Liverpool Banter Archive October 30 2012

 

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30 Oct 2012 22:33:25
To all those impatient supporters:

Houllier on Rodgers "You need to give him time, it will take time a minimum of 2 yrs, maybe 3 and if owners are patient it will come good."

Lee73


31 Oct 2012 00:07:28
Lee mate I can't see owners giving 2-3 years to Rodgers if we don't quialify for champions league as ed2 says there is no transition in footy.


Yes I see your point,but they have too, otherwise we are back to square one everytime!
Lee73


Houlier is the 1 hu destroy liverpool, he bought every single french flop, wile wenger bought every single french succes and spending the same amount of money wenger spent, and benitez bought many spanish succes, and would b more if he would ve the same budget houlier had, silva, villa, cazorla, aguero, falcao, simao, vidic, dani alves, lavezzi, jovetic etc, and targeted on wery cheap price, and that abiliti we has give it 2 rodgers, nowing that we need a finisher and bring another kuyt on borini, instead of jackson martines, or jovetic a wery good finishers, jus realise that wy we r goin from bad to worse, only benitez can solve our mess, now this mess its not only created by the owner also by supporter 4 not trying hard to get benitez back.


The owners have no choice but to stick with BR


They can't afford another managers nightmare

So Rodgers it is for the next 5 years

This will be a disaster but thats what will happen


Kenny where art thou?


 

 

30 Oct 2012 22:32:10
I think it's safe to say that after a Walcott hattrick vs Reading, Arsenal will think it best to tie him up to a new contract.


Shame cos you have to admire B.R seeing something in Walcott as his supposed Centre forward.When you look at his performance tonight-he was correct


Most already know he's a good centre forward


Walcott is a known lfc fan. Don't write that off just yet.


I saw that at least 3 years ago, big respect to me! Mind you I do tend to see more than most

Chris in Tamworth


But you rate darren bent lol, you have no proverbial leg to stand on

john wayne


John Wayne, I don't rate Bent as a footballer particularly but I do rate him as a goalscorer because he is one and we've needed one so we could have done worse.

Chris in Tamworth


 

 

30 Oct 2012 22:27:23
Just read some of your more recent posts Waro, seems that even after the stark reality that you do not understand football, after your responses to my posts, you still havnt learnt your lesson.
Oh ye of little faith.
Team is playing well, creating a lot and looking dangerous. Id say only 3 or 4 teqms are playing better stuff than us in the league, weve just not been getting results, without an out and out goalscorer were struggling to kill games off but confidence is growing, goals are starting to go in and were on the ascent. Give the manager time Waro, he will be great for ue.

Anfield Andy


31 Oct 2012 00:27:59
Andy mate in footy only one statistic counts and that's RESULTS playing good footy is luxuary. We can bleat how many chances we are creating again it doesn't matter coz only statistic counts is GOALS. At the end of the season we will see where Liverpool fc finishes again which is the most important statistic in FOOTY.


Please make up your mind. First you say that only one stat counts and that's results. Then, you say the only stat that counts is goals.


 

 

30 Oct 2012 22:27:04
Thats Theo off the jan list, his five mil fee just became ten


Dont you mean 15 became 20


10m would be a bargain!!


That's right, all based on one game!?


 

 

30 Oct 2012 22:20:37
January priorities -

Striker (Huntelaar)
Sahin's signature

Does anyone know approximately how much Sahin would cost? (if Real Madrid wanted to sell and Sahin wanted to sign of course)

Lee


The question is will sahin want to sign for us so much to almost half his pay ?
derryred


The targets are Christian erikson and Walcott. Both will make a massive difference.


Real Madrid want 20m euros (£16m) we have already payed £4m to have him on loan so £12


I have heard from a friend inside the Madrid hiearchy that they are looking for 19m for sahin.

I think they could be negotiated down but not by much.

Nevada


 

 

30 Oct 2012 21:45:26
Luis is getting so much stick and the loyalilty he has shown by signing a new contract would it be to much to ask to sing his song at Nufc game on 7 mins 4 7 mins ?


Luis seems to like the stick. In addition people don't hate Suarez. Most people won't actually admit they like him but they do.


 

 

30 Oct 2012 21:38:25
Has anybody else noticed Brendan Rodgers is demanding the praise for everything that is happening on the pitch.

Stirling scored and he had them working on the type of goal all week.

He praised the team against Everton for adapting well to his tactical triumph.

I am not saying I don't like him but I am old fashioned I want the manager to deflect blame from the players, not praise


BR the egotist

Surely that could nver happen?

Food for thought!


 

 

30 Oct 2012 21:23:56
I love our young developing talent, we've got players coming through all over the pitch capable of playing a big part in our team both now and in the future. What's so great is that the technical ability of say Sterling and Suso is already at such a high level, presumably given their natural talent, but also the great youth setup. Other players like Yesil, Ibe and hopefully Sinclair also seem to hold wonderful potential

However I'm a little concerned by two things. The first is that when players like Wisdom or Sterling have a slightly off day,people are questioning attitudes/abilities etc. it's risky playing very inexperienced players, as they're likely to be inconsistent and perhaps make decisions that more senior players wouldn't make. They also might not be mentally prepared for such big games, perhaps Wisdom found this out on the weekend. But despite these factors, nobody should ever really question anyone goving that level of performance at such a young age, especially when they're being chosen to represent our club.

The second is my concern of the overuse of certain players, most notably Sterling. My issue with this is that despite being young and having natural energy, his body is probably not fully trained for strenuous training and matches every week. He's or a slender frame and I just don't want to become Arsenal where we over work our young talent into injuries.

Those points said, I do have faith in our staff to get the balance right. BR obviously has a lot of faith in our players and I am delighted to be in this position, just a little protective of what we have.

Papa G


 

 

30 Oct 2012 20:45:41
ed001 you said dan smith is impressing so far. as far as i remember he is a midfielder, is he more defensive or attacking midfielder.
cheers ed001 {Ed001's Note - from what I have seen of him, he is very much attacking.}


Very mjch attacking, likes the back of the net, hes got pace!#
#
billynwa


 

 

30 Oct 2012 21:19:29
TEAM....v Swansea jones, henderson, carra, coats, robinson, shelvey, allen, cole, assaidi, yesil, downing....been told this Chazza from old swan.


