Liverpool Banter Archive November 02 2013

 

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02 Nov 2013 23:05:03
Sign Cabaye in January, class and proven in prem, no "bought for the future" with him, buy for NOW. If Suarez goes we could do worse than Remy as well.

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Be a quality addition alright

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Why would either of them swap 1 mid-table club for another?

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02 Nov 2013 20:51:49
A question for the Eds. Do any of you who watch the reserves, U21's etc. have a view of how far away Ryan McLaughlin is away from warranting a start in the first team? I thought Flanno did ok today as it was a big step up but McLaughlin is more of the wing back we need for the way we are playing if he is anywhere near ready.

Many thanks

Bryan {Ed001's Note - for me, he has long been ahead of Flanno as a player, it was a surprise that he didn't get the chance today.}

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I agree that Mclaughlin should have been given ago in the wing back role ahead of Flanno, but Henderson there and Coutinho in the no 10 role would have been better.We are all getting carried away with expectations.Having A back three and 2 holding midfielders doesn't work for me, not with the back five he's playing anyway. Support the club, criticising individuals that put the liverbird on is not for me.

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Thanks Ed001. I guess there are always things going on behind the scenes that we're not aware of but it would be nice to see him given a chance. It's tough without more 'less pressure' games to blood youngsters in but fingers crossed we'll see him soon.

Get well Glen Johnson

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02 Nov 2013 22:13:02
Just a quick question for Ed002.

Do you know if FSG are currently considering extending Rodgers contract (I believe he has 18 months remaining on his current contract) or does it all depend on whether he gets us Champions League football come the end of the season?

Thanks in advance. {Ed002's Note - I really don't know but there is no rush right now.}

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02 Nov 2013 22:21:42
I would just like to say what class you show on this page, passion pride along with honesty and humility.

It was our day today and a big test for us, it will be a much bigger one coming to Anfield.


Just hope we avoid each other in next seasons champions league ( well wouldn't mind meeting you in the final though :-)

I know your disappointed but loads of respect to you

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Thanks! Much Respect to Arsenal as well.

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02 Nov 2013 21:49:49
Oh, who had a game in midweek? Arsenal. Oh, who had one eye on a Champions League game next midweek? Yes, correct, Arsenal. Who won tonight's game? Arsenal.

How can Liverpool have a free week prior to the game and a free week after the game and still put in a performance like that? They let us down big style tonight. The passing was woeful, we were panicky in possession and wasteful in the final third. Everyone knows Arsenal are a passing team with plenty of midfielders who are comfortable on the ball, but they were also first to every ball and that is inexcusable.

I hate to criticise Gerrard after all he has done for the club but the best thing would be for him to pick up a little injury, as Rodgers hasn't the bottle to drop him. He has never been the best tactically or positinally, as Rafa would no doubt tell you, but his overall brilliance could always dominate a game and you always knew he could score out of nothing. Those things are now gone and he is becoming a liability. Apart from deadly free kicks into the box from a wide position and expert penalty taking, he has little else to offer now.

Finally, we haven't won the League for almost 24 years because we never go for it. We only ever go for 4th place. It's there for the taking this season and we will still be happy trying to scramble into the last CL place in the final game. I know its a different era but Shankly would win the League with this squad because he used to breed confidence and that is what is sadly lacking. You could tell within the first 5 minutes tonight that our players didn't believe they could beat Arsenal.

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You are talking Bollox mate.Arsenals midfield 4 out numbered our midfield 3 we were out gunned in there.Brendan got it wrong, but he's still learning his trade.Let's support the team, hey.

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02 Nov 2013 21:17:46
Every time gerrard gets the ball in the opposition half he just takes too long to do anything with it and an opposition player just runs from behind and knicks it off him. This happens so many times in every match that I know what's about to happen when he gets the ball.

I would still have gerrard starting against weaker opposition because he can play well when he has a lot of time, but for tougher opposition I think he should be dropped in favour of someone like allen or alberto who can kee up with the play.

When Coutinho came on, or attacking play changed dramatically. He was the only one who had the ability to play a through ball and run at arsenal to create space. I feel that henderson, although he works hard, just doesn't have enough ability to be able to quicken the tempo when we need too. We genuinely need another creative midfielder to play with Coutinho if we want to improve. Maybe Suso next year?

