Liverpool Banter Archive April 29 2013

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29 Apr 2013 23:07:43
Before the biting incident I was fairly confident that Suarez would stay BUT now it seems like he is considering wether to stay or not and could leave.
Also from one game it does not mean we don't need Suarez! Yes we scored 6 and it was a great performance But N'castle were rubbish and gave soo much space!
BUT I do think that if we lose Suarez it won't me a major blow as people make out.
You could make a point with Suarez in the team it is about him and everything goes through him and that other players rely on him. Wereas vs N'castle more players stepped up and were significant points of attacks!
Also Suarez ISN'T exactly a Centre forward or lone striker nor neccesarily a wide-forward (but I think he should be used as 1)
He has scored a lot of goals but has wasted too many and in terms of chances to goals he isn't deadly or a fox in a box!
HOWEVER he is a magician and creates something out of nothing! He can do things not many players can. His goal vs N'castle, his free kicks vs City/Zenit etc. He is a game changer!

If he does leave I think we should do a Cash+Player deal unless LFC are sure of getting a top replacement.
As with the Alonso deal lfc should of maybe got Diarra/VanDeVart/Sneijder when they were at Madrid but didn't and ended up over spending on Aquilani.
If LFC do a cash only deal it could make other teams raise prices as they would know that lfc have money.
If Munich buy him we should try get Gomez but would be highly unlikely, or maybe Gustavo (Solid CM and LB cover) / Shaqiri (not getting much games)

But to replace Suarez LFC should by a ST someone who leads the line and a Wing-Forward.
I. E. Bony/Benteke/Soldado/Negredo + Mertens/Aubameyang/Gaitan etc.

F5.

Unfortunately mate none of your suggested signings will come!

30 Apr 2013 09:57:40
Macca says Suarez will stay.

The real AG

30 Apr 2013 09:59:44
Go do one nonamed poster.

If Suarez is gone I can't see why Bony or Benteke or Rodriguez wearing a RED shirt as his replacment!
When Bony is Westham's prime target I think we have a chance, well Benteke if Liverpool show intrest in him to replace Luis Suarez he would come (Providing Spurs don't finish in the top 4)

Shaqiri and Gomez I agree with, first because WE have NO intrest in either, and Bayern will NOT let Shaqiri go anywhere.

30 Apr 2013 10:18:37
Also Soldado would join
Also Negredo would join

That is if Liverpool show interest! I remeber Negredo a couple of years back, saying I will play their (Anfield) his dream was to come here!

And it was between Soldado and Carroll to replace Torres, and if I say it was Kenny who chose Andy Carroll even though he did I am a giant t***, but sadly its the truth!

So many trolls on here thinking they know anything when if they took the time they would find out the facts, instead of coming off as ignorant arrogant people!

Rogers doesn't like a powerhouse up front pal dream on

An ignorant, arrogant person? Are you aware why Kenny went with Carroll Noname, because he certainly wasn't his first choice. Please correct me if I'm wrong Ed001, but were Liverpool not trying to get Llorente, and once it was established he wasn't for sale, Carroll was the 'English alternative'?

Melbourne CFC {Ed001's Note - and Toivonen and many others. Carroll was not the 'English alternative', he was the only alternative. It was simply a case of him being the only one whose club were willing to do a deal at the end of January.}

30 Apr 2013 11:26:01
Then you have never ever watched any of these players exept maybe Benteke.

Neither Soldado, Nor Negredo are even remotly close to being "power houses"

Wilfred bony is shorter than Luis Suarez!
And even though he is very strong, he is a dribbler with a lot of tricks and skills using his power and strengh to help him run almost "through" apponents. I barely see him score headed goals! You are clueless!

Person slagging o. p. Benteke is good player. BUTalthough they went for cheap slag off option-thet are correct in Benteke is Not of calibre or MORE importantly type of player to replace Suarez (if he goes-hope not) But I would certainly add Benteke to what we've got. V. good young player in making. Offers something different

That tells you all you need to know about how Liverpool is run. Just splashing 35 million on a player just because he's available and they need a striker because they've just sold Torres for 50m.

Djay

29 Apr 2013 22:47:42
Hey eds just read that carrol might come back to Liverpool i'm not too sure what to think about this because sometimes he does well and sometimes he does bad, also do you think we will sell shelvey (please say yes) Cheers

Hello Frosty, I'm of the opinion Carroll should return to Anfield, he has gone out on loan worked at his game started to show some of the Newcastle Andy Carroll again and is without doubt one of the best young English players in the prem.
He has his off days as does Suarez and as do all players.
Carroll and Sturridge front line with our midfield should hold their own, but with Carroll I think he is not suited to being on the bench for 75 mins, he needs more game time and he will gain in confidence and flurish.
My opinion not sure BR agrees

I think we should stick to our guns 17 million or he comes back simples! Besides his stock will rise next weekend when he scores a hatrick at goodison.

I can wish can't I?

kev the red

30 Apr 2013 10:08:45
'Not sure BR agrees'
Iam not sure anybody who understands football agrees.

is that why you didn't sign a name? just to a have a cheep go at the manager again? Silly, so SILLY.

Because I am sure 99% of Liverpool fans are sick of even hearing Carroll's name. The ed002 has said over and over and over again Liverpool will do what ever they can to get rid and I am delighted with that!

He is on 85 000 a week, no one gets that kind of money to sit on the bench knowing 1. he is not wanted 2. not going to fit the system at all, 3. not even intrested to fight for a place, 4. complete waste of time and energy trying to adjust the tactics to fit a giant PLANK who Michael Ngoo has double the pace and mobility of! 5. We will never use him!
One of the best young english players? My God you are clueless. He is good at jumping and sometimes at heading the ball! Other than that he is a horrible footballer. He is extremly slow, he is extremly imobile, he is extremly lazy, he is drunk half the time, he has absolutly no skill whatsoever and when he thinks he has he looses the ball 9 out of 10 times. Anyone wanting that 36 million flop back is clueless!

Totally not football related but the poster who claimed that another poster dint his post, dint sign his post himself!

29 Apr 2013 22:10:12
Eds, more a question of morals than anything really. Is it wrong to hope a team go down so we can move on their players? I. E Newcastle with Cabaye, Krul, Coloccini? Haha

In Newcastles case yes! Send Wigan down with their shocking fans & owner. Atleast villa Newcastle & Sunderland bring something to the league

More the point is it wrong hopin a team stay up so we don't end up with there useless cast offs on stupid wages e.g cabaye, coloccini etc

Bob bobbinson

Cabaye is class you mad

29 Apr 2013 22:19:07
Not sure why Rodgers would leave for City or why Liverpool would sack him unless there are problems behind the scenes. Rodgers was brought in on a mandate to change things long-term, living within the club's financial means. That's pretty much what he's doing and he is a manager who builds from the bottom rather than buying in at the top. He seems unsuited to City's "supermarket dash" approach.

We've got a young talented guy here, student of the game who has learnt from some of the best, and ill only get better as he makes mistakes (that's the way you improve). A few years from now when the FFP rules really start to bite, we'll be in a better position than most if we stick with BR.

Redfin

29 Apr 2013 23:13:34
Here here, the improvement is there for all to see, scoring goals aplenty, and the style is a change then recent years were we hung on to slender leads, we are controlling games, and if we get the targets brendan wants, then I, m being serious we won't just be fighting for top 4, but fighting for the league, and if the rumours city want him are true, then they know, that brendan is going to be a top top manager, I just wish some fans would see the bigger picture, that brendan will be here for the long run, and build another dynasty, were we knock fergie off that f*cking perch, and regain the status as englands and europe numer one club!

IN BRENDAN I TRUST
JUSTICE and PEACE
FT96

29 Apr 2013 23:43:29
Man city won't touch Rodgers neither he will be sacked, but when you talk about long-term, keep in mind without getting Champions league there is no long-term, because running Liverpool without champions league is impossible, no owner will accept running a club with so much losses at the sametime they have made it clear that champions league is only the way Liverpool can think about long-term and move foward according to them, werner has said many times champions league is only the way Liverpool can take first step that's how important to them and we as club is,

Without champions league, we are losing a lot of money, a lot of sponsors neither can attract new sponsors and clubs global reputation getting damaged year after year at the sametime clubs market is going down every year, its impossible to plan long-term without chasmpions league.

If next year Liverpool doesn't achieve Champions league then it will be time for Rodgers to worry as owners won't accept continuing losing money and for sure will think to pull the trigger, for now Rodgers is safe and don't worry city are not interested in rodgers, they have looked at 5-6 top managers and Rodgers is not one of them.

So any club in europe that doesn't play champions league football NOW, will never play it?
Is that what you're saying?
No CL this year, no CL ever?

Funny. I remember spurs playing the other year. Malaga, Dortmund?

Then the owners will sack Rodgers, find somebody else to build the club from the ground up, within a budget, sack them after two season and keep doing that?

Really?

Red7.

Why would Rodgers leave? Check out the views of some people on this page after a draw

30 Apr 2013 10:56:58
Spot on Samsam. But hopefully he understands that most of these posts are by clueless children though!

Anonym

30 Apr 2013 11:05:54
Who said Liverpool won't play champions league again, read the post properly, owners are not going to wait 3-5 years for rodgers to achieve champions league, just read werner interview you will get your answer.

29 Apr 2013 22:04:58
Eds. what u reckon our chances on transfers in and out in summer ins. williams, alderwood, ince, Erickson, outs spearing, Carroll, pacheco, coates, retired, carrager, and loans for wisdom, suso ynwa

29 Apr 2013 22:02:14
Oh my god, so villa won 6-1. does this mean that now they are full of world beaters and are going to get top 4 finish next season and they have a world class manager. NO it means they played well one game against poor oposition like we did, but we get carried away and then are dissapointed when we get thrashed next game, just be real and stop going over the top, we are still miles off the mancs and chelsea guys and you must realise this!

A Liverpool fan that isn't deluded never thought I would see the day congrats!

This is exactly what I posted lad after the Newcastle game, but got the usual crap about being negative etc, when all I was saying was gloat when there's something to really gloat about, don't leave yourselves open to ridicule when a dodgy result pops up. But there's quite a few posters on here who are just as reactionary as the posters after a bad result, they need to get some perspective.

