Liverpool Banter Archive April 02 2011
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02 Apr 2011 23:42:36
Have it on good info that Adam, Young, A.Johnson, Baines, Cahill and Dzsudzsak are close to signing. We will target Benzema aswell, though apparently he signed in Jan for 24m? My source says we will move for him in the summer, so we will have to wait and see
if all this BS is true then y am i being told that ashley young is very close to signing for MANURE! !?? ?
02 Apr 2011 23:53:18
Skrtel has had a lot of stick on here. He played excellently today, and can be world class on his day (like he was early this season). Also, he's not missed a premier league game so he's reliable too unlike Agger.
Olly
02 Apr 2011 23:24:50
In reply to:
"4. As Liverpool fans we have always been lauded as amongst the most knowledgeable in the world, do you think we have earned this reputation by blindly and unquestioningly towing the party line? No, THAT would make us united fans! We have always been able to see and admit the quality of other players and other teams while at the same time understanding our own failings and shortcomings. So please understand that my criticisms or concerns come only from my absolute desire for a return to the very top for the club we all love."
Well mate. That is a bit of a Stereotypical view, don't you think.
I, as a United fan, can admit the quality of Players on other teams.
Usually, when somebody says another teams player is awful or bad is because they are winding fans up, and - in most cases - it works, espescially on Liverpool fans.
MPez
02 Apr 2011 23:32:25
BBC 5live reports gerrard out for the rest of the season . . . The chef kd7 YNWA JFT96
02 Apr 2011 23:20:58
I will back the Ed up here; I clearly remember him/ her saying that Kenny wasn't the right man from the job.
I agree that he is the right man for morale, but we were completely dominated today and there was no doubt in my mind that even after the goal, we were still going to get done.
It was piss poor football, even worse than when we were lucky enough to beat Sunderland 2-0.
Kenny will do until the end of the season but we need a tactician aswell as a morale booster.
I felt embarassed to watch todays game. It was awful.
Good game WBA. Maybe an example of why you should give the manager your backing?
glosred
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"Kenny will do until the end of the season but we need a tactician aswell as a morale booster. "
"Good game WBA. Maybe an example of why you should give the manager your backing?"
Way to contradict yourself there nice one.
Kenny & FSG will turn liverpool around, and if you don't believe it go and support man city or something. . This season a write off anyway. sooner its over the better and LFC will start off on a clean slate.
LFCJAKE
02 Apr 2011 23:18:11
Dalglish is the man to Lead L/ pool, next year and on, its the players that he has at the moment that arent up to scratch, and no better man to know that. 2 Central defenders, a left back and left sided midfielder is where we need strenghtening. Dalglish already knows what players and what positions needs addressing, and i don't think he'll look outside of britian for these players . Backing from the owners is needed, money wise. Alot of deadwood at Anfield at the moe, and that needs to be addressed too. Football hasnt changed much to me in 10 yrs, the ball is still round the goal post are in the same position and the pitch is lined the same. YNWA
02 Apr 2011 23:11:56
WE NEED KENNY DALGLISH TO SEE THE GOLDEN SKY- - -END OF THE ARGUMENT!
02 Apr 2011 22:57:55
Two more fantastic penalties saves by Reina! When was the last time that this so-called penalty stopper actually managed to stop one? We are not going to be in Europe next season (a pity) so lets give a go to some of the lads. Another point is that we can now sign players who want to play for Liverpool next season and not glory-hunters who only want to play in the Champions League. I've said it before and I'm sure that most supporters will agree with me - I'll be glad when this season is over. Surely things will be better come August.
Mal 44
02 Apr 2011 22:55:23
Its not kenny fault we have a team full of useless player he has done better then most could wit that bunch
02 Apr 2011 22:53:38
To Ed and the person who wrote this (on Ed's questions page):
Ed, how come Andy Carroll is eligible to play for England Under 21's when he is 22? {Ed005's Note - I think there's a rule that says you can take a certain number of over21 players. I'm not sure but something along those lines.}
It's based upon their age at the start of a campaign; so if your under 21 in August 2009 then you can play in the U21's finals in 2011 - therefore someone could be nearly 23 years old and still play. It happens in all internationals U21 and below.
Hoola
02 Apr 2011 22:47:56
So Chris you come on a Liverpool site say NOTHING positive except slag of Lucas and Carroll, we don't need the idiots like Sydney having a go when we have supporters like you, or can i detect a Manc Fan? You sure sound like one!
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1. I have nothing positive to say about today's performance, do you?
2. I am not slagging off Lucas or Carroll I only have concerns over wether or not they will be players who will take us back to where we belong, but I hope I'm wrong and I truly hope they can
3. Why would you accuse me of being a manc fan just because I post something that dares to ask a question?
4. As Liverpool fans we have always been lauded as amongst the most knowledgeable in the world, do you think we have earned this reputation by blindly and unquestioningly towing the party line? No, THAT would make us united fans! We have always been able to see and admit the quality of other players and other teams while at the same time understanding our own failings and shortcomings. So please understand that my criticisms or concerns come only from my absolute desire for a return to the very top for the club we all love.
02 Apr 2011 22:14:34
02 Apr 2011 20:46:01
D'you like scary movies Sydney?
Matt S - YNWA
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Damn it!
I was gonna say that lol!
Irish Kev.
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Great minds think alike Irish Kev ;-)
Matt S - YNWA""""
and fools seldom differ. .
gan
02 Apr 2011 22:15:35
Hi eds do u think that we let the best manager we've had go last season in raffa cos I do , we should offer raffa a new long term contract because with the new owners with him he could have bought his first choice players instead of waiting to long like rick party and loosing out on players like , David villa , what u think guys kenny has steadied the ship now let raffa come back and move us foward
{Ed002's Note - I don't think Benitez coming back is the right way to go at all.}
02 Apr 2011 22:22:07
02 Apr 2011 22:04:23
Listen chris in tamworth u said hes the next heskey who's a big lump who's always on the ground . . Thats a hater to me lad . . . The chef kd7 YNWA JFT96
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I said he went down easy today considering he's a big lump and I asked the question is he the next Heskey. I'm hoping he isn't. Misquote me if you have to to fit in with your argument but it's a bit daft when everyone can see what I actually said! Take the blinkers off son and open your mind to the possibility off discussion instead of slagging off anybody who dares to question the quality of our squad which, in case you hadnt noticed, has just been outplayed by Hodgsons West Brom!
02 Apr 2011 22:32:23
DC has been scouting all over Europe, Africa and Asia looking for a CB, LB, CM, 2 LM, RM and a ST. Ever since the end of the Jan transfer window, he's been actively looking for players, trying to wrap deals up as quick as possible, ready for the new season. He's got his knife out, he knows the squad needs replenishing.
Cole, Maxi, Jova, Ngog, Poulsen, Aquilani, Pacheco, Jones, Degen, El Zhar, Soto, Insua, Aurelio are set for the chop.
We want Baines, Cahill, Johnson, Young, Dzsudzsak, Benzema and Adam as our signings this summer. I know we have contacted Baines' agent; Young and Adam are all but done; we are in talks with Dzsudzsak currently, and that Benzema, Johnson and Cahill have given positive feedback and are interested in a move here.
On a side note, we made a move for Hazard last month, but it was rejected by Lille.
Cheers,
RM
02 Apr 2011 22:34:51
After todays game does any other liverpool supporter agree that kenny isn't up to the job and that if we want to move foward we need a current successful manager and a new face mite attract new players? hiddink or boas for example wat u tink eds?
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I will back the Ed up here; I clearly remember him/ her saying that Kenny wasn't the right man from the job.
I agree that he is the right man for morale, but we were completely dominated today and there was no doubt in my mind that even after the goal, we were still going to get done.
It was piss poor football, even worse than when we were lucky enough to beat Sunderland 2-0.
Kenny will do until the end of the season but we need a tactician aswell as a morale booster.
I felt embarassed to watch todays game. It was awful.
Good game WBA. Maybe an example of why you should give the manager your backing?
glosred
02 Apr 2011 22:12:09
Let's see u slate him next season after a long pre-season, be a supporter not a hater . . . The chef kd7 YNWA JFT96
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Agree Agree Agree! !
Irish Kev.
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Here we go again! I point out some irrefutable facts about Carroll today and now I'm a hater! Come on Lads, grow a bloody brain cell! I'm simply pointing out that he looked VERY lightweight today and the reason he didn't get many free kicks in his favour today is because he was hardly fouled! He was just intimidated by some very ordinary defenders and he couldn't handle it. I want him to succeed desperately but I just have concerns!
Chris in Tamworth
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So Chris you come on a Liverpool site say NOTHING positive except slag of Lucas and Carroll, we don't need the idiots like Sydney having a go when we have supporters like you, or can i detect a Manc Fan? You sure sound like one!
02 Apr 2011 22:07:29
{Ed002's Note - I am afraid I did not see the game, but perhaps one of the readers will respond.}
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Alright cheers anyway. . but who do you think will the fullbacks while Kelly Johnson and Aurelio are out?
LFCJAKE {Ed001's Note - Carra and Wilson most likely.}
02 Apr 2011 22:03:38
24? Who ever wrote this is clueless about football, i don't recall him giving any away never mind 24. Must have been a Manc!
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You are quite right to point out that fact unfortunately you failed to point out the fact that he wasn't particularly good today either
Chris in Tamworth
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Why would I? It would have been irrelevant as it had nothing to do with the original post, which was about making a bet on Lucas giving away free kicks?
Do you just go around pointing out things that you think people should say in their own posts? Well in your posts you failed to point out The Greek was no good, the penalties was bad desitions, the. . i could go on, do you see how stupid your post was! ! ! ! !
02 Apr 2011 22:04:23
Listen chris in tamworth u said hes the next heskey who's a big lump who's always on the ground . . Thats a hater to me lad . . . The chef kd7 YNWA JFT96
02 Apr 2011 21:59:06
Hi Ed.
Just wondering what do you think of this pallson guy on loan from liverpool to hibs? playing really well but in a really poor league, do you think he will ever get a chance at liverpool?
Cheers C {Ed002's Note - I know nothing of him - maybe one of the readers could comment.}
02 Apr 2011 22:01:49
I'm not too concerned about the result today, but am I concerned about how on earth we're going to sell Jones, Konchesky, Degen, Aurelio, Cole, Jovanovic, Kyrgiakos, Maxi, N'Gog, Poulsen & El Zhar in the Summer.
I wonder if Watford would swap Loach for Jones? A decent English youngster who would be good back up while also upping the homegrown quota.
I'd give anything to get Alonso back too.
-IamTheCosmos
02 Apr 2011 21:53:58
CAN YOU TEL ME IF YOUR BANNING MY POSTS, JUST SAY. IT'S NOT A PROBLEM {Ed002's Note - No - you said you were not going to post again.}
02 Apr 2011 21:23:45
Hey ed just got a few questions to ask if you don't mind.
Firstly what did you think of todays match?
Personally i think it showed that we are crying out for some kind of playmaker in the centre of the park. I think Lucas is good at clearing up infront of the defence and playing simple passes keeping possesion and the Meireles and Gerrard are better CAM so we are lacking creativity. One positive was Suarez's obvious ability to play like an inside forward on the LW of a 4-3-3 however it could be a problem if he is to play there because i think if we are going to get the best out of Carroll we need a few people who can deliver a ball for him.
Anyway i think for the playmaker either Adam or Honda would be idel. Both attacking mentality and Adam is left footed and i think honda is aswell? Anyway it means they can both funnel left when Suarez cuts inside to deliver killerballs for Carroll to get on the end of anyway. Plus an actual winger on the right lol and we have a decent front 3 imo.
Also what do you think about the fullback problem?
Im not sure how long Johnson is out for, not sure how long Kelly has till he comes back and whats the point even talking about Aurelio he will be injured within 10 mins playing anyway. So who do you think will fill in for the next could of games? for me the obvious choices would be Carragher and Wilson. which isn't really ideal with the lack of width and attacking threat as it is. . any way that one of our loaned out fullbacks can be recalled with like a fee ontop as compensation or something? or maybe give Robinson or Flanagan a game. .
Anyway sorry for the long post. . cheers
LFCJAKE {Ed002's Note - I am afraid I did not see the game, but perhaps one of the readers will respond.}
02 Apr 2011 21:24:16
02 Apr 2011 21:02:42
Lets see how the worlds best midfielder plays against w.b.a. we are running a sweep to see how many free kicks he gives away around the box, i have a good chance of winning as i got 24
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24? Who ever wrote this is clueless about football, i don't recall him giving any away never mind 24. Must have been a Manc!
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You are quite right to point out that fact unfortunately you failed to point out the fact that he wasn't particularly good today either
Chris in Tamworth
02 Apr 2011 21:28:19
"No Sydney you can't have Kenny!
He's only back 3 months & brought us from 16th to 6th in that time so yes i believe he'll be the manager for the next 5 or more years!
We'll be much stronger come season 2012 - 13 after we go through the next 4 windows!
I never make predictions normally but i feel we will be champions by 2014 / 15 again & in a position to dominate for the next 10 years at least.
Maybe i'm wrong but at least i'll admit it unlike yourself, if / when the time comes!
Now i'm outta here!
Enjoy your night in with your tissues & laptop lol!
Irish Kev."
@What do I have to admit? United have dominated for the past ten years. Make that 20 years.
Sydney!(admit that your a manc fool)
02 Apr 2011 21:29:30
02 Apr 2011 20:14:16
Carrolls gettin a hard time isn't he , 1. He's not fully fit .2. If Hes light weight am king Kenny .3. He got knocked about 2day yes but never got a foul given 2 him .4. It was his 3rd league appearance for us , plus ye we payed over the odds 4 him but that was all down 2 judas leaving last minute so we had to throw fat Ashley a sum that wud not only make his mouth water but also leave a damp patch in hill big undies , let's see u slate him next season after a long pre-season, be a supporter not a hater . . . The chef kd7 YNWA JFT96
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Agree Agree Agree! !
Irish Kev.
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Here we go again! I point out some irrefutable facts about Carroll today and now I'm a hater! Come on Lads, grow a bloody brain cell! I'm simply pointing out that he looked VERY lightweight today and the reason he didn't get many free kicks in his favour today is because he was hardly fouled! He was just intimidated by some very ordinary defenders and he couldn't handle it. I want him to succeed desperately but I just have concerns!
Chris in Tamworth
02 Apr 2011 21:33:55
"So your saying your team was weakened because Fletcher had a cold? Jeez, I didn't think you could come up with a stupider excuse.
Stan Smith"
@No I said our team was so weakened with injury, that we had no choice but to put a player on the bench who was ill. I have no excuses, United were awful on the day, we were that bad we gifted you two of the goals.
Sydney!
02 Apr 2011 21:38:20
Sydney ur sayin fletcher was injured when he was sick but then ur braggin about puttin a player who's poorly on the bench , we played gerrard that day with a groin injury . . . By the way who will u support when utd rnt dominating the league . . . . The chef kd7 YNWA JFT96
02 Apr 2011 20:46:01
D'you like scary movies Sydney?
Matt S - YNWA
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Damn it!
I was gonna say that lol!
Irish Kev.
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Great minds think alike Irish Kev ;-)
Matt S - YNWA
02 Apr 2011 20:49:33
"No Sydney you can't have Kenny!
