Liverpool Banter Archive March 31 2012

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31 Mar 2012 23:24:31
31 Mar 2012 16:31:51
is anyone not worrying that we'll be 9th tonight?

You have received no replies to this because no-one knows who you are or who you are referring to! It could be Sunderland,Hull City,Brentford,Gillingham,
Gateshead,Aberdeen,Raith Rovers,Clyde,Lisburn Distillery,Port Talbot and that is just the clubs from the UK. Please let us normal people know who YOU are and who you are talking about. Thank you.
Dutchmal

Dutchmal- you tryin to be a smart ass is not so funny right now considering where we are in the table, i Personaly believe if kenny loses the next match, he will be asked to step aside. We will be 11 points away from newcastle and potentially falling further down the table with 1 of the worst league runs for over 30 years. Anyone still ready to keep backing kenny all the way? It was he who said no 1 person is bigger than the club, so on that note i hope he will have the decency on behalf of lfc to step down and either bring rafa back who is proven or someone able to spot a quality player. RedTurk

Ur spot on Redturk. 9th after spending over 100 million is unacceptable. Im pretty sure there will be a new manager come august. Kenny has not evolved his managerial skills. The guy still lives in the 1980's.
Indian Buzzer

Rafa?? Don't make me laugh.

31 Mar 2012 22:56:22
What's the latest on Bellamy's "knock"? He must play if fit!

31 Mar 2012 22:43:12
If our transfer policy is to buy the best British talent and the best talent in the Premier League then surely the club must be monitoring Sessegnon. He has been superb all season even when they were going poorly. I know there are rumoured issues of home sickness but how home sick can the lad be if he is turning these kinda displays in week in week out. I'm hoping for us to expand our transfer policy beyond the Premier League this Summer but if you are looking at good players in the league Sessegnon has to be right up there.
The Gooch

That's not the transfer policy. The owners transfer policy is to take a punt on a youngster who will agree too average wages in comparison to established stars. Don't ever expect a top player who would ordinarily command a wage either on a par or in excess of those being payed by the likes of Villa. Your in dreamland if you think a household name will arrive at Anfield in the summer.

Ozone

Rodrigez domestos any good

gee man

I doubt if Scholes Giggsy Evans Rooney Smalling Jones Welbeck Cleverly Young Ferdinand Carrick would be willing to take a step down - try shopping in the basement where u belong lol

Ozone. That isn't a fixed policy. Look at Bellamy. I know he was free but he has played a lot of games. Downing isn't exactly young either. We will buy anyone who will improve the team like Kenny said so.

BthekingB

31 Mar 2012 22:35:22
Eds, do liverpool have to enter the uefa europa league qualification in the 3rd or 4rd round? {Ed001's Note - depends on FA Cup and league placings yet.}

31 Mar 2012 22:29:46
Sell : Doni(free), Jones(free), Aurelio(free), Adam(5mil), Aqualiani(5mil), Cole(4mil), Maxi(free), Kuyt(8mil)

Buy : Rossi(12mil), Isla(13mil), Hoilett(free), Eriksen(17mil), Nordfeldt(free)

First XI :
1. Reina, Nordfeldt, Gulasci
2. Johnson, Kelly, Flanagan
3. Agger, Coates, Wilson
4. Skrtel, Carragher, Wisdom
5. Enrique, Robinson
6. Isla, Sterling
7. Lucas, Spearing, Coady
8. Eriksen, Hoilett, Suso
9. Gerrard, Shelvey, Joao Carlos
10. Suarez, Bellamy
11. Rossi, Carroll

Wouldnt get 5m for adam, 4m for cole or 8m for kuyt... Rossi would cost about 20m and would want champions lge football, so would eriksen and ajax priced him between 32-35m. no chance of us signing those 2 and i think hoilett will have offers united, spurs, arsenal and newcastle so dont fancy our chances there either im afraid... paul {Ed001's Note - Rossi has been out injured for a season and Villareal need to get his wages off their books, he might go for a fair bit less than 20m.}

Nordfeldt signed for sc Heereveen in the Netherlands in January.
Dutchmal

If we get one of the worlds best young talents for 17 million I will run around naked in Kennys Office screaming. WE WILL WIN THE LEAGUE!

BthekingB

"I will run around naked in Kennys Office screaming. WE WILL WIN THE LEAGUE!"

I did that at the start of this season and alas look where we are!

31 Mar 2012 22:22:26
To all the KK outers you have no brains. You are the Blackburn - get rid the manager, Arsenal fans - get rid of Wenger, Wolves fans - get rid of McCarthy. Look at Wolves, now they would have him back. Do you want to be Chelsea and change the manager every year? We have a manager who has been working for less than 18 months to develop and change a team. Progress never goes up in a straight line but the general direction is positive. If you want an example of persisting with a manager - look at MUFC. Their fans want KK out. Wonder why?
I am sure the club is more sensible and will look at the position at the end of the season and make a balanced decision. I am confident that the good times will return if we take the long term view and not react to individual results.

Kev

31 Mar 2012 22:20:10
Nothing to do with us! No goals for Van Persie = No Points for Arsenal. Just illustrates the fact when he doesn't score there as bad if not worse than us.
kidmillions

Yes soo true!! They have no player capable or scoring goals. If van persie leaves, there's no telling what could happend to arsenal.

Same as us when torres went.

Funny how that works considering our last 2 wins rvp did not score and we have the most different scorers in the league more than anyone else

watford gooner

Common Watford Gooner, you all know without RvP this season you would be midtable at best.

Chuck Norris

31 Mar 2012 22:13:21
This Season we entered 3 competitions we have won one and are through to the last 4 of the FA Cup but the main one the bread and butter one, the Premier league we have failed and I think, we all rightly disappointed; having said that if we go on to win 2 out the 3 competitions we entered?
Well then Kenny in all fairness deserves to carry on managing Lfc and fail to see how any one can argue with that:
By the way the Bookies who are nobody's fools have us favourites to win at Newcastle tomorrow.
kidmillions

Whilst I think you make a valid point, winning 2 out of 3 competitions entered would be a good achievement and KK deserves credit, I think our owners would happily swap the Carling Cup and a FA Cup win for a place in the Champions League next season.

RedSG

If he stays he will spend more ridiculous amounts of money on useless english players and decrease our league position by one each year...

31 Mar 2012 22:07:23
Hey eds any idea why im repeatedly blocked on this site? RedTurk {Ed001's Note - you're not blocked.}

Maybe you were blocked for endless, boring, repetitious, negative drivel? Just a thought.

cozinoz

Rather Redturks realism(table doesnt lie)Than your fantasy,rose tinted bull Cozinoz

31 Mar 2012 21:56:44
The only info i have been told is that they are going to TRY and sign 5 players in the summer..

I have no info on who they are..

Also i can't guarantee this will happen but this is the plan..

So please don't call for my blood if we only sign 3..

I also ave no idea what there thoughts on Dalglish are..

I believe that they will evaluate everything at the end of the season..

Cheers

Macca ____________________________________________
isnt it great what macca does for us, and yet he actually has to ask people not to "call for his blood" if he is wrong. seriously people have to be better than that.
cheers maca
derryred

What about Torres leaving, Suarez signing, Downing Adam Enrique Coates Bellamy, Anfield staying. Hodgson sacking etc, all guesses i presume

31 Mar 2012 21:45:21
A lot of you may not bother to read back through the posts from earlier this afternoon so I thought I'd share this with you.
I made a statement that Liverpool and united were easily England's biggest clubs followed by arsenal then a gap back to the medium sized clubs like spurs, Everton, villa and Chelsea.
This was a reply I got:

Chris from Tamworth

What on earth are you on about? I'd love to know the logic you applied to end up with that ranked list of 'big clubs' to 'medium-sized clubs'. Actually no I wouldn't, as it's pure fiction

Gav
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Would anyone wishing to educate Gav please form an orderly queue

Chris in Tamworth

{Ed022's note - I personally wouldn't describe Spurs or Chelsea as a 'Medium sized club', as the table doesn't lie and they are significantly above Liverpool. Oh well.}

Chris, We have great history at Liverpool and yes we have worldwide fans, But we are not the 'big club' we used to be, we will always have fans, but ill even admit, The big boys these days are manu city arsenal and chelsea, spurs are startin to get up there aswell with there squad and style of play, we are miles behind the top 4, its sad to say but teams dont fear us anymore and they havnt for a long long time, we only have 4 wins at home this season, weve only scored 36 goals this season, only wigan, qpr and wolves have less goals than us, quite simply put, we are not the 'big club' that we used to be, sad but true, i know a lot of liverpool supporters who have admitted this, we will get the glory days again though, im sure of that, graham

Ed022, what are you talking about?
Spurs and Chelsea are both better teams than Liverpool at the moment, as you say the league doesn't lie, but does that make them bigger clubs?
You know it doesn't and your comment is strange to say the least

Chris in Tamworth

Ed022, a club is different from a team. A team might be better than another like Tottenham are a better team than Liverpool but they are not a bigger club. The size of a club is determined by a number of different things including history, number of fans around the world, value of the club etc. etc.

Liverpool and Manchester United can't be touched by the others.

BthekingB

Completly agree with graham, hard to admit but we are not a big club anymore, too many fans on here are living in the past, most of them dont actually realise that we havnt won the league in 20 years, big teams win leagues, thats man united, arsenal and chelsea, i expect city to be around the top for a long while to come and challenge for the title every year, doubt we will be able to challenge manu, city, chelsea, arsenal, spurs and newcastle year after year, they are improving while we are getting worse

RealRed96

Sorry graham mate but you've got that wrong, city and Chelsea aren't big clubs they've just got big money, which may one day make them big clubs. As I've said they are better teams than us but not bigger clubs.

