Liverpool Banter Archive June 02 2013

02 Jun 2013 23:23:52
Hey Macca fully understand that even if you were a player or agent things can never be 100% I've heard stories of transfer day of players on way to new club and get last min call and change mind or better deal etc I like most really great full to u and eds to let us in on a few things many thanks to u and them I for I'm glad it we got all summer to find and look etc could be a lot worse one thing I do know is that I'll be here next season supporting my team I'm no doubt there is 1000s that will be (I just carnt get enough of lfc ) not saurez good luck to him but I'm staying but then again if I get offered 200000 pound a week 8 bed in Spain I'll have to think on it! Ha ha.
Ynwa lfc linc

02 Jun 2013 23:21:24
I think Liverpools biggest problem is we don't keep our players we sell 5 and buy 3 I know it is important to have quality but we also need quantity it's a long season and we need players fighting for their places competitiveness within the team is good, the reason I'm posting this is because I was reading an personic fans post on lfctv he says we should get rid of spearing and Robinson, for one spearing didn't play all to bad in the few games he played, Robinson also played well enough considering his age he is a top talent and a real prospect for the future, spearing might not be the best typical midfielder but he reminds me a lot of masherano, you need someone like that In the midfield an enforcer the guys like coutinho etc will bring creativity. Look at untd Fletcher was a s*** player but got better and played a number of games for a team winning leagues yet we want to sell spearing who IMO is a better prospect that Fletcher was, same for Robinson we can't keep seeking players and thinking we can just replace them let's keep our players and get new ones, all the top teams have a lot of players just within the squad Anderson at united, rosicky at arsenal those players don't play much but they can still be called upon if needed at Liverpool if players aren't performing there's nobody to replace them

03 Jun 2013 06:48:48
Our biggest problem isn't getting rid the likes of spearing. He isn't good enough. It's good we haven't got injury prone players on big wages like rosicky or fat, useless party animals like anderson.

With no European competition this season we have no reason to have squad fillers. We should be looking at quality and once again blooding some of the young players in league cup. As for spearing simply not good enough despite being a hard worker. Robinson would benefit from a loan for first team football.

Cheers
Greggers

Spot on. Also Jay was Bolton player of the season. These same fans would be all over it if the story was LFC looking into young English defensive midfield player who was player of the year only 24. It would be BR sign him please. Well we have him and you (not you) don't want him.

Oh there is an upcoming LB 19yr in France for £8m played 10 games buy him BR rather than our Jack Robbo

02 Jun 2013 22:26:57
not a rumour but a opinion i'd love to be posted, i've read on lfc web site and other related pages over the last yr or so that "suarez is a scouser". If he was he would embrace having a bad press like the rest of us scousers have done for the past 30 + yrs if he wants to run away then fine I jus feel sorry for all the persons who have changed there dogs name from fernando to suarez and now to something else poor dogs

Mate it's a bit different for him. Even though he does bring quite a lot on himself he said he can't do anything with his family without getting hounded

It's been the same old story regarding the British press. they build some one up just to knock them down,, Look back in the history of the great players it has done it to. Best, Bowles, Worthington, etc etc, some that have been "squeeky clean" have still had their share of mud thrown at them. Dalgleish, Keegan, Moore, etc, Admitedly some have brought it on themselves, now even Rush has been drwn ito it.

02 Jun 2013 22:20:27
DO you think BR would be interested in Torres if Suarez goes and would he come back to Liverpool {Ed019's Note - No}

It is possible if chelsea lower their asking price to below 5m

02 Jun 2013 21:21:12
Tom Ince, i'm assuming he willbe staying at Blackpool with his dad in the short term. Am I right in thinking that?

Bloody well hope so.

I'd quite like him to go for big money. As long as it's not us who get fleeced by Blackpool that is! That way we'll have a few million come our way to add to the kitty haha

02 Jun 2013 21:26:35
I see Glen Johnson is having another outstanding game for England! In my opinion he's a liability and by far one of our worst performing players. can one of the Eds please advise if BR is looking to bring in a decent Right Back, and is there any chance that Johnson will go this transfer window?

SHOTHORSE

I've been saying we should sell glen Johnson for ages, he's just not that good and never has been

The eds have cleared this up a few times. His high wages make him difficult to sell and the fact he can play on both sides make him useful, not a priority to replace at the moment.

Dan.

I'd play Johnson right midfield instead of downing and wisdom or Kelly right back

Don't forget your supposed to be a part of the best supporters in the land.
So please try not to slag off our players.

Must be honest & say the lad Jones had a very good game against that gob sh*** nayma, he should learn to play with his feet, not his mouth. young lad has to learn that the minute you open your mouth your foot oes init, you were average nayma & should of been subbed.
Canadian red

I think we are trying to bring in Ilori as the long term replacement for Johnson. even though he is 6'3 Ilori knows how to pass and go forward and he is very quick

We are the best supporters in the land but if a player doesn't measure it there's no reason we can't express our opinions. Johnson has been a liability; I've been to quite a few games this season and his defensive duties are poor at best; although you could argue his attacking part of the role is better. The suggestion to play him right midfield is probably a good shout but we still need to fill the Right Back position. Maybe give Andre Wisdom a crack, he looked impressive when he was given a chance early last season. Failing that we need to bring someone in - a lot of the goals conceded last year were down to Johnson.

SHOTHORSE

02 Jun 2013 21:04:35
Ed 2 who r u {Ed002's Note - Who is anyone really?}

02 Jun 2013 21:55:40
Ed002 is football God

A very snappy, & often annoyed sounding 'football god' then.

Ed 2 is not God and he's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy!

02 Jun 2013 21:31:39
Ed this isn't motd fever but what are the odds of us getting oxlain chamberland? Would be a good addition to our side {Ed052's Note - no chance what so ever}

Isn't motd fever? lol. ok then.

All the same, he does look the business though, doesn't he? Out of a choice between Sterling or Oxlade-Chamberlain, I have to say I would take the Ox every time. Not having a go at Sterling, but the Ox is, in my opinion, a better prospect.

Nick {Ed052's Note - Ox is older, grown more and is more experienced. He would look better. Having said that, I'd probably take Ox}

If that is not MOTD fever I do not know what is!, Lol.

Oh dear god. Atleast admit you have motd fever.

He only scores aganst Brazil, Would he score against Stoke

Sterling all day ox is a poor mans walcott

02 Jun 2013 17:56:06
52 even if we sell Suarez do you see Muriel being a unlikely option? Which clubs are chasing him? {Ed052's Note - search function please}

02 Jun 2013 21:21:54
I for one Macca appreciate everything you try and do for us and if I see your rumours have been updated its the first thing I click on.
Any intelligent football fan knows things can change (e. g:Gerrard to Chelsea/not to Chelsea)so long may your efforts (and the Eds)continue.
In Macca and the Eds we trust!
Cheers

Well said lad.

RedKopite

02 Jun 2013 22:30:27
Could not agree more

02 Jun 2013 23:26:44
Spot on mate!

The Eds and Macca are pretty much always right, the posers who give them grief are either missing a few brain cells or were dropped on their heads too many times at birth!

Keep up the good work guts, fully appreciate it and look forward to any updates you guys can provide.

As to the haters, do one, go on, jog on! We don't need fake fans on here!

Red till I die!

02 Jun 2013 20:59:53
so everyone wants suarez gone but want to replace him with someone with "potentia"l is just stupid to say the least we need to replace his goals with someone proven goalscorer

ACMD RED

Darren Bent?

You love Darren bent don't you chris lol. wouldn't mind him for around the 4M mark.

02 Jun 2013 22:33:17
Christian benteke

SimoLFC

02 Jun 2013 20:52:31
I wish this Fenway group had proper money and would have balls and say to mr goofy, hey you signed a five year deal 7 months ago it was ok then, we were good enough to offer it so your staying and honouring your deal weather it's in the reserves is up to you

As the eds have said before the player has the power like it or not. let's sell him and move on it will be best for the club mate.

