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30 Nov 2015 22:50:29
Goal from Sinclair tonight. Still can't see I'm playing or even making the bench for Wednesday.
Tex will definitely be playing though!
01 Dec 2015 07:42:30
Don't lose hope Natural, If you keep practising you can still make it.
30 Nov 2015 20:50:00
Why have we spent so much on agents fees? Soft touch?
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30 Nov 2015 22:38:02
You have to put it down to those doing the negotiating.
Not being a regular in the knockout stages of the Champions league and not winning trophies makes us a less attractive option for players. I imagine, to get the deals over the line, agents are given more generous terms.
30 Nov 2015 23:10:46
Probably due to the fact that Ron's friend Brendan thought it wise to sign 879 players in 2 years.
01 Dec 2015 00:05:35
How much of that total went to Sterling's agent?
30 Nov 2015 23:43:27
Essexred's in mid season form already.
01 Dec 2015 08:05:57
Essexred does have a point though - we obviously paid too much several times, but the volume of players bought does have a part to play.
01 Dec 2015 02:48:19
City would have paid Sterling's agent, not us. I imagine a big chunk of it went to Mino with the remainder being scattered amongst the other 878 Essexred mentioned. Turns out buying gobs of players means paying gobs of agents.
01 Dec 2015 06:34:04
Ed002 would know the real reasons.
{Ed002's Note - These fees do not include any payments related to the sales of Sterling etc. nor any fees related to the likes of Balotelli. They relate to Liverpool paying significantly over the odds for players like Firmino. There is nothing new here - and it is something that has been explained repeatedly to the Liverpool supporters.}
30 Nov 2015 19:36:50
I thought with Coutinho being out Teixeira might get a look in especially when considering he played well in the cup game. I really hope going forward he will get a few chances as some of the players ahead of him (Milner and Lallana) aren't exactly pulling up trees at the moment. The kid has serious talent and it would be great if he got more opportunities to show it.
30 Nov 2015 20:39:14
I agree, I like Tex.
01 Dec 2015 00:19:44
I like him too, one of my fav in fifa manager mode. Eventhough on minimal wage, n quite low stats, he scored 4-5 goals for me last season ;)
01 Dec 2015 00:45:15
He plays like James Rodriguez.
01 Dec 2015 04:11:46
Against Swansea, I would have like to have seen a reprisal of our Bournemouth lineup, which arguably would have created more chances with the high press.
With Tex on the left, Firmino in the no. 10, and Ibe on the right, we ran rampant on Bournemouth. Firmino and Tex had a clear understanding, much like Coutinho and Firmino, with Tex using creativity movement to link up with Firmino. Ibe and Firmino also were great.
Benteke sort of ruins such a fluid attack. He normally stands and when his hold up play, is mainly done with his back to the net. He simply doesn't ever turn and run with the ball (he mainly flicks a pass back, and waits for a cross into the box) .
Moreover, with Benteke in our Starting XI, we shift our formation to accommodate him, which leads to a less effective attack.
Against Swansea, Firmino was played out wide, which wastes his own creativity running and passing, which is best centrally. It also had Lallana at no.10, who was largely ineffective. Ibe was isolated on the right, without a no9 or no10 to partner with.
While Origi doesn't have Benteke's powerful strikes, he's better at turning with the ball, and keeping up with a fluid and moving attack.
I'd love to see Firmino as a false 9, Coutinho no 10, Tex on the left wing and Ibe on the right.
30 Nov 2015 19:05:50
Ed002 I see SG is indeed training with the first team. What do you make of that? I find it strange LFC would do that given the likely ramifications aside from possible disruptive nature of him training with the first team? Bad move by Klopp? Or does he know better?
{Ed002's Note - I think it is a major mistake by the club - he will be a distraction and disruptive to any tactical training.}
30 Nov 2015 19:27:55
I tend to agree with you Ed002. I just hope that Klopp knows something we don't. I find it more perplexing that they are risking the sanctions you previously referred to for what seems like nothing positive for the club?
{Ed002's Note - They would only come if he registered as a player - otherwise the FA have no authority over him.}
30 Nov 2015 20:04:37
Maybe Klopp has drafted Gerrard in to teach these lot how to take a corner? Because since he left we haven't kicked the ball from out of the little semi circle at the bottom of the flag.
30 Nov 2015 20:40:26
Never saw Gerrard take a good corner tbh.
Always hit the first defender without fail.
30 Nov 2015 20:51:15
How long will he be here?
30 Nov 2015 20:56:08
Really can't understand why Gerrard is allowed to train with our first team.
What happens when his stint in the MLS is over. Will he be hanging around our team constantly.
I agree with Ed002.major mistake!
