Liverpool Banter Archive April 30 2015

 

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30 Apr 2015 20:22:29
Simple for me.the owners need to come out and say something on our season.if only to keep the fans onside for the summer. Here's to a new season of hope in our hearts. Buy well in the Window and get a togetherness into the squad and don't let anyone pass our ranks.YNWA

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01 May 2015 09:39:08
Why do they need to publicly say something? Do you really think that FSG are happy with the way the season has unfolded, the talking will be done once the season has finished and Brendan either keeps his job or he's sacked.

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30 Apr 2015 22:41:22
Just watched footballs greatest steven gerrard. best player I've ever seen in my life. Is anything happening when he leaves this summer like a ceremony?

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01 May 2015 03:01:23
Great player who should always be revered as a Liverpool great. The downside is I felt he had his best season in the right hand side under rafa but later refused to play there so not a great club man but an outstanding individual player. For me Xabi alonso was always our best midfielder when at the club. I know many pros have said that Gerrard was the best player they played with and are definitely better judges than me. That said I'm entitled to my opinion and for me Xabi alsonso was always a better centre midfielder due to his awareness and positioning. However in his prime I don't think there have been many better right sided midfielders than Gerrard. Shame he refused to play there

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01 May 2015 09:16:26
He wouldn't have won us the CL or the cup final playing right sided midfield

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01 May 2015 12:06:59
at istanbul he played every position bar keeper, suprised he never went in goal for pens

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30 Apr 2015 22:30:25
One of the long time readers but rarely posts! I am on the side that thinks a change of manager is a must! Opinions. And I know people don't like what ifs because history is history! If Brenda won us the EPL title last year but had all the problems of this year. Would your opinions be different? Even though I'd still be riding a massive high I can't help but think I'd still be thinking he isn't the right fit.

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30 Apr 2015 23:40:26
He would have gained enuff credibility to warrant another year. As it is now and with the way the way he runs his mouth like a narcissistic lunatic in the media, one would think he had won trophies whereas he hasn't a pot to piss in. Get rid!

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01 May 2015 08:36:12
I think this season shows how much Suarez, Sterling, Coutinho, Sturridge drove last year. he was no doubt an important part of that, but they also made team selection easy and may have been scoring almost regardless who was managing them. He also still failed on strategy vs. Chelsea and a few other key games.

Without those players tearing up the pitch, he's shown his propensity to go back to a style of football that makes little sense to me, made some bizarre team selections, switched formations like a schizophrenic and failed play to individuals strengths.

Time to move on, I don't think I've seen enough this year to be convinced even if we signed a few top players he'd use them right.

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30 Apr 2015 21:43:52
This is to lavije,

it seems i was right about the 100k and holding the club to ransom, you asked me how did i know, well in his interview he admitted it himself, if he is knocking back a 100k a week then i think it shows he is holding the club to ransom he has been treated very good by the club and BR he even went on holiday when all other players of his age had to stay and earn their wages instead of going on a paid holiday, i wish i could be treated the same way, this would not have happend if sturridge never had a glass body or we had a better medical department because sturridge has been out that long that something is not right either with him or his treatment

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30 Apr 2015 23:40:28
Him going on holiday was a fault of dreadful management, Rodgers simultaneously alienated the players that weren't allowed on holiday and gave Sterling the idea that he is special.

Also I don't quite know how you think Sterling is holding the club to ransom. I think the eds have said there are issues with assurances or clauses something to that effect, I don't remember. Even if that isn't the case and he just wants to leave the club, let him leave for a big fee. It it part and parcel of the game, I'd love him to stay and grow at the club but if a player really wants to leave they will leave.

Perhaps he is disillusioned by being played at wing back or alone up top etc. when he is clearly best through the middle behind a striker and he isn't the only player or the fact that we have a manager that is tactically naive, failed on every single footballing level this season, horrendous with the media and given the mismanagement under Rodgers this season a likelihood of another season outside of the champions league (and maybe more).

I think this is the best place for Sterling to continue to grow as a player but after this season who could really blame him for not signing a contract, he has no childhood affiliation for the club.

Get rid of Rodgers, bring in a new manager (if the hierarchy don't at least sound Klopp out then we are run from top to bottom by lunatics), hire a (good) DOF and move forward from there.

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30 Apr 2015 19:53:36
Lfc have always spent big money (and failed while doing so) we have a high wage bill this is going on 25 years yes Rogers is the most recent to fail and spend loads (although a lot of young players may turn good) LFC need help we seem to fail in singing our big named players (sanchez willian ect) and over paying for the rest lallana markovic ect we need to look at successful teams ( Chelsea arsenal who are building a very strong squad even wolfsburg have a good transfer plan at the moment) so we need to strip the bad out and rebuild from our policy's and recruitment staff before we invest more money in players

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01 May 2015 08:39:41
We tend to splurge like a kid in a candy store. buy top talent as it comes available, not just the best thing at the time we have the money,

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30 Apr 2015 19:51:14
2+2=5

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30 Apr 2015 22:08:01
when did i post this. ! haha good to see someone agrees anyway. (think this was an autocorrect and accidental "hit post" on the mobile phone)

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01 May 2015 02:11:43
Most sensible post of the day

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01 May 2015 13:39:34
Brendan's new formation maybe Forza

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30 Apr 2015 19:37:10
2015/16 TICKETING. WHERE IS THE LOYALTY AT THIS CLUB
My son Stephen (10065698) and myself travel to at least 14 Premier games and join the auto enrolment scheme every year. We have been on the waiting list for season tickets for god know how long. We travel a 400 mile trip every time we go and for this commit to you we will now be unable to see many of the games next season due to the 15 game rule. Further by being unlikely to see no more than half a dozen fixtures in 2015/16 we will fall down the list for future seasons until such time as we are offered season tickets.
This is an absolute travesty and a kick in the teeth for loyal supporters like us who all in spend around £200 every home game.
If there is any justice all of those supporters who are now missing out on the 15 game rule should:
1. Be give a 24 hour preference for unsold tickets for all games
2. All 14 game supporters this season who will now lose out, should be given preferential treatment whatever the ticket criteria for the 2016/17 season as compensation.
Listen, I understand the problems with a ground extension its time you gave supporters a bit back for the complete inconvenience caused.
We are getting punished in our pocket with kits now changing every season, etc, etc.
This cannot be right. We deserve some consideration otherwise what is our loyalty worth to this club who we support through thick and thin

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30 Apr 2015 21:38:55
Don't buy the new kit then, it looks horrible anyway. but its a shame to hear of your woes patemondo.

