Liverpool Banter Archive January 02 2014

02 Jan 2014 22:58:36
Is the Liverpool vs Oldham game televised?

02 Jan 2014 23:09:34
Afraid not.

Afraid not! :-(

Hardy1892

I'm sure it will be streamed somewhere

02 Jan 2014 22:02:05
Hi guys, it seems as if though salah could move to LFC in the summer according to world of twitter

Ed002 said they would look to sell in January if they didn't make the CL knock out stages which they have not.

02 Jan 2014 21:49:21
Quite a few rumours of Salah medical. but also a few rumours particularly from the BBC stating not till the summer. I hate twitter season. i'm happy when I see confirmed news
YNWA JFT96

02 Jan 2014 21:47:50
Right so Tello is off to Valencia on loan and Salah isn't moving in January . Next!

02 Jan 2014 20:53:33
If the twittersphere is right, we've agreed a fee for salah and he'll be a lfc player subject to medical. The guy is an awesome prospect, skilful, lightning fast, and got goals in him. He has also demonstrated with Basle that he can produce the goods at the highest level. Crucially he is a player who can improve the team now and will only get better with time. Fits FSG player profile perfectly just like Coutinho. Now for a defensive midfielder who can score goals, and also a left back, although Flano has shown that he is more than capable of playing in this position. Can't wait for Chelsea to some to Anfield and play Salah, and watch him torment them like he did in the Champions league

02 Jan 2014 19:44:08
Just for a change on the Salah and Mata questions.
Would like to hear people's first experience going to see the reds at Anfield. Ed002 have you been?

My first game was against Brondby in the Uefa cup. We were brought over on a school tour. Nothing better than a European night at Anfield

{Ed002's Note - I don't recall ever going to a game there.}

Liverpool v Norwich when I was six in the original Kop.
Pretty sure it finished nil nil and was boring as hell.
Strangely enough the Last one I went to was Suarez' latest hattrick at anfield against them.
I lost my lucky scarf on the way and dreaded the worst.
Great night.

Went to watch us vs Blackburn, WAAYYYY back when Michael Owen was still with us. He scored a hat trick and we won 4-0 I think.

Liverpool vs Tottenham in the 1991/1992 season, the game finished 2 nil with an Ian Rush brace .

I had travelled to Anfield in the midweek before for the Eufa Cup game against Genoa, it turned out to be an all ticket game and I had no ticket . Genoa beat us home and away that season but the game against Spurs the following Saturday made up for that disappointment .

Liverpool v West Brom and Robbie Keane scoring 2 goals

Liverpool vs leeds we won 5-0 ruddock scored 1st and I won a signed photo of Robbie fowler. I got a chance to meet a few players that day as well inside the players entrance players like fowler, Thomas, Luke chapman, john luckic and Steve harkeness and a few others but harkness was the nicest fella out the lot took time to have a chat unfortunately for him was injured at the time. That memory will stick with me forever.

Liverpool v norwich fa cup replay 3, 1 john Barnes diving headers Annie road end 1990/91 never looked back use to go ever week then catch the train from worcester to brum brum to lime st no 17 bus to the best place in the world . Straight into the kop for £7.50 entrance cup of tomato soup £1 . That's when it was a working class game .still get up there when I can and still have that same feeling ever time .love the place

V Stoke 1976. We won 5-3.

4-0 v Panathinaikos in the European Cup semi-final 1985

14th August 1971, Keegan's first game I think. vs Notts Forest. my late father took me to the Kop. we won 3-1 and I remember him telling me not to mention the swearing to my mother. happy days. YNWA

V Derby 1974 was in the paddock, cracking scrap with both teams in the idle of the pitch

Mine was stoke 5-3 too, what an atmosphere!

Man city carling cup 2-2 january 2012
bellamy making it 3-2 on aggregate and he puts the middle finger straigt up to mancini Priceless!

Apparently me dad took me when I was 3 years old to stand on the kop but I was too young to remember it. First game I remember was a European game against celta vigo when mostovoi destroyed us. I loved it, was about 13 went mental at everything, miss going the game.

First and only match so far was the Liverpool Everton game two seasons back at anfield. in the kop. 3 0. Stevie g hat trick. priceless!

V West Brom late 60's or early 70's with my older brother right behind kop goal, can't remember the score, remember 2 things, my pork pie with jelly in was horrible my brother gave it to a very grateful kid next to us and John Osbourne the West Brom goalie was gummy as f**c but funny as f**c as well, he was chatting to the kop through the game, probably when picking the ball out of the net!

