Liverpool Banter Archive January 30 2016

 

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30 Jan 2016 22:43:23
Eds - this may sound strange and I wouldn't have ever thought it could happen, but sometimes it seems that certain players are picked for the league games regardless of performances.
My question is - do some players have certain clauses in their contracts which ensures they have to play certain games / certain number of games if fit? Or have to play league games if fit?
Reasoning is that over the years certain underperforming players are never dropped in favour of upcoming kids.
When you reach a certain point in the league and you're playing for midtable - financially it doesn't mean too much whether you finish 7,8 or 10th and surely at a certain stage, managers think whether they should buy in the summer or give the kids a chance? Yet this doesn't always happen.

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{Ed002's Note - No.}

30 Jan 2016 21:13:52
Out of the youngster today have to say I was most impressedays by Kevin Stewart.

Was tidy in possession, tough in the tackle and didn't look out of place.

Am I right in thinking he was original a centre back when he was brought in from Spurs?

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30 Jan 2016 21:57:57
I thought brannagan looked a lot better and I think he looks a good prospect . Ibe needs a rest and Benteke need a vacation . A long long vacation.


30 Jan 2016 23:36:20
I was most impressed with Brannagan, personally. Texeira showed promise as well. I thought all of the youngsters represented the club extremely well. The future looks bright.


30 Jan 2016 23:56:50
Stewart and Teixeira both played pretty well, but both are older than Can, so not sure how 'young' they are really.


31 Jan 2016 00:09:47
Stewart played well, Tex not so much. I expected more from him. He needs to stay on his feet more. Unlucky with a couple of shots and off course the sitter that Big Ben didn't pass to him. Its unfortunate that we didn't win, we could have done without the replay.


31 Jan 2016 00:37:34
A lot of good performances today the lads can be proud of their efforts.


31 Jan 2016 00:37:56
Steward is 22/ 23 not a kid. He did okay again brannagan is 19/ 20 is a kid and is performing to the same level. I thought we'd get hammered today pardon the pun but I also expected a younger side and for them to play big hoof. Our decision making in the final and sometimes middle third was the only reason we didn't win because make no mistake West Ham were there for the taking today.


31 Jan 2016 01:18:46
I thought Tex and Ibe were poor and Brannagan and Stewart did well.

Stewart played anywhere at the back during his time at Spurs and started playing in midfield for us.


31 Jan 2016 03:02:03
I do feel Westham was there for taking yesterday. Klopp probably should have put in a more mobile forward e. g Ojo or give Firmino a short run out at the end.


30 Jan 2016 20:32:27
How is Matt Ryan getting on at Valencia does anyone know? We had previous interest, any chance that could be rekindled as we need a new no1 in the summer for sure. Mingolet doesn't cut it for me.

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30 Jan 2016 21:24:44
Bench warmer. He's honestly not that good a keeper. He is poor on crosses and has no presence in the box. Only string point in his game is distribution.


30 Jan 2016 22:03:06
Has one thing on mingolet then πŸ˜‚ Ok thanks for the reply.


30 Jan 2016 22:44:40
I thought he was valencias no1 right now hence other clubs interest in domenech.


30 Jan 2016 22:51:39
No mate, has only played 4 games all season.


30 Jan 2016 23:41:31
Just checked, he's played five and started the last two.


31 Jan 2016 00:21:04
I've seen him a number of times and he's a poor keeper. Doesn't command his area as he's only about 5'10/ 11, isn't s good shot stopper and let's in some pretty soft goals, I would hope if we look at keepers we go for someone competent.


31 Jan 2016 02:32:38
He was injured at start of season then came back as number 2. Fought hard to get back to number 1 with Neville, I personally think he is a great keeper, yes small but disagree with other comments about not commanding box, distribution is amazing and can 'stop' shots!


{Ed001's Note - he is flashy but rubbish. He is number one because of the sale value. The Spanish will tell you Domenech is a much better keeper, while Ryan is seen as a weak link.}

30 Jan 2016 20:07:17
Just want to say that I'm really proud of the youngsters today. Well done boys. Against a very experienced WH, I think we did really well.

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30 Jan 2016 20:46:15
The kids showed why we don't need signings this window. With Ojo, Smith, Stewart and Tex, we have what we need till the end of the season. That was WH's first elen and we outplayed them and based on the full content of the game, should have won it. I also thought Benteke showed some speed n movement as well as good strength to fight off his CB's. Even tho our passing was wayward atimes due to lack of rhythm/ teamwork or eagerness to do well, our boys did the club proud. And what about Pirlo I mean, Allen with the acrobatic scissor kick and all?


