Liverpool Banter Archive June 02 2016

 

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02 Jun 2016 22:02:57
I saw the posts from the idiots, especially one saying we should just listen to Macca. As you guys know i have the pleasure in doing the podcasts with 001 and I've even spoken to 002. You guys ( myself included ) are ridiculously lucky to have 002. Believe me, I can't stress how much the guy is the business. So I dedicate this thread to 002, I suggest we all get on our knees and thank him for the information he brings forth, in which he really doesn't have too, given how busy his actual work is. Any good messages should be put here, for the real readers that know what he's all about and not the trolls.

Believable20 Unbelievable8

02 Jun 2016 22:07:12
There's not a whole lot the true readers of the site can say mate. The trolls are going to troll. We (the grateful ones) are going to have it spoiled by the lemons. Hope it calms down soon. Thanks for the info Eds.


02 Jun 2016 22:10:43
We all know the eds are the bizz, for the most part we all appreciate what the eds tell us and the site itself.
We just get the occasional crank that ruins it for everyone.


02 Jun 2016 22:12:24
Well said Benny and totally agree!


02 Jun 2016 22:13:16
Benny, you've just solved the long ongoing puzzle of the gender of Ed002. Lot's of posters will now be distraught, and some a bit embarrassed after declaring their love for female Ed002.


{Ed091's Note - Ive seen benny call 002 a her also, its all part of the fun, no one knows!

02 Jun 2016 22:13:46
I agree compmetely and thank 002 for all information. I even search his comments to filter and get more quickly to latest good info.
Most of all I enjoy the sharp, sometimes border answers to jackass questions.
Thanks ed002, hope you don't get bored any time soon and keep providing with reliable information to calm fan-anxiety.


02 Jun 2016 22:15:59
Some of us are appreciative of all of the Eds, not just Ed02. We would be lost without them and, like most of us on here, we look numerous times during the day. There will always be others who disagree or dispute what the Eds tell us. Do we care what these people think? Please keep the info coming and also a big thanks to Macca whenever he appears on here. I think I speak for the majority on this.


02 Jun 2016 22:16:34
Same as always Ed002, keep up the great work. You really do make this site worth visiting and add so much value with your knowledge. Big thanks!


02 Jun 2016 22:19:55
I'm sure that there are lots of very regular readers of this site who like me very rarely post. I read this site every day, generally several times each day because of the high quality information that the Eds provide, especially Ed01 and Ed02. Unfortunately there are plenty of idiots here too; I just ignore their rubbish and wait for the next quality tidbit!

Keep up the good work guys and my sincere thanks for all your efforts.


02 Jun 2016 22:24:09
I say we offer to sacrifice the trolls to bring Ed002 back.


02 Jun 2016 22:30:51
Well done and thanks ed's. Been reading since 2007.


02 Jun 2016 22:40:20
Trolls are trolls. They increase in number usually this time of the year unfortunately.

Over the past 8 years or so that Ed002 has been here, I am sure he has noticed that there are a good number of people who appreciate the information and intelligence he brings to this site. I would like to apologize to Ed002 on behalf of the few idiots who have been insensitive and would very much appreciate it if he comes back and continues to post.


02 Jun 2016 22:43:05
This site is nothing without the Eds. Macca's contribution is always valued too but the sheer amount of time the Eds put in is something else, particularly Ed001 and Ed002. Been checking this site daily (hourly! ) since 08/ 09 but rarely post - just feel privileged to get such top quality insight. Happy to start paying a subscription whenever the time comes - should hopefully rid us of the trolls. Thanks as always for all your hard work, it's massively appreciated.


02 Jun 2016 22:46:51
Ed002 is my heroine 😍

In all seriousness I know stuff I would never have access to and I understand processes that I wouldn't be aware of and all that is directly from Ed002. The silent majority appreciate the work the eds do, sadly the minority can spoil it.


02 Jun 2016 22:53:47
Isn't there an appreciation society for Ed002? I think that says it all. She is well thought of by anyone with any intellect. Maybe the trolls are Chelsea supporters - it's always Chelsea's fault.


02 Jun 2016 22:56:03
I'd like to dedicate my first post to Ed002, I'm sure there are many more like me who don't post for whatever reason but love the site above all other Liverpool sites on the internet and who venerate Ed002 for her/ his opinion and information especially considering that we give nothing back. I totally understand the reasons for the withdrawal and the majority will now have to suffer as a result of the actions of a minority.


02 Jun 2016 22:57:52
Spot on mate, I haven't been here for as long as the majority of you lot but been around long enough to appreciate it all.


02 Jun 2016 23:02:44
Its because ed002 is bit more blunt and people can hack it. I find it funny myself and always gives great descriptions even with things he don't like talking about e. g money. thanks for hardwork.


02 Jun 2016 23:06:33
Damn idiot trolls! What is stupid about this is Ed002 informed us of the Couthino situation months ago and I remember then people still disagreeing! Now Macca is back (love Macca too btw) and people wanna dismiss Ed002?! Like what, are you crazy?

If it wasn't for her (yes, I'm still holding on to the slight possibility that Ed002 is female) we would not know so many details and background info! From transfer dealings, to Rodgers losing his job regardless of the Everton result, Suarez threatening to sue LFC, FFFP, FSG insider details, possible Euro break away league, Ancellotti not being able to commit to us or anyone else until this summer due to other issues. I could go on for hours with the info I've seen on here since I joined in 2010/ 11!

If anyone checks out the other sites you may remember that the Arsenal and Man U page was boycotted by Ed002 due to idiots and now we may have the same here.

I don't want Sly sports and newspaper lies and spin.

I personally want to say thank you to all the Eds and Macca! Ed002, please don't go!

