Liverpool Banter Archive November 02 2010
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02 Nov 2010 23:55:27
I couldn't agree more on that guy who said our players are ugly gerrard used to be beatifiul meireles needs to gain muscle and grow his hair back, fernando needs his natural colour back he was better blonde! Mmm alonso was gorgeous :( well at anfield on Sunday I'm gonna let those f* *king blues know EXACTLY where they are can't wait YNWA forever! In Sammy Lee we trust ( btw I've met him he's the most amazing red fan in the world ). After Ed of course :)
ED for manager!
Btw edthe best players in the world are good looking/ okay
messi van persie aguero Ashley torres cesc ronaldo. {ed's note - that explains why I am not one of the best players in the world then.....}
02 Nov 2010 23:33:49
I really do want to support Roy but as far as i can see he does not have a clue. .We look slow and one dimensional, I do not know how fulham got to the final last year. .
But for me the biggest problem is he's just to nice and needs to grow a backbone
lfcrik
02 Nov 2010 23:19:09
Hi Ed and fellow reds , I'm disgusted with the way Roy is slagging off raffa every chance he gets rather than admit he is not good enough and no longer wanted at our club by the fans and mabye the players , raffa fought for what was best for our club and was very unfairly treated by x players (ronnie whealen, ray houghton, jamie redknapp and so on who made his job harder than it already was fighting with h&g who are the real ppl to blame I feel sorry for raffa all he done for this club and for us the supporters he shouldn't be treated the way he was nor should he have to answer from comments made by a clueless monkey like Roy who seems to blame everyone but himself for the rss we are in at moment cause if raffa was still here with nesv and the backing of fans players and ex players we all know we deffo wouldn't be were we are now Roy ie a disgrace get out of our club
02 Nov 2010 23:05:28
In reply to:
Break the bank for bale please, give them gerrard if we have to.
Not exactly a great idea to strengthen are left whilst weakening our centre. Apart from that pointless post because tottenham would never sell him to us, and even bale demanded to leave he is hardly going to want to go to a non-champions league side struggling in the prem never mind the fact that he slagged off the city and the club so please stop posting bale it ain't ever going to happen
02 Nov 2010 22:53:31
Full january transfer budget plus babel for bale. . if that's not enough then throw in gerrard and torres aswell
02 Nov 2010 22:49:21
Man Utd unbeaten in 23 games . .
We need a new Manager . .
02 Nov 2010 22:37:42
Ed indulge me, give me a one-liner or a sentence on your opinion of our managers since king kenny left {ed's note - apart from Roy Evans, I have not enjoyed watching us play since Kenny's days in charge, not one has got us playing football of the kind of quality we deserve.}
I was surprised when Roy Evans kept Phil Babb in the team even when LFC signed Paul Ince .
Souness was appaling ,
Evans moved in the right direction ,
Houlier was technically negative and his signings awful ,
Benitez's arrival offered us much more than I think we got in the end , the one time he threw caution to the wind (2nd half in Istanbul) LFC won a 5th European cup . He could have been much greater .
I must say 'Ed' , it is refreshing to hear someone representing LFC , even independently (such as yourself) say the football looks bad and could be played much better with greater creativity .
Evans and Benitez seemed to be on the cusp of being a real force only for it to founder .
02 Nov 2010 22:35:25
Break the bank for bale please nesv.Give them gerrard if we have to
02 Nov 2010 22:34:32
Torres need 2 be playing these europa league games,
he needs more games to rediscover his form and these games are more likely for him to get a goal.
he shud av played against n'hampton aswell, ,
no matter who a striker scores against , it will giv him confidence. .
i know we hav to think about chelsea on sunday, but even play him in the 1st half on thursday,
if he scored against napoli, he would be going into sundays game full of confidence havin scored 2 in 3 games.
02 Nov 2010 22:30:51
Ed, whoz the lad who playz 4 basel?didnt he score against us.hes only a kid n looks real good player reminds me of rooney alot
{Editor's Note: Hard to say - you mean a bad complection?}
02 Nov 2010 22:19:05
Ed, why is it lfc never sign sexy players or always sell them? We have b0ught konchesky, poulsen and mereiles who are butt ugly and aqualani was loned out. Fabio is always injured and im surprised torres is still with us. Vdv was probably too good looking to sign for us and i doubt we'll sign contrao or honda because they are handsome as well. Our football is as ugly as our players' faces. Torres, reina, maxi, fabio and johnson are the only decent looking guys in our squad and the rest. .well, eeesh(carra, skrtel, kocheskey, lucas, kuyt, cole, ngog, babel, poulsen, stevie, mereiles, etc.). Maybe if we start signing good looking players we can start playing better football. Just thinking outside the box here. Your thoughts?
Red bl00ded! {ed's note - nice idea, but not being that way inclined I really couldn't care less if every player is a minger or not.}
02 Nov 2010 22:17:57
Ed indulge me, give me a one-liner or a sentence on your opinion of our managers since king kenny left {ed's note - apart from Roy Evans, I have not enjoyed watching us play since Kenny's days in charge, not one has got us playing football of the kind of quality we deserve.}
02 Nov 2010 22:09:47
I know I could sound a bit stupid but ED how do you pronounce Coentrao? Is it Con-trow? Co-en-trow? lol {ed's note - I was told it was pronounced Cent-row (row as in to argue) by a friend of mine who is Portugese, but I don't know if it is correct, after all it is a name and people choose their own pronunciations for names!}
02 Nov 2010 22:05:38
Spurs and LFC in a role reversal .
LFC with a poor manager sitting in mid table trying to do something in the second best euro competition .
Meanwhile Spurs are poised with confidence and taking the Champions league and the European Champions to task .
How times have changed .
How we long for a 'Manager' and 'Staff' that know the opposition should be well beaten and the crowd entertained .
02 Nov 2010 21:59:37
Swap Babel and 25 million for Gareth Bale. He's 21 and must fit the new owners profile for signing players.
02 Nov 2010 21:58:38
Just watched spurs v inter. tremendous match. were you watching roy, that's how you play football. you attack teams.
so roy. tell me again about van der vaart. ." he isn't the type of player profile we are looking for". yeah right
I can remember when we used to play like that.
chris 1
02 Nov 2010 21:54:20
Wow. Spurs were awesome. Vdv and bale at it again and crouch scored as well. It hurts to see how good they are. But hey, we are liverpool! Who cares if our manager can't even mastermind a win against blackpool or northampton? We should just be supporting because its the liverpool way, right? Who needs players we could have had like crouch and vdv if we have poulsen and babel? We should just be supporting them because its the liverpool way! Isnt doing things the liverpool way just fantastic?
Red bl00ded!
02 Nov 2010 21:50:51
A brace for Benfica fullback and LFC target 'Coentrão' playing left back in a 4-4-2 formation .
If we signed him he could be as effective as Gareth Bale is proving on Spurs left side .
I wonder wether Roy Hodgson is ever interested in such attacking quality .
And it all went so well for RH at Fulham . .
02 Nov 2010 21:47:05
Ed, cn u tell me the last time we unearthed a diamond in the ruff.some 1 we bought on the cheap who was unproven who turned out 2 b amazing.apart from sami.all other top and lesser teams do it time afta time.think we may have sum coming through rite now bt past shows b4 there they gt there we normally flog em.we need 2 start b run properly.
red pants {ed's note - you know you really have me stumped, I was going to say Pepe Reina, but I am not sure 5 or 6m for an unproven player can be called cheap.}
02 Nov 2010 21:39:45
Coaentrao is a must signing for lfc.
02 Nov 2010 21:33:08
Incredible performance from Spurs .
Who knew 'Arry Redknapp had it in him , from his time at West ham.
'Arry is such a creative , expansive gaffer - Good Luck to them .
02 Nov 2010 21:31:35
Break the bank for bale. Absolute top player.
02 Nov 2010 21:25:27
"Irish National Teletext has Roy Hodgson and Sammy Lee sacked. Announcement imminent"
And what makes you think anything about Liverpool football club would appear in Ireland before it comes out on Radio Merseyside or Radio City.
Liverpool Football Club = breaking news will come from LOCAL media first, always has, always will !
02 Nov 2010 21:23:25
{Editor's note - Banega and VDV}
That is some statement putting those 2 players in a midfield ahead of Gerrard . I wonder if you are just trying to cause controversy on your site .
For all these rumours and wishlists , LFC are just as likely to do very little in the January transfer window and might be quite conservative until they can sort out the clubs business and commerce whilst improving the club structure . Then the club will start to generate great profits - that can be invested in the first team .
02 Nov 2010 21:18:02
Ok give you that one. well hopefully if history repeats itself like it does where ever harry goes spurs will go in to admin for bein over ambitious and we can get vdv for a cut price! then you will have your perfect cm ha
02 Nov 2010 21:12:31
Ok lets do this another way ed. . banega or huddlestone? modric over meriles yeah will give you that one, but the big one gerrard or vdv?
{Editor's note - Banega and VDV}
02 Nov 2010 21:05:37
Ed, chelsea maybe but spurs and arsenal wudnt have a better choice of central midfieiders than gerrard banega merieles and the ever improving lucas surely
{Editor's note - Gerard is loosing his speed, stamina and mobility. Merieles and Banega are good players and Lucas is decent, Spurs have Modric, Van Der Vaart, Jenas, huddlestone, palacios, Sandro ect}
02 Nov 2010 21:04:22
Spurs have just gone 2-0 up .
'Arry Redknapp attacking the European champions and reaping the rewards .
Roy Hodgson - look and learn .
02 Nov 2010 21:01:03
02 Nov 2010 20:35:24
£4.5 million does seem like alot for Poulsen now
(( totally agree mate. I think spearing and shelvy are better, plus their both youngsters.
But its not just the transfer fee, its his wages TOO. They would make it 10million+. So all of that wasted on a F* *ing 30 year old, yes 30, who is just sitting on the bench, and is preventing our yougsters playing!
Point made!
Harry5:)
02 Nov 2010 20:49:23
What is it with lfc . it takes 2 and a half years 2 get rid of dumb and dumber .and now it going 2 be the same with roy . i hope not but u can feel it YNWA
02 Nov 2010 20:48:17
There are a few players nearing the end of ther contacts, taiwo, mexes and affellay being 3 greats player who should and im sure will be approached in the next few months. to go out and buy those players mid contract would cost in the region of 40m. the wage bill wud have to be slashed drastically to accommadate these 3 as there wages would be high due to no transfer fee. if those 3 were to be signed, and maybe 30m, plus sales and we could be back in business nxt year. 3 or 4 players would then be needed, sanchez, honda, and banega being first choice. a forward needed yes, but not essential due to kuyt who was a striker before being turned in to a hard working winger. if players create chances for forwards they will score simple. honda would also fit the bill as a forward. we have 3 world class player at the moment, reina, gerrard and torres, 4 very good players johnson(on his day) agger, cole and merieles. to add the 6 players mentioned above with emerging youth would give a very solid balanced squad, small but with alot of quality. a world class gk good attacking fullbacks 2 solid ball playing cbs the best choice of cm in the prem, pacy tricky wingers and deadley forward once his issues have beem ammended and youth, talent one or two game changers on the bench. what do you think ed?
{Editor's note - There will be competion for those free players you mentioned, it would be difficult to get them all, Chelsea, Arsenal and Spurs would still have a better Cm and Arsenal and ManUtd with better wingers.}
02 Nov 2010 20:42:06
Is anyone else sick of Van der vaart free scoring for spurs. He cost no money and we should of got him. After being linked with him every window for a couple of years it sucks to see him doing so well for them.
We need to do better with transfers.
agueroinjanuary
02 Nov 2010 20:38:56
It would be nice if a late in the evening statement came from Anfield stating what everyone LFC fan wants to hear .
Roy hodgson sacked .
Dalglish to take temporary charge .
02 Nov 2010 20:35:24
Can we make it as hostile as poss for the Chelski. . . . . . How can we when most perm tickets go outside Liverpool . Fill the kop with Liverpool post codes and you will get noise every prem game. Am so disappointed going to home games in kop you hear lads going to sing and it's takes a goal for many to open there lungs and sing a song.
I'm From outside of Liverpool and am always actively cheering and shouting !
LFC1
02 Nov 2010 20:35:24
£4.5 million does seem like alot for Poulsen now
02 Nov 2010 20:29:55
Roys Problem
IS that he has a charisma bypass . . . can't deal with the press !
LFC1
02 Nov 2010 20:24:00
Everytime I see Spurs play I cry a little. How on earth did we let Van Der Vaart slip by when we threw 5million at Poulsen instead?