My first game was the 3-3 draw with Manchester United. What a game that was. I think it was a Tuesday night and the change in mood from being 3-0 nil down after about 20 minutes to being 3-2 down at half time was unbelievable.
You just knew we were going to score the equalizer!
Needless to say I was completely hooked!
My last game was City at home when Carroll netted a brace and flanno made his debut. It's been too long!

03 Jan 2014 09:41:24
my first game at anfield was jan 1999 we won 7-1 even carra scored, first game seeing Liverpool was a crap 0-0 with dundalk preseason 1991.

Liverpool v FC Zurich 1977 European cup semi-final. Just turned 9 yrs old. Can't remember much of the game but do remember a sub for Zurich coming on who made Peter Crouch look small!

November 95 we lost 2-1 to Everton after a rush goal was disallowed. Kanchelskis scored both everton goals and fowler got ours.

European cup 1985 4 nil against panathinaikos

2011 I think it was, I have supported lfc since birth and always wanted to go but couldn't afford it. On my 22nd bday all my mates got together and got me a ticket! I was delighted and sat at home waiting for months. There was only one team I wanted to see us play against and that was Tottenham. We were really starting to struggle against them. Went to Liverpool 2 days before the match against Tottenham, toured the town, ate in carraghers restaurant. Match day rolls on and I get to anfield hours before the game. Ticket in hand I walk up to the stadium and I get told "sorry mate the snow is too bad we couldn't dry the pitch so the match is off" I was gutted! Haven't been able to afford to go again since! It's not all bad though, I flew through Manchester airport because it was cheaper and on the way back I met the whole utd team in the airport. They were going to a cl game. Got autographs and pics with them. I know they are the enemy but still you got to respect scholes and giggs ( the only ones I got in a pic with)

02 Jan 2014 19:17:29
Mata to Lpool would be absolutely legendary. very unlikely though

You have no idea how you sound mate #desperate . almost like you worship him

02 Jan 2014 18:55:23
Come on Brendan, Get on the phone to your pal Jose and sort out a transfer for Mata.

He is clearly frustrated at Chelsea, and we need an attacking midfielder of his quality.

Make it happen! Please ;)

Red Rum

I'm thinking Jose's going to come out and say that Mata's going nowhere. More possible than him joining us to be fair.

02 Jan 2014 17:54:58
Your thoughts eds? Pending for a few days, the signing of Mohamed Salah at Liverpool seems increasingly imminent. Monday, Al Jazeera reported that the Egyptian midfielder is going to sign for the Reds for a 4-year service.

He will be released by FC Basel after a check of € 8 million is disbursed.

Real nugget of Egyptian football, Salah is considered a worthy successor to Mohamed Aboutrika now retired. At FC Basel he was able to convince everyone.

Besides Liverpool, many other European ogres such as Tottenham, Chelsea, Everton, Juventus, Inter Milan and others are in his footsteps.

Best player in the Swiss league last season, Salah is highly anticipated on the banks of the Mersey.

{Ed002's Note - I have told you of the interest in him for the past three months.}

Is there any update on Salah Ed002?

{Ed002's Note - There is a significant difference in valuation.}

Between LFC and Basle? If so, negotiations are underway I presume! Which is progress I guess.

Do you no if Liverpool are prepared to pay the fee being asked if its the 12 million being asked why don't we just say it before someone else does most notably spurs

{Ed002's Note - How is "There is a significant difference in valuation" not clear?}

02 Jan 2014 17:19:27
today is the 43rd anniversary of the Ibrox disaster when 66 Rangers fans lost their lives when stairway 13 collapsed during the Old Firm derby, thoughts are once again with the families of those who lost their lives that day and with the supporters of RFC. YNWA jft96

02 Jan 2014 17:00:25
Ed fellow reds, just had a read on here and question to name fa cup team, my question is do we want to win a cup this year or get in top 4? Champs league my choice just for financial reasons .i think the gulf will get bigger each year now with spending rules .so top 4 is a must for me .

{Ed002's Note - The very clear target is the Champions League - as it is every year.}

02 Jan 2014 14:55:43
Hi Eds! Happy new year to everyone. Just wondered what the situation is with our players out on loan. Any chance that any of them could be re-called over January? We look quite thin on the ground at the moment.
Cheers

02 Jan 2014 16:15:49
i have a laugh for the readers, I have just bin on the everton page for some banter and what I saw was way way better than anything I coulda hoped for

from everton fan "the fa really need to look at the loanee rules because we conceided yesterday from a player stoke don't even own(assaidi)is that fair only lower leagues should be allowed to get players on loan?" haha I would love to know how many goals were created and scored from there loanees this year what a joke

I'm not even an Everton fan but it was clearly a joke.