The genuine posters, new and old appreciate what you do for us, all for free on top of it!


02 Jun 2016 23:09:42
What's going on?
I might not agree with all that the eds say, but they're worth reading always. Ed2 especially for the transfer stuff.
Back to the bat cave. See you in 2020 maybe.


02 Jun 2016 23:15:23
Ed002 is sound. Knows his stuff and gives us some really interesting and good facts, called a number of deals and frankly I've learnt a lot from his insight.


02 Jun 2016 23:22:02
Well said Benny.


02 Jun 2016 23:23:34
Totally agreed. We are not worthy of Ed002. Puts in fantastic work, giving quick responses to our questions. Thank you for it all Ed002, we really appreciate it all.


02 Jun 2016 23:24:54
Ed002 you are very much appreciated. I come on this site mainly to read your posts and I absolutely love your sense of humour. Please don't let the negative douchebags get you down. You have more support than you realize.


02 Jun 2016 23:25:43
sometimes reading a completely nonsense post reminds us how lucky we are to have the Eds. Imagine having to go back to sites where it's 100% nonsense (much like a Roy after match summary! ) .

The Eds share their knowledge and sarcasm. What more can we really want on a daily basis?


02 Jun 2016 23:41:59
How can anybody disrespect 002, not only is he spot on constantly, he's a Chelsea fan who still gives Liverpool fans all the info, 002 knows football and when I say football I mean transfers, players, finances and how it works in general. I have became a much brighter football fan due to 002. Would just like to say thank you and it is hugely appreciated by most.


02 Jun 2016 23:46:55
Seeing ed002s absolutely brilliant replies fills me with joy some times. very quick witted he is and for some one to dedicate their own spare time to a site and give us the privilege of thier knowledge they all should be commended. However the amount of idiots and arm chair fans on this site will never truly understand the role of an editor of a major site like this. The amount of abuse these lads/ gals get on a regular basis would be an eye opener to a lot of you people show some respect and be grateful you have the privilege to accesses this site and it's contents.


02 Jun 2016 23:47:25
what have I missed? ed002 left? I hope not.


03 Jun 2016 00:35:28
i only read the posts here because of the information i'm able to glean from all the eds. they are invaluable.


03 Jun 2016 05:16:28
i do not post regularly, but reads daily, let me tell that the Eds are the bizz, have lots of respect for them, and Ed02, he/ she is the MAN irrespective of gender.


03 Jun 2016 08:41:06
I think we should chip in and buy ed002 a bottle of champers and something nice from La Senza, oh and a bunch of flowers too. Then send her off with benny to schmooze her till she comes round.

I have been here long enough to know that without ed002 and 001 on these pages giving thier insights this site will collapse.

I won't beg ed002 to come back because he does not respond to such displays, but i hope this message gets through to her when i say you are deeply respected by the non gilfnards and whatever u decide to do i will respect that and wish you all the best in your endeavours.


02 Jun 2016 23:11:53
OP is Spot on. Iv had run ins with Ed002 in the past over differing points of view, but Iv never once not respected the work he does for this site. The info he brings is top notch and is always appreciated by real football fans. Don't let the haters get you down!


03 Jun 2016 07:03:30
Well said Benny, I read this site many times during the day every day! It's mainly due to ED002. Stunned to see comments that he's off. Hope it's not true.


02 Jun 2016 21:57:44
A few weeks ago everyone came together and assisted Ed001 - for a website that you only get to know people by their posts this was pretty amazing.

We've had Ed002 give us insights to players we may be interested in - or who would be better options etc.

I'm probably like most others and regardless of posting check this site numerous times a day; hoping for something new or clarification on something that may be in the media but has no substance; normally the Eds we tell us how it is.

I've got to say the criticism of Henderson (whose been carrying an injury for all but a month of this season) ; slagging off of Coutinho (who the Eds said he wanted to leave - let's be honest would you stay at a side averaging 7 or 8th in the league) as overrated etc. is ridiculous.

We was once the most knowledgeable fans; now it seems we are only most knowledgeable about who the latest brightest thing is on youtube!

We get linked (even if we are not interested in the players) and you get comments about how we're buying too many young players and we haven't even made bids for them.

Seriously some need to just chill out and wait - see what the team is next season and who ever it is get behind them - if not go support another team if you can't accept it.

Lastly thanks to all the Ed's you make this site the best on the net for knowing what is going on - it is much appreciated by some of us!

Believable11 Unbelievable5

03 Jun 2016 00:12:59
Hear hear Ben 👍.


03 Jun 2016 06:47:50
Eds 2 is by far the best eds on here. blunt maybe but he doesn't throw insults around unless warranted and his information is spot on. People really need 2 grow up.


03 Jun 2016 01:55:36
This is quite simply the best site on the net for Liverpool supporters and the reason is the Eds and all their knowledge.

Ignore the trolls and vegetables please Ed002.


{Ed002's Note - I appreciate what everyone is saying but I have explained the issue.}

02 Jun 2016 21:29:37
And another one from me.

England playing better after intro of Lallana?

Saying that- not beating 10 men yet.

Oops, take that back!

Believable4 Unbelievable3

02 Jun 2016 21:07:49
So, whilst we were all slating Roy for not making changes and stroking his chin during his LFC tenure, he was in fact setting a trend.

Yes, our very own Roy started the "hide what your saying behind your hand in case anyone overhears you" trend.

Top-one Roy.

Believable3 Unbelievable5

02 Jun 2016 22:49:02
Wasn't that zoo?

They di the lip reading segment at the end so didn't players adopt the cover our moves so that can't happen.


