Liverpool Banter Archive July 29 2014

29 Jul 2014 23:11:56
Banter please eds.
Just playing fifa 14 (I usually do at this time of year with no prem to look forward to) and who should pop up.dani Pacheco! What ever happened to him, I understand he's now at betis but I expected him to be the next big thing. So to take the attention of signings and borini! Who were you guys expecting big things from only for them to disappear into obscurity?

29 Jul 2014 23:37:16
Mark Gonzalez, Harry Kewell and of course Fernado Morienties, to name a few!

Ryan Babel surely has to be up there! His potential at the start of his career was huge. I suppose Fernando Morientes & Aquilani also fall into the big flop in relation to their quality/price tag category. Admittedly I also thought Joe Cole was going to turn out to be the signing of the century lol.

29 Jul 2014 23:49:16
Has to be Ryan Babel for me, looked amazing at the u-21 World Cup. Looked like he had everything to be a star; pace, power, height, powerful shot, and could go past players. Also big Henry fan so the skilful fast winger turning to striker made me think he could be like him. turns out he had very little between his ears and apparently less dedication (least what I heard). Though always has that goal against arsenal in the CL, great night that!

Well with all the hype surrounding them.
Pacheco
Bruno Cheyrou
Anthony Le Tallec
Neil Mellor
Andy Carrol
Connor Coady
Danny Wilson
Salif Diao
El Hadj Diouf

Florent Sinama Pongolle! I even got him on the back of my jersey. That's how much I thought this guy was going to be the next big thing!

{Ed007's Note - The next big thing was your top if you had that on the back! I've got a Jan Vennegoor of Hesselink tattoo... ;)

30 Jul 2014 02:25:15
Don't mention tops have a keane, aquilani and a Carroll!

{Ed007's Note - What did they sing?}

30 Jul 2014 07:57:52
I got a Fowler top once about a week before he was sold by Houllier

Sounds like a very shoddy firm of solicitors! :)

30 Jul 2014 09:46:19
I used to have a Riise and Alonso shirt, along with I'm ashamed to admit a Torres shirt!

Bought some Umbro Owens the year before he left! Part of why I became a young fan over in the states. I think they were 90 dollars :)

The list is huge, Cheyrou, Diouf, Le Tallec, Pongolle, Kewell, Biscan, Carroll, Morgan, Gonzalez, Pacheco, Babel.
These were all players we were led to believe were going to go on and make Liverpool the best team in the world again only for them to massively disappoint!
They were all massively talented individuals who due to injuries or bad attitudes or just not developing the way that was expected all faded off into obscurity.

Paletta, Kvarme, Cole too

29 Jul 2014 23:03:30
Greizmann signs for atleti then. Rule that one out posters n move on. Is ruess really possible, isco, son, the list goes on and on and on

For me we really need someone who is going to put fear in to, the opposition. Last yr other players scored because the opposition focused on Suarez allowing others time n space they won't now be afforded. If opposition stick two on sturridge he won't get many goals so need that player to create space and problems. Appreciate lallana and marcovic will do this as will lambert when played but they won't necessarily score the goals we need to challenge. I'm pleased, with the additions but think they would have come anyway as BR wanted a bigger squad 4 CL so now we need the LB and a 2nd striker and we will be a title challenge again

Sturridge, Sterling, etc. equally created space for Suarez. I have no idea why people seem inclined to try and give credit for all of the goals the entire team scored to Suarez.

Maybe we should've kept Suarez and waited until October for him to put fear in the opposition?

Or maybe we can get a better goalie, we can win games 1 - 0 and still win the prem, last season showed me its not what you score but how many games we win, we did score over a hundred goal and still never won the prem, we made too many mistakes which led to goals and conceded too many goal, so imo we need a better goalie

Forgot to add Jackson Martinez to the list, is he likely to move eds and are we/have we shown interest? Older player (well He is 29! Whilst me n eds001 are both 40! That's old) but still doing the business and tim vickers of bbc rated him highly as an 'out n out goal scorer'

29 Jul 2014 21:38:43
Fellow Reds and Dear Eds,

Just a quick postcard from my holidays in Denmark,
Jan Molby and Dan Agger land! Really loving it, beautiful place and the Danes are just fantastic people,
hope Agger stays and we sign even more of these Danish guys to sign for us and we get Carlsberg back as our shirt sponser. Spent today one one of the massive beaches here with the family. Hope all is going well with LFC, looking forward to the start of the season, to 'we go again' - made up Gerrard retired from the England rubish. Take care all and Eds - take a holiday or at least a day off!

yours RedAce.

29 Jul 2014 19:29:39
According to reports, Liverpool have met Bayern Munich's £17m valuation of Swiss winger Xherdan Shaqiri.

Liverpool have apparently also agreed personal terms with the young star, meaning that a move to Anfield appears imminent for the talented midfielder.