Change cole for suso and i like it. In addition put morgan and ngoo on the bench


Yeah i heard this team too, hendo at RB as well


 

 

30 Oct 2012 20:42:20
i admire everton, their fans and manager. they have done well last few years. in moyes time though no trophies, and this team may and may not make top 4, more than likely not. thats it though, thats their limit and thats what kills them.
look at us complaning about last decade or so while moyes there, we have won 2 fA cups, 3 league cups, uefa cup and champions league.
also we are gearing up the levels again and they know it.
now you blue lads can come here with all the stats you want, about which ever game you want, you know the score.

B O H


I agree with most of what you said except admiration of Moyes. The guy runs his mouth and has Fergie's brown on his nose. Not exactly what I would consider a class act.


Yeah moyles and lawrenson r battling for fergies affections not to mention big sam.Tommy Irish Red


 

 

30 Oct 2012 20:19:27
I have to laugh at all these everton fans on here mentioning statistics....... Let me tell you that statistics mean nothing in football, everton could have 90% of the possession n still lose the game..... Everton could have 30 shots on target to the other teams 1 shot on target n still lose the game..... The only thing in football that matters is the score line and that's a fact!

I know what everton fans are Angre at..... It's because Liverpool had there reserve goalie jones in nets, They had a 19 yr old wisdom at right back, they had Enrique playing in his 1st game back for a while, they had derby debuts in sahin n Allen, they had a 17 yr old on wing in sterling and an 18 yr old on the other wing in suso, so that's 5 players playing in there 1st derby game n still everton couldn't beat us! We also used subs who came on that are 22 Henderson, 21 Coates n 20 Shelvy......so stop being bitter and move on! You got lucky in the end and that is the truth!

Ack17


You missed out without reina johnson lucas kelly and borini. also everton have an old team


84 86 89 fact over stat...
Paisley's genius


Had to play third choice right back wisdom no johnson or kelly


Where are Everton in the League.The table doesn't lie.Where did Everton finish compared to Liverpool last season.

Marky Mark


Paisley is that your wife's vital stats? Haha

MIKEY


Paisley is 84, 86 & 89 the average age of the Everton squad after substitutions. Before any blues say I don't know my history they are the years when you had the privelidge to lose to us in major finals.
Scouse_Pride


Well evertons league position last season means nothing, as we are in europe having got to an fa cup final and winning the carling cup. I would class that over 7th place any day.
derryred


Marky mark - the expression "the table doesnt lie is only appropriate at the end of the season once everyone has played each other at home and away. at the moment it doesnt give a fair reflection as some teams have had easier starts than others.
for example:

liverpool: everton:
west brom man utd
city villa
arsenal west brom
sunderland newcastle
man utd swansea
norwich southamton
stoke wigan
reading qpr
everton liverpool

liverpool have had to play 3 champions league teams already where everton by comparison have just had the one.

NZL_red


 

 

30 Oct 2012 20:10:29
I have grown to really like Brendan Rogers.....seems to be moving the team in the right direction and comes over very well. (Unlike KK last season who was nothing short of embarassing with the press, although I love the man!)
I am even more impressed with his dignified silence after the travesty of sunday! Could you imagine Moyes keeping quiet if Everton had had a perfectly good goal disallowed in the last minute?
Funny Moyes not mentioning diving again after his captain did what he did!
Great Stuff BR you've got my support....just need a couple of good strikers!


To be fair to Kenny, he had good reason to hate the press after the lies they printed about Hillsbrough.


Moyes is whiner who has no concept of class.


30 Oct 2012 23:33:37
Mate Rodgers has been warned by refree association that if he continues to ctitisice refrees then he will be punished that's why we are hearing Gerrard talking more about refrees instead of Rodgers.


Kenny is a very different man to BR more heart on his sleeve person


Rodgers plays to the gallery


Punished by the ref association? Explain. Surely we've already been punished in the only way that crowd can; poor performances helping the opposition. What else can they do?


 

 

30 Oct 2012 19:35:10
Think the youngsters have been fantastic but concerned that they will start to need a break for example thought Wisdom got a bit exposed on Sunday so when Johnson comes back would keep Enrique in for a couple of weeks. Also! Would think about giving Assaidi a run in the team and give Suso some time on the bench to come on and play a more central role


 

 

30 Oct 2012 19:33:56
Regarding the old technology in games debate I think I good idea would be an appeal system in which the manager gets 3 appeals in the game he can appeal against disallowed goals penalty decisions and so on, the decision gets reviewed by an assistant ref(a bit like an umpire in cricket) if the decision is correct an appeal is lost if the managers wins the appeal is retained(similar to hawk eye in tennis) this system will retain the romance of the game it still won't be as strict as goal line tech(although this still needed arguably) if this was in place now BR would have appealed an we would have won the game against toffees. Allot of people will disagree but it's just an idea.

Square tomato


I've been saying this for flippin' ages! The closest I'd say is the way it's used in hockey. It would prevent so many bad decisions from standing and see much more justice in the results. As it stands, it is ridiculous, you just need to look at the Derby and Chelsea v Utd to see it, and that was only on one day!

ChrisMiz


Obviously Rednose would be allowed 3 before, 3 during & 3 after the game.


31 Oct 2012 08:28:55
Would like to see the equivalent of a 'any reason not to give the try' in football. Would have changed 3 results potentially last week and is done pretty quickly.
IndoDave


The system in tennis is perfectly good for line calls. No reason it can't be used in football or any other sport.


 

 

30 Oct 2012 12:24:45
well eds what player who you love to see wearing the red jersey after january that we have a chance of signing

thanks
RC {Ed001's Note - there is none that I would love. Not that I can think of anyway.}


I'd be happy with a decent striker who knows where the goal is.


Love to see Luis Suarez wearing it after January and every year after that

cozinoz


 

 

30 Oct 2012 18:46:47
you gotta love today's Liverpool echo, after sad stevie gerrard slammed us as "not showing up to play football" the good old echo put him and brenda back in their place with the actual stats, facts are, we had more chances, more possession, more dominance, more crosses, more passes (and way more class) so put that in your pipe and smoke it coyb


You must be delighted... Sadly nothing better to do than come over here with you insignificant posts.


& still you have no class,oh well......


You forgot the most important stat we scored three you scored one your second was our throw in

alan waddle ( remember my stat 1-nil at your wooden ground)


I don't get it?

You lot and many others slate Liverpool fans for saying the exact same.. Last season and this season(bar a few games) Liverpool have played teams off the park!

It's 'poor old Liverpool' when we mention stats and possession etc, but for you it's a triumph?

Double Standards? Silly Bitters..

Lee YNWA


And more trophies! Ooops! Scrub that last bit! No trophies is what i meant to say.