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30 Apr 2015 22:10:34
I believe more tickets are being allocated to Thomas Cook for that "MatchBreak" stuff.

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01 May 2015 13:40:48
Are there going to be reduced seats in the main stand next season due to building works?

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30 Apr 2015 19:32:05
Or season is over so in theory wouldn't it be nice to blood some of the younger star in Harry Kane was a nobody boy long ago so why not

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30 Apr 2015 19:06:40
Hi All and Eds,

i would like to hear your views on Sterling please . Putting aside his contract demands how do you rate him as a player as he is at this moment in time, i he was not with us what would you pay for him for the ability he has at this moment in time, not his potential because not all players fulfil their potential well a very few reach their potential, i would put him at the 20 mil mark and in wages 60k a week if that

im asking this because if we were to sell him we would have an idea of how much he is worth and how much other clubs would be willing to spend on him, another reason is because i don't think he will get any better than he is now that's just my opinion and i'm most probably wrong he might come on next season and take another step up in class, i doubt it, for me the only thing he can improve is his goal tally and his decision making, i don't think he will get better at dribbling or become any faster

what do you all think where he will improve????

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30 Apr 2015 19:33:34
To be honest, what we all think we should get in Transfer fee for him doesn't matter one bit. I personally think he needs to sign a contract this summer or be sold to raise some cash to spend in other areas of the pitch.

Having said that, he is 20, very talented and pretty much every team in the PL would like to have him in their squad. He is also English and a full international who plays regularly for club and country. I expect to get big money from his sale if he is sold. Man City perhaps with them looking to freshen up their squad, is a very likely destination.

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30 Apr 2015 20:35:19
I don't think much of him. I think at best he will be the new lennon? I know he is young and he will no doubt get better, I also don't like his attitude, the time when the behind the scenes program was on telly and he back chatted BR at the training session they had at Fenway park? No take what we can now before he turns into Franny Jeffers!

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30 Apr 2015 21:47:03
Before the contract situation I wasn't his biggest fan

Now after publicly admitting he rejected 100 grand a week i'd be happy to sell he will ruin his career if he leaves I think anyway

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01 May 2015 06:41:23
He's English, so add £10m onto whatever you think he's worth.

Like Torres did, he's underperforming and doesn't look interested. His agent has ruined his/our season with him.

If anyone bid £30m, I'd take it.

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01 May 2015 07:15:24
I think Sterling is a good player and will continue to be a good player in the future. I just don't think he will be the great player that everyone expects of him. If say City were to bid for him and he left I wouldn't be all that disappointed if I'm honest.

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30 Apr 2015 18:38:11
hello eds.
1. Is there any interest shown in wassim ben yedder?

2. Considering this season's debacle, is FSG looking to bring in Monchi?

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{Ed002's Note - Not from Liverpool and not that I am aware.}

30 Apr 2015 18:19:41
I know a lot don't see klopp coming but I think were in with a decent shout.

He's said he wants to manage in England

He talked of his admiration for Liverpool last summer (know it doesn't necessarily mean much but still he said it, and I'll take it that he meant it)

Our squad isn't really that bad just needs a decent manager so not like he needs unlimited funds

Arsenal, Chelsea or united aren't after new managers

City will be but he must know 1st bad season and guadiola is in

Can't see him going bayern, he loves the Dortmund fans and built them up so can't see him staying in Germany

Then all the other leagues (bar Spain) are pointless and the English league is the closest you'll get to the German.

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30 Apr 2015 19:16:40
i have not thought about klopp coming to us because he will have better offers from clubs who are in the champs league and man city would be a massive move for him with both champs league and money to burn , he has belief in his own ability so with the money to spend on the players he wants i don't think he will be too worried about failing at man city its a better proposition than our club that is over loaded with attacking mids and with all the injured players who don't seem to recover ,example we all know johnson has gone down the pan but for me heis form only dropped when he started getting injured all the time then there's enrique is he still injured , and last of all there's sturridge need i say anymore , the only reason klopp will come to us is if he really believes he can takes us back to where we belong and that will take a few seasons and the right players not just world class players if he wants to take a project on then we are the club for him

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30 Apr 2015 22:04:55
I to think we would be in with a good shout for getting Klopp. He's proven he respects loyalty, passion and commitment from fans higher than money etc at Dortmund. He knows and respects LFC and am sure he is aware that he will get this at LFC above Man City. Would he go to a team that would drop the first sign of a bad run or a team that has given BR funds, time and chances?!

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01 May 2015 09:23:16
He talked if his admiration for LFC LAST SUMMER, when we were runners up and had qualified for champions league.
Has he talked of his admiration of us this summer?
Nope.
Did he publicly reject any interest in the Liverpool job last time we were looking for a manager?
Yes.

I think many are overplaying his admiration for LFC.

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01 May 2015 11:07:07
Ron

He did publicly reject the Liverpool job last time but that was 3 years ago when he was building up Dortmund.

He wants to manage in England and which jobs are actually out there!

We may not be in the CL next year but the squad we have is capable of getting there the season after under the correct coach.

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30 Apr 2015 18:17:11
With Flannaghan's latest injury it's possible we could have a shortage in this position next season.

If stories are true Johnson will be leaving in the summer, and there's no guarantee we will keep Manquillo for another season.

Therefore we don't have anyone to play in this position. Can is not the answer and I'm in agreement with everyone else that he needs to start playing in midfield from next season.

I can only think of Wisdom if he's not sold this summer and not too sure he could do a job there for us.