We expect players of other clubs to sign for us when we show interest, it is normal for some of our players to covet moves to more competitive clubs when the opportunity arises.

I was dreaming toward the end of the season of a Suarez, Sturridge, Coutinho front 3 next season but with Suarez's ban and his determination to leave my precious football club, he can go as soon as he likes and leave us to replace him as best we can and as quickly as we can, to be fair.

As difficult as it will be to replace his quality it is time we tried to because no player is bigger than LFC and his discipline and the coveting of other football clubs has gone beyond the pale.

02 Jun 2013 20:46:36
Don't post a great deal but visit multiple times a day,
Thought I was getting used to the eds saying RTP or now and again RTFP, but I've never known ought like it, this Suarez situation is unreal.
The amount of people asking the same question over and over again is stupid, either people come on here just to write their own questions and sod every one else because they're so important or they just can't read. 1 poster even some how manages to accuse one of the eds of saying something thousands of people can see he didn't yet the poster still says he did.
Any way if you visits regularly or visit the official LFC website it's quite easy to u d'état and what is happening, for those who can't read here a quick summary.

Suarez comments made it ALMOST certain he wants a move.
LFC as far as I have read or heard have made a not for sale statement. (bump up the price?)
There are upto 5 teams with a known interest, Real Madrid, athletico Madrid, juventus, bayern andan city
No team has made an offer
Suarez has not said where he wants to go.
LFC have made some very quick offers to clubs for aspas and Alberto and toure,
Nothing complete just offers
Benteke been ASKED about, not an offer
If I've missed ought let me know but I think that's it.

So can we now give the eds a break, I'm sure if and when they here anything we will be told by them or LFC.

Not saying don't post because the banter and rumours are great, but all the sake questions are now getting tedious

Thanks for reading

Lifelongred

02 Jun 2013 20:33:33
I for one am "sick and tired" of hearing about Saurez now.
If the guy wants to go, then let him, and honestly who can blame him.
He is very talented and a pleasure to watch, but his "personality" does not suit LFC. we need players who are "level headed" not prone to bouts of madness and lunacy.
Will we miss him, sure!.
But the club is bigger than any individual, and soon we will be singing the praises of a "new star".
LFC for life.

02 Jun 2013 20:46:36
Don't post a great deal but visit multiple times a day,
Thought I was getting used to the eds saying RTP or now and again RTFP, but I've never known ought like it, this Suarez situation is unreal.
The amount of people asking the same question over and over again is stupid, either people come on here just to write their own questions and sod every one else because they're so important or they just can't read. 1 poster even some how manages to accuse one of the eds of saying something thousands of people can see he didn't yet the poster still says he did.
Any way if you visits regularly or visit the official LFC website it's quite easy to u d'état and what is happening, for those who can't read here a quick summary.

Suarez comments made it ALMOST certain he wants a move.
LFC as far as I have read or heard have made a not for sale statement. (bump up the price?)
There are upto 5 teams with a known interest, Real Madrid, athletico Madrid, juventus, bayern andan city
No team has made an offer
Suarez has not said where he wants to go.
LFC have made some very quick offers to clubs for aspas and Alberto and toure,
Nothing complete just offers
Benteke been ASKED about, not an offer
If I've missed ought let me know but I think that's it.

So can we now give the eds a break, I'm sure if and when they here anything we will be told by them or LFC.

Not saying don't post because the banter and rumours are great, but all the sake questions are now getting tedious

Thanks for reading

Lifelongred

02 Jun 2013 20:30:24
Ive read some real tosh on here about Suarez recently from some keyboard morons, so let me add my tuppence worth.

Luis has given LFC 100% commitment on the pitch, and is far and away our best player.

Everyone accepts that he has been unfairly and shabbily treated by the UK press, the FA and even had comments about him from our Prime Minister ( toe rag! ), Some of the comments are so biased it just highlights the slime-balls we have in the UK press.

He has made mistakes of course, but he is not the demon he has been painted by the UK press who clearly have one agenda = sell, sell, sell more papers. He has apologized and accepts that he has done some wrong, but he is not a criminal. He has not deliberately tried to harm anyone in the game, he has not tried to end someones career with a career threatening tackle. He is a highly competitive and skillfull footballer who plays with the enthusiasm of a child both in real matches and also in 5 a side practice games. He is a winner and he can't help it, end of. If I play snakes and ladders with my kids I will do everything I can to win, including the odd sneaky cheat, just to win. Sad eh but real winners in life just can't help it! Winning is everything to them.

Maybe its time for him to move on, I don't know, but if he does he will do so with my full backing and respect. He is one of ours and he has given his best to the club, he is loved by fans and his team mates and I personally wish him well. He has brought magic to our team, a great player and a good family man.

Is it the end without him? Most certainly not! the cash and profit raised from the sale of Suarez, if spent wisely could be the catalyst we have all been looking for. If we could buy 3 or 4 players in a similar mould as Coutinho, then we are surely in with a huge chance of taking the next important steps in our evolution to become champions again.

Suarez is a world class player, and we should be world class fans and thank him for the pleasure and joy of seeing such a talented player on our books, giving 100% to every game. When Ian Rush left it was the end of the world for most reds, but the following season we stormed the league with Barnes, Beardsley etc.

The money generated from his sale could just be exactly what we need, and let's face it, we have done just as well without him in our team as we have when he has played. If he leaves, time for the young guns to step up and become a real team. If he stays, fantastic, we win either way!

ps I hope he stays

Tel 1949

I agree that what luis has been subjected to is quite unfair, and some on the posts on here come out of jealousy and anger at what suarez has said but he regularly adds fuel to the fire and doesn't allow the flame to die out, just look at his recent interviews toying with the fans at first, saying he needs a transfer and criticizing the media and pm, which although is deserved is going to get you nowhere.

Lil Red

Banter aside Tel, I do not think Suarez staying is even an option anymore. Liverpool will be desperate to offload him although they will not show it as it will lower his value. Real Madrid are a very clever and devious club and they will know Liverpool are desperate to sell and they will use that to get Suarez for as cheap as possible. I genuinely believe he will force his way out for a fraction of what he is probably worth.

Disney!

Well said.

He won't stay. His comments pretty much point out that he wants to leave.

As for his behaviour, sure the media has painted him in a bad image, but that image is fully his own making.

I am really disappointed in Suarez. I thought he would have stayed and fought, but he chose to jump ship. I have no respect for his behaviour.

As for life after Suarez, I am all for giving youngsters a chance, but this season, there will be no more excuses.

If Benteke is BR and co. 's idea of a replacement for Suarez, I will be astounded. He ships out Carroll (and rightly so!) and brings in Benteke? What is the logic in that? Sure, people point out that Benteke is better than Carroll, but they are similar players! For all the things BR said when he wanted Carroll out, it makes no sense whatsoever to go for Benteke.

The real AG

Agree with pretty much everything here Tel. Like Fernando, I choose to believe they are being naive and hoping the grass is greener. I will always remember both for the entertainment I got from watching them.

ps If he goes to Madrid, they are supposed to have a friendly against the LA Galaxy around where I live in early August. So I might just get to see him live for once. Win win for me I guess.

Like didi said. he's asking for trouble when he bite ivanovic. he should have learnt how media treat him in evra case. now he wants to go, just go then, and we can see how he repay the club that is always support him.

02 Jun 2013 23:22:47
The only disagreement I have with this is for me, being not from the UK and therefore having no clue or care about what the UK press says about Suarez, I don't think he's nearly so childlike and exuberant but just a tad nasty in his play (several very dubious tackles to his credit) and apparently unable to keep his fool mouth shut (even after being told repeatedly to do so I'd imagine).

He's done the club no favors a number of times and has further put us in an ever-increasing worse position in terms of negotiating power when it comes to getting rid of him. According to Macca's latest, it seems he's also been a tad misleading to senior squad players which goes to further show what I perceive as a complete lack of class on his part. There is a method to leave a club with dignity and respect for the supporters, manager, and owners and he has not taken that at all. In summary, I have no sympathy or love for the player and will be quite glad to see the last of him if nothing else so I don't have to read what personic thing he does next time.