02 Nov 2010 20:22:38
Can we make it as hostile as poss for the Chelski. . . . . . How can we when most perm tickets go outside Liverpool . Fill the kop with Liverpool post codes and you will get noise every prem game. Am so disappointed going to home games in kop you hear lads going to sing and it's takes a goal for many to open there lungs and sing a song.
02 Nov 2010 20:04:21
Raphael Van der Vaart has just scored for Spurs with Modric attacking from centre midfield .
'Arry Redknapp at it again .
02 Nov 2010 19:42:54
It is obvious that RAFA is gutted about being forced out of liverpool, he always wanted to stay and there was more who wanted him to stay than for him to go, BRING RAFA BACK, HE IS THE TRUE SPECIAL ONE, BRING RAFA BACK he misses the club, the fans and everything about liverpool.
are you mad hes one of the reasons were in this mess yeah fair enough he won the champs league but can you remember last season fecking pulling me hair out with his crazy subs he lost the plot selling alonso etc etc its time to move forward new owners new start what do you think ed would you bring rafa back?
king henry
02 Nov 2010 19:41:33
To every one who wants rafa back remember this. . . . . he is like the ex girlfriend that you dumped, you think about her and talk yourself in to thinking things wernt that bad, you think you want her back, so you get back together. then after a week you realised why you dumped her! 6 months ago everyone was calling for rafa to go. but because results havent been great you start to talk yourself in to thinking rafa was a god, but he was the one who put this squad together, he was the one who upset our best player (alonso) to go all out for barry. he was the one who sold all or forwards and signed all the carp. we don't rafa back believe me. do you agree ed? {ed's note - I agree mate, he is not the answer.}
02 Nov 2010 19:31:38
Roy needs to be gone we need a manager to take on chelsea one who attacks instead of sitting back all through 90 mins and says yeah come attack us come try score as many goals as u like, , we need a manager whos gunna balance things attack everychance we get ad defend when needed THEY DO SAY THE BEST FORM OF DEFENCE IS OFFENCE! !
02 Nov 2010 19:17:40
It is obvious that RAFA is gutted about being forced out of liverpool, he always wanted to stay and there was more who wanted him to stay than for him to go, BRING RAFA BACK, HE IS THE TRUE SPECIAL ONE, BRING RAFA BACK he misses the club, the fans and everything about liverpool
02 Nov 2010 18:47:07
We have a saying over here, If your granny had balls she'd be your grandad. It's precisely because we SHOULD have beat B'Pool and didn't, we SHOULD have beat North'ton and didn't, that a clear majority of Liverpool fans want RH out. But I think what hurts the real fans more is not losing on the pitch, (they all know no result is guaranteed) What hurts them, and hurts me is what is going on OFF the pitch with the media. The experience with Woy. .It's like being caught out for a night with an ugly bird, who insists on talking to all your mates. Woy, silence is golden, altho you can tell manure and spuds and chelski to go fock themselves every now and then
With a saying like that I take it your from Gods Country AKA Northern Ireland
02 Nov 2010 18:35:08
Guys
I think maybe we're being hard on Roy. Consider this. .where would we be in the league if the following had happened.
Beat Arsenal (should of)
Draw against Manu (didn't deserve but should of happened)
Beat Blackpool (should of)
= 18 Points = CL Place
We have a saying over here, If your granny had balls she'd be your grandad. It's precisely because we SHOULD have beat B'Pool and didn't, we SHOULD have beat North'ton and didn't, that a clear majority of Liverpool fans want RH out. But I think what hurts the real fans more is not losing on the pitch, (they all know no result is guaranteed) What hurts them, and hurts me is what is going on OFF the pitch with the media. The experience with Woy. .It's like being caught out for a night with an ugly bird, who insists on talking to all your mates. Woy, silence is golden, altho you can tell manure and spuds and chelski to go fock themselves every now and then
02 Nov 2010 18:35:00
02 Nov 2010 15:44:14
We all have our fantsys of who we would like to have in our team but what would your team be of a fantasy past and present liverpool teami will start see if you agree
goal- Ray clemence
rb Phil neil
cb Mark lawrenson
cb Alan hanson
lb jonhn arne riise
lm John barnes
cm Graeham souness
cm Steven gerrard
rm Terry mcdermott
cf Ian rush
am Kenny daglish
subs REINA
Aldridge
Beardsley
P thompson
G byrne
S heighway
T smith
id enjoy seeing them play
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YOU REALLY OUGHT TO INCLUDE FOWLER, EVEN IF ONLY ON THE BENCH. ALSO EMLYN HUGHES IS A MUST TOO.
02 Nov 2010 18:23:27
Guys
I think maybe we're being hard on Roy. Consider this. .where would we be in the league if the following had happened.
Beat Arsenal (should of)
Draw against Manu (didn't deserve but should of happened)
Beat Blackpool (should of)
= 18 Points = CL Place
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All IFS AND BUTS. The key point is we DID NOT do in them matches what we should have therefore we are in this bad position.
You could say that for anyone! If West Ham had beaten this team and this team and that team, they would be top of the league. . . . .but they DIDNT do it.
02 Nov 2010 18:10:24
Beat Arsenal (should of)
Draw against Manu (didn't deserve but should of happened)
Beat Blackpool (should of)
= 18 Points = CL Place
So true!
02 Nov 2010 18:06:38
Some how I just carnt see any news about toys job untill after napoli and the Chelsea rent boys game,
02 Nov 2010 18:05:02
Beat Arsenal (should of)
Draw against Manu (didn't deserve but should of happened)
Beat Blackpool (should of)
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We never did any of that because the Manager and his team were just not up to it .
02 Nov 2010 18:05:01
If Pelligrini becomes new manager of liverpool, I would not be surprised if he invites Ossie Ardiles to be part of his coaching staff. Apparently they are close friends from many years ago.
02 Nov 2010 18:04:12
What would make my christmas is if we buy
arda turan 22
Phillip Lahm 26
Javi Martinez 22
Llorente 25
All would be brilliant additions to the squad, but i guess we have to see if Roy is still here. they would be far too adventurous for him
chris 1
02 Nov 2010 18:02:28
Manuel Pellegrini seems to be the best fit
He has no club .
He worked miracles with Villareal and broke statistical records with Real Madrid (though they finished runner-up)
He played 4-3-1-2 with Villareal - using guile , quality and pace .
Fully deserved his chance to manage Real Madrid and was unlucky to be sacked by Real Madrid .
He has proven himself on budget and also worked well under great pressure .
Such an appointment would certainly bring the excitement back to LFC that Roy Hodgson has slowly poured away .
Comments Ed ? {ed's note - I do agree mate.}
02 Nov 2010 17:56:07
Guys
I think maybe we're being hard on Roy. Consider this. .where would we be in the league if the following had happened.
Beat Arsenal (should of)
Draw against Manu (didn't deserve but should of happened)
Beat Blackpool (should of)
= 18 Points = CL Place
02 Nov 2010 17:48:30
Looking at the LFC squad and with the thought in mind about NESV wanting to sell players to buy players here is my list of players that could leave soon for the better .
Konchesky
Aurelio
Kyrgiakos
Poulsen
Insua
El Zhar
Itandje
and maybe -
Babel
Jovanovic
There are alot of players there and many of them are in the first team and early in there LFC careers .
Jovanovic could become a useful player in due course and Babel may well start to shine for someone oneday .
An overhaul needed - doubtful that Roy Hodgson will implement such change .
What do you think?
02 Nov 2010 17:38:40
Wat all teams has pellegrini managed and has he done well?
02 Nov 2010 17:37:14
I am pretty sure hodgson will be gone by the end of tonight. McKop
02 Nov 2010 17:31:35
Ed who would you buy in jan realistically?
{Editor's Note: A winger and a striker. Marveaux and perhaps Bent if available.}
02 Nov 2010 17:30:53
If united get defour will it make it easier or more realistic that we could get sanchez?
ed whats your thoughts mate ?
{Editor's Note: I see zero chance of Sanchez - as I say everyday.}
02 Nov 2010 17:29:47
Is roy hodgson takin the piss? swp again i hear hes after
ed please tell me that it isn't true
{Editor's Note: You never know.}
02 Nov 2010 17:21:41
Roy Hodgson to be sacked SSN are hinting that he is going to go. Blair, hope your happy. Look what you've done.
02 Nov 2010 17:15:14
02 Nov 2010 16:53:19
Reina
Johnson Carragher Skrtel Konchesky/ Coentrao
Gerrard
Cole Honda Afellay
Dempsey Torres
what do you think bout this lineup ed? {ed's note - a huge improvement on our current one!}
- Ed, you think we could get these players by jan or summer? and how much do you think would they cost? not much that im sure of :D
YNWA
{Editor's Note: They are all possibles - but you have to remember that they have to want to come to Liverpool and their clubs would have to want to sell them, and certainly Coentrao would entail a bidding war. So these four players could easly end up costing £35M.}
02 Nov 2010 17:14:55
In jan we should by lamh for left back benaga and mata and lopez
lamh £25m
benaga £15m
mata £15m
lopez £20
total 75m
then the team would look like this:
renia
jonson cara agger lamh
Meireles benaga gerrard mata
torres lopez
if nesv gave us £60m to spend plus sell all of the deadwood like bable this would be possoble and we would chalange for trophys again
ynwa
dw
02 Nov 2010 17:05:40
02 Nov 2010 16:35:04
Ed when i click on Unbelievable or believable. . .it gives the error "There was a problem with the request". . .
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{EDitor's Note: So you're telling me you have broken the web site. You must be much gentler with the buttons.}
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It's the MANC's ED! They have brought a virus with them.
What were you MANC'S told? Wash your hands before you come on to this great site.
LONG LIVE THE GLAZERS!
Blair Mayne YNWA
02 Nov 2010 17:03:12
To Blair and Bob
I'm not saying he would be my 1st choice striker Bob i just don't think he's as bad as some people are making out.
For me Pacheco should be starting behind Torres but i havn't seen him in a while. Don't know what's happened to him. And once Kuyt got injured for Holland i posted on here and said IF Roy is going to play Johnson RB then this is a chance for Amoo to play RW. But it's Roy Hodgson who's in charge and probably feels that Amoo is to attack minded.
Blair Mayne YNWA
Been following your debate reagrding ngog, and you both make very good points,
What would make sense is for us to play 442, it will relieve a lot of the pressure from torres. Personally i don't mind ngog. yes he isn't our top stricker but he does work hard. look at the difference once he came on at bolton. the team had to change and this freed up the forwards.
I have a real problem with babel. he came with so much promise but every time i have seen him live he just seems lazy. its just a waste of talent really.
I have no idea why
pacheco doesn't get game time. i would love to see him more involved.
chris 1
02 Nov 2010 17:01:22
Babel has played 33 minutes of Premier League football this season . Is RH ever going to experiment with his new squad ?
02 Nov 2010 16:59:28
I remeber at the start in pre-season when the world cup players were on holiday and Hodgson was taking the reserves on tour and using them in the Europa qualifying games , it looked like they would get more chances than they have thus far (granted Kelly has played in the first team) .
The trouble roy has is if he trys to play reserves in a losing first team they could all founder . It is up to the first team to create a winning side that young players can take part in without the pressure .
P.S - ED how is it you guys can run this site all day ? {ed's note - because I am lucky enough to have a job that puts me on a comp all day anyway and I work for myself.}
02 Nov 2010 16:56:40
Cheers for the reply Blair, You make some good points, he does work hard and maybe if babel worked as hard he might stand a better chance of playing. Ngog is certainly more interested in football than Babel which is a shame cos I thought Babel was going to be very good for LFC and sometimes you see that spark of something but ultimatley its too far between to warant keeping him and that is being very generous. I used to blame rafa for not using him right but Roy is clearly of the same opinion as he dosent like him either. I do think thought that having someone on the pitch upfront with a bit of pace weather it be Ngog, Jovanovich or Babel would help Torres a lot as clever running would drag defenders in a different direction and free up space for Torres. Back to Ngog its not that im saying get rid but In my opinion he is and should be a long way off first team football at any team who has ambitions to compete in the EPL. I am also dissapointed at the amount of time he is given on the pitch compared to other youngsters like pacheco, if Nog desrves that kin of chance then surely Pacheco does to and the same goes for Amoo. It can't be the reason that the prem is to physical as Ngog seems as light weight as they come.
Bob Loblaw
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I'm not saying he would be my 1st choice striker Bob i just don't think he's as bad as some people are making out.
For me Pacheco should be starting behind Torres but i havn't seen him in a while. Don't know what's happened to him. And once Kuyt got injured for Holland i posted on here and said IF Roy is going to play Johnson RB then this is a chance for Amoo to play RW. But it's Roy Hodgson who's in charge and probably feels that Amoo is to attack minded.
