Liverpool Banter Archive April 03 2011

 

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03 Apr 2011 23:50:59
All this talk of Charlie Adam, Ashley Young and other mediocre players such as Marveux etc, is really just showing that we have accepted that we are no longer one of the "big four".

If we don't sign WORLD CLASS players then our sorry state of affairs on the pitch will continue.

We don't need three year plans, we just need this summer and we SHOULD NOT cut any corners by signing any of the above mentioned players or any other average joe.

We need to take the tranfer market by storm in the summer if we have any hope of sercuring CL football next season because no doubt City, Spurs, Chelski and the Mancs will all invest heavily in the summer.

Come on the Red Men. {Ed001's Note - your plan has worked so well for City and Madrid hasn't it? It is not about buying big names, it is about buying the right players for the system you want to play. We cleaned up in Europe with players that were by no means big names, until they signed for us. We MAKE big stars not buy them.}
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City = 3rd in league at moment
Madrid = 2nd behind best team in the world

so yes it does seem to be working, do you really see Adam and Young helping us win the league. . oh and Carroll will last two years at most at LFC before he is sold at a cut price. . another mistake we made there then {Ed001's Note - City are third in the league behind two teams whose team is worth a hell of a lot less than theirs, so no that isn't working. If you were right they would be light years ahead of the rest of the EPL. Madrid are second behind the best team on the planet that just happens to consist of almost entirely homegrown players with a couple of big signings. The likes of Afellay and Keita are hardly huge star names are they? In fact the only one I can see in their team that is a big star signing is Villa. Yet you want us to be like the team that spends ten times as much to finish second. Wow, great plan, you should be a manager, we would be bankrupt and win nothing, that would be so wonderful, we could be just like Leeds under Ridsdale.}
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City had a complete overhaul which is why it is obviously taking time. lets not forget, they were often fighting relegation battles in the past and were even in lower leagues 10 years ago. We don't need a complete overhaul. . just 3 or four world class players, not the twenty or so that city brought in. If we invest now then we have the chance for a quick turn around, but if we don't then we will fall even further behind the others.

As for keita and Affelly, when do they ever start 3 games in a row? also Barcelona are a club that has been successfull for years as an academy and as a trophy winning club. . haven't all us LFC supporters waited long enough? Or shall we wait another 20 years till our youth system provides us with constant word class talent? Ed, you really are deluded. {Ed001's Note - you have changed your tune, one minute you wanted us to buy a whole raft of big name stars, now it is just a couple of additions we need. I still disagree, we just need the best players to suit the system we intend to play, that doesn't necessarily mean the biggest stars in those positions. I don't see Adam as the right player, but I am not the one who decides the way we play, I have faith that we won't be buying him because of his price. After all there are much bigger names around that would be available for less. So Dalglish must see something in him that he can use and that is good enough for me. Certainly I have more faith in his choice of players than yours.}
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I didn't once say that we need a whole raft of stars, i said that we need to buy world class players, and yes three or four should be enough to breathe success back into the club.

I just think that we have brought too many players at cheaper prices that haven't worked out for us over the last five or so years. one in five players that we have brought have worked out well for us and that just isn't good enough.

If we don't match the ambitions of our present star players then we will lose them aswell. . do you think we should really just settle for adam, young and even carroll? We clearly have money is january is anything to go by, so why don't we just pay a bit more and by world class talent.

Dont get me wrong, i would love to see the next Robbie Fowler or steven Gerrard come through the ranks but its been 14 years since Gerrard broke through and he was the last great player that our academy has produced {Ed001's Note - none of those players you have listed are the ones I would choose, but then very few people would have picked Aldridge and Barnes all those years ago. I think we just need to have a little faith that they are being bought for the right reasons, clearly there is no problem spending money if there is felt to be a need to. But there is no need to spend the money on a big name player for 30m if there is an unknown just as good available at 10m. The problem was with the scouting system in the past, the players being presented to the manager as must haves were clearly not the right ones. Do you not think that the whole team would be transformed purely by adding two wingers, even Riera made a huge difference when he played and he was clearly not top class.}
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Finally its seems that we have reached an agreemenyt ed. . or at least a compromise!

Two class wingers and another alonso would do it for me, but i just wish that we has spend the money on llorente or someone else rather than carroll. with thm four additions i don't see a lot wrong with the team as even the players who may not start as much such as lucas, kuyt etc will up there game knowing that they have to fight for the right to start.

which wingers would you suggest that we have a chance of getting if we were interested?

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 23:51:15
03 Apr 2011 23:37:28
Ed001. As I said, I understand the need to edit posts, particularly offensive ones. I also understand the need to stop inciteful posts - such as Sun discussions - which often lead to raw emotions running high. Its hard to believe however, that my post or Steves were somehow missed, not helped when you say you have no idea about the post by Steve which was pulled, then say a few lines later that you pulled his post - Mine however, was pulled for none of the stated reasons, which is why I was irritated. I have no problem with your policy on editing posts - its editing/ pulling posts that do not break your given reasons that's hard to swallow. It was, I suggest, a case of ed002 being unable to explain or justify his rude and condescending responses and actions and then going on a power-trip, cutting anything that contradicts his views. Perhaps fearing that others would agree how rude this guy (ed002) is - this is rather sad I feel. Being told to 'look elsewhere' for not adhering to, or accepting the editing rules is one thing - but being told this when I have not offended anyone or broken any of the stated rules is another entirely. Your response bore little relevance to my case whilst telling me rather politely 'where to go'. I'll try to focus on the part where you said sorry, (before the disclaimer) just tell ed002 to sort it out - treat people with the same respect he expects to be given him, if someone doesn't have a source or proof stop attacking them, if someone has a link then great - its a 'rumours' site after all. ed002 acts like an authority all onto himself - without any of the proof or sources which he (rudely) demands of others - then claims his abuse & responses are his 'opinion' & therefore acceptable, whereas the 'opinions' of others are always scutinised and dismissed in his inimitable, stuck-up, condescending style - very off-putting to potential posters. I will remain here, if that's okay. I enjoy reading the posts of fellow reds, even the silly ones who think we'll sign messi, benzema and aguero this summer - I want to keep it that way though, not having to think 'should i take the time to write this post? ed002 might not agree and cut it'. I hope you see my point. keep up the good work and keep it clean, posters! (ps. come back, Steve, we can all shake hands - you, ed002 and I. . defeat by Roy seems to have brought out the madness in you).

BJH YNWA {Ed002's Note - Could you please point to these posts where I have asked people "for sources" which I would never do. Also, can you please give details about any posts of "Steve's" that I cut? I am astonished that you are prepared to stay here with my attitude.}

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 23:51:55
Eds - any news on whether Comolli will go after Adel Taraabt of QPR. Comolli got him at spurs and he is on fire right now. . {Ed002's Note - None.}

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 23:50:22
Why do idiots still say after all these years that Stevie G will be sold! !Either your scum or totally stupid! He will finish his career at lfc end of! !As for the manager thing. .jose, is the lack of the contract for KK saying that maybe somthing else is in the pipeline? Not saying it is, just a thought!What do you think Ed?. Pinhead. {Ed001's Note - not a chance of Jose, he has different plans for the next couple of years.}
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I take it he's going to Chelksi after all Ed?

Blair Mayne YNWA

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 23:35:59
Come on the Red Men. {Ed001's Note - your plan has worked so well for City and Madrid hasn't it? It is not about buying big names, it is about buying the right players for the system you want to play. We cleaned up in Europe with players that were by no means big names, until they signed for us. We MAKE big stars not buy them.}

I could not agree any more wholeheartedly. We don't need a team of imported megastars, we need to get players who can do a good job and as part of a team, not 11 individuals.

I would prefer a team that work for each toher thought the individual parts might not be as strong, rather than a bunch of over inflated egos that lead us nowhere.

Red4Ever

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 23:37:28
Ed001. As I said, I understand the need to edit posts, particularly offensive ones. I also understand the need to stop inciteful posts - such as Sun discussions - which often lead to raw emotions running high. Its hard to believe however, that my post or Steves were somehow missed, not helped when you say you have no idea about the post by Steve which was pulled, then say a few lines later that you pulled his post - Mine however, was pulled for none of the stated reasons, which is why I was irritated. I have no problem with your policy on editing posts - its editing/ pulling posts that do not break your given reasons that's hard to swallow. It was, I suggest, a case of ed002 being unable to explain or justify his rude and condescending responses and actions and then going on a power-trip, cutting anything that contradicts his views. Perhaps fearing that others would agree how rude this guy (ed002) is - this is rather sad I feel. Being told to 'look elsewhere' for not adhering to, or accepting the editing rules is one thing - but being told this when I have not offended anyone or broken any of the stated rules is another entirely. Your response bore little relevance to my case whilst telling me rather politely 'where to go'. I'll try to focus on the part where you said sorry, (before the disclaimer) just tell ed002 to sort it out - treat people with the same respect he expects to be given him, if someone doesn't have a source or proof stop attacking them, if someone has a link then great - its a 'rumours' site after all. ed002 acts like an authority all onto himself - without any of the proof or sources which he (rudely) demands of others - then claims his abuse & responses are his 'opinion' & therefore acceptable, whereas the 'opinions' of others are always scutinised and dismissed in his inimitable, stuck-up, condescending style - very off-putting to potential posters. I will remain here, if that's okay. I enjoy reading the posts of fellow reds, even the silly ones who think we'll sign messi, benzema and aguero this summer - I want to keep it that way though, not having to think 'should i take the time to write this post? ed002 might not agree and cut it'. I hope you see my point. keep up the good work and keep it clean, posters! (ps. come back, Steve, we can all shake hands - you, ed002 and I. . defeat by Roy seems to have brought out the madness in you).

BJH YNWA {Ed002's Note - Could you please point to these posts where I have asked people "for sources" which I would never do. Also, can you please give details about any posts of "Steve's" that I cut? I am astonished that you are prepared to stay here with my attitude.}

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 23:41:46
i heard the a comilli target is remy have you heard anything?

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 23:31:43
All this talk of Charlie Adam, Ashley Young and other mediocre players such as Marveux etc, is really just showing that we have accepted that we are no longer one of the "big four".

If we don't sign WORLD CLASS players then our sorry state of affairs on the pitch will continue.

We don't need three year plans, we just need this summer and we SHOULD NOT cut any corners by signing any of the above mentioned players or any other average joe.

We need to take the tranfer market by storm in the summer if we have any hope of sercuring CL football next season because no doubt City, Spurs, Chelski and the Mancs will all invest heavily in the summer.

Come on the Red Men. {Ed001's Note - your plan has worked so well for City and Madrid hasn't it? It is not about buying big names, it is about buying the right players for the system you want to play. We cleaned up in Europe with players that were by no means big names, until they signed for us. We MAKE big stars not buy them.}
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City = 3rd in league at moment
Madrid = 2nd behind best team in the world

so yes it does seem to be working, do you really see Adam and Young helping us win the league. . oh and Carroll will last two years at most at LFC before he is sold at a cut price. . another mistake we made there then {Ed001's Note - City are third in the league behind two teams whose team is worth a hell of a lot less than theirs, so no that isn't working. If you were right they would be light years ahead of the rest of the EPL. Madrid are second behind the best team on the planet that just happens to consist of almost entirely homegrown players with a couple of big signings. The likes of Afellay and Keita are hardly huge star names are they? In fact the only one I can see in their team that is a big star signing is Villa. Yet you want us to be like the team that spends ten times as much to finish second. Wow, great plan, you should be a manager, we would be bankrupt and win nothing, that would be so wonderful, we could be just like Leeds under Ridsdale.}
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City had a complete overhaul which is why it is obviously taking time. lets not forget, they were often fighting relegation battles in the past and were even in lower leagues 10 years ago. We don't need a complete overhaul. . just 3 or four world class players, not the twenty or so that city brought in. If we invest now then we have the chance for a quick turn around, but if we don't then we will fall even further behind the others.

As for keita and Affelly, when do they ever start 3 games in a row? also Barcelona are a club that has been successfull for years as an academy and as a trophy winning club. . haven't all us LFC supporters waited long enough? Or shall we wait another 20 years till our youth system provides us with constant word class talent? Ed, you really are deluded. {Ed001's Note - you have changed your tune, one minute you wanted us to buy a whole raft of big name stars, now it is just a couple of additions we need. I still disagree, we just need the best players to suit the system we intend to play, that doesn't necessarily mean the biggest stars in those positions. I don't see Adam as the right player, but I am not the one who decides the way we play, I have faith that we won't be buying him because of his price. After all there are much bigger names around that would be available for less. So Dalglish must see something in him that he can use and that is good enough for me. Certainly I have more faith in his choice of players than yours.}
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I didn't once say that we need a whole raft of stars, i said that we need to buy world class players, and yes three or four should be enough to breathe success back into the club.

I just think that we have brought too many players at cheaper prices that haven't worked out for us over the last five or so years. one in five players that we have brought have worked out well for us and that just isn't good enough.

If we don't match the ambitions of our present star players then we will lose them aswell. . do you think we should really just settle for adam, young and even carroll? We clearly have money is january is anything to go by, so why don't we just pay a bit more and by world class talent.

