Liverpool Banter Archive August 02 2014

02 Aug 2014 23:35:45
I'd take Balotelli all day long over Bony. Apart from the rather important fact that he would cost us less he has proven himself with City and Inter Milan, two top clubs in their respective leagues whereas Bony has so far proved himself to be a big fish in a pool of minnows. He would fit our system better as he is also quicker than Bony and more skilful. Yes, he does come with baggage but none of it is a showstopper. Getting him would go a long way to making up for the disappointment of missing out on Sanchez.

I really don't want another Suarez like character we all know Balotelli is very controversial :( He is a good player though.

I agree he is a better player but r we actually interested in either player? BR would need to realise he would have another Suarez on his Hans if he went 4 supermario. Wud need kolo n Stevie to get round him if we were

Think what he had proven at Inter and City is he can sulk, has poor attitude and if he doesn't fancy it you don't see him
High wages, load of bother

I don't remember ever watching him and seeing more the 45 seconds of real effort or quality in any match. I'd rather have Borini! for all the genius ballotelli is supposed to have I don't think he'll ever realise what he could have achieved

Fair point red mist, he's still so young and will matre( less controversy) if we get him he could be a game changer.

Bony is much better

02 Aug 2014 23:02:35
Hi eds,
Just seen the praise Rodgers had for balotelli.
Do you think we could see a bid being made for him?
Would it be 14 mil and do you think he would come? I know supposedly we want bony but rodgers certainly praised him so yeah.
Thanks

{Ed002's Note - I have no idea.}

02 aug 2014 22:41:52
looking like liverpool vs man u on monday
the season has arrived early

It's just a FRIENDLY! :-). Haha. Hilarious!

Liverpool vs Manchester United is never a "Friendly" Not in a million years. Two clubs would want to make a statement especially in the USA on who is the best successful team in England

03 Aug 2014 01:32:19
Friendly? No sir, I don't think so.

02 Aug 2014 21:32:29
Eds, if Liverpool were to buy Moreno after the super cup final would he be cup tied for Europe or does the super cup count as part of last years tournament, thanks.

{Ed002's Note - It counts as a friendly.}

02 Aug 2014 19:21:00
James Pearce has tweeted there was no Markovic, Sturridge or Flanagan in training today. Wdut eds?

It was reported Flanagan and Skrtel had little niggles for the Man City game. I don't think anyone outside the club is really sure on Markovic or Sturridge yet.

I believe that was yesterday

02 Aug 2014 23:18:33
I was at the Olympicias game last Sunday in Chicago and got a picture of Flanno on the pitch before the game. He had his left knee strapped up.

03 Aug 2014 06:47:10
Sturridge has a slight hamstring strain and is heading back home for treatment. Highlights the need for BR to buy another striker. Danny won't be available all season and although they are great back ups I wouldn't want to have to rely on either Rickie or Fabio as our main striker for an extended period.

02 Aug 2014 18:30:32
Just so you guys know, Reet made a fantasy league, and we have included many of the other pages in on the madness. So, let's prove we are the most knowledgable fans in the world and beat them!

If any of you have not signed up yet and would like to, google premier league fantasy and it's the first website. The private league code is 781641-191102.

02 Aug 2014 19:30:56
Cheers mate, I have just added my team

Pineapple express has joined! Good luck all

Raumati Hearts has joined

Already signed up, had a hard time choosing between Sakho and Lovren for my CB though!

02 Aug 2014 18:23:11
hey lfc fans

i do agree with (mikey b) in some way. but not in everything. I do agree expectations should be lowered.

the fact is. . Liverpool are not a big draw for top established players at the moment. they haven't been up in the top 3 for a long time and involved in the champions league. so players forget and are fickle to what's popular at that time.

we came 2nd. but lost suarez. its tough to expect the team to do well again.
so I think Liverpool are still building. they have to be in the champions league again next year to continue that and ONLY THEN will the top established players start to come.

so for now I think Liverpool have gone for young talent. and to try and coach them to be better and i'm sure soon these players are going to be the ones who will command top fees from other clubs.

dortmunds players came from nowhere special. from german teams and youth. I don't see the moaners talking about gotze or reus before dortmund won the league in 2010-11 season.

so just try and understand that Liverpool are still building towards a consistent high level. .doesnt happen after 1 season sonny jim!