The Irish Rover


And a cheating linesman!


You really are bitter aint ya, for all your stats and that and the fact that you lot were going on about how your going to teach our young guys a lesson and that its the worst liverpool side for years and the best and most exciting everton side in years, you managed with the help of a dodgy linesman to scrape a draw on your own turf!!! let it go mate the most important stat was the result, which was a draw, get over it and move on, havent you lot got a cup match tonight or tomorrow to help you lot forget about the derby?


Funny how all these twisteds are shoutin there mouths off because they finished above us last season and are an uncatchable(ha ha) 6 points ahead this. See the difference between us is we don't care were you finish, were if you finish above us you see it as a major achievement. If you do finish above us this season there will be a big silver lining in that for us, why? Because the two times you have managed it before (the only times since the mid eighties) we won the CHAMPIONS LEAGUE and LEAGUE CUP in those seasons, so we will stroll off with yet another trophy. Thank you and goodnight!

Waro


Maybe you've seen the stat that Everton have played more long balls this season than Stoke. Kinda backs up what SG was saying. We can to play decent football. Your lot came to kick lumps out of the opposition. We had a young, new team learning a new system under a new manager, yet it took the actions of the match officials to stop us winning. At least you've got one of your cup finals out of the way without defeat.


And still you couldnt win, and had to rely on a terrible decision to save you a point.. forever in a red shadow!

ian the red


I thought you bitters "don't care what the redrubbishe say"


Can someone post all the rest of the stats between Liverpool and Everton in the last 20 years please? They might tell a very one-sided story

cozinoz


And yet you still couldn't beat us lol
You actually lost the game to us AGAIN!


Well i suggest you watch the match again bitter coyb....dont take stats as face value because they easily hide the truth,you will see for yourself if you can bear to watch through the match again my bitter friend....more chances?? hmmm maybe wayward nothing attempts,but real goal scoring chances,apart from the 2 goals you sneaked(1 of which should never of counted) you only had one other real chance that skirtel stopped,whilst we had several CLEAR scoring chances suarez,gerrard and sterling to pick out a few and the CLEAR goal disallowed.....
more possesion? hmmm well look thats what happens 9 times out of 10 for the home team,especially when you fly into an early 2 goal lead and look to sit and counter whilst yous stumble through passing it round your own half unpressured with us just waiting for yas to hoof it upfield.....
more dominance? hmmm read above 2 comments and theres your answer again bluenose.....
more crosses? hmmm well was it really crosses or just another series of hoofs but from a bit more of an angle haha.....
more passes? hmmm if you havent got the picture ive paintedfor ya by now i doubt you ever will bitter coyb.....
as for more class? hmmm the biggest joke of all,kickin,foulin,pullin are players all over the place and the likes of the handsome trio of howard,neville and fellaini and the 2 nuggets osman and marielles chasing after the ref tryin to get are players booked and sent off,dont get me started on neville diving,that was a really classy showing there wasnt it lad?.....
anyway get that stuck in ya pipe kid and let the smoke cloud your crazy,bluenose tinted views a little more sunshine.....
small club,small mentality,forever in are shadow.....
rodger the dodger YNWA JFT96


Shame your superstars couldn't beat our young boys lol
RB


Is the Goalkeeper kicking the ball as high as possible 60 yds a pass!!!

To you Evertonians it's "Total Football"

Nearly as bad as the times when Moyes had extra ball boys on to get the ball back quick as possible for the long Throw ins!

Just like watching Barca???

Lyndon


Lyndon


And it still took a linesman to give ye a point


Typical Blue nose, shows how small your club is that you brag about statistics!
The fact is you drew 2-2 and should have lost 3-2! Nothing to be proud of but you come on here and post it !
We are disappointed with Sundays result but its a good result for a team of your size and ambition.

Jay


Nothing says class than your captain getting booked for a dive after your manager has been hoping for bans and slagging off divers all week in the press.

MIKEY


Never mind loving the echo what ive got to love is my job . i am the everton fc trophy room cleaner and i am out after two mins work every day .


No, Stevie G (the finest footballer of his generation) said that you lot were 'a lot like Stoke'. I think you played really well and showed a lot of character to come back from two goals down; but after we shored up the midfield with Shelvey you needed to most dubious offside flag in the history of all dubious offside flags to avoid a devestating last minute loss at home to us, your worst nightmare. So I don't think you're in a position to crow - you came back to draw at home and were lucky to have the point.


We had more perfectly good goals.

Sounds like big, hard Stevie has wound yous lot up hey!!


What do you know about class? What do you know about anything, football is about winning trophies. I don't remember you winning anything
Scouse_Pride


LMAO bitters getting slaughtered again lol
Come to Anfield and see what a trophy room looks like full lol
Lee73


 

 

30 Oct 2012 18:40:22
Question for ed001 if possible, do you know how the young lad Smith is getting on? Can't recall his first name we bought him from Crewe?

Square tomato {Ed001's Note - Dan Smith and it is early doors yet, but he is supposed to be impressing.}


Cheers ed good to hear.

Square tomato


His full name is Daniel Trickett-Smith and he has scored 3 goals in 6 games (1 sub) for the Academy.
DM2012


Trickett smith looks v good. small lad though!

billynwa


 

 

30 Oct 2012 18:21:29
Hi eds just a quick question & I would be very grateful if you could answer.

Using Dzeko as an example, you say that his wages are 160k per week, yet he doesnt really feature for Man City. Say if we offered him 100k per week, why would he not accept it!? He still earns more money than anyone could possibly need, but he will get to play week in, week out. Surely that is more valuable to him. When he looks back on his career with his grandkids, I'm sure he'd much rather say I became an LFC legend after playing there for 7 years and featuring in almost every game; than saying I earned a load of money, but I made a few sub appearences for Man City!

Number11x {Ed001's Note - not going to happen.}


Yes, I know that Dzeko won't happen, but I was just using him as an example as you mentioned his wages before. This example could go for any player on reasonably high wages.


Haha. Ery succinct there ed. But, to kind of rephrase the question, are there many players out there who won't always go for the biggest wage? I'd say probably the same as the rest of society - there will be a few players who would take less cash if they truly loved the club and the game, but probably not that many. But probably not many of us would do either - same job, more pay I'd probably do it. Saying that, it should never be all about the money, but it plays a big part! Just my opinion.

Nick {Ed001's Note - it is sad to say that very few care about anything other than money.}


Thats your vision from your side of the fence but in reality what would you do if you were on his side of the fence money money money and more chance of winning silverware ita a no brainer really unless your a die hard liverpool supporter


If money wasn't an issue to him he would never have joined man city in the first place.