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He changed the system when Coutinho came on matching the 4 in midfield, It was the formation that gave them the hold in midfield.You should blame the manager, rather than the individuals playing his system.

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02 Nov 2013 20:19:29
wonder if we could put a cheeky bid in for southampton's fitness coach

we were so flat footed and laboured compared to arsenal today

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Surely it would Arsenal's fitness coach then?

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We couldn't live with their pacy midfield, no fitness coach can give Lucas and StevieG more pace. Hendo is no slouch either, but charging up an then getting beaten an passed didn't help much either today.

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03 Nov 2013 07:53:52
Yes players and manager should keep their mouth shut it happens all the time . Moses was only here for one game and said I think we can win the league. The reds if old wouldn't talk like that they would let the football do the talking. But hey we can only dream of having the Liverpool of old.

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Ha, ha, nice one Irish

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02 Nov 2013 20:18:27
will rogers ever learn that when he says we can challenge, we always end up putting in a bad performance. anyway we are still up there. outclassed by the best team in the league at the moment but still soem good signs

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02 Nov 2013 20:17:11
Arsenal well deserved winners tonight. I love gerrard but I think it's time for Brendan to drop him from the starting line up. I know it's easier said than done but his legs have gone and its time now for Allen to slot in beside Lucas and for Steve to come on and influence the game in the latter stages. Great to see Coutinho back, he looked a different class. Flanagan is really not up to premier league standard and needs to move on . It's a pity Kelly could not fill in for Glen tonight. Disappointing result but we move on. Very confident that we can finish top 4. I think we are 2/3 players short of competing at the very top.

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02 Nov 2013 19:51:37
I think Liverpool fans show class today and accept we were beaten by a better side and we move on.
I think we need to buy better quality wing backs if this is the formation we are sticking with. We should concentrate on a LWB because that Cissokho lad is not a forward thinking player

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Please can we go back to 4-3-3. We do deep an just allow teams onto us all game. I feel for Mignolet.

Suarez is leaving anyways, so push him out right with coutinho left an sturridge central.

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02 Nov 2013 19:49:44
I think it was a tall order to give it to Flano
to play today, but he did ok for a young lad,
better than Sussoko on the left. Probably some betting syndicat poisioned Johnson. Kelly was a
very good right back when BR took over and
I don't know why he does not play him?

We lost out in midfield and lost the game. Arsenal
were really on form in possession. Lots of other questions for me, like who is taking corners these days? Seems like anyone who fancies to have a go? Statistically speaking there is a ~10% percent chance of a goal coming from a corner in PL. If Gerrard had taken them it would have probably been the only good thing he did for the 90 mins
and surely Suarez should be in the box for corners, if anything just to put the willies up defenders.

Have to say, Arsenal are looking good, thank Christ
Robin Van Persie jumped ship (onto the Titanic).

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Redace, you thought Flanagan did ok, me I think he just put the final nail in the coffin of his LFC career, simply not good enough.

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The way some of the others played, Flanagan comparatively was OK.

Cissokho on the other hand, was a lost soul.

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The game to day shows how badly we miss J.Enrique and G.Johnson . The other game we lost this season in the league they were out aswell. We do not have good back ups for when they are out.But still joint 2nd in the league take the lost on the chin and move on Fulham next .

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Yes I agree cissokho was lost today, from what I've seen so far glad he's only on loan.

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02 Nov 2013 19:45:19
is Brendon ruthless enough to drop Gerrard? he looked slow and ineffective, too many players had a bad day, too many wouldn't go in where it hurts and shirked tackles, except Lucas and Skrtel, and how long must we suffer these bad performances? and just to clarify, I don't mind getting beaten as long as we bust a gut to win!

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Agreed there was no drive from Gerrard today but don't think Allen is the answer

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Disagree about your examples. Skrtel was OK, it was Toure who was quite poor today.

Lucas and Gerrard were abysmal.

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I don't think BR has the balls to drop Gerrard, as much as its needed and as much as I want it to happen, I can't see him dropping the captain. Gerrard has bee ordinary at best this season, surely BR can see this?

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02 Nov 2013 19:36:24
I think it's fair to say we were totally outclassed today in every department. Let's not be too down hearted though, because Arsenal play some superb football and look like champions in the making. Hopefully in a year or two we shall be at the same level Arsenal currently are.