02 Aug 2014 20:04:24
I take what you post with a pinch of salt remember this Beaut you posted last season


22 Dec 2013 18:45:36
i have to say some of you lfc fans are nuts. you get way too happy to be top but in the next three games. you will gain a maximum 3 points. and chelsea and everton will jump right infront of you

dont you see how close the table is. it gives you guys false hope. 1 draw and your back down to 5th if everyone wins.so stop getting happy so fast when its clear by mid january or the end of janaury the real big guns will be back up there and the pretenders will slowly start to dip

no offence. but I even rate everton above you guys. just wait and see how they will jump over you in the next three weeks. remember my post!

red lobster

It was an imposter
It was confirmed by one of the eds

02 Aug 2014 17:28:17
Markovic back after Milan game slight nock.

02 Aug 2014 17:01:26
hi all

ive just read that vidal is going to utd, I think BR has lost the plot no wonder we are a laughing stock they buy kroos for 20 mil and we buy lallana for 25 mill, not putting lallana down but I would rather have had kroos for 5 mill less.

now we could have had a player with a winning mentality in vidal and we have let utd get him, and if Ed002 says is usual we were not even in for him then it makes it even worse because he is the type of player we should be in for, look what happend the last time we finished 2nd, the season after we finished 7th.

we never built on the sucess by not going in for the type of player like vidal is nickname is the warrior, would have been great for us if he is off to utd, imo we could have had fabregas, I got slated on here for saying it, people have short memories, he will help chelsea a lot.

we went in for sanchez but he went to arsenal and now vidal, we could have had any of them 3 who would have improved our team a lot but instead we buy potential, old and lallana the only player we have bought that has improved our team is lovren.

if we get moreno then we get a player who wanted to play for some one else at least lovren wanted to come to us and so did lambert, vidal would have shown the other teams we mean buisness, but with the players we have bought shows where our ambitions lie and that is not trying to win the prem.

Anyway my prediction on the players we have bought is a top 10 finish, all the other teams have bought players that will improve their teams, with suarez gone sturridge will be easir to mark out of the game, plus in pre-season he has not looked good, and our star buy is injured.

anyway I will continue to love and support the team I have done all my life but my expectation have been lowered and I don't expect much this season, I can hear the excises now the player is getting used to the prem league and his team mates, oh well onwards and downwards

02 Aug 2014 17:14:39
In order to continue to support a team you have to support them in the first place. Ridiculous, negative post with the sole aim of getting replies like mine I suppose. Our support could do without people like you.

I read Vidal demands transfer to united in the Metro, which is why I choose to believe it is rubbish. SS reported that Juve will only sell him if he puts in a transfer request.

One of the eds said Juve would rather sell Pogba in order to keep Vidal. I expect Utd to push for Vidal but I hope they do not get him since he is an incredible player.

{Ed002's Note - There is meant to be a decision on Vidal's future tonight.}

This has got to be one of the worst posts on this page
kroos had one year left on his contract lallana hadcfour kroos would probably be on around 10 million per year 50 in five years
only the transfer fee is not important
have you ever seen can or markovic.to classify them as average squad players
and "onwards and downwards" cut the rubbish you post on here and go back to fifa

How do you know he's going anywhere?

Good player but doesn't mean he wants to come to us or would even consider us.

Kroos wouldn't have signed for us either

02 Aug 2014 17:23:53
No offence, but it looks like you have almost zero knowledge of how much players cost or for that matter even how a transfer is conducted.

A top 10 finish? The more I read of this post the more I think I've been tricked into replying to a wind-up post! I really hope it is.