Shaqiri had reportedly been willing to stay and fight for his place at the Allianz Arena, however Pep Guardiola refused to give him the assurances of first team action that he was looking for.

Hope these reports you heard are not true, imo we don't need another winger, a LB and quality striker would be enough until jan at least

Where are these reports coming from? Hope it's true :-D! Doubt it though!

This story was reported 3 days ago.

29 Jul 2014 19:07:42
Simple question, wouldn't mind 01 to answer as well as posters. Should we be so quick to disregard Coates. Let's look at the time line. When bought, he was regarded as an up and coming star in South America. Winning the young player of te tournament at copa America. Under kenny, he very rarely got a game, and when as his appearances were so far an few between, the guy looked on egg shells any time he got a game. Then I think many will remember the Oldham game, in which their big cf bullied our back four, and to be honest, not one of our defenders came out of that with any glory, I remember people calling or skrtle to be sold after that. Then the knee injury that put him out for the season as well as his loan move. Now we are here in pre season, and well, he's looking pretty damn good! Maybe because the pressure is off, he's expecting to move and doesn't care? Allowing him to relax and play his game. Despite his lack of speed, I see many many pros to his game. Heading, obviously, he is strong, his long legs make it hard to go around him, his position is great, he's techniqually very good and comftable on the ball, aswell as a good passer, who doesn't mind throwing a long diag now and then. So my conclusion, I'd like to give him a shot. I'd like sakho and lovren as our cbs, with ilori to replace rcb and Coates lcb if either of those two miss a game. Sorry for the long winded post, but I really think he deserves a chance?

{Ed001's Note - he is an excellent player technically, but he falls to pieces when it gets rough and fast. Sorry but I don't see any signs of him making it with us the way we play. Waste of time judging in friendlies, Voronin looked top class in them in previous years, so anyone can do.}

Too slow, too clumsy, not good enough.
You can't judge players on Pre season friendliest, he's been around long enough to win over Managers and Fans,,, time he moved on

It wouldn't surprise me if he excelled in the Italian League.

How fast was sammie and carra, all he needs is game time in the prem, when he came here he was very young at least give him the same chance as johson gets, I don't know why GJ isstill at the club, he is getting worse each season, I really can't waite for him to go as it will free up his wages and his spot in the team

30 Jul 2014 01:37:36
V quick t criticise Coates , looks decent whereas Johnson should be arrested for impersonating a defender!

Dbol, clumsy? You must be talking about your posts, as he's far from clumsy.

29 Jul 2014 18:29:29
Hi Ed001, do I remeber you saying it was your 40th birthday today? If so . happy birthday to you, happy birthday to you, happy birthday dear Ed001, happy birthday to you!

{Ed001's Note - cheers mate, you have a great memory, it has been a good day too. Just got back from seeing Transformers 4, which was boss, to us signing a new striker, which is even more boss.}

Happy Birthday Ed001
Thanks for your commitment to this site

{Ed001's Note - cheers mate. It is still my baby, I am just hoping this baby doesn't suddenly grow up and talk about 'hot boys' while I am in earshot!}

29 Jul 2014 21:37:09
Transformers 4?! Oh deary me Ed001, clearly your judgement and knowledge of films isn't as good as your football haha!

{Ed001's Note - I grew up on Transformers! Not keen on the previous one, but this one was much better than any of the other 3. I am guessing you haven't seen it so are in no position to be anything other than judgemental! You sound like my daughter, she didn't want to go either, but loved it.}

29 Jul 2014 21:54:18
What about hot strikers Ed001? ;p

{Ed001's Note - if they were hot, I am sure my daughter would suddenly develop a proper interest in football!}

29 Jul 2014 22:01:22
You know a lot more about football than films, because Transformers is an abomination to the medium of cinema.

{Ed001's Note - have you seen the new one? Or are you another judgemental type who decides something is crap without even taking a look? I enjoyed it, and not just because the woman sat next to me was stunning either, though that might have helped.....a little.}

Yeah Ed001 happy birthday! Your comments are always top notch, keep it up!

{Ed001's Note - thank you mate.}

29 Jul 2014 22:13:59
Happy birthday ed01 not much older than me my 40th on the 11th Aug your like me just when I started going into the pub we stopped winning leagues maybe that will change now.

{Ed001's Note - I was going to the pubs quite a bit earlier than you then! And thank you mate.}

Many happy returns Ed. All the best and thanks for all your hard work.

{Ed001's Note - thank you mate.}

Happy bday ed1. top ed .

{Ed001's Note - thank you mate.}

29 Jul 2014 22:42:53
Just a little joke of course Ed, happy birthday mate!

{Ed001's Note - just don't make those kind of jokes about Star Wars films when Ed007 is about. He will end up in tears!}

29 Jul 2014 22:43:07
maybe LFC fans just love to argue as part of their nature?

Happy B'day Ed, cheers for all the hard work!

