Liverpool Banter Archive May 31 2013

31 May 2013 23:22:59
falcoa. no champions league football but money speaks. why can't we sign someone like these then if money speaks

Monaco have way more money than Liverpool.

Ted

Because we don't have the money.

Don't know, maybe we just don't have the money?

We don't have the money.
In much the same way as the French football league will not have a club in Monaco when Rybolovlev gets bored and wants out.

Sitting in the sun in monte carlo and playing football with out pressure from fans who do not number many and counting my cash in the bank appeals, what do lfc have to offer to players who look at football as a job remember they do not look at things from a fans perspective they want what they can get out of the game they do not all want medals.

31 May 2013 23:17:02
If Suarez goes I reckon we just get big andy back and he'll bang loads of wife's I mean goals

31 May 2013 23:12:23
So he wants to go- well at leat he's being upfront about it.

But he should go on our terms.

He is more trouble than he's worth and shown scant loyalty to those who supported and protected him.

As I said before- sell him and get some players in that can progress the club. No player is bigger than the club.

Perhaps with the money we should show some ambition and do our best to get Lukaku in. He will be a real player in the future.

So Adios Luis, you don't want to play for the shirt, then go, you'll just be a decent player that came and went without being a legend. But FSG will sell you on their terms not yours.

M

Ur totally right, he is not the youngest player and real Madrid change their player around, let him be unhappy for a season carry on biting people who would want him then, he wanted barca they overlooked him for neymar he is reals 3rd choice and he was number 1 in lpool and were no mugs

31 May 2013 22:59:53
Is there any possibility of Mario Gomez as a replacement for Suarez? He would be perfect scores goals for fun and is proven at the highest level. And while I like the young players we are trying to sign I think Gomez would be a safer and better signing than Luis Muriel. Do you think we have any interest or chance with Gomez?

We tried to get him before carroll bayern refused the offer.

31 May 2013 13:07:58
Ed001 if Suarez does want to leave is it possible he would move to another premier league club? {Ed019's Note - The whole reason he wants to leave is because of England and the media}

That's a cop out Ed. If he thinks the media is better in Spain then he should ask Mourinho how they treated him. Not to mention the fact that the Madrid media sh*t on Ronaldo, who's their best player.

He wants to go to Madrid and its understandable, most players would. I just want him to admit it to the club discretely, instead doing these annoying interviews.

Good reasoning Luis.
Torment the dog, when it attacks, run away.

31 May 2013 23:42:52
Ed19 mate are you kidding? That's just an excuse, last year he tried his best to leave the club and go to juve, but juve were not ready to pay the money which we wanted, so he and his agent came with a plan by saying his ready to stay at Liverpool and sign longterm contract by improving his wages 3 times and activating a clause, if we don't match his ambition then he can leave, after buying lots of young players last year and a lot of young players already in our academy for our longterm, so he was expecting some top players to arrive this season and start matching his ambition because he is at a stage of his career where he needs to play in highest level or start winning top honours, he is 27+, but when he saw nothing has changed and still we are continuing buying young players which we already have enough of them in our academy and squad. Made his mind and started begging teams to bid for him!

31 May 2013 22:48:28
i know it will be a blow if suarez leaves us but after all were not a one man team each player on the team contributes something to the game. and if suarez does go I think we need a young and fresh striker that could boost team morale deff not david villa

sean mallon

Facundo Ferreyra from Argentina. 22 years old, quality.

31 May 2013 22:37:11
So he's finally said he's leaving. What a relief. Now we can really start looking upwards, both on the field and off it.
Hop

31 May 2013 22:32:36
I would be extremely happy with these 3 if suarez goes roughly same money give or take
Tello 8million
Eriksen 15million
Muriel 15 ~ 20million depending on competition, this is perfect for me have your say

31 May 2013 22:26:29
Eds, any news on Tom Ince coming back to the reds? {Ed052's Note - nothing new and I hugely doubt a move}

31 May 2013 22:24:17
this is a translation done by a latin-american LFC fan and it certainly shows Suarez's words being twisted and not properly translated.

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1rkj4f5

Cheers,

Irish redman

There is no twisting at there or anywhere else

Thanks Irish; that's an interesting read. We know what the British media are, yet they still manage to poke me off every time with their lies and manipulation.

ND

There is quite a bit of word twisting. In no place does Suarez say he wants to leave or issue a "come get me" plea to Madrid. And just so you know I'm not a delusional who would keep an unhappy player, I'd rather get 50m for selling Suarez even if he wants to stay, even though he is world class his conversion rate is the pits and we seemed to play more freely and fluidly (more movement and interchanging) when he wasn't playing. We get 50m and reinvest it for Benteke, Eriksen and some new defenders and we're ready for a top 4 assault AT LEAST if we can remain consistent.

Sorry for the rant lol,

Irish Redman

31 May 2013 22:18:21
When Suarez goes we should buy Facundo Ferreyra and Dries Mertens. Mertens a goal scoring winger which would allow Coutinho to play more centrally and Ferreyra, a natural goalscorer who's good now at 22 and going to get even better, potentially better than Suarez and Falcao.

31 May 2013 22:13:28
Hey Ed, if we get £40m for Suarez, which there is a good chance happening, what replacements of his calibre do you think we can target, assuming we can going to spend the whole £40 on the replacement? Thx {Ed052's Note - ive answered this loads. Read the posts or search Suarez saga}

We won't be spending 40 million on one player to risky we will rebuild a new team instead of having one world class suarez we'll have strengths all over the pitch

31 May 2013 22:09:20
Luis Alberto this boy is a player I would be happy if we got him for around the 5m mark! Lfc YNWA
Craig big balls

31 May 2013 21:56:41
Hi Eds, do you know when Carroll is expected to make a decision on WHU? Is he just waiting for other others? {Ed052's Note - I expect he will go, probably to WHU as its his only offer}

31 May 2013 21:50:11
If Suarez goes, how about a cheeky bid for Lukaku. A beast of a player. Powerful like Drogba, but with pace. This guy is going to be awesome!

Chelsea would be stupid to sell him then.

Ste.

31 May 2013 21:46:16
In my opinion if Luis wants to go we should let him off just make sure that we get a good price for him and try and get this saga over asap instead of dragging on all over the summer. Remember he will be out (if he stays) for for another 6 games and who knows what bans he may get during the season.

31 May 2013 21:37:21
Any chance of Lamela? {Ed052's Note - very very little}

31 May 2013 21:21:14
Never mind real Madrid how about alethico Madrid trying to buy suarez 50 million Should be enough straight swap like Falco for aguero

31 May 2013 21:15:24
I know this gets asked every window, but what is the situation with Honda atm? I've wanted us to sign him for what feels like for ever, he's extremely talanted and the market he'd open up would pay for it's self. So yeah is anyone interested?

Keep up the good work eds :) {Ed052's Note - search engine please}

Worst reasoning.

1) Liverpool are already huge in Asia and specifically Japan
2) Japanese fans would rather have Gerrard on their shirt than Honda
3) The money brought in from shirt sales is so minimal and so minute it is insignificant
4) Honda is a very very very poor player, no real talent aside maybe free kicks, not good enough at all
5) Liverpool haven't had an interest in 3 years

31 May 2013 20:59:05
Hi eds
Was just wondering on your views on how our midfield will be looking next year, clearly it is a squad game these days but what do you think out starting line up will be. Despite playing well on the wing I think it became clear to most that coutinho is at his most effect playing centrally and dictating the play, but this leaves us with a slightly difficult position with relation to put midfield. If coutinho and Gerard are in the three then it would have to be Lucas to provide some stability and bite, but this would leave joe Allen and Henderson out of the side which is a very expensive couple of players to sit on the bench especially with joe Allen who isn't really an impact player likely to come on to change the game. Also without being able to tackle particularly wel or get forward it would leave Allen battling with gerrard for a starting place which wouldn't allow him a lot of game time so was just wondering what your thoughts were?
Cheers
Alex YNWA {Ed052's Note - at home/easy opposition, Coutinho will probably be through the middle. Against harder oposition, he will go left and another midfielder brought into the team. Allen will be used in rotation, like Hendo, and if they perform well will stay in the team}

Cheers eds, do you think Brendan is hoping that one may develop and push for a place this season and maybe start taking some pressure off gerrard and maybe start to replace him long term? {Ed052's Note - yes, and I expect we will have 5 top midfielder firing on all cylinders}

Ed, so who do you think will be our top 5 midfielders? {Ed052's Note - Lucas, Gerrard, Allen, Hendo, Coutinho}

31 May 2013 18:55:35
Dear Ed (s), what are the chances of get Botia considering SEvilla's financial situation? {Ed052's Note - its a possible move}

31 May 2013 22:27:01
Is he any good ed? {Ed052's Note - yes, Ed001 has heard only good things about him}

31 May 2013 20:45:49
Hi Eds,

Just a quick thing on Falcao and his Monaco move. Why are people saying it's a bad move? He will get astronomical wages and Live and play football In Monaco that doesn't sound to bad. And people will say he is a mercenary and will follow the money, if so then why haven't players like Falcao flocked to play for Anzhi? They don't always go for the money.

Now that Atletico Madrid have 50 million do you see them moving for Luis Suarez?

Regards

Marc {Ed052's Note - he went to Monaco for money; if he moved for footballing readons he'd pick a champions league team}

Money and the fact it's Monaco! I mean imagine living there, awesome!

