Liverpool Banter Archive July 30 2012

 

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30 Jul 2012 21:14:06
I like the fact that Macca shares, but this latest episode has opened a right can of worms. I understand most of you're getting excited about a star loan signing, but it's extremely rare that big clubs loan valuable players. They've either got some form of baggage, injury, off field or otherwise. They're completely out of form, or there aren't any takers willing to pay cash. If its any one of those factors then it's a risk and if Carroll is really leaving, I'd like us to focus on buying a talent or established player, loaning wouldn't be a step I'd like.

Papa G

David Villa is recovering from injury- wouldnt mind him

Well they could also be surplus/ halting the development of a better player/ or halting a potential transfer.
derryred

Crouch would be a cheap ready-made replacement and he knows the system already!

Depends who it is, surely. Would you honestly be concerned if we loaned Higuain or Tello (not saying its gonna happen)

 

 

30 Jul 2012 21:13:04
Several websites (non great sources) are reporting that we have accepted West Ham's loan offer (£2M for one season loan) which if they stay up will be made permanent with an additional transfer fee presumably taking it up to the £20M we are asking for.

I would now expect to see at least two strikers coming in so maybe Villa is the loan deal Macca mentioned. Dempsey could be the other one?

Bob

 

 

30 Jul 2012 21:12:20
It would be a huge mistake to allow carroll to leave, although if BR really doesn't see carroll in his future plans, allowing him out on loan is potentially a good way to increase his current market value and spark a bidding war for his services.
Jaydee ynwa

 

 

30 Jul 2012 21:11:29
Hi Eds, i live in Madrid and am a very big supporter of LFC, There have been many talks that ozil could be our mystery signing for around 19m as he does not get full 90 minutes on pitch and would like a new challenge!
Thanks

Miguel Sanchez

 

 

30 Jul 2012 21:09:45
30 Jul 2012 19:29:47
Where on earth is Reina ? He didnt get a game at the Euros , didnt attend the USA tour despite Gerard, Kelly, Henderson, Johnson, Borini, Carroll, Agger attending the Euros ...

What on earth is going on...is he unhappy or leaving, or has Rodgers got other plans ?

Tel 1949


I posted about this couPle of weeks ago, BR said himself that borini wasn't meant to be coming back until the 1st August because Italy got to the final. The same will therefore apply to pepe, he is returning ye 1st August. The reason borini is with the squad is because he has said himself in an interview with the official lfc website he cut his holiday short because he wanted to get settled into the new team with his new team mates. So be expecting pepe back on wednesday.

 

 

30 Jul 2012 21:00:45
I have spoken with my contact at Arsenal and have been advised that through word of mouth it was reaveled to them that Kaka is the "Star Loan Signing". Basically Bellamy has been advised that Kaka is coming in and he told his close friend, fellow Welshman and Team GB compatriot about the loan. Of course as all good Chinese whispers it has got back into the Arsenal camp.
JonBoy6
YNWA JFT96

I played chinese whispers once. the origional word was "bacon" by the time it got to me it was "circumcism". enough said.
derryred

 

 

30 Jul 2012 21:00:40
Much better news on Suso, on his Twitter he has said he is looking to buy a house in Liverpool, why would he do that if he didn't think he was staying here? He is currently staying with Enrique, which made me laugh nice to see that players throughout Liverpool get on. Just hoping him signing a long term contract are confirmed soon. He wants to be here, and says how much he loves the City and club, if he is given a couple of games in the Europa League and Carling Cup and given reassurances about his future I'm sure he will stay.
A Kopite

 

 

30 Jul 2012 20:59:29
Personally i don't believe anybody will be joining on loan, however if we were to receive anybody on loan i believe it would be sahin due to Swansea playing hard ball over Allen.
If Swansea go down or have a bad season we will be in a much better position to negotiate over the fee, that is if spuds don't storm in an pay full price in the meantime.
If sahin has a good season and can get over his injuries then the move could be made permanent, when fit hers twice the player that Allen is (at the moment), no doubting allens long term potential though.
Jaydee YNWA

 

 

30 Jul 2012 20:57:36
Still a while to go to the transfer window closes but the sighs seem to suggest that FSG are not going to digg deep and the rumour that any transfer fee to be paid has to be generated from sales.
Now the rumour is Carroll is going on loan for a £2 million fee. What isnt clear is who will pay his £82k a week wages. Its easy to assume WH will pay it but I am not sure that will be the case my guess is that LC will have to pay a certain % .
All in all he has turned out to be a disaster. {Ed001's Note - what 82k a week wages? Don't talk soft, he is not anything like that amount!}

Lots of times guys keep on posting that carroll is on high wages . Ed001 keeps on denying it. ed can i know his approx wages ?
and also can you plz post your views about borini and how he would fit in. Lots of guys were posting negative comments and claimed he was avg. before he signed but all that have turned into positive. Confused! wd like to know yours views abt. him ed.
also did we sign william souza aka mclaren?

Sanjit. {Ed049's Note - It's between 55k-60k.}

Hey, ED002 has abolished all discussion of wages here, and rightly so.

I was not aware abt. wage discussions being abolished. sorry for that.
Sanjit.

 

 

30 Jul 2012 20:51:25
Suso looking for houses in Liverpool, sounds good news

 

 

30 Jul 2012 20:24:27


BBC are reporting that we have accepted West Ham's loan bid for Carroll and he'd join them permanently next season...I won't believe it until its on the official website...Any thoughts eds and fellow reds...

Red PG

West ham have denied it now. Although Aqualani has gone so that's some of the wage bill slashed.

Anyone know the fee I'm hearing all sorts from 2 - 7.5 million?

Hope we can agree a deal for Carroll too, but only with a definite transfer in place. Don't want another Aqualani situation where we see a big fee loaned out every season.

Anyway other reports state we have stole a march on the man s with Gaitan and with get for 16 million that will be some good business.

Starting to look exciting as with all these going we must have some on the way.

Jonesred

Sounds about right. We seem to be good and buying high and selling low.

I hope not. However if he's gone he's gone. And I trust BR is going to get some replacemnets who will get on the scoreboard running.

JitB. YNWA-JFT96

It's a fake story used to out a mole within the club

Sly sports are denying this story at the moment, I think the bbc journalists must also be the same guys that write for caughtoffside, no quotes to back up their story just bbc sources, whatever they may be ?
Rik Int Wirral

Sly sports say we don't accept it ?

 

 

30 Jul 2012 20:23:52
As reported on BBC the CARROL loan is a very good idea, he get's to play all season. We receive 2M for the loan he can come back next year and be the player we all want. He doesn't want to leave and it would make us much stronger in the long run. In my opinion the loan for Carrol is a wonderful idea. Si

I maybe a bit critical but if he practice big Sam football I don't see what he could learn in West Ham that would help him later on when back at Liverpool

Yeah because west ham are gonna make him the player we want with there eye catching football!!
No chance!
FowlerisGod

Do you really believe that spending a year playing for Sam Allardyce will turn Andy Carroll into the player that BR and we all want at Liverpool?!

Have a word with yourself!

Red G

If Carroll is loaned out without having a proper chance to play for Rodgers, there is no silver lining...he will leave and in a few years, if not now, we will regret it...

 

 

30 Jul 2012 20:23:13
has carrol gone or is it bs?

 

 

30 Jul 2012 20:22:56
If this major star loan signing does happen i reckon
he will come from R.madrid simply because apart from
barca who else has a squad strong enough to let a star
player go on loan? Also BR Connections with jose could help.
No idea who it might be though!

Man City. They've also got a lot of players they need to sort out. Especially if they get RvP. Tevez, Aguero, RvP, Balotelli, and Dzeko is it at least 1 striker too many...

Aguero and Balotelli go nowhere as I don't think. Tevez and Mancini seem to have settled their feud. In my mind, Dzeko is the odd man out.

Inter, AC, Juve??


Jonesred

Alonso is all I'll accept any thing else is likely to be a disappointment realistically and we might lose something big in quality in return

It'll be Kaka

 

 

30 Jul 2012 20:22:54
It really is weird that there are so many Liverpool fans that have nothing better to do with their lives than come on here and say "my extremely reliable source has told me..." when in fact most of them are just a bunch of numpties. I mean there are hundreds,every day. Can you imagine these people actually are walking around, and we have no idea who they are? you have to be seriously crazy to want to come on a site like this and make up some ridiculous thing you heard. For what?

unbelievable..

Why you here then ?

kopace

I am not one of the people that you are on about I don't have any sources or any transfer rumours . But I think your being a bit harsh . It's called a rumour site for a reason . These people your on about are supporters like us and want to see the best for our team I come on here to see what the latest rumour is not to have a whinge .

Jamesy

Yeah,anyone would think this is a site where you just passed on something you heard.......you know, like a rumour......er hang on

Yeah they should really be visiting
www.sortmylifeout.com/info/tips-to-improve-social-skills.html

derryred

 

 

30 Jul 2012 20:14:44
Bbc tonight say we have agreed a deal with west ham for carroll. but slysports say west ham have denied this. very confusing

 

 

30 Jul 2012 20:14:35
Take it the whole Carroll going on loan thing to WH is BS all over Twitter with no evidence haha

Well if you think bbc and times journos are bs then yes

Try the BBC

 

 

30 Jul 2012 20:14:04
And Joe Allen wants to stay one more season at Swansea..

Cheerio

I hope so, we don't need him, on his dispays for team gb

Pheww! That was close. RedTurk

If that is true it shows a complete lack of ambition. Swansea without Rodgers will be awful.

 

 

30 Jul 2012 19:53:12
16 Jul 2012 17:26:42
I am told that Carroll will more than likely end up at West Ham. He doesn't want to go but BR simply doesn't want him at LFC

Aintree Red

Just to remind people that I reported Carroll to west ham 2 weeks ago. See above.

Aintree red

 

 

30 Jul 2012 19:51:49
carroll will do really well in a bigsam side based around his strengths

looking forward to seeing who the star on loan coming in is now, has to be a striker

tom1975

 

 

30 Jul 2012 19:51:28
Big loan player

carroll to west ham loan.

Torres to liverpool loan.

just a guess.

gingerviking

Lol had a laugh I thought your name was gingivitis at first glance !

Your in way over you head LMFAO.......keep wishing

em+mark

Chelsea hardly have strikers to put on loan
derryred

 

 

30 Jul 2012 19:51:25
...and if BR doesn't rate Carroll, then how is Spearing anywhere near the club right now?

Muzmacol YNWA

Spot on post - biggest mistake any LFC manager has ever made - BR will regret it very very quickly.

Maybe no one wants him?

RedSG

Thats a conumdrum!

Because as most fans think wanting it really badly matters more. (they don't know that ALOT of footballers see it as a profession not passion)

Probably because no one will touch Spearing with a barge pole.

 

 

30 Jul 2012 19:49:04
right people, Macca said "There is a good chance we will have a major star signing on loan." key words "good chance", so this does not mean one will actually sign, it means there is a chance, so people need to calm down and wait and see

That's a bit boring isn't it, everybody was having so much fun guessing! I should intoduce you to my misses she's a killjoy as well.

MR EM

Your more of a buz kill then buzzkillington!

 

 

30 Jul 2012 19:48:37
BBC says Liverpool have agreed to loan Carroll to West Ham for 2m with a view to buy for 17m. I thought Rodgers said he didn't want him to be loaned as he cost 35m??? Also is Carroll really going to want to go to West Ham? The only way I could see this as being a good thing for us is if Rodgers realised that Carroll will be good when he is around 26/27 and starting every week this season and getting a lot more experience in the league might help him achieve that. Still very confused at this deal though...

Gh*Lfc

 

 

30 Jul 2012 19:47:59
So Kuyts gone, Carroll is on his way to West Ham and Bellars will go to Cardiff! That leaves us Borini and Suarez - I hope LFC have someone special lined up!

YNWA jns

Carlton Cole perhaps?

Totally agree - now I am getting worried. Who will be our strike force since we have let Kuyt go and Suarez and Bellamy at the olympics. Makes no sense to let Andy go aswel.

Does demsey, Allen and a loan player sound special to you?. We've let go off maxi, kuyt,aurelio,Carroll,aqualani and we've replaced them with borini...dempsey...Allen...and a loan player. Seems like we're not going for gaston Ramirez which is a let down. Bellamy is leaving for sure. Adam and spearing are still Liverpool players. Suso got out back into the reserves. Wtf is happening to my club

Spearing will be playing on the wing next season
why: he can only get better on the wing than he did last season on def. mid.

Carlton Cole. lol.

Thank f**k Rafa's gone! Sometimes I almost forget.....

If I don't watch out, some dark day I might actually forget.

I'll turn into one of those 'bring back Rafa' types...

A fate worse than death. Surely.

BJH YNWA (someone just put me out of my misery if it comes to that)

ps - 'Carlton Cole perhaps?'

World class banter there. Well done, un-named poster.

(or are you actually Rafa, dreaming of a new look LFC, moulded in your image? Ahh - what could have been...)

 

 

30 Jul 2012 19:47:46
With Carroll set to go out on loan makes me think the loan star coming in has to be a striker. Would make perfect sense. But who is it?

I personally have no idea. Anyone got any thoughts?

Cheers

CSE9

If its a stiker i would say pedro looks like with villa back in training he could be 4th even 5th choice,another direct player i would go for is benzema,it has to be said it is all just spec,but if it gets any better than these two we will see a vastly improved team.

 

 

30 Jul 2012 19:47:36
Looks like Andy could be off. I personally think that it is because of his lifestyle. Rumours were that Andy spent most of last season going back to Newcastle as much as he could.

BR said that all the players have to give 100% on the pitch and 100% 'off' the pitch. I knew straight away what/who he meant. I would give Andy to get another season but BR dosnt seem to trust Andy to knuckle down, as much as I do.

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96

Well lucky for all of us it aint your call Blair.
Jonson

Isn't West Ham further away from Newcastle than Liverpool?

Any by the same token, I hope Hendo is really pushed this season - doesnt drink, turns up for training early and stays late for extra shooting practice, etc. may not be ready to take the reins from stevie yet, but deserves a chance for his commtment!

Alright Blair, I was talking to few people in and around the team last season and they were also saying about big andy not settling very well, didn't have many friends in the city and stuff. Also said he sneaked of upto Newcastle a few times. So must be a bit of truth to it.
ravenrudeboy

Surely it isnt unusual to visit the place were you grew up and lived and all your friends still live? There is no doubt AC didnt want to leave Newcastle, he was pushed out for the money! He would jump at the chance to return and who could blame him! I think it would be better for all concerned if this was to happen!
John Wigan

 

 

30 Jul 2012 19:43:49
Thought we were not sending Carroll out on loan. what good is that to anyone especially if west ham are relegated!!

Id imagine its for one of 2 reasons;
a) to Push newcastle to match our asking price.
b) If we are getting a player on Loan who is a striker it will offset the planned year.

Could work in our favour in my opinion either way

Well with andy up front i think that unlikely
derryred

 

 

30 Jul 2012 19:42:32
Fromm the BBC website

West Ham United have agreed a £2m loan fee with Liverpool for Andy Carroll.

The deal for the England striker is with a view to a permanent transfer of £17m, providing West Ham United stay in the Premier League.