Although, I have seen the new Transformers film, and I thought it was roundly terrible. 2.5 hours of action scene with some dialogue bolted in to string the scenes together. And Mark Wahlberg looking confused and annoyed for the entirety.

That being said, there is nothing cooler in the history of everything than Optimus Prime riding a giant metal dinosaur, so swings and roundabouts really!

Many happy returns Ed01!

Being of an age growing up on the Transformer cartoons, I disliked the films, yet am compelled to watch them.

My favourite Transformer was Jazz, so I was gutted how the first film effectively reduced his rank and killed him off.

What was your favourite Transformer Eds and reds?

{Ed001's Note - my favourite was always Grimlock, he was thick but what is cooler than a dinosaur who could kick anyone's arse???}

29 Jul 2014 23:06:27
Please ed001 don't be one of those who decides that because someone says they don't like something you do, they mustn't have seen it! It's just as bad as judging something before having seen it! You're better than that man!

{Ed001's Note - if you say so.}

Very Happy Birthday Ed001. Appreciate all the work you put into the best rumours site on the net. Always look forward to your comments. Have a cracking day!

{Ed003's Note - ffs I forgot his b'day - happy birthday boss.}

Happy B-day, Ed! Like you I grew up on Transformers BUT I disagree, T4 wasn`t as good as the last trilogy. Anyway, Happy B-day!

{Ed007's Note - Never mind Ed001's birthday he's on here rabitting on about kids films and not even mentioning we have a movie chat page!!

30 Jul 2014 01:03:35
Nevertheless, happy birthday ed001

First of all happy birthday ed001(albeit a belated one:-D)
And then to all those criticizing age of extinction have you even watched it?It's on revenge of the fallen level which was just pure awesome
Transformers 4 has been the best movie throughout this year
p.s was that women sitting next to you really hot or was it a man?

Few hours late but.happy.birthday edd001'
40? If you say so ;)

Hi Ed - can't wait to see the transformers film now and happy birthday.

On a serious note do you see Brendan Rodgers as an Autobot or Decepticon? ;o)

{Ed001's Note - hmmmm good question, as he is on my team that depends on whether I see myself as an Autobot or Decepticon? I am going to go with Autobot as they win....}

Ed001 your starting to sound like comic shop guy from the simpsons, I have seen it and optimus is way more agressive he must have been watching suarez biting players, dawn of the apes I 3d was great

{Ed001's Note - I haven't seen Simpsons in years! Is the Apes better than the previous Apes film? That was woeful.}

30 Jul 2014 08:04:43
I have seen it, I am a film and media teacher, thus I get free tickets regularly. I recommend Boyhood, a masterpiece from Linklater.

{Ed001's Note - ah a film snob! I recommend you stop trying to teach and start just enjoying a bit of mindless fun sometimes. Nothing wrong with enjoying a bit of fluff in a film, action films should be about the action, not a story. A story is just there to create more action, nothing more. That is what T4 did well, lots of action, so who cares about the story? I don't watch a film to be preached to or get a message, bad enough I have to take my daughter along to watch films like 'Fault In Our Stars' or films of a similar rom-com vein because she loves them. I just want to be entertained, I don't want to think, I just want to switch off credibility and relax. That is why comic book movies are amongst my favourites.}

Ed001
Although t4 was pretty awesome (like on another level) you need to go watch the dictator
pure comic gold

{Ed001's Note - really? That the film by the guy who did Ali G? If so I didn't enjoy it.}

30 Jul 2014 10:12:05
Ed001! I can honestly say you have done your bit to improve the lives of everyone on this sight by (presumably along with Ed002) setting up this fantastic website and contributing so much, always trying to find new ways to improve it. So a big thank you from me on the behalf of everyone on here and a wish of a very happy birthday despite it being rather late in the day lol.

Seriously ed you didn't enjoy it
you must be getting real old ;-) it didn't hurt your sensitivities did it:-D
It often happens with age

29 Jul 2014 18:48:06
Quick question for eds or anyone who knows will origi be able to come back if Liverpool call him back off his loan?

{Ed030's Note - I doubt it. }

29 Jul 2014 17:55:54
Hi Ed. Have heard rumours norwegian super talent called odengaard (15years old). Liverpool scouts have checked him 3 times. Real Madrid have place bid for him around 12 mil euros. Do you know if some of suarez money could be use for him? Biggest talent in scandinavia of all time. (better than zlatan, litmanen, laudrub, larsson that age)

{Ed007's Note - Stromsgodset's Martin Odegaard has been linked with a move to Celtic to continue working with Ronny Delia who left Norway to take over in Glasgow, and now that Deila has brought in his development manager from Stromsgodset, Haakan Lunov, it looks like Celtic's chances in enticing the youngster to Glasgow have taken a turn for the better.}