Their average gate is about 5,000, they are newly promoted, the French league is poor. It's sad but he has moved for 1 reason: cash

AJH

Ed that's rubbish that's like saying if Liverpool wer a rich club and had the finances to buy falcao he would have only come for money not the football {Ed052's Note - if we offered him the highest wage he would have come here. Thats not rubbish}

So you're sayin the location dosnt mather? If u could move anywhere in the world, would u go to russia? Monaco with beaches and nice people dosnt sound that bad.

Chris

31 May 2013 21:52:55
But they will be soon in champions league, same as city or psg, they might even start winning top honours then Liverpool getting back in champions league!

They only average 4,000 fans a game

Jonesred

I would move to monaco they are paying stupid amounts of money its an amazing place to live and if they keep up this amount of spending they will be a real force in europe. doesn't sound too bad to me

Falcao was owned buy investors who sell their asset for the biggest fee offered so it was not nessiserily in the guys own hands

31 May 2013 20:38:20
Hi eds,

I have said for a while now that there are no like for like replacements for Suarez, so can you see the formation and shape of the team being shuffled around as a result?

This may be a good move for us as a club, we can start playing as a team rather than a one man Suarez army.

Anonymous woolback {Ed052's Note - no, if anything our formation will be more fluid. Like I said in my article, I think the team can improve with his departure}

31 May 2013 20:01:08
Who would u prefer? Luis Alberto or Thomas ince? Kinderfish

Luis Alberto (never seen him play but what a name) lol

Luis Alberto. Hands down.

Not seen much of either but more of ince but for me it has to be Alberto.
YNWA
Jamesy

31 May 2013 19:54:55
Hello eds. Alex Pearce is another name being linked recently, I presume after the picture with Ayre. Have we shown any interest in him yet, apart from the photo is there anything to go on is what i'm asking.

31 May 2013 19:54:19
Alright eds a little off topic I understand but do any of you go to watch any footie matches when you can? Hows bout you ed02 do you follow the chelsea in you spare time? Just out of interest

Ian the red {Ed002's Note - I go to games occasionally - I went to the Europa cup final and went to a couple of games earlier in the season. I have also seen a few games in other countries this season.}

Quite the globetrotter then ed? what other games have you been to abroad? any exciting ones like the Milan derby or of similar importance?

Ian the red {Ed002's Note - I have lived in mainland Europe for most of the past 30 years and get to games as and when really. Fenerbahce and Galatasaray had the best atmosphere.}

31 May 2013 20:36:23
Suarez will probably do a Rooney and decide he wants to stay, not likely though.

How is something probable yet not likely?

Because there's always a chance

31 May 2013 20:29:58
Selling Suarez might not be the worst thing in the world:

If we got £50m for him, and adding the £25m or so FSG have given Rodgers to spend, plus what we get from sales (Skrtel, Downing, Carroll, Assaidi, Spearing, Shelvey, Coates) which could be about another £40m or so. Leaving Rodgers with over £100m to invest in and shape his own team.

We've already got:

Toure (Free)
Aspas (£7m)

and Rodgers seems to want:

A Winger (Atsu)
A defender (Papadopoulos)
A midfielder (?)
A Left Back (Digne)

But the sale of Suarez could also allow him to invest in a top quality right winger (Navas, Sanchez etc) a creative midfielder (Eriksen) as well as a replacement for Suarez.

Yes at first I was upset that we could be losing a world class player. But now I'm thinking that he's constantly in some sort of trouble (he's been banned for like 18 games in just two seasons) and that must affect the rest of the team. And despite his genius, we have shown that perhaps we function better as a whole without him. Also, as I said before, the money we get for him could improve the team as whole.

Thoughts?

Irishdom15

31 May 2013 21:07:10
If we sell suarez and don't buy any top player to replace him, and invest more money on pontential or young players which we already have in bunches through academy and our squad, where will that leave us?

I think we are being smart in our early moves - it looks like a chess game to me.

Priority One - Carragher has retired, experienced player required TOURE done deal on a Free.

Priority Two - use summer budget to move for players we have scouted and who will add depth to the squad. ASPAS (also an insurance policy for the potential loss of Suarez & Downing), ATSU and ALBERTO all ensure we have pace, goals and creativity and allow LFC to now listen to offers for Downing, Shelvey & Assaidi knowing we've signed (hopefully) three better players for roughly the same amount of cash the three players above could go for.

Priority Three - strengthen central defence. PEARCE may or may not sign and will be 4th/5th choice on a free. PAPADOPOLOUS, ILORI etc could follow should we sell Skrtel & Coates. Pearce signing (if it happens) gives us the option of sorting Wisdom a season long loan at a PL club (a good thing as in 2 yrs we want him replacing Toure)

Priority Four - get the best price for Suarez and deploy the plan to replace him. If we get 40m (top price in my opinion) and can then use that money to get an up and coming striker like MURIEL, a long-term target like ERIKSEN and a right sided attacker like FEGHOULI I think most Liverpool fans would consider that a decent outcome given the quality of those players. If we could also sort a season-long loan at Sevilla or Valencia for Suso even better.

Priority Five - End the Carroll saga and with the money address DM or LB. I'd sort the former first and believe SCHNEIDERLIN for 8-10m would be a shrewd bit of business.

Priority Six - Get as much as possible for the fringe players like Spearing, Pacheco, Morgan, Flanagan & Ngoo. Reinvest some of that in more youth players and possibly a young 3rd choice GK.

If all goes well we end up with:

Reina; Jones; **gk**
Johnson; Kelly (Wisdom loan)
Enrique; Robinson (or loan)
Papadopolous; Agger; Toure; Ilori (LB cover) Pearce
Lucas; Schneiderlin
Gerrard; Allen
Eriksen; Henderson; Alberto; Suso (Loan)
Feghouli; Aspas; Sterling (or loan)
Sturridge; Muriel; Borini; Yesil (or loan)
Coutinho; Atsu

Not too many changes to the team that finished the season well but real quality coming into the starting XI with loads of talented players busting a gut to get a game keeping those wearing the shirt honest. Also a chance to blood our most promising Academy graduates via the loan system ensuring they come back better equipped to compete for a first team place. Suso knows he has to be better than Eriksen or Coutinho, Sterling must reach the level of Feghouli or Atsu etc. And thanks to the Suarez money this can all be achieved this summer at almost no cost in terms of net spend.

Kidder

31 May 2013 23:19:31
Mate footy is not as easy a chess haha, or else we wouldn't be rotting at midtable, its almost 8 years without champions league and still continuing, and we still continue buying young players with very little progress,


I don't understand why continue buying young players when we have more then enough of them, we need proven players to take us to another level, if we don't start competing in highest level, and the likes of coutinho etc start shining will easily be taken by bigger clubs who are playing in highest level and will find ourselves in same situation after investing so much time!

Mate we've barely competed for the title in TWENTY years and more and in the last managers reign we wasted huge amounts of money on sub standard players. Rodgers is buying good footballers which fills me with hope. I'm lucky enough to remember the late 70s and 80s teams. Building a young team is the way to go. Look at the squad above and it's not exactly short of experience where it matters is it?

31 May 2013 20:20:41
Waro {Ed002's Note - You need to take your anti-poster and anti-owner crap elsewhere. The DF that is Suarez is causing problems for the club and you use that as an excuse to yet again have a dig at the owners.}

What a strange state of affairs when a Chelsea fan has more appreciation and respect for our owners than one of our own fans.

Let me guess. (fill in the blank) = FSG's lack of ambition?

Ed's, I say let Waro have his continuous moans at whoever, even if they are unjustified. His come from is completely out of fear for something he loves. I get that, it's his personality.

Many will be looking at management and the board at times like this for hope, direction, blame, foresight or whatever. Waro's total negative 24/7 attitude and approach is a curse not a blessing, in all honesty the lad just probably needs a hug Ed! :)

BCDI. (Waro, sort it out man, it's just another player who's off to Spain, nothing new and it's not like we didn't see this coming!)

31 May 2013 20:18:43
Muriel does look like a quality player, and his weight issues got sorted out quickly, with more team doctors and physicians etc. this won't be an issue.

Praised by Di Natale as better than other target Sanchez, so surely he would be better than Sanchez as a buy, any ideas Eds?

http://www.football-italia.net/33750/muriel-will-be-great-says-di-natale

Love the site btw YNWA

31 May 2013 20:06:31
Hi eds, just a quick one and something different to all the posts about Suarez. do u see kolo being first choice next year or do u think Kelly's more likely to move in beside agger? Cheers {Ed052's Note - yes, first choice. Kelly will get chances at CB too}

Skrtel and Agger will be first choice. Toure and Pearce will be second choice. Kelly and Wisdom remain at right back.

Red Lee

31 May 2013 20:32:15
Hey eds do you think after the signing of kolo do you think we will try to sign another first choice centre back like papadopoulos or a younger cheaper one like ilori or alex pearce {Ed052's Note - we will get atleast 1 more CB. Younger too, to rotate}

Nah Toure won't be first choice!

Toure will be first choice. His experience is huge and I very much doubt Skrtel will even be here in august.

31 May 2013 19:36:28
Funny that when kenny was sacked it was because they didn't get in the top 4, nothing to do with the Suarez racism issue. Now Suarez kicks up a drink and wants to leave, it was him help got kenny sacked.

Djay

It was a bit of both really mainly the spending 100 million on dross

Bit of revisionist history there. Many (including and Ed or two, I believe) have said that the handling of the Suarez incident always had a part in the sacking- this isn't a new theory by any means.

Kenny was not seen as the way forward, either.
Why does everything have to come down to one thing? or a technicality?
Is this just earier to understand than rationalisation?