Blair Mayne YNWA
Cheers for the reply Blair, You make some good points, he does work hard and maybe if babel worked as hard he might stand a better chance of playing. Ngog is certainly more interested in football than Babel which is a shame cos I thought Babel was going to be very good for LFC and sometimes you see that spark of something but ultimatley its too far between to warant keeping him and that is being very generous. I used to blame rafa for not using him right but Roy is clearly of the same opinion as he dosent like him either. I do think thought that having someone on the pitch upfront with a bit of pace weather it be Ngog, Jovanovich or Babel would help Torres a lot as clever running would drag defenders in a different direction and free up space for Torres. Back to Ngog its not that im saying get rid but In my opinion he is and should be a long way off first team football at any team who has ambitions to compete in the EPL. I am also dissapointed at the amount of time he is given on the pitch compared to other youngsters like pacheco, if Nog desrves that kin of chance then surely Pacheco does to and the same goes for Amoo. It can't be the reason that the prem is to physical as Ngog seems as light weight as they come.
Bob Loblaw
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I'm not saying he would be my 1st choice striker Bob i just don't think he's as bad as some people are making out.
For me Pacheco should be starting behind Torres but i havn't seen him in a while. Don't know what's happened to him. And once Kuyt got injured for Holland i posted on here and said IF Roy is going to play Johnson RB then this is a chance for Amoo to play RW. But it's Roy Hodgson who's in charge and probably feels that Amoo is to attack minded.
Blair Mayne YNWA
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I agree with you Blair, I don't think he is as as bad as peolpe have made out and on a match day I am Ngog's worst critic. I think the reason for the heavy crticism is pure frustration. As for Pacheco my mate saw him in Chester last night shopping but that's the first sighting of him in a while which is dissapointing as he should get a chance behind Torres. I agree on the Amoo front to mate, I honestly thopught Roy might of given these lads a chance, maybe there not good enough in training or something but I do think that if Pacheco dosent start to get a chance soon he will look to leave.
Bob Loblaw
02 Nov 2010 16:53:20
02 Nov 2010 15:27:55
So its down to Chelsea to help you AGAIN! first a Chelsea fan helps get you good new owners, now a Chelsea team will beat you so badly on sunday, your new owners will have to sack Woy.
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Fingers crossed! That's what most of us want Roy sacked.
Blair Mayne YNWA
PS. I know that Silver that's why i said great post.
02 Nov 2010 16:52:56
Re : My prediction for the season: Liverpool to finish 5th.
(1.Chelsea, 2.Arsenal 3.Man Utd. 4. Man City) And Roy starts next season as manager
LFC have an excellent chance to finish above city , City are disjointed and falling apart . A decent LFC manager would have us finishing above them , I think it is SPURS that have the most potential right now . They might even finish above Arsenal .
Hopefully we can draw city in the EUROPA cup sometime this season and beat them properly .
02 Nov 2010 16:47:35
Cheers for the reply Blair, You make some good points, he does work hard and maybe if babel worked as hard he might stand a better chance of playing. Ngog is certainly more interested in football than Babel which is a shame cos I thought Babel was going to be very good for LFC and sometimes you see that spark of something but ultimatley its too far between to warant keeping him and that is being very generous. I used to blame rafa for not using him right but Roy is clearly of the same opinion as he dosent like him either. I do think thought that having someone on the pitch upfront with a bit of pace weather it be Ngog, Jovanovich or Babel would help Torres a lot as clever running would drag defenders in a different direction and free up space for Torres. Back to Ngog its not that im saying get rid but In my opinion he is and should be a long way off first team football at any team who has ambitions to compete in the EPL. I am also dissapointed at the amount of time he is given on the pitch compared to other youngsters like pacheco, if Nog desrves that kin of chance then surely Pacheco does to and the same goes for Amoo. It can't be the reason that the prem is to physical as Ngog seems as light weight as they come.
Bob Loblaw
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I'm not saying he would be my 1st choice striker Bob i just don't think he's as bad as some people are making out.
For me Pacheco should be starting behind Torres but i havn't seen him in a while. Don't know what's happened to him. And once Kuyt got injured for Holland i posted on here and said IF Roy is going to play Johnson RB then this is a chance for Amoo to play RW. But it's Roy Hodgson who's in charge and probably feels that Amoo is to attack minded.
Blair Mayne YNWA
02 Nov 2010 16:42:14
I said a while ago (before the two victories) that Roy was to stay until the end of the season and I stand by it. It is easy to understand that NESV will not fire him until they have evaluated his work over a long period of time. Business wise, the sensible thing to do is to let the man prove his worth or let him hang himself. Now, if Roy is a smart man, he needs to understand that Torres does not want to play alone up top anymore. Anyone who suggests he does (previous post) does not understand the psychology of a striker. No-one likes to be alone in front, there's just no way you can look good unless the defense messes up. Ask Mulumbu how much fun he had last night. When Ngog came in against Bolton, Torres looked much better because David took a lot of attention away from him. I suspect Torres associates his injuries with the fact he is alone against four defenders and gets kicked around too often. He is loyal, there's no doubt about that; but the current formation frustrates him. His magical season alone up front was a fluke (Gerrard was pretty much playing as a second striker). Speaking of Gerrard, is he not the last GREAT right mid Liverpool have had in recent years? Can he put his ego on the side and play where he is most useful to the team? Poor Meireles will NOT look good as long as he is asked to switch to the right to accomodate Stevie G. If Roy switches to a 4-4-2 until January (and potential reinforcements) his job is safe for at least a year. Also, Carragher is indeed finished and has a tendency of deflecting blame (Arbeloa) which will rub most players the wrong way. My picks for January transfers:
Llorente (Lopez and Hulk as alternates)
Marin (Mata if available)
Elia Eljaro (send Babel in return)
My prediction for the season: Liverpool to finish 5th.
(1.Chelsea, 2.Arsenal 3.Man Utd. 4. Man City) And Roy starts next season as manager.
02 Nov 2010 16:40:55
Resign mikey owen for 2 million . bring him home in jan
02 Nov 2010 16:40:40
Just to add too
. . . . .genuine question!. . . who was the genius at Real who decided that Sneider, Robben and Van der Varrt where not good enough to keep? {ed's note - I believe that was the club president who made the decision.}
Who was the genius that didn't ask real 'desperate for Alonso and need to off load players' madrid for
Sneider, Robben and Van der Varrt. . I am still p* *ed off about this.
02 Nov 2010 16:39:33
I think the the is with Ngog is that he was only brought for £1million which in today's Market is peanuts. For the short space of time he has improved considerably but he could never be a second choice striker unless he gets a nasty streak & a killer intinct to his game. Ngog only has a place at Liverpool if we had possibly another 2 good strikers At the club, then he be played as a sub, League cup, easy FA cup or when it is needed to rest players.
The Irish Rover
02 Nov 2010 16:36:49
02 Nov 2010 16:29:26
Support roy hodgson, he is our manager full stop and if our top players don't like it sell them and buy new ones .
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erm. .excuse me for saying but if roy can't get the present squad to even play attractive flowing football, what makes you think he will do any better with "new ones"
He would probably only buy rubbish anyway
chris 1
02 Nov 2010 16:36:34
(Expensive in this case is £15m+.I think most would agree that any signing lower than this is always a much more bigger risk)
At over and above £17m each, Fernando Torres, Javier Mascherano, Alberto Aquilani and Glen Johnson qualify as Rafa's expensive signings.
The first two can certainly be deemed as successes, with Johnson, despite his defensive frailties (an issue which can dealt with fairly easily), has been a handy addition.
As for Aquilani, he didn't play enough games to be deemed either a success or flop.However, from what little many saw of him, consensus was that the lad was the part.Unfortunately, he was shipped out, depriving him the opportunity to show us what he could do.
So, when Hodgson refers to "some expensive flops", who are they?Who are those "expensive flops" Benitez bought?
When you look at our 1st team, you'll find that Pepe, Agger, Maxi, Kuyt, Lucas, Skrtel, Ngog, Soto all cost well under £15m, with a couple of them being successes and some getting there.
So, who are "expensive flops" there, huh?
You know, I find it appallingly rich that a man who brought in two glaringly mediocre 29-30 year old players in Poulsen&Konchesky for £7m-£8m and two highly promising youngsters would presume to be the judge of quality.
How the hell do you offload Aquilani, Insua and two bright youth, replace them with Konchesky and Poulsen (add to that £8m) and then slander Benitez's transfer dealings?HOW?
People keep saying "Roy inherited a poor team". .that "it's going to be difficult for him".A poor team?Really?
Well, isn't this virtually the same that Benitez was supposed to lead to prem glory last season;the same team that he got sacked for failing to lead to the top 4?
Now this team is "poor". .all of a sudden. .because it cannot bring itself to think midtable, play midtable, and react midtable, huh?
This team is "poor" because it cannot implement Hodgson's 35 years' worth of methods. .which took him Malmo, Sweden, Switz, Inter, Blackburn, Fulham?
You know, I wonder where Hodgson got this "nice, honourable guy" tag from, really.For me, the man's an apse-licker who puts himself above anyone else and will do anything cover his own ass and make himself out to be the good, innocent guy, the victim.This even at the expense of his own players.
In this whole debacle (thanks to him in large part), look at how he's always rushed primarily defend his own ass at the expense of the players and Benitez;the way he's sought to try and not upset his Swum friends.Arg!its disgusting!
I don't him;I don't respect him.Each time I see him in our dugout;hear him talk about Liverpool. .the more he disgusts me;the more he enrages me;the more I despise him. .the more I want to grab him, strip him off , and throw his dumb ass out of Anfield.
Oh, Blair, the reason I quoted Shanks in me post yesterday was to remind everyone what a Liverpool manager, and a person in general, is.And Hodgson isn't Liverpool. .Rafa also did his part in saying as much last night.
Christ!I don't know what I'll do if NESV sticks with him.But I'll stand by my earlier post that he'll be GONE after the Abramovich game.
Brought in to "steady the ship", but can't even manipulate the bloody controls. .pathetic.
Keep The Faith
Silver Song
02 Nov 2010 16:35:58
02 Nov 2010 16:25:43
. . . . .genuine question!. . . who was the genius at Real who decided that Sneider, Robben and Van der Varrt where not good enough to keep? {ed's note - I believe that was the club president who made the decision.}
it was the president who decided, he decides most of the transfers , just like barcalonas president, so get the facts right before you say things like that,
YNWA
. . . just because you seem to have a problem reading full sentances, I actually asked a question rather than said ''things like that''. . . . your a bit hot headed. . .did you go to school with J. Barton? ?
02 Nov 2010 16:29:26
Support roy hodgson, he is our manager full stop and if our top players don't like it sell them and buy new ones .
02 Nov 2010 16:29:01
Ed or Eds - Just wanted your opinion(s) on what you think abvout Babel and why he has never been given a good run of games playing up front either by himself or with Torres.
I agree totally that he comes across as a whingy brat and often looks disinterested by I think he is a bit of an Anelka type player that if he found form and a settled environment where he could thrive then could be very good. I just don't understnad why Ngog is picked ahead of him and why when he is given a game he is played out wide.
Your views would be most welcome
{Editor's Note: There is a risk with running with a player who is not performing - and I guess neither manager felt the risk is worth taking. I think he will flourish elsewhere.}
02 Nov 2010 16:26:54
It seem's all the Evertonions and Man U fans want Hodgson to stay
02 Nov 2010 16:22:14
{ed's note - I don't feel Roy has the right approach to get the most from any threat we do have.}
Again excellent point and well put .
I think we are all feeling the same about RH . If he actually managed to turn the season around and get to the top four it would unbelievable . {ed's note - I would be happy if he would just look like getting the team playing well and attacking with style.}
02 Nov 2010 16:19:18
Carlton cole is a much better player than ngog. maybe that manc is right blair .stay off the smoke
02 Nov 2010 16:17:12
I think a decent open minded manager would see that Gerrard and meireles can work in the midfield with Lucas a fine deputy for either player - attacking or containing .
'Arry Redknapp went to UTD on saturday with 4-4-2 and a midfield pairing of Jenas and Modric with out and out pace - Bale and Lennon on the wings .
When will we have a manager as brave and creative as that ?
Roy Hodgson ought to know better .
02 Nov 2010 16:07:28
Is there anybody same opinion as me that Raul Meireles is going to be a fantastic player for lfc?"
Completely agree. He has the potential to shine if the balance in the midfield can be found. Right now he's playing a constrained role which isn't his style.
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Good point he is looking good and can improve , but it is fair to say that every player in the team is "playing in a constrained role" which is not LFC's style .
02 Nov 2010 16:05:58
Dear John Henry
Firstly, let me place on record my thanks for divesting this wonderful club of two of the most morally corrupt businessmen to have graced our shores. You should be applauded for the way you have conducted yourself.