30 Nov 2015 21:16:19
I don't think it's that big a deal. Surely it's more of a fitness thing for him and he'd like to see how Klopp works. I doubt Klopp would allow it to become a distraction and I'd imagine he wouldn't be an issue tactically as it's not as if suddenly he'd be the focus of what they're doing training wise?
Let's not forget his stature in the club over the past decade or more, however some may view him on here.
30 Nov 2015 20:46:48
I actually don't think Gerrard training is all that big of a deal, so long as there is no inkling he's being considered for playing time.
30 Nov 2015 22:10:53
During the training sessions those players need 100% focus and concentration on trying to better learn the tactics klopp needs, and to push their fitness harder.
Any distractions whatsoever will reduce their learning from the sessions, and reduce their effectiveness and their fitness levels when they go up against saints.
Everyone respects stevie's great dedication and his contribution to this club over his career, but no-one should other than players should join those sessions. No good can come of it.
We all know what its like when an old workmate comes back after months of absence. Its impossible not to want to talk about things that have happened to both of you, and on the morning they return you don't get your normal amount or quality of work done. Its just human nature.
The man is a legend and always will be in my eyes, but the squad are fighting desperately for a CL place against highly motivated, top quality opponents who are well led and well organised by great professionals, and if they give less than 100% we will not win.
He has no place on that training pitch during a working season, unless it is specifically to watch and learn coaching methods.
I just think that no good will come of it, and I hope its not a regular thing.
30 Nov 2015 22:14:27
Bloody hell he's only keeping fit get a grip.
30 Nov 2015 22:40:20
After 3, let's all cry together?
Grow up man, bunch of babies in here. Good to see him back.
30 Nov 2015 23:06:42
This is 100% not an issue at all. In Klopp we trust!
30 Nov 2015 23:13:03
He will be doing the fitness sessions and probably some of the ball work. He won't be doing the natch prep.
30 Nov 2015 22:36:02
Having a guy like stevie around is only good for the club, amazing that some start banging on about his corner taking when the guy adores the club maybe take a minute to look through vidoes, bought me some amazing times as a liverpool supporter, never have a bad word to say about him.
30 Nov 2015 23:42:27
Pretty sure the pics released were only warm up drills, maybe once the proper tactical stuff comes in they will separate.
01 Dec 2015 00:11:30
I don't likeSG coming in at all but Klopp knows best and this would never have happened if Klopp did not sign off on it so, I'll trust his judgement. As for those saying that people or players never had a bad word to say about him, they need to do a bit more research or listen to Ed01 when he talks about SG.
01 Dec 2015 00:39:19
Cannot believe the stick SG gets on here. Contrary to other opinions on here we are in transition, we have employed a good manager but we are far away from being a team capable of challenging for the top 4. Steven Gerrard has given us some of the best memories over the last 20-30 years, if he wants to train and learn from our manager why is that so bad. First time post, after reading for nearly 5 years. Shame on you reds fans, how quickly you all forget.
01 Dec 2015 00:47:26
If its just keeping fit why can't he train with the under21s?
01 Dec 2015 01:23:46
The manager decided he could train at Melwood. You either trust the manager or you don't - end of story really.
30 Nov 2015 23:17:41
Ed001 what's your take on this if you have a moment please? i'm hoping he is just there to get fit and will keep his head down but is that his character to do that?
{Ed001's Note - that is all it is, he is just keeping in shape over the MLS close season.}
01 Dec 2015 04:58:10
Can't have him dishing out the game plan every match day. He basically has to act like a Liverpool player while training and keep everything bar his experience in-house.
01 Dec 2015 06:25:19
I feel it should not be a big deal. Gerrard and Klopp both want what is good for the club. Klopp will accommodate Gerrard as long as he feels that there is no negative impact.
P. S Gerrard wants to return to the club at some point so why will he do anything to jeopardize it.
Iam with Klopp on this one. You are always welcome Stevie!
01 Dec 2015 07:27:36
He is already distracting the fans, what's to say the players are not asking the same questions we are? Seeking mentorship and leadership from him as opposed to the captain and his vice?
01 Dec 2015 13:19:00
Long time reader first time poster. I have to say some of you need to get some perspective. SG being back at the club can ONLY be positive for Liverpool. I can hardly believe I’m having to explain this. Disruptive? Maybe for an hour or two while people say hello, but these are professionals, they know what needs to be done. Can you imagine the youngsters at the club, seeing their idol everyday? Getting to talk to him, SG giving out advice and building confidence of these players. Did any of you read his first book? How much help he needed from the likes of Mcmanaman, Redknapp and Fowler? Knowing know to respect the club and other players? You don’t think he can help anyone at the academy with these things and how to become as good as he was? Melwood is his 2nd home, it’s where he’s always belonged. This might come across as fanciful, but these players are human beings, with issues, confidence problems and private issues like the rest of us. Of course SG being at Liverpool is a good thing. He’s is one of our greatest players. Get a grip.