Disney what makes you think that real knowing we are willing to sell will get him any cheaper than we want. Ronny had spent best part of two years begging for a transfer to Madrid and you still fleeced 80m out of them.

Obviously we aren't getting that but my point is that united proved that a desire to sell a player who wants to leave does not necessarily weaken the selling club

02 Jun 2013 20:15:40
Madrid went wrong way about getting Owen, Mcmanaman. And we ALWAYS come off worst in deals with them. IF Suarez HAS to go 50m straight!-OR we approach Barca swop for Fabregas and Villa to do Madrids head in.
50m straight be good buy Michu and Fabregas and have change!

02 Jun 2013 20:01:57
So now it looks like Muriel cannot be targeted as Suarez replacement as he will not get a work permit.
If so the best possible acquisitions to replace Suarez would be Benteke/Rodrigo + Heung Min Son/Atsu + Mikhritiyan.

Think only atsu from that list

Muriel would get a work permit if we spent 15-20m on him. Something to do with how good he is, why the top players never have this problem.

RedKopite

They should try and get a permit for him under the exceptional talent section, he is on the fringes of his national side and clearly has a lot of talent.

Lil Red

02 Jun 2013 19:52:53
Hey eds I know sum are Liverpool fans but how less stressfull we this site be if /when Suarez leaves bet ed 002 dreams ov him going ha ha all the drama on here must be 95% is about him I know you took sum abuse but you never no the might miss it lol just bit of fun Ynwa. Lfc linc.

If/when he goes the vegetables will start posting things like:
Any chance of Suarez returning?

Suarez has unfinished business at LFC, will he take a wage cut to come back?

Suarez bit ronaldos finger off last night, if he leaves Madrid will we put a bid in?

The work of an ed on here is never done.

MIKEY

I genuinely think MIKEY that everyone of those questions will be asked next January

02 Jun 2013 19:50:57
hey eds

when does the transfer window actually open so toure will become an official Liverpool player?

thanks rocky the red {Ed019's Note - July 1 - August 31}

02 Jun 2013 19:46:41
eds, would lamela be a realistic target should suarez depart?hearing whispers that there is interest growing {Ed019's Note - I wouldn't get excited}

02 Jun 2013 19:43:23
Turn over to ITV now for a visual example of how far LFC have come in terms of playing style in such a short amount of time. Or how football was played in the past to how football will be played in the future.

MIKEY

02 Jun 2013 19:35:16
Now everyone's got it in their heads Suarez is leaving, I do like the optimism of some of the names being branded about to possibly replace him. Higuain, Damiao, Sanchez, Muriel. But how likely are these players going to come to Liverpool? I think the only player we could attract is unfortunately Benteke. don't get me wrong, He's a good player, but I can't see him filling Suarez boots and fitting into the System. IMO we either need to find 2 side forwards and play Sturridge as the main man, or find a Suarez type player who can change positions with Sturridge as we did last season a few times. Benteke isn't the kind of player we need, UNLESS we change our system

02 Jun 2013 20:16:45
If we show money and ambition then players will come, champions league or without champions league,

If a team like united who are consistantly winning top honours, but yet need to pay 22+M for a 28-29 year old and 200k per week to convince him to join them, then that just shows what's main attraction for players

Real madrid one of the biggest club in world football yet they need to pay huge amounts of money to get players

Barca one of the best club ever to grace the game in modern footy but yet they need to pay huge amount of money to get players

Chelsea again same reasons despite winning trophys yet they need to spent huge amounts of money to attract players

Monaco, psg, man city etc are/were not a champions league side before but didn't have any problem to attract players by using same methods used by above/big clubs

Even if Liverpool were in champions league, players wouldn't run to play for us, unless we would offer huge amounts of money, footy has really changed, and we as club need to accept/understand that or will continue to struggle, instead of buying 3-4 players every season would be better buying 1-2 top players every season and I'm sure we would be in a much better position now!

02 Jun 2013 19:21:46
Ed's are we interested in any DM at all?
Also if suarez goes do we have a chance to perhaps go for lewandowski? {Ed002's Note - There has been interest shown in the likes of Iturra and Inan both of which are midfield players. Lewandowski, no.}

02 Jun 2013 19:11:29
Ok Luis Suarez is very talented and creates a lot of chances but his finishing was only good last season and he wastes a lot as well by giving the wrong ball. So one season doesn't make a player irreplaceable. I look forward to seeing a new star next year.

Don't kid yourself.

DaveyBootle

It takes 20 players in a squad to achieve not 1.

The stats say if we didn't have Suarez's goals this past season we would have still have finished 7th! OPTAjoe

With out him someone else would have played and every single game would have been utterly different

02 Jun 2013 18:55:20
eds, Out of all the clubs linked with luis. I. e real, juventus. athletico, where can you see being most likiest based on the teams having funding and needing him more then the other teams. Thanks in advance

Terry {Ed002's Note - You need to add Manchester City and Bayern Munich to your list. I really don't want to speculate.}

Don`t be stupid ( Ed002) Why would suarez go to man city when he wants out of england. Either you have got your blondie head on or you`ve been at the happy juice.

Andy Kophead. {Ed002's Note - Where did I say he would move to Manchester City? There seems to be no way to get morons like you to read the posts.}

I'm pretty sure 250k a week would make him like Man City just fine. Although I'm sure he would prefer Spain and Italy over England or Germany.

Ermmm Ed002 Note to terrys post goes as follows - You need to add manchester city and Bayern Munich to your list. So Ed002, what you typed is there in black and white so how does that make me a person? Hmmm.

Andy Kophead. {Ed002's Note - Whichever Ed said football fans must be as dumb as a bunch of rocks was obviously think of you as the head moron. Again, where did I say that Suarez would move to Manchester City? Try and find someone to read this to you very slowly.}

Andy, do you seriously believe Suarez wants out of Liverpool because of the English media, English FA etc etc? Don't be so naive, he wants out of Liverpool because Liverpool are bad

Disney!

02 Jun 2013 19:55:12
ED002 I thought you would have realized by now? Some people can only read two or three words at a time ergo: ED002 + manchester city = ed has said suarez or gerard or rogers are going to City. end of

They can't do full sentences or interpret subtlety's within a whole sentence or two.

Keep up the good work

Tel 1949

Ok Ed002, I will put what you said down to a typo or a very long day. But you did type MANCHESTER CITY. I wonder if anyoneone else noticed?

Andy Kophead. {Ed002's Note - I have told the page for months about the interest from Manchester City but you are the only person who thinks I said he is moving there. However, I will forgive you as you clearly are slow, soft or whatever.}

Yeah I noticed he typed Manchester city, he also typed along with bayern, and that he didn't wish to speculate where he would go.

Seems pretty basic to me, can't c where it mentions him actualy going any where let alone man city

Lifelongred

02 Jun 2013 20:41:05
Disney you are so hilarious my sides are bursting. who cares what you think? If I was you I would worry about trofyless moyes with his stoke-like tactics?

Your views are always biased and I doubt anyone cares about them or even reads them, please stop being a troll!

Peace

02 Jun 2013 20:41:05
Disney you are so hilarious my sides are bursting. who cares what you think? If I was you I would worry about trofyless moyes with his stoke-like tactics?

Your views are always biased and I doubt anyone cares about them or even reads them, please stop being a troll!

Peace

Haha and sidney, your over here all the time instead of your own page because your fans are bad and not got a clue! we are that bad that when we played you at old trafford we had you clinging on with the skin of your teeth, whistling at the ref to blow up for time! we ran you ragged! I know a few united fans that admit we are playing excellent football and if we buy right think we could be in the top four, and are also genuinely worried about what the future holds at old trafford with negative, trophyless moyes as your manager! so concentrate on your own team and leave Liverpool to us.

Ian the red

02 Jun 2013 21:24:54
Suarez is not leaving Liverpool because of media, that's just an excuse, he was expecting some top players to arrive so the club can start pushing for top honours, but that was not to be and his 27 thinks this is the best time to leave.