31 May 2013 19:35:37
Controversial one. I've been a fan 36 years and i'm 40 this year, and I know a few havnt forgiven him. But i'd take Nando back in a flash, Always loved him regardless of the circumstances for leaving,
Yeah yeah I know i'm going to get some move on forget it comments. But I don't think he's finished yet.
Ill await the boos. lol
YNWA JFT96

No boos of me I agree risky but worth a shot

I have been a supporter for 33 years I am now 37. I agree. Got to say my heart nearly fell out when nando left. I know I won't feel the same if Suarez leaves. BR is the man to ten us round.
YNWA
Jamesy

I agree with you! If you think about it he left to win trophies and in the time he was gone he won the champions league, the FA cup (against us) and the europa league, along with going to the club world cup and the super cup, not bad considering all we have won is the league cup.
Wouldn't mind el nino returning!
Will

Totally agree risky but if he got another chance he would jump at it! Liverpools no9. Na na na na

NO

Puzzled

Didn't score a premier league goal for something like 17 hours. With mata hazard and Oscar around him. He will never be the same player to what he was before his knee Injury. I never want him in red, not because he's ex lfc or for any other reason than, he's not a good footballer.

I'd prefer us to go and get a talented, hungry forward who actually wants to play for Liverpool Football Club - both Torres and Suarez have shown that they don't.

Torres has shown that he DIDN'T!
I feel his loss of form when arriving in Chelsea was simply down to the realisation of making a bum decision in leaving a place he loved.

31 May 2013 19:16:53
Raldam Falcoa 27, signs for Monaco for 50million
Luis suarez 25, signs for. for?

Liverpool have to stay firm or I think many supporters will lose belief in tye way the clubs ran {Ed019's Note - Suarez is nearly 27}

Suarez is better than falcao but we are Liverpool and sell him for 25 mill then buy alex pearce for 10 mill

If Suarez is better than Falcao how come Monaco didn't offer us £55m for him?

Kidder

Perhaps Monaco were aware of the possibility of facing competition in the signing of Suarez.
Falcao would not join Real Madrid, it would be detrimental to his health. So he is naturally an easier target for Monaco. {Ed002's Note - Monaco has no interest in Suarez.}

31 May 2013 19:02:35
Ed's please answer me this. I was reading along and you say the chances of getting PEA (Aubamayeng) are "zip", yet we are showing interest in Muriel who could be "quite costly". Why is that? Because I can tell you PEA is much better than Muriel in all aspects! And I believe he'd only cost about 15-17m and Muriel almost the same 17-19m. I think PEA > Muriel all day. Why would our chances be slim? LFC is a big step up from St Ettiene! {Ed002's Note - There has been lots of interest from elsewhere - nothing whatsoever from Liverpool.}

Muriel is a better than PEA- and I'm an Aubameyang fan, in fact I wanted us to sign him in January. PEA is good but Muriel is special mate.

RedKopite

31 May 2013 19:00:38
Is it possible to have some kind of end of day summary? Which can include which players LFC is still strongly interested in, deals done so far, players sold so far and etc. {Ed002's Note - Why not read the posts?}

Well I do read all the post. But there is so much of incorrect information written in other posts that just makes me wonder who are the real targets and who are not?

31 May 2013 18:53:33
It's a pity that things have come to this in regards to Luis Suarez, we stood by him through all the controversy that he's brought to the club and this is how he repays us by saying he wants to leave Liverpool! Got to say that the media have gone overboard sometimes in regards to Suarez but he's brought most of it on himself with the racism and biting incidents! We all stuck by him during the racism row, but as soon as he bites someone then we should of made the decision ourselves and decided to sell him there and then! It's not the 1st time he's done it, he did it at Ajax too! You shouldn't make the same mistake twice! He's clearly got problems! I'm sure we can get a good price for him and get adequate replacements with the money! What will make me laugh is that whoever he joins he will end up doing something stupid and outrageous for them and we shall end up saying thank god we got rid of Luis Suarez!

Ack17

31 May 2013 18:54:33
Can people stop mentioning Varane he's 19 and one of the best CBs in the world and probably will be for the next 10-15 years he's not going to move to Liverpool in exchange for Suarez especially with them adding money. He's probably worth the same as Suarez

Most people mention him sarcastically as we know he's worth around the same. They are demanding him sarcastically to compare him to how much they believe Suarez is worth

That's true, Varane is one of the top CBs and they won't sell him at any cost.

Don' talk nonsense. Central defenders, no matter how good do not fetch the value of a top class striker. It would take a world record fee to do so.

Ferdinand was what, 30m? David Luiz was over 20m for a sporadic player, yes he's gotten to be a good cb but still. It all depends on demand and how much you want a player

31 May 2013 18:46:39
Hi
Ive been reading about Liverpool transfer rumours and I think if we sell suarez we should get luis alberto, atsu and maybe grenier. If we sell suarez for 40 mil I think Rodgers will make the right decisions for which players to buy.

31 May 2013 18:44:22
Hello fellow kopites the only positive from the Suarez sale,
with the possible sales of Suarez, Carroll, Assaidi, Downing, Spearing, Pacheco, Shelvey, Coates & Skrtel + some of owner transfer funds we are likely to have close to 100 million pounds for transfers.

From they if we manage to pull-off all our transfer targets i. e PAPA, Illori, Alex Sandro, Muriel, Mikhritiyan and possibly someone like Soldado or Benzema as part of the Suarez deal (Unlikely I know) + the ones we have already got it definately will be a great summer window.

31 May 2013 18:28:25
"Let's be honest whether you like Suarez or not. that statement he made about no one supporting him is beyond ridiculous, absurd and ungrateful to say the least. As a matter of fact. he is the one who needs to honour his contract to thank the club for supporting him that much. " This is a quote off a Liverpool website on facebook and I could not agree more with it! I loved suarez since he came to Liverpool, he's such a complete player, he can do everything and he's soo passionate and fiery when he plays and he will do anything to win. Everytime he has done anything bad I've defended him with my mates who wouldn't support Liverpool and when the media have given him a hard time about diving etc but ya can't bite someone and expect not to be ridicuelled by the media!
Reading his latest comments about being forced out of england I think he is just pushing for a move to be honest and blaming the media as if he has done nothing wrong so the fans won't turn on him!
Lastly to be honest I don't care what he does. I've lost some respect for him with his latest comments to the media, if he stays I will support him as he is a quality player and if he goes then off with him, i'm sure rogers will have a replacement readied.
Also if he comes out to rogers and wants to leave I hope we go around to the likes of PSG, Monaco, Juventus, Real madrid, bayern munich and any other clubs interested and tell them to bid because if madrid are the only club to bid and they know he is unhappy then they think they will get him for nothing!
Cheers ed and good luck for the summer!

Quinner

Great post mate, spot on.
LS7.

Kenny Supported Suarez

No Mgr. has Supported his players more than Kenny

That was one of the main issues that got Kenny Sacked.

What suarez is probaly talking about is how cute BR played the biting incident! BR did not back suarez like Kenny did!

It proves BR is a politician and Kenny wears his heart on his sleeve.

Outstanding that people can somehow make this suarez thing about BR

What a ridiculous reply, his own mother wouldn't have defended him for biting ivanovic never mind Rodgers, another stupid comment from a stupid person who picks at anything to have a dig at BR.
JJ

Rodgers didn't back Suarez because what Suarez did was inexcusable. Kenny totally misjudged the situation.

31 May 2013 20:23:19
"BR is a politician"
"Kenny wears his heart on his sleeve"

Stupidest post ever.

BR had a normal reaction, Kenny was stupid

31 May 2013 18:23:26
There's no point keeping a player who doesn't want to be here

Just sell him

Didn't stevie want to leave at one stage?

King Luis

Stevie did not want to leave and those were very different circumstances to that of Suarez!

Try comparing apples with apples not apples with nuts!

If Stevie really really wanted to leave he would have.

31 May 2013 18:18:16
Why is everyone quoting 35million?

Suarez is worth far more than that, 50 million as a start, working up to 65-75. That is the compensation we need and must get for our troubles, If the owners are such good businessmen then they will do their homework and get the money we deserve.

This is Real Madrid we are talking about, they don't care about his controversy and WILL pay a huge sum for a player like him, they do it all the time.

Anonymous woolback

He would probably be worth the ranges you're providing if it wasn't for the pretty consistent lengthy bans every year, inability to shut his mouth, and now rather apparent desire to move. None of these plays to our favor in any negotiations.

No idea why people keep comparing him to Bale. Bale is 3 years younger, aside from the occasional dive isn't overly controversial, and hasn't expressed publicly a desire to move so therefore he is likely to be worth more.

£40 mill at best mate!

I don't think his problematic character has something to do with a reduced price. The guy is immense player and is not guaranteed that he will be getting bans regularly wherever he goes. The price is all about quality of a player. If they think he is trouble and they care about it then they shouldn't be getting him at all

40 to 50 million no more no less with in that bracket

Marca/Real are trying to tamp down the price. Liverpool should declare him available to all,. for £50 million. Then it's up to Suarez to agree personal terms with potential suitors.

If he ''only wants to go to Real'' then Real better pay, unless he isn't worth it to them? Happy to sell for £50m.