And you have also not even copied the whole post to get viewers on your side.

Poor form

I actually see your point but you have to realise there was no replies when I read it and I only left out six words and that's cause I didn't read them was laughing my head off instead and like I have recently stated here i'm easily confused. its a curse! the we don't have any bit went straight over my head even though it was sarcastic still really funny and worth the read imo of course

Thats because I didn't copy it I done it from what I remembered poor form?no buddy that's banter getting people on my side what dya mean on my side?to back me up in a bar fight?and i'm not sure it was a joke pal and if it was we all get to laugh at it, I did, hence the sharing of it are you a Liverpool fan?maybe mid utd fan?

Everton fans just get ahead of themselves don't let them bother you, there having a good season solely because of there loan signings, what are they gunna do next year? they sure as hell can't afford to buy them except maybe barry. they are getting excited which they should be but bigger teams fans like us can see there not going anywhere, no money and when they send there loan player s back they will be screwed again.

{Ed002's Note - Actually they will have a couple of other players on loan next season, one of which might be quite a prospect.}

They have a loan sealed already for next season ed? Would that be normal?

Didn't know you was Roberto Martinez Ed002

{Ed002's Note - The player was not consulted on the matter until Tuesday this week.}

Do they have the option of keeping Deulofeu for next season ed?

{Ed002's Note - Only if they could reach a deal to buy him and I would not expect that to happen.}

Can you not tell us who?

{Ed002's Note - It is unimportant to you.}

Jim you are fast becoming a joke not just with Everton fans but also amongst your own. Your trawl down the EFC site left you with more than just egg on your face didn't it?
"I only left six words out" Must have been the big words then or was it that you wanted to try and twist Mike's comment to carry favour on this site?
"I've recently stated here I'm easily confused" Simply means that you didn't realise that the Everton poster was being ironic. Sorry for that - another big word for you to go and look up.

02 Jan 2014 14:03:38
Hi Eds.

First time post and more asking opinion than a rumour. With Sturridge injured and Aspas clearly not cutting the mustard, we are light up front. God forbid Suarez getting a bad knock!
I know it is rumoured that BR has looked at Danny Ings, but I was wondering if Berahino would be worth a look? He has EPL playing time, Has looked sharp and scored goals, has done well for England U21. Also not a regular starter for the Baggies so wouldn't be a huge change to be on our bench. I know there is always the issue of how much other clubs charge for young English talent, but as a young forward, to supplement what we have and given the experience he has, does anyone else think it is worth a cheeky enquiry?

02 Jan 2014 14:15:31
Sturridge would be back for VIlla/Stoke, Suarez would be ready for stoke. No more Strikers. We have 2 best with us. let's not waste money on buying another striker who could just score. we need some spark in the middle.

Would absolutely love this to happen, i've followed Berahino for a few years now and have always thought he looked a class above the youth team levels. I really think he is England's next striker, hopefully coupled with Sturridge. However having just signed a new contract and with him playing so well at only 20 years of age he would certainly command a fee of upwards of £10m which is not really a priority for January in terms of positions we need to look at.

I agree that another striker is also needed to push for fourth or more. Yes, SAS (I'm just lazy) are great. But, fatigue, injuries and form take their toll on a squad. Also, BR has to do a better job of using his bench. When the game is won, Suarez, Sturridge and Gerrard should be taken off. It's ridiculous to give minutes to Aspas against City and Chelsea and none in the 4 matches we won comfortably prior to that. A striker needs to be confident to be effective. Yesterday, Aspas looked awful but you have to give a forward every chance to look good before you send him packing and buy another.

02 Jan 2014 13:23:34
Am I the only one that thinks Lloris' tackle on Young wasn't a penalty? I mean fair enough he took him out, there was definite contact and he was nowhere near the ball, but what makes me think its not a pen is the fact the ball was already gone when it happened. Young had already crossed the ball in when he took him out, so its not like he prevented a goal being scored. If Young had knocked it ahead of him and tried to run onto it and Lloris took him out then its a penalty, no question. But the fact Young had already passed the ball on, even though it went straight to a Spurs player, shows he had in a way played the advantage before the foul. If that had fallen to Rooney or Welbeck and ended up in the back of the net this wouldn't even be up for discussion. So for me its borderline and can go either way, but I wouldn't have given a penalty.

People will say if that was Suarez I would be raging but I would understand why its not given. Sure I would think it should be a pen, as would any fan if it was there team, but he wouldn't have had an impact whether the ball ended up in the back of the net or not, and I think that's the way Webb seen it too.