Fabregas would have been terrible for our style of play, tempo, setup etc I don't know how you cannot see that.

Just because we're not signing one player, Vidal suddenly we're rubbish and a top 10 team? Get a grip, mate!

Yes, Vidal is a great player but we can't sign everyone. There's more to a transfer than a transfer fee mate so don't harp on about "Toni Kroos cost xyz" because you're wrong.

You're the biggest hypocrite ever you don't want Moreno because he wants to play for someone else but kroos and Vidal would be chomping at the bit to play for Liverpool? I think not.

Then on to wages they do exist you know so kroos would probably end up costing double what lalanna does over 5 years. Vidal probably triple.

Finally you actually wanted fabregas? That's the point where you became a laughing stock to me. he has nothing? He sits in a number 10 kind of role without ever tackling looking uninterested and scoring the occasional tap in. the position he played at arsenal he doesn't have the class to do anymore if he did then hence why he didn't get played for barca there his passing range is non existent and on par with Joe Allen which is a compliment to cesc.

Final point it is moany fans like you that make the club a laughing stock not the club itself.

We finished second and have added 4 first teamers and lost 1 as well as adding a very good bench and our youngsters and we're not done yet!

I stopped reading when you said "we could have had any three of them".

Also at no point have you considered how much wages a player is on; I doubt lallana is on 100k per week but even if he is it's half of what Kroos is on.

Your prediction also gives you a " out of jail" card as you've said top 10 - does that mean you do not expect us to be in the top 5?

Lol your an person!
Vidal & kroos would put us in huge dept, there on 4 times what lallana makes.

We've got a very good team now lovren, Moreno, lallana, markovic are all top signings imo, sterling is looking better than hazard right now and we have the best goal scorer in the league.

We do need another striker hopefully bony, and we'll be in very good shape.

There's no need to spend 50m on Vidal or Reus.

Henderson is going to be one of the best CMs in the league this year.

Stupid silly post. Prob a evertonian or a utd fan pissed that they can't attract top players.

You must of been rumbling this type of nonsense when we bought coutinho and sturridge right? if you don't trust the team and its staff, then just accept the fact that you support a top10 finish team and be done with it. trust me, its allot healthier

02 Aug 2014 17:27:16
This was so embarrassing to read.

Who are you to question who Brendan Rogers wants for his team?
You think you know better than him?

02 Aug 2014 17:27:38
No offence, but it looks like you have almost zero knowledge of how much players cost or for that matter even how a transfer is conducted.

A top 10 finish? The more I read of this post the more I think I've been tricked into replying to a wind-up post! I really hope it is.

Fabregas would have been terrible for our style of play, tempo, setup etc I don't know how you cannot see that.

Just because we're not signing one player, Vidal suddenly we're rubbish and a top 10 team? Get a grip, mate!

Yes, Vidal is a great player but we can't sign everyone. There's more to a transfer than a transfer fee mate so don't harp on about "Toni Kroos cost xyz" because you're wrong.

But you realise that Kroos is a far more expensive buy than Lallana? The reported fee may be 5 million less, but wages and other fees make it a far, far more expensive transfer than Lallana's.

Let's be honest we are not going to get Vidal, as much as I'd love to. We have a good core in midfield, that came close to winning the league last season, and with a couple of the additions this summer, could certainly challenge again. Stop with the negativity!

You still think we can afford kroos? you must be new here.

Don't cry flower.
I could go into the myriad reasons as to why we were not in for Vidal, but I fear it would fall on deaf ears.
Just relax man. Enjoy it.

02 Aug 2014 18:10:37
The thing that really worries me about this post is that it got 3 'Agrees'

1 braincell between the three of em

Mickey its being so cheerful that keeps you going, keep off the drink mate.

02 Aug 2014 18:27:15
Come on fella, the team will be fine. Trust me. Anyway, think Vidal will stay at Juve (though would love him to come to LFC). On another note Mickey, Arsenal are trying very hard to get William Carvalho, should we try to hijack a move for him bearing in mind the cost and wages etc. . .