30 Jan 2016 20:47:44
Out of curiosity who were the young players?


30 Jan 2016 21:04:22
Anybody under the age of 40 is now young.


30 Jan 2016 21:45:22
Nice to see some positivity and 'grown-up' opinion on the game. I was beginning to think it wasnt possible listening to most of the drivel being spouted on the live chat.

The amount of negativity and harassing of the squad at the moment is getting seriously f*cking beyond and quite frankly embarrassing. It's like listening to a bunch of backseat drivers weighing in with expert opinions on the way the game should be played and managed, nothing constructive. Cross that with the outbursts of annoying 6 year old who constantly throws tantrums and makes his parents blush and I think we're just about there for a lot of posters.

Today's squad, in large, consisted of extremely inexperienced players, players returning from injury and fringe players. If you don't wanna call them young, that's cool but whatever your opinion. the spine of the squad were INEXPERIENCED.

In the grand scheme of things I think they played really well as a whole. Yes West Ham weren't at there best but they fielded a way more experienced side, and if I'm honest when I saw the team sheets I feared we'd get beaten. Quite possibly get our arse handed to us on a plate.

How wrong I was. We were lucky not to come away with a win. I think there were lots of positives to be taken from this game. I applaud Klopp for fielding that side today. I know he had to rotate but having the courage to play that team against what he knew would be a strong West Ham side took balls.

We are in a league Cup final
We are still in the Fa Cup
We are through to the Europa 32
We are 7th in the League.

Yes we didn't get 'Tex' or Ter Stegen but maybe if people had the mental ability to see past the next week or how some other clubs have World-Class names amd we don't it may be possible to understand that in the summer things will be changed and things may become clearer.

I'm not implying this to everyone by the way. There is positivity on here and a lot I enjoy reading from people. but the unproductive, negative 'I don't see where we go from here, this squad is pathetic' bullshit I read day in day out is getting royally on my tits.


30 Jan 2016 22:24:54
Great post Smallsy.


31 Jan 2016 00:41:07
What a difference having a manager who is willing to give kids a shot. Really pleased with the improvement in quality from game to game. While we didn't score, I think the run of play was in our favour most of the match. There's a lot of youth potential which BR would never have discovered. Klopp is like a breath of fresh air.


31 Jan 2016 01:19:23
These 'kids' have grown quickly. From a last gasp draw at Exeter, to a competitive match against our modern day bogey team. I am impressed and happy that we have future players without serious dipping into funds.

A replay just means we get to see them shine again, and important for their growth, education and development. Bring it on, I say.


31 Jan 2016 01:51:18
Ballsy great post mate and spot on Unfortunately todays society is full of 'lounge experts' who find it far easier to tear strips off our guys than actually get off their keyboards and 'have a go'themselves. I have been ashamed of our so called fans lately and am constantly left wondering what 'You'll never walk alone'actually means to all of us.


31 Jan 2016 03:13:27
Sorry Smallsy not Ballsy. haha!


31 Jan 2016 04:20:55
I'm normally a more positive guy too but I don't think having "a manager willing to give the kids a chance" has anything to do with it. He hasn't really had any other choice. That was essentially our 2nd team out there. I like some things about Klopp but the Godlike status he gets on here is kindof absurd.


30 Jan 2016 19:41:50
Very good performances today from Stewart and Brannigan, wish Ojo and Sinclair would have been given much more game time today.

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30 Jan 2016 20:27:38
Whilst i agree with the post I disagree with Sinclair. What's the point? He don't want to be here, rather other players get game time tbh.


30 Jan 2016 21:05:03
Still at it Benn πŸ˜‚.


30 Jan 2016 21:07:11
I agree about the performance but just annoyed about having another game to face!


30 Jan 2016 21:32:33
Ojo looks great everytime he plays for the first team, would like to see him get a chance as benteke is off form. Agree that we don't actually need to panic buy this window as there is plenty of cover from the youths.


30 Jan 2016 22:05:56
Tonight's team faired better than our so called 'first team' vs West Ham both times in the league so credit to the lads.


30 Jan 2016 18:07:52
Just going to say regardless of the result all played great never played together properly as a team but brilliant. Brannagan great stewart great smith to excited needs to calm down caulker really good. Like it.