MIKEY


Hopefully not


Dzeko isnt worth a 100k a week


 

 

30 Oct 2012 17:51:59
my point of view with our current teaam is we need to sell either skertel or agger because they cannot play with each other , second of all i think we need a least another two strikers a top class one eg. hunterlaar, ba,cavani, also i watched the game on sunday and thought gerrard looking passed it and think we should bring in someone like errikson to replace him, finally we need a good winger who can play on both flanks like sterling


If this is serious I feel bad for you.

pronin


Lost interest after "my point of view with our current teaam is we need to sell either skertel or agger because they cannot play with each other"..... What complete cr*p!


So you want to sell one out of two of our best players, the few world class players we have left in the squad, replace Gerrard who had one of his best games this season at the weekend, setting up one goal (should have been two but for the disallowed goal at the end) with a fantastic free kick.
And you also want two world class strikers but your options are Cavani or Huntelaar and Ba! The last two are not even in the same league as Cavani (who is totally unrealistic).
Football Manager syndrome.

Jay


What has a curly bright wig, a red honking nose and face paint that juggles well?


Yes they are "world class" players that's why they are "salable" assets, we have to be realistic we need cash for transfers and Skrtel or Agger could fetch approximately £20M each. Coates is ready to step up and Wisdom is a CB, we should sell one of them (DA/MS) now and re-invest the cash. The reality is that keeping both of them as good as they are is not going to make the difference for us this season but the cash could! JMO ged


The best part was when he said we need a winger who can play on both flanks like Sterling, well how about maybe ummm Sterling.
NotInTheKnow


 

 

30 Oct 2012 17:37:01
Is Lucas prone to injuries or has he been very unlucky!?
Redmanluka


Prone to injuries


No, he has had two (unrelated) injuries to speak of. Bad luck.


Dont think he was injured before until he done his knee in maybe someone esle can say for sure.
RB


Being prone to injuries IS very unlucky.


 

 

30 Oct 2012 17:33:51
Just want to say a big thank you to Rodolfo Borell and Frank McPharland for the outstanding work they have done with the academy players. I would like to see Borell promoted to first team coach in the next few years because it would help the first team, be nothing less than he deserves and it could also prevent any other team poaching them.
Rodolfo rarely seems to smile but he can be more than proud at the way the young players have performed in the first team.
McB


Great shout


 

 

30 Oct 2012 13:53:54
Ed001, you said the other day unless we get Higuain, falcao etc in January we should just leave it to the kids coming through; Sinclair, Yesil, Ibe etc.

What about Huntelaar? Cheap, proven goal scoring record in strong league and not at an age to prevent the youngsters getting a look in.

Cheers pal

ToonRed {Ed001's Note - no thank you, don't rate him, he failed in Spain and Italy.}


I would take him. His record in Spain was 8 goals in 20 games (7 as sub). Not really a failure but you would have to ask why he was sold so quickly.

The Irish Rover {Ed001's Note - because he was a failure.....}


Spot on Ed.


389 apps 254 goals A failure you call the boy your mad Ed honestl mate I would bit the hand of you if we get the chance to sign him. Hes a goal machaine and even at the age of 29 he could help yesil and suarez mature as gosl scores and help us get into the champions league. Him or Lorent would be my ideal striker for liverpool in Jan. YNWA

Scottybhoy 1888 {Ed001's Note - his record in weak leagues is bolstering the fact he can't hack a tougher league.}


Completely agree with the ed


With the ed all the way hes pants...
Rickblfc...


 

 

30 Oct 2012 13:51:58
hi ed001, i keep hearing all this chat about our youth team and their first team credentials. My question is just how good are they? Are the likes of adorjan, ibe, ngoo etc. future world stars or are they overhyped? Would really appreciate your opinion.

Tom Smith2 {Ed001's Note - Ibe and Sinclair, Mclaughlin and a couple of others certainly have outstanding potential, it is up to them how far they get. Adorjan and Ngoo and the rest, they are really looking at being squad players for us at best.}


I think Adorjan has a good chance


Don't agree with your Adorjan comment {Ed001's Note - I love Adorjan, but he doesn't seem to be on the verge of a breakthrough.}


Ed 001,who in your honest opinion will be the next to play for the senior side in the premier league?. And what do you see happening to Flanagan and Wilson, as they don't seem to be part of Rodgers plans {Ed001's Note - do you mean on a regular basis? If so it will be Robinson.}


Whatever happened to Alex O' Hanlon?

Only about 16 I know

Wasn't he supposed to be our next left back?


Thanks ed for your response, I meant someone who has not already played for the senior side in the premier league, I think Robinson should be starting every week, he's so much better than Enrique. {Ed001's Note - it is impossible to say, it will be injuries that decide it.}


Hi Ed001, What is your opinion about Brad Smith(LB) and Stephen Sama(CB).

And also 2 other U 16 kids, Alex O'Hanlon and Seyi Ojo.

Thanks mate,

AJ {Ed001's Note - Sama and Brad Smith I like a lot, Sama is just unlucky we have plenty of centre backs or he would have played. Smith is unlucky that he has Robinson to compete with. Both are very good young players capable of playing at Prem level, in my opinion. The other two are a bit lower down the pecking order, good youth players still, but neither look ready for the first team, yet.}


Thanks ed for your time and intake, do you think jon flanagan has what it takes, or will he become another player like jay spearing or stephen darby ,that everyone had high hopes for and then faded out. {Ed001's Note - I think he has a chance as a defensive midfielder, he just doesn't have the pace for full back.}


 

 

30 Oct 2012 15:11:09
Alex the mouthy Blue from other day-bet was THE Alex! Seemed sure we would'nt win, and proved correct-GOT to be one and same Alex. Accuracy of prediction proved had officials insider knowledge. And knew a winner for us would be ruled out. Proven true cos we aint heard from the gobs ite since!


 

 

30 Oct 2012 14:37:51
Sorry I'm not getting this can't the ref just simply watch a replay on the big screen to make his decision rather than us using millions of pounds on more technology.

Lil Red


Anfield doesn't have one. Drapps


Give it a rest the derby is over and done with now, so time to move on.