Man City haven't added any guaranteed first team starters so far (Mangala may have already signed, so perhaps they have signed 1) and we finished 2 points behind them last season. We have lost Suarez, but anyone with a brain knew he was leaving as early as last season, and Rodgers DEFINITELY knew he was going, so I have no doubt the signings he has made were well-thought out and will improve the team as a whole, so why would you assume we're on a downward spiral to mid-table obscurity? Plus, why would you want to use a huge chunk of the Suarez money on a central midfielder, a position we're already fairly strong in? I don't encounter many Liverpool fans up in the North of Scotland, but of all the fans i've met over the years, i've never met one like some of the negative people on this website. Absolutely ridiculous.

Strange what happens when you use the search function.

"hi all

who reckons shane long would be a good signing and how much would he cost, I think he would be a good buy, him or jay rod

mickey b"

Up there with the Vidal's, Sanchez's and Kroos's.

Literally the worst post I've ever read, just read these forums - getting involved with them just highlights your zero knowledge of football!

Why exactly would you prefer Kroos? His name and the fact he played for Bayern? he plays centre mid not left wing like Lallana!

All of these fans out there going on about starters etc Brendan wants to play 4-3-3 next year and has gone and bought a 25 million LW, 20 mil CB and potentially a 20 million lb, they were the only positions in are first team that needed filling!

Who would Fabregas, Vidal, Kross, Bony, Hummel's, Reus replace in the first team? Oh and don't comment on this unless you can give me proper reasons to sign these players and because Chelsea, arsenal and united are signing them doesn't count!

Im not discounting there quality but some fans reasoning for wanting them is just personic! Fifa 15's out soon, just go bananas on that buy whoever you want!

Interesting you think we could have got Sanchez when we pretty clearly didn't. Not even sure how that remotely makes sense.

It`s just a wind-up post to see how many peple respond. Clearly, it worked.

What a complete person!

I'll look out for you winning the Darwin Award soon pal ;-)

There's a reason pep is not bothered in losing Kronos. He dwells on ball to long. Fabregas wants to play in London as does Sanchez.

person. Btw I bet a few year back you were saying why have we spent 24m on this saurez when for same amount we could get dzeko. T@'lnt

Ive read all your replys and my post was a rant, I knew I would get a lot of posts calling me but its my opinion and I stand by what I say, I do know how transfers work and yes kroos wages would have been more than lallanas but by how much none of us know how much lallana is getting in wages compared to kroos, red phil I wanted suarez not dzecko, we nearly lost suarez because of our opening bid of 12 mill I think it was, but I let the money men worry about the money we spend, and if we could have afforded sanchez and given suarez the pay rise we did then I think we could afford vidal, a lot of you missed the point I was trying to make, and that was we are losing top class player to our chief rivals, that worries me, it might not worry you as you seem all to focused on the money but I think our owners are very good buisnessmen and they know what they are doing when it comes to money, but to lose these type of players or not even go in for them makes me think about our ambitions and where we want to finish, I want us to win the prem so much, but a lot our happy with getting 4th place to be in the champs league for the money, but to get far in it you have to have top players, emre can and markovic look to have great potential but they are not the finished article, markovic reminds me of mcmananam, or patric berger I've followed Liverpool for 49 years so I know I little bit, but it seems like now days your not a fan if you have concerns, in the 70s and 80s we went out and bought the best now days we are buying potential gat a grip, that's the reason we were so good because we bought the best its like when we sold keegan we got daglish looked how that turned out, this time we sold surez a bought lambert there's a big difference there, I like lambert and he will scre some important goals, but he is no suarez or a better replacement

02 Aug 2014 16:36:49
Is it fair to assume that if - as ssn are reporting - Mauricio Isla signs for QPR, that would mean an end in their interest in Glen Johnson?