02 Jun 2016 21:22:27
Is there a Euro page Ed001? Or no demand for it?


{Ed001's Note - yes mate euro-soccer.co.uk

02 Jun 2016 20:52:07
Eds reds I really hope couts stays. If he doesn't, and if its true, that psg are the club who want him we've been linked, rightly I don't know, with lucas moura. Not sure what the difference in price they would be . Maybe a deal there? We need quality wide. Just a thought. But would prefer couts to stay.

Believable2 Unbelievable5

02 Jun 2016 22:02:05
If he wants CL then maybe he could go to Leicester?


02 Jun 2016 20:32:59
I just wanna say thank you to the eds for providing some nice info every now and then, not takin to much piss from plebs, and ading in some funny jokes from time to time. But i'm not going to be reading this site anymore, its embarrising to see all this people claiming to be fans just talking smack and harrasing the players. Very few people seems to actually know the game at all, and are just using the site to be trolls. Sadly this page has become more toxic than fun so peace out.

Believable10 Unbelievable5

02 Jun 2016 20:57:28
I actually agree. If the Eds didn't post such excellent insights and accurate information this site wouldn't be worth the stress.

The quality of the posts has declined significantly. Slagging off our captain was the final straw for me. I'm just here now for Ed001, 002, 007, 091, Square Tomato and Macca as they provide info you can't get elsewhere. Ed033 deserves a special mention as he makes it all possible. To be fair to the Eds as well, they have to put up with the drivel we do and what I can only assume is far worse drivel which doesn't even get posted. So hats off to them for not only putting up with it, but continuing to provide us with such wonderful info free of charge.


02 Jun 2016 21:30:17
Im only here for Ed002's info. I hope he can see sense as to not punish us all just because there are some morons on this site. Ban them, dump their posts but don't be with holding great insight because of a few arseholes.


02 Jun 2016 22:24:24
In my experience, the best way to treat Trolls is to starve them of the attention and reaction that they desire.

If I were the Eds I would decrease the number of posts sent through from these idiots and as such negate their ability to cause such hysteria and conflict on the pages. Their posts won't be missed and soon they'll stop bothering.

The sooner the better really so we can't start getting this page back to what it once was.


02 Jun 2016 22:43:06
I would say ignore the trolls Eds. Just don't post their replies, and I am sure I speak for the majority on this website when I say that we would love for Ed002 to be back.


02 Jun 2016 23:02:29
it is naïve to think you can come on to a free site and avoid the trolls. Can we stop being so precious and just go about our business and not let gutless hate merchants win?


03 Jun 2016 00:45:36
hey guys what have i missed? MKS I value your opinion and you sound pi$$ed when your normally so level headed, what the hell has been going on?


02 Jun 2016 20:24:59
How can Coutinho be over rated, to be apparently linked with the likes of RM Barcelona and PSG if you believed the rumours tells you exactly how highly rated he is by Europe's elite . I do agree with some of our readers that he does blow hot and cold sometimes but if we have any aspirations of being a top 4 club again then we have to stop selling our most creative players goals win games and if we do not have anyone with the flair and imagination that couts brings then I'm afraid it's going to be another one of these 5 year plans . You have to keep your best players plain and simple but I do believe Klopp is the man to bring the good times back to Anfield but it's going to take at least 2 yrs and a lot of hard graft.

Believable4 Unbelievable5

02 Jun 2016 21:33:10
Very good authority denis suarez off to Barcelona so were does Coutiniho fit in with the front 3 already unles were getting luis back.


02 Jun 2016 19:44:58
Eds sorry if you have replied but I've looked through and can't see it. Are Psg in for Coutinho?

Believable2 Unbelievable5

02 Jun 2016 19:34:28
Im genuinely shocked at the comments aimed at Coutinho on here its embarrassing he's one of our best players and yet people are slating him for supposedly wanting to leave, no player is and will ever be bigger than our club!

Believable10 Unbelievable6

02 Jun 2016 20:44:03
I agree BigD that he is one of our best players, even THE best player we have and that is part of the issue. Gerrard was our best player, Suarez for a few seasons was our best player, going way back King Kenny was our best player for years. The point being that Coutinho does change games, he is our best player but does he do it enough on a regular basis such as the players i have mentioned? Maybe he is our best player for a team that finished 8th in the league. Maybe we need our best player to have more of a regular impact thru out the season?


02 Jun 2016 22:39:31
As far as I'm concerned if he wants to leave and klopp can't convince him then sell him to the highest bidder. It's a no brained, best for all involved thanks and goodbye.


02 Jun 2016 22:45:52
I understand what you are saying Irish, but Coutinho is 23 and improving every season, and surely that consistency will come if we build the team around him and as he continues to improve?

If Coutinho goes, who do you think that we can attract that will be at a same level to Coutinho, but with potential to improve like him, and not by breaking the bank or on enormous wages?

Liverpool needs to stop selling their best players.


02 Jun 2016 19:30:42
Fanobip, the common denominator with those 3 players is that they WANTED to leave the club, they weren't pushed out they WANTED to leave. get it.

Believable2 Unbelievable4

02 Jun 2016 20:58:49
What i would say to Fanobip is that all the players he had mentioned on a previous post is that if the Really wanted to leave their clubs then they would be gone but you have mentioned players at successful clubs, playing in the Champions League, winning trophies. Hardly the same as good players wanting to leave Liverpool Fc to better themselves. Lfc need to take the leap to competing at the top again and winning trophies, then you will see our good players wanting to stay.


02 Jun 2016 19:06:39
Liverpool football club is dying. Our best Players wanting to leave every season. It's a sad sad time.
never thought I'd say this, but were a mid table premier league club with a bang average team, and only a Arab/ Roman abramovic input of money could get us back to the top places.
The fans have carried us at times. It's all we have to shout about now and a top manager.
The players on the other hand, terrible! And the odd good one is looking for a way out.