Yeah the derbys done, fu**** by another biased or stupid ref(or both), i would love to see instant replay and have dodgy calls looked at and changed if needed, they do it in american football and it works great


 

 

30 Oct 2012 13:54:03
Time for Pepe to go i think Brad jones should stay in goal for the next 5-10 games.


No i think pepe should be number one. Maybe the rest and competition for his place has done him good. We should play jones in the europa league and league cups, and if he performs and pepe doesnt in the league then in comes jones. If pepe doesnt get back to better form by january then assess it then. Jdog


Jones made the dodgy punch that lead to Everton's first goal on Sunday.
Played well against Reading the week before but dont think he took his chance enough and expect to see Pepe back for the Newcastle match.

Jay


^ Agree, this can wait until the summer, the situation may be clearer by then! Ged


 

 

30 Oct 2012 13:46:57
(If I was in charge)
January/Summer:

In:
Gary Hooper £6m
Fernando Torres £18m
Sahin on a permanent £12m
Lewis Holtby £14m
Gaston Ramirez £8m (when Southampton go down)
Jack Butland £8m
James Tomkins £6m

Out:
Carroll £16m (plus the £2m loan fee)
Reina £15m
Carragher retiring to a job on the coaching staff
Spearing £4m
Cole £6m
Downing £7m
Wilson £3m
Pacheco £4m
Doni £2m


Good job your not in charge then eh lad?


That's a good 70m down the drain then.

MIKEY


If I was in charge summer or January:
Ins:
Erikson
Damoia
Sahin
In total: 45-50 million

Outs:
Downing
Carrol
Enrique
Hend
Spearing
Cole
Out total: 35-45 million

I think Johnson has done well at left back and Robinson looks promising...

In addition if carra and gerrard were to leave it wouldn't be a massive loss plus a big reduction on the wage bill...

What you think?


Not a chance that would happen but Id be happy if it did


If I was in charge, during the next 2 windows I'd target:

1 of: Adrian Lopez, Son Heing min, Theo Walcott or Martin Harnik

1 of: Lewis Holtby (free) Nuri Sahin

Neil Taylor of Swansea

Marc Andre Ter Stegen

1 of: Viktor Fischer or Max Clayton


AZ


AZ, thank god your not in charge because Neil Taylor is out for over a year with a broken leg.


If I were in charge i would buy one of those big leather chairs that rotate and wheels around, then i would make everybody call me Boss!!

Evered


People need to get over Torres! He showed no loyalty the way he left us so I would never have him back and has been awful for Chelsea anyway, shame we wasted the fee we got for him because it was a fantastic deal.
Also, isnt Holtby out of contract in the summer so why would we pay £14 million for him?

Jay


Mr Comolli, can you not accept that you won't get your job back?

Rafa's Purple Goatie


If I was in charge I would smoke a big cigar and wear a sheepskin coat.


 

 

30 Oct 2012 13:20:42
Watching the Newcastle game on Sunday we need to keep Ben Arfa and Ba quiet. Which is why it is vital Johnson comes back to handle Ben Arfa and Sterling will need to constantly back track. Also hope Coates has a part to play on Sunday because he is a very talented 'no nonsense' defender, like Skrtel himself. I'll leave the formations up to you guys. AsianRed


How about leaving the formation and who should play to Brendan :)
I do agree with you , the threat will come from Ben Arfa and hope that Allen can keep an eye on him .. I dont trust Johnson on the defence side of things.As for Sterling I would like him to stay by the half way line keeping a couple of their defenders back there busy all the time.
Roy


Ben arfa is the most under rated player in world football. I've said it for nearly a year.


Personally I hope that Pardew is silly enough to make comments about Suarez beforehand. It really does seem like Luis is one tough nut to crack and adversity brings the best out of him. Rightly or wrongly that's the way he is and as Liverpool fans we're gonna have to put up with it. Personally I love what he does, never been a more polarising player for a long time. Keep goin Luis, the proper reds are all with you.
JohnBoy


Reina, Johnson, Agger, Skrtel, Wisdom, Sahin, Allen, Gerrard, Sterling, Assaidi, Suarez.

That would be nice.

Piledriver


 

 

30 Oct 2012 13:31:30
The dysfunctional family turned up the other day. Very PC and Man Utd mad. They chanted the mantra "Suarez very bad tut tut tut!" When my son told them he liked Liverpool.

Cloned zombies believing the media.

The Anti-Purple Nose Party


Man Utd supporters.
Are you surprised?
That's why they are unpopular.
It's not only Liverpool supporters who don't like them.
They are easy to spot. Flared trousers, long nancy hair,bracelet, sports car etc.

Redrod


 

 

30 Oct 2012 12:53:43
a lot of people need to learn that statistics dont always tell the whole story. lots of people mocking gerrard because of what he said about everton hoofing the ball when the statistics show liverpool played a high number of long passes as well. however there is a big difference between an aimless kick into the box for fellaina jelavic etc and an accurate switch ball from one side of the field to another.
NZL_red


Partially agree. However, the stats suggest that everton's passing was more accurate. If they were hoofing into the box and Liverpool were making accuate switch of the ball then the stats should favour Liverpool.

Ultimately, Everton's tactics stopped us playing our passing game. Football's not only about playing to your own strengths but limiting the opposition chance to play to their strengths. This is a big problem for Rodgers. Teams like Stoke (and on Sunday's performance) just need to get physical and deploy the long balls. That prevents us from passing the ball around.


Is that you Dave " Dixie " Prentice ?


 

 

30 Oct 2012 12:30:48
Don't think its fair how many people slate Pepe Reina on here for being complacent or not having competition. To suggest he would give anything less than 100% because his place is 'safe' is quite rude.

Notably his form dipped after the departure of Xavi Valero. If you don't know who he is, he was our Goalkeeper coach, and Pepe Reina put a lot of his progress down to the man.
Torres' form also fell to pieces after we lost Valero, and Torres often said Valero made him a better striker, by teaching him how to 'read' a goal keeper.

Valero was a major loss. Benitez hired some crackers (Segura, Borrell etc) but Valero was right up there!

YNWA! (Adam)


Pepe has been crap for two years. He don't come for crosses, he can't stop any shots he is responsible for most the goals we give away.


So basically reina & torres have goldfish brains and couldn't remember anything he told them after he left?

jj


 

 

30 Oct 2012 12:25:04
when is lucas back fit? {Ed002's Note - A month or so.}


 

 

30 Oct 2012 11:08:02
Following on from what I said last night, apart from the defensive shenanigans, I think we can a lot of heart from Sunday's game.

That was the youngest and most inexperienced Liverpool team in years that played no doubt what is considered the finest, strongest Everton side Moyes' ever assembled.