Chris in Tamworth

As a fan who lives abroad i can tell you in europe we are no longer considered to be a big club our reputation has been badly damaged by missing out on champions league and european football.Most fans do not realise how we are actually viewed at the moment and as the other person said are living in the past if they believe people view us as a bigger club than the likes of chelsea and arsenal.We have reached the point where our history is to far in the past to surpass that of the recent success of other teams in the eyes of most neutral fans and now we are in danger of falling even further behind with teams like city and spurs over taking us the club is facing a very tough job to get back to where we belong
ted {Ed001's Note - funny that, my parents have retired to Spain, everyone round them knows Liverpool and sees them as a huge club. I don't know where you are in the world, but it is not the same everywhere.}

No league title in 20 years, im getting sick of saying ''next season will be our season'' we are far from been a big club anymore im afraid

jp-liver

I live in france and spend alot of time in belgium i also get to spend lot of time in spain as i have family there aswell and im only being honest in the way the people i meet and my friends attitudes to the club have changed over the last few years.unfortunately other peoples memories of the clubs glory years fade faster than us fans.We also must remember an entire generation has grown up without seeing us win the league
ted {Ed001's Note - irrelevant to people abroad, as you must know if you live there. They see who wins the Champions League, domestic leagues are barely registered outside of the country it is in.}

I see your point on the champions league but you would definately be surprised by how much attention is payed to the teams fighting for the title they receive far more media attention abroad and now we have slipped out of europe our reputation has dipped with it which to a certain extent is inevitable due to the fact european fans dont get to see as much of us.Also what they do hear about us is normaly recycled rubish from the british press which is more often than not quite negative
ted

It depends how one defines 'bigger or biggest'.
Claiming a fan base of 'X' really counts for nothing, if it cannot be verified, or translates into usable figures.
Viewership (TV audience) may help in determining 'reach' but again can it be quantified!.
We don't control our own TV rights, so it is difficult to determine.
One therefore has to look at revenue (merchandise sales, tickets etc), and this is where (unfortunately) we are falling a bit behind the biggest clubs.
Our revenues (I believe) are behind that of Arsenal.

So its pretty subjective, only the statistics and figures give 'true information'.
So thus potentially as a club, we are most likely 20-30% behind.

Yes we are a 'big club' but so were Forest and Leeds and look at them now BUT with Kenny in charge maybe we might get back to where we belong.

Corkpoolred

Here in South Africa Lfc and ManUtd are the most popular and supported teams by far.Chelsea and Arsenal are also followed. I do not know one person who supports Spuds or ManC. Speaking of league and UCL when last did those 2 win it. I agree we have to get our act together or will soon fall into the leeds/notts forest catagory of fallen giant.

That didnt quite go to plan there did it, Chris from Tamworth?

I guess it depends how you define 'big club'...is it just to do with history and fan base...is current form or recent history irrelevant?

Like one poster mentioned, does that mean Leeds and Forest are still bigger than Chelsea and Sh!tty?

I just dont quite see the relevance of the term 'big club' that you use, I guess. Liverpool will always have a great history, that much is sure, but I dont PERSONALLY see Liverpool as a 'big club' these days

Gav

31 Mar 2012 21:00:02
Hi Eds,

Have any of you watched or heard about Bas Dost?

If you have what are your thoughts on him as a player?

{Ed001's Note - I haven't seen him play, he has suddenly become linked with lots of clubs recently though.}

Good player, big lad 6"5 but has got a great touch and is a real poacher. reminds me very much of owen in that sense tbh.

Naturally the crouch comparisons happen because of his height but he is a better player. I think he will be available for about 7/8 maybe 10 if a few clubs get involved. For that money though I think it would be a great buy. You need a squad to do anything nowadays and he certainly would improve ours. As you point out though a lot can happen between now and the summer so guess we will have to wait and see.

31 Mar 2012 21:23:28
Eds, I trust the april fools gag has been finalised? Last year I remember it was mourinho being next manager. Oh the hilarity! This year I feel will be a bit of a corker!

Rafa's Purple Goatie

31 Mar 2012 21:13:35
hey eds

if tello has a buy out clause , what does that actually mean, if we pay that amount we can have him no matter what? i might sound dumb just wondered

thanks {Ed002's Note - To LIverpool it likely means very little. Typically they are only enforced under the law of the land of teh Contract.}

31 Mar 2012 21:06:29
Just wanted to say hi to the number 1 club in Manchester, oops looks like i'm on the wrong page.

Sir Kenny

How embarrasing Sir Kenny, i suggest you check scores and league tables before making a complete twit out of your self.

JWalk

31 Mar 2012 20:54:18
Sterling showed us the other day what its like to have an exciting winger with trickery and flair, just think if we had brought an older 1st team ready one in the summer instead of downing or henderson...
But whatever whats done is done, but now we NEED to give him more first team action because he looks a gem, and has shown more potential in 5 minutes than henderson has shown me all season.

RDR

31 Mar 2012 20:37:02
all i am saying is that there was better alternatives out there would you have rather had mata or downing or would you have ramirez or philips

Mata and Ramirez please

31 Mar 2012 20:30:21
While we are up in the northeast drop Downing, Henderson and Carroll off at their houses and tell them to stay there.

Nice supporter

Must be Great for a Young lad like Henderson in his First year at a club to have great support like yours behind him!!!
You More Than likely said the same about Lucas a year or 2 back
He's a young boy give it a Rest man

Lyndon

31 Mar 2012 20:21:13
everybody stop the hating ok we haven't won anything nice yet but hey it's a working project I don't know about you but I still l love Kenny and his charisma he just needs better scouts or someone who will help him with the transfer policy and we have to play with one striker btw because the time of two stikers was 30 years ago

31 Mar 2012 20:15:53
Hi eds either one.
I've been following this site for some time now, along with the daily media reports linking us to every football player who graces the green stuff. Is there some basic rules to filter out the total beef to try an get a real idea of who Liverpool are after? What is the transfer process in terms of trying to fill positions? Do we monitor several players for the same position and hope for the best?

Cheers Tim YNWA {Ed002's Note - I cannot say what the basic rules are for figuring out the good rumours from the bad. What information we have is shared mostly. As for policy, the club will have preferred targets but will continue to monitor other players.}

31 Mar 2012 20:08:16
I just looked at our last 9 fixtures. We may not get 8 points. What if we finish with less than 50 points? Will anyone else cry?

Your correct , we wont get 8 points , we will get a lot more , how about 1 or 3 2moro , for starters , can we be a bit more positive .
redforever

The unnamed poster is rarely positive because he/she doesn't want to be held accountable for whinging like a b*tch

cozinoz

31 Mar 2012 20:02:31
For the good of LIVERPOOL FOOTBALL CLUB, please Kenny go and go now. You have made a vital contribution in the past glory of this club but your current involvement is destroying our capacity to compete at the highest level. You will be a club legend forever but we now need you to show that rare level of courage the courage to acknowledge you have failed and thus do the noble thing GO!

TIME TO GO.......

I support liverpool fc aswell not the manager , its like players if they are not good enough we replace them why not the manager , who can do a lot of damage to the club than any player could

For the good of Liverpool Football Club, please keep tripe like this to yourself.

Red Owl

A see anfield still gets full
mrbrown

Nah...stay, Kenny. More supporters believe in you than criticise you (as you can hear every match day)
YNWA KK

Why even entertain these no name posters.
k-h

If he stays for summer, we are likley to see a repeat of last year. vast amounts spent on average players instead of targeting quality. we really cant afford to do that again or we really will become an average side.

P

31 Mar 2012 20:02:23
I love the replys about fergie being sacked that i wrote earlier. All i have to do is dangle the carrott and all the mancs bite.

I think this is still a banter page isnt it?

PRICELESS

Mighty reds

You do realise they are top of the league, 31 points ahead of us, on course for #20 while we are having yet another embarrassing season? Your the sort of fan who makes us look like a laughing stock to the manu fans, davey96

You do realise they are top of the league, 31 points ahead of us, on course for #20 while we are having yet another embarrassing season? Your the sort of fan who makes us look like a laughing stock to the manu fans, davey96

31 Mar 2012 19:59:31
Serious question:

About 75% of people on here call for Kenny to be sacked, and 25% say the other 75% are not true fans and that he should be given more time. The question is, to the true fans, how long should he be given before YOU would sack him? Or is he beyond such treatment? I am just a regular fan, and not necessarily a true fan, so I don't understand. Should we simply lower our standards? Did NESN or FSG or whoever they are not set goals? Was the whole 'Champions League at a minimum' simply public relations talk to get us all excited?

One thing I will say is that as a fan of 20 years, it has been the same story (thereabouts) every year. Expectations that are never met (save the CL win in 2005) and more expectation the next year. Perhaps the constant anguish of being a Liverpool fan is what makes one a Liverpool fan! I don't know the pre-premier league years, so I have grown accustomed to what we are going through now, though I must admit, I did get excited over the summer.

Thinking back however, wasn't anyone else worried when Commoli announced how excited he was to have gotten his top priority transfer target in Henderson? I recall thinking "they must know something I don't" . Turns out they didn't.

Can't wait for next year! And then the one after that.....heartache builds character.

Coop

If there is no improvement come this time next year then he haas to go. i think he should get more time but i do understand why fans are calling for him to be sacked. he can now buy good foreign players and i think we are only 3 players away from a serious top 4 challenge. remimber we have been without our starting midfielders for most of the season: lucas and gerrard. we have youth breaking through and i would rather go another year than restart a clearout.
derryred

Dont know if im one of those true fans or not but i try to keep anything negative about the club to myself it doesn't help running players and managment down when things aren't going that great. im sure the players must get affected some how by negative abuse in the media and on the web,But to answer your question yes def kenny will and should be given more time i mean its kenny dalglish for goodness sake if anyone wants the club to be sucsessful it would be him, Im sure he hurts just as bad as any of us when we loose and you can see when we win he celebrates with us also. we have played maybe a handfull of games this season were we didn't deserve anything but i believe we deserved to win the rest to me its fine margins and im sure kenny knows what we need as well so to give him another season is a no brainer people say hes spent 100 odd million but thats the media i have read its more like 35-40 million players sold + players bought for a near complete change in the team thats gonna take time but we are getting there keep the faith.

gee man

It would be interesting to know where you get your data from, Coop. Here's mine:
21.56% of posters here are calling for KKs head after one season with silverware and they want success now. Not tomorrow. NOW. Or they will cry and take their ball home and tell their mum how life is so unfair and how they like the new Man City away kit.