Believable7 Unbelievable12

02 Jun 2016 19:22:52
Look on the bright side mate! Wait and see what happens next season under Klopp before making any pessimistic comments.


02 Jun 2016 21:47:41
Agree with da red man, but we need to keep old of better players and bring in better squad players . remove the junk out . but this is the problem with no European footie . top players want to be in those competitions and they aren't loyal anymore . But let's see what happens .


02 Jun 2016 22:45:01
As it stands we are a mid table table, but I have every faith in klopp and thank our owners for what they've done to date. Have they made mistakes, yes but have they learnt, yes. The club is a business but success on and off the field goes hand in hand. If we're sold to wealthier owners I just hope there in it for the long hall. Things could be a lot worse!


03 Jun 2016 11:20:13
We have spend a shed loads of money in past three years. From Carroll to Benteke, That's nearly £300 million on transfer fees. We have been the highest spenders on Agent fees For consecutive years.
We had money no question about it. Players doesn't want to come to us which is completely a different equation.


02 Jun 2016 18:49:20
Ed001 confirmed Coutinho has asked to leave for CL football and that the club is trying to change his mind. I highly doubt he will be here next year.

He wants out. Forget this argument about how good he is, whether he his over rated, his inconsistency, poor conversion rate, anonymous in two finals, being arguably our best player, or scoring screamers.

If he wants out, I want him out for that reason alone. Klopp plays a style if football which demands commitment, work rate and team spirit. I don't want anyone on the pitch who doesn't want to be there.

So this raging debate is irrelevant and pointless. Fact is, Coutinho wants to leave. I just hope we get a good fee and find a good replacement. Replacement doesn't even have to cost a bomb. Coutinho only cost £8m himself remember.

Look at yourselves though, turning on each other over a player who doesn't even want to play for Liverpool. Praying the club forces him to stay in some desperate attempt to cling on to him. It is like watching two best mates fight over a girl who doesn't want to be with either of them.

Klopp lost much better players at Dortmund and always replaced them. Gundogan for Sahin, Mkhitaryan for Kagawa, Aubameyang for Lewandowski etc. I'm sure he can work his magic to replace Coutinho.

Why is it always doom and gloom on here. Just to wade in on the pointless argument. The main players I hope we keep are Henderson, Lucas and Firmino. Hendo and Firmino because they epitomise Klopps style of work ethic combined with quality, and Lucas because he for me is Mr Liverpool with his dedication and leadership qualities.

Believable14 Unbelievable5

02 Jun 2016 18:58:23
There's a difference between holding him ransom and convincing him to stay by helping him see there's potentially something special happening at the club.

Personally hope he stays.


02 Jun 2016 19:04:56
The ball is clearly in couts hands. if he wants to go let him. In my opinion he is brilliant on his day and then bad in other games. As long as klopp gets a good replacement in I'd be happy.
Have faith in klopp whatever happens.


02 Jun 2016 19:08:45
You need to see the bigger picture MKS.
Never in my 40 plus years of following Liverpool have I known the fanbase so divided as they have been under FSG's watch.
Think about that.
The Souness issue, Hicks and Gilett, Roy Hodgson, all these things were worse for the club, but the fans were pretty together on how to deal with it.

F$G have utterly divided the club, I don't know what they're trying to do really because it goes from one thing to another, year on year.


02 Jun 2016 19:08:49
Everything you said was right, until you mentioned Henderson. Sell Phil, keep Henderson?
Yeah because he's done anything for us at all?


02 Jun 2016 19:11:33
Heisenberg, I hope he changes his mind as well. The key word there being "he".

If the club has to convince him with money or cleverly spun words then I'm still not interested. Deep down, he'll still have one eye on the exit door and will just lose focus as soon as the going gets tough.

HE has to want to stay. Not us or the club. The fact he has already told the club he wants out to me suggests his mind is made up. It's not like he has told international team mates or friends. He has called a meeting with the club, sat down, and said he wants out. That is a calculated decision, not something said flippantly to a mate at a barbecue.

If his head's turned, we need to let him go. Hate to praise Chelsea, but one thing they are a cut above the rest of the league in is being willing to sell players who want to leave.


02 Jun 2016 19:17:01
There's been lots of really good players down the years, who've never played in the Champions League.
But these days, some players seem to think they've got a divine right to play Champions League football.
If Coutinho thinks the grass is greener elsewhere, and no longer wants to play for Liverpool. we should sell him quickly. before pre season.
We' ll make a tidy profit and can bring in someone who'll hopefully, be proud to wear the Red shirt of LFC under Jurgen Klopp.
Coutinho is definately replaceable .


02 Jun 2016 19:40:50
If Couts wants to leave then let him go, players that have left in the recent past haven't always shined at their chosen club, Sterling, Torres spring to mind. Get decent money for him (apparently PSG and Barcelona are in for him? ) and move on, bring the next player in. The club is always bigger than the player. I think he had made his feeling known a while a go tbh, his form tapered off towards the back end of the season. The big question is who replaces him, Firmino, Lallana and Henderson all capable of playing the 10 role or bring someone in we have been linked to Higuain, Pjanic, not like for like replacements I know.


02 Jun 2016 19:50:01
I hope personally he does stay, as i hate see us sell our better players. However as said, has to come from him, he has to want to stay and be a Liverpool player. Hopefully he doesn't forget that without Liverpool he would not be where he is today as a player. If he does go we can fetch a nice return on him. He is a bit like Sterling, is filled with potential, and can come up with a bit of magic, but he has never done it on a consistent basis, and it frustrates me because he can do it, he is a player you can't leave out of the team sadly, but what is even sadder is when he is on the pitch, he can be doing much better.

