and no one else seems to be here aswell. Am I all aloneeee. I woke up earlier my missus my kids have all gone out I come on here and no one on here too. Ammm I alll alone in this world. Wer has everyone GONE
28 Oct 2010 08:54:29
The Media lie machine is in overdrive today regarding Reina to The Arse and Torres to Citeh! In my heart I don't think this will happen, but I guess if the last few seasons have taught us anything, it is to believe the unbelievable. . e.g., have to believe our unbelievable bad form is real.
Tho it reflects very poorly on Hodgson if it's true, that by Xmas of his 1st season in charge 2 of the clubs best players want out.
On another note I've been advocating playing Jovanovic off Torres for a while now. .tho I guess he would play 1 game there not score and everyone would start shouting he's rubbish, not good enough. Too much scrutiny and too much negativity focused at the team at the moment. .let's get our best players playing regularly and in the right formation and then see how they fair after a few months.
Have to admit I'm not confident in Hodgsons ability to turn things around, but either replace him or get behind him, there's no middle ground on that one!
28 Oct 2010 07:33:01
Trouble with u lot you close yr eyes and think all is rosy players wanting to join yr once great club and money to burb when in fact u have no money and yr players want out