He's only back 3 months & brought us from 16th to 6th in that time so yes i believe he'll be the manager for the next 5 or more years!
We'll be much stronger come season 2012 - 13 after we go through the next 4 windows!
I never make predictions normally but i feel we will be champions by 2014 / 15 again & in a position to dominate for the next 10 years at least.
Maybe i'm wrong but at least i'll admit it unlike yourself, if / when the time comes!
Now i'm outta here!
Enjoy your night in with your tissues & laptop lol!
Irish Kev."
@What do I have to admit? United have dominated for the past ten years. Make that 20 years.
Sydney!
02 Apr 2011 20:50:17
"Paul Jewell has come out". . .
Lmao :P Where you there? You poor child.
02 Apr 2011 20:52:49
02 Apr 2011 20:24:24
"To Sydney : r u on this planet u tool . . Giggs was playin fletcher was on the bench so question whiskey nose about that . . . The only so called weak players u had was brown an smelling who apart from the game against us u cudnt praise him enuf so ON PAPER ur team was well stronger than rs . . UR MAN UTD U DO AS UR TOLD ha ha . . the chef kd7 YNWA JFT96"
@Correct Fletcher was on the bench, but he was carrying an injury. That's how weakened we were. So weakened we put an injured Fletcher on the bench. But I am bored about talking about your cup final against us.
Sydney!
It was illness keeping him out actually.
Stan Smith
@Exactly, the exact same virus that has kept him out til now!
Sydney!
So your saying your team was weakened because Fletcher had a cold? Jeez, I didn't think you could come up with a stupider excuse.
Stan Smith
02 Apr 2011 21:01:52
Not 1 natural wide man on the pitch today once johnson went off
02 Apr 2011 21:02:42
Lets see how the worlds best midfielder plays against w.b.a. we are running a sweep to see how many free kicks he gives away around the box, i have a good chance of winning as i got 24
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24? Who ever wrote this is clueless about football, i don't recall him giving any away never mind 24. Must have been a Manc!
02 Apr 2011 21:07:31
Buy at least 7 players:
Hennessey/ Stockdale
Cahill/ Dann
Enrique/ Baines
Gervinho/ Young
M'vila/ Adam
A.Johnson/ Dzsudzsak
Toivonen/ Wickham
My Prefrence-League Chasers
Reina
G.Johnson-Cahill-Agger-Baines
Gervinho-Gerrard-M'vila-A.Johnson
Suarez-Carroll
Hennessey, Gulasci
Carragher, Kelly, Wilson, Skrtel, Ayala
Lucas, Meireles, Amoo, Shelvey, Ince
Kuyt, Wickham, Eccleston, Pacheco
More Realistic-Top 4 Strugglers
Reina
G.Johnson-Dann-Agger-Enrique
Young-Gerrard-Adam-Dzsudzsak
Carroll-Suarez
Stockdale, Gulasci
Carragher, Kelly, Wilson, Skrtel, Ayala
Lucas, Meireles, Amoo, Shelvey, Ince
Toivonen, Kuyt, Eccleston, Pacheco
02 Apr 2011 20:17:49
Lucas and spearing spearheading our midfield no wonder we lost ill always be a pool fan but our squad is painfull and please god bring back Aqualani and sign Ardaturan, a couple of wingers and a couple of backs - major clearout needed
02 Apr 2011 20:17:53
Not a knee jerk reaction as I have stated it for the past two and a half seasons - the SQUAD is simply not good enough, and once again todays average performance (injuries and certain refereeing decisions didn't help) highlighted our shortcomings and deficiencies.
Nothing we can do about it until the summer, surely Fenway will see this and will hopefully buy the 5 or 6 class players we need.
I like Agger, he definitely is of the required standard, however the lad is simply too injury proned (Aurelio like), so a leftback is crucial.
A centre back is also required, long term replacement for Carragher, but also a first teamer instead of Skrtel or Kyrgiakos. Wilson is young and isn't a left back granted, but I have yet to see anything from the lad in a Liverpool shirt to suggest he can claim a first team place. Cahill has been rumoured, he may be suitable?
The Midfield is my greatest concern - without Gerrard there is nothing! Kuyt is not a midfielder, and if better players come in then he will simply become a squad player; Lucas is lightweight - he has improved but we will never win anything with him as a first teamer, he is "squad" level at best. Spearing likewise, he battles away but he simply isn't good enough, in a one off game perhaps, but as a first team regular - no!
Carroll was told to "beef up", and I think he has but I think its to the detriment of any pace he may have had. Understandably he is still coming back to fitness, however today he looked more ponderous then I have ever seen the lad.
Suarez is class, but if you don't or can't supply him then you may as well have Pepe up front.
Joe Cole coming on for the final five minutes . .Kenny what was the point?
02 Apr 2011 20:20:15
Anybody else think that those two penalties were given a bit easily? By the way i thought the ref was awful! Anybody agree with those 2 points?
02 Apr 2011 20:24:24
"To Sydney : r u on this planet u tool . . Giggs was playin fletcher was on the bench so question whiskey nose about that . . . The only so called weak players u had was brown an smelling who apart from the game against us u cudnt praise him enuf so ON PAPER ur team was well stronger than rs . . UR MAN UTD U DO AS UR TOLD ha ha . . the chef kd7 YNWA JFT96"
@Correct Fletcher was on the bench, but he was carrying an injury. That's how weakened we were. So weakened we put an injured Fletcher on the bench. But I am bored about talking about your cup final against us.
Sydney!
It was illness keeping him out actually.
Stan Smith
@Exactly, the exact same virus that has kept him out til now!
Sydney!
02 Apr 2011 20:24:36
Lets put it this way. . if man u fans werent worried about next season they wouldn't be on this page. Fear is driving their lame attempts to rile you lot and you're all falling for it. When a person is consumed by fear the norm is to retreat or attack and lash out. Just start ignoring them like you would an annoying child and they will go away. Responding inflates their ego and plays into their need to keep reminding everyone of their position and sadly how little class they really have. Not that every pool fan shows the class the club deserves but most of us have better things to do,
Yeah we lost to Roy. so what. I don't want europa next year and we're not getting 4th so its time for Kenny to do what he can and firm up his plans, view the players, see what does and doesn't work and think about next year. Its almost like a long pre season. It would be worse if Kenny came in during the summer. Being in the hotseat gives him a head start for next year. We're safe this season. we werent with Roy. I'm sure he's found out who needs to go, who stays and that we need a number of new players to correct our lack of depth. It was always going to be a banana skin with Roy at West Brom. Our full team for 90mins would have obliterated them. just like we did to man u. Our first team is as good as anyone, Dont forget that boys and girls. kenny's hands are tied as he has a great 1st 11 and a crap squad in prem terms.
02 Apr 2011 20:26:06
So Hodgson wins out, KK embarrassed. Was the right choice made or should Hodgson have had more time?
02 Apr 2011 20:27:08
@I said he was slow to react and his touch was laughable! And I stand by what I said! Luckily for us he came out in the second half playing much better. Speaking of old slappers, do you think Kenny will be Liverpool manager next season?
Sydney!
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No Sydney you can't have Kenny!
He's only back 3 months & brought us from 16th to 6th in that time so yes i believe he'll be the manager for the next 5 or more years!
We'll be much stronger come season 2012 - 13 after we go through the next 4 windows!
I never make predictions normally but i feel we will be champions by 2014 / 15 again & in a position to dominate for the next 10 years at least.
Maybe i'm wrong but at least i'll admit it unlike yourself, if / when the time comes!
Now i'm outta here!
Enjoy your night in with your tissues & laptop lol!
Irish Kev.
02 Apr 2011 20:33:29
To Sydney : so u say it was ur reserves who played us in the 3-1 win at anfield ( Rooney , giggs , scholes , evra , nani , van der sar , chicarito ) get a grip lad an take the defeat sorry mauling like a MANC . . . . The chef kd7 YNWA JFT96"
No Ferdinand
No Vidic
No Fletcher
No Anderson
No Giggs
No Valencia
No Nani (2nd half)
No Park
Sydney !
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Ok Sydney! You didn't have them players , that's not our fault! We could say the same about today's game! NO Gerrard , Kelly , Aurelio , Shelvey , Agger or Johnson! So cop on mate !
02 Apr 2011 20:14:16
Carrolls gettin a hard time isn't he , 1. He's not fully fit .2. If Hes light weight am king Kenny .3. He got knocked about 2day yes but never got a foul given 2 him .4. It was his 3rd league appearance for us , plus ye we payed over the odds 4 him but that was all down 2 judas leaving last minute so we had to throw fat Ashley a sum that wud not only make his mouth water but also leave a damp patch in hill big undies , let's see u slate him next season after a long pre-season, be a supporter not a hater . . . The chef kd7 YNWA JFT96
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Agree Agree Agree! !
Irish Kev.
02 Apr 2011 20:09:30
02 Apr 2011 19:55:43
"To Sydney : r u on this planet u tool . . Giggs was playin fletcher was on the bench so question whiskey nose about that . . . The only so called weak players u had was brown an smelling who apart from the game against us u cudnt praise him enuf so ON PAPER ur team was well stronger than rs . . UR MAN UTD U DO AS UR TOLD ha ha . . the chef kd7 YNWA JFT96"
@Correct Fletcher was on the bench, but he was carrying an injury. That's how weakened we were. So weakened we put an injured Fletcher on the bench. But I am bored about talking about your cup final against us.
Sydney!
It was illness keeping him out actually.
Stan Smith
02 Apr 2011 20:09:40
So now Rooney is passionate Sydney eh?
Didn't you say on yer own page he was slow & useless at half time in yer game earlier?
Now to be fair i didn't read it too carefully as i was in a hurry but feel free to correct me.
So is he passionate but slow & useless?
Sounds like his old flame "Auld Slapper" to me lol!
Irish Kev.
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Also didn't you predict a 2 - 1 win before yer game today but then changed it to 4 - 2 in the 2nd half?
Funny that or sad - can't make up my mind! Ha! !
You're laughable Sydney!
Totally lost my respect now so can't be bothered with responding to yer sad act, adolescent spews anymore - i actually have a life & have to go out with the wife & mates to the pub now in a minute!
Sydney, i hope you have great, lubricated fun with yer packet of tissues & your laptop tonight!
Just remember to clear your history after or Mummsy will be very upset lol!
You could always give yer mates "The Moon" / "Red Knight" a call & ye can have a Manure 3 way love - in lol! !
Enjoy! ! Ha ha!
Cheers,
Irish Kev.
02 Apr 2011 20:10:38
D'you like scary movies Sydney?
Matt S - YNWA
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Damn it!
I was gonna say that lol!
Irish Kev.
02 Apr 2011 20:11:05
Lads, hate to tell you's but:
Manchester United fans are coming on this site and tearing you's apart - just like WBA tore you apart today!
We're Man United we do what we want!
You're Liverpool, in the Europa League!
Oh Sorry! Not even in that no more!
MPez
02 Apr 2011 20:12:29
I thought Carroll did ok today he just needs time to settle in.
I think a lot of him going down today was to try and prove a point to the ref , who had a very poor game today.
Take nothing away from wba tho they out played us and shown what you can do with wingers.
The trouble with us is we have no creative players in the middle of the field , so all we got was a boot upfield all the time to Carroll ( which I don't know what he's meant to do with ).
I'm not a fan of Lucas but he did ok today teaming up with the defenders to double team odemwingie.(spell)
We need players who can take men on and set up attacks because it shown today we have nothing linking up defence with attack.
Also speed because we must have the slowest team in the league.
LAVERS
02 Apr 2011 20:12:38
Disgraceful. . We need to offload all players who just aren't good enough. .
That would be:
Kyrgiakos
Maxi
Jova
Jones
Poulsen
. . and some others
And buy a left back, a good CB, a DM, at least 2 wingers and a Striker.
YNWA
02 Apr 2011 20:13:04
To Sydney : so u say it was ur reserves who played us in the 3-1 win at anfield ( Rooney , giggs , scholes , evra , nani , van der sar , chicarito ) get a grip lad an take the defeat sorry mauling like a MANC . . . . The chef kd7 YNWA JFT96"
No Ferdinand
No Vidic
No Fletcher
No Anderson
No Giggs
No Valencia
No Nani (2nd half)
No Park
Sydney!
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Vidic would have got sent off if he had played, giggs played, nano probably would have set us up some more goals if he stayed on and it was 2-0.
And since when has Anderson and park been starting 11 players.
Cant take a loss. Scummy Utd Fan!
02 Apr 2011 20:05:22
D'you like scary movies Sydney?
Matt S - YNWA
02 Apr 2011 19:55:43
"To Sydney : r u on this planet u tool . . Giggs was playin fletcher was on the bench so question whiskey nose about that . . . The only so called weak players u had was brown an smelling who apart from the game against us u cudnt praise him enuf so ON PAPER ur team was well stronger than rs . . UR MAN UTD U DO AS UR TOLD ha ha . . the chef kd7 YNWA JFT96"
@Correct Fletcher was on the bench, but he was carrying an injury. That's how weakened we were. So weakened we put an injured Fletcher on the bench. But I am bored about talking about your cup final against us.
Sydney!
02 Apr 2011 19:56:10
@Ed, he is referring to 'PASSION' something Liverpool left behind back in the 80s!
Sydney!
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Ya so much passion in fact - he tried to leave ye in November lol & your great fans put up banners for Rooney around Mould Trafford mocking him about the hookers he has been with allegedly for the next home game.
Ye lot are true class!
You deserve each other i tell ya!
$cummmmm through & through!
It's funny - i have Manure fan friends but at least they have the class to admit that they hate Rooney behind closed doors but would never put up banners like that you lot did!
Defend that Sydney boy! !
Irish Kev.
@If it wasn't for a spot of vandalism on Mr & Mrs Gerrard's house then Gerrard would be playing in a blue strip now, in fact he would have been playing for a blue team since 2005, lets not forget that in a hurry shall we my friend?
Sydney!
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Funny that but that wasn't done to him at Anfield by "supporters" was it?
Did he get verbal abuse at the time?
Unlike yer lot we keep it behind closed doors - literally lol!
Who said it was LFC supporters that did any criminal damage to Gerrard's house?
Have you proof you need to bring to the local police?
You're a right little Ms. Marple aren't you Sydney lol!
Still you haven't defended what yer "fans" did!
Wonder why?!
Irish Kev.
02 Apr 2011 19:59:46
"To Sydney : so u say it was ur reserves who played us in the 3-1 win at anfield ( Rooney , giggs , scholes , evra , nani , van der sar , chicarito ) get a grip lad an take the defeat sorry mauling like a MANC . . . . The chef kd7 YNWA JFT96"
No Ferdinand
No Vidic
No Fletcher
No Anderson
No Giggs
No Valencia
No Nani (2nd half)
No Park
Sydney!
. . . . . . . .
Vidic would have got sent off if he had played, giggs played, nano probably would have set us up some more goals if he stayed on and it was 2-0.
And since when has Anderson and park been starting 11 players.
LAVERS
02 Apr 2011 20:01:58
We were caught in defence half the game and when we did get an opportunity to break forward, our players were too busy sprinting forward to receive any passes. Its quite depressing when you see West Brom move the ball brilliantly while we struggle to dispatch a 15/ 20 yard pass without giving it away.