However, it is thought Carroll does not wish to leave Liverpool on a permanent basis.

The Reds turned down a bid from Newcastle to re-sign the player, having bought him from the Magpies for a club record fee of £35m in January 2011.

 

 

30 Jul 2012 19:42:22
According to BBC Sport website Andy Carroll going on loan to West Ham. Loan fee of £2,000,000 mentioned. Also, just confirmed by a friend who has a contact at West Ham.
As a side line, hopefully BR and Fenway Group get us a
striker asap. Dempsey would be nice at least he can
score goals.

 

 

30 Jul 2012 19:35:54
Andy carroll to west ham is happening, loan bid of 2 million accepted with view to 17 million permanent if they dont get relegated,

i expect some serious players coming in at the rate of players leaving, so far

Kuyt, maxi, aurelio, carroll, aquilani

in - Borini,

whether the players going out are actually any good or not is besides the point, they will have to and will be replaced, no team in the europa league and premier league would cut their squad down to the bare bones and struggle through,

Clint dempsey pulled out of tour of switzerland with fulham to push through LFC move, something must be happening there for him to do that as it would be a very bad move by him if it fell through,

signings to be expected,

borini, ramirez, dempsey, allen would be quality additions, hope they all work out, and a major loan signing? could be a good 12/13

Clive

I like your positive attitude

jtr

Hounestly the only one on that list I can see
Playing really well for us is Ramirez and that's because he'll link up well with Suarez. If Dempsey and Ramirez both come in (which I didn't expect) then Im guessing that's Bellamy and cole gone.

 

 

30 Jul 2012 19:35:37
So according to the posters "in the know" and the "you heard it here first" regulars, the loan signing is David Villa, Kaka, Affelay, Robben, Ozil, etc etc etc

It's gonna be some squad ;)

In other news BR is apparently interested in buying a new car - Spurs have been alerted and AVB and Levy are on the way to the showroom to Hijack the deal:)

Aparently it is the car he used to have at Swansea so some of the guys on here wont like it cos its not good enough for our club lol (only joking fellas)

It's not a Chevrolet is it? They seem to be getting everywhere!

Red Raw

I hear Rodgers bought a Chevrolet , and hours later Alex Ferguson heard about the deal and immediately got one of his own...

Gh*lfc

 

 

30 Jul 2012 19:31:18
Why the flipping heck do we wait so long to make any transfers. Hate to admit it but we are so far behind top 4 teams its untrue in regards to transfer dealings. Why can't we cut our losses with the deadwood that we have in our ranks instead of holding out to them. I'm so frustrated as a fan but our lack of ambition really turning me away from the club.

Neilp

Who have Manchester city signed? They are champions but haven't signed anybody yet, maybe they lack ambition too....

The captain

I'm starting to think along those lines myself mate.Seems to be little or no ambition any more , just makes me feel sad.


Baz F

Well see ye then

Siggle

Neil, I dont believe we are any further behind the top 4 at this point. We still have plenty of window left mate. As for cutting our losses with the 'dead wood', we need to recoup as much as possible from those players outside of the plan so that we can afford to buy players in the plan. A mindless clearout will not help. Lets just wait and see what happens in the next few weeks, mate. You may be pleasantly surprised.

Andy

The thing is captain they don't need to sign anyone and have a squad full of quality players unlike us.

Neilp

Neilp and Baz F go and support City then!

Spot the difference between city and lfc. Let's see: silva, aquero, teves, balotelli, yaya toure, nasri, dzecko (he's a fringe player apparently). We have gerrard and Suarez. They hardly need any signings, we quite frankly do need signings especially with this mass exodus.

 

 

30 Jul 2012 19:30:35
Looks like Carroll could be off to West Ham or if Newcastle really want him then they need to up their deal!

Zaraz

 

 

30 Jul 2012 19:29:47
Where on earth is Reina ?? He didnt get a game at the Euros , didnt attend the USA tour despite Gerard, Kelly, Henderson, Johnson, Borini, Carroll, Agger attending the Euros ...

What on earth is going on...is he unhappy or leaving, or has Rodgers got other plans ?

Tel 1949

Borini returned from his holiday earlier than scheduled, it was shown on the Liverpool website. Reina and him would have had the same amount of holiday time. I think someone said Reina comes back beginning of August, so this week.

Red Raw

Reina and Borini were due back on August 1st due to getting to the final of the Euros. Borini decided to come back earlier. Reina is back soon. No need to worry.

He was given a week longer holiday than the English lads, because of Spain reaching the final.Borini explained the reasons why he came back early so he could start to bond with his new team mates.

He's gone to a greater light

Its called arsenal

Honestly have no idea, but I wouldn't be surprised to see Reina move on if an adequate replacement can be found. I seem to recall him being on pretty hefty wages (near Gerrard level) after his last contract negotiation and I don't see him as being 'worth it' personally. There are tons and tons of really good keepers out there since there are a limited number of first team slots to take.

Borini wasn't supposed to come back until after the tour, but wanted to come in early to settle in better. I think he wasn't meant to come in because Italy got to the final so he should have had a longer holiday, so I think that's why Reina wasn't on the tour. I agree that his non-appearance so far this summer is slightly concerning though. Based on his interviews last summer and last season, I can definitely see him leaving.

Red Ollie

Maybe he's in Barca setting up his mate Villa's loan deal ? ;)

Greater light arsenal hmmmm. i must admit youve won alot of tropheys recently so i can see why he would want to go to you. expecially the champions league your history in that cup is certainly immense.

 

 

30 Jul 2012 19:19:31
When Rodgers gave that press-conference a couple of weeks ago promising 'exciting signings', please tell me that he was alluding to something other than what we're seeing?

Weve signed a deal with Chevy... fast and exciting with a cup holder!

Everything is relative

Whats great to Ginger might not be great to you

 

 

30 Jul 2012 19:18:10
I expect Aquliani to leave an Allen to come in. I don't think Dempsey will sign and I don't think Carroll will leave. I think Bellamy will also leave.

 

 

30 Jul 2012 19:16:10
i'd say one of Pato or Kaka

No way is Pato a 'major star'...neither is Rossi or Sahin

 

 

30 Jul 2012 19:15:30
Liverpool FC is trying to get Keisuke Honda on a loan deal. Mostly its a loan because LFC want to see how fit he is and how he adapts to Premier League.

Cska have already started to spens and getting players in.

I would prefer Honda to kaka. I've seen him play for Japan quite a bit and he has great skills on top off many other attributes.

Seems unlikely, but I actually like this idea. With Elm going in, suppose it could be quasi-feasible...

Square tomato will be happy :)

cozinoz

And CSKA have signed Matias Suarez, and now Elm.
I believe it is Honda that will arrive at Liverpool aswell.

 

 

30 Jul 2012 19:10:44
I do hope that it is Villa or Rossi as some have suggested. I don't think it will be a cm IMO due to the amount we have and also don't think it will be a defender due to us having a solid back line. Exciting end to the window no doubt.

In relation to further signings things seem to have gone quiet on Dempsey and Allen, could this be a tactic to get Swansea and Fulham respectively to lower the asking on both. I know the nesn article didn't help in relation to Dempsey and BRs 'agreement' with Swansea may give other teams the upper on Allen. In regards to Gaston I think this is pure 2+2 stuff from the media although I don't doubt there has been inquirys one way or the other. Gatan roumers seem to be to intice others to bid and his agent has said he wouldn't move to Liverpool, suits me I'm only interested in players who want to play for us.

Players out it dose look like AC will to but only if it makes financial sence to do so. I don't think Suarez will go and skertel and agger should stay as they were class together last season for the most part. It seems very quiet in Downing but I feel he should be given another season along with Henderson. I wouldn't be upset if we sold Aqualani, Adam, Spearing, Jones. As I said this is my opinion I dont have sources and don't claim to be itk.

Thoughts edds or reds?

Quigz23

I doubt Rossi will be arriving given his recent injury woes. A real shame as he was developing into quite the player!

RedSG

Spot on

Quigg35

 

 

30 Jul 2012 19:07:19
Since when did Anfield become a fitness ground for other clubs players? Personally can't see this mate, it is almost offensive.
JP.

If he is an already established star, then maybe it's a loan with an option to buy rather than what you suggest.
I personally think all our deals should be "try before you buy" we could of saved ourselves so many bad transfers over the years.

MIKEY

 

 

30 Jul 2012 19:04:44
David Villa to Anfield on a loan move to get match fitness and test his recovery? I think not. To get match fitness would mean him having to play a substantial amount of the time - and for a loan player at this level is highly unlikely as - at the end of the loan period, you have to unsettle the team yet again replacing him. More crucially is the injury factor. All you can safely say is that once some of the cloggers in the Prem have had their say, he'll be more injured than he was to start with. That's my opinion. I'm Kent Brockman for Channel 6 news on KBBL-TV broadcasting out of Springfield. Good night.

So what you're suggesting is, premier league teams get players on loan and then don't use them because they are scared to unsettle the team at the end of the season? Tosh.

He's suggesting that major Prem teams only take loan players as squad players - ie Bellamy. That would go against what Real want for Villa. RED LENIN

 

 

30 Jul 2012 19:01:08
Will this big loan deal be with an option to be made perm ?

 

 

30 Jul 2012 18:51:19
EDS EDS EDS

Can you please answer this as you guys never show my posts lol
The loan signing IMO will be Sahin.

German media and spanish media reps were on ESPN talking about Sahin. I think the spanish rep was actually an englishman called SID LOWE.

He said that he would put money on Sahin going on loan to the PL for the season. The german rep agreed, when asked who it would be to, they put said they think it will probs be Arsenal but there was strong interest from another club.

Thats far to big a coincidence for it not to be us.

For me, its clear the loan signing is Sahin. He may not be Kaka or Villa, players I would prefer it to be as we need a major match winner IMO, but Sahin is a very good CM. Him, Lucas and Gerrard is a very strong CM team. Also it would leave funds available to go sign a top class forward to go with Borini and Suarez.

For example, say we sell Adam, Aquilani, Carroll and Downing, that is around 35-40m generated. If we bring in Borini for 10m, Sahin on loan, then sign Dempsey and Allen for a combined 20m , both of those 2 as squad players, then that will leave around 25M-30M to bring in a top top quality forward.

Or instead of sahin we brought a striker on loan as we've just loaned one out. Borini,Dempsey,Allen,Ramirez,loan striker. Makes alot more sense

I think you need to do that maths again...

x

Is it the same Sid Lowe that commentates on the Darts?

 

 

30 Jul 2012 18:48:16
Just going to throw another name in to the hat here Regarding the star loan mystery player ronaldinho stated his desire to play in the premier league not to long ago just a thaught YNWA

Isn't he a free agent?

Didn't he join Atletico Mineiro on a free a few months back? Plus why would we want him, he is well past his best!

RedSG

I think he's signed for McDonald's

Siggle

 

 

30 Jul 2012 18:34:48
This is only a guess but could the loan deal be part of the aquilani deal? - we have been linked with jovetic although i dont really see why they would let him go. or potentially another of their players.

Just a thought

RedSam

 

 

30 Jul 2012 18:28:00
sign

ramirez 15 million own cash
lewandowski 20 million carrol 15 mill
allen 9 million aqua 7mill
johnson 15 million own cash


these players movement's are very good just what we need at anfield

 

 

30 Jul 2012 18:22:12
Some news on clint Dempsey, he's pulled out of the fulham pre season tour camp I Switzerland to push Liverpool transfer through

I think he would be a good addition, hope that this is true

RedSG

 

 

30 Jul 2012 18:11:51
well what to say about a very less than average charlie adam how can he be even classed as a footballer i know lfc prides itself on football and would never condone this kind of behavior and i dont think this is a coincidence (speeling) the guy shouldnt be at such an illustrious football club pulling it down to his level

dave

A bad tackle and all of a sudden he's public enemy number 1.
You don't see him whining all over the Internet about what happened to him in a contact sport.
All from someone who admits to diving, and faked injury to avoid going the oylmpics.
So he shouldn't of been playing anyway.
He should just shut his face.

MIKEY

It was a bad tackle, there is no denying that, but if you expect me to criticise Adam because of it then you are mistaken. If the tackle was so bad how come Bale was able to continue for another half hour of a 'meaningless friendly'

And for Bale to call Adam a coward is very hypocritical for a 'man' that said "At the end of the day I would rather dive than get hurt." and also faked injury to get out of the Olympics.

JRG

Shut up dave, it was a nothing challenge, bale is a big girl. get over it and support the team

What you on about the tackle bale and walker need to get over themselves

Gareth you bafoon, get off our banter page

What because he made a tackle in a game of football, which by the way is a contact sport incase you didnt know, injuries happen in the game, it wasnt as bad a tackle as you see week in week out in the prem league, so much so Bale played on for the rest of the first half, if it was tha bad they would of took him off using one of the unlimated subs they can make in a preseason game! Adam hasnt done anything wrong really, he put a tackle in but it wasnt the best tackle ever, the Spurs players and the media are making so much more of it than it actually is!

All that moaning from Gareth its a shame cause his brother Christian is tough as!!

Gotta love it, spurs players have such huge egos. They'll be much worse next season cos they haven't got harry gettin the best out of them. Anyone see what walker said? "It's simple, Adam is jealous of Bale" What? His hairstyle? What's simple is they're all overrated at spurs, except parker, and the fact gareth and kyle's heads have no brain in them..

Isn't it amazing how the media will side with a player that is a confessed diver who refused to play in the Olympics as long as there is something negative to be said about a Liverpool player and our club? another example of the hatred the media have for LFC...

 

 

30 Jul 2012 18:11:33
Thinking about this loan signing logically, do people really think that its going to be David Villa? And how good a signing would this actually be (age, wages, injury). I am of the thinking that with BR connections with Mourinho and reported connections and invites from Barca that the deal will likely be a player from with RM or Barca. I would think that if Barca would look to sell Villa if they were to get rid of him rather than loan due to his age. As for Kaka again I would think RM would prefer a sale while they can still re-couperate some of the large transfer fee that they paid for the player. I think it is much more likely that the player too sign on loan will be young and also a player that one of the aforementioned teams want to keep hold of, i.e. Di Maria, Sahin, Tello, Alcantara, Callejon. With rumours of Sahin being loaned to Arsenal if I had to guess this is who I would suggest. The questions all so remains are these players classed as 'Star' players and depending on who you talk to or who's perception who is a 'Star' player?

 

 

30 Jul 2012 18:06:25
Eds what will happen to ferdi n terry nw dey have bin charged hope dey get 7 match ban like suarez did??

Basy {Ed022's Note - It is very complicated, and I would suggest that it is kept off of this site as it will cause abuse. I would expect punishments to be given, put it that way.}

 

 

30 Jul 2012 18:02:18
personally if i was rodgers i would sell skertle(spelling) for as much as possible as i think agger and coates appear much more of the ball playing type. I would then allow charagher(spelling) to retire as he seems of the pace. Then bring in a finished article defender if u know what i mean and another younger player around early 20s

I'm not quite sold on coates being ready yet.. anyone else?