I would like to take this opportunity to express my heartfelt dismay at the way the manager is positioning this once great club to become nothing more than mediorce at best. He is displaying a lamentable lack of understanding of the traditions of the way this club plays its football. We have a long and proud heritage which is being dismantled by the actions of (although likeable and decent) a man who exibits all the attributes of a person who is out of his depth.
He inherited a group of players who had the potential to perform on a much higher level than that which is being displayed at the present time. Whilst i appreciate there may be an element of the players taking some resonsibility for this I feel the manager has in efect instigated a regime of football which is anathema to the great majority of football supporters.
I urge you to seriously consider replacing the manager, I can accept the disruption any new incumbant may incur whilst he takes time to analyse the way forward. However i feel it would be a mistake of the highest magnitude to allow Mr Hodgson to be allowed to waste whatever transfer funds you may make available. He has shown a lamentable lack of judgement in his dealings with the players we have at present, his recent buys are hardly setting the world alight. His somewhat misguided dealings with the press are making this club a laughing stock.
Liverpool football club needs reorganising, you have already started this process at board level, please don't wait until things become even more dire on the playing side than they already are.
I thank you for your patience. the time for action is now. not in the summer when it shall be too late
chris 1
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ok rant over. i don't expect john henry to actually read it but it made me feel better
02 Nov 2010 16:05:13
{ed's note - they don't have to entrust him with transfers, they could use the continental system and use someone else to pick the players, leaving Roy to just miscoach er I mean coach the players.}
I like the humour .
The idea of a crack team signing the players appeals if the funds are their to invest in team , long and short term . The requirements are clear - Creativity and pace .
Will we ever have a team that carries such a threat to the opposition . {ed's note - I don't feel Roy has the right approach to get the most from any threat we do have.}
02 Nov 2010 16:02:58
I'm i the only one who like's Ngog?
Blair (lonely pint) Mayne YNWA
Can you please state your reasons for likeing him, this is not a srcastic comment i am just curious.
Bob Loblaw
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We all know he's not world class but he's got 7 goals already. I know most of them in the Europa League but 7 goals isn't bad. Considering the negative tactics Roy's using it's a miracle we've scored any goals. When he comes on as sub he seems to open up more space for other players around him i.e bringing defenders out wide with his runs, holding the ball up well, not bad in the air and obviously can score a goal or 7. And the service to any of our strikers has been non-exsistent.
I just see a lot of posts on here slagging Ngog off but for me has done a good job when called upon. Di Matteo tried and failed on a number of occasions to get Ngog on loan so Di Matteo see's somthing good with the lad.
Blair Mayne YNWA
Cheers for the reply Blair, You make some good points, he does work hard and maybe if babel worked as hard he might stand a better chance of playing. Ngog is certainly more interested in football than Babel which is a shame cos I thought Babel was going to be very good for LFC and sometimes you see that spark of something but ultimatley its too far between to warant keeping him and that is being very generous. I used to blame rafa for not using him right but Roy is clearly of the same opinion as he dosent like him either. I do think thought that having someone on the pitch upfront with a bit of pace weather it be Ngog, Jovanovich or Babel would help Torres a lot as clever running would drag defenders in a different direction and free up space for Torres. Back to Ngog its not that im saying get rid but In my opinion he is and should be a long way off first team football at any team who has ambitions to compete in the EPL. I am also dissapointed at the amount of time he is given on the pitch compared to other youngsters like pacheco, if Nog desrves that kin of chance then surely Pacheco does to and the same goes for Amoo. It can't be the reason that the prem is to physical as Ngog seems as light weight as they come.
Bob Loblaw
02 Nov 2010 15:59:05
RE: I truely beleive that after we finished 2nd we needed 3 players to win the league
Reina
Arbeloa Agger Skrtel Coentrao
Sanchez Alonso Mascherano Mata
Gerrard
Torres
It is an excellent suggestion , your team is balanced with pace and not too little bravery . The one thing LFC lack and seem scared to introduce is 'PACE' every modern team needs it in abundance yet our attacking intent is bereft of it . I like Kuyt and hopefully Maxi can continue to enjoy himself but only Babel offers any real pace in support of Torres .
I often think I would like to see Babel given a run in the side alongside Torres in a 4-4-2 formation , only for the fact that he is the only one with out and out pace . Pace worries the opposition , Nani at UTD has a perofrmance level now that he never had when he joined them , but he has been given time , encouragement and licence to play and is now capable of extraordinary 'confident' play .
The forwards lead the line and have a responsibility to take chances , score goals . The rest of the team have to take responsibility for creating those chances and developing creatively a level of performance .
There is so much missing from LFC at the moment .
02 Nov 2010 15:58:39
Ed; was there a problem with the open letter to john henry i posted, its ok if there was i completly understand
chris 1 {ed's note - the open letter? I haven't seen that, either one of the other editors dealt with it or you had something in there that stopped it from getting through. There are a number of blocks we have in place to stop spam from reaching us, including anyone posting a message including http:// and cyrillic lettering being filtered out. If your post contained either of those our filter would just delete them sorry.}
02 Nov 2010 15:46:12
"02 Nov 2010 15:20:18
Is there anybody same opinion as me that Raul Meireles is going to be a fantastic player for lfc?"
Completely agree. He has the potential to shine if the balance in the midfield can be found. Right now he's playing a constrained role which isn't his style.
02 Nov 2010 15:44:14
We all have our fantsys of who we would like to have in our team but what would your team be of a fantasy past and present liverpool teami will start see if you agree
goal- Ray clemence
rb Phil neil
cb Mark lawrenson
cb Alan hanson
lb jonhn arne riise
lm John barnes
cm Graeham souness
cm Steven gerrard
rm Terry mcdermott
cf Ian rush
am Kenny daglish
subs REINA
Aldridge
Beardsley
P thompson
G byrne
S heighway
T smith
id enjoy seeing them play
02 Nov 2010 15:39:33
"02 Nov 2010 14:51:22
Liverpool FC, will struggle all season, the reason why is you the fans, they have created so much fear in them, that they are scared to be the one that makes the mistake, look at gomes at spurs on the week-end, but he got forgiven, could you forgive certain players for a mistake, yes but only the chosen ones, the rest you would slated the hell out of, that's an injustice to your own players, how would you feel if at work some one made a mistake and got let off, then you make one and get slated, telling somebody they are crap all the time is demoralising, the old saying goesif you don't have anything decent to say, say nothing, constructive critism is a blessing some of your players are crying out for, if only to level the injustice you have heaped on them, and Chelsea are going to slauter you at the weekend, becuase they play without fear of a fans backlash."
(1) Gomes was not forgiven, Spurs fans have just shifted the blame to the ref rather than admitting their keeper was totally at fault.
(2) If Chelsea do slaughter us it will not be because their players aren't afraid of their fans (they rival Villa for biggest populace of moaners) but because they have had steady investment for years (beyond their profits) and a world class manager.
We have some poor players and it is our right as paying fans to say so in pubs, chat rooms or wherever. If a highly paid professional overhears this then i'm sure they can dab their eyes with 50s if they're so delicate. I've yet to hear of one example of a player being traumatised by a few fans' comments online - so long as we don't single out a player to boo at games then i don't see the harm.
02 Nov 2010 15:28:30
{ed's note - I don't believe that any man who thinks a point against Everton would be a good point or that a terrible performance against Bolton which led to a lucky win is 'an historic victory' deserves to keep his job.}
It is a good honest answer , however if NESV keep him , with the team needing reinforcements now , he would be the one with the transfer kitty . . . that would not make any sense right now . {ed's note - they don't have to entrust him with transfers, they could use the continental system and use someone else to pick the players, leaving Roy to just miscoach er I mean coach the players.}
02 Nov 2010 15:27:55
So its down to Chelsea to help you AGAIN! first a Chelsea fan helps get you good new owners, now a Chelsea team will beat you so badly on sunday, your new owners will have to sack Woy.
02 Nov 2010 15:24:26
I truely beleive that after we finished 2nd we needed 3 players to win the league
Reina
Arbeloa Agger Skrtel Coentrao
Sanchez Alonso Mascherano Mata
Gerrard
Torres
02 Nov 2010 15:23:06
Lucas Leiva was statistically in the Premier League top 5 of passing and the PL top 5 for tackling last season , we should not be criticising a player of that calibre , particularly now .
Also , Gerrard had the most assists for LFC last season - 7 assists , the next best was Aquilani with 6 assist , that says something , Aquilani played only 18 PL games last season and was substituted many times as he was returning to fitness . Benayoun was next with 5 assists and both Aqua and Yossi are gone this year .
Lampard had 17 assists last season , Fabregas 15 and even MIlner had 12 assists .
Not only did we lack good creativity last season but we lack even more this season (Torres has assisted 4 league goals this season , he is clearly doing something that his team mates aren't) even Chris brunt has 6 assists this season already , with Gerrard and Kuyt on 2 a piece (Joe Cole has 1 assist) .
This has got to improve drastically if the team is in anyway going to improve on last season .
Good Site - only recently found it and find it has kept me informed of quite a few club developments and possible transfers .
02 Nov 2010 15:20:18
Is there anybody same opinion as me that Raul Meireles is going to be a fantastic player for lfc?
02 Nov 2010 15:16:44
So on a scale of 1 to 10 how confident are you of beating chelsea at the weekend?
1? 2 at best? Sad state of affairs isn't it.
You have to wait for the reply you idiot
I would say errr an 8 or 9 so not a sad state of afairs is it?
How confident are we that the mancs will always be £750 million in debt, VERY
How confident are we that Everton are a small team VERY
YNWA
02 Nov 2010 15:14:56
My God I thought I had come onto the wrong website just now, all of this common sense about Ngog and Lucas being half decent and improving all the time and then the posting below pops up and brings me back to reality, Ed can we pass some sort of intellegence test before posting on here as I`m sure most posters are on soemthing or are sheep.! 02 Nov 2010 14:21:27
Ngog is a disaster of a player. sell him
02 Nov 2010 15:12:08
Everyone states the best football we last played was under roy evans well infact if you remember when houlier was hospitalised with his heart trouble phil thompson run the team check out his results when he was in charge and his passion for the club surely we must have a place for him at the club he has a better record than sammy lee/
jimbo
02 Nov 2010 15:10:15
Its alright Hodgson moaning about Rafa's expensive failures at Liverpool.
Afterall he is one of the clubs expensive failures, but no one can blame RAFA for this one
rasone
02 Nov 2010 15:09:48
02 Nov 2010 15:05:41
Chelsea will win by 2 goals on sunday
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Thanks for the tip Roy! And could you please keep your stupid comments for after the defeat on Sunday.
Blair Mayne YNWA
02 Nov 2010 15:07:59
To the person who wants to give babel and 15mil for andy carroll, stop posting and stop watching football, we would have suarez or Llorente for thant kind of money
02 Nov 2010 15:07:13
Ed, ivica olic is a player who wasnt mentioned, hes a very good player and would be good for us. .
another is michel bastos, these 2 would be great if we could get them, ,
02 Nov 2010 15:06:57
There's no doubt that i'd rather have Ngog than Carlton Cole who Roy tried to buy for 10-12 mill.
Blair Mayne YNWA
02 Nov 2010 15:05:41
Chelsea will win by 2 goals on sunday
02 Nov 2010 14:58:33
Can anyone actually remember the last time lucas had a bad game?
02 Nov 2010 14:54:07
N'Gog had the physique of Djimi Traore when he arrived , now he looks alot more able to compete with power and pace .
02 Nov 2010 14:53:44
So on a scale of 1 to 10 how confident are you of beating chelsea at the weekend?
1? 2 at best? Sad state of affairs isn't it.
02 Nov 2010 14:51:48
Ngog should be a 4th choice striker at a club like LFC , he was purchased for £1 million aged 19 , stands 6ft 2" with good pace and has improved his physique and strength incredibly during 2010 . Pity he is not being introduced into a winning team like young LFC strikers of the past , there is clearly too much pressure on him at the moment . We are lucky that he stayed with us this season (WBA wanted him on loan) . We have only scored 23 goals in 18 games this season and N'Gog has 7 of those goals . . deserves a chance in the absence of better strikers and is worth keeping in the squad when we do improve the playing personnel (his wages being moderately low) . I thought he was signed only as a inexpensive potential 'supersub' anyway .
02 Nov 2010 14:51:22
Liverpool FC, will struggle all season, the reason why is you the fans, they have created so much fear in them, that they are scared to be the one that makes the mistake, look at gomes at spurs on the week-end, but he got forgiven, could you forgive certain players for a mistake, yes but only the chosen ones, the rest you would slated the hell out of, thats an injustice to your own players, how would you feel if at work some one made a mistake and got let off, then you make one and get slated, telling somebody they are crap all the time is demoralising, the old saying goesif you don't have anything decent to say, say nothing, constructive critism is a blessing some of your players are crying out for, if only to level the injustice you have heaped on them, and Chelsea are going to slauter you at the weekend, becuase they play without fear of a fans backlash.