Isla can play rb & rm so you're probably right but it's possible they could want both

02 Aug 2014 15:02:27
Tj Red

In regards to your post yesterday on our Liverpool - banter.co.uk site(p.s everybody please start visiting it again its gone into a bit of lul)
First of all thank you for entering in the league
as response to your suggestion I'd be certainly willing to open a league for all sites but apart from arsenal you really think they will cooperate?
and ed001 you entering the league?

02 Aug 2014 15:20:16
I feel like the arsenal group would. Maybe the UTD group would have a few, though other than CTR I don't know any of them. You may get 1 or 2 only from some pages but it's worth a shot. I'd be willing to ask if you need!

02 Aug 2014 14:17:04
Hi Eds,

Is there any truth in the Balotelli rumours, many reports have came out that we want to sign him because Brendan praised him.

Also, reports are saying that we are in for Bakkali, is this true?

Thans!

{Ed002's Note - Search engine please.}

02 Aug 2014 14:05:24
armin hodzik can somebody explain why we sold him please he is still young and could develop into bosnias first choice striker in the next five years (based on watching clips and reading journalist reports from his home country) thank you

02 Aug 2014 15:25:47
Work permit struggles I think. I think he will develop into a good player too. The type of guy who will score goals wherever he goes.

Hodzic couldn't get a work permit, had to let him go. Loaned him out to Zeljeznicar to try and get a work permit season after season but we could never manage it so we let him go.

Lfc fan beef it would seem more reasonable to keep loaning him till he does get 1st team chances for the Bosnia squad now he is with dianoma zagreb and will end up at a juventus intermilan athletico type of team and how much did we sell him for anybody no??

02 Aug 2014 14:21:34
I think the beauty of our squad next season will be the fluidity of the attack, with the ability to bring on players like Markovic, Lambert, Borini and potentially someone like Konoplyanka/Bony (transfer dependent). I don't think the team will be the same every game, with changes for opposition, fitness, etc, but we have a good blend of talent.

What impresses me is the first XI (click link to see) Liverpool team formation, I have chosen has an average age of just over 24 (including the 34 year old Gerrard). Added to that the 18 year old Ibe, 20 year olds Markovic, Suso, and Can, the 21 year old Texiera, the 23 year old Borini, the 24 year old Kelly and Allen and players like Origi, Alberto, Sinclair, Rossiter, McLaughlin, Smith, Wisdom, etc, I think the future looks bright.

Jolly had a look at your team mate. Abit narrow but my selection would be very similar. Strong team

Agreed.

I'm arguing though that it will be hard to have a fixed formation with the players we have - with that XI both Coutinho and Sterling could move out wide, or Coutinho could remain central and Lallana could move out wide. It'll be an interesting team to watch to say the least.

02 Aug 2014 12:36:54
Can I introduce a phrase and concept to a selection of our fans. it's called 'double standards'. In one breath they manage to slate players for wanting to leave because they lack 'loyalty. Then, in their next breath, they want rid of Allen, Agger, Johnson, Lucas and any other player they don't think is good enough even if they've showed tremendous loyalty to our club.

Go figure.

02 Aug 2014 12:45:22
You make a good point mate but in their defence, football is a cutthroat business and all players a simply transient employees. However you can't have it both ways like you said.

Yeah I completely agree. A club gives a player money and they give the club their services. Rarely do players form emotional bonds with a club and don't get me wrong, when they do it is fantastic however it should not be a demand. Like you said a player should not expect loyalty off a club and a club shouldn't expect loyalty off of a player. Fans on the other hand should show players a bit of loyalty as they are representing our club and doing a lot to ensure success.

I'm with you Suffolk but remember it's a small minority that gather here and on other forums. On match days and when you hang around your mates etc you don't get the negativity. We won't have it. If anyone starts whining we tell them to do one.

Just blank em they'll soon realise we aren't havin it and hang out with the positive posters on here.

It would seem that some fans are simply fickle, it is double standards and completely self serving.