78.44% of supporters are understanding that we cannot change managers every year just because we didn't break the top 4, and that there is an ongoing project at Liverpool that may take longer than just one season, and that KK has achieved a lot this season even if we didn't make the CL and that he has not been solely responsible for results against QPR, Wigan and Bolton.

What KK has shown this season is that he DOES deserve another year to put his plan into effect. No players are guaranteed to be effective and too many are judged by their price-tags. Adam and Henderson (still young) have faded after bright starts whereas Carroll and Downing have improved immensely after poor beginnings.
KK now has the opportunity in the sumer to make the necessary tweaks to the squad to make us successful next year. Buy a proven striker; clear out the Pousens and Coles; give the youth who are ready pre-season experience; and adjust the team in areas it has been found deficient this year. Bring in another manager and we are right back at the beginning of this season again as he would be taking over inheriting another manager's squad.
Make no mistake, this is the crunch year for KKs masterplan but to get rid of him after one season in charge is idiocy and only drags us back a year.

cozinoz

I would give Kenny 3 years like his contract says.

BthekingB

Its not even about breaking the top four, its about spending 100m and possibly finishing lower than last year. I didnt even believe that was possible, we dont expect instant next season success but atleast an improvement. Man city spend 100m plus and they break champions league next season fair enough, two years they compete for title. We spend a reasonable amount, come 7th and then spend 100m and come 7th or less. doesnt make much sense.

To the original post,

A so called true fan is one who understands what football (the game) is......

the 75% you have mentioned here all love football as a spectacle and are only interested in the events that take place inside the frame of a television....

football is much more than that... its abt the club as a whole, the impact it has on the city and its supporters in the city....

When you speak of Kenny, you speak about a legend who has dedicated his life to football and more importantly Liverpool...

Look at Athletic Bilbao, they have lost out in 4th place race due to their focus on the domestic Cup and Europa League......People sing their praises after they defeat ManU but slam Kenny.....

What would you call that ? Double standards....

Bilbao at present are the mirror image of Liverpool...

Now on to spending, Man City have spent 1 bil dollars on squad and just have one FA Cup to show after 3 plus years.....Kenny already has a Carling Cup to show for.....Isnt that progress?

Our fans have bcome cynical......I willl support any team that kenny puts out....We have every right to discuss his selections but will never criticise him or ask for his head.....

All of us stand nowhere in fronat of him......

LiverBird

City have been building for 5 seasons now were into our fifth

gee man

Sorry to disappoint you but this is is the first proper season under FSG and Kenny....

LiverBird

I was meant to say they're into there 5th liverbird

gee man

31 Mar 2012 19:54:02
ed am i right in thinking that fsg bought a player for their other team in america for 300million dollars+. whoa! we migh be in with a chance for messi

WAFA {Ed001's Note - hardly relevant, the other team earn a hell of a lot more than we do.}

31 Mar 2012 19:50:18
eds, when we bought reina and alonso, was there as much hype about them as the likes of javi martinez and de gea? {Ed001's Note - no, nothing like.}

Would you say nowadays there would be, or would you believe they would have been hidden gems like cabaye {Ed002's Note - Perhaps not as high profile as the others, and obviously there are plenty of "hidden gems" still out there.}

Sometimes the gems are because of the coaching they receive, there seems to be something wrong in the Liverpool coaching system for many years we bought decent players and turned them into world beaters now we seem to buy good players and turn them into poor players!

Its about how players suit a system

31 Mar 2012 19:30:38
WHEN LFC PLAY BETTER

Somone posted the other day that the team does better when Carroll starts and it's true. At least in the Prem. where i just ran all the numbers.

The following is based on Premier League starts only - how LFC do when the following players start.

MOST EFFECTIVE IN THE PREM THIS SEASON
(Min. 3 starts)

1 - Lucas; Won 6 Drew 4 Lost 2;
1.83 points per game

2 - Kelly; Won 5 Drew 2 Lost 3;
1.70 points per game

3 - Carroll; Won 7 Drew 4 Lost 4
1.67 points per game

LEAST EFFECTIVE IN THE PREM THIS SEASON
(Min. 3 starts)

1 - Gerrard; Won 1 Drew 4 Lost 4
0.78 points per game

2 - Spearing; Won 3 Drew 1 Lost 7
0.91 points per game

3 - Kuyt; Won 6 Drew 6 Lost 7
1.26 points per game

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The most stark contrast is Lucas v Spearing where we have, based on this, lost 10 points having to replace one with the other.

Starting Carroll all 30 games would have netted 7 more points.

I have a spreadsheet if the eds are interested.

Through the Storm

Lies, damn lies and statistics

Chris in Tamworth

Yet still facts Chris!

The Irish Rover

Change Carroll for Ngog for talking sake and your statistics would probably read the same if not better.
kidmillions

Very interesting analysis when can you start working for the club?

31 Mar 2012 19:20:59
Moyes spent 7m, Everton 7th place
Kenny wasted 130m, Liverpool 8th place

Dear Kenny

Please leave our club now, we are a laughing stock, davey96

Get a grip and show some respect

The Squirrel

''Squirrel'' Kenny should show some respect for the club he supposeidly loves so much and step down, he is dragging us down and is just saving himself the embarrasment of quitting, he needs to go now, davey96 is right, we are a laughing stock

Grow a pair, and stop whining.

Red Owl

You are all a bunch of - keep the faith kk will come good he loves our club as much as we do i hate it when i here fans slaging lfc and the mances and the bitters all join in they love it when we slag of our own manager and players of come on we have won one cup weve got the bitters in the next round get behind our team and king kenny he has done a lot for are club and our city

A squirrel and an owl arguing, who would have thought it!

-Shane.

31 Mar 2012 18:52:18
I think it's utterly unfair to be wanting Dalglish out.
1st - he's won a trophy that our first for six years.
2nd - our pass and move football style is the traditional way of our success and the Liverpool way. Under both Houlier and Benitez rein we play defensive tactical football which had a degree of success but attacking football is what makes teams feared.
3rd- at least give him one more season and who knows what we will achieve. At least if after one more season and things don't pan out then Benitez bregade call up our man.
4- mourinho isn't interested in Liverpool so stop going on about him.

How about the fact that we have 42 points, are below Newcastle and Everton, and soon below Sunderland. We are one of the 4 richest teams in england, spent close to 100 million, already had stars (Gerrard, Reina, Skrtel, Agger, Johnson, Kuyt, etc.) and yet we may ben in the bottom half in a week. You want more reasons?? How about Kenny making a mockery of the club with his support of Suarez, when he was already fined by the FA?

The 1st year is always going to be the hardest to endure. kenny has won a cup. we are playing better football. there is still an exitement about the club and the players like playing for him. now tell yourselves this. what if we go and seck kenny, then appoint anther manager and he does poorly. we have areselves a dilemma? perhaps our fans want us to become chelsea ? we can win the double so get behind kenny.
derryred

31 Mar 2012 18:47:15
we are nearly closer to relegation than fourth

The last time Kenny resign Liverpool was top of the League. that's why he was King now we are near relegation and he still in charge ? just resign man.

As we were and we won the cl in 2005 dinkus.
Relax, 3 new players and we can win the league ala' 2009

31 Mar 2012 18:43:34
i dont understand this whole "our buying policy" thing, can someone please explain..... many thanks, The Berg

Its simple. We dnot set a transfer budget, we identify positions which we are lacking. We then identify players who could possibly fill that void. We then decide if the value the selling club places on the player matches our buying value.

Each transfer is judged individually, hence no need for a budget.

Nevada

Policy is give some money to British player :)

Buy over rated english players

31 Mar 2012 18:23:53
Hey Eds,

A while go i heard something about J W Henry going to look at Bayern's stadium anymore info about what went on?

Thanks

Mac {Ed002's Note - If he did it would be no more than him taking the opportunity to look at building when the board were considering options for Liverpool.}

Byern does have a tarrific eye-catching stadium at a lower cost of that of H&G design.
Out of the two.. I'm not sure which I'd pick but probably the more modern unique H&G design.
As for my opinion regarding Anfield or move..
Well I reckon we will stay at anfield and increase the overall capacity by around 12000 seats but I don't think our club will be spectacular modified but just extended slightly and you probably could tell the differance

31 Mar 2012 18:15:57
To any scousers of for petrol today , remember -----
Andy caroll , JordanHenderson and Stewart downing is what happens when you panic buy !!
Ha ha

Caroll, Henderson, Down yawn zzzzzzzzzzz same old comments over and over again.

Please for the love of god be at least a bit more interesing or take your boring repetative drivel elsewhere!

MR EM

Carroll was the only panic buy out of that list. Downing and Henderson were both planned in advance. You might even say that Carroll was too as he was identified as a target for the summer, we just panicked and bought him earlier than planned.

Nevada

Mr EM

I'm starting to think you just say that all your rivals posts are repetitive because you can't think of a decent comeback.

Perhaps it's you that needs to work on your banter lol

CnM

If downing and henderson were planned carefully, then there is something very wrong with our scouting.

I rate Carroll highly - he was a good buy. Don't see the problem there unless you're still moaning about his price-tag?

cozinoz

Yea Carrols beenm great Cozinoz.Pint of what your having please

31 Mar 2012 18:12:44
So boys and girls how does it feel to be the second best team on Merseyside.

Please feel free to comment and tell me how next year will be your year ;)

CnM

Another repetative post, It's already been said today, try keep up ;)

I don't mind banter but why are opposing fans just SO bad at it?

MR EM

Surely you must know, you've been in that position for pretty much the last 40 years apart from the odd season or two.