A major clear-out is necessary with Kryigakos, Poulsen, Aurelio, Konchesky, Jovanovic being top priorities to get rid off, whatever the cost!
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I totally agree with the players you say aren't good enough but your rant about today's game in relation to the players listed is totally out of context as kyriakos was the only one of those listed that played, he did cost us the game though.
02 Apr 2011 19:42:34
Carrolls gettin a hard time isn't he , 1. He's not fully fit .2. If Hes light weight am king Kenny .3. He got knocked about 2day yes but never got a foul given 2 him .4. It was his 3rd league appearance for us , plus ye we payed over the odds 4 him but that was all down 2 judas leaving last minute so we had to throw fat Ashley a sum that wud not only make his mouth water but also leave a damp patch in hill big undies , let's see u slate him next season after a long pre-season, be a supporter not a hater . . . The chef kd7 YNWA JFT96
02 Apr 2011 19:42:44
Thats the Liverpool I know! We're back! Here's 20 thoughts and ramblings from a man on the edge - something for ye all to read. We won't agree on everything, but I hope some of you enjoy it and some of you hate it and post your thoughts on some of the points made. I call it - 'What I learned from our trip to West Brom (but already knew)'.
p.s - Its a bit long eds, I'll put it on banter & rumours to get some replies if that's okay - I like reading long posts by people, so I hope you enjoy it too!
(1) Reina is quality - but is getting pissed off (he looked it anyway!) at losing to poor teams (clumsy on the penalty).
(2) When Agger is injured we cannot play the ball oit of defence.
(3) Our other centre-back's (Carra, Soto, Skrtel) are all horrible on the ball - Without Agger they just lump it forward, or pass sideways or backward. We must try Wilson there - after all, Soto won't be here next season, we have to play the kid, he looks for the pass on the ground - although at full back, he had no options - Dirk dropping deep! Spearing? I'd rather lump it, we might have a chance at retaining possession! We miss a Gerrard/ Meireles in this scenario - sad when Meireles was available but shunted wide.
(4) Carra is a poor RB - Wilson is not a LB.
(5) The failure to address any of the above issues in Jan hast cost us dearly - Did KK expect us to be fine with one very injury-prone LB and 2 RB's for the rest of the season? Were Insua, Konchesky, Darby and Degen that much worse than what we have today? Awful planning! A 17-year old playing Football Manager would plan better than this, I'm sure you would agree.
(5) Lucas wins the ball and passes it - Useful player (apart from his miscued clearance) when he has good players and movement around him (which he did not today). Alongside another defensive-minded player though, and we lack any forward impetus, which brings me to. . .
(6) Spearing - looked totally out of his depth, for a player whos best attributes are hard-work and ball winning, he couln't get near the WB midfield, even with Lucas giving him free reign.
(7) Kuyt was not up front, the only place he's any use - and then only in tandem with a pacy stiker - that's it - sell him please - if this Kuyt as a midfielder bull goes on much longer we're doomed. A horrific player in any midfield role.
(8) Meireles cannot defend whatsoever - and is wasted on the right. If Gerrard upon his return refuses to play a defensive role, these two in central mid in a 4-4-2 is a complete no-go.
(9) Suarez is fantastic - thank God he plays for us.
(10) Andy Carroll is Andy Carroll - perhaps the most stupid signing in the history of football at £35m? Time will tell. It could prove one of the most expensive flops ever (reminds me of Lentini - i hope I'm wrong). I still refuse to accept that he was/ is a good signing - there is little substance to such suggestions. . however I'm aware that
(11) Andy needs wingers to supply him - Until this happens he will struggle. Again, the failure of KK to address this problem in Jan is inexcusable - Kenny has been watching us for years, even without Carroll (I know Carroll was signed on deadline day, but we needed wingers before Carroll arrived) this need has been evident, I don't know a fan that thinks we didn't/ don't need wingers, and his failure to act has cost us dearly - yet more poor planning. Today we looked like a team that wanted the season to end.
(12) Signing Carroll suggests 4-4-2 must be the way forward - With Gerrard and Meireles in the team this cannot happen however. In order to play Lucas & Meireles in the centre (which has worked well this season), Gerrard must play on the RW till the end of the season . We know Stevie can play on the RW, and he must, at least till the end of the season, as Kuyt and Meireles are lost on the flanks.
(13) If he (SG) outright refuses to play there (RW), or for that matter - if he refuses to operate in a more defensive role as need be, in order to accomodate Meireles when needed (be that till the end of the season or next year) - then tell him to pack his bags, he plays for LFC - he doesn't decide what position he plays. I have heard rumours about this sort of thing, IF its true, then its shameful behaviour.
(14) We have no-one who can play on the LW (Jovanovic has been terrible there when given the chance, to his credit he's done well upfront) - another godawful failure which belongs to both Roy and KK. Again, Kenny must have known this for years - we have! Again, terrible planning costing us points.
(15) We were unlucky to lose Johnson & Agger so early in the game - this exposed how threadbare our squad is.
(16) We must try Johnson on the RW - I'm not gonna expain why, because its so obvious why we should. Both GJ & SG are better options than Dirk or Meireles, yet GJ is needed at Full Back due to the lack of planning, at least that much is understandable - the lack of said planning, however, is not.
(17) If Carroll and Suarez are fit, Kuyt should be on the bench, not in midfield - is he undroppable? - if so, alarm bells should be ringing. Never won anything with him in midfield, never will. (I wait to be proved wrong on this one, i'd love to be, sadly I fear I never will).
(18) All is not lost - Reina (GK) Kelly (RB) Carra (CD) Skrtel [who has improved in recent weeks, I don't blame him for today] (CD) Agger (CD) Wilson (CD) Lucas (DCM) Gerrard (CM) Meireles (CM) Johnson (RW) Suarez (CF) Carroll (CF) & Kuyt (CF) are all good players if played in their proper positions. This core can be built upon - the lack of planning thus far by KK means they seldom play in their best positions, as outlined above - sometimes with disasterous results both in terms of personnel (eg. Dirk in midfield) and games (eg. defeats at W.Brom, W.Ham).
(19) We should give our youngsters a chance - especially on the flanks and at full back. Suso, Ince, Sterling, Flanaghan etc. We discussed this during the week, JJ put up a good post on the young talent. Could they do worse than Kuyt in midfield? Looks like the 4th place & maybe 5th are gone, give them a try till the end of the year. . . look at Kelly, fantastic, however. .
(20) Dare I say it? More results/ performances like this and KK could be gone by the end of the season? Of course he could - its football. A bad run-in and it could all change. This should/ could/ will also make Kenny wary of risking blooding more youngsters before the end of the year - his future may depend on these next games, he'll be thinking short-term, not long-term.
What do you think folks? Any thoughts? I'm still excited about the future, it'll be interesting - in the words of Gary Gillespie - after West Ham away, he was asked by his co-commentator, "well Gary, what did you make of that". . . after a pause for a few seconds to reflect on our dismal display, and try to find positives, Gary replied - "we'll just have to take this one on the chin". Manly words! I think they apply today. For various reasons we just weren't good enough.
BJH - YNWA
02 Apr 2011 19:44:47
02 Apr 2011 19:18:36
Tell a lie, Giggs did play!
Sydney!
Fletcher on the bench too wasnt he?
Fergie just got it wrong
02 Apr 2011 19:45:31
No Ferdinand
No Vidic
No Fletcher
No Anderson
No Giggs
No Valencia
No Nani (2nd half)
No Park
Sydney!
But I recall u calling Liverpool a mediocre team managed by a has been and that u didn't know u had so many super players who apparently were going to run riot now if that was the case surely u don't need the players above or are u saying need to field ur full first team to be able to cope with a mid table mediocre team?
P.s the result that day if anyone missed it was . . . . wait 4 it
Liverpool 3 manc went missing for 4 days 0.lmfao
02 Apr 2011 19:47:09
"So now Rooney is passionate Sydney eh?
Didn't you say on yer own page he was slow & useless at half time in yer game earlier?
Now to be fair i didn't read it too carefully as i was in a hurry but feel free to correct me.
So is he passionate but slow & useless?
Sounds like his old flame "Auld Slapper" to me lol!
Irish Kev."
@I said he was slow to react and his touch was laughable! And I stand by what I said! Luckily for us he came out in the second half playing much better. Speaking of old slappers, do you think Kenny will be Liverpool manager next season?
Sydney!
02 Apr 2011 19:29:16
To Sydney : r u on this planet u tool . . Giggs was playin fletcher was on the bench so question whiskey nose about that . . . The only so called weak players u had was brown an smelling who apart from the game against us u cudnt praise him enuf so ON PAPER ur team was well stronger than rs . . UR MAN UTD U DO AS UR TOLD ha ha . . the chef kd7 YNWA JFT96
02 Apr 2011 19:30:36
@Ed, he is referring to 'PASSION' something Liverpool left behind back in the 80s!
Sydney!
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Ya so much passion in fact - he tried to leave ye in November lol & your great fans put up banners for Rooney around Mould Trafford mocking him about the hookers he has been with allegedly for the next home game.
Ye lot are true class!
You deserve each other i tell ya!
$cummmmm through & through!
It's funny - i have Manure fan friends but at least they have the class to admit that they hate Rooney behind closed doors but would never put up banners like that you lot did!
Defend that Sydney boy! !
Irish Kev.
@If it wasn't for a spot of vandalism on Mr & Mrs Gerrard's house then Gerrard would be playing in a blue strip now, in fact he would have been playing for a blue team since 2005, lets not forget that in a hurry shall we my friend?
Sydney!
02 Apr 2011 19:30:37
So now Rooney is passionate Sydney eh?
Didn't you say on yer own page he was slow & useless at half time in yer game earlier?
Now to be fair i didn't read it too carefully as i was in a hurry but feel free to correct me.
So is he passionate but slow & useless?
Sounds like his old flame "Auld Slapper" to me lol!
Irish Kev.
02 Apr 2011 19:34:06
Hey Sydney, why don't you go and spill your bile on your own page? you sad cockneymanc.Your sad manager even said Liverpool where the better team when we beat you at anfield. I bet you don't come on here this time next season. when your sad team struggle to finish in the top 4.I think your side might spend 10 million in the summer if you sell Rooney and nani, the rest of the money will go to buy your club for the glazers, ha ha ha. Remember to always look on the bright side of life and he who laughs last laughs longest. Ha Ha Ha!
02 Apr 2011 19:35:14
Great Header, Hyypia-esk type goal :)
Look Woy, Liverpool winning away from home ha
corkpoolred
HA HA SILLY SILLY BOY
02 Apr 2011 19:37:28
Our very own India has stopped 28 long years of not winning the World cup today and what about our very own dearest Club. INDIAN RED
02 Apr 2011 19:27:07
I never rated Carroll before we signed him and we obviously payed about 20 million too much for him but I was prepared to eat my words as I thought KK could see something I couldn't. Unfortunately I think my concerns may have been well founded. I am well aware that he isn't at full fitness yet but honestly today Scharner, Meite and Olson bullied him so easily and had him falling about complaining to the ref and even holding his head when hardly touched. Is he gonna be the next Heskey? Cos to be honest he's a bit lightweight for a big lump. I hope he's not only a hard man with women!
02 Apr 2011 19:24:38
@Ed, he is referring to 'PASSION' something Liverpool left behind back in the 80s!
Sydney!
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Ya so much passion in fact - he tried to leave ye in November lol & your great fans put up banners for Rooney around Mould Trafford mocking him about the hookers he has been with allegedly for the next home game.
Ye lot are true class!
You deserve each other i tell ya!
$cummmmm through & through!
It's funny - i have Manure fan friends but at least they have the class to admit that they hate Rooney behind closed doors but would never put up banners like that you lot did!
Defend that Sydney boy! !
Irish Kev.
02 Apr 2011 19:15:40
{Ed002's Note - As a matter of interest, what are "threatening shapes"?}
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It's an Irish thing probably if you don't get it.
What it means is feigning to lunge at the camera / person much like a drunken coward would outside a nightclub to a bouncer to try to intimidate the bouncer or to try to make the bouncer hit him so the drunk can claim he was assaulted.
I was a bouncer for nearly 10 years so i had my fair share of "shape throwers" / cowards trying to look hard in front of their mates until they're caught in a headlock - they tend to beg for mercy then!
See Ed002, you learn something new on here everyday lol!
"Corkpoolred" may have heard of it too as i believe it's a Cork City saying originally?!
Cheers,
Irish Kev.
02 Apr 2011 19:16:32
"To Sydney : so u say it was ur reserves who played us in the 3-1 win at anfield ( Rooney , giggs , scholes , evra , nani , van der sar , chicarito ) get a grip lad an take the defeat sorry mauling like a MANC . . . . The chef kd7 YNWA JFT96"
No Ferdinand
No Vidic
No Fletcher
No Anderson
No Giggs
No Valencia
No Nani (2nd half)
No Park
Sydney!
02 Apr 2011 19:18:36
Tell a lie, Giggs did play!
Sydney!
02 Apr 2011 19:10:49
What a cracking manager Roy Hodgson is, Kenny could learn a thing or two from him!
Sydney!
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I always knew you were a closet LFC supporter Sydney!
You must have enjoyed our 3 - 1 win at Anfield last month so eh lol?!
Irish Kev.
@Thoroughly mate, I love watching our reserves get a run out! Did you enjoy the 3.2 & 1.0 results? Or how about when our U18's took your U18's out of the youth cup? What's that 3.1?
Sydney!
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You're only as good as your last game against us buddy & we destroyed ya!
Get used to it from now on kid.
Our under 16's hammered yer lot 4 - 1 the other day too - did ya forget that?
4 - 1 sounds like a familiar score eh?!
Irish Kev.
@It does sound familiar, wasn't that the season we won title number 18?
Sydney!
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Thats the one Sydney!
Glad it had that sort of effect on ya that you can remember the exact season - you remember the date too i bet!
Well get used to those sort of results against us lad!
Yer time has come now!
Ye either buy big in the summer or ye slip away!
Would you like a prawn sandwich?
How is Cold / Mould Trafford these days?
I tell ya one thing - you lot will soon be looking up the table at us.
Once we get past the next 2 transfer windows we'll be a much stronger side than yer shower.
Yer spam & you know ye are!
Look at Rooney today when he scored the pen swearing & cursing & throwing threatening shapes at the camera - oh how proud you should be Sydney!
He's a great ambassador for yer club lol!
Irish Kev. {Ed002's Note - As a matter of interest, what are "threatening shapes"?}
@Ed, he is referring to 'PASSION' something Liverpool left behind back in the 80s!
Sydney!
02 Apr 2011 19:04:58
To Sydney : so u say it was ur reserves who played us in the 3-1 win at anfield ( Rooney , giggs , scholes , evra , nani , van der sar , chicarito ) get a grip lad an take the defeat sorry mauling like a MANC . . . . The chef kd7 YNWA JFT96
02 Apr 2011 18:43:08
I'm on 2017, just won the league in a canter, 101 points and 101 goals. Team is:
Reina
Serge Aurier
Tobias
Cho Young(young guy, created by fm)
Bale
Rodwell
Canales
Pastore
Hazard
Abei Hernandez
Sanchez
Corkpoolred
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You should have seen my squad from 2014 - 17.