Dont get me wrong, i would love to see the next Robbie Fowler or steven Gerrard come through the ranks but its been 14 years since Gerrard broke through and he was the last great player that our academy has produced {Ed001's Note - none of those players you have listed are the ones I would choose, but then very few people would have picked Aldridge and Barnes all those years ago. I think we just need to have a little faith that they are being bought for the right reasons, clearly there is no problem spending money if there is felt to be a need to. But there is no need to spend the money on a big name player for 30m if there is an unknown just as good available at 10m. The problem was with the scouting system in the past, the players being presented to the manager as must haves were clearly not the right ones. Do you not think that the whole team would be transformed purely by adding two wingers, even Riera made a huge difference when he played and he was clearly not top class.}

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 23:32:56
Hodgson was blamed because there were far too many bad performances than good ones, and in particular the away formation and tactics were so defensive, even against the teams that we as Liverpool (top 6 or 7 club) should be aiming to take 3 points from.
Under Dalglish in the premiership we only had 2 bad outings, against westham and yesterday, and I/ and others did post that Kenny did get it wrong, and about not playing Raul in middle or trying 433 without Gerrard, and about his lack of European experience.
As for Kenny long-term, I agree with you and I think the owners do to, but not sure if they'll stick or bow to the fans pressure.I certainly see no harm of having him for the next 2 years while we rebuild , but I also understand and agree with the idea of rebuilding under a younger manager for the next 10 years . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
sorry you said only 2 bad outings westham and west brom what about blackpool wigan in prem and all the european games he s managed i love the king and hope he turns us around we will have to wait to see. who go s and who stays at the end of the season but i think some of his tactics have been wrong. . . . our may be its just the players he s been left. just arnt good enough . . . . . joe the red

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 23:23:59
Why do idiots still say after all these years that Stevie G will be sold! !Either your scum or totally stupid! He will finish his career at lfc end of! !As for the manager thing. .jose, is the lack of the contract for KK saying that maybe somthing else is in the pipeline?? Not saying it is, just a thought!What do you think Ed?. Pinhead. {Ed001's Note - not a chance of Jose, he has different plans for the next couple of years.}

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 23:19:48
At the moment LFC will find it difficult to attract some of the big names the summer.

However some players are still attracted to join LFC. Here are these players:

Scott Dann
Leightain Baines
Adam Johnson
Arda Turan
Conor Wickham

All these players will fill problem areas for LFC and there is a reasonably good chance they will join Liverpool.

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 23:13:13
All this talk of Charlie Adam, Ashley Young and other mediocre players such as Marveux etc, is really just showing that we have accepted that we are no longer one of the "big four".

If we don't sign WORLD CLASS players then our sorry state of affairs on the pitch will continue.

We don't need three year plans, we just need this summer and we SHOULD NOT cut any corners by signing any of the above mentioned players or any other average joe.

We need to take the tranfer market by storm in the summer if we have any hope of sercuring CL football next season because no doubt City, Spurs, Chelski and the Mancs will all invest heavily in the summer.

Come on the Red Men. {Ed001's Note - your plan has worked so well for City and Madrid hasn't it? It is not about buying big names, it is about buying the right players for the system you want to play. We cleaned up in Europe with players that were by no means big names, until they signed for us. We MAKE big stars not buy them.}
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City = 3rd in league at moment
Madrid = 2nd behind best team in the world

so yes it does seem to be working, do you really see Adam and Young helping us win the league. . oh and Carroll will last two years at most at LFC before he is sold at a cut price. . another mistake we made there then {Ed001's Note - City are third in the league behind two teams whose team is worth a hell of a lot less than theirs, so no that isn't working. If you were right they would be light years ahead of the rest of the EPL. Madrid are second behind the best team on the planet that just happens to consist of almost entirely homegrown players with a couple of big signings. The likes of Afellay and Keita are hardly huge star names are they? In fact the only one I can see in their team that is a big star signing is Villa. Yet you want us to be like the team that spends ten times as much to finish second. Wow, great plan, you should be a manager, we would be bankrupt and win nothing, that would be so wonderful, we could be just like Leeds under Ridsdale.}
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City had a complete overhaul which is why it is obviously taking time. lets not forget, they were often fighting relegation battles in the past and were even in lower leagues 10 years ago. We don't need a complete overhaul. . just 3 or four world class players, not the twenty or so that city brought in. If we invest now then we have the chance for a quick turn around, but if we don't then we will fall even further behind the others.

As for keita and Affelly, when do they ever start 3 games in a row? also Barcelona are a club that has been successfull for years as an academy and as a trophy winning club. . haven't all us LFC supporters waited long enough? Or shall we wait another 20 years till our youth system provides us with constant word class talent? Ed, you really are deluded. {Ed001's Note - you have changed your tune, one minute you wanted us to buy a whole raft of big name stars, now it is just a couple of additions we need. I still disagree, we just need the best players to suit the system we intend to play, that doesn't necessarily mean the biggest stars in those positions. I don't see Adam as the right player, but I am not the one who decides the way we play, I have faith that we won't be buying him because of his price. After all there are much bigger names around that would be available for less. So Dalglish must see something in him that he can use and that is good enough for me. Certainly I have more faith in his choice of players than yours.}

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 22:59:04
We have so much work to do, we gotta stop rolling over when average to poor team equalise! It seems like we accept defeat to easily! Need more guys giving the effort that Saurez puts in. Pitty more don't have a football brain like he does. He is a cracking player and without the likes of Stevie G, Glen J, Kelly and Agger I think we have problems. Our bench is proving hopeless this year! Not enough cover for injuries and can't put together a full strength team when we really need it. Our bench players need to be good enough to take on the weaker teams in the EPL to ease the load on the top guys! Sadly not the case.

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 22:45:14
All this talk of Charlie Adam, Ashley Young and other mediocre players such as Marveux etc, is really just showing that we have accepted that we are no longer one of the "big four".

If we don't sign WORLD CLASS players then our sorry state of affairs on the pitch will continue.

We don't need three year plans, we just need this summer and we SHOULD NOT cut any corners by signing any of the above mentioned players or any other average joe.

We need to take the tranfer market by storm in the summer if we have any hope of sercuring CL football next season because no doubt City, Spurs, Chelski and the Mancs will all invest heavily in the summer.

Come on the Red Men. {Ed001's Note - your plan has worked so well for City and Madrid hasn't it? It is not about buying big names, it is about buying the right players for the system you want to play. We cleaned up in Europe with players that were by no means big names, until they signed for us. We MAKE big stars not buy them.}
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City = 3rd in league at moment
Madrid = 2nd behind best team in the world

so yes it does seem to be working, do you really see Adam and Young helping us win the league. . oh and Carroll will last two years at most at LFC before he is sold at a cut price. . another mistake we made there then {Ed001's Note - City are third in the league behind two teams whose team is worth a hell of a lot less than theirs, so no that isn't working. If you were right they would be light years ahead of the rest of the EPL. Madrid are second behind the best team on the planet that just happens to consist of almost entirely homegrown players with a couple of big signings. The likes of Afellay and Keita are hardly huge star names are they? In fact the only one I can see in their team that is a big star signing is Villa. Yet you want us to be like the team that spends ten times as much to finish second. Wow, great plan, you should be a manager, we would be bankrupt and win nothing, that would be so wonderful, we could be just like Leeds under Ridsdale.}

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 22:46:27
So then its not a rumour but a widh list?
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03 Apr 2011 22:11:02
Adams, Marveux (spelling), Dann, Turan, Taiwo, Cavani and Honda will all join. I'm not in the know or what have you, but these players fill the holes in our squad. We'll sell poulsen, konchesky, jones, maxi, cole, kyriagkos, ngog and unfourtanetly Stevie G, with a loan here or there
subs; Lucas, Aurellio, Meriles, Gulasci, Carra, Jonjo, Dirk, Suso, and Some other youngsters getting their shots.

Reina
Johnson Kelly/ Dann Agger/ Skertl Taiwo
Honda Adams Marveux/ Turan
Cavani Carroll Suarez

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 22:49:15
Guys too many plan for too many players. I think we have so many good young talent. Suso, Rahem, Tom Ayala, Pesacho all of them can play for 1st team. we may eed 3/ 4 player LB, CM, CD a Striker, with the young talent just mention gona be great. agrred?

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 22:52:29
Come on the Red Men. {Ed001's Note - your plan has worked so well for City and Madrid hasn't it? It is not about buying big names, it is about buying the right players for the system you want to play. We cleaned up in Europe with players that were by no means big names, until they signed for us. We MAKE big stars not buy them.}

Maybe that's why we haven't won the premier league for 20 years? We need to start buying some world class players, some quality players and let a few youth players have a chance. {Ed001's Note - but we stopped making stars 20 years ago when Souness took over and tried to buy the league.}

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 22:37:40
Regarding the Steve Parker thing.
I like his writing too, I think its bad when the eds cut out writing that people spend their spare time on, they are the lifeblood of the site - I sent a post a few days back telling ed 002 that he should address the scathing and condescending manner of his replies to some posters, primarily when he demands proof & sources for all statements whilst providing none himself, rubbishing the claims of all others with blatant double standards - people who just want a chat with fellow reds. This post was also pulled, just like Steve. Its the first time it happened me on this site. I like this site 'cos they post everything, at least that's what I thought. I didn't use abusive language, as I am not doing now, its understandable to remove it if I was going overboard. I just wanted an explanation - as I'm sure many other people will. Makes me wonder just how many stories are being pulled out? Please post this message. I mean no offense - I love the site & post myself at times, but examples such as this make the site more about the eds than the fans interacting, particularly when some seem bent on a powertrip. Sort out abusive, racist sectarian abuse - swearwords too if they're too extreme, but don't decide what people should read. I think ed002 may have disliked, or indeed have feared how many people would have agreed with my post. People disagree all the time, it seems petty for eds to be pulling posts that have genuine greviances. Please post this message, it took time to write and is not abusive. We can all talk like grown ups, no need to get abusive. Thanks, & sort it out guys!

BJH YNWA (Justice for the Steve Parker One!) {Ed001's Note - actually Ed002 never deleted or ignored either post. In fact as far as we can find out no one has seen the post that is supposed to be missing, nor has any clue what he is on about. By the way there is a very good reason for editing the posts, more than just abusive content. For one we have to spend a lot more time editing than you do writing in, sometimes we have to nip things in the bud before they get out of hand by leaving out a post. Such as when Steve was on his crusade to try and get the S*n accepted as decent reading material for Liverpool fans. If left to just be posted it would lead to nothing but abuse and bickering with no worthwhile discussion to be had. If you don't like the way the site is edited that is your prerogative, but, I am sorry to say, it is not going to change. If you can't accept that then you are free to look elsewhere for a site that is more to your liking or create your own. I am sorry that you felt the need to complain but you have no idea of the kind of rubbish we have to sift through to know why we have to pre-edit every post. I would much rather not bother, it takes up a lot of my time that could be spent enjoying myself instead of sifting through abusive posts all day.}

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 22:32:14
Adams, Marveux (spelling), Dann, Turan, Taiwo, Cavani and Honda will all join. I'm not in the know or what have you, but these players fill the holes in our squad. We'll sell poulsen, konchesky, jones, maxi, cole, kyriagkos, ngog and unfourtanetly Stevie G, with a loan here or there
subs; Lucas, Aurellio, Meriles, Gulasci, Carra, Jonjo, Dirk, Suso, and Some other youngsters getting their shots.

Reina
Johnson Kelly/ Dann Agger/ Skertl Taiwo
Honda Adams Marveux/ Turan
Cavani Carroll Suarez

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Firstly non of the midfield 3 are holding mids all attacking and ADAM not Adams and Honda would not be both brought in it would be one or the other to play. Cavani won't be brought in. We need width not some inside winger who would constantly cut in and offer little out wide and im sure Kenny and DC know this. .

much more likely out of your signings who you have guessed we will be getting the line up would be. .

Reina
Johnson Dann Agger Taiwo
Lucas Adam
Suarez Gerrard Turan
Carroll

Gerrard won't be going anywhere. . to be fair i don't think many clubs would pay top draw money for him anyway because he is so injury prone maybe only madrid. .

LFCJAKE

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 22:28:15
To the guy hu said this C.Adam to Spurs and A.Young to Utd is common knowledge! We will not get either of them. How can we compete with the 5 teams above us in the PL?
We were only able to splash out on Carroll as of Torress transfer - neither can we afford or attract the top players in the transfer market im afraid square tomato!

Liverpool r a big club n we will always be able to attract top players n u mmark my word if we get a decent winger n keep aquilani then we will win da league nex season! !

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 22:30:15
What do you think Ed? {Ed001's Note - I think you are right, though we could also do with a proper hardman for the midfield as well in my opinion.} a young stevie g to fill in when he injured would ya no of any {Ed001's Note - maybe M'Vila from what I have been told, but I have not seen enough to judge him. The one I do like though is the Chilean lad playing in Spain now that is nicknamed the Pitbull, though his name escapes me.}
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Gary Medel is his name. He's a real mad lad - Mascherano would be shaking in his boots at the sight of him. He's had a hell of a life as well; been in 3 car crashes, a mass brawl outside a Chilean pub and been involved in the unfortunate death of a woman who fell off a high balcony at his party.

Good player. Looks like he could go off at any moment, though.