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30 Jan 2016 19:28:47
Not sure what the exctiement is about really. It was a quality of league 1 game with glimpses of mid table Championship one. Given how awful we look in the last third you just wonder if the criteria to recruit players for LFC is inablity to score goals under any condition. This wastefulness is just spreading across all our squad regardless which team we put on the pitch. Benteke and Mings are getting worse with every game but none of the starting 11 today other than Clyne and Smith just maybe just, are good enough to play in any PL side let alone Liverpool. At least we didn't lose again.


30 Jan 2016 20:48:52
Fanobip these young lads haven't played together before yet played some decent football and dominated the game. Add coutinho in for ibe sturridge in for benteke there would have been certainly some goals today. We need to start getting them integrated into the team.


30 Jan 2016 22:23:51
I really think these lads are decent Stewart played well Brannagan composed teixeira skilful your forgetting that was a west ham team at full strength who has beaten us twice already. Praet rave reviews did he play tonight these kids as there known as nulled him even caulker played well. let's see positives rather than we didn't win.


30 Jan 2016 17:23:26
Well all those wanting the kids to play got their wish, here's hoping they can compete with a strong Hammers side.
This is the chance these guys would be crying out for so les give he hammers hell.

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30 Jan 2016 20:52:36
And they did admirably well against their first eleven. What does that say about WH? They were average at best while our boys were the better team especially in the second half where their goalie was the MOTM. I think Ojo and Smith are ready for the first team right now. Tex may need to bulk up a bit on the physical side even tho he held his own vs a WH midfield that kicked he, Branno and Stewart up n down with no protection from the ref. We're still in the Cup until we're out and I'm looking forward to the replay to see how they fair.


30 Jan 2016 21:14:20
Redohio,
You've always been a champion for these guys and I really admire that lad.
S for the performances I thought Tex had great touches but doesn't press well and falls over easily, Ojo didn't get enough time so we don't know if he's ready for PL, though I would start him ahead of Ibe next game. Smith is too excited and got caught out of position numerous times but is a better option than our current fullbacks. Brannagan I really like and would love to see him getting more chances. Stewart seems to be a fan fav all of a sudden but I don't see why, good at Exeter and good occasionally against the hammers but needed to grab the game by the neck and didn't.
To me Clyne should be dropped and I'd try flanno and Smith as full backs, Allen has to start and I'll admit I was wrong about him, Ojo for Ibe now and give the guy his chance and I'd get Branno on as sub for experience.
Always good to read your posts mate and apologies for the excruciating long reply.


30 Jan 2016 17:05:51
Its not a bad side what's up with everyone? Everyone moans we should be playing the kids then when we do everyone moans about us playing the kids
Crazy.

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30 Jan 2016 16:37:24
hey ed002. i read you wrote lpool is watching milan badelj. do you think he could fit the premier league. ihave high opinion on him as he is much more improved lucas. with awesome range of passing and fiorentina midfield looks good when he is on the fied. would he be financialy in lpools reach?

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{Ed002's Note - When did I say that?}

30 Jan 2016 16:11:23
Hi eds is it true Watford are willing to pay the 3 million we are reportedly asking for Sinclair.

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{Ed002's Note - Try the search engine, I have explained the interest.}

30 Jan 2016
The real time live chat page is open for today's Liverpool match at the below link for you to talk to each other during the match
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30 Jan 2016 15:11:34
In relation to Joe Allen. I've never ever rated him. Always seen him as a bang average player.
But, for the first time in my eyes he's actually playing pretty well lately I must say.
Definitely deserves a start.
Let's see if he can change my mind.

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30 Jan 2016 15:15:57
Jirlo is playing well now because of the beard. Simple really.


30 Jan 2016 15:27:40
Haha jirlo. That is golden.


30 Jan 2016 15:28:27
You guys have forgotten how well he was playing for the first 6-7 games when he first joined and Lucas was out injured. People were impressed. I'd say he's playing even better now.


30 Jan 2016 15:55:56
He's not being played as a defensive midfielder and that's helping him.


30 Jan 2016 15:57:25
I think why people disliked allen was because allen was used in a DM role at times, and with his stature, is ridiculous. He's great at reading the game and breaking up play but will get out muscled fighting for loose balls. In my opinion allen should always play in front of lucas and can/ hendo, when played. which he has been doing of late in his cameo's.