It was mental.
Canales couldn't even get into my reserve squad lol!
I always play 3 - 1 - 3 - 3 formation & it always seems to do the job.
Reina,
Pique, Chellini, Wilson,
Fabregas,
Hazard, Messi, Ronaldo,
Aguero, Songo & Llorente.
The subs bench had the likes of Suarez & Dzeko, Pastore & Sanchez etc.
Cheers,
Irish Kev.
02 Apr 2011 18:53:41
What a cracking manager Roy Hodgson is, Kenny could learn a thing or two from him!
Sydney!
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I always knew you were a closet LFC supporter Sydney!
You must have enjoyed our 3 - 1 win at Anfield last month so eh lol?!
Irish Kev.
@Thoroughly mate, I love watching our reserves get a run out! Did you enjoy the 3.2 & 1.0 results? Or how about when our U18's took your U18's out of the youth cup? What's that 3.1?
Sydney!
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You're only as good as your last game against us buddy & we destroyed ya!
Get used to it from now on kid.
Our under 16's hammered yer lot 4 - 1 the other day too - did ya forget that?
4 - 1 sounds like a familiar score eh?!
Irish Kev.
@It does sound familiar, wasn't that the season we won title number 18?
Sydney!
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Thats the one Sydney!
Glad it had that sort of effect on ya that you can remember the exact season - you remember the date too i bet!
Well get used to those sort of results against us lad!
Yer time has come now!
Ye either buy big in the summer or ye slip away!
Would you like a prawn sandwich?
How is Cold / Mould Trafford these days?
I tell ya one thing - you lot will soon be looking up the table at us.
Once we get past the next 2 transfer windows we'll be a much stronger side than yer shower.
Yer spam & you know ye are!
Look at Rooney today when he scored the pen swearing & cursing & throwing threatening shapes at the camera - oh how proud you should be Sydney!
He's a great ambassador for yer club lol!
Irish Kev. {Ed002's Note - As a matter of interest, what are "threatening shapes"?}
02 Apr 2011 18:57:57
So many idiots slating the king after today's result , we lost Johnson an agger in the first 30mins , Atkinson never give us a thing and yes we played below par but wot u expect when everytime r forwards got the ball in a good position Atkinson blew his whistle plus Suarez was threw on goal an got called offside despite the defender playing him 2 yards onside . What I will say is with the ball Carra is awful , first 4 touches he plays that useless long ball an lost possession evry time he hit that long ball he loves so much , Hes been a gud servant but it's time he stopped talkin about another 2 years playin in the first team . . . The chef kd7 YNWA JFT96
02 Apr 2011 18:59:18
Just watching Arsenal. Wilshire is incredible. I've never seen a youth or reserve game so I don't anything about the young players, but do we have anyone of his standard coming through or will we have to go out and buy one? Aquilani travelled across the ground like Wilshire at times. He could save us a few quid if he felt he wanted to give The Premier League another shot. We desperately need a player like him in our midfield.
-IamTheCosmos
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He is a great player alright!
He'd grace the Barca team the way he plays at times.
Just wish he was Irish lol!
Irish Kev.
02 Apr 2011 18:38:58
Team for the rest of the season:
Johnson- Kelly- Agger- Wilson- Aurelio
Gerrard/ Pacheco-Lucas/ Spearing-Meireles/ Suso/ Sterling
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we may as well play the young 'uns seeing as we're not gonna get europe now.
02 Apr 2011 18:36:18
02 Apr 2011 17:05:44
Ed, if Birmingham got to the fa cup final, would we still qualify for Europe through 6th?
{Ed002's Note - Yes, as they won the Carling Cup. However, it is entirely irrelevant as Birmingham got knocked out of the FA Cup in the Quarter Finals by Bolton. Sixth place does not qualify for the Europa Cup this season.}
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02 Apr 2011 18:36:33
Jus lOoking at the table intresting fact. We have now the same amount of games as bottom team wigan! Aurelio srtkel soto cole maxi spearing aqua elzar ngog poulsen we desparetly need new players
02 Apr 2011 18:34:03
What a cracking manager Roy Hodgson is, Kenny could learn a thing or two from him!
Sydney!
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I always knew you were a closet LFC supporter Sydney!
You must have enjoyed our 3 - 1 win at Anfield last month so eh lol?!
Irish Kev.
@Thoroughly mate, I love watching our reserves get a run out! Did you enjoy the 3.2 & 1.0 results? Or how about when our U18's took your U18's out of the youth cup? What's that 3.1?
Sydney!
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You're only as good as your last game against us buddy & we destroyed ya!
Get used to it from now on kid.
Our under 16's hammered yer lot 4 - 1 the other day too - did ya forget that?
4 - 1 sounds like a familiar score eh?!
Irish Kev.
@It does sound familiar, wasn't that the season we won title number 18?
Sydney!
02 Apr 2011 18:32:51
Just watching Arsenal. Wilshire is incredible. I've never seen a youth or reserve game so I don't anything about the young players, but do we have anyone of his standard coming through or will we have to go out and buy one? Aquilani travelled across the ground like Wilshire at times. He could save us a few quid if he felt he wanted to give The Premier League another shot. We desperately need a player like him in our midfield.
-IamTheCosmos
02 Apr 2011 18:28:05
What a cracking manager Roy Hodgson is, Kenny could learn a thing or two from him!
Sydney!
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I always knew you were a closet LFC supporter Sydney!
You must have enjoyed our 3 - 1 win at Anfield last month so eh lol?!
Irish Kev.
@Thoroughly mate, I love watching our reserves get a run out! Did you enjoy the 3.2 & 1.0 results? Or how about when our U18's took your U18's out of the youth cup? What's that 3.1?
Sydney!
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You're only as good as your last game against us buddy & we destroyed ya!
Get used to it from now on kid.
Our under 16's hammered yer lot 4 - 1 the other day too - did ya forget that?
4 - 1 sounds like a familiar score eh?!
Irish Kev.
02 Apr 2011 18:23:43
2022. wow that's long i can never stick to one. i get bored to easily.
im on 2014.
i always start new ones know. i don't know why. lol.
im starting one now.
Atkinson was just awful know, his persistent blowing the whistle whenever Carrol ever got within 1 yard of the ball or player, was some how an immediate foul.
Credit has to go to Carrol know. i can't emphasize enough how hard it must of been for him to not get sent off. any one else would off. rooney etc.
harry5:)YNWA
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Personally i find it a challenge to keep playing beyond when the current players have retired so you have to go find & scout your own new players.
My team was ridiculously good a couple of seasons back but the wages were crazy.
Was spending £8 - 9m a week on wages alone as the squad was bloody huge.
Couldn't stop buying players - got a bit addicted i think lol!
Agree with ya on the Carroll thing!
I really like the look of the lad & hope the fans give him time!
He has huge potential!
We just don't have the players around him currently to supply him - good wingers i mean with good final balls.
Cheers,
Irish Kev.
02 Apr 2011 18:20:40
What a cracking manager Roy Hodgson is, Kenny could learn a thing or two from him!
Sydney!
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I always knew you were a closet LFC supporter Sydney!
You must have enjoyed our 3 - 1 win at Anfield last month so eh lol?!
Irish Kev.
@Thoroughly mate, I love watching our reserves get a run out! Did you enjoy the 3.2 & 1.0 results? Or how about when our U18's took your U18's out of the youth cup? What's that 3.1?
Sydney!
02 Apr 2011 18:18:16
Kyriakos NEEDS to go now, hes useless cost us our europa lge campaign with dodgy defending, and now 3 points fgs, surely kenny must realise hes crap, don't u agree ED's? {Ed001's Note - I think everyone now realises he is useless, even those who were giving me abuse for saying so at the start of the season!}
02 Apr 2011 18:14:18
Redsox69, most of the players you mention don't play for us, there are there somewhere but not playing, what about today's team most of them are cr*ap , lucas, spearing, kuyt, skyrtel imo need to leave the building.
02 Apr 2011 18:16:37
"What a cracking manager Roy Hodgson is, Kenny could learn a thing or two from him!
Sydney!"
Yea - You've got it half right, Sydney - Roy is a crack!
SingRed
02 Apr 2011 18:10:31
I hear Comolli is desperate to find Liverpool a decent manager!
Sydney!
02 Apr 2011 18:12:47
02 Apr 2011 17:44:28
02 Apr 2011 17:15:58
Ed,
i think i now understand how Alex Ferguson was feeling about Atkinson (referee) he was the ref who he talk about for his touchline ban.
the ref is a joke, an absolute joke
im now going back on football manager 11. where we are top of the league . lol.
Harry5:)YNWA
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I'm with ya lad!
That Atkinson is on FM 11 too though i think.
I do think the first pen was a pen though to be fair!
He scissored him down.
What season you in Harry on FM 11?
I'm in 2022 i think?!
Irish Kev.
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2022. wow that's long i can never stick to one. i get bored to easily.
im on 2014.
i always start new ones know. i don't know why. lol.
im starting one now.
Atkinson was just awful know, his persistent blowing the whistle whenever Carrol ever got within 1 yard of the ball or player, was some how an immediate foul.
Credit has to go to Carrol know. i can't emphasize enough how hard it must of been for him to not get sent off. any one else would off. rooney etc.
harry5:)YNWA
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I'm on 2017, just won the league in a canter, 101 points and 101 goals. Team is:
Reina
Serge Aurier
Tobias
Cho Young(young guy, created by fm)
Bale
Rodwell
Canales
Pastore
Hazard
Abei Hernandez
Sanchez
Corkpoolred
02 Apr 2011 18:12:47
What a cracking manager Roy Hodgson is, Kenny could learn a thing or two from him!
Sydney!
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I always knew you were a closet LFC supporter Sydney!
You must have enjoyed our 3 - 1 win at Anfield last month so eh lol?!
Irish Kev.
02 Apr 2011 17:58:59
Let's not go-blaming the referee for the pens today. The first was blatant and both showed the big Greek rangers reject for what he is. Against a team like west broom with the heart of their midfield missing, we should b tearing them apart.
I know are defence is not at full strength but if we Hav ambition to get into the top four again (which shows how poor we are, the last time kk was in charge, top four would have been abject failure) we need to hAve a squad with enough depth to dispense of west brom withou much trouble.
I don't think Europe is any where near realistic this year. Fourth maybe nxt year buy the title needs to be a longer term goal.
Kk needs to b given a three year contract and the financial backing he wants. The squad needs an overhaul and I think it needs to start this summer with a manager who knows he will be given two-three years to implement their strategy. There is no short term fix.
Rant over
02 Apr 2011 18:00:09
If we sell the second rate players in our squad & get say £30m for them, then use £30m or so of our own money we could potentially buy 4 good players in the summer. Avoid free transfers at all costs - they have never paid off for any team i can think of.
Outs:
Jova - 5m
Soto - Free
Cole - 6m
Poulsen - 2m
Jones - 2m
Maxi - 3m
N'gog - 4m
Darby - 1m
Kuyt - 7m
Ins:
Wingers x 2, Central Defender & Creative Attacker / Forward is what we probably need.
Why can't we fill the remaining positions within the squad with the likes of Coady, Wisdom etc.
They can play a few mins here & there & still play for the reserves to keep them match fit every second game or so.
If Reina goes i wouldn't be too bothered personally.
He is a good Keeper no doubt but there are other Keepers out there who'd cost less & do as good a job as him. That'd unlock some extra funds for other areas of the pitch to get a 5th good player.
He'd cost any possible suitors about £25m due to the length of his contract.
We could easily get a good replacement keeper for £12 -15m which would be the 6th signing.
I'll probably get shot down for this but i really don't care as its my opinion only :)
Cheers,
Irish Kev.
02 Apr 2011 18:04:50
"What a cracking manager Roy Hodgson is, Kenny could learn a thing or two from him!
Sydney!"
What a cracking clown Bozo the Clown is, Sydney the Clown could learn a thing or two from him.
Sodney!
02 Apr 2011 18:06:00
As the dust from today's abysmal performance begins to settle, It is clear what positions we need to strengthen and what players need to be shown the exit door come summer.
What I cannot breakdown and digest is how a team like Liverpool are facing a season with players who are 'some of the best' on paper yet play as poorly as they have today. It was an abysmal showing put up by our boys this afternoon and I was let down once again this season against an opposition we really should trample over.
Now there were decisions in that game that are very open to debate but I would have bothered arguing these if we lost but had put up a really strong fight and were clear winners, however, this was not the case bar the last few minutes of the game.
We were caught in defence half the game and when we did get an opportunity to break forward, our players were too busy sprinting forward to receive any passes. Its quite depressing when you see West Brom move the ball brilliantly while we struggle to dispatch a 15/ 20 yard pass without giving it away.
A major clear-out is necessary with Kryigakos, Poulsen, Aurelio, Konchesky, Jovanovic being top priorities to get rid off, whatever the cost!
The rest like Maxi Rodriguez and Joe Cole can still be left to decide upon, i.e squad players or shipped out?
We desperately need to get 4 positions sorted out next transfer window. LB, DM, LM and RM.
If top talent is brought in for these 4 positions only then we can end up top 4 EASILY.
I might post another one later on this evening.
I wish upon every red a revolutionary summer and a challenging season next year.
RedSox69
02 Apr 2011 17:56:51
Mpez, two things to correcr you on that's if have read them right? first off ADAM, adam won't be going to spurs its either liverpool or united! spurs have some deal in place to take parker to the lane with keane going to the boleyn reasons, spurs are looking for someone to drive forward with the ball! they have an adam type player in the better tom huddlestone, as for BENZEMA, benzema going to united? now if i get this wrong i stsnd corrected! when van der vaart joined spurs the deal was held up! remember? this was due to them trying to push through the benzema deal through (which if bale goes to madrid in the summer he may well be part of the deal again?), now im not sure how close or how distant liverpool were in getting benzema in jan? but as for him only going to utd are well wide of the mark! he wanted the spurs move and who's to say he didn't want the liverpool one? But as i said if i have miss read your post then sorry!
02 Apr 2011 17:51:02
We need a massive amout of money to turn are team around £60m imo, lucas new contract god help us has he ever had a assist.
02 Apr 2011 17:51:35
As many as 13 players in this team have to be offloaded, and no less than 8 brought in summer. Don't give me the "we shouldn't bring that too many players" crap.
Jones, Darby, Kygriakos, Skrtel, Konchesky, Aurelio, Maxi, Poulsen, Cole, Pacheco, Jovanovic, Ngog, Spearing are all so shocking it's an embarassment that they're LFC players.
8 players have to come in: a centre back, leftback, 3 wingers, a defensive and an attacking midfielder and a forward.
These could realistically be: Cahill, Baines, Dzsudzsak, Young, Payet, M'Vila, Turan and Hulk/ Llorente.
And perhaps a couple of youth.
We then promote Flanagan and maybe 1 other youth.
Kuyt, Carragher, Gerrard, Johnson and Lucas should be squad players. Only Pepe Agger, Raul, Suarez, Carroll and Kelly are good enough to be considered for a starting spot.
As much as Lucas has improved, M'Vila is far better than him defensively, and he is miles behind Raul offensively. Nothing personal against the kid. He just falls between two stools.
So he'd be best-served by a place on the bench.