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02 Nov 2013 19:34:39
i really think it time we start playing agger again for sakho.

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What wrong did Sakho do? He and Skrtel had to carry for Toure, who was poor, and he did well covering for Cissokho.

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Didnt think Sakho was bad today, thought him and Skrtel was only ones to be able to hold head up. However agree a place needs to be made for Agger.

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Sakho was one of the few who tried his best today.

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Since Sakho has come into the team we have always let in goals. we need Agger on the pitch, and Sakho tackles are very clumsy in my opinion

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02 Nov 2013 19:29:58
Gerrard and Lucas both non existant, both should have been substituted at half time and in the 2nd half why did Gerrard carry on playing when quite clearly he was carrying an injury, should have done the decent thing and took himself off, total disgrace stopping a fellow player coming on and at least contributing to the game, as they say no-one is bigger than the club.

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Ridiculous statement to make! Any winner in any sport who has a history of delivering and turning things around will have the self belief they can do it again. Gerrard has been quite simply amazing for LFC and just because he had an off game you rip him to shreds. Don't be such a muppet, give credit to Arsenal who outplayed us, credit to our team for having a really good go at winning and start getting behind the club win, lose or draw!

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The question should be asked of the Manager. Gerrard cannot substitute himself, and he certainly cannot come out and say he is crap and needs to be substituted, he is the captain.

It's BR who has to grow a pair and make changes.

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03 Nov 2013 08:55:14
Agreed. Just have well played with ten men today!
Joe Allen may not be the answer, but it's Gerrards spot that is his position and it's up for grabs should he want it enough!

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02 Nov 2013 19:26:51
Disappointing game today but not the end of the world as still in a good position and if arsenal are going to be pushin for title or top four then a loss away from home is a fairly acceptable result just have to get home results against your rivals really.
However I did find myself throughout the game questions gerrard.
Over the first ten games I have generally been doing the same in a lot of matches and really can't see what he is offering to the team. Clearly he offers leadership and is a talisman and legend and inspirational captain however in terms of play I just don't think he is doing it.
He isn't breaking up the play, he doesn't have the energy and pace to get at people, he isn't playing any fantastic long balls to set up attacks, no through balls really and doesn't get forward to support the attack.
Just feel he is doing nothing particularly productive, isn't energetic like Henderson or defensive like Lucas or creative like coutinho or even Allen in pre season was doing what gerrard is doing now but supported attacks better
Any thoughts?

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I couldn't agree more. gerrard looked lost. however as u say were in a good position at this stage of the season. Beating them at the emirates was always going to be a challenge. Heads up for the next game at home. Utd - arsneal next game so fingers crossed for a draw to make up ground

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Agree. Arsenal midfield basically walked past him and Lucas whole day. The midfield let us down big time today. Time for a shake up.

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Alex, interesting how after a game were we played so badly and for me only maybe 2 players (Skrtel and Sakho) played anything near what they can you single out Gerrard for criticism, I would expect it to be a tough game for a thirtysomething against the quick interchanging play of Arsenal, funny how your blue eye Henderson escaped criticism even though he was lost when he had a run on goal and didn't know what the hell to do with it and eventually had a shot what can only be described as
embaressing. I know he made the chance himself but you would expect a box to box midfielder (i think that's what he is) would know what to do when he reaches the oppositions box.
I agree Gerrard was poor today.

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Henderson not blue eyed boy by any means, don't personally think he is good enough for title challenging side but I so think he is the best box to box midfield option we have so for this season I think he should play as we need that energy but no long term he needs to severely improve his quality and final ball or be replaced. We all played poorly today however if you read the post I have stated I have thought it for a while but sometimes could just be form however we have now seen him in ten or eleven games and feel that really it is clearly more like a loss of fitness/speed/drive than it is form and at his age I don't see how he could be chosen based on current form and current ability.
In our system we need someone sweeping up at the back and breaking up play which he is not great at as proven with England when he goes wandering and they are exposed, can't play the energetic box to box player and no longer seems to be able to be the creative spark supporting attacks

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Adam, our best box to box centre mid who hasn't got a clue what to do with the ball when hevgets near the oppositions box, we are F****D