Charager? wtf man carragher is a liverpool legend

Mixed bag for me. I'd love to see Coates play a few more games and for me he's 21, a pretty established international, and came with a decent size price tag (~£8M as I recall), so if he's not ready then I don't know that he will ever be and he should probably go on loan or something...

I don't see the logic here.
Sell Skrtel to bring in an 'article defender', well he is one. And who do you suggest is realistic for us and of equal or better quality?
also bring in a younger one in their '20s', we have two being Coates and Wilson, not to mention a couple in the reserves

If it isn't broke, don't fix it. Our defence is fine, our problem is up front.

 

 

30 Jul 2012 17:56:48
can someone explain why we are selling aqua. He fits perfectly into 433 and fits the pass and move style rodgers will play and for only 7mill. Personally would prefer him to allen cos is anyone else seeing that maybe he only looked good in an average bpl team a bit like adam {Ed022's Note - People like you make me want to rage.}

Dosnt he play for a swansea side who in my opinion play some excellent football and what ive seen of allen he looks like hel be a decent player whatever team hes in looks very gifted idk if thats just me tho. as i say thats just my opinion cheers CRAIG

Jesus.........perhaps an Aqua page should be set up so all the deluded morons can keep their personic posts off the main pages!! leffeman101

Maybe because he's a joke and a waste of 125k a wk if the echo is correct, we need people who want to play for us

Scouseme

Release it Ed022. I might just join you.

Red Rout

Ed022, you are my new favourite Ed. I rage alongside you.

BigBadBen

Fair shout Ed. That see you next Tuesday Aquilani treats LFC like a used nappy for 3 years and people still want him to stay.

Taxi for Alberto. Mind the door doesn't hit you on the arse on the way out.

AD

When Allen flops and we all add his name alongside Adam spearing downing Carroll Henderson (ones that flopped last season) then none of you can say I knew he would flop. Keep your mouth shut and watch how we suffer.

Aqualani represents something pretty close to 5% of our total wage bill near as I can tell. That's more than ridiculous, it's downright criminal.

Anything we can get back for him would help tremendously in funding players who maybe actually want to play for and live in Liverpool.

Because Aquilani basically takes the piss. Reodgers clearly said he wants people who will give 100% for the club, Aquilani frankly couldn't give a toss about our tradition, history or ethos. For that reason, despite his (in my opinion) average class, he is not a long term option until he bucks up his ideas and puts a bit of pride into his performances.

Swansea were also far from average last season, as were Blackpool the year previous and were unlucky to be relegated, for the record. That kind of ignorance is hideous. Swansea were remarkable and it should be recognised

 

 

30 Jul 2012 17:13:41
Hi eds,
Just wanted some info on friendlies, tours, etc. When a club goes away for these sort of games, what are the arrangements likes...ESP when it comes to money...does the organizer bear it all+the sponsors or do the clubs also put in some cash. Secondly, does a club make money out of these tours and friendlies,..
Thanks
Samsaliva from Malaysia. {Ed022's Note - I don't know the exact figures etc, but clubs tend to gain a bit of money from the ticket sales etc of these games, but primarily do it for publicity and expansion of the global market. E.G. Touring the USA was to extend the fanbase etc. A club makes more money than it loses from these tours that's for sure, unless the club is really poor.}

 

 

30 Jul 2012 17:06:08
What price do you think we will get for Agger if he leaves. I would like 20 million plus AJ from city. 10 million plus affellay tello and villa on loan or even a straight swap with real for higuain.

I also understand that I'm dreaming but we should be looking for 30 million. {Ed022's Note - We won't get that.}

What did everton get for lescott, it must at least match that

You're quite the optimist.
I think it's out of the question that he will leave, but I think his value is around £15-20m without any player exchange.

You cant really value a defender against a striker really, so the agger/higuan swap is both implausible and unrealistic.

£15-20m for one of the finest centre-backs in the world? I'd tell them to feck off.

If we sell Agger for that price - we are a joke. Seriously.

BJH YNWA

 

 

30 Jul 2012 16:40:40
Hey Ed's, are clubs allowed to sell players when they are not in their transfer window? Does it only apply to buying players or both buying and selling? Thanks for your good work and thanks in advance.

Brian from Birmingham {Ed022's Note - Yes they are mate.}

Anelka to China, for example, took place in December.

 

 

30 Jul 2012 18:02:15
Any truth in the reports suggesting that Dempsey has stayed home from Fulhams tour to Switzerland to force through a move to us? Cheers, Scouserseb

 

 

30 Jul 2012 18:00:31
the loan will be either kaka,villa,robinho,johnson,affelay

You could narrow it down a bit. You may as well say the loan deal will be for a footballer, more than likely a man.

MIKEY

I reckon it's Affellay

Coxy82

 

 

30 Jul 2012 16:56:26
Hey ed, any chance Alexis Sanchez could be the major star signing on loan? He has struggled with inconsistency, n with villa returning could be forced to sit on the bench.
Indian Buzzer {Ed049's Note - No, he is pretty much in their plans.}

 

 

30 Jul 2012 17:43:02
Chevrolet make manc-ky cars and their logo is manc-ky and will look manc-ky on those manc-ky shirts.

Fordy

With a name like 'Fordy' what do u expect?

Any chance we can get you to sponsor us then FORDy? Lol

Chevy is a brand

LFC is a brand

Something wrong with brands?

Not a bad deal if Reuters are correct, apparently Chevy will pay United ($100m) £64m as an advanced payment then £45m every season for seven years. That is £25m more than our current AON deal. The club will receive a £64m cash gift in the meantime. Just hope it goes on transfers.

Disney!

 

 

30 Jul 2012 17:22:43
I'm hoping for higuain on loan.
We are desperate for a clinical striker, I know we have borini but for me he is still so young and we are kind of chucking him in at the deep end.
Don't really want kaka, he's not the player he once was, unfortunately and I really can't see him bringing much to the team. Whereas higuain would have a massive impact.
I know I'm being massively optimistic but I have seen stranger things in football.
Brendan has a good relationship with mourinho.
Liverpool are not in competition with real Madrid next season,
He's surplus to requirements,
And he will get loads of much wanted game time.
Dare we dream??

MIKEY

Transfers in

Fabio Borini £10.5m
Ricardo "Kaka" - loan (as part of the agger and higuain deal)
Clint Dempsey - £7m (tops)
Juan Vargas - swap Aquilani
Gonzalo Higauin - Agger plus £14m
Fernando Amorebieta - £9m
= £40.5m

Transfers out

Downing - £10m
Bellamy - £2m
Adam - £5.5m
Aquilani - swap for vargas plus £1m
Kuyt - £1m
Maxi - free
Jones - free
carroll - £18m
= £35.5m

- £40.5m = £5m spent in this transfer window


dempsey, higuain, suarez
kaka, gerrard
lucas
enrique, Amorebieta, skrtel, johnson
reina

doni, kelly, coates, henderson, shelvey, vargas, borini

It's time to wake up now sleepyhead

Siggle

 

 

30 Jul 2012 17:04:42
Apparently the aquilani deal is now off after the door hit him on the way out leading to yet another "injury"

MIKEY

 

 

30 Jul 2012 17:34:29
I would just like to defend charlie adam against bale and tottenhm if gb was at the olympics with gb team like he was meant to be then he wouldnt of been on the pitch against liverpool to get injured by charlie but he was apparently already injured so had to pull out yet played 2 games is it now for tottenham so whos the coward? and i now wouldnt trust nethin bale says and je hasnt got a right to criticise anyone. cheers CRAIG

"drury lane tap dancers" as shanks used to refer to spurs,hardly "horrific"

I agree and also bale is the coward, he played 5 mins on the left wing only to b emptied by young flanno n then switched with Lennon because he knew the young lad was gonna make him look like a wee boy! Never liked Gareth bale and like him even less now!

Gazman10

I have been very lucky as a Celtic fan to meet many Scottish men,women and children on my trips to Celtic Park and cowardly is not a word I could use to describe any of them,lets see if Bale repeats his comments to his face.It was a clumsy tackle,end of story,it doesn't help that Bale is made of glass.
Eric The Real Red
Y.N.W.A

I think he hurt himself diving.
Red branch

 

 

30 Jul 2012 17:31:38
I think loan signing will be Pato with carrol going the other way

Lee

 

 

30 Jul 2012 17:28:31
Macca has said a 'star' will come in on loan. He didn't say from where, Italy,Spain,Germany, but to be fair there are only a few teams in the world who could afford to loan a star player out so the possibilities as I see them are

Kaka (unlikely but would be nice if he could stay fit)

Callejon (there would be no shortage of buyers I'm sure so loan seems unlikely)

Villa (Sure they would want him for upcoming season as they try to get the title back from Madrid, biggest goal threat in the team after Messi)

Pedro (Not getting much game time, possible)

Affelay (Very likely as cant seem him featuring much next season)

Sahin (would be a great addition in center mid, fill the role that Alonso left)

Pazzini (Rumored to be on his way out of Inter, not really a star but a good good striker)

Robinho (Again rumored to be leaving Milan, talented but overrated and probably wouldn't fancy a return to the prem)

Quaresma (Financial and contractual issues at Besiktas, possible but again is he classified as a 'star' any more)

How is Callejon a star?

No he said the is a chance a star will be signed on loan, key word CHANCE

Adebayor, City want RVP and he will not play in the same team as Adebayor. Something has to give somewhere.
Robbie

To be fair, I believe he said there is a good chance, not that it was a done deal, so not sure why everyone is getting all excited just yet.

 

 

30 Jul 2012 17:12:26
I think we will be really surprised at the players we sign between now and the end of the window plus I also think we will be surprised by the outgoings as well but that's just my opinion.

Nothing suprises me... With the emphasis on 'nothing'

Think about it

 

 

30 Jul 2012 17:11:22
Why are we all getting excited about a getting a supposed star player on loan, I for one find it disturbing that our fans are willing to accept loaned players as an acceptable way for our club to operate. Its small time thinking by FSG and we should never allow a loaned player to detract from the fact that is just a sleight of hand gimmick from these owners.

If these guys were serious the would stump up the money to make this team competitive, but we all know that isn't going to happen. Haggling over the Joe Allen and Clint Dempsey fee's, we will lose out there for sure, not that they are anything special anyway, but wait and then watch the speed and professionalism as another club handles the negotiations to sign these players.

Also we are in-line to lose Agger, Skrtel, Agger, Reina, Carroll and god knows who else, once one goes the stampede will start, believe me the players know what the clubs ambitions are and its no surprise that we are hearing plenty of rumblings from our players at the moment. It means FSG are mugging us all off, because we will just sign replacements and not add players to improve the overall quality of the squad. The current senior players see this and its why many will soon be playing at more ambitious clubs and in all honesty most fans see it as well, FSG will never admit it though. These replacement players will be cheaper and of lesser current stature but can be developed for the future, I believe selling club best fits this description, its only a matter of time before we sell our first player to United.

I can guarantee that the team that kicks off the new season will not be any stronger than the one that started the last one, but we will have a shiny loan star that will distract us while FSG will be well on their way to turning a profit.

Kato

Bleeding hell little miss sunshine, I bet your glass hasn't been half-full since your balls dropped.

So if we're fielding, say, Villa rather than Carroll you don't think that would be a stronger line-up?

Red Ollie

I know what you mean about a loan but times have changed. We we cannot afford/attract superstars when city, psg, and all are throwing about stupid money to attract the best. Remember spuds had adebeyour last season on loan and he was pretty effective but they are struggling to do a deal because of his wages. If Kaka, Villa and whoever else that is £150k pw what to turn out for us then great. We cannot afford them.

Hearsay at best. Generally lies. Ted Savage and Allenby Chilton left us to join United admittedly in 1938 so it's already happened suspect it was still the fault of fsg. Do you work for the s*n as i've never seen so much censored and lies. Redevon

Get over yourself mate, we are not in a position to buy all the big name players you want. if you was a real fan ud have faith.

"Stump up the money to make the team competitive"? Not sure what you meant by this?

Not so long ago (maybe 1-2 years back), the club had the fourth highest wage bill at ~£120M and the club is losing money regularly. We still have players like Aquilani collecting massive amounts of cash and providing literally no value (he's on ~£6.5M per year, according to some reports) and there are others like him (Cole, as an example).

The owners have been cleaning house for the past few seasons and are still in the process of doing so. Once the club is actually profitable (not sure why being profitable is something you think is apparently 'bad') we'll probably see more of the 'big investments' I think you're looking for, but in the meantime I think it's pretty clear they're trying to maximize additional sources of revenue (e.g. Warrior, Chevolet, Standard Chartered, and reality series on Fox Soccer) while trimming down the wage bill and simultaneously trying to improve the vastly underperforming squad they've inherited and unfortunately added to over the past few windows. This is not trivial nor is it simple and a few mistakes might be made, but I think your characterization of the owners as being 'gimmicky' and (my inference based on your verbage) greedy is well off the mark.

Have the owners made mistakes? Absolutely. My belief is they made two huge ones- They vastly underestimated a) how finicky Liverpool supporters are and b) how crappily (if that's a word) the club was run previously.

RDL

This post goes to prove there is no pleasing everybody. If FSG were to go ahead and pay big money for a permanent move for this so called star people like yourselves would be labeling it to risky and stupid.

They try and buy English and we moan but if they bought only foreigners like Arsenal we would be saying were losing our identity.

I recall a decent loan signing Mcallister that turned out ok. Also we loaned Anelka that turned out OK.

There never gonna please everyone including me, but my optimism is not blind it is through HOPE like the other fans of 92 clubs starting there season in two weeks time.

Mike S

I am pretty sure if you had a business you would want it to be profitable.You must agree that FSG saved us from a similar fate to Rangers.They have the same dream and expectations that the fans have,I for one would like us to get success by building a hungry team and not by buying Mega stars that are interested in how much money we're paying them.We all know that there are teams in the premiership that can blow us away in the transfer market,but if we can build a young team that want to work for each other we could go on a successful journey together.Get behind the team and dream of glory,on the fields of Anfield Rd.

True to some extent however Dempsey is not youn, neither building a future round an aging loan star whilst at the same time off loading a young english centre forward

 

 

30 Jul 2012 17:06:08
Is it true agger wants out? i will be gutted if he goes. We should not sell for anything less than 25 million.
Indian Buzzer

 

 

30 Jul 2012 17:03:44
anybody think it could be a possibility that Madrid may sign Canavi and Higuian could be the "star player" coming on loan 2 us ? its a possibility nobody has mentioned yet. what do the eds think? irishcon

If Cavani goes to Real Madrid then why wouldn't Madrid consider selling Higuian? I'm sure there would be no shortage of potential suitors.

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96 {Ed049's Note -

Loads of people have mentioned it lol
Skurks

Personally, I think they'd consider selling Higuain for the right price whether Cavani goes there or not.

I could envision a scenario where we could put in a bit of a cheeky bid for him, but it would require a lot of personnel movement on our side out.

 

 

30 Jul 2012 16:59:53
tevez impressed by the fabulous golf courses on merseyside and loves the wirrall peninsula, see's it as a much nicer place than dreary mancland. He's not wrong there.
So no surprise to see Tevez at Lfc.
kidmillions

Manchester is the only place where the accents are worse than the Wirral

Nothin wrong with Wirral accent u cheeky s**t

Never been to birmingham?
Or America?

