Liverpool Banter Archive September 30 2016

30 Sep 2016 22:03:46
Well done Benteke, taking points off our rivals! He has undoubted talent and it's nice to see him using that but it's just a pity he couldn't cut it at Liverpool.

30 Sep 2016 22:46:35
Laleaving the chasing pack behind while closing gap at top.

Hope all goes to plan tomorrow :)

30 Sep 2016 23:08:02
Benteke handled himself brilliantly when leaving LFC.

No spite invoved.

Very classy

He's scoring well now as palace play to his strengths.

Good luck to him but I hope he doesn't come back to haunt us.

01 Oct 2016 00:36:40
Always said he was a good player, just not for us. I wish him the best, aslong as it's not against Liverpool I hope he smashes them in as much as possible. very profiessional man from what I know which isn't a lot but he seems to be a sound bloke.

30 Sep 2016 21:54:27
Blues drawing is a Good incentive for tmoro for us, come on you mighty reds!

30 Sep 2016 20:09:05
Good evening all from Cyprus We are coming to the WBA game at Anfield on 22 Oct with our sons and are very excited. We have 6 tickets in the Carlsberg dugout. We need one more for another family member. Are there any dugout ticket holders who are willing to sell one ticket for the game . Eds hope we are allowed to post such request :)

30 Sep 2016 22:52:36
Good luck. Wish I still lived in Cyprus, I've lived there a total of 5 years at Dhekelia, near Larnaca.

Baz.

01 Oct 2016 05:38:10
Tks Baz- indeed we live in a blessed place :) ) )

30 Sep 2016 17:34:36
Why do people abuse the Eds? Just why, jt perplexes me. They give up time to provide us with info we can't get anywhere else, which is normally accurate aswell.

30 Sep 2016 18:20:43
Because Roz the Ed's don't go along with/ tell them what they want to hear mate.

30 Sep 2016 17:56:41
Just Trolls mate. I wouldn't put up with the stick the Eds take if I was paid for it. Let alone for free.

Although I don't like this Ed025 lad. He's a cheeky one! I think Harry should get him a set of shackles and put him in the dungeon with Ed001 ;)

{Ed025's Note - if they were pink and fluffy i would be all for that MK .. :)

30 Sep 2016 19:06:45
Now I'm intrigued.

I mean, errr, worried? Yeah, worried!

30 Sep 2016 19:15:41
If we didn't have people abusing the eds I would never have known what a glifnard is to be fair haha.

30 Sep 2016 14:19:35
Ed one

I saw you listed the best managers below and whilst I don't agree nor dis-agree with your list as I know very little about most of them, I was wondering what in your view makes for a great manager. In my view a lot of people get confused about what a great manager does, With Klopp for example I would not call him a manager but a leader he doesn't sit in his comfy chair ordering people about he leads by example working harder and longer than anybody else for the benefit of Liverpool football club. He also is intelligent enough to share his responsibility by surrounding himself with coaches who excel in certain areas of the game, Tactical specialist, opporsition specialist, scouting specialist and so on. Plus everyone right down to the cleaners and tea ladies feel there part of the success of the club. I also feel he never makes anyone feel dropped of benched for games just makes others feel selected and those who are not feel opportunity to be so next game. Just my opinion on what a great manager is.

30 Sep 2016 15:00:51
You don't think Moreno feels dropped?

30 Sep 2016 15:52:06
no annie I think klopp has made him feel taken out of the firing line from complete and constant criticism to work on his game in training so he can try come back a better more mature player. let's not forget Moreno is seen as a flop because of the price we paid but he is still a young player who is still to reach an age were you would expect better from him, maybe it won't happen for him but Moreno was the butt of all jokes and klopp has taken him away from that, for me that is a clever thing to do. there is still a future for Moreno here if he can earn it, so no not dropped at all and more focus on helping him.

{Ed025's Note - he does have a future jay..i hear Mcdonalds are hiring.. :)

30 Sep 2016 15:58:16
I feel Klopp is a fantastic manager, results are proving that, early or not. but yes as Annie has said. Moreno dropped (rightly so), sakho. (again rightly so due to his attitude), ings? who in my opinion should be given a chance but there you go. Klopp is the manager, he has a lot more knowledge then I do so ill go along with it. I think Klopp is a perfect example of a good manager.