Waro

Totally agree. We are 5 class players off top4. Liverpool always play great when the preasure is off and there's nothing left to play for. Hey if there was no trophy at the end of the Prem we'd probably finish top every year
DBol

You lot don't seem to have a clue. If you look at the league table and see where we are in the table, along with our goal difference, we're not as far off the Manchester clubs, chelsea or arsenal. We have a better goal difference than both spurs and Everton, but not the points that justify this.

You lot just come on here with negativity and looking for arguments. If you can't even enjoy watching your team win then why bother supporting them?

Red Raw

To be fair it's not the first time this season that we've proved that we can score goals. It's our defending and midfield that needs addressing mostly this summer.

Disagree with DBol. We are not 5 players away from top 4. We are not that far behind. I would say we are 2 'TOP PLAYERS' and a 2 more squad players away from top 4.

This is however objective, as it can be argued that we don't even need any additions to be Top4, but just better application of our play or it can be argued that we need 5 players or whatever as DBol points out.

The real AG

30 Apr 2013 10:23:22
Complety disagree with Waro
If you can't enjoy your team batter another why even support them?
it seems you are never happy.

I complety agree with the real ag and the poster above him!
and to the dude coming on here trying to be funny talking about delusion! Go do one, what a child!

30 Apr 2013 10:43:29
Completly agree Red Raw

30 Apr 2013 11:51:25
To the anonymous poster, I did enjoy battering newcastle. Even though I was in work, I gave a bit of stick to a few blues who said we would get turned over, my point was the people, who say stuff like sell suarez as this shows we don't need him or to all the br haters what about that performance etc, we win well and its all, were going to do this next season were going to do that next season. Why not enjoy it for what it was, 3 points and a great performance against a very very poor team, its not negativity its realism. Go ott and you leave yourself open to stick, especially with regards to who we play soon.

Waro

Nobody has gone OTT Waro, it's LFC supporters funnily enough supporting LFC and happy after a weekend result. If there isn't anything to moan about then you have to make something to moan about. If you are like this in regards to everything in your life then I'm so glad that I don't know you - depressing SOB.

Fowler99

5 players away from top 4? So we literally need half the outfield line-up changing to get another 10-12 points on the board? Interesting perspective

100% agree with red raw and fowler99. If people are passionate about football and the club, they can show as much emotion as they want (something that's been missing from anfield for a few years). I couldn't care less about "leaving ourselves open" what's wrong with enjoying the moment?
Have never agreed with any of waros negative comments on here. I thought he was leaving anyway?!

29 Apr 2013 21:59:27
lookin forward to summer transfer window already eds with the new ffp rules set to kick in yere days will be jammed packed. I was just lookin thru some other team sites as I like to see what other fans think about there own club and who they hope to sign and see not a single post since feb on one of the top teams site, is it closed or are they keepin the heads down, also what has happened to blair not seen a post from him in ages, taught i'd post but ye seem to have answered all my topics of interest already so keepin questions about the likes of buyin messi, cavani etc till 1st july, cheers eds love the site. red2toe

29 Apr 2013 21:46:38
I hope Rodgers realises he has just stumbled on Coutihio's best postion and does not change it.

That's his position. He was never signed to be a winger, BR just easing him in

29 Apr 2013 21:42:28
Mignolet is dodgy keeper or what hope we don't sign him

Basy

Agreed he'd be a downgrade on reina, in the PL only begovic would be realistic/good enough but he's a few bob more than our owners would be willing to spend unfortunately,

Mignolet is a fantastic keeper, who is still well shy of his prime as a senior keeper. Don't just watch the odd highlight reel where Sunderland get taken apart.
If 6 goals are scored, the keeper should not be held accountable, what the hell are the defenders doing. If he has a bad game, get over it. He's a keeper, they're prone to the odd dodgy performance.
Mignolet is already at about a begovic standard (nearly), but he'll move well past that. Whether here or somewhere else, he'll be a great keeper. Remember, he's at least 10yrs in him yet, still a few years off really finding his feet. Better to sign him now and watch him develop here, than wait for him to reach his peak and pay a fortune for him. But he's already good enough to be No. 1

30 Apr 2013 10:31:34
Actually I watched the game yesterday and completly disagree about him not being held for letting in 6.

The first goal, he could have easily saved.
the 2nd. no chance.
the 3rd goal he could have avoided by not giving away that stupid rebound.
the 4th goal no chance.
the 5th goal, I mean come on Benteke didn't even try, he passed it and Mignolet could and SHOULD have saved that.
the 6th goal: I didn't see it but I heard from the commentator it was Agblongahor which means it couldn't have been a super finish anyway (joking)

Reina is the shiznet and we need to keep him and I am sure BR will give him a new deal soon!

I know there is talk about a new keeper but I truly believe its Brad Jones who needs replacing, its hilarious how bad he is sometimes and even more hilarious people keep refering to him as yound Brad jones when he is older than Reina!

30 Apr 2013 11:07:37
LOL

what makes you think Sunderland don't want a fortune?

Was is it the 16 million pounds we paid for Jordan Henderson that gives you the impression they are easy to do buisness with? hehe, come on. Mignolet is NOT that good, he is brilliant some times and just as horrible some other games. One poster on here said that a few weeks back, that he thinks Mignolet is good but he have too many 'stinkers' and I didn't know what he ment until I saw the game last night. 3 of the goals yesterday f. eks Reina would have easily saved. The 1st, the 3rd, the 5th.

Anonym

29 Apr 2013 21:40:38
Eds, I'd love Benteke at Liverpool. Strong, quick, good in the air and the lad can finish! What are the chances of us going in for him at the end of the season? {Ed002's Note - Try the search function.}

I've just clicked the imaginary agree button

29 Apr 2013 21:36:05
Eds was wondering if you could let us know what the availability is on the below midfielders, as I would love to see any of them at Anfield next season.

Ander Herera of Athletico Bilboa.
Susaeta of Bilboa also.
Lucas Biglia of Anderlect.

Also is Iker Munian still available this summer admittedly he hasn't been as good this year and has off field issues, but has this dropped his valuation and even interest from clubs who were previously interested?

There's also players like Steven Defour, Lucas Ocampos, Nicolas Loidero and Nicolas Gaitan who I think would be worth taking a punt on for the right fee.

Do you know who is available this summer and whether strong interest by clubs has been retained on these?

Jonesred {Ed002's Note - Try the search function please. Ocampos will not be leaving Monaco for Liverpool, and there has not been interest shown in the others.}

These are the players we need. Love Herrera, suseata and Munson at Liverpool.

Neil

Susaeta, I would have.
Herrera. Maybe, he'd be very rushed and knocked about playing where he does. If he could be kept in a Coutinho type position, he'd be better in England, but what to do with Coutinho then? Biglia is a bit slow in the brainal area. Muniain is a little s**t!
As for the rest.

Not that it matters, none of them will be looked at. People will say "we can't even attract players from the portugese league now". When we won't even be looking at them.

30 Apr 2013 12:23:11
Portugal league is Pants! Pants is a compliment actually. There are 3 big teams and the rest is rubbish, for real! Now there is 2 big teams there. As sporting is horrible this season!

29 Apr 2013 21:30:52
Benteke is a beast lfc seriously need to buy this guy
Quick strong and brilliant in the air

Basy

I'd like to see him do it for another season. He's been brilliant, but so have quite a few strikers over the years, only to get found out the next year. Chamakh.

Is he better than Sturridge?

No, he isn't, so it would be pointless spending on him.

30 Apr 2013 10:34:13
Sturridge is miles better.

He is double as fast
He is double as technical
He is tripple as skillful
He is 5 times as leathal.

Benteke is taller and Stronger! Michael Ngoo anyone?

I would rather have Andreas Weimann and the lowton kid, he was amazing! If Liverpool are smart, try to sell G. Johnson for big bucks and replace him with lowton!

Sturridge different pace and guile. Benteke yes quick but strong, direct, good in air. can hold up if needs be. Why compare-x4 top strikers at ANY TOP CLUB-Trick then is MANAGING them (Thats where Taggart does well) And at times you may play 3 of them anyhow! (one deep, or wide/coming on as Sub to get us back into games or pinch late win

I still haven't recovered from what the previous beast we signed did to us.

KrishnaYNWA

29 Apr 2013 21:26:40
Remember all the hype about Adam Johnson. Looks to be havin a mare tonight.

SG

He's a little bit poo, isn't he

And the hype about big andy and look what that did to us 35mil wasted now we are looking for sponsers to make that money back

30 Apr 2013 10:39:40
Agreed no name poster.
People can't get that andy carrolls signing is one of the major reasons holding us back

I truly read some people having a go at BR

for spending 20million on Sturridge and Coutinho and the same people wantling carroll back. SHOCKING

Sturridge+Coutinho since joining = 10 goals + 9 assists

Sturridge= 8 goals+ 4 assists
Coutinho= 2 goals + 5 assists

Amazing return, also considering Sturridge and Coutinho haven't started all games since joining and Sturridge have had a couple of niggles which hindered his momentum, once he shaked those off, 3 goals+ 2 assists in 3 halfs and some still critisize Sturridge.
I said it before we are lucky to have Sturridge, and anyone who critisizes the lad understand 0 about football, sorry end of.

29 Apr 2013 21:15:27
I know its too early/insignificant to ask.

But in the event of Brendan Rodgers' departure, who would you like as the manager?

I would like a new bootroom type of setup, so the likes of Carragher, Hyypia etc could join the staff and learn the ropes. When the main man moves on, there's continuity from within. Like the way it used to be. No wholesale changes to playing staff, style of play or back room team would be needed each time the manager moved on.

Mr. Bean

Sg player manager like kk

Shankly wasn't "boot room" - so please don't encourage the clickish, in-crowd approach

I sincerely hope BR stays. But if he doesn't, I'd love to see Rafa back. Or Jupp Heynckes if he's available. Jurgen Klopp will be fantastic but I doubt he'll leave BVB.
Cheers

We DO NOT NEED HIS DEPARTURE!-I have my concerns over Brendan-but upheaval again serves no purpose. deserves probably 1st part next Season tbf

30 Apr 2013 11:40:50
If Rafa Benitez comes back to Liverpool then its the end of supporting Football all together for me I think. I honestly believe most people talking about benitez are young or just started supporting us and can't remember the complete s**** football we played or didn't even watch it (Just watched a clip of 2005 final me thinks). My god it was so God damn boring and so defensive. Oh. I get chills down my spine thinking about it. I am grateful for the CL and the FA cup he won us! But it was actually Steven Gerrard who won them for us, and the final of 2005 I have never ever in my life watched a game that Liverpool football club was so outplayed and humilated football wise. A fair result of that match was 8 or 9-3!

