Liverpool Banter Archive May 02 2013

 

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02 May 2013 21:51:26
Hey just watching benfica v fenerbace and my god there's cheating then there's benfica shocking KUYT your still a great player hope u reach the final

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Unlucky

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There's cheating, then there is Benfica. Then there is the possibility of a team with Suarez and Bale. ;)

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02 May 2013 21:49:15
How are we This Evening Lads? Was talking to a mate I used to Live with From Bilbao and we got our usual Footie chat in, he Seems Adamant Iker Munian Will be sold if a reasonable Offer was to be made as he has a nasty streak and attitude Problems? what do you make of this? He also said Bilbao are Notoriously Difficult to Deal with, wondering why? I Know Munian was touted around England last yr etc etc, so don't give me a copy and paste if u would be so Kind. Cheers Guys, Have a good Evening
concon

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Are Bilbao the team in Spain that will only take Spanish players from that region? Or am I thinking of someone else?

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02 May 2013 23:10:58
Try the search engine.


Nah only kidding, munian would be a great addition, but with good scouting we can get similar type of players who wouldn't coss as much in lots of spanish teams. Or we should just target swansea targets, spurs keep doing it to us, so why not, and laudrup as a eye for a bargain

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Ha to the comment above. People from Bilbao would love you.

Davey Sulls

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03 May 2013 00:14:06
I think bilbao only sign players from the basque region, quite unique, just imagine Liverpool only letting players from Liverpool play, it wouldn't lack passion and pride for the jersey that's for sure, but at the same time. Makes finding world class players hard to find on a regular basis, therefor. Making it hard to competete with teams who can pick players from all over the world!

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Bilbao still manage to do it. Somehow! They've class player all over that squad. Makes you wonder just how much regional pride can lift a performance, and whether those players would be as good anywhere else. Look at Mikel San Jose. Didn't really look too comfortable in England (although young). But a wonderful player in his home region.

They've Amorebieta who's opted to play for Venezuela, although still half Basque I believe. This is about as foreign as that club gets.

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Anyone with basque heritage nowadays

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That's still a pretty small pool - no wonder they are notoriously difficult to deal with, they have to do a genealogy test every time they sign a player!

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02 May 2013 21:33:01
Eds would you be happy with a 6th place finish in the league?

Would depend on the derby result but still doable right? {Ed001's Note - that would do for me, so long as we beat Everton!}

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Yep. Beat Everton, happy! That'll do me this season, too.

Doesn't really matter where we finish, so long as the blues are put in their place. Then, if the season is done and dusted, get some out of form players back in there to go out on a good note.

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Im not happy finishing 6th! Nobody should, but beating Everton is always fun. We have to win to at least try to finish above them.

The Irish Rover

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02 May 2013 21:27:58
Messi, Iniesta and Ronaldo and I would be happy with our business this summer. Nah only kidding! I feel there are plenty of players we could get that will strengthen our squad that would be within our budget this summer. Someone like Tello for attack, Alderwiereld and Richards for defence and James McCarthy for the bit of bite in midfield. All could be available for cheap except maybe Richards. Tello and McCarthy could be bargains if we can pick them up for around 7m along with Alderweireld. Richards would be a brilliant signing IMO, quick, strong, good on the ball. If we have enough money I would buy a good attacking midfielder just to add a bit of depth.
Would love another gem like Coutinho, love a good bargain!:)

I know that's probably all just wishfull thinking but that's what I would love to see. Obviously that's assuming the likes of Reina stay, in which case we would already have a ready made replacement in Suarez ;)
-Beany.

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I don't really see the hype arounf McCarthy, being honest I have only watched him a few times. But he would cost a fair bit and I can see him being another henderson who takes a season before he plays at his level.

13reds

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There are plenty of good holding type midfielders around the prem at the moment. McCarthy is a good player. So's Colback (waiting for abuse for that). I still like Barry Bannan (charlie adam, but can defend), the guys passing is getting better and better. Cabaye is a good player. He can be a dirty ******* at times and has had a poor year, but he's a very good player. Morgan Schneiderlin is another one of those under-rated players (not LFC quality at this stage, but good).

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That would be good business Beany! The way things are looking with Wigan they will probably be relegated, McCarthy will obviously want out and would not be over priced. Unless Whelan (thats wigans owner right?) acts like a person again.

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Again Lion? Did he stop at some point?

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02 May 2013 21:26:33
Rafas first season at chelsea and their going to a european final, all the s*** they give him is disgraceful, they don't deserve him.

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02 May 2013 22:51:20
Rafa has been sh*t. He has caused us to drop so many points and lost so many games we shdn't have lost. Now, it'll take some luck to get Top 4.

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Those fans should be ashamed of themselves

imagine what he could have done if they had supported their manager

lets get him back

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Never been the brightest Football mob you'll meet that lot

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02 May 2013 23:18:57
Chelsea fans have been sh*t instead of rafa, now wait for mourinho to destroy your youth and win few titles for you then jump the ship!

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Rafa has done nothing haha you really don't give those players who won last season's champions league any credit it has nothing to do with Rafa they players deserve most credit

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03 May 2013 00:00:35
I'll NEVER recognise him as a Chelsea manager. Once a scouser always a scouser. Any other manager couldn't have done worse than the FSW. Now let us have a bit of our PAST, which apparently u'll love - The Special One back to the Bridge and Rafa back to u lot.