01 Dec 2015 17:18:01
And yet Ed002 blasts us for keeping Shankly away from the team after he'd left the club. Let's just leave Gerrard in the dumpster out back, what a great way to treat a legend. Hypocrisy at it's finest right there.
30 Nov 2015 15:55:29
Good Leaders lead individuals not teams. Klop has shown he is a truly good leader, as each and everyone has shown significant improvement under him. And from all indications he is not a buy for buying sake kind of coach, rather one who believes in actually coaching as opposed to project managing super-stars.
Don't get me wrong i am all for buying the latest, but let's not forget that football is a business, more of a passion, but a business still and ROI is key.
That aside, i see us competing on all fronts and discovering new super-stars along the way.
30 Nov 2015 18:19:38
Why is the Republic Of Ireland key.
30 Nov 2015 18:26:24
Unless you are being sarcastic I think he means Return On Investment.
01 Dec 2015 00:12:03
Spot on, xpertoyin!
30 Nov 2015 15:46:16
Hi Eds, just like to know when a new manager like klopp goes to new club, does he make changes to the scouting network? Or he will use the same scouting infrastructure but give them new requirements?
{Ed002's Note - He is not responsible for the scouts. He will ask them to look at specific players.}
30 Nov 2015 17:26:15
There's nothing wrong with our scouts, there was something wrong with the previous Manager.
30 Nov 2015 15:41:51
Those slating yesterday's performance should remember that no premier league winning team puts in a great performance every game. They all have their dips and it is clawing points from these games that sometimes makes the difference. I'll take an ugly 3 points every game from now until end of season.
01 Dec 2015 00:21:44
People need to stop being cocky. There was a time we weren't sure we would get a point vs Norwich or Villa at home and their starting to get all sassy because we won ugly after a Thursday game in the EL, vs a team who parked the bus the whole game. Before we can do what we want to teams at home, we must do what we have to do which is WIN, period. We did it so enjoy the three points and get over yourselves.
01 Dec 2015 00:22:28
Yesterday was a horrid game played in atrocious wind. We did the job, were the better team and got the three points.
30 Nov 2015 15:23:59
Question for the eds. just moved to Singapore and there are some big kids Soccer clubs with affiliations to PL sides (notably a big Arsenal kids setup)
How many teams do this around the world? Are they doing it to grow support base or to also try generate talent? Or are they just making money through franchising?
Does Liverpool do this anywhere? I'd love to send my kids to one, unfortunately they seem to be learning to like Arsenal a bit too much for my liking :)
{Ed002's Note - All "major" sides do it at various places in the world - Barcelona also have one in Singapore. Bayern Munich in India and Dubai; Liverpool, Manchester United, Arsenal, Manchester City and Chelsea have several. From memory Jakarta and South Africa are hosts to Liverpool and next up is Dubai.}
30 Nov 2015 15:39:43
Seriously generating of talents from south east asia will very very gradual process as oppose from africa.
30 Nov 2015 18:14:31
None of these "international football academies" setup by these clubs will have the primary motivation to scout young talents, and whether they are in Africa, south east, west or central asia, kids won't be going to play for the parent academy unless in exceptional cases. The objective will be to develope talent for the concerned countries.
01 Dec 2015 01:52:56
Scouting response seems consistent with the quality of play I've seen so far (including my own)!
Does seem to generate a lot of buy-in from the youngsters though. Probably doing a lot for the brand name with 100's of your kids now associating themselves with the Arsenal name.
30 Nov 2015 14:53:11
I seem to remember some people saying on here something like, once we get all the tough away games out of the way, and are still in the running we have a chance. Well we have, and we are. I for one am too scared to even think about the title, but city are dropping points, Arsenal are plagued with injuries, Chelsea have started poorly, United are struggling to score, it is there for the taking.
30 Nov 2015 16:06:22
I agree pal we have the worst fixtures out the way and yes they can come to anfield and turn us over but like I said they have to come to anfield and I'm sure the kop will make it as hard as possible for them to come and run the show. we don't think of the title this early nor should we but it is there for the taking this season and we have every right with the other contenders to think we could win it because teams are starting to fear us once again.
30 Nov 2015 17:29:45
Well the KOP will need to support the team much better than it has so far this season, apart from a few hundred at the rear who try and support our team throughout the 90 minutes the noise from the KOP is desperately quiet.
I hate to say it but it's quite embarrassing when opposition fans quite rightly question are famous atmosphere, I used to pride myself in being part of the intimidating atmosphere we once had.
30 Nov 2015 14:50:38
Afternoon Eds - Hearing loads of rumours regarding possible INs but what about the outs? Does it look like we will be offloading much in January?