I want BR and I want him to be given enough time! No changes, we need stabililty! We need to have PATIENCE.

Anonym

29 Apr 2013 21:09:06
I see yet another of my posts was removed yesterday due to abusive replys, i've been called on here racist, xenophobic and homophobic, I only need agoraphobic and claustrophobic and i've got the full set.

So after being called all these things my posts are shown and are then only removed because of abusive replys, think about that when you make accusations.

Also many of you have posted out and out lies about comments i've supposedly made about the manager and certain players so I will try and put you straight on what I think of things at Liverpool at the moment.

I hate the owners and have listed many times before why, I think BR was and still is to inexperienced to manage the club, but have and continue to support him at the game and hope he learns from some errors made and quickly develops into a top manager ( which he could well do, fingers crossed! )

I have my favourite players and players who I don't think are good enough, but I always encourage whoever is playing during the game and always have.

Suarez is our best player by a country mile and hope he stays, but I don't think he will IMO. How some people have posted that he's not as good as you think and takes something away from our play is quite frankly staggering, but that's you opinion and that's fair enough.

So to summarize, think before you accuse and lie because it just makes you sound bitter and twisted.

Waro

p. s. Eds if like last night you, Ahem. don't know what happened to my post! I would rather you just deleted my whole post leaving my name followed by "we will not post this", so I know were it went, rather than just not post it, thanks in advance Ed's.

Personally I see nothing wrong with your posts. I did see how one proclaimed how everyone hated you, how when the haven't met you I don't know. Maybe its because you don't pull your punches. Anyway we all have opinions. Mine on Suarez is that we should sell him. Purely because of the money he could generate which, used wisely could improve 2 positions instead of one. An overall stronger team instead of one fantastic player. A sacrifice if you want.

The Irish Rover

Yes I saw that Irish Rover, your correct about that but if they hate they hate, I don't care mate tbh.

I can see what your saying with regards LS but for me if you add quality world class players around him, that's what makes title contenders, rather than top4 contenders, but as I said there is an argument for what your saying.

Waro

Well Waro lad, I can't agree with the hating the owners bit, but we can't all think the same can we?

There's a hard-man keyboard mentality on here which winds us all up.

We all support the club in our own way, yet many support it in the wrong way, and some simply don't understand.

A generation is breeding football fans which turns the stomach.

DaveyBootle

Maybe i'm from the 80's generation Davey, stuck in my ways and used to seeing us as we were not as we are now. Maybe I should open my mind up to a new Liverpool, i'm sticking with The Stone Roses though, I will never open my mind to modern day music, ha ha.

On second thoughts, i'm right and everyone else is wrong, just kidding, or am I.

Waro

Never understood why people get upset if their posts don't appear.
It's not that important in the grand scheme of things.

Serge N'Gian

Hate is an extremely harsh word mate, and I think it a bit silly to hate anyone over a sport. If you dislike them fair enough, but your going over the top with hatred. Everything else is fair enough as its your opinion, just the hate thing I have a problem with.

KiwiRed

Waro you're entitled to your opinion and its as valid as anyone else's. Unfortunately some people will resort to hating when anybody disagrees with their view point because they don't have the intelligence to have reasoned debate.
However I can't be having the stone roses they're s****!

Disagree with Waro on the owners, (would be interested to know why he you hate them soo much), agree with with you on Suarez and like all, I do have my favorite players and players who I think are duds, but that doesn't mean I or you have to come out here at any given opportunity to blast them.

The real AG

Owners MAY change my view of them IF they secure huge onward investment such as stadia deal mooted. (still be known as Anfield anyhow) And sign of times. N. Castle was always referred to as St. James by regulars, not Sports direct Arena

29 Apr 2013 21:00:06
One thing I just wanted to mention. Why does everyone think Benteke is the dogs danglers. He's constantly being sounded out as a great player, but whenever I watch him he's static, a little clumsy and no better than Carroll in my opinion. I know he played well against us, but I put that more down to our inept ability to handle strong centre forwards, see Lukaku or even the lad for Oldham.

I don't deny he's talented, much like Andy Carroll. But he really doesn't suit our team, so probably wise to cross him off your dream list.

Papa G

Great timing of your post there Papa! :-)

The Irish Rover

Perhaps I shouldn't have written this. I'm about to get a lot of abuse, I can just feel it.

Papa G

Ha, benteke just scored twice papa g

Oh bollo***. I'm my defence, Sunderland are having a mare!

Papa G

Hat trick. sods law mate

kobi

Benteke has been a gem for Villa this season. From what I have seen of him he is far from clumsy but instead has a decent touch and is great at laying the ball off. Quite clearly the lad is a beast, incredibly strong and dominant in the air as we have witnessed in the games against Villa this season.
He has the makings of becoming a top striker and will command a high fee this summer for those that are interested. Btw what a talented a team does Belgium have with this current generation of players.

Papa think in this situation there is no excuse apart from the classic commentators curse

Todays game aside I agree mostly with papa, benteke's had a good first season but so do a lot of players, esp players who aren't that well known, Carroll and jelavic had awesome first seasons, were are they this year, what we need is proven players who are consistent for a couple of years, anyone else is a gamble

Bob bobbinson

Any chance you could have a pop at Borini please Papa.

Serge N'Gian

Carrolls been good for west ham scored some good goals for them when fit. i'd give him a chance in pre season with us if he came back with the right attitude

Papa my man, listen very carefully, have a dig at each and everyone of our players just when the game starts :P, this is essential to our success.

The real AG

Papa contact lenses are deemed more attractive and comfortable nowadays I believe

Yes yes let's all have a pop at borini. The useless guy couldn't even score while injured for 3/4s of the season.

29 Apr 2013 20:48:29
I hope this summer we make some intelligent, well jusged signings. Targeting three quality established talents, one centre half, one defensive midfielder and a right winger will benefit the side no end. If we focus funds on those area's, with perhaps another centre half, capable of playing left back then we're looking much stronger going into next season.

If you look at the current team, you'd hope with a years under their belt Borini and Allen will have a strong pre-season and settle a little more comfortably into the squad.
Sturridge and Coutinho will continue to flourish and shine, plus we'll have Kelly back fit and ready to take his chance.

I'm more than happy in future seasons to look to youth where possible and stop spending insane amounts on wages, agent and transfer fee's. Right now we need experience, all to often is the mentality and composure lost when the chips are down in our side. We don't have to spend large sums on experience, good scouting will find the right talent. At times it's players like Kuyt, who we have really missed at times. Those players might not have the legs, or skill of other younger alternatives but experience in big games can't necessarily be taught quickly and we do lack that in our squad.

One thing on the academy. I'm happy to say we finally have an academy scouting, signing and producing potential top class players. It's highly likely that many won't make the grade, even if they're top class at their respective levels. However of the current crop Ibe, Sterling, Yesil, Suso, Texeira, Wisdom, Robinson, Sinclair and McLaughlin all look like they have what it takes. Some will take longer than others to develop and some will just click, very soon.

Watch Sterling and Suso next year. I honestly feel, now the focus has shifted a little and they've had their debut seasons then we'll start to see more product to go with their immense talent next year.

I don't want to wish away games, but I am looking forward to next season. I'm more confident that next year, we'll find more consistantcy for a stronger push on silverware and a top 4 finish. We're not that far away, but this summer is crucial, more so than most in recent years. The competition will only improve and we really need to raise our game and start the season impressively. We left ourselves way too much to day after 3 months this season and that can't happen again.

Papa G

Well put Papa. Exactly my thoughts.

The real AG

29 Apr 2013 20:01:23
To some of numpties on here that are saying Suarez isn't that good and we are better off without him?
After beating a dire Newcastle foreign legion 11 by 6-0
I'd love to put them in the dressing room with Carra and Gerrard and let them debate with them as to why they think we would be better off without him!
I'm pretty sure they'd get shot down with their stupid theories! by them 2.
Example Coutinho was fantastic against Newcastle and I love the kid and the way he plays the game.
The previous week against Chelsea he was awful and couldn't get near the ball and was subbed at half time.
So keep it real!
Suarez is not only our best player he is also our most consistent and hardest working player.
We shouldn't even consider getting rid of him not least for the negative and devasting effect it could have on the squad.
A siege mentality and sticking together is the best way forward to the top 4.
As witnessed by the added intensity in our play at Newcastle which was nothing to do with Suarez not being there and all about having that the World is against us siege mentality. (something that Ferguson has used to his advantage when manutd have had problems)
I'm not saying Suarez shouldn't have got a ban.
I just think that like me the players and management think it was too heavy handed.
And they are determined to finish the season well and hopefully continue into next season despite the FA.

Excellent post Kid, couldn't have put it better myself!

Waro

Couldnt agree more Kid

I agree, some one mentioned earlier, sooner or later, we will miss the talent and ability of Suarez if he were to be sold.

The real AG

^+1 to on post.

29 Apr 2013 23:42:37
Innit lad, with out luis this season would ov been a real nightmare, and brendan probally would of been bin bagged by now, ok so we won 6-0 with out him, but that just shows that we are building a half decent squad, and by having a world beater like suarez shows other top players that we are still a top club that's on the up, we are and never will be a selling club, we only sell players who don't want to be here, that's different to a club like everton who sell the top players to survive (rooney), luis has said he will be here next year, ayre has said we won't be selling him, and brendan has said luis will be here and is vital to are future sucess, so why don't we just take it on face value, and believe luis will be here next year, and when we qualify for the champions league next year, be here for many years to come, fsg understand Liverpool need to be in europe's elite competion, so why would they sell the 1 player who can drive us there, with 9 games on his ban to go, I've taken the way of thinking that instead of a ban, say luis is injured, and out for. 4 months, but its better than an injury, because there's no rehibilitation, and because he's played non stop for a few years, (world cups, copa america) the rest will do him good! And he will come back, fitter and better than ever! POSITIVE THINKING! Y-N-W-A

30 Apr 2013 08:44:08
You don't think Gerrard and Carragher of all people would be totally disgusted by Suarez's actions?

We would not be as good without him, but he's becoming a liability, fast!