Impostor
02 Apr 2011 17:52:10
I hope LFC fans can now see wot a huge job KK has to overhaul that midfield for nxt season. .
I personally believe we do not have ONE midfielder I would definatley keep at the club.
Gerrard. .would keep him and see if he can reproduce his form of a few seasons ago with better players around him, legend but hasn't played well for 2 years.
Lucas. . I'm sorry but if people would rather have him than a scott parker or yann m'villa they must be mad. ( brakes up the odd attack, works hard but that's it ) Squad player at best his sell on value says it all. .
Miereles. I agree with a previous poster, I only really know he's on the pitch when he pops up and scores the odd goal. .I'd give him a bit more time but would definatley want more from him. .
Maxi. . not good enough at all. .could see him doing well at everton.
Poulsen?? ?
Shelvey. . shows a little promise should go out on loan. .
Spearing. .Never good enough or would have shown it by now. .distinctly average.
Cole. .never done it for us had injury's and his confidence has gone. .not sure if he will get that back with us?
Anyone want to have a debate about any of the above? I'M here till 7pm. .
Dave
02 Apr 2011 17:46:53
As for carroll, I gave my view before he signed - it has not changed.}
what was that i missed it thanks
02 Apr 2011 17:45:24
Ed, do you think we would move for Wickham as Harry has publicly declared that he is not interested in paying anything like 10m for him?. Thanks {Ed002's Note - I think Newcastle have an interest as well. He may do a job, but it will be a lot of money for an untested player. Possibly worth the risk.}
10m for him and 35 m for Carroll, ed, which 1 do you think as a better move for Liverpool? I feel we wasted a lot on Carroll. 35m can definitely bring in a better striker than him. YNWA {Ed001's Note - Carroll had scored goals in the top flight though, Wickham has yet to even play in it.}
02 Apr 2011 17:45:27
Agger averages 18 games a season over his entire pro career
02 Apr 2011 17:44:28
02 Apr 2011 17:15:58
Ed,
i think i now understand how Alex Ferguson was feeling about Atkinson (referee) he was the ref who he talk about for his touchline ban.
the ref is a joke, an absolute joke
im now going back on football manager 11. where we are top of the league . lol.
Harry5:)YNWA
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I'm with ya lad!
That Atkinson is on FM 11 too though i think.
I do think the first pen was a pen though to be fair!
He scissored him down.
What season you in Harry on FM 11?
I'm in 2022 i think?!
Irish Kev.
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2022. wow that's long i can never stick to one. i get bored to easily.
im on 2014.
i always start new ones know. i don't know why. lol.
im starting one now.
Atkinson was just awful know, his persistent blowing the whistle whenever Carrol ever got within 1 yard of the ball or player, was some how an immediate foul.
Credit has to go to Carrol know. i can't emphasize enough how hard it must of been for him to not get sent off. any one else would off. rooney etc.
harry5:)YNWA
02 Apr 2011 17:37:13
When was the last penalty that Reina saved?
Can't remember myself!
Was it last season?
02 Apr 2011 17:38:07
02 Apr 2011 13:35:27
Is it true that erik lamela has been at melwood sometime this week? I have no opinion on this player i have never seen him play, i have been told that he could be the argentinian version of our very own gerrard! Anybodies views or info is greatly appreciated.
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16 Jan 2011 13:22:28
Jim22 {ed's note - not that I know of, I can't say I have ever heard his name mentioned by anyone, let alone in connection with Liverpool sorry mate. What's he like?}
See below: VERY highly rated in Argentina: Quote:
Erik Lamela - Meet the 18-year-old prodigy touted as the new Lionel Messi
The young Argentine midfielder has been the subject of a 12m offer from AC Milan while Bayern Munich are also keen on landing him.
Erik Lamela has been considered a huge promise since Barcelona expressed interest in him when he was only 12 years of age.
Incredibly, he opted to reject a move to the Spanish giants two years ago in favour of prolonging his stay in Argentina with club River Plate.
Growing up as one of the biggest talents in the world for his age group, Lamela is today only 18 but has already shown enough promise for River Plate to reject a 12m AC Milan bid for him recently.
It seems that Lamela's club are reluctant to part with him for less than 18m, and for a change, that could prove a very realistic fee.
It is hard to believe he has only started his way in the Argentine top flight, racking up three assists and two goals in 13 appearances in his first year for River. He had played twice before in previous seasons but only as a late substitute.
In one of the most important matches of the season, against fierce rivals Boca Juniors, Lamela stood out with a bravura performance in the heart of River's midfield to overshadow opposition star Juan Roman Riquelme.
Lamela, who sports the number 18 shirt, can play in centre of the park as a playmaker or an attacking midfielder, and can also be employed as a winger on both flanks.
Boasting wonderful technique, close ball control and two powerful feet, Lamela is an exceptionally creative talent who possesses the potential to unlock top class opposition defences in similar fashion to Barcelona comptatriot Lionel Messi.
He has the ability to dribble past his man, but passing remains his forte as the accuracy and power he can provide with his left foot is tremendous.
He offers composure in front of goal when stood with a chance and appears much calmer and experienced than the average player of his age.
He is also adept at taking set-pieces and is in charge of free kicks and corner kicks for his side, which is highly indicative of his technical ability.
Lamela's current shortcomings are few and far between, but he could improve his aerial ability as he is the right height to be a threat in the air if he works on this aspect of his game.
And perhaps the current missing ingredient for Lamela to become a top calibre player is speed. Quite simply, he could improve his pace and acceleration to pose a more serious threat on the counter-attack.
The sky is the limit for this immensely talented 18-year-old trickster and time will tell if he is indeed the next big thing on the world stage.
Jim22
02 Apr 2011 17:38:38
Ed, do you believe Dalglish would be getting the contract or board are looking for some one else, for the manager's position? thanks
{Ed002's Note - Comolli is tasked with finding a new manager. I expect that the position will be there for dalglish if he wants it. I would guess that he may have some concerns over the role of Comolli and that these would need to be discussed.}
02 Apr 2011 17:41:24
Kyrgiakos is s**t and d ref was bias. . . we nid cahil nd mexes @d back.
Mereiles havnt bin performin since he won d player of d mont, we 2 centre back cos carragher and kyrgiakos are s**t.
I can't bliv dat we lost dis match it's really sad.
02 Apr 2011 17:30:01
What a load of carp, nothing to lose now, lets play the young guns give them a few games, why leave cole on the bench till 90th min, if half the players are only interested in hoofing they would be better changing to rugby union, dont blame the ref, its not his fault we can't put 3 passes together.
02 Apr 2011 17:30:24
2 clear penalties mate, the Ed's (ED001) favourite 'Kyrgiakos' did the business for West Brom .
We should've done better up front and I am biting my tongue really hard not to say anything about our 35m signing.
Meireles should be played in the middle, why spearing, the boy is not useless, but playing him and pushing Raul wide takes away Raul effectiveness.
Roy
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Just on the Carroll situation - please give the lad a chance!
Everybody & their granny knows we overpaid for him but Chelsea gave us crazy money for Torres & inflated everything.
You can't blame Carroll for today!
The ref treated him like dirt!
Not one player played well today today!
If we can get one more win in the next 2 - 3 games to ensure survival, then i think it's time for Kenny to blood some kids.
Suso, Coady, Sterling & Wisdom should get 25 - 30 mins each in the last 4 or 5 games.
We have nothing to lose by trying it.
Irish Kev.
Europe is beyond us now
02 Apr 2011 17:33:16
What a cracking manager Roy Hodgson is, Kenny could learn a thing or two from him!
Sydney!
02 Apr 2011 17:33:42
Ed, do you think we would move for Wickham as Harry has publicly declared that he is not interested in paying anything like 10m for him?. Thanks {Ed002's Note - I think Newcastle have an interest as well. He may do a job, but it will be a lot of money for an untested player. Possibly worth the risk.}
02 Apr 2011 17:27:53
Yet another Rafa reject ruins our chances of progressing, we need a mass clear out and start again. No more second rate strikers, wingers, midfield, defenders!
02 Apr 2011 17:22:56
Kyrgiakos straight swap for Cole. . . . . .hopefully we'll get at least half a bag!
YNWA
p.s. i can see ppl throwing rumours about but look at it this was it can't get worse than kyrgiakos! the futures bright the future is scouse!
pps well done ed's, great job
02 Apr 2011 17:23:32
Ed, how many signings do you think LFC need personally, and how many do you think we'll get? {Ed002's Note - I expect to see a few signings. Perhaps four of five.}
Is that it? ?? ? We need at least 6
02 Apr 2011 17:21:28
Ed if Birmingham somehow get relegated will 6th place therefore be a European place.
Red G from SA
YNWA
{Ed002's Note - No. If they cannot gain a UEFA licence (through not applying in time (as Empoli) or for financial reasons (as Portsmouth)) then they will be excluded. Sixth place will not be getting a Europa place next season.}
02 Apr 2011 17:21:34
Its time for the "Special" One to return from Madrid or Paul Daniels cos it's going to take some kind of magic to get us back in the top 4
02 Apr 2011 17:19:49
Still looking for forward to :
Andy Carroll scoring for LFC before ,
Fernando Torres scores for Chelsea .
1977
02 Apr 2011 17:19:52
Ed, how many signings do you think LFC need personally, and how many do you think we'll get? {Ed002's Note - I expect to see a few signings. Perhaps four of five.}
02 Apr 2011 17:15:48
Cole to come off the bench to get the winner
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he may have done if kk hadnt left it till 90mins to bring him on?
02 Apr 2011 17:15:58
Ed,
i think i now understand how Alex Ferguson was feeling about Atkinson (referee) he was the ref who he talk about for his touchline ban.
the ref is a joke, an absolute joke
im now going back on football manager 11. where we are top of the league . lol.
Harry5:)YNWA
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I'm with ya lad!
That Atkinson is on FM 11 too though i think.
I do think the first pen was a pen though to be fair!
He scissored him down.
What season you in Harry on FM 11?
I'm in 2022 i think?!
Irish Kev.
02 Apr 2011 17:17:14
Abysmal performance two definate pens no doubt ref was very poor though. Our midfield is shocking no pace anywhere on the pitch we are one dimensional the greek is shambolic at best why play mereiles out wide baffling stuff.But we have to realise that we just don't have good enough players in a lot of positions. We need two CB CM two wingers and a full back if we are to compete next season.
DCG
02 Apr 2011 17:17:56
Once again a couple of injuries show just how thin our squad is. Anyone else think if we can get Agger halfway fit it may be worth cashing in on him?
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This is something we need to seriously consider i feel!
Can't carry on with him getting injured every other match.
Turning into "sick note".
02 Apr 2011 17:19:05
The greek, well what can i say, pants, end of. Thanks ROY!.
Defo bought by rafa
02 Apr 2011 17:19:11
Well can't quite believe the result! Don't know what's more shocking? Us losing or RH motivating a team! !
Lee73
02 Apr 2011 17:10:54
Hey listen, how come you're blaming Dalglish? One single player cost us the game but I agree we were average. And I think we should sell Agger rather than Skrtel. Not because he scored but he plays regularly where Agger gets injured every week. The last seven games are just an experiment, don't take them too seriously fellow fans. Kenny and we will find out who needs to go, who needs to stay, and who needs to be bought.
02 Apr 2011 17:00:04
Once again a couple of injuries show just how thin our squad is. Anyone else think if we can get Agger halfway fit it may be worth cashing in on him?
02 Apr 2011 17:03:29
Awful . . as bad as and very similar to West Ham performance . . most players underperforming. No idea going forward until 2-1 down due to some horrendous defending. There is no quick fix and it will require a lot of new signings ( good news for the content of this sight) . . be lucky to hold on to 6th
02 Apr 2011 17:04:48
How s**t did we play, if we are trying to get pepe to leave then were playing the right way.our only saving grace is spuds drew aswell so were still in with a shout of 5th but we need to play better and soto has to be retired now no where near good enough rather play ayala, wilson, wisdom
we really do need a lot of stregthening in summer
INS
RB-COVER
LB-1ST TEAM AND COVER
CB-WE NEED ATLEAST 2
DM-1ST TEAM
MC-1ST TEAM
RW-1ST TEAM
LW-1ST TEAM
AMRLC-COVER
ST-COVER
OUTS
SOTO
SKRTEL
AGGER(always injured)
AURELLIO
POULSON
JOVANOVIC
COLE
KONK
NGOG
02 Apr 2011 17:05:42
Severely dissapointed that Liverpool didn't take their chance to gain ground on Tottenham today, we would have been just 2 points behind, oh well, keep goin lads, were all behind the team to keep pushing to the last game.
Anfield Andy
02 Apr 2011 17:05:44
Ed, if Birmingham got to the fa cup final, would we still qualify for Europe through 6th?
{Ed002's Note - Yes, as they won the Carling Cup. However, it is entirely irrelevant as Birmingham got knocked out of the FA Cup in the Quarter Finals by Bolton. Sixth place does not qualify for the Europa Cup this season.}
02 Apr 2011 17:06:12
Jeez I know people say we don't need an overhaul, but we desperately do. Our squad is so bad, its unreal.
We need a CB, LB, DM, CM, RM, LM, LM and ST.
Soto, Konchesky, Poulsen, Aquilani, Cole, Jovanovic, Maxi, Ngog, Jones, Pacheco, Degen, El Zhar out need to go.
02 Apr 2011 17:06:17
I think it's safe to confirm that we definitely need some new CB's in the summer in addition to left back. Agger, although i think he's one of our best defenders is always getting injured. I think he's played a maximum of 2/ 3 games between injuries this season. The greek, well what can i say, pants, end of. Thanks ROY!. The only good thing about today is that neither spuds or chavski took 3 points and only increase their gap to us by a point. We were unlucky with the injuries so early in the game on top of the "Key" players we already had out. Several players are NOT good enough for the first team and we can all argue about who they are. One thing that i'm sure we'll all agree on however, is the fact that we really need heavy investment in the summer to turn us into a force to be feared again.
The Crow {Ed002's Note - Chelsea are 10 points ahead of Liverpool with a game in hand - it seems most unlikely that they will be overtaken.}
02 Apr 2011 17:06:24
Atkinson was absolutely horrid today
02 Apr 2011 17:06:25
I am so frustrated like every other Liverpool fan to understand how and why we play well one week and play s**t the week after, we have really messed up today especially as spurs have only drawn. The season is now finished for us 6th is the best we can hope for.
A massive clearout is required and a huge spend is what's needed for us ever to get back into a Champion league position.
Anyone who says different is dilusional, our strength in depth is the worst i have ever seen 30 years.
Gone2curl1
02 Apr 2011 17:07:22
2 Really bad penalty decisions by the ref! How can he give a penalty for that !
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Are you joking kid?
The first penalty was a stone wall pen!
Seriously! !
02 Apr 2011 17:07:38
To be fair, Kuyt had 2 games before this, and Suarez just recovered from injury. Skrtel was solid IMO, positioning much improved but wasn't helped by Kygriakos with his dodgy defending. Certainly didn't think the 2nd was a penalty though. Spearing only knew how to hoof.But let's just be fair to those that didn't play well and hammer them if necessary. We missed Agger, Gerrard and Kelly massively. Hope they get well soon
Keith YNWA
02 Apr 2011 17:00:00
That was nothing short of a pathetic performance!