Overall though I think Webb had another game where he made one or two bad decisions (not the Ashley Young penalty appeal). Some people might say its similar to the Suarez appeal last week, and I would agree to an extent. Both kind of off the ball, but the difference is Suarez had a chance of retrieving the ball and was blatantly taken out. Young had already released the ball so couldn't exactly retrieve the ball.

Now that's just my opinion on the matter, some will agree, some will disagree, but at the end of the day its just my view.
Cheers,

Definite peno. He took him out. He could've landed on his feet and scored if Lloris didn't nail him one! It's his reputation that didn't get him that one which is where you have to say fair play howard webb

Ball had already been played, young was never going to get it anyway. It was never a pen in my book. Good call webb

02 Jan 2014 14:17:45
He had more than 15 penalties awarded for absolutly No reason. So suck it and move.
For the First time ever I saw howard Webb being a Referee. all these years he was UTD man.

To the OP - I know what you wean. In the Liverpool Hull game, when it was still 0-0, Sterling had a run on goal, got a shot off, and just after he got his shot off (which was saved), he was cleared out by a Hull defender. Nobody thought this should have been a penalty (including me), but he was taken out similar to Young. Although I don't think it was a penalty on Sterling, and I do think it was a penalty on Young, there's actually not much difference between the two late challenges, apart from one was from a goalkeeper, the other a defender. Someone help me.

If we get penalities once ball has been released, Stirling got clattered after his attempt yesterday. For me, I think young - llori was a pen but not sending off. Young victim of his own diving reputation.

When you see some of the tackles that attackers get after they have put the ball in the net, which are more often than not reckless, it was one of those. The ball had already left his feet and play had gone on. Plus it's Ashley "Daley" young! He's got form and recognised diving credentials! Good shout Webb. I wonder if ol red nose had been on the sideline

As a former keeper I feel this is a very contentious point. I feel each penalty is it own unique circumstance. It really annoys me when a player uses his pace and simply touches the ball first and kicks it out of play and then gets caught by the keeper. At no point was that ball under control. It's like kick a ball for a throw in then running into a defender and claiming obstruction.

I feel that referees should judge whether the ball was truly under the control of the player. Although many would argue this would make the decisions for penalties VERY subjective.

02 Jan 2014 11:55:42
Ed I haven't heard much on the whole Rodgers comment being investigated debacle, anything happen on that front? Also looking forward to Moyes' comments being looked at after yesterday, he actually questioned the referees ability, and although he is right about these refereeing decisions, until there is a change then I'm afraid you just can't say stuff like that. So whatever about Rodgers comments being reviewed, Moyes should definitely pick up a fine. If Moyes' comments aren't even reviewed, serious questions will be asked, especially by those charged by the FA so far this season for their comments. So yeah, that's my opinion for today.
Cheers,
ROI.

{Ed001's Note - he is under investigation, but this is the FA and it could take hours or months for anything to happen.}

02 Jan 2014 10:58:46
we should put a offer of 28 million to sign mata eds do you think it can happen? or no chance ynwa

{Ed001's Note - no chance.}

No chance we would rather pay for four 7 mil player who are either "for the future" but will get sold in a couple years for a loss. Or are crappy squad players that are just there to make the numbers up. BR is a good manager but he is working on a shoe string budget, we are skint and that's the end of it.

02 Jan 2014 14:16:32
Yes one100, because it's a dead cert that Mata wants to be here, Chelsea are prepared to sell to us, and there are no other clubs that might get involved that would be a preferred destination for Mata.

Real life =/= Football Manager.

02 Jan 2014 14:20:00
One100.
You simply doesn't have a clue on our Squad.
Mata is a Gem, quality player. But do we need him?. That will push coutinhio / hendo out of their best position. Do you wanna that to happen?.
We need pace on the flanks. and a proper DM/CM.
And Moreover, You honestly believe Jose would let him come to us?

Actually Harry we could do with Mata. But I don't think Liverpool would would do for him. He will look for some other club away from England but he stays in England maybe Arsenal are my best bet.

You make it sound as if Rodgers has had no money to spend which is not the case. We are cetainly not skint. Although I do agree on buying too many players for the future.

One100, we are certainly not skint but the owners are most certainly balancing the books in an attempt to make the club profitable once again. I for one wholeheartedly support them on this. They are being very creative on the marketing front to generate new revenue.

The £7M superstars of the future is a great strategy but very hard to get right and I'm sure we'll win some and lose others.