With the above in mind shouldn't we be looking to try and strike a deal for Martin Montoya of Barca?
He's still young and a talented player, can play either right back or left back when needed. Also I think his contract only has one or two years remaining and he seems surplus to requirements at Barca.

We could possibly get him for roughly 10 million which would be a good investment.

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30 Apr 2015 19:34:53
Daryl Janmaat perhaps a better option?

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30 Apr 2015 21:23:03
Trippier when Burnley go down.

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30 Apr 2015 21:39:38
Why not give Wisdom, Mclaughlin, Randall or Stewart a chance which we should have done rather than sell Kelly and loan Manquillo who never plays.

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01 May 2015 02:29:59
I liked Glen Johnson's comment yesterday that Liverpool need an overhaul in the Summer. I'll say no more.

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01 May 2015 07:18:30
Would love Matteo Darmian as our RB. I think he is excellent.

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{Ed002's Note - Torino's Matteo Darmian is seen as an option by Real Madrid, Fenerbahçe, Inter Milan, Chelsea and Napoli. He has previously been looked at by Manchester United and by Barcelona but neither side is showing interest now. Inter are looking for a player exchange deal and Chelsea want to give a player and some cash - but that would only happen if Ivanovic does not sign an extension and decides to me on. Napoli is probably not going to be viable. Real Madrid will look to a straight cash deal. Certainly a move is on for the summer and others may come calling.}

01 May 2015 09:42:00
Understand Ed002, I hadn't seen anything linking him with us, just stating that I think he is excellent and would love him here.

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{Ed002's Note - Try the search engine for him.}

30 Apr 2015 18:07:08
For crying out loud Ings is not good enough.
We are still Liverpool football club.
Better players will be attracted if we want them.
Let's aim high.
Shoot for the moon if you miss you can still sign a star.

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30 Apr 2015 19:18:31
i agree i don't see how Ings would take us to the next level and score 20 to 30 goals a season because that's what we need

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01 May 2015 09:18:28
Well said. we already have a player like Ings at the club in Origi who are both at the same level right now and Yesil as well. If the club is serious about finishing in the top4 next season, then they need to go for a proven commodity. Signing another half decent and injury prone striker like Ings is certainlly not the way to go about it. Decent player no doubt but will not make the required impact at LFC imo.

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30 Apr 2015 17:46:47
Ed01,

saw something online that said one of the guys you liked, Bielsa, was probably out at Marseille. would he be a candidate for DOF, or is he strictly a managerial candidate?

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{Ed001's Note - he would be a manager, and yes he is set to move in the summer.}

30 Apr 2015 18:55:09
Would you have him over all other candidates except Klopp Ed01?

Why is he leaving Marseille

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{Ed001's Note - yes and that is not my area, Ed002 would be the better person to ask on that.}

30 Apr 2015 19:32:10
I am right in saying he does not speak English. So we need an interpreter. He advised BR when the team was failing and we then went on a great run.

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{Ed001's Note - nothing wrong with a translator, the great Bobby Robson managed very well with a certain Jose Mourinho translating for him at Barca.}

30 Apr 2015 23:45:09
Exactly, Ed. Coaches have translators so never a prob there. Only in England is this a problem which is ancient and stupid in itself.

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01 May 2015 07:20:32
Would love Bielsa. I think he would be fantastic here.

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{Ed002's Note - You don't see language as an issue?}

01 May 2015 09:26:05
Maybe we could have Rafa as his translator.

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01 May 2015 09:54:35
I don't see it as a major issue myself. AS Ed001 has stated, there is nothing wrong with a translator. I don't see it as any more of an issue than us signing players not knowing a word of English. I may be wrong but I would assume he would have a basic grasp of English, I am guessing he didn't know French before he went to Marseille.

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{Ed002's Note - His English is pretty much non-existent; he speaks decent French.}

01 May 2015 10:32:11
Didn't know that Ed002, thanks.

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30 Apr 2015 16:36:08
Not LFC related but R.I.P. Gregory Mertens.

YNWA

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30 Apr 2015 14:22:39
Quick question for Ed.1 if you're about.

What do you think is the best way to go about setting the team up in regard to getting the best out of coutihno and hendo? In other words, i think playing to their strengths would see us in our best light.

I think they've been our 2 best players consistently all season. Is it a simple task, considering the need to utilise the abilities of sterling, lallana, marko and probably others?

If that makes any sense. thanks in advance.

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{Ed001's Note - Coutinho is simple, he needs to be given a free role, to go where he wants on the pitch, where he believes he can do some damage.

Henderson is a box to box midfielder and he has to be played that way, not as a right wing back or whatever other position he sometimes get shunted into. The rest of the team should just be placed around those two, to suit their strengths and the opposition's weaknesses.

It does need to be slightly varied depending on who we are facing, but in the main a back four provides better balance to support those two, and a holding midfielder is essential, to allow those two freedom.}

30 Apr 2015 17:41:07
Ed1 wanyama would be good as the holding mid??

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{Ed001's Note - not good enough on the ball for me.}

30 Apr 2015 18:28:17
Lars bender ?? He's available aswell

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{Ed001's Note - I would love us to get both of those Bender bros, just to see how many shirts were sold with their name on the back!}

30 Apr 2015 18:37:49
interesting question King.

to continue the thread, who would you guys like to see as the DM? Realistically?

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30 Apr 2015 18:51:13
If Lucas leaves, then Gonalons for me, Can as backup. If Can isn't a CDM since I can't figure out where he is supposed to play, then maybe Geis from Mainz.

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30 Apr 2015 19:02:12
Realistically Lars Bender
Any interest from any clubs in hin ed? I remember arsenal looking at him last summer

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{Ed002's Note - Not from Liverpool.}

30 Apr 2015 20:31:40
Klopp to come and bring the Bender twins with him. A man can certainly dream

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30 Apr 2015 21:53:55
Mmmm. probably the best system would be the only one we haven't played this year, the diamond. CDM to protect Hendo, Coutinho in a free role behind 2 strikers who create movement to make the most of his vision (or space he can play into). Only problem is its narrow but didn't do us too badly last season and with a top DM and a back 4 we should be defensively OK.