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I meant Alex not Adam

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Iv got no problem with admitting that we will never challenge for title until Henderson is replaced or improves so we agree on that. However I don't feel we have any other player who has the pace and energy and tackling to play that role, gerrard too slow, Allen to slow and not energetic enough, coutinho too lightweight and same for Alberto so no matter how bad anyone may feel Henderson is if we want to play a box to box midfielder he is really out only option in my eyes. Whereas as for gerrard position he could possibly be replaced by Allen Alberto or coutinho

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02 Nov 2013 19:25:53
Second best today, I think we were taught a lesson in pass and move football.Still not convinced we have enough quality in midfield to play tiki-taka.Onwards and Upwards.

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We shelved "Tiki Taka" last season man. It's counter-attacking style type of football now. But with our midfield, it's like going racing without any wheels.

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You still have to control the ball in the middle, you can't counter attack outside the oppositions penalty box.Henderson did try, but look what happened.

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02 Nov 2013 19:24:27
Think this performance could do the team some good. Needed to be humbled. Sturridge was sulking so hard at the end, good to bring him back to earth. Just wasn't a good day for us. Effort was there.

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What effort? You just tell me? Toothles, spineless and clueless don't even come close to what we were tonite (˘̯˘ )

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I'm sorry just because we had a bad day doesn't mean the effort wasn't there. That was such a foolish statement. We gave ourselves a chance to get back into it and it wasn't our day. The team worked hard, we are all frustrated, but we move on. We r still in second. I won't be complaining bout that

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02 Nov 2013 19:23:05
Before everyone goes crazy and starts over reacting, losing today doesn't effect our season objectives! Top 4!
Yes we had a goal wrongly ruled out but I doubt it would have changed the result.

Anyone would have struggled against Arsenal today, they were very good.

Top 4 ambition remains.

Onwards and upwards

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Arsenal were better. so.

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Correct

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02 Nov 2013 19:22:12
Clearly a little short today, pity . However Sakho looks like he is becoming a confident defender .

Big decision for BR whether to play 3 defenders or 4 in the next game .

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02 Nov 2013 19:19:27
Henderson lovers I ask why you rate him

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You seriously can't be questioning Henderson when Gerrard and Lucas were shocking.

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Agree with AG. Hendo had to put in an extra shift because our 2 holding midfielders could not cope with Cazorla and Ramsey

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Agree pal, Henderson should be getting a central midfield place, Stevie looks shot after 60 mins, and when was the last time he had a long range shot, is ther an underlying issue?

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Rob b, what position did Henderson play today?

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Blinkered comes to mind? As everyone with half a brain has pointed out, Gerrard brought nothing to the game today and Lucas was very poor. Henderson was the only midfielder supporting the attack. We missed Johnson today, flanno didn't do much wrong, but not much right either. If we play with wing backs, they NEED to support the attack. We looked much more frightening when we switched to four at the back so I wonder what Brendan will do next week. Not the end of the world today, just wish clowns like you could open their eyes when placing blame.

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Right of central in a 5 pal, I meant central in a two

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Exactly, wingbacks need to be able to do both jobs, with the emphasis on quality inte last third, I love Gerrard to bits, but the fact that he carried us for a few seasons has taken its toll on him, I have nothing but admiration and respect for Steven Gerrard but quite simply he is not the player he was and looks like he needs a rest, him and Lucas together are too pedestrian

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Rob b, Henderson never played in a strict right side if middle 5, if he did or was supposed to he was out of position manny times today, who you pair him with in centre of midfield 4?

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Yeah he runs all day but headless chicken on the ball in no lucas and Gerrard where bad but everytime I watch Liverpool Henderson is shocking on the ball seriously not good enough Gerrard ain't a deep playing midfielder alonso wouldn't be a bad shout and lucas is good but just doesn't do enough mash was never replaced either was alonso our hole midfield is not good enough

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Lucas and Alonso next to each other in CM? Arsenal would've scored 5.

Allen an Hendo in a 3 man midfield with a strong, pacy DM. That's the way fwd. Lucas an Stevie in front of a back 5 are just like cones on a training field this season.

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02 Nov 2013 19:12:02
Mmmmmm.
Let's get it out of the way, we looked pretty bad tonight.
It's not time to slag off every player though.
Sometimes you just hold your hands up and accept that you were, very much, second best.