02 Nov 2010 14:49:48
02 Nov 2010 14:33:19
Like i thought i am the only one who likes Ngog! lol
Blair Mayne YNWA
(( i like ngog. His hold up play is really good for someone so young and lightweight. If he beefs up a bit just like zamora did, he'll be a very good player. Hes only gunna improve. And he puts in a very decent shift when asked to play
Harry5;)
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Thanks Harry5 i'll send that £10 cheque out to you mate.
Do you think he's as bad as most people make out ED?
Blair Mayne YNWA {ed's note - I just think he lacks a killer instinct, he is too laid back.}
02 Nov 2010 14:44:43
02 Nov 2010 14:33:19
Like i thought i am the only one who likes Ngog! lol
Blair Mayne YNWA
(( i like ngog. His hold up play is really good for someone so young and lightweight. If he beefs up a bit just like zamora did, he'll be a very good player. Hes only gunna improve. And he puts in a very decent shift when asked to play
Harry5;)
02 Nov 2010 14:33:19
Like i thought i am the only one who likes Ngog! lol
Blair Mayne YNWA
02 Nov 2010 14:33:03
TODAY IS MY BIRTHDAY!
2/ 11/ 1991
I HOPE THAT LIVERPOOL WILL RETURN THE GLORY DAYS
MY WISHES;
1-GET RID OF ROY
2-SINGING WITH TOP TALENT PLAYERS AS
A:EDEN HAZERD
B:ARDA TURAN
C:IBRAHIM AFELLAY
D:STEVEN DUFOUR
E;MEXISIS
ROY LET AQUALNI TO GO AS LOAN TO JUVENTS
HE LEAVE BECOZ HE KNEW THAT HE WON'T PLAY
ROY LOVES OLD PLAYERS TOO MUCH
& THE EVIDENCE THAT HE SIGN POULSON , , KONCHESKY, , & HE WANTS TO SIGN SHAUN WRIGHT PHLIPHS
ROY CAN'T BE OUR HERO
THE DAYS WILL ASSURE THAT TO THE ALL! {ed's note - happy birthday mate, I hope you have a great day.}
02 Nov 2010 14:24:46
I'm i the only one who like's Ngog?
Blair (lonely pint) Mayne YNWA
Blair I want to like Ngog the problem is. .his first touch is awful. .he goes missing a lot in games and he can't hit a barn door. .he is so eratic in front of goal. The worrying point to all this is. .he's our top goal scorer this season!
02 Nov 2010 14:22:16
ED can you believe that Rednapp?
Who does he think he is threatening the FA?
The sad bit about it mate is that h*ck all will happen to him. When he gets away with his threats to the FA it will open the flood gates for all the managers to treat the FA with utter contempt (which they have for a while).
Blair Mayne YNWA
{Editor's Note: I wouldn't worry about it.}
02 Nov 2010 14:22:08
Thoughts on Cassano as bit of extra quality and fun in the attack , if he enjoyed himself and scored a few goals , we would have a excellent front 2 in a 4-4-2 formation . I would love to see LFC succeding with 2 strikers again , the team looks much more dangerous when the ball goes forward and there are 2 forwards imposing themselves against the back line , Gerrard attcking from centre midfield i.e Terry Mcdermott and John Wark , even with Meireles alongside Gerrard the midfield can still be very well balanced . I think if an 'Arry Redknapp was in charge he would pair SG with RM playing 4-4-2 and get some real rythm going .
I wondered when RH took charge wether he would put hte team out to attack and become quite romantic with his methods , maybe a 4-3-1-2 with Cole in the hole behind 2 strikers , but now I think he is giving himself a pat on the back when he does not lose a game .
02 Nov 2010 14:21:27
Ngog is a disaster of a player. sell him
02 Nov 2010 14:17:31
02 Nov 2010 13:52:54
Were are people getting the idea that we shud be getting rid off nando and stevie? its total bulls* t. .
them 2 along with pepe reina hav been our only 2 consistend performers over the last 2-3 years.
we should be talking about building a team around them not getting rid of them. .
i hav no source but have a strong feeling hodgson will be gone at the turn of the year, he should go to a team more suited 2 his tactics. .
roy evans was the last manager who had us playing good attacking football so we should get somebody with that style, pellegrini, rijkaard, o'neill. .
what you think ed?
jay b - - - YNWA {ed's note - O'Neill? He plays long ball not good attacking football, I would rather stick with Hodgson than bring him in to completely destroy the club.}
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WELL SAID ed.
02 Nov 2010 14:13:29
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02 Nov 2010 13:57:53
I'm i the only one who like's Ngog?
Blair (lonely pint) Mayne YNWA
Can you please state your reasons for likeing him, this is not a srcastic comment i am just curious.
Bob Loblaw
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We all know he's not world class but he's got 7 goals already. I know most of them in the Europa League but 7 goals isn't bad. Considering the negative tactics Roy's using it's a miracle we've scored any goals. When he comes on as sub he seems to open up more space for other players around him i.e bringing defenders out wide with his runs, holding the ball up well, not bad in the air and obviously can score a goal or 7. And the service to any of our strikers has been non-exsistent.
I just see a lot of posts on here slagging Ngog off but for me has done a good job when called upon. Di Matteo tried and failed on a number of occasions to get Ngog on loan so Di Matteo see's somthing good with the lad.
Blair Mayne YNWA
02 Nov 2010 14:13:17
Something you heard twenty years ago blair , around the same time your club did anything of note in england. time flys when your winning things . then again id say they are dragging for you . light up another one and give us another mental hopefull rant , great fun .
02 Nov 2010 14:13:00
Has Clueless done the honourable thing yet ?
I was never Rafa's biggest fan but he does have a
point . When did we last have a manager that was a decent judge of a player's ability ?
Dalglish , I suppose , still at least I can offset the cost of my season ticket thinking about the skills of Cole , Poulsen , Konchesky - - I know some park teams that they wouldn't get a game for! !
02 Nov 2010 14:03:51
There was a time when LFC had there pick of the playing talent , now we are linked withthe like of Wright-Phillips , Carlton Cole , Luke Young etc. .
Somebody has to step in and start making top class intelligent signings that make an immediate positive impact to the team 'big time signings' . . note Raphael Van der Vaart at spurs .
Something has to done to make sure that new signings are going to feared the opposition , either by stature . . Fernando Torres , or by impact Pepe Riena .
NESV should get LFC back to business by the end of the season and let us supporters get back to just enjoying LFC .
02 Nov 2010 13:57:53
I'm i the only one who like's Ngog?
Blair (lonely pint) Mayne YNWA
Can you please state your reasons for likeing him, this is not a srcastic comment i am just curious.
Bob Loblaw
02 Nov 2010 13:52:54
Were are people getting the idea that we shud be getting rid off nando and stevie? its total bulls* t. .
them 2 along with pepe reina hav been our only 2 consistend performers over the last 2-3 years.
we should be talking about building a team around them not getting rid of them. .
i hav no source but have a strong feeling hodgson will be gone at the turn of the year, he should go to a team more suited 2 his tactics. .
roy evans was the last manager who had us playing good attacking football so we should get somebody with that style, pellegrini, rijkaard, o'neill. .
what you think ed?
jay b - - - YNWA {ed's note - O'Neill? He plays long ball not good attacking football, I would rather stick with Hodgson than bring him in to completely destroy the club.}
02 Nov 2010 13:50:30
I'm i the only one who like's Ngog?
Blair (lonely pint) Mayne YNWA
02 Nov 2010 13:47:00
How can Super Roy go on about Benitez's signings when his own signings haven't exactly been great. We could have kept Insua and put the money of Konchesky and Poulsen to buy Van der Vaart. With him we would probably be in the top 4!
I know having more English players would be great, but most of them are not good enough to challenge for top 4, esp. SWP and Carlton Cole. Why do you think Rafa never looked at English players?
02 Nov 2010 13:38:18
Is it me or could we get Theo Walcott in Jan? He doesn't hide the fact that he is a LFC fan. We need both a striker and a quick right mid, he can play in either position. He would be able to spark counter-attacks with his blistering pace and will get alot of goals. With this thing about player power, managers seem to forget that they don't have to sell players who want to leave, as they are under contract (managers seem to have to 'persuade' players to stay). Anyway, if Walcott wants a move to his favourite club, he would likely get one. he would probably cost a fair bid tho, but hopefully we will have money to spend. thoughts ed?
{Editor's Note: Seems most unlikely to me.}
02 Nov 2010 13:28:40
This talk of Cassano on a free transfer . If he was willing to sign a short term deal (until the end of the season or an 18 month contract) it might be good fit , allowing both to to have a good look at each other , that could be fun , something different in the attack . Manager would need to keep him onside though . Thoughts?
02 Nov 2010 13:28:22
The main reason for the new 'rant' from Rafa aimed at Hodgson is caused by Hodgson's weekly communications via phone or email with Internationale Milan's President Massimo Morrati. Hodgson and Morrati have a close personal friendship and Rafa does not like this. the fianl straw came recently when Liverpool officialdom apparently approached Morrati over whether they could 'talk to' Luis Figo about whether he would like to move to Liverpool to work with Hodgson and the club. It was rejected by Inter and when Rafa found out he was very annoyed because Inter did not go through with an official approach for Mascherano and Kuyt because of the 'personal trust' between Hodgson and Morrati. This was the reason why Rafa attacked Purslow a couple of weeks ago.
02 Nov 2010 13:26:01
Facts that are possibly. .er. .lies.
1. Losing out to Spurs on signing Van der Vaart in the summer was a major let down. He would have breathed life into our attack.
2. Carra. .does seem to exude panic these days. .all players have a lifespan. .deffo Agger +1 in central defence is the way forward.
3. Podolski is a brilliant shout and would offer a real threat down the flank and in the box.
4. Roy needs to be careful bringing too many English players into the squad. . SWP. possibly Young. .when was the last time England won anything. . 66 I believe. When was the last time they played well at all. .er. . 96?
5. Saying that Jarvis (wolves) and Johnson (Citeh) would give us great width.
6. Kuyt (injured) but with 1 decent striker on the books (Torres) why has Kuyt not been reverted back to a proper striker?
7. Or Jovanovich who is an offensive midfielder/ striker anyway.
8. Everyone is calling for Pacheco. .however he has not done much on his 1st team appearances to warrant the call up. .unlike Eccelstone who has shown real intent with the ball.
9. Should have signed Salcido not Konchesky.
10. Do not buy an Italian striker. .Cassano would implode. A Llorente. .andy carroll hybrid would suit!
02 Nov 2010 13:25:24
Liverpool should sign Taye Taiwo in January. He can defend and is a threat from free-kicks. I like Aurelio but he cannot defend, as good as he is on the ball. Johnson cannot defend but he is good gooing forward so defensive compensation is needed on the left. Konchesky is sh*te on and off the ball.
We also need to sign a right-mid. Kuyt is great but we need someone with width and pace who can run at defenders. Maybe Marko Marin or Ibrahim Affelay.
FOR H* KS SAKE, why have we not signed a striker yet?! It was suicide going into a new season without a partner for Torres. N'Gog is awful and Hodgson refuses to play Pacheco and Eccleston. The one position we needed to fill in the summer was up-front yet it was only one of onle three positions we didn't spend money on (the others being right-mid and right-back). We need someone who can play along side Torres in a 4-4-2, not someone who playes when he is injured. Look at Chelsea, since Drogba and Anelka have stopped having to fight for first-choice striker and started playing along side eachother, they haven't ben able to stop scoring. Two strikers halves the workload of Torres and takes the pressure off him, we will fill the box a bit easier (a problem we ALWAYS have) and we will have twice as hard for the oppositions defence as they will have to watch two men's runs.
We also need to sell players in January as our squad is over-crowded. We should sell:
N'Gog,
Babel,
Maxi,
Poulsen,
Konchesky
If we sell these and bring in three players, our squad should look like this.
ST- Torres, ?, Pacheco, Eccleston
LM- Cole, Jovanovic
RM- ?, Kuyt
CM- Gerrard, Meireles, Lucas, Shelvey, Spearing
LB- ?, Aurelio
RB- Johnson, Kelly
CB- Carra, Skrtel, Agger, Kyrgiakos
GK- Reina, Jones
What do y'all think? Ed?