Like many of out stars that have asked to leave over the years, not many have gone on to be bigger players than what they were then at Liverpool bar Suarez, definitely in the last 10 years. The grass isn't greener and he should be wary of this. I would think very few teams will be able help his progression as a player. Look at Sterling, has he really progressed as a player? He may have won the league cup at our expense but he hasn't reached the heights of 13/ 14 season. Coutinho should use Sterling and also Torres as examples, sure they have won trophies but will they be happy at the end of the career with medals but with the knowledge that they never truely lived up to their potential? I think he will get better under Klopp and we will eventually win trophies, look what he did tous this season, we have progressud under him with little or no time to really implement his ideas. Hopefully Coutinho can make the best decision for him as a player. He can always move later in his career, but i feel if he did go to one of the powerhouses he will be a flop at current rate of his play and consistency.


02 Jun 2016 20:10:18
I wouldn't be going anywhere with Klopp in charge.


02 Jun 2016 20:37:42
I wouldn't say Fsg have divided the club at all. They are crap at picking managers is what i would say which has a severe effect on everything else at the club. Buying the right players being the obvious one. What divides the club for me is the mass of information that us fans have at our disposal and every man and his dog having an opinion.


02 Jun 2016 22:49:09
There is nothing yet to suggest that Coutinho cannot be persuaded to stay. Suarez wanted to leave for Arsenal/ Juventus, Gerrard wanted to go to Chelsea, and ended up staying and helping Liverpool. I hope LFC can convince Coutinho to stay for a little while longer yet.


03 Jun 2016 11:26:47
How could someone say Coutinho has been Bad? That's a terrible argument. He has had poor performance and that highlights our Results ( Either we loose or draw ) which shows what an important player he is.

According to Ed02, PSG had watched forming who is on fine form, Would someone rule out his exit next summer? From Torres to Coutinho we have been loosing one main player every summer. This has to stop.


02 Jun 2016 18:31:30
If coutinho does go I would like us to get SOFIANE BOUFAL he looks a real player who actual take part in games.

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02 Jun 2016 18:16:33
If the offer comes in we should snap there hand off, he is no luis Suarez, someone said he's been our best player for last 2years, which says a lot more about the players we've had in the last 2years, as I said if the offer comes in we should take it, he' too inconsistent to be a really world class player,2cup finals and anonymous in both which says it all.

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02 Jun 2016 18:36:13
Let's see if FSG take the money and run, another big transfer to right the books and then sell up?
Or is this another of their moves to turn LFC in to The Poor Man's Arsenal?
Financial stability alright, thanks to the telly money and selling off our best players. Pah.


02 Jun 2016 18:44:16
I actually have pretty good opinion of LFC supporter. The one thing I never understand is how the moment someone says in the media that someone is interested in one of our players there is always some genius here that is quick to jump urge the club to take the money.

No club has ever has progressed by selling its best players year after year. We sold Suarez, then Sterling and now Coutinho? Too inconsistent? which of our players was more consistent than him? Milner maybe? or Maybe Lallana? or Ibe? and who exactly will you bring instead that is more consistent? Messi? Ronaldo? or maybe Aguero is waiting to join us? And what exactly will you do with the money? Give it to the fans? Give it to charity? What did we do with the Suarez money? what did we do with the Sterling money? We struggle to bring half quality players because they want to play in the CL or in a team with a decent chance to win trophies so you want to sell the one player we have who is top class?

Absolute joke.


02 Jun 2016 19:03:12
Faniobip, I'd say we do alright in General. Sold Torres and got Suarez. Sold Sterling and got Firmino. Admittedly we stuffed up with the Suarez money signing Mario.

But the last 3 times we've sold our best players, we've replaced them with better players on 2 occasions. And I have more faith in Klopp than I had in Comolli or Rodgers.


02 Jun 2016 20:16:04
Tis right MK. There will always be a quality replacement with the right management team. Which we have got so let's see how this summer pans out.

I can't wait for next season think the squad will look a lot stronger, fitter and well organised.


02 Jun 2016 20:59:45
We do alright? yet results speak otherwise. Our squad keeps getting more and more average. Too many half glass full supporters. I wouldn't mind selling coutinho for a large amount of money if we used the money correctly, which we never do.


02 Jun 2016 22:50:23
You think Coutinho is inconsistent but yet in another post say that we should replace him with Boufal? Which planet are you from lad?


02 Jun 2016 17:11:47
Hello Editors and Posters.
There is a genuine case where Coutinho would be off in the summer and the club not getting in Gotze ( Which looks like the replacement lined up ) . Gotze is holding on for something beyond our control and if the player has a fine Euros, Bayern might think differently, there would be more high profile suitors for the player and we might miss out on the player.

I have no issues with not signing Gotze, But my worries are our other targets are slowly drifting away. The interested wingers ( Rafa Silva, Praet etc ) seems heading elsewhere as the same case with Midfielders ( Zielinski, Dahoud )
I don't work behind the scenes for the accurate reason for this but if it's all about the money then I wouldn't ever blame the owners as they have pumped more than enough in the past and we have none to blame other than ourself.

The window hasn't opened yet and we need to be patient, But then again I am a supporter and our club has been famous of missing the targets and ending up buying Balotelli's and Carroll's.

In between someone has pissed off Ed02 which is a real shame, Without him we have no clue on where we are heading. If not him half of the posters here wouldn't have heard about Praet or Dahoud. Your informations are valued and highly appreciated mate.

Let's hope we keep Coutinho and build a strong team around him. Lose him and we are in another never ending transition.

Looking forward to hear from Ed02 on any new targets or interests by the club.

Thanks.

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02 Jun 2016 17:41:55
I would take 50 mill for Courts, he is a good player but is not consistent enough.

