Liverpool Banter Archive March 31 2011

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31 Mar 2011 23:52:53
With the recent article on the BBC Sport website with Gavin Laws of Standard Chartered and egging on about signing Asia's stars, do you think a move could be on with Honda, for example?

31 Mar 2011 23:25:12
Im beginning to just lose my patience with LFC. Im 56, I have been supporting my team for 36 years and this with the houlier reign has been the worst few seasons for liverpool in their history. We have new owners, a manager and director of football and new players However'
The owners are not sugar daddys and although I like the way they are going with the club, they have hired damien cammolli who is an amateur, kenny dalglish who has been my hero as a child but up until the end of the season is NOT the man to take Liverpool foward for the future, Is a great man manager but not a great Manager and is not proven at buying players. We have bought andy caroll is an Average player, good in the air and that's what we have payed for 35million, yes he will improve but not Real LFC standard of the early 80's. Suarez looks a very good player and will be our only acceptable buy in my opinion. Young, Adam, Jarvis are all definates for coming and none are In the (YOUNG, TALENTED, TECHNICAL CATEGORY) WHAT LIVERPOOL STANDARD IS ABOUT. We are a huge club and are looking at players like young and jarvis as forst options for the wings because they are cheap and english BUT NOT GOOD ENOUGH as you will see next season. I never trusted benetiz and houlier because of their playing stlyes and player choices but even THOUGH dalglish wants to play good attacking football, against the BETTER teams how can players such as Lucas, jarvis, carrol and young enable us to do that when they are not of the technical standard. Lfc has no great years to come with cammolli and dalglsih in charge because as we found out over the last few years, IT ALL COMES DOWN TO THE PLAYERS'

Experienced 1
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You bang on about players not being good enough in comparison to the teams of the 80's and yet you also slate King Kenny as a manager? Are you a bit simple?

By the way, when Kenny was buying players that were not high profile then (Aldo/ Houghton - Oxford Barnes - Watford etc. .), were you moaning then? Probably.

Get a divorce if its that bad mate.
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I WAS BORN A RED I NEVER WAITED 19 YEARS TO BECOME ONE SO STOP YOUR MOANING AND GIVE KING KENNY AND THE PLAYERS HE BUYS A CHANCE HE S DONE IT BEFORE AND HOPEFULY HE CAN DO IT AGAIN . . . JOE THE RED . . .Y, N, W, A,

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31 Mar 2011 23:27:25
31 Mar 2011 21:34:19
Im beginning to just lose my patience with LFC. Im 56, I have been supporting my team for 36 years and this with the houlier reign has been the worst few seasons for liverpool in their history. We have new owners, a manager and director of football and new players However'
The owners are not sugar daddys and although I like the way they are going with the club, they have hired damien cammolli who is an amateur, kenny dalglish who has been my hero as a child but up until the end of the season is NOT the man to take Liverpool foward for the future, Is a great man manager but not a great Manager and is not proven at buying players. We have bought andy caroll is an Average player, good in the air and that's what we have payed for 35million, yes he will improve but not Real LFC standard of the early 80's. Suarez looks a very good player and will be our only acceptable buy in my opinion. Young, Adam, Jarvis are all definates for coming and none are In the (YOUNG, TALENTED, TECHNICAL CATEGORY) WHAT LIVERPOOL STANDARD IS ABOUT. We are a huge club and are looking at players like young and jarvis as forst options for the wings because they are cheap and english BUT NOT GOOD ENOUGH as you will see next season. I never trusted benetiz and houlier because of their playing stlyes and player choices but even THOUGH dalglish wants to play good attacking football, against the BETTER teams how can players such as Lucas, jarvis, carrol and young enable us to do that when they are not of the technical standard. Lfc has no great years to come with cammolli and dalglsih in charge because as we found out over the last few years, IT ALL COMES DOWN TO THE PLAYERS'

Experienced 1

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I think we need to wait and see. . NESV have not had a chance to do much. . 1 transfer window which is never the best one for business. .

Let's see what happens in the summer. .

On Dalglish. . we are now 3rd in the premiership form guide based on last 6 home and away games. I'll take that after our start to the season.

31 Mar 2011 23:29:29
7 coming in 9 going out

baines isn't coming in, this ones got about as much chance as messi coming in, they won't sell to us, end of,

van der wiel in from ajax
pazzini in from sampdoria
adam in from blackpool
bystrov from zenit
elano from galatasaray
and a few young british lads

fringe players like cole and poulsen out

31 Mar 2011 23:36:07
Did soto sign a new contract a few months back pls post

31 Mar 2011 23:38:11
Liverpool Transfers
Buy;
Michel Bastos=17m. - ( Lucas can convince him to come to Liverpool )
Arda Turan=15m.
Adam Johnsan=15m.
Javi Martinez=16m.
Gary Cahill=15m.
Sergio Canales=6m.
Bojan Krkic=14m.
Ibrahim Affelay=10m.

Out;
Ngog, Poulsen, Jovanovic. .ect

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Reina. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. Johnsan. . . . . . Cahill. . . . . Agger. . . . . . . .Bastos.
. . . . . . . . . . . . Gerrard. . Martinez. . . . . . . . . . . . .
. . .A.Johnsan. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Turan. . . . .
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Suarez. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Carroll. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

31 Mar 2011 23:02:43
Does anybody know if we are interested in santi carzola ?

31 Mar 2011 23:09:21
"My Ideal Transfer XI:

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Santon- - - - -Richards- - - Sakho- - - - - -Baines
- - - - - - - - Martinez- - - -M'Vila- - - - - - - - -
- - - -A. Johnson- - - Sissoko- - - - Hulk- - - - -
- - - - - - - - - - - - Benzema- - - - - - - - - - - -"

I assume this is a joke?
This makes me sick.
This could be any team. Certainly not Liverpool.

31 Mar 2011 22:57:30
My Ideal Transfer XI:

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Santon- - - - -Richards- - - Sakho- - - - - -Baines
- - - - - - - - Martinez- - - -M'Vila- - - - - - - - -
- - - -A. Johnson- - - Sissoko- - - - Hulk- - - - -
- - - - - - - - - - - - Benzema- - - - - - - - - - - -
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where is Suarez?
Gerrard? ?

31 Mar 2011 22:52:12
Anyone else share my concerns for this position? ?

Benega, sanchez, pastore, martinez all would do this for me. . don't see adam as the answer in all honesty.
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I don't see why we need another CM at all mate. Next year if we play 4-4-2 then you will probably see Stevie drop back as the holding midfielder and Mireless roaming forward. Playing 4-4-2 means there is no room for Lucas with us playing 2 wide men. Dosn't mean to say i wouldn't mind us bringing in someone like Benega, Defour or Pastore (wishful thinking).

I'm with you about Adam i just don't see the need for him. Like i said Stevie could drop back and spread the ball about, 10 times better than Adam could imo.

Blair Mayne YNWA

31 Mar 2011 22:37:54
Ed do you think we have a chance to get sahin and how much do you think he would cost thanks eds {Ed002's Note - I doubt that he would be looking to leave Dortmund this summer. His value would be late teens I would guess.}

31 Mar 2011 22:38:34
31 Mar 2011 20:23:11
Lucas to score or make an assist on Sat vs west brom

ha lmaof are you mental in the face, probably an assist to brom from a free kick out side the box.

31 Mar 2011 22:39:37
Ye no Fe*k all lad, and your failure to answer the question yourself without quoting Commoli shows it! And for the record I don't HATE LUCAS, not once have I booed him at the match or ironically cheered if he was subbed, I think he is an average/ poor player and not of the required standard for LIVERPOOL! But feel I have to make my views on the player knowin on this site because people like you MR EM insinuate a lack of footballing knowledge because I have a differing opinion to you and all the other Lucas fans, you rate him that's fine, I don't and the last time I checked we live in England which is a democracy
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''and your failure to answer the question yourself without quoting Comolli?'' How the hell would i know who is interesting in one of Liverpools players? What's up do you not like being proved wrong?

And you do have a lack of footballing knowledge, the fact that you completely refuse to answer my question only goes to prove it, why not try to prove me wrong?

I will try once more, you judge a player based on the teams that want them, well NOBODY WANTED SUAREZ, so is he good or not? To prove you are knowledgable and that your idiology is correct, Suarez must be rubbish, if he isn't then your theory is wrong and you, as you put it ''Ye no Fe*k all lad''

MR EM

31 Mar 2011 22:41:17
31 Mar 2011 20:06:30
Just a couple of questions for the LUCAS LOVERS! If we made it known he was available for transfer how many top prem/ european teams would be in for him? and roughly how much money would he go for? And if your not going to answer both questions honestly then don't bother replying to this post

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And if your intention was to highlight your case, whay then say don't bother to post without both, either is valid - fool.

Lucas would find his way into the majority of top half ELP teams, as such has value in the region on 9.5 - 13.5m depending on add ons. .

s**te then, lets bring on Noddy! LMFAO! !

31 Mar 2011 22:42:25
Please post ed.
Does the fact that the Standard Chartered boss has tonight come out saying that Liverpool must sign an Asian player re-ignite the Honda interest?
Cheers
Merseyboy

31 Mar 2011 22:43:08
Ye no Fe*k all lad, and your failure to answer the question yourself without quoting Commoli shows it! And for the record I don't HATE LUCAS, not once have I booed him at the match or ironically cheered if he was subbed, I think he is an average/ poor player and not of the required standard for LIVERPOOL! But feel I have to make my views on the player knowin on this site because people like you MR EM insinuate a lack of footballing knowledge because I have a differing opinion to you and all the other Lucas fans, you rate him that's fine, I don't and the last time I checked we live in England which is a democracy
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Hear Hear mate you do indeed live in a democracy (unless you're from Libya). I'm a fan of Lucas and also Reina, Agger, Gerrard, Spearing, Johnson, Kelly, Carragher, Soto, Suarez, Carroll, Kuyt, Mireless, Skrtel, Maxi (who's been our worse player this season). I'm not a massive fan of Poulson but will not go to the extreme lengths and ridicule him, like you seem to be doing with Lucas.

Ok we get it you're not a Lucas fan there but does seem to be a bit of "hatred" from you. Why? when he's been our best player thus far this season. You sound like i did when i wanted Hodgson out, i did "hate" the man at the time.

Blair Mayne YNWA

31 Mar 2011 22:37:20
Just a thought, if we can afford £35 million for Carroll, why can't we get other class premiership talent, such as Wilshere. Arsenal don't seem to have any money, and it could be argued he wouldn't want to leave, but neither did Carroll to be fair. Just seems to me it could be a very interesting window (though admittedly i am not expecting Jack Wilshere to sign!)

31 Mar 2011 22:35:03
A man in the know

I agree Cahill is a better option than Dann but i would prefer him than Per Mertesacker. Dann is still young for a defender and you say Birmingham are second from bottom because there defence isn't good enough, if you knew what you were talking about you would know its because there fowards arnt scoring enough. Theres only Fulham in the bottom 10 that's conceded less and bolton who are 1 place below us have conceded the same. most clubs in the PL find it hard against the Birmingham defence. From the way Dann has played since arriving at Birmingham he probably is on KK list somwhere

31 Mar 2011 22:26:43
Ed our centre midfield looks very congested to me. .Lets say Maxi, poulsen, aqua all leave in the summer and shelvey and spearing are used sparingly. We still have lucas, mireles,
gerrard and with adam supposedly nailed on i can't see us looking at another creative midfielder unless gerrard goes?

I know 2 world class wingers would shake it up but in the middle of the park who would we be looking at to create?

I think we would be pinning our hopes on adam a lot to find that little slide rule through ball and i don't know if he can do that?

gerrard hasn't done it for years. lucas hasnt done it. miereles isn't that clever good but not world class at picking out a runner. and adam for me is good at set pieces and hollywood passes but ive never seen any skill or creativity in close quarters from him.

Anyone else share my concerns for this position? ?

Benega, sanchez, pastore, martinez all would do this for me. . don't see adam as the answer in all honesty.

31 Mar 2011 22:24:17
For whoever is saying Suarez is s**te , say that to the club and see what they say! By the way what club do you support before saying anything more ?!

31 Mar 2011 22:14:55
ha looks like we will have to get that contreao lad from benfica then or bale, anyone watching baines interview on bitters? hes not a red atall, he just came through our youth system, him and his whole family our bitters hes saying, he says his proudest moments ever our the 95 final, his free kick v chavs and captaining everton in the cup last season, so there goes that one, oh well i rekon we save the 20 he would cost and get someone like conteao anyway, only cost thesame roughly and get a class centre back to like albiol or mertersaker, heard anything ed? ?

31 Mar 2011 22:15:49
"Liverpool sponsor wants club to buy Asian stars" - BBC.

Let the Honda rumours commence.

-IamTheCosmos
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I read that article too Cosmos. And to be honest it's none of their buisness who we buy. We all know that the Middle East and Asia are massive revenue attractions, dosn't mean they have the players we need.

I want FSG/ NESV, Comolli and Kenny to chose our players, not our sponsor and deffintely not a bank.

Blair Mayne YNWA

31 Mar 2011 22:14:38
What the hell is our Sponsor on about. BBC Sport if you want to check it. He reckons it is unimportant whether we achieve Champions League status as his "target market" (Asia) is asleep whilst its on. Whats more he's decided we are a "mid table club". Heck I'd take Carlsberg back!
Isaac

31 Mar 2011 22:13:04
Ye no Fe*k all lad, and your failure to answer the question yourself without quoting Commoli shows it! And for the record I don't HATE LUCAS, not once have I booed him at the match or ironically cheered if he was subbed, I think he is an average/ poor player and not of the required standard for LIVERPOOL! But feel I have to make my views on the player knowin on this site because people like you MR EM insinuate a lack of footballing knowledge because I have a differing opinion to you and all the other Lucas fans, you rate him that's fine, I don't and the last time I checked we live in England which is a democracy

31 Mar 2011 22:03:21
Lucas the water carrier, every team needs one, he may not be everyones cuppa tea but essential player at this moment in time, I don't love him & I don't hate him but I will support him cos he plays for LFC. . . . . . . . . .

CM68

31 Mar 2011 21:55:14
Last comment on boy wonder the new Dunga the next Brazil captain! If he is the mainstay of our midfeild next season be prepared for major disapointment because we will win NOTHING with players like him and Kuyt playing every week. Remember sometimes you get what you wish for, I hope you Lucas groupies remember that, our most improved player for the last 2 seasons according to you lot just so happens to coincide with our WORST 2 seasons for 20 years! Hats off to you all, you really are footballing experts!
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We certainly know a lot more than you, that is unless you know more than KK and Menezes, and you blame our last two seasons on two players. . . . .your an idiot! ! ! ! !

MR EM

31 Mar 2011 21:57:26
Does any 1 know who liverpool are really going to sign because it seems liverpool are keeping everything behind closed doors now which i for one am glad of the less other clubs know the better which is the liverpool way its been to long in coming

31 Mar 2011 21:59:25
"Liverpool sponsor wants club to buy Asian stars" - BBC.

Let the Honda rumours commence.

-IamTheCosmos

31 Mar 2011 22:00:44
MR EM. You won't answer the question because you no the answer is ZERO top teams because he is S***E! END OF LESSON
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OK, this is a statement from Comolli on the official site- "He could have gone to many clubs because he is highly rated around Europe, but he always said he wanted to play for Liverpool."