So Gerard was too slow. yes. But they made him look slow.
Flanagan out of his depth. Yes. They made him look out of his depth.
It was their night and let's just accept it.

Well played Arsenal full stop.

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Disagree. Flanagan was OK, but very poor in an attacking sense, when it came to crossing.

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02 Nov 2013 19:09:46
If Agger comes in, then we have that team that should have startet

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02 Nov 2013 19:04:52
For all those that keep thinking our midfield is the best thing since sliced bread. this game highlights what we're missing.
Little or no decent service to strikers (how often do u see Giroud dropping back to half way line to pick up the ball?). not very effective at pressing . Taking players on or one touch pass and move.
Only thing I can say is poor lads have toiled hard.
Some may argue against me, fine, but Giroud isn't anywhere as good as Suarez or Sturridge and misses lots but does he get plenty of opportunities or what?
Ah well. least we will still be top 3 for another week.

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02 Nov 2013 18:58:42
Why do we pass the ball so slowly? I feel like we move in slow motion while Arsenal look like they are an Xbox team?

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02 Nov 2013 18:57:37
As poor as I've seen Liverpool in a long time tonight. Miles off the pace. Incredibly slow with technique of a good number of the boys way behind what is needed if serious about getting into top 4 .

A big ask for young Flanagan coming in to a game like that so can't be too critical but other more experienced players looked like rabbits in the headlights.

Lets learn the lesson and move on.

Elderslie Red

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02 Nov 2013 18:33:45
Thanks for doing that request Ed002! {Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}

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02 Nov 2013 18:33:31
Has anyone seen Lucas???

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Nope about as lost as shergar

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02 Nov 2013 18:31:27
Allen, Aspas, Alberto, Assaidi, Tiago, Borini, all for the future. Can we please sign players for now BR. Hope common sense prevails soon.

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02 Nov 2013 18:43:24
9.5 matches - 1 midfielder goal in open play - no words for this!

Suarez fouled - quick free-kick ball in net - not allowed. I always thought that a free-kick was meant to be an advantage to the fouled player

DM2013

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I agree so much with this post, this rubbish about buying for the future is nonsense, you've got to get the balance right, players who can play now and have plenty of years left in them not guys that you hope will be good enough, the academy is supposed to produce those future stars.

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I believe the Arsenal booking has to take place, when the play is stopped for the same foul, before the free kick can be taken .

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02 Nov 2013 20:00:25
Rubbish. Future starts is the tag given to Flop transfer signings. all of the above signings have been flop.

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No it doesn't, advantage can be played and player booked after when appropriate

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02 Nov 2013 23:14:48
The fact is plain and simple, not just in this match but all the time. Players are fouled in order to give a defending team a chance to get more players between the attack and the goal.This is all wrong. The attacking side should be allowed to take the free kick as soon as possible whether the defenders are in place or not. I also believe that the free-kick should be advanced by ten yards and this would be a way to stop the cinical fouls that are all too often made in the current game.
DM2013

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02 Nov 2013 18:31:26
For all those thinking that gerrard should be dropped today will enchance what they think even more I for one do not argree that he should be dropped but I do think brenden needs to have a word with him with regards to postioning he's leaving lucas to go out wide an close down that should be henderson an gerrards job lucas has to stay central an pick up the midfield runners from arsenal stevie is just going were he wants in todays game. Also there's no control in the midfield today it seems like the talk all week of how good the SAS are so its literaly get to them as quick as we can an let them do it all there's no build up at all il admit its not helped by johnson an enrqie being out as flano an aly don't look comfortable on the ball just now.

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Rubbish, Gerreard has turned into Beckham in his last years at Utd, he always wants the killer pass and misses way way way more times than he gets it right. We end up in trouble every time, he needs to go back to simple passes first and foremost or make room for someone else. And on today's performance I'd play anyone else in his place

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02 Nov 2013 18:30:18
We seriously have to stop Arsenals 1-2s around the box. We need to track the runners. That's what did us on the goal. Flano should have come inside to pick Cazorla up.

Must improve in the 2nd half otherwise I can see them scoring again.

2nd best so far.

come on red men!

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02 Nov 2013 18:51:53
and the worst part. Ozil is having an awful game by his standards, Yet they are ripping us.