29 Jul 2014 18:09:02
Just wanted to put it out there for all to debate, anyone else quietly optimistic about the new season as I am? I have my concerns abd worries which is natural human behaviour but regardless of that maybe because I'm a red I find more to be optimistic about than worry about, will we miss Suarez? Do we miss our gorgeous exes? Yes sometimes but life goes on and life can be better without the ex sweetheart/person ha, I believe that we are a proper team in that if one person cones out if the side then another can come in abd the team won't lose shape or it's way of playing, obviously the teams effectiveness may be affected but that's a whole new discussion, digressing slightly I apologise, anyway back to the original point I feel our start to the season will be key, nothing but a win on opening day will do due to our next few fixtures, man city away and spurs away are not the ideal away trips to start with, but if we can get 7 - 9 points from our first 3 games then that really will set us up for the season, anyone else excited or concerned it could go the opposite way and add pressure to us? Thoughts please guys?

The start throws up 4 fixtures in which we collected just 4 pts last season. And the chances of winning 6-0 at Spurs again are slim! I'd take two home wins and 2 draws at City and Spurs all day long.

The "do we miss out gorgeous exes" made me laugh out loud

Then I seen your picture and some wee came out

Would love to be mate but I still can not understand why with a few weeks before the season starts we have not yet secured a left back and an additional striker. For all borini offers and in my opinion this is limited, yes he scored a few goals at Sunderland but to be fair his first touch is shocking, his overall vision akin to aspas and we are challenging or meant to be for champions league football and some silver wear, borini is not what we need, we need a game changer. We will not get a luis replacement but we need a player who can score form nothing, someone with the audacity to take chances etc. this is lacking and a concern.

I have to say that this season I have absolutely no idea what to expect, I do think the start will be key, as a poor one will ramp up the pressure, I suppose anything lower than fourth would be a disappointment, but realistically you'd expect Chelsea and City to take two places, I also can see united being top after six games and their confidence will grow under a good manager, arsenal will be there or thereabouts, so all in all a very exciting season.we really need everyone to get behind the team, especially with so many newcomers, and stay behind them even if results don't go our way early on.my prediction for first six games WLDWWD

Citys squad is much more settled and potentially even more effective than last season. Our new boys will really have to hit the ground running to get a result at the etihad, but you have to keep hoping. We will gel more and get stronger as the season goes on, so hopefully we can make a decent start. Lots of new additions is always a worry in terms of team performance, but hopefully we will come roaring out of the blocks against the saints, and just keep going.

29 Jul 2014 20:37:53
I'll let you know when I get a gorgeous ex how it compares. Prepare to wait a while.

29 Jul 2014 20:49:09
Have u seen my exes?lol

Haha ha great call cookie

29 Jul 2014 17:44:26
Only ever a positive poster, so don't want to buck that trend. Very happy the direction the club is going in. Young, hungry, felxible players being brought in for BR's master plan. But 10 mil (as the numbers are being reported) for someone who has only scored a hand full of goals in 40 games, and then being loaned back?! This is the only transfer that I question. Seems frivolous.
He looked confident in the World Cup, and he scored obviously, kept Lukaku out of the team for the most part, and has played a number of positions.

But 10 mill?

Regardless, I will support anyone in a red shirt that puts 100% into there game.


BR and his scouts must have seen something in him.

Welcome to the greatest club in the world.

29 Jul 2014 18:41:56
You have to realise he was playing out wide for Lille. Hopefully he will get a central role this season for them.

Is all the money up front though? If not then it doesn't matter. We won't be buying as many players in years to come. Hopefully just a starter and a top notch kid each year. The average age of the squad is ridiculously young and about to get younger as Reina, Agger, Johnson, Lucas and Toure leave over the next 12 months or so.

The world cup will have a lot do with the inflation of the price.

I don't know what you're talking about to be honest mate. £10mil seems like a coup for me and I fully expect Origi to be worth at least double this time next year, he's a bit raw but from what I've seen of him he has all the rudiments of a truly great striker.

I personally would like to see Johnson moved on if possible but sounds like we are struggling to find any takers due to his high wages. I think fullbacks are an area we could definitely use an upgrade in but apart from that I am quite happy with the team we have got atm. Will be tough to get top 4 again but I'm hopeful of a good season + looking forward to being back in the champions league again.

Apparently we have been looking at him for a long time Davey.
If so, then it is not just a knee jerk world cup fever thing.
I would be more happy to have him this season to be honest.
I think we need either a player that provides goals and assists to go with what we have already.
Maybe Ibe is that player who knows!

I wasn't suggesting it was world cup fever and sure he could become a great signing. But if the idea was to spread the goals through out the team, strikers' values are based on their goal return, of which, his is only a few, very few assists too.
Again I won't judge the guy until I see him play more often, and as long as he is a red, I support the guy, but the stats are not doing him any favours.