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02 Jun 2016 17:57:32
Who can we get with 50 million to rival couts' ability? He's young and improving every year, is settled and no one is guarenteed to have the impact he does, even if it's supposedly inconsistent. I don't think he's any more inconsistent than most of our players. He scored in big games too.


02 Jun 2016 17:25:21
Have the Eds confirmed Coutinhos has asked to leave or have a missed a post sonewhere?

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02 Jun 2016 17:46:06
No they haven't and I highly doubt he's asked to leave - lfc source saying rumours totally untrue.


02 Jun 2016 17:59:28
He asked to leave earlier in the season, if we didn't qualify for CL which we haven't so I'm sure nothing would have changed. He seems like an ambitious player otherwise he wouldn't have moved to us from inter or would have waited for a 'bigger club' to come get him but he came here when we where midtable and wanted to play football. He has constantly improved and is our best player without a doubt, the fact that an inconsistent player like he is, is our best player speaks volumes about how average our team is tbh but he is still a baller and will be world class, and is at times. He wants to leave to win trophies which we aren't doing at the moment. This is constantly happening so no suprise, the sad thing is that we do nothing about it, or we always make it hard for ourselves to achieve success and keep these players. If we sell coutinho, we will most likely get a youngster with potential that costs a lot and think this is a clever way of getting top 4. I trust klopp but I don't trust our recruitment at all. Still early days but history speaks.


02 Jun 2016 18:15:10
Both the Editors has said about this speculation some time back which is slowly becoming a reality.


02 Jun 2016 20:37:07
Klopp has got us to 2 finals in 6 months so if he's after trophies why not stick with us and klopp we're defo on the right track.


02 Jun 2016 21:07:26
Shanklys son, 'we are on the right track' is hypothetical, you can make certain promises to a player but after a while it just becomes a lie. We got to two cup finals that we didn't win, that's just a fact. He still hasn't won anything since he's been here, that's a fact. Sticking around and find out, when the players we seem to be targeting aren't exactly going to improve our first team drastically isn't really going to make him think 'yeah I'll stick around one more season and maybe we will win something, because we are showing so much intent'. Look at the clubs around you and see who they are targeting and then ask yourself is klop actually going to be able to replicate Dortmund with Liverpool. The Dortmund and Liverpool situations are totally different, I actually find it laughable that people compare them, or compare us with Leicester or use phrases like 'Rome wasn't built in a day'. Fans needs to wake up and smell the damn coffee.


02 Jun 2016 16:43:07
I can't believe Goetze is waiting for a sweetener. Don't they have Canderel over in Germany?

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02 Jun 2016 17:38:54
It's obviously not 'sweet enough' for little Mario. 😃.


02 Jun 2016 14:53:48
Couthinio has asked to leave
I m not a huge fan to be honest and Gotze was always set to replace him

He is very overrated and the only thing you can gautante with him is he consistently gives the ball away and when you play the high press and your cover is Moreno your in trouble he's constantly very casual with the ball and for a klopp player has no pace and can't track back, he's got talent but i can imagine Firminiho is more suited to how klopp plans to play I also find he never looks up when he has the ball and certainly struggles playing a simple pass, I no he's young but Erikson and the Leicester Marez and West Ham player can't remember his name have been much more consistent.

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02 Jun 2016 15:04:38
Coutinho no pace?


02 Jun 2016 15:11:31
Payet for West Ham?

Anyway, if he goes, he goes. We need to have a team that's not reliant on individuals. Kloppo will replace him without too much fuss.


02 Jun 2016 16:19:09
I do think Coutinho is not consistent enough to be considered a top level player at the moment but as someone pointed out recently: he's a 23 year old South American flair player in the most physically demanding top league in Europe, if he did play to his maximum ability very week he'd be worth upwards of £80million and seen as a Balon D'Or contender.


02 Jun 2016 16:24:38
I don't believe a word of the OP because he simply doesn't even know how Coutinho plays! He doesn't look up for a pass, overrated? Which player have you been watching?


02 Jun 2016 17:25:58
Hes over rated, goes missing in games, can't pass well. 1 wonder goal in 50 attempts or 1 good pass every now and again is bound to come off, he's a good player but far too in consistent, i'd be suprised if anyone offers a sum that would be worth us selling . Not fussed either way . he's not Gerrard or Suarez.


02 Jun 2016 17:47:03
What a load of sh*t.

Ed002 is exactly right, fake fans who are quick to turn on our own players whenever they can - in this case, as soon as a rumour of them leaving bubbles to the surface.

You're the kind of fickle can that really gets on my nerves. He's one of our better players, well liked in the squad, trains well and by all accounts is a good lad.

Suddenly is a slow to react, predictable player with no pace who doesn't track back?! Give me a break.


02 Jun 2016 18:03:28
Incredible how quickly opinion on here changes. A few bad games and suddenly he should be sold. Embarrassing to say the least.


02 Jun 2016 18:17:32
Remeber the goal v united in europa league? If that wasnt world class then wtf is.


02 Jun 2016 18:23:19
Sure. Earlier in the week it was Hendo. From today onwards for the next few days it's Coutinho. Let's create an 11 week cycle of slagging our players until they're all gone (one week per player) . (If the detractors had seen Coutinho play for Brazil on Sunday, they would have liked the MOTM display he put on. It's for him and Klopp to figure out why he can't do the same consistently for LFC. Selling him is not the answer. )


02 Jun 2016 18:32:22
Stop hating just like Ron said if he leaves he leaves even tho he's an integral part of the team and tbf our only half decent player personally I trust klopp but our important players leaving after every season is a huge concern to me.