31 May 2013 18:05:13
Just seen that Suarez said that the coach and the players treated him badly. Bullsh*t let's remember the shirts they wore and Kenny being sacked because of him. unless Rodgers has been bullying him he is talking crap.
Will {Ed052's Note - Suarez never said that, he said the players and coaches knew he was treated badly by the press, not that players and coaches had treated us badly}

It's getting ridiculous. His obituary already written, fans having a pop. The man hasn't left yet.
What's everyone going to say if he does stay?
Just see what happens.
The Juicer

Oh ok misunderstood on tv
Will

31 May 2013 17:58:20
What is the current status of Muniain? Will he move on this summer and if the case is so, are we interested? The same question for Griezmann as well. {Ed052's Note - 1) fallen back. 2) last I heard Arsenal were the most interested but staying put wasn't unlikely}

31 May 2013 17:05:54
hey eds, with the rumours of madrid offereing callejon in a part exchange deal, I just wanted to know your opinion of the player.

Ive always thought he was a great player but a lot of the posters on here think otherwise, thought that maybe your opinion is probably the best to ask for.

So what do you think of the player? would you be happy if we sign him?

Thanks :) {Ed052's Note - Ed019 has answered this}

31 May 2013 17:55:33
My head is spinning with media reports linking us with players one day, saying its a done deal, then next day the player or club or agent denying it, now it's Suarez, is he going or not? I have come to the decision to laugh at anything the media throw's up, unless it's confirmed by LFC I don't believe it.

31 May 2013 18:37:32
Or Macca, he's usually reliable!
Jdog ynwa

31 May 2013 17:55:28
We will definitely be selling Suarez now, so if it is Madrid he's bound for what deal would people expect for him?

35-40 million plus Alonso?

25-30 million Coentroa?

35 million J. Callejon?

Maybe even Alonso plus Higuian and 15 million?

Or another combination. Be interesting to see people's opinions.

Ithink we should be demanding say 60-65 million like Tottenham do. We won't get that but we could be looking at 50-55 million of we play hardball. We don't need to sell, so let's not be held to ransom by the buyer. I'd hope Monaco show an interest so the fee gets higher.

Jonesred

A thing you need to take into consideration, are the wages of these players. I think it could be possible to get Alonso back, and I think it would be a wise choise, but where would Lucas and Allen fit in the team if we got him? I don't think that we would get 35-40 million + Alonso for Suarez. 25-30 + Alonso seems more reasonable.
Since we're getting rid of Suarez, we need a replacement. Jese Rodriguez would be great, not as good as Suarez, but I think he will be great, and even better in the future.

RedFuzz

31 May 2013 17:48:17
Hi LFC supporters world wide! Any known interest in Heung Min Son from Hamburg?! I would be so pleased to see Sonny in an LFC kit! He's so good! Also I'm hoping for Benteke or Mertens. Belgium has great talents that LFC should bring in! YNWA!

Ed52 I agree. But I think in this public airing of views from Luis he is showing the deepest level of disrespect to the fans that have supported him through very difficult times for the club which were of his making. As a fan of LFC it upsets me that our loyalty has been misplaced and the club is the only one that can register our views and be heard to a wider audience. We need to take the initiative and say if you want to go ask for a transfer now. Then tell all would be buyers our acceptable terms.

This is becoming about the fans self respect being challenged by the person we have supported the most since I have been following LFC.

31 May 2013 17:39:49
How about 20m+ varane and jese rodriguez for suarez?

31 May 2013 18:21:19
Good shout i'm suprised no one has mentioned jese rodriguez till now, I agree with both players but think it should be something like 30-35+ and them two players.

ACHILLES.

31 May 2013 17:36:57
SUAREZ 40 MILLION, BALE 65 -70 MILLION. D'ONT THINK SO. were are use buying that stuff use are smoking. suarez in the top 3 players in the world

31 May 2013 18:07:57
Suarez wants to leave, bale doesnt, player has the power now, if Real bid 30 million and that is the only place he wants to go to then he will get his move or sulk,

Oh behave! Top 3!

Not even top 10

Not in the top ten? oh behave

Name me 10 players who are proven to be better than Suarez. Andy K

31 May 2013 17:33:53
Somebody asked for Luis Alberto Romero's stats for this year including conversion rate. I have painstakingly put this together. You'll have to believe me when I say that it was hard work accruing this data as there is no central body for compiling Spanish Segunda player stats, so I compiled it myself.

Luis Alberto Romero
---------------------------
Games--------Goals------Assists------Shots---Shot%
---37---------11---------18----------29-------37. 9


I'd make that a very respectable collection of stats even for a second division player, they will no doubt dip quite a bit coming to england but I still expect him to have about 40% of the stats he earned this year.

I'd compile his stats from the previous year as well but he was only used as a sub so there would be little point. and it was a ball ache to compile these. Enjoy.

31 May 2013 18:24:46
It took me less than 5 minutes to find them stats on transfermarkt haha.

ACHILLES.

Is that 29 total shots or shots on goal? Cause 11 goals from 29 total shots is very, very impressive.

Thanks for the insight and taking the time- very interesting reading!

Yes Achilles it's very easy to find his goals, assists and games but transfer market doesn't list the amount of shots he's had or his conversion rate.

His shots is in total for this season.

Ah sorry guys. I put the wrong figures up. it should read like this

Games 37
goals--11
assists-18
shots--59
%-----18. 6

Sorry, my mistake. I copied the wrong data table. These are now correct, I've double checked.

Thanks, Nevada. 29 shots in 37 games with 11 of them going in the back of the net is pretty amazing, even if it's Segunda. Based on what I've been able to read/watch of the kid I have to admit to being probably more excited about him then I should be (assuming he comes, of course) but at the least he certainly appears to have some promise.

31 May 2013 17:28:54
Pretty obvious Saurez is going! Your best player not even on the main billboard on the KOP and not printing his name on any kit the other night at the midnight kit launch is silly! 50 million easy and that will pay for our new defence shaw 10 andlerwield 15
begovic 10, papa - 15 fair deal to me! Just hope we bring in Muriel now with the Carroll money!

Cheers PDLFC

31 May 2013 17:15:49
Hi Eds. With Suarez possibly leaving, in your opinion who will we look at to "replace" him? Any chance of Emanuele Emenike, Christian Benteke, or Pierre Emerik Aubamayeng? I'm just not sure Luis Muriel is what we need (I've only watched few videos but I'm not impressed especially with the oppositions GKs and defending) We need a pure goal getter but also someone who fits the system. i'd really like to see us go for Benteke or Aubamayang. Any thoughts? {Ed052's Note - I've answered this already, and given a good indeptht view into the saga earlier on the banter page, everything you need there.}

What time was that at help me looking true {Ed052's Note - Go onto the Liverpool Rumour Articles page, top one, by me : Here you go - http://www.liverpool-rumours.co.uk/liverpool-rumours-the-suarez-saga.php }

31 May 2013 17:11:53
If we sign alex pearce I will cry.

Me too

Are you one of those people crying that we need players who can cope withStoke and Everton away in mid winter? If we get a strong defender who can play DM for free why are you so unhappy? If he contributes more than Coates we are better off both on the field and in the financial stakes. I posted a while ago that whenBR mentioned players that aren't big names he was referring to the likes of Williams and Pearce. If its Toure and Pearce and a promising young foreign defender how is this a bad signing?

Kidder

Coates gets a fair amount of criticism on here, but to play devils advocate for a second part of the blame lies with KD, unfortunately. He had an opportunity when signed last season to play him in the second half of the season to bring him up to speed with the PL. it is a big sep up from South american leagues after all. At the time Carra was poor, but aside from a couple of games he didn't get the opportunity.

I don't understand the signing of Pearce personally. I would rather Kelly, wisdom and possibly Sama given opportunities.

Richards

31 May 2013 17:07:01
If we sign Alex Pearce and Kolo Toure to replace Carra and Skrtel I will lose all hope in football.

If Liverpool owners or players see this post, they will loose all faith in fans

RD

Maybe to replace coats!

31 May 2013 17:07:38
Liverpool to ask for �15 million and Raphael Varane in the sale of Luis Suarez to Real Madrid, shoring up their Center Back position for a decade.

31 May 2013 16:59:18
Come on Liverpool give the rest of Europe a chance to sign the top talent. Toure, Aspas, Alberto & now Alex Pearce! LOL.

Disney!

Haha we'll be lucky to get top half next season mate

Liverpool is finished was good whilst it lasted

Disney, If I were you I would be more concerned about your new trophy less manager and the questionable future fortunes of Utd than in the purchases of LFC!

If only we could be signing Fellaini instead.

Nevada

I think the Premier League will be very suprised by Iago Aspas and Luis Alberto next season.

Must be gutted that you'll never re-sign Ronaldo.

Nevada,
Fellani would never leave a top 6 side for a mid table team ;-)
Chris the REDman
P. s we will worry about our moyes and trophies u worry about trying to get above 7th lol Alex pearce lol

Disney a scout for Liverpool now.

31 May 2013 16:53:17
As George Bernard Shaw once said:

The moment we want to believe something,
we suddenly see all the arguments for it,
and become blind to the arguments against it.

Now we might start to see suarez, as the person everyone says he is.

Why are you down on him he wants to move, let him go, fans favorites leave Keegan was replaced by the King, Rush was replaced by Barnes and Beardsley. Torres by Suarez. When ever he wore the shirt he gave 110%. That's what we should remember. I wish him luck.