WelshBoyDave

Suarez superb like him or not even opposing fans agree. Some Ex players see him as are best and most influential player since Dalglish. With respect rather listen to their view then most on here

29 Apr 2013 19:59:27
Hey Eds do you know anything about the sponsorship deal from qatar? :) {Ed023's Note - No, sorry}

We sell suarez, were doomed!, he is by far the most talented and hard working player we have. we need to build around him, we won't get another player with his skill untill we are top 4 consistantly and we won't get top 4 without him IMO, FIREMAN U. S. A.

29 Apr 2013 19:46:27
What do you think that Liverpool needs more ed? A winger or an attacking mid? I think we need a winger of some sort after seeing Coutinho play down the middle. {Ed023's Note - For me, full back, center back, center mid/holding and a winger.}

My choices would be :

Cissohko (Valencia - they need to sell)
Williams (Swansea)
Another centre back (not sure who)
James McCarthy (I would love him but I believe Liverpool wouldn't be a good move for him. Villa if they survive will be a good move for him)
Tello (I think he is simply fantastic)

It will not turn out this way but.
Good fun!

For me:
Alderwield CB
Gustavo DM LB CB
Eriksen AM
Gaitan RW
Plus allow the kids to replace other outgoings.

29 Apr 2013 23:54:22
I think we should give little jay spearing a chance in pre-season for the holding midfield role, because by some accounts he's had a blinding season at bolton (named their player of the season), who to say a year in a tough championshop could of made him blossom, brendan has said he wants a scouse nuclous in the team, and with carra going, the defensive midfielder who we get will be behind lucas, so won't play many games (barring injury free, fingers cross), and jay won't be roscking the boat, if not selected. plus he loves Liverpool and will die for the badge, has I say its just an option, give him until september, and if he doeasnt make it, he can go back on loan!
I wouldn't mind that diame at west ham, maybe involve him in the andy carrol deal?

29 Apr 2013 19:31:44
Eds and reds,
Do you think Liverpool are looking for a powerhouse centre forward like Benteke?
Or are Liverpool looking at another technician like Ben Arfa?
Obviously these are just examples, but which type of player do we want/need?

Benteke! Though both good players

29 Apr 2013 19:54:57
If Villa go down any chance of Benteke? Seems a great prospect and would give us that power we need without compromising our play.

Y. N. W. A

I've lauded him for ages but been shot down often in players I rate. (And yea do get some wrong) But often by one poster and Ed'in particular on here. But I do make a call on players earlier then a lot on here

29 Apr 2013 19:41:52
apparently the Qatar deal isn't real, do you think LFC made it up to get a better deal from S&C? when a new contract is ready to be signed?

29 Apr 2013 19:29:57
I firmly believe that we should stick with Rodgers for next season. We really are not that far from being a top four side and most of the pieces are already in place.

Suarez is one of the league's top players, if not Europe's. We need to sort his temperment out and ensure he focuses on the good side of his game.

Coutinho and Sturridge have shown to be two fantastic signings; Coutinho is magical at times and Sturridge is player who can get us at least 15 goals a season.

Reina seems to be getting back to his best and Rodgers is getting a tune out of Henderson and Downing. Gerrard remains one of the top midfielders the league has to offer and Lucas is getting fitter and sharper with each game he plays.

Agger is a top defender and Johnson and Enrique, although they have been critcised for their defensive lapses at times, are more than capable full backs for a top four side.

Our future looks bright too with Sterling, Suso, Wisdom and the returning Kelly all looking like fantastic prospects.

As for Borini and Allen, well we spent £25m on the pair and they have struggled with injuries and form this season, but hopefully Rodgers can bring the best out of the two youngsters next season.

There are only a few issues to adress: for instance we need to shore up our defence and replace the retiring Carragher and the out of favour Skrtel this summer; we also need a physical presence in midfield.

Another issue we need to adress is depth. City and United have it, as do Spurs and Chelsea - hence they are more consistent throughout the season and can cope with injuries and suspensions - which is another telling factor as to why we are lagging behind them. I feel we need another forward and perhaps another creative midfielder.

All in all if we can get four or five good signings this summer, then we might not just be looking at challenging for a top four finish, but we may be on the tail of Chelsea for a top three finish.

Yours optimistically Irishdom

Thought your views were spot on wouldn't mind seeing carroll back just to give us a physical presence up front we could spend big on a world class center half and midfield henchman Mat hummels would do for starters

I agree that we should bring Carroll back - he'd offer us another route against teams that are tough to break down like Stoke or West Ham, and he's a ready made stand in for the suspended Suarez next season.

Hummels will be out of reach (for now at least) so at the moment Alderweireld, Williams, De Vrij etc seem more likely at the moment.

A couple of top midfielders to add to that and as I said - top four could be a reality once again.

Irishdom

Forget Matt Hummels.

29 Apr 2013 19:25:05
re- PFA AWARDS
gareth bale good player that he is is not a worthy winner of the player of the year award yes for the young player but not both. There are so many biased people against Liverpool iam suprised luis even got second. I am also suprised by the booing he got from so called professionals and the fact that they all seemed to enjoy the caberet with the and word being used on a number of occasions by Reginald D Hunter (fine comedien ) but for the FSG A to pick him for the award ceremony bit of a joke in its self. I will also be watching the awards on sky tonight hoping that with their H D cameras they can pick out the players who were booing luis suarez the same way they picked out luis biting ivanovic they had better pictures of luis teeth than his dentist has got but somehow I don't think they are going to catch the boo boys

And there's me thinking in a democrarcy you are allowed to boo, silly me

Not worthy of the award? Based on what? He was on the final list so as worthy as any player, had it been any of the finalists. Bale has been the best premier league player this season, FACT! If you don't believe me research who player and young player of the year was!

29 Apr 2013 18:49:02
Anyone think Steve Clark may try sign Carroll or get him on loan if lukaku stays with chelsea

Steve Clark is a class manager,
so no I don't think he will sign AC.

29 Apr 2013 18:22:50
Hey Ed's, great work on everything, I know this isn't really your area, but could I ask your opinion on these supposed "leaked" kits? I know they will be revealed in a few days, but I can't wait that long, I really hope they aren't the kits we'l be seeing next year, have you seen or heard anything regarding them?

Thanks for your time xxx {Ed002's Note - Sorry, I know nothing of kits and care rather less. Try the talk-fashion page.}

29 Apr 2013 18:05:16
I can't be the only one who fell a little bit in love with Coutinho over the weekend, that kid is going to be special

I forgot who suarez was when I seen him haha

29 Apr 2013 17:36:32
Is there any interest from Liverpool in Wilfried Bony?

Cheers {Ed002's Note - Try the search function.}

29 Apr 2013 16:27:30
Love how many people are saying sell suarez because we beat Newcastle 6-0? Yeah it was a great win but how can you judge on whether selling suarez after 1 game that's stupid.

I do agree he can be really wasteful but to start saying after one game get rid of him is stupid. After these next 3 games you can have some slight judgement but you cannot say we should sell him after 1 game!

London red

If it really matters what's the fan says than downing, henderson would been sold for 30 times already

Yeah good point mate I actually don't think we would have a team considering people were saying sell Gerard as well a few months ago

London red

I agree, the Newcastle score line had a lot to do with a poor Newcastle team giving us time and space like we've not had all season. Everton will not give us that and we'll miss Suarez then.

29 Apr 2013 16:24:42
Whats peoples views on renaming Anfield?As much as I don't really want too I believe you have to move with the times

Why don't we just become the Merseyside Reds as well?

Agree.

The real AG

If it means we are in a much greater position in the transfer market, I think it doesn't matter what it's called it will always be ANFIELD to me unless they build a new stadium. {Ed002's Note - The reason that Liverpool has issued the tender is to see how much money they can raise for the stadium work.}

Yeah I agree people will always call it anfield even if its got another name. I think it could be good for the club to explore anything that would increase turnover.

Red raj

29 Apr 2013 17:40:20
Ooredoo Soccer Kickers

Samsam9000 gets 20 points for the Pro Evo reference.

Its just more money for lfc to waste

Or - if Suarez stays you could re-brand as the Merseyside Sharks? ;)

HB

Be strange for first season then no one would care if they see the money spent on decent players it would probably have anfield in it somehow anyway something like the ooredoo anfield stadium

It did nt stop Arsenal, how many of their fans would want highbury back. kls

Arsenal fan hear, it didn't bother us because it was a new stadium built on a new location which wasnt highbury hill, I suppose if the money is right for lfc it would defo be worth consdering, but I would also suggest the mancs would have a field day on here if you do go down that route, baring that in mind it would need to be seriously big cabbage that would make a big impact on the transfer fund or stadium regeneration
for me to say yes if I was an lfc supporter
trev the gooner

As you mentioned though trev, the difference is that the new stadium wasn't Highbury anymore anyway. I don't think any of us would have cared about selling the naming rights to the proposed Stanley Park would we?

Ahh the impetuous of youth Sam. Sign of times kid. And I respect Fsg a bit more if this is their way (as well as more obvious reasons)-of conceding and admitting they cannot compete finance wise. At least their doing something about-and trying to Circumnavigate that fact

Wouldnt mind naming it the anfield coca cola stadium imagine getting sponsorship off them it would be a massive coup

29 Apr 2013 16:24:08
Hye eds.
what do you think of regarding the future of suso.
i think he would be very good in the future.
would he be sent on loan next season? {Ed002's Note - Too early to say.}

Of all the youngsters I was hoping Suso would feature more this season. In my opinion he is more gifted than Raheem. It has baffled me as to why Brendan has under utilised him this season especially when he has been on the bench in some games when we are two or three ahead. One thing we have lacked is creativity in the centre of the park and he can provide that. Hopefully we do not end up selling this lad because I can see him having a bright future.

Maybe behind the scenes he has struggled to cope with the pressures of playing for Liverpool so Rogers just took him out of the limelight to protect him don't worry he is important for us!

Still young needs to get in the gym work on his upper body and a loan would be good but hopefully a team which would suit his style were he gets a game and if being greedy a prem club something like cleverly when at wigan or wellbeck at sunderland brought them on leaps and bounds same would be good for sterling and shelvey

29 Apr 2013 16:21:57
Hello Eds,
has Liverpool shown any interest in any midfielders?
we surely need a quality DM and there are so many to look from gonalons, ahmedov, lars bender, neustadter, capoue, nordtveid, or luiz gustavo. Any one of them would do.