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30 Apr 2015 14:56:22
heyy eds, Sad to hear that young Jon Flanagan has suffered another serious set back. will he still be offered a new contract or. ?

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{Ed002's Note - See previous answers.}

30 Apr 2015 14:03:56
Sad to hear that young Jon Flanagan has suffered another serious set back. Another 9 months will be hard but I hope the lad doesn't lose heart.

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30 Apr 2015 14:43:31
Release him this summer and buy someone or give McLaughlin a chance at it

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30 Apr 2015 15:01:17
It's absolutely gutting. I think this will end his career at the club.

Teixeira has had similarly bad luck. Martin Kelly is living proof that kids just don't come back from 2 years of missed development.

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30 Apr 2015 15:21:04
The lad has the potential to be one of the best, I sincerely hope this doesn't knock him too far down! fingers crossed for a speedy recovery

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30 Apr 2015 16:25:36
He had to prove his fitness to earn a contract so I'd imagine he won't get one now. If he isn't signed up by another club then it wouldn't surprise me if Liverpool allowed him to get treatment through the club to help him recover.

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30 Apr 2015 16:39:41
Really gutted for Flanno. I really do not see a way back for the lad at LFC, at least as a first team player. The club definitely needs a new RB in the summer. Manquillo and Wisdom are not good going forward and do not provide the necessary width to stretch the play, so a new RB is a must this summer with one of Manquillo or Wisdom as back up. Shame as this would really sting whatever little of the transfer kitty is available for more important positions like GK, ST and CM.

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30 Apr 2015 18:32:50
Gutted for Flanno. YNWA

It's a tough call for the club now, like Sean said I thought he had to prove his fitness to get a new contract. 😔
He was quality when called apon.
Be strong little scouser.

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30 Apr 2015 19:37:46
"Potential to be one of the best" is stretching it too far. He is a very good squad player and it is really unfortunate that has happened to him again. Wish him a speedy and full recovery.

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30 Apr 2015 13:45:31
McNulty's done a reasonably fair article on our season on the BBC Sport website.

Interesting gaggle of trolling comments however as it was a HYS article!!

He still gives BR another season, but as Ed001 said, journos love him as he gives them so many daft soundbites!

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30 Apr 2015 14:13:44
The situation is repairable for me - a couple of quality strikers.
Put a fully-fit Sturridge and a Sanchez in our side, and it would be top four no problem.
I did post earlier about the high press and the front three but it hasn't made it.

Liverpool's play last season was characterized by an aggressive first half press, get a goal or more up, then sit back and counter with pace.
Why oh why did we buy strikers not suited to this style. From Sánchez, who would have been perfect, to Lambert and Balotelli who are not.
If Rodgers truly did not want Balotelli that in itself is a massive credit. He is plainly trying to make the most of a monumental mess up.

To say Liverpool have not pressed is untrue, it just hasn't had the end result. Chances were missed, runs not made, no counter attack (can't think of many gods scored this year on the break at all), no long ball escape to overcome the counter press.

It has all revolved around the poor attacking options we now have. What was the best attack in the league to one of the least effective. That's a large part of the problem and will, I suspect, be central to Rodgers submission to FSG at the end of the season.

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30 Apr 2015 17:52:16
Juicer

Don't know why people are disagreeing with you , I think everything you have said is spot on.

We've had the chances to put teams to bed but we haven't had the same bite as last year.

What went from a fast attack has turned into balotelli slowing it down and sterling whos shooting leaves a lot to be desired.

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30 Apr 2015 18:50:46
The press is a means to an end, not the end.
Southampton under Pochertino were excellent at it, and I was very impressed with his Spurs team at Anfield, but neither of them are playing CL football as a consequence. You've got to have the strikers to finish off the effort.
Milner would be a good addition to the midfield to affect the press, but getting Sturridge on the park, Origi and one or two quality other strikers will make a world of difference to our play. If the money isn't there, we may have to sacrifice Sterling to raise it, though I really hope that is not necessary.

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30 Apr 2015 18:52:44
The press is a means to an end, not the end.
Southampton under Pochettino were excellent at it, and I was very impressed with his Spurs team at Anfield, but neither of them are playing CL football as a consequence. You've got to have the strikers to finish off the effort.
Milner would be a good addition to the midfield to affect the press, but getting Sturridge on the park, Origi and one or two quality other strikers will make a world of difference to our play. If the money isn't there, we may have to sacrifice Sterling to raise it, though I really hope that is not necessary.

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30 Apr 2015 19:38:42
And what will BR give as an excuse for buying those attacking players who have been ineffective in the first place, The Juicer?

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30 Apr 2015 19:58:49
Good grief, is it a case that 3 of you on here think repeating yourselves with platitudes towards Rodgers enough times will placate and make us believe your deluded attitudes?
Frankly, your empathy, with no concept of self responsibility in regard to Rogers suggests that you couldn’t run a piss up in a brewery! It’s obvious your arguments are based on nothing but sentiment and lack of ambition and little/victim man mentality. The guy is paid big bucks. He’s failed, so shall we just say “oh never mind, give him another chance”. Christ, if the world followed you 3, we would still be living in caves with the one eyed man as king. In other words you are talking bollocks.

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30 Apr 2015 20:37:39
AG, I do not know what happened with the striker recruitment.
It seems Rodgers did not want Balotelli but the transfer committee did, so presumably this is some kind of democratic forum that votes on these things ?
The strikers apart (and I'm not saying that they are bad players in themselves, just the wrong fit), I think that we have bought well last Summer.
There seems to be agreement that it should be a top four squad.
Adding the right strikers will make a massive difference.

E-S, a collective approach has been put in place towards player acquisition so it is not correct to then blame one person for it's failure.
If you don't agree with my point about the strikers, what would you do as an alternative. Apart from sacking Rodgers which you, and others, also have repeated endlessly ?