31 May 2013 16:41:54
This is not a rumour but I would really appreciate if this is posted.
Talking about Suarez and his recent comments:
Lets not kid ourselves, as much as he is trying to front the english media and the safety of his family as the reason for wanting to leave, we all know he is leaving for the greener pastures at Madrid. Higher pay, Champions League football, More Endorsements and all that. The press don't make up stories, they only report stories. If he had conducted himself properly, would he be castigated like this? He has no right to blame anyone because everything that has happened to him, he brought upon himself. Ok, let's say the FA don't like him, but the FA won't just sanction him for nothing, he keeps doing things to instigate and stir up trouble and incure FA action. We've been blindly supporting him so he wouldn't feel alone but its high time someone let's him know he is the architect of his own predicament. He did the same thing in Holland, went to a world cup and again did something stupid, came to England, did several stupid things ranging from Racism, Giving the finger to Fulham, Diving, Handling the ball (I don't blame him for that one), Admitting to diving to win a penalty, Punching an opponent in an international game, then bitting an opponent for the second time. Tell me how the press would leave him alone, they want stories, he keeps giving them stories. I say we take the money and sign Burak Yilmaz + Erik Lamela/Stephane El Sharaawy

Yeh but we stand by our own. He shows fight and class on the pitch and as long as he his giving his best for Liverpool the fans will stand by him, it's not like he's actually done something bad, its all child's play escalated by the media

Congratulations on the most counterfactual sentence in the history of sentences.
"The press don't make up stories, they only report stories"
Ha! Special. Have a great weekend.

che47

Doesn't matter what he does on the pitch, he's entitled to his and his family's privacy off it, end of!


RD

31 May 2013 16:38:34
Alex Pearce! what sorcery is this. what good he can bring crap defender. bad player form a relegated club. we are going backwards if we bring in him even for free. Better keep Coates and Skrtel rather than going for this player.

Come on Ayer and BR not him.
Disappointing if we sign him.

And on this Suarez I now want him to leave but as long as we get 50M pounds cash upfront. I think its the best option now, his heart is now set on a move. better leave than stay and be disappointed with poor performances. But we should learn from Carroll mistake keep the money and wait rather than panicking out and splash all the money.

Bosco

Fully agree with respect to Alex Pearce. If that is the quality of player we are going for then we won't achieve better than a mid table finish. With Suarez going and the inability of the club to attract big players how can we compete with the big boys. This time next year it may be Coutinho leaving.

So how many games have you watched pierce play this season?
And against how if it was once?

'Don't make up stories, they just report them'! Do you have any regard for the history of this club/city and its relationship with the press? Try telling that statement to the hillsborough survivors and relatives! You are a thoughtless moron.

31 May 2013 16:34:38
Were is brendan hiding?
He usually has a lot to say but hasn't said owt in last few weeks
Suarez needs to go take £40mil cash and move on
Get 10 for carrol and that's 50mil we could sign atleast 3 quality players with that money!

Basy {Ed052's Note - The season has ended, do you expect BR to be at Melwood ready to dismiss every rumour and comment on everything}

31 May 2013 16:31:01
What's the chances of getting Martinez if Suarez leaves {Ed052's Note - very unlikely}

31 May 2013 16:29:39
On a lighter note, have you guys ever thought about this. Ibrahimovic would be the perfect striker for us! He is arguably, the perfect modern day striker who can do absolutely anything. Dribbling, pass-play, 1-2s, headers. Anything in the book, you name it, he's got it. I'm not saying we should get him as it is, quite frankly, not feasible in terms of age and price. How well do all you folks rate him?

KrishnaYNWA

Chutiye do u know anything about football?

Work rate is a big part of Rodgers set up. Has he got that.

31 May 2013 16:25:28
hi edds said last night think he will leave also villa has been looked at to replace him withch will leave plenty of money for am ericksen maybe? just one question to the edds who would u like to see replace him so many clubs after top strikers going to be a tricky one cheers
mike {Ed052's Note - I would like to see who Madrid offer us for Saurez}

Who could they offer who we actually need?
mike {Ed052's Note - A few strikers - Benzema and Higuain are available. They probably wouldn't want to come tho}

Benzema has been asked by management if he is interested. I don't know his answer but I don't think it would be favourable anyway.


Nevada

31 May 2013 16:09:06
Article written by Ed052 on his perspective about The Luis Suarez Saga

31 May 2013 16:07:56
Saw Luis Alberto in the youtube video, the first time i'm seeing him or heard of him. He just reminded me so much of Torres in his playing style like how he sends almost every ball coming his way into the net (apparently as it is his goals compilation, but still). How good is his conversion rate Ed019?

KrishnaYNWA {Ed019's Note - No idea mate sorry. Maybe someone else can help?}

I'll find out and post his stats soon. I've developed a flair for statistical analysis since joining this site.

Nevada

I've posted his stats for the year, just search for any posts made by me.

31 May 2013 16:05:55
Hi eds, have we any targets lined up to replace Suarez? Like anyone if real quality and could fit in and play straight away. If so could you please list them. Thanks in advance! {Ed052's Note - We've answered this already}

31 May 2013 16:04:22
If Suarez leaves (Which is looking more likely by the day) my only concern is that we don't replace him with a top quality striker.

We all talk about the quality strikers that have been here over the last two decades and a half; Fowler, Owen, Torres, Suarez, Rush, Dalglish etc. And we all take for granted that we will indeed get a top drawer replacement based on this.

But we've also had a lot of average strikers in our team as well (I am excluding poor ones altogether ie voronin). We've had Collymore, Baros, Cisse, Crouch, Keane etc etc.

My concern is that we don't replace Suarez with a household striker like Soldado, Higuan (Whomever) and end up with 2 - 3 good strikers.

Sturridge, Baros, Cisse et all are 10-15 goals a season strikers, we need to replace Suarez with a 20+ striker.

Thoughts?

SR (StrabaneRed)

Calm down mate. Who was Lukaku, Benteke, or Michu at the start of the season. Scouting will work, Sturidge, 11 in 16 so I have no idea where you get these stats from, you clearly playing to much football manager.

I like the idea of cherry picking the Spanish league this summer. let's see who Rogders brings in, clearly our scouting network is working well.

Sturridge sure is 11 goals per season striker atleast in his first one here. in 12 starts in the league. I believe that overvalue luis suarez. Saying that we lose his 20+ goals per season is rubbish, its not like someone else will start as a striker instead of him and will get 0 goals and assists for 33 games a season. Liverpool allready have great if not even better option as first choice striker in sturridge. Give chance to borini too who is one of the best players of the ball that has played in Liverpool during the last few years. His movement on the pitch is as perfect as sit can be and in 90% of the time he is on the right place in the right time, not his fault for being injured whole season. Aspas is great promise and don't forget he is the left footed shadowrunner we missed for so long on the right wing.
Yesil is 19 years of age now and as soon as he is match fit I can asure you with few matches in the first team for building up confidence you will see why they call him Gerd in Germany young squad.
Add to that the money provided from suarez that can ad much neaded quality behind this players and I am sure in 6 months Liverpool will thank to real madrid or every other club that pull the bucks out as they did with Chelsea.

2nd post down.

I know Sturridge has scored 11 in 16, but is he a 20+ a season striker? I'd love to think so, but we just don't know based on half a season here. (No I don't play Football manager games :0)

My point is that i'd love to see the manager spend the majority of funds received from the Suarez sale invested in someone who has scored 20+ for their respected club (For at least 2 full season).

£30-35m and either Benzema or Higuan wouldn't be a bad deal either imo.

SR (StrabaneRed)

31 May 2013 16:00:56
Suarez is history to me.
"It's not for the money, it's for my family and my image"!
Frickin' hilarious. He must think we're all mugs.
ANFIELDPETE

I don't see the point in getting upset or angry about it mate.

We've all been moaning about the witch hunt the media has had on Suarez, now some of our fans (Through anger) are having there own witch hunt; that is fickle (Not directly aimed at you).

SR (StrabaneRed)

31 May 2013 15:58:36
sick of all the Suarez crap, he should shut his mouth and do what he's paid to do, and paid very well

steve

31 May 2013 15:57:10
Does anyone else really like the players we've acquired or looked at lately? I think Rodgers has a good eye for talent. Coutinho and Sturridge both worked out well. I realize his buys from last summer weren't great but look at them in this way: He was new to the club so 1-he wasn't 100% sure what we needed, takes time to get to know your players, 2-he wanted to bring in a couple guys who had played for him before to help the squad adapt to his style, 3-he had been at Swansea so logically the players he had been scouting while there are a level below the level of players you'd look at while at Liverpool.

So the Allen and Borini signings didn't work out great, but Borini was hurt and Allen probably fits best in the role Gerrard plays for us now. So both guys deserve a shot still.

Since then though Coutinho and Sturridge were tremendous and I really like the signing of Aspas. I love the link to a guy like Muriel. I link to Luis Alberto and Papadopoulos.

I just think Rodgers has a good eye for talent and if we do sell Suarez and end up with a lot of funds to spend we will get quality brought in from it.

31 May 2013 15:56:16
Hi eds. I know as Liverpool fans we all think that we should get between 40-50 mil for Suarez but are clubs really willing to pay that with his antics, what's your thought {Ed019's Note - He is a world class player, there are very few right now. To get a world class player you would have to pay up}

31 May 2013 15:53:23
the problem with Liverpool is that they can't keep their best players!
everytime they are just about to go even further the following season. big name players wanna leave. we have seen it before already with alonso and mascherano and torres or riera

so now suarez (who I personally think is a fool and the most ungrateful player we have ever had). is off to madrid. I mean madrid make out like they are the best team. but look at them in europe over many years. they are hopeless. just lucky the damn city give the club money!
id love to be lfc manager right now to give that dude a piece of my mind. before I either let him rot in the reserves or sell for a minium bargain bucket 50m

lfc need to keep people like sturridge and coutinho now. its imperative!

red lobster {Ed052's Note - We hardly ever lose our top players mate. Suarez granted, but we haven't lost a top play in a few years. Nothing on the scale of Arsenal}

Torres, Masch, Alonso.