MIKEY

Ever been to Bristol or the Brum?

Andy K

 

 

30 Jul 2012 16:49:30
Adebayor to Liverpool loan maybe on a free with a wage cut with a big sign on fee to help compensate his 5mill off city


Sc89

Adebayor is the best we can get on loan ffs

Lol yh i wouldn't mind signing him for £10m and having city pay him of so that he could be on lower wages.

"there would be no difference but gerrard might want a bigger contract etc etc......"

then still sign the loan player because i know its not him who the star is.

 

 

30 Jul 2012 16:45:13
My bets on the loan signing are Sahin or Adam Johnson. Don't expect Villa or Kaka.

Red Viking

Haha, Adam Johnson "star player"!

 

 

30 Jul 2012 16:40:45
Im hearing loan deal is defo from real madrid. BR using his old friend for a player no one else would get on loan

It would be amazing if it was ozil. highly unlikely though

 

 

30 Jul 2012 16:37:34
I hope this star player is a flair player by that I mean a really good skill full attacking player who Suarez could link up with now maxi has gone and Carroll and bellers could leave it would be unfair to ask to much too quick of borini . My absolute dream loanee would be Torres ( I kno he's a turn coat and all the rest) but i was gutted us Liverpool fans never got to see that Suarez/torres partnership upfront I think I would and could crush any defence in Europe especially with gerrard in the team and Lucas

Davros flatley

I agree mate but it's never going to happen let's be honest.

 

 

30 Jul 2012 16:34:06
Mystery loan signing is none other than Robinho!

RK LFC

Torres please

 

 

30 Jul 2012 16:31:06
hello eds, great site, i just want to say that i would love to see ramirez at liverpool, he could bring natural flair, great creativity and a set piece that could beat the 1st man, (unlike adam), i dont see where swansea are getting 15 million from for joe allen, yes hes a good player but not worth 15million in my opinion, i would also like us to go in for victor moses as we could offer him 1st team football, with them signings and maybe a couple more we could realistically challenge for top 4, thanks eds!

 

 

30 Jul 2012 16:20:56
All this talk of Villa and rossi coming on loan due to recovery from injuries doesn't make sense. If I was a manager, the last place I would send one of my players is to the EPL to get match fitness. After all, isn't the EPL supposed to be a more ohysical league??

Red Sunrise

 

 

30 Jul 2012 16:19:30
As i have said n numerous occasions and i do not want to give my sources away, a Brazilian will be on his way to Anfield.
Watch this space.
Also like to inform all fans not to take note of media publications on skysports or the Sun and many others.
They are haters of our past success and are keen to lower Liverpools reputation.
There headlines when they mention Liverpool are always of negativity.
When Cisse broke his legs they hardly ever mentioned the player who did it. Adams tackle on bale was as nasty as many others in the premiership yet they are constantly talking about it.
Bale aint injured, let it drop.

Damo

Can you give us a clue on who it is

The tackle/tackles weren't that bad Damo mate. Bale should have done what he admitted in doing and 'diving so he dosnt get hurt'. He couldn't dive quick enough so he moans about getting tackled instead. This guy has got his head so far up his own a5s and believes his own hype. That he thinks that no-one has a right to tackle him.

Who is this Brazilian you keep banging on about Damo mate?

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96

If you're a liverpool fan you won't even read any report from the sun. Goes without saying.

I have no idea why 'the tackle' is even remotely news. There are far worse tackles nearly every game during the regular season. Too bad Bale isn't with Team GB as wonder would he would make of a fe Senegalese tackles?

Curious about 'the Brazillian' as well. You've been very insistent on this for some time and if something does come about not sure you'll get the credit you may deserve unless you're perhaps a bit more specific. Technically we know we're looking at that new Neymar kid. He checks the box... Could you at least perhaps say what league he plays in?

 

 

30 Jul 2012 16:15:01
Eds..Aquilani rumours to Fiorentina valid? I read through number of reports, nothing confirmed as of yet..

Chaki {Ed019's Note - Looks like it}

 

 

30 Jul 2012 16:14:47
Tottenham Hotspur now linked with a 'major' loan signing...

DanS

Haha very good. I hear they are now selling aquilani

Haha - sounds about right.

Spuds scouting system consists of trying to buy everyone Liverpool want.

I'm surprised they've not gone after Chevrolet as a sponsor....

So my idea is that we should start scouting some absolutely terrible players and make our 'interest' in them known and then tottenham will spend all of their money on crap an we can buy our real targets
pato108

Tot. is always looking for loan signings. It's pathetic.
AnfieldUSA

All they need to do now is start wearing all red and move into Anfield South.

Andy K

 

 

30 Jul 2012 16:09:15
HI Guys, great site.
Not transfer related.
Man U have just announced their new shirt sponsor is Chevrolet..and they our car sponsor...Would Liverpool been aware of the pending shirt sponsorship for Man U?
What are peoples thoughts

Whats this got to do with anything?

Who cares?

Hounsred

 

 

30 Jul 2012 16:10:28
The loan star we might be getting could be part of a sale deal which sees one of our players leave.
Agger to Madrid could see Kaka, Sahin, Di Maria or a number of others loaned to us plus cash.
Skrtel to City could see Johnson, Adebayor, Dzeko loaned to us.
Suarez to Napoli could see Cavani come to Anfield.

So I hope that it is a straight loan deal with no player from us, maybe a good one would be Aqualani to Fiorentina for peanuts and Jovetic on loan with a view to permanent move?

Who knows?!?!?!?

Pauleyuk

^ Not you for sure!

 

 

30 Jul 2012 16:07:43
andy carroll to be loaned out to newcastle-fernando torres loaned back to liverpool to wear no 9 shirt for a season long loan. newcasle will pay 3mill and have option to make carroll deal permenant at 15mill.

 

 

30 Jul 2012 16:04:35
Once players like Alonso, Mascherano and Torres started to leave it was difficult to take as a Liverpool fan. Realism suggests that they realised we were not seriously going to compete in the league or europe. The last two years have not been good either so is leading to uncertainity with Agger and Skrtel. If Barcelona come in who can blame him.
If any player is desperate to leave let him go but demand top transfer fees.

Its going to be a long road for BR and we will suffer a number of bad results along the way but i think we are taking the right road. Get rid of the average high earners off the books, get ready of the younger players who wont make it and give the talented ones Suso, Sterling etc the opportunity to shine.

I am sure that BR will bring in players that can bring a little more quality to the squad. We need to trust him and the club to do the right thing.

Is your name Mr Happy? {Ed022's Note - Only on the weekends, on week-days he goes with Mr Cuddles.}

 

 

30 Jul 2012 15:46:59
Any signings likely today or tomorrow ? Need to start adding quality to the squad ready to blend for the start of the season ! C'mon lads make some signings ASAP please

 

 

30 Jul 2012 15:28:02
Hi Eds, This is my first time posting. I heard from a reliable source about a failed negotiation regarding Gaston Ramirez. Here is how it happened: BR tried to do some research about Ramirez during the discussion with the player. It was found out later that Ramirez had no link at all with Swansea City FC before, and had no idea if the club even existed. BR was so disappointed that he decided for the future, never to have a negotiation without first screening any players link with Swansea FC. Disappointing indeed, isn't it?

Not really. you're not funny

Humour Jim but not as we know it.

PieInTheSkyMan

I can honestly say after reading it three times I have not got a clue what your trying to say!

Paul the red

I'm a bit disapointed with myself for reading the whole thing.

MIKEY

This is a little confusing - fist off, why WOULD Gaston have any link at all to Swansea? second, was the point about BRs dissappointment made because his managerial experience was mostly from a team that the player had never heard of? lastly, why would BR need to 'screen a players link to swansea'?

any help would be greatly appreciated!

Ha. I think that's pretty funny.

Brilliant Mate and unfortunately soo true.

for those that can't understand it here goes - if any potential targets can't trace their lineage back to swansea Rogers won't be signing them.

Are you paul the psychological octopiss,or mustique meg.

 

 

30 Jul 2012 15:41:14
Remember Gareth Bale admitting he does dive? He said: "It's not really diving, just trying to get out of the way of the challenges." So shut up chimp face, it's you who is the coward. As for Walker saying Charlie is jealous of Bale's talent, once Bale's pace goes he will be incredibly ordinary, as will Walker. Two of the most over rated players in the country believing the hype about them and talking rubbish to the press real classy lads, but what do you expect from a club like Spurs? Just look at their arrogant fans.
A Kopite.

Spot on mate, they finished above us twice in the last couple a years and there arrogance is unreal, I think it's them two clowns who are jealous after all neither of them have ever won anything, plus Charlie like him or loathe him is playing for one of the biggest clubs in world football, so have a word with yourselves walker and bale

Its not fair to say they havnt won anything, im pretty sure they won the eusebio cup last year

Garth Bale looks like Hermann Munsters off spring anyway whats the long face for,i think it was a fair tackle,but there again i am biased,but he does seem to be a bit of a tit doesnt he.

 

 

30 Jul 2012 15:36:07
Afternoon Ed's,

Any chance of Mesut Ozil on loan?

Not sure of his status within the Madrid squad or whether is position would be in doubt but he would be a fantastic addition to our squad,very optimistic I know...

Emlyn {Ed019's Note - Nope}

 

 

30 Jul 2012 15:32:59
Tribal Football stating that Liverpool have accepted a bid for Aquilani from Fiorentina.

Rman

Cheers fr the info mate,shame ur about a day late

Hope so, its become an embarrassment that we have been shafted by the Italian clubs and his agent

 

 

30 Jul 2012 15:22:02
With David Villa's name flying about now, less put it into perspective. Barcelona suffered greatly without him (plus injuries to Pedro&Alexis). They need him to be fully fit (he has been given the medical green light) but i think Barcelona are wary and dont want to take that risk, whilst they also have the return of what looks to me a fully fit Alexis,Pedro plus youngsters like cuenca,tello,deulofeu. Not only that Barcelona have an important decision to make wether to bring Neymar in now or later. As the Barcelona vice president mentioned he would like to bring him in after the olympics. Neymar will not only come in for a heavy transfer package which is already being paid in instalments since last year, but also a vast amount of wages. If Villa left on loan, barcelona will probably only pay part of his wages, leaving them with more for Neymars Arrival.

Hopefully it is Villa as a Spaniard my self the days of garcia and alonso gave me great joy. less see what unfolds.

I thought Neymar was moving there after the World Cup 2014 not the Olympics?

RedSG

 

 

30 Jul 2012 15:11:49
Out of interest Eds who are the teams most interested in Agger and Skrtle? Would be sickened if Skrtle left but I think it would be a nightmare if Agger were to move on.

88 {Ed019's Note - Man City, Barcelona, Real Madrid}

Skrtel!! Please spell our own players names correctly!

Omg so he did not the hit the spelling.we new who he ment.lfc for life is all that matter's.walk on

Thanks for the reply ed, and to the polly pissy pants who has nothing better to do other then search for spelling mistakes at least I spelled Agger's name right.

88

 

 

30 Jul 2012 14:42:53

Hi Eds keep up the good work

I was looking at this so called bad tackle Charlie adam done on Bale, now its a bit late but no way does it warrant all the statements coming outa the spurs side, now i hope everyone is taking note of this as i think this bale is a bit fragile and doesnt like a bit of rough give him a good hard knock in the first 10mins and lets see who the coward is i dont think adam is a coward maybe he was just too slow for bale thats all.tommy Irish Red.

Spurs should have taken him off straight away if he was that badly hurt, but he played for the rest of the first half, approx 20 mins.
This is all to cover up that the poor decision has aggrivated his injury.

Sandro is gonna smash wee jock poo mcplop ! #teamBale

Much love

It's "wee poo PONG mc plop!"if you are going to quote blackadder do so correctly! My little drury lane tap dancer! Much more love! Best wishes to Harry redknapp's dog rosey x

 

 

30 Jul 2012 14:39:03
IN resonse to Macca's post:

I really hope its not Kaka?
My money is on Afferley, robben or most likely

DAVID VILLA!

I'm not sure if he is fully recovered yet but my money is on him or kaka, but personally do not think we need Kaka at all. He just isn't the same player anymore. Villa though would be great, so would Honda but don't see him being loaned out

gareth

A past it, injury prone, out of form, one legged, blind, deaf, lacking in motivation, Kaka is still easily better than all our attacking options bar suarez and possibly Gerrard.

We finished 8th FFS. We arent in a position to say Kaka isnt good enough for us

 

 

30 Jul 2012 14:38:19
Regarding what Macca said about a major star signing on loan, I get the feeling that it will be Nuri Sahin. Just for the fact that he would see very limited playing time at Real this season, especially if they sign Modric. I also feel a midfield of Lucas, Sahin and Gerrard would work really well.

Rafa's Purple Goatie

 

 

30 Jul 2012 15:04:48
!!

The new 'star loan' is Torres!!


Sorry just had to ;)

Redman j4t96 ynwa

 

 

30 Jul 2012 14:45:26
our slow transfer activity making our stars want to leave

What a absolutly stupid thing to say.

He is right about transfers been slow, the players want to leave because the club isn't showing any ambition

Ambition left with Kenny

Has it come too this ha.what just because we did not sign 10 player's day one of the window,are player's will want too leave yes.WAKE UP.Are boys are on big money too play for are lfc fact.just like all of us just wait and see what happens,STOP MOANING.

 

 

30 Jul 2012 14:22:49
Can everybody please stop suggesting Villa could be the loan star. He was the person who kept telling Torres to leave us and join Chelsea because "he needs to play for a big club"

If he's telling players to leave us, why would he join us himself? Don't want him anywhere near us personally after those comments.

There is a simple reason to this. AT the time Villa was still a strong presence on the pitch. He is aging and coming off injury and is looking less and less start worthy. He will advertise interest anywhere he can get first team play.

 

 

30 Jul 2012 14:16:18
Suarez
Borini

Kaka Ramirez
Downing Cole

Allen Lucas Gerrard
Jonjo Spearing Hendo

Enrique Agger Skrtel Johnson
Robinson Coates Carra Kelly

Reina
de Vries

If you swapped Kaka for a more realistic signing, I think that could be the make up of our squad...Oh and included Andy Carroll somewhere

RedSG

Kaka and Ramirez are very similar players if you've been watching the Olympics they play alike.

No arguments there.
An 8-6-4-2 formation would definitely be beneficial. Sadly I think this might be against the rules.

 

 

30 Jul 2012 14:08:29
It's Messi who's coming on loan. Honest lar. He's in the dog house for missing the penalty against Chelsea.

The deal is He must take all the penalties we get this season and if we get over 20 penalties and he scores them all as well as 15 hatricks in the premier league before Christmas or he can frigging stay in Liverpool. (a direct quote from the Barca president) They will pay all his wages for all season.
If he fails to perform all the above we can have him for 5m. This is absolutely gen lar. If you don't believe me, ask me mate.

BS

Well that's done it for me, I'm off down the bookies to put my life savings on him coming to LFC.

Danny

Lmao luv it , at last someone on here with a sense of humour instead of all the whingers well done m8 u cheered m up ... steve

Im going to bed early to celebrate his arrival at melwood.