Read the eds post properly instead of skim reading and you might have noticed he said city are interested. Ed did NOT say Suarez was interested in them, ed made a point of not speculating where Suarez WANTED to go just that the list of teams interested needing updating.

02 Jun 2013 18:51:45
Hey eds just a quick one, do u tink if any club that are lookin for Suarez an don't offer what the club are askin for, do u think they will make him honour his contract, tanx for your time {Ed002's Note - I think I understand your question. I am pretty sure the club are done with him and want rid now. The carbuncle needs to be cut out.}

02 Jun 2013 18:48:59
This Leandro Damiao is clearly highly thought of and Spurs are constantly linked but seem to baulk at the circa £20 million asking price. He is young and thus fits FSG transfer target profile. With Suarez's pending departure and with cash in the bank, do you think we will be linked with him Ed?

Jamie. {Ed002's Note - Search engine please.}

02 Jun 2013 18:18:08
Hi eds, so it's looking more likely Carroll will accept WH offer in the 15m deal. But I read a post a while ago with an ED saying that, the money won't be reinvested back into the squad as we have to pay stuff to Carroll still? After he's gone? I know you don't lik talking money, but would u explaine that to the group for me. Your going to get asked 100 times after we sell him anyway lol

Thanks

Ben {Ed002's Note - I have no idea which Ed told you that.}

Why would we still pay Carroll money when he's been sold, god there's some thick people about on here

The max. we will need to pay carroll would be close to 3 million pounds so it still gives us around 12 million from the Carroll fee to spend.

02 Jun 2013 17:43:29
So Luis pulls a Torres on us. I hope nobody ever calls him a Liverpool legend. I don't give a hoot about all his talk of negative press in England, he was the one causing all the controversy. My opinion: he was using Liverpool as springboard to a bigger club and higher wages.

So long Luis. Have a nice trip. Send Gonzalo Higuain and Xabi Alonso back the other way. True class.

I do agree with you that he's lost his right to become a legend. If he went this season without saying all this I would understand. If he stayed another season he would defo be a legend but he's been an person and lost that now

London red

02 Jun 2013 18:30:42
Get a grip will you! Luis has done the business for us despite being hounded by both the sleazy UK press and the disgraceful FA treatment he has been given.

If he decides to leave ( for whatever reason) he has put 100% into our famous club. He wants success in what is after all a short career. Let him continue to play good football and enjoy his life, and get off his back please. The cash we get from his sale will more than compensate for his loss. With the cash, we can buy 3 top quality players in the mould of Coutinho or similar.
Thanks for the effort Luis, thanks for the memories. if you decide to leave, you leave with my backing and respect. but personally I hope you stay!

Tel 1949

02 Jun 2013 19:11:54
Well said.

That's the thing with Tel you see, a little bit of wisdom and sense as always instead of the shabite spouted in here.

DaveyBootle

Bang on!

Alfie

Best post so far on Luis Suarez so far, he is a winner, that's for sure, yes he seems to go to far at times, but that's because he has fire in his belly, and yes he brings the wrong headlines at times, but let's just remember him for the great goals he scored for us, when he goes, maybe not this transfer window.
redforever

02 Jun 2013 16:53:37
Higuain has congirmed he will leave madrid this summer, so isn't it more suitable if madrid offer higuain and cash swap deal for suarez eds? {Ed002's Note - Have you thought he might want to go elsewhere?}

02 Jun 2013 15:59:54
What's up 52 you grown on me have to say grate work (and 002 001 ect)
Which is why I want to ask who you would rather
Muriel or benteke? {Ed052's Note - I would rather Muriel. Both are good players, with Benteke arguably better and more suited to the league. But Muriel would suit Liverpool far far better. A move for him is very very unlikely}

Is it unlikely really good taught we had a good chance {Ed002's Note - The issue is the work permit. And to be honest, he needs more time to improve.}

Why is it unlikely ed? Is it because he wouldn't want to come to us? Or is it just were not that interested?

London red {Ed002's Note - See above.}

02 Jun 2013 16:59:11
If Suarez is to be sold Liverpool should NOT accept anything under £50M!
We should play hardball and squeeze every pence out of the buying club!
If we get 50m for Suarez we could replace him with 2 quality players!
A ST and a Wing-forward
I doubt we will do a swap+cash deal for Suarez as the likes of Higuain/Benzema/DiMaria would want to go to CL clubs AND have high wages!

Players we have been linked with to be replacements for Suarez are Benteke, Luis Muriel, Henrikh Mkhitaryan.

I think they are great targets!

Benteke is a BEAST! Only 22! People saying he won't suit our style. Why not? He has good skill and dribbling ability. Makes clever runs and can beat defenders!
He would add a new dimension to the attack!

F5.

I don't agree that he makes smart runs. He is an upgrade on carroll but not what I hoped for.
derryred

02 Jun 2013 17:42:11
Muriel is the best choice, with a wide midfielder to replace Downing and maybe another forward

We will have Sturridge, Aspas & Borini for central striker so seems to me best use of Suarez money is the two areas up for grabs in our starting XI. RF and AM. Lamela (or similar) and Eriksen (or similar). Players who will be starters, contribute straight away and who we could sell for 10m more than we buy them for. Will Benteke be worth 32m in 2/3 yrs? Will Muriel be worth 25-28m? Will Lamela be a 30m payer and Erisen 25m+? I rest my case.

02 Jun 2013 16:50:49
Ed 002, I've seen RTP mentioned with Liverpool. Hopefully he's as good as RVP. :-)

Would rather we signed RTFP to be honest mate, seems a much better prospect :)

MIKEY

02 Jun 2013 16:42:02
eds what are your views on benteke as a player, I personally don't think he's that good. {Ed030's Note - I thinks he is a very good player just would not suit our style of play. }

Unless are style changes slightly with suarez going {Ed030's Note - I dont think Suarez leaving will have a effect on Rodgers philosophy although he is a world class player we dont have too change our style of play no player is bigger than the club. }

02 Jun 2013 15:47:38
eds, in the last week, we've heard rumours that a fee for Aspas has been agreed, but in Spain those rumours have been denied, quite simply, my question is, is it true we've had a bid accepted for Aspas? {Ed030's Note - yes it is true. }

02 Jun 2013 15:22:04
not saying either will sign but who would you guys prefer mignolet or begovic {Ed030's Note - I would prefer Mignolet he would be considerably cheaper and better value for money. }

Rather begovic think mignolet flaps a bit {Ed030's Note - yes but Begovic would cost twice as much. }

02 Jun 2013 16:30:21
hi eds

any chance of an update from yous regarding who we have bid for and who we are strongly linked with please?

thanks
john {Ed002's Note - Or you could take the time to read the posts.}

I couldn't be bothered to read through the pages of drivel and people pulling names out of thin air and asking what the chances of signing them are, was hoping for a filtered out version

02 Jun 2013 16:26:20
How fickle are fans on here. Saurez is off, and all of the sudden we have a whole load of 'we're better of without him'.

This is crud, we need to keep him, and move earth to keep him. He will be a genius again next year and all this will be forgotten.

E. g Rooney, Tevez.

We got lucky when we sold Torres in we managed to get Luis, but we were lucky. Its not easy to attract a truley world class player to a club who has't finished anywhere near the CL places for years.

I beleive we genuinely have that oppotunity next year with the like of Coutinho, however every top club needs 'that player' who can win a unlikely win.

Really be honest and ask yourself who can we replace him with.

Love the club not the player, but when you love the club you want the best for it. Luis is the best for the club.

redphil

I agree that we can't buy a player with his ability in the role he plays but I do think 2-3 players of very good quality could more than replace that.

You have to remember that while Suarez in an incredible player just 1 season ago we (and I mean nearly everyone on this site) was saying we need a proven goal scorer and how he was not a natural. I remember reading post after post about it and even on MOTD they were all saying the same.

One year later he is the best player ever?