Pathetic!
Where was the passion & creativity?
Or at least an attempt at creativity?!
This season cannot end soon enough!
Torture! ! !
Yet another loss to a woeful side.
We'll probably beat Man City & Arsenal now then lose to the next relegation threatened team we face!
Woeful & NOT GOOD ENOUGH! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
Irish Kev.
02 Apr 2011 17:00:06
Thoughts on todays performance? ?
I think it was absolutely rubbish. We deserved the loss. What hurts the most has happened, again today. We lose to a side that is not good enough and even bad is that they deserved the win. Any thoughts, ed on todays' performance and our tableposition by end of the season?
02 Apr 2011 17:00:16
Ed,
i think i now understand how Alex Ferguson was feeling about Atkinson (referee) he was the ref who he talk about for his touchline ban.
the ref is a joke, an absolute joke
im now going back on football manager 11. where we are top of the league . lol.
Harry5:)YNWA
02 Apr 2011 17:00:20
Gauranga we are poor! !
02 Apr 2011 17:02:42
2 Really bad penalty decisions by the ref! How can he give a penalty for that !
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2 clear penalties mate, the Ed's (ED001) favourite 'Kyrgiakos' did the business for West Brom .
We should've done better up front and I am biting my tongue really hard not to say anything about our 35m signing.
Meireles should be played in the middle, why spearing, the boy is not useless, but playing him and pushing Raul wide takes away Raul effectiveness.
Roy
02 Apr 2011 17:03:09
Tides have turned I hate losing but I have an irrational hatred of the Albion and I can't understand why we do this, no matter who the manager is, we manage to wreck a decent run god help us when we play city or arsenal if we play like that
Pepe has maybe shown today that although he is a great keeper he deserves better than what we did and that he needs to go to become great
Also, not joking, how much did we pay for Carroll cause we got ripped off he probes isn't match fit, but he has played enough and offered nothing
I will prob get killed for saying it now after a loss, but I have been thinking of it for a long time
Ref didn't help either and kyrigiakos was s**te as usual I don't believe that he still plays football yet alone for Liverpool
Sorry for the rant, but I needed to moan
02 Apr 2011 16:52:27
Lets face it when Trevor Frances says it's not a penalty then it not a penalty
02 Apr 2011 16:52:55
Ed we were proper s**te and both skrtel and soto should never play again for us this year and we have to play city next we play like this we will get battered
02 Apr 2011 16:54:20
Well. .we can all see. how 1 guy. . the greek has cost us the game
all managers know he is crap. so they make the players go for him knowing he will make a stupid tackle. and that's what happens.
I BLAME DALGLISH. .WHY? cos there are better defenders such as wilson, or the guy at derby who are not as clumsy
02 Apr 2011 16:54:33
Irrelavent. Roy will always be a poor manager. Glad he gone. We still have average players, who hopefully will be gone come the summer.
Muzmacol ynwa
02 Apr 2011 16:54:55
Typical. The ref set the tone when he allowed Carroll to get bullied and beaten, then doing his best to enrage Carroll to get him sent off. That took the edge out of our bright start, and surprise surprise, he gives two penalties for a fair challenge then a dive.
02 Apr 2011 16:55:22
Also seeing as Yann M'Vila has said that he is happy at Rennes and would only leave for a Top Drawer club.
Just you wait till the Summer, when Charlie Adam signs for Spurs. .
Trust me, it's done. It was going to happen on Deadline Day - the reason why Blackpool and Tottenham, respectively, were both in until the gong. But the Paper work was in about 5 minutes too late, so the deal is on for the Summer.
Every 'Man and his Dog' (used alot by your own Blair Mayne YNWA) knows that if Benzema leaves Real Madrid for England it will be to Manchester United. When he left Lyon it was between Real and United (everybody knows this). So Benzema will turn to his other option now (if he leaves).
Trust me. These are 4 players (Romelu Lakaku included) that Liverpool FC will Not be signing. You may come back and try to say I 'know nothing' when I assure you that I do, and this is the Truth.
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I'm not an idiot, MPez, I don't believe Lukaku and Benzema will join come dawn of June 1st. I wouldn't even want Lukaku!
What I do believe and am confident of is Liverpool's signing of Charlie Adam which is almost certain to happen and the bare fact that Liverpool have a far better chance of signing M'Vila than Man U. Of course, the press will come out with the usual bull about how Fergie has followed M'Vila since he was a solitary sperm when Liverpool have been looking at him since August and the rest of the teams followed suit in November.
He says he wants to go to a top-drawer club - that only means that Liverpool are running.
I read your LFC 'Transfer Summary' when you talked out of your apse nearly as much as you are now. You know nothing mate, if your transfer predictions are right I'll build a golden statue of Red Nose outside my house, wear a Man U shirt for a year straight and sing your clubs legendary 4-word anthem 'Glory, Glory' at the top of my lungs at Anfield in the Kop (ie, I'll sentence myself to death).
Martin
02 Apr 2011 16:55:34
I see Roy has added a new tactic to his game plan since he got the boot;
" Now listen lads, any contact I want you to go down no matter how slight."
FHS now he will be gloating all week about how he beat us, when in reality we were playing against Martin Atkinson. WBA Just happened to be kicking the ball around the pitch at the time.
02 Apr 2011 16:56:15
WOW, Liverpool were absolutely awful today. Our midfiled offers nothing going forward, and it's not even as if they're solid defensively. We so badly need two wingers and a creative midfielder. The amount of times we just booted it forward to Carroll was shocking. He needs service from the wings into dangerous areas if we're going to see the best of him. Why o why did we give Lucas a contract extension? he is average at best, I've no idea how he gets in the Brazil team, baffling! Very very poor today.
02 Apr 2011 16:56:20
Do not come and blame everone- - It's KYRGIAKOS only. And God why did Rafa bought this kinda players and ledt our team full of sh**tes?
02 Apr 2011 16:56:40
I hope that Greek can make a gyro, otherwise he is utterly useless!
02 Apr 2011 16:57:11
Where are all the posts saying how good Lucas is?
Quite simple, we absolutely and undoubtedly require players for the following positions
CB
LB
CM
LW
RW
CF
+ squad players
02 Apr 2011 16:57:14
Why do people attack Lucas constantly when we have that Greek in the squad? He is absolutely usless, lost us 3 points and any chance of Europe, that's a very expensive player!
MR EM
02 Apr 2011 16:57:22
So so so lame!
Sydney!
02 Apr 2011 16:57:34
That has to be the worst performance ive seen seriously how hard is it to pass the ball? meireles, lucas, spearing, kuyt is a terrible midfield dalglish has to shoulder some of the blame for that woefull performance there is zero ZERO football getting played what's going on with the long ball looking for carroll CARP.
02 Apr 2011 16:57:52
OFFS. What a load of cr*p. RH sure must be glad he moved on. Bet he will enjoy his glass of wine tonight !
02 Apr 2011 16:58:15
Skrtel has to score that. free header. easier than the one he did score. joke.
02 Apr 2011 16:58:41
It is clear to see we need a new CB, Skrtel and Greek are useless, and agger is injured a lot. Who's the top targets ed? Stevie D
{Ed002's Note - I get slated every time I mention a centre back. Like it or not, Mexes has been looked at. Personally, either of the Birmingham first choice centre backs of Dann or Johnson would be a very good addition to the squad.}
02 Apr 2011 16:50:15
Frustrating performance, FRUSTRATING.
RedSox69
02 Apr 2011 16:50:41
STOP PLAYING KYRGIAKOS! ! !
02 Apr 2011 16:48:48
Kyriagkos is absolutely dire.
Isaac
02 Apr 2011 16:49:43
That was never a penalty FFS!. Greek boys gone in the summer as he's SH*T.
02 Apr 2011 16:49:43
2 Really bad penalty decisions by the ref! How can he give a penalty for that !
02 Apr 2011 16:32:28
Also seeing as Yann M'Vila has said that he is happy at Rennes and would only leave for a Top Drawer club.
Just you wait till the Summer, when Charlie Adam signs for Spurs. .
Trust me, it's done. It was going to happen on Deadline Day - the reason why Blackpool and Tottenham, respectively, were both in until the gong. But the Paper work was in about 5 minutes too late, so the deal is on for the Summer.
Every 'Man and his Dog' (used alot by your own Blair Mayne YNWA) knows that if Benzema leaves Real Madrid for England it will be to Manchester United. When he left Lyon it was between Real and United (everybody knows this). So Benzema will turn to his other option now (if he leaves).
Trust me. These are 4 players (Romelu Lakaku included) that Liverpool FC will Not be signing. You may come back and try to say I 'know nothing' when I assure you that I do, and this is the Truth.
MPez
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No point arguing we will see in a few months
LAVERS
02 Apr 2011 16:36:51
Any site that asks for your mobile number is not to be recommended.
Try vipstand.me or myp2p.eu
02 Apr 2011 16:37:55
Cole to come off the bench to get the winner
02 Apr 2011 16:40:24
Please can we have the dirk kuyt that plays so well for holland
02 Apr 2011 16:41:59
I was snooping on utds transfer page and I THINK mpez was saying that benzema will go to utd so why is he coming on our site AND writing rumours about benzema
p.s i did not write on their site
RED SKETTLE YNWA
02 Apr 2011 16:42:32
Great to see Martin the manc haven another great game he really is the worst ref in the perm by the way how lethargic do we look.
02 Apr 2011 16:42:56
"Vipstand.net
go to link2 vshare, that's the best
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any site that asks for your mobile number is not to be recommended."
It doesn't - it tells you not to enter it if asked, just to wait and the match will start anyway.
02 Apr 2011 16:43:10
Ed Suarez has been quite quiet today . Do you think he will play like this from now on or do you think he is just wary of his groin injury? Cheers !
{Ed002's Note - You can't expect spectacular performances all of the time - particularly when returning from an injury.}
02 Apr 2011 16:25:59
Ahhhh kyriagacos the old Greek cart horse comes up with his fortnightly gift of a penalty to the opposition
02 Apr 2011 16:24:49
I could of sworn the greek got a foot to that ball then. We are playing pretty hoo though
02 Apr 2011 16:23:37
Another stupid fowl by a stupid player, Skrtel just about to clear and he commits that foul, TERRIBLE!
Only way he can make up for this, is with the winner
corkpoolred
02 Apr 2011 16:14:25
Martin'
Ahh Martin. Silly boy.
Also seeing as Yann M'Vila has said that he is happy at Rennes and would only leave for a Top Drawer club.
Just you wait till the Summer, when Charlie Adam signs for Spurs. .
Trust me, it's done. It was going to happen on Deadline Day - the reason why Blackpool and Tottenham, respectively, were both in until the gong. But the Paper work was in about 5 minutes too late, so the deal is on for the Summer.
Every 'Man and his Dog' (used alot by your own Blair Mayne YNWA) knows that if Benzema leaves Real Madrid for England it will be to Manchester United. When he left Lyon it was between Real and United (everybody knows this). So Benzema will turn to his other option now (if he leaves).
Trust me. These are 4 players (Romelu Lakaku included) that Liverpool FC will Not be signing. You may come back and try to say I 'know nothing' when I assure you that I do, and this is the Truth.
MPez
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I find it strange that you seem to know what all of these players are going to do, when there is still quite a while to go before the window will open again. and a lot can change in that time. Adam has said that he will decide at the end of the season where he will go. And the eds have a different view on Adam. And most people come on this site and say they know lots, when in fact they know nothing. Ross
02 Apr 2011 16:16:41
Glad t have a breakthrough hopefully the game will become more open, our whole midfield doesn't work at all :( summer many incoming please
02 Apr 2011 16:17:54
Vipstand.net
go to link2 vshare, that's the best
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any site that asks for your mobile number is not to be recommended.
02 Apr 2011 16:20:49
Great Header, Hyypia-esk type goal :)
Look Woy, Liverpool winning away from home ha
corkpoolred
02 Apr 2011 15:56:00
Anyone have a link to watch the game online i need to watch the mighty reds
vipstand.net
go to link2 vshare, that's the best
02 Apr 2011 15:57:15
Referee is h*****G hopeless, numerous clear fouls on Carroll non given pathetic, we look very weak going forward but. 2am local time here in Melbourne Australia cmon reds make the late night worth it.
Aussie red
02 Apr 2011 16:00:19
Our bench is shockingly bad. . Ithink it's going to be an expensive summer.
02 Apr 2011 16:02:02
That first half was so poor, i think hodgson was managing both teams. I think more than ever it proves how desperate for wingers we are. We have absolutly no one who can take a man on and beat him. Should I watch the second half or just go out for a pint?
RED BOB
02 Apr 2011 16:02:47
What are our chances of signing Stevan Jovetic this summer? He is a class act and at 21 he's got years ahead of him. I know Rafa wanted him but if we are monitoring young, talented players he must still be on the list of potential players who suit us. What you reckon?
02 Apr 2011 15:47:27
EDs:
I asked twice yesterday why two of my posts relating to Standard Chartered had not been posted.
I have yet to find a reply, so I can only imagine I have been banned from posting.
Oh well, it was fun while it lasted.
Rather strange though.
Steve Parker {Ed002's Note - I certainly did not cut any yesterday and I can certainly see a Standard Charter post at 10:38 - annotated beautifully with my thoughts. I assume this is the post you are referring to (in Banter 3). As to why you did not get a response to your question we will probably never know - it would have likely been one of the other Eds as I spent the evening socialising with chums.}
02 Apr 2011 15:48:51
Sorry Ed missed the first half. any idea why there was 4 mins injury time?Is Suarez still on Ed ? {Ed002's Note - Yes but Sotirios Kyrgiakos came on in place of Glen Johnson after 8 minutes. Then Agger was replaced by Wilson on 25 minutes.}
02 Apr 2011 15:50:16
Baines, Cahill, Kjaer, Kelly would be a better formation than we currently have.
Deadwood list:
Agger (sick note) great defender but always injured
Carra (too old) great defender but not getting any younger
Aurellio (sick note) never plays
Soto (the Greek bin man) useless
Skirtle (headless chicken) steamer
Johnson, Wilson, I would keep and also add Scott Dann as back up.
Gone2curl1
02 Apr 2011 15:51:25
I must admit that I love how many Liverpool are calling me a 'Dirty Manc' when I am probably one of the Most Unbiased Football Fans when it comes to transfer news. .
I am just telling you what I know.
I think you will recall my post last week stating who Liverpool will be moving for (Hopefully an Ed can confirm this).
Plus, don't tell me to 'Get off this Site' as it is a 'Liverpool Banter' and 'Rumours' site which you do not have to be a Liverpool fan to post on, which the Ed will confirm.
Yous don't seem to mind your Bellboy 'Blair Mayne YNWA' being on our site, and nor do we.
MPez {Ed002's Note - I am afraid I rarely remember posts from a long time ago unless they were "classics".}
02 Apr 2011 15:53:08
Kuyt is having his fortnightly shocker! Just cos we hav Carroll up front does it mean every other pass must be a long ball? Can't see us winning this- really don't wana giv hodgson the satisfaction tho!
Disgruntled Jason
02 Apr 2011 15:54:16
Mpez, you might be right, we might not sign any of the mention players, fair enough. But my question to you is, why do you care who Liverpool do or don't sign in the summer? Please worry about your own team while we worry about ours.