Martin {Ed001's Note - he does, but he has some real quality about him as well as aggression, there is more to him than yellow cards. I have watched a lot of Chile (sadly just because I managed them in an old Championship Manager game so started taking an interest in their footie), they have a great youth system. Every player is very good technically, including Medel. I think he could be the missing link to protect the defence and bully the opposition midfield.}

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 22:31:26
All this talk of Charlie Adam, Ashley Young and other mediocre players such as Marveux etc, is really just showing that we have accepted that we are no longer one of the "big four".

If we don't sign WORLD CLASS players then our sorry state of affairs on the pitch will continue.

We don't need three year plans, we just need this summer and we SHOULD NOT cut any corners by signing any of the above mentioned players or any other average joe.

We need to take the tranfer market by storm in the summer if we have any hope of sercuring CL football next season because no doubt City, Spurs, Chelski and the Mancs will all invest heavily in the summer.

Come on the Red Men. {Ed001's Note - your plan has worked so well for City and Madrid hasn't it? It is not about buying big names, it is about buying the right players for the system you want to play. We cleaned up in Europe with players that were by no means big names, until they signed for us. We MAKE big stars not buy them.}

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 22:19:11
Ed, not trying to be rude or anything, but how often do you go to games? Incase your offended Im 14 and from ireland so you could count the games I've been at on 1 hand (4)! {Ed001's Note - these days it is very rare I get the chance as work interferes, which is why I started the site. I used to go to every home game and to watch the stiffs at home too.}

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 22:22:07
Ed is it g.medel that chilean bloke you forgot name to plays in spanish league a cdm DORSET RED {Ed001's Note - that's him! He has a real presence about him, not perfect by any means, but he would add the bite we desperately lack in midfield.}

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 22:05:12
BREAKING NEWS!
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BREAKING NEWS!
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CHAMP19NS
CHAMP19NS
CHAMP19NS
CHAMP19NS

. .OF DEBT.

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 22:06:02
Right, since the Benitez interview came out, people have seen Stevan Jovetic an thought 'theres a random name we haven't put on our INS list yet' even though we tried to buy him two managers ago. I remember seeing him score two goals agains us and thinking he was class so is there any ACTUAL chance of us getting him ed? {Ed001's Note - I have not heard of any interest in him since Rafa's time. Though it is difficult to be sure as we might just have decided we know enough about him and not been watching him.}

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 21:36:34
I would have to say barnes, rush, dalglish, hyypia, hansen meself but heres another one for ya can you make an ultimate liverpool team from all the players past present.choose a manager 1st team and subs.have a go ed.DORSET RED {Ed001's Note - I had to really think about this one and my choice would be Paisley in charge, that was the hardest decision! Clemence, Jones, Hansen, Hughes, Kennedy, Johnston, Souness, Smith, Barnes, Dalglish, Rush are my first XI, though it hurt me to leave out God! Subs are Reina, Lawrenson, Gerrard, McDermott, Heighway, Liddell (though he probably deserves to be in the team I just haven't seen enough of him), Fowler. I really want to put McManaman in somewhere, after all I used to get my tickets off him so I feel a bit ungrateful!}

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 21:37:13
What do you think Ed? {Ed001's Note - I think you are right, though we could also do with a proper hardman for the midfield as well in my opinion.} a young stevie g to fill in when he injured would ya no of any {Ed001's Note - maybe M'Vila from what I have been told, but I have not seen enough to judge him. The one I do like though is the Chilean lad playing in Spain now that is nicknamed the Pitbull, though his name escapes me.}

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 21:39:10
Having been a Liverpool supporter for 37 years, I am seriously dissapointed in the style of football we are playing at the moment! In the past we played the most attractive football and were able to win doing so. These days it just seems there is no plan! I am concerned with the long ball tactics since Andy Carrol has been playing. Great player, but better service required from mid field. Yesterday we only got going when the match was lost. Some players need a rocket up the b. . side before they start playing.

I have tried to be positive for so long, but now have to admit we NEED TO SPEND BIG in the summer! We can't afford to loose another jump on the opposition and might battle to attract the top players with the style we are playing at present. Kenny can do it but needs massive backing from FSG. SAVE OUR CLUB!

I AM AFRAID THAT THE LIKES OF WILSON, SHELVEY AND SPIERING ARE NOT READY FOR LIVERPOOL 1ST TEAM OR BENCH! Ed please comment on your opinion of these 3 players!

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 21:52:21
03 Apr 2011 16:36:49
Anybody believing Lamela is coming may be in for a shock as even if they are to gain a permit what about Shelvey?
If Liverpool rates Shelvey as a great prospect then Erik Lamela is not coming to Liverpool.
Rodney

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Shelvey is a centre-mid. Lamela is mainly deployed as a winger or behind the striker. They're both completely different players, but I feel Lamela will be the better player overall in the coming years. In the not-so-distant future I can invisage a Pastore-like situation where Lamela signs for a small mainland European club, fulfils his massive potential and is chased by the likes of Barcelona and Real - leaving our fans sitting there moaning about how we should have signed him ages ago while we were originally linked.

I certainly wouldn't be complaining if we signed him. Obviously, he's coming from a country where players aren't renowned for their loyalty, but if he decides to leave then I've no doubt we'd make a massive profit.

Martin

Martin

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 21:26:01
03 Apr 2011 20:53:07

03 Apr 2011 20:01:27
I personally don't think we need three big name strikers as we won't be able to keep them all happy that's why I think we should go for two up and coming young strikers and sell ngog anyone agree
I agree mate Ngog simply not good enough, Odemwyngie&Sturridge are what we should be looking at! Pacy skilful strikers who can be back up to our main two but also good enough to come in for long term injuries or suspensions! 4 quality strikers is what you need-thoughts anyone?
Thanks
DevaRED-Jay

ed your thoughts please? Thanks {Ed001's Note - I didn't think Odemwingie was all that young, but I get what you are saying. Personally I think we should be able to cope with 3 top strikers and one younger one for the future. Though I really wouldn't want to touch Sturridge, I heard far too many bad things about him while he was at City.}

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 21:27:48
I personally don't think we need three big name strikers as we won't be able to keep them all happy that's why I think we should go for two up and coming young strikers and sell ngog anyone agree
I agree mate Ngog simply not good enough, Odemwyngie&Sturridge are what we should be looking at! Pacy skilful strikers who can be back up to our main two but also good enough to come in for long term injuries or suspensions! 4 quality strikers is what you need-thoughts anyone?
Thanks
DevaRED-Jay
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We need at least 3 quality strikers, this way we are going to have options, and I think they need to be experinced players. I hope we do not buy Sturridge or Odemwyngie as I don't think they will really add anything to the squad and it is so important that we add quality this summer. Ross

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 21:17:55
FSG should invest heavy in three wingers(one that could play one both wings for backup). my choice would be Sanchez, Hazard and mavreux(sp). A lb should also come Baines, Cassani or Coentrao. We need a striker too i think somebody like Benzema so we can switch formations/ playstyle and if we get an injury on one of our striker. we may posseblie need a cb this summer or next summer

What do you think Ed? {Ed001's Note - I think you are right, though we could also do with a proper hardman for the midfield as well in my opinion.}

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 21:19:22
C.Adam to Spurs and A.Young to Utd is common knowledge! We will not get either of them. How can we compete with the 5 teams above us in the PL?
We were only able to splash out on Carroll as of Torress transfer - neither can we afford or attract the top players in the transfer market im afraid square tomato!
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So what about the 22 million we paid for Suarez, Torres was not sold at that point. so we will be able to compete, and I am not convinced that Young will go to UTD as they need to stregthen the team in other areas. Ross
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Yeah fair point Ross, I guess we can compete financially, and hopefully FSG will give significant finances for DC & KK.
I just hope we will be able to attract players in without European footy and can compete with the wealth of city and chelsea.
Fingers crossed for some strong additions to build our squad. A LB, CB, CM, and Wingers are essential. Perhaps a ST isn't too important.
CB
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I am sure FSG will back us to the hilt, as long as the player represents value for the club, and I am sure Kenny will be looking at quality, but I agree that trying to convince players to join us, even thou we are not in Europe will put some players off joining us. Ross

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 21:23:04
Ed who would you say is the top 5 signings in the history of liverpool? DORSET RED {Ed001's Note - Dalglish, Keegan, Barnes, Hansen, Hughes off the top of my head. Though I want to fit Souness in there and so many others, so it is not a finished list by any means. I was also discounting people like Thommo and Fowler as they came through the youth system. I bet yours is completely different and have me changing my mind completely!}

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 21:11:15
Is anyone else fed up of watching Liverpool play lousy after an international break.For some reason it seems to affect us more than others, especially if we are away from home.It must be bad even Kuyt looked really tired I am sick of it I don't even have any interest in internationals.
Someone a while ago had a brilliant idea, why don't we have a shorter season with no international breaks then have an international season in May/ June giving all federations plenty of time to play friendlies and qualifiers .Then the players can return to their clubs after a break in July, start the season in early September and finish the season in April.Just imagine no stupid international breaks and valuable players returning tired and injured from international duty.
International managers would probably be happier as they would have longer with the players.A system could be worked out that the international federations were responsible for players contracts at this time.Football has changed so much surely the international football system needs changing too.

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 21:13:27
Kenny should snap up martin caceres from barca currently on loan at Seville he's a tough tackler good in the air and very quick although playing rb at the minute cb is his favoured position, Seville team mate Federico Fazio could also be a good signing very solid and dominant in the air, each player would cost less than Cahill from bolton.roll on transfer window

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 20:53:07

03 Apr 2011 20:01:27
I personally don't think we need three big name strikers as we won't be able to keep them all happy that's why I think we should go for two up and coming young strikers and sell ngog anyone agree
I agree mate Ngog simply not good enough, Odemwyngie&Sturridge are what we should be looking at! Pacy skilful strikers who can be back up to our main two but also good enough to come in for long term injuries or suspensions! 4 quality strikers is what you need-thoughts anyone?
Thanks
DevaRED-Jay

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 20:55:35
I think that with kenny in charge, our main transfer target should be arda turan kenny loves him and he loves Liverpool we should defo get him and early on as atletico wanna snap hm up

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 20:49:30
Wheres macca benzeama has come out and said he doesn't want a move to the PL THERES GOES HIS PREDICTION !

Anyone catch benitez interview? He was after Jovetic alves and malouda

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 20:51:52
C.Adam to Spurs and A.Young to Utd is common knowledge! We will not get either of them. How can we compete with the 5 teams above us in the PL?
We were only able to splash out on Carroll as of Torress transfer - neither can we afford or attract the top players in the transfer market im afraid square tomato!
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So what about the 22 million we paid for Suarez, Torres was not sold at that point. so we will be able to compete, and I am not convinced that Young will go to UTD as they need to stregthen the team in other areas. Ross
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Yeah fair point Ross, I guess we can compete financially, and hopefully FSG will give significant finances for DC & KK.
I just hope we will be able to attract players in without European footy and can compete with the wealth of city and chelsea.
Fingers crossed for some strong additions to build our squad. A LB, CB, CM, and Wingers are essential. Perhaps a ST isn't too important.
CB

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 20:35:18
To all those "fans" saying that we will not be able to attract any "top" names, think again.

Remember Man City not so long ago, who had nothing to offer but a good wage?. Look at some of the players they manage to get. Silva, Dzeko, Johnson, Tevez etc.

We have money (not as much as city but we have a shed load) and a great history and worldwide recognition among fans and players alike.

I'm confident NESV will invest heavy this summer and we WILL get some quality signings. We the fans, NESV, KK and DC know we need them.

Onwards and upwards LFC

The Crow.

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 20:19:58
Ed wat would you think of the idea of playing wing backs?

SUMMER INS

RICHARDS-18M
SAKHO-13M*

BAINES-13M*
WENDT-FREE
CISSOKHO-10M

M, VILLA-15M*
GAGO-10M
BENEGA-10M

ADAM-10M*
SISSOKO-12M
CANALES-LOAN*

BOJAN-LOAN*
BENZEMA-22M


LINE UP

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .REINA. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

. . . . . . . . KELLY. . .AGGER. . .SAKHO. . . . . . . . . .

JOHNSON. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .BAINES

. . . . . . .GERRARD. . .M, VILLA. . . . ADAM. . . . . . . .

. . . . . . . . . . . SUAREZ. . . . . CARROLL. . . . . . . . .

SUBS- WENDT, MARVAUX, MEIRELES, FLANNAGAN, SUSO, CARRA, SHELVEY, BOJAN, CANALES

WAT DO YOU THINK ED? {Ed001's Note - I would rather we got wingers myself.}

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 20:21:03
Dani pacheco was excellent for norwich yesterday. if he continues like this surely kenny will have some thinking to do.

LFC-IRE


yeah i posted earlier regarding pacheco's performance it was quality

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 20:01:27
I personally don't think we need three big name strikers as we won't be able to keep them all happy that's why I think we should go for two up and coming young strikers and sell ngog anyone agree

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 19:55:50
{Ed002's Note - The issue I find surprising is that Hodgson was blamed repeatedly for poor performances yet Dalglish never has to shoulder any blame when the players fail to deliver on the pitch. I certainly see Dalglish as having done an excellent short-term job in bringing the team together but I have never seen him as a long-term solution. As for feeling sorry for Hodgson and any pay off he got, that is down to the owners or whoever negotiated on behalf of the club.}

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Hodgson was blamed because there were far too many bad performances than good ones, and in particular the away formation and tactics were so defensive, even against the teams that we as Liverpool (top 6 or 7 club) should be aiming to take 3 points from.
Under Dalglish in the premiership we only had 2 bad outings, against westham and yesterday, and I/ and others did post that Kenny did get it wrong, and about not playing Raul in middle or trying 433 without Gerrard, and about his lack of European experience.
As for Kenny long-term, I agree with you and I think the owners do to, but not sure if they'll stick or bow to the fans pressure.I certainly see no harm of having him for the next 2 years while we rebuild , but I also understand and agree with the idea of rebuilding under a younger manager for the next 10 years .
Roy

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 19:50:53
Dani pacheco was excellent for norwich yesterday. if he continues like this surely kenny will have some thinking to do.