Being a hater you will obviously not accept this so i don't know know why i bothered

Now why not try to answer my question, IS SUAREZ NO GOOD BECAUSE NO OTHER TEAMS WANTED HIM?? ?? ?? ?? ? ?. . END OF LESSON

MR EM

31 Mar 2011 21:49:06
MR EM. You won't answer the question because you no the answer is ZERO top teams because he is S***E! END OF LESSON

31 Mar 2011 21:50:16
Some people on here are really begining to piss me off, lucas was given a new contract because kenny dalglish, king kenny, the best footballer to ever put on a liverpool shirt an one of the best managers we've had thinks he deserves one, he knos more about football than anyone of us

ed do you agree? {Ed001's Note - fully agree, the rest of the players also rate him highly.}

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Maybe Kenny is wrong, the manager of Brazil is wrong, all the LFC players are wrong and all the fans that support him are wrong, and the few haters on here are right?. . . . . . . . .Maybe not!
MR EM

31 Mar 2011 21:44:25
Tell ya what ed all this kk stuff doing my head in i just wish the owners would come out and give him the bloody job what you think ed? {Ed001's Note - the job is his it is just negotiations over the terms now, that is all you can ask for.}

31 Mar 2011 21:41:29
Let's get one thing clear, leighton baines is NOT a liverpool fan. he was a boyhood supporter of the club, however lost interest. He started watching everton regularly when he was 14, and has been a supporter ever since.

I'm not saying he is or isn't coming, I am just trying to clear up the facts.

31 Mar 2011 21:42:34
Last comment on boy wonder the new Dunga the next Brazil captain! If he is the mainstay of our midfeild next season be prepared for major disapointment because we will win NOTHING with players like him and Kuyt playing every week. Remember sometimes you get what you wish for, I hope you Lucas groupies remember that, our most improved player for the last 2 seasons according to you lot just so happens to coincide with our WORST 2 seasons for 20 years! Hats off to you all, you really are footballing experts!

31 Mar 2011 21:43:48
MR EM. Answer my original question, you won't because your over the top answer will show that you can't give a straight answer to a straight question and thus this proves my point on Lucas, if he was a top player then he would be chased by Europes best! Answer the question with no other comments

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My answer proved that your logic is rediculous so why would i then have to give names of teams that want him if your original question has been proved to be wrong?? You make no sense!

Why do you judge the ability of a player by the quality and quantity of teams that wish to purchase him?

Try to defend your rediculous question rather than just repeating it! How many teams wanted Suarez?

MR EM

31 Mar 2011 21:30:14
Ed, do you think we could do a swap deal with juventus involving aquilani and giovinco?

I think it would benefit both sides as they are looking likely to offload him, and i think he is a class player and would add some flair to the side.

what are your views on this mate? thanks very much, excellent website!

maka {Ed001's Note - to be honest I wouldn't have a clue as I don't watch Italian footie, it is dire.}

31 Mar 2011 21:34:19
Im beginning to just lose my patience with LFC. Im 56, I have been supporting my team for 36 years and this with the houlier reign has been the worst few seasons for liverpool in their history. We have new owners, a manager and director of football and new players However'
The owners are not sugar daddys and although I like the way they are going with the club, they have hired damien cammolli who is an amateur, kenny dalglish who has been my hero as a child but up until the end of the season is NOT the man to take Liverpool foward for the future, Is a great man manager but not a great Manager and is not proven at buying players. We have bought andy caroll is an Average player, good in the air and that's what we have payed for 35million, yes he will improve but not Real LFC standard of the early 80's. Suarez looks a very good player and will be our only acceptable buy in my opinion. Young, Adam, Jarvis are all definates for coming and none are In the (YOUNG, TALENTED, TECHNICAL CATEGORY) WHAT LIVERPOOL STANDARD IS ABOUT. We are a huge club and are looking at players like young and jarvis as forst options for the wings because they are cheap and english BUT NOT GOOD ENOUGH as you will see next season. I never trusted benetiz and houlier because of their playing stlyes and player choices but even THOUGH dalglish wants to play good attacking football, against the BETTER teams how can players such as Lucas, jarvis, carrol and young enable us to do that when they are not of the technical standard. Lfc has no great years to come with cammolli and dalglsih in charge because as we found out over the last few years, IT ALL COMES DOWN TO THE PLAYERS'

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You bang on about players not being good enough in comparison to the teams of the 80's and yet you also slate King Kenny as a manager? Are you a bit simple?

By the way, when Kenny was buying players that were not high profile then (Aldo/ Houghton - Oxford Barnes - Watford etc. .), were you moaning then? Probably.

Get a divorce if its that bad mate.

Shmickles

31 Mar 2011 21:36:19
MR EM. Answer my original question, you won't because your over the top answer will show that you can't give a straight answer to a straight question and thus this proves my point on Lucas, if he was a top player then he would be chased by Europes best! Answer the question with no other comments

aresnal- wealth of midfielders
chelsea- just bought ramires
utd- well we're never gonna sell anybody to them anyway
real madrid- alonso, kadiera
barca- masch, busquets
inter- they've got more defensive mids than anybody on the planet
milan- same as inter but a little less

all the european top clubs hav people already in the position so why wud they need another, jus because hes not bin followed round by every top club doesn't mean hes rubbish, whe makelele left real there wernt many clubs clambering for his signature, an he was the best holding defensive midfielder ive seen

what dya think to this ed ? {Ed001's Note - I am bored of this knocking of Lucas all the time, he does his job well enough to earn a place in Brazil's team. He does his job well enough to be first choice in our side and to be highly rated by Dalglish and the other players. That is good enough for me.}

31 Mar 2011 21:29:19
If your gettin pissed off then read another site! simple

31 Mar 2011 21:25:43
Some people on here are really begining to piss me off, lucas was given a new contract because kenny dalglish, king kenny, the best footballer to ever put on a liverpool shirt an one of the best managers we've had thinks he deserves one, he knos more about football than anyone of us

ed do you agree? {Ed001's Note - fully agree, the rest of the players also rate him highly.}

im a midfielder, obviously at a much lower level, but id love to play with him in the team, it give the more creative players alot more freedom to express themselves

31 Mar 2011 21:26:53
I want baines

write him a letter, i not sure if hes seein someone tho, just have to take ya chances

31 Mar 2011 21:27:31
Hey lads,
Just a few thoughts from reading the posts over the last few days.our summer business is about makin our club stronger as a squad of 24 + good youths to make up the squad not making a good 11.our squad should be strong to compete, so injuries and suspensions and poor form doesn't have an impact.
Charlie Adam is a good player he is to replace cole thus makin the squad stronger.
Ashley Young to replace maxi thus making our squad stronger.
baines to replace konchesky again makin us stronger.
Benzema replacing Ngog.
Payet/ errickson/ Jarvis to replace jovanovic.
M'Vila to replace poulsen.
These players along with what we have will indeed make us stronger as a squad not just a team as a squad. I think we need to look at the bigger picture. If these come through I think we will be in a good place for next season going forward.

Fowler is god

31 Mar 2011 21:26:04
Reina

Kelly Cahill Agger Enrique

A.Johnson Gerrard Meireles A.Young

Suarez

Carroll

Subs: Gulacsi, Carragher, Johnson, Lucas, Adam, Marveaux, Kuyt.

In: Cahill-15 mill
Enrique-8 mill
Adam-7 mill
A Young-15 mill
A Johnson- 10+ mill
Marveaux-Free

31 Mar 2011 21:19:58
Some people on here are really begining to piss me off, lucas was given a new contract because kenny dalglish, king kenny, the best footballer to ever put on a liverpool shirt an one of the best managers we've had thinks he deserves one, he knos more about football than anyone of us

ed do you agree ? {Ed001's Note - fully agree, the rest of the players also rate him highly.}

31 Mar 2011 21:20:28
I want baines

31 Mar 2011 21:13:59
MR EM. Answer my original question, you won't because your over the top answer will show that you can't give a straight answer to a straight question and thus this proves my point on Lucas, if he was a top player then he would be chased by Europes best! Answer the question with no other comments

31 Mar 2011 21:15:38
I would like us 2 move 2 a new stadium that's the only way forward a 3rd of the stadium cost will be funded by the selling on the naming rights. Thats why FSG are looking at possible suitors as it will take a load off if the decision is made to build a new stadium. I would be in favour of the move, it's the only way forward. The reason why some people might not want to is because they are afraid of change but change is needed, we have hope in the new youth system, we have faith in the new owners but now we need something that's going to make a big impression, a stand out feature like a center peace or a focal point that is going to make us, a newly revived us and in what better way can we show that we are back and better by giving ourselve a new image.
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Sorry I can't agree, you make some valid points but we really don't need a "new image" all we need is to get back our old image. Some will argue that you should never look back but sometimes you need to take a step back before you stride forwards. I know it may be emotional clap trap but I don't ever want to see a Liverpool team in a tunnel that doesn't have "THIS IS ANFIELD" above it, I don't ever want to be without the Kop. We are our history and it's time for us to use that history to create some more. We do have the greatest fans in the world, the most knowledgeable and loyal, and yes we need to get more of those fans watching the team every week but I hope it can be achieved by re-development of our legendary stadium. I know we could have a stunning new stadium but I feel Anfield is the only home we will ever need. I know some will disagree but honestly, if you think about it, wouldn't it make you feel proud to have some new success without having to sell our soul?
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2 fantastic posts and some great and valid points on both sides. Which makes me think, that either way (New Stadium or Anfield revelopment) and i'd be more than happy. Just as long as we get somthing, that will increase our matchday revenue and appease our fans on our massive waiting list.

Blair Mayne YNWA

31 Mar 2011 21:04:39
.He don't create goals(not more than ten assists am sure after all these years)He doesn't score(not more than 2-5 goals if i recall after all these years) he just run and chased the ball and pass around which alot of other players can do.hes a Hard tacklers thou.But his error prone, passing is not good enough, poor awareness and have no confidence to beat players to create a space.We need a player who have the standard of xabi alonso/ macsherano or maybe better if we want to challenge to win the title
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Your knowledge of football is about as good as your English. . Lucas plays in the defensive position, let me remind you - and how many assists or goals did Mascherano get? (Sorry, can't hear you?) And the rest of your negative comments are just as wide of the mark, but clearly no use trying to educate one who doesn't have the capacity.

31 Mar 2011 21:05:32
Ed, don't know why I am asking this but was suarez our record signing at 1 stage? {Ed002's Note - No. Torres was around £21 million plus Garcia if I recall correctly.}

31 Mar 2011 20:50:48
Ed, how would you feel if Cahill, Young, Baines, Adam, Dzsudzsak, Benzema and A.Johnson signed because Ive been told we're deffo working on deals trying to sign them? Also expand on your thoughts of each player. Cheers. {Ed002's Note - I am sorry but there is not time - you need to read through the other messages to see the Ed's opinions on all of these players.}

31 Mar 2011 20:51:02
So NO top teams in Spain Germany or England then! Thanks for proving my point with Lucas

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And this proves. . . . . . . .? ?

Do you want someone to give you a list of all the top players in the EPL that don't have other teams wanting to buy them? I would do it but you haters don't listen to reason you just continue with the hate filled nonesense

In the summer a respected poster claimed Suarez was not going to be a good buy because other teams was not interested in him, this alone proves your logic is rediculous unless you hate Suarez as well?

MR EM

31 Mar 2011 20:51:48
Hey ed's
How're things?I was jus readin 4-4-2 mag and a section in it had about contract clauses. It said we were after nuri Sahin in jan but couldn't activate his clause as it was 5 mill if u were chasin for titles. Any truth?

Cheers
Fowler is god {Ed002's Note - I don't really understand the question - sorry.}

31 Mar 2011 20:52:49
Sorry man forgot ya said top prem teams arsenal and ders more den two top teams in Spain and more den one in Germany! Ha he would def get 13 mill ed quick question how much u think lucas would be worth and anyone else? Adamynwa {Ed002's Note - Lucas has signed a new contract so his value is irrelevant. But he is worth what someone will pay for him.}

31 Mar 2011 20:54:45
I would like us 2 move 2 a new stadium that's the only way forward a 3rd of the stadium cost will be funded by the selling on the naming rights. Thats why FSG are looking at possible suitors as it will take a load off if the decision is made to build a new stadium. I would be in favour of the move, it's the only way forward. The reason why some people might not want to is because they are afraid of change but change is needed, we have hope in the new youth system, we have faith in the new owners but now we need something that's going to make a big impression, a stand out feature like a center peace or a focal point that is going to make us, a newly revived us and in what better way can we show that we are back and better by giving ourselve a new image.
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Sorry I can't agree, you make some valid points but we really don't need a "new image" all we need is to get back our old image. Some will argue that you should never look back but sometimes you need to take a step back before you stride forwards. I know it may be emotional clap trap but I don't ever want to see a Liverpool team in a tunnel that doesn't have "THIS IS ANFIELD" above it, I don't ever want to be without the Kop. We are our history and it's time for us to use that history to create some more. We do have the greatest fans in the world, the most knowledgeable and loyal, and yes we need to get more of those fans watching the team every week but I hope it can be achieved by re-development of our legendary stadium. I know we could have a stunning new stadium but I feel Anfield is the only home we will ever need. I know some will disagree but honestly, if you think about it, wouldn't it make you feel proud to have some new success without having to sell our soul?

31 Mar 2011 20:58:30
Shame on you! & I bet you were not a Rafa fan either.! The only way you'll get these people to see sense on Lucas is to tell them that he was signed by Roy

LOL, you bunny! I'm no Lucas lover but it doesn't take a genius to know that Ramirez went to Chelski for about 18m or more and Anderson to Manure for about the same, and anybody can see that Lucas is not worse than either of them. But just answer this, if he is as useless as you say he is then why has he been given an improved contract? Because Kenny rates him more than you, and I haven't seen you win the Prem yet?

31 Mar 2011 20:47:53
Can we just get this right about Lucas; is he our best central midfielder over the last 3 years - no. Is he the most improved - yes.

Players play better around world class players; the previous Americans/ players wanting to leave have meant the squad isn't as strong (at the moment) as it once was; hence why we are critical (myself included) on when the team plays poorly.

Is Lucas the worst central midfielder in the current squad - No (unless someone convinces me Poulsen is better - they better have a knife to my throat when they do!).

Are we going to be in a position to spend money on wingers, left backs, strikers and centre forwards (i.e. 2 or 3 in every position)? No.

Should we replace the worst central midfielder with a better player that should be a 1st team player when fit not a squad player? - Absolutely.

Therefore tie Lucas down to a longer contract; replace Poulsen with a.n.other. If the players are better around Lucas lets see if he improves further (as he has improved); if not sell a Brazil 1st teamer in a couple of seasons rather than risk losing on a free transfer.

Also have a look at the Scotland game he played extremely well - a lot better than Adam did btw!

Hoola

31 Mar 2011 20:55:07
Josek aru a manc in disguise?

31 Mar 2011 20:41:28
So, Alberto Aquilani, it appears that he too may be swayed by the arrival of KK.
Could it be that when he was loaned out to Juventus he did not want to play for Liverpool under Woy?
Is there any evidence to suggest that he will return should Juventus scoff at the deal, apart from paper talk?
I think it would be a fantastic 'signing', a creative CM with vision and skill that we would not have to pay for, that would be a great turn of events and free up more cash as we would not need to buy a new CM.
Ed what are your thoughts on this?

Anfield Andy

{Ed002's Note - Juventus are just playing hardball over the contracted end-of-loan fee being too high. Since the laughable transaction was first set up with Roma by Rafa Benitez to bring the player to Anfield he has not been happy. Initially lonely and struggling to overcome an injury, Aquilani will tell anyone who listens that he wants to stay in Italy. His agent was instructed in January to look for another club. I would expect him to move to Juve in the end. It would be disruptive to have a disgruntled player in the dressing room.}

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wasn't it aquilani himself who said that he might be ok with staying at anfield?

hulmerous

31 Mar 2011 20:36:07
So NO top teams in Spain Germany or England then! Thanks for proving my point with Lucas

31 Mar 2011 20:37:08
O yes I forgot 13-17 million! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

31 Mar 2011 20:30:17
I would like us 2 move 2 a new stadium that's the only way forward a 3rd of the stadium cost will be funded by the selling on the naming rights. Thats why FSG are looking at possible suitors as it will take a load off if the decision is made to build a new stadium. I would be in favour of the move, it's the only way forward. The reason why some people might not want to is because they are afraid of change but change is needed, we have hope in the new youth system, we have faith in the new owners but now we need something that's going to make a big impression, a stand out feature like a center peace or a focal point that is going to make us, a newly revived us and in what better way can we show that we are back and better by giving ourselve a new image.