The fact is that while he world class he can be very greedy and if you took time to think how many passes he didn't make to people who would have had a much better position and chance to put that ball in the net!

The same goes for many world class players that miss one thing and that is to be a little more humble on the ball and not hog it. He is excellent in his ability but I do honestly think he is more trouble than he is worth. he will miss more than the first 6 games next season for certain

He will be wound up constantly by players and rivals to LFC. He will fail at several of these and such tests.

He will then grumble about how he has been treated unfairly and probably because HE IS SO SELF IMPORTANT THAT HE FAILS TO SEE PAST HIMSELF. The club I truly think means very little to him and what is good for it. clearly means zilch!

I have had enough of him. To back him now I truly think you muct put success above all else and for me while LFC being the best again would be lovely I would rather do it with players that showed it the respect it deserves. After all Suarez has not won champions cups and the likes and this club has, several times

Gareth

Couldn't agree more. Although Luis is a bit of a liability, he is a player we need to keep hold of.

What if we don't do so well in our first 6 games of the season? Suarez is the type of player who can get our season back on track. He will come into the team and make us stronger.

Red Lee

Erm he wants to go!! is that any clearer. no we don't want to sell but he wants to go. so he is going.

Erm he wants to go, as did Rooney, as did Tevez.

Its just funny that everyone nows seems to be anti Suarez.

The guys gives everything, and is true quality.

He wants to go. No one is anti-Suarez. He wants to leave the team we support and the club that has supported his stupid behaviour. And we will do very well financially from it so thanks Suarez and good luck at Madrid. I would love it if he stayed but his stupid comments again have got him into trouble. i'd keep him if we could maybe muzzel him on and off the pitch. No player can treat Liverpool Football Club the way he is doing. Go support him at Madrid.

Hard to give everything from the stands whilst banned for being an person.

Quality. yes on the pitch off it he is a mug

02 Jun 2013 13:39:52
hi eds,
max clayton has been mentioned, and says that a deal is imminent. is there any truth to this. cheers

I'm from Sandbach next town along from Crewe and went to both times they have been to Wembley in the two seasons, first time I came on here to say the Powell would go to United as I know his brother, in terms of Clayton people who are Crewe fans say that he is more likely going to join Leeds or a Championship team and not Liverpool.

02 Jun 2013 16:00:55
If the Suarez money plus other sales and budget ( should be � 100 million) can fund the moves for Muriel (18mil), Aspas (8mil), Papa (18mil), Llori (5mil), Erikson (16mil) and a top left back we should be a much stronger squad next season.

I do not think we will get Erikson but if we do I would be well surprised if it was for £16 million all in. I think it would be over £20 with all extras included

gareth

18million is waaaaaay to risky for papadopulas

02 Jun 2013 15:49:32
Soldado is a better option than Muriel, Benteke etc. He's proven 20 goal a season striker playing without champions league on affordable wages with a great work ethic and technically he is superb.
Anyone else agree?
Is their a reason no clubs have really gone for him before EDS?
Thanks,
Puzzled Red

He's also 6 or 7 years older that the other 2

You ain't always the way look at R. V. P

02 Jun 2013 15:43:36
Carroll for Ben Arfa is most defientely on. Straight swap though no money going either way.

Benteke and Eriksen will be signed for a combined fee of £37 million along with this will be Aspas for 7 Million (not happy) and Luis Gustave for 9 million

Boom shake shake shake shake the room

02 Jun 2013 15:08:50
To the poster who said I was hilarious you will see. don't believe me ask ed2. Thx for the replies Ed2.
Regards Tim.

Hilarious!

My sides are splitting!

02 Jun 2013 15:03:14
{ {Ed030's Note - just to let you all know i have made a player profile on Luis Muriel a player who is currently being linked with Liverpool i would greatly appreciate it if you checked it out at http://www.player-profiles.co.uk/luis-muriel.php tanks.

02 Jun 2013 15:02:31
Let's see we signed
Andy Carroll for 35 selling for 15 loss of 20m
Suarez for 22 hopefully get 50 back profit 28m
Profit of 8 million not bad considering the Carroll deal I suppose

02 Jun 2013 14:59:32
Hey Eds, what is your opinion on Henrikh Mhkitaryan? Will he be a good signing in your opinion? I only ever saw him play in the Shaktar -Juve game and he caught my eye even though I was 'scouting' Giovinco. There have been rave reviews for him and he has an exceptional goal scoring record - he bettered Shevchenkos record before his move to Milan -and did that from midfield. I think he could be a real gem if we are in fact looking to get him and he is in his prime now at 24. He's got pace, skills and goals in him. Your thoughts? {Ed030's Note - I think he would be a good signing if we get him at a reasonable price.request a profile on the http://www.player-profiles.co.uk/.

02 Jun 2013 14:53:47
Have to say i'm surprised if it is indeed true we have enquired as to the availability of Benteke, didn't really think he was Rodgers type of player. Don't think its such a bad shout to be honest, he's the type of player we don't possess at present although if we are in the market for a big & powerful centre forward then Jackson Martinez would have my vote everytime. Not sure how this type of arrival would affect Sturridge as I think he enjoyed being the main man when Suarez was banned but squad strength is paramount over player's indivdual egos I guess. By the way any news on Sturridge?
Ciario80 {Ed030's Note - no news yet keep checking the Lfc site for updates.

02 Jun 2013 14:33:35
Whats the deal with M Marin? he seems to play very few games but am not sure at all what the plan with him is. I still think he is or has potential when playing to be a very good player. I realise LFC have not shown interst but thought i'd ask

Thanks
Gareth {Ed030's Note - he is one of a few players who are finding themselves of the fringes at Chelsea he will most probably end up back in Germany.

02 Jun 2013 15:04:39
What about a cheeky bid for Mirallas

I'm no expert on negotiations but I believe Everton will be more inclined to do business if we are polite.

We could have 70-100m to spend and you suggest Mirallas?

02 Jun 2013 14:21:21
Hi Ed's, is there any chance we could move for Hulk to replace Suarez?

Levon-69 {Ed002's Note - You have to quit these "any chance" questions - it is hopeless. 100s of different players were mentioned yester and Liverpool has shown no interest in any of them. If there is no interest being shown the answer will always be no.}

I do feel sorry for you eds, at times people just pick random players and expect you to know exactly where their going.

02 Jun 2013 14:06:16
Any news on Atsu? If he really is £3m 21 and linked to us can you see this happening or have we moved onto higher level players/prices due to a possible £40m+ cash injection? Thanks {Ed002's Note - RTP.}

He will cost much more than £3m and he is definitely worth a place in our squad. Not a starter though.

02 Jun 2013 13:48:58
Wigans James MCcarthy is wanted by Liverpool along with Paul Pogba from Juventus where Liverpool will make a bid for him if Suarez is sold

Would love McCarthy he's going to be the best all-round midfielder in the premiership in a couple of years IMO
JJ

Watch McCarthy more closely. He's OK but not even as good as Allen & Henderson. In his position Schneiderlin is a much better bet for us.

02 Jun 2013 13:31:57
All these rumours saying Higuain, Benzema, Gomez etc. We've not got a chance of any of tide 3 and frankly I wouldn't want any of those to replace Suarez. I would go for Jackson Martinez from Porto every time, his link up at with Sturridge and Coutinho would be immense

02 Jun 2013 13:17:27
I think Luis Alberto is similar to Adorjan

02 Jun 2013 13:53:08
That is a ridicoulos post! Complete bogus!

02 Jun 2013 12:57:58
Suarez going. I don't think the club are very suprised. In fact I think they have handled this very well. If FSG or Rodgers had hinted they wanted to sell him for a large sum of money 99% of fans would have gone mental. Instead Suarez has done the hard work for them, coming out with all the media rubbish and wanting a move.
Maybe the replacement (s) are already lined up.