''I hate Borini, why won't he just something off.'' I honestly read that on a Youtube video comment section the other day. I just shook my head and presumed him a young and spoilt fan, bodes well for his future, i'm sure. :(

Thanks for the responses, fellow Reds. Here's hoping for an exciting and successful season and many more to follow

02 Aug 2014 10:56:08
Assuming Moreno is now nailed on and (according to Macca) Konyplanka could be back on with, maybe, Bony coming in. that would represent a fantastic Summer. With Lambert, Can, Lallana, Lovren and Origi (2015) I can see us being a force next season.

However, I would trade anyone we have for Vidal at the drop of a hat. He's Terry McDermott, Graeme Souness and Ronnie Whelan in one.We NEED a player who'll grab the game by the collar and thrust it at the opposition.

Steven Gerrard is a legend at the twilight of his career and, in my opinion, was never really that kind of Captain anyway. His game was always about leading by example. We need a leader who'll do that and more. namely, grab others by the collar and drag them over the finishing-line.

Henderson, Lucas, Allen?. .Sakho (maybe), Lovren (maybe), Agger (maybe).
Personally, I can see Kelly (if he conquers his glass legs) as a future captain or even Andre Wisdom
Whatever I think, I believe we're going in the right direction.

Henderson will be our future captain imo.

Red Rum

Lovren could if his Liverpool career kicks on

I agree. I think Henderson is that player.

Maybe Lallana will be a future captain?

Does it matter? The only thing that does matter is we have numerous players that could be - that means the team is full of leaders - always a good thing (unless they are on opposite opinions).

The position Vidal plays is literally the last position we need to strengthen.

And certainly not for 45 million.

Henderson, Can, not to mention Gerrard, can all play the Vidal role.

02 Aug 2014 15:52:03
Though may think it doesn't matter, would love to see he do captain lfc one day. Had a rough start with loads of criticism but through hard work has made himself a Liverpool and England starter, has a great attitude and is the only player who never seems to tire or look unfit, think he deserves it

02 Aug 2014 10:11:36
Hey ed01, so the two fullbacks and one more offensive player, and that would be it for the summer, eh? Personally, I am rather pleased with the transfer window, if Moreno goes through, we will have secured an exciting team for years to come (sorry, just not convinced by Brad Smith yet, hope he proves me wrong:>)
Two questions:
1. For the offensive position, which out of Bony, Lacazette and Konoplyanka seems most likely, and which one would you prefer?
2. In you opinion, if Suarez had stayed, which of the transfers would have gone through?

Wishing you a pleasant day!

{Ed001's Note - most likely Kono, prefer probably Bony as I have not seen enough of the other 2.
I have no idea. Literally no idea.}

02 Aug 2014 13:08:31
Thanks a million ed! I harbour the opposite expectations - I expect it to be Bony, but hope it is Konoplyanka (mainly subjective reasons, but also he is more versatile). Based on Macca's wording, I would think that nothing is decided yet, and the club is weighing up its options, would you agree?

Ed would Konoplyanka be an alternative to bony? I always thought kono was a winger.

{Ed001's Note - not sure mate.}

02 Aug 2014 10:31:13
Just add to my last post we still have coates aswell

02 Aug 2014 10:08:07
Morning fellow fans and the Eds. Addictive site, quite new to posting, but been viewing for ages.

Just thought I'd use the banter form to post a thought/view.

I'm really very happy with our summer window, our squad and our club. I think it's a bit of a shame to see many negative posts about our squad, needing a marque, the players signed aren't great names, low goal returns etc etc.

We've not played a game yet and a few here already post like we've not got a chance, how our rivals have got better bigger name signings. Forget what others are doing, we're doing what's best for us.

Well I for one am grateful of our situation. We all wanted CL football, we love exciting attacking fluid football, we want talent at the club and players who want to play for us, owners that back the club to improve. .We have all this.