{Ed002's Note - Many people here keep telling me about the 'done deals' for Pato, Reus, Hummels, ter Stegen, Gundogen and Xhaki. I guess there must be people leaving as well.}
01 Dec 2015 06:39:28
ED 002
To afford those players and to keep anywhere near FFP, I'm guessing we are selling the whole first team squad?
30 Nov 2015 14:22:53
We are not even into December yet and some headers on here have already mentioned the T word. JESUS guys come on. One game at a time. I bet the same people have their Christmas tree up already. 😳.
30 Nov 2015 14:55:05
No but i did see that on the way to the game the other day and did think bit much. not even in December yet.
30 Nov 2015 15:41:10
Klopp said ' are u crazy? '
30 Nov 2015 14:14:14
RE: Podcast #10
About the only thing I agreed with Benny on was Ed's position on Clyne, I just can't see what he's doing wrong. I agree that he's not offering a lot going forward, but we were also complaining about leaking goals. I'm happy to wait for JK to fully implement his ideas on how he wants the team to play before I pass judgement on his attacking play, for now however I think he's doing a sterling job defensively. I do agree that Bellerin is better, he will go to the top I think.
Cheers,
30 Nov 2015 15:16:54
Fornax flannaghan is a better right back and I hope he finds his form and fitness quickly so we will see what an improvement he actually is on Clyne.
30 Nov 2015 16:12:04
Flanagan is not a better right back and is not half as quick as Clyne either. He has barley kicked a ball for a year and a half so if you think Flanagan will just walst back into the team you are having a laugh! Also Flanagans best games were at LB no shadow of a doubt about that either, but Moreno is getting better and better. Flanagan will be backup for both positions nothing more. He will play once Clyne or Moreno need a breather.
30 Nov 2015 16:33:41
Like I said in another post I think clyne is boss and hasn't put a foot wrong all season. Next Liverpool and England right back for the next ten years.
30 Nov 2015 17:29:53
I think Flanno is too slow to be a full back. Maybe he could look to become a DM? Lack of pace doesn't stop Lucas being a top class DM due to his excellent positioning and reading of the game.
30 Nov 2015 18:09:20
"find his form and fitness "
Read the post properly sabona. You look abit thick.
30 Nov 2015 18:25:59
find his form and fitness? You're the one massively overating Flanagan so i think you will find that he will only be a rotation option nothing more. If he's even half the player he was that is! Just because Flanno's a scouser will not mean much or anything for Klopp.
30 Nov 2015 13:51:40
Reading the posts I don't get some of you. LFC was hardly unimpressive yesterday. In the first 30 minutes we pressed them off the pitch. If the ball from Ibe goes in instead of the post we probably get 2 or 3. I've seen marked improvement from the squad and am really tired of reading this one and that one aren't good enough. You all sound like Americans notching about a quarterback.
30 Nov 2015 14:12:11
People are just desperate for us to kick on. There's a big opportunity this season to upset the odds. If we can improve and become more consistent the chance is there.
Some of the players are not good enough long-term.
30 Nov 2015 14:16:32
Unimpressive, sorry mate. Some good pressing at times, yes, but doing very little with the intercepted ball and nothing other than that.
30 Nov 2015 14:33:20
Maybe I have my rose tinted glasses on but this was an okay game. Not bad and we where most definitely not "lucky to win as some have stated. Ex the shot on the post, the two through balls that where just inches of going in for ds.
Anyway I agree not the best home game bit still good, its not like we played like utd and won if you think we have it bad look at one of there games, boring as hell to watch and really void of skill.
{Ed001's Note - I don't get the lucky to win thing, we were by far the better side.}
30 Nov 2015 14:44:45
Annoyed me on motd2, they said we were poor as we had 2 shots on target, course they failed to mention Swansea had zero shots on target didn't they.
30 Nov 2015 12:47:41
Klopp is doing a great job but there are passengers in our team. Milner, lallana and mignolet are serious weak spots because I always believed if you play a position you have to offer something. Lallana kills our play and milner is milner. Flannaghan is do believe we get a real chance to challenge Clyne who has been average. Still waiting for texeria to get a run of games.
Lucas is the only starter for me in midfield. But when henderson returns I donot wants to see can dropped. Milner has to lose his place.
30 Nov 2015 13:14:36
Why are we so called fans continually slating our players.
It's getting a bit pathetic. It would be fair if they weren't trying but players like Milner and Lallana are running their socks off. I recall many fans on here slating Lucas. Can't we just get behind the new manager and all the players wearing the mighty red shirts of LFC.
{Ed001's Note - so a player not playing well should just be applauded week in week out? Never criticised because otherwise superfans will start whining about the criticism. Now that would be pathetic. This is nothing like the Lucas boo boys, who just booed him because they didn't like him. Lallana works hard, but he needs to learn to release the ball earlier or be moved on, what is wrong with telling him that? Milner has been rank in most games, there is nothing wrong with that being pointed out. So long as the criticism is not just based on a dislike of them, and is fair, what is the problem?}
30 Nov 2015 13:16:05
Clyne average? You cannot be serious. He's one of the best buys we've made in a long time.