Corkpoolred!
02 Apr 2011 15:54:37
What a surprise a typical liverpool away performance with injuries and a s**te ref
any1 wanna bet that carroll will be sent off cause of the ref
hate it when we play like this, it shows the lack of depth we have in positions, no right or left back now no decent midfielders left-injuries, and a striker who the refs hate
not going to well today is it?
02 Apr 2011 15:46:50
What a midfield we have today! I dispare
02 Apr 2011 15:40:21
Has the referee been paid some money or summim. Its insane. Biast like f***.
Harry5:)YNWA
{Ed006's Note - Every Carroll jumps he blows for a foul...}
02 Apr 2011 15:35:12
Pacheco doing well for Norwich
02 Apr 2011 15:34:54
Find it quite funny to see so many mancs have to come on our site
Get a grip mpez
Great site eds
02 Apr 2011 15:26:31
Add agger to the injury list also, knee again
Now our defense is looking very dodgey
02 Apr 2011 15:17:59
Anyone have a link to watch the game online i need to watch the mighty reds
02 Apr 2011 15:02:43
Hey ed
where all theses Lamela rumours coming from and is he a good player, ive heard he was?
tanks Danny {Ed002's Note - There is potential interest in the player - but I wonder if it may be very high risk.}
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Why is it high risk, out of interest?
{Ed002's Note - He would be reasonably expensive, is very young, has only played a handful of games and he wants to move to Barcelona.}
02 Apr 2011 15:07:58
The Mancs are already coming on this site to claim Number 19. Please don't mention it will have taken them over a Century (110 years) to get more titles than us. What kept them? And please don't mention the gaps of 40 years and 26 years when they couldn't win the title.
Don't write off Arsenal to pip them to the post.
02 Apr 2011 15:08:26
Johnson done his hamstring add him to the list as well,
02 Apr 2011 15:09:10
Can anyone give me a link to watch the game just now , i hate missing the mighty reds [play
02 Apr 2011 14:57:32
Did anyone see the chelsea flag on sky sports? were louder than the kop LOL
02 Apr 2011 14:59:41
In reply to:
"DM: I want to congratualte Lucas for getting a new contract, he has been brilliant. We will probably sign M'vila but not throw him straight into the starting XI, we will devolop him as he is very young."
Yann M'Vila is 20 years old you tool. Plus, he won't go to Liverpool - SAF has already been to watch him and will sign him in the Summer.
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"CM: Adam would love a move to Anfield and cherishes the oppertunity to work under KK, I don't think there is any doubt that we will sign him, great player, I think he will snub Spurs and even Unuted to join us as he pushed for a move to us in January."
Charlie Adam to Tottenham Hotspur is known about. It will happen. He will not play for Liverpool.
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"ST: I expect a young, strong, quality striker to accompany Suarez and Carroll up front and the possibilties are. Benzema (If Madrid sign Llorente), Llorente, Wickham or Lukaku."
Benzema will move to Manchester United if he goes to England - most football fans know this.
Llorente to Real Madrid has already been agreed, common knowledge.
Romelu Lakaku has already said he will only go to a TOP club in England, and right now Liverpool are not there.
MPez
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There's a link to the Manure page in the drop box at the top, think you might have missed it.
02 Apr 2011 14:42:02
02 Apr 2011 14:17:18
In reply to:
"DM: I want to congratualte Lucas for getting a new contract, he has been brilliant. We will probably sign M'vila but not throw him straight into the starting XI, we will devolop him as he is very young."
Yann M'Vila is 20 years old you tool. Plus, he won't go to Liverpool - SAF has already been to watch him and will sign him in the Summer.
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"CM: Adam would love a move to Anfield and cherishes the oppertunity to work under KK, I don't think there is any doubt that we will sign him, great player, I think he will snub Spurs and even Unuted to join us as he pushed for a move to us in January."
Charlie Adam to Tottenham Hotspur is known about. It will happen. He will not play for Liverpool.
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"ST: I expect a young, strong, quality striker to accompany Suarez and Carroll up front and the possibilties are. Benzema (If Madrid sign Llorente), Llorente, Wickham or Lukaku."
Benzema will move to Manchester United if he goes to England - most football fans know this.
Llorente to Real Madrid has already been agreed, common knowledge.
Romelu Lakaku has already said he will only go to a TOP club in England, and right now Liverpool are not there.
MPez
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Must be another dirty Manc on our site again.
02 Apr 2011 14:39:36
Na na na na na na nineteen! ! ha ha ha
02 Apr 2011 14:31:07
02 Apr 2011 14:22:03
That's it Man Utd will win the league, fact.
and its not April fools anymore.
harry5:)YNWA
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i said that at 2:2. lol. now it bloody 2:4.
they just somehow always win.
harry5:)YNWA
02 Apr 2011 14:26:04
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02 Apr 2011 14:17:18
In reply to:
"DM: I want to congratualte Lucas for getting a new contract, he has been brilliant. We will probably sign M'vila but not throw him straight into the starting XI, we will devolop him as he is very young."
Yann M'Vila is 20 years old you tool. Plus, he won't go to Liverpool - SAF has already been to watch him and will sign him in the Summer.
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"CM: Adam would love a move to Anfield and cherishes the oppertunity to work under KK, I don't think there is any doubt that we will sign him, great player, I think he will snub Spurs and even Unuted to join us as he pushed for a move to us in January."
Charlie Adam to Tottenham Hotspur is known about. It will happen. He will not play for Liverpool.
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"ST: I expect a young, strong, quality striker to accompany Suarez and Carroll up front and the possibilties are. Benzema (If Madrid sign Llorente), Llorente, Wickham or Lukaku."
Benzema will move to Manchester United if he goes to England - most football fans know this.
Llorente to Real Madrid has already been agreed, common knowledge.
Romelu Lakaku has already said he will only go to a TOP club in England, and right now Liverpool are not there.
MPez
You're cheerful lol
02 Apr 2011 14:22:03
That's it Man Utd will win the league, fact.
and its not April fools anymore.
harry5:)YNWA
02 Apr 2011 14:13:42
02 Apr 2011 13:35:27
Is it true that erik lamela has been at melwood sometime this week? I have no opinion on this player i have never seen him play, i have been told that he could be the argentinian version of our very own gerrard! Anybodies views or info is greatly appreciated.
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Would he not struggle getting a work permit?
LAVERS
02 Apr 2011 14:10:39
Same team that won at Sunderland.
The Reds team in full is: Reina, Johnson, Carragher, Skrtel, Agger, Spearing, Lucas, Meireles, Suarez, Kuyt, Carroll.
Subs: Gulacsi, Cole, Kyrgiakos, Maxi, Wilson, Ngog, Poulsen.
Source: lfc.tv
02 Apr 2011 14:01:18
Hey guys, just take look on Twente young wide midlefilder Nacer Chadli. .i think that him is just what we need and we can ge him cheaper than other players that we are interested in. .ED what do you think {Ed001's Note - sorry I have no idea about him.}
02 Apr 2011 13:50:40
I've been told something completely different to most of the rumours on here.
I've been told:
-Young is going Manchester United
-Baines is inevitable as Everton may receive the same bid from other clubs to match ours, so why would they sell to us?
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Inevitable means certain or unavoidable so that statement doesn't make much sense
02 Apr 2011 13:45:54
Ed wiv all the hype surrounding a C/ B do you really believe we need one? as personally i don't think we do as we have wilson, ayala, kelly, wisdom, who i believe would all be able to step up to the plate. i believe we should put our resources into a LB, DM, 3 WINGERS,
summer ins i think we should go for
BAINES*/ ENRIQUE**/ TAIWO/ KADLEC
M, VILLA*/ GAGO**/ BENEGA
YOUNG**/ JARVIS/ DZUSDAK*/ JOHNSON*/ GERVINHO*
BAINES-14M,
M, VILLA-15M,
DZUSDAK-12M, GERVINHO-13M, JOHNSON-18M
TOTAL 72M
2ND CHOICES
ENRIQUE-8-10M
GAGO-8-10M
YOUNG-10-14M
TOTAL 34M
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .REINA. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
JOHNSON. . . .KELLY. . . . . . AGGER. . . . . . .BAINES
. . . . . . . . . .M, VILLA. . . . .GERRARD. . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . JOHNSON. . . SUAREZ. . . . DZUSDAK. . . . . .
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .CARROLL. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
SUBS, CARRA, LUCAS, MEIRELES, GERVINHO, SHELVEY, SUSO, PACHECO
WAT DO YOU THINK ED?? ?? PLSE POST. i no you don't comment on teams but wat about the players?? ?
{Ed002's Note - I expect that a centre back will be considered in the summer. Most of the players that you have listed are viable targets.}
02 Apr 2011 13:31:10
Where can I watch the game today?
Danny
02 Apr 2011 13:19:09
Lucas is the kind of player every team could use, whether it's in the starting eleven or on the squad. He works hard, sometimes making up for the lack of effort being shown by other players, most notably Gerrard in the defeat at West Ham where he was left to face three of their midfield.
I also like him as he does spread the play from left to right, even if it is short passes along the floor. This will work welll next year when we finally have some sort of width!
Similar kind of player to Mikel, Busquets, maybe even fletcher in my opinion. Maybe not as good, but similar.
Fletcher and mikel better than lucas? Busquets yeah fair enough but not by much. The difference is lucas can play the "control and pass" def mid style that these others play but he's also confident in the final 3rd, and has a cracking shot, making his effective zone on the field from our box to their touchline. The problem is he is given the responsibility of staying back and rarely gets the opportunity to go forward. If we had stevie and lucas in the centre alternating who went forward and who defended like stevie used to back in the day, we would have an absolute monster-smashing engine room. Instead we have stripped stevie of defensive duties which is negating half of his effectiveness.
I'm gonna start a campaign to free lucas, just because i'd like to see what happens. I don't think we need a defensive mid with stevie and lucas, we just need two traditional centre mids. Just my thoughts. .
Duckula
FREE LUCAS
02 Apr 2011 12:55:17
I'll be realistic. .
GK: If Reina wants to go, he won't go to United, he knows how much we hate the Mancs. But I think he'll go, most likely abroad. . If that is the case we will bring in a quality young keeper, probably Akinfeev, Neaur or Lloris, most likely Lloris
Defence: We need another CB to partner Agger. Carra probably only has another 1 year left in him before he becomes awful and Skrtl isn't good enough. We need a relatively young CB, probably Cahill, Mussachio or Kjaer. In my opinion I would go for Kjaer because Agger is also Danish and would persuade him to join, they will together, become a great partnership at the back. Cahill is overrated and expensive.
LB: We need a new left back and We will get Enrique, not my first choice but DC and KK like him. He has had a good season with Newcastle and has got premiership experince.
DM: I want to congratualte Lucas for getting a new contract, he has been brilliant. We will probably sign M'vila but not throw him straight into the starting XI, we will devolop him as he is very young.
CM: Adam would love a move to Anfield and cherishes the oppertunity to work under KK, I don't think there is any doubt that we will sign him, great player, I think he will snub Spurs and even Unuted to join us as he pushed for a move to us in January.
AM: No change here
LW/ RW: Ashley Young is a possibility but the Macs want him and may be able to tempt him there. 50/ 50. Another player is A.Johnson but City are reluctant to sell. Payet is possible.Jarvis will be bought.
ST: I expect a young, strong, quality striker to accompany Suarez and Carroll up front and the possibilties are. Benzema (If Madrid sign Llorente), Llorente, Wickham or Lukaku.
I expect only 4 of these players that I have mentiones to sign.
Lloris
Kjaer Agger
Kelly Enrique
Jarvis Gerrard Young Payet
Suarez
Carroll
What do you think about this Ed?
Sam, 13. {Ed001's Note - personally I am not keen on Lloris, every time I have watched him he has had a mare. Kjaer is not good enough from what I have seen, I would rather move Kelly to centre back or bring back Ayala than waste money on a average player. The midfield would get completely over run, neither Young nor Gerrard will do enough defensively and we would get ripped to shreds in the most important part of the pitch.}
02 Apr 2011 12:53:16
I agree with the earlier post about meriless. I think the management team have been smart to find him this 'in the hole' position because he's not good at anything else. In the majority of his games he is so un - effective it's unreal. He can't pass, can't tackle, hasn't got a trick and has no turn of pace . With this in mind, kenny has played him in a position with no responsibility and where he can receive the ball and not be a liability for the team with the sole aim of getting in the box and getting a strike on goal. When he has played in the middle (apart from spurs away ) you would struggle to realise he was actually on the pitch. He won't last long as it will be stevey plus another in a 442 or Lucas, stevey plus another in a 433. Also with Carroll up front you would rather have stevey in the hole as he played so well with crouchy and banged in loads of goals.
One last point. I think we sud buy Stewart downing instead of Adams and play him in the centre as he played for boro just before he left. I think he has the potential to be a top player in that position as his speed slows down and would do a good job like Milner was doing in the middle at villa.
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Absolute codswallop. He was bought to play in the hole or thereabouts as that's where he excels. I really can't fathom how you arrived at your conclusions. Like many players he doesn't function when played out of his position. He was not bought as a utility player. He was bought to do a specific job and in my book he's doing it though I do hope he hits the gym this summer.
02 Apr 2011 12:33:42
This is from The Associated Press:
The parent company that owned the Boston Red Sox, Liverpool FC and half of Roush Fenway Racing has changed its name to Fenway Sports Group.
The umbrella group owned primarily by John W. Henry and Tom Werner was formerly known as New England Sports Ventures. Company officials said it was assuming a new corporate name to better reflect its reach into NASCAR and English Premier League soccer.
Fenway Sports Group had been the name of NESV's marketing arm. It will now go by Fenway Sports Management.
02 Apr 2011 11:49:40
GK:Reina/ Gulacsi:No Goalkeepers will be brought inn, if doesn't leave
Defence:Here we have a few i think mostly our problem is LB, Maybe bring in Enrique/ Kadlec/ Baines/ Izaguirre
CB:Dann definitely. No Cahill
Midfield:I think we need a defensive midfielder For me it stands: Sissoko/ Gago one of them
And three wingers, and for me it is Young/ Jarvis/ N'zogbia
Forward:I highly doubt:Lukaku/ Vucinic/ Benzema
Maybe these average subs:Toivonen/ Park chu young or Llorente(Llorente is not a sub)
eds?
02 Apr 2011 10:52:11
ED who would you make as favourite to sign in the following positions CF. . AM. . .Wingx2. . LB. . . .CB. . .
Cheers Dave {Ed002's Note - I don't think anyone knows how is favourite to sign. One noted subscriber says that Young, Adam and Benzema are coming, but I am not so sure. There is clearly interest in Adam and Young so they must therefore be favourite. There is also interest in players like Enrique for left back which I find surprising. Marveaux remains the most likely addition.}
02 Apr 2011 11:18:19
Right can someone give me some answers please on how we are getting these players, young baines etc
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prices are inflated in january if you haven't realised, clubs are inwilling to sell their best players mid season. why else do you think we paid 35 million for andy carroll?
02 Apr 2011 11:21:52
I didn't mean that we should buy Mikel, i think a player like him.