Five of our starters were debutants in this fixture, Sahin, Allen and teenagers Sterling (17), Suso (18) and Wisdom (19). BR himself was debuting.
We had our 2nd choice keeper in goal and were missing Johnson and Lucas, two of our best players.
We were playing the 4th best team in the league so far... at their own ground, where they ordinarily beat the 'big' teams (City, Utd and Chelsea lost on their last visits there).

So that considered, we didn't do too badly. A point at Goodison, generally, isn't to be frowned upon, anyway.
And that at one stage we were two up, were as dangerous as they were and but for unjust linesman call we could have won it.

BR proved his tactical proficiency. Flexibility is a virtue. Contrary to popular opinion, his changes at HT weren't so much 'capitulation' as pragmatism. He recognized what the problem was and duly reacted by adapting the set up and approach, and it very nearly paid off. Time again we sliced thru them on the break, having also nullified their aerial threat and reduced them to futile passing before our defence.
So s thumbs up, BR.

You know, it's been such pleasure and inspiration watching this team growing the past couple of weeks.
Sure, our position in the log is nothing to smile about. Defo we've seen one too many a defensive clanger. Fair enough, sometimes we can't score to save our lives.

But you know what I've also seen? I've seen an bright, dynamic, honest, dignified, brave young manager 'getting it' and winning the hearts and minds of his players and many a Kopite; I've seen my team play the most wonderful football in a long time; I've marvelled at our most talented batch of youngsters, their fearlessness, drive passion awe-inspiring; I've seen the most enterprising and entertaining footballer to grace the PL in recent years dazzling in our famous Red and hungry, eager and pumped up to do well for our great club; I've seen a tough, fearless London lad, Jonjo, lording it over and sticking it right to the mortal foe and become a Red. s thumbs up, lad.

I've seen lads, young and old, hungry and driven to do well for their manager, club, it's supporters and the (enlightened) people of Liverpool.
I've seen a change in character. Whereas before heads would often drop when we'd
concede/fail to score, now there's spirit and a perseverance, push, push, push, push!

We aren't at all far from being a very good team and challenging at the top, not as far you'd be led to believe, anyway.
For the 'top 4', we are easily just a decent striker away (Llorente/Soldado?)

And then for the 'top 1', a left back, Lucas cover/alternative (Wanyama/M'Vila/Capoue?), Downing's replacement (Mertens/Yarmolenko/Griezmann?)

Four from the above and we'll be good. Quality first XI and equally strong bench.
The conditions are all there for us to become a very good team.
Next summer will be very important for BR.
Must get it right.
This season, tho, I'll be happy with top 6 and extended run in Europa, COC, and FA cup (for the young lads, mainly).
Ed001, what would be acceptable to you this season, mate?

WILLIE {Ed001's Note - I just want to see the kids keep getting chances, I am not worried where we finish this season, next season is when that becomes an issue for me.}


Good post and I agree with Ed001. I think that finishing in a european spot is where we should be looking as it gives the squad and kids a definite chance to play and progress.

My only wish at the moment is that one of Yesil, Morgan or Ngoo should be getting a five or ten minute cameo in premiership games just to get them used to it. Should the worst happen and Suarez gets injured, he will be missing soon because of suspension owing to stupid yellow cards anyway, the kids have no PL experience.

The capital cup and Europa League are good for them to play in but I always think that they don't quite prepare a player for the tension of a league match, far more pressure and at some point soon at least one of them will have to play.

I just believe that it is better to give them as much experience as soon as possible rather than throw them in at the deep end and expect too much of them. I know that we needed Suarez right until the final whistle on Sunday but he is going to get sent off soon for two bookable offences for the way he acts. It would be better for all parties if he gets subbed after a booking for dissent just to show to him that if you keep mouthing off to the ref then you are coming off before you are sent off.
McB


Good post there, the doommongers should have a read.
I have enjoyed watching Liverpool this season more than I have for a while now.
It's great to watch a team heading places with a real long term plan and watching the pieces fall into place.
I agree completely in that we need a top striker, cover for Lucas and a new left back. Hopefully we will get the right ones in jan and the summer.
Like ed001 says it doesn't matter where we finish this year as long as we bed in the players we wish to take forward into the future with us, the team is starting to play the type of football we have all been calling for for years, we are producing some fantastic talent from the accedemy, we need a bit of luck with our next 3 signings but once they are here it will all fall into place. 4th place is an achievable target next year. We will be challenging for the title in a couple of seasons after that. I don't think any of the other teams have a system in place that can compete long term with us on the field. Other teams have more money but who can compete with a team where 50% of it's players are from the accedemy and have a telepathic understanding with each other from playing together for so long? You can't buy that.

MIKEY


 

 

30 Oct 2012 10:51:51
Just noticed Suarez has 4 yellow cards now in the league, 1 more and he's suspended for 1 game, not good news considering we don't really have any replacements!

Rocky


A player like him will always pick up cards you just need to look at the one game ban as an acceptable loss.
He could clean up his act a little bit but I doubt he will.
Anyway a 1 game ban is better than a 9 game ban so it's an aprovement on last year.

MIKEY


But still,we have, Yesil,sinclair,but gerrard up top and allen behind with sahin and shelvey.

No problem. ;-)


He will get one before the Chelsea game, it is written in the script.


Come on, i know we have Yesil, Sinclair, also Morgan but no real senior striker of Suarez's quality anyway...
We have some great youngsters in the squad but a team without Suarez looks fairly basic if i'm honest. Attacking options are better than last season with Assaidi, Sterling, Downing, Pacheco, Yesil, Suso, Sahin, Shelvey and Gerrard all able to play in the front 3 which gives us plenty of alternatives, i just think we'll struggle with Suarez out of the side.
If i was to pick a starting line-up without Suarez it'd be this:

-Reina-
Johnson-Skrtel-Agger-Enrique
-Allen-Sahin-
Suso-Gerrard-Sterling
-Shelvey-

Rocky


To the last poster:
There is no age limit on scoring goals you just need to hit in between the 3 posts and make sure the keeper doesn't get it.
An 8 year old would get goals if he happened to be in the right place at the right time.
Yesil and the like might be young but with strikers it's all about the movement and being in the right place when the ball is played to you.

MIKEY


 

 

30 Oct 2012 10:40:38
If the same 4th official video evidence is used as in cricket and rugby. Old whisky-nose couldn't play his games.
Manu wouldn't have scored a 3rd. Torres wouln't have been sent off and the whole Clattenburg thing would be history.
Suarez's goal would have stood.
Whisky-nose would be hiding from the cameras again. Which is a bonus.