02 Jun 2013 11:25:20
Hi eds can I ask your personal opinion on victor Fischer, luis Muriel, Christian Ericsson, David villa, 3 of europes upcoming talents and a proven goal scorer what is the chances of all 4 coming with downing and suarez out the other way, I personally believe that would give us the extra attacking options we would need without suarez for the first season, and what do u think of John Flanagan being the next jamie carragher thanks james {Ed002's Note - All of these players have been dealt with already and you can, with the correct spelling easily find lots of information. Flanagan and Kelly both look decent shots for the future.}

I've watched Flanagan a lot over the past two seasons in youth team and I don't rate him at all, his positioning is wrong and gets lost easily, he loses his head to much as well! Yes he is only young but I'm sure he won't make it at Liverpool fc

Agree flanno looks rubbish. Think Glen Johnson, Andre Wisdom and Ryan McLaughlin for RB across all comps. Martin Kelly should be used as CB next to Agger when fit with Toure and Skrtel as the back ups. Ilori can come in to replace Coates. LB is an area we need to Strengthen. Like Robinson just not ready as regular yet. But question if Enrique is better as left mid or wing back if we play 3 CBs.

Flanagan not good enough and Kelly will only ever be as important to s as O'Shea was to United. We over rate some of our youngsters.

02 Jun 2013 12:54:08
If/When Suarez goes please just use the money on proper signings. Jesus Navas and Eriksen {Ed019's Note - I'm sure we will use the money properly - just not on Navas}

02 Jun 2013 12:51:08
Can anyone tell me why almost everyone wants Benteke? Just because he has 1 good season? Ferguson told ones that when someone has a second good season in a row than you should buy him when he has quality. Caroll had a good first 6 month at Newcastle and suddenly we paid 35 milion for him. That's ridiculous.

I say, buy quality that has proven itself already or buy someone that has real potential to be a topplayer in the near future. I realy still cannot believe that LFC paid 35 million for an average player like Andy Caroll.

I still think that the club should sell Suarez for atleast 50 million. He's in the same range as Falcao, Cavani, Bale etc etc.
For that money try and buy Jackson Martinez and Tello. You've got one proven topstrikers and one with the potential.

With the money from the sale of Andy Caroll the club should try to sign Jesus Navas.

The club has given Rodgers 25 million te spend. I say let's buy Papadopoulos and Aspas from it.

With the sales of Coats, Downing, Skrtel we should get an decent attacking midfielder

Navas is not a great player. He is well overated

Speedy

One thing I don't understand about your post is you say that you don't think benteke would be a good but but Jackson Martinez would be? I like Martinez too but they are very similar players in both style of play and physical attributes. Personally I would say benteke is the better buy as he does a great job of bringing the players around him into the game

02 Jun 2013 12:34:38
Any chance of Hyppia doing us a favour and selling us Kiebling?

02 Jun 2013 13:17:31
Kiesling? Hope Not, I think we can d� much better, Aspas is much better

02 Jun 2013 12:23:10
Eds, heard Jack Robinson is going on loan, is this true and if so, who are we getting as cover for LB?

What's happening with Brad Jones too? {Ed019's Note - We are scouting full backs so we may but one. Jones is staying as back up}

02 Jun 2013 12:41:32
I heard Jetro Williems ed?

Also Brad Jones should be back up to a back up. Danny Ward is already a better ffs

Thanks Ed. Is it just a LB we're chasing or fullbacks period?

02 Jun 2013 11:40:38
If we never signed Carroll there would be no doubt about Benteke. They are completely different. Only similarities are they are tall and can dominate a defender but Benteke brings so much more as he showed scoring twice for Belgium who play nice attacking football not hoofball. Carroll was lazy and had a terrible attitude Benteke is the opposite. Much more composed stronger and quicker too. I think its silly to worry about a player who scored for fun in Belgium now in the perm and for his country because we signed a waste of space 2 years ago. Really hope he signs as he can change a game on his own and Rodgers said he wants game changers

02 Jun 2013 11:35:41
mornin eds, do you know of or is there any chance that were lookin at bringing torres back? thanks in advance. {Ed030's Note - no definitely not we are looking to the future not the past.

02 Jun 2013 11:36:15
Negredo any good?

02 Jun 2013 12:23:35
Scored 4 against valencia last night! We were linked before, he said I dream to play there (anfield) one of the eds said he was considered too slow! Left footed, so is aspas! Can't see us going for him! Pricetag £15 -20 million!

He played well last night but to be honest he's only good enough for where we are at the moment- and we want to climb the table, not stay in 7th. Also certainly would not fit the 'Rodgers system'.

RedKopite

02 Jun 2013 11:14:43
worried about the possibility of Benteke as a replacement for Suarez!

I mean seriously, this guy's just another Andy Carroll,

Looks like he has it all ; strength, height, pace, power etc

He's another one hit wonder. There's a reason no other big club has looked to buy him yet!

There are far better options available for similar price too

Calm down. First of all he's better than Carroll and second it's only an enquiry. Doesn't mean anything necessarily come of it

02 Jun 2013 11:37:31
Arsenal
Tottenham
Atletico Madrid
Inter Milan

All have an intrest in Benteke so your whole logic is flawed!

Nothing like Carroll other than perhaps height. Have you even seen Benteke play besides when we played Villa this year? He is pretty technically sound. Andy is not. He would be a great addition if we could get a good price, but I agree that there are other options. Amz is on point, it's just an enquiry anyway.

He's right Liverpool do have this tendency to go after one season wonders. Carroll, henderson, Rodgers etc.

Is that you again waro? Tut tut

02 Jun 2013 10:42:50
Ed2, your assessment/information re sponsorship/investment was pretty close. But FSG are looking to sell a percentage of the club probably a majority so they can pocket some cash themselves. An announcement will be made soon expect big big things to happen within lfc. Whether you want a sugar daddy or not its probably gona happen.
Regards Tim {Ed002's Note - Or not as the case may be.}

02 Jun 2013 11:51:57
Hilarious!

Nonsense. Sponsorship maybe Wouldn't expect FSG to sell a majority stake though.

Don't want a sugar daddy.

The investment is gona happen Ed2, why deny it you obviously know as do I. Investors have been talking to FSG for months. But not only for sponsorship but for a percentile of the club.
Regards Tim. {Ed002's Note - Where do you think the money goes if someone buys a majority share in the club? On players? On the stadium? To pay off debts?}

The money will go in FSGs pocket if a majority share is acquired. That option is definitely on the table. FSG need the investment badly or we can kiss redevelopment goodbye they are struggling financially to. We are getting and need investment soon. Henrys radio interview last wk was a load of balls we cannot be self sustainable we are losing money and we are looking to redevelop and he says we can finane redevelopment ourselves? Henry is talking the biggest load of balls and I am sick of this charade. Tell me I'm lying Ed2?
Regards Tim. {Ed002's Note - You might not be lying Tim but you far from understand football, or business, finance. I understand that you crave a sugar daddy even though Liverpool remain year-in and year-out one of the highest spending clubs in the world. All Henry has done in recent interviews is to provide assurances to Red Sox fans that they will not be impacted by spending at Liverpool.}

02 Jun 2013 10:54:12
Hey eds, since valencia missed out on champions league, do you think we may look at soldado to replace suarez assuming he leaves? Thanks {Ed030's Note - Maybe but me probably had our chance last summer but we did not bid.

Soldado = Quality. There's a proper striker who I'd spend 20m on in a heartbeat. 82 goals in 141 games over the last three seasons, 30 in 46 this season. Now that's goalscoring.

RedKopite

02 Jun 2013 10:40:35
Hearing some bleatings coming out that Rogers has lined up Benteke if, and only if Suarez leaves. Conditional payment up to a total maximum of £18mill.

Personally I wouldn't spend that on a striker with one good year under his belt, but maybe that's why the payments are conditional.

I know the Eds don't like talking money, but could you at least confirm the interest, and that it is only IF Suarez leaves.

Cheers, great work guys

RedDawn {Ed052's Note - weve told you weve enquired}

Benteke is awesome, and would do a fantastic job at Liverpool I think. The only problem is the way in which he forced a move through to Villa. I have my concerns about players who conduct themselves in such a way (Suarez is a perfect example). We need players like Agger who are loyalty personified, the problem is it seems in the modern game there aren't many left.