30 Sep 2016 18:10:47
If Moreno feels dropped, that is his fault and no one else`s, Annie. The guy is awful and lacks any form of football intelligence. I understand why Klopp is doing what he`s doing in public and not slating him but defending him. Why? because he knows that some time this season he may well need Moreno to step in and play the game of his life to help us win hence, he is keeping him motivated and protecting him which IMO, is excellent man-management. But don`t get it twisted. Behind the smiles, the bro-hugs and his infectious demeanor, lies a strict and ruthless disciplinarian who does take crap from nobody, period. If you don`t believe me, go ask Sahko, Balo, Benteke and the others at BVB or Mainz who have felt his wrath.

01 Oct 2016 00:17:00
Moreno played at leftback almost constantly for a couple of seasons and then what? He was asked to relax for a while, take it easy? Work on his game, let Milner look after his spot for a bit even though he's a midfielder, enjoy being protected from the mean critics by sitting on the bench? He's been DROPPED.
Im not criticising Klopp and i don't rate Moreno highly but he's not been given a cuddle and taken out of the firing line imo. He made too many major mistakes in recent games and he has been dropped. Its now up to him to improve his game and usurp the best leftback we've had in recent years.

01 Oct 2016 00:45:04
Yes Annie I agree, it's as simple as it gets he has been dropped lol nevermind sugar coating it. he got dropped and deserved to be. thank god!

With us not signing a new lb in the summer i was worried but now seeing milner playing how he's playing i'm very surprised to say the least. see. perfect management in my opinion, he could've got a new LB. he knew what he was doing.

30 Sep 2016 13:03:16
Ed, is Alexander Arnold highly rated and expected to be in and around the first team in the near future?

Cheers.

{Ed001's Note - he is excepted to push for a squad place at least.}

30 Sep 2016 14:27:16
Ed if clyne gets injured . May he get a chance or Milner to rb.

30 Sep 2016 14:47:43
He's good enough that we don't need to buy someone to cover clyne. Clyne injured throw Alex in.

30 Sep 2016 14:27:16
Ed if clyne gets injured . May he get a chance or Milner to rb.

{Ed001's Note - it could be a possibility. Hard to say as it really depends on the opponents and how so many others are doing at the time.}

30 Sep 2016 09:53:38
Ed001
Who are the top 5 mangaers currently.

{Ed001's Note - Simeone, Klopp, Mourinho, Bielsa and I can't think of another off the top of my head, which is what has taken so long to reply as I couldn't think of a 5th, even though I have said it recently.}

30 Sep 2016 11:59:14
No pep Ed.

{Ed001's Note - nope, his teams get gradually worse over time as he coaches them, that is not the sign of a top coach. Also he overcomplicates the game. It should be simple at its best.}

30 Sep 2016 12:18:02
Ancelotti, ed01?

{Ed001's Note - he has failed to lift as many league titles as he should have to be classed as a great. In my opinion.}

30 Sep 2016 12:47:08
Ranieri?

{Ed001's Note - I like him, but not sure he can be classed as a top 5 after his time in international management.}

30 Sep 2016 12:50:30
Perhaps Pocettino? Wenger?

{Ed001's Note - Pochettino has not proven himself yet. Wenger has struggled for too long.}

30 Sep 2016 12:52:04
Allegri? Tuchel? Lucho?

{Ed001's Note - Allegri is the one I was thinking of. Tuchel has not impressed me at all. He is a poor man's Klopp. I am not sure who you mean by Lucho?}

30 Sep 2016 13:06:47
So do mourinhos ed? How come you selected him?

{Ed001's Note - no they don't. Jose usually leaves when they are at their peak. His last job was a struggle, but he has had a lot going on off the field, to me he looks like he needs a long break.}

30 Sep 2016 13:27:42
Ancelloti?

{Ed001's Note - no mate, missed out on far too many league titles with the best team in it.}

30 Sep 2016 13:31:00
Ancelotti ed?
Up the pool.

{Ed001's Note - see above.}

30 Sep 2016 13:42:16
Unai Emery? Low? Koeman? Sarri?

{Ed001's Note - Emery is a good shout, he has done well. Loew has not proven himself other than as manager of the team with by far the best players, in Germany. Koeman, not even close, not even good, in my opinion, too much of an arse. Sarri I do not know enough about, prior to Napoli, to judge him.}

30 Sep 2016 13:59:12
Sampaoli?

{Ed025's Note - ED01 knows its koeman back, but his red tinted glasses wont let him actually say it.. :)

30 Sep 2016 14:21:39
I love ed1s reply above, can't be more correct.

30 Sep 2016 15:49:45
ed001 how about Roger Schmidt?

30 Sep 2016 13:50:26
Do you think Emery may come to the PL one day in the future Ed?

{Ed001's Note - probably. I hope so, he certainly was keen at one time, not sure about now.}

30 Sep 2016 14:08:02
Sorry ed, meant Luis Enrique of Barcelona. Also, couldn't you argue the same about how Bielsa should have won more than he has?