All this is true and I still don't ever want to see video technology of any kind introduced into football.

Chris in Tamworth


Yeah spot on.. feels like Im watching WWF lately.. Enoughs enough.. the more people who admit to themselves that something fishy is goin on the quicker video evidence will be brought in.. Man Utd wouldn't even get in top 4 if they weren't helped every week. Albino Penguin


I agree with you but we need major figures in the game to say it loud and in public that man u get favourable decisions all the time worth at least 5 pts every year [ at least maybe 8 plus ] , rafa benitez did and was portrayed as an rafa rant , ok it was a bit of a rant but the truth was in there . united get all the breaks . ferguson is very clever at playing the game and people need to call it as it is , sky spts wont but ex players here and major figures in game need to say it very publicly .


30 Oct 2012 12:59:19
omg will you deluded fools stop goin on, united get decisions against them too but jus not highlighted wen it happens, other teams get outrageous decisions go there way but its hardly mentioned, if it was johny evans hu had done the karate kick that torres did and never got sent off that would be the only talkin point. ivanovic had to go although young probably went down easily but he was entitled to. torres decision was a bad one but from the refs view it did luk like he faked a dive and seeing as he shouldve alredi gone. not to mention the numerous times we have been to the bridge and been conned out of it by the ref but did we cry conspiracy...no we got on with it...i was shocked myself wen suarez goal was disallowed but what the heck has that got to do with us? why has a game that we wernt playin in our fault? i spose its any excuse tho other than admitting you are a midtable team and you only have yourselves and failed managers to blame


If every little incident was 100% correct then we would have very little to talk about between games.
I half support a video ref but I would rather the current refs where better and had more support than they currently do.
I would support goal line technology and an appeal system where goals can be given if wrongly chalked off for offside like suarez the other night but as long as it's instantly done. I don't want to see a video ref for every throw in, tackle etc.

MIKEY


Video would take 5pts off [ min ] utds total every year , how many titles have they won by 5 pts or more , it could impact on us but i would suggest in a positive way , that said even with a 5 pt swing we would not win a prem title but at least it would cut out the blatant bias towards utd [ mostly at old trafford ] but now spreading to away grounds ie [ shelvey red card and suarez no peno tackle by john evans in same game and now daylight robbery at stamford bridge ] , video ref would only hurt utd and alex f and the rest of us would only profit from it , how many times have we gone to old trafford and got knobbled by a dodgy red card or a dodgy peno lads , we might not win every game but it would even it up to a level playing field something that old whiskey nose would not like .


You'd think in a world where surveillance and cameras are dominant they'd just love to use em to create a fair playing field for the biggest sport in the world?.. NOPE Something fishy is going on! Albino Penguin


 

 

30 Oct 2012 10:00:24
Stevie, keep your comments to yourself. You are a bigger person than that. We got a good draw on Sunday (in fact we should have won) so dont spoil it. (In fact if you look at the table the Blues are above us - but keep it quiet.)


I suggest you look at the years that Stevie has kept quiet and dignified and consider why has he actually come out and said this? Listen, as a captain he has listened to opposition managers criticise our players and has probably has enough - just like the rest of us. He's said it for a reason, mate, and Mr Moyers did himself no favours. Anyway, he's defending the kids as he should be doing.

DaveyBootle


Nothing wrong with a bit of banter.. Remember Shanks comments? Keep it up Stevie G


I personally have not been happy with Gerrard when it come to the support of your team. There was the man utd incident when they won at anfield and Erva is was celebrating very close to Suarez I saw pepe,Skertel,and king Kuyt coming to rscue Suarez but Gerrard was no where near,. Let him support the team this time. I don't want to be Mr nice guy I don't want anyone to bully my team. I we like Mr nice guy then get Hodgson at LFC.
Red 316


 

 

30 Oct 2012 10:45:32
Should Liverpool consider playing three at the back as they did in the second half against Stoke (Everton)? Personally I thought we had a better shape about us and having Coates in the middle gives us a real presence. The wing backs can push up and support our attack (ideal for the likes of Johnson and Enrique) and give our midfield/forwards more options, plus we look more compact. I also like the idea of Sterling moving further forward with either Suarez or Sterling playing behind the forward in a kind of free role. I still fear 4-3-3 leaves us exposed to the counter attack. Any thoughts..?


I agree until we get a top striker that would be the way to play especially against good teams but if its a park the bus team. up front an extra bit of quality to break teams down is needed.Tommy Irish Red


 

 

30 Oct 2012 09:59:28
In an incredibly tactless, and poorly time move, the BBC will be having Kelvin McKenzie as a guest this coming friday on "Would I Lie to You".
Disgusts me that the BBC continue to employ him and even more disgusted by the poor timing and choice of program to put him on.
You can register your opposition to this as I have here http://t.co/xAklFOsj
#jft96 #neverbuythesun


Signed

cozinoz


What will that achieve? The truth is out, let that swallow him up. Anyway, we can't dictate to an apparently 'impartial' organisation. Where will it end?

DaveyBootle


Well look at the 70's and 80's decisions BBC made-shameless


 

 

30 Oct 2012 09:28:07
Ed did jan Molby say we have around 40 million to spend in January. I assume that would be if we move hend cole downing carrol.

Thanks. {Ed001's Note - apparently he did, though I have no idea where he plucked that figure from.}


I watched the You're on LFCTV programme last night and he didn't say that.. Claire Rourke the presenter asked him a question which basically said ' it's been reported that liverpool have 40m to spend in january, If that's true who would you be looking at' He then said he would look to sign two strikers, Huntelaar and Son from Hamburg.

Adam


 

 

30 Oct 2012 09:11:18
Is any action being taken, re. the coin throwing Ed? {Ed001's Note - it is being investigated first, not sure how long the FA will take to come to a decision though, they seem to act slow.}


Did anything actually happen following the coin throwing at Goodison last season or was it brushed under the carpet or are they still investigating it?