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03 May 2013 00:32:37
Chelsea are in transition, a lot of their core players have left and few remaining are on way eg: Lamps or terry etc, rafa has done fantastic looking at the situation he was and how the fans behaved was nothing more then embarrassing, I doubt Mourinho can win league title with the same squad which rafa manages, infact he is going to spend big and buy lots of world class players to win league titles for 3-4 years then leave as he does, that will massively effect your youth and again you will be in same situation which you find now or maybe worst.

Mourinho is not and will never be your answer, he is just short term fix to paper over the cracks, chelsea need long-term, not 2-3 years then again find yourself in same situation.

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CWC lost to Corinthians, FA Cup Semi lost to Man City, League Cup lost Semi to Swansea (two legs), lost to QPR at home, lost 2 goals leads at home to Southhampton and Reading, gave up leads against West Ham and Newcastle.

Look at that cr*p. And it is cr*p. You don't watch our season but feel qualified to tell us how our season has gone. We are in the EL final because Rafa has sacrificed our league position. It is 100% his fault we may not make CL next year. Benayoun returned from West Ham and playing regularly minutes for Chelsea because he is a rafa toy boy.

How about you guys just worry about finishing above the bitters. And I thought Harry said he would stop posting. Can he please not pretend to be a Chelsea supporter and post on our page. It's sad and pathetic

Melbourne CFC

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Anybody can walk in to the Europa League final with a first team like that. get over him! Rafa won't come back and thank God to that!

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03 May 2013 07:34:28
Under Di Matteo, do you really think Chelsea would have finished above City? I don't.

Most of your fans seemed to be enjoying themselves last night and I bet you sell you allocation for the final. After being knocked out of the Champs League group stages what more do you want? Even if Chelsea were still on the competition I doubt very much you'd be going to Wembley. Let's not forget, you hardly won the Champs League with fast flowing football, more like a 10 -1 formation.

Oh, and where were your infamous Channel 5 songs? At Basle, at Stamford Bridge and Anfield the other week - nowhere to be heard.

Funny that.

Rafa's done OK considering the constant booing he has received and you've been playing some good football.

Most fans would be really happy with a European Final and a top 4 finish to which I think you will achieve.

Just shows how fickle you lot are.

Nicky D

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Rafa certainly has not sacrificed your league position! Chelsea were 3rd when he took over and are still 3rd now. The position I believe you should be in with your squad. You would think, being a Chelsea supporter that you would know the basics?

The Irish Rover

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Yeah! let's see if Mourinho could win the league with the team Rafa has. Or will he buy buy buy? {Ed002's Note - Chelsea has identified players who will leave in the summer and players they would like to arrive - as most teams have. It seems rather pointless for you to ask this question.}

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The point was Ed (that you seemed to miss). For all the Chelsea supporters slating Rafa would Mourinho have won the league with his squad?

The Irish Rover {Ed002's Note - Then the second sentence makes no sense.}

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Yeah it's a real embarrassment that we haven't backed a manager who has bad mouthed us in the past, and claimed he wouldn't manage Chelsea because we are a plastic club.

You lot only asked for the head of a club legend, after demanding he be put in as manager in the first place. Only supported a man who racially abused one player and bit another. Only claim we treat rafa poorly, while you treat rodgers with no respect after every loss or draw. Yes - Chelsea is the embarrassment.

Fickle? I'm not fickle. I hated Rafa to start with and I hate him now. As with most of my clubs other 'plastic' fans, we sure have stood firm on this one.

"You were third when he came and are third now" wind your neck in mate. We were 4 points off United when your used up ex boss took over. We were alive on 5 fronts. CWC - fail. FA Cup - fail. League cup - fail. League - fail. EL - yet to win.

You are defending the indefensible. Rafa said I will win the fans over with results. He hasn't and has been rightly treated with disdain. Now he wants to cry foul because RM no longer have him as a viable option to replace JM? Give me a break. He is nothing more than a victim. Was at Liverpool, was at Inter and has certainly proved nothing has changed.

Melbourne CFC

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How do you know RDM would have given you the success on the points you so emphatically say "Fail"

Rafa was given the job and has done a job. Chelsea would not have won the league with or without Rafa.

Rafa has dignity, one thing you lot clearly do not possess.

What really cracks me up is fact that Chelsea have been quiet for 50 years.

Nicky D

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In my opinion, JM will fail at Chelsea 2nd time around. Rafa would fail at Liverpool miserably 2nd time around. You never go back, always forward.

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Chelsea going from Rafa (or RDM, a club legend as a player and manager, who is duly showed the respect the fans believe he deserves) to Mourinho is moving forward.

Melbourne CFC

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Di Matteo- Cl group- fail. First competition to be knocked out of. Just saying!

The Irish Rover

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First to win big ears for the club. 2 FA Cup Final goals. Legend now and always. I felt sick when he got sacked. He is and always will be a legend of Chelsea, I will always have that level of respect for him.

Can't say what he couldve achieved if he had the chance to stay on. Can assure you he wouldve inspired the players to play for the club more than the FSW. I don't think he would've lost 4 chances at silverware already. His Chelsea team played more attacking football. He commands respect as far as I'm concerned, and Rafa demands it.

Melbourne CFC

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All "ifs and buts" mate! There is no guarentee You'd be challenging on more fronts, all visible to see with the inept football played in defence of the European Cup.

Attacking football! You're having a laugh Melbourne, the 10-1 formation in the Champions league was there for all to see.

Judging by your views, maybe Rafa was right with his comments whilst at the helm at Liverpool.