Nice one lar,

 

 

30 Jul 2012 14:04:42
I can remember a couple of seasons back when we pushed so close to the league and were a genuine force there were so many rumours of us having Villa to play up top with torres .......... if only ( we brought Robbie Keane instead )

Now it seems its possible villa could be on his way just a shame we were not the force of a few years back.

Who knows who will end up at the club but i think we need to focus on keeping decent players and breeding familiarity - thats what got us so close !

And if we get there again, which we will lets complete the jigsaw next time !

Red Jonny 1

We couldn't get villa because the owners refused to give rafa the money to fund him. We were also looking at silva around that same period. Hicks and Gillette are to blame for that one

 

 

30 Jul 2012 13:44:13
if we sell agger it would be a disaster,agger and skrtl played very well last season.
watched some highlight on lfc tv from last season we played some good football,and do not understand why we dont buy a midfielder to replace spearing.
wingers to replace kuyt and maxi.
spearing was not good enough to replace the injured lucas last season and wont be next season.
shelevey has impressed me and would be ahead of adam for me.

i know we cannot go and buy what we want but these 4 players are needed.
our defence is strong,carra will need to be replaced soon.
midfield with gerrard lucas henderson shelvey and 1 new buy,if we can sell aqua and adam 2 new players.
suarez borini carroll downing we need to stenghten up front we need another 2 players to come in.
bellamy cant play all the matches anymore.
in a 4/3/3 formation adam and carra will find it hard.
johnson and enrique will have some freedom to attack from the back,just look at ajax and barce there fullbacks always go forward because the midfield dominates the game.
suarez will understand the system he played it for years at ajax scoring over 25 a season.
carroll will have to be able to hold the ball,15 years ago barca had a player like him salinas.
if carroll is able to that he will have a great future.
i would try to buy erikson he will be a great player for us in midfield and will only get better.
with shelvey suso sterling coming up things will be much better next year,they are not ready yet but they are nearly there.

 

 

30 Jul 2012 13:23:33
Hi ed. With Maccas post on a top star on loan, whats the situation with Higuain. I have always thought it was highly unlikely for him to join Liverpool as he would probably want Champions league football but with the way Benzema played last season and with Madrid still interested in Cavani, Higuain must know his chances at Madrid are limited. I remember you saying a couple of months back that he was being offered to Chelsea but with Chelsea still looking to get Hulk then that looks unlikely. Is there any clubs in the champions league showing an interest in him as he wouldn't want to be stuck on the bench all season and Madrid wont want to be paying such high wages for a third choice striker who will hardly be used.

Gaz

 

 

30 Jul 2012 13:16:45
Arjen Robben will complete loan move to LFC by end of the week. He is eager to join up with Cole and Rodgers and feels unwanted at Munich especially by their fans some of which booed him in a recent pre-season friendly. He sees LFC as a great opportunity to return to the Premier League and impress playing good football. Expect news to filter through tonight.

Hope not. great technical player, but very greedy. tries to do everything on his own, not the type of player we need right now. or ever.

Wouldn't be a bad player for a loan, still he's a bit of a t*t tho isn't he.
Scouseme

I hope you are way off the mark on this one. I hold him solely responsible for chelsea's champions league win as he was trying to be the hero and failed miserably. He is the most selfish player I have ever seen on a football pitch. If I was a bayern fan I'd do more than boo him

Cudge

Would actually make sense. Still doubt it for some reason.

Robben is over-rated, selfish and he is getting on - never in a month of Sundays

 

 

30 Jul 2012 12:38:50
Agger to Barca with Villa coming the other way!!

I'd take £20 million and David Villa.

Will Love to See Villa with us. we need a finisher the chance we creat if half of them finish well then we are in top 4.

Would rather tello affellay and villa on season long loan plus about 10 million.

 

 

30 Jul 2012 12:19:17
The major star to come on loan will have to be a striker or winger,so we can forget about Alonso,Xavi,Kaka etc.
it has to be David Villa imo,i think this relies on Agger signing for Barca.

I don't think it's Villa, as he seems to figure in Barcelona's plans. Infact he is playing in a friendly against Man Utd on 8 August......the mystery continues...

 

 

30 Jul 2012 11:45:15
What would you say are the chances of Kaka being the major star signing on loan as said by Kaka? {Ed023's Note - Slim but, always a chance I suppose}

 

 

30 Jul 2012 11:19:30
The signs for me point to Kaka/Higuain/Di Maria with Brendan Rodgers and Jose Mourinho being close, Eds do you think these players may possibly move on loan to Liverpool.
IcemanLFC {Ed023's Note - Anything is possible but let's wait and see instead}

 

 

30 Jul 2012 12:50:34
So, Rasmus Elm has signed for CSKA Moscow - thats great news meaning he'll stop being linked with LFC - he is definately not good enough to play for our club and others nothing more than what we already have!

 

 

30 Jul 2012 12:46:36
See the press are all over the Adam / Bale thing.
I have seen the tackle and although not good, is more clumsy (Adam is slow) that nasty.
I have to ask the question why do the press jump onto anything negative about LFC?
Very subdued press about the Terry incident
There does appear to be some sort of agenda against our club...

I was at the game on Saturday an the tackle was clumsy but, not that bad. Bale and AVB are making too much of it. T

The press haven't jumped on anything. Bales quotes create the story and there's clearly history between the two. It was an awful tackle and no LFC fan should defend it. If it had happened to one of our players we'd rightly be angry. We're supposed to be knowledgable fans not blinkered.

PieInTheSkyMan

Its just that spuds mr lavy are so media sensitive. there is a news even if levy farts. So thats how tottenham is.

And abt bale. He is the biggest cry baby i have sean. Always moaning abt something. It just a tackle. Good bad ugly whatever is a part of football. He a7 making as if adam chopped his leg with a knife.

Is this a media driven issue or a Spurs driven issue?.. Im pretty sure had AVB and Bale not made comments with regards to 'nasty' tackle that the press wouldnt have taken any notice of it other than to say Bale took a knock in a pre season game after a clumsy takle from Adam.
With Terry its not just the press that are biased, its the FA, Chelsea and most of the football world.. Suarez charged with Racism, Terry charged with abusive language.. One rule for golden boy another for the Foreigner.. A lot of the crap LFC got over this issue was self imflicted by behaving in a way that made us look like we didnt give a toss about racism, whether we were justifyed to support Suarez wasnt the point, politically we had 'to be seen' to be dealing with it.. the press jumped on that and made a meal out of it.. they cant do that with Terry cos he had a police/trial that 'proved' him innocent..
Its rubbish for us to put up with but we just have to see it thru and come out the other side. It will be someone elses turn to be lambasted by the press soon enough.
ItsNotRocketScience

I dunno what he is crying about. give me his wages and i'd happily get kicked about a pitch by mr adam.
derryred

 

 

30 Jul 2012 12:42:42
hey eds any chance of us hijacking the Cazorla deal? {Ed049's Note - nope}

 

 

30 Jul 2012 12:40:43
Wish people would stop being sracastic and knocking everyone's rumours...isn't that what this site is all about? Personally I think the loan star is David Villa...just my opinion like not saying it's going to happen...who does everyone else think it's going to be?

Richie

I reckon it's Kaka. Especially if they get Modric.

I thought it was going to be the Dark kNight himself..The Batman as our second kit resembles the batman outfit ;-p

Speedy

 

 

30 Jul 2012 12:31:20
Wasn't the groundwork for a deal for David Villa done in January? I distinctly remember rumours of a loan deal then before he got injured. A loan deal suits both clubs. Barca will want rid of his wages whilst he recovers. LFC will benefit from his goals and his experience, plus it keeps Pepe happy. I hope it happens, imagine what Borini and Morgan can learn from Villa and Suarez!

 

 

30 Jul 2012 12:29:16
I feel the loan signing will definitely be of one player from either Real Madrid or F.C Barcelona. I really doubt a rival in England would loan us a star player... Hope its David Villa. :) would be a shocker and just the spark that our team needs right now to kick off next season.

What about Royston Drenthe ??

Royston Drenthe major star!!!!! I think not.

 

 

30 Jul 2012 12:28:57
My money is on Pato 5mil for 1 year!
Doodler

Hope not. this guy can't play more than 45 minutes without getting injured

Marc

 

 

30 Jul 2012 12:21:03
I know it's just rumours but ed, supposedly saying villa is the star player but with the likes of borini, downing, potentially dempsey and ramirez would that mean bellamy would be the most likely to be sold?

 

 

30 Jul 2012 12:18:44
A few nuggets to persuade you the loan signing is Pato.

His name was strangely uttered by Rodgers in a press conference when there was no reason to name check him.

If we're doing a loan to buy it won't be for a 30 something (Villa)

Pato has been messing around with Berlusconis daughter so a change of scene might be advisable.

If the rumours of Kakas loan to AC are correct you have to ask who's leaving to pay for his wages.

Pato has had injury problems so a loan deal is smart but he would be an extra rather than a Carroll replacement.

PieInTheSkyMan

Pato is vastly overrated

None of these in anyway suggest that pato will be coming to liverpool. in fact, I'd go so far as to say that not one of these things even regards liverpool apart from Rodgers 'utterance'

What do you mean "his name was strangely uttered by Rodgers"? What did he say?

Red Ollie

Over rated?
Check his stats in a major Euro league after moving as a teenager.
His injuries are believed to be down to his body growing rapidly and his muscles being put under strain. Fitness obviously a concern but his ability and goal scoring record surely not in doubt. That's why he'd be a loan - there is a risk involved.

PieInTheSkyMan

Hugely over-rated and made of glass.

All the evidence points to Pato

I have said all this before

Leam Red

I am not saying I think it is Pato at all however if Kaka was to join AC Milan then wouldnt they need to create space for a non-euro player? I may be well out of date with this but I thought this was a issue last year.

Andy K

 

 

30 Jul 2012 12:17:55
Bacelona B play in their second division, why would they send him anywhere else for game time and fitness?
I do think he is a possiblity however.
Kaka will head back to milan if the wages can be sorted.
Tevez would be mad to leave city, his partnership with Aguero looked brilliant at times, and that is the best chance of both of them getting into the Argentine team, however he's not right in the head.
I have a feeling it will be a French, German or Brazilian.

 

 

30 Jul 2012 12:12:38
hi eds, please post this and reply to my question.
what 'major star' players are available on loan from any club? could you give me a few names, the best ones you can think of!
thanks, Ian {Ed049's Note - 'Major Star' is subjective, but if you see Sahin is available on loan.}

And aquilani and spearing are leaving at the same time

It may be subjective but surely no one- with the greatest respect to him- would refer to Sahin as a 'major star'

 

 

30 Jul 2012 12:13:43
Not sure what to believe about Aquilani and Fiorentina. Is he gone or is he going there? On this site it seems to be decided, but can't find any info on this elsewhere. Eds?

Erik_Oslo {Ed049's Note - It looks as if he is on his way out.}

I will believe it when I see it on LFC or Fiorentina's website. Hope it is true .
CR

 

 

30 Jul 2012 11:35:43
Worried fan here...

...a lot of our best players seem incresingly anxious with many of them linked to an exit from the club. The players linked with replacing them are not inspiring massesof confidence.

Macca has said a star loan signing looks likely.... my question is why only a loan? This smacks of a lack of commitment to real investment in the club.

I know questioning the owners is a cardinal sin for many fans but there are some worrying signs/trends developing. Wage bills and contract cancellatons have certainly cost money but record sponsorship deals, continued and ever expanding merchandise sales and match day ticket sales have equally brought money in. A new stadium or expansion to Anfield seems a long way off. My question is do fans really believe the owners are here for the long term? And if not why are they here at all? Surely it can only be turn a quick profit?

I am worried and I have not been filled with confidence so far. We will all have a better idea where we stand come the end of the transfer window. Am I over reacting or do other fans share my similar sense of worry?

SMc

Yes you are over-reacting.

Just think for a moment. Who is linking these players with other clubs?
You got it, the press. Surely we all know by now that almost every thing they print is pure conjecture, they know nothing.

The first thing the owners are keen to stabalise is revenue spent on under performing/acheiving players.
Add this to debt club carried with it, and paying off managers and staff.

Players, overall are a loss no matter how you look at things, once purchased, contracts drawn up, bonus etc etc very rarely does a player actually make a profit for a club.
People say, " buy -----" his shirt sales alone will pay back his value, it just doesnt work like that.

To me,so far the signs are FSG are here for long term, as they have started to stabalise the club`s finances costing them £m`s. Next step shift any player BR does not see worth in keeping, and with exception of Gerrard, Carra, possibly Lucas and Reina is to look into the worth of the "high end" paid players. Johnson, Cole,Aquilani as the pay scale at the club still concerns the owners ( mainly thanks to Rafa ) as well as many fringe players on 1st team wages.

This is a standard business model of trimming down but still keeping operational ( in terms of targets for season to come, cups, league position wise ).
FSG are known for their performance pay strategy, giving well deserved rises/contracts to players for shown improvement.
Most players will have a price on them for sale, this does not mean we have to sell to buy, but look into a sale to see what we can replace with money received and type of contract replacement would go into IE first team "high end" pay, frist team " middle pay" or fringe "low end" pay.

It is no longer about player worth, they arent "worth" anywhere near what is paid for them, it is how the club can sustain the contract they are worth, and if they progress, contracts get re-discussed and sell on value naturally increases.

This is a sort of "stock" value to the club, they may have £135m worth of players currently, but in 5-6 years that stock may have risen or fallen depending on how we have progressed or not.But keeping the buying shrewd, and moving on players filtering the clubs money away makes sense to me.

The risk is if we dont progress on the pitch, it will be harder to attract off the pitch, which for now is our main source of income.

By the end of the transfer window i see it more of a balancing the books operation, if 5 players go, 5 will be brought in but on lower wages and tighter contracts, with sight of the incomings helping to progress on the pitch.
Piddy.

30 Jul 2012 13:15:19
How is paying our debts of, still finishing in the year in the minus', losing out when we cancel high money contracts, selling players for much less then they are worth a sign of a business that is only here for profit?
IF they where only here for profit, to achieve that, as Macca suggested, they need to make the club successful. Which is no harm really as the pre-requisit is to make us successful first.
As for a 'loan,' it worked well for spurs and they are currently above us on the pecking order and a high percentage of the time high profile loans end in permanent deals.Not always though.
As for not signing any players that inspire confidence, when have liverpool ever bought stars? Suarez may be the exception here but Torres was not exactly prolific before he joined us. Alonso, Masch, Arbeloa, Reina, Agger, SteG, Lucas, we made these players and we will do it again.
I don't mind people criticising the owners but a little thought and logic injected into these complaints makes it easier to swallow.
Davey Liver {Ed049's Note -

If what you say is true that we will operate a "balancing the books" system whereby if 5 players leave 5 others will be drafted in then how can we possibly compete. And if we are aiming for lower wages and tighter contracts then how can we convince the better players in this world to sign for us? We are already in Europe's second tier competition (and have been for a number of seasons now), if we sell our better players it certainly doesn't scream "ambitious" at any player looking to join and, ultimately, the better players will cost more.