30 Jan 2016 20:56:59
Exactly, Wiseryan. Allen was being used in a system that doesn't fit his qualities because he has quality. A guy who can outplay Yaya Toure almost every time he plays him must be doing something right. Now, he has taken a new dimension under Klopp and shoeing that he has some speed, goals and fight in his game. Did you see his acrobatic attempt vs WH? That's a player on confidence who believes he can try anything and had it come iff, the roof would have been blown off Anfield. Credit to him and his work ethic.


30 Jan 2016 14:56:18
Hi Eds quick question if you have time,

How did we buy Coutinho at such a low price all those years ago? Were there no other teams interested in him?

Kopchu.

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{Ed002's Note - Try the search engine.}

30 Jan 2016 17:08:40
We were able to get him for that because he is inconsistent.
Great talent, awesome on his day but his days come too unfrequently.


30 Jan 2016 14:43:12
This summer I feel we need to strengthen our goalie and recruit someone as what we have now is not good enough. Klopp should wait until summer if nothing of quality is avaiable now and spend big on a quality striker in the summer. Personally I would move Benteke on and keep Origi, Ings and Sturridge. Benteke is frustrating as he seems to be making all the wrong runs and decisions and I mean all, I am not sure what's happened. Sturridge when fit, key word "when" is the best striker in the League and was only second to Suarez for me who was on another level to anyone else.

On a side note I don't know what it is but I have a soft spot for Joe Allen and want him to stay. I know he gets a lot of flak but he seems a hard worker and nice guy and recently has been reliable when called on.

Defence for me has to be sorted and that starts with a settled back 5, where having a goalie who instils confidence in his defence improves the back 4. Flanagan when fully fit would be my right back, he personifies Klopps ethos and seems a hard worker but also has talent. Left back would be Brad Smith, Moreno has the pace and attacking prowess to be a good left back but lacks two vital components wit the first being concentration and second being decision making. Brad Smith seems a more well-rounded left back and with coaching will only get better. Central Defence I would have Sakho and Lovren, they just need to stay fit and literally play together for a substantial amount of games.

Interesting rest of the season left as we still have 3 cups to play for and one of them we are in the final and top 4 still to play for although I think that ship sailed.

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30 Jan 2016 16:22:16
What is it lately with people just spamming dislike on completely reasonable posts?


30 Jan 2016 21:33:33
Agree with pretty much all this post I know what you mean about Allen really want him to do well with us, he's defo got the talent if he could get some consistency to his game which he seems to be doing under klopp he could be like a new signing for us, anyway all to play for 2nd half of the season. YNWA jft96.


30 Jan 2016 14:43:12
This summer I feel we need to strengthen our goalie and recruit someone as what we have now is not good enough. Klopp should wait until summer if nothing of quality is avaiable now and spend big on a quality striker in the summer. Personally I would move Benteke on and keep Origi, Ings and Sturridge. Benteke is frustrating as he seems to be making all the wrong runs and decisions and I mean all, I am not sure what's happened. Sturridge when fit, key word "when" is the best striker in the League and was only second to Suarez for me who was on another level to anyone else.

On a side note I don't know what it is but I have a soft spot for Joe Allen and want him to stay. I know he gets a lot of flak but he seems a hard worker and nice guy and recently has been reliable when called on.

Defence for me has to be sorted and that starts with a settled back 5, where having a goalie who instils confidence in his defence improves the back 4. Flanagan when fully fit would be my right back, he personifies Klopps ethos and seems a hard worker but also has talent. Left back would be Brad Smith, Moreno has the pace and attacking prowess to be a good left back but lacks two vital components wit the first being concentration and second being decision making. Brad Smith seems a more well-rounded left back and with coaching will only get better. Central Defence I would have Sakho and Lovren, they just need to stay fit and literally play together for a substantial amount of games.

Interesting rest of the season left as we still have 3 cups to play for and one of them we are in the final and top 4 still to play for although I think that ship sailed.

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30 Jan 2016 13:55:04
Hi Eds,

Do Liverpool hold any interest in James Maddison? I've seen him at the ricoh a few times and he looks incredible.

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{Ed002's Note - You are on the wrong page for random questions abour random players - but there is very serious interest in him buit not from Liverpool.}

30 Jan 2016 14:55:31
Sorry about that Ed002! Would you recommend any other pages where I could find out more about the interest in him?