LFC-IRE

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 19:45:57
I expect us to sign one player for reasonably big money, probably ashley young- £25m or someone we don't expect, others will include adam-8-12m, marveaux- free, jose enrique/ baines-£12m and another central midfielder

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 19:26:28
I had to listen on the WBA match on the radio, so i couldn't see how Wilson performed, but against Braga he seemed okay defensively but offers nothing going forward, seemed scared to go past the halfway line and whenever he got the ball he passed it back to the center halves, Ive still got hope for him for the future but not on the flanks. do you think he'll be loaned out in the summer?

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I agree, he's very fragile at left back, just because his predominant peg is his left side, doesn't mean to say he'll be a good left back. Against Braga he looked very uncomfortable when tracking back and defending the winger cutting in on his right side. Strikes me he has no right peg and has done his apprenticeship in the sweeper mold, allowing himself more time to adjust onto his left peg. The jury's out for me. Im suprised at KK, he should've replaced Agger with Wlson and brough Alan Kennedy on at left back yesterday!

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 19:10:34
Hey mpez, when you go back on your own site will you ask Sydney 'WHAT HIS FAVORITE MOVIE IS' Aparently he loves that question.

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 18:52:48
Ed, how is Cahill a hoofer? I watched the England game vs Ghana, not hoofed once. Also, seen both Bolton vs Liverpool games, didn't hoof then either? {Ed001's Note - he certainly did against us, I don't watch international footie but every time I see him play for Bolton I wonder if Fat Sam has actually left.}

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 18:57:30
Don't want to sound stupid but can anyone tell me what Rooney actually said to the camera? I heard a few f-words when watching a youtube clip, but couldn't make out the word/ s that followed.

Adam.

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 18:53:00
My Benzema comment was written wrong. I wasn't saying that he 'didn't say it', but that it does not mean he will go to Liverpool. I know, for a fact, that Karim Benzema will be staying at Real Madrid for next season - at least - provided nothing bad happens.

MPez
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Your right you wern't saying he "didn't say it" you said

"You seriously are a 'Square Tomato' as no such thing happened"

So what one is it? Did he say nothing or nothing happened? You fraud lol

Blair Mayne YNWA

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 18:44:35
In reply to:

"MPez how is it that you seem to know "inside info" about possible tansfers, on this site? And not once have i seen you post any "inside info" on the Man'ure site.

Explanation please mate!

Blair Mayne YNWA"

Ehhh, I'm pretty sure I do you nugget.

Have a look, or ask Sydney or anybody then.

MPez
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Yea i'll ask Sydney/ Malcolm lol

Please give me an example of what player "inside info" you have heard and put it on the Man'ure site.

Blair Mayne YNWA

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 18:40:37
In reply to:

"You seem to know what all players are doing, only yesterday you were saying Adam was going to Spurs. you are a fountain of knowledge MPez, can you let me know what the lottery numbers are please as you seem to know everything else. Ross"

Ah, we a have a funny guy, Brilliant!

I do not 'seem to know what all players are doing'. . Unfortunately as I could make big money!
Howevere, I do know what I am told, and what I do know I will tell you.

Adam will be a Tottenham Hotspur player come September 1st, I do know this.

My Benzema comment was written wrong. I wasn't saying that he 'didn't say it', but that it does not mean he will go to Liverpool. I know, for a fact, that Karim Benzema will be staying at Real Madrid for next season - at least - provided nothing bad happens.

MPez

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 18:35:22
In reply to:

"Don't get me wrong, im a big LFC fan, but we need to be far more realistic. . .

C.Adam will go to Spurs
A.Young will go to Man U Spam
Cahill will prob go to Man U too
Baines will not be sold to us
Coentrao, Benzema, M vila and Hazard are out of our price range or will go for clubs in European Football

Sorry to put a downer on transfers but we need to be more realistic! !"

Ah, a realistic Liverpool fan for once! Good to see!

MPez

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 18:33:02
03 Apr 2011 18:06:36
BREAKING NEWS!
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BREAKING NEWS!
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CHAMP19NS
CHAMP19NS
CHAMP19NS
CHAMP19NS
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I suppose congratulations are in order. .no hang on a minute, I seem to remember you've gotta get another few European cups yet before you reach our dizzy heights! LFC STILL the most succesful club in England despite the fact that we've given you 20 years to try and catch up!

Chris in Tamworth

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 18:24:36
MPez how is it that you seem to know "inside info" about possible tansfers, on this site? And not once have i seen you post any "inside info" on the Man'ure site.

Explanation please mate!

Blair Mayne YNWA"

Ehhh, I'm pretty sure I do you nugget.

Have a look, or ask Sydney or anybody then.

MPez
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You seem to know what all players are doing, only yesterday you were saying Adam was going to Spurs. you are a fountain of knowledge MPez, can you let me know what the lottery numbers are please as you seem to know everything else. Ross

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 18:20:27
In reply to:

"MPez how is it that you seem to know "inside info" about possible tansfers, on this site? And not once have i seen you post any "inside info" on the Man'ure site.

Explanation please mate!

Blair Mayne YNWA"

Ehhh, I'm pretty sure I do you nugget.

Have a look, or ask Sydney or anybody then.

MPez

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 18:19:32
Chris in Tamworth. Yeh, Comoli is the man to find people like Odemiwinge and others and I believe he will do it. The scouting system is good at the club and the recent overhaul has made it stronger from what I know. BTW - agree with you about Steve Parker but think he's probably not coming back. Big loss in my mind.

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 18:15:55
In reply to:

"Karim benzema spoke on French radio sayin he has no interest in moving to united or Chelsea read into it what you will

Square tomato"

You seriously are a 'Square Tomato' as no such thing happened!

MPez
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MPez how is it that you seem to know "inside info" about possible tansfers, on this site? And not once have i seen you post any "inside info" on the Man'ure site.

Explanation please mate!

Blair Mayne YNWA

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 18:09:49
Hey Ed, have we sold Mikel San Jose to Athetic Bilbao or is he still on loan? Thanks
Adzii {Ed002's Note - He is an Athletic Bilbao player - and has been since last summer.}

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 18:10:58
Liverpool 11-12 Away Kit is going back to the Iconic grey and silver kit with red trim

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 18:06:36
BREAKING NEWS!
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BREAKING NEWS!
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CHAMP19NS
CHAMP19NS
CHAMP19NS
CHAMP19NS

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 18:07:38
03 Apr 2011 16:29:46
Liverpool's new away kit for the 2011/ 12 season is the iconic yellow & red. Yellow as the base colour with red pin-stripes

That is rubbish. The new away kit will be silver/ grey with red stripes. Fact.

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 18:00:56
In reply to:

"Karim benzema spoke on French radio sayin he has no interest in moving to united or Chelsea read into it what you will

Square tomato"

You seriously are a 'Square Tomato' as no such thing happened!

MPez

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 18:06:07
03 Apr 2011 17:48:16
Like the love that dare not speak it's name I raise this name with some trepidation-Odemwyngie?(spelling?)fast skilful direct, runs at defenders with pace leads the line and can hold the ball up also a great shot!not to mention he had our defence on toast yesterday! I brace myself for the replies, if any.
Thanks
DevaRED-Jay
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Absolutely spot on mate. I wouldn't go so far as to suggest we buy Odemwinge (although we could do worse) but as I alluded to in an earlier post we don't seem to be finding players like this. I'm afraid I don't have enough knowledge of our scouting system to suggest why this isn't happening I can only hope that Commoli is the man to put this right. I would like Steve Parker's thoughts on this as I am sure he will have some detailed knowledge of our scouting system. (notice the thinly veiled attempt at trying to butter SP up enough to coax a reply out of him. I'm sure he'll bite eventually and when he does I can see it being one hell of a post! )

Chris in Tamworth

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 17:35:00
{Ed002's Note - I assume you were just of supportive of Roy Hodgson then?}

Direct question to Ed002-
Many times you have given the impression Roy did not deserve the criticism he got, do you really believe Roy would have done as well as Kenny did in the past 2 months?
I know you don't support Liverpool , but I am guessing you are a footballing man (else what are you doing in here); Do you not think with Kenny Liverpool are playing a more positive football as top teams should do, instead of Roys negative tactics that mostly employed by lower teams trying to survive?
If you purely feel sorry for him, I would n't; he was paid close to 8m for 6 months he was in charge dragging us down.
Roy

{Ed002's Note - The issue I find surprising is that Hodgson was blamed repeatedly for poor performances yet Dalglish never has to shoulder any blame when the players fail to deliver on the pitch. I certainly see Dalglish as having done an excellent short-term job in bringing the team together but I have never seen him as a long-term solution. As for feeling sorry for Hodgson and any pay off he got, that is down to the owners or whoever negotiated on behalf of the club.}

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 18:00:20
Hi Ed,

Do you think with the injuries to Aurelio, Agger & Johnson and with Wilson struggling at left back we could see a start for Jack Robinson? and do you think he's up to the task? {Ed001's Note - I think it is more likely Wilson will carry on there, his struggles are more down to the lack of quality alongside him than anything else. I would like to see Robinson given a few chances before the end of the season though, he has shown a marked improvement this season. I think he looks good enough to make the position his own in coming years.}

I had to listen on the WBA match on the radio, so i couldn't see how Wilson performed, but against Braga he seemed okay defensively but offers nothing going forward, seemed scared to go past the halfway line and whenever he got the ball he passed it back to the center halves, Ive still got hope for him for the future but not on the flanks. do you think he'll be loaned out in the summer? {Ed001's Note - no I don't, I think we will see him given more chances next season.}

It must be frustrating for him, he was playing in the Rangers first team and even made some appearances in the Champions League last season albeit through injuries to senior players, and now he is playing reserves football with the occasional cameo appearance in an unfamiliar position.

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 17:48:16
Like the love that dare not speak it's name I raise this name with some trepidation-Odemwyngie?(spelling?)fast skilful direct, runs at defenders with pace leads the line and can hold the ball up also a great shot!not to mention he had our defence on toast yesterday! I brace myself for the replies, if any.
Thanks
DevaRED-Jay

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 17:43:36
This season has been the worst I have ever had to experience as a supporter, and that is saying something. The sooner it is over the better. The very fact that King Kenny is coming in for stick now from certain sections of our alleged fan base sums up the state of the game as it is today. You don't deserve to call yourself a supporter of this club if you can't show the great man respect. Forums make a defeat ten times worse than they should be! RED77
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To be honest RED mate, i think this has been one of our best seasons in a few years. I know we are 6th and have a weak squad. But we've got rid of H&G and Hodgson.

We've got Kenny in charge and Steve Clarke as No.2 (our best signing of the season)

We seem to have new owners who will not be afraid to invest in the squad (which is a necessity) I think we are all in agreement mate that FSG will spend sensible money in the summer.

We sold our sulky No.9 and replaced him with 2 quality strikers.

There is deffinitely somthing happening behind the scenes with regards to new Stadium or Redevelopment of Anfield.

And FSG have set up a "Supporters Committee" were 13 fans from different fans groups will meet 4 times a year. And give us what we've wanted for a long, long time, a voice on the board. This one for me was a master stroke by FSG to try and earn the fans trust. No other club i know of has this but then again no other clubs fans know and love their club, as much as we do.

All the above mate is why i'm looking forward to the summer. It'll be like starting afresh, add that to us signing 5-7 players then i hope you agree mate, it hasn't been that bad. We could have been going into next season in the Championship with H&G in charge, how f***ed would we have been then?

I agree with you about the stick Kenny gets somtimes. But that's peoples opinions mate (no matter how ludicras it sounds)

Blair Mayne YNWA

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 17:41:27
Afternoon ed .ref to the 9.24 post about what the sun said mail him back this please .F*** the sun there w**k true lfc fans don't read s**t , justice for the 96 always remembered they, ll never walk alone cheers psv. {Ed001's Note - it has to be remembered that many fans are too young to know about that. It is better to post it up so that people can point out what happened and they learn something.}

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 17:25:19
Yeh ur right about the back four but I still want to see Agger stay. He mite be injured a lot, but hes the only really classy defender who can bring the ball out from the back. I still want Samba from Blackburn as he is a monster and would work well with either Carra or Agger. Just looking thru the earlier banter and think it is shame that Steve Parkers got p***ed off and gone. He would have had something harsh to say about this back four. Come back Steve! :)

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 17:18:36
03 Apr 2011 17:01:11
Reading through this site on a regular basis it's clear to see that no only do we need a complete overhaul of playing staff this summer but we need to clear out a lot of the so called support also. They used to say LFC fans knew their stuff. I think the Benitez era did nothing to help in that regard. Yes Jamie is getting on, but he is the least of our problems.

clubfirst.com
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I couldn't agree more, our problems are much more deep lying than some poor or ageing players. Our scouting system for one doesn't seem to be able to find any new talent. As for the CB position I have been extolling the virtues of Dejan Lovren for some time on here I'll admit he isn't Emlyn but he does put me in mind of a young Jockey Hansen. I only hope our scouts have noticed him as well. ( I won't hold my breath)

Chris in Tamworth

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 17:05:14
Dear me, sometimes its a little embarrassing reading the posts on here. Get a grip people. Our squad is woeful, the poorest in probably 15 years. And yet people STILL want miracles. Calling for Kenny's head after a poor defeat is not going to help anything. Gauranga himself would struggle to get this lot to win anything. Its like giving Kenny a Nissan Micra and then bitching when he doesn't win a Grand Prix. Pathetic. I suppose its the curse of the internet generation but it doesn't make it any easier to read. RED77 {Ed002's Note - I assume you were just of supportive of Roy Hodgson then?}
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I would suspect he wasn't Ed (and rightly so). Hodgson deserved the criticism, Kenny does not. Hodgson had us at 16th, Kenny has us at 6th.