JFT 96

JP

Totally agree

Also loyal players don't move very often if at all so the chance of getting these players are slim JP.
We should get our loyal players from the academy, they seem to stay longer if they are good enough.

MIKEY

Ed just seen your posts reading that Benteke would not suit our style.
I am divided on that to be honest. Everytime I have seen him play he has looked comfortable running with the ball and picking out passes. And seriously don't agree with your reply to one saying rather we should keep Carroll. Carroll is just not good at anything except heading. He was a really poor buy and that's that.

Anyway any idea how much Villa are looking for Benteke?
I reckon anywhere between 15-20 million would be a decent deal but I reckon they would want closer to 25 million. {Ed052's Note - ive never saI'd we should keep Carroll. I cannot see where Benteke would fit with DS who has to play through the middle too. 15-20m I'd say}

02 Jun 2013 10:37:18
Benteke? Yeah why not.
He's a fantastic striker, a few are worried he may not fit into our system. But I have to disagree.
Playing ahead of a playmaker like coutinho or someone else we bring in will give us a more direct attacking threat and some much needed muscle up front.
Maybe not quite a plan B but certainly someone a little bit different.
To me he seems to have some of the better attributes of a Carroll type player ie: strong, tall, good in the air (Carroll isn't, but is supposed to be) but unlike Carroll he can play with the ball at his feet and play well. His positioning and shooting is also one he'll of a lot better.
£20m is the figure being shouted about, it's a bit of a risk but one I would probably take at 17-18m, or throw in downing as part of the deal.
I just hope he isn't a one season wonder, he has age on his side so hopefully not.

MIKEY

I agree Mikey. Don't compare him to carroll at all though. More like peter crouch, as he can play with his feet. Its crouch with muscle and pace. i'd spend 20m after his goal return in a villa side.

02 Jun 2013 09:58:20
Ed052 how can you want higuain as a replacement for suarez? He's not good enough and so so slow

Neil {Ed052's Note - I think, along with some money, it would be a good deal for us. It wont happen though as Hig wouldn't come}

Ed022 gives glowing praise to Higuain and Soldado in the player-profiles! You should check them out.
In Buck we trust.

I'd say he would come.

Not big enough for him now!

02 Jun 2013 12:11:47
Yeah mate! I'm definately with Ed052 on this. Higuain would be an AMAZING No9 for us. If No7 (can't bear to type his name again) leaves in other direction of course.

02 Jun 2013 10:19:18
What about the possibility of Torres return?

Hes not Mourinho favourite type player and may well be available for around 13m.
Hes still a finisher and what with Gerrards supplies I think he could regain his confidence.
At a low price he may be a bargain.

***simon***

I'd take him for 10m if he dropped his wages to 45 a week

I'd take him for 100k if he's happy to polish Aggers boots

He's lost that yard of pace. Downhill from here on for nando

Wont happen but personally I still think he has real class and is worth £15 -20 million, if he did not have history with us.

Still think he is underated now though

gareth

Torres finished the season with 26 goals in all comps for Chelsea that's 4 less than Suarez and he only played a handful of games in the prem! Not a bad return for someone who's lost it!

02 Jun 2013 10:06:24
Anybody else remember the last time we bought a lump of a centre forward who had one good season I epl to replace someone?
Nothing against Benteke but he won't come cheap, loads of players have been one season wonders, far too early!

I was thinking the same myself.

Jelavic comes to mind too albeit at a much smaller transfer fee, but I'm sure many of my fellow posters have many more examples.

I suppose we have to trust the managers instinct, which to be fair, looks quite good.

DaveyBootle

02 Jun 2013 05:58:53
Hey Eds,
Great site! First time posting here, but I wanted to enquire about something and I hoped Eds would be able to answer my question. I know Ed002 mentioned we made an enquiry into Christian Benteke, but why hasn't there been more pursuit of someone like Benteke or Leandro Damiao who are both big, physical, have good pace, and are good in the air, but are also great with the ball at their feet? They could be that physical presence we've been missing and they have the pace and technical ability to be a great asset in Roger's system (unlike Carroll). Could one of the Eds maybe shed some light on this issue. Thanks.
-SurferRed {Ed002's Note - There has been an enquiry for Benteke so I don't understand your point. Damiao has been done to death in terms of Marseille, Napoli, Spurs etc. - I can't say why Liverpool have not shown more interest.}

02 Jun 2013 09:48:30
Please get in Benteke, Eriksen and Aubamayang. these 3 boys would make us forget about Luis very quickly

Really? None of them are world class like Suarez. Maybe some people need to remember what we have before he is gone.

02 Jun 2013 05:14:09
ed 2, if suarez leaves which players could be his direct replacement and other improved targets due to improved funds {Ed002's Note - I really don't want to speculate. If there is interest shown and we know about it I will say.}

02 Jun 2013 09:23:36
Eds now that Valencia have failed to qualify for the CL next season, and with their curre t financial difficulties. Should we not be looking at some of their players in light of their financial difficulties.

They have a number of top players in their ranks such as

Roberto Soldado.
Ever Banega.
Sergio Canales.

All three of these players would be quality additions to our team. I'd also like to see us look at Gomez of Bayern. Surely surplus at Munich of Lewendowski signs.

Jonesred

Hmmm those players might leave in search of European football. so why come to LFC?

Try reading the first sentence of the OP's post. CL every year is only guaranteed to a few big teams who can't buy every player out there.

He did say to ease there financial issues

LAVERS

02 Jun 2013 10:28:39
In search of better wages? Because Valencia has to sell?
Because you kukuuuu if you think CL is everything for players and you are more kukuuuuu if you think Valencia pay high wages! Half their players are in the media going on and on about what an honour to come to Liverpool and play in the PL, at least 4 valencia players have talked up moves to Liverpool in the last 3-4 months! Stop being a BS troll, its getting useless and boring!

02 Jun 2013 09:13:11
Please could you just clear something up Eds: Are we in the Europa League next year? Most on here seem to have presumed we're not but I thought we had the best disciplinery record in the league or something sp we qualified?

RedKopite {Ed052's Note - we are NOT in Europe next year}

So what did happen to the disciplinary record thing that was meant to get us into the Europa League?

RedKopite {Ed002's Note - England was miles from getting a place.}

Thanks eds!

02 Jun 2013 09:06:20
eds do you believe benteke would be a good signing because I struggle to see how he would fit into our system {Ed052's Note - so do I mate. I think he is a decent player, but not great on the floor. One thing going for him is he is super strong}

I agree completely. I do think he is a good player but for many reasons I can't see him at LFC and feel his style of play is not in keeping with ours. I do not think his movement would suit our more creative players through balls either.

If he was a holding midfielder then I think he would be perfect. I think we need a strong defensive midfielder more than anything

Gareth

He's quick, agile, strong as an ox, links play well (that back-heel assist at Anfield was sublime) and is a superb finisher. He'll be able to keep up with our play in the final third (Carroll would not IMO), so I don't see the problem? I don't see it happening though. Villa will be letting Bent go this summer, so they will be asking silly money for him.

JF

Benteke can play with his back to goal turn & go at goal or hold play up, height makes him dangerous on set pieces, pace to stretch defences that want to play a high line. Carroll has slow feet but Benteke has quick feet. More of a Drogba than a Carroll. Has Carroll ever had a 20+ goals in 1 season??? I could be wrong b/c I'm not a Man United fan but didn't Man United replace Cantona with Dwight Yorke. The point is just how they never found the next Cantona, we may not find another Suarez. that's fine. Who is to say that the suarez money is covering Benteke. Maybe its the Carroll money & a pinch off the Suarez sale! How do you know we won't use the Suarez money to buy Muriel?