29 Jul 2014 17:26:38
I for one am very pleased with the signing of Divock Origi, he was class at the world cup, reminded me a bit of a young Thierry Henry with his pace & skill, his finishing could use some work but it will come, he's only 19, he's gunna be a class addition and worth at least triple what we paid for him in the future at least imo

29 Jul 2014 16:52:11
I wonder if Sandro would become available if they complete the signing of Morgan Schneiderlin? They'd be completely stocked in central midfield.

If Lucas were to leave for Napoli then he could be a good addition. Don't really think we should make to many changes now as we already have 5 in! But just a thought, a player I like. Doubt Spurs would sell to us and if they did would except a hefty fee!

{Ed002's Note - Sandro may well be leaving.}

I was thinking this the other day, sandro would be perfect for us but I don't think levy would sell to us cheaply

29 Jul 2014 20:40:09
I may be wrong and focusing on just one particular injury, but isn't Sandro a bit of a sicknote? Quality when there but very unreliable with injuries

29 Jul 2014 16:30:10
Do any of the eds feel that there is a way back into the first team for Pepe Reine.

Any update on the RB and LB incomings.

{Ed002's Note - No, No.}

29 Jul 2014 16:12:47
I must say that even though I am less optimistic about the coming season than some of the people here (but hope I am wrong), one thing I have to give credit to BR is the amounts of optimism and good energey he produces. I think LFC suffered two big traumas recently, one is not winning the league after being so close, and second losing Suarez. While this could have been overwhelming for some managers, this didn't seem to affect BR who is full fo smiles and continues to spread very good spirits and confidence around him and this seems to affect the team which from what we here seem to be in a good mood. We will have to see how all this hold if and when results are not going our way - clearly this year we have more to lose - and the competition at the top seems like is going to be fierce . But starting the season with confidence and optimism despite Suarez going is important (for me to be as optimistic as him though I would need one more big signing, the kind of Vidal/Gaidan/Rues - but let's hope I am wrong and the youngsters will do the job)

I can't agree with any of this.

Coming 2nd was better than expected and losing suarez was expected and the price we got was better than expected. Suarez re negotiation was specific and tailored for this move. They knew it would happen even before the Jaws 3 incident.

BR would have to show optimism and energy. it happens to be a part of his job and lfc pay him very well.

We will do fine this season!

Tbh if I was getting paid millions to manage a football team I would be smiling in my sleep let alone on the training field.

I think Suarez has been good for some of the players development; Sterling has come on so much that a year ago he was a good young player to last year being an incredible player capable of being world class.

If the players can carry on and get better and with the new arrivals it could be a real interesting season; especially as a number of players can play in different formations / positions; we may have a real chance this season if we get off to a good start; IMO that will be key to where we end up at the end of the season.

Spot on. That`s the sign of great player. Suarez made his teamates better. He made Studge, Raheem, Couts and Hendo better players. He especially had a brilliant on-field relationship w/ Sterling.

29 Jul 2014 16:09:21
Hi Ed001, a question for your experience and opinion if I may regarding Borini.

Whenever I have seen him play his movement off the ball is excellent as is his workrate. What I can't quite understand though is why, when he is making brilliant runs at times, do his teammates not play him in? They always seem to choose another option and I was wondering if you knew why or had an opinion on it?

Maybe he never scores enough in training or similar? He will never get the quantity of goals unless this cvhanges.

Many thanks

{Ed001's Note - because the other choice was usually Suarez.}

Hi Ed, thanks for replying. I should have been more specific. I meant more in these pre-season games etc when Borini has played as the main striker

29 Jul 2014 14:30:31
I see Lavezzi is being linked to LFC. He is the kind of forward player BR likes. Plays exactly Suarez and Sanchez in that he could be played in a front two or wide. Presses high too! Runs in behind and towards play! He would suit LFC really well. Only issue is age but I suppose you could make an exception as there isn't another player of this style out there.

No player in the world plays like Suarez, he is truly One of a kind!

29 Jul 2014 13:33:16
Ed001, in your opinion, is Rossiter ready for a premier league game against a top side? Even if it was just an odd game here and there and not continuously given his age.

{Ed001's Note - yes, he is good enough.}

ED's :How is Rossiters physique? The lad is still very young and I'm worried about putting to much on him early.

Gerrrard struggled with injuries early on (From growth problems?) and Owen was propably also being slightly overused.

{Ed001's Note - hard to say, he seems fine physically, but the injuries come with growth spurts usually. Not sure if he will stay short, or if he is a late bloomer, in which case he will have to be used sparingly.}

29 Jul 2014 12:16:44
Hey after failing the Remy deal I think Lacazette will be a good option. He fast like Remy can score goals, he's younger and a better dribbler. He will cost more however the highlight video I've seen from him a few of his goals were because of a bad goalkeeper. What are your thoughts? :)

29 Jul 2014 13:21:45
I think Lacazette would be a good option also mate. A few reports now though are saying that Origi could be with us this season and not go back to Lille on loan. Eds has said that hs price would obviously go up but it sounds possible.