And just a final point, FSG have supported BR with some big purchases but for varying reasons the likes of Mihtarian, Costa and Willian didn't materialise.

The future's looking good

02 Jan 2014 09:12:59
Good morning eds,

Question for ed 001 if possible. With suso having a good year so far at almeria do you see him getting more of a chance next year? Does the loan include an option to buy?

A journalist friend of mine said atletico may be interested do you know if this is true?

Thanks eds

Nevada

{Ed001's Note - Atletico showed interest in including him in any deal for Costa, though we never managed to agree one, that shows they had an interest back then. It was one of the sticking points, as we were not keen on letting him go.

I expect Suso to get more of a chance, I can't see much reason for him to stay with us otherwise. He is at the age he needs to play, though I wouldn't be surprised if he made another season long loan move. As far as I am aware there is no option to buy in his current loan move. I very much doubt we would allow one when there was a lot of interest in him, Almeria simply don't have any money, so could never pay as much as he is worth.}

Another loan spell will be the best for him. And when he eventually returns he can go straight into the first team.

02 Jan 2014 18:59:20
Would like to see him loaned within the premiership.

02 Jan 2014 11:04:14
I was watching a replay of last night's match, and could have sworn I was watching the chavs all over again! I mean Hull's away strip looks exactly like the chavs home strip. Anyway I believe Coutinho is coming back to his best - long pass to Agger for the first goal, pass to Aspas, who laid it for Hendo to almost score, and a couple of shots on goal as well.

Aye! If that's him coming back to his best we're in trouble. Two pass completions finding its man all game. One shot on target straight at keeper all others off target. Long ball to Agger? It was a corner!

He looks very pretty with the fancy footwork granted but 90% of the time the footwork culminates in a possession losing pass. Interpreted as a false economy. If he could find the pass and develop his shooting skills he'd be a fantastic player but as things stand I see what he does as generally non productive.

Just watch the Chelsea game for an illustration as to how this gets punished against quality. Chelsea's first goal. Irish Rover found this task difficult but if you press rewind on the remote from the time the ball hits the back of the net to the point where we lose possession, you'll see how dangerous Phils game can be when on the left with our left back pushing high up the pitch.

Free kick I think it was ozone.

And lay off the lad he's young and has loads of potential, maybe that's not good enough for you.

On no we've got another one. Press rewind on your remote. It was a corner.

I'll say it as I see it untill we get perfection big ears. If he gets his passing and shooting right, I'll come on here and sing from the rooftops about him. Managers from winning teams of yesteryear wouldn't have accepted it so why should the paying fans, what was it Shankly said 'if you are first you are first, if you are second you are second', he also said 'football is like a piano, you need eight men to carry the thing and three to play it', well Phils one of those who has to play it, so we need better if we want to be first.

Sorry misquoted 'if you are second you are nothing'

He definitely needs to improve his shooting, both him and Henderson.

Ricky bobby 2006: if you ain't first your last.

sorry my mistake thought it was a free kick. whern are you doing your streak?

I really don't get you ozone, and I give up trying because this isn't banter this is pure hatred for our team and I couldn't be arsed with you and your negativity.
I don't think I have ever seen a positive post about our club from you, its all hate you sprout on here, maybe your mammy didn't give you enough cuddles or something and I really couldn't care, so il just scroll past whenever I see your handle,
Have a super 2014 Ozone.
Peace

So basically Ozone your a sing when your winning type of "supporter"

No problem ears, just make sure you do. Did you always accept mediocracy as a kid? I always played in winning teams at the level I played at and untill we were over the line with a cup or the league, every manager I played under kept us on our toes and pointed out where each and everyone of us could improve our game. Implying I hate a team I spend thousands on each year to follow is just down right childish. It only goes to show you've clearly never engaged personally on a competitive level. Do you think Rodgers exchanges love letters with the players each day in training or do you think he endeavours to improve their game. Have a word with yourself.

Ears, if it's not banter, what is your idea of Banter? Everyone coming on here exchanging love letters about the club? Everyone's got an opinion about their team, the difference of opinion from individuals creates banter. There wouldn't be any banter if we all agreed. Seriously, you, the Irish rover, Bigbadben etc, need to have a word.

I see how you all throw insults at Harry. What Harry posts is his opinion. Some I agree with some I don't but those I don't I'm not going to throw churlish remarks at for the sake of ensuring we have 'peace man'.

No Irishred, I'm a sing at all the games and get behind the team, because I go all the games home and away, then I'll say it as I see it after the game, type of supporter.