How poor and weak squad is now, starting to show. The difference is that Hodgson couldn't get the best out of our squad (for whatever reason) but Kenny seems to be doing ok with what he's got. I suppose Kenny has more to work with i.e Suarez and Carrol. But still mate we shouldn't have been 16th after 12 games.

Blair Mayne YNWA

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 17:09:03
Karim benzema spoke on French radio sayin he has no interest in moving to united or Chelsea read into it what you will


Square tomato


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no mention of LFC? he's coming then! ;p

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I do think the benzema deal could be done.
If he was a Target for FSG then I think there sensible enough to tie up a deal if they could. If they didn't there's a risk he found form making his price rise.( which has happened ).
So fingers crossed he's coming.

LAVERS

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 17:12:22
The best teams have always been built from the back. Liverpool's defence is either too, a misfit or too injury prone.
The ownership issues spoilt forward planning.
With Liverpool's season effectively over, bold changes can now be made. In almost ALL positions.

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 17:14:19
This season has been the worst I have ever had to experience as a supporter, and that is saying something. The sooner it is over the better. The very fact that King Kenny is coming in for stick now from certain sections of our alleged fan base sums up the state of the game as it is today. You don't deserve to call yourself a supporter of this club if you can't show the great man respect. Forums make a defeat ten times worse than they should be! RED77

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 17:02:30
In response to your rather blunt response, yes I was supportive of Woy. Until it became increasingly obvious that the task of Managing such a big club was way beyond his capabilities. I refrained from the vitriolic abuse that was directed at him on here (edited by you). RED77

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 17:01:11
Reading through this site on a regular basis it's clear to see that no only do we need a complete overhaul of playing staff this summer but we need to clear out a lot of the so called support also. They used to say LFC fans knew their stuff. I think the Benitez era did nothing to help in that regard. Yes Jamie is getting on, but he is the least of our problems.

clubfirst.com

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 16:59:51
Anyone else watch norwich at the weekend? pacheco was quality

ed did ya see it mate? {Ed002's Note - I did not see it but reports are that he did very well.}


he was awesome mate, his passing an movement were outstanding, i hope he does well an works his way back because what ive seen of him in the reserves an youth team hes a real talent

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 16:51:38
Dear me, sometimes its a little embarrassing reading the posts on here. Get a grip people. Our squad is woeful, the poorest in probably 15 years. And yet people STILL want miracles. Calling for Kenny's head after a poor defeat is not going to help anything. Gauranga himself would struggle to get this lot to win anything. Its like giving Kenny a Nissan Micra and then bitching when he doesn't win a Grand Prix. Pathetic. I suppose its the curse of the internet generation but it doesn't make it any easier to read. RED77 {Ed002's Note - I assume you were just of supportive of Roy Hodgson then?}

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 16:51:50
Anyone else watch norwich at the weekend? pacheco was quality

ed did ya see it mate ? {Ed002's Note - I did not see it but reports are that he did very well.}

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 16:45:48
03 Apr 2011 16:29:46
Liverpool's new away kit for the 2011/ 12 season is the iconic yellow & red. Yellow as the base colour with red pin-stripes.
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03 Apr 2011 16:44:33
Great post about replacing carra couldnt agree more every great manager has those decisions to make and carra really is struggling.
DCG

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 16:36:55
"Now, you either are Jeremy_Lfc on Twitter or you have no legitimate sources. Sorry mate but you've been found out."

Just dropped in to let ye know that Albrighton will be linked a lot the coming few weeks.
As for the above post, who is Jeremy, mate? Cause I certainly am not.

Did he also say what I posted? If so, that's just nothing more than a coincidence. But it's good that he's also in the know. If this Jeremy character did indeed relay such info, then that can only support what I said. Good on him. Let's hope he didn't come on here and steal my info, though, that would be sad.

I don't use Twitter. Tried once to create an account, but it just couldn't come off. So I just gave it up. Samething with Facebook. (Maybe it's because I used a mobile?)

But if there are some connected people there, perhaps I should give it another go and make some contacts.

Genuinely In The Know

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 16:37:12
In reply to RMD post at 14:39
What game were you watching you complain about spearing being played out wide and lucas in the middle on his own and kuyt being brought back in the 80 minute to play 442 i mean honstly we played 442 from the start with lucas and spearing in the middle and in the 80 minute went with kuyt and suarez wide with mereiles in behind carrol. This just backs me up about some of the absolutebaffling comments on here
DCG

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 16:36:49
Anybody believing Lamela is coming may be in for a shock as even if they are to gain a permit what about Shelvey?
If Liverpool rates Shelvey as a great prospect then Erik Lamela is not coming to Liverpool.
Rodney

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 16:29:46
Liverpool's new away kit for the 2011/ 12 season is the iconic yellow & red. Yellow as the base colour with red pin-stripes.

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 16:30:05
I totally agree about the mighty Emlyn he could bring the ball out of defence, play a one- two and stick it in the back of the net.Just like the great Bill Shankly once said the boy Hughes has everything. Emlyn was eased out of the side when his standards dropped.Sir bob had no sentiment in dropping older players and replacing them Emlyn was replaced by Hansen Thompson was replaced by. lawrenson.Kenny must find the balls to get shut of Carra do you think he will ed? Ihate the alehouse footie he is playing these days. . {Ed001's Note - his time is defo coming to an end, Kenny will have no problem replacing him when there is a stronger squad to choose from.}

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 16:25:28
@Blair
ha . Alright mate, I'll give you that one.
You usually post common sense, so that's why I couldn't get over the 'bogus' post.
It was a good day that though.
Glad to see you're still on speaking terms with Ed002 by the way !
KB

{Ed002's Note - So you are making an assumption that I am not Blair then. . }
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I think you've got a wee thing for me Ms Ed002. Don't worry i have that effect on all the ladies. I think you would call it "panache" yes?

Blair Mayne YNWA

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 16:22:14
As much as I think A.Johnson would be a great signing I doubt we will get a chance of signing him! City won't sell him to a rival club especially after being given a chance today and taking it with both hands!

Yesterdays game shows we need at least 6 signings to strengthen our team! Wilson played well out of position but the greek is terrible cover for our defence two penalties inside 3 weeks!

Ed's love the site check it without fail everyday! First comment!.

YNWA

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 16:17:32
I think liverpool need around 6/ 7 players in the summer and i a few i would like to see would be;

Canales- 16million
Arda Turan- 13/ 14 million- FOR DEFINATE
Baines- 12million
Marveaux- free
Dimitri Payet- 15 million
Jarvis- 12 million
Benzema- 30 million

i would also think we should use the youth team more often with players like Suso, Coady, Silva, Pacheco, Sterling etc.

Do you share the same views ed(s)?

Cheers lads, quality site. {Ed001's Note - I would definitely like to see more of the youngsters, but at the right times and with the right players around them. We could defo use one of our young left wingers right now, with the pressure off for the rest of the season now would be a good time to give one a chance.}

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 16:16:44
That Peter Odemwingie showed what a donkey pack we have at the back.
Redeyedhector

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 16:07:58
ha ha to whoever posted that the ed was wrong about the away kit for next season because they saw the kit on liverpoolfc.tv an it's plain black with just the crest on it do u not know that's a blackout ha ha ha it's gettin unveiled on the 14th if I'm not mistaken , honest sum people on this site wud be better of lookin for a brain rather than lookin for rumours ha ha ha . . . . The chef kd7 YNWA JFT96

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 16:10:10
{Ed002's Note - Yes. Nice to have a Crawley Town supporter come visit as well.}

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Is that some sort of joke Ed002?

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 16:10:25
Dear Eds,
couldnt agree any less with a post earlier from a fellow red saying he had watched adam and his passing was great today. I thought he was very slow in possession, went to ground a lot and his first touch was very poor, not moblie enough getting round the pitch either. We have enough players already with limited ability. Surely we have to look at places with pace in every area?

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 16:05:40
I truly respect what he as done, like i did Big Sami The mighty Emlyn Jocky Hansen, Tommo and Mark lawro. But like all great players they get old.Please Kenny put him out to pasture. Give flanno a chance.

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Theres never been a centre half as good as Emlyn Hughes. In my opinion he had it all. If we could ever find a player of similar quality it would improve our team ten fold.

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 16:02:54
I had Liverpool, Cardiff, Shrewsbury and Crawley Town on the fixed odds yesterday. £30 paid £270. Its the first time i've thrown my team in the gambling mix this season but given how we've been playing and how I thought the lads would've been up for it to avoid a bit of a 'Dammed United' type situation, 5-4 seemed very attractive. I never got to the game yesterday due to work committments an missed MOD. Was Agger replacd by The Greek due to injury? {Ed002's Note - Yes. Nice to have a Crawley Town support come visit as well.}

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 16:02:15
Jesus lads put the handbags away, were here to talk about football, facebook is for the botching! !

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 16:02:18
Ed is there interest in iker munianin (spelling) at bilbao I think he's a great youngster who can play as a forward or a winger. Great site keep up the work {Ed002's Note - There is no interest that I am aware of in Muniain.}

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 15:59:31
I see Carra was back to his hoofing best again .I was hoping Kenny would give young Flanno a game. What gets me, is the fact that Carra got his chance in the side at a young age, now he is sticking around stinking the place out.Hoofing the ball out all the time, I know he was a dogs of war fan in his teens, but he is a second rater these days.Have him playing with the reserves learning them positional play, he would be great for that, but his first team days are long gone.I truly respect what he as done, like i did Big Sami The mighty Emlyn Jocky Hansen, Tommo and Mark lawro. But like all great players they get old.Please Kenny put him out to pasture. Give flanno a chance.

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 15:54:48
Ed002 = Blair Mayne ?
One and the same ?
You must be schizo then. .like a Jekyll & Hyde.
And Ed002 is defo Mr/ s Hyde !
Lol.
KB

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 15:55:17
Who the h*** is steve parker and whats the fuss about? {Ed002's Note - Steve is a regular contributor of thought provoking posts who has this weekend started the male menopause.}

he posted The Madness of King Roy stuff. Great stuff but the way Ed002 is having a pop at him you think he was a t**t. Sad words Ed and no wonder he's left. You might still be here and editing, but it'll be mostly drivel you'll be reading from now on.
Mark JF96

{Ed002's Note - I have had plenty of practice.}

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 15:46:35
Theres one certain fact, Commolli needs to get out there and bring in two centre halfs. The greeks one of the worst excuses i've seen for a centre half. It even annoys me now when he strides up for a corner thinking he's going to get his nut on the ball, he's always poorly positioned and at best gets a touch on the ball due to his height. Thats as good as it gets. Defensively i'd out him up there with ensua for ameteur mitakes and consequential goals conceded. He's cost us at least nine points this season.

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 15:48:58
03 Apr 2011 14:44:27
Listen up, everyone.Our representatives, headed by Commolli, met FirstEleven ISM head super-agent Franjo Vranjkovic on Thurdsday.

This meeting was to mainly renew our interest in Moussa Sissoko.This after the player had declared publicly his intention to leave. Our interest in the player has been long-standing, and initial approaches were made in November, which the player snubbed.

I can also tell you that LFC is the only club to have OFFICIALLY moved for Hazard after January (for now).Commolli has already met with Lille chairman, Michel Seydoux.

Also, enquiries for Fabio Coentrao have been made.We're making some moves, fellas, so keep the faith. At the very least, six new players will come in the summer.

I'll keep you posted whenever there's something new to tell. Don't hound me for news, I'll tell when my sources have given something.

Genuinely In The Know

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Now, you either are Jeremy_Lfc on Twitter or you have no legitimate sources. Sorry mate but you've been found out. .

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 15:39:04
Who the h*** is steve parker and whats the fuss about? {Ed002's Note - Steve is a regular contributor of thought provoking posts who has this weekend started the male menopause.}

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 15:39:37
Well if we've lost Steve Parker to another site cos of the way he was treated then that's s***. At least we got Blair YNWA to fill in the gap, but he no Steve Parker. Soz mate, wasn't being rude to you but you know what I mean! If your still reading this Steve come on and post we rate your words mate.
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I totally agree mate Steve Parker is one of the best on here. But IF he can't accept me or any other person disagreeing with him. Then what's the point of other people voiceing different opinions? That's what this or any other site is all about, different people with different opinions.