Also have we looked at any RW's other than Ince?
could Jeremy Menez be an option for RW. {Ed002's Note - I explained that Liverpool looked at a number of wingers in January with respect to a loan move. As for midfield players the club has shown interest in several including Inan, Praet and Eriksen.}

29 Apr 2013 15:49:59
Ed001 has lost his marbles.
Either that or the other Eds have kidnapped him and are making him post stuff.
The Juicer

29 Apr 2013 15:49:54
Hi ed's were being linked with every man and his dog, but I have a sneaky feeling that our real targets are being kept under the radar, would you say this is the case or not. {Ed002's Note - I suspect that the targets are reasonably well known right now.}

Reasonably well known by us if we were paying attention or by the clubs?

Some has been/no marks then?

29 Apr 2013 15:45:02
Hope work is going on behind the scenes to bring that extra bit of quality in terms of players. we need at least one central defender, an upgrade for Stewart downing, an attacking mid and possibly another striker. with finances limited the board are going to have to be very shrewd in there dealings.

Add to that a defensive mid aswell

29 Apr 2013 15:38:56
this summer we should only replace carra/skrtl/assaidi all 3 players need to be class. quates can leave we have wisdom/kelly to take his place. if we chose to send shelvey/suso out on loan we need another midfielder. what I am trying to say if we get 3/4 top players in and keep the players we have we will have a very strong squad. I don't think money will be the problem this summer with skrtl/carrol/quates/assaidi that's around 30mil +budget. I believe br wants carra to continue 1 more season because he will only buy 1 cb and is not sure if wisdom/kelly can be the back up yet. a player like eriksen is needed so he can rest gerrard and keep him at a high level for another 2/3 years. and another attacker/winger that will keep pressure on the attackers we already have to perform. we have enough players we need to sell and replace that's all. it makes no sence to have assaidi/quates in our squad when both never play from sunny malta

29 Apr 2013 15:27:57
The other day I posted that Sturridge will adequately lead the line for Suarez' 10 game ban, to which a reply disagreed saying he's injured every five minutes. 1st game since ban but scored 2 assisted 1, and he's now scored 8 in 13 since joining, not a bad return.

Anfield Andy

8 goals and 4 assists in 13 games must rank as one of the highest returns for a striker in the first 15 games we've ever had

29 Apr 2013 15:17:57
Apologies if this has already been mentioned but how the bloody hell did de gea get nominated he was shocking I can't get my head round that.

Keep up - he's been rather good in the last 6 mths. I know patience in young players is thin on the ground on this site but maybe Sir Alex is considering 20m for a keeper he may have for 10 yrs is good business.

29 Apr 2013 14:57:44
Is there chance of bayern coming in for Suarez I would take Gomez plus money {Ed002's Note - Bayern remain interested.}

I'm surprised at that, I would have thought now they had Goetze their interest would drop in favour of other people. Interesting {Ed002's Note - The dropped interest is in Oezil, not Suarez.}

Fair enough, thanks Ed002

Suarez would make them complete with Mandzukic in reserve.
Behind Suarez would be a midfield from Ribery, Robben, Goetze, Kroos, Martinez, Schweinsteiger and Muller, Luiz Gustavo wouldn't even get a look in!
Gomez would be too static for our style of play.

29 Apr 2013 14:37:41
I was looking at the results - losses aside, we had 12 draws, including 4 nil-nil's. Had we scored in those 0-0 games, we would have 12 points instead of 4 which would have given us 62 points - level with spurs. That tells me we have a lot of potential moving forward. Rodgers team is not the finished article. I'm personally very excited about the new summer signings - a couple of quality additions and we'll definitely be pushing higher next season

And we have been VERY unlucky in some of those draws, especially with Everton

29 Apr 2013 15:28:18
100% agree mate

Super

As long as those summer signings are something to look forward to I agree with you come on redmen

29 Apr 2013 14:23:41
Hi Ed's, Trust all is well in Rumour Towers? I would think it seems more likely that Reina will be staying no, due to recent comments and performances, would you agree? If not I think Begovic could be a viable replacement now, as I can't see any other suitors for him at a high premium anymore? Any updates on these situations?
Rob1982j {Ed002's Note - Maybe Reina will stay. My understanding is that Liverpool considered Begovic too expenses hence they turned interest elsewhere.}

29 Apr 2013 14:02:52
I know there is talk this morning of changing the name of our ground from Anfield to whatever is the highest bid, but honestly does it matter what the ground is called?
Lets take the money and invest in the team. we will still be called Liverpool, we will still wear red and the stadium won't change so please people do not get all nostalgic and crying for us to stick with Anfield as its our history. NO ITS NOT. The stadium, fans, players and trophies are the history of the club not the name of the bricks and mortar.

I for one welcome any invest we can get.

Kev the Red {Ed002's Note - The money would be to help toward the cost of the mods to the stadium.}

Has anyone met anyone who is not a paid official in football and has ever called St James Park anything other than St James Park?

Yes ed but the money from them for the stadium costs would allow fsg to add more towards new players {Ed002's Note - You don't understand the finances at all do you?}

Correct Sam-BUT YOU POSTED opposite other night!

29 Apr 2013 13:49:22
not a rumour! but I would like to see either any of these signing in the summer

Thomas Ince
Alexis Sanchez
Theo Walcott
Xabi Alonso
Christian Eriksen
Yann M'Vila

what are your thoughts Eds and the possiblity on each signing, and which one would you prefer to have in Liverpool which would make a difference?

thanks great site.

P. J. C {Ed002's Note - TRy the search engine for each.}

Oh dear oh dear! Bet you enjoy these ones ed! :)

Ince most likely. Slim chance of Xabi and no chance the others.

29 Apr 2013 13:36:32
Liverpool are planning on a bid for Adam le Fondre. See him as a decent sub to cover while Suarez is out for the first 5 games.

Squirrel

So Liverpool are buying a player to act as a reserve to our second choice, for 5 games

Have u never heard of building a squad

Have you never heard of quality over quantity? That's not building a squad, buying a striker who can't get starts in a team that got relegated is just wasting money

Stop making signings up

29 Apr 2013 13:18:25
Disgraceful scenes at the pfa, s last night, with the booing of Luis suarez. really does seem like a coordinated attempt to force him out of England. The guy has been punished for his actions, so why not let him be. The the whole event was a farce anyway, bale has not been a better player than suarez or Rvp throughout the whole season. Zaha championships player of the year ahead of Ince, who had more goals and assists, don't think so. {Ed002's Note - The players themselves voted.}

The problem is that not all players follow football in this country that closely, but they all get to vote. So hundreds of players all think about the division and remember that United bought someone from there, so he must be doing great and vote. wouldn't have been surprised to see Butland up there as well despite him doing very little of note

Bale deserved all that he got and will deserve the football writers award! Some people need to grow up!

Sam I hope you realise that its the players from here that vote. That means the players that have played against RVP and Suarez voted that RVP was the best player this year, maybe some politics in it but ah well.

I was referring more to the lower league ones, where their immersion in their own league is often a much lesser extent. I think we all know that on talent alone Suarez should be PFA winner but his lack of sportsmanship means he will never get that majoirty

As a United fan I thought Bale deserved the award personally! He's been class all season and hit a run of form for 15-20 games that singlehandedly kept winning games for Spurs. RvP and Suarez both had top seasons but I have no problem with Bale getting it.

I think some people get a bit sensetive about awards like these TBH just because it's a certain player or a player from a different team who wins. Theses awards are voted for by players so there really is no scope for moaning about who wins.

HB

I was just looking at past winners over it's 40 year history. Only 5 x Liverpool players have won this since 73/74.
A popularity contest.
Compare that to the Football Writers Player Award where 11 x Liverpool players have won in the same time period.
What does that say?
The Juicer

Is Samsam on a wind up? is h suggesting that players from other leagues determine who wins our Players Player.
To be honest that explains a lot of his posts

No, players from other leagues being less invested in their own league, because of the proportionately higher number of loans, the more movement of teams in and out of their league (teams get promoted and relegated) and the higher number of teams in the league to keep track of. And at least you can follow my posts mate, we wouldn't even know if you were an utter tit because you can't even sign a name. Sit down before you hurt yourself

Bale deserved award-Just!-But can't believe Suarez got booed!-What the Fk?Ban!-lower division persons at awards!-And who the FSG is anyone to stand in judgement of anyone else?-What happened to old glass houses or cast first stone adages?
Sure Suarez won't worry over tinpot players not fit to wipe his apse talent wise. But DO agree-Awful witch hunt. Same was done with Torres when his form dipped with his sulking. Its as if Manc Media goes-"Omg, this lot look like they could return to top again-lets destroy any good players they have!'

29 Apr 2013 13:15:17
Right, so Liverpool are looking for defensive replacements for Carragher, Skrtel and Coates.
Players like Kelly, Wisdom and Sama will step up this season.
However, we're looking for an experienced partner to Agger.

Liverpool are also looking to find players to replace Downing, Assaidi, Suarez and Reina, if the club and the players decide to part this Summer.
We would need to find quality and spend much money to replace them.

My question is Liverpool's midfield. Does Liverpool consider Gerrard, Lucas, Henderson, Shelvey, Allen, Suso and other academy players as enough?
Or are we looking for more talented youngsters to create cover and competition for the midfield? {Ed002's Note - I think there is every chance the club will add a midfield player.}

Do you know of any Defensive mids we've looked at eds apart from Iturra? Seems Lucas is the only option at the moment in that role. {Ed002's Note - Galatasaray's Selcuk Inan has been interesting Rubin Kazan, Liverpool and Tavriya Simferopol and whilst it was clear in January that nothing would be happening before the summer, AC Milan and Atletico Madrid has stepped in to seek discussions as early as possible. Gala has identified Alonso as a potential replacement, but I suspect he would prefer a return to Liverpool over a move to Turkey.}

Kelly, wisdom, sama no they wont

29 Apr 2013 13:14:20
Ed001, I've been saying what you've said for the last week and got much abuse for it. The way we have set up the team all season has been around Suarez, and averaging a goal every 6 shots is not good enough to be the focal point of our attack. Suarez would be no loss in my mind. He constantly breaks down attacks by trying to do too much or taking the wrong option. I believe he could be coached into a world class wide forward, and for that reason, would like to keep him, but he lacks the pace to play as the lone striker. It just means the opposition press us with a high line and force us to pass around in our own half. Sturridge forced Newcastle to sit deep so we could rip them to shreds in their own half. Walcott has been having the same effect at Arsenal for the last 3 years. I'm glad you are on the same page though Ed. Suarez is having the same effect as Gerrard did all them years ago. He's such a great individual, we are playing for him, not the team, but its becoming detrimental to our results in a lot of cases. The team is making Suarez look good, not the other way round. We are far from a 1 man team, but we could win every game till Suarez finishes his ban by 5/6 goals, and people will stil say we need him and that Henderson and Sturridge are not good enough. Gerrard has adapted to become a member of the team, rather than THE team, I just hope Suarez can do the same if he stays.