I think the thing of it is, Ozone, is you say things like you'll 'sing from the rooftops about him' but I honestly struggle to remember you ever saying anything remotely positive about anything Liverpool related. Fair enough to have a bit of a pop at an underperforming player/manager/team, but you never seem to give any sort of credit when things go well.

Ozone I agree with you and between you and harry and few others you do really contribute to keeping these pages really good inc ynwa adam but your really hard on rodgers and that is simply unfair he is doing a better job than benny, kenny, and hodgson benitez got us to the c.l and won it but his weekly swaps and decisions were horrible to watch get behind your team ffs come on you over do it with the abuse towards your own team we are finally not over paying for players and won't be letting players out without getting well compensated we are in a better situation than we have been in years is that so hard to admit?

Where you happy to accept mediocracy when.Kenny was in charge Ozone? Just asking as I didn't see you on bitching about him. Hipocracy maybe?

Ozone once again spot on lad

A carling cup and FA cup final after dumping Everton in he semis mediocre? Listen, at the end of the day I buy into the traditional way of playing football. That's how I played it and that's how I like to see it being played. It simple, 442 all day long with a boss and a ball player in the middle, two lumps for centre halfs capable of playing Stoke City one week then Real Madrid another. Marry that with the right partnership up front with pace along the flanks including on one side a defensive type full back and on the other an attacking type full back (Phil Neal/ Alan Kennedy) and your not going to go far wrong. Incorporate pass and move in a 442 (the Liverpool way) and your on your way. Kenny implemented this but some of the signings let him down and we all know who they are. You say this style of football under Rodgers is attractive. I disagree, possession football isn't pleasing on the eye. I remember the night we beat Chelsea in the carling cup, it was pass pass, pass and we were in the their half with men in the box, exciting football expecting one thing to happen.

In my opinion, this method of Rodgers with the interchange and swapping formations doesn't necessarily require a 'buy off the shelf' type footballer. In other words, in a 442 you need a fast natural winger who knows nothing but paying on the wing. You cannot ask a natural winger to play any other way except as a winger. The different systems Rodgers enjoys enables him to scout technical young players on the cheap then drill them into the system on the training pitch. Theses players canbe bought on the cheap £7-10 mill market and sits nicely with FSG policy, providing for a cosy relationship between Rodgers and FSG.

Granted, it's clear that Rodgers has got something in terms of bringing on young players, I'll give him that, Flanno, Sterling etc., but I just don't buy into the overriding package, it's not for me, I think it can only go so far but I hope I'm wrong.

{Ed002's Note - You need to register.}

Sorry Ed, forgot, the post starting with 'a carling cup' is me.

Hence, with the above post in mind, Rodgers will not even consider Mata. He's ideal for Utds 442.

Saints boss rounded it up by saying Oscar and Willian made the difference when they came on for Chelsea pointing out they created space. Rodgers systems are all about spaces. If the opposition don't allow us space we are generally non effective. The system worked reasonably well against City, we got the spaces as they wanted to attack, we just didn't quite have the quality to take our chance. Hence the phrase 'not good enough'.

I don't think I have ever said the style of football is attractive. Quite frankly without winning the league for so long I couldn't care less how we play. I want success but unfortunately I don't think that comes in the terms of a Carling Cup final victory and an FA Cup defeat. They are nice but in 2014 success is top 4, Leagues and Champions League. This is the reality. that's why I support Rodgers at the moment, no other reason. If he gets us top 4 then he desrves respect. I also think 442 is outdated but that is your choice. Yet, like I say, they can hoof it from one end onto Carrolls head or play like the old Arsenal and win 1-0. If we end up were we did last season then I will be the first to be calling for his head.

03 Jan 2014 11:16:30
Our league form was dross though Ozone.
I mean genuinely relegation form.
Surely the leagues our bread and butter?
And of you don't like the way footballs evolving, it's not really fair to take that out on Rodgers. How many top teams play 4-4-2 with a lump centre forward?

03 Jan 2014 18:53:33
Judge for yourselves

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1S0uFXR6wJ0

Coutinho's highlights vs Hull. I don't think he was anywhere near his best vs hull. I think what Ozone misses is Coutinho's ability to make space. More often than not he's got himself 5 yards of space and forces a mid/defender to close him down and takes him across the pitch drawing him out of position.
Giving Ozone some credit here, a few passes went awry, I feel this though is because other players around him aren't on the same wavelength, he needs to take some of the pace off his passing as not every one has his control.