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02 Nov 2013 18:23:20
Still believe we can win this, a goal for us and its anybody's game.Sterling for Flanagan and Coutinho to come on, keep the faith!

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Are you kidding? They are faster and fitter (who is training our team, very slow and lethargic), they are way more skillful ( we have a poor midfield), they want the ball more and chase us all the time ( do our players not realise this is to go top of the league).
We've just found out how good we truly are.

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02 Nov 2013 18:22:55
RODGERS MUSTTTTTTTTT change it up for the 2nd half

toure right back. and use 433 . and just tell sturridge to play on the left for 45 mins and bring on coutinho for flanno

we must use the creative players we have now in the 2nd half in either coutinho or moses. and use a flat back 4. atleast for the rest of this game. I think we can get a point here

but 352 against arsenal ain't working

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02 Nov 2013 18:22:35
Henderson needs to realise that he is there to work hard, close people not stand off them and look lost. Also mclaughlin is ahead of flanagan for the u21 so why isn't he playing at rwb? This is why coutinho is needed. So that our wing backs don't have to contribute in attack in the final third.

Hope coutinho comes on and hendo needs to be sacrificed or flanagan. We have three cms yet we are playing like we a 2

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02 Nov 2013 18:17:08
Flan no has done ok for himself, with no mistakes. Just doesn't add anything going forward. I hope we being on Coutinho, bench Flanno, and have Hendo drift out right.

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02 Nov 2013 17:54:41
Well, I am all for giving young Flanno a game, but against Arsenal is suicide. We may get beaten handily today. Three at the back against Arsenal?

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02 Nov 2013 17:53:47
Chasing shadows and being over-run in every part of field, guess we know now how good we are. Could be destroyed here today, Gerrard too slow, dare I say it.

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02 Nov 2013 17:51:01
Cissokho to blame there. Should never have got that cross in.

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02 Nov 2013 17:23:26
Flanagan eh? Guess he's proven himself to BR. Personally would have gone with Kelly or shifted Hendo wider with Allen supporting Lucas behind SG, Be happy with a point.

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02 Nov 2013 17:14:22
Flanagan is not even championship level. That's why he is still at the club and not on loan. Why ain't Kelly playing is Glen is sick.

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02 Nov 2013 17:02:32
just had a look at the arsenal team for todays game lads the bench is woeful there def there for the taking.A midfield 3 of ramsey arteta an rosciky we can def over run them here .
attack from the off press high an hard an we could be out of sight by half time an they have no one 2 change the game from the bench .

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02 Nov 2013 16:53:50
Flanagan starts, no Johnson.
really looking forward to this one,
Come on Liverpool!

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02 Nov 2013 16:45:32
Flanagan starting the game today ahead of Kelly and Agger. Johnson is out through illness. God save us.

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Ulp. Fingers crossed.

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Why don't you try accepting that flanno plays for a reason. Get behind the team and the manager and stop putting them down before they've kicked a ball? I truly despair at times

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Guess flanagan will be subbed for coutinho during half time break if things go bad, that's the plan as coutinho can't play the full game.! just a feeling.

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02 Nov 2013 16:41:11
Our injury probe players are driving me nuts! Johnson out injured again, Flanagan shouldn't be playing in a game if this quality, Enrique just starting to get good an all of a sudden he misses 3 games out of nowhere. Same goes for agger over the years. We need to replace these guy asap. We had a great chance if beating arsenal today now we are MUCH Weaker!

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Johnson is ill.

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02 Nov 2013 16:40:06
Flano starting is a shock. I did think BR rated him. Very surprised Kelly isn't chosen in front of him.

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02 Nov 2013 16:38:08
Would have thought that Kelly would have started in front of Flanagan. Can only assume Flanagan has shown something in training.

come on red men!

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02 Nov 2013 16:11:14
Big, big party in Bostons today. Just amazing to see. Hope to see the same in Liverpool in a few months.

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02 Nov 2013 16:04:06
Just looking at the sunderland game, waiting for the main match to start and wanted to see how Borini was playing etc.