But don't worry IF he dosn't come back we still have Martin, Roy, Macca, Irish Kev, LAVERS, Chris Tanworth, Redfish, 1977, Ed's etc. If i've left anyone one out then i apologise because you are all great posters with great opinions.

Blair Mayne YNWA

Ps. I nearly forgot the "master" **e*****.

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 15:42:48
03 Apr 2011 15:20:51
03 Apr 2011 13:31:14
Because of our defensive crisis with
KELLY, AGGER, AURLIEO and JOHNSON all injured we are only left with CARRA, SOTO, WILSON and SKERTL would we/ could we call AYALA or KONCHESKY back from loan?

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I'd rather play no defenders than Paul Konchesky. He's a left-back version of Kyrgiakos - he gives the ball away, his positioning is laughable, his relationship with the fans is as smooth as a back country road, he can't tackle, head or shoot and nor does he have enough pace to play professional football. In fact, I'd vouch Kyrgiakos would've look like Franz Beckenbauer had he lined up alongside Konchesky yesterday.

Though I do completely agree that we should bring Ayala back. He's miles better than any of our fit centre-backs and he doesn't hoof the ball to Carroll every time an attacker comes within 100 yards of him.

Martin
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on top of that i'd recall mavinga 2 use the remaining games at left back (to actually give him a chance rather than spending money getting players in and then loan them out to then sell them before they play a game for the first team like we did san jose). or insua as hes not playing in gala anyway

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 15:43:24
@Blair
ha . Alright mate, I'll give you that one.
You usually post common sense, so that's why I couldn't get over the 'bogus' post.
It was a good day that though.
Glad to see you're still on speaking terms with Ed002 by the way !
KB

{Ed002's Note - So you are making an assumption that I am not Blair then....}

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 15:30:17
Hey Blair,
Were you genuinely in on Ed002's april fools, or what ?
KB
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Yes KB mate. I posted "By details at midday Ed you mean April Fools day"

Ed002 posted "That's great news for the club. Can't wait" Blair Mayne YNWA

Blair Mayne YNWA

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 15:27:21
Well if we've lost Steve Parker to another site cos of the way he was treated then that's s***. At least we got Blair YNWA to fill in the gap, but he no Steve Parker. Soz mate, wasn't being rude to you but you know what I mean! If your still reading this Steve come on and post we rate your words mate.

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 15:20:51
03 Apr 2011 13:31:14
Because of our defensive crisis with
KELLY, AGGER, AURLIEO and JOHNSON all injured we are only left with CARRA, SOTO, WILSON and SKERTL would we/ could we call AYALA or KONCHESKY back from loan?

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I'd rather play no defenders than Paul Konchesky. He's a left-back version of Kyrgiakos - he gives the ball away, his positioning is laughable, his relationship with the fans is as smooth as a back country road, he can't tackle, head or shoot and nor does he have enough pace to play professional football. In fact, I'd vouch Kyrgiakos would've look like Franz Beckenbauer had he lined up alongside Konchesky yesterday.

Though I do completely agree that we should bring Ayala back. He's miles better than any of our fit centre-backs and he doesn't hoof the ball to Carroll every time an attacker comes within 100 yards of him.

Martin

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 15:21:44
I agree with Chris from Tamworth and I don't think we can lose the good posters like Steve Parker. I don't always agree with what he says, but I think he puts what we think into words that many of us couldn't. I don't think you make any money out of the site Editor, and I don't think you get paid, but if you want the site to develop then we need people like Steve Parker. But then it is your site.
Mark JF96 {Ed001's Note - I am not telling him not to post, he is as free to post as any of you are, with exactly the same strictures as you have.}

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 15:12:50
Steve take a deep breath. . count to ten. . then decide that you should continue to post after all. I don't know all the details but it seems to me if the Ed was being a bit over sensitive that's all it was, no offence meant I'm sure and the site would be lessened without your input. I for one hope to read your entertaining posts again soon. I know in the past I have accused you of "waffling on a bit" but seriously it makes for excellent banter.

Chris in Tamworth

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 15:13:37
This is theturdz speaking
i have just read on a site that roy hodgeson was given a £7.3 million payoff after his disastrous 6months in charge can somebody please verify this? as this is an absolute scandle and if found to be true than i think he should be ashamed to take this money after what he did trying his best to get us relegated were all in this together george osbourn said what a load of s**te, players and managers alike are squeezing the life out of the game with their unbelievable greed just like the MPs it has to end soon or more clubs will go bust
from theturdz struggling just pay my rent

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 15:03:56
Karim benzema spoke on French radio sayin he has no interest in moving to united or Chelsea read into it what you will

Square tomato

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no mention of LFC? he's coming then! ;p

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 14:52:53
Hey Blair,
Were you genuinely in on Ed002's april fools, or what ?
KB

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 14:53:11
I mean no disrespect to fellow fans or Kenny Dalglish but when you look at how well we have played in certain matches to get ourselves up the table it pains me to think that because of bad tactics and poor displays against bottom of the league teams may realistically cost us that 4th place.Look at the facts, we should have beaten West Ham, Wigan and yesterday West brom. . . . we picked up 1 point from those 3 matches, had we picked up the full amount as we should have done we would now be 3 points clear of Spurs in joint 4th place.
Changes are needed throughout the team and maybe Kenny is not the answer, I truly hope I'm proven wrong.

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 14:55:01
No Ed your wrong there is a picture of Carroll, Gerrard and Suarez wearing the full kit and it is plain black and only bears the club crest. Its a bold design possibly a grower.
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Lmao! Sorry but, what a fool.

Stone.

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 14:50:35
Gents we all need to calm down a bit.

I know we lost, so be it, can't change that, but everytime we lose we come on here ripping each others posts apart and having digs at each other.

Lee73

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 14:51:14
Watching the Fulham Blackpool game at the moment, and i have to say Charlie Adams passing has been phenomenal today. If we can lure him to Anfield in the summer, i believe that he will provide great service to our attackers. Dare I say it, just like Xabi did . .

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 14:49:36
Re:

Nice on editors! P*** off the best poster on the site!
Jesus mate - you want this to be a great forum and yet you lose someone who makes me want to check in and read every day. So tell me where you're posting now Steve cos I want to read more of your stuff.
Unbelievable bad way of handling this.

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Just to add my 2 pence worth, i'm puzzled as to why some people can say piss off and Jesus yet when i make a post with the word "poo" in it, it gets censored and edited. Do different ed's have different rules or what?. {Ed001's Note - yes we all edit our own way, and it was just missed by me to be honest, I would have starred it out if I had spotted it. I read it but assumed my mind had filled in the stars as the site's swear filter should have caught it.}

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 14:46:58
I responded in detail yesterday.
It was ignored and not posted by the editors.
I will confine myself to reading and not posting from now on.

Steve Parker
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Steve take a deep breath mate and grow up, you're smarter than that. I posted loads on Tues and Wed and none of them made it on mate. But i'm not blaming the Ed's or anyone, to be honest it was all BS anyway.

Blair Mayne YNWA

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 14:39:28
I feel like I have to put some input into the Kenny Dalglish talk. My issue isn't that he shouldn't be Liverpool manager, my issue is that he needs to get upto date on current tactics. From kick-off it was obvious that we were being out-battled in midfield, having Meireles and Spearing out wide and just Lucas in the middle to battle against 3 WBA players, it took Kenny Dalglish until the 80th minute to bring Kuyt back to RM to have a 4-man midfield. We instantly looked better after this tactical change. My question is, why did it take KK until the 80th minute to realise this change was needed? Again, great man, great manager but his tactics for this game showed that he's been out of the managing game for a while now.

RMD
Y.N.W.A {Ed001's Note - isn't that why we have Steve Clarke and Sammy Lee alongside him? They should be pointing these things out to him. A manager needs assistants he can rely on because even the best are not infallible.}

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 14:40:42
Chaps
I never saw the game yesterday, so can't comment on that directly. But obviously disappointing.
But 6th place is where we are. Some days we're good, others very poor.
That's just how it is. There's no point having a go at Kenny etc.
We all recognised when he came in, and indeed when NESV took over, that it would need time to put right.
So jack in with the Kenny out comments etc eh please.
Let's reinforce well over Summer, start with the ground re-development, and do things right.
KB

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 14:36:20
The team seems fair enough to me , wouldn't bother me tho if we started Kelly ahead of Johnson.
Lucas I'm not a fan of but with them 3 in front of him we don't need any creativity from Lucas. He can help out the defence which he did well yesterday.

LAVERS

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That could be one possibility or stick Kelly instead of buying Cahill. hes big, good while heading and controls his tackles when ive seen him make any. He naturally is a center back.
True say about Lucas, I think he'l do well with width around him. It'l make a great difference with wingers even with Meireles.

Onto the debate about Standard Chartered's Gavin Law's.
I think he was BANG OUT OF ORDER with his comment earlier this week. Not because he's trying to get us sign Asian players but because he came out publicly stating that. He could easily have sat down with Damien Comolli and stated his desires to see us trying to broaden our financial base in Asia not only for SC but also for our own revenue. His claim is worth looking into because Asia do have some brilliant players e.g Honda, Lee Chung Yong (Bolton) etc.
The fact he made this announcement in the media is something that annoyed me deeply.
RedSox69

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 14:24:58
Nice on editors! Piss off the best poster on the site!
Jesus mate - you want this to be a great forum and yet you lose someone who makes me want to check in and read every day. So tell me where you're posting now Steve cos I want to read more of your stuff.
Unbelievable bad way of handling this.
Tony 10 {Ed001's Note - if a poster wants to throw their toys out of the pram because one of their posts is not posted that is their problem. We can't accept all submissions, he has already had it explained that he is posting stuff that is unacceptable. The site is what it is because we don't allow anything and everything to get posted.}

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 14:26:40
Steve Parker {Ed001's Note - I see you will put your name to this but not to your little tantrums and digs up above.}

Well you've got me on this message because I don't understand it! {Ed001's Note - it was the same IP.}

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 14:18:41
Reina

Johnson Cahill Agger Baines

Lucas

Johnson Gerrard Dzsudzsak

Carroll Suarez

What you lot think?

RedSox69

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The team seems fair enough to me , wouldn't bother me tho if we started Kelly ahead of Johnson.
Lucas I'm not a fan of but with them 3 in front of him we don't need any creativity from Lucas. He can help out the defence which he did well yesterday.

LAVERS

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 14:23:56
Like you Blair Mayne I wonder what is in the minds of some LFC fans. 5th Jan 2011 I stood watching my beloved LFC being tonked by an under strength Blackburn. I was not thinking about Europe or 6th place just avoiding relegation. Under Hodgson we had no hope.

Since Kenny has returned he has galvanised the club from the top to the bottom. Everyone from Academy and first team are working together. The few quality players we have shown what it is means playing for this great club. However sadly for Kenny the squad is full of poor quality. When we have to play these players it shows in our performances.

Kenny is not stupid he will know which players to buy in the summer. Players that will add quality, players that will be 'Liverpool' players. Suarez is a great example. Carroll will also when fit. As for the future he will bring back progression from within. Players like Carragher will play a part in future management, Hyypia as well.

Thinking about yesterdays defeat feels a whole lot different to the 5th Jan

Redfish

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 14:08:37
03 Apr 2011 13:56:15
Living in the dark ages mate. your the sort of bloke still thinking football is all beer and meat pies and players cycling to the game. wheres the money coming from to pay gerrard and suarez £100,000 a week? you wanna pay more for a ticket rather than have sponsorship?
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So you would be happy with Mr Gavin Laws (Standered Chartered) picking our players? Like i harshly said to Steve Parker, Mr Laws said we are a "mid-table team" and i asked Steve "did he fully agree with him" which i know now, i worded it wrong.

If you're out there Steve i asked you that because i couldn't believe you missed it. Or you just didn't want to acknowledge it. Either way mate you left it out of your posts about Standered Chartered and the lovable Mr Laws.

Again i'll say it. It's got f*ck all to do with Standered Chartered what players we should be looking at. They are bankers and i do mean bankers, not football scouts.

Blair Mayne YNWA
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I responded in detail yesterday.
It was ignored and not posted by the editors.
I will confine myself to reading and not posting from now on.

Steve Parker {Ed001's Note - I see you will put your name to this but not to your little tantrums and digs up above.}

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 14:09:40
Sad to read fans calling for a new manager, yes we have had a poor result, but calling for kenny to be replaced is wrong, most fans knew 4th was going to be a near miracle, 6th was best we could really achieve with the squad, i'm sure kenny knows how to improve our team, i look forward to next season, perhaps a year out of europe will be a blessing.

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 14:13:11
What makes his absence even harder is the fact we have no decent cover for him. This is akin to a disaster. We are currently using Kyriagos as Agger's back up. It is a well known fact that when the greek and Skrtel are paired together we are about as solid as jelly. Add into this mix, Carra struggling with losing the only 2 yards of pace he ever had and we have three CB's who when on the ball only have the hoof as a decent defensive release.