02 Jan 2014 08:46:15
So the invincible Kopites win a home game against the mighty Hull City ( the same side that turned you over big style at their place a few weeks back). Based on the reaction I've read you won the League yesterday? Already made top four? No you scored two goals at home. big deal (although the beaver's free kick was a good one tbh). Classic misses from your midfielders however.
EFC? Did they lose? No. They dropped points, yes; although they battered the Stoke goal hitting the woodwork twice with some desperate defending from the Potters in the first half. Remember this is a Stoke side who've already beaten Chelsea and drawn with City at home this season.
So enjoy the day you loveable Reds. I know it means so much to you. Bring on the Derby. COYB.

Haha Daveybyebyebye blues, just remember it was you who came on to this sight the min we dropped out of the top 4, before that I don't recall you been on here well maybe except when the derby was played, which you where probably moaning saying we didn't get this decision we didn't get that, saying we are a poor team blah blah blah!no need to get so uptight just because your back where you belong, the derby should be a cracking game though ynwa

Davey my old mucker. you DO know you're lot are known as the bitters right?

how about concentrating on your own boards (you'll perhaps see them in your local tesco?) rather than come on here and substantiate and build upon that bitters tag?

run along, there's a good boy. and yes indeed, let's bring on the derby. my bet is 3-0. home side.

Oh davey blue boy emerges swinging heymakers ok davey we won't judge it on yesterdays performance so what will we judge it on?league position were ahead of yous, trophies won?i won't even go there goal difference?dear lord. everybody knows Liverpool is the better team between the two.haha we are only replying to your "banter" see liver[pool fans are to classy to be on other pages unless for payback.haha

02 Jan 2014 11:20:39
davey have I missed something have everton won anything coming on 20years now 1995, what's with all this cockyness and total disrespect of your neighbours I know its prob different for me being irish and not really understanding the rivalry between everton as I really would have seen utd as the team we should aspire to be above everton to me are largely irrelavant and if you beat us on the 28th jan bring out your dvd and we qualify for cl everyone is happy.

How good did it feel when a Liverpool loanee scored against you whereas your winger and best on-loan player couldn't hit the barn door, and had to rely on a penalty to snatch a point?!

02 Jan 2014 11:38:06
Why do you say 'Bring on the derby' like Anfields been anything but horrible to you?
If you won here at all in living memory maybe you'd have a shout.
It's a bit like Brighton saying 'Bring on the Etihad' really isn't it?

Also, how's your head now? Apparently quite a few blues got vertigo from their little spell in the top 4, cleared up now apparently though.

Who managed to score no goals against one of the poorest defences in the league(Sunderland) at home .
EVERTON
Instead of bickering about our players(Really suarez = beaver?)
worry when your beloved deulofeu, lukaku, barry will leave u next season obviously u don't have the money to buy them

02 Jan 2014 10:15:07
So you Batterd a point. We will smash them next weekend. Considers yourself Lucky, because you would finish above another RED (UTD) this seaosn.

This from a bitter who like all bitters base there success on how they do compared to Liverpool. Your below us and you'll stay below us. You have won nout for 18 years. It's embarrassing your obsession with Liverpool. Your little brother, move on and go talk on your own little site with the rest of your little bitter fans

Typical Evertonian comes in here convinced that an away draw is better than a home win. Wasn't it a last minute penalty?
Any truth in the rumour that you will be sponsored by Wonga next season as you are a loan club?

Think everyone is just relieved that the last two results were not a sign of what was to come, that our confidence was real enough for us to shake it off and get back to our winning form.

I think you could say that both the Liverpool teams have been playing above expectations this year and I for one wish the city's SECOND team the best of luck.

Why do you keep coming to these ages after every match? Perhaps you should start thinking about how your team is going to cope next season without lukaku and barry carrying them.

Honestly hope either everton or man united get Europa league next seaon as it will ruin you

Ahahhhahahhhaahahhaha

good laugh. really good.

we enjoy being 4th, above u, even for a week like u did against us last week. ahh thank you assaidi. no matter how many woodwork, bins, roofs u hit all that matters is the final score. just like we did against city, all that matters is the final score.

and yeah bring on the derby.

No idea how our blue cousins got the "bitter blues" tag I really don't. Lol

Ah, another brainless troll to add to the list. What is it with EFC fans and their complete lack of class? Even some of the United trolls used to at least have a bit of actual banter.

Nobody on here cares how many times you hit the woodwork.

Nobody on here cares about how good you were.

Nobody on here cares if you 'dropped points'.

That is because nobody on here cares about your club.

If you have no real desire to talk football with genuine banter then crawl back to your own dusty page mate.

JFT 96

JP

Ha ha ha. Makes it much sweeter when you get bitter comments.
Keep it coming.