Lallana and Milner give 100% every game. you can't ask for more than that .
30 Nov 2015 13:54:28
Hi Ed001
Thanks for reply. We have a new manager, players are adapting to his way of playing. Yep they make mistakes all players do but they also do some things well. Agree Lallana needs to learn when to pass it, but I've also see him win the ball back and play it out of trouble. On more than one occasion but saying that he has given the ball away too. I just don't want to focus on all the negative things we had a lot of that under Rodgers tenure. Milner is a work horse and has never been anything else at any other team. So not sure what we fans expect from. There have been many more positives in the last several weeks but just seems to still negativity. But that could just we the way football is going.
Thanks for all your hard work Ed001 always nice to read your responses to fans.
{Ed001's Note - I am not disputing that they do good things as well as bad things, but that doesn't mean they should be immune from criticism.}
30 Nov 2015 13:57:08
I actually think Milner is improving.
Lallana is still keeping hold of the ball too long and slowing play down.
Clyne is decent, some defensive frailties still. The fact he got an England cap is a sad indictment of international football.
30 Nov 2015 14:01:27
Clyne is boss like, even if ed001 doesn't agree. What an improvement on Glen Johnson.
{Ed001's Note - I do agree he is a major improvement on Glen Johnson, but he is not boss.}
30 Nov 2015 14:48:48
The thing I agree most with on this thread is the super fan bit, annoys me so much that people moan at people moaning. As if any of the players read this and get upset. If they're not playing well, why can't people post their opinions here.
I've voiced opinions on lallana not quite being good enough, but I've also said he played very well against city, looks fitter and quicker and may have a place to come, I don't think many people on here just slate players because they dislike them, just express opinions on how they play.
30 Nov 2015 14:15:38
The one major improvment clyne needs in his game is crossing abilities. Benteke waits the whole 90 mts to get once decent in.
30 Nov 2015 15:15:12
I don't care how many dislikes or disagrees I get. Milner and lallana working hard should be a minimum on the wages they are earning. They both have offered very little going forward and milner has offerers nothing defensively either. Yes cylne has been average. I don't know if you were witching the same sport. Players should be critised on poor performances continually. Lallana is a forward player and scores very little and drys up our attacks and keeping the ball until he loses it. Fans can keep applauding but we will win very little.
30 Nov 2015 20:53:22
I've never understood this idea that as soon as a player dons a Red jersey, we "must back him" and any kind of criticism means you're a bad fan, and not backing the team.
Heard a lot of this in the spring about Rodgers too, "We're not getting Klopp! So, shut up and back Rodgers! ".
I've likewise been a frequent critic of Milner. He works hard, and seems like a quality guy in terms of character, but he's overpaid and somewhat overrated on so many other key aspects of the game. Pointing this out, isn't to "constantly slate" a player. I was obviously stoked that Milner scored that penalty (though he also needs to mix it up. another right down the middle) .
IMHO, Swansea was very lucky they were not down 3 after 30 minutes.
30 Nov 2015 11:49:19
6 points off the top and that is great. Are we going to win the league probably not only advantage is that we have played the top teams away but the down side to that is our away performances seem to be better than at home for now anyway! We have got some important players coming back like hendo, sturridge, flanno, rossiter and enrique which does make the squad bigger and depth is important. Are we all expecting to win the league? No! Is our aim top 4 Yes and if we get that then i'm sure we will all be happy and let Klopp buy in the summer get his own players in (be interesting to see who he gets in) i for one is very pleased with the Klopp hiring and is a real message to the rest of the league. Ed002 you will know i am guessing that FSG are very happy with there decision about sacking rodgers for klopp!?
{Ed002's Note - FSG are desperate for on field success and made the change because they considered it a better chance with Klopp. They will be happy when they get some on field success which they feel they have paid for at least twice over.}
30 Nov 2015 10:36:37
I don't understand y some post, can is not good enough to play in midfield.
He has hardly played in midfield in his liverpool career. He is showing his skills and improvement all the time.
Glad to see that first change Jurgen made was moving can to mid and milner to wings.
I hope lovren also improves, so that we don't have to dig deep again for new signings.
I am happy with every move liverpool made this year including all the new signings.
Glad to see liverpool kept brendan untill klopps availability.
Although I would have chopped him the day he said defensive errors are not coachable. Ha Ha not sure y he was paid for?
30 Nov 2015 11:06:32
I'm especially happy with us changing our manager.
Side Question
Who would you rather have right now, Migs or Reina?