31 Mar 2011 20:19:07
Just a couple of questions for the LUCAS LOVERS! If we made it known he was available for transfer how many top prem/ european teams would be in for him? and roughly how much money would he go for? And if your not going to answer both questions honestly then don't bother replying to this post

Shame on you! & I bet you were not a Rafa fan either.! ! The only way you'll get these people to see sense on Lucas is to tell them that he was signed by Roy

JoseK

31 Mar 2011 20:23:11
Lucas to score or make an assist on Sat vs west brom

31 Mar 2011 20:24:20
Any of da top teams in Italy a madrid valancia any of top teams in Germany beside munich would buy Lucas and price wise any where from 13 to 17 mill adamynwa

31 Mar 2011 20:08:50
Hey ed hows things im hearing over web today by some fans saying that we don't need anymore central midfielders because we have gerrard meriles lucas and spearing and that they would be no place for aqualini what a joke that is ok so when gerrard or meriles are injured just look at the 2 clowns to replace them so yes we need aqualani back he should of never left in the first place only for that t**t hodgson and yes he was well needed this season for lfc any one who says different are disillusional go on the pool

{Ed006's Note - I will back Aquilani to the hills, I still feel he would be a good player for us, however my views on this are not shared with some other editors.}

31 Mar 2011 20:06:30
Just a couple of questions for the LUCAS LOVERS! If we made it known he was available for transfer how many top prem/ european teams would be in for him? and roughly how much money would he go for? And if your not going to answer both questions honestly then don't bother replying to this post

31 Mar 2011 19:34:09
31 Mar 2011 15:41:21
Pablo hernandez from valencia looks pretty tasty

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Is he your type is he? My type is more brad pitt or george clooney maybe even carlos tevez

31 Mar 2011 19:35:24
Remember Kenny Dalglish won the Premier League at Blackburn Rovers with players like Stuart Ripley excelling themselves , if Kenny Dalglish wants Matt Jarvis surely the player will perform .

31 Mar 2011 19:42:38
The Liverpool squad will be full of very talented players prepared to take their chances when they come -

Charlie Adam & Matt Jarvis will fit right in to a squad that boasts the likes of Suarez & Gerrard

It is a squad game and a marathon not a sprint

1977

31 Mar 2011 19:49:08
CEO of standard chartered said they'd like to see the club sign top Asian players

Here come the Honda rumours :)

31 Mar 2011 19:15:29
Ed theres a report today that standard chartered have said that we should target high profile asian players to increase revenue in asia and raise profile etc , i know kenny won't just go out and buy loads of asian players but i should imagine the liverpool board / staff have probably had a discussion with standard chartered about it and perhaps there is a possibility of one big name asian player coming , it certainly makes sense finacially , personally i think theres a good chance in kesiuke honda , what do you think ed? we know he has been a target in the past {Ed005's Note - Keisuke Honda would be the most obvious one, however there are other good Asian players we could sign.}

31 Mar 2011 19:06:07
I want to apologise to all the lfc fans i thought were delusional, just went on the spurs site for the first time and they are on about getting kaka and aguero next season!

31 Mar 2011 18:39:44
Why are spurs a selling club? the same reason liverpool are! we like you were offered stupid money for player which were like you put to good use to improve the team! and if rumours are true you will be selling again come the summer with your keeper wanting out? yes maybe we will sell bale and IF we do it would only be for stupid money! As for a club with no history i suggest you chat to an educated red and you could enjoy the education and leave it at that? and as for what are spurs fans doing on this page! your on our page, uniteds page and even the chelsea page! its only an educated guess but i think everyone goes on everyones page!

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If a player wants out ie reina I can't see how you can class that as a selling club!
If a player wants to go you have to let him.

LAVERS

31 Mar 2011 18:43:33
31 Mar 2011 17:41:20
Ha ha! see steve parker has flung that spuds posting back onto their banter page with one of his trademark written exocets! gr* work from the Reds again.
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i don't think it was spuds fan, i think it was a toffee, he/ she kept writing yous, the only people i know who use that word are scousers and parts of cheshire, ie widnes, just a thought, jimmybosun,

I'm Irish we also USE that word. :)

31 Mar 2011 18:47:05
Hi ed keep up the good, work great site, i just heard there is a strong link to jarvis from wolves, he's a good player but not liverpool material. we should as a club be linked with only the best players around. i would like to know what players you think we should sign. {Ed005's Note - I'm sure we'll be targeting quality players. We just have to trust Kenny Dalglish.}

31 Mar 2011 18:47:11
Not that I hate The man(Lucas) but due to our club history and great players that we had.The fans who loved the club to their heart have such high expectation and dying to see the club back to the glory days.But the fact is we have watch him play for years.He don't create goals(not more than ten assists am sure after all these years)He doesn't score(not more than 2-5 goals if i recall after all these years) he just run and chased the ball and pass around which alot of other players can do.hes a Hard tacklers thou.But his error prone, passing is not good enough, poor awareness and have no confidence to beat players to create a space.We need a player who have the standard of xabi alonso/ macsherano or maybe better if we want to challenge to win the title.He(lucas) he have passion but the quality is not within our standards of expectations.The match against the Scott we can see he have the Some confidence holding the ball, doing some good runs and accurate long pass.maybe he have the confidence playing with top and technical players in the brazils team.but the point is.it has been years and little has been proven.we did have hope and faith but it is just sad If manutd can win the 19th title.we can't let that.WE need to catch up.we need to be back on top.Cuz we can.

Rush Idols

31 Mar 2011 18:50:25
Hello Everyone, I have been looking on this site for a few months now but have never made a post. I believe some fans are getting far too carried away when it comes to summer transfers, i think that NESV are looking at a 3-4 year plan for glory rather than instant success (hence investing in young talented players with potential)
I would be more then happy this summer if we made the below 3 signings

Jose Enqique (LB)
Ashley Young (LM/ RM/ CF)
Matt Jarvis (LM/ RM)

I believe with the sales of some of the deadwood in the squad all players would be available and would add natural width, something we have been lacking for years. I think we will also be a solid contender for a top 4 spot next season

In Kenny we trust

31 Mar 2011 17:52:01
31 Mar 2011 16:53:08
Ha, you lfc fans make me laugh!

Your world class brazillian has signed a new long term contract, KUYT, the greatest technical and skillful player I have ever seen, is is his pension years is getting a new long term deal, Carroll was 35m and is Average like the rest of your squad and i hear that yous are after Jarvis. ha , im in fits of laughter when you say adam etc will give yous a stronger squad, Your first 11 is light years behind us and yous cheer players like your brazilllian for working hard, Well i would if i was now on 90k a week. Lfc will be trailing for years to come. What does it feel like to pay a dear enough fee into anfield and see players who are technically gifted(not ha) playing for your team and picking up a wage of 100k a week. I think i might be a footballer and pack in my job, im 23 but if kuyt and the brazilian can do it, then im already in a liverpool shirt!

Spurs for the league next season! !
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I've never thought Spuds fans were the brightest bulbs on the Christmas tree, but this post only proves to me how low they can get. It's fear, obviously.

Since Christmas, we've clawed ourselves back from the deep, dark abyss that is the mid-table of the Premier League and leap-frogged 6 places in 11 games, to find ourselves 6th and 8 points off a Champions League spot after the worst year in our club's history and the worst start since the days when we were happy just to stay in the First Division over 55 years ago. This, in football, is a monumental achievement given the odds that were stacked against us just 10 weeks ago.

At the time of Kenny's arrival, the Spuds and Arry "Tax-Dodga" Redknapp were on the vanity trip of their lives, every media source bending over backwards to heap them with praise on defeating clubs such as Werder Bremen (relegation-threatened at the moment), Twente (poor, poor team) and Rafa's Milan (who couldn't beat them?). They were off on the "greatest season in our history", "the year we take back the crown that's ours" (just to quote my deluded mates) and nothing could stop them.
Needless to say, they quickly discovered their apparent mortality in the following weeks and swiftly they lost the wind in their sails.
They now find themselves, after what was promising to be a legendary season, only 5 points ahead the team that just recently was fearing the prospect of relegation and their deluded dreams of a PL title are gone (despite SSN's and other sources insistence that they still have a chance)

Not only is that a testament to Liverpool FC and King Kenny, that in our worst season in 55 years we are 2 wins from overtaking a team that's having the one-off season of a generation, but it is also evidence of how small a club Tottenham is in comparison to the Liverpools, Man U's and Arsenals of this world.
The above poster's foolish cry for Spuds to win the league next year is laughable, if it happens within the next 20 years I'll kiss the Man U badge and sing their 'legendary' 4-word anthem 'Glory, Glory'. His criticism of Kuyt is also embarrassing for footballing fans in general given he's scored 3 times the amount of goals Spuds have scored against the league leaders all season and would be their joint top scorer if he played for them.

Of course, if we finish above them, they'll blame their "blip" on injuries to players who never play for them (Woodgate, King, the fat defensive midfielder who's name escapes
me, etc., ) and expect Llorente, Aguero, Richards, Sneijder and Hulk to join them in the summer for a combined fee of £250m despite their laughable revenue streams and lack of CL football.

Just thought I'd get this stuff off my mind.

Martin

31 Mar 2011 17:55:07
31 Mar 2011 17:15:32
Spurs for the league next season! !

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Actually, 'Arry for Pentonville for a short stretch following the outcome of the tax case, earns enough should pay up like the rest of us have to.

Moron'iho to be offered a chest of gold and salary to make a Swiss bank tingle with excitement. .

Followed by the inevitable financial implosion that's backed a lack of genuine GLOBAL following, history, oh and a staduim.

Love the fact the spuds are wading in with a judical review threat over the olympic staduim, gobby lot!

You're only on here because you're nervous, and don't actually have any HISTORY of SUCCESS to speak of. 1/ 4 final, whhoooa! Been there and done that, passed it and then went further, several times.

The future's bright for LFC - Spuds are emphatically browing thier shorts right now as they know that there is no chance of a start to the season like we have just had again and as a result, well frankly - they're buggerd. .

Sorry lads, nice try but come back when your a bit older and have something to GENUINELY say.

Suffolkn'Red

31 Mar 2011 17:55:48
I don't mind the spurs fans coming on here and saying whatever they like, in fact I don't care what any fan says about my club because there is one simple irrefutable fact that any fan with any knowledge must concede. There are only 2 big clubs in England they are Liverpool and united
Their success, stature, history and world wide fan bases are a country mile ahead of any other club. Obviously I believe us to be bigger than united but the truth is no- one else comes close.
And if spurs arsenal chelsea et al want to be referred to as big clubs then that's fine as long as they realise that if they are big then Liverpool and united must be massive.

Chris in Tamworth

31 Mar 2011 17:57:14
31 Mar 2011 17:08:00 Hi Ed, can you please tell why Riise was sold in 2008 and that too for a was sold in 2008 and that too for a paltry 4m? Was it his semi final own goal against Chelsea or his erratic last season performance? ast season performance? For me, he was the best left back to have played for us in recent past. He have played for us in recent past. He was one of the best standing tacklers in the league and hardly got njured unlike the glassy Aurelio! His replacement- Dossena, enough said{Ed002's Note - I cannot recall the reasons behind him leaving.} Can anyone else
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I believe I can answer. Rafa was the reason, any players who rocked the bot, no matter how good, were sold the following summer. No coincidence that riise and bellamy were sold the summer after the golf club thing. Same thing happened to arbeloa after fightin with carragher.

Rewflo {Ed001's Note - Arbeloa was gone long before then, the previous summer he had been persuaded to stay another year by Rafa and in return his price was dropped. The fight was because Carra felt Arbeloa's head was on his forthcoming move to Spain and he was not concentrating on the match in hand.}

31 Mar 2011 18:06:18
Could clarke get the best of aqua man if he came back

31 Mar 2011 18:26:40
Am I the only person who questions the intelligence of making 'Arry the spiv, the England manager? Just look back over his career he has always been a manager who buys players to create a team. The last time he had a team of talented youngsters that he didn't need to bring foreign signings into (west ham) he got relegated! The last time I looked you weren't allowed to buy foreign talent for an international team.

Chris in Tamworth

31 Mar 2011 18:28:33
****RE:Ha, you lfc fans make me laugh!

Your world class brazillian has signed a new long term contract, KUYT, the greatest technical and skillful player I have ever seen, is is his pension years is getting a new long term deal, Carroll was 35m and is Average like the rest of your squad and i hear that yous are after Jarvis. ha , im in fits of laughter when you say adam etc will give yous a stronger squad, Your first 11 is light years behind us and yous cheer players like your brazilllian for working hard, Well i would if i was now on 90k a week. Lfc will be trailing for years to come. What does it feel like to pay a dear enough fee into anfield and see players who are technically gifted(not ha) playing for your team and picking up a wage of 100k a week. I think i might be a footballer and pack in my job, im 23 but if kuyt and the brazilian can do it, then im already in a liverpool shirt!

Spurs for the league next season! !*****

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The only thing spuds had going for them was CL footy.
Next year they won't have that and do you honestly think you will attract world class footballers?
Liverpool with no CL is more attractive than spuds with no CL.
P.S I'm sure you'd welcome suarez with open arms if you could.

LAVERS

31 Mar 2011 18:29:01
Great, officially relinked with jarvis. An average winger with not alot of pace and a decent cross, this is not what we need to gain champions league qualification or better. We need to stop searching in the bargain bucket and start targeting real quality. Our owners were willing to spend 35m on Carrol so why not be willing to spend 20m + on a top quality winger which we desperatley need!

E.H LFC

31 Mar 2011 17:41:02
McGeady is useless, absolutely useless !

31 Mar 2011 17:41:20
Ha ha! see steve parker has flung that spuds posting back onto their banter page with one of his trademark written exocets! gr* work from the Reds again.
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i don't think it was spuds fan, i think it was a toffee, he/ she kept writing yous, the only people i know who use that word are scousers and parts of cheshire, ie widnes, just a thought, jimmybosun,

31 Mar 2011 17:29:09
Why are spurs a selling club? the same reason liverpool are! we like you were offered stupid money for player which were like you put to good use to improve the team! and if rumours are true you will be selling again come the summer with your keeper wanting out? yes maybe we will sell bale and IF we do it would only be for stupid money! As for a club with no history i suggest you chat to an educated red and you could enjoy the education and leave it at that? and as for what are spurs fans doing on this page! your on our page, uniteds page and even the chelsea page! its only an educated guess but i think everyone goes on everyones page!

31 Mar 2011 17:33:34
Heard from a speaker at a conference by one of the clubs sports science guys that the club will be going on a pre season tour to china and malaysia at the start of next season due to the deal we have with standard chartered no game at fenway park fact!

31 Mar 2011 17:33:53
Who would you prefer to replace Carragher?

Kelly (believable/ agree) or Mexes (unbelievable/ disagree)?