Bob the Red
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Totally agree Bob , but the way I see it, if we have a like for like replacement, then we can risk him, if he gets injured , then someone from the bench can come in for him and the system is not disrupted.
The thing is the club have a junior Agger in Ayala, it might be too late to call him for the rest of this season, but I hope the powers that be understand we need to keep Ayala in our squad as Aggers cover, because most likely he will be needed in most games.
Roy

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 14:13:36
Dear Eds
This is just a therputic rant/ moan! When SG is out, the lack of creation in midfield is glaringly obvious to all of us Reds. Comoli is (probably) aware of this. Suarez and Carroll need the ammonition to fire and yet somehow we tend to trip over our own feet! We need backups that are capable of covering when needed. Kenny can not be blamed for yesterday. It's almost like a jinx of some kind that each time we begin to get things right, something or other tends to happen, be it injuries, missed chances or bad decision by officials.
Sorry about this Eds, just needed a word of comfort and optimism from you guys! !
Many thanks
Red Tam (London) {Ed001's Note - we do have Meireles, who can play a similar role to Stevie, but he was needed on the flanks yesterday. We desperately need to reinforce the wings so we can stop having to put central players out there to cover.}

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 14:01:16
I didn't watch the match or highlights yesterday. So i obviously have no opinion on the game. But i take it we didn't play well?

To everyone saying we are crap, Kenny isn't good enough etc. Please take this on board, we will not finish 5th. We will finish 6th because that's were we deserve to finish. We have the 6th best squad in the PL after Spuds, Chelski, Man'ure, City and Arsenal.

We had our worse start in 55 years, so be thankful we are even 6th.

Blair Mayne YNWA

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Well said Blair, in particular the last statement, we had a very bad start , and we should give Kenny credit for steadying the ship and getting us back up to 6th. No one would have expected Birmingham to win the carling cup, and deny us a European place.

For your benefit Blair, yesterday we did not play well, but we only lost the game due to 2 very bad defensive mistakes by one player, resulting on 2 penalties.What I mean to say, we could've got a result even with bad play, if it was not for Soto.
Roy

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 13:56:15
Living in the dark ages mate. your the sort of bloke still thinking football is all beer and meat pies and players cycling to the game. wheres the money coming from to pay gerrard and suarez £100,000 a week? you wanna pay more for a ticket rather than have sponsorship?
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So you would be happy with Mr Gavin Laws (Standered Chartered) picking our players? Like i harshly said to Steve Parker, Mr Laws said we are a "mid-table team" and i asked Steve "did he fully agree with him" which i know now, i worded it wrong.

If you're out there Steve i asked you that because i couldn't believe you missed it. Or you just didn't want to acknowledge it. Either way mate you left it out of your posts about Standered Chartered and the lovable Mr Laws.

Again i'll say it. It's got f*ck all to do with Standered Chartered what players we should be looking at. They are bankers and i do mean bankers, not football scouts.

Blair Mayne YNWA

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 13:58:39
I'm going to say something a little controversial but hear me out before going off on one.

Daniel Agger should have played his last game for Liverpool yesterday. It's time to collect coin and haul him out of the club.

He is without a shadow of a doubt, the best defender we have. When he plays, not only does he make Skrtel look half decent, we actually look a solid and sound defensive unit. He is a fantastic football playing centre half, so why should we get rid of him?

At this moment in time, Agger actually serves us a dis-service. Whenever he is picked to play from the start, it is a gamble as too whether he will actually last the course of the game. The biggest, single disruption you can have in a team is in the back four and to one of your centre backs. If you have one that is so prone to breaking down he actually starts to become a liability to the team.

This is where we are with Agger. I think he has had the time to prove that his injuries are just one of those things, but they are not. He is injury prone.

What makes his absence even harder is the fact we have no decent cover for him. This is akin to a disaster. We are currently using Kyriagos as Agger's back up. It is a well known fact that when the greek and Skrtel are paired together we are about as solid as jelly. Add into this mix, Carra struggling with losing the only 2 yards of pace he ever had and we have three CB's who when on the ball only have the hoof as a decent defensive release.

Yet again yesterday we struggled when Agger went off, thanks to Capello as well for playing Johnson for 180 mins and it became a double whammy. I was quite comfortable with Agger on Odemwingie. I ripped my betting ticket up when Kyriagos came on. He shouldn't get into Blackpool's leaky defense let alone our squad.

So we either have to get two class CB's in and get rid of the greek or a third and release Agger.

At the end of the day, he could be the best defender in the World but that is of no use whatsoever if he's always in the physio's room and when he's out on the pitch, he causes more disruption to our team than anything the opposition does.

PS I'm a massive Agger fan. But the bigger picture cannot be ignored.

Bob the Red

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 13:48:35
Why do we need a new CB, we have wilson, kelly and ayalla 3 young lads all gaining experience this year a LB is what we need and more creativaty in midfield/ wings plus 1 more top striker

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 13:45:17
I can't help but think we would have won 1-0 yesterday if we had Ayala to take off the bench when Agger got injured. But. . we had Soto.

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 13:45:47
I didn't watch the match or highlights yesterday. So i obviously have no opinion on the game. But i take it we didn't play well?

To everyone saying we are crap, Kenny isn't good enough etc. Please take this on board, we will not finish 5th. We will finish 6th because that's were we deserve to finish. We have the 6th best squad in the PL after Spuds, Chelski, Man'ure, City and Arsenal.

We had our worse start in 55 years, so be thankful we are even 6th.

Blair Mayne YNWA

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 13:42:34
Why are people now turning on Kenny? Okay we had a bad game, but. before Christmas, we would have been expecting to get beat. . Now we're expecting wins. This has been Liverpool for the last decade. struggling against the poorer teams! Before he came in we we're worried about being in a relegation battle, now we're talking about a chance (although small) of top 5. We all know the squad is in dire need of changes and improved back up options. Most other teams could afford to drop a striker from the team, we lost one when we needed another two anyway. (we got the two but the lost the one).
Maybe he won't get the job full time, but I think we should all be grateful for him stepping in for the club he loves in its time of need, and be hoping that this club idol and legend can be the man we need to take us forward!

El Diablo!

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 13:29:10
Living in the dark ages mate. your the sort of bloke still thinking football is all beer and meat pies and players cycling to the game. wheres the money coming from to pay gerrard and suarez £100,000 a week? you wanna pay more for a ticket rather than have sponsorship? {Ed001's Note - the Dark Ages? Didn't I just say we needed sponsorship to pay the wages? Before you criticise others perhaps you should take the time to understand their beliefs in future.}

Being an editor don't mean you know as much as you think mate. you slag off sponsors and call them evil but it's people like you that also slag off the people in boxes. some sort of superfan then? {Ed001's Note - again criticising from a position of ignorance. You know nothing about me yet are jumping on my back over nothing. Don't waste my time with your nonsense, thanks.}

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 13:31:14
Because of our defensive crisis with
KELLY, AGGER, AURLIEO and JOHNSON all injured we are only left with CARRA, SOTO, WILSON and SKERTL would we/ could we call AYALA or KONCHESKY back from loan?

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 13:22:52
Right ive had enough.

One moment when we beat man u 3-1 and gets us up to 6th from the relegation soon you say hes going to deliver us the title etc.

The minute we loose a game we should replace him? Grow up you win some you loose some.

We left king kenny behind we are not looking back we are just picking up something we left behind so belt up and enjoy the ride.

King kenny is the man to bring us back to the glory days.

Tom P.

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 13:16:19
{Ed001's Note - I really couldn't give a monkey's to be honest. All they are is a name on the front of the shirt, nothing more, nothing less. They, and anything they have to say, is of no consequence to me to be perfectly honest.}

but you're happy to take the sponsorship money?! ! {Ed001's Note - no, I would rather sponsorships weren't needed, but we have to pay the player's wages somehow. They are an unfortunate, if necessary, evil, and I do mean evil.}

Living in the dark ages mate. your the sort of bloke still thinking football is all beer and meat pies and players cycling to the game. wheres the money coming from to pay gerrard and suarez £100,000 a week? you wanna pay more for a ticket rather than have sponsorship? {Ed001's Note - the Dark Ages? Didn't I just say we needed sponsorship to pay the wages? Before you criticise others perhaps you should take the time to understand their beliefs in future.}

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 13:00:40
Alright guys

Poor result yest, but two penalties what can I say!
We all know KK appointment was not going to be a over night miracle. We do have some carp players who any otherday would not be entertained by LFC. So regardless of our league position at the end of the summer, I think we can all look forward to an exciting transfer window, hopefully deals done sooner rather than leaving us on tenterhooks.

I still smh at those that fell for the April fools joke and demanded KK replacement. Tut tut tut

On a final note perhaps LFC had a gentlemens agreement with RH to let him beat us in his first game against us? lol


Lee73

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 13:01:50
SURELY IF KK has started buildin the squad shouldnt he be there next season example:why would he buy carroll if he was only temporary only 1 out of 10 managers would use CARROLL

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 13:06:58
{Ed001's Note - I really couldn't give a monkey's to be honest. All they are is a name on the front of the shirt, nothing more, nothing less. They, and anything they have to say, is of no consequence to me to be perfectly honest.}

but you're happy to take the sponsorship money?! ! ! ! {Ed001's Note - no, I would rather sponsorships weren't needed, but we have to pay the player's wages somehow. They are an unfortunate, if necessary, evil, and I do mean evil.}

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 12:44:21
We need at least 1 more world class CB and the reason are:-
1. Carragher is not that young anymore.
2. Agger is fantastic but he is so injury prone.
3.Kyrgiakos is too slow and definitely not good enough.
4. wilson need at least one more season to really adjust to the pace of PL
Do you agree eds? ? {Ed001's Note - pretty much, though I remain unconvinced by Wilson, though hopefully he can turn out to be a top defender with the right coaching.}

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 12:45:46
Ed,

Who do standard chartered think they are saying they want us to buy asian players and saying they expect our players to behave in accordance to their corporate rules?

1 players should be signed on ability and potential on the field regardless of nationality religion etc and commercial exploitation

2 the day banks tell people who to behave is the day the world has gone too far down the road of stupidity

I find these statements from SC a scandlous overstepping of the mark {Ed001's Note - I really couldn't give a monkey's to be honest. All they are is a name on the front of the shirt, nothing more, nothing less. They, and anything they have to say, is of no consequence to me to be perfectly honest.}

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 12:49:51
No Ed your wrong there is a picture of Carroll, Gerrard and Suarez wearing the full kit and it is plain black and only bears the club crest.

Its a bold design possibly a grower

RUBBER BANDIT {Ed001's Note - or perhaps you could try reading the piece about how it is not going to be revealed until the 14th April before shouting your mouth off telling me I am wrong?}

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 12:40:53
Guys has anyone seen the new away kit avialable for pre order on official site?

Its a wierd one plain back and no sponsorship on it.

Does anyone know why standard chartered arent on the shirt?

I don't know if I like it or not but ill still buy it.

RUBBER BANDIT {Ed001's Note - it is a blank, the actual design has yet to be revealed.}

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 12:34:45
I don't see why people want us to rush some of the youngsters into the first team, I have seen some of their games on TV and they need more time in the youth squad. If we rush them into the first team and it does not work for them it will be detremental for them, The reason that the likes of Cole, jovanovic are not getting more games is because they are not good enough, and that is why Kenny plays the same team because he has no other choice. Ross

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You make a good point about the youngsters, I think at times people forget the massive massive step up from performing at youth level against other youth teams and the level and standard of the Premier league.

L1

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 12:27:57
Guys a few points to consider if you will. . .

1. .KK is in temporary charge till the end of the season! If the owners believed in him 100% they would have given him a 2 yr deal by now. I think this is a good move as it gives them a bit more time to assess his tactics etc. I'm not sure if KK is the man to take the club forward over the next few seasons myself and there may be some good young managers available in the summer.

OH whats this KK not the messiah after all? ? ye liverfool fans r pathetic only a couple of weeks ago he was the man that was goin to win EPL next year, now all of a sudden ye r not so sure n think he is tactically inept well all of us at OT did try n warn ye of his track record ha ha

Red Knight

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 12:12:58
Just my opinions.- Kenny has done a great job, he has given us back a bit of pride but I do not think he is the long term answer and would like to see a change in the summer. Also I would unload Agger (to fragile) Soto, Poulsen, Maxi, Jova, Ngog, Insua, Aqualani, and possibly Skyrtle and Lucas. Skyrtle if we can get 2 cb, s in and Lucas I think is a decent squad player but not effective enough to play regularly in the Prem.
We need possibly 2 CB, s a left back, CMF and a winger or two.
If we can get decent players in these positions Kuyt and Cole may also be surplus to requirements.
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King Kenny will most likely get a 2 year contract, and fully deserved! If we keep improving next season then I'm sure it'll be extended. If we don't quite improve and don't look like getting into the top four (within the 2 years) then FSG will probably look to part ways. Personally I think we should offer Agger a new contract, but when he's not available to play his wages should temporarily be cut. His name is Skrtel and I don't think he should be offloaded, he's a solid defender and a good squad player! Lucas has only just signed a new contract, NO CHANCE. Kenny will keep Cole and Kuyt as good squad players. Kuyt as also recently signed a new contract.

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 11:53:32
03 Apr 2011 11:19:07
I think being realistic 30-40mil should be a reasonable transfer budget , plus player sales.

Taking into account FSG didn't spend any money in Jan with the sale of torres.

With this id hope we buy 4-5 players that's it , I don't want us falling into our usual trap of buying 7-8 average players for 5mil each.

It's going to take a few years to get a good squad but 1st things 1st we need a top starting 11.