If we operate on the '5 in 5 out' premise then that would indicate to me that the owners are looking for a net spend on players as, roughly, nought. It is impossible to compete at the top end of the table without some investment - if that is how the owners are going to operate then we will not be successful at the highest level (although with that sort of expenditure vs. income they will make a nice tidy profit).

If the owners are trimming down the club, trying to make it more "operational" as you put it surely that is another way of making money? Reducing costs, keeping or increasing revenue streams = bigger profits. I have nothing against profit but if that is put above all other things (like transfers, for example) then we are going to be in a lot of trouble.

What you say makes the owners intentions clearer but certainly doesn't inspire confidence in their willingness to invest, long term, in the club. I will be more convinced once a new stadium or a redevelopment of Anfield is begun.

SMc

They might have taken an initial loss (although no one knows how big or small that loss is including you) but there has also been some hefty sponsorships agreedwhile they have been here, Liverpool still have a massive world wide brand which is very lucrative so the suggestion that they have somehow rescued minnows and pumped in a load of money with no hope of a return is extremely wide of the mark.

The previous owners basically saddled the club with massive debts, were not in the position to pay off the interest and so got themselves into a financial mess. The current owners have serviced that debt, took control of the club, and done the messy stuff the initial part of the ownership promised to be. They are not a charity or a bunch of robin hoods, they are here to make money and they would not have bought the club if they didn't think it was possible.

The question is how much do they wish to make and how much do they actually wish to make the club into a world force again? I don't think my criticisms or worries are completely lacking in foundation and I think the blind faith many of the fans have/are putting in the owners because they bought the club off the cowboys is a little naive. When we see significant investment in players year on year (which is required to get to and remain at the very top) and a new stadium or a redevelopment of Anfield then I will start to have more faith. Until thenI remain unconvinced.

To the poster that said all these stories about transfer are idle media: The editors have also confirmed some oe these stories as well - they might not always get it right but I have been using the website for a long time and I can tell you they are on the button a lot of the time and from what I have read on here there are a good few top players looking to leave - that is not a good sign.

SMc

Loan deals for foreign players make sense.....especially with an option to buy. You can never tell whether he ll take to the PL like Zola or like schevchenko

Lets say the 5 players that leave have between them over the past 2 seasons have contributed very little in terms of apperance and progression and past peak and are on high wages, are replaced by 5 younger, hungrier and due to age on a lesser wage and can put in more appearances and ( scouting network key ) show to be able to progress it will raise the stock available for future at the club. With the exception of the "aged" players we bought in, all the new signings last year are on 5-6 year contracts.

This gives a company stability from the source that drains clubs the most, transfer spenditure.
Once in check, in 3-4 year time we could start seeing transition to 3 out 1 in or vice versa.
Lets not forget Gerrard,Carra 2 seasons max, then the 6 figure wage bracket drops away from the club.

It might sound doom and gloom but football overall leaks money everywhere, its the size of the overall appeal to the PL that has made it as big as it is. If you have a stable club still competing year in year out, in a league which will only grow more financially, then that appeal will bring the majority of players.

Football is too risky to speculate to acumulate, but this is the trend now with sheiks and oil barrons leading the way with their huge cheque books, our owners look to be taking the sensible approach and placing the foundation properly.
I feel sad if you place your faith on changes related to being shown owners have the "balls" to redevelop or build a new stadium, what is the obsession with this issue? Ok they have mentioned both and changed minds about both, that issue relates to nothing other than the profile of LFC to be shown to be progressing. Until that happens on the pitch i can bet you still wont see any more on stadium news.
Piddy.

Paddy talks a lot of sense and I just wish more fans would get the financial situation at our club. I would much rather focus on players and glory but the reality is we won't be challenging for titles unless there's a major change in the way we do business. Forget 5 in and 5 out its mo like 10 or 11 out and 5 in and a good thing too.
Kuyt,Aurelio,Maxi,Cole,Bellamy,Doni and Jones all have/had age/wages/not being a starter against them and so of course it mak sense to release them and free up wages (liabilities) this year and next year.
Players like Darby and Eccleston are not good enough and they have/may go.
It seems poor signings like Adam & Carroll will be addressed quickly and both players can move on if the right bid come in.
I'm sure we'll replace Carroll with a player who will excite the fans (IF the big man is sold that is).
Big players like Reina, Johnson, Skrtel, Agger and Suarez may choose to leave. It looks like the defenders are the most likely sal as all are at or near their peak and so this is the time to sell if they don't want to commit to the club. I think BR is prepared for the loss of one centre back and I am pretty sure Suarez will stay this year but move next summer.
Rather than look at all this negatively see it as a very necessary spring clean. Getting our finances in order will make us more competitive for the long-term. Having a bloated squad is no good to anyone. There needs to be room for our promising kids to grow. And the "tiered" salary structure is plain common sense. We have paid ridiculous sums for very average players and then paid them fortun to warm the bench or go out on loan. This summer will hopefully signal the end of us being taken for mugs. A remind of some of those stats - 8th in the table with top 4 wage bill (surely a reason to let some big players go as they haven't dragged us up but let us drift down). The highest paid keeper in the PL (in a league that contains City & Chelsea!). The height paid right-back in the PL (ditto) and two midfielders who last season we loaned out while costing us the bulk of their combined 12m a season wages !!
So once again will people stop criticising these owners for being tight. It's like blowing ten grand on a Vegas trip with the boys and going five grand overdrawn on your joint account and then blaming the missus for not buying you a nice birthday pressie!


PieInTheSkyMan

 

 

30 Jul 2012 11:32:05
replace agger with chiellini by him with the monney we get of agger

 

 

30 Jul 2012 12:01:48
When Torres left for CFC Agger gave an interview...

"It is unacceptable to play for one of Liverpool's arch rivals," he said. "For a Dane, it's about having respect for the club you play at. I am proud to be able to pull on my Liverpool jersey and will never go to another club in England. I would never go to Manchester United or Everton, for example. It's about a form of respect for the club."

Do you really see him going to Man City?

dmedly

Was about to post the same thing mate. Hope he is a man of his word. But who thought Torres would sh*t on us like he did. N don't forget how loyal Gerrard is and he almost signed for Chelsea time will tell I suppose

Redman j4t96 ynwa

If they offer him 200,000k a week, yes

Real Madrid it is then

{Ed006's Note - Man City are never out arch rivals. I have heard that City havent made a bid and are moving on to other targets so chill your beans.}

Torres also once said he would never play for another premiership club

redphil

 

 

30 Jul 2012 11:55:47
Elm to CSKA Done, Honda's Replacement?

JamieMK9

 

 

30 Jul 2012 11:31:06
Message to bale - if your not quick enough to get out the way of a Charlie Adam tackle, your not good enough! Also if citeh want agger then we want 20 mil plus AJ!

I you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge an 'Adam'!

 

 

30 Jul 2012 11:23:14
Could agger be off to barca for cash and villa on season long loan? Just a thought

Scouseme

Why? What is the logic behind that? liverpool would get absolutely nothing from such a loan. He's not among the highest earners at the club either, so it makes absolutely no sense to me...

Erik_Oslo

It makes perfect sense to me mate. If Agger did want to go to Barca and they offered us cash + Villa (on loan). And Barca offer to pay most of his wages during his loan season with us.

Makes perfect sense to me.

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96

Sorry Scouseme...didn't read your post well enough. Disregard my comment...Cheers

Erik_Oslo

So getting say 15mil and a player like villa for a season makes no sense, does selling him for just the money make more sense

No worries erik mate.

Scouseme

Thats stupid. Liverpool need players. If there will be a player + cash option. Then it will be a permant transfer. Liverpool want to built something. And for a right player there is no shortage of money. So wont be a lone in that move.

Would Villa want to come? Or is this the next PR disaster for our image with Villa rejecting the loan...

How is missing a player a PR nightmare? The impatience, ignorance and negativity of some fans is more of a nightmare in my mind.

Andy K

 

 

30 Jul 2012 11:03:16
Believe it or not but a loan deal for Alonso is in the pipeline with a view to buy. Mourinho has told Alonso he wont play very often with the arrival of Modrid. Liverpool and Alonso are keen on a deal but Liverpool don't have the financial clout this Summer to do a deal hence why it will be a loan. {Ed049's Note - They would be mad to let him go, Anyway I believe this is not happening.}

I don't believe it!

However it is interesting how Madrid would set up with Modric. I think they found the right balance last season in a 4-2-3-1

RedSG

Do you mean you believe any loan deal in general is not happening ed?

Zero {Ed049's Note - I mean I don't think Xabi Alonso will be allowed to go out on loan.}

Why would Mourinho tell one of his best players from a title-winning year he isn't going to play much? Plus, Alonso is a deep-lying playmaker, and Modric, well, isn't. The arrival of Modric will not harm Alonso's chances at Madrid. People need to accept Alonso isn't coming back.

Old high wages part of rafa era no chance hes coming back

 

 

30 Jul 2012 11:19:52
Hey Ed's do you have any idea or gut feeling on who the big star on loan could be? {Ed049's Note - No mate}

 

 

30 Jul 2012 11:13:27
The players that were fielded by Rodgers in the warmups were on display!
The likes of Aquilani, Cole, Adam, Spearing were being put in the shop window for potential transfers.
Suso, Morgan, Spearing, Shelvey and the other youngsters who got a game were all on display for potential loans.
I myself believe Shelvey had done enough to convince Rodgers to keep him as a squad player.
As much as these games are usually about fitness, clearly Rodgers was not concerned about tactics or formations, he was not directing players from the sidelines, he looked like he couldn't wait for the show(Display) to be over.
All the work is being done in training.
Once the big salaries have been cleared off the payroll he can start buying the players he needs to fit his system.
1 down - Aquilani
2 Adam, Cole next
3 Suso, Morgan, Sterling etc on loan (Although us fans believe they have what it takes, Rodgers feels they should rough it out first in the championship/premiership with other smaller teams first for at least a season.)
So to the NEGATIVE & FAITHLESS, Shut up and suck it up. This is not FOOTBALL MANAGER, Rodgers season will start in Febuary 2013.
1. When all the deadwood is shipped off
2. When he gets the team to play more attractively and therefore will be able to attract the Stars to Liverpool which the previous few managers have all scared off and are currently not interested.
3. Buy those stars in January
Till then he'll do the best he can with what he has.
Rodgers is The modern day Shankly. BELIEVE or go support s***ty & Chelski
Durban Pirates YNWA

*Suso, Morgan, Sterling(not Spearing) and other youngsters were on display for potential loans

Thank goodness for that, glad were just sorting out deals, lucky were not playing our fist competitive match this week then.

Agree with the thrust of the post, seems to make sense but I just think that its not nice to refer to our current players as deadwood, they may not be the best but they are our players and needs our support, though I must agree that some are just not good enough

Mos

Adam turns is quick as dead tree trunk, Downing is as tricky, and cole is as lifeless!

I'd hate to argue with your obvious great understanding of the transfer Market and Rodgers' intentions, but sterling can't go on loan til he is 18, so him being put on "show" is unlikely.

So were keeping spearing. Are we getting replacements for the players that leave? I don't think you've considered all the players.

 

 

30 Jul 2012 10:32:29
My feeling is if we want to be competitive next season we need to keep our best players, Agger and Skrtel are a strong defensive unit to loose one of them would not be a good signal for the squad, fans or other teams!

NS

 

 

30 Jul 2012 10:32:28
Ramirez - I have not seen him play much but from what I have seen, he is not great.

If you have not seen him play then what have you seen? He looked good to me. yesterday. Cavani didn't look interested, but does that make him a bad player?

HE said, i have not seen him play MUCH, you tool

I think what he was trying to say is "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing". If you don't know much about something it would be better to keep quiet.

Ramirez would be better than most of our squad let alone the position he plays.

 

 

30 Jul 2012 10:02:43
Hi Ed, Kaka on loan? {Ed049's Note - At the moment it looks as if he is going back to Milan.}

 

 

30 Jul 2012 09:54:17
Not a rumour based on anything but suggestion, but could this major star be David Villa on loan for a year? would work for us not paying a huge fee to have him fail, plus I'm sure something could be agreed for his wages to be part-paid for? Would give him a good year to get match fitness after serious injury?

Welsh Steve

 

 

30 Jul 2012 09:48:03
Am I the only one who finds the Bale/Adam situation slightly amusing? Some might say if Bale is injured it's simply karma in action. And for a man of Bale's character, by that I mean a liar and a diver, to label Adam a coward is ludicrous.
Daniel. YNWA.

Agree with you. If the injury was that bad why did he stay on till half time in a meaningless freindly? If someone fouls you twice is it a vendetta? Bale is a wimp.

 

 

30 Jul 2012 10:38:07
So city have offered 13m for agger...why dont they also offer 10m for messi....pure rag rubbish

 

 

30 Jul 2012 10:19:04
I see Gareth Bale is having a whinge at Charlie Adam over his tackle in the recent friendly. He has branded Adam a coward - I think he (almost literally) hasn't got a leg to stand on. Adam was slow in the tackle but that is sometimes to be expected in preseason when players are getting their fitness back. The ref had a great view, gave the foul but didn't even see it being worthy or a yellow. Bale even played the rest of the first half afterwards. I checked out a video of their previous encounter when Adam was at Blackpool, Bale got properly injured that time but I don't think Adam really even fouled him, Bale just got sandwiched between two players and was unlucky. I don't think Adam has anything to apologise about and can't see why Bale is making such a song and dance about it in the press. If he doesn't like the physical side of football he should leave the premiership and go to a less physical league or maybe even try netball.

I bet he wishes he hadn't pulled out of the GB team now.

Bob

Bale needs to be the focus of attention
He thinks that he is the best player in the world and states the reason that he dives so much is that he needs to protect himself from those out to get him

Charlie should have a wee word with Bale in the near future, then we'll see who's cowardly. What an person bale is, the most over-rated player in football history after rooney {Ed049's Note - Mate be careful with the words next time.}

 

 

30 Jul 2012 10:17:10
If city want Agger then they better stump up 30 million which around 15 of which can be spent on a replacement such as dede.

 

 

30 Jul 2012 10:06:17
Macca, Firstly this is not questioning you just the idea!
I dont understand us signing a star on loan. The only logic i can see is someone from a club who has been injured and who can afford to have a star go on loan to get their fitness back? Ie Villa. I guess it may help us get into the CL which would give us more transfer power next year.

I guess i have answered my own question but it doesnt really sit well. Whatever is best for LFC is best is for me i guess. Keep the rumours coming Macca.

Cheers Trent

You've answered your own question there, that's exactly why it would make sense. Like Adebayor was good for city onloan but not to buy, he only plays well when looking for a deal.

When we had Anelka on loan too (though should have bought him)

If we can't afford a £30 million striker then get one on loan to help get the champions league then we'll ahve the money and players willing to come

Hmm an injured player needing to regain form and fitness...too risky to buy outright but worth taking a risk upon.....Affelay? Villa? Sahin? who knows?

I genuinely don't think this loan move is going to happen. Just like dempsey and Allen haven't happened.

 

 

30 Jul 2012 10:04:42
Just booked tickets for my first game at Anfield in the Anfield Road Upper part of the ground. Has anyone ever sat there before, if yes what's the view like.