31 Mar 2011 17:24:28
Isaac . . never any harm done with words.
It's usually deeds that hurt more.
:)

Steve Parker

31 Mar 2011 17:24:58
ED read a post there a minute ago about Suarez coming back . Do you think he will be risked on Saturday or do you think he will be rested? Cheers ! {Ed002's Note - It would simply be guesswork on my behalf so I won't comment.}

31 Mar 2011 17:27:33
I live in Poulton where Adam and his fiancees family live. She owns her own business and knows my sister quite well. She is house hunting on the outskirts of London at the mo as Adam is moving in Summer. When she asked her where to that's when she said where she was looking at houses but would say no more. Can only be Spurs so we aint getting him. And the Blackpool supporters I know have been saying since Jan hes got a move to either Utd or Spurs in Summer.-Aidan.
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2) He might just be prepared, as if he joins us or United he won't need to move - Aidan (Mc)

31 Mar 2011 17:16:31
I live in Poulton where Adam and his fiancees family live. She owns her own business and knows my sister quite well. She is house hunting on the outskirts of London at the mo as Adam is moving in Summer. When she asked her where to that's when she said where she was looking at houses but would say no more. Can only be Spurs so we aint getting him. And the Blackpool supporters I know have been saying since Jan hes got a move to either Utd or Spurs in Summer.-Aidan.
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I would have thought Harry's first job would be to buy some quality strikers as the ones they have at the moment are not very good, and that will cost them a small fortune, and if any player goes to spurs they are only going to have one season with Harry in Charge and then it is going to be all change. Ross

31 Mar 2011 17:12:24
Everything.
That's why I write about it and work on the fringes of the game.
Strange question.
Isaac, you will have to do a lot better grammatically and tactically to slide in a barbed comment posed as a question like that.

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Steve, I apologise if I caused any offence, I certainly didn't mean to. It was supposed to be a bit of banter; I generally have a far more laid back (probably ignorant and naïve) view of the game. In hindsight it was a vacuous comment though, and I hope no harm has been done.
Keep up the good posts,
Isaac

31 Mar 2011 17:15:32
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31 Mar 2011 17:04:21
31 Mar 2011 16:03:42
Hey Ed just read on CaughtOffside that Aurelio and Kelly have suffered a setback in recovery from their hamstring injuries

kelly is brilliant and the sooner he is back the better - but aurelio - forget him, waste of time - just spends too long on the sick bed - probably the worst decision hodgson made while he was here

are you kidding poulson and konck and a keeper we didn't even need far worse mate.
aintree dave

31 Mar 2011 17:08:00
Hi Ed, can you please tell why Riise was sold in 2008 and that too for a paltry 4m? Was it his semi final own goal against Chelsea or his erratic last season performance?
For me, he was the best left back to have played for us in recent past. He was one of the best standing tacklers in the league and hardly got injured unlike the glassy Aurelio! His replacement- Dossena, enough said!

{Ed002's Note - I cannot recall the reasons behind him leaving.}

Can anyone else answer?

31 Mar 2011 17:09:01
****RE:Ha, you lfc fans make me laugh!

Your world class brazillian has signed a new long term contract, KUYT, the greatest technical and skillful player I have ever seen, is is his pension years is getting a new long term deal, Carroll was 35m and is Average like the rest of your squad and i hear that yous are after Jarvis. ha , im in fits of laughter when you say adam etc will give yous a stronger squad, Your first 11 is light years behind us and yous cheer players like your brazilllian for working hard, Well i would if i was now on 90k a week. Lfc will be trailing for years to come. What does it feel like to pay a dear enough fee into anfield and see players who are technically gifted(not ha) playing for your team and picking up a wage of 100k a week. I think i might be a footballer and pack in my job, im 23 but if kuyt and the brazilian can do it, then im already in a liverpool shirt!

Spurs for the league next season! !*****

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You make me laugh, you've only been in the champions league 1 season and all of a sudden you think you are the best team in the world. . You are an average/ good team and will NEVER win the title, you have 3 decent players but you have no amazing (Unlike us) past and you will have NO future. 'Nuff said. YNWA

31 Mar 2011 16:57:47
What the hell are Spurs fans doing in a Liverpool banter site? Ask yourself! You are proving to be a small club fans by exactly doing this! Come back Arsenal fans, all is forgiven. Honestly guys, try to show a bit of class. When was the last time Spurs won anything of importance. . blimey, I was at university which is 30 years ago. .if not longer. Just go thank God VDV was signed on the hop last summer or you would've been in trouble. .If I were you, which thankfuly I'm not, I'd go worry about qualitying for europe. .yes mates, don't laugh, talk to you in the summer. .Hee Hee

31 Mar 2011 16:59:47
Why Spurs fans here. They can't imagine to be compared with us. We were and will be Light years ahead. And you have a world class winger who only has pace and scored three Consulation goals when Inter was sleeping. And you have great strikers who scored twenty goals in 30 matches in this Season. And you have you have top league scorer who scores goals by Fluke. And, also you were in Champions League because of Our very own Hicks and Gillette.
Wait for this season to finish and with all our Top. Players gone in search of Champions League Football and we will offer your David Ngog for free for your Premiership Survival.

31 Mar 2011 17:00:35
ha ha! see steve parker has flung that spuds posting back onto their banter page with one of his trademark written exocets! gr* work from the Reds again.

31 Mar 2011 16:41:14
Hi Ed, can you please tell why Riise was sold in 2008 and that too for a paltry 4m? Was it his semi final own goal against Chelsea or his erratic last season performance?
For me, he was the best left back to have played for us in recent past. He was one of the best standing tacklers in the league and hardly got injured unlike the glassy Aurelio! His replacement- Dossena, enough said!

{Ed002's Note - I cannot recall the reasons behind him leaving.}

31 Mar 2011 16:47:12
I live in Poulton where Adam and his fiancees family live. She owns her own business and knows my sister quite well. She is house hunting on the outskirts of London at the mo as Adam is moving in Summer. When she asked her where to that's when she said where she was looking at houses but would say no more. Can only be Spurs so we aint getting him. And the Blackpool supporters I know have been saying since Jan hes got a move to either Utd or Spurs in Summer.-Aidan

Correct mate, Charlie's misses does have her own business in Poulton, every man and his dog knows this as it's been in the local papers frequently. The one thing you have wrong is that he lives in Lytham and the majority of Blackpool supporters reckon he's off to the big L'pool

31 Mar 2011 16:47:50
"Cheers mate I love that it stuck with you ;)
Fair points today mate, but one question, and don't take this the wrong way; what do you just love about football?
Isaac"
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Everything.
That's why I write about it and work on the fringes of the game.
Strange question.
Isaac, you will have to do a lot better grammatically and tactically to slide in a barbed comment posed as a question like that.

Steve Parker

31 Mar 2011 16:51:12
Experienced 1
I can't even be bothered to repost that tosh and drivel you wrote.
Unbelievable cra*p.

31 Mar 2011 16:51:59
Young, Dzsudzsak, Adam, Baines, Cahill and Benzema will sign and possibly M'Vila, as we are very closely watching him.

I expect Maxi, Jovanovic, Poulsen, Aquilani, Konchesky, Ngog, Pacheco, Jones, Degen and El Zhar to leave. Gerrard wants to stay, KK rates Spearing and Cole.

I do know that we have made a move for Hazard, but he won't sign.

If Reina leaves, even though its down to FSG investing in the team, we want Lloris.

31 Mar 2011 16:53:08
Ha, you lfc fans make me laugh!

Your world class brazillian has signed a new long term contract, KUYT, the greatest technical and skillful player I have ever seen, is is his pension years is getting a new long term deal, Carroll was 35m and is Average like the rest of your squad and i hear that yous are after Jarvis. ha , im in fits of laughter when you say adam etc will give yous a stronger squad, Your first 11 is light years behind us and yous cheer players like your brazilllian for working hard, Well i would if i was now on 90k a week. Lfc will be trailing for years to come. What does it feel like to pay a dear enough fee into anfield and see players who are technically gifted(not ha) playing for your team and picking up a wage of 100k a week. I think i might be a footballer and pack in my job, im 23 but if kuyt and the brazilian can do it, then im already in a liverpool shirt!

Spurs for the league next season! !
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At last a funny and humerous post. It was all getting a bit to serious in here but as usual a Spud comes on and cheers us up. Thanks Spud you should be on stage at the O2 alongside Lee Evans.

Blair Mayne YNWA

Ps. Spurs for the EUROPA league next season! ! !

31 Mar 2011 16:39:30
Spurs for the league next season! !*****
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Someone should record this like when a rare bird appears, normally you only hear cocky spurs fans around sept/ oct time, telling us all that ''this is our season''. You've got two/ three very good players, the rest match up with alot of our squad. But remember this your best position in years. .but its our worst, go figure eh!. Your club is a selling club and always will be, this season is your chance, so take it while you can, jog on Cleetus.

Mjr Hufton Tufton (rtd)

31 Mar 2011 16:40:51
About the boy with the odd twisted mouth (one for you Isaac!)
Steve Parker

Cheers mate I love that it stuck with you ;)
Fair points today mate, but one question, and don't take this the wrong way; what do you just love about football?
Isaac

31 Mar 2011 16:36:06
Im beginning to just lose my patience with LFC. Im 56, I have been supporting my team for 36 years and this with the houlier reign has been the worst few seasons for liverpool in their history. We have new owners, a manager and director of football and new players However'
The owners are not sugar daddys and although I like the way they are going with the club, they have hired damien cammolli who is an amateur, kenny dalglish who has been my hero as a child but up until the end of the season is NOT the man to take Liverpool foward for the future, Is a great man manager but not a great Manager and is not proven at buying players. We have bought andy caroll is an Average player, good in the air and that's what we have payed for 35million, yes he will improve but not Real LFC standard of the early 80's. Suarez looks a very good player and will be our only acceptable buy in my opinion. Young, Adam, Jarvis are all definates for coming and none are In the (YOUNG, TALENTED, TECHNICAL CATEGORY) WHAT LIVERPOOL STANDARD IS ABOUT. We are a huge club and are looking at players like young and jarvis as forst options for the wings because they are cheap and english BUT NOT GOOD ENOUGH as you will see next season. I never trusted benetiz and houlier because of their playing stlyes and player choices but even THOUGH dalglish wants to play good attacking football, against the BETTER teams how can players such as Lucas, jarvis, carrol and young enable us to do that when they are not of the technical standard. Lfc has no great years to come with cammolli and dalglsih in charge because as we found out over the last few years, IT ALL COMES DOWN TO THE PLAYERS'

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Nearly agree with all of that mate, I am a realist fan and i don't dilusion myself that dalglish will turn these players into world beaters and all this trust sh*te in dalglish. We don't have a good enough first 11 yet never mind thinking about squad players and the players we are linked with are APPAULING. Dalglish and camolli have bothed said at one time about players that want to be at the club. LOOK AT YOUNG AND ADAM WHO WOULD SNAP UNITEDS HANDS OFF IF THEY CAME IN WITH A BID. LOOK AT TURAN! HE IS BETTER THAN THE WINGERS WE ARE BUYING AND IS A DIE HARD LFC FAN. QUESTIONS NEED TO BE ASKED IN THE SUMMER. Ed, what did happen with turan, are lfc ever going to buy LFC standard players bar suarez?

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U know the problem with some liverpool fans - they live in the past and constantly chat about players from the 80's - how good they were. and none of the current crop would get anywhere near the squad. get over it mate, stop living in the past. don't forget that Kenny formed the best team in pool history. Barnes was hardly a house hold name. u say Carroll is average yet since he 1st joined the prem league (b4 they were relegated) he has improved continously every season. and will continue to do so as he's only 22. oh and the great Turan. god he must be the best player in the world based on the amount of hype of this site. don't forget he plays in Turkey (top notch league) but so does Harry 'the wizard of oz' kewell. it is easier to look a world beater in a lesser league.

31 Mar 2011 16:32:38
****RE:Ha, you lfc fans make me laugh!

Your world class brazillian has signed a new long term contract, KUYT, the greatest technical and skillful player I have ever seen, is is his pension years is getting a new long term deal, Carroll was 35m and is Average like the rest of your squad and i hear that yous are after Jarvis. ha , im in fits of laughter when you say adam etc will give yous a stronger squad, Your first 11 is light years behind us and yous cheer players like your brazilllian for working hard, Well i would if i was now on 90k a week. Lfc will be trailing for years to come. What does it feel like to pay a dear enough fee into anfield and see players who are technically gifted(not ha) playing for your team and picking up a wage of 100k a week. I think i might be a footballer and pack in my job, im 23 but if kuyt and the brazilian can do it, then im already in a liverpool shirt!

Spurs for the league next season! !*****

.it's u poor deluded Spurs fans that make US laugh. . you've been in the CL for one season and you think you own it. .(you only own it when you've won it 5 times pal). you've done well, but enjoy it whilst you can, you won't be in the comp next season. . .now go off with the rest of your pals on your own site. .G SPET

check out the spurs fans, we beat two ageing milan teams, we have gareth bale the best in the world, we're in the champions league, lets get it right pal, ur in it because we had one very bad season, gareth bale is made outta tissue an is always injured an wen you play real lets see if you can beat them at their place then beat'em at home 4-0

31 Mar 2011 16:29:35
31 Mar 2011 13:33:25
Hi ed, whats the chance of having a hate room, so all the lucas bashers and any other player they want to have a go at can go in there on their own, then leave the other rooms for football,

people don't hate the man(lucas)most people want to voice there opinion free country last time i checked,
in my "opinion" like many others i think lucas eventually
will be used as a squad player or be sold soon, because
gerrard is slowing down and would suit that position to a tee, he's the best tackler we've got best passer we've got and he'll chip in an score a few as well .lucas is not a bad player we could sell him now though he has the contract for a good price and get someone who can do the things i've just mentioned
above remember its just an opinion on a web site not a hate crime. {Ed002's Note - The Liverpool fans have maintained the concept of their being at least one figure of hate at all times.}

31 Mar 2011 16:29:22
Ed do you think Suarez will start and play most of the match on Saturday? Cheers!

{Ed002's Note - I really don't know - it depends how his injury is.}
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Really hope he plays! Ed it says on Fantasy Football ( i know not the most reliable but its on the Official Premier League Website! ) that he is fit to play on Saturday and his injury is gone. Is this true Ed? Cheers ! {Ed001's Note - the official word is he is back on the 2nd, conveniently enough.....}

31 Mar 2011 16:19:25
Ok Ed it says on Fantasy Football ( i know its not the most reliable but its the Premier League website ) that he has no injury worries and that he's fit to play? Could this be right Ed ?
(P.S im second in my league of 50 people and only 4 points behind the leader! If Suarez plays he could play a major part in me winning it !) Cheers ! {Ed002's Note - If that is what it says - typically PhysioRoom would be a better sourec of information as they collect medical statements and summarise them on a club-by-club basis. They are respected enough to provide that data as a source to news agencies.}

31 Mar 2011 16:21:12
****RE:Ha, you lfc fans make me laugh!

Your world class brazillian has signed a new long term contract, KUYT, the greatest technical and skillful player I have ever seen, is is his pension years is getting a new long term deal, Carroll was 35m and is Average like the rest of your squad and i hear that yous are after Jarvis. ha , im in fits of laughter when you say adam etc will give yous a stronger squad, Your first 11 is light years behind us and yous cheer players like your brazilllian for working hard, Well i would if i was now on 90k a week. Lfc will be trailing for years to come. What does it feel like to pay a dear enough fee into anfield and see players who are technically gifted(not ha) playing for your team and picking up a wage of 100k a week. I think i might be a footballer and pack in my job, im 23 but if kuyt and the brazilian can do it, then im already in a liverpool shirt!