02 Jun 2016 14:20:39
Have FSG realised that they cannot make the club genuine contenders?
The level of player we are being linked with suggests so. We can assume that City, Utd, Chelsea etc will all spend big this summer and without at least matching their spend, a top 10 finish is a realistic target.
How much legs is there in the rumoured take over talks?

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{Ed002's Note - FSG don't pick the players - you want to ask questions ask them of Klopp.}

02 Jun 2016 14:33:30
See Leicester.


02 Jun 2016 15:13:03
Mackers - FSG have spent more money than most owners. It is not the key to success. We need to build a team not splash out on Galacticos.


02 Jun 2016 16:20:01
i don't think the level of player we are linked with is an issue at all. We are linked with anyone who has played for Mainz or Dortmund and any half-decent player with a german accent. Its the ones we buy that seem a little underwhelming.
But let's not judge anyone until we have seen them play a season in red.


02 Jun 2016 17:01:03
Yes max renn we will definitely do a Leicester won't we. Can we stop comparing ourselves to them, it was a 1 in a million chance and it happened.


02 Jun 2016 17:48:25
Kman, better that than the constant bitching and whining from fans about not enough money being spent. It's just nonsense.


02 Jun 2016 17:52:35
We have consistently punched above our weight in the transfer market and we should be thankful for that. We don't have European football next year and do not have the finances of Chelsea/ Utd, so what is there to whinge about?


02 Jun 2016 21:11:28
My problem isn't with fsg, or the money they have spent. I know they have given us sufficient backing and that it's our recruitment team that has absolutely screwed us on the part (although it is up to the owners to know who they hire and if they are up to the job, and actually change it when it's not working, not just the manager) . My problem is wth fans comparing anything that we could do or have done with Leicester, that is making us an absolute laughing stock. 'Next year is our year' is actually our very sad motto for a reason.


02 Jun 2016 13:17:44
First post on here Ed's. Was wondering if we had any interest in Jonathan Tah.

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02 Jun 2016 12:26:57
Hi ed, do you know if anything new has happened with Chilwell? Or we are just waiting some time to finally sign him?

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02 Jun 2016 12:15:25
M Gotze is holding out for a sweatner as Ed said, i don't blame him its what all players do to some extent, what gets me is that h is not jumping at the chance of joining us he will be getting 1st team football in one of the best leagues in the world if not the best after the arrivals of Mourinho and Guardiola, and the teams they will make and the players they will bring in, at one time players would have jumped at the chance to join us, i know we don't have CL football but there's still other cup competitions we could win, with Klopp as our manager and with Gotze having worked with him before i thought he would come without hesitation, it just shows how much we have fell down the pecking order for players in the prem, but its his loss not ours because with Klopp we are going places as the 2 finals testify to, i think we should move on from Gotze because its clear we are not in his plans, so let's go out and get a player who wants to play for us because Klopp will build a winning team.

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02 Jun 2016 13:09:05
It's not always that simple, no European football at all and the northwest of England isn't even the most sought after place to be in England for players let alone the rest of Europe. He won't be short of offers so you can't blame him for not jumping at the first club that shows interest.


02 Jun 2016 14:11:59
we get the chance to see what all the fuss is about when the euros start, that's if he gets picked to play, and also if he does play can he remain clear of injury? Bayern would love nothing more than for him to do well and the offers to start flooding in as he is having trouble understanding they don't want to keep him.


02 Jun 2016 14:56:49
And Dortmund is a glamourous area? Nothing wrong with the North and you get more for your money compared to London I refuse to believe it's a matter of the area of Liverpool
It's simple. Liverpool are not in the limelight of the champions league for a long time
We are not a trend these young kids move around to find the next trend that's fashionable!


02 Jun 2016 15:10:11
Lobster, your right but a little naive, the north is lovely but when your weighing up offers from Spain or Italy England can seem a little unappealing. Lots of players won't care but a lot will.


02 Jun 2016 15:20:41
How would that help us KingKenny? If he has a stellar tournament his values doubles as well as more suitors with CL and higher wages.


02 Jun 2016 16:23:26
Why on earth would Gotze care if Liverpool offers more for your money than London?


02 Jun 2016 17:45:04
I agree Muscat, I love Liverpool but I can't honestly put my hand in my heart and say that if I was a multimillionaire I wouldn't look to live somewhere else.


03 Jun 2016 03:07:24
it won't help us G. O. T it will help Bayern munich, sorry mate that's what I should have originally said.


02 Jun 2016 10:44:23
How can i find maccas post everyones talkin about.

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02 Jun 2016 10:57:11
The "Other Posts" page mate.


02 Jun 2016 10:37:27
I'll probably be slated for this, but i don't think we should be looking at a player like bastien he impressed last season at a team in serie b, I'm a realist And I reaslise the likes of gundogan would prefer to play at city then for us, but I really believe we can do better then bastien, especially when we have the likes of brannagan who imo is just as good if not better then bastien.

There's plenty of other players out there who would love to play for us who is better then this lad, and where is he going to fit in? The midfield is already packed out as it is and with the likes of grujic to come in, stewart and chrivella and branngan to get more game time next season, why are we looking at a youngster who isn't going to start or improve are midfield? If we're looking at youth then why not go for praet or tielimans?

Let the slating begin but that's my opinion?

We need established players I don't want goetze and like i said the likes of gundogan who have a preference to play somewhere is out of our reach, but we should be pursuing dahoud the lad is a talent.

People will say look at a Leicester there players were bought cheaply and they won the league, yes at 5000-1, If we want top 4 we need to be aiming better then bastien.

Karius and matip are at a good level and can be world class, but I'm sorry bastien isn't and won't be at that level, I see another Luis Alberto or a suso here.