{Ed002's Note - The "Football Rumours" page would be best.}

30 Jan 2016 16:45:11
Cheers Ed.


30 Jan 2016 13:34:20
Ed not Liverpool related but do referees have to have their eyes tested regularly judging by the Everton v city game? just curious.

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30 Jan 2016 14:12:49
Spec savers could use the highlights of that game for their next TV ad

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30 Jan 2016 14:45:41
Maybe Everton need to consider that regardless of the ball rolling out of play, they still switched off and still defend worse than us.


30 Jan 2016 21:03:12
Exactly, Davey. You are coached from toddler age to ALWAYS play to the whistle but it seems Everton never got the memo. Martinez is doing the same thing he did with Wigan as in, defensively aweful, can't win games, gifting the opposition goals, and being a crap manager and motivator. In time, he got them relegated and the media still thought he was a genius. He will drag Everton down with him and leave them the same way he left Wigan. Everton fans need to wake up. Your manager will ruin you, eventually.


30 Jan 2016 12:00:11
Hi eds and fellow reds, I was just wondering if you guys could help me out with something? I'm going to my first ever Liverpool game on the 6th to see us against Sunderland and I'm absolutely buzzing. I'm going with my friend from Serbia who hasn't ever been before either so we were going to make a day of it and go up early enough to get a stadium tour and leave late enough to see the city, but I've been a bit of an idiot and waited too long to book my stadium tour. Do any of you lot know anywhere online it'd be possible to find someone selling unwanted stadium tour tickets? I need a 10:20 one. Cheers and thanks for all the effort you put into the site, both the eds and posters!

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30 Jan 2016 12:29:34
How about contacting the stadium?


30 Jan 2016 11:39:37
Ed002, this one's for you as you seem to ...........

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{Ed002's Note - This is the Liverpool page and you need the Real Madrid page for such questions. Thing is that you have the wrong end of the stick with this matter. It is nothing to do with what you think and has absolutely no relevance to Liverpool.}

30 Jan 2016 14:21:50
Alright Ed. Thanks anyway.


30 Jan 2016 11:21:00
I would like to thank the Eds for their insight over the last few days. Makes reading this site essential.

Nearly over until the summer - 3 days left - stay strong!

Cheers.

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{Ed002's Note - Thanks Nick. I am sure there will be plenty of twists and turns across Europe in the coming days.}

30 Jan 2016 10:34:54
Hi Eds, great job this window from you guys, just wanted to ask, have you seen any difference in the way transfers are looked at since Klopps appointment? I know its the first window of opportunity but we see the same names banded around in rumour mills all over window after window and just wondered if Klopp is having a greater influence than BR ever did?

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{Ed002's Note - No, it is effectively the same. When Klipperty joined one of the provisions was that he would have to work within the existing framework - and largely that will continue. Scouts will continue to look at players on a day-by-day basis with some of the scouting being aimed at specific players, as they will have done recently with potential January targets, or just generally keeping abreast of things. The club will continue to look at youngsters on a more general basis throughout the UK and much of Europe hoping to perhaps pick up on a few who will do well in the future. Often clubs have long-term targets they will keep an eye on throughout the season. Klipperty will influence this process with players he or his coaching staff would specifically like scouts to look at.}

30 Jan 2016 12:32:05
With BR blaming all he wrong transfers on he 'transfer comittee' and the seemingly apparently inability to land our main targets (mkhitaryan, Sanchez, konoplyanka, texeria, etc) would you blame our transfers on the infrastructure or manager?


30 Jan 2016 14:16:04
Rodgers had the last say on a ins and outs it's been done to the death here

Thow shall not speaketh that name again

Evil I say EVIL πŸ‘Ί.


30 Jan 2016 15:13:06
Rodgers wanted the committee as he didn't want to work under a director of football (or similar set up) .


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30 Jan 2016 09:45:47
Predictions for FA cup v West Ham:

I think West Ham are in for a serious hammering today. Klopp was angry after the last game with them. Today we will make amends.

LFC 4-1 WHU.

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30 Jan 2016 09:55:59
Love your positivity, Ron. I think we will demolish them and pepper their goal with shots for 90 mins or more.
1-0 to the Reds.


30 Jan 2016 09:56:41
2-1. Benteke and Teixeira to score. Both teams will rotate I expect so it'll be interesting but I think when our team is rotated it is better than theirs (when rotated)


30 Jan 2016 10:01:23
Heart says 2-0, head says 1-1

Stupid head!