We all could see the need to improve our squad size, especially with CL returning. We've moved early this window, spent a lot of money. I've watched the preseason games, we've bought well and our youth team are producing some really good players. We needed to improve our defence and strengthen midfield. This has happened and it looks like it'll continue with full backs coming in.

We lost Suarez, 31 goals + countless assists. But we have a manager and philosophy for quality attacking football, Lallana and Markovic, the rising of Sterling and Countinho will ensure quality continues. I remember we won games without Suarez during one of his many bans. We already have a team that finished 2nd and close to winning the title, we've strengthen that team to a squad and those that are here again from last season will improve from that, will know what it takes to get there. We have at least 2/3 systems and options that can be changed during a game, so flexible so amazing.

I just think we are in a better positive situation then have been for some years, capable of beating anyone and we beaten them all at one point. Fact. Let's just get behind what we have cause to me it all looks bright.
I don't care who else have bought whoever, we are buying players that suit our system and club and producing top talents like Sterling, Flanno, Ibe and lots more.
We're buying in £8m Coutinhos and turning them into £35m Costas and Sanchezs. You cannot buy a 30+ goal player. We were lucky to have one, they're rare, we enjoyed it while it was there. But how many of the 30 were wining goals?
I'd rather have a player that scores 10 but those ten got us 30 points, important goals. It's great to have a player who scores 3 hat ricks in a row, but those 9 goals will still be 3 points, unless we concede 3 (palace).

Soapbox moment over, hope not too boring and sorry I use 'we' everywhere but I'm part of this club and this club is a big part of me. JFT96 YNWA

02 Aug 2014 10:32:09
What an articulate and refreshing first post EmreCanDo. Nice to see posters actually supporting the team and methods which just failed to get us our first championship in decades.
You don't need to ever apologise here for voicing your opinions.

Great post, totally agree! YNWA

I agree mate, let's enjoy the attacking football that we have been producing and watching the squad develop, so we can see a strong team for every game we play.

Cool post, my sentiments exactly. Great owners and manager who are building for the long term. If we finish top 4 but continue to improve I will be really pleased as the stability should overcome the kneejerk manager-changing and buying of some of the other clubs

Good post.

The work done this transfer window puts us in good stead for future windows; we now have a good strong young squad; hopefully if all the older players perfrom as they can and the youngsters improve then we will have some team.

I'd like to see some players leaving (not in a bad way) just players not going to get a game might bring a negative attitude to the squad.

02 Aug 2014 09:40:36
Hi eds. New to this site and love it. Just wondering what your thoughts on some of the fringe players. Specifically Coates and Suso. Just read an article quoting BR saying SB had really impressed on pre season. Also read a while ago that Suso had impressed while on loan. Plus I have seen him certainly bulk up compared to the young man I saw bullied off the pitch at the britannia 18 months ago. Do either actually have a Liverpool future? Thanks.

{Ed001's Note - Suso may well do, if he is prepared to be patient and fight for his chance, though I think he will end up moving on personally. Coates was playing to sell, I really don't see him having done enough in preseason to change that. Unless there has been no interest, in which case we might have to keep him.}

Thanks for your thoughts. I have to say I hoped Suso could make it. I never felt sorry for a player until that boxing day game at the Brit! Won't be sorry to see Coates going. He always struck me that he was always out of his depth.

02 Aug 2014 09:12:31
Got a bit of good and a bit of bad news. After watching 10 minutes of the live feed from LFC training session and also looking at the photos from the training, Skretel was back on the pitch training with the lads, while Markovic was once again absent. This probably means that Markovic won't be suiting up tonight against AC. Milan :( I was unable to find any details in regards to his injury, so if anyone has got some info please share.

02 Aug 2014 08:24:46
I am really worried that at the end of the season it will turn out that the one move that have determined the 2014-2015 season for us is Sanchez decision to prefer Arsenal. I think with him (and without them having him) we would have had the edge over them and maybe on Man U as well (or at least be even with them). We made some good signings but as things stand and with us having to learn to deal with CL load as well, I am not surprised that most betting agencies have us 5th in line to the throne. Let's hope we have an injury-free season and that the team gel well together and surprise everyone. And also let's hope that some of the other teams (Arsenal and MAnU especially, City and Chelsea are too strong I think) will not play to thier their potential. If we are out of the top 4 at the end of the season, next summer will be very gloomy tansfer wise (and otherwise).