YNWA! (Adam)

No mate, Suarez makes the rest look bad. Not the other way round.
There's a difference there.
If they were all as good / confident / competitive then we would have a team.
The Juicer

29 Apr 2013 13:09:54
So fellow pros decided to boo suarez last night, pretty childish if you ask me. the guy did wrong and has been punished, should be end of story, but know the witch hunt continues. how many of those players who booed him live perfectly squeaky clean life's. suarez can rest in the thought that none of those fellow players can touch him in terms of ability.

A tad simplictic, yes he has been punished, but you wouldn't through your arms around the local scally for breaking into your car even though the police nabbed him and he got done in court would you?. saurez is obviously disliked by a section of his peers, he will have to live with that and if he wants acceptance from these people then LS will need to change his ways

Not heard about this yet but if true do not worry my friend this will only make us stronger. I am telling you we are still making waves as a team and you don't boo rubbish players. Sounds childish sayin it. Grown men boo-ing.

Let them crack on. Stick together lads.

Alfie

Grown men biting fellow grown men, isn't that childish. So the players are against yous now, add that to the FA, the rafs and the media.

Perth!

"Sounds childish sayin it. Grown men boo-ing. "

Yes because this never happens in football does it!

HB

29 Apr 2013 12:48:08
Just cause man city might want Rodgers doesn't make him a great manager. He has won notting yet and is still unproven at a top club, but to the haters unproven does not mean not good enough.
Also I think we have played better in games and lost

Look Kumber moyes is classed as a great manager and what has he won?

Rodgers did win the most fianancially rewarding trophy in the whole of the football world whilst at Swansea. The one trophy that you win more money than winning the Chamions League, or the World Cup, or the Premier League - the Championship play-off final.
So he has won something.

Well Rodgers is a good coach and a manager. but by no means the finished article.

I would like to see him being better at protecting the transfer values of the players.

Though there has been an improvement compared to at the start of the season, still there is a lot of scope for improvement.

Imagine selling Henderson to Fulham for 4 mil. that would have been a travesty.

But he is learning with every passing day and we have definitely seen him grow as a manager this season.

29 Apr 2013 12:44:51
Afternoon EDs, can you guys see lfc making any 'marquee' signings? Or even 'known' players? 2) I know everyone seems to reckon it going 2 b a big summer of spending do you think we will feature in the top 5 spenders in England? 3) bit of a none lfc related but was wondering with all the knowledge & tips u guys get can you see much business done between prem clubs this summer?
Many thanks guys. {Ed002's Note - (1) I have no idea who you would consider a marquee signing nor which players you ahve heard of and which you haven't. (2) I cannot sensibly answer that. (3) Some.}

We've already spent a fortune this year you fool. Those players will all be better/more settled/more experienced next season. This summer it's using sales to fund replacements so don't expect any marquee signings (unless Alonso's possible return counts as one). The only first team place being replaced is CB. Other signings are to add depth and put pressure on starters. Williams, Ince, young GK, second CB and defensive midfielder/deep lying playmaker. We've spent 50m net since Rodgers took over.

29 Apr 2013 12:44:29
I think Suarez will leave in the Summer. FSG business model is to play the market, If we receive a £40M bid I believe he will leave.
Although Suarez is one heck of a player he if very inefficient.

Selling a player whilst his stock is the lowest it's been for a year is playing the market to you? Hope you don't work in a bank

29 Apr 2013 12:38:05
I know I'm being a bit sentimental but to come back from 2 serious injuries with such eagerness and will to please speaks volumes of borinis character. He was told 12 weeks until returning to training and that he would be back playing games next season but he worked hard and got back in time, which may prove crucial considering luis' ban.
Borinis attitude is exemplary, let's hope he can start grabbing some goals and prove his worth!

29 Apr 2013 11:53:09
Would love to see young Ryan mclaughlin given a chance at right back next season. think he's going to be an outstanding player for us for many years to come. I honestly think think glen Johnson is very questionable and suspect at right back, this young lad (mclaughlin) is definitely the way forward.

No he is not ready he dives in, to put him in this team would put too much presure on him, he's just like robinson and flanagan

29 Apr 2013 11:46:40
Great result on the weekend, thought coutinho and sturridge were brilliant, especially coutinho. Bring on the everton game, let's prove once again that were anything but a one man team.

29 Apr 2013 11:36:56
Apparently suarez was booed at last night's pfa awards by fellow pros is this true, can anyone confirm this. {Ed002's Note - It is true.}

They also had Reginald D Hunter doing a comedy gig. He used the and word 9 times in his stand up act on the night.
Very embarrassing for the FA in my opinion.

Jonesred

29 Apr 2013 11:28:14
The ooREDoo stadium, anyone?

29 Apr 2013 13:17:12
Sounds too similar to a chocolate biscuit which I believe hails from the same realms as Ed002 ;) a nice biscuit I might add! (Although I've never understood the milk dipping fascination. )

YNWA! (Adam)

Dipping in milk is a practise that should be reserved for real doughy cookies and them alone. Anything else is a violation of the natural order :P Seriously though, the owners won't rename Anfield it will always be Anfield. They showed the same resolve and stuck by it at Fenway

29 Apr 2013 11:14:30
Is it just me or should the best young player award go to a player in their teens.

Red raj

Newcastle will survive this year, but I believe the problem lies with all the French players at your club, they just don't seem to have any fight in them. rafa would be an outstanding manager for you lot, you certainly wouldn't be in relegation trouble if he was in charge. I just couldn't see him working with Mike Ashley, and that other guy.

Absolutely. In my opinion it should be for players under 21.

The real AG

I thought that. I think anyone 21 and under should be classed as a young player. This day in age 23 isn't that young for a footballer.

I agree, U21. by the time he's 23, Luke Shaw and Jack Wilshere will have had 7 years of first team football. However, another way of doing it could bet that entry into player of the year (or winning it) discounts your young player of the year entry

Thought lukaku was best young player was he anywhere near it

29 Apr 2013 10:37:03
mag here in peace. Congratulations on your 6-0 thrashing over us you truly deserved it, our players were not up for the game and pardew as usual set us up to lose. As you were all there in your rafa benitez era, would you say he was one of your best ever managers maybe and would you say he brought you exciting, attacking football? I'm just asking because there are strong rumours on twitter that rafa benitez is being lined up as a replacement for pardew in the summer, I know it might be rubbish but just asking.
cheers

Rafa was never associated with attacking football

With a director of football he might be a good choice. But do not let him near the purse strings. Would love to see the public Battles between him and tight Ashley. Best of luck with the rest of the season.

29 Apr 2013 13:22:40
Rafas style will suit a few of your players to a tee. Cabaye will sit in the deep lying playmaker role (Alonso), with Tiote as your midfield destroyer (Mascherano). I think Sissoko will adopt the Gerrard role behind Cisse with Ben Arfa out wide. If he does become your manager, expect another pacy winger good on the counter attack (maybe Remy?) and some solid centre backs signed from the lesser known European leagues. Rafa would be good for Newcastle. and hey, he can't be worse than Alan 'one season wonder' Pardew ;) He will get you back up challenging for Europe (more likely Europa though), and he certainly loves a cup run!

YNWA! (Adam)

Nab's your best striker then comes to your team. This should be fun :P

Good luck shifting Pardew though - 6 year contract wasnt it?

29 Apr 2013 10:16:06
eds any chance that you can put just the agree button back at the bottom of the comments. I understand that the disagree button dnt help nothing but the agree button came in so handy.
wildwelshman {Ed002's Note - Not at this time.}

Not when you've got sick-minded individuals lurking about.

DaveyBootle

I miss the agree/disagree button too. I would be interested in knowing if the actual number of posts have gone down in number since they have been removed.

The real AG

29 Apr 2013 09:57:55
Question for the eds or Macca, with the possible investment from Qatari telecoms company does this mean possibly more money for transfers in summer? Do any of the eds have any idea how much money may be involved? Last but not least any information on munian? We were linked a while back and now he's had a poor season compared to last season, but are there any clubs interested? {Ed002's Note - See previous answers.}

29 Apr 2013 09:40:54
so the MODEL proffesionals vote for Luis and then boo him. am I missing something here. Who are acting like kids now

Agree. How disgraceful.

Professional's or luis?

To be honest its been a bit of a joke all season, I understand the united lot and some others booing him fair enough, but every ground? teams from lower leagues how he's never played against?, shows them all up a bit I think, suarez don't help himself but jealousy will always win I guess.

Southern Red

Disgraceful lol, worse than the act itself I imagine!

Ah, but Luis gave them the reason to act like morons! Its all his fault.

The Irish Rover

Luis acted like a stupid, petulant child to get this treatment. However, behaving in the same manner kind of negates any point they wanted to make

Luis can not be trusted, still being looked at over his international punch etc etc he never learns but more to the point he doesn't care as some one will give him a chance because when he plays he is fantastic but I think he is off the pitch suspended too often.

And you think luis is bothered

29 Apr 2013 09:31:22
I am the old fashioned sort who still likes to finish above Everton as small compensation for a mixed, transitional season.

I am sure you have all noticed that IF we win our last three games, then the Blues would have to win at Chelsea on the last day to finish above us in sixth place, a draw would see them finish seventh on goal difference.

Chelsea will need the points and, of course, the Interim One can do us a huge favour!

29 Apr 2013 09:04:21
We play more freely without Suarez. Rodgers tactics works without him. He tries to much on his own hand. We have won more without Suarez. Please sell

Take away 30 goals from this season and were in 17th place. Please keep {Ed001's Note - so you are saying that another striker up there would have scored 0 goals? Comments like this are just idiotic and show no understanding of the game at all.}

Top players show consistency and that what Suarez has given with his goals (eating players and getting banned aside). Although Sturridge has bags of talent, I still worry about consistency. When he is not up for it, he is out of the game. He's got to add this to his game.
To lose Suarez would make us significantly weaker
G

Early days to be saying that mate we got a couple more games to go see how we look then

Absolute rubbish OP, we have certainly won more games with Suarez than without him.