YNWA
{Editor's Note: Broadly fine - but don't expect a new LB.}
02 Nov 2010 13:24:05
Spelling errors
(clearly all some managers need is a chance)
If Daglish was to be reappointed it would be interesting to see the old LFC way brought back , More past players on the coaching staff , medals galore between them , vast experience in the LFC way of things .
Hopefully there will be communication from the club this evenig relating to the meeting between the Board and manager , that will give us a much clearer understanding of where we are with NESV .
Thoughts?
02 Nov 2010 13:22:53
Possible Liverpool Signings and Outgoings in January and summer 2011 windows -
In -
Kesuike Honda - Cska Moscow - 10 - 15 Mil - Cm/ Am
Antonio Cassano - Free - Sampdoria - Free if Released - Lam/ Am/ Fw
Taye Taiwo - Marsielle - 6-8 mil - Lb
Lassana Diarra - Real Madrid - 10 mil - Rb/ Dm/ Cm
Lisandro Lopez - Lyon - 10-15 mil - Fw
Out -
Poulsen - Undisc
Babel - Undisc
Maxi - Undisc
Aurelio - Undisc
Kyriagkos - Undisc
Jovanociv - Undisc
Pacheco - Loan
Degen - Undisc
Aquilani - Undisc
First Team Players
4 - 2 - 3 - 1
Reina/ Jones
Johnson/ Kelly
Carragher/ Wilson
Skrtl/ Agger
Taiwo/ Konchesky
Diarra/ Lucas
Merielles/ Honda
Kuyt/ Amoo
Gerrard/ Shelvey
Cole/ Cassano
Torres/ Lopez/ N'Gog
Reina
Johnson - Carragher - Skrtl - Taiwo
Diarra - Merieles
Kuyt - Gerrard - Cole
Torres
Subs
Jones
Agger
Konchesky
Lucas
Honda
Cassano
Lopez
Possible Numbers
Jones - 1
Johnson - 2
Konchesky - 3
Merieles - 4
Agger - 5
Taiwo - 6
Lopez - 7
Gerrard - 8
Torres - 9
Cole - 10
Cassano - 11
Shelvey - 15
Honda - 16
Skrtl - 17
Kuyt - 18
Diarra - 20
Lucas - 21
Wilson - 22
Carragher - 23
N'Gog - 24
Reina - 25
Amoo - 27
Kelly - 30
Other Youngsters will of course be included in this numbers list.
02 Nov 2010 13:22:12
"a player in the Xabi mould. a real box to box midfielder. .
Does his defensive duty - gets things going from the back - and would also find himself in the final third to finish the move off. .
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Now I wouldn't ordinarily feel the need to correct such a post, but as you were correcting someone else, I guess it's fair game. Anyway - Xabi is not and never has been a "box to box" midfielder. Neither did he "find himself in the final third" very often (hence his poor goal return) . He is your typical deep-lying central midfield playmaker. Meireles has a great right foot and is a great passer of the ball, but that's where the similarities with Xabi end. Dont get me wrong, big fan of both players, but they're nothing like the same player. In fact, they would make an awesome central midfield two if you ask me.
JF
02 Nov 2010 13:19:23
02 Nov 2010 11:54:03
Roy Hodgson is contracted as Liverpool manager. Liverpool has always been a loyal club.
He will at least get a full season. Nicol not interested as he is happy and settled in USA. Hiddink is not interested either. The only ones who are interested at a distance are Dalglish, Rijkaard and O'neil. I bet a new manager won't be installed until summer.
By the way, Raffa Benitez wants to come home. Apparantly he's home sick ( liverpool's his home as he regards it). Italy isn't Liverpool.
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Rafa still has his house in Caldy. Rafa and his wife loved living on the Wirral. They were loved and valued in the local community and have many good friends there. Rafa's wife played a great role raising money for local charities. Their children loved their school and all of their friends live on the Wirral.
I wouldn't be surprised if they eventually all retire to the Wirral even if Rafa never gets the opprtunity to return to Liverpool FC.
02 Nov 2010 13:18:23
02 Nov 2010 13:04:05
Keep reading about Bent to Liverpool - Am I the only one who thinks, for the money (i would expect a fee of around £18m), we could get someone much better?
Yes - somehow, he has an excellent goalscoring record, but my view is he runs around like a headless chicken most the time and is only effectively as a 'lone' striker.
We need someone who scores regularly, but also can act as the link between the midfield and Torres - a player in the same mould as Tevez.
Any suggestions?
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Aguero, Martinez and Honda?
Blair Mayne YNWA
02 Nov 2010 13:17:12
Re bale & lennon, no sooner had it gone it was just as quickly taken off
02 Nov 2010 13:13:37
Even though most people want Roy out, which I don't agree with, people must realise that loosing a manager the same week we play Chelsea is a poor move, particularly since the team are improving (albeit slowly)
02 Nov 2010 13:11:43
{ed's note - I can't see him being at Donnie much longer, someone will snap him up, I just hope he proves me right when he gets the chance.}
I think it is a really good spot . Moyes , Hughton , Di Matteo , Martinez and Coyle have all taken to the top flight in the right way . It seems such bravery is paying off , clearley all some managers nees is a chance .
02 Nov 2010 13:10:04
02 Nov 2010 11:25:23
Last week hodgson said
we want to sign players that barcalona madrid inter]
would be after
in that case would they sign poulsen
konchesky
wright philips
carlton cole
meirles
my answer woul be no they would not
so why would roy want to buy them
he needs sacking before he gets money to spend on the team
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response to this:
Are you serious? I agree with you on all those names but one - Raul Meireles. . This guy is class - he is adapting to the speed of the English game and I think its a classic case of: he will play better if he plays with better players. . If he were playing in madrids midfield - we'd all say, SIGN HIM. . but we're not seeing the best of him. i think he's a player in the Xabi mould. a real box to box midfielder. .
Does his defensive duty - gets things going from the back - and would also find himself in the final third to finish the move off. .
02 Nov 2010 13:08:05
Ed what do you reckon about bently je was absaloute awesome at blackburn but never got the chance at spurs with a few games behind him i reckon he could become a good bargin even if he ends up a sub hell get more starts than he does at spurs
{Editor's Note: There are better options available.}
02 Nov 2010 13:04:05
Keep reading about Bent to Liverpool - Am I the only one who thinks, for the money (i would expect a fee of around £18m), we could get someone much better?
Yes - somehow, he has an excellent goalscoring record, but my view is he runs around like a headless chicken most the time and is only effectively as a 'lone' striker.
We need someone who scores regularly, but also can act as the link between the midfield and Torres - a player in the same mould as Tevez.
Any suggestions?
02 Nov 2010 12:59:16
The meeting between John Henry, Tom Werner and Roy Hodgson is to discuss the future of the club and how the club can progress.
They will discuss the hierarchical structure of the club, inform Hodgson of who will be on the board and how they will run the club.
They will also discuss the future with Hodgson, including his own future when the new owners, will assure Hodgson he WILL REMAIN in charge until AT LEAST the end of the season.
They want to steady the ship at Anfield both on the pitch and off it and see Hodgson, with his 'nice guy' personality as the ideal man to initially steady everything on the field.
They did look at the possibility of replacing Hodgson but feel that although there is a lot of negativity around Liverpool regarding the league position, Liverpool are only 5 points away from the Champions League places with another 28 games to go.
They will use the meeting as an ideal opportunity to outline thier new transfer policy that they will integrate from January. Included in this policy are;
1. A new wage structure implemented, similar to what Arsenal and Manchester United have.
2. Players signed to be a maximum age of 27. This is so youth is on their side, players will peak during their time at Liverpool and will have potential to develop and have a decent sell-on amount.
3. Loan signings and free transfers can be signed no matter what age, but, the wages and signing on fee will be signifcantly lowered.
There are many more finer details that will be included in the new transfer policy but the above are the most signficant.
Hodgson will then present his list of lplayers he wants to sign in January who he believes will strengthen the squad. He has identified 5 players with the wings and up front as his main priorities. I don't understand how anyone can say Hodgson is signing players when the only people who know who he is interested in is probably himself, Sammy Lee, Mike Kelly, King Kenny, Purslow and perhaps Broughton. Maybe no one other than Hodgson knows who he wants, but certainly, no one posting on this site knows exactly who he wants, not even the editors. Yes the players we are being linked to could be on Hodgson's wishlist but we'll have to wait and see in January what will happen.
After Hodgson presents his list, NESV will inform him of how much money he will have to spend in January, and Liverpool will then open negotiations with the priority targets respective clubs to thrash out a deal before January and sign them right at the start of January.
So, Hodgson isn't going anywhere. Now lets just get behind him and the rest of the lads and carry on climbing the table!
*Teenage Mutant Ninja Skrtel*
YNWA
02 Nov 2010 12:58:30
After the rubbish dull negative start we have had. . woy getting so much stick etc. . .
not one player has backed him in public
does that say something??
{Editor's Note: Carragher actually provided backing in an interview - albeit somewhat indirectly.}
02 Nov 2010 12:57:35
Did anyone see the blackpool vs west brom game last night, even after getting 2 men sent off they still went for it. can you imagine if we went down to 9 men under roy. how much more negative could it get. would anyone be disappointed if di matteo got the job. it would show that NESV are looking at the long term and making a bold statement. and his type of football is very classy and attacking.
also was watching the LFC channel earlier and it was showing greatest champions league games and we were beating real madrid and barca, how times have changed.
always a red
02 Nov 2010 12:57:16
02 Nov 2010 12:35:42
Given all the talk on who we need. . . has anyone thought about prob the best full back Phillip Lahm, he can play right or left back this is a must, also we need and i strongly advise for this to happen is Ever Bangera, with these two in our side the only way is up.
Reina
Johnson Carra Agger Lahm
Bangera
Meireles Gerrard
Kuyt Cole
Torres
with this we will have to full backs that are dangerous on the attack. This leaves Gerrard supporting Torres as it should be and Meireles doing what he does best knowing that they have somebody who enjoys the defensive position of midfield. we can look at wingers maybe but we have two of the brightest prospects coming thru our ranks Eccleston and Amoo and not far from being 1st team material.
You've just hit the nail on the head mate. This would give us the team we need to challenge with the big guns once again.
02 Nov 2010 12:42:41
Anyone else think Carra has become a liability?
Everything that seems to go wrong at the back usually involves him
Don't get me wrong been a massive fan of his over the years and would deffo want him on the coaching staff
He'sbeen legendary for us but I think it's time we looked for his replacement!
Forever red
02 Nov 2010 12:38:30
Many fans loved and continue to love Rafa for the simple reason that he fought for the fans against the owners (and Ferguson). The media clearly had it in for him. Their latest twisting of his comments about not being able to see a priest in a mountain of sugar is yet a further example of their obsession with him. This saying is the Spanish equivalent of the English saying 'not being able to see the woods from the trees' ( priests traditionally dress in black, if the priest was sitting on a mountain of sugar which is white you would have to be blind not to see him). Yet the media try to blow it up to being a nonsense saying. The simple reality is that Rafa was indirectly attacked by Roy Hodgson who has lambasted the squad 's qualities. Rafa was simply defending his record by saying you would have to be blind not to be aware that he had to operate with one hand tied behind his back. Notwithstanding the takeover the media continues to be mischievous when it comes to our beloved club. The recent rumours about Reina and Torres wanting out in January are another example. Thankfully the astute Henry picked up on this rumour and cut it down to size when he announced last week that no one was leaving in January (deadwood will of course be allowed to move on). The recent report linking the club with SWP is yet another example of the media talking absolute trash. Henry has announced that we need to be smart when we spend money. SWP has never achieved his potential. He is now 29 and has turned down a new contract reportedly of £75k a week from Man City. Does anyone really think it would be smart to pay £5m plus and over £75k a week on this 29 year old underachieving bench warmer. I don't think so. The club will be looking to sign young players with huge potential or talent. Affelay is an example (though he will be difficult to buy as others are interested) as is Honda. Reality Red
02 Nov 2010 12:09:56
I have heard you talk about Sean O'Driscoll frequently , I then looked at his managerial stats briefly and thought he seemed average , recently I looked a little deeper and see him to be a loyal brave manager that is clearly over achieving within his means . Even if LFC do not take a chance on him , it will be interesting to see if any other Premiership team employs him in the future . {ed's note - I can't see him being at Donnie much longer, someone will snap him up, I just hope he proves me right when he gets the chance.}
02 Nov 2010 12:01:27
Hi its lewis chapman here rafa benitez was the best manager since shankly era he won us the champions league in the first season then the f.a cup, liverpool need stability and we had that in hicks and gillett i miss rafa and the american duo
Lewis chapman reccytangle
02 Nov 2010 11:58:18
02 Nov 2010 11:42:16
Morning blair . hope u didn't hurt yourself falling out of bed . top 4 aaaaaagh thud .
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I think you need new material mate?