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30 Apr 2015 23:54:01
Juicer, you are wrong. Per Ed01, BR had the chance to stop the Balo signing like he did with the Remy and Bony signing but he choked and did nothing. He is a part of the committee you speak of and he has the final say on who gets signed and nobody has forced any player on him since he came here and the committee was only set up last season so blaming them is a cop out which means you must be listening to the mindless drivel he is spouting in the media. If the committee goes which they should then as part of the committee, he should go as well

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30 Apr 2015 21:59:22
Juicer we could have Aguero, Jovetic, Kane, Drogba, but I doubt he'd know how to use them.
Therefore in answer to your question, if we couldn't sack Rodgers then we are sconed

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30 Apr 2015 13:22:37
With the news of Flanagans latest injury set back do the eds know what will happen with his contract situation? Would be a shame to see him be released into the wilderness with no chance of signing for another club due to his injury. Plus I was desperately hoping he would come back so we can get rid of manquillo (waste of money). I know it's probably to early to say but do the eds think this might have an impact on wisdoms future?

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{Ed002's Note - It will make no difference.}

30 Apr 2015 14:10:09
What is the club interest to sign a new contract with him in these circumstances? By the way what happen if we don't sign him, does he have some insurance to pay for the time he is injured?

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30 Apr 2015 17:54:45
Maybe a non-playing role. Didn't Richie Partridge train as a physio or something?

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30 Apr 2015 11:22:56
Ok I run an airport transfer company 3 x 8 Seater minibuses I do football away trips festivals etc I was wondering how much it would be to advertise my website is www sefton- travel

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30 Apr 2015 18:26:23
Why do people press di

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30 Apr 2015 12:37:45
Everyone seems to be shouting for Klopp to replace Rodgers, but why?
Klopp has only managed 2 clubs and has win rate of 49%
Rodgers has managed 4 clubs and win rate of 45%
Is this just change for changes sake or am I missing something? The last time I checked Dortmund were also having a terrible season.

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30 Apr 2015 13:26:49
I find it laughable that you have ask that question.

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30 Apr 2015 13:51:35
Klopp has had to operate on a shoestring budget whilst competing against a Bayern team who completely dominate German football to the extent where they've actually cherry picked Klopp's best players in recent years. He has seen his team repeatedly dismantled and yet he still manages to put some passion into his players.

This season Dortmund have had ridiculously bad luck with injuries and they haven't got a very large squad as finances at Dortmund don't allow it. Yet he has still taken them to a cup final and will still finish 5th judging by current form.

You are looking at the stats without considering the circumstances even remotely. Klopp is in a different league to Rodgers. Whilst Rodgers has had one good season in 3, Klopp has had one bad season in about 5. He still got to the CL knockout stages though and still looks set to pick up silverware.

What has Rodgers won aside from 45% of his matches? That's something to tell the grand kids about!

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30 Apr 2015 14:06:09
Klopp had also had he's squad cherry picked by Bayern . Goetze lewandowski and kagawa, at the time bundesliga player of year to United . Gundogan blawosakowski out for most the year . 2 bundesliga a champs league final, and a German cup is brilliant there . It's a similar league in terms of prem . And he's took them back from the dark days . Fair worse than what we are at now . To not even enquire as the Edds have said , is criminal . Try and if you fail fair enough . But ask the question

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30 Apr 2015 14:08:49
Klopp is by far the best out of the two. Both in terms of management and character.

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30 Apr 2015 14:26:17
Dortmund have had a poor year by their standards, true. But they are 1 point below 7th and 3 points off 5th, while we are 1 point above 7th. They've also won one trophy already this season and in the final to perhaps win another. Klopp's response to potentially finishing 5th with 2 trophies was to ask to be released from his contract. Rodgers response to finishing between 5th and 7th with no trophies was to proclaim we would make marquee signings in the summer and we would challenge for the title next year.

You're also ignoring that Klopp has managed first teams fit 14 years, Rodgers for 7 now (half of those at Liverpool).

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30 Apr 2015 14:33:12
What is laughable AG is listening to this constant Klopp, Klopp, Klopp.
Like the kin Grand National.

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30 Apr 2015 14:45:46
Klopp might have an admiration for Liverpool but so what ?
Arda Turan is apparently a fan, Luke Shaw is supposed to be a Chelsea fan, so what ?
It won't make a blind bit of difference as to where he ends up, which won't be at Liverpool I would wager.

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30 Apr 2015 15:11:46
''You are looking at the stats without considering the circumstances even remotely.''

EMS :)

you make me smile sometimes mate.

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30 Apr 2015 15:21:47
Bring Klopp in over Rodgers anyday

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30 Apr 2015 16:06:26
Some stats don't like though mate.

2 league titles competing against one of the best team in the world, a team that have made it to 3 of the last 6 champions league finals!

Has also won 4 cups and got to a CL final and works with a wage bill that at the start of this season was 30% lower then QPRs.

As for this season think losing his best players year on year to his rivals plus a lot of injuries probably didn't help! Saying that if he wins us two league titles and 4 cups in what 6 years I would be very content!

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30 Apr 2015 19:38:00
If we tried for turan we'd a have signed him marquee enough for me 😉 (even tho we have 6 players in his positioned)

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30 Apr 2015 19:41:49
People are just hopeful The Juicer. As for the OP, there really cannot be any relevant comparison between Klopp and Rodgers where Rodgers comes even remotely close to Klopp at pretty much every level - trophies, success, style of play, coaching, managing, building a team, having to deal with his best players being picked off etc.

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30 Apr 2015 23:57:09
The OP is using worthless stats to make a disingenuous point. Klopp and BR will NEVER be in the same class and I will not explain why because explaining it alone would be a waste of my time.

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30 Apr 2015 12:22:57
Hi eds, quick question do you see Klopp being a replacement for Rodgers? I can't see it happening if anyone to replace Rodgers I can see it being frank de boer its the only one I can think of, he's only the one that can come from Ajax and be at a club with more money and better players I also like the way he goes about football, just the thing with klopp he's not going to leave Dortmund which got better players and be on the same wage at Liverpool.
Also Macca thinks James Milner all but done so what is your view on that signing, I personally think it be a good signing because I think we missing a dirk kuyt and James Milner reminds of the same type of player don't stop running for the team.
Thanks eds hope you get back first time.