Wait till all the 10 games are up then judge how we have done without Suarez. If we lose the next few games then i'm sure many of you who say we are a better team without him would change your tune!

Red Lee

Another striker would unlikely score 30 goals, Ed, unless be bought Ronaldo. The point is still relevant, not personic. Suarezs goals have been a huge factor in our league position. Borini, in Suarez's place, would not create or score as many

29 Apr 2013 08:44:25
Things I hope to happen in 2013

-Liverpool to sign D. Sturridge and hopefully another forward in the Jan transfer window

-Gerrard to get back to even close to his best

-Liverpool to finish in the top 4 in the PL

-The fans/supporters that get to attend the games to find their voice back! (Esp at Anfield)

-Trolls to stop infiltrating the this site

-People to start UTFSF/reading the posts before they post and stop asking the eds the same recycled questions

-Seeing and hearing less of Alan Pardew

-Old whiskey nose retiring at the end of the season and the nurses finally coming for him before the old man cracks it!

United Kolours Of Bennetton

This is a post by me from December and its made me think how funny how things turn out.

We got Sturridge and boy is he settling in nicely! I did ask for another forward and we got a little Brazilian no 10 {who I hardly knew anything about if I'm being honest} and we find out he's magician with a football! If the recent combination of Coutinho and Sturridge continues to produce the kind interaction that we've seen recently then I'm optimistic for next season!

Gerrard is playing better than he was in the first half of the season and you can still see he has the quality that he's shown for years. He will need replacing soon though as he has 2/3 left most likely {Rossiter maybe?}. I'm hoping next season that Captain Stevie drives himself to give it a big push next season. To bring out those last bits of world class quality he has left in his body. Fingers crossed!

Top 4 went when we lost to West Brom and if I'm honest it prob really went when we drew with Arsenal and Man City. we really needed to win those games and its so bloody fustrating. Will we get top 4 next season in my opinion? Maybe, but we have to go in all guns blazing in the summer transfer window!

I have not got to Anfield this season, so I'm only going off people that I know that have been and the opinions of others that I know. I hear its been better recently then the almost hush like atmosphere that was spoken of earlier this season. For those on here that have attended Anfield recently, how has the atmosphere been? Same question goes to any eds that have been also.

In terms of the troll and the search function, its got better I think with the introduction of the log in/signing up feature that the eds have set up.

Sigh, Alan Pardew is still around. However, the shot of his face when Sturridge's second goal went in on Saturday was absolutely priceless LOL! We really have scored some beauties against Newcastle this season! {Not that I hate Newcastle, I actually really like them. its Pardew I can't stand!}

Them lot won the title again the other day, so hopefully Taggart feels like his work is done at Old Toilet and decides to go away!

Funny how things work out.

Certainly entitled to your opinion about Pardew in professional terms, but personally he is honestly a good guy. He was very welcoming and supportive to me when I was an apprentice at Reading. He was the reserves coach at the time. That went a long way for me, being a 15 yr old American in a foreign land. He's a funny guy and always bustin chops, but when training began he was all business and the players respected him. I still get a laugh remembering him calling me "oil tank" when I arrived at the club.

Hey FL RedFish - nice insight! Are you still playing these days?

HB

Thanks HB. Nowadays I'm simply a sunday league warrior over here in the states :) Hung up my real boots a long time ago.

29 Apr 2013 07:51:34
Hai Ed. Hope things are fine and keep the good work.
I was just scrolling down and saw some people here already sold suarez 50 mill and buy two players.
for some. suarez looses possession.
for others he is a liability.
My God.
I hope and I am sure. these are pretty much new fans. suerly not 6 months old.
coz. they were invisible 6 months back. when one man was carrying the proud of Liverpool FC.

I would personally sell him coz. the passion he shows on the pitch, the commitment he shows on the pitch, the hardwork he puts in week in week out. is only matched by Steven Gerrard.

Or else I am watching a different game.

People want money from suarez sale, 40 mill, 50 mill. seems he owes us 50 mill.

He has became a disgrace to Liverpool Fc?

I think the day we were out of top 4 and we were comapred as midtable medicore club, we became disgrace, luis suarez haven't added any fuel in it.

And I am happy that inspite of all these controvorsies sorrounding him, he is still wanted by the top and best club in the planet.

Apart from FA and our fans, None of the managers have condemmed his actions.
suerly fans knew better than arsene wenger and manchini.

and btw I wanna ask anyone of the fans who thnks he is a liability, show me one min on the pitch when you felt he wasnt giving his 110% for the club.
one match or even a min.

luis suarez : we walked through you in your good times. and I promsie I will walk with you thorugh your bad times.

Ed please post this.
probably my last post.

harry scousser
ynwa {Ed001's Note - so all that matters to you is coming top four? What about the good name of the club? What about the way his actions overshadowed what should have been a day all about the great Anne Williams and her fight for justice? He carried nothing, he was part of the team, he holds us back in some games with his greed, other games he shines, but in no way has he carried us. Such a childish viewpoint, just like when it was Gerrard we would read was carrying us. It is simply not true, I fail to understand why I am reading these ludicrous comments about his greatness, when he has wasted more chances to score than any other player I have ever seen! Fair enough, he has created a lot of those chances on his own, but he then wastes them time and time again. Playing him up top on his own has cost us as much as it gained us, his lack of pace has enabled opposition to push up and restrict our space to pass, making it harder for us to play our game and giving them the opportunity to force us into mistakes. We need to have a player like Sturridge up there, if we are going to make the most of our system.}

Agree 100% with Ed 001. a lot of goals he scored were all in games where we thrashed the opposition and he would score a brace or a hatrick. we would win far but only get 3 points (obviously) hence our giant goal difference compared to our log points. In all the games we dropped points he had so many guilt edge chances but fail to score costing us points. that's why for the last 2 seasons we have dropped so many points when we should have won certain games. I could not be bothered if suarez leaves us. No player's bigger than the club and I believe we will be better off without him. my statement is backed by our 3-2 victory against West Ham and 6-0 drubbing at Newcastle

Harry's last post? As illegible as his first. Credit to consistency

You don't half post some bull mate.
Redgrant

29 Apr 2013 10:32:29
No Samsam.
I am taking a break. enough. I ll just read the opinions here.
No more post.
To all my fellow fans.
You will Never walk alone

Get a grip boys and ed001 in particular. Try and calm this situation down for christ sake. Suarez is a great player and yes he screwed up in a match where he should have been on best behaviour but maybe he was just desperate to win.

Maybe we all set an example and stand together for a change. All this in fighting is getting unbelievable and makin us a laughing stock.

Hopefully after a great performance at Newcastle Luis will see that if he plays more as a team player he will hit far more goals. He is very young still you know and learning, and yes I will be standing by any player who wears our shirt.

As I have done with Henderson and Lucas who done absolutely nothing wrong but try to learn their trade at our club.

Unity boys, unity.
Alfie {Ed001's Note - sorry but once or twice, yes back the lad, but this is every single season of his career he makes idiotic decisions. The example to set is not to buy these kind of nutcases ever again. They do more harm than good.}

Ed001 is absolutely spot on with his comments. Couldn't have said it better myself.

Anyone else bet that Harry Scousser can't resist posting again soon? :)

HB

I see the Suarez hate is still bubbling along quite nicely!

Sorry ed001 I can't agree with you on this on we should try keep suarez long story short especially the way him and sturridge linked up for the two goals two weeks ago he is the type a player who plays on the edge embrace him don't judge one of our own we should stick together!

All the self righteous posters lining up to have a dig and mock another poster. Disgraceful and pathetic. I bet you Harry can speak and type English better than you can with his native language Samsam.

The Irish Rover

You some boy to have a pop at anyone Rover, you do the exact thing you're giving out about.

Harry is English Irish Rover

Try the search function Red Branch then I will accept your apology.

The Irish Rover

Yes Ed I'm hearing you. But as with all things there are a load of positives and negatives and its a no win argument. Which is why this will roll on and on but let's not fight each other.

Seems there are a lot of young lads coming on here which is great and we need to help them understand what made us such a great club.

Not just this situation but also a lot of other comments that are made. We have made great strides over the last few years and are in a very good place and what comes with that is a fear from other clubs of our re-emergence.

Were you there when shankly built what we know now? My dad was and I've been brought up with them stories and lived through many of my own. Well this could be what is being built again and I do believe so. How cool is that for us all to live through.

Suarez may or may not be a part of that but as it stands he is, and I hope he can prove everyone wrong. It's a shame really because he had started to change everyone's opinion before this.

Alfie {Ed001's Note - how old do you think I am? My mother was barely around for Shanks and she is ancient (and going to kill me if she sees that comment!), I am not that old! I barely remember anything prior to Dalglish taking charge. Unfortunately, my first really strong memories of football were during the Souness era, and that was hell. I would love to be lucky enough to live through a Shanks-type revival though! By the way Ed002 and Ed003 remember Shanks playing days well.......}

29 Apr 2013 18:47:19
@ ed001 just goes 2 show how good this site is bringing fans of diff gen together. keep up the good work. many of u have been lucky to witness the 80s. for a 17 yr old Indian (more of a cricketing country) started watching from rafas last season. I do hope to see see our remergence ( as in shankly's era) and hope to visit anfield one day. btw ed001 how much do u think will cost for me to visit for a game next season including flights, tickets, accomodation etc just a big round figure? would love hearing from u or anyone else.
LIVERBIRD

You started watching Rafa's last season and have stuck with us? Nice one mate!

29 Apr 2013 05:48:35
how is rio ferdinand in the team of the year? he is average at best these days? and de gea also, yes he has had a decent season but he's got a much better defence than most other teams and would have like to seen maybe mignolet or begovic in it. as for defenders distin sticks out as he's had a good season. I also thought steven gerrard would have possibly got onto it. any one got any thoughts on who could/should be in it instead?

ben

Ferdinand has been outstanding this season

So Rio is 'average at best' yet DDG shouldn't be in it because he's got a 'much better defence than most other teams' - is it me or does that not contradict itself? Who are these awesome defender's DDG has had in fronty of him - surely they should be in the team of the year also?

Personally I agreed with the team of the year nominations and thought Bale deserved player of the year 2.

HB

Hate to say this but Ferdinand played brilliant football this year.