30 Jan 2016 10:13:51
Liverpool win today! :)


30 Jan 2016 10:34:39
tbh, i think our second string team can do just as much if not more than our first team . I still think it will be close though. looking forward to watching these boys more than the first team these days haha. Even if we get beat, I will judge them on the match performance because anything happens in football.


30 Jan 2016 10:43:15
inevitable replay coming me thinks.


30 Jan 2016 11:04:55
Have to admit I am a little bit worried about starting the kids "if" they go full strength. carnt see them not scoring so lfc 2-1 😁.


30 Jan 2016 11:42:31
Really looking forward to the game today. Any kind of win would do. Don't think I could cope getting beat by the hammers three times in one season.


30 Jan 2016 11:44:33
West Ham to win 2-1. i'm never wrong!


30 Jan 2016 11:45:33
West ham will bully us into submission as ysual and beat us 2-0.


30 Jan 2016 11:51:23
We're going to get smashed today were playing our kids against West Ham who smashed our first team 1-4.


30 Jan 2016 11:57:25
West Ham are the better team.

Let me stress the word team again.

Still think we'll sneak a win.


30 Jan 2016 12:49:06
Too many doubters πŸ™„.


30 Jan 2016 13:54:31
Gee whizz, West Ham at home and this kind of negativity?


30 Jan 2016 15:17:46
They have beat us twice this season, and convincingly so, and are above us in the league. That is why you are seeing some negativity here. When was the last time you watched us, and thought how well we played. Not very often this season - maybe 3/ 4 times at most. We are playing poorly on a consistent basis, are missing our most creative player, our main strikers, and our central defensive unit - so we might just nick a win today. However, I really doubt we will, and think we will struggle to get a replay. With the game at Leicester on Tuesday night, I am sure Klopp will make a number of changes too.


30 Jan 2016 08:36:41
Hi eds, do you think Clyne has improved? If not, who would you choose to replace him? Thanks.

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{Ed001's Note - no and Flanagan.}

30 Jan 2016 13:02:59
Flanno pretty much personifies the attitude Klopp expects from his teams, I expect he will be the first choice before long.


30 Jan 2016 14:29:00
Will be a tight game unless we can hit the back of the net

If we play to our full ability I can only see us winning and the margin we win by makes no difference unless there's a few quid on it πŸ€”.


30 Jan 2016 14:29:00
Will be a tight game unless we can hit the back of the net

If we play to our full ability I can only see us winning and the margin we win by makes no difference unless there's a few quid on it πŸ€”.


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30 Jan 2016 05:54:05
I personally think we should sort our defence out. Buy Cahill and Matip (matip is a versatile player so can be played as a FB and cdm, welcome addition in my book.

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30 Jan 2016 07:34:38
If you have watched him, Matip is an average player and nothing more. He severely lacks pace and I am doubtful he would adapt to the physicality and pace in England.


30 Jan 2016 07:49:56
Perfect for a Liverpool team that can compete with the big boys then transition.


30 Jan 2016 08:04:15
Fat Cat

We are bringing players to cover for Toure, when our first choice defenders are conceding plenty. Cahill seriously? What have we learned from Milner?
I would rather give Wisdom a chance than Cahill.

Matip and Cahill would not stop the flow of goals, I could guarantee that.


30 Jan 2016 08:10:29
Could very well be Hummels come summer.


30 Jan 2016 08:11:14
Personally i don't think Matip is going to be the saviour to our back 4 issues. I don't think he is that good.


30 Jan 2016 08:25:09
Pace as a CB does not dictate whether you're good or average. It can be be a handy trait to have but if you read the game well and know where to position yourself (a la hyppia) you'll do just fine.


30 Jan 2016 08:33:15
I agree with that point 87 Red. But Pace would defo decide what system would your manager play. If your defenders lack pace then you would end up like Per Mertesacker.


30 Jan 2016 08:41:54
I agree with your point 87red. The great Sami Hyypia lacked pace but one of the best centre halves we have ever had. I don't think Matip is any where close to big Sami tho.


30 Jan 2016 09:26:26
I think Cahill would be a huge mistake, he's only just signed a contract on huge wages (am I right eds? ), would cost a massive transfer fee and frankly there are better defenders out there who are younger than Cahill who is now 30 and only really has a few good years left in him.