People are asking for a plan b we inquire about Benteke and there's a problem now haha

02 Jun 2013 08:47:16
If we get £50mil for Suarez and £15mil for AC we should target IMO;

Christian Eriksen £15mil
Morgan Scneiderlin £7mil
Toby Alderwierald £8mil
Christian Benteke £22mil
Dries Mertens £10mil
Maarten Stekelenburg £3mil

Redjav

6 wages

Morgan for £7m?

At least £10m out. (Apart from the fact he has just signed a new contract at Saints and has no interest in leaving, especially to a club that he, and his team mates, have already shown can be so easily taken to the cleaners!-Remember the goal he scored when he just coasted past Gerrard and then your defence as if they were not there?)

Like your ambition, but suspect you will have a really difficult season coming up. Alex Pearce yes, Morgan no!

02 Jun 2013 10:56:35
hahah
Is this serious? Look at this saints troll! Makes you laugh beyond limits!

Thanks troll, I appreciate the jokes! Your team will fight relegation again next season! Only reason you beat some big teams is that they underestimated your carp team and paid for it! Next season that won't happen again! Good luck staying up next year you clown! Football supporters have become clueless and disturbingly stupid lately! Run along child, go play in the sandbox!

Manners and respect for our fellow human beings has gone. I despair for humanity.

02 Jun 2013 13:50:26
Despair for humanity? Did you just grow up? Life's a bitch and we are all nothing but sheep, some is just more brain washed than others! I gave up on humanity 20 years ago! Respect? No one coming on here to disrespect our club desreves respect back! People are so disrespectful to Liverpool they deserve a kick up the arse not respect! This is banter and don't complain when you support a newly promoted club who could have been relegated and comeon here sounding like a smartass when you are just deluded! Any player from saints is not nearly good enough for Liverpool and Liverpool have much higher ambition than southampton players! You need a reality check!

02 Jun 2013 03:38:12
Would most deffinately prefer The Beast Incarnation Benteke rather than any real madrid player

Benteke like suarez can win a match single handedly,

Would be a fantastic choice and we'd even have some money left over to buy a quality winger or maybe even mkhitaryan or eriksen also with the rest of FSG funds hopefullu get in papadopoulos

Fingers crossed BRand the scouting team do some nifty work and put a smile on our faces

02 Jun 2013 02:51:45
I love kenny Dalglish, but he passed on the opportunity to sign Jesus navas and Juan mata during his spell. He opted for downing and Henderson, this was partly due to the owners youth and english policy. {Ed052's Note - we dont have youth and English policy mate}

What is it with this youth and english policy we were supposed to have? Are you just going to ignore the signings of suarez, enrique and coates?
derryred

02 Jun 2013 08:15:10
Reports are coming in from Italy this morning that Juventus President Andrea Agnelli is preparing to table a bid well in excess of 50 million Euros for the services of Luis Suarez.

02 Jun 2013 08:10:02
Players to replace Suarez in order of preference:
1. Christian Eriksen 12-15m
2. Henrik Mkyitarian 12-15m
Plus
1. Benzema 20-25m
2. Higuian 15-22m
3. Muriel 12-17m

02 Jun 2013 07:49:51
Whats the possibility of £30m plus Higuain for Suarez? {Ed052's Note - very unlikely}

30 million plus suarez? Not going to happen. Higuain is also very highly rated. You would be lucky to swap and get £10 million

Gareth

I'd expect 25 million with Higuain definitely.

Jonesred

02 Jun 2013 07:36:15
Gonzalo Higuain, comes out and talks up Juve, timing is too perfect.
Real will reach an agreement that stops Juve bidding for Suarez, as they have shown an interest in him in the past.

02 Jun 2013 07:15:37
Hey Eds
Has Liverpool looked or inquired about Henrik Mkhitarian?

Thanks, Zach {Ed052's Note - no}

He has been looked at this season - numerous times

02 Jun 2013 03:07:22
ed002 if this happened in the afternoon how come u not mentioned in the afternoon i'm saying this in a nice way {Ed002's Note - You have to be some sort of idiot.}

BOOM! Owned Ed002 :) love it!

02 Jun 2013 07:10:30
Just wondering what other people's thoughts are on the Benteke interest?
Liverpool already have a player in that mould in the form of Andy Carroll, would you not agree eds? Fair enough he's a bit more rugged but surely we shouldn't be spending money on a role we already have?

Anfield Andy {Ed052's Note - I wouldn't want Benteke at all}

02 Jun 2013 04:12:37
My sources tell me that Suarez will only go for 50 million pounds cash, take it or leave it deal.

I like that stance cobblers to em. you want? You pay! Try posting a name next time so I know with whom I'm agreeing.

Cash? So, s big suitcase full of £100 bills?

Erik Oslo

02 Jun 2013 03:51:43
I've read about money + Higuain for Suarez. Would love to see it, but deals like seem to hardly ever happen. Is it hard to complete a deal like that?

02 Jun 2013 01:22:21
The sooner Suarez leaves the better, he is a class player but we have proved we are just as good/if not better without him. the signings BR has made have given us the ability to create and score goals from all over the park and I personally cannot wait to see who else he signs. I've total faith he is leading the club to a bright future and we WILL start winning trophies on a regular basis with him in charge

I agree trust BR to bring in quality with whatever funds he gets (like he already has)and next season will be very interesting and exciting. Let the manager manage and the supporters support. I for one can't wait!
In Buck Rodgers we trust :)
(Not sure bout Benteke though :s)

Yep. Totally agree. Rodgers is the man we've been waiting for. Should've went for him instead of kenny last season

02 Jun 2013 01:10:49
Lol

Italian source CalcioMercato claim that Napoli will look to land Liverpool pair Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel with Rafa Benitez’s new side being linked with €15m (£13m) bid for the Anfield duo.

that will get you skrtel only gona need another 26m for agger.

02 Jun 2013 02:04:56
I'm guilty I still love suarez lol, any1 else think it hurt more when torres left tho.

Waltonred

02 Jun 2013 08:42:26
count me too

As long as Suarez doesn't go to another PL club and we get 40m+ for him. good luck to the nutter

When torres left was sadder for sure (for me). He has taken a lot of stick from many for it too but he did play with us for years and I do believe he was told moves would be made to make the team stronger and to push for trophies

Gareth

No chance, Torres at least handed in a transfer request to let the club know he wanted to go. Something that Suarez should have done too.

02 Jun 2013 00:49:05
According to the Mirror, Brendan Rodgers will use part of the Suarez funds to bring in Christian Benteke. {Ed002's Note - An enquiry has been made.}

Personally do not see it and also while he is playing well I do not think it a great move at all

Gareth

01 Jun 2013 18:59:23
Hi eds.
Ed1 said many teams in la liga are looking to sell. Are Valencia one of these teams?
If they're in a position to sell then I'd certainly take a look at some of their players. E. g. Fegouli RM, Rami CB, Banega CM, Parejo CM, and above all Soldado ST.

Any one of these players would improve us IMO.
Just my thoughts
Thanks

If they spend some of the cash on Benteke, I will be mollified, ready-made star in my modest opinion.

02 Jun 2013 00:24:46
Hi Ed.

You mentioned Liverpool have enquired about Benteke, do you think it is a realistic transfer & what is your opinion of him?

Cheers. {Ed002's Note - Much will depend on any price that Aston Villa want to put on him.}

Thanks Ed.

Do you rate him as a player?

Good replacement for Suarez?

Cheers. {Ed002's Note - I don't rate players Josh.}

I think Benteke is on a different planet than Carroll personally. I know players of a similar shape (i. e. Ba) have declined but he looks a more complete package.

I think he is top drawer for the right team but Liverpool are not the right team. He has Carroll written all over him!

People are only comparing Benteke to Carroll because of his stature. He is a completely different type of player. Yes, he's big and powerful, but he's also incredibly tricky to play against. He finds space time and time again between defenders, cuts inside, picks out team mates and has a lethal shot on him. He's a brilliant forward and whoever buys him is going to inherit a player who will only get better, bear in mind he's only 22/23. I think he could do a wonderful job at Liverpool (although I think the odds on us signing Benteke are slim to none).

JFT 96

JP