And all I can think of is how awful a player Cattermole is, 2 or 3 attempted tackles before his sending off would of been career ending i'd they connected, absolutely disgusted by his play. Dossena's red was a super sloppy tackle (had to be red but more clumsy then anything else). Borini can really show much as sunderland look terrible overall

Ska-oop

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Two players sent off in the first half stoppage time, Gus Poyet must be gutted.

Sad for Borini, having been subbed because of two reds on his team. Hull City didn't even need to score, Sunderland did that for them as well!

Sagbo upfront with 5 midfielders holding the pitch, maybe Steve Bruce will play two up front against 9 men, oh wait it's Steve Bruce he never plays two strikers. XD Unlucky Borini lad, got a great goal the other day for them, so he's most likely their top goal scorer now and will be in their team next week, aty least until Cattermould decided to try and hurt someone. again.

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02 Nov 2013 15:41:02
Has Boruc of Southampton been on the old vodka again?!

Begovic just scored a goal from a clearance and well inside his own area. Just watching it on youtube and Boruc didn't even move for it, until it bounced then he was scrambling for it.

Keeper's are crazy.

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02 Nov 2013 14:33:16
Newcastle 2-0 Chelsea! Well done!
Extra incentive today boys! Come on Liverpool!
YNWA

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We have to pack the middle. Pack the middle!

the 5, 3, 2 formation should be used. 5, 3, 2!

Johnson and Cissokho/Enrique would be expected to tuck in to defend, tuck to reinforce midfield and also attack. Illustrious wing backs/forwards!

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Lovely, just looked at the live updates to get the early kick off result, expecting a Chelsea stomp away from home and Newcastle earned their money, what a great result for under pressure Pardew and co. Obviously a bonus for us as well.

Puts the 2-2 into perspective as well!

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02 Nov 2013 14:23:33
Just watch the Newcastle-Chelsea game.

Puts our performance there a few agos into perspective.

And why were we interested in paying 30 million pounds for Willian? I think Mikhtaryan is the one we really missed out on.

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Costa is the big one we missed out on! Could you imagine Sturridge, Suarez and Costa up front?!

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02 Nov 2013 14:18:26
I love Ed 02, I admire his support to Chelsea. But. After watching Them against Newcastle. I have 2 outcomes.

1. Newcastle are awful home or away
2. Chelsea play the worst style of play in the PL.
More than 200 million pounds players running from one end to another.

Hazzard lost how to dribble. Mata lost his touch. Willian a good LB.

and they call him spl one. This is argubly the most boring football I have ever seen them play.

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02 Nov 2013 16:04:12
Spot on Harry, what's special about him I don't know. So many quality attacking players but playing crap.

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Chelsea play boring football I agree. They are generally very good at what they do but they bore me every time I watch them. Yawn Jose the boring one

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The Scottish Premier League one? I'll start calling Mr Mourinho Neil Lennon from now on.

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02 Nov 2013 13:50:45
Wilshere out for today game, it's actually bad news for us, as Ramsey is now going to play central mid with arteta holding. Where it would have been Wilshere there with Ramsey out wide (where he's crap) now we'll see gnarby on the right which I really wanted to avoid, the guy is real good.

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I bet Arsenal fans won't see it that way. They'll want JW fit and playing. Let them worry about us mate, we have players that are more than capable of ripping them apart tonight

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Pretty sure Gnabry is injured.

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02 Nov 2013 12:04:45
Sergio Aguero quote

Q: Who are City biggest challengers to the tittle this year.

S.A: Urm Chelsea, Maybe LIVERPOOL

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And u believe him? All this talk of LFC in title talks misses the point. Our target is CL football. For now!

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Chill out, it's just a quote

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02 Nov 2013 11:42:34
ed002 I have seen you saying that you think Liverpool will look to bring in 1 or 2 players in January. What positions do you think we are looking to bring in players for? {Ed002's Note - A midfield player and a left-sided forward.}

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Cheers ed. Do you think the midfield player might be a defensive midfielder? {Ed002's Note - I am not going to get wrapped up in to all of these new fangled positions and line ups and all of that stuff.}

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Any idea's as to who we may bring in?

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02 Nov 2013 10:59:08
Dortmund
Took my son to see them versus Stuttgart. What an atmosphere, the Wall bounced and sang all game. Extend the cop and let's have a red wall of sound.

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Nobody sings in the kop anymore though.
The FA could learn a lot from the German game.