If we keep Origi at the club for next season, Lacazette is not an option worth considering for at least a year after we've seen how Lambert gets on. I think that was the plan with Origi. He get's a year of football whilst we see if Lambert can up his game and maintain his fitness. I could be wrong. Just seems as though that was the plan:

Sturridge, Remy, Lambert (Origi).

Lambert retires, Origi comes back in. Instead we will now have:

Sturridge, Origi, Lambert

Lambert retires, we move for another player (Lacazette etc.)

People here must consider that Lambert has a severe back problem that limits his playing time and he will not prolong his career and risk permanent damage.

Perhpas Borini will just stay though and spend a year competing for a wide role, and then when Lambert retires in 1-2 years, we already have the replacement. Who knows? We can only speculate.

The fact is the club accepted a bid for Borini. However we dress it up we were happy to let him go for just a small profit (if that considering wages/input ratio). If he was the answer or has a long-term future we would have issued a firm hands off surely?

29 Jul 2014 11:45:07
Apparently Reus has rejected a contract at Dortmund. i'm not holding my breath but this is just information I some of you don't know. :)

{Ed002's Note - He is simply in negotiation. Why would you post this on the Liverpool page?}

Because we have been linked with him and if he rejects his contract then there is more chance of us getting him but like I say i'm not holding my breath but its information i'm sure some other people would like to know.

{Ed001's Note - so a few links in the rags means he is about to join, even though he is still deeply involved in contract negotiations with a view to staying put?}

29 Jul 2014 12:30:38
Now you get it eds!

29 Jul 2014 12:35:11
{Ed002's Note - He is simply in negotiation. Why would you post this on the Liverpool page?}

Because there is this illusion by many (LFC fans on these pages) that Liverpool are after him .

{Ed002's Note - Gosh.}

30 Jul 2014 10:09:27
As Ed002 has said, he is purely just holding out for a better contract (wages/length) and has no intention to move clubs. Even if he did LFC would not be spending that amount of money on him regardless of the fact that he would want to come to the club in the first place. Your better just forgetting about a player of this level/status coming in as you will only be disappointed when it doesn't happen.

29 Jul 2014 11:25:09
Hi eds, question for banter page. How is it felt that those responsible for transfers have performed so far this summer? Ian Ayre got plenty of abuse in the past most likely from those who don't understand the complexities of transfers. I think so far so good. Key signings in early and more ambition shown in calibre of signing. BR is definitely beginning to put his stamp on the squad which has not been easy considering the majority of players at his disposal to date were signed by 3 prior regimes. Particularly interested in ed01's view, thanks

29 Jul 2014 13:41:04
Liverpool tried to do business early last season but failed to close many deals , the big difference from last year is being back in the champions league which makes it easier to convince players to join and allow us to spend a bit more. As for the calibre of signing ; this is open to debate that need to be had at the end of the season, for me I don't think anyone signed is better than Coutinho or Sturridge, but I am looking forward to seeing them play and be proven wrong.
The criticism Ian got last year was unjustified , people were quick to forget he brought in a couple of good young players for a decent price

29 Jul 2014 10:21:15
Hi Ed's

Yesil - Has he gone to Turkey? Do you think he will recover from his injuries, so much was thought of this guy when we bought him, how did he perform before the second injury?

If he hasn't gone, any chance we would not buy anyone and give him a chance in a few games or is that too risky?

Thanks

{Ed001's Note - I don't know to be honest mate. It is very rare a player with his injury history ever recovers though.}

It will be a great shame for the lad if those cruel injuries ruin what potentially was a great future.
I hope all goes well for him.

29 Jul 2014 09:11:43
hi all, a question, what has happened to all the so-called young talent everyone has been bleating about on here over the last 2 years, everyone on here was saying Liverpool had the best acadamy in england, stars for the future, blah, blah, everytime I pick up a newspaper another so-called young star is on his way out and lfc are now being mocked and called scousehampton, liverhampton ect ect, so what happened, was it a case of deluded fans blowing their own tuneless trumpet, just asking, that's all

Flanagan kelly sterling robinson coady rossiter peterson ibe suso carlos texiara are all players to have come/coming up the ranks within the last 2 years, be patient.

Martin Kelly, englands future RB or CB graduated and has played 30 games, it would be a lot more if not for his injuries

I believe you may have been introduced to sterling

Jon flannagan played 23 games last year.

They can mock all they want, we finished second last season and have added strength to our squad.

Sterling and Flanagan play in our first team, Kelly has had some bad injuries but is still a good player, hopefully will recover his form.

Wisdom is going on loan to WBA, is still young and will be a good RB/CB, Suso is class just has a lot of competition, as is Ibe.