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30 Apr 2015 12:12:23
am I the only one who wants to keep borini? I think with him upfront, we would have played better football
just my opinion

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30 Apr 2015 12:33:03
Its hard to tell , when he has played he's looked useless.

Though I suppose it doesn't help never getting any game time.

If we could sell him for 10mil ish I think we would do better getting ings and having cash left over.

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30 Apr 2015 12:45:23
The club would have probably tore your arm off for the £10-12m that was offered for him last Summer. As it is, he didn't want to leave.
But the extra funds might have averted the striking options we were left with in the end.

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30 Apr 2015 13:14:24
He would not be the first striker out the door in an ideal world.

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30 Apr 2015 15:23:14
+1 to LAVERS - I'd like to see him get more of a chance, but I don't think it'll happen, I reckon he's gone in the summer. Shame in a way, I think he could have been decent given a chance.

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30 Apr 2015 17:57:08
In all honesty footballbasement is have played borini or Lambert ahead of balo.

At least borini given a run of games would try to improve where as balo couldn't care less.

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30 Apr 2015 18:15:55
I would sell him for the right money which was offered last year

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30 Apr 2015 19:53:27
its a shame he never got a good run in the team he would have linked up well with couthino and scored more goals than sterling sunderland wanted him so he must have something if they were willing to pay for him , what gets me is he is similar to joe allen as in how good he is and the level they are at but where allen got games he never that's another reason that i think Br should go becuase he pi ks his favourites not what's needed for the team , we need goals we have done all season and i think borini would have scored more goals than joe allen i know they play in differnt positions but we have been lacking goals so BR should have used his strikers not midfielders

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30 Apr 2015 12:07:29
I happy to hear that heads has started rolling, it won't be long untill we heared the news of the real culprit has also got the chopping. Kenny & Commoli along with Jen Chang was axed because of their transfer dealings and the Suarez saga, but we thank god that their transfer dealings were able to carried us last season to the dream land where people like BR has suffered a 'day dreaming disorder'. we will wait to see how it ends. to my honorable Eds, you made mention that Klopp is yet to be contacted, what of De Boer? i would welcome even Villas Boas.

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{Ed002's Note - Chang went for another reason entirely. Liverpool will look to others when the time is right.}

30 Apr 2015 11:50:21
Watched the U21 v Spurs. Kent and Yesil look ready.

Also liked the look of Whelan. Never seen him mentioned before. Love to see another Whelan in the first team even at RB.

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30 Apr 2015 12:35:27
id get one of them on the bench at weekend and try and give them 20mins

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30 Apr 2015 20:31:40
Yesil is comming of age.
It is really helping him having Emere Can here now.
He seems to be coming on leaps and bounds after the injuries he has had.
He is worthy of a place on the bench.

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30 Apr 2015 11:45:18
If. BR was successful and by that I mean premiership success at Liverpool, has he long term ambitions to manage abroad in Spain in particular. I guess if they came calling would he be loyal to the club or would he leave? I haven't read any indication of this either way on here and I guess it may be a moot point. I wouldn't necessarily trust him to do the right thing.

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30 Apr 2015 11:00:38
This might sound silly but how do I get to the contact form

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30 Apr 2015 11:19:23
At the bottom of the page there is a contact us link. Ed002 I think I can start working here am least as an asssistant ed.

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30 Apr 2015 10:46:09
We all have to get real in r expectation of we're liverpool r right now, we can't compete with at least 4 teams in the the league financially r even professionally as the team has shown lately and earlier in the season .if we were a top team we wouldn't have so many players the manager doesn't like r trust the lack of fight in the team when the chips r dwn is the worse I have ever seen and how a manager can sit and watch as it is obvious the lack of strikers is unforgivable changes have to be made I don't know what they r but the current process is not working I would probably start with brendans p45 and put manquillo, Enrique, Allen, toure, ballotelli, borini, Gerrard legend going anyway, Lambert out the door money brought in r saved in wages can go towards players even just 2 top class players good enough to compete with top 4 clubs and my shout for brendans replacement is koeman.

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{Ed002's Note - Liverpool have been spending more than the likes of Arsenal and Chelsea - the only reason the club cannot compete is because of bad choices over players and having a manager/coach who is light years out of his depth. Look for answers and not excuses.}

30 Apr 2015 11:28:57
Spot on Ed.

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30 Apr 2015 11:29:49
The comparison with Chelsea is a bit milseading because they were abel to keep all their big players as long as they wanted to. We had to sell Mascherano, Xabi alonso, Torres and finally Suarez. Arsenal are more similar to us in that they had to say goodbye to RVP and Fabregas, two top players and still kept themselves in the top 4 (although not fighting for the title). As I keep saying it is not only about buying great players but also about keeping them.

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{Ed002's Note - I know, Liverpool are so hard done by. There should be someone else you can blame for this.}

30 Apr 2015 11:53:13
Ah that's easy, I blame bob Pendelton, the Everton scout who took Wayne Rooney to Everton when he was 9. had we land him in our academy back then, the history would look very different.

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30 Apr 2015 12:02:33
Not that misleading, they were able to keep players because the won trophies consistently. We finished second then if memory serves correct tried replacing alonso with barry (why he left) then replaced him with aquilini. Instead of adding the 1 or 2 quality signings needed to get us over the line.

Also arsenal lost Henry, Fabregas, Nasri, Song, clichey, and RVP as well as Bendtner & Chamakh-attack. but managed to stay in top 4, not spend money they didn't have, & paid off a stadium.

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30 Apr 2015 12:39:06
We have had the money and wasted it for so long , I think it comes down to the fact that we can't compete wages wise with the other big teams.

The transfer fees haven't been an issue.

Top earners at Liverpool are 120grand a week say , but you go to Manchester and there on double that.

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{Ed002's Note - Only a handful of clubs in the world have a higher wage bill than Liverpool - so why are Liverpool only ranked 40 some odd in Europe? It is another pitiful excuse.}

30 Apr 2015 13:02:39
Im not making excuses ed , we have had the money to spend simple as that which we have wasted.

But it also a fact that top earners at Chelsea,city and united will shadow that of our top earners.