30 Nov 2015 11:38:46
Reina, both had faults but don't remember Pepe ever holding the ball for 21 seconds,
30 Nov 2015 11:39:53
Reina dipped but to be fare i don't know how he is doing now! Migonlet needs to go in my opinion, great shot stopper not much else. two games in a row pulled up about time wasting and good on the refs in all honesty. The fans will get on his back now every time he holds onto the ball. In the paper today that Jack Butland name has been mentioned but i just don't know if he is up to playing for Liverpool yet.
30 Nov 2015 12:39:58
Can't believe anyone would actually want to moan about ANYTHING now really?!
We've negotiated the last 3 games with maximum points, are 4 points off 4th and 6 points off top spot.
Yes, we haven't played too well at Anfield lately, but I'd rather that then playing well and losing!
Klopp talked about turning us into believers; we need to stop being negative and looking for faults when we're on a good run of form.
Of course, people want to analyse and critique performances, but let's be positive and happy that even when not playing at our full capacity, we are still taking full points.
If we keep believing (fans, players, EVERYONE), it can surely only help us develop a true winning mentality and make us even harder to beat?
Our form at Anfield is 2 wins in the last 2 btw; which is defo all that matters!
WGWTL!
30 Nov 2015 11:58:10
Reina obviously, he lost form but he was starting regaining it towards the end before we sent him on loan to Napoli where he was generally very good for them. His wages were massive i think that was one of the main reasons we let him go.
30 Nov 2015 13:11:39
Reina had a double hernia which led to a dip in form.
30 Nov 2015 13:59:39
We haven't got maximum points from last 3 games unless you're including the Europa.
30 Nov 2015 14:51:08
I agree with the can comment, he does seem to developing with every game, albeit slowly, but if he continues, great! And Ron, he is talking about the last 3 games, as he said this week!
30 Nov 2015 19:30:59
Ron, I said we've won our last 3 games (Man City, Bordeaux and Swansea) .
I also said we've won our last 2 games at Anfield (Bordeaux and Swansea) .
30 Nov 2015 20:43:03
"We negotiated our last 3 games with maximum points"
Is what you said. That's true if you're counting the Europa but not if you're talking about the premier league.
30 Nov 2015 21:32:14
Seriously, you're going to quote me word for word? Why, when the quote is still 100% true/accurate?
"We've negotiated our last 3 games with maximum points" (Man City, Bordeaux, Swansea), true or not?
I didn't mention any other competition and there is no relevance to you mentioning the Europa League whatsoever; it doesn't change anything I've said.
My point is still right; we've won our last 3 games (the last 2 of which where at Anfield)
All I am saying is be happy/positive; how can't you be with 9 points from the last 9 available (regardless of competition)?
30 Nov 2015 21:33:33
'Last 3 games' would clearly include Bordeaux in the Europa League; as this was 2 games ago.
30 Nov 2015 10:06:15
I'm going to be bold and call it- Liverpool are in a title race.
Why?
We have already faced Chelsea, United, City, Arsenal, Spurs, Stoke and Everton. All away from home. What makes that so important? The fact we are 6 points off 1st.
If Liverpool can fall into a consistent away form groove, improve home performances, and keep the injury toll relatively low, then there's no reason to believe why we can't be in a title race. Despite being unbalanced, the squad is really not as bad as some others have said. It is a squad not only talented, but also managed by an extremely talented manager. In 2013/14 we had Suarez, this season we have Klopp.
January business may determine whether we're just contenders, or deadly serious contenders.
30 Nov 2015 11:01:36
I am going to be bold and say it, Liverpool fans are dilusional at times. We have a great manager, no argument about that but a very average squad, especially when our best starting 11 aren't fit. We had a very poor game yesterday and were very lucky to win from a very soft penalty (second time this week) . I don't think we created one decent chance all game. OK you need to win also games when you don't play great but it happened many times this year including under Klopp. City and Arsenal at least and probably United as well have much stronger teams however you look at it. Aguero, Silva and Sanchez are all great players but they don't miss them as much as we miss Couts when he is not on the pitch.
Some of the statments I have read here from fans only this week: Firmino is the new Suarez, Milner is the new Kuyt, Iiory will solve all our defensive problems, Ibe's only problem is that he is too nice and not selfish enough (or the weather is reponsible for him not having one good pass yesterday) . A lot of illusions.
We have a decent squad when Couts is on the pitch, when Firmino has a good day (not often enough unfortunately) and when teams are not ready for our pressing game and play open game. Hopefully with Henderson and Sturridge playing (and Ibe and Milner on the bench) we will be even better but we are still far from top 4 and talking about the title at this stage is a joke. Yes if we bring 4-5 top players on Jan things can change but I doubt if we go for more than one maybe. So title, not this year.