We also have lots of younger talent like Wilson, Sinclair, Trickett-smith, Rossiter, Robinson, Phillips and many more who are potentially very good, some players don't reach potential some do, not every player needs to burst onto the scene at 17/18.

Which players are you on about in particular that have left, that have been hyped?

So just wondering if you missed Flanno, sterling, suso, wisdom, ibe that have all played for the first team with distinction in the last 2 years? Brad smith also came on as a sub against Chelsea & is rated highly by the club but isn't in the same league as the likes of shaw but is a potential lb of the future for us. Then there's McLaughlin who although being constantly held back by the management is a key performer at rb in our u21's an is regularly
called up by the Ireland team he represents. Add to that 16 year old harry Wilson that played in a world cup qualifier for Wales & isn't even the 2nd or 3rd biggest talent in our u18's. Then there's Rossiter, who will no doubt captain Liverpool in the same way pogba would of (if you could have hung onto him). Then there's brannigan who looks to have the qualities but may get lost in the cue. There are players like chirivella who is Spain's u18 captain I believe too. Center back Lloyd Jones could also start to challenge within 2 years. However, we do not have the best academy in the country, we have a clear pathway into our first team unlike the other big clubs in England which is making is more attractive than city, Chelsea, utd to younger players meaning that the ones not motivated my money see us a better chance to get games in our first team meaning we can buy the best talent which is what we did with most of the players I've named

Bless you. What an embarrassing post.

Do you expect all of our youngsters to just burst on the scene at one time and go straight into the starting line up?

Little by little youngsters are integrated into the team.

Raheem Sterling - came through the academy to become one of the best wide players in the league at only 19 years old.

Jon Flanagan - Came in and done an excellent job last season. So good that a lot of fans are calling for him to be first choice right back.

This year will probably see Jordan Ibe have an opportunity to come in and do well, Etc etc.

Our young players will do well, maybe if you ask this question in 5 years time, we can see if they made it or not, but the question is a little premature.

As for Southampton, we have strengthened our side with some top players that were available at a club struggling financially. It was well known that their best players were available before the transfer window opened.

Jealousy will get you nowhere mate.

Red Rum

So you have never seen the likes of Robinson, Ibe, Suso, Texeria, Rossiter, Petersen or even Sterling or Flannagan kick a football?

Ridiculous post

29 Jul 2014 11:02:57
Always funny to see someone thinking their taunting and calling people out, but actually just remind fans how many players look to be on the track to the top from our youth set-up

29 Jul 2014 11:12:41
When's the champions league draw on any way the word has it some of r youngsters will be playing in it this year as the contribution of sterling Flanagan helped in a big way for r qualification looking forward to seeing r New players signed from Southampton et al.

29 Jul 2014 11:51:08
Compare our youth set up and player potential with United's or any other top team and then come back with your assesment. Your football knowledge must be poor to have that opinion.

29 Jul 2014 11:52:13
Why are we all rising to yet another baiting post from the word?

Leave him be to be bitter about his own team rather than spending his time poking at ours.

Well said Zed.

29 Jul 2014 20:54:48
The last good thing that came out of spurs academy was Alex inglethorp. And wouldn't you know he's now with us.

29 Jul 2014 08:55:33
I had fancied Loic Remy at LFC and am really shocked he couldn't pass the Medical.

I just hope if he does play in EPL, he doesn't score more than 10 goals because that's going to hurt me.

But I am thinking on a brighter side, may be, BR is plotting for a Big signing.

29 Jul 2014 08:29:08
What and where is southamptons pre season tour? Are they off in the other side of the world or close to home? I only ask as I agree with lvg to an extent that the first game of the season you can see bad performances by top teams who have been all over the world!

Actually that poses another question what do people think of pre season tours in Asia America etc. And what do you think of these pre season tournaments?

{Ed002's Note - Southampton has not gone far at all. Liverpool went further but based themselves broadly in one place. Others have varied their plans - having such a long season over recent years and a WC this summer, Chelsea decided against a pre-season tour and gave players a longer break to get ready for the coming season, organising a few games around Europe only. Some other sides seem to have dug a hole with the travel with MU making numerous time consuming short hops and Newcastle heading for New Zealand.}

Yeah I would have said that any major tour should be confined to off summer's so every second year between euros and world cups but I suppose few club's will want to lose out on the commercial revenue and all that jazz

{Ed002's Note - Right.}

Wenger referred to Arsenal's schedule as impossible. They're driven madly by money nowadays sure, and I mean almost all clubs not just Arsenal.

The thing is every year people seem shocked when teams cause upsets in the first couple weeks. Look at Everton they went to Asia and Australia over the last couple years if I'm not mistaken and they are now considered as just slow starters. the tours obviously have a part to play

I wouldn't think the tours would effect the teams as bad as Everton have tended to start. I'd say more along the lines of ropey performances the first 3 weeks not 2 months of under performing like Everton.