Leon Osman, Michu and Benteke notable absentees. I'd play Osman instead of Carrick every day

I think Ferdinand is about equal with a couple of other CB's this year - I have no particular issue with him edging them to it. De Gea was a poor pick for me though - Begovic, Krul, Vorm and Cesar have all produced the same consistent level of keeping as De Gea, plus having more exceptional moments

"I'd play Osman instead of Carrick every day"

Irrelevant mate - this is team of the year for who has performed best throughout the whole season. Anyone who knows what they're talking about will tell you Carrick has been among the best CM's in the league this season and certainly a level above Osman (who I do rate BTW).

HB

Samsam9000

Cesar has been anything but consistent, world class in some games but amateurish in others.

I think Begovic, Mignolet & Vorm have all been good and should have been in with a shout.

DDG got 2nd most clean sheets, best shot-to-save ratio, pulled off the most 'worldie' saves and helped United to the title. So I don't why he shouldn't have got it, although I would have put Begovic particularly close to him.

HB

HB - rafael, evra, evans, vidic, smalling, jones. are these not other defenders? so no i'm not contradicting myself when saying they have a better defence. rafael especially had a very high chance of getting into the TOFY. kompany has been better although he has been injured of late and as I said before I think distin has been great this year. maybe i'm just being biased and unfair, especially when he snubbed england and still went to dubai, but I wouldn't have put him in my team.

ben

You are wrong HB.

1) DDG, doesn't have the 2nd most clean sheets, Cech has. DDG is tied 6th.

2) He doesn't have best saves-to-shot ration, Jaaskelainen does. DDg is 11th.

Also for whether he has pulled of "worlides", that is objective.

Helped UTD to the title, or rather been in the championship winning team is what tipped it in his favor.

The real AG

The real AG - on points 1 and 2 ooops! :) Thanks for correcting me, I swear I read my 'facts' online only yesterday, perhaps I should have checked my figures!

You're probably right that's what swung it for him. I also think a proportion of players will have voted for him due to him proving many of his doubters wrong - he had a lot of unfair critisism early on this season IMO. Most of the media were still hyping Hart and slating DDG when Hart kept making costly errors and DDG has improved consistently.

The rest is all subjective I agree but I honestly can't think of any keeper who has performed better since Christmas (perhaps on a similar level but not better) and I think he made some notable top quality saves which would have stuck in people's mind e. g. last minute save with his legs from Mata and the tip onto the post v Fulham.

HB

P. s. meant to add - I think Begovic and Mignolet have been class this season and should have been up there with DDG. I wouldn't have been disappointed to see either of the other 2 win it (would probably have voted for Begovic) but I can see why DDG was given it and as a United fan I'm glad for him to get that confidence boost.

HB

Now that's what I call taking criticism on the chin! Unlike some of your buddies , you come with excellent banter, a third-person point of view into LFC related stuff and mostly well thought out replies, mostly. :P

I agree with you on DDG and Begovic. The one thing that I am very impressed about Begovic is his command and judgement. He rarely misses a cross that he comes for and never really makes a mistake. I think overall he is the best in the PL, though Cech has been consistent himself.

Kudos for accepting your mistakes, rare to find in people these days, especially from your most fiercest rivals.

A rather happy The real AG

29 Apr 2013 05:31:57
I have a feeling that next season we'll have some stability and a good season overall. Real progress you know. For the past seasons someone or the other have been moved and others replacing these players have not settled properly or had injuries. Now the players of previous season ( Downing, Hendo, Enrique) are having a really good season IMO. So really positive for next season given we don't sell important player this time! Hoping for a fit and confident Allen next season, really believe he hasn't even shown a glimpse of what he can do! 2 CBs, 1 def mid (cover for lucas) and a playmaker or winger would help a lot.

29 Apr 2013 04:56:57
Would it be fair to say that a centre half is a top priority and I've seen an ed mention a winger (tom ince) to be the main targets early on? also just looking for ed 1s opinion on wether he feels that a strong ball winning central mid would really benefit us just for different games and rotation for Lucas? They three signings with the youngsters getting more games next year will see us up there. sterling and suso are as good as any wing/forward youngsters around and wisdom is a beast. Kelly to be fit all next year and Robinson back from a good loan at left back. {Ed001's Note - yes, we desperately need bite in midfield, we only have Lucas in there at the moment.}

Maybe Kevin Strootman?

29 Apr 2013 10:28:24
In that case Ed, should we play Suarez in midfield?

29 Apr 2013 03:54:57
What people should realise, is.
"Without Luis' goals, we'd be down the tube" implies that without his goals, we'd be missing that total in it's entirty.
No. We'd be missing his goals, yes. But, we'd be seeing goals scored from other players.

The system we play truly involves the entire team. We've had to alter that system in order to let Luis have free reign. Personally, i'm happy to see how we do without him.
When he's not suspended, if he's dropped, he causes a major disruption to everybody with his displays of petulence. Some call it passion, I call it petulence. If he truly wanted to help this club and not himself, he'd take the bench when it is requested of him. But, no. He has a hissy fit, while the other players must watch in disbelief.
He is not irreplacable, and I firmly believe he sold stop bein treated as such.
The rest of the team will score the goals for him. I've said this many many times. That we focus around one player too much and we eventually feel that backfire when the player leaves. BR should be given the power to sell Luis, because I also believe the decision to keep him comes from higher, and it's not fair to a manager to be taken from what he knows and alter his style to suit one man.

No, this isn't because of the win. I said a similar thing about Gerrard one day. Hold on. Not the petulence and that we shoud sell. But, that we put too much pressure on him, and ourselves in expecting him to win matches for us.

Red7.

29 Apr 2013 09:38:07
That we focus around one player too much and we eventually feel that backfire when the player leaves. BR should be given the power to sell Luis, because I also believe the decision to keep him comes from higher, and it's not fair to a manager to be taken from what he knows and alter his style to suit one man.

Mate. we have been revolving around one player from past 10 years. and his name is GERRARD.

you know what's the differnce between city and UTD this seaosn.
RVP and his goals.

29 Apr 2013 09:35:09
So what's your point mate?
daniel sturridge and countinho will be enough to guide us into Top 4?
and u believe Liverpool adjusted to the way luis wanted to play?
get a grip. he plays nevery game becoz he truly deserrves to play.
I call it as the sheer passion, commitment and hardwork and that's the nsole reason, one of the biggest club in europe want him.
6 months back, if you remeber, it was only luis suarez only luis suarez,
and now all of a sudden he has become a liability?cant believe some here calls themslef. true fans.

Don't get too carried away with our win
We beat a terrible newcastle side
We need Luis
We will miss his magic if we meet a strong team with good defenders
I notice that when Luis did good everybody shut up and cheered his goals but when Luis did wrong all of a sudden we want him leave and shout that he hold back the team
For all the points we dropped I think it is unfair to blame all on Luis

Indonesian Reds

29 Apr 2013 03:20:36
To say we don't need Luis is folly. The only person can stop is himself. I mean he is his own worst enemy and if he learns from this ban and can get long lasting victories over his bad temper with some help then we will have a player on our hand that is one of the best in the world. Just think about it, he scored 30 goals so far this season, he almost became PFA Player of the Year, he always gives 110% when on the pitch and basically never injured (thank God!). Some players spend half of the season or longer out injured. The English media is trying to suggest after us beating a very, very weak NUFC that we don't need Suarez. b*******! A team that wants CL football should have 3-4 quality strikers, we aren't in the position of losing a talent such as Luis. Even with his problems and baggage he contributes way more to the team than some other players at the club! Didn't Rooney have problems or other charismatic strikers, please, don't be a hypocrite! Let's keep Luis, get some more Coutinho, Sturridge-like signings in the summer and we could start to talk about 4th place finish next season!

HK

29 Apr 2013 02:12:32
I for one don't believe Brendon Rogers will go anywhere.
He has always come across to me since joining Liverpool that, developing a young squad with a BR style is a life passion for him. He has the backing of the owners and chairman who share his same vision. Progress has been made in his first year, be it average age, wage bill, style of play, points tally (more than last year, and scored more goals "FOR" since 08/09 season, with games remaining)
He has the support of the players and most fans and "seems" to have a geniue passion for the fans, history of, and the club.
I can't see him leaving for $$$ due to how much he has put into Liverpool FC already, and how much potential we have going forward. This is his Baby and he will want to see it through.

IMO of course.

Tilwud

I agree.

Did you see his house on being Liverpool? He certainly doesn't need the money.

ri red

29 Apr 2013 05:11:12
If there was no Downing to cover Glen Johnson, then GJ would be a meal to any opposition left winger! Really hard worker Downing.

KrishnaYNWA

That's why we play them though. If we didn't have Downing (and Kuty before him), Wisdom and Kelly might well have gotten a lot more games

29 Apr 2013 02:08:29
Boot room blarney - in the summer we should sort out defence, I would love carra to stay as back up one more season, get a pacy centre back alongside agger, another left back to replace enrique, enrique to replace downing at left mid another right back to replace johnson with johnson pushing up right mid and lucas pushing up more- his more natural position -so a replacement DM, If Suarez goes then another striker but if not then we ok with 4 replacements as mentioned and we probably have two already in kelly centre back and wisdom right back not sure about the latter of the two but as he young he may shine, that leaves two left to sign if Suarez stays and with others being sold and even with a smaller budget we should well have enough for a top left back and a top dm in the ya ya toure mould this way we don't destroy whole team like QPR but phase either two or three in gradually yes hard to beat at the back, line can push up which squashes the play and with the goal stats- for- only second behind united with games to go I think next season could be quite special.

Put all the defenders upfront and then replace them with other defenders and we'll be fine!

29 Apr 2013 00:13:07
Hi Eds not really a rumour more of an inquiry, any chance we could get a player of the diame mould to sit in front of the defence as Lucas has looked somewhat off it since his return from injury and could we add a world class centre half to our ranks of the Badstuber or Dante ilk maybe Dede as a cheaper option or Sakho and finally any chance of someone like Muriel or Aubameyang up top with bags of pace to put next to sturridge. All of which I see as realistic targets with the injection of funds from Fenway and player sales especially if we sell Suarez which doesn't look impossible. Also this is a whim decision based on today's relegations but if Reina is still up in the air could we have a look at Julio Cesar? Thanks EDs

Diame of west ham? Will go to either spurs or arsenal? Possibly spurs with parker returning to west ham?

29 Apr 2013 00:16:38
Top six will show progress this season, three or four signings that could make the same impact Coutinho and Sturridge have had and top four is a certainty,

Mozzer