Remember, it was your owner that sacked RDM and replaced him with Rafa.

Nicky D

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Nicky, unsurprisingly you miss the point. I haven't said once Jose or RDM would do better, it's impossible to predict. The 'facts' are that Rafa has been a failure. He has lost 4 chances at Silverware. RDM might've of done better, might not. Rafa did badly. 'Fact'

Melbourne CFC

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Melbourne - He hasn't done that badly though as he? You're in the UEFA Cup final with a really good chance of finishing in the top 4. If you win the cup and finish 3rd will you be moaning?

All of the pundits state how well Rafa has done, especially under the conditions and pressure the Stamford Bridge faithful has put him under! Remember, you've played 68 games this season.

Let's discuss the four fronts you mention.

Premier League - No chance

Champions League - Your dismal performance speaks for itself

FA Cup - Fair enough, knocked out. All teams, including United have been knocked out by "supposed" inferior opposition.

Carling Cup - You fielded a weakend team - so that speaks for itself

Rafa is and always will be a better manager than RDM - Maybe you should take a look at his CV.

By the way, maybe Rafa would have delivered to your expectations had you not been on his back singing RDM during the home games.

Nicky D

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02 May 2013 20:57:23
Anyone else here like to see spearing head to newcastle? I think he's a good little player who wears his heart on his sleeve, unfortunately not good enough for liverppol at this time. Any chance of this happening eds? Would love to see him playing every week in pl

13reds {Ed002's Note - I am sure he will look at what options are available in the summer.}

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I really liked Spearing, not good enough as a player but tried so hard for us and never gave up every time. Hope he ends up somewhere good for him

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02 May 2013 20:55:10
I wouldn't take any notice of these Rodgers quotes about not wanting to be in Europe via the back door,

Ask our sponsors if they want us playing in Europe with all the money they shell out for advertising on our shirts etc. I reckon I know the answer and it won't be let's concentrate on the league that's a fact.

YNWA JFT96

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It's because of the pre-season tour to to the middle east and Australia.

Plymouth Red.

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A reserve team should be able to deal with teams in the early rounds.

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There is no pre-season tour tour to the middle-east, there is however one to southeast Asia.

The real AG

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02 May 2013 20:49:07
any chance of scharr of basel? looks like a good footballing centre half. would slot in well beside agger.

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02 May 2013 14:36:26
Question for Ed001, Do you think or know that management are looking for using Andre Wisdom at CDM role as Lucas backup. If we buy 2 new CBs and with Johnson and Kelly at RB, he is pretty much going to be wasted there. Since we have a need at CDM, I think it would be wise to use him there if we are limited by finances. I personally think he has physical and technical skill set to thrive in that role. Plus when we are struck by injuries at defense he can always fill the gap there.

Thanks

AJ. {Ed001's Note - not as far as I am aware.}

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02 May 2013 19:19:54
carra retiring. skrtl/quates clearly do not have br trust otherwise he would have chosen 1 of them over carra. same goes for assaidi. I think we only need 2 buy 2 defenders we have kelly/wisdom. we need a winger to replace assaidi. if we sell quates/skrtl/assaidi/carroll getting 3 players with that money should be no problem, and I hope we can get a player like eriksen what a player he is and will only get better. erikson is just like coutinho but he can play a bit deeper or coming from the left. we should send shelvey/suso out on loan it will do them good. suso will be a great player in the future. our problem is that sterling/suso/shelvey are not ready yet they need more time. malta

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02 May 2013 19:17:56
Don't know why anyone's in a rush to get rid of Downing the way he's been playing. We should sign someone better than him but he's a solid option from the bench. Rebuilding the defence should be the priority this summer, and if we keep Suarez one signing up front will do the job. Ben Arfa would be my choice but if Ince is the player Rodgers seems to think he is he would do nicely.

Red Ollie {Ed023's Note - Downing is a brilliant defensive winger and has covered Johnson well a lot this season. He has improved vastly going forward too which is always welcomed. I wouldn't sell him at all}

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A brilliant defensive winger!
Says it all really.
The Juicer

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Yer Juicer, I mean who needs to defend.

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We should just play the 0-0-10 formation, actually **** the goalkeeper 0-0-11.

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03 May 2013 13:02:30
Juicer, Kuyt was a brilliant defensive winger. Very similar to Downing this year actually. Doesn't score too many from that position, but grabs assists, and puts a shift in to cover for an attacking wingback. When you think That Johnson has scored once this year and assited about 2/3, it begs the question, why do we play that system? Surely it would be more efficient to have a solid defensive right back who can offer support, but not attack as such, and then just have a proper attacker in front of him? Why do you think England play Milner in front of Johnson?

YNWA! (Adam)

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02 May 2013 18:51:37
Liverpool want Eriksson, no interest in Alonso at all. Led to believe that Mourinho is taking Alonso to Manchester City or Chelsea. Liverpool looking at long-term replacements for Pepe Reina including Sunderland goalkeeper Simon Mignolet and Swansea keeper' Michel Vorm. Sources close to the club (including someone I know) has suggested that Skrtel is staying at the club despite recent speculation following his future. {Ed023's Note - I would be shocked if Alonso went where Mourinho ended up}

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Mourinho and alonso don get on too well i'm led to believe.