Jimbo

My mistake thinking you were a blue, but didn't think a Manc would be on a Liverpool site gloating over an Everton victory! Still it takes all sorts!

Jimbo

Lol everton fan trying to say they're better than lfc. dont bother arguing its just laughable! congrats for beating west brom!

Hero

You're absolutely right we are the second best team in merseyside...as Liverpool FC are the best team and the reserves are second best team, as advised by Bill Shankly

Nevada

Mr Em

Sorry mate, I didn't realize it had been said already, I don't tend to read through the liverpool page as I find the copious amounts of delusion a bit excessive.

Jimbo

I have no idea what you're on about considering I'm a United fan.

CnM

Is this the second best team that beat you 3-0 a couple of weeks ago? I though so! Pipe down.....

I dont know how it feels, i know how it feels to be the best team in Merseyside, maybe you can tell us.

To be honest everton at least twice a season recently end up above Liverpool the first time is because league is alphabetical order.The funny thing is the only time you have finished above this century we won the Cl.

Next year will be our year!

31 Mar 2012 18:03:00
Liverpoolfc.tv tactics are very good: they publish 'feel good' stories all week leading up to a game to lesson the blow from the previous defeat. In the past two weeks we have had Adam say "there is alot left to play for...", Downing "I am in my best form....", Kenny "I am happy with the players response", Suarez "loving life at LFC".

Hmmm. Is it possible everybody at LFC is on drugs? Why is everyone so happy? I am eager to read Kenny's next interview: "I am happy for Everton. Moyes has got his lads playing some good football....."

Surely a man of Kenny's experience knows that only one response will do anything for the fans, and that is a win tomorrow. All season people have been talking about how we are playing better football, unlucky, etc. In two seasons, all we will do is look back and us languishing in the mid table. All the 'good football' will be forgotten.

Good luck tomorrow boys! I will be watching with achy heart.

Canada Red

In order to be successful one must project an image of success. What press releases say and what everyone thinks are usually different.

Nevada

31 Mar 2012 17:56:17
I am no Kenny hater, but I would really like to see a summary of his outlandish comments this year. Some of them have been memorable for sure. I recall a few years back when Rafa was given flak for his 'mind games' bit with Fergie.

Kenny today lauded the players for their 'response' in training. Wtf? I wonder if Carroll or Downing scored a goal in a scrimmage game?

Seriously though, some of the comments are so outrageous I initially thought he was joking. Example: "Stewart Downing is even better than we thought he was....". He must be a world beater in training! I am starting to wonder if the training sessions are actually XBOX games....

I think we will beat Newcastle tomorrow, 3 - 1. So much has gone against us this season, something good is bound to happen. I suspect an own goal (for the magpies), a Gerrard penalty and Kuyt will nick one. Carroll probably won't even start. Suarez will be on the ground or complaining to refs. Downing will be better than Kenny thought he would be....

I'm NO Kenny Hater BUT!!!
Don't ya just love em

Lyndon

That quote about Downing actually has me laughing hahahha

31 Mar 2012 17:52:33
Eds do u see we signing player before euro? {Ed002's Note - I really don't know.}

31 Mar 2012 17:45:23
In all honesty can somebody tell me how come fergie has not got the sack from man utd? I mean his european record is very very poor. Then again that club dont show much ambition.

They win one european trophy every 40 years or so? And fergies still got a job PRICELESS.

Mighty reds

And you're in 8th, PRICELESS

CnM

31 points behind...PRICELESS

Gav

Wtf are you talking about Mighty reds?

Are you really projecting our poor season on to utd? Why are you constantly denying that Dalglish is a poor manager and dragging us down?

Sack Ferguson, you say? How about we worry about our own management troubles first.

Stop being bitter, I thought that was the Toffees job. Oh the Irony!

Some fans really do suffer delusions of grandoire.

Yeah if only he had a record like KK

Devil Dust.

If spurs win their game in hand, you'll be closer to the relegation zone than 4th....PRICELESS

This is a fun game

CnM

31 Mar 2012 17:36:27
Just seen the Blackpool subs on BBC2, have we sent Shelvey on loan to them? With our injuries this would be crazy.

Well if you've seen Shelvey on the subs bench at Blackpool, I'll have some of what you're taking...

Matt S - YNWA

Bbc did show a shelvey on the blackpool subs bench, not sure if its jon jo.

Charlie p

31 Mar 2012 17:34:55
We will be bottom half of table in two weeks

Thanks for the info???
In 2 weeks time you'll probably be going
"were in the FA Cup final love you Kenny"
Just hope theirs someone there to call you a Hypocrite!!

Lyndon

Dream on. Liverpool will lost both Newcastle and Everton mark my word.

If you Sign your post I'll be glad to!
Go on live a little
Doesn't matter if you spell it wrong we'll go with it

Lyndon

In 2 weeks time you'll probably be going
"were in the FA Cup final love you Kenny"

I think that job will be carried out by the rose tinted glasses fans.

Don't forget to crucify us who don't change our opinion, when we scrape by!

And remember to say "where are all you kenny haters now?".

More predictable than Dalglishs' boring tactics.

31 Mar 2012 17:30:25
I am really looking forward to tomorrows game, i fancy us to come away with three points.

Lets hope we can have some players back for tomorrow, has our squad has been depleted at wrong time.

Eds is bellamy and johnson back for tomorrow? Also is agger near fitness?

Mighty reds

p.s Everton can have there glory for one day in 50 years as they are a small time club. {Ed002's Note - All three are due fitness tests this weekend.}

Oh the Irony of calling Evertonians "The bitters".

You're a disgraceful Liverpool fan! Have some class like the rest of us will you!

Well done Everton.

31 Mar 2012 17:20:07
Is there any reason you allow Melbourne CFC's posts, there just annoying. {Ed002's Note - You think we should ban all banter then?}

Cozinoz started this on our page pal you cant have it both ways, should we not defend our players?

SHED END

Fair enough a bit of banter, but the same chap with the same arguments can get tedious.

I dont see anything wrong with a rival fan having an opinion on our page. Everyone has the right to express an opinion

LFC fans are like a plague on many of the other sites tbf so I think Melbourne is just giving back a taste of your own medicine, so to speak

Gav

At least Melbourne CFC signs his name so we can banter back. That's what this page is about, no? It's the unnamed critics that bug me.

cozinoz

So your real name is Cozinoz?

31 Mar 2012 17:18:55
And mcclean
Shanio1 {Ed002's Note - I have no idea who that is. Sorry.}
------------------------------------------
mclean,sunderland??

Yes mcclean definitely plays for sunderland

does that answer your 2 word question?

Gav

31 Mar 2012 17:06:53
Just wanted to say hi to the number 1 club on merseyside, oops looks like i'm on the wrong page.

Sir Alex x

Mctaggart i bow down to your genius

Your very funny!
but we all know Tranmere are the number 1 club

This post is not from the real Sir Alex x, as he wouldn't be so insensitive, although imitation is the most sincere form of flattery!

Anyway, LFC fans, your keys to move to number 8, Premier League Place are ready!

Eric Banterna x

Don't worry we will beat you in the FA cup! oops looks like we did that already.

MR EM

The best side on Merseyside for the last couple of years has been Lancashire County Cricket Club! For SIXTY years in Manchester they do nothing and move for a time to Liverpool and are immediately Champions. Ah well, back to Old Trafford this season and back to normal.
Dutchmal

I prefer the 4-1 win at old trafford , nothing like giving you lot a good beating in your own back yard .
redforever

31 Mar 2012 17:04:27
It doesn't matter what happens tomorrow, it doesn't matter where we finish in the league, it doesn't matter if we go out of the FA cup.
The only thing that matters is getting back challenging for the title and soon.
This will depend on Kennys summer signings and how he gets the team playing next season.

31 Mar 2012 16:54:13
Get in Torres cheers lads Fernando Torres Chelsea number 9

SHED END

Oh boy will this lot be hearing about that one! And we were only just having a discussion about Torres vs Carroll. I will be back tomorrow night for the round up.

Melbourne CFC

They deserve everything they got, on our page every game torres doesnt score, in comparison with Carrol isnt it 8 goals each now but Torres in 10 less games? Dont know the assist stats but Torres must be 10+, how many has Carroll got. On performances, goals per game, and overall play, we win

And on the money side of it, we could get 35 mill for Torres if we sold him in the summer, meaning 15 mill loss, for you to just make a 15 mill loss you would have to get 20 mill for Carroll, just isnt going to happen, so on overall money lost, again, we would win.

You might want to be more humble on other teams pages lads when one of your old heros go's through a bit of bad form

SHED END

Get 35mil for torres don't make me laugh you person he's got 8 goals in his chelsea career and you think you'll get 35 mil for him...slap yourself fool.

Altogether torres(50 mil) has featured 56 times for chelsea and Carroll(35 mil) has featured 47 times so say no more.

LOL, he has scored 9 goals in 56 games and you think he's is now worth 50 million and a world beater what deluded fools.

And we will be hearing about this one? Who cares Torres is 28 Carroll is 23, there a lomg way to go to yet sonny.

No run along an grow up.

MR EM

You paid £15Million pounds more for Torres and LFC bought Luis Suarez with the profit - nearly 2 for the price of 1 El Nino , no contest .

Qwerty

So are players sold on past form or current form? he will get more goals and more assists between now and the end of the season. Why keep kidding yourself that he's completley lost it, he hasnt, every pundit and neutral is acknowledging that he's returning to form. He's ours now accept it.

Oh and btw, if clubs are willing to pay 35 million for someone that had half a decent season at Newcastle, then surely they will be willing to pay 35 mil for a Euro/World Cup winner, proven top European level striker,

And i love your intelligent response, 'slap yourself fool', haha, even if we diddnt get 35 for him, our net loss would still be less, so again, we win

SHED END

Yeah torres was supposed to be returning to form a few times this season, its funny how chels**t fans think because hes scored 8 goals hes a 35 million striker, torres will never be what we made him. At the end of the day torres is 28 carroll is 23. that childish remark you made 'again we win' i hope your not referring to chelsea because you've lost to us a couple of times this season

Wow! That's Now what... 3 goals in 30 odd hours of play!!