It baffles me. I would never dream of going on another teams page. Why would you need to?

For me its like me wanting a Big Mac and going to KFC for it. It makes no sense.

{Ed001's Note - unless your Chuck Norris, in which case, when he asks KFC for a Big Mac, he gets a Big Mac.}

Everton, the only PL team with more loans than Greece.You will be in the same state as Greece when the loans are called in!

Whilst I do think we will finish above Everton I don't think either of us are going to finish in the top 4!

1. City
2. Chelsea
3. Arsenal
4. United
5. Liverpool
6. Everton
7. Spurs

Dear WW3 - as I say to my brother in law when he asks about "united" - United who? Rotherham? Sheffield? Colchester? Newcastle? West Ham? States of America? Who cares!

02 Jan 2014 17:24:02
the more teams that get stuck into utd with a bit of belief run at there ageing slow backline crap midfield the better results will be against them, I have looked at there 2nd half of the season and I predict at least 4 more defeats city, us, southampton, everton away, arsenal away, chelsea away.wba away.at least 4 defeats in there imo.

02 Jan 2014 08:15:32
hey eds. are lucas moura, pastore, menez and lavezzi all available?

{Ed002's Note - Try the European pages.}

For the World Cup yes.

02 Jan 2014 07:43:13
Delighted with the three points yesterday. Hopefully, the lads can get a rest and some of the bench and the young ones can do the job versus Oldham. Also hoping for a good transfer window of Salah and a midfielder. I'd be happy with Rakitic, but I just wish we would show interest in Matuidi. Not going to slate Johnson, but maybe BR needs to give him the same talk he gave to Downing and Hendo, tell him he's free to look for another club. We need to see the talent we all know he has, and a little bit of fight wouldn't hurt. This is the best I've felt in years as a Liverpool fan, fellow Kopites. Long may it continue and improve.
Oh, one last thing though, I've tried to avoid saying it because he's wearing a red shirt, but am I the only who thinks Victor Moses needs to FSG-off back to Chelsea. I'm genuinely wondering at times whether Maureen sent him to give the ball away everytime he touches it, have zero end product, foul people unnecessarily and just look generally uninterested. On the other hand, I have time for the Cissokho's, Aspas' etc. because they show effort.

02 Jan 2014 10:19:18
Moses and Cissokho should head back to their respective clubs
Cannot Believe These two staying with us when we pushed Sahin to Dortumand.

Moses I think has an attitude problem, effort is great but it's not enough when going for champions league

02 Jan 2014 06:08:40
Have you pressed rewind on the remote yet Irish Rover?

Please hit the mute button ozone for gods sake, did you do your streak yet?

I've told you ears, at one minute past midnight New Years day, we were 5th, as predicted. My assertion was 'we'll be out of the top 4 by the new year' and we were. Are you and Irish Rover related, as you seem to conveniently read and see what you want to see to suit an argument.

02 Jan 2014 02:48:46
How close r we to signing Salah, Hughes and Bertrand?

{Ed002's Note - Measured how?}

Haha, I like that one Ed.

Inches

It's 794 miles from Basel to Liverpool if that helps ed002. Or about 1 hour 40 minutes by plane. Or about 12 hours by car.

By the combined length of loanees at Everton, if stood in a que.So no time soon then!

02 Jan 2014 01:07:15
hope you had a good new year Eds.
I heard that we were looking at Diego Costa? I think he would make a great addition to our team, with Suarez skilling players like there is no tomorrow, Diego costa would give us even more fire power. I think he would be the one that could help us against the bigger teams like Arsenal, Manchester city, Chelsea.

Somebody could have at least let rooney know. he had a "what team are you on" look on his face

We do not need more firepower mate, we have them in Luis and Daniel. What we need is a CM and a RW (M. Salah please, he is so good).

02 Jan 2014 07:27:44
Jesus Christ. the same costa who turned down us once and has signed a contract with AM.
Moreover they are almost there to beat Barca and Real for the Title.

Absolutely no chance of us getting Diego Costa mate. He would cost in excess of 30 million pounds and there are already a host of top european teams lining up for his services. W could not afford him even with the Champions League money as we need to strengthen in a lot of areas, not just in the striker department.

01 Jan 2014 23:54:21
Just watched MOTD, after seeing the Spuds game it appears Howard Webb has had a move away from old trafford this window.

He is on loan to Chelsea.

02 Jan 2014 07:28:38
That was his best performance from years. Proved what a Refree should be.
If it was 2 years back. UTD would ahve won this with two late penalties

After messing up for Liverpool he had to have a good game all eyes were on him