To be honest you're getting a bit boring and predictable. I love a bit of banter as you know but you're starting to get a bit repeatitive and sounding like a bad joke i heard 20 years ago.
Then again i shouldn't expect much after all you are a MANC and your level of humour is pretty low.
Blair Mayne YNWA
02 Nov 2010 11:42:16
Morning blair . hope u didn't hurt yourself falling out of bed . top 4 aaaaaagh thud .
02 Nov 2010 11:39:41
02 Nov 2010 10:37:25
"Jamie and gerrard should go . holding club back.who is the idiot with the above quote.
02 Nov 2010 11:27:02
02 Nov 2010 11:07:59
Rafa Rant.
Is it me or has Rafa just shot himself in the foot, Rafa openly admits he left behind a £300m squad, which in the end was not capable. He then appears to criticise Woy because he has signed 9 players with a net spend of £10m. Rafa seems to think he left the perfect squad, but in reality he didn't.
Rafa you scored an own goal mate
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For me Rafa can say whatever he wants about Hodgson (right or wrong).
No matter what you think of Rafa's managerial skills he loved the fans, the club and the city of Liverpool itself. I don't think he's even sold his house yet?
Were as Hodgson uses crap tactics and has not endeared himself with the LFC fans with his comments.
Giving the choice who to listen to about LFC Rafa or Roy? Would be Rafa everytime i'd rather listen to Ferguson (the thief) and Allardyce's comments on LFC than Hodgson's.
Blair Mayne YNWA
02 Nov 2010 11:07:59
Rafa Rant.
Is it me or has Rafa just shot himself in the foot, Rafa openly admits he left behind a £300m squad, which in the end was not capable. He then appears to criticise Woy because he has signed 9 players with a net spend of £10m. Rafa seems to think he left the perfect squad, but in reality he didn't.
Rafa you scored an own goal mate
02 Nov 2010 10:42:10
Just to add insult to injury, Chelsea will have four youngsters on the bench on sunday, all trusted by the manager, first team and the fans!we may even have a 15 year old defender on the bench, that shows how much respect you will be shown on sunday, you don't have 5 first team players you can trust, Lampard is back and maybe Ramires, every player at Chelsea is (fighting) for a starting roll, every player wants to prove themselves and earn the right to play, can you say the same about Liverpool, when your team sheet goes up on sunday, any one not on that sheet, will sigh with reliefe, you have not got one player that Chelsea would want, that includes Gerrard and Torres, so how much will you get for the rest, F* k ALL. Blue b* tard
02 Nov 2010 10:37:25
"Jamie and gerrard should go . holding club back"
ARE YOU SERIOUS?
You want rid of Steven gerrard? one of the greatest midfielders of all time , the man who has got us out of trouble so many times , the man who trys to make things happen for us when there seems to be no way of breaking down defences , When players join us one of the first things they say is i can't wait to play alongside great players like steven gerrard and fernando torres.have you even watched liverpool in the last 10 years mate??
It amazes you know when people talk about players like kaka and iniesta and give them so much praise and big them up , and someone like gerrard who is twice the player of kaka easily! Kaka is not a leader , kaka can't tackle , kaka is lazy and kaka is so overated , he will NEVER be as good as steven gerrard , Remember people what he has done for this club and how much he loves this club he could of gone to chelsea years ago and would of won the premier league a few times by now ( and we know how much he wants to win it ) but he remains loyal , so lets be loyal to him!
02 Nov 2010 09:37:29
Why look forein?? Because no
Manager good enough for lfc. Let's face it even if we did find one that was to bring us some success how long before FA come in snatch him. For Roy Liverpool were his second choice over England job. Get rid now, just for that reason alone. We are scouse not English!
02 Nov 2010 09:36:21
Sorry about the last post, hit the wrong key and it went before I got into it! Hope it does not get posted!
Just a few thoughts:
Manager:
do not be surprised if RH goes and his replacement is Steve Nicol. Done well in the USA and in the North East with the Revolution. Also a Liverpool legend. NESV will know of him and he was touted as a USA national coach recently. Liked the appointment of RH when it happened but been disappointed so far so time for a change again, albeit sooner than I would like. Roy will get a pay off for his pension so he will be ok and I like the man just not how he sets us up.
Team:
Back four is rubbish and not what we expect of LFC. They hoof the ball and foul too often (managers preference and not good enough). Give the young guys a chance…. Ayala, Kelly, Wilson, Irwin etc. Johnson should move up to RM and leave the RB slot to someone else! Maybe we should get Derby back and let him have a shot? Kelly is a CB after all.
Lucas has always been played out of position. He is not a stopper. He is an attacking midfielder who should be given a chance to show what he can do in that role.
Jovanovic should be given a chance up front with Torres. I do not understand why he has not so far unless there is a problem behind the scenes with characters/ egos.
Carragher is being unfairly slated. He is trying to cover for our defensive frailties and at his age he should not have to do that! He still has a lot to offer if we sort out the other three positions. This I think comes down to the manager's preferred way of play….hoof it out. We need defenders comfortable on the ball i.e. Agger, that can pass it and offer an offensive threat. We will lose him if we do not play him although his injury record is a worry.
Gerrard has to realise that the team and club are not all about him. He has believed the hype about him being world class since he was 18 ( if not before). I for one think he has not really delivered his true potential. He has lifted the European cup agreed and done us proud in Europe but in the EPL he has never really dominated the way he should. He does not boss a midfield intelligently. His way seems to be by physical rather than nouse inspired. In the past we had Kennedy, Dalglish, Beardsley, Barnes, McDermott etc. The list goes on. On that note I think Meireles could fit into that mould and just needs time to settle a bit more with good players around him.
Time to sell the older guys though……Kuyt comes to mind (makes way for Johnson). Also some of the underperformers such as Babel & Konchesky,
Time to give some of the young guys a chance as well I think…. Amoo, Eccleston, Ince, Shelvey, Spearing etc. No point having them otherwise and we will not attract youth if they are not given a chance!
Oh and did we sign Joe Cole this season? Might have been better to keep Aquilani?
Bottom line: time for a manager change I am sad to say but am sure NESV are thinking about that despite what they have said so far. {ed's note - be careful what you wish for, from what I have seen of Steve Nicol's Revs, they are very defensive.}
02 Nov 2010 09:32:17
I 2 don't trust hodgson with funds , i have a feeling he would buy players that he would of if still with fulham. swp no thanks , he needs 2 know this is liverpool not fulham .i hope he goes today in this meeting . to the ed i think ur right about sean o driscoll , we need some one young and hungary with time to build , he is a great manager . YNWA {ed's note - I am not used to people agreeing with me about O'Driscoll, most people will dismiss him because of who he is currently managing or expect him to win every match forgetting that he is managing a team with a League Two budget in the Championship.}
02 Nov 2010 09:24:14
With games coming thick and fast, its a time in the season when caution should be aplied, points are now a priority for Liverpool, lets face it if you loose at the weekend, you might not be able to close the gap on Blackpool or West Brom, how sad is that.
02 Nov 2010 09:14:07
Has anyone else noticed that Gerrard has had not one decent game yet, ive been to all the matches apart from Bolton but Gerrards body language isn't right he seems to huffing and puffing yes but at times with no conviction.
Since Gerrard hasnt had a decent game the team has been on a downward spiral hopefully he, ll come good on Sunday.
SinghKing
02 Nov 2010 09:11:00
Who else does NOT trust Roy with the January transfer funds.
SinghKing
02 Nov 2010 09:09:32
SHAUN WRIGHT PHILLIPS absouletly backward step if anyone get Santa Cruz
SinghKing
02 Nov 2010 09:08:20
ROY the joy geuss what he, ll b resting Gerrard and Torres on Thursday u watch foR the match against Chelsea. i, m dreading the Chelsea match unless we buck up in defence and play an attacking game we have to were at Home you get that ROY where palying at HOME!
02 Nov 2010 09:04:42
Who else is sick of tired of seeing images of Roy on the bench rubbibg his forehead as to "what do i do now" syndrome the fella hasnt a clue and if your a player and see your boss behaving like that it don't propel much enthuisiam. AND why the hell does he make subs in the last 5mins everyone slated Rafa for only making subs on 68mins at least that gave the subs time.
ROY OUT don't care what Ed the Head says but this muppet has to go! !
02 Nov 2010 08:56:10
02 Nov 2010 06:30:08
Ed, do you think, we would make a move on city's flop Wright phillips. . I hope, not. he is nothing close to quality, we need here. . Ur thoughts, ed?
{Editor's Note: He might be OK as a short-term solution if he is cheap, otherwise I would rather give Amoo a chance.}
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SWP - Short term o.k. But long term absolutely awful. Probably a big wage packet as well.
02 Nov 2010 08:37:25
Does anyone know if its true that nesv are booting hodgeson today and replacing him with pelligrini? ?.
caz
02 Nov 2010 08:26:05
Raffa is so funny with his comments about Hodgson. ha ha go Raffa lad!
Before all you Raffa haters start moaning, the Inter boss said these things because Hodgson banned Dalglish from the training ground when he took over.
Raffa installed Dalglish and recommended Dalglish for his ex post. Hodgson felt threatened by Dalglish and banned him
02 Nov 2010 08:04:15
If indeed there's a meeting between Hodgson and JWH, I'd wager that it's to trash out the terms of Roy's departure, which will happen after the Abramovich game.Whether it's by removal or voluntary exit, Hodgson's off nxt week.
This conclusion is premised on the following:
-NESV is win-oriented
-They're proponents of youth development and, morever, usage
-They're prudent and wise spenders
-They want to listen to, win over and reassure the fans
-Most/ some of our important senior players cannot coexist with Hodgson, and have made it clear that if he continues, they're gone
-A couple of our promising youth players are to leave if Hodgson remains
Now, John H and co would've already noted that Hodgson's:
-a defeatist, all too willing and happy to accept a second best performance and result
-has a propensity for 29-30 yr olds as opposed to the youth
-has alienated "important" senior players and other team members who want rid of him-or they're gone
-has marginalised some very impressive and highly promising youth lads
-made some appalling decisions in the transfer market
-caricatures the club
-frustrates and infuriates the fans who virtually want him out as in. .yesterday
So, basically, NESV has NO incentive of keeping this guy, but everything to gain by removing him.And by coming out last week saying that NO "star" players would leave in Jan, I think they've made their choice-Torres, Pepe, Agger etc over Hodgson.Something had to give, and Roy was it.
So, for all the reasons I listed above, I don't see why John H would risk losing his best players and incurring the fans' wrath by keeping Roy and giving him money in Jan.There's just way too much for him to lose.
And the reason I earmarked Sunday's game as his last is because that would be the ripe time to remove him.
If whoever succeeds him is brought in now, he'll have ample time to appraise the squad and proper scout his targets for Jan.Nxt week would be the right time to install a new man;Jan could prove too late.
Cause gents what's the point in allowing Hodgson to spend in Jan, only to fire summer.Doesn't make any sense to me.
So, as wrong as I could be, any John H-Roy meeting would be to seal the latter's fate.After Abramovich game, it's BON VOYAGE, Woy, ADIOS AMIGO.
What do think, ed, am I way off the mark here?
Silver Song
{Editor's Note: It is one view.}
02 Nov 2010 07:44:12
Re this:
01 Nov 2010 23:58:47
Ed if you could swap torres for teves and de jong would you? {ed's note - no, do I look stupid or something? That would be insanity! De Jong is not needed and Tevez is a step down from Torres, it would make no sense to make that swap.}
Why would you want de Jong 3 legs is it he's broken since jan plus his tackle against alonso.there is a difference between a hard player like mash or Roy keane but de Jong is jus a dirty b*zzard. Tevez is good but look at the trouble he causes would be a good partner for Torres but honestly wouldn't want him. Would prefer suarez, llorente, bent. Glad to see your thoughts on de Jong and tevez too ed. I don't know why people keep linking us with troubled players.
Fowler is god
02 Nov 2010 07:17:53
ED what do u think of these 3 players? Banega, Afellay, Hulk.
{Editor's Note: Excellent, Good - but a mercenary, Reasonably Good.}
02 Nov 2010 06:18:28
I'm not crazy about Rafa the manager but i've a lot of time for Rafa the man.
well said mate, i can't agree more. rafa did make mistakes but i think he is a top bloke and did try for the fans. its abit like roy, lovely guy but not my pic for the liverpool managers job. just a thought but if roy won the eurpa league would that be rafas team that wins it? ?? if he gets in the top four i suppose that will be down to rafa aswell? ? just like houlliers team winning in istanbul! ! thoughts please people? ? ?
matty b
02 Nov 2010 05:52:16
Any more news about the Chief Exec appointment. It seems pointless speculating about Roy's future and new signings until NESV have put the main man in place. Perhaps this is what the meeting is about?