02 Aug 2014 09:33:09
I would much rather have Sterling over Sanchez any day of the week. Sanchez very inconsistent let it go he as signed for Arsenal. Markovic very promising will be very good as well. We have better options than Arsenal. Who care about our odds its what we do on the football field. Remember Brendan Rodgers Liverpool we're on our way to glory.

This is a very pessimistic way of looking at things. LFC have been saying for three years they are rebuilding. To do that we need new and capable youngsters which is what we have bought.

I go into the bookies nearly every day and they get it wrong more than they get it right if you are talking about favourites.

The players we have in our squad are good with a couple of exceptions. As much as I don't like Rogers, he does seem to get results from players and all the players we have bought do seem to be of a type. I also think Rogers believes in brains over muscle. This is something that I believe makes the difference. A clever player will see the game (messi) a clever team will win a game.

We will do fine this season. It doesn't matter where we finish, nor where we end up in CL. It matters that we put in a good account for ourselves especially at Anfield.

If we do not qualify for Europe next year it will be because of pessimism not because of ability.

02 Aug 2014 09:47:23
No point moaning about players that don't want to come let's focus on players that want to play for us and have a hunger to win titles with us bony and Moreno would do me fine let's see were that takes us.

Sanchez didn't want to play for us - we should be happy that any player that feels that way isn't part of our team.

Rubbish. There is no guarantee that he'll settle or fit into Arsenal. Sanchez doesn't improve their defence, the one that we destroyed last season (thanks BT sport marketing team for the constant reminders)

Fact is he didn't want to play for us. A South American, with family and friends in Spain, who doesn't want to play for us could end up sulky and causing problems. This has happened before.

I think Arsenal should be more worried by us and our front three of Markovic, Sturridge and Sterling. With clever players like Lallana and Coutinho feeding them

Mate in a nutshell don't worry we will be fine. Big names don't guarentee success.

02 Aug 2014 04:06:18
I wouldn't get too hung up on attacking depth.

We now have Markovic, Sterling, Lallana, Coutinho, Suso and Ibe to play anywhere accross the front three. The same players can form part of our attacking midfield options too.

We also have Sturridge and Lambert to play through the centre.

Borini will be replaced if he moves to Sunderland. (Bony or Lavezzi)

Very clever business from Liverpool in purchasing players that can play in different roles.

I just hope that a couple of the youngsters are given a chance too this year.

I would like to see more of Ibe and Suso.

With the amount of young, fast, attacking talent. I am looking forward to us creating a superstar. We do not need to go out and buy 1. He already plays for us.

02 Aug 2014 08:42:10
I remain uncertain what Suso will offer to the team as he will not be even making the bench on most occasions and Ibe needs a loan.

I'd like to see more of Suso and Ibe too. Also Robinson, Texiera and Ilori who I hope doesn't go on loan but learns our system and players.

02 Aug 2014 01:24:02
Sturridge looked a bit lost until Sterling came on against City, I think we were struggling to create chances, Sterling comes on we make some progress, I hope he stays clear of injury, we need that craft, well just my thoughts

01 Aug 2014 23:13:43
Well many people may finally get their wish. If llori joins Dortmund on loan and we play them in a friendly very soon could it be that finally llori plays the first half for Liverpool and the second half for Dortmund .

Yeah and open the door for united to sign hummels! Don't help them out, send ilori elsewhere on loan!

If he did the two clubs would be breaking fifa rules & could face sanctions but it won't happen because hummels isn't coming to Liverpool

If Dortmund see Ilori as good enough to replace Hummels, why isn't the question about keeping Ilori and playing him if he's that good?