Most of our wage bill Is wasted paying top dollar to players who can't even get a game , that is where our problems are.

No excuses just pointing out a fact

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{Ed002's Note - Of the 41 teams ranked above Liverpool in Europe, all but 7 have lower wage bills than Liverpool. It is simply something else to look to as an excuse.}

30 Apr 2015 15:15:18
Exactly ed and 4 of them are in the prem sitting above us

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30 Apr 2015 16:52:09
I would say that most of the 41 teams above us wouldn't be above us if they played in our league. Because they wouldn't finish high enough to qualify for Europe so therefore wouldn't get the points they get now.Or to put it another way if for arguments sake we played in the Dutch league I predict we would have qualified for CL every season and then there wouldn't be 41 teams above us.Don't forget we play in the hardest league to qualify for CL

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30 Apr 2015 18:18:44
We simply are not punching our weight where as last year we maybe did a bit more although no Europe league helped us as well . We need to improve

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30 Apr 2015 18:03:55
Sorry ed I will re phase my posts.

The last thing I want is my posts to sound like excuses because that couldn't be further from my thoughts.

If only all our recent managers had stopped with this obsession of building a massive squad capable of winning the quadruple and focused on buying quality rather than quantity, then maybe we wouldn't be in this mess.

Again you look at our squad and there's probably 10 players which we need to offload in the summer most likely losing money on them all.

We have had the money to buy players and blown the lot so instead of getting fringe players and paying then 60grand a week we should have looked at a couple of world class players and paid them the wages they want.

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30 Apr 2015 08:06:31
Hi Ed's.

I have a few questions I hope you may assist with. If a football club owner such as FSG thought they want a change but only if they could entice the right candidate first.

Can they approach a person or persons club or agent/advisor without informing the current manager?

The other part to this would be is it likely to leak to the current manager in another way by doing so?

I have to say that I personally hope Rodgers and his staff are moved on. I cannot see the benefit of giving Rodgers until Dec as Macca suggested although that is his opinion. If it doesn't work we could be looking at a further 18 months transitition.

thanks

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{Ed002's Note - That would result in a charge from UEFA - if Liverpool want to approach an employee of another club, protocol and the regulations dictate that you approach the club. Liverpool has owners who have gotten themselves a reputation as being disrespectful and I very much they want to make it worse. Planning on getting rid of a manager in December makes little sense as you would need to find someone for the short-term - and choice will be limited. Super Stevie Nicol will however be available.}

30 Apr 2015 18:07:55
There's no point of giving Rodgers until Jan , all it will do is ruin another season.

If fsg want Rodgers out it's got to be done straight away after the season (or before) giving the new manager time to asses the squad and see what changes need to be made.

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30 Apr 2015 22:29:23
I'm not sure about liverpool spending more than Chelsea ed I know they got good money for players but they have paid pretty good wages to get the players they actually wanted and a lot of them came in for decent money so financially to even compare liverpool and Chelsea financially is a bit sad when they have a Russian billionaire who seems to love the club again and wants to play with his toy again but fair play to them deserved champions this year and very exciting to watch even if the arsenal fans don't think so.

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01 May 2015 00:14:24
Yeah ed what about Jose who respects nobody and arsenal with their 50m and 1 pound no respect there imo.

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{Ed002's Note - This obsession with trying to make everything about someone else is truly embarrassing. I have no idea why you think any of this in any way relates to Chelsea, nor why you think Arsenal were being disrespectful when a Liverpool player, desperate to get away from the club, tells his agent to tell Arsenal what they need to do to buy him. As a Liverpool fan you somehow need to get away from this constant how hard done by Liverpool is whilst trying to deflect everything to be about Chelsea, or Arsenal or any other club you are jealous of.

Respect is an important part of the game and particularly important to the major players on the club front. Liverpool are no longer in that elite group and are not, under this regime, going to be welcome back in to it in either the short or medium term.}

30 Apr 2015 10:12:55
Hello eds I'd like to enquire about how much it is to advertise on your site the Liverpool and Everton pages

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30 Apr 2015 09:56:04
Sorry if this has been thrashed out previously (at the risk of annoying the eds) if BR leaves would Rafa be in with a shout for a return? Or. Could he be the DOF being hyped up on a few sites this last few weeks? With BR staying in the hot seat!
Or is all this just stirring sh1t by his own camp or others? ie media hype! If I was FSG I'd move quick, the day after the BPL is wrapped up, I'd make any announcements and let them get on with it. No good leaving it till July and no stability or progress made in transfer market. We need a good start to season so this business (if any) should be taken care of ASAP.

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30 Apr 2015 10:20:24
Based on who'd be interested in the job versus their other options I actually think Rafa is looking more and more like a favourite.

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30 Apr 2015 09:17:44
so basically beteen now and th first game of the season this is what we can expect IMO - at least 8-10 weeks in which nothing happene other than big names thrown to the air as a target for us to sign just to end up in Manu or Arseanl, the slow realisation and the following rage/despair of people here that BR is staying, brining in some players no one fight for with us e.g. Milner and Song, a youth player who never got a chance in one of the spanish teams 9probably for a reason) and maybe just before the transfer winodw closes a Danny Inge as some kind of big hope, making him in the process a small Ronaldo.

Also a lot of Sterling contract talk that will end up with him not signing a new contract but also us not letting him go (and sthis is the best case scenario for him).

All this lead to us arriving to the first game of next season as low in expectations, deflated and desperate as we ever were. Call me a pesimist but this is how I see things unravel in the coming months.

My only hope/request is that if all this happen people will stop arguing with BR and start argue with the owners. If they keep him in his job it is not his fault.

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30 Apr 2015 09:26:19
If nothing changes, Ie same awful transfer polices and missing out on players and Bodgers still here then my opinion will be that it is actually fsg that haven't got a clue.

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30 Apr 2015 10:07:48
Take off the rose-tinted specs fanobip.