The Boys On Fire!!!

Lyndon

Ooohhh chels**t, i see what you did there you little tinker, that was very clever of you mate, we win the whole Torres vs Carroll thing, hands down, every time, you lot started the whole Torres vs Carrol thing, you lot started the whole coming on our page everytime Torres diddnt score, you need to accept that its backfired, your not in a position to criticise other teams or other teams players anymore, your 8th and half of your team is terrible. The glory days are gone lads, be humble and accept it. Your clutching at straws with the whole Torres thing, your looking for the smallest positives and oppurtunities to gloat week in week out. Is this what the mighty LFC has become??

SHED END

Torres playing for a move/a Euro spot. He has absolutely no drive for the club he's currently at.

Hes right that half our team is terrible, must be said...

Hold up i swear a couple of weeks ago you boys were slitting your wrists and hollering that drogba, lampard and all the rest of them need to p*ss off, now your walking round with a hard on thinking you support the best team ever... mate your deluded you support a team who got this big by buying anyone who can kick a ball. Chelsea (--- are not a real football team

31 Mar 2012 16:51:45
Hey eds. why good players like adbedyoar,santa cruz,granero waste their career as fringe player at these mega rich clubs . Why does not they like to take pay cut? Reply plzzzzz.
A PAKISTAN RED... {Ed002's Note - You mean take a pay cut to move to Liverpool? They are not all wasting their careers - Adebayor is having a successful season at Spurs for example.}

31 Mar 2012 16:46:35
Just read an article on ramirez (not neccesarily any truth to it if any) but it says that today gaston wants to move to an EPL team over any move to other italian clubs. if that was the case would we not be front runners over MUFC? i could hardly see ramirez wanting to go to MUFC because he was one of the many uruguayan players who publicly backed suare during the case. it just would not make sense for him to go there if you ask me. aswell im not saying we will get him. just wondering if you have heard any of this

31 Mar 2012 16:31:51
is anyone not worrying that we'll be 9th tonight?

31 Mar 2012 16:10:54
Alright, random question of the day: Which incarnation of LFC did you most enjoy playing with on FIFA?
Mine would have to be FIFA '97... Mcmanaman and Fowler were great, but the real "ace up my sleeve" was Collymore... My mates ended up hating him in on the real pitch because they couldn't stop him in the video game!

YNWA USA

31 Mar 2012 16:07:24
Andy Carroll says he won't celebrate if he scores at Newcastle, he should be so lucky!

Lets hope he scores.

He'll need to actually be on the pitch if he is to have any chance to score though.
Can't understand why he's not playing every game.

Well, lets just hope, there'd be a goal from him. Hope, we win. YNWA

31 Mar 2012 16:02:30
eds how much do you think sterling will feature this season?

also do you think he will be on the bech vs newcastle?

thanks keep up the great work {Ed002's Note - The occasional cameo. I have no idea if he will be on the bench tomorrow or not.}

31 Mar 2012 16:00:22
hey eds

when will the team news be out for 2moz, is it 1 hour before the game?

thanks {Ed002's Note - 45 minutes.}

31 Mar 2012 15:49:46
I don't even think the Russians value him that highly mate. Just be interesting to see if Roman is as ruthless with Nando as managers. Face it mate,you bought a has been. I don't think there has been a worse investment in all of europe. If we both sold Carroll and Torres now,and check the records,I think it will be clear who's the more costly striker. He will never play for the shirt. He dropped Athletico and us,the man has no loyalty. Watch what happens now if you finish 5th and an offer comes in from Spain? I hope those assists justified his wages mate,because when he's gone at a 35 million loss after 18 months,they'll be expensive assists. Still,what's 35 million here or there? WelshBoyDave

You are quiet the clueless supporter WelshBoy. But i forgive you, it must be tough at the moment. He will not be sold at a 35m loss, silly boy you are. He has stated his entire career his love for Athletico. Its still the only club emblem he will kiss. I think you would most certainly find if you asked the majority of fans that Torres is rated much much higher than Carroll. Carroll is laughed at by everyone. It is widely considered that Nando is coming back into some form. Carroll is widely considered as a donkey.

And im pretty sure the Russians valued him pretty highly? Not sure your logic on that one pal. Dont be so bitter mate, at the moment you sit 9th on the table. Put the rose-tinted glasses back on and smile.

Melbourne CFC

I have to say WelshBoyDave, I think your a bit off the mark mate. As much as I hate to say it, I think Torres could be an even better player at Chelsea now he's finding the net over the next few seasons than he was at Liverpool. He now has an added dimension to his game with his movement. There is no comparison in class between Carroll and Torres, I'd take Torres back all day long given the chance.

Ozone

Tell yourself a few more times my friend Melbourne CFC
YOU May even believe it!!

Lyndon

31 Mar 2012 15:48:36
heard the kardashians are looking to buy a stake in liverpool {Ed002's Note - Twitter again?}

Do they like everything that goes down?
JWalk

31 Mar 2012 15:47:29
ed is there any interst in us for mclean,matri or pizarro former chelsea {Ed002's Note - Matri will stay in Italy. Pizzaro is 33 so it seems unlikely.}

And mcclean
Shanio1 {Ed002's Note - I have no idea who that is. Sorry.}

Sunderland?

31 Mar 2012 15:45:19
Melbourne cfc, I wouldn't normally be drawn in to discussing anything with the likes of you but I couldn't help myself when you call Chelsea a big club.
No matter how big you think Chelsea are the fact is that Liverpool are bigger, lots bigger. That's just a fact

Ok no name: thanks for being drawn in. I was in fact using a quote. Fernado Torres' quote to be precise. He said that exact thing when moving from Liverpool to Chelsea. Sorry buddy, looks like some players just don't see you as a big club... anymore.

Melbourne CFC

Some dont but torres isnt even an good player any more.you spend 50mil on him.he proberley moved because yous were 2nd at that time or big fat wages.
Shanio1

Doesn't matter who thinks we are a big club, WE ARE! Just how stupid does one person have to be to think that it is players opinions that make a club big or not? Fact is Chelsea are a small club we are a big club, just deal with it and stop being so bitter.

You spend all your time on the LFC page, that alone proves a lot, why not go on the Sunderland, Stoke or Wolves page? Because they are not the team that you are jealous off!!

MR EM

Ok shane valid point. It could of been because 'yous' were sh*t though mate. But for the time being i am going to go away and think about what i've done. If Chelsea go and do the Liverpool i think im in for a roasting mate.

Melbourne CFC

England has 2 football teams which, in terms of size, are absolutely streets ahead of any others
Liverpool and Manchester united
There is a debate to be had as to which is the largest (obviously I think it's Liverpool)
A little way behind is undoubtedly Arsenal and then I'm afraid you are into "medium sized teams" which is the categorie that Chelsea fall into although probably still behind Spurs, Everton and Villa.
These are the facts and they don't take in to account fans perception of clubs which would probably place Chelsea even lower down the table due to the arrogance of the fans.
Nobody likes a bad loser, but to be a bad winner is something very few can stomach.
This is the reason why united and Chelsea are disliked so much.
I often hear Chelsea fans saying that city will become the most hated club now because of the wealth they have but I'm afraid that is wrong. City will only become hated if they become arrogant, something which I haven't really seen yet.
Should I mention flags on seats and banners made by the club in an attempt to create an atmosphere that doesn't really exist?

Chris in Tamworth

I think its safe to come back... Mr EM the reason I come back is because i get a response, not rocket science mate. Im jealous of Man United having a manager like Sir Alex. I pity Liverpool. If you guys were winning games, and above us on the table, i wouldnt come within 100 feet of this page.

And Shane is helping me with my English.

One more thing: FERNANDOOOOOOOOO!

Melbourne CFC

You won't be gone too long, you live in our shadow too much and your jealousy will drive you back.

MR EM

Jealousy? Your 9th on the table and won the Mickey Mouse. You haven't won the league in 20 years and all you do is harp on about the past, while destroying the present and future. Torres has scored again and is relishing playing for a good club thats going to be a force in Europe for years to come, and has a realistic chance to win the league over the next couple. Mr EM you my friend have lost it.

Melbourne CFC

More to the point, when the Russian money dries up, he'll be off supporting some other plastic club. Lfc is full of supporters for life, Chelsea's fan base will return to what it was before Roman's days. We will always be Liverpool. Nick. {Ed002's Note - Mr Abramovich is one of the longest serving owners in the EPL. You appear to be clutching at straws.}

That is true ed, I was thinking further into th future, 20 years or more. Yes, there's too many variables to know for sure, but in my opinion, the clubs with the biggest fan base, instead of those with the wealthiest owners, will have more longevity. Again, in my opinion, in the long run, Chelsea will return to its more 'natural' size. Roman's money has resulted in an unnatural 'blip' in its fan base, due to commercial reasons. Maybe wrong, and just my opinion, but 'clutching at straws' is a bit off the mark. Nick

It's usually
Nowadays
Fernan-DOH!!!!! Melbourne

Lyndon

Chris from Tamworth

What on earth are you on about? I'd love to know the logic you applied to end up with that ranked list of 'big clubs' to 'medium-sized clubs'. Actually no I wouldn't, as it's pure fiction

Also by 'arrogant' dont you actually mean successful? Dont be so bitter, mate. I think this perceived 'arrogance' is purely bourne from the jealousy of lesser teams

Gav

Gav, if you don't know who the biggest clubs in England are then I'm afraid you don't deserve to call yourself a football fan.
Please enlighten us all and tell us who you think the "big clubs" are because your logic may be amusing

Chris in Tamworth

31 Mar 2012 15:12:41
Hope LFC players compete in Semi,but non get sent off.Big pitch with 10 men

31 Mar 2012 15:11:08
Will pubs open earlier in London for Semi,due to kick off time?(doubt it)

31 Mar 2012 15:10:18
62% of play and 8 corners to our non at Anfield.Those facts by Stelling to Thommo re last weeks Game at Anfield=Incredulous.And produced(Rightly)Thommos impassioned response-New signings aint doing it,Kenny stop being so defensive.Players=When your at LFC 8outve10 performance expected every week.Even Commoli,All must take responsibility!