13reds

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No chance of eriksen at all

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30 Apr 2013 22:33:50
Anyone think tello should be our number one attacking target? His pace is unreal starting to finish his chances what do the likes of Ed001 and ed023 think of this and is it possible? Cheers guys {Ed023's Note - I think Tello would be a very good signing. If we put in a bid IMO we would have a chance of getting him as he knows he would get loads of playing time - all he has to do is look at Coutinho and how much he has progressed under Rodgers}

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I'd certainly love it ed thanks {Ed023's Note - You are welcome}

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Do we hold genuine interest in tello young with experience suits the system hope Rogers is reading this page lol

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02 May 2013 18:34:21
I remember when I could get on this site without some going on about the Newcastle scouting system. How times have changed :) {Ed019's Note - :D}

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Newcastle still have a decent scouting system, their problem is they have a s**** manager

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Newcastle have suffered with injuries. The perfect example is Ben arfa! If he stays fit for about 3 months he's a monster and unplayable! However when he comes back straight away he seems to take awhile to get going.

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02 May 2013 17:56:07
Alrite folks i'm a massive Liverpool fan and as a irishman was happy with rodgers appointment but his comments today about turning down the europa league stinks of arrogance, who is he to turn down the europa at our expense, when we start turning our noses up at certain cups that's where we start to lose our motivation not a good move from our manager, MARK {Ed019's Note - We will have to get rid of pre-season altogether which will not help in future games, especially with the lack of squad depth}

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Bang on Ed-cannot believe lack of reason and Knowledge on here

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Lfc exist to win trophys and the europa cup is one and it does bring kudos in europe. red mick tag

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02 May 2013 16:34:57
I love this site people writing up saying we don't need alonso but soon as he's linked with another team everyone remembers how good he is classic banter page

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The fact that we don't feel we need Alonso back does not mean we'd be happy seeing him play for a close rival. We wouldn't hate him for it but we wouldn't like it

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Ahoy - I agree with you on Alonso, why do so many people go all misty eyed and moisten at the mere mention of his name.

His highs were very high and on his day unplayable, but he put in some abysmal performances and I have never missed the insistence on shooting from the half way line every game, and one final fact - he missed a penalty in the Champions League Final.

BOILED ONIONS

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Xabi Alonso would only be a good (re)signing if he came dirt-cheap.
Loves Liverpool and has an impeccible pedigree. However, he's not worth breaking the bank for. fact!
ANFIELDPETE

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Time to move on from Alonso. Coutinho passing every bit as good if not better.

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It certainly is not Mighty Reds. Coutinho couldn't lace Alonso's boots! Yet!

The Irish Rover

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Xabi is pure gold and would walk into our side. He has never been replaced

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If and only if we could get him for very cheap, his experience would be invaluable to the younger players. I think you need a good balance of older and younger players, maybe then we won't be so inconsistant. Anyway I for one would love to see him back at LFC.

GazzLFC

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02 May 2013 16:07:24
If the emphasis was on quality then I'd really love to see us go in for Alderweireld, Eriksen and Gaitan.

Somehow though, I think we have no chance.

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Swap Gaitan for Mertens and that would be a great 3 to start with.

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Mertens prefers the left and we need a right winger so keep gaitan! I'd also buy gustavo as he can play in every position we are weak in eg CB LB DM

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02 May 2013 14:55:11
Ed with it looking likely that Wigan could go down is there any chance we could go for James McCarthy? Great player and a great prospect, and a great option if we want a tough tackling midfielder. Could be a great deal if we were to sign him, any chance ed?
-Beany. {Ed002's Note - Try the search function.}

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02 May 2013 14:38:55
Reading Gerard's interview there and he is spot on. Don't waste our money buying expensive defenders. Give the kids a go and buy real quality at the other end of the pitch. Attackers win the league while a solid defence is all that is required.

On an other note he says we need another forward. He says we have only two top forwards in suarez and sturridge. Most top teams have four!

If I was manager I'd target:
1 CB (alderwield sakho dede)
Gustavo CB LB DM
RW (gaitan mertens)
AM ( eriksen henrik Honda)
ST ( soldado remy)

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02 May 2013 14:52:55
ok. to the targets mentioned.

nope nope nope
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nope and nope

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02 May 2013 15:05:29
Good BR is manager then.

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Alderwiereld may join now that spurs have lost interest

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What isn't Kelly being earmarked as Centre Half? thought that was plan?He has All the attributes-heart in club also. Is his injury worse than thought?

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More to the point - why is Gerrard talking as though he is the manager?

HB

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Why ar u talkin like u know more about football than gerrerd

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02 May 2013 13:48:31
Been told that the rumours of Newcastle being interested in Spearing are true, also LFC and Ajax have once again been in talks regarding Eriksen was told the talks happened at the beginning of the week.

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Eriksen is not happening

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02 May 2013 14:54:54
Doubt we will sign eriksen. I hope the club concentrats at the defence.

If they feel we need a new LB and DM then the summer is only about the defence.

GK, CB, CB, LB, DM

But I think Robinson and Coady will get their chances and we will buy: GK, CB, CB, AM, W

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Suarez happened!- so why not?!

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02 May 2013 13:21:45
any clubs interested in taking downing off our hands? he's been dreadful week in and week out. he's the worst player to put on a LFC shirt since konchesky

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That's a great advert that'll really put him in the shop window. Next time try more goals & assists than nani, young & Valencia put together this season

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02 May 2013 14:28:50
i disagree. his 5 goals and 8 assists so far this season beg to differ as well. what a silly little post from a silly little troll :)

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9 assists now, he was credited with two in the last match

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He has more league goals than England's number 1 centre forward Danny Wellbeck

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02 May 2013 13:08:15
Why does he not want the Europa through fair play? We have acadamy playes now in there 20's, when the hell are they going to get games?
They are getting to the age where they either start playing or we need to sell some to be honest, this is an ideal competition, if they go out first round then it doesn't matter as we weren't going to enter anyway?