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30 Apr 2015 09:04:22
If we cringe when Brendan speaks to the media spare a thought for the leicster fans this morning. That man has a serious attitude problem

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30 Apr 2015 07:35:22
Why does it appear that you only need to be on the books of any semi-decent club and you're referred to as a "Star". Just read about some Real Madrid youth player, never played for the first team, away on loan, but apparently we're interested as back up in case Depay doesn't come, Marca have revealed Liverpool are weighing up a bid for the Real Madrid star, and they could offer in the region of €20m for the player.
How are there so many "stars" in the modern game?

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30 Apr 2015 09:20:31
What a bargain, a star for 20m.

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30 Apr 2015 09:50:08
Answer = Marca

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30 Apr 2015 14:12:36
I agree we don't need Dennis Cherishev but he is a very good player. Far far better than Vazquez who we are also linked with.

Cherishev is having an excellent season for Villareal and creates a lot of chances with industrious play. However I feel all our attacking players that we buy this season however need good goal scoring records. Cherishev's is not bad but there's better out there. We need more goals in the team in all positions.

Vietto is certainly my number 1 choice of the realistic options mentioned. I really hope we get this guy.

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30 Apr 2015 07:09:34
Watched the game last night on sky, one thing the co-commentator mentioned, apart from what we all know about Suarez and Sturridge contribution, was Skrtel. He scored a good few last season, as did other defenders and this season they've only scored 4 between them. I think Sktrel scored twice that at least on his own.

Why aren't we scoring from corners/set pieces? Suarez set up so many. When we said he hasn't been replaced with a goal scorer, didn't think the class of Lallana or Coutinho could replace his corner taking at least.

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30 Apr 2015 09:21:47
Gerrards set pieces last year were bang on, now whoever takes them it's rubbish.

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30 Apr 2015 07:05:13
I think Klopp is out of our reach he is ready to manage a ready made team in the champions league not re build another Dortmand. The manager I would go for is Ronald Koeman tactically astute, would command the respect of the players & would draw players to LFC more than Rodgers can I listened to a interview with him he has learnt under the best including Cruyff at Barca so we would play good attacking football but have a sound defence !

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30 Apr 2015 09:48:53
Who would your realistic targets be Ed?
I agree with the poster about Klopp being out of our reach. I doubt he'd leave Dortmund to join us. I think he's destined for a bigger job at a champions league club.

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30 Apr 2015 10:28:33
Ed01 do you know if the owners are even interested in klopp? Yes we all think they should be, but are they actually making efforts to get him?
Thanks

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{Ed001's Note - as far as I am aware no contact has been made by the club.}

30 Apr 2015 11:09:15
ED 001 out of curiosity,do you think what he said about building a club was a dig at Pep? a lot been said about him taking Bayern because of their dominance and clout. It did seem an easy option to take in terms of management. I was just wondering if there is any ill feeling there?

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30 Apr 2015 12:15:47
Ed1, respected German journo Raf Hoginstein suggested yesterday that Klopp would "find it very difficult to turn us down" and all that's preventing us from appointing him, as things stand, is his belief that FSG believe in Rodgers and are unlikely to sack him. As you suggest he's all but gone from the Liverpool side of things, and from the German point of view he seems interested, I'm firmly of the belief he's all set up to take over, although I'm not sure whether that's my head or heart speaking!

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{Ed001's Note - like I said, he has publicly admitted an affection for us, so why would he not be interested. He might not take it, but FSG would be idiotic not to go and try and get him. If they make the decision not to approach him, then quite simply every one who is involved in making the decision not to try should never be involved in football ever again, as they clearly have no aptitude for the sport.}

30 Apr 2015 18:37:39
Totally agree with you Ed001. I pray that the people they've brought in to conduct the review, provide advice, guidance and recommendations to move the club forward really know football inside out. And with that, understand that someone like Jurgen Klopp doesn't come onto the market often, and therefore must do everything possible to bring him in.

Imo, I believe BR (and he's really done my head in with his game plan, and interviews) had his day months ago, and that the only reason that FSG hasn't already removed him is because they don't want to bring in a temporary person, hence waiting till the end of the season. Personally, I think he should have gone in December, maybe LFC could have appointed someone from within for the 5 or 6 months!

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30 Apr 2015 20:37:38
Top reply Ed.

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30 Apr 2015 21:22:38
Totally agree that klopp must be approached,nothing ventured ect,he has to be the most interesting option for any club in Europe particularly us after our season/his comments about LFC.Not trying to antagonize a eds because I really enjoy the work /humour you all put in but dare I say it I recently read a article that Bielsa's tactics had been found out in France and his team was struggling for results

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30 Apr 2015 04:57:06
Just read a statistic that Everton's back four have scored more goals this season than our four strikers (its about the only thing they can brag about this year).
There are obviously a number of reasons why we haven't made top four but surely top of the list is that Suarez's goal tally was expected to be produced by a part-time player with glass legs, two strikers with more enthusiasm than ability, and a tweet-obsessive who somehow conned the world into thinking he had talent.
How many games have there been where we've created plenty of chances and no-one can stick them in the back of the net? Sell three of our strikers plus the loanees and spend the lot on a decent goal-scorer with a low track-record for injury. Controversy, disloyalty, misdemeanours and behavioural issues aside, it's a shame that Uruguayan wizard isn't available.

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30 Apr 2015 09:28:20
Tbf strikers have been poor but the team as a whole struggled to create any real chances - atm henderson sterling and coutinho are the only players who look likely to create or score any goals. Can blame the strikers but they are actually decent players who don't seem to fit the system we play. Fact majority of our players don't seem to fit the roles given - moreno is our only player who tries to cross or seems able to (none of our wide players or full backs do or can) coutinho and henderson are the only two who seem to be able to score from outside the box and are strikers don't seem to link up in the box to create space or be able to get behind the defenders and terrible at set pieces, so dunno how else we are meant to score really. Watch any game where teams pack the box and show any form of organisation and we can't score because the team is severely limited in ways to score

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30 Apr 2015 09:32:32
Also forgot to add when we try hit in counter only 2 or 3 players either get forward or have the legs to so doesn't exploit space

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