{Ed001's Note - meh, hard to judge Enrique, he did nothing to suggest he was special before Barca. Bielsa has never had the best teams like Ancelotti has done repeatedly. Ancelotti is just too nice for me.}

30 Sep 2016 15:49:45
ed001 how about Roger Schmidt?

{Ed001's Note - I don't know enough about him to consider him a top 5 manager in the world.}

30 Sep 2016 16:40:26
How about Jorge Jesus eds?

{Ed001's Note - he needs to win outside of Portugal. Or do a bit better in Europe.}

30 Sep 2016 17:29:51
What about international managers?
I think Jochim Löwe has done a good job despite his personal hygiene issues 😁.

{Ed001's Note - yes but he is managing Germany, who are much better than the rest, so he needs to prove himself elsewhere.}

30 Sep 2016 18:22:23
Ed regarding Leow, he built that German team from scratch since 2006, bringing through all the great players we now know of today so shouldn`t he get the credit for having the best players if he is the one that brought them through? I do agree that he needs to prove himself as a manager of a club or elsewhere as well because he was a failed manager at Hamburg where he got the sack.

{Ed001's Note - did he bring them through or did the club academies not do that?}

30 Sep 2016 20:17:24
I see your point, Ed. I meant that he brought them through the national team through the national team youth ranks when many may not have deemed it fit. I agree that Germans have revamped their club and national team youth systems since 2008 which has kept the assembly line coming with talented players. In 2009, Khedira, Neuer, Boateng, Ozil, Muller and Kroos all came from the U21 team that beat England in the 2300p Euro U21 final (players in that England team have disappeared from the football landscape, in contrast due to poor professional choices and bad management) . After that, these boys all went on to start for Germany at the 2010 World cup. That is to Leow`s credit, IMO for having the gonads to play them and they did not disappoint. 4 years later, these same players won the World cup. I just think he should get credit for actually giving these boys a chance? Just asking.

30 Sep 2016 21:46:13
Why not give it to Gary Neville he talks rubbish 24/ 7 the press would love him 😀

And the irritating Michael Owen as his mini me

I'd pay to see that

Maybe because Of my Irish roots I'm saying that, well actually I am but OMG anything could happen these days.

30 Sep 2016 07:30:39
If you look back to last week I did a prediction post and said Liverpool would beat Hull 5-1 (wish to hell I'd of put a bet on)

Let's try again.

Predictions for tomorrow?

I think it'll be our first clean sheet. I think we'll hammer them 4-0!

So glad to know Karius will be starting as well.

30 Sep 2016 08:33:47
Swans 1 Liverpool 3.

30 Sep 2016 09:21:50
Think it will be a tough game, Swansea have played better than their points.

We love leaking a goal so 3-1/ 2-1.

2nd game of weekend so let's win it and close the gap at the top.

30 Sep 2016 09:29:52
im going for a 2-0 first clean sheet i hope!

30 Sep 2016 09:50:46
Two nil but any win will do
Up the pool.

30 Sep 2016 09:54:10
Mattaldinho your not wrong mate I get what your saying, they aren't doing bad at all, but I just think on our current form, we'll hammer them. well I certainly hope so anyway! they've been playing good - we've been playing incredible.

To be fair I'm predicting 4-0 but i'd be happy with 1-0. a wins a win, get them 3 points!

30 Sep 2016 10:08:50
5-0 Pool.

30 Sep 2016 11:12:46
2-1, expecting a tight one away but a Mane and Firmino goal to see it home.

30 Sep 2016 11:31:25
3-0 to Liverpool.

30 Sep 2016 12:00:45
3-1 Lallana first goal I'm going for!

30 Sep 2016 12:26:59
This will be a very very tough game, they've been playing quite well just results have been going against them, I'll take a scruffy 1-0 right now. Don't care about performance, this and the next game are solely about points gained for me.

30 Sep 2016 14:22:57
I agree waro. 1 nil will be fine.

30 Sep 2016 15:22:28
We're scoring goals for fun at the minute, 3-0.

30 Sep 2016 19:44:29
Swansea is a very difficult place to play as we have only won there once in six tries so I don`t get why people think we will just turn up and whip them. It will be a tough game for us especially with the manager`s job on the line, the players will be up for it. Let`s just hope that we can weather the first 20 minutes and move on from there.