Hans

Yes I have Hans, i took the family last season v Wolves the view was great. Hope you enjoy it too. Danny

I took my 5 year old son a couple of times last year and that part of the ground is best for kids- you should get an unobstructed view

Hans sat there, our first game together ,son and myself, GREAT mate enjoy, and after that any part of the ground will do because your in ANFIELD all the Best

Muggitzo

 

 

30 Jul 2012 10:03:37
Just from what Macca has said, I'm just trying to piece together a major star player that would be surplus to any team....A player that would be let go on loan? And I can't really think of too many. I supose a player who would be in a big name team who is no longer required due to new players. Names that come to mind who would suit tika taka could include...

David Villa
Gonzalo Higuain
Carlos Tevez
Kaka
Possibly Xabi Alonso....

Any would be incredidible for us. Tevez is by far the most unlikely. My thoughts is any one of the other 4.

Ozred.

I really can't see it being Alonso - I still think he is far too important at Real, fingers crossed for Kaka or Higuain though! Wouldn't touch Tevez with a barge pole and surely Villa's injury would cast doubt over his abilities to perform up to his previous standard?

JP.

Tiki Taka football?. He plays pass and move football and pressures the opposition when he does'nt have the ball, like we did for years when we were great. He has allready stated he alters his formation and style depending on the players he has available.
Where will Kaka play if we have Gerrard? Are we going to leave lucas on the bench for Alonso? (he's old, he left, get over it). I would expect Tevez is likely if RVP goes to city, what about Ribery? they have just signed Shaquiri. If RVP goes to real (or suarez) then what about Benzema.
And how about Ronaldinhio as a right sided forward.
My point is think of the positions we need the rest is absolute guess work.

We play 3 in midfield, Einstein. Gerrard, Lucas and Alonso/Kaka would fit perfectly. Tevez isn't likely, I doubt Brendan would take such a risk. Villa is very much the most likely, though.

BthekingB

 

 

30 Jul 2012 09:48:02
Why is it when we buy players it is so hard and when other teams come in for ours we just lay down like puppies and let them walk all over us... we are a soft touch.. should take a leaf out of the Daniel Levy book on how to deal with transfers!

What are you talking about?

Sorry but torres going for 50m is far from alowing clubs to walk all over us and besides that if a player wants t go let then there is always plenty more to come in and fill the hole. If you look at how modric played compared to the season before he was no were near as good IMO. So maybe the best thing is to let the players leave or maybe I'm just talking sh**e

Redman j4t96 ynwa

 

 

30 Jul 2012 09:47:23
Eds. Is it right Agger has told Rodgers that he wants to leave Liverpool FC? Would be really sad if he wishes that :S
DanielDenmark {Ed049's Note - I don't know where these rumors have emerged from, I definitely haven't heard this myself.}

It is total BS. I believe City have shown an interest in him, that does not mean he wants a move.It was obvious from watching tour pics etc that he gets on well with BR.

Whether Agger wants to leave or not shouldn't be the issue, don't let city take us for a ride. He's an excellent defender, not quite world class but on his day not far short. Anything less than £20-22 Million (especially off them mugs) should just be ignored and he should be made to stay. Letting players go for less than their market value just because they claim to be unhappy just gives a blueprint for any other player who wants out at a reduced fee. Start showing some balls Liverpool.

David

You can get into trouble for that!

Its called Lewd conduct.

 

 

30 Jul 2012 09:47:52
Just a thought on the Major Loan Signing. Could it be that Carroll goes to AC Milan on Loan and Pato Comes to LFC on loan?

Would be a crazy deal but you never know.

What would you think eds?

Cheers,
Jordan

Pato is over-rated and injury prone.

 

 

30 Jul 2012 09:39:45
does the fact that aquaman has been gone to fiorentina mean we secured joe allen already eds?
great site! {Ed049's Note - That means nothing, we were looking to offload him anyway}

Who cares as long as we don't have to listen to people calling him AQUAMAN any more !

 

 

30 Jul 2012 09:39:39
Ed049 and Ed002 now I hope your going to behave and not start fighting over the Agger issue. A difference in opinion, but remember it's only a game. {Ed049's Note - There may be interest in him but that doesn't necessarily mean that he will be moving.}

Im starting to like EDO49!

ED049 for the win!

 

 

30 Jul 2012 09:24:28
Could one of the eds clear something up for me. Seen in the Echo and the Telegraph that Aquilani is on £125,000 per week! Is this true? I knew he was one of our biggest earners, but wouldn't that wage put him on a par with Gerrard?

RedSG {Ed002's Note - Wages are not a matter for discussion here.}

Fair enough Ed.

RedSG

First it was £80k / week.
Next it was £100k / week
Now £125k /week
Press....... say no more
Next week it will be £150k / week

The real wage is 105k per week with bonuses acording to his agency website

Hey Ed, i personally have no interest in wages and would probably skip by a post related to them, but why are wages not allowed to be part of the dicussion here? Just curious, not arguing the point.
Milamber {Ed002's Note - I think it inappropriate and misinformed. As an example folks go on about Joe Col'e wages and easily forget a significant proportion of what he earns relates to a signing on fee extrapolated across his contract.}

 

 

30 Jul 2012 09:19:54
Aqua going. Biggest waste of money in football history
Tommy

I've told you a million times, stop exaggerating.

Anderson rivals it

Winston Bogarde for the chavs a bigger waste? Redevon

Andy carrol when he leaves :D

Bebe, nuff said

 

 

30 Jul 2012 09:16:30
If the rubbish pommie press are to be believed, we will lose Suarez, Skrtel, Agger, Downing and Carroll....so 5 of last years first team regulars.

Don't see it happening.

What will happen. Very little. 2 players in, plus 1 on loan. Carroll will go out, because it's mutually beneficial. Those coming in will be functional, sensible purchases, made by Rodgers, looking to stamp himself.

We are in that phase, we remain a big name, but don't have CL football or big wages to offer, so those coming in need to believe in the 'project'.

We all need to be patient, and obtain some perspective. All will work out fine, provided we give it time.

Pommie press? The skippy rags say the same thing

cozinoz

And the kiwi chronicles?

Andy K

 

 

30 Jul 2012 09:14:41
Interesting stats from Opta about the most ambidextrous (two-footed) players in the PL.
The list of players who had the most shots with both feet (not at the same time) is topped by Rooney, then Lampard, then Van Persie. Our own Stevie G was 8th but the most surprising for me was the 4th most ambidextrous....Clint Dempsey

cozinoz

 

 

30 Jul 2012 09:08:33
I lads, I have been reading through the post,and I would like to pass on a few facts from last season,that some fans have not taken into account when voicing their opinions on Downing.(488) Liverpool had the second most shots on on goal,1 less than Chelsea. We hit the woodwork 33 times. Andy Carroll attempted the most headed shots on goal.Downing had the most shots on goal without scoring a goal.Downing created the most scoring chances for his team mates without recording a single assist.Liverpool won the most corners,they also attempted the most headed shots on goal.In my opinion Downing without being spectacular,did contribute to the team last season,and it wasn't his fault that the chances he helped make weren't taken.I felt that he did start to snatch at his own chances,but that was a confidence issue,which can be addressed.We all know that Downing wasn't worth what we paid for him,but at the same time he didn't set the price,or decide he was worth it.He's still an effective footballer, and I think if we get the right Lads in to finish the chances he makes, then some people would see him in a better light.Anyway it's just my take on Stewart Downing and stats prove that he will create goal scoring opportunities for the team.I would persevere with him,and see how it goes.

Jiminy Cricket.

I saw all those stats at the end of last season and thought the same. Downing is a very good premier league player who can run a game when he's in form and confident. He'll be much better for us this year and is going nowhere.

PieInTheSkyMan

 

 

30 Jul 2012 08:58:39
i don't know what all the surprise is about Agger. I have re-posted the info i gave you 2 weeks ago.

"14 Jul 2012 17:45:47
Man City are looking to make a bid for Daniel Agger and are willing to swop Joleon Lescott plus cash. I don't see B.R. being interested, but my dad just been in Manchester and this is what the city fans are talking about. Have you heard anything about this eds?
vrcomp
Y.N.W.A. {Ed002's Note - Nope.}"

Do a search if you don't believe me!!!
And next time someone leave's a rumour don't pull them down just because you don't like what you read.

vrcomp
Y.N.W.A.{Ed002's Note - And that statement is still correct. You are simply another jerk trying to have a dig at the Editors. There is interest in Agger and there has been all summer - but I know absolutely nothing of an exchange of Agger for Lescott and cash.}

So your passing a rumour off as your own.what do u actual wont?a gold medal

ste

If Aguero or Mata end up at Liverpool in a few years, expect a few people to pull out their old posts and say 'I told u so'

cozinoz

I posted back in 1977 that Dalglish would replace Keegan. You all said I was wrong but it happened. (Ed I have used the search function but cant find my original post from 77. It was back when the internet was made of wood...perhaps you can find it in the archive?)
Cheers
ITK {Ed049's Note - haha I do remember seeing that post.}

No need to call him a jerk ed, sometimes your much ruder than necessary

Siggle {Ed002's Note - What was the point of his post then. He said something - asked if I had heard of it and I answered it with a pleasant "nope" (no "no, you evil DF"). And then he decides to start grizzling and I still know nothing of this cash and Lescott deal? And for some reason you have to get out from under your stone and start sucking from the same teat.}

 

 

30 Jul 2012 08:48:54
Apparently Liverpool have shown interest in a 20 year old Australian keeper called Mat Ryan. He's currently training with Spurs, but West Brom and Liverpool are also interested. Obviously not a star signing, but he is a brilliant young keeper and would be a great pickup for us.

 

 

30 Jul 2012 08:45:57
Ill be absolutely gutted if Agger goes the best CB in the premiership, didn't he say a few weeks ago he wanted to make 200 more aperances for Liverpool?

Square tomato

Personally I don't see him going to another Premiership club.

Should Real Madrid or Barcelona come in for him though, we may struggle

RedSG

Real Madrid.
Don't sell your best players to rivals. Send them abroad.

 

 

30 Jul 2012 08:45:27
At the moment it looks painful with no 'big' names expecting to join, but we are bleeding money and paying the cost for average players on high wages.

The owners and Rodgers are doing the right thing to purge the club of average high-earners. It may take another season, but I believe our club will become more sustainable and be able to pay for quality players. Singred

 

 

30 Jul 2012 08:33:48
I have it on good authority that the 'major star' signing on loan will be Ursa Major of LA Galaxy.

He doesn't fit the young and hungry profile but he is bright and powerful and Rodgers thinks he will light up Anfield.

Iggle Piggle

That would be out of this world

Fans will be over the moon with this signing.

What a "Star" signing that will be!

YNWA jns

I had to google this before I understood the joke. Very well played.

KingHeskey

Best post for months.

Not too 'bright' are you Heskey?...i'll get me coat

I heard he was going to NY Cosmos

This to me seems like a constellation prize

 

 

30 Jul 2012 08:33:12
If city want agger that bad then a straight swap for Richards would do nicely

Agger is better than richards, he is one of the best ball playing central defenders around, he is going nowhere

Don't you mean 'attacking cb'? :) Don't see Dagger leaving myself, perhaps to Barca - he's bought into LFC. Richards is half the footballer, and Rodgers wants footballers (not players) in his team.

Richards is an awful defender and a swap for agger is laughable

Agger will leave for how much it will take to buy a similar replacement,reading through the Web that would be Amorebieta.Time will tell how much City want him.

 

 

30 Jul 2012 08:29:31
Hey ed's! Do you expect any deals both ins and outs to be completed this week?! Cheers, Scouserseb {Ed002's Note - Yes.}

 

 

30 Jul 2012 08:26:27
I'm just guessing, but wouldn't it make more sense if the star on loan would be a forward, I'd think David Villa or Tevez, both would be great! Exciting times!

HK

 

 

30 Jul 2012 08:20:08
Loan offer for a major star? David Beckham? Messi? Ronaldo? Torres? Kaka? Neymar? Im intruged who it could be

Torres is no longer a major star.

David Beckham a major star?

Neymar? makes perfect sense for Santos to loan him, as he is 20 years old and worth 50mil

 

 

30 Jul 2012 08:05:44
Finally aqaulani is off , got to go down as one of the worst signings in our clubs history. In regards as value for money.

As for signings if a CB leaves then that money can be used to buy another.

If Allen comes in then id expect Adam to go.

If ramirez comes in then maybe Cole to leave.

If we sold carroll maybe David villa could be an option.
High wages but with not having to pay a fee it shouldn't be a problem. He could get us back into the champs league then we can buy a younger version.

If we did the above we will have only spent around 10mil and trimmed the wage bill. Happy days....

LAVERS

 

 

30 Jul 2012 07:34:30
Hi eds,

Do you really think Agger could be sold as he is one of my my fave player's and would hate to see him leave.

Red raj {Ed002's Note - I certainly do.}

If im honest i agree with ed002,he will go if its his choice,if we get 15-18 mil id be happy,last season was his 1st without major time out! hes injury prone! not saying i want him to go but could be a good idea to cash in due to his injury history!

swedish adam

Skrtel for 20m and Agger for 15? You must be joking mate.
PakiRed.

 

 

30 Jul 2012 06:08:47
Talks***e now saying man-city want agger , have u heard anything eds or is it there usual bs , thanks .....Steve {Ed002's Note - There is nothing new in this - it has been goining on for weeks.}

 

 

30 Jul 2012 05:36:53
Hi eds, really addictive site this. I would just like to know your opinions on any player arriving from the La Liga this window... who do think are the most likely?

Cheers

Gogol {Ed002's Note - Amorebieta.}

 

 

30 Jul 2012 04:33:32
ED, how many scouts do liverpool officially have on the books?

2xboo {Ed002's Note - I don't know an exact number but it will be quite a few.}

 

 

30 Jul 2012 03:38:38
If we get Alonso or Kaka on loan, we will surely place in the top 4!

Absolutely zero chance of Alonso on loan!

sjb76

So We will be dropping Lucas and Gerrard to the bech then? because they play them positions.

 

 

30 Jul 2012 01:48:01
So aquamans agent says he isn't moving the BBC say he is one of themselves lying.
Meanwhile Newcastle are yet to make a bid for andy Carroll.
Joe Allen is a done deal as no one else wants him and the clause says that no one of less than top 4 quality can have him other than Liverpool or some such guff.
It remains to be seen whether Liverpool can still attract the big boys.
Bellamy is playing great and would walk back into the Liverpool side as our second best goal threat behind Suarez, I hope brendan doesn't do anything rash and move bellers on because despite his twilight status he's proven consistent and not a flounderer when Liverpool need goals and points.