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Playing well recently actually pal and got two assists at the weekend but guess your just to ignorant see this through the agenda you have against him.

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If 20 year olds aren't playing in the first team already they aren't good enough it's about time some people realised that.

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02 May 2013 14:30:06
We will not be getting a spot anyway and even if we did BR doesn't have much say of the matter. My God people just want something to bitc* about :/

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Agree with Brendan he's trying to instil pride in achievements and fact you have to work hard to attain them!

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Swamps right - look at all those players like Carragher, Henry, Bale, Iniesta, Drogba. None of them first choice at 20, none of them made it.

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02 May 2013 12:59:50
Hello Eds, A big thanks to the work you guys do on this site!
I would like to know if possible in your opinion, which attacking players are we looking at or stand a chance of getting?
I tried the search function but none the wiser mate.

Brad {Ed002's Note - You need to read the posts Brad.}

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02 May 2013 12:58:57
Players not good enough to play any part of the Liverpoolt squad.

Andy Carroll £12 Million
Stuart Downing £5 Million
Danny Wilson £1 Million
Michael Ngoo £2. 5 Million
Dani Pacheco £4 Million
Jon Flanagan £2 Million
Jack Robinson £2 Million
Adam Morgan £1. 5 Million

It's time to let them go and improve. They are decent enough players but that isn't decent enough for Liverpool Football Club. Every player that I've left out are certainly good enough or capable enough of being a Liverpool player.

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You realise United literally just won the league with 5 games left with a squad of players who are mostly 'decent enough'. Downing has been more effective than all their wingers in all competitions combined, Carroll has more goals and assists than Welbeck and Hernandez combined and most of the other players you mentioned their are kids, you have no idea if they are good enough. The fact that you value and out of contract player at £1m (Wilson), a player doing brilliantly in the Scottish prem at £2.5m (Ngoo) and a player utterly flopping in the Spanish Second division at £4m shows how little you actually know

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02 May 2013 14:33:14
Heh, I was going to write Haha but its not even funny.

Downing 5 million? I would rather keep him.

Pacheo 4 million? if he is 4 million good they I would keep him too. but he is NOT and he will go for 0.5million or 1 million tops!
lay of the sauce mate, its harming you and us

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02 May 2013 14:34:37
Ngoo and Wilson who are out of contract will get us almost 4million :D wow

Robinson is not for sale, and I doubt anyone will pay 2m for flanagan or even 1, 5 million for morgan.

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02 May 2013 15:02:27
You don't have to know everything to post an opinion on this site. All you Mr technicals need to chill out. I didn't know Wilson was out of contract and I personally rate Pacheco and that's what he's worth to me. The youngsters there have premiership experience and have been trained at Liverpool academy, I thought £1 Million tops was reasonable. Besides that the point I made was true, no matter how nit picky your responses are. These players can be replaced with other promising players. Downing for £5 Million is a good price IMO If possible we could buy Tom Ince for that amount, Downing won't get a game when a new winger comes in.

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Andy Carroll £16 Million
Stuart Downing £8-10. 5 Million
Danny Wilson - free
Michael Ngoo £2 Million
Dani Pacheco £750K
Jon Flanagan £3 Million
Jack Robinson, you crazy BR won't sell Robo and if he did he'll ask around £4.5m
Adam Morgan £1. 5 Million? don't know what he'd go for

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If you always replace your promising players with other promising players, how do you ever get players that reach their promise? No your point is not true, you have picked random prices out of the air and attached them to people who look good at the level they are at and are yet to appear on the higher level, except for one of two matches for a few of them. You don't have to know everything to post an opinion, but then don't get huffy when other people point out how arbitrary and baseless your opinions are.

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I would guess the young players mentioned (except Robinson) will have no future at Liverpool so maybe not so promising. If they can get a fee for them then all well and good.

The Irish Rover

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Wilsons contract expires this summer. We won't receive anything for him.

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02 May 2013 12:55:21
3 reasons to cheer up.
1. Andy Carrol could be given an England call up. ( must have finnacial benefits at least )
2. Newcastle are interested in Spearing
3. Our home Kit looks great.

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4. It's sunny. We might even go the whole of May without snow

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5. I'm off work tomorrow

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4 day weekend? Nice

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02 May 2013 12:19:55
Hearing rumours that Alonso may follow jose to Chelsea? I for one hope that's not true would be very disappointed

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02 May 2013 14:35:18
Don't believe that for 1 secound

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It's better than him joining utd or city

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02 May 2013 11:58:26
Spurs mooted to be after Tom Ince. Chelsea reportedly want Alonso. We should leak dodgy info to media that were chasing Laurel and Hardy and the poor fellas would be exhumed and offered a contract to Gazump LFC's

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No way Chelsea will get Alonso, he'd never go there at this point -especially as they only give 1 year contracts to over 31's.

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02 May 2013 12:31:44
Good players will always be linked to other clubs imo if they are not linked to anyone else there good be a reason. not that good, bad atitude r just something like stan collymore bundles of talent but a total pr---. Tommy Irish Red

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Personal terms have been agreed with ince & spurs, he already knows he will be back up to lennon!