30 Jan 2016 12:34:51
Cahill? No thanks. Hyppia played in a Ged defence that defended deep so did not need pace albeit he's one of the best CB's in the club's history. Matip is coming in to replace Toure and maybe Skrtel as Ilori may be given his chance. Matip is not the savior neither is Ilori. However, Matip is very experienced for his age with CL and World Cup games under his belt. He has decent pace, dominates in the air and is good at attacking set pieces due to him being a former striker. I would take him over Toure, Skrtel n Caulker, any day.


30 Jan 2016 13:05:27
Transition, you clearly have not seen Matip play if you think he lacks pace. He's actually very quick for a CB.


30 Jan 2016 21:06:29
Fornax, it's Harry. He just makes statements that defy reality, atimes. Anyone who's seen Matip play knows pace is not a prob for him.


30 Jan 2016 04:43:57
For the people that keep banging on about us already having a good keeper to replace mingnolet in Danny ward I am going to assume none of youse watch Scottish football? Yes he is 'good' up here but then the best keeper on Scotland at the moment is Craig Gordon. Need I go on? Danny ward will make it to the same level as mingnolet at best imo. He makes some terrible errors that would put migs mistakes to shame, I know he's still young but just my opinion after watching him play a lot. My team put 5 past him and at least 3 of them would have been prevented by a decent keeper. Don't get me wrong, I hope I get proved to be wrong but I just thought I'd share my observations.

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30 Jan 2016 05:40:13
I watch Scottish football religiously. I completely agree about Craig Gordon (love him)! He's by far the best keeper in SPL. He commands the box fantastically, screams at defence, rallies the troops, comes out to deal with corners/ crosses instead of leaving them for the CBs etc etc. He's very talented all rounder.
As for Danny Ward, he's still young so give him time to learn his craft at LFC.
Mingolet is as good keeper but struggles to command the box because of his he height. Look at the stats, last year he kept 16 clean sheets, more than any other bpl keeper. It isn't like we were at the top of our game last yesr so, my point is, imagine if he had a decent defence in front of him. He gets slaughtered for every error, but all keepers make errors, I just don't understand the hatred for him by the "Liverpool faithful"


{Ed001's Note - Craig Gordon commands the box fantastically? Are you sure you have ever watched him play? Every shot is parried straight out into danger. Truly awful keeper, who just happens to be playing for a team as superior to the rest of the league as PSG or Bayern and so can get away with being utter cack.}

30 Jan 2016 12:35:50
The poster must have forgotten how poor he was at Sunderland.


30 Jan 2016 12:52:01
So by your opinion perth ward made little or no difference to aberdeen being in the top 2 or three all season because he is terrible. Okies i will take your word for it.


30 Jan 2016 19:04:12
I was comparing the fact that Gordon Is the best keeper in the league meaning ward wasn't all that, I know Gordon is a rubbish keeper. I completely agree with what the Ed says about him. Also Aberdeen are second in the league because they have way more money than everyone else except celtic in the league not because of ward. Had anything changed since ward left? No it hasn't.


{Ed001's Note - Aberdeen do not have way more money than everyone else. I don't know where you got that nonsense from. There is very little difference in budgets between the rest of the league. You are talking less in difference than an average English Prem player's annual salary between the rest of the SPFL. I think you are just making things up to try and back up your point.}

30 Jan 2016 19:59:27
Yeah that's small amount of money in the premiership is huge in relation to the amount of money spent on players and their wages in Scotland below the old firm. Aberdeen pay more than double the wages of my team St Johnstone. Might not be a lot down south but it's still double the wages meaning players will more likely go to them of Aberdeen are interested, also they get 2/ 3 times the fans of the rest of the league so it isn't nonsense. Maybe stick to English football.