Spurs for the league next season! !*****

.it's u poor deluded Spurs fans that make US laugh. . you've been in the CL for one season and you think you own it. .(you only own it when you've won it 5 times pal). you've done well, but enjoy it whilst you can, you won't be in the comp next season. . .now go off with the rest of your pals on your own site. .G SPET

31 Mar 2011 16:14:56
Im beginning to just lose my patience with LFC. Im 56, I have been supporting my team for 36 years and this with the houlier reign has been the worst few seasons for liverpool in their history. We have new owners, a manager and director of football and new players However'
The owners are not sugar daddys and although I like the way they are going with the club, they have hired damien cammolli who is an amateur, kenny dalglish who has been my hero as a child but up until the end of the season is NOT the man to take Liverpool foward for the future, Is a great man manager but not a great Manager and is not proven at buying players. We have bought andy caroll is an Average player, good in the air and that's what we have payed for 35million, yes he will improve but not Real LFC standard of the early 80's. Suarez looks a very good player and will be our only acceptable buy in my opinion. Young, Adam, Jarvis are all definates for coming and none are In the (YOUNG, TALENTED, TECHNICAL CATEGORY) WHAT LIVERPOOL STANDARD IS ABOUT. We are a huge club and are looking at players like young and jarvis as forst options for the wings because they are cheap and english BUT NOT GOOD ENOUGH as you will see next season. I never trusted benetiz and houlier because of their playing stlyes and player choices but even THOUGH dalglish wants to play good attacking football, against the BETTER teams how can players such as Lucas, jarvis, carrol and young enable us to do that when they are not of the technical standard. Lfc has no great years to come with cammolli and dalglsih in charge because as we found out over the last few years, IT ALL COMES DOWN TO THE PLAYERS'

Experienced 1
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Nearly agree with all of that mate, I am a realist fan and i don't dilusion myself that dalglish will turn these players into world beaters and all this trust sh*te in dalglish. We don't have a good enough first 11 yet never mind thinking about squad players and the players we are linked with are APPAULING. Dalglish and camolli have bothed said at one time about players that want to be at the club. LOOK AT YOUNG AND ADAM WHO WOULD SNAP UNITEDS HANDS OFF IF THEY CAME IN WITH A BID. LOOK AT TURAN! HE IS BETTER THAN THE WINGERS WE ARE BUYING AND IS A DIE HARD LFC FAN. QUESTIONS NEED TO BE ASKED IN THE SUMMER. Ed, what did happen with turan, are lfc ever going to buy LFC standard players bar suarez?

31 Mar 2011 16:12:15
Ed do you think Suarez will start and play most of the match on Saturday? Cheers !

{Ed002's Note - I really don't know - it depends how his injury is.}

31 Mar 2011 16:14:03
EDs. would it be possible to ban everyone who posts this on here.
what chance of Aquilani coming back?
is Aquilani coming back?
or anybody who puts him in a mock starting line up for next year. etc
i am sick of hearing about Aquilani.
there is no chance he will come back. end of
mikey {Ed002's Note - Sadly you will have to live with it.}

31 Mar 2011 16:03:42
Hey Ed just read on CaughtOffside that Aurelio and Kelly have suffered a setback in recovery from their hamstring injuries

kelly is brilliant and the sooner he is back the better - but aurelio - forget him, waste of time - just spends too long on the sick bed - probably the worst decision hodgson made while he was here

31 Mar 2011 16:04:38
HeY Ed any idea how long Lucas' contract is? Cheers ! {Ed002's Note - 2015}

31 Mar 2011 16:08:59
Ha, you lfc fans make me laugh!

Your world class brazillian has signed a new long term contract, KUYT, the greatest technical and skillful player I have ever seen, is is his pension years is getting a new long term deal, Carroll was 35m and is Average like the rest of your squad and i hear that yous are after Jarvis. ha , im in fits of laughter when you say adam etc will give yous a stronger squad, Your first 11 is light years behind us and yous cheer players like your brazilllian for working hard, Well i would if i was now on 90k a week. Lfc will be trailing for years to come. What does it feel like to pay a dear enough fee into anfield and see players who are technically gifted(not ha) playing for your team and picking up a wage of 100k a week. I think i might be a footballer and pack in my job, im 23 but if kuyt and the brazilian can do it, then im already in a liverpool shirt!

Spurs for the league next season! !

31 Mar 2011 16:09:03
Whats the chance of Aquilani comming back?
I heard he wants to if Juve don't want him, but would we really want him back?
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The eds seem pretty confident that he doesn't want to com'e back so Im gonna trust there judgement on it, especially as I have zero connections or knowlege of Itallian football other than the word LAZIO. If Aqualni has now come out and said he dosent mind coming back, I think that it may be one of two reasons. Either Blair's reason that Juve bluffing which seems highly probable, or him playing it safe incase no one else comes in for him and he ends up back here, he obviously wouldn't want to annoy any potential supporters. I expect a big PR game to now be played by his agent and him untill he has confirmed where he is going.

Bob Loblaw

31 Mar 2011 15:54:53
"Maybe just sliding past rather than tasting the red wine . ."

Interesting to see we may still be interested in Ola Toivonen. Although a proven goalscorer and 25, I am a little saddned to think we may allow Nathan Eccleston to drift away.

I'm a strong supporter of the younger players who have come to the fore in the past 12 months and he is one of those. His recent loan spell at Charlton has not continued as it started, but I ask if he is not worthy of holding onto? Maybe, maybe not.There is a need for a third proven striker. Although Ngog may yet turn out to be that, it doesn't look as though it will be with us. If Pacheco is allowed to go, then Suso, Saric and Silva are the only ones that really leap from the page. But I don't believe we will rely on youth as the 'third man' in this context. But there is a problem in this scenario.

A third man who is proven and can score regularly. We drift back to the usual suspects and Romelo Lukaku springs to mind, vying for our attention with a host of names that 'probably' won't happen. So it seems that we need to push the boat out and grab a third striker. Can you see Toivonen sitting on the bench? I could see Eccleston or Saric doing it, but not a main stream player currently at another big club. There have been issues with Berbatov and Rooney not playing every game, so this is the issue.

Youth players, younger reserve players and not so established players will sit on the bench. Bigger names are reluctant. LS won't be a happy bunny on the sidelines and AC won't expect that for £35m. So when we talk of Lukaku, Honda, Turan and the endless others as first choices or back-ups, ask yourself if we will be able to maintain a much herladed 11 world class players with another five on the bench? I doubt it. Come back Nathan, all is forgiven.

Steve Parker

31 Mar 2011 16:00:01
Im beginning to just lose my patience with LFC. Im 56, I have been supporting my team for 36 years and this with the houlier reign has been the worst few seasons for liverpool in their history. We have new owners, a manager and director of football and new players However'
The owners are not sugar daddys and although I like the way they are going with the club, they have hired damien cammolli who is an amateur, kenny dalglish who has been my hero as a child but up until the end of the season is NOT the man to take Liverpool foward for the future, Is a great man manager but not a great Manager and is not proven at buying players. We have bought andy caroll is an Average player, good in the air and that's what we have payed for 35million, yes he will improve but not Real LFC standard of the early 80's. Suarez looks a very good player and will be our only acceptable buy in my opinion. Young, Adam, Jarvis are all definates for coming and none are In the (YOUNG, TALENTED, TECHNICAL CATEGORY) WHAT LIVERPOOL STANDARD IS ABOUT. We are a huge club and are looking at players like young and jarvis as forst options for the wings because they are cheap and english BUT NOT GOOD ENOUGH as you will see next season. I never trusted benetiz and houlier because of their playing stlyes and player choices but even THOUGH dalglish wants to play good attacking football, against the BETTER teams how can players such as Lucas, jarvis, carrol and young enable us to do that when they are not of the technical standard. Lfc has no great years to come with cammolli and dalglsih in charge because as we found out over the last few years, IT ALL COMES DOWN TO THE PLAYERS'

Experienced 1

31 Mar 2011 15:32:12
I agree with your analysis of Lucas and can also see why Adam has been on the radar as he sprays the type of Alonso pass around, he reminds me of Molby. Balance in the team and squad is required and I would have thought the addition of Adam would add some more quality. However, when we have struggled this season it is the wide players always tuck inside and do not have pace which reduces the passing options of the defenders and central midfielers. The addition of wide men with pace means the counter attack option is always a threat to teams. Utilising the the whole pitch instead of narrowing it would benefit us especially in tight games. This option does require a midfielder to sit and another to feed either the wide men or a striker with pace. I don't think we need major surgery to the team just the obvious really, LB, two wingers and a back striker.

Evo YNWA

LB- Baines
RW-Young
LW-Arda
ST-Vucinic

31 Mar 2011 15:38:36
Are we still interested in bryan ruiz ?

31 Mar 2011 15:41:21
Pablo hernandez from valencia looks pretty tasty

31 Mar 2011 15:42:34
Re: The Lucas topic

Lads, tell you what. I'll put all my views aside and watch the match come the weekend, i'll pay close attention to how Lucas plays and rate him on that performance. If he has a good game fair enough he's a good player, however if he has a brutal game all the people that have been defending Lucas have to come on here and eat their own words, same goes for the Lucas haters! There will be no excuses either as the lad should be bursting with confidence after signing a new deal.

This should put this argument to rest :)

Barry B

31 Mar 2011 15:20:29
Whats the chance of Aquilani comming back?
I heard he wants to if Juve don't want him, but would we really want him back?
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AC Milan are reportedly interested in him, especially if Pirlo decides to leave. But don't be fooled about Juve not wanting him. This sounds like a ploy by Juve to get the price dropped.

Blair Mayne YNWA

31 Mar 2011 15:16:48
I would like to bring ola toi, very good player, beter then benzema, gomez. . go for him

guliver

31 Mar 2011 15:10:42
Heard on SSN that mat jarvis might be a target for us this summer. to be honest i think he is just a number of possible targets being looked at but as he has just had his first england cap then no suprise SSN jumped on it. does anyone know if he is a genuine target or just one of many? JRC

31 Mar 2011 15:10:18
Whats the chance of Aquilani comming back?
I heard he wants to if Juve don't want him, but would we really want him back?

31 Mar 2011 15:04:28
JUST A THOUGHT WOULD ANY OF YOU WELCOME NICO KRANJKAR
HES A DECENT PLAYER AND WE COULD GET HIM ON THE CHEAP AS HE WANTS OUT OF SPURS AND ONLY HAS A YEAR LEFT ON HIS DEAL
HE WOULD GIVE US MORE ATTACKING PLAY FROM MIDFIELD AND WOULD BE A DECENT SQUAD PLAYER WITH PLENTY OF EPL EXPERIANCE WHAT DO YOU THINK ED
BEL FOR YES UNBEL FOR NO {Ed002's Note - He would be a decent addition to the squad.}
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I wouldn't want Kranjkar mate. Yes he would come cheap but probably with a high wage. It would be like turning back time to the days of Rafa. Were we sign over 25 year olds on the cheap and put then on big wages i.e Voronin, Jovanovic etc.

Kranjkar is a good player but we will pay him big money to sit on the bench. And i hope that those days are over. Especially if we want to see our youngsters coming through. So i'd forget about Kranjkar and have Sterling, Suso, Silva etc on the bench and give them much needed experience. Just my opinion mate.

Blair Mayne YNWA

31 Mar 2011 14:59:26
31 Mar 2011 14:02:48
As I have stated several times over the last month my source is still insisting that we are going to make a major move for Lukaku in the summer. My source is involved in betting not football but I am prepared to listen to him when he has given me two 12-1 winners and a 20-1 winner in the last 2 days.

i guess your willing to bet your house on that fact then?

any chance of sharing these 12-1 and 20-1 winners with the rest of us next time!

31 Mar 2011 15:02:41
Hey ed just wondering what first team player (if any) will be leavin in the summer?? If you expect 5 or 6 comin in surly some will be goin {Ed002's Note - Sure, there will be some outbounds, Konchesky, Jovanovic, Pacheco, ...}

31 Mar 2011 14:52:52
HAVE U HEARD ANYTHING ON THESE ITALIANS ED's?

We need strength in depth. Losing Lucas would weaken the squad. Even if we signed Benga, Adam or anyone to play the lucas role I doubt we'd sell him.

My cousins live in Napoli and they have heard that LFC are looking at a few U21's:

GK: Francesco Bardi (watched during the Viargio Tournament (spelling))
DM/ CB/ RB: Davide Faraoni
LWB: Cristiano Biraghi
ST: Alberto Paloschi
(first 3 from Inter 4th from AC/ Genoa).

According to my cousins Alberto is the most interesting 21, 6", strong, holds up the ball well and can finish. Better version of Nogo.

I also stated on here we are looking at 2 Japanese player from the J league, both u21's expecting 1 of them to sign.

{Ed002's Note - No of course not.}

31 Mar 2011 14:46:03
In reply to Steve Parker and the "There is no God." comment. Well your wrong, there is a God and his name is Robbie Fowler ;-)

31 Mar 2011 14:48:29
We need strength in depth. Losing Lucas would weaken the squad. Even if we signed Benga, Adam or anyone to play the lucas role I doubt we'd sell him.

My cousins live in Napoli and they have heard that LFC are looking at a few U21's:

GK: Francesco Bardi (watched during the Viargio Tournament (spelling))
DM/ CB/ RB: Davide Faraoni
LWB: Cristiano Biraghi
ST: Alberto Paloschi
(first 3 from Inter 4th from AC/ Genoa).

According to my cousins Alberto is the most interesting 21, 6", strong, holds up the ball well and can finish. Better version of Nogo.

I also stated on here we are looking at 2 Japanese player from the J league, both u21's expecting 1 of them to sign.

MGY

31 Mar 2011 14:41:47
JUST A THOUGHT WOULD ANY OF YOU WELCOME NICO KRANJKAR
HES A DECENT PLAYER AND WE COULD GET HIM ON THE CHEAP AS HE WANTS OUT OF SPURS AND ONLY HAS A YEAR LEFT ON HIS DEAL
HE WOULD GIVE US MORE ATTACKING PLAY FROM MIDFIELD AND WOULD BE A DECENT SQUAD PLAYER WITH PLENTY OF EPL EXPERIANCE WHAT DO YOU THINK ED
BEL FOR YES UNBEL FOR NO {Ed002's Note - He would be a decent addition to the squad.}

31 Mar 2011 14:39:08
31 Mar 2011 14:32:25
Jeez, that Parker bloke can gab, and that all it lads, so don't get upset. He's just winding up, no more no less. I've got him right on Talks**te though, poor quality broadcasting. I assume Irani is paid alot of money to be a stooge to a sodden fool, otherwise why would you do it? As for Keyes, are we at all surprised?

Mjr Hufton Tufton (rtd)

Lucky for us he does m8 otherwise we'd be bored shi*less waiting for the rubbish you spout!

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Well that's just mean, who rattled your cage today. I'm touched that you wait for my postings though, and perhaps that Parker chap feels the same way, we must be like you virtual friends bringing some light into your dull day, just for that you can call me Hufty.

Mjr Hufton Tufton (rtd)

31 Mar 2011 14:32:25
Jeez, that Parker bloke can gab, and that all it lads, so don't get upset. He's just winding up, no more no less. I've got him right on Talks**te though, poor quality broadcasting. I assume Irani is paid alot of money to be a stooge to a sodden fool, otherwise why would you do it? As for Keyes, are we at all surprised?

Mjr Hufton Tufton (rtd)

Lucky for us he does m8 otherwise we'd be bored shi*less waiting for the rubbish you spout!

31 Mar 2011 14:26:33
I agree with your analysis of Lucas and can also see why Adam has been on the radar as he sprays the type of Alonso pass around, he reminds me of Molby. Balance in the team and squad is required and I would have thought the addition of Adam would add some more quality. However, when we have struggled this season it is the wide players always tuck inside and do not have pace which reduces the passing options of the defenders and central midfielers. The addition of wide men with pace means the counter attack option is always a threat to teams. Utilising the the whole pitch instead of narrowing it would benefit us especially in tight games. This option does require a midfielder to sit and another to feed either the wide men or a striker with pace. I don't think we need major surgery to the team just the obvious really, LB, two wingers and a back striker.