30 Nov 2015 10:40:44
Why do you think all the above teams would come to Anfield and bow their heads infront of us.
By the time City face Liverpool at Anfield, They would be in a must win position and I expect them to have a reinforced squad with Aguero.
Pretty much the case with Chelsea and Arsenal. Spurs would be in contention for the CL place as well.
Man United is the only team we would beat hands down.
30 Nov 2015 11:00:43
"If Liverpool can fall into a consistent away form groove, improve home performances, and keep the injury toll relatively low, then there's no reason to believe why we can't be in a title race"
So what your saying is if we effectively go on an incredible run between now and May and somehow become lucky with injuries we'll win the league? Why didn't I think of this?
30 Nov 2015 11:24:19
Aguero played when we played them EG.
30 Nov 2015 12:24:05
We're not in a race yet but we could be. I can only see this team improving the longer the season goes on. If we can stay within 6 points by Jan then we could challenge ( as outsiders) The main issue is city and arsenal are both capable of going on runs and have arguably better squads. First goal get in the top 4, second goal stay there, next goal push for the top if we come out of xmas in touching distance. Helpfully we've seen the worst of our injuries which can only help as we head into xmas.
30 Nov 2015 12:44:34
No Clarke, you are just interested in making things up about what I said so you can be a petty drama queen.
Every title winning team has good luck with injuries, so there's no need to be dismayed when I suggest that we need a consistently healthy squad.
You didn't think of that because obviously you have less belief in our players' capabilities than I do. If I don't see any strong evidence of its possibilities, then I wouldn't say it, would I? But never did I mention anything of an incredible run, nor did I mention that we'd actually win the league.
Fanobip, you sound like a miserable sod for the sake of being one. Can't think of one clear cut chance? Lallana to Ibe in the first half. There's one.
'Oh, but look how poor we were yesterday! '
So what? Are you going to just cherry pick all the ugly wins as evidence why the players are not good enough, while completely ignoring the impressive wins? Note I did mention that my theory partly hinges on us improving home performances, but I wouldn't say that if I didn't think we were capable.
And Jesus Christ, how the hell was it a 'soft' penalty? What, does a player have to go out of his way to punch a ball in order for it to be a proper handball? He jumped up, turned his back, and let his arms flail around. It's a penalty.
I'm just sick of this culture of being shot down if you make any kind of prediction or statement that's even slightly unexpected, or out of the norm. People need to chill out, and realise that there's life outside the box.
30 Nov 2015 12:49:26
No Harry, but *in time* I believe it will be an easier proposition than going to their own backyard.
City have a horrible record at Anfield, and it will be as must-win for us just as much as them.
We are more than capable of beating Spurs and Arsenal at home. Chelsea would park the bus so I only expect a point out of that.
Aguero scored their goal you clown.
30 Nov 2015 12:53:58
It must be understood that the competition this year is, quite frankly, rubbish. Chelsea probably won't even make the top 4, Arsenal are inherently injured plagued and have a blindly arrogant manager, City are too unpredictable and United are just not that good. Spurs? They're a good team, but I think we're better.
30 Nov 2015 12:53:58
Can't we just enjoy the results and see where it takes us?
This stupid pressure and overreacting NEVER helps us.
Similarly, neither will slagging as many players as possible and being super pessimistic.
This season was always going to be stop/start in terms of Klopp getting his ideas across to his players, and them making mistakes as they become accustomed to what is asked of them.
Next season will be when he (Klopp) is really judged (some of his own purchases added, as well as a season to fully settle into the league and its environment - media intrusion, LFC fans' expectations, no winter break etc. ) ; let's support ALL at the club until then and stop the sighing, moaning, general anxiety at games.
If we want to be winners, we need to think like winners. 3 points are all that matters; the more of these we accrue the easier the next 3 will be to gain.
30 Nov 2015 13:12:36
Staples that is a great post mate well said. Thank god!
30 Nov 2015 13:17:14
It was a soft penalty in the sense that many referess don't give penalties for hand balls.
With anoter referee no penalty, a draw and we are still 9th in the table. We had this argument here early season when we got some points against Bournamoth and Arseanl and some people said that's great start and some of us said yes the result is great (and we are all happy with yesterday result) but luck comes and go and if performance don't improve the points will not come. And we know how it ended.
Fortunately we are in a better place now thanks to BR gone and Klopp takes over. If we keep improving we can challange for the top 4. We are not there yet (we are six) an we are not there with consistency and with the quality of some of our players. The fact that we played a lot of the big teams is great but there are only 5 games to the end of the first round so other of the big teams also played the big teams. Arsenal for example have to host City but other than that have a very nice streak of games till the end of the round. Despite our very impressive win against City I still think over the mnay games left yet they are a better team than us.
No one shot you down for making an out of the box prediction, people just tell you that you are wrong and explain why. This is how this site works.