31 Mar 2012 15:04:49
Carrols quotes eulogising about time at Newcastle says all about his performances at LFC.Lads heart aint here.Honestly believe has a lot to do with his lackve fire,poor attitude and workrate in most games at LFC

Oh behave, he's being respectful and honest (as far as I can tell), what on earth is the problem with that?

31 Mar 2012 14:56:31
Watch Arsenal demolish QPR today. I hope Kenny is watching. BTW, I am a Pool fan, but can recognize a team that knows how to finish off teams at the bottom of the table.

Well they haven't had a good start.

Ozone

The same Arsenal that are currently losing 1-0 to QPR? Nick.

So how's your theory workin?

Its 2-1 now! in ur face!

Aresnal losing 2-1 to qpr LOL
Shanio1
even though we lost 3-2

They've got 16 minutes left to do that demolition job or lose

And watch city destroy Sunderland at home as well I suppose? City have spent over 100 million on JUST their strikers - I guess that makes them cr*p buys too? Once people figure out that real life isn't the same as a video game the better. Nick.

31 Mar 2012 14:32:12
Melbourne CFC. I hope your only argument isn't that Roman doesn't mind spending 50 million with no return,because that's stupid. Besides,we are allowed to call Fernando average,he might be playing the best football of his Chelsea career,but to us Liverpool fans he will always be the best 50 million we ever got. Not even a sniff on the player we sold. You can argue good business if you like. If he carries on,how much will he sell for? 15 million tops? Ha what a shadow! WelshBoyDave

WelshBoy ofcourse that isn't my only arguement, but in all honesty it isn't my money to spend, so why would a price tag have a bearing on how I feel about a player. I hope your only arguement for Carroll isn't that we can you the cash. What a waste!

I can't imagine it is the best 50m you ever got when you have invested it so poorly. Although it is most certainly the worst 50m you have ever spent. There is a rumour floating around that Anzi Mackalele (spelling) is prepared to offer 45m for the bloke to partner Eto. It is just a rumour but I'm sure Roman would have to give it consideration if we were offered anywhere near the 30m mark.

Personally I love Nando. I want him to stay on and find some form. Not only so that I can come here and rub your cheeky little nose in it, but I think he deserves to score goals for a 'big club' for once in his career.

Good luck against Newcastle mate, as I'm sure they are laughing at you lot more than you are laughing at us.

Melbourne CFC

31 Mar 2012 13:56:11
eds do you think kenny will target more foreign players instead of english because as we've seen this season it hasnt worked? {Ed002's Note - No, I doubt that is the thought process in determining which players to buy.}

31 Mar 2012 13:10:46
hey eds how are are players on loan? {Ed001's Note - you might be able to check one out for yourself later, Blackpool are live on BBC and Wilson will hopefully be playing. Aldo mentioned in commentary of the U18s game that Amoo is doing well at Bury, I am told Silva is an exciting talent by a Northampton fan I know, he reckons Slva is too good for that level. I haven't had the chance to really keep up with the rest, trying to make a living has kept me too busy lately, sorry.}

31 Mar 2012 13:05:25
I made a comment a few days ago that I had a great dislike of English football journalists due to the fact that I believe them to be liars pure and simple.
One SP took umbrage at my words and defended said journalists.
Oh the irony!

Chris in Tamworth

I think that SP could be a journalist, Chris mate. If not, I apologise SP.

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96

Yes I'm sure he is Blair mate but his defence of lying journalists is ironic when you consider what happened last time he posted (if you haven't seen it use the search)

I remember the S*n stuff, if that's what you are talking about mate? I can't use the search function mate, im using my mobile and can't get it.

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96

Maybe SP, is Vinny O'Connor (Sky Sports)? Kenny is always mocking him, during press conferences.

Makes sence........lol

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96

I have just spent a very happy hour on Fantasy Island having lunch with some football journalists along with Brad and Angelina. Andy Carroll trotted past on a unicorn and told us that he expects to score a hat trick tomorrow. Lets hope the hat trick's true at least.

Redpath

He works for Sky, Talksport or Daily Mirror lads, I bet.
Not The Real Ken Dodd

And you helped the Beatles with their lyrics right Not The Real Ken Dodd?

Melbourne CFC

CFC closet LFC fan, scrolling through the posts you seem to spend more time on here than me, and i check the site a number of times a day. Why not run along ay?
Wouldn't the chelski page be better with your support?

31 Mar 2012 12:39:39
hey eds does sterling play for the under 18's and the reserves? {Ed001's Note - not normally, he doesn't normally turn out for the U18s any more.}

31 Mar 2012 12:37:08
hey eds any idea when texiera might play? {Ed001's Note - depends on fitness, he might be fit to play for the ressies on Monday, not sure.}

31 Mar 2012 12:28:28
hey eds if sterlings number is 31 then why did he were ten and why dosnt he get give ten it would really boost his confidence?

please answer and thanks {Ed002's Note - I cannot answer about the number on his training kit. His number is 31 for the season - you change numbers at will once they have been informed to the FA.}

I dont think giving an inexperienced youngster the burden of the number 10 at such a young age. Even Fowler wore 23 until he had some experience.

Starting 11 numbers need to be earned, in particular 7, 9 and 10

Nevada

31 Mar 2012 12:10:37
hey eds i was looking at the training photo's and sterling was wearing number ten and we dont have a number ten to is this his new number?

thanks {Ed002's Note - No. His number is 31.}

Future number 10 ;)

Corkpoolred

31 Mar 2012 12:07:53
Howya lads, long time fan of the site.
We're all Liverpool fans here so we should stop slaggin each other off just cause we've conflicting opinions about Kenny. We all know the guy is an absolute legend and Icon. 3 league titles as manager, 2 Fa cups ( one of which I was lucky to witness first hand, 1986) and now one league cup, not to mention 7 league titles 3 European cups and 2 Fa cups etc, as a player. (Yes, I did use wikipedia for some of that, my memories not that good lads)
He's a Liverpool legend and always will be and noone could love and want to do more for our great club.
Nobodys disputing that fact,,, I just wish some Reds supporters would start judging him as any other manager now (from January 2011 onwards really) and not as some kinda god like, can do no wrong, he's always right King.
Looking at our abysmal league form and postion this year(the worst in decades) after spending so much, fans have a right to criticize without being attacked and labelled as doubters or nay-sayers or not true fans.

31 Mar 2012 12:04:36
I am a dane, and I post on this page often.
My opinion is, that it is quite good we have english players on our english football team. But lets face it. Very few british players are world class. Just see the national team of England, where you only have world class players in the starting 11. Otherwise they are not world class players. We need foreign players to lift Liverpool to a higher level. If we want to win the prem within a lifetime (hopefully before 5 years), then we must buy world class foreigners, because the world class brits are already playing for big teams.
Hope no one gets offended. We will win tomorrow! Hope in your hearts lads!
YNWA
danieldenmark

31 Mar 2012 12:03:36
hey eds flano,kelly or jonshon werent in the training photo's so will carra go rb?

also do you exspect any youngsters to start? {Ed002's Note - I cannot account for who was in and out of the photographs and I would not expect any 16 or 17 year olds to start.}

31 mar 2012 12:03:21
just noticed these stats on :

liverpool form in carroll's
last five games started: dwdww

liverpool form in carroll's
last five games not started: lllll

i really hope he plays tonight. he deserves it. although unnoticed, he is a threat, because he drags some of the defenders to cover him, and this opens up space for suarez and others.
c'mon kenny, we need a win tomorrow!

pitsilfc

The fact that Carroll starting means that the other 10 blokes out there realise they need to lift there game is not a stat to be proud of.

Melbourne CFC

7 managers in 5 years isn't a stat to be proud of either

If that's the case Melbourne mate. Chleski must have 9 Messi's and Peter Cech playing, when Torres is named in the 1st eleven.

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96

Another stat for you Melbourne mate

Andy Carroll (LFC)

Age 23
Games 47
Goals 8
Cost-35 mill

Fernando Torres (Chleksi)

Age 27-28
Games 36
Goals 7
Cost- 50 mill

Who got the best deal here Melbourne mate?

Thanks

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96

Oh Blair, I didn't even realise you posted on the Liverpool site. Was of the impression you loved taking it from the mancs too much.

How many assists has Carroll had? How many Champions League games has he helped you win? There is much more to football than stats my friend, Fernando is looking the business as of late. Andy Carroll is looking pretty average don't you think?

Abramovich is fine with splashing 50mil and it not coming up trumps. Not too sure that FSG is all that happy with how the 35 was invested buddy.

Carroll even said that he won't celebrate when he scores against Newcastle. Surely he doesn't actually think he will bang one in? Seems as if the delusion from this site is wearing off on people.

Melbourne CFC

To be honest Melbourne mate. Andy was playing very well up alongside Suarez. The both of them looked to have had a bit of understanding, of each others game. That comes with playing more games together. With Stevie back and playing with Andy and Luis, we looked pretty good in those few games. What is still baffling me mate, is why Kenny has dropped Carroll everytime he has been playing well?

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96

Your asking the wrong bloke there Blair. The same thing has happened with Nando here and there, although Didier has banger a few in. Unfortunately i think he has lost the passion for the shirt, Fernando plays for the boys all day!

For me I would be playing Carroll and Suarez for the rest of the season together. No rest. If you boys are going to have a shout for top 4 next year you need these two to understand eachothers game. You also need the rest of the team to follow stevie's lead and play to Carrolls strengths. I'm sure someone told me that he did actually have some strengths. Can't list them for you mate but supposedly they exist :-)

Melbourne CFC

I think comparing our two most underperforming players is a silly idea. What next our worst stand is slightly better than their worst stand?