Evo YNWA

31 Mar 2011 14:16:09
I have watched him mate and im sorry but hes still shockingly bad fair enuf wat i see in him his work rate is phenomenal n i have respect for him but im sorry hes terrible ive tried to like him but i can't i just think liverpool can get better players than him!
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The problem is not Lucas, the problem is "fans" like you who know zero about football. What you palpably fail to recognise is his intelligence and positional play and ability to follow his coach's instructions. He completely stopped Anelka contributing any build-up play in the Chelsea game, for example. He is one of the highest tacklers and passers of the ball in the stats, including percentage of passes and tackles completed.

It's become a total joke that he supposedly can only play 5-yard passes and then only sidewards or backwards. If you take the mud out of your eye (ie your prejudice) when watching him, you will see he makes a number of incisive, accurate forward passes of much greater length and mainly on the ground. In many ways the team around him lets him down, not moving into space to take a pass. then rather than losing possession, he will pass back.

And I've never seen a Lucas detractor mention the number of times in a game he wins headers both in defence and in midfield, something Masch could never do. All this adds up to why both the Brazil manager as well as Dalglish, see Lucas as an anchor in midfield. Not that that will stop you blind accusers, after all you know better than both the Brazil manager and Kenny, don't you?

31 Mar 2011 14:23:21
Jeez, that Parker bloke can gab, and that all it lads, so don't get upset. He's just winding up, no more no less. I've got him right on Talks**te though, poor quality broadcasting. I assume Irani is paid alot of money to be a stooge to a sodden fool, otherwise why would you do it? As for Keyes, are we at all surprised?

Mjr Hufton Tufton (rtd)

31 Mar 2011 14:02:48
As I have stated several times over the last month my source is still insisting that we are going to make a major move for Lukaku in the summer. My source is involved in betting not football but I am prepared to listen to him when he has given me two 12-1 winners and a 20-1 winner in the last 2 days

31 Mar 2011 14:04:19
Afternoon. Some great Great topics today guys. . . Lucas. . .right here goes. . . my view is the lad has put hundred percent in since he signed, from kennys point of view that's gotta be a good thing in fact from anyone's view. If he keeps improving then its good for the team and if we do want to sell or he wants to leave then we get more cash. Kenny has it in hand he has a plan and like all the other times he will come good. Have faith guys.

Matty b

31 Mar 2011 13:53:01
Years ago my best mate and father both had a desire to crucify Carra at every opportunity. My response to explain what a brilliant defender and organiser he is and that he is as important to the team as a 20 goal a season striker. After copious amonts of humble pie they have changed their opinions of Carra and his worth to the team. Deja vu? re: Lucas. He does the 'water carrying' and recycles the ball to the more expansive players, every successful team needs them. In years to come I suggest many will be eating some humble pie again?

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Fair point and I hope youre right in that he does keep improving. I was probably one of his biggest critics at one point but I think he has definatley improved. Whether or not he deserves his place in the starting 11 seems to be a dividing issue. I think the major issue with Lucas is that he folowed Alonso. I think Lucas does the simple things well now, he's not conceding possession as much and hes better at tackling than he used to be. However when he gets the balll he tends to play it sideways or make the simple pass which is fair enough and his pass rate is bob on, but when you follow alonso, youre following someone who could take ball off a defender and turn it straight to an attack with a pass that destroys the oposistion, that's something Lucas won't and can't do, its not his style. Personally I think there are far more pressing areas of concern when it comes to our side and other posistions that need attending to first. one thing I will say about Lucas is that his commitment and professionalism is second to none. Infact if some of the players we have had recently had half the professionalism he had that we might not of had half the problems. I admire Lucas for that. As for the issue if hes good enough for the first team, he is at the moment, If we get better players in then great, just means hel have to improve more to ensure a first team place and that's a definate good thing. Competition for places has been lacking for far too long now and the better the competition the better we will do.

Bob Loblaw

31 Mar 2011 13:56:53
"More a sidestep than a full blown sashay across the stage . ."

Think I should just nip in fast and prevent the Editors from having to sort out any flak from my earlier posting. This is for Mushroom and anyone else similarly inclined . .

** There is no God.
Lucas Leiva is a great player.
We will finish second this season.
LFC will buy Romelo Lukaku.
We are in for Robinho **

As with anything I write - you can comment on it and outline why you agree or disagree. But if you want me banned or to shut up, then put forward a reasoned argument. Don't just rely on your 'blind faith' andf belief in things I don't beleive in to make a fuss.

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Your posts always make for good reading Steve (for me anyway) but IF there is no God, then who am i on my knees praying to, that we don't go anywhere near Robinho?

Blair Mayne YNWA

31 Mar 2011 13:37:58
"More a sidestep than a full blown sashay across the stage . ."

Think I should just nip in fast and prevent the Editors from having to sort out any flak from my earlier posting. This is for Mushroom and anyone else similarly inclined . .

** There is no God.
Lucas Leiva is a great player.
We will finish second this season.
LFC will buy Romelo Lukaku.
We are in for Robinho **

As with anything I write - you can comment on it and outline why you agree or disagree. But if you want me banned or to shut up, then put forward a reasoned argument. Don't just rely on your 'blind faith' andf belief in things I don't beleive in to make a fuss.

Steve Parker

31 Mar 2011 13:33:25
Hi ed, whats the chance of having a hate room, so all the lucas bashers and any other player they want to have a go at can go in there on their own, then leave the other rooms for football,

31 Mar 2011 13:28:31
31 Mar 2011 12:55:02
Its a great tac-tic you Liverpool fans have adopted, mention just about every player in the world, and surley you will get some right, you should try waiting in anticepation rather then naming every one you can think of.

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Is a 'discussion' board you plank!

Suffolk'nRed

31 Mar 2011 13:30:57
3-5-2:

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-IamTheCosmos

31 Mar 2011 13:31:50
{Ed002's Note - Maybe Mr Abramovich could pay for the sponsorship and Liverpool could play at The Chelsea Arena - that would be neat.}
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It could be done Ed. He's already sponsored us 50 mill for an El Nino in need, so fingers crossed mate.

Blair Mayne YNWA

31 Mar 2011 13:23:08
{Ed002's Note - It would not be as attractive to anyone considering sponsorship - The Emirates Highbury Stadium?}
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So somthing like "The Adidas Arena" Ed? If we are going to build a new stadium of course.

Blair Mayne YNWA

{Ed002's Note - Maybe Mr Abramovic could pay for the sponsorship and Liverpool could play at The Chelsea Arena - that would be neat.}

31 Mar 2011 13:24:46
31 Mar 2011 11:27:10
From the Daily Telegraph:- "Liverpool in talks over new stadium naming rights despite being undecided over move away from Anfield. Liverpool have insisted no decision has yet been made on whether to abandon Anfield despite the club s managing director, Ian Ayre, revealing talks are underway over naming rights for a long-awaited new stadium." (full story in their website)

I would respectfully suggest that if a decision hasn't been made then we wouldn't be pimping the naming rights around.

RED LENIN

No red lenin all avenues will be looked at and pursued to find the best solution to the problem. its common thing to have naming rights on a stadium and it would offset the costing of the stadium itself so of course they want to see what type of interest there is.

End of the day the fans make liverpoolfc what it is and that includes where we play our home matches. To move forward and make NEW HISTORY the team needs more gate receipts and bigger revenues. I love anfield i really do but again when i have kids and take them to watch liverpool in the future for the sake of the club i hope it is in a new stadium. I will tell him storys of anfield. and i am sure in 30-40 years time he would tell his kids of the new stadium. . if that is the decision the owners make. just an opinion of course but its not just about football anymore its about business and anyone that thinks differently are burying their head in the sand.

31 Mar 2011 13:19:56
Ed002, I find this post absolutely appalling. How can you let this be posted? I am ashamed and sickened by this remark "If God existed" ;0)

MUSHROOM

What you on about Mushroom?
That posting was up the guy's usual top class writing and so you better explain why you found it appalling. You got any evidence that God exists? Steve Parker is entitled to say that and you're probably one of those rleigious fanatics that can't stand anyone saying anything about what they beleive in. Surpirsed you ain't asked for him to banned from the site for life or stoned to death.
Shut it!

31 Mar 2011 13:22:15
My god let lucas alone everyone hes a very good player and can only get better and better in years to come. People don't have the brain span to change their opinion on a player , prefer to just stick to what they do best ( putting down our players)
Anyway in the summer i would be more than happy with 4 players
Baines
Johnson
Benzema
Turan
Reina
Johnson Kelly Agger Baines

A.Johnson Gerrard Raul.M

Suarez Carroll Benzema
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Turan, lucas, carra, skrtel, aurelio, spearing

This formation would have alot of adaptation available to kk during the game when needed. With players like suarez gerrard johnson kelly being able to swap and adapt to many positions.
What do you think ed would you be happy with this team come the start of next season ? {Ed002's Note - I never comment on teams.}

31 Mar 2011 13:14:42
Regarding:

Ironic cheers for Lucas were justified you moron, and how would you no what they were like from sitting in your armchair! Lucas was awful and is now very very average, great improvement the Brazilian crab NOT

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I go to every home match and as many away games as possible every season and have done for the last 6 years, so to be called an armchair fan is quite comical, as is your whole post.

Let me ask you this then, do you think King Kenny is a good manager? If you don't rate Lucas and can't see his value to the team then the answer is clearly no! He is the man who picks Lucas week in week out and he is the man who has rewarded him with the new contract. Personally I trust Kenny's judgment over any bunch of idiots who see fit to boo one of their own players.

Scarface.

31 Mar 2011 13:14:53
Blair Mayne YNWA {Ed002's Note - It would make it much less attractive to anyone considering sponsorship if such provisos were made.}
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If i was looking to sponsor the stadium Ed then i'd be looking at ways to keep the Anfield name, not remove it. I didn't say it had to be a proviso i was looking at it from the perspective of the sponsor. Like i said Anfield like Liverpool is a global name, so why not keep or use it?

Blair Mayne YNWA

{Ed002's Note - It would not be as attractive to anyone considering sponsorship - The Emirates Highbury Stadium?}

31 Mar 2011 13:05:40
Ironic cheers for Lucas were justified you moron, and how would you no what they were like from sitting in your armchair! Lucas was awful and is now very very average, great improvement the Brazilian crab NOT
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A "real" LFC fan wouldn't call a fellow fan an "armchair" fan. Just because he dosn't agree with the posts about Lucas (like me).

Before you call me an "armchair" fan, remember i've got a corner suite. Sorry no "armchair"

Blair Mayne YNWA

31 Mar 2011 12:53:49
Hey Ed just read on CaughtOffside that Aurelio and Kelly have suffered a setback in recovery from their hamstring injuries . Any idea when Kelly will be back Ed? Cheers. {Ed002's Note - Nothing confirmed.}

31 Mar 2011 12:55:02
Its a great tac-tic you Liverpool fans have adopted, mention just about every player in the world, and surley you will get some right, you should try waiting in anticepation rather then naming every one you can think of.

31 Mar 2011 12:59:33
The problem with building a new stadium is that to make it worthwhile the owners would need to think in terms of an 80 to 85000 capacity. Given the size of the waiting list for season tickets this would seem sensible. However, anything with a capacity of over 60000 would mean that Liverpool would have to pay for access roads etc which is the reason the owners are looking to share the cost with a sponsor.
If 'Anfield' is retained in the name then that would be a bonus.

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IF we were to get a new stadium Sir Derek. Then don't be supprised if it was called somthing like "Adidas Anfield" they will defo keep Anfield in the name imo.

It just makes good commercial sense from the sponser to keep Anfield in the name. Because Anfield is a name known from the 4 corners of the globe.

I still think they will redevelop Anfield. But it's nice to know we are exploring other alternatives (which the owners said they would).

Blair Mayne YNWA {Ed002's Note - It would make it much less attractive to anyone considering sponsorship if such provisos were made.}

31 Mar 2011 12:38:07
Ironic cheers for Lucas were justified you moron, and how would you no what they were like from sitting in your armchair! Lucas was awful and is now very very average, great improvement the Brazilian crab NOT

31 Mar 2011 12:38:23
Steve Parker

{Ed002's Note - I thought long and hard about this one Steve. I have let it through unmollested but you will appreciate if the ensuing discussion takes any turn for the worse then the line will be drawn.}
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Ed002, I find this post absolutely appalling. How can you let this be posted? I am ashamed and sickened by this remark "If God existed" ;0)

MUSHROOM

31 Mar 2011 12:39:26
This season isn't turning out as bad as i thought it would. Hicks is now being sued for fraud in the US. What next? We've got Messi lined up in the summer? If not i'll be happy with Hicks doing 6 months in Sing Sing for fraud.

Blair Mayne YNWA

31 Mar 2011 12:42:13
I can't believe how many idiots there are out there that, despite vast improvement, still slate Lucas and still use him as a scapegoat when others around him aren't pulling their weight. Yes he wasn't one of my favourite players in his first year or two, but since then he has come on in leaps and bounds and is without doubt a key player for us now. I couldn't blame Lucas if he handed in a transfer request let alone sign a new deal given the level of abuse and sarcastic cheers he has received from his own SUPPORTERS. Could you play well with a few thou of your own fans booing and slagging u off? He gets more abuse off his own fans than the oppositions, which I think is disgusting.

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Excellent comment. Glad to see someone else can see his true value to the team and doesn't not just slagging him off when we have a bad game

31 Mar 2011 12:42:41
The problem with building a new stadium is that to make it worthwhile the owners would need to think in terms of an 80 to 85000 capacity. Given the size of the waiting list for season tickets this would seem sensible. However, anything with a capacity of over 60000 would mean that Liverpool would have to pay for access roads etc which is the reason the owners are looking to share the cost with a sponsor.
If 'Anfield' is retained in the name then that would be a bonus.

Sir Derek

31 Mar 2011 12:28:04
I can't believe how many idiots there are out there that, despite vast improvement, still slate Lucas and still use him as a scapegoat when others around him aren't pulling their weight. Yes he wasn't one of my favourite players in his first year or two, but since then he has come on in leaps and bounds and is without doubt a key player for us now. I couldn't blame Lucas if he handed in a transfer request let alone sign a new deal given the level of abuse and sarcastic cheers he has received from his own SUPPORTERS. Could you play well with a few thou of your own fans booing and slagging u off? He gets more abuse off his own fans than the oppositions, which I think is disgusting.

Scarface.

31 Mar 2011 12:28:09
Wouldn't it be ironic that the carp squad of players hodgson referred to at LFC when he was moaning and whining , will be the same ones that will put a nail in WBA's premiership coffin IRONIC springs to mind bless ya loads YNWA

31 Mar 2011 12:24:15
Blair Mayne YNWA {Ed001's Note - you have to open talks to judge its viability, how do you know how much it will raise otherwise? You can't just estimate it, that could end up being hundreds of millions of pounds worth of mistake with a false estimate.}
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If we are looking to build a new stadium and speaking to people about naming rights Ed. Do you not think that Ayre would have to show them what it looks like, how much it will cost to build etc. What i'm saying is Ayre is already speaking to people about this, surely he has got some sort of plans to show them, wouldn't he?

Blair Mayne YNWA

{Ed002's Note - I have no doubt there would be some mock ups of what the facilities would look like but the cost of building would not be a matter for the sponsors. I suspect ED001 is correct that they are simply testing the market - and probably finding that there are not going to be many takers given the economic climate at this time.}

31 Mar 2011 12:25:09
There's a interview with Rafa Benitez on SSN talking about his time at Liverpool, its a good watch.

31 Mar 2011 11:46:14
Hi Ed,

Fairplay, we do aim to building a larger squad as you said. .dont forget about the wage bill though. . would it not be better to get a very good-great player for each position and then a back up instead of similar players on high wages?i would love to see Lukaku at liverpool but does it make economic sense?push harder for hazard if you wana spend buckets of cash. since we don't have anyone in his position. . {Ed001's Note - is that not where we have been going wrong in recent years? Spreading the money too thin?}

31 Mar 2011 11:56:44
From the Daily Telegraph:- "Liverpool in talks over new stadium naming rights despite being undecided over move away from Anfield. Liverpool have insisted no decision has yet been made on whether to abandon Anfield despite the club s managing director, Ian Ayre, revealing talks are underway over naming rights for a long-awaited new stadium." (full story in their website)

I would respectfully suggest that if a decision hasn't been made then we wouldn't be pimping the naming rights around.