Ed's who would you recommend? {Ed001's Note - I would recommend not buying a player like Mikel, he is abysmal.}
02 Apr 2011 11:13:24
How is it that Ashley Young is still touted as an 18 million pound valuation. He will be in his last year of his contract and I'm sure everyone can remember the awful deal we got for Michael Owen because of him being in his last year of his contract. I think we can get young for no more than £10 million.
Thoughts Ed? {Ed001's Note - it is well known he will be available cheap, I have never heard any serious talk of him valued at 18m.}
02 Apr 2011 11:07:53
Lol we are gonna make 14 signings . . . . . . . * rolls eyes *
02 Apr 2011 10:42:56
Ed i had to go out yesterday so i missed the press confrence at 12. .
When will mourinho be installed as boss? {Ed002's Note - July 14.}
Is this 100% gonna happen cos i am about to re mortgage my house and pop down to ladbrookes this avy?"
Make sure you also borrow from every loan shark and gangster around where you are and tell us time and place of the deal. By the sound of it you don't need your money. ha - ha.
Terrible behaviour i cud of got myself killed over a bit of banter im goin to koptalk.lol
02 Apr 2011 10:32:48
Lfc banter
I agree with the earlier post about meriless. I think the management team have been smart to find him this 'in the hole' position because he's not good at anything else. In the majority of his games he is so un - effective it's unreal. He can't pass, can't tackle, hasn't got a trick and has no turn of pace . With this in mind, kenny has played him in a position with no responsibility and where he can receive the ball and not be a liability for the team with the sole aim of getting in the box and getting a strike on goal. When he has played in the middle (apart from spurs away ) you would struggle to realise he was actually on the pitch. He won't last long as it will be stevey plus another in a 442 or Lucas, stevey plus another in a 433. Also with Carroll up front you would rather have stevey in the hole as he played so well with crouchy and banged in loads of goals.
One last point. I think we sud buy Stewart downing instead of Adams and play him in the centre as he played for boro just before he left. I think he has the potential to be a top player in that position as his speed slows down and would do a good job like Milner was doing in the middle at villa
02 Apr 2011 10:39:59
Gosh! That's not a scouse mate!
Since Dalglish took over our form is the third best in the premiership in front of the likes of Man Utd, Spurs, Man City and Arsenal.
Only Chelsea can match Liverpool's return of 19 points from the last 24 on offer to them.
By jove, I believe that's quite good don't you!
Simply Spiffing. . . indeed
02 Apr 2011 10:08:48
"Ed i had to go out yesterday so i missed the press confrence at 12. .
When will mourinho be installed as boss? {Ed002's Note - July 14.}
Is this 100% gonna happen cos i am about to re mortgage my house and pop down to ladbrookes this avy?"
Make sure you also borrow from every loan shark and gangster around where you are and tell us time and place of the deal. By the sound of it you don't need your money. ha - ha.
02 Apr 2011 10:09:23
To the guy who sad long for 7-9 million are u out of your mind
LD
02 Apr 2011 10:05:17
King Kenny was forced to play a 4231 due to him only having Torres as a ST option, which was why Meireles could play 'in the hole'. 20 people disagreed because maybe they understand that he doesn't have much of a future here at Anfield. Your obviously not football smart to see that. I'm not trying to slaughter Meireles here by the way. I think he's a quality player, IF he's played in his position. He can't in a 442.
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Kenny won't solely play 4-4-2 (4-4-1-1 in modern terms) he will play the formation that he thinks will beat the opposition. Whether that be 4-4-1-1, 3-5-2, 4-2-3-1. But I think you will find he ops for a 4-4-3 most of the time as a midfield 3 is key in most games and any wingers that are signed will be considered for the forward wide roles not traditional wide men roles as the traditional 4-4-2 is somewhat ineffective in most games. Suarez (our best player) has in his carrer played most effective in a 4-2-3-1 but obviously he has the ability to play anywhere in the final third. I think on occasion we will play 4-3-3 with Meireles an atacking midfielder along side Stevie. However Meireles will compete with Charlie Adam for that postion.
02 Apr 2011 10:01:37
Ed i had to go out yesterday so i missed the press confrence at 12. .
When will mourinho be installed as boss? {Ed002's Note - July 14.}
Is this 100% gonna happen cos i am about to re mortgage my house and pop down to ladbrookes this avy?
02 Apr 2011 09:50:51
I think Liverpool need a player like Mikel
Ed's? {Ed002's Note - I am sure Chelsea will listen to a decent offer.}
02 Apr 2011 09:42:40
02 Apr 2011 07:53:36
Liverpool on the way down
even the standard chartered boss has said "Liverpool are a mid table team with an outside chance of europa league"
gosh, you lot must be naff, if that's what the shirt sponser thinks of you
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Gosh! That's not a scouse mate!
Since Dalglish took over our form is the third best in the premiership in front of the likes of Man Utd, Spurs, Man City and Arsenal.
Only Chelsea can match Liverpool's return of 19 points from the last 24 on offer to them.
By jove, I believe that's quite good don't you!
02 Apr 2011 09:43:56
Ed i had to go out yesterday so i missed the press confrence at 12. .
When will mourinho be installed as boss? {Ed002's Note - July 14.}
02 Apr 2011 09:35:03
02 Apr 2011 07:53:36
Liverpool on the way down
even the standard chartered boss has said "Liverpool are a mid table team with an outside chance of europa league"
gosh, you lot must be naff, if that's what the shirt sponser thinks of you
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I thought we are 6th! So is that mid table these days.
LAVERS
02 Apr 2011 09:37:08
Ed002, you've always said you find it "difficult" and "not sensible" to compare players. This was apparently the reason why you didn't answer me question as to whose mould Dzsudzsak, Payet, Griezmann and Marveaux were in.
Also, you're off the opinion that the are "better" players LFC could look to than Charlie Adam. To conclude that A, B and C are better than Adam you'd obviously have had to evaluate Adam's merits in comparison those players.
I don't get this, mate. You're able to say A and B are better than C and D, but can't say in whose ilk E and F are in, cause it's "difficult" and "not sensible" to compare players. How does that work? I'd appreciate an explanation.
Lastly, anyone who knows Payet, Marveaux, Griezmann and Dzsudzsak (not from YouTube vids, please), whose mould are they in? Come on people.
Kromkamp
{Ed002's Note - You seem to be just bleating and trying to pick holes in everything I say. It does not take a lot of effort to figure out the there are numerous better options thatn Charlie Adam available. He obviously does not qualify as a homegrown player so there is little redemption in that as an argument. If I start saying things like Sylvain Marveaux is in the mould of Serge Chiesa, which he is, then there will be a stream of messgaes disputing that. Similarly, if I were to say that Dmitri Payet were in the mould of Fernando Chalana, which he is, there would be numerous folks wishing to question that. I hope this helps explain matters for you.}
02 Apr 2011 09:31:05
I've been told something completely different to most of the rumours on here.
I've been told:
-Young is going Manchester United
-Baines is inevitable as Everton may receive the same bid from other clubs to match ours, so why would they sell to us?
-Benzema won't be moving now, but he was lined up to come in January hadn't Higuine(sp) got injured
-Adam is between Spurs, us, and Manchester United. Too hard to call really
-A. Johnson, he is a major name in Man City's side (along with Teves, Dzeko, Balloteli etc.) And they are reluctant to sell to us
Those are the players are obvious to everyone but a good few of them won't join
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You've basically said none of our targets will join.
02 Apr 2011 09:19:16
Targets:
Hennessey
Cahill/ Dann
Baines/ Enrique
Young/ Gervinho
Adam/ M'vila
A.Johnson/ Dzsudzsak
Lukaku/ Toivonen
Danny
02 Apr 2011 09:20:50
Ed, what position do you think we will spend the most money on in the summer? I would have thought we would be trying to buy some real big name wide players not just ashley young or matt jarvis
{Ed002's Note - It is impossible to tell where thye most money will go - and probably irrelevant. Players will be bought because they can add something to the squad, not because they are well known. Who are you thjinking of?}
02 Apr 2011 08:57:03
Even the standard chartered boss has said "Liverpool are a mid table team with an outside chance of europa league"
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I think you'll find he was talking about the clubs current position in the league. I guess your some manc! Pretty sad coming onto our site.
02 Apr 2011 06:06:00
All those who wanted Hodgson because of a decent cup run, you should hang your heads in shame and your partly to blame for this season.
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What complete rubbish. . . how are people at fault for our season for supporting our manager and givin him a fair crack. . .if kenny hadt improved our form would you say the same? ? ?
Matty b
02 Apr 2011 07:36:22
- - - -And where will MEIRELES go?!
How come 20 people disagreed? You don't want RAUL MEIRELES in our team? He's been our best player this season!
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Exactly, where does he fit? I don't see where he would fit into our team next season. His most effective position (& the only one he's been banging in the goals from) is 'in the hole'. There is no hole in a 442, which WILL be our formation under Kenny. Meireles is ineffective as a CM because he's not physical enough, also ineffective as a wide man because not enough pace. I guess if he did fit in, would be simply as a back up/ versatility man.
King Kenny was forced to play a 4231 due to him only having Torres as a ST option, which was why Meireles could play 'in the hole'. 20 people disagreed because maybe they understand that he doesn't have much of a future here at Anfield. Your obviously not football smart to see that. I'm not trying to slaughter Meireles here by the way. I think he's a quality player, IF he's played in his position. He can't in a 442.
02 Apr 2011 07:53:36
Liverpool on the way down
even the standard chartered boss has said "Liverpool are a mid table team with an outside chance of europa league"
gosh, you lot must be naff, if that's what the shirt sponser thinks of you
02 Apr 2011 07:54:44
I have been following the rumours closely though i am unsure as to who is coming i thought i would make a list of those who i believe wont.
Karim Benzema Gary Cahill Cazorla Costa Contreao Elia Gago Erikson Eden Aiden Mcgeady Hazard Mats Hummels Jeffren Kjaer Phillipe Mexes Payet Paul Robinson Micah Richards Nuri Sahin Alexis Sanchez Sakho Santon Moussa Sissoko Taiwo Arda Turan Willan Connor Wickham
for a number of reasons i do not think Liverpool will see these players.
02 Apr 2011 08:20:15
Morn eds hows tricks. . come on the lfc lets have 3 more pts today in KING KENNY WE TRUST.carrol will net 1 today lets have it the boys up the reds walk on come on the boys. .MORE WINS NEEDED. JAY ESSEX RED 4 LIFE RED TILL DEAD. . . . . BIG BIG MONEY WILL BE SPENT IN THE SUMMER MARK MY WORDS COME ON
02 Apr 2011 01:48:45
Ed I believe that Real Madrid will make a serious move in the summer for another striker. They will be looking at 2 options, either Llorente or Lucas Barrios. If they get one of these we should go for the other or go for Benzema any one of these would be a welcome addition. My preference would be for Llorente but he is probably Madrids first choice as well. I think the best value for money option would be Barrios. Would you agree? {Ed001's Note - I don't know, I haven't seen enough of Barrios to judge him.}
02 Apr 2011 01:40:13
A. Johnson and A. Young the two wide men needed to add the creativity and goals too liverpool. Both english and in the age range. Buy both for a total of 30 million. Bargin! !. Who would be your first choice striker ed ?. Thanks {Ed001's Note - Llorente would be my first choice, I can't think of any other striker that could compliment Carroll or play instead of him as a target man if he was injured.}
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Blair Mayne YNWA {Ed001's Note - there is no chance of him moving in the summer though.}
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ED. .is there a chance for llorente? ? {Ed001's Note - he is very likely to move in the summer so that gives us a chance of nipping in. It is by no means certain or even really likely but it is possible.}
02 Apr 2011 01:32:54
02 Apr 2011 01:22:08
A. Johnson and A. Young the two wide men needed to add the creativity and goals too liverpool. Both english and in the age range. Buy both for a total of 30 million. Bargin! !. Who would be your first choice striker ed ?. Thanks {Ed001's Note - Llorente would be my first choice, I can't think of any other striker that could compliment Carroll or play instead of him as a target man if he was injured.}
Is he not too similar to carroll tho. I know what you mean bout if he gets injured. But another poacher like saurez would be better in the long run. Someone like bojan or sturridge could be reasonable ?. {Ed001's Note - I wouldn't touch Sturridge, he brings far too much attitude with him and is not half as good as he thinks he is. He has found his level with Bolton in my opinion. I don't see Llorente as similar to Carroll, he is much more mobile and can play off a target man or alongside a poacher or second striker.}
02 Apr 2011 01:29:52
A. Johnson and A. Young the two wide men needed to add the creativity and goals too liverpool. Both english and in the age range. Buy both for a total of 30 million. Bargin! !. Who would be your first choice striker ed ?. Thanks {Ed001's Note - Llorente would be my first choice, I can't think of any other striker that could compliment Carroll or play instead of him as a target man if he was injured.}
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What about Gomez Ed? He seems to be half decent mate.
Blair Mayne YNWA {Ed001's Note - there is no chance of him moving in the summer though.}
02 Apr 2011 01:22:08
A. Johnson and A. Young the two wide men needed to add the creativity and goals too liverpool. Both english and in the age range. Buy both for a total of 30 million. Bargin! !. Who would be your first choice striker ed ?. Thanks {Ed001's Note - Llorente would be my first choice, I can't think of any other striker that could compliment Carroll or play instead of him as a target man if he was injured.}
02 Apr 2011 01:12:37
King Kenny wants competition for places.
- He wants 3 STs, Carroll, Suarez & Lukaku (who will be brought in) will compete for the 2 ST roles.
- He wants 3 NEW wingers, Young, A.Johnson & Dzsudzsak will compete for the 2 places out wide (as all 3 can play either side).
- Gerrard & Adam for the creative role in the centre. Lucas & Gago for the holding role.
- 4 CBs to compete, Carra, Agger, Cahill & Skrtel.
- 2 left full backs, Enrique & Insua. 2 right full backs, Johnson & Kelly.
- 2 GKs, Reina & Hennesey (no real competition there).
- And a few others for versatility, Kuyt, Wilson & Shelvey.
- - - -And where will MEIRELES go?!
How come 20 people disagreed? You don't want RAUL MEIRELES in our team? He's been our best player this season!
02 Apr 2011 01:05:00
Wouldn't suprise me if in 5 years time Lucas was captain tbh i think hes the right kind of player and a good role model. Obviously hes no world beater but he plays his role well and as a result is one of our most consistant preformers. Probably one of the first names on the teamsheet. You don't get into the Brazil starting 11 every time by chance do you. . he must be doing something right.
LFCJAKE
02 Apr 2011 00:29:35
As a few have mentioned, A Johnson is top quality and i would sooner pay 20m for him than 10-15 for young!
A Johnson is a player for the future so well worth the investment, heres hoping!
Forget Adam, let the spuds have him, Scotty Parker all day long!
01 Apr 2011 23:59:23
Lucas is the kind of player every team could use, whether it's in the starting eleven or on the squad. He works hard, sometimes making up for the lack of effort being shown by other players, most notably Gerrard in the defeat at West Ham where he was left to face three of their midfield.
I also like him as he does spread the play from left to right, even if it is short passes along the floor. This will work welll next year when we finally have some sort of width!
Similar kind of player to Mikel, Busquets, maybe even fletcher in my opinion. Maybe not as good, but similar.