LAVERS

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I noticed some disagrees to my post which is fair enough.
But what are other peoples thoughts.

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I think that we have a first 11 that can compete with any other team as has been proven when playing Chelsea & Man Utd. What we do lack is depth which is blatantly obvious when we have injuries to Gerrard, Kelly, Agger & Johnson etc. We haven't got the players to come in & do a job for us while these are out. I really can't see what some fans are moaning about when we get beat without 4/ 5 players. I think since Kenny has come in the results have been outstanding considering what he's had to work with. I don't know how much money it will take to rebuild our team but I do know that there is 8/ 10 players we could easily get rid off & I wouldn't bat an eyelid, The Greek, Jova, Konch, Poulsen, Aqua, Insua, Maxi (possibly), Skrtle (possible), plus others out on loan & some reserve players. Big job ahead in the summer.

The Irish Rover

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 11:51:06
I think ian ayre and comollis first signing in the summer should be a new manager for the long term nothing against k d sure hes a good motivator but tactically i don't think hes up to it makes subs to late in the game if at all and seems to pick the same players most of the time when its obvious the team arent playing well except for a few good results ie man utd we are still playing crap disjointed football also needs to give players a fair go joe cole jovanovic pacheco (on loan) suso sterling lets be honest they couldnt do any worse than what we have witnessed of late we, ll never no if these youngsters are going to be god enough if they don't get a chance.then you get the punits on lfc tv saying how do you fit these players into the first team sqaud easy spearing out kuyt out play meireles in with lucas sterling on the right hand side with johnson for support play suarez on the left so he can cut inside ala messi style with joe cole in behind carroll can't be any worse at least sterling would get some croosses in to carroll more than kuyt would who by the way couldnt crooss his legs

reina

johnson carra sktrel wilson

sterling lucas meireles suarez

cole
carroll
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I don't see why people want us to rush some of the youngsters into the first team, I have seen some of their games on TV and they need more time in the youth squad. If we rush them into the first team and it does not work for them it will be detremental for them, The reason that the likes of Cole, jovanovic are not getting more games is because they are not good enough, and that is why Kenny plays the same team because he has no other choice. Ross

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 11:51:25
It's going to take a few years to get a good squad but 1st things 1st we need a top starting 11.


LAVERS

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LAVERS, I completely agree with your post. Too many seasons have gone by and we've constantly bought players who aren't first team material, only end up making numbers on the bench.
A good squad is not built over one season, it takes two or three considering those players who'l take time to adapt, gel with each other and develop into first team players. We should not buy players and stick them into the first team when we think they WILL develop soon enough.
Positions that need urgent filling in the first team? Well in my opinion we only need 3 players to come straight into the first XI.
Left Back: As I said previously, Johnson has played in this position but it is NOT his natural one. He still continues to do brilliantly with England when hes got an actual right winger ahead of him and not Kuyt. He is compelled to run forward when no-one provides width causing space for the opposition to attack. Stick him back to right back and go for a top left back.
I'd be happy to take any one of Enrique, BAINES, Coentrao, Ansaldi. All realistic and between £8-20 Million (Coentrao)
Left Midfield: I don't even need to explain why we need this position filled. We haven't had a single left midfielder who impresses with dribbling skill, pace and pinpoint crosses. Kewell played good for a while, then flopped. Riera had couple of good performances when he occupied the role but again, didn't stand out.
I'd be happy to take any one of DZSUDZSAK, Greizmann, Perotti, Turan, Jarvis. All realistic and approximately £12-16 Million.
Right midfield: Again, no need to stress the importance. Kuyt is NOT a right midfielder nor is Meireles. Go all out for wingers and make sure we get good ones. Pace, trickery and precise deliveries.
I'd be happy to take: Young, ADAM JOHNSON, Gervinho, any others? All realistic and would command about £20 Million with the exception of Gervinho lol.
Now these players should come straight into the first team. There are other positions that are debatable. Such as, centre back? Carraghers getting old, Krygiakos is just not worthy, Skrtel is good but inconsistent and Agger probably our best defender too injury prone. However, with Johnson back at right back, Kelly should be given the chance to shine in a position that gave him the call-up in the first place. Ayala coming back from loan too.
My personal choice would be Cahill.
Defense Midfield is also a slight concern but I believe with a strong back four and wingers on either side, Lucas will excel even more at this position as he won't be caught too much and will be able to control it just fine.
Another striker will definately be added to the list and I'm not too fussed with this, only that he should be proven to score in whatever league he is in, quick and strong unlike Ngog.
Thats about it really.
Possible formation taking into account players that have been put in capital letters lol.
Reina
Johnson Cahill Agger Baines
Lucas
Johnson Gerrard Dzsudzsak
Carroll Suarez
What you lot think?
RedSox69

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 11:49:43
There are plenty of quality players in the lower teams and if relegated will be avaidable at a lower price:

wigan - moses, mcarthy, n'zogbia
west ham - tomkins, parker, cole, ba
wolves - hennessey
blackpool - adam
villa - young, downing, bent, albrighton, clark, delfounso, agbonlahor, warnock
birmingham - dann, foster
blackburn - p.jones

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 11:50:42
Hi wot do u think about renato augusto, hernanes and thaigo heleno and leandro- the 1 that played against scotland

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 11:31:33
Guys a few points to consider if you will. . .

1. .KK is in temporary charge till the end of the season! If the owners believed in him 100% they would have given him a 2 yr deal by now. I think this is a good move as it gives them a bit more time to assess his tactics etc. I'm not sure if KK is the man to take the club forward over the next few seasons myself and there may be some good young managers available in the summer. .

2. .We all know we need a big transfer window but so do most clubs as with the uefa financial restrictions as from nxt season. This may be the last real oportunity to blow cash they can't make back in revenue so expect a busy summer all over europe.

3. . Transfers. .OMG we need a big window especially outgoings. . . . Liverpool have the highest percentage in Europe of expatriate players within their squad, measuring 90%. ( BBC Sport website)

At the end of every transfer window we need 8 players in 25man squad to be classed as homegrown. .So expect. Cahill, Young, Wickham, baines type of signings ahead of any foreign eqiuvelent. If there foreign they have to be world class cos i expect a lot of world class players to be moving in the summer.

ED's and reds how do you think the new eufa rules will effect our great club? ? {Ed001's Note - we don't need 8 home grown players, but we can only have 17 non-homegrown as a maximum in our 25 man squad. The new UEFA rules will make no real difference to us as our owners intend to make the club pay for its own transfers regardless of the rules.}

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 11:43:41
What about that, bench full of first teamers players who can change the game, unlike ngog and poulson!


DannyS

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Thanks for the input Danny. Don't think we can really look at buying players hoping they can challenge for a 1st team spot.
We need players straight into the starting 11 I think if we mess up in this window come next summer it will be suarez wanting out.

LAVERS

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 11:29:58
I think being realistic 30-40mil should be a reasonable transfer budget , plus player sales.

Taking into account FSG didn't spend any money in Jan with the sale of torres.

With this id hope we buy 4-5 players that's it , I don't want us falling into our usual trap of buying 7-8 average players for 5mil each.

It's going to take a few years to get a good squad but 1st things 1st we need a top starting 11.


LAVERS

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I noticed some disagrees to my post which is fair enough.
But what are other peoples thoughts.

Lavers, I agree we shouldn't buy average players this includes frees (There Free for a reason! !)

I feel we need at least 7 players with 40m plus 30m from selling deadwood

Sell:
Jones-1m
Degan-2m
Darby-0.25m
Kyrgiakos-1m
Aurelio-1m
Insua-3m
Konchesky-2m
Jovanovic-4m
Maxi-3m
Poulson-3m
Spearing-1m
Irwin-0.25m
El Zhar-0.5m
Ngog-4m

=27m

Buy:
Hennessey/ Stockdale
Cahill/ Dann/ Sakho/ Musacchino
Baines/ Enrique/ Izaguirre/ Coentrao
Young/ A.Johnson/ Gervinho/ Perotti
Adam/ M'vila/ Gago/ Canales
Dzsudzsak/ Downing/ Jarvis/ Turan
Bojan/ Wickham/ Toivonen/ Muinain

My Prefrence:

Reina
Johnson-Cahill-Agger-Baines
Young-Gerrard-Adam-Dzsudzsak
Carroll-Suarez

Hennessey
Carrgher, Skrtel, Kelly
Meireles, Cole, Lucas
Kuyt, Bojan

Gulasci, Hansen
Flanagan, Wilson, Ayala, Wisdom, Coady, Robinson
Amoo, Shelvey, Ince, Suso, Sterling, Bruna
Pacheco, Eccleston

what about that, bench full of first teamers players who can change the game, unlike ngog and poulson!

DannyS

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I noticed some disagrees to my post which is fair enough.
But what are other peop

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 11:19:07
I think being realistic 30-40mil should be a reasonable transfer budget , plus player sales.

Taking into account FSG didn't spend any money in Jan with the sale of torres.

With this id hope we buy 4-5 players that's it , I don't want us falling into our usual trap of buying 7-8 average players for 5mil each.

It's going to take a few years to get a good squad but 1st things 1st we need a top starting 11.


LAVERS

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I noticed some disagrees to my post which is fair enough.
But what are other peoples thoughts.

LAVERS

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 11:06:16
So frustrating seeing Carra hoof it 60 yards to Carroll every time he got the ball. I can't wait 'til next season when we should have 2 bombing wingers stretching the opposition, which will create space for our 2 CMs so Carra can play it simple. Marc Albrighton & Adam Johnson please!

Stone.

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 11:06:56
After todays game does any other liverpool supporter agree that kenny isn't up to the job and that if we want to move foward we need a current successful manager and a new face mite attract new players? hiddink or boas for example wat u tink eds?

{Ed002's Note - I steer clear of this question. I was never convinced that Dalglish is a good long-term solution - but in the short-term it was absolutely the right change to make.}

I have to disagree I believe that Dalglish has just been very unfortunate with the defence that he has inherited and probably thought they were not a priority unlike getting a whole new attack force but unfortunately the defence is a complete joke.We have good defenders but they are the most inconsistent bunch of players I have ever watched.

Johnson- Is better as a lb than rb but was injured.

Carragher- is prone to making a foul becoz he lacks pace

Agger- good all rounder but looks for a decent partner

Wilson- I like him and really thought he was making the team but was out for the wba match

Kyrgiakos-Good on his day but again to quick to stick out a leg when he is out of his comfort zone

Skrtel-Another good defender on his day but a good game here a bad game there is not the consistency you rely on in the prem

Our defence needs some serious work and I believe Kenny is the right guy just give him some time to gel the backline like he has the attack

RED WILLY

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 10:48:43
I notice from a previous post. We lose a game to West Brom, granted we should'nt BUT to start getting the Kenny isn't up to the job idiots on here.
Lets look at the state of play
- maybe he isn't the answer long term
- two substitutions (GJ/ DA) in first half. This is a point that is needed.
Johnson Injured
Kelly Injured
Agger Injured

Soto replaces Agger, the guy I havent got anything against, but he was skinned for the first pen, all game skinned, second goal he was skinned, resulting in Reina having to make the contact. . . .
- Gerrard Injured

The squad we have Central defenders and full backs is weak
Having Lucas and Spearing in Midfield is just asking to be beaten! The team has been lacking quality since Alonso and Mash left and never been replaced because the prev owners used the sales money for loan repayments. The Jan tfr window brought us two top strikers which we needed, you can't build/ replace a team in the tfr window in Jan. It will take time, but Dalglish has done well, united the club, fans and brought confidence back to the squad. We were above the relegation zone when he came in.
Nobody knows what is going on behind the scenes, all these so called "in the know, Inside sources etc". Lets trust the club and the people who run it! Whether KK gets a contract, who knows, but he has done brilliantly so far with a carp squad. .

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 10:54:01
Let's be fair fans we have to say that this season has been a right of. We have struggled to badly against poor teams when they have parked the bus. When its open game away from home we are positive and its a good game. But its all not doom and gloom from this season. 3 massive areas that will stand us in good stead next year.even if we are not involved in Europe.
1. New owners who are positive but not reckless
2. The return of ling kenny will hopefully results in a permanent stay.
3. Signings of saurez and Carroll.

With a good budget in the summer and clearance of deadwood we can be hopeful for next year.areas of improvement For next year.

lb- baines, coentrao Out- all the left backs.promote Robinson
cb-cahill Out- Greek (worst player ever in lfc shirt) promote wisdom.
dm-mvilla, parker Out- poulsen. promote coady
3 wingers
1. young- class act to replace maxi
2. Dzuskacs- very direct to replace Cole
3. Johnson- maybe getable depends on city activity replace jova
4. Jarvis- loves crossing ball
5. Jeffren- does the unexpected
Promote sterling and suso for odd appearances
Young striker- wickham, lakaku to replace ngog.

Squad for next year. . . 4-4-2
Gk- reina, gulacsi
Rb-Johnson, kelly and flanagan
Lb-baines/ coentrao, Robinson
Cb-carra, agger, skrtel, cahill, Wilson, wisdom
Lw- young/ jarvis/ Jeffren, sterling
Rw- Johnson/ Dzuskacs, kuyt suso
Dm- mvila, lucas, coady
Cm- gerrard, meiralles, shelvey
Am- meiralles, pacheco, suso ( if change in formation)
St- carroll