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02 Jun 2016 11:07:15
We are clearly looking to add at least one Midfiled player. It's not easy to go and buy any player. The player should be available for a transfer.
Borussia Monchengladbach has no interest in selling Dahoud. They have already rejected an approach from Juventus. Its shame really but that's where it is now.
As far as Bastien is concerned, it's clearly a signing for the future and wouldn't be a first team player next season.


02 Jun 2016 11:45:32
This is not slating, but you're looking at things from a very narrow and short term point of view. Every manager buys for both immediate and future needs. And if Bastien is bought then it's clearly for future potential and future needs. Exactly how things happened with Origi. Nobody knows which of the current midfielders is going to be around in this August or next August. It has clearly been said that nobody is guaranteed a place and all are for sale at the right price. So it makes sense to sow some seeds now and see what grows after a year or two or three, even. The window hasn't even officially opened yet. So the real action is going to start in about a month. Relax and enjoy the view.


02 Jun 2016 13:56:31
I think people are content at looking towards a future that may be non existent. Bastien is clearly one for the future, not sure if he will be integrated into the first team or u21, this is the is confusion I have with quite a few of the players we are being linked with. The reason there is such confusion is because with certain departures and the quality of our midfield (as everyone saw during the season) we will need at least one established player with some quality. Dahoud would have been a great player at such a young age but that will not happen. So instead we are just looking at younger prospects with 'bright' futures. I would love us to do this, when we actually have a good midfield. Then it would make sense to bring in youngsters that could learn off the first team and eventually break through, but so far this doesn't seem to be the case. As you can see by your replies and the disagrees your post gets, people are content in trusting the recruitment and management even if it fails, because 'we have klopp' so he will somehow sprinkle some magic and all will be good. People seem content with our so called progress which was again non existent last season. Because at the end of the day losing two cup finals, and finishing 8th in the league (our joint worse in the pl era) is failure no matter the improvement in play, because we still had the same problems that we did under Rogers especially in defence. Now I'm not blaming klopp, and I trust his management of the players, but klopp needs to build a team that needs to qualify for top 4 next season, there's no question about that, but this is not happening. He has a 3 year contract and we are trying to buy players that may flourish in 2-3 years time. Again before the brainless comment, I'm not looking for marquee or exotic names, I'm just looking for quality, and some with more experience at this level. Honestly we need a team for now, I don't know how else to stress it, because people are thinking Utd, city, Chelsea are all going to struggle with their new managers but they forget they already had better squads than ours and actually have more established managers coming in so I just don't understand this mentality. It's clear top 4 will be a struggle next season and the only way to improve this team is to get players that are good NOW.


02 Jun 2016 14:23:52
I think people will take issue with the fact you think utd, city and Chelsea have better squads than ours, all of those "established" managers you mentioned all have major rebuilding jobs to do imo, the traditional top 4 as we know it is gone so we have as good a chance as any team to achieve that, lastly the transfer window has not started yet, let's judge our purchases after the window has closed, as for young players who was it that said "you won't win anything with kids" if your good enough, your old enough imo.


02 Jun 2016 17:14:35
Kingkenny7, firstly how can you dispute the fact that city, Chelsea and United all have better squads than ours, because they quite clearly do. Chelsea are last seasons champions, city arguably have the best squad of players in the league and consistently win trophies and Utd have bags of potential have finished higher than us even with an average team and won a trophy, something our team couldn't do, so enlighten me on how our squad is even remotely better than theirs.

Secondly these established managers all have rebuilding jobs to do, as does ours but with more facilities, higher budgets and better squads, and that's not even mentioning their own résumé's that suggest that their more than capable of doing it, so they are already at an advantage.

Lastly, this isn't the 90's anymore, and Ferguson isn't around to do what he did all those years ago, tell me something that has happened like that since? Yeah I thought so. Because as we have seen, we have constantly overpaid on young prospects or average players at lower level clubs and it has made us more of a mid table team. So yeah, what where you saying?


02 Jun 2016 17:35:48
Kman92 you have given your opionion and I have given mine, that's what this site is all about, neither of us have a crystal ball so we don't know what will happen next season, I just don't think our squad is as bad as people think, we both want the same thing, Liverpool fc to be sucsessfull and as long as that happens I don't care what route they take to achieve it.


02 Jun 2016 17:49:01
Fair enough I agree with this, I just think we always make it hard for ourselves for some reason.


02 Jun 2016 09:38:59
With Bayern signing Renato Sanchez, We should go all out to sign Hojbjerg. He is fine player. Good first touch and disciplined to hold the line. Could dribble and has the physical attributes to shrug of players.

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02 Jun 2016 08:17:04
Hi Eds,

I just wanted to know if you had any idea if Klopp wants to get the bulk of his work done re signings prior to the euro's starting? If so we should be expecting some deals shortly! Is there anything/ anyone that's a lot further down the line in terms of completing a move at all?

Thanks for all your work with the as always, gets me through work on a daily basis! YNWA.

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02 Jun 2016 08:43:37
Every manager would want to get their transfers done asap. Minus Harry Redknapp of course.


02 Jun 2016 09:10:09
Still miss the sight of old 'Arry on deadline day peeping out of his car window!


02 Jun 2016 09:11:47
Grujic, Matip, Karius - that's 3 confirmed with Chilwell in the pipeline.


02 Jun 2016 12:47:03
Chilwell not happening, i have been reliably informed! I'm sure the eds can clarify this? On to the next target! Thanks.


02 Jun 2016 07:09:28
007,that directive may well have come from the new owners, who may have more input than you think. it was a quick about turn, Saturday walk-out, Monday price freeze. it does make you think.

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01 Jun 2016 23:34:49
I have just seen Ken agruo on edge lane €50 million deal close .

His agent Ste Wattsy said he's not replacing coutinho.

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