I can't understand why there is all this talk of SWP. I'd rather have Shaun the Sheep. For much less than SWP's package of wages and fees, we must be able to get someone like Jarvis who terrorised Man City and has been consistently good over the last year, and Jarvis is 24, not approaching 30.
Grayswood
02 Nov 2010 05:14:16
Does any body rate Lukas Podolski?? He is unhappy at Cologne( story on sky sports) and there pretty much bottom of Bundesliga, and he is alot better than Mario Gomez. Would be able to get in Jan, maybe get on the cheap, Has a proper left peg and can play Euorpa league too! what you guys think? ?
02 Nov 2010 04:33:17
1. REINA/ JONES
2. JOHNSON/ CARRAGHER/ DARBY
3. AGGER/ SOTO/ WILSON
4. SKRTEL/ MEXES
5. KONCHESKY/ AURELIO/ KELLY
6. YOUNG/ KUYT/ AMOO
7. GERRARD/ AQUILANI
8. MEIRLES/ SHELVEY/ LUCAS
9. TURAN/ RODRIGUEZ
10. LLORENTE/ J. COLE
11. TORRES/ N'GOG
Can this team win the prem?!
02 Nov 2010 04:29:31
01 Nov 2010 23:51:17
After Bolton I hope maxi has a big lift to his game he did have a good game and Blackburn to, I heard he's gone come January. So am hoping it not a case he has something to look forward to elsewhere and that's why he more relaxed and not as stressed out and out of confidence like the rest ov the team. (under WOY H)
maxi hasnt been here even a year yet, , he came from a less physical slower paced game to fast and furious sport in england, , , i think we will begin to see the best of him soon, , , ppl forget that players need to adjust not jus there game but lifestyle, , culture everything, , , so give this guy a break ppl, , ,
02 Nov 2010 04:24:23
01 Nov 2010 23:54:54
Sign craig bellamy. class player
do u want to see liverpool taking further steps back ha , , craig bellamy is carp, , , he scored 7 goals for us in 27 appearances he scored 7 in 24 for west ham, , 12 out of 40 appearances for city so no thnx we ned a player who can score nearly every game hes in
02 Nov 2010 04:21:49
I feel the Premiere league this season is overall competitive but the standard poorer, which makes our position all the more depressing. as the English media were promoting the anti Rafa mob last season, its if their darling Hodgson and his "judge me after 10 games" quote backfires on him (so don't moan at the fans if they jump on the "anti-woy" bandwagon now, because this time the criticism is more than justified).
as a life long RED its hard to take , since the 60′s , when weaned on Shanks mentality and supporting each REDS team . encouraging any player that wears the LiverBird on their chest . and whoever managed that team, until now, I can't enjoy it. my heart wanted a win, and as always although I want my team to play beautiful footy i'd take a scambled win. a steal like sunday…but I can't imagine iin my head being truly "happy" whilst that man is sitting in the managers seat. Pepe , as usual, great , Sotos, Carra & Skrtel defending well, Lucas is getting better all the time (IMO) . and starting to show some "command" in his play (obviously being picked for Brazil is also helping him) . our big guns SG & Torres off form, Torres still don't look 100% fit to me, that explosive pace not yet seen this season. I just hope its not lost due to those successive injuries. BUT his "flick" was class. and Ngog did more for the team in his Cameo than Cole had done until then. Konch, , ok at home, but perhaps like his continued boss, not an "away day" lover…Meireles is the one i am unsure about. good last sunday but yeeterday worked hard, but at times looked lost.
tryting to avoid bias is difficult , but my feeling is that hodgson has proven that there is not one thing about him that's good for LFC (that is the LFC i want to support) . the "10 games" gone by, and I feel that the "success " of recent wins are more down to the team than to "tactics" …and I don't see a strategy .
i can't being myself ever to want to lose , but rh is no our man, he was appointed by the "corrupt regime" . and like that nightmare, i want it to be over and him gone, i'd rather have NO coach than someone who disgusts me as he does, and makes me not want to even look or listen to his interviews or post-match "opinions" . oh…man of the match…
….THE TRAVELLING KOP, made it sound like our home game, best to all of you who were part of that , you deserve much much more!
comments are welcome! !
Kop4life
02 Nov 2010 04:21:11
01 Nov 2010 23:58:47
Ed if you could swap torres for teves and de jong would you? {ed's note - no, do I look stupid or something? That would be insanity! De Jong is not needed and Tevez is a step down from Torres, it would make no sense to make that swap.}
well actually would make sense, , , tevez has shown to work hard, , and torres latley hasnt, , , tevez is scoring torres isnt, , and as for de jong he is much better than lucas and poulsen so yeah he is needed
{Editor's Note: That does not make it a good deal.}
02 Nov 2010 04:18:51
01 Nov 2010 23:58:57
Reports coming out of the morning papers that we're gona make a £5m move for Shaun Wright-Phillips.
Would be disappointed with this. 29 years of age, well past his best, probably want massive wages (contract talks with City broke down because he demanded more money - and he's already on £60,000 a week! ) So atleast £3.1m per year for him when he's near 30 and past it. Waste of money and if it happens yet another poor signing from Hodgson.
Surely Henry will not sanction such a deal.
as everyone states all time man city won't sell to liverpool or any other rival in the premier league, , so don't expect wright phillips here lol, , , unless they think well he can't improve them can only make things worst for liverpool DEAL, , , , lets hope not lets actually hope the new manager won't even contimplate phillips lol
02 Nov 2010 03:21:19
A Quote from someone defending roy. .
>>>"as Roy said "judge us after ten games"i say judge roy after one season.". . . . . . . .
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. .Well he said himself judge me after ten games. Ten EPL games has been played and we are 13th and we got there with; 3wins, 3 draws and 4 loses. Am i missing something? is that really a good place to be after 10 games? is that the kind of points to match ratio you want at Liverpool. There's 38 matches in total. 10 of which is already wasted. we have 28 games left and i don't trust Roy to get us where we need to be come end of the season. i certainly don't want him to stay until jan or dec. i want a new manager in ASAP if there is going to be a change of management, allowing the newly appointed manager to make the changes he sees fit. and by then he'll know what he needs and would have targeted the players he wants in advance so that he doesn't make rash decisions and buy randoms, therefore, improving the team in the right way rather than just adding players he likes and has liked while he was at a different club as that would not be beneficial to liverpool.
02 Nov 2010 03:10:55
Hey Ed. .
I agree with you. .I've been singing praises for Hammil and even Paul Anderson for many years. .Both of them were as good as a Pennant in crossing and Adam H. has a knack for piercing defences and getting to the net.
I know there was a problem with Pacheco being late for practice but he's said it in the pre-season. "If I'm not going to play then please loan me!". .He should be playing everyday and to be honest, I hate to see the kids "rot" in the academy. Seeing Ince and Darby go on loan was refreshing and we should be doing the same with Eccelston, Mavinga, Amoo and even Gulaci!
On a another note: we may get about 25 million quid to spend during the window and rumours of N'Zogbia (average at best) and Young (Inconsistent) is heating up. Getting Young for 14 million is worth it, not the 30 million that everyone says he's worth! I'd rather throw Insua + 11 million for Arda. .Pavluychenko would be the best option as a second striker. I would have loved to see the air-prowess of Kenwyne Jones which would would free up space for Torres, but our scouts are too stupid to have made that move. .I've started up rumours about Bale when with Cardiff, Johnson when at Middlesborough and Nasri at Marseille. DID WE RECRUIT TOP CLASS? lol. .Thank goodness we got the likes of Ince, Suso, Wisdom and Sterling in the ranks. .Even spending 15 million on Adam Johnson would be great or even on Juan Mata! Then we have players like Radamel Falcao, Bryan Ruiz, Keisuke Honda (not playing well in Russia though), Leandro Lopez,
We will sell Babel, Jovanovic (I rate, but not fitting in), hopefully Glen Johnson, Poulson, Plessis, and even Agger. With that money I've heard that Nico Kranjcar is on the way along with A.Young and a right winger. We could do for an impact bench player which we sorely lack!
Any thoughts on a good bench player Ed? or the rest of the lads?
SIM THE RED
(Hodgson makes me feel ill at times. Rafa's right, he speaks B.S.-Daglish, Pelligrini or even Sven!)
02 Nov 2010 02:32:44
Liverpool would have n MUST to bring in:
Shaun Wright P CITY
Lisandro Lopez LYON
Ashley Young VILLA
Gary Cahill BOLTON
Coentrao BENFICA
Van Der Wiel AJAX
Charlton Cole WEST HAM
Mexes ROME
DE four BELGIUM
so ill waaiting 4 de realisation. . .YNWA
02 Nov 2010 01:31:08
No no no no no to SWP. If Roy is around and signs him then I will cry. Terrible player and has age against him. Would be no better then Ryan Babel, in fact, probably worse.
02 Nov 2010 01:04:30
RE:
Do you think gerrard & carragher should be shown the door?, they've been demanding and running the club for the last decade
shankley lives on
they are the heart and soulf of lfc. .fantastic servants to the club. .both will be involved with lfc in some form for the rest of their lives.
you must be a bitter bluenose bottler blabbing bollox
02 Nov 2010 01:01:00
I hope to see Rafa return next summer, and be given a decent budget, to buy some of his first choice targets, instead of having to sell to buy and make do with his 3rd or 4th choice players. He is one of the best 5 managers in the world, he loves Liverpool Football Club, and Liverpool need him.
02 Nov 2010 00:50:50
No updates?
i heard what Rafa said about Roy , and as much as i think Rafas time was up with US! . . . . . i agree with every last word .
"I think that Mr Hodgson, he doesn't understand, " said Benitez. "Every single press conference is even worse than the last one. He's talking about things that he doesn't know. And some people cannot see a priest on a mountain of sugar. "Maybe he hasn't been in Liverpool too long. We gave the fans their pride - again. We fought for the fans, we fought for the club and we fought for our players. So maybe he cannot understand this. "With £10m net spending, I left that squad with £300m value, 13 internationals. "So, instead of talking about flips and flops, he has to concentrate on his job, try to do his best and not talk about the level of his players or the new players. "Concentrate, try to do your best because it will be the best for the club and it will be the best for the fans."
BRIXTONRED
02 Nov 2010 00:37:56
Why look at forin managers ed, when theres plenty of good young british managers that could be givin a chance ie owen coyle, alex mcliesh, these two with a decent budget could work miracles, just my opinion ed.
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Thats the viewpoint we had when we hired Hodgson, a "good British manager". Don't want to go down the same road as we're going now.
02 Nov 2010 00:29:44
Whatever manager comes in I really hope they give Pacheco And suso a shot or we will be spewing when they are banging goals in for barca and Madrid in the future!
02 Nov 2010 00:28:35
If we let pacheco go it will be biggest mistake of lfc. He is going to be great score loads of goals. Why have people not mentioned that when we play 4-4-2 with ngog stuff happens. The 351 we are overcrowding midfield and their 4 are taking our 5. I think we should play at least a 3-5-2 if we want 5 in middle. with Torres and ngog/ pacheco up top.
02 Nov 2010 00:25:02
Ed, you seem to know all this info on Hodgson's position as manager. Just wanting to know, is this info definatly true or how accurate is it?
Just seen you say that the players have been told Hodgson is leaving or something.
{Editor's Note: There is a thought that Roy Hodgson's days are very much numbered.}
02 Nov 2010 00:12:54
Pretty tired of all the rafa fanatics on this site. Why don't you support Inter if you like the man so much? He is gone, thank god, and anyone would imagine that we played total football under Rafa! And stop saying FACT!
Maybe you should ask the 27000 people instead.
Rafa Benitez
02 Nov 2010 00:01:59
01 Nov 2010 23:36:11
Top 4 team. playing great ftbl.torres signs new deal and does not move to a big club with title hopes. bang crash wallop, that's blair mayne falling out of bed and waking up .
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Spot on mate you've described the Man.City dream i have all the time.
I have f*cking bunk beds which makes the bang, crash, wallop even more painful.
Blair Mayne YNWA
01 Nov 2010 23:52:19
01 Nov 2010 23:33:20
"So i'd be just like Roy Hodgson then?
Blair Mayne YNWA"
You probably do a better job mate.
Glad you and Ed have finally came around to my view of Roy H, a month or two late, but better late than never . just hope NESV start seeing it the way we do, before its late and even a Europa place is out of reach
Roy
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Wanted to give him time Roy but his tactics and mostly his comments have bamboozled me. It just seems he just dosn't know what he's talking about. Especially for a man of over 30 years experience.
Blair Mayne YNWA
01 Nov 2010 23:51:53
We love you blair even if you are mad