 

 

30 Jul 2012 02:05:12
Barca eye agger as Liverpool look into the availability of injured squad player afellay

 

 

30 Jul 2012 01:45:31
Maybe Nuri Sahin is the loan target?

 

 

30 Jul 2012 01:32:07
BBC reporting that we have accepted a bid for Aquilani for Fiorentina -Making space for Allen.

 

 

30 Jul 2012 01:32:03
47 entries so far(nice one) to the guess the loan star comp,
lots going for kaka but a few interesting ones late in the day punting for afellay, which in hindsight makes sense and i wish i had gone for him now rather the sahin, thanks to dub red for the voucher offer and ed002 for pelican comment.up the deise.

red jay

 

 

30 Jul 2012 01:31:22
It will be Lucas Moura giving creedence to whomever that guy was that kept saying expect a big signing from Brazil. The loan move to Liverpool was given the go ahead as a direct afront to the manc's representatives in Brazil. The conflict that caused this turn of events was found to be because of the manc's rep' repeatidly speaking English really slowly and increasing loudly and expecting to be understood by the Sao Paulo contingent. The final straw came when red nose himself took the time to fly to Brazil to help the stalling negotiotians because he is fluent in Spainish.

Coley

Brazillians speak Portuguese NOT Spanish !!!!!!

Yeah I know why else would they be upset? Maybe I was not sarcastic enough.

Coley

 

 

30 Jul 2012 01:26:13
Why are all these Kaka rumours starting to heat up, stop dreaming guys, we'd never pay the wages he's on.

The Rectangle

True
But we may pay half....

Madrid could pay 50% of his wages and still save a bucketful.

 

 

30 Jul 2012 01:25:49
Aqualani has completed his move to Fiorentina according the the BBC

 

 

30 Jul 2012 01:23:55
If City bought lescott who is very average, for £24million then surely agger is worth £50million because without doubt he is world class and miles better than lescott.

What do you think Ed?

Cheers

Sam {Ed002's Note - Another irrelevant comparison.}

Why is that a irrelevant comparison? They play in exactly the same position. {Ed002's Note - The amount paid by one club fora player has no impact at all on another player's value.}

 

 

30 Jul 2012 01:12:05
Liverpool accept Alberto Aquilani offer from Fiorentina

Liverpool have accepted an undisclosed offer from Fiorentina for Italian midfielder Alberto Aquilani.
The 28-year-old has flown to Italy from the Reds' pre-season tour of the United States to complete his move.
Liverpool are likely to step up their attempts to sign Swansea's Joe Allen if the deal proceeds as expected.
Aquilani has failed to settle at Anfield since signing in 2009 for £20m from Roma and has been on loan for the last two seasons.
His stints at AC Milan last term and Juventus in the 2010-11 season mean he did not play for former Reds' managers Kenny Dalglish and only made two appearances for Roy Hodgson.
And despite having two years left on his contract and completing pre-season under new boss Brendan Rodgers, it appears that his time at Liverpool is coming to a conclusion.
Rafael Benitez brought Aquilani to Anfield as a replacement for Xabi Alonso, but he struggled with injury and made 26 appearances in his first season.

bbc sport

 

 

30 Jul 2012 01:12:02
Bbc reporting that we have accepted Fiorentina's offer for Aquilani; he's on his way over from the US to negotiate terms

 

 

30 Jul 2012 00:49:12
best of all the information I have is that the most possible signings currently are . Allen. Ramirez. Vargas. Which I would be happy with.

Spearing. Adam. Cole. Aquilani. And unfortunately Carrol to leave.

Personally don't have any inside info on Maccas info about the loan, but BR did say a big signing, so if we need goals and a confident finisher, who is likely to come on loan and can play BR style of football, I would say its VILLA!

On another note I think shelvey has been very good preseason, with the signings above and some youngsters playing a bigger part. Fingers crossed!
redJay

This is such a bs comment no offense. "All the info I have", where is this info coming from?

Your talking complete bunkum Jay because threres not a football team on this planet that will pay Joe Cole what hes on now and also hes still owed money from us so why would any club entertain a mediocre footballer on astronomical wages and I doubt he will take a pay cut. Vargas has a throid issue and if I know that im sure the doctors at liverpool will find out.Ramires will only come if Man City dont get involved and from what I gather they will in the next few days. Spurs are also very interested and they have Arab oil money to spend real soon. Allen will come if we sell Aqualani and if we can negotiate a lesser fee than the 15 million they have quoted, from my understanding they want Shelvey and Flannagan (loans) as part of the deal Miami_Red

To the last person who commented "you're understanding" regarding swansea wanting shelvey and flanagan on loan? You do realise prem teams can only loan 1 player from another prem team at any one time? Thanks for the BS :)

 

 

30 Jul 2012 00:42:29
I really wish i had took time to read the banter page before posting my of hope of David Villa

Seem it has been done to death lol
Apologies Eds

K-Man

 

 

30 Jul 2012 00:17:34
Liverpool have accepted an undisclosed fee for Aquilani from Fiorentina. Yay he's finally off.
KiwiRed

 

 

30 Jul 2012 00:12:27
BBC reporting Liverpool have accepted an undisclosed Fee for aquilani

 

 

30 Jul 2012 00:11:12
Possible loan signing? Kaka maybe ;))

 

 

30 Jul 2012 00:09:13
Iker Munian showed tonight that he is going to be a world superstar one day.

 

 

30 Jul 2012 00:08:32
goodbye aqualani...

Lock the door on your way out

Then he would have a key we dont want that just keep moving il lock it...YA WASTER

 

 

30 Jul 2012 00:06:07
Apprently City made a big of £13m for Agger last week which was rufused, but might have turned Agger's head.
I don't believe it myself but just a rumour.
DaveH

How much did they pay for Lescott? Wasn't it about GBP20 mil. Agger is twice the player Lescott is, they need to double that offer and chuck in some other incentives. The best central defender in the premiership with the ball at his feet.

ChrisE

13 million are they having a laugh or are you?? 25-30 million should do it but for skyrtel thankyou very much. RedTurk

Double £20 million! Love Agger and he won't leave...but £40 million! lol
I'd kick him out! :)
gareth

 

 

29 Jul 2012 23:59:30
It would make sense if the loan player were Affelay...
He has been injured, is available for transfer and the risk to Liverpool would be reduced by a loan deal rather than a full on transfer at this stage.

 

 

29 Jul 2012 23:58:14
City have bid £13 million for Agger, now even with his injury record he's been pretty solid on that front for a good time now.

His quality is for all to see he's in my opinion one of the best center backs in the league if not world football.

City can spend ridiculous amounts of money on players but bid £13 million for Agger ? They're a joke.

Hope he stays and city can keep their hands off.

64_bit_hero

 

 

29 Jul 2012 23:57:40
bbc reporting fiorentina agreed fee for aqua.

 

 

29 Jul 2012 23:55:06
According to the daily mirror agger wants out .apparently 13million has been offered and we have rejected it. He has options from arsenal or Spanish clubs. But city want him and think they can get him to stay in premiership

Daily mirror ? enough said, as bad as the manc loving daily mail, toilet paper

According to all the papers, all our players want to leave and later they all want to stay and fight for their places. which means its all b*llsh*t.
If you want an accurate and 100% guaranteed media source, try the Liverpool website - not been wrong yet.

cozinoz

20m or nothing

Well said cozinoz, but people on here believe the anti liverpool drivel in the sun, mirror and mail. it was skrtel, now agger, who next, johnson ? enrique ? . maybe they are working the way through the team to add even more media negativity

 

 

29 Jul 2012 23:43:11
my guess ,not a very educated one is that the loanee we may be looking at is a real madrid player.who?who knows.im just speculating .what dya reckon eds.jonny m

Stunning insight, jonny

 

 

29 Jul 2012 23:39:13
City bid £13m for agger

 

 

29 Jul 2012 23:38:40
Liverpool have accepted a bid for aquanani(spelling)
From fiorentina in the region of 7m
BBC sport
Cheers bobcat

 

 

29 Jul 2012 23:30:11
Just see that Liverpool are talking to the 'new neymar' not that neymar is old! Heard anything?

Isn't Spearing the new Neymar? He plays football with some Brazilians

 

 

29 Jul 2012 23:29:41
Mirror say Agger has told Rodgers he wants to leave. Say Man City have already had a £13m bid rejected. Barca and Real both interested.

Trini_red

Tell them to come back with £25-30 million and they can have him, thanks. RedTurk

 

 

29 Jul 2012 23:27:39
Any truth in Brad Jones leaving to join Norwich?

 

 

29 Jul 2012 23:26:03
Ed is it true we rejected a bid for agger from man city last week?
Cheers

 

 

29 Jul 2012 23:23:38
Is it true that Agger's told Rodgers he wants to leave eds?

Don't believe a word you read, especially from that trashy paper

 

 

29 Jul 2012 23:23:20
Look if we do bring in a big name on loan it is unlikely he is going to come to sit on the bench is it not.
So if we have Lucas and we sign Allen then why would Alonso come?
If we have gerrard why would Kaka come.
It suggests a forward or wide player.

Because playing alongside your international team mate Lucas and a player of Gerrard's ability makes sense......

 

 

29 Jul 2012 23:21:25
Any reason why Agger has not played so far. Is it anything to do with fact that City have bid for him?

Played against Roma! BiGmIkE

 

 

29 Jul 2012 23:18:27
and if not pedro or villa from barca,then its adebayor from s***ty

tom1975

Adebayor is not a major star

 

 

29 Jul 2012 23:13:27
Personally think that the loan player maybe David Villa? Maybe wishful thinking!?

 

 

29 Jul 2012 23:11:45
Hi eds, do you know what the situation with Suso is. One year left on his contract and he tweeted his annoyance that he's back with the reserves after returning from the US. Reckon he'll stay or could he be on his way out soon?

 

 

29 Jul 2012 23:06:42
Great site Any rumours on pepe reina?

 

 

29 Jul 2012 23:05:30
tom1975

def pedro as barca will sign neymar

 

 

29 Jul 2012 23:02:52
Agger linked to man city and barcelona again today?

 

 

29 Jul 2012 21:55:21
This is not MOTD fever eds, but are we still interested in Sturridge? Or what's the situation with him?

LFCBilly {Ed002's Note - Liverpool have never spoken with Chelsea about Sturridge.}

 

 

29 Jul 2012 21:47:08
Eds could the player be either pedro/affellay/villa//higuain/tello/ who would be most likely to be loaned im not goin with a midfeilder cause we've got so many midfeilders I'm goin with these players

Tello please

 

 

29 Jul 2012 23:02:21
Aquilani on his way out of Anfield after being told he's free to find himself another club. Flew to Rome direct from Baltimore yesterday.

James Pearce - Echo

 

 

29 Jul 2012 22:58:47
my loan star guess is pedro barcelona


tom11975

Spot on. RedTurk

 

 

29 Jul 2012 22:57:19
Even winning FA Cup would not have saved Kenny Dalglish's job says Liverpool FC owner John Henry

LIFTING the FA Cup would not have spared Kenny Dalglish the sack, according to Liverpool owner John W Henry.

Dalglish led the Reds to victory in the Carling Cup last season before losing to Chelsea in the FA Cup final but it was their league form that ultimately cost the Anfield legend his job.

He was dismissed four days after Liverpool finished the Premier League season in eighth place, their worst finish for 18 years.

But Henry, frontman of Reds owners Fenway Sports Group, says another trophy would not have saved the 61-year-old Scot.

"The FA Cup would not have made any difference had he won it," Henry said. "For us we were 17th over the second half of the season and Liverpool should not be in that position.

"I don't place the blame on Kenny and assistant Steve Clarke but I think it was obvious to every fan that something was wrong and something needed to be done."

Henry admits that Dalglish, who was in the role for 18 months after succeeding current England manager Roy Hodgson, was only ever going to be a short-term appointment.

He added: "When I first discussed making a change before he took the job, we danced around it and discussed what role he would take at some point.

"He did say that if it was the manager's job, he would only do it until we had the right young man to come in for the long term. We spoke two or three times before he actually took the job.

"Kenny was always saying no one man is bigger than the club. Everyone knows what it meant when he came back, how he did right the ship and brought all the disparate elements back together.

"There were a lot of different directions and he unified the club internally and externally – he did an incredible job of getting us all on the same page."

Sorry FSG, you are not fit to clean Kenny's boots.

77 Sunset Strip

He's our best player and one of our greatest managers (the first time around), but the fact is he failed when he came back. 8th place and terrible signings speak for themselves. Henderson will most likely be a success, however.

Its a sad day when "fans" think FSG is greater than the legacy of Kenny.

Just shows how far we have fallen.

FSG own the club, and last season was unacceptable. Kenny will always be King, but it was time to move on. Rodgers is the new King now, get behind him or get lost. That doesn't diminish Kenny's legacy in any way. He's still the number one Liverpool hero. Ulsterpool

There was one or two health problems that Kenny himself pointed out to the owners. Kenny was not surprised at leaving.

 

 

29 Jul 2012 22:52:39
Ramirez 14m and gaitan 14m in. Aqulani back to Italy 7m. Carroll 17.5 m out. Also Liverpool hoping to get callijon on loan from Real Madrid.

If we get them both for 14 million each i would say who ever is negotiating is a genius but when was the last time lfc bought quality foriegn players, apart from suarez recent? We now go for super ' british talent'! Why pay less when you get ripped off and pay 20-30 mil for players that can hardly get into there national teams. RedTurk

 

 

29 Jul 2012 22:51:41
Hey Eds! Great work on the site. Ben Smith of the BBC claims Aquilani is negotiating a deal with Fiorentina for a fee in the region of seven million pounds. This could pave the way for Joe Allen signing from Swansea. Kop King

 

 

29 Jul 2012 22:45:59
aqualani to fiorentina no certainty his agent claims hes happy at liverpool

 

 

29 Jul 2012 22:21:25

Hi all
Have a Togolese friend who is a doctor near Manchester. He said that Liverpool will be getting Adebayor. Loan with view to permanent deal. I told him that sounded like a load of balls. But he suggested the Togolese community is quite close knit.
Any chance of this?
Cheers WEA

If your source is so sure, why are you asking here?

That's good of Adebayor to take a 75% wage cut to join us. No chance otherwise

cozinoz

Because as I said. I thought it sounded like garbage and was looking to see if any other person or editor had heard like wise. But thanks for the helpful feedback.
WEA

 

 

29 Jul 2012 21:56:53
Team C B playing well hope Craig can keep that form for Liverpool head and shoulders above all the others.
Nice chip finish from sturridge too.
Old man giggs making the rest of team gb Other than bellers look poor.

 

 

29 Jul 2012 21:53:49
Is there a chance we could be getting either Tevez or Adebuyor on loan? are either available?

 

 

29 Jul 2012 21:41:11
Just watched Muniain against Honduras, very fortunate to be on the field at the end of 90 minutes, could have seen red on 2 occasions. We don't need another hothead at Anfield

 

 

29 Jul 2012 21:36:51
"Let's not open up a soap opera, please," agent Franco Zavaglia told Radio Sportiva. "Aquilani is a Liverpool player and he is happy where he is now.

"We have not received any requests from [Fiorentina sporting director] Daniele Prade, but that was only to be expected, seeing as Aquilani will only leave on a permanent move and at figures Fiorentina cannot afford.

"I would rule out a current return to Italy. At the moment Alberto is relaxed and on Tuesday he'll attend pre-season training with Liverpool, as planned."

Earlier this week, Aquilani said he believes he will have an opportunity to rescue his ailing Liverpool career under Rodgers.

"I had a very good talk with Brendan where we were able to share our thoughts and it was a very positive chat," he explained. "I like his footballing philosophy and I like the mentality he has because it matches my own skills.

 

 

 
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