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Well spotted RED!

I was thinking the same thing last night when i read the Offical LFC Statement. But do you not think that they are maybe just keeping their options open mate? To see what kind of money that interested parties are prepared to pay for the naming rights, if we are indeed looking to build a new stadium.

Blair Mayne YNWA {Ed001's Note - you have to open talks to judge its viability, how do you know how much it will raise otherwise? You can't just estimate it, that could end up being hundreds of millions of pounds worth of mistake with a false estimate.}

31 Mar 2011 12:04:25
Fair enough, @ matty b.
Look, I'm not regular contributor, but I always read the editors' notes with a keen interest . . along with other few top posters on here that I respect, even though I wouldn't always agree with them.

In this case Ed005 was uncharacteristically bang out of order with his RAWK (and the like, e.g, Kopblog.com ) assertions. Any one who reads those sites would attest to the intelligent, well-reasoned and insightful nature of them comments there. Ignorance, idiocy and fickleness are hardly a feature of those sites.

So, matty b, mate, no disrespect to any of the top posters here (Parker, Lavers, Sir Bob the red, Martin, those I mentioned in my original post and many others. Keep it up, lads). The ed was out of order, and I made the point of telling him. Ciao!

JHBRed

31 Mar 2011 11:36:00
To Josek, enough with this Lucas bashing. Lucas has improved immeasurably over the last 18 months and is a useful player to have in our squad. If he continues to improve at his current rate he will be an even bigger asset over the next 4 years. Do you really think we should have allowed him to enter the final year of his contract and get sweet FA for him at the end of it. If we were to have 3 other players at the club who are better than him in his position I could understand this logic, but we don t have this luxury at present and as such it is 100% right that he been given a new contract. Reality Red

31 Mar 2011 11:37:50
In response to the 2nd comment on the below:

I really hope we don't rename anfield even if we do move in the future we will end up with some carp name from a dodgy company like they do in the lower leagues
I know it will still be known as anfield to all of us, but it won't be the same
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We're actively seeking naming rights for more money, maybe we do need the money and nesv are not that money rich

I believe (on official LFC website) they've ruled out renaming Anfield but are looking at potential partners if we move to a new Stadium.

That being said do you think Arsenal said sod it we've got enough money we don't need Emirates to pay us £100m for 10 years naming rights? It's business the more money we generate the more money we have in terms of profit or spending on the team; especially with the UEFA rules coming into place.

I think I've given you the answer there and been quite reserved to a stupid comment!

Hoola

31 Mar 2011 11:27:10
From the Daily Telegraph:- "Liverpool in talks over new stadium naming rights despite being undecided over move away from Anfield. Liverpool have insisted no decision has yet been made on whether to abandon Anfield despite the club s managing director, Ian Ayre, revealing talks are underway over naming rights for a long-awaited new stadium." (full story in their website)

I would respectfully suggest that if a decision hasn't been made then we wouldn't be pimping the naming rights around.

RED LENIN

31 Mar 2011 11:30:37
31 Mar 2011 10:41:32
"The Madness of King Roy XXXVII"

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I have never been a big fan of Lucas, however he is undoubtedly improving steadily and if he's here to stay I'm right behind him (I would still like to see us sign another
quality DM as well ). The rest of your post I agree with 100% and can't understand the Ed's concerns.

Chris in Tamworth

31 Mar 2011 11:21:14
Years ago my best mate and father both had a desire to crucify Carra at every opportunity. My response to explain what a brilliant defender and organiser he is and that he is as important to the team as a 20 goal a season striker. After copious amonts of humble pie they have changed their opinions of Carra and his worth to the team. Deja vu? re: Lucas. He does the 'water carrying' and recycles the ball to the more expansive players, every successful team needs them. In years to come I suggest many will be eating some humble pie again?

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Well said EVO!

People should understand that Lucas starts for Brazil (Anderson dosn't) Lucas only cost us 6 mill (Anderson cost Man'ure 19 mill).

Surely anyone who's got half a brain can see that compared to what Man'ure paid for Anderson (who's sh*ep) and what we paid for Lucas (who's getting better and better) That we got a bit of a bargin compared to what Man'ure paid Porto for Anderson. Porto must still be laughing, i know i am LOL.

Blair Mayne YNWA

31 Mar 2011 11:05:54
Years ago my best mate and father both had a desire to crucify Carra at every opportunity. My response to explain what a brilliant defender and organiser he is and that he is as important to the team as a 20 goal a season striker. After copious amonts of humble pie they have changed their opinions of Carra and his worth to the team. Deja vu? re: Lucas. He does the 'water carrying' and recycles the ball to the more expansive players, every successful team needs them. In years to come I suggest many will be eating some humble pie again?

EVO YNWA

31 Mar 2011 11:03:44
. . . . . . . . . . . . . .reina. . . . . . . . . . . . .
Johnson. mertesacker. agger. baines
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A. johnson. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Young
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Subs
Kuyt
Kelly
Wilson
Meireles
Jones
Marveaux
Sturridge

I seriously with all my heart expect this will be the team come august with carragher going into a more coaching/ player role!

Kenny will go for more homegrown players who are prem proven
Ant

31 Mar 2011 10:57:30
Morning All,

Times are reporting that Aquaman is prepared to come back to us if no deal can be struck and that the EPL is the 'best league in the world'.

I understand that there is a £5m final payment - after writing off the H&G era and the financial debts we have a clean state. Ergo, we get the player for that final £5m!

The questions:

Would we have him back?

What benefit would he bring?

Why would he not be worth it? (as we would have to spend another £10m + to get another player of that quality which could be utilised elsewhere on players. .

Any responses from each of the ed's 01 / 02 / 05. .

Suffolkn'Red

{Ed002's Note - If his agent cannot find a buyer he obviously has to return to Liverpool. �5m (not £) is still owed to Roma on the player (aside from performance related payments) but it does not mean that Liverpool get the player for �5m - the player cost the club �20m. If he could be sold for �15m it means the club do not have to deal with a player who does not want to be there.}

31 Mar 2011 10:41:32
"The Madness of King Roy XXXVII"

. . 'Well, my favorite roles so far are Lucas and Lost Boys.
Corey Haim' . .

Astonished at the bile and vitriol heaped upon Lucas Leiva over the past 24 hours. Some of you people should be ashamed at what you've said.
The man is no Igor Biscan, no Titi Camara, no Sean Dundee and certainly no Torben Piechnik. He is an international player that has taken more than enough time to adapt to the English game. He is not SG, nor is he Meireles, but he does possess enough guile to thread a nice ball through for a front runner and run the midfield in many games. My claim would be that the 'real' Lucas Leiva will be seen next season with a cunning striker (Suarez) providing the targets for him to hit with those passes.

Despite the inane comments yesterday about descriptive issues (Wilshere's odd twisted mouth), this savaging of Lucas Leiva falls into a chasm of banality. He has shown a determination and resilience that I admire. He has shown a certain decorum and dignity (no doubt borne out of his Latin temperament) when faced with the snarls and barbs of some fans. In the words of some fans - "he's signed. Get over it!"

I recently forecast in my role as Septic Sid that Richard Keys & Andy Gray (sorry, Keysie and Graysie) would not last more than a couple of months on talkSH**E. That looks as though it may bear fruit as a prophecy. BUT . . I am not sure that his comment yesterday about Heysel was really what was reported in some of the vile websites purporting to be based around Liverpool FC.

My reading is that he said (and I did not hear it) - Liverpool fans were looking for revenge the next time they were playing an Italian team.
I've looked at it a few times and it sounds like he did mean the fans were out for PHYSICAL revenge after the brutal attacks from Roma fans the year before. BUT . . it would not shock me to hear Keysie say he MEANT, they were looking to exact a football revenge. His career is on the verge of implosion and I think is near and end anyway. The station is in a pickle now, but although I do hope they take a stand with this issue, it shames the LFC community to have some respectable Liverpool fan based websites pouring such vile and abusive vitriol on this man in the obscene manner they have. We must stop portraying ourselves as the constant victims and argue our points (like so many literate and compelling people who work for the HJC do) when confronted with things that paint us as animals and scum. But the words some people and websites are using would shame and embarrass God if he existed. They should try a more reasoned argument rather than foul tirades.

Regardless of the semantics and verbal dexterity Keysie may employ, I am happy to slap a few people on here in the face who suggested over the past 48 hours I have an ill-conceived hatred of talkSH*T. This is why - they employ poor presenters, shameful specimens of what football has become. They chase the ratings and are little interested in the details and deep, lengthy discussions I for one, would like more of. Even this morning, while the Scots barrel was discussing (or simply talking at Irani) about the boy with the odd twisted mouth (one for you Isaac!) he cut that topic short and asked about the cricket last night. Just as he was about to develop this topic and the implications it would have for Wilshere and AC, they simply motored off down a sideroad. Flash radio, short-term, pack it in as fast as possible and get onto an advert, radio. Now pick a verbal fight with me!

Finally the Reina issue. So he has wanted to leave for more than 18 months? Bye bye. As John Henry said (paraphrased), "We don't want people who are unhappy." We said goodbye to Torres and seem to have survived that. Reina can go for say £12 million and we can look elsewhere. There are shades of a Michael Owen scenario here; maybe we are going to do well next season and they will regret it. What we won't regret is the attention it demands to listen to the gossip. There is always something else that comes along . . as Steve Jobs of Apple said: "You can't ask people what they want if it's around the next corner."

There are two mistakes one can make along the road to truth. .not going all the way, and not starting. Buddha

Steve Parker

{Ed002's Note - I thought long and hard about this one Steve. I have let it through unmollested but you will appreciate if the ensuing discussion takes any turn for the worse then the line will be drawn.}

31 Mar 2011 10:41:41
Hopefully Lucas is just being signed to be sold on later. If the bright new future we are all looking forward to is to materialise then we need to be signing a lot better quality than Lucas. I know a large body of certain supporters like to defend him and sing his praises and yes he has improved this year, but my god he needed to. The fact is, he is too slow, both physically and in his tought process to play at this level for a club like LFC. He continueosly gets caught on the ball, gives away stupid free kicks in dangerous areas, and doesn't contribute enough goals for a midfielder. Having said that I soppose we do need a large squad & he can do a job as a squad player. As someone in my 40's I remember what LFC quality meant when we we number one, and I sorry guys but he is just not that, and if we aim to be no one again then we need to have at least 11 players that would get into anyone else's first team.

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I agree Josek that there is better players out there than Lucas i.e Benega, Defour etc. But you say "we need to have at least 11 players that would get into anyone else's first team" Would Lucas not get on for Man'ure ahead of Carrick and Anderson? Would Lucas not get on before Diaby and Denillson for Arsenal?

Yes we could and probably will buy a better CM than Lucas. But this is a squad game now Josek and Lucas is an important part of our squad. It's no good having 11 good players, we need at least 16 to compete.

Blair Mayne YNWA

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I think this is really harsh on Lucas. I think this guy really deserves his contract and at 24 years old has been one of our best players this year.

Lucas has taken so much criticism every year and unlike the man who we will not mention who was idolised by all of us has just gone on with his job and worked hard as a team player.

I agree with Blair on the squad and i would trust him to be a great player in our squad.

LFC147

31 Mar 2011 10:48:01
With the exception of Blair, Mushroom, IrishKev, the eds and a couple of other intelligent, knowledgeable contributors, this site's laden with idiots, clowns, fantasists and comedians.

Who you talking about m8?
you obviosly not read any of Steve Parker's stuff or YNWA or a number of other really good writers. Its banter and some of it makes you think. You shud read more and speak less m8!

31 Mar 2011 10:11:25
Ed, with commolli being French and having the power he now does do you think he will target and convince kk and FSG that the french players are the way to go more so than other nationalities ? {Ed002's Note - If he does not look for the best players regardless of nationality he will not be doing his job. Obviously he has a better knowledge of French football than most.}

31 Mar 2011 10:11:55
With the exception of Blair, Mushroom, IrishKev, the eds and a couple of other intelligent, knowledgeable contributors, this site's laden with idiots, clowns, fantasists and comedians.

If one wanted to learn more about the game, Liverpool specifically, its fans, its ways etc, sites like this are a no-go zone. Here its for some "fickle" half-wits to indulge their inane, cretinous fantasies. No football insight whatsover.

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bit harsh, surely its just abit of fun. each to there own and all that. tomkins is very good and been reading his stuff for years but this site is great as you have various people from all over the place havin some banter. cheaper than goin the pub and having the same convo's there! !

matty b

31 Mar 2011 10:12:50
Hopefully Lucas is just being signed to be sold on later. If the bright new future we are all looking forward to is to materialise then we need to be signing a lot better quality than Lucas. I know a large body of certain supporters like to defend him and sing his praises and yes he has improved this year, but my god he needed to. The fact is, he is too slow, both physically and in his tought process to play at this level for a club like LFC. He continueosly gets caught on the ball, gives away stupid free kicks in dangerous areas, and doesn't contribute enough goals for a midfielder. Having said that I soppose we do need a large squad & he can do a job as a squad player. As someone in my 40's I remember what LFC quality meant when we we number one, and I sorry guys but he is just not that, and if we aim to be no one again then we need to have at least 11 players that would get into anyone else's first team.

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I agree Josek that there is better players out there than Lucas i.e Benega, Defour etc. But you say "we need to have at least 11 players that would get into anyone else's first team" Would Lucas not get on for Man'ure ahead of Carrick and Anderson? Would Lucas not get on before Diaby and Denillson for Arsenal?

Yes we could and probably will buy a better CM than Lucas. But this is a squad game now Josek and Lucas is an important part of our squad. It's no good having 11 good players, we need at least 16 to compete.

Blair Mayne YNWA

31 Mar 2011 10:16:47
Lucas and Adam are different type of players , why do people think Adam would be a replacement?

LAVERS

31 Mar 2011 09:58:32
Though i am not Lucas biggest admirer congrats to him on getting a new contract. Hopefully KK and Clarke can mentor him into becoming a better & more consistent player in a LFC jersey

Barry B

31 Mar 2011 10:01:23
I really hope we don't rename anfield even if we do move in the future we will end up with some carp name from a dodgy company like they do in the lower leagues
I know it will still be known as anfield to all of us, but it won't be the same
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Not necessarily mate. Arsenal have 2-3 multi-billionaires on their board. But still they proceeded in finding some one to buy the naming rights for their new stadium (Emirates). I think it's just the way to go about it.

Remember H&G said "If we got 1-2 world class players in. By selling the naming rights for a new stadium, then so be it" No one complained when H&G said it, so why complain now? When we all know that FSG/ NESV are not H&G.

Blair Mayne YNWA

31 Mar 2011 09:16:06
Lucas gets a five year deal, and this had meant there is alot of very upset people here. I say the thing to do is find the guy who made the decision and get rid, so its DALGLISH OUT!

Mjr Hufton Tufton (rtd)

31 Mar 2011 09:25:54
"{Ed005's Note - . . Forums like RAWK are full of fickle idiots who know barely anything about football. .}"

Unadulterated nonsense. I'm no contributor on RAWK, but I've got to take offence with that. RAWK, and it's like, Gerry Ormonde's Kopblog.com, is one of the best LFC sites around when you're looking for intelligent, insightful and well-reasoned debate.

Whilst there's an odd cretin and fickleness here and there, the majority of the posters are highly knowledgeable folks, some of whom have been involved in the game at a respectable level.