Lol poster above yea still investigating


 

 

30 Oct 2012 09:10:03
TECHNOLOGY - It's time that the 'Powers that be' realised that times have changed. It would have taken less than a minute on Sunday to show that mu's goal was offside and Liverpool's onside. By the way, I would still like to know why it took the linesman so long to raise his flag.
CHEATING - There are still 'fans' going on about Suarez diving. Apart from that silly effort against stoke I have always said that he does not dive - he goes down to easily. The difference between the likes of Young,Bale and Larssen is that they go down without there being any contact. Suarez goes down with any foul against him and why not? The fact is that in the second case it is the player who commits the foul who is cheating. You can argue all you will but the fact is there is nothing within the Laws of Football that permits one player to commit a foul on any other. There is one player (KD) who has received over 100 yellow cards and committed over 900 fouls and still gets away with it without any sanction from the PL. He has only received 3 reds (2 straight) which shows how cynical he is. These are the real cheats in football!
Ben Terug


Mate your blind


30 Oct 2012 15:58:07
I don't have a blind - I have curtains


 

 

30 Oct 2012 09:09:48
Get in Stevie lad.All the mouthing before game from them of course-AGAIN! Staff and fans alike. Said how it is! Well done, about time someone shut them up


Mr Gerrard you have just made a complete fool of yourself and here is why, Everton have scored a lot more goals than liverpool in the league yes or no - everton have scored more goals from playing the ball along the ground than liverpool yes or no - did everton score there 2 goals from long balls on sunday yes or no - as every other pundit manager ex players who are on motd { even hanson } said Everton play very good football so Mr sulky Gerrard what you say makes know sense but know dought your supporters will believe everything you say as usual. Terry blue {Ed001's Note - you do realise that your stats are just nonsense right? Liverpool have scored less from open play because they have missed more, not because they haven't created. Only a fool takes stats at face value.}


Terry the deluded tool blue. and judging from agrees on OUR forumn he keeps clicking agree with himself. Or his other obsessed bout us Blue cronies on here


I feel sorry for Terry, so few posts to agree with on a small club's forum.


 

 

30 Oct 2012 07:28:36
Just a bit curious maybe, but what if Silva, Mata and/or Kagawa become available for the right price, will we try to sign any of them, and who will u prefer?
2. Why didn't we take Lukaku on loan in the summer? Shd have improved us.

Redhat Linux.


Silva, 30M

Mata 30M

Kagawa 10M

we could not buy Dempsey for 4M

So what chance the above?


No point in asking this question mate, none will become available. You've picked 4 names that are integral to each team whether that be now or in the future. Kagawa has only just joined United, Mata is one of the best players in Chelsea's team, Silva was instrumental for City last season (well more the first half but they'd be daft to let him go) and Lukaku will be Chelsea's next Drogba. All those teams are also above us in the table and can offer larger wages. Not being defeatist, just realistic.

JFT 96

JP


 

 

30 Oct 2012 05:05:56
I see many posters say we need cover for Lucas, I disagree, well we don't need cover for him in January atleast. He'll be back in a couple of weeks and the chances of him getting injured again aren't that large. In addition to this, we have Allen, Sahin nd even Gerrard who can do a job there and don't forget about young Coady too.

Garth


Bet he aint the same. hope wrong, fact remains most arent after that injury. Get niggle injuries galore cos bodies compensating, bet thats why their saying about cover


 

 

30 Oct 2012 02:49:28
Hi eds, just wondering, what happened to Doni, did he left the club? {Ed001's Note - he is away.}


HE IS BACK!!!
Dm2012


 

 

30 Oct 2012 01:36:14
Over the past few months Jose Enrique has been given quite a lot of stick, and in some cases rightly so. After a very good start to his LFC career, it looked like we found an absolute gem for £6m.

He was solid, consistent and pacey. However, after a few weeks, he started to become very inconsistent and started to make some silly mistakes. This bad run of form seemed to continue to pretty much the end of the season. With Johnson playing so well at Left Back, it was starting to look like Enriques career at LFC might be in jeopardy.

However, since coming back from his recent injury, I believe we are starting to see the old Enrique back. In the game against Anzi where he made a substitute appearance in a more attacking left side role, he created about 5 clear cut chances in the limited time that he was on the pitch. And in the match against Everton, I felt as if he had a very good game; especially considering the amount of time he was out injured for. He created the first goal, and also put Sterling through on a 1-on-1 which he should have scored. Apart from switching off for the Naismith goal, I was very pleased with his performance.

So hopefully these positive signs will keep coming. Then we can shift Johnson back to Right Back and with a back four of Johnson-Skrtel-Agger-Enrique, we should be keeping many clean sheets this season.

Number11x


Couldn't agree more mate.


He's not good enough. A liability.

DaveyBootle


 

 

30 Oct 2012 01:07:03
Just curious why is Robinson not being played we have seen previously that he can handle the premiership and I do rate him over Enrique?

Kind regards

The southern red


Enrique should return as our first choice left back (EPL games) and Robinson as second choice (domestic cups and Europa league). Same respectively for Johnson and wisdom.


Robbo is always injured and he's out of favor with the Boss


Agree 100%.Every time i see Robinson play he never seems fazed by playing at Premier League level.Always assured on the ball and looks more solid defensively than Enrique.


Do you rate him over wisdom ?
derryred


Hard to say as I don't see wisdom as a long term full back, honestly I think Robinson is a better full back, it's just we have more cover on the right than on the left.
On another note I am looking forward to seeing Ngoo and adorjan get their chance they seem to be playing well convo distantly week in week out.

Kind regards

The southern red


 

 

29 Oct 2012 23:05:01
hi eds and fans, basically and shortly the FA should have an overhaul, the goal was legitimate, and the amount of stick that Suarez gets al the time from fans and managers alike is becoming silly. People are continuously targetting him and it is becoming pretty boring. He is a very strong person to take all this rubbish thrown at him all the time and to perform for us week in week out well, I simply support him a lot.
Yes he has antics but he comes from a different part of the world, and is learning and he gets sang about every game we have played in anfield and in away games.
We will get better as the season will go along it is still early days, BR is ontop of everything. I agree with ed052 that Suarez's tackle on distin was accident.
Support the team and stop moaning, let us all pull in the same direction. eds what do you think?
hibsylfc


30 Oct 2012 10:03:03
I have to disagree. Suarez will never change. The tackle he done on Sunday was awful and sly, he knew what he was doing. He dives too much and until we get rid of him he will be hated throughout the Premiership - and rightly so. GET RID ASAP.


Funny how former players of liverpool are saying suarez should of got sent off but as usual deluded red fans plus worst ed ever say different hmmm


100% agree mate

cozinoz


100% agree with the original poster. Not the bitter replies

cozinoz


Bitters and the rest of the world don't like Suarez because he plays for us if he was there player and was diving or cheating there they would have been the most supportive of him. but Suarez belongs to us and we love him dive or no dive.
Red 316


It's pretty obvious which replies are from Evertonians, sad lot.


 

 

 
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