30 Nov 2015 11:47:32
We have struggled when teams park, no matter who the manage has been till now.
30 Nov 2015 14:01:00
Of course we're in the race, but then Leicester are leading the race.
30 Nov 2015 19:42:39
Ta Billy!
I just think we need to try our best to be positive and stop worrying about any ifs, buts and maybes for now.
I understand it's all part of being a fan, of course, but a lot of people are still inclined to think negative no matter what.
The performance wasn't good enough, correct, but the result was. Therefore, the performance was!
3 points is all that matters; ask Chelsea, Sunderland, Leicester, Newcastle, anyone, they'd all agree!
30 Nov 2015 21:43:15
Fanobip a guess you never heard what dermot said on sky sports then? He had his arms out so it's a pen. Why are you been so critical of our team, we beat Chelsea and city away so i doubt we are as bad as you say and to say we need 5 players is a complete joke! Yeah we need a keeper and a decent centre half but that's it fella. Let's get real here the league is wide open this year and it's there for the taking for 5 or 6 teams.
01 Dec 2015 07:19:16
That is such a stupid thing to say fanobip. By that logic, penalties for foul tackles are also soft, because I've seen referees wave them away too.
Staples, I agree with you that champion teams take it game by game. Except, we're not the players. We're the fans. Fans discussing maybe possible title prospects on the internet, largely based on our fixture outlook and the form of our competitors, makes no difference on the actual team. That being said, while it is better to take short term goals, i. e. 'game by game', that needs to be within the scope of a long term goal you are ultimately working towards.
01 Dec 2015 17:12:53
Nick, my whole point is that the fans need to believe as much as the players do.
Klopp wasn't just asking the players; we need to do our part as well.
We both need to inspire one another and create as much of a positive atmosphere as possible around the club.
I'm not here to have a pop or question what people talk about; just feel our typical mindset hasn't really worked so why not try a change?
Think positive and maybe we'll see the difference?
If not, we won't be any worse off anyway.
What's to lose?
30 Nov 2015 08:19:04
Hi, all very early but up to now what would be your most memorable klopp moment or quote?
Mine would have to be "this could be a very special day if we want it, if we want it"
30 Nov 2015 09:15:19
"You're taking longer than Simon Mignolet taking a kick. "
in response to a reporter who taking too long to ask a question.
30 Nov 2015 10:00:26
"This wasn't our best performance but it was our best performance with a strong wind I have seen until now"
Post-Swansea.
30 Nov 2015 08:32:00
In England, Everyone wants Transfers, I prefer Training.
30 Nov 2015 11:20:23
kovacic*^^^.
30 Nov 2015 14:02:14
"It is normal. "
". for players to play against their former clubs"
30 Nov 2015 14:47:44
On why he loves Football - 'because you can beat better teams, if you play better together'
I'm really starting to believe hecan make the sum of the parts much more.
30 Nov 2015 07:38:52
Being tired can affect the performance a lot.
I watched the whole game, In my opinion the energy in first 20 mins was enough to KILL the game. But as time passed we could see the Europa Hangover and game being stretched.
I really hope Milner can be new Kyut. Only issue i see with Milner is his ball control is not good.
I was hoping for Allen to get a start or replacement for Lallana in second half.
As said by Manager in one of the very first interviews that "players need to have vision, they should look around to pass the ball"
Most of the key passes made by Ibe were intercepted by Swansea.
And we cannot ignore the bad weather that affected all his deliveries into the box.
It was indeed boring to watch the game after first half but vital 3 points and 6 points behind the Leaders. Hope the gap reduces further by end December.
30 Nov 2015 09:32:56
Kuyt scored goals when it matterd most. He stood up when Torres was out injured.
30 Nov 2015 03:54:48
Btw any news on when Flanagan will be back?
He'll thrive under the gegenpressing, I think. :)
30 Nov 2015 03:51:52
It was quite fun to watch how high we pressed in the 1st half.
I mean, how often do you see a team not in possession of the ball but still only have the GK and ONE defender in their own half? Madness. But fun to watch. Haa
Anyway I'm happy with the win. I'm happy with any kinda win.
C'mon! Gimme another 24 1-0 wins from own goals, dodgy penalties, beach ball deflections - I'll take 'Em all! I'm not greedy. :)
30 Nov 2015 08:14:57
We did not press high instead we had possession and kept on passing in and around midfield.
This problem has been on going form years. Teams coming to Anfield and sit back, with 10 men behind the ball.
Swansea never had any interest in playing any sort of football. Liverpool under various managers have struggled to break down a team who makes it compact and keep a decent shape at the back.
30 Nov 2015 13:36:49
EG what game did you watch!?!?
30 Nov 2015 14:03:19
For me it's still a hangover from the previous regime.
I'm not worried about it.