Nevada

31 Mar 2012 11:44:05
If his name wasn't Dalglish he would be gone.

But it is isn't it. End of.

Spriggo

Well there would be a tough decision for the new owners , due to cup progression .

But you are right , his name is Kenny Dalglish and that means he gets much more time to fashion his side than a no mark .

I for one will be interested to see how his team is fairing in 2 years time .

Qwerty

But it is.
So what are you on about?

Chris in Tamworth

31 Mar 2012 11:32:27
No matter what all you fickle fans say KK = LEGEND regardless of how this season finishes. We have been so unlucky during this season.

1) Lucas injury
2) Hitting the woodwork
3) Missing penalties
4) Goal keepers consistently being MOM
5) Lusie Suarez being banned

Remove some of these factors and we would be challenging for Champions League sports

FACT!

James C

2,3 and 4 are not bad luck, they are bad technique or talent or ability. Top players score penalties. Top players score not hit the woodwork. Top players beat the best of goaalkeepers no matter what. If we haven't been doing that then it's because we haven't been good enough - not because we've simply been unlucky.

SMc

1) 1 missing player shouldnt make a difference after over 120m been spent on our squad
2) Every team hits the woodwork
3) Pro footballers should be able to score more penalties than they miss
4) Keepers having MOM games against us is not an excuse, Its the GK's job to stop goals
5) Suarez was banned for making racial comments against Evra and making a gesture to the away fans, Both his own fault

we need to stop blaming everyone else for our own bad season, we are better than that, Next season will be different, hopefully, Steve96

Although some of your points are valid,missing pens and hitting the woodwork just highlights how poor we have been at finishing, hitting the woodwork is a shot OFF target so it may as well have been 20ft over or wide. We are desperate for a goal poacher,a player that will always be in the box when a cross comes in.

One thing people are failing to realise.........we have not improved our squad by £100m worth of players.
We have had to spend that amount to replace the £70m worth of players sold.
So using that logic we have improved the squad by £30m worth.
When you consider the likes of Poulssen, Konchesky, Babel, El-Zhar, Kyrgiakos etc you can easily see where the extra £30m has gone.

If none of those players had left and we had spent £100m on players then these arguments would have some valid points.

You HAVE to take into account the players that have left and the value that they went for.

You could argue a like-for-like transfer fee value of the fantasy football players most seem to want, but there's more to it than just the transfer fee.

There's the wages (plus other contract payments) - the FF player could be getting nearly twice as much by joining the other club over us.
There's the fact of whether they want to join us (not in the champions league) compared to a team in the champions league.

Then there is whether that FF player was deemed a player that would fit into the style of play that is trying to be achieved.

We are not too far away believe me.

Yes we haven't won some games, but I think there are probably 3 games that we have not deserved to win this year (the first Spurs game, Bolton & Wigan).

The rest of them we have pretty much played the other team off of the pitch (did anyone see the Arsenal game recently?????)

We need a clinical finisher, a proper right-winger and maybe a floating attacking midfielder (along the lines of the style of Mata or Silva), but that is not badly needed as Gerrard can play in the hole and so can Suarez.

We have hit the woodwork more times than any team.

The only reason we have hit the woodwork is because our shooting is poor. It's only bad luck when a freak gust of wind (or beach ball) alters the course of the ball... otherwise its bad technique.

There is no such thing as bad luck, only bad technique.

Nevada

31 Mar 2012 10:50:44
Ed if kenny was to go and be replaced by another manager, do you think that the transfer targets for the summer would change? surely a new manager might have their own targets so how can we negotiate with clubs when it is uncertain who the manager is next season {Ed002's Note - This is a day to day problem for all clubs and ideas may change. Comolli is in charge of the scouting system and regardless of who is manager will no doubt have a significant input.}

31 Mar 2012 10:41:54
Its getting really tiresome, all these posts moaning about the same stuff.

Its easier to be negative than positive I suppose.
So much for the famed LFC support.

The support is always there. Unfortunately it is all too easy for anyone to come on these pages and pretend to be a LFC fan and post negative propaganda. I don't hear too many 'Kenny Out Now' chants coming out of Anfield on match days.

cozinoz {Ed002's Note - We cut the obvious ones where we can but no doubt some get through.}

To be fair cozinoz you dont hear much of any chanting at anfield these days.

Nevada

31 Mar 2012 10:34:03
A song, dedicated to an old friend, sung to the tune of "Tommy" -

Let me tell you a story of a journo,
Who was working far away from his home,
Posting of the King's Irritation,
But was it really from his back bedroom ?

Should they put him in a secure division
And take him off to an Old Folks' Home,
Where there's no internet connection,
And no mention of Talksport or The S*n ?

As the banter started one morning
Under an Amsterdam sun,
We remember the journo SP
Who was shot down by 007's gun.

As he lay on his mattress typing, typing, typing,
With the ink running low on his Dell,
As he lay on his mattress typing, typing, typing,
These are the last words he wrote :

"Oh I am a Liverpool fan,
I stood on the Spion Kop,
Now I don't sing and I don't shout
Cos I'm too good for that.
I post my **** about the Reds,
And make sure you all know
The team we love, Liverpool,
Are bound for doom you know.
We won't win the League,
Or win the cup,
Or win in Europe too.
And when we play The Toffees
I will take the pi55 out of all of you,
Who paid £1-2-1-2-3 1-2-3 For a ticket !"


Not The Real Ken Dodd

This quite good actually. It had me checking back to see where his inspiration came from!

The Irish Rover ( Currently in Barbados, enjoying the sun! :) )

Ha ha class
mrbrown

31 Mar 2012 10:22:30
great website guys. we will probably lose tomorrow, and we will probably lose against everton in the fa cup semi final. we need to get rid of players asap. also why are we being linked with unknown british players. we need world class players now, not so called british talent. we want to play in the champions league, not in the championship. i don't know why kenny is saying that its been a great season for us. its been a disaster season in my opinion.

Can spot a manc a mile off

ian the red

So, he's a manc because he shares a different opinion? I don't agree with anything the poster has said other than we need world class players but just because his opinion is different to yours why assume he supports another club?

Corkpoolred

Looks like corkpoolred got out of bed the wrong side this morning
Tizer red

He is a Manc or he is Victor Meldrew. Certainly not a Liverpool SUPPORTER

cozinoz

Na tizer lol. Just hate when people are slated for having a opinion.

Corkpoolred

If thats his opinion I'd rather he not be a Lfc fan.

dd

He may or may not be a manc but he is slightly ill informed. Dalglish and Commolli do not have a british player bias... why do people always forget that they did also buy Enrique, Coates and Suarez...all foreign if im not mistaken.

Nevada

31 Mar 2012 09:53:32
If we loose to Newcastle then Kenny should loose he's 4 million a year job. Obviously he is out of he's depth he has done a great job in making newcastle a better team then us giving them all that money.

Yawn, yawn....change the music - all I can hear is white noise

cozinoz

Maybe you should support Newcastle then, you seem in such awe of them.
Money came from Chelsea.
Its boring now, get a life, stop moaning.

31 Mar 2012 09:24:58
come sunday....carra should not be in the first team...full stop....whats the odds he is tho....

31 Mar 2012 09:06:20
wats up lads.....does anyone know wats going on with bellas???

BADGER

Dodgy knees

31 Mar 2012 08:51:59
Kenny= legend...........Whether we agree on him having the job or not this so called history we have wouldnt be half as full with memories if it wasnt for this man, and if anyone thinks anyone else on the planet has a better interest in Liverpool doing well than him then show me who........
We all make mistakes but points tally or not weve mullered sides this year just not had a finisher to convert for us, it'll come......Patience is everything but it might not be as long a wait as we all think the way weve played at times this season........
Give the man a break this is Liverpool football club we look after our own.
YNWA JFT96 The Guv 81-9

To add to that post it wasnt Dalglish that hit the posts 23 times or missed 8 out of 12 penalties...again ifs and buts...if all these went our way we would be alot closer to the top, and you wouldnt see as many stupid posts about sacking the King!
JayB

Kenny has wasted so much money on talentless rubbish.He has one of the worst win percentages in the PL the worst at liverpool for 60 years.We are bottom of the form table loosing 5 out of 6 games at the most important time of the season. He will and should be sacked only still here because of he's name. I have no faith in him as a manager he has the worst tactics ie carroll on the bench when we needed a goal. Not making subs when needed.People say we only spent 30-40 million net but he spent 110 million he has no excuse.Look at the players he could have signed if he had the slightest clue about modern football. This is Liverpool not Blackburn in the 90's.The fact that he thinks the cups will save he's job as he sees them as more important then the league is almost laughable. When he talks to the media he comes across rude and looks like a tired old man. He could not handle the suarez situation and this reflected really badly on Liverpool football club. He is hated by most of the media a lot of the fans have no time for him anymore the players don't play for him look at the league table.This is why they say never go back. We have won a cup that a championship team should have won as they had the better chances.

To me it is very simple. If you dont sign the post that shows you conviction abt the post.

This gentleman doesnt seem to have the belief in his own comments...And he wants us to believe that our beloved manager Kenny Dalglish is not up to the task....I dont believe for even a second that this gentleman know even "F of FOOTBALL"...so spare him the other letters......

But as a measure of sympathy for the gentleman who is so much at odds with Kenny and his methods, lets ask him which other manager does he think is worthy of the honour of managing Liverpool....

Take ur pick...name five managers who you think are capable of managing Liverpool.........Do take into account the probability of them joining us......If you say Deschamps or Mourinho , you will be taken down since both of them have rejected the chance to come to Liverpool....also take into account where they are currently working.....if you say Klopp or Hiddink again you will be taken down since they are already well paid and manage teams in Champions League.....

so go on and take ur pick.....

LiverBird

To me it is very simple. If you dont sign the post that shows you conviction abt the post.