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No-name poster, seem bizarre that they've already agreed personal terms without a price agreement being reached. Or that he'd go to Spurs to be second choice when he left us and wasnt that keen on coming back BECAUSE he didn't want to sit on the bench much

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Shame Spurs never gazumped up when it came to Allen & Borini.

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02 May 2013 14:59:12
Support allen and borini mate, if you can't I suggest you support spurs then since you are so sad we missed out on dempsey and sigurdsson and now have got STURRIDGE and COUTINHO instead. Oh yeah I get it, you are waiting for those 2 to have a horrible run or just come back from an injury to call them s**** and rubbish and have a go at BR and FSG, the usual clueless stuff:)

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It used to be utd now it spurs who chase our targets funny.

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I don't mind if he goes to spurs, it will put 33. 3333% of the transfer fee in the transfer kitty for BR in the summer.

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There hardly unknowns. Do you think other clubs don't watch players?

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Like the sad but true factual post-Us and Utd USED to be chasing same players. Now us and Spurs

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Still don't get all the hate off a few for Allen and Borini!

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02 May 2013 11:57:58
I think our new goalkeepers jersey is just too good to be only for them. it should have been our away kit

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Goalies' kit is a pearler, I agree with you there. Put a plain red crew neck collar and red cuffs on it, bingo.
The Juicer

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The away kit is white, black and red with a sort of aztec pattern.

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Is that the yellow one with the black v? It's really nice if it is

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Goalie's kit needs to come in a shirt sleeved, I'd pick it up for sure. I agree that it would have been a real nice away kit for the team. shame.

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02 May 2013 10:57:04
hi eds

does anyone see the way bayern r playing similar to the way we were playing the 2009 season during that run we went on beating utd real. the question needs to be asked if rafa got good backing and the players he actually wanted he could get a team winning leagues cl et al. Now don't get me wrong i'm happy with the way brendans going about things for us but just think city would be the job for r rafa and give him a great chance to knock purple nose of his perch and make interesting viewing. Unfortunately for us its just hopefully push for top 4 next season which I think is achieveable with a few additions. Tommy Irish Red

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Rafa got huge amounts of backing, more than we could actually afford

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Mourinhio to Chelsea, the old guard ( Lampard and Terry ) will be moved on, Roman is clever as Rafa will takeall the press and fans stick over it, Clever bringing in a manager who they allready hated and deflecting that yourself.
A north west club would suit Rafa, and Ed has stated that there is opposition to him by some on the RM board now. but I see Rafa and Klopp at RM and city, just which one at where.

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Bang on the guys that slag off Rafa refuse to accept the restrictions Rafa worked under at the Time and before they all start mouthing in response to this would be best served reading Lfc fan and journalists Brian Reade's book about the H and G regime at the time. Because like him or not (and he wasn't perfect!)-How he did as well as he did under their incredulous game playing reign is almost miraculous and what was needed in 2009 was the 2-3 quality players Benitez requested and we would have been right up there. Now all this is not a slight or effort to undermine Rogers as Rafa would say its FACT-read-Reade's book! (title escapes me something about 44 days yank cowboys springs to mind) ans so Rafa was forced to wheel and deal on shoestring (the regnaded on cash he WAS promised for those 2-3 players, and subsequently inferior make do players came to the club in the hope of thickening out the squd as prime targets for valued positions were made off limits. And in the end Rafa did lose plot and get involved in the back stabbing politics at the time. But implore people read that book!-Brian Reade has printed quotes and statements that if we're not valid and he couldn't back up he would surely have been sued!-However he ain't the Manager currently and that's in the past we all dwell upon too much!- Move on! And if ever there's a need for him to return debate can be opened of the ensuing reign. Without losing site of the previous reigns facts are in black and white to see. Except most people want to spout Manc/Cockney media versions of the truth!

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I'm not slagging off Rafa. Just arguing that he didn't fail because he didn't have the resources or backing - he did

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"An epic swindle: 44 months with a pair of cowboys". That's the title of the book.
It's for sale on Amazon brand new £2. 81 with free delivery for those who are interested. BARGAIN!

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02 May 2013 14:38:43
stop deluding yourself, benitez sucked and almost ruined the club financially when he failed misrabley with his over 250 million signings

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Rafa got huge amounts of backing, more than we could actually afford
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nah mate the debt we had was due to H&G taking out huge loans (with huge interest rises) for the stadium but never using the money to build the stadium.

if you look at Rafa's net spend you'll find that he really only spent around £40m max

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If you also look at the money Rafa generated with year on year Champions League I think you would be surprised.

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O. p here-ta for poster recalling title. Also last guy you got it fella. Love to know all those arguing against my post-How many of you have read digested and analysed that book BEFORE you post your counter argument. Fine you have opposing view-but what is it based on?Ok harping on throwing random figures about but last poster bang on-check out net spend!-Stadia argument pertains only to wasted design cash no more

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Rafa's net spend, not including wages, fees or anything else, was £78m

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As a United fan I would be delighted for Rafa to go to City, that would leave us and Chelsea to fight it out for the title!

HB

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02 May 2013 10:30:43
Newcastle and Bolton to have a bidding war for Jay spearing.
I'd expect to fetch 3 to 5 mil for him as he was recently named as bolton's player of the year.

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It might be more like a bidding skirmish.

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Can you understand now why no london club were interested? And Liverpool thought they had stolen a deal?