Alonso, Mascherano, Torres (granted he was past it) the only other real top player we have is Agger and he almost went. I doubt Gerrard is appealing to clubs at this stage even though he was immense in the second half of the season. We haven't lost them because we don't have them.

GuvTOB

We haven't had top players to loose torres alonso mash now suarez {Ed052's Note - Alonso can be blamed on Rafa. Torres was no longer offering anything to us, and Masha wasn't sorely missed. Players such as Nasri, Fabregas and RVP have been missed for Arsenal}

If you look at all the "top players " we've lost none except Alonso went on to play large roles in successful teams. Most became bit part players and sat on the bench a lot and many got worse after leaving us.

Nevada

We haven' had many top player apart from Gerard and Suarez, possibly anger also, Reina doesn't count as he hasn't been at his best over the last few seasons

31 May 2013 15:47:32
A rough time for the Liverpool fans again! If all that has been said is true regarding Suarez then let's get him out ASAP for as much £ as possible and make sure we re-invest properly!

The clubs statement means very little I'd imagine, near enough the exact same statement was released when Torres put in a request so unfortunately it holds little water for me.

Lets get players out who don't want it, get the players in who do and push on next season, it is possible to improve without Suarez if we purchase correctly, we will have the funds.

I have enjoyed watching and supporting Suarez as much as the next die hard fan but you have to call a spade a spade and accept he is basically whoring himself out for a move, which disappoints me greatly considering how he is worshipped by the fans and has been supported by the club through his misdemeanours.

He is one of the best in the world and would be a loss to any team but I re-iterate if we get our transfers right we can still improve and push on.

Chin up all Reds and let's see who we bring in if and when it all goes down. I hope for swift business and not a drawn out farce leaving us with a day to do business while other clubs are w***ing at the thought of fleecing us.

The A man.

31 May 2013 15:25:02
Suarez will not be leaving Liverpool till next season and only if we don't get a cl place

31 May 2013 15:23:50
Outs:
Downing 8m - always been average for us and hopefully he'll move on at last

Carroll 12m - again another kenny signing who has never lived up to his price tag, hopefully newcastle or west ham will pay up

Spearing 2m - showed he belongs in the championship while on loan

Coates 4m - hasn't really been given a chance, would have liked to see him stay as he's youhg and already an international, if BR does decide to keep then Skrtel should be offloaded

Carragher - retired

Assaidi 2m - again hasn't been given much of a chance, looked quite good when played in the europa league early on, but with all the attacking players we are linked with he'll probably go

Suarez Minimum 40m - hoping he doesn't go as I just don't think we'll be able to replace him with a player of his stature in our current champions league-less situation

Total: 68m

Ins:

Aspas 7m - Done deal, looks a good player from the little iv'e seen, hopefully he proves to be a good buy

Atsu 3m - Cheap due to his contract issues, young, pacey and skillful winger for the future and who provides further depth

Alderwield 8m - Good, solid, international centre back OR De Vrij would be other options

Toure Free - Still can do a job in defense and has great experience

Gonalons 7m - Defensive midfield player who could provide cover for Lucas

Jesus Navas 12m - Very good winger who we have been linked with in the past but home sickness issues got in the way; his name seems to be popping up again hopefully this time something can be done

Muriel 15m - Would replace suarez if he goes, very talented young striker who will no doubt be a top, top player in the future
OR
Jovetivic 30m - We'd really have to splash the cash to land him, but he would really be a ready made replacement for Suarez. Still young but with real quality; would have to fight off many top team for his signature though.

Honda 10m - Nearing the end of his contract and is a real class midifeld who is also very versatile


With these changes, although it would involve a lot of change, I think we'd have really good chance of making champions league. Plenty of quality all across the squad and no over reliance on one single player.

If the Suarez deal falls through, obviously we may have to forget about some of the player I have to forget about Muriel and the owners may have to provide some funding.

Carl

12m for navas?

31 May 2013 15:39:45
statement from Liverpool, luis suarez is not for sale. very clever move we will have a bidding war, I expect psg/Monaco to make a move soon. Madrid wants to pay less and give a player. I gut feeling is that Liverpool only want money and that the club so this coming and has their plan ready.

Unless Madrid start getting the big boys involved.

RedKopite

31 May 2013 15:36:00
when suarez leaves do the eds no if he will have to finish the 6 game ban he has left la liga thanks {Ed052's Note - yes, the ban should be honoured. And no, it wont affect the transfer fee before anyone asks}

31 May 2013 15:32:58
Hi eds so this could actually be a very exciting summer when suarez goes that will give us 40 mill coates, skertel, possible reina and a few fringe plus fsg money that could give us 70mill plus and don't forget the youngsters! Its a good time for suarez to go too with changes at chelsea man u man city etc I don't know what all the fuss is about! Do you think if and hopefully when we sign alberto and aspas we will still by more attacking players? Ajh 316 {Ed052's Note - I doubt Reina will leave anymore. I can see one more attacking player in, IF Suarez goes}

31 May 2013 15:29:37
The balls in our Cort guys, we should be doing what Tottenham are doing with bale, they don't want to sell they know they won't sign anyone as good as him so there saying give us 80m and he's yours! Why can't we do that? Tottenham will replace bale with 3/4 quality players and be even better than they were! Mean while Liverpool sells Suarez for 40m maybe less as reported, we should be saying 60m or he's staying! He's got 4 years left in his contract. All of a sudden real will up there offer to 40m plus a top player. I hope we don't make fools if ourselfs!

31 May 2013 15:17:14
Eds,

Let's assume that Suarez does go to Real or someone else for at least 40MM, maybe up to 50MM. Does that windfall bring into play other forwards we would not have been able to afford prior, such as Lewandowski or Jovetic? Or does the lack of Champions League and salaries still keep that from happening?

Thanks.

Lee in Philly {Ed052's Note - I think we will have to see if we get a player back in a Suarez deal. And then we will have to see when in the transfer window we are, and who has already moved before making such suggestions}

Hey ed052 do you think we will get a player in the Suarez deal, if so a younger player like callejon or a big, high calibre player like benzema, higuain {Ed052's Note - I certainly think a playe and cash deal is a possibility. I fear though that players we would like wouldn't want to join, and others offered may just not be good enough}

31 May 2013 15:15:52
If Suarez is to leave then so be it, I know a lot of fans (including myself) will be sad to see him go but if the money is re-invested wisely then Lpool will be a stronger team, my options would be to sign Eriksen as he is going to be quality in the midfield and also would put in a cheeky bid for Tevez to fill Suarez boots, what you guys think
Thanks
Bob

Tevez is an excellent player but he comes with a lot of package too. I know it is really unlikely but I would be really happy if we get Dzeko as replacement for Suarez.

31 May 2013 14:15:34
I'm going to get slated for this, but why would Suarez stay? Because he loves the club? Because he loves the fans? Come on now. He is a professional, its his job. Put it this way. You are playing for Boca Juniors, but Sao Paulo offer to double your wages and give you a better chance of winning the Copa Libertadores. Would you leave? You would at least think about it.

He is a fantastic player, I love watching him play and it would be fantastic if he stayed (as my name suggests), but I'm not going to be crying my eyes out if he leaves.

El Pi**edolero

I totally agree with you.

If we do end up selling him then we should spend the money wisely. Last year we ended up spending over the margin price for some of the players which we should not do this year.

31 May 2013 14:16:12
Suarez will leave that's the fact! but do u guys think BR will spend a lot of money on 1 player to replace or is he happy with Cout and Sturr? And will they save the money or try to strenghten the defense?



YNWA

Brendan wants all of the transfers brought in early. I have a real bad feeling we will see the likes of Carragher, Skertel, Luis, Downing, Carroll etc go with more mediocrity like Aspas and Alberto joining. Sparky.

31 May 2013 14:08:04
£30 million and Ozil, Mario Gomez, Eriksen and Marco Reus to come in! {Ed019's Note - Never going to happen. This is not Fifa unfortunately}

With 30m we would be lucky to get 2 of those players.

Ozil is worth more than Suarez IMO.

Ted

31 May 2013 14:07:02
Can't bloody believe it after all Kenny and LFC did for Suarez, he's now going to force his way out.

Completely agree mate. We stood by him and the clubs reputation got tainted by it. But if he wants to go let him go and let's get loyal players in.

SA

He did the same at Ajax

31 May 2013 14:04:48
Hello Eds,
what is with this Alex Pearce rumours again?
I tell you one thing a lot of LFC fans were happy with the Toure signing because they thought another top CB will be signing like PAPA (the greek)
But if our great CB signing is Alex Pearce we are well and truly ****ed.

It is BR's Modus Operandi to have players around him who he has worked with previously. Mediocrity is his culture.

31 May 2013 14:00:11
I'm reading on twitter, people having a go at the owners because Suarez (reportedly) wants to leave. Can somebody tell me why the owners are being moaned at for it?

I love Suarez, he is a top player, but he has a problem with his attitude. I don't think that the media have been entirely fair to him on occasions, for instance the Mansfield game (what player wouldn't carry on and score). But he hasn't helped himself either why would you bite another player?

I said it with Torres, if a player wants to leave, I cannot see the point in making them stay. If it is true that Suarez wants to go, I say cash in now get as much as we can, no player + cash sales, all cash and get players in that want to be here.

SA

31 May 2013 13:59:31
More tweets from tv' Paul Kelso on what Liverpool striker Luis Suarez is reported to have said.

"Because of the paparazzi I could not go in my garden, I could not go to the supermarket"

"The straw that broke the camel's back was my mistake"

tv' Paul Kelso has tweeted more quotes Luis Suarez is reported to have said.