This gentleman doesnt seem to have the belief in his own comments...And he wants us to believe that our beloved manager Kenny Dalglish is not up to the task....I dont believe for even a second that this gentleman know even "F of FOOTBALL"...so spare him the other letters......

But as a measure of sympathy for the gentleman who is so much at odds with Kenny and his methods, lets ask him which other manager does he think is worthy of the honour of managing Liverpool....

Take ur pick...name five managers who you think are capable of managing Liverpool.........Do take into account the probability of them joining us......If you say Deschamps or Mourinho , you will be taken down since both of them have rejected the chance to come to Liverpool....also take into account where they are currently working.....if you say Klopp or Hiddink again you will be taken down since they are already well paid and manage teams in Champions League.....

so go on and take ur pick.....

LiverBird

@LiverBird, this is probably the best, most thought out intellectual approach and most sensible opinion i've read on here for a long time and it deserved to be copied and pasted again.

sick of the idiots who post on here that don't understand that we are still in debt, still in transition as a club since near administration not so long ago and not capable of paying the likes of mourinho's wages at roughly 250k a week for the 2/3 years he'd be at lfc for, plus he doesn't WANT to manage lfc!!

s.p

Joachim Loew.

SMc


p.s. I wasn't the poster of previous stuff I just think Loew would be a fantastic replacement if Kenny was to leave.

Low as done nothing at club level except winning the Austrian league I think it is.
He even took a team down. So what are you basing him being a fulltime manager of a Premier league team on!!
Probably the same thinking that nearly got us Klinnsman as manager

Lyndon

31 Mar 2012 07:40:52
In the summer we must buy diego and hernanes..The proble isn't in attack,it's in midlfield(Adam,henderson,spearing)..Passes must be more correct .In attack we have Carroll and Suarez
Reina,Johnson,Agger,Skrtel,Enrique
lucas,Gerrard
Diego,Hernanes,Downing
Suarez

In the summer we must get a new manager

So, who has created all those chances so for our forwards to hit the post over 20 times? You want diego downing wingers and suarez up top on his own? We still would have the same problem on the right NO PACE OR WIDTH! Suarez needs a partner up front, he simply can't play as the lone striker.

Corkpoolred

31 Mar 2012 07:10:15
Hey eds what is the condition of gaston ramire and matias suarez and lukk de jong.. {Ed002's Note - All young, fit and healthy.}

31 Mar 2012 05:12:37
For all you folks that want Kenny out, i look back and think that many of you are the same people that were calling for him to replace Hodgson not very long ago.
You are not true fans but 'fickle' nameless cretins(in so much as you're too scared to put your name up in case you are proved wrong and your shoulders and tiny ego are not big enough to handle the possibility that someone may actually remember your negative comments and post them up and shame you when you need to eat some humble pie for making a wrong call) Quit your bitching, man the f*** up and support the club through the good times and the bad - give Kenny a chance to build a squad that can dominate the domestic and European competitions for the long term. Granted he may have made a couple of errors with purchases but it hasn't really cost us that much in monetary terms due to the money generated by sales, when you consider the financial state of the our beloved club just over 2 years ago and consider that there may have been a point that there was very nearly no club at all had the banks pulled the plug.
Now get behind the club as we are moving slowly in the right direction and already have a piece of silverware in the cabinet from this season. We are also in the Semi final of the FA cup and if we win that, there is the chance of the Charity Shield so 1 piece of silver with the potential for 2 more in Kenny's first 18 months in charge and you want him to step down or be sacked - FFS! get a reality check if you haven't already had a full frontal lobotomy.
Do you think Slur Alex would have called what we have achieved with Kenny in charge for his first full season a failure if he had had the same start to his career at Utd?? No, i bet he bloody wouldn't - it took him a lot longer to get them their first piece of silverware and then they dominated for so long and still do. Fergie got it wrong to start with but with tweaks here and there along the way, he has built a successful dominant squad and some of the players he recruited back then were offloaded as soon as he realised he had got it wrong - remember up until very recently some of those players were still Utd players - a solid core that formed the basis of their dominance and no matter what players he bought they usually worked well with the rest of the core.
We will dominate again soon, the Liverbird is rising from the ashes like a Phoenix - Rome wasn't built in a day nor a season for that matter, be patient, be proud and support your club!
True Liverpool fans i ask you to read these words and before you reply think of the first 4 verses of our clubs anthem and what the words really mean to you. then feel free to start flaming me!!

Y.N.W.A.
ash240970

Good post

Great post! And to top it off, for the most part, we have played football in a style that is great to watch! The inconsistencies will gradually disappear as the squad continues to gel, and we add a few more signings over the summer. We are the only PL team to be undefeated in all cup competitions this season. Not an improvement on last season? Really? I don't know if it's all down to Football Manager, or people watching City or Chelsea, but teams need some time to mature into great teams. That's all we need, a bit more time, and a few additions. Nick.

Although I agree with your post, I don't agree with the part about people praising Kenny because our club is better off financially - that's all down to the owners so they need the praise when it comes to that!

Corkpoolred

I'll gladly put my signature to this post:

I don't think Dalglish is good enough to manage at the top level. His man management is strange, tactically he seems incredibly naive at times, he makes substitutions incredibly late, the results have been no were near good enough and he spent 100million+ on players who have failed to live up to there billing. If Dalglish was not such a legend at the club then people would have far less time and patience with him.

My dilemma is that when a club legend is in charge then it feels right and your heart tells you he should be there. When he doesn't do well you're more easy to forgive an give him time. In the current circumstance I don't know if giving him time is the best option for the club - and before people start bashing me for being anti-Dalglish let us not forget that the CLUB is the most important thing, more so than nostalgic admiration for a faltering club legend.


SMc

@SMc

You are as far away from football knowledge as the earth is from the moon.....

Of course you can see it like many brainless fans do but you can never appreciate it with this HIRE AND FIRE attitude.....

Suggest a few managers if you are brave enough to call for Kenny's head....

One of your suggestions previously, Joachim Lowe, has not even won the Bundesliga.... Our current manager already has an EPL medal at his home....

Note: I support Germany at international level

But I reiterate that Lowe is miles behind Kenny in management especially MAN MANAGEMENT and TACTICAL ACUMEN which are his forte....

LiverBird

31 Mar 2012 03:27:58
Alot of talk of Gaston Ramirez. I have watched him play 8 or 9 times. He is a good midfielder, but I am not sure how he would slot into our squad. Gerrard/Lucas/Ramirez? Or Gerrard more forward with Lucas/Ramirez in central midfield? What would happen to Adam and Henderson? While many of you will say 'bench or sell', Kenny will play these two, irrespective of form or ability, ergo this entire season......

Watching the wrong Ramairez. Gaston is a winger.

Gaston is an attacking mid and can play on both wings

31 Mar 2012 00:51:26
hey fellow reds just wanted to say that if you driving down to london like i did for the carling cup final and will for the fa semi final then make sure you use the m6 toll, it really does make a difference but, to be honest getting there is not too bad 3.5 hours for me but on the way back make sure you use the m40 which will take you straight onto the m6 toll missing out the m1 altogether, it makes a massive difference getting back , i spoke to some people who spent a good hour trying to get back onto the m1 and i was on the m40 within ten mins, so my journey time back was 3.25 hours , left london at 7.50pm and was back in liverpool in time to watch highlights on MOTD, just thought id share.

tommy c

YNWA

When i was living in uk allways took the m40 both ways hate that m6 m1

martin p {Ed002's Note - Handy if you are living in Birmingham.}

31 Mar 2012 00:41:15
Maybe we should sack Dalglish and get the dorks on here to pick the team and summer transfers. Supporting your team is for life through the storm or maybe some fans don't believe our tune. Give Kenny time, I for one saw him play and manage unlike a lot of the people on here. Walk On.

Its that sentimental attitude that has us sitting in 7th, at risk to drop into the bottom half. I think they call it blind faith. Good luck with that.

Kenny Dalglish is King YNWA

Soo many 'Arm chair managers'.
So why is it that you are not all football managers or coaches, you seem to know SOO very much about the game!.
Boring!.

31 Mar 2012 00:16:50
my team for newcastle:
------------------reina---------------------
---kelly---skrtel-----coates----enrique----
----------------spearing--------------------
------shelvey-----------gerrard-------------
------suarez----carroll---downing---------
bench:doni/carra/flanagan/henderson/sterling/kuyt/bellamy

Isnt agger fit?, if so id play him but defo agree 100% with the rest mate.

tommy c

Looks like a decent lineup, but me personally, I would drop Spearing for Henderson. Hendo has defensive ability, is faster, and most importantly, has a future in the starting 11, which Spearing does not. Might as well play him in central mid. Gerrard and Hendo can handle the defensive side of things in the middle. Also, I would love to see Sterling get a decent 30 mins against Newcastle.

I dont coz it suggests we are playing Suarez on the wing which would be a complete waste when he should be picking up on Carrolls headers.
A straight 4-4-2 is what is needed at St James's or a return to kennys 3-5-2 which won us points when we didnt particularly deserve em.

Red said Fred

31 Mar 2012 00:07:58
ins:
clyne rb age 20
armero lb/lm age 23
phillips rm/lm age 20
ramirez cam/cf/lm/rm age 20
de jong st/cf/rf age 21
total 40m

----------------reina-----------------
--kelly---skrtel---agger--enrique---
--------gerrard--lucas--ramirez-----
----suarez-----de jong---downing---

----------------gulacsi----------------
--clyne-carragher---coates--armero--
------henderson-spearing-adam----
---phillips-----carroll----bellamy----

send out on loan:
shelvey
robinson
wisdom
adjoran
suso
silva
sterling
flanagan

DORSET RED

Looks possible. But without adding a true right winger, we haven't really improved with your lineup. De Jong scores goals in Dutch league. He may not do a whole lot in PL. Ramirez would be upgrade on Adam, but not that much. This team might get ahead of Newcastle, but still behind top 5.

Clyne will sign for man utd