If you're playing other teams who have had similar pre-season madness then it can even out anyway so you might not necessarily be losing your 1st matches you might just be rustier than you should be. That's what I'd think anyway.

To be fair to Everton, they had a new manager last year and their best striker was a loan signing, so they did very well getting where they were, partly because of Tim Howard

Everton did superb last season. The posts were about them starting slowly and Shane said he thinks it's due to pre-season tours them travelling so far.

29 Jul 2014 07:58:26
Morning all.
After trying to get tickets for a game last season which became like gold dust I am now going with my son to the Liverpool v Dortmund friendly.
Can anybody help with best places to park the car?

Hi there, glad your finally going to experience Anfield. You won't be disapointed! Try and get there nice and early, you will find numerous businesses and schools that open up there grounds for a small fee. If you leave it too late you can park on the strreet but will be some distance from the ground and you will have to pay fee for the neighbours to look after your vehicle

29 Jul 2014 10:02:01
There's a secure car park behind maccies on County road that's a fiver and normally has space. There will be loads of people walking by so just follow them up to Anfield and soak up the atmosphere

The Vernon Sangster at the back of the Anfield Road charges £6 per match I think, and it's rigt at the back of annie road. If not there then park down streets around The Anfield area, as long as its legal to park there (i.e no double yellows) then you will be sound, but you won't get a spot on any street within a 10 min walk in truth, but the walk to the ground is always good for the atmosphere anyway. I always park near St Johns Primary School, about a 10-15 min walk up to the ground. Its always safe (despite what away fans claim, just to give us a bad name!) i've parked and walked for over 15 years and never had anything happen to the car!

I live just off priory road and have a visitors parking permit if you want to use it, it will be under a 5 minute walk to the ground, you can use it free for that game

Mickey b. what a true gent! now that's what beeing a Liverpool fan is all about! RESPECT! :) YNWA*****

29 Jul 2014 17:59:00
Love that mickeyb kudos to you pal :) now that's a proper example about being part if the red family! Enjoy the game to op :)

28 Jul 2014 23:43:33
Hey eds
I was wondering if BR was looking at lacazette younger and I believe cheaper option to bony and has scored the same amount of goals

{Ed002's Note - UTSF.}

29 Jul 2014 04:47:01
I feel horrible for remy in regards to his dream move being ripped from him and wish him all the best in the rest of his career (just not when he's playing us 0:), but this really could be a blessing in disguise. I have no doubts remy would have been a valuable addition to the squad, but I believe borini needs chances. He needs to be given a run of games and not suffer anymore injury problems. Think about it: in his first season he was pushed to the wing to accommodate suarez. He always looked a little uncomfortable in this position and honestly I think he just let his nerves/pressure get to him. Not to mention suarez was our only have decent player in rodgers'first half season (anybody remember west brom 3-0? I was screaming at Shane long from my couch). Then he got injured right as rodgers was going to apparently give him a more central role (via daily mail) and when he gets back sturridge has arrived. His loan last year showed he can play given the opportunity. He's got potential to be better than remy, his attitude is close to the best I've seen, and he is a good squad player going into next season. He just needs to bulk up a bit and work on his positioning. His dribbling skills and finishing are already pretty good. Remy would have restricted the opportunities for borini(Not to mention origi is probably coming in next year). That being said he'll probably be off to a top 6 Italian side next week now that I've posted this.

Oh and one more thing, borini did not stop the club from signing remy. If we didn't let suarez hold us hostage, why would we let borini ffs.

29 Jul 2014 07:52:51
Dream move? Nope. His dream was Arsenal according to him last month.

29 Jul 2014 08:03:18
It's not holding anyone hostage to want the chance you were promised in your contract, and to show real fire and desire to play for your club

'Dream move' might be playing for a massive club with huge ambitions and in elite European competition, maybe?

Let's be fair, when we were kids we wanted to play for our dream club, being Liverpool. But not many of us became professional footballers of that standard, if any. But if we had, if we played for a team in the conference for example and got a move to say Nottingham Forest or Leeds United, again, for example, you surely probably see that as a dream move playing for such a historic club and in a much higher standard than where you were before.

Surly that would be a dream ambition, to progress on your merit and performances. So maybe that's what is meant by 'dream move/club'. I don't think it's meant as a boyhood club. But who knows?

29 Jul 2014 09:36:48
I suppose. Subjective.

29 Jul 2014 11:15:21
What's to feel sorry for? The lad will go back to QPR and play 1st team football in the premier league (If he's not injured) and be paid a lot of money per week for doing so. I've said before that I would be happy to keep Borini and give him a decent opportunity to prove himself, and people keep forgetting that we have Sterling who can play CF if required and also very good young strikers coming through who could flourish if given time in the squad.

29 Jul 2014 00:26:16
What are peoples thoughts - do you think we will get a loan or permanent signing as a CF / Striker?

28 Jul 2014 23:23:10
Suso in talks over new contract.