30 Jan 2016 04:15:20
I'm on nights at the moment and bored to tears. So I was thinking about possible talking-points as a diversion to the pointless January transfer-talk (nothing will happen except Sky Sports presenters getting over-excited about sod all! )
So, assuming the inevitable happens and we don't buy anyone who can actually play straightaway, what "tweaks" to the current squad do posters have a hunch would work?
This is purely to invite reasonable debate and I'll begin by inserting the disclaimer that I don't pretend to know more than Klipperty or his backroom staff. I do, however, have decades of watching Liverpool under my belt and have seen managers ignore the obvious many, many times to their cost (often only making the right changes when forced to by injuries e. g. Sterling's belated introduction to the 1st. team)
So, to get the ball rolling I'll suggest the following ;
1. Flanagan as cover for the CDM role (more mobile than Lucas and a better defender. )
2. Brad Smith to get more game-time (the lad has been very impressive and knows how to cross a ball) .
3. Moreno as a left-sided midfielder (or as cover at LB)
4. Jiao Texeira to get far more game-time . He's been unlucky but needs a chance.
5. Give Ward a few run-outs in the "lesser games" if that's possible. Mignolet is far from irreplaceable.
6. Settle on a centre-back pairing and stick to it (injuries permitting) .
7. Give Can a rest (he's starting to look jaded) .
8. Make Benteke watch videos of Ian Rush over and over again!

Believable5 Unbelievable4

30 Jan 2016 09:21:47
1. Flanno could work there, also think from what i know of Thiago he could do really well at CDM too.

2. This kid really needs a run of games, has looked good in the parts he has played, we just need to see what he is like with a run of 5-10 games, really believe in this kid.

3. Think Moreno in front of Smith could work, I don't think Moreno is the best defensively but could really help Smith if played together.

4. He is getting to an age and a point in his career where he needs to be played weekly if possible and even if it's as a sub for 25 mins but for 5-10 games in a row so we get a better understanding of where he is at and if he does have it, could be a class player for mine.

5. Ward has to be given the number 1 spot at some point, but I don't see that happening until we have a lot less injurys and a somewhat settled back 4.

6. Again we can't be too quick to judge our CB pairing until we have a settled back 4 free of injury, but Sakho/ Lovren seems to work well and they were looking steady together and with more games alongside each other should hopefully only improve.

7. Can definitely has a bit to him and could develop into a classy CM, needs more time, with Klopp at the helm I can see him becoming 1 of our most important players for years to come. The lad deffs needs a rest though, has played a lot of football and always gives his all, don't understand the hate towards him.

8. Big Ben hey, where to start lol, has copped quite a bit of flak and a majority of it is justified but there is something there have no doubt. I try to watch most of our games at least twice, watching the first time I'm too emotionally invested in the game, watching it a 2nd and 3rd time you can see what he is trying to do, he is doing a lot of things right but at the wrong time and his decision making isn't in line with how others are playing around him at the time, could finally click and start making a proper impact but it could just stay the same and be of no benefit to us, time will tell but don't see him being here next season.


30 Jan 2016 02:51:58
So the wife, daughter and I are playing with SIRI and Rowan (daughter) asks who will win tomorrow. Siri said it would be LFC 0.5 vs WHU 0. And yes that's a half goal, we still win though!

Believable3 Unbelievable1

30 Jan 2016 09:26:32
Maybe that means its 0-0 but we win 1-0 in the replay lol.


30 Jan 2016 14:19:21
Siri is the new mystic meg then

Must check the odds on paddy power.


30 Jan 2016 00:38:10
A quick question on Markovic eds if you don't mind. I know most of the eds have consistently said that Marko's time at LFC had unfortunately come to an end and that in all likelihood would ask to be transfered. I am inclined to agree with this but I've just read an interview he did to the Turkish press a week or so ago where he said that the ball was more or less in lfc's court and a transfer would be up to the club. He showed no intent on leaving. He did say that he was enjoying his football in Turkey but that was it. Do you think he was being polite or careful with his words? Or is he really keeping his options open do you think? If he did opt to stay I think Klopp could still make a decent player out of him plus his pace and directness could flourish in Klopp's system.

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{Ed002's Note - It is in their court - his club wants the loan to be made permanent but it is out of his hands.}

30 Jan 2016 03:16:02
I agree pal, he's an actual winger which is an area we have to improve on. I think we should bring him back, he's pacy and I reckon he'd suit Klopps high intensity style. With him and Ibe on the flanks we could cause all sorts of problems. Klopp is known for making star player's.


30 Jan 2016 08:52:49
I don't see how it can hurt to bring him back at the end of the season and have a look at him during training and maybe a couple of games, while keeping loan/ sale options open. His main attribute of speed can be vital to have, since our high press and fast counter attack style depends on it. A lot of money was paid for him, and it would be prudent to have a second look before moving him on.


30 Jan 2016 09:29:42
Thanks eds. I would at least like Klopp to use a bit of preseason to take a look.


 
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