He tweeted Suarez said: "It is a difficult moment for me, my coach and my colleagues know that they [think he means media] didn't treat me well.

"My reason for leaving is my family & my image, I don't feel comfortable here any more. "

31 May 2013 15:08:25
It is highly unlikely but rather than Benzama and Higuain I would really like if Eden Dzeko would move to Liverpool.

I seems better in terms of adaptation and all that. But there would be wage problems and I don't see any of those three coming in for Luis. I expect a real pacy striker to come in.

KrishnaYNWA

31 May 2013 15:07:35
These are most likely yesterday's quotes. He's in Uruguay so I doubt he's decided to have a press conference over a bit of breakfast.

GuvTOB

31 May 2013 15:06:16
Look, suarez leaves, we get close to 50 million and. we fix our clubs damaged image by him.
We could buy a top class finisher and top class winger. Liverpool will have a far superior first 11 and squad than last year. Look at the positives lads

31 May 2013 15:02:13
with suarez lookin to try get out the club and with us having no CL or europa it will b difficult to attract players ma opinion would be go get the best youngsters a lukaku benteke wouldn't b all bad. no point keeping suarez if he doesn't want to b here

Northern Deano

31 May 2013 14:57:36
I have a feeling that Suarez knows the club has decided to cash in on him, hence the media forray.

For me Suarez is great, but I will gladly sell if I have 50mEuros in my kitty.

We need to think like bussines men and not entirely as fans, that's why fans don't run football clubs.

Luis Muirel and Heun Ming Son for me can be bought for less than same amount (50m) and will have some money left in the bank.

Luis want to go, the Club too has decided to allow him to go and is aggresively preparing for his exit.

Expect one suprise signing, out of the blues.


Wales

31 May 2013 14:37:50
Real Madrid cannot afford Bale (60m+) and Suarez (40+), so they will do a player swap deal, Hguain VS Benzema:

Higuain (Real Madrid ) 25yrs Dec 87
265app 121goals 45assists

Benzema (Real Madrid) 25yrs Dec 87
182app 86goals 48assists

They are very similar players: Bothe 6ft and both the same age, but I would pick Higuain as he has better finishing. {Ed019's Note - I doubt either will want a move to Liverpool}

Wouldn't Benzema have the better finishing based on those stats?

31 May 2013 14:32:04
hi eds what do u make of the pics in dailymail of alex pearce (reading CB) with ian ayre on a nightout? potential signing this summer?

wafa {Ed019's Note - Hopefully not}

I think Rodgers is playing it too smart with this one. I think Rodgers wants to sell Skrtel (he doesn't play) as Agger hasn't had a knock and bring in Pearce as a free replacement, whilst Pearce isn't as good, he won't play much anyway. I don't like the seemingly risky corner cutting that it seems to be. Mind you everything could change if a massive injection of money is dripped into the club from Suarez's inevitable scuttling off to Madrid.

31 May 2013 14:21:12
I understand how he may feel victimized at times.
But after everything he has done to our club what a way to reward the club and fans who through it all stood by him.
Great player, not a great guy.

31 May 2013 14:16:45
Hi eds, can I ask your opinion on what u think the club is going to do in the Suarez saga, obviously he's 90% gone, so can u see these reports of 20m+ callejon true? That has to be seen by the club as a noway in my eyes. Do u think they will get 40m+? {Ed019's Note - I think we will get in excess of £40M for him. Maybe even £50M}

31 May 2013 13:48:19
Eds,
If/When Suarez is sold do you think the club will bring in a more expensive strikers or a few decent strikers?
Thanks {Ed019's Note - I would have thought they will try to bring in a few players. It is hard to say}

31 May 2013 14:53:47
Bored of Luis

Move on - sign Messi {Ed052's Note - Some POSITIVITY!!!}

31 May 2013 14:44:33
Now that Suarez is as good as gone, who is everybody hoping we get as a replacement?

31 May 2013 14:42:17
I hope the Suarez deal gets done nice and quick (although I highly doubt it)
Wouldn't it be great to just say to Madrid. You can have him, the price is 50m and you have a week to make up your mind so we have enough time to replace him. After that we don't sell.
Worst case scenario is he gets sold in the final hour, we have to sell him for a little less because of this and we are cash rich but with 60 minutes to spend it.

MIKEY

31 May 2013 14:39:53
Why did BR, Ayre and Werner all come out and publicly say Suarez is not for sale and happy when the man himself says the club knows how he feels and wants to do?

Mixed messages. they would have been better not saying anything like with the stadium.

31 May 2013 13:22:58
Hi eds don't tend to ask many questions but I have looked in to all the previous posts a can't find the info I am looking for which is about Luis Alberto. Have we signed him pretty much or is there a long way to go? or are we even interested in the player? Cheers.

Deanalfie {Ed019's Note - We have merely agreed a fee. Lots to do yet}

31 May 2013 13:07:16
Hey eds, I like the sound of this clement grenier fella, how good is he and have we shown interest?

Anonymous woolback {Ed019's Note - He's decent, but we haven't made a bid}

31 May 2013 12:37:49
Any chance of Willian Jose in the Brazil league? {Ed019's Note - Don't think so}

31 May 2013 14:30:32
Is Suarez actually quoted as too saying he wants to leave? Will he definately leave? {Ed052's Note - YEs, almost certainly IMO}

31 May 2013 14:26:21
Hi, with the capture of toure and looks more likely that alex peice is coming as he's been spotted with ayre, do you think there is a chance skirtle is staying now?, with agger, skirtle, toure and pierce would that mean only coates going out on loan or being sold, as we won't really need any more center backs {Ed052's Note - Skrtel will almost certainly go}

31 May 2013 14:21:19
Hello Fellow Kopites,
so it looks like Suarez is off. But its not all doom and gloom if we replace him efficiently like BVB are trying to do with Goetze.
Supposing our first 3 signings Aspas, Toure and Alberto are from owners money for say 15 million pounds in total here is what we need to do in order to make it a top window.
OUTS
Carroll, Assaidi, Suarez, Downing, Spearing, Shelvey, Pacheco, Coates, Skrtel, CARRA.

INS
TOURE, ASPAS, ALBERTO, Muriel, Lamela, McCarthy, PAPA, Illori, Digne, Atsu.

31 May 2013 13:46:00
One thing is for sure we won't be able to replace Suarez with a player anywhere near as good with no CL or European football.

FSG may well look to keep the money they receive to cover there losses as its been documented about the financial pressure on them.

Boroni will need to step up and show us why BR thought so highly of him.

It's sad to think we are no longer an attractive club to the top players who would rather leave us, Torres, Masch, Alonso. {Ed052's Note - FSG will reinvest the money, as well of more of their own money.}

31 May 2013 13:44:59
Well who ever givin the eds info on suarez stayin was well of he just said the club no I want to leave. An just slated his team mates and manger {Ed052's Note - No Ed has ever said Suarez will stay, based on info TBH. I thought he would leave, Ed002 though he should leave, 001 cannot see the correct offer for us to let him go and 019 believed in their own opinion that he would stay. We've all acknowledged that there will be offers and interest}

31 May 2013 13:42:03
Now that Suarez has stated he wants to leave I think the board should put a statement out saying his price is £50 mill plus & not a penny less once this price has been met then he can speak to any club that meets that valuation. I think the board need to make their stance clear & simple. Put up or shut up & if no club meets the price then as Suarez said he is under contract & that is that!

31 May 2013 13:38:06
After the loyalty we've shown to him for the last couple of years, he could at least stay for 1 more year. I know the media are to blame for driving him out but if he does go then we've got no one and not even a great price for him. I hope he stays but at the end of the day it's not really about 'a change of environment' but it's about the amount on his paycheck. {Ed052's Note - I'm not sure it all is mate. He wants to play in the Champions League and doesn't like how he is treated here. Yes, it was his fault, but he isn't moving due to money IMO}

31 May 2013 13:47:32
I have bit my tongue now for a while on the Luis Suarez stuff but I cannot hold it any longer. I have just watched the interview he did on SLY sports news. Now if they have taking it out of context ill hold my hands up and say sorry but for him to say he has had no support. It is all his own doing the diving the biting the "racial abuse" he was doing the same at Ajax. when we bought him I though he's in new country new start we bought a great player to help achieve a top four finish. but with the diving at it made me mad this is not what a Liverpool player is I stuck by him when I was getting slated by friends saying glad he is not on our team but when he turns it on he is one of the best around it makes me so mad the stuff he has said we have all supported him not just in the ground but in day to day life defending the diving some of it can't be but its all his own doing in my eyes

31 May 2013 13:34:39
Now Suarez has come out & publicly stated he wants to leave I think the board should realease a statement saying his price is 50mill + any team that meets this price can speak to him but won't be accepting a penny less than that!

31 May 2013 13:30:56
Luis Suarez, I get you're unhappy with how the press treat you, I understand that because British media is disgusting, always favouring home grown players. But what I can't accept is saying your image is being ruined, I don't care about the evra thing, as it was all hear say. But admitting to diving, biting a player twice, and the s*** you spout every summer in the press, is all your own fault. After sticking with him through thick an thin, kenny losing his Job because of him even, I'm pissed off with his words last night. I think most lfc fans are happy for him to go, at least 50m, however he can stay if that's not met. Massive respect for Brendan Rodgers and fsg. I believe Rodgers is the best coach in the country. Liverpool have played the best football this year, just need to sure up the defence and I think top 4 is available. Kolo, Aspas and Alberto all on their way already. No player bigger than any club. Good riddance. Rant over.