Contributors like Tommo, Oddball, Fat Scouser, Aitch, LondonBarnes, KeithSA, Theredmen, Gazmanious, Guinnessdrinker, Arthur G Posis etc are not some ignorant, one-sentence, football manager fantasists like you would find here and other poppycock sites such as Caughtoffside.

With the exception of Blair, Mushroom, IrishKev, the eds and a couple of other intelligent, knowledgeable contributors, this site's laden with idiots, clowns, fantasists and comedians.

If one wanted to learn more about the game, Liverpool specifically, its fans, its ways etc, sites like this are a no-go zone. Here its for some "fickle" half-wits to indulge their inane, cretinous fantasies. No football insight whatsover.

And some editor here has the audacity to take a swipe at RAWK, itr like forum, Kopblog? A forum which once had the class Ray "Shanklyboy" Osbourne (may his soul rest in peace) as its contributor? You label two of LFC's most respected sites as being "full of fickle idiots who know barely anything about football"?

If that was the case, why then did Messrs Henry and Werner arrange to meet with some of those "fickle idiots who know barely anything about football" shortly after their takeover? Why?

Simple: you want insightful and reliable knowledge about the game, LFC specifically, you go to Tomkins, you go to Kopblog, you go to RAWK (there are a couple of others I forget). You want comedy, ignorance and folly, you come here.

Indeed, opinions are like buttholes . . some STINK, HORRIBLY!

JHBRed

31 Mar 2011 09:36:49
31 Mar 2011 08:57:28
Do u really want the owners to be big spenders? i just don't think it is the liverpool way. . . . . maybe i am wrong
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To be honest I just want the right players regardless of the money spent, if the players we need cost 30 million or 5 million I don't care as long as the quality is there and we get more players who we can count on to perform each week. Obviously it would be great if they all came cheap and even better if they come throughout the youth.

31 Mar 2011 09:13:54
Morning Ed's would like to know your thoughts on the following its great to see us been linked to so many top quality players the one position that comes up the most is the left back position , ive been looking at the reserves and u 18's a lot and the one thing that stands out is the amount of quality left footed players in those teams , t ince, silva , bruna suso, morgan, my point is why aren't we trying to mould some of these players (silva , ince) into left backs , left sided mid (suso morgan bruna) because when all these come through together they all can't play on the left or right wing and we will always buy strikers and it might save the club a fortune in the future . . .?? ? Ccm1
{Ed002's Note - It is down to whether the manager wants to give the youth a chance and if the youth are up to playing at such a high level. A few will make it through - but many won't.}

31 Mar 2011 08:57:28
Do u really want the owners to be big spenders? i just don't think it is the liverpool way. . . . . maybe i am wrong

31 Mar 2011 09:04:10
Hopefully Lucas is just being signed to be sold on later. If the bright new future we are all looking forward to is to materialise then we need to be signing a lot better quality than Lucas. I know a large body of certain supporters like to defend him and sing his praises and yes he has improved this year, but my god he needed to. The fact is, he is too slow, both physically and in his tought process to play at this level for a club like LFC. He continueosly gets caught on the ball, gives away stupid free kicks in dangerous areas, and doesn't contribute enough goals for a midfielder. Having said that I soppose we do need a large squad & he can do a job as a squad player. As someone in my 40's I remember what LFC quality meant when we we number one, and I sorry guys but he is just not that, and if we aim to be no one again then we need to have at least 11 players that would get into anyone else's first team.

Josek

31 Mar 2011 09:06:42
Liverpool Team 2011/ 12

New GK
Kelly Cahill Agger Jose Enrique
Gerrard M'Vila
Payet Suarez Lukaku
Carroll

31 Mar 2011 09:09:57
With regard to the naming rights - I once met a well known actress from the 50's and 60's. When I told Shirley Anne Field that she must be very proud to be named after a famous football ground she was not very amused. She didn't get it!

31 Mar 2011 07:30:54
{Ed002's Note - There are plenty of very good players around - already this morning I said that Pastore is a fine player, and over the weekend I said that Neymar and Ganso wer fine players as well. It is much easier to answer questions when they are put directly.}

hi again. you also said there was zero chance of signing them i think? ? . . . . . in that case who do you rate that you think we could sign? ?

matty b

{Ed002's Note - The pages are full of discussion about possible transfers. I am not going to get in to making predications on a list of players who may sign as it simply leads to problems.}

31 Mar 2011 08:04:35
I really hope we don't rename anfield even if we do move in the future we will end up with some carp name from a dodgy company like they do in the lower leagues
I know it will still be known as anfield to all of us, but it won't be the same
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We're actively seeking naming rights for more money, maybe we do need the money and nesv are not that money rich

31 Mar 2011 08:21:17
My point regarding the centre halfs is i don't think that is our main priority, wingers are key. Yeh in an ideal world you might get another centre half but id rather spend good money on good wingers rather than some money on okish players like we have done in the past trying to fill all the gaps in the team all at once. I think kelly has been class at full back but that is more testimant to him as a player as i think he will end up an even more class centre half. Did you agree with any of the other points?

31 Mar 2011 01:58:32
Hey ed, do u think we should pursue adam johnson and if we did would we have a chance of signing him. TBH i think city will have another big summer and johnson will want to leave. i knows hes injured right now but i think we should pursue him.
thats my opinion, what do u think? {Ed001's Note - if we had a chance of getting him I would agree we should go for him. I remember seeing him as a kid training with the Boro first team and he stood out a mile as their best player, light years ahead of Downing. But City would be very unlikely to sell him to us, he is seen as an important figure for them, especially as he is homegrown.}

31 Mar 2011 01:42:22
Hi ed ,

i'm an irish fan too and as much as i'd like mc geady to be a great player he is not liverpool standard. Sure he can beat a man and do a bit of trickery but his final balls and crosses are a major weakness in his game. We can't be splashing out money on him when there are so many cheaper and better wingers on the market. I'd love to see young but i reckon the mancs are closing in, pastore seems a football manager dream at the moment and honda deals not gonna happen. I wudnt say any big name wingers will be joining, i reckon commollis gonna buy a few young players from the french market instead. Any info u cud share with us ed? Cheers

Dan from Derry {Ed001's Note - nothing new to add mate, you are right about us looking very closely at France though.}

31 Mar 2011 01:27:58
"I don't know why so many people think we need new centre halfs."

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Carragher is aging
Agger is too injury prone.
Skrtel is inconsistent.
Kyrgiakos is leaving.
Wilson is still learning
Ayala is on the same process.
Kelly looks a better fullback

And
**We need a Commander and Rock Presence like Vidic, Terry, Luiz, Dawson, Kompany.

** Cahill, Dann, Shawcross are the best options if we are to bring in an English player.

** Sakho, Mertesacker, Musacchio are also great options if we are to go for a foreign player.

31 Mar 2011 01:09:29
I don't know why so many people think we need new centre halfs. To me, it is the last position we should be aiming at and would be only if we get wingers predominantly and fill other areas of weakness. As good as kelly is at right back I still see him as a future centre half, agger, skrtel, carragher, wilson has one more year of experience, ayala coming back from loan, soto to do a job if needed, even darby is coming back with more experience and anywhere across the back four he would run through walls for the club. To me we need a left back first and foremost (in terms of defensive priorities) and to see if johnson stays for right back. Other than that wingers have to be a priority, then depends on the likes of aqua what we do for midfield, another striker would be good but I don't want us to forget the likes of ince, robinson, pacheco, mavinga, all players who have shown potential and I would prefer them to be the squad players than falling into the trap of buying second rate players who don't really add enough quality. Over the years we have seen the likes of otsemabor, wright, thompson etc leave, all who would have stayed and been squad players. Instead we buy xavier. Need I say more. That's why I hope we keep spearing as he will always come in and do a job. I think one of the key reasons for the sh*tes success is that they have squad players like oshea and brown who will work hard and are happy to play 20 games a season. Any player we buy must improve the starting 11 or at least match it, otherwise let's use the squad we have with the young players who will show the passion and determination required.

31 Mar 2011 00:58:11
Ed005 its a valid point that McGeady hasnt yet proved himself in a strong league and while in Scotland I didn't think he would be good enough either. But since moving to Russia he appears to have improved alot. He has improved tactically and makes better decisions ie passes more instead of trying to take on 3 or 4 people while moving into a dead end. While you might say its still only the Russian league but Spartak have progressed one step further in the europa cup than us and werent bad in the champs league before been knocked out, he has been Irelands best player in the last couple of games and has also been Spartak's best player in the champions league and now the europa cup. I think he would add to our team the width and creativity we are crying out for. But your entitled to your opition so out of interest who would you personally prefer to play on the right wing for Liverpool? Also do you not think Honda would be good enough because he plays in Russia? {Ed005's Note - Regardless of how much he's improved it's a poor league - and I seriously doubt that most of the Rep. of Ireland fans sit and watch Russian football on a weekly basis to even judge what he's doing over there. In regards to who I'd rather have on the right-wing, well I would rather have players such as Jarvis for example, they would cost less than him. There are many other players who would be far better buys in the same price range. As for the Honda point, it is true that Honda is in a poor league also, but he put in masterclass performances in the CL against the big boys such as Inter Milan including top performances at the World Cup. I seen McGeady against Chelsea and with all respect to him he was dormant for most of the game.}

Im sure most Irish fans wouldnt, and I would be one on that list, but I have watched a few of the games and he played well, I have been judging him more based on his champions league and europa cup games where he has again played well and been the best player in the majority of the games for a side who wouldn't be the best. Against Chelsea he was on the periphery of the game but that's because Spartak couldnt keep the ball. I think Honda is class also but Jarvis? Really? Apart from the fact he is a left winger I cannot agree he is better than McGeady, if im misreading and you mean he would be better because of the price tag and not because of quality than fair enough (even though he would still cost at least 10 mil now he is in the england squad) but Matt Jarvis, for me, is predictable and not creative enough. He reminds me of Pennant before we bought him, only trick he has is knock the ball on the outside and try whip in a cross. Also I have seen him being dominant in any game this season against anyone in the top half of the table. McGeady is full of tricks, strong on both feet, has added an end product to his game, is still young and can improve further. I think he would be a great signing at a decent price (under 13mil) not saying he would be the best we could get but the best in that price range with the most potiental.

31 Mar 2011 00:30:08
Dzsudzsak has signed 12.5m.
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im not all that sure id like him at lfc, may be good for suarez but not so much carroll, ive only seen him a couple of times but he dosn't seem to ping in for target men seems to like to keep the ball lower, takes a mean free kick tho,

31 Mar 2011 00:02:36
{Ed005's Note - I didn't see the game. And none are good enough for Liverpool.}

Ed005 I have to disagree with you, while I am Irish I would normally completely agree with you on this point but there are two players in the squad I think would be great additions to Liverpool James McCarthy and Aiden McGeady. I think McCarthy is one of the most promising center midfielders playing in the PL at the moment. He is only 20 and looks to be improving with every game and if we got him at the end of the season he would cost under 10 mil i think. When you look at someone like Rodwell who i believe is equall in ability (although more physically mature) would cost at least twice as much. As for McGeady I always taught he wouldn't be good enough, looked good in Scotland but would struggle in a better league. But since moving to Russia he has excelled. He has always had good skill and control, but seems to have added more grit to his game (rarely gets bullied off the ball) better end product (since moving to his natural side on the right) and seems to be using his head a bit more as he is looking to play the pass as he beats a player instead of running into dead ends. For me he would be a great signing if he can continue this progress and would we would have to pay 3 or 4 times as much for someone with the same ability to beat an opponent. Ed what do you think? Are they targets for what you know? {Ed005's Note - As I said before, I hear good things about McCarthy but I haven't seen much of him. As for McGeady, never been convinced about him. He's not yet proven himself in a top league. Sure its all well playing against League One standard opposition in Scotland and a poor league in Russia. Spartak Moscow would want atleast the £10m they paid for him, perhaps more. Surely you aren't saying we'd have to play 3 or 4 times that for a player of equal ability? Personally, I think a player of better ability could be attained for equal the price McGeady would cost. You may think someone like McGeady is good enough for Liverpool but with all respect I've heard Republic of Ireland fans telling me that the likes of Kevin Doyle, Shane Long and Richard Dunne are good enough for Liverpool (among other players) for many years, and even Robbie Keane. He was proven in a top league like the PL, unlike McGeady, and he couldn't hack it.}

Ed005 its a valid point that McGeady hasnt yet proved himself in a strong league and while in Scotland I didn't think he would be good enough either. But since moving to Russia he appears to have improved alot. He has improved tactically and makes better decisions ie passes more instead of trying to take on 3 or 4 people while moving into a dead end. While you might say its still only the Russian league but Spartak have progressed one step further in the europa cup than us and werent bad in the champs league before been knocked out, he has been Irelands best player in the last couple of games and has also been Spartak's best player in the champions league and now the europa cup. I think he would add to our team the width and creativity we are crying out for. But your entitled to your opition so out of interest who would you personally prefer to play on the right wing for Liverpool? Also do you not think Honda would be good enough because he plays in Russia? {Ed005's Note - Regardless of how much he's improved it's a poor league - and I seriously doubt that most of the Rep. of Ireland fans sit and watch Russian football on a weekly basis to even judge what he's doing over there. In regards to who I'd rather have on the right-wing, well I would rather have players such as Jarvis for example, they would cost less than him. There are many other players who would be far better buys in the same price range. As for the Honda point, it is true that Honda is in a poor league also, but he put in masterclass performances in the CL against the big boys such as Inter Milan including top performances at the World Cup. I seen McGeady against Chelsea and with all respect to him he was dormant for most of the game.}

31 Mar 2011 00:12:15
31 Mar 2011 00:01:22
Lucas is SH*T! tbh i think hes useless gives the ball away too much can't pass further than 10 yards and gives away a foul every time he tries to tackle sum1 god knows y people think hes decent? ?!? ?
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You must just read the other crap other people write and go off that, do you guys watch Lucas play? Fair enough last season he was off the pace a little but hes improved a lot. The reason everyone gets on his back is because they don't see him going forward, breaking defenses and scoring goals, but that is not his game.
He is a midfield destroyer, and the fact that he never over commits and leaves the back open is testament to how good he is at that. He is not the best long passer but he does a great job in stopping attacks and stabilising our midfield with his short passed.
You watch the next game and watch just him, he is always available for an easy pass out of trouble and always there stopping them coming through the middle.
He does exactly the same job as Essien, I understand Essien is better, but just saying, get off his back, he does a really good job and im glad that NESV, KK and DC understand that, as do the Brazilian National Team.

**Stepd Off Soap Box**

Anfield Andy

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I have watched him mate and im sorry but hes still shockingly bad fair enuf wat i see in him his work rate is phenomenal n i have respect for him but im sorry hes terrible ive tried to like him but i can't i just think liverpool can get better players than him!

31 Mar 2011 00:01:22
Lucas is SH*T! tbh i think hes useless gives the ball away too much can't pass further than 10 yards and gives away a foul every time he tries to tackle sum1 god knows y people think hes decent? ?!? ?
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You must just read the other crap other people write and go off that, do you guys watch Lucas play? Fair enough last season he was off the pace a little but hes improved a lot. The reason everyone gets on his back is because they don't see him going forward, breaking defenses and scoring goals, but that is not his game.
He is a midfield destroyer, and the fact that he never over commits and leaves the back open is testament to how good he is at that. He is not the best long passer but he does a great job in stopping attacks and stabilising our midfield with his short passed.
You watch the next game and watch just him, he is always available for an easy pass out of trouble and always there stopping them coming through the middle.
He does exactly the same job as Essien, I understand Essien is better, but just saying, get off his back, he does a really good job and im glad that NESV, KK and DC understand that, as do the Brazilian National Team.

**Stepd Off Soap Box**

Anfield Andy