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Can you understand now why no london club were interested? And Liverpool thought they had stolen a deal?

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02 May 2013 14:40:07
what rubbish are you spouting? stop trolling

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02 May 2013 14:51:54
Yes, I am so happy for this. They will push his price up to a whopping £ 2.5 million :)

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02 May 2013 09:37:50
Am I the only one who doesn't care if we do a 'Dodgeball' and turn up for matches in a dominatrix kit, as long as we win whilst wearing it? Not buying the kit this year (I buy every other year) but if we have a good season with it, I'm sure it'll be our biggest selling shirt for a while whatever people are saying.

Personally, I like the home kit which we play 75% of matches in anyway

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The kit designs aren't really that important, but given a choice, they may as well not look like crap. The new home shirt looks great, by the way. Just removing half a dozen sets of three stripes helps a lot. I'm hoping Warrior are having a little joke with away and third kit mock-ups.

P. S. : do we really want to see what Luis would do on the pitch if they dressed him like a dominatrix

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02 May 2013 09:17:41
Morning all just a question on the style of footie we play after seen barca get hammered last night do u think rodgers may have second thoughts on his style of play hope not because its great to watch but can't help feeling teams no how to play against it now I think we need a big strong type of striker with pace and we need what bayern have a togetherness PS do u think with CHEWY (that's what my 5yr
son now calls him) been unveiled wearing the new kit that he could stay because there's not a better player at what he does in terms of skill out there LUIS STAY BUCK is building something special JON96

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Again - we don't play the so called 'tiki-taka' football. We pass and move. We have played a variety of balls in every match from all positions to all positions. The only similarity to tiki-taka that our game has is keeping the ball on the floor, which is probably due to us having a short team. We have played the 4th greatest number of long balls in the PL this season. Not tiki-taka, never tiki-taka and BR has never talked about tiki-taka to us.

Not to mention Barca had one bad game. If BR is looking at Barcelona and thinking about whether to completely change his style and become a team focused on a lumbering giant up front, why wouldn't he look at their league dominance and thing 'maybe what we're doing is fine for now'. Bayern Munich smashing Barcelona does not invalidate the rest of Barca's season, or the past 8 years. They've had a poor season in the CL, mostly due to a lack of depth and injuries in defense and their manager being out recovering from cancer. We will play our own game which is not the same as Barcelona and never has been, and will alter it according to how WE find it, not Barca.

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A blend of two styles is ultimate aim I. m. 0 however longevity dictates Bayern's will be proved better on that score. Barcas slowly eroded into a reliance on one man fuelled by the Media hype of his undoubted brilliance but detracted others from understanding own roles and realising its always a TEAM game EVEN if you have a focal point

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Great reply Sam.

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Good post 'samsam9000'

HB

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02 May 2013 08:00:41
hi eds, BAYERN MUNICH is the highest rank of stoke and west brom type playing style. we need some power players against these teams. carrol, diame will very handful with them. next season we needs players that we can change the players according to the team. losing points to stoke in regular basis is very ugly to see. so time to change.

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No team that ever hoped to be the best in the world plays every match reacting to their oppositions style - they impose their own. And we will do the same

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Lost count o. p of how long I've been ridiculed on here saying the same!-you have to have in your squad personnel who can change your teams options and tactics. Unsure we have that and Barca proved they do not have in order to adapt to physical approach. In fact Oldham performance and others by us this season strongly suggest the similarities

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02 May 2013 15:30:18
higest rank of westham and stoke?

propably the most clueless comment of the century! didn't relize Bayern played hoof ball.
wih their giant target men, Ribery, Muller and Robben or their Giant defenders Lahm and Alaba. Gomez is always on the bench! And by size only Dante and Vanbuyten is Stoke standard, LOL

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02 May 2013 15:32:36
you deserve the ridicule mate. A season is 50 games. 4 games a season against Stoke and Westham doesn'r recuire Andy Carroll or Diame who is tired after 60 minutes and is an attacking midfielder for westham, not in any way, shape or form a competion or even a replacment for lucas

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Last two posters ain't JUST THEM two games!-our leagues unique for its differing styles. You HAVE TO have personnel to adapt more here then almost anywhere. Mouriniho himself says at times maybe not best quality but hardest to win because of length of season, amount of games, winter schedule and physical demands of style over here

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02 May 2013 06:59:33
Eds what do you think of Thiago Alacantara? I know he used to start a lot under Guardiola but it seems he's been frozen out of the starting line up. Is it that hope hasn't been developing as well this season under Tito Villanova, or that he is refusing to sign a new contract? Would be interesting to hear if there is interest from anywhere? And if he would be willing to move from a sinking ship.

RedsMatt {Ed002's Note - There is perhaps a chance that Alcantara will move in the summer and I am sure there would be interest from England if he became available in teh summer - but for now there is nothing that I am aware of.}

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Doubt it would happen because to me if he was for sale he would be perfect for Inter after Paulinho fell through, but I'd love to see him in our colours {Ed002's Note - Inter are looking to Gustavo right now.}

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Would love Gustavo at Liverpool come on Brendan!

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We already have coutinho with suso and teixeira as backup. It much better to spend the money on other target.

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02 May 2013 15:01:50
thanks no name. my thoughs exactly. also adorjan is a very good player, but he is out of contract so don't know the situation with him.

Philippe Coutinho
Jordan Henderson
Suso Fernandez
Joao Carlos Teixeira

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02 May 2013 06:44:52
I am wondering if Sturridge will be wearing no. 9 next season.