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To be fair MIKEY the FA could learn a lot watching CBeebies as they are clueless imbeciles.

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Should have preseason friendlies against dortmund sometime.

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02 Nov 2013 10:19:03
wiltshire out of todays game, ankle problem

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Wiltshire is wilting already is he?

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02 Nov 2013 10:11:54
Just a bit of team news for todays game Wilshere very doubtful even for the bench.

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02 Nov 2013 00:42:50
Hi Ed's and reds With Rodgers having less than 2 years left on his contract, when will this normally be reviewed by the board or owners? IMO he should be offered a 2 year extension in January. What's your opimions?

Ars 0 - 2 liv

Ynwa

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Rodgers is the only man for this job and he's proving the haters wrong. I had a good feeling about him all of last season even during the stupid draws and ridiculous losses. The problem is if you extend it too much he may become complacent (look at Pardew with Newcastle) but for sure he needs a contract extension ASAP

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02 Nov 2013 00:31:21
Arsenal are going to provide the true litmus test of our credentials this year. It's been hard to tell the exact standard that BRs team has reached so far since, with all due respect, the likes of WBA and Sunderland and Manchester Utd are not exactly going to be battling out the top 4 spots this season.
A win against the Gunners and we have real reason to be optimistic of our chances of reaching the Champions league. A draw or a loss would depend on the type of performance Liverpool put in as to whether our form is a flash in the pan or something more sustainable. I'm sure I'm not alone in worrying that there is a small possibility of getting a drubbing and being brought crashing down to earth, but equally there is a small possibility that we will dominate our individual battles and walk away with a hefty scoreline.
If Luis is let off the leash and our forwards interchange fluidly, I think we will win. Let's just hope there's a sprint race between Sturridge and Mertesacker for the winning goal.

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02 Nov 2013 07:45:11
i wouldn't write off wba just yet steve clarke has them going well.

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Southhampton already brought us back to earth, and am not with most folks saying beating arsenal would prove if we are really contenders that's crap. if we beat them and draw with fulham next week what would you say then?
Beating them should be seen as just another game. winning majority of our home games would be key if we want champions league not winning 1 game

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02 Nov 2013 08:57:19
I agree mostly with Jesse Pinkman here, its not good beating Arsenal 5-0 then losing 1-0 in our next 2 games.
I do however believe that if we beat Arsenal then we have made a very good start with United also beaten. But these big wins are useless without beating the smaller teams.
A few seasons ago we finished 2nd by 2 points and had performed very well against the big teams but drew home and away against Hull and I think we lost against Birmingham, we should take heed of that season!

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If you are referring to the season we finisihed 2nd to Utd, it was a four point gap.

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We only lost 2 games that season, to tottenham and middlesborough

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Jeez, there really is no room for optimism on these pages. I wasn't suggesting that this match is make-or-break for our season just that it will be a good barometer of what standard we are at currently. Of course we need to have consistency against all teams in the league but it is against the likes of Arsenal, Chelsea, etc, that we can judge ourselves more clearly.

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In this league it is not one game that is the test, it is a string of games. A quarter of the way in and room for improvement shows we have the credentials to challenge for top four. In the past it hasn't been the big games that have let us down. It has always been the losses and draws in games we (on paper) should have got three points. For me, in a 38 game season, this is just another game.

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02 Nov 2013 13:50:42
Sorry lads, facts were off but the point was still valid. Yes the Arsenal game is massive as a win against them puts us a direct win up against 2 of the other usual suspects, however the point I was making about the season we finished 2nd, having been the 1st team in history to lose only 2 games and not win the title, is that we performed against the big teams that season too, but floundered and drew against lesser teams, hence the reference to 4 points lost against Hull.
I am not being pessimistic, but getting carried away and over confident is not the way to go, remaining confident yet consolidating our good start is the balance here.
Wilshere out today is massive for us, his ability to drive through the centre is something of our own medicine (Gerrard) and something I feel massively hinders their attacking ability. Flamini is the big miss for them though, no DM when Coutinho will be appearing at some point is of great concern, to Arsene.

I will go with a 2-1 to us today, see, I am optimistic!
Also, great news from Macca that were still after the return of Alonso, his passing ability surpasses anything we currently have and would allow Gerrard a lot more freedom.

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