31 May 2013 13:25:31
tv :Luis Suarez confirms he wants to leave Liverpool.

31 May 2013 12:55:14
so suarez saying the opposite to his agent. i'd say let's sell him get mony to regroup again. his heart is no longer with us and the amount of shi** he has caused has everyone hating us. look at the stats guys without him in team we win more games fact. great player no doubt. then I hear we signed some guy from spain lagos for 7.7m. what is going on mr rodgers

31 May 2013 13:25:00
NUFC fan in peace.

Just heard the Suarez interview and you should just let him go - better still, drive him to the bloody airport.

Never seen such a big huffy baby playing professional football. Boohoo, everyone hates me, waaaa the press persecute me. He's banned from playing (for being a dick. again) so he's taking his ball home and tripping over his bottom lip.

You'll sign someone better and more professional with the ~£35-40million that you'll get for him.

DomW

31 May 2013 13:21:38
Suarez is off.

31 May 2013 13:18:06
Just seen the headlines about suerez leaving and know doubt there will be an influx of posters but it's not a surprise I was on here a while ago saying he's trying to engineer a move and use the press as an excuse, he had the biting ban and left ajax, but I'm totally disgusted but not surprised by football players in general by his actions, it's pathetic he has blamed the press for hounded him, when he's the one to give them amunition the club and managers and fans have backed him to the hilt and with this and he's shafted us, it feels like Torres situation all over again

31 May 2013 13:13:04
Such a selfish thing to do. That comment will dramatically reduce his price.
So angry now, always supported him and he just throws it back at us.

31 May 2013 13:09:48
now tht he has said he wants to leave can we all just move on and hope the club gets the best deal possible for him so we can reinvest on the types of players that are going to move us forward. Great player but carried more baggage than the queen mary 2.

31 May 2013 13:02:12
tv saying suarez has made a plea to go. wait and see then eh

31 May 2013 13:00:57
good riddance. great player but I can't stand the type of person who is capable of biting someone.

31 May 2013 12:58:58
The only thing i'm going to say on the Suarez saga is that we are Liverpool FC not the suarez show! If he wants to go then thank you for the memories Luis but we have replaced top strikers previously and we will you.

31 May 2013 12:41:27
Last year Arsenal sold their 1 starlet and heart of their team, and didn't replace him with a "world class" player. Cazorla, Giroud and Podolski filled the void left and showed that a group of extremely talented players can replace one star.

Surely replacing Suarez and increasing the quality of the team would be better. Improving the Wings from Downing to someone else, as well as the defence and also increase the depth so we can have an impact from the bench

31 May 2013 12:36:42
If Suarez goes which foward will we go for? For some reason everytime we sell our best striker we seem to find another world class striker.

31 May 2013 12:27:32
We actually play better without Suarez

31 May 2013 12:25:19
I remember when Sterling was doing step overs against Toure and how on here posts saying that Sterling made a show of a world class defender. As soon as we sign said defender then he is no longer world class or even a good signing on a free. Fickle fans haha!
Scouse_Pride

31 May 2013 12:01:36
How I see it is.

FSG and co all along didn't really want Suarez, as a result of all the bad publicity he bought to the club but they are business men and know at this time he is their biggest asset. This is why the club have publically backed him and supported him so not to drive his value down. If a club got a sniff that FSG didn't want him they would come in with silly offers, like tottenham did for Robbie Keen.

The deal we have with Warrior is not based on units of shirts sold so unlike Madrid there is no value in keeping him for shirt sales and external revenue.

I know any press is seen as good press but this constant media hounding is having a negative effect on the team, other players constantly being asked questions about him etc. I can't remember how many times Johnson got interviewed after the Evra incident. These such things loose focus.

I wouldn't be suprised if FSG and LFC knew that sooner or later in an interview he would slip up, they could easily send a representative with him but didnt. This is why his agent suddenly made a statement as he knows that because Suarez has mentioned only Madrid that it will put off the likes of City and Chelsea putting in bids lowering the price and ultimately his commissions!

The only way I can describe him is as selfish and someone that isn't a team player, its best if he goes.

I think Brendan knows he's going and behind the scenes they are preparing for it.

I am a fan of Suarez and love to watch him play purely for the fact of not knowing what's next but nevertheless the team is unbalanced with him and slows our play down as he keeps the ball and we don't have that free flowing passing that Brendan is trying to develop.

Just because you have a high scorer doesn't mean you will win things, look at Villa had a high scorer but only just avoided relegation. We had top scorers in owen, he left we won the Champions League. Torres, we didn't win anything, he left and with Andy Carrol and a banned Suarez we made two finals and won a cup.

We will be just fine without him and I for one am excited for the season ahead and will be relieved when all this will he or won't he stops.

31 May 2013 11:51:04
Some people on this site seem to be exaggerating Suarez's importance to our club. Yes, he is a fantastic player and one of the best in the premier league. But don't forget he has put the club into embarrassing situations a number of times. His shots taken to goals ratio ain't great, and he wants out. So why don't all of us as a part of this great club just move on? Players come and go, but LFC will live on forever.

31 May 2013 14:27:58
He's the kind of player others want to play with, rather than against. He's an attractive selling point, when it comes to signing other players. Come and play alongside one of the world's best.
Without a manager with a worldwide repute, and also lacking the bait of Champions League football, it could be argued that the club needs all the selling points it can get right now.
The club's name is still a gold standard, but aside from Gerrard, Suarez is the one big name. With Carragher retiring and Reina possibly moving back to Barcelona, Liverpool will have few household names left which won't attract the world best.

Sturrige injured. For few months. Borini gets injured every 3rd match he plays. Overall, we have only maybe 3 or 4 players that are not injury prone.

Henderson, Johnson, maybe Agger. And Suarez.

Now in case this happens again, that half of the team are injured, and the reserves + a couple first squad players have to go and get the points. Who will make that difference? Suarez has the power to change the game on his own. Who else? Currently nobody.

31 May 2013 10:48:55
Hello, Ed's.
Could you please mark the following out of 10, in likelihood to join Liverpool?
Begovic, Vorm, Papadopoulos, Ilori, Digne, Strootman, Aspas and Atsu? Thank-you! {Ed001's Note - sorry I am not doing that.}

31 May 2013 11:43:21
£20 mil + Callejon and £60 mil for bale: Is Real taking the piss, Callejon is a mediocre player, I would not allow him to replace Suarez and paying almost triple for Bale (imo they are the same if Suarez not higher), My thoughts would be £25mil-£30mil+ Higuain, Sound good?

Well said Suarez is worth more than Bale, i'd take £30M plus Higuain.

Suarez better than Bale? No chance mate. Bale is on his way to being one of the best. Suarez is an excellent player but I think Bale will just get even better.

31 May 2013 13:44:51
Higuain has other clubs.
real madrid can't push a player to join a club.
if so, caroll would have been a west ham player by now

31 May 2013 13:46:44
No player of Higua�n's calibre would want to join LFC anyway. If you're expecting players like Higua�n/Di Maria/�zil in return then you are truly mistaken nobody of that category would want join LFC instead you guts could expect people like Morata/Callej�n in return
I'm sorry to break it to you but most of you are in cuckoo land

Every time Real makes a rubbish bid we should up our price for Suarez by 10m. I'm sick of other clubs taking advantage of us

I'd take that deal but higain wouldn't.

Nevada

31 May 2013 08:44:32
ed if suarez was to go who would you like to see replace him. also do we or anyone else have interest in the icelandic player for Ajax Kolbeinn Sigborrison (spelling). seems a good player from what I've seen and young.

31 May 2013 11:26:46
just look at these pages. the difference from three days ago and now. all of a sudden suarez is a disgrace he's this he's that. no wonder the press act up he gets quoted and the fans all erupt like a shed of scared turkeys. and stop lying to yourselves we never looked strong without suarez. ul say the newcastle game. fair enough if that covers us in your eyes. if we wants out. let em off. but don't slate em to bits. its cheap. especially since all of yous were grabbing sky when he scored all them goals screaming his name and I dare not put a figure on how many of yous have his name on your jersey. YNWATILL YOU LEAVE. that's not right. i'd love him to stay and help out in getting a very overdue prem league winners medal for stevie g before he hangs the boots.

31 May 2013 12:59:46
Yeah right, mate we supported him beyond limits, we got abused for it, ed002 got abused for trying to tell people how suarez was, we didn't believe the press about the clubs, we believed his words and supported him and the club did what they can to keep him happy, I truley wanted him to stay and believed he was comitted, but it's all lies and he is everything we said he is not! He will do whatever to get his way and force a move, bite players (ajax+Liverpool) or take his club to court or go on strike (gronigen+nactional). we were just blinded because we love Liverpool so much and he was helping us! I for one stopped chearing for him a long time ago when he never stopped talking about a move whenever he was away from the club! Maybe people disagree but I think and hope we will be just fine without him! We play more like a team whenever he is out and no am not basing this on the last 4 games but also the games from last season where we beat city, chelsea, united without suarez! it will be alright!

My thought exactly

If you can't grasp that many fans considered his saving grace in their eyes to be 'he loves the club and really wants to fight for us', and are now finally admitting as a person he is an utter disgrace without a single scrap of decency or loyalty to build on, I don't really know what could be said to you. So many fans loved him and when he let them down in the heat of the moment, they forgave and supported him. Now they have a knife twisted in their back for that support. They have the right to be angry, especially because he didn't even have the decency to come in to Liverpool and hand in a transfer request - he did it all by leaking and vague media comments