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I think sturridge is wearing 15 because he has done so well at Bolton with that number can't see him changing now after a good start. If it ain't broke don't fix it

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15's a lucky number for him.

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02 May 2013 03:58:14
I wouldve been very happy to have the home goalkeeper kit as the away kit for next year. Just dreading when they release the other kits for next year because its looking like the hideous ones that were leaked

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I thought the same thing

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Yes, the goalkeeper kit is great

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02 May 2013 15:04:39
Yep, I was hoping it was the away kit! Hehe. Hope those rubbish jerseys on the web are not the real 2nd and 3rd kits. But loved the home kit and just ordered one with Joe Allen & Fabio Borini on the back=)

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02 May 2013 01:54:35
Fair play to the guy Melly who uploaded the photo of the new home kit on Feb 7th. I hope the away kit he posted is wrong though because it horrible. Jaffer81

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02 May 2013 01:05:27
Everton played a high line closing down game v Arsenal. Afterwards when interviewed their players mentioned they did so because Aesenal like to pass out from the back. Says to me similar tactics likely v us. So leave Sturridge 'out' when were defending, especially set pieces and someone else edge of own box to break at pace and have two options ball over their last man/men or option to slide ball in channels between their full back and Centre half. Bit worried about the physical nature of this game wether good idea to start Coutiniho. As well as ironically closing them down and denying space in reverse I hope we get stuck in but remember keep discipline-It's a fine line competing and having ten men (Mr. Shelvey-If your involved!) Coutiniho maybe best used as an impact player coming on. I would like to see Downing Hendo Stevie and Lucas across midfield blocking Baines down the left in particular and denying Fellani space to time his runs, and Miralles also for that matter. Thoughts Please fellow Reds. Come Onnnnnnnnnnnnn!

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We will be playing the same team as last week and trying to impose our own game at Anfield on them, not patching together a new style and formation in a week and leaving out our best players to panic and adapt to the game Everton will want to play

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O. p here yes respondent take your point however if as against Oldham, Stoke, Villa at home to name just a few those tactics we want to impose (agree with you) at Home do Not work-surely you must be able to CONSIDER what your opponents have done previously to nullify teams with similar approach in order for you to adapt in a game SHOULD opponents style be coming out on top. that's not saying you DO NOT HAVE FAITH IN OWN. Its covering bases (which we haven't done in aforementioned games)-to be prepared to Counter what they've imposed. Or in old terms lad-"Belts and Braces"approach-I. e A plan b and c JUST IF!-Needs be

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Yeah the team won't change from last week. The midfield that you mentioned could still be played from last weeks line-up with Coutinho slotting in behind Sturridge again in almost a free role where he did so much damage against Newcastle with Downing and Henderson running on ahead from midfield. It gives us the freedom to go from 5 in midfield to 4 up top.

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02 May 2013 15:08:10
good for you writing words in BIG letters, I didn't even read it.

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The fact that other teams stopped us playing our the game we want to play is not an indication that we need to change our play to fit our opposition - it's a sign that we need to ensure we do what we want to better

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O. p maybe Sam, but if a certain tool doesn't work you adapt, but point taken. TALKING OF TOOLS-Poster above yours is this a BIG ENOUGH TOOL FOR YOU?!-Dont post if not constructive smart apse

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Changing from skilled attack to a big heavy lump seems a pretty big adaptation to me, when we haven't tried injecting some extra width/pace first

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02 May 2013 00:22:42
do we think moyes will man mark our little brazilian at the weekend I think he will to stop him getting the space to play those ridiculous passes only prb with tht is I reckon he has the game and quick feet to beat his marker easily also think hendo will be a big player on sunday

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They ll TRY to kick him off pitch and intimidate him

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02 May 2013 00:11:16
just seen new kit on the Liverpool website looks grand so got one with coutinho on it, reminds me a bit of the early 80s ones

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02 May 2013 00:09:02
Loving the New Kit!

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02 May 2013 00:07:04
"Content to let the Spanish side pass the ball about in their own half, Munich sat back and pounced on loose passes to mount dangerous counter-attacks on the beleaguered Barca backline. "

R. I. P. Tika-Taka

Spectre.

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You are aware we haven't played 'tika-taka' since about october right? We do pass and move like we always have, and have played the 4th highest amount of long passes in the PL.

It's like you don't even watch us

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Not to mention if 'all we'll get' from Tika-taka is a CL semi final and winning the league by 10 points, I think we'll 'cope' with that

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This tika-taka nonsense annoys me as much as comparing Liverpool to teams like Barcelona and Arsenal. Rodgers has put emphasis on passing and pressing players on the ball. We don't pass the ball around patiently like we were doing at the start of the season, we play more direct and use pace and skillful dribbles to unlock defences.

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Thank you for clearing this up lads! Everyone is going on about this bull tiki taka barca esque style. We don't play like them yes we don't hoof it to the big man and we do play a number of passes but we are much more direct than barca. I'd just like to point out 'direct' does not mean kick it long.

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The post refers to Barcelona and its Tika-taka style. Then it's jumped on as an attack on Liverpool.

I remember a few months back Liverpool were passing to each other aimlessly in their own half. The opposition sat back, then hit them on the break.

Whether or not Liverpool will return to a Takky-wakky style is debateable.
What is certain, is, this style of football has been sussed.

It will be interesting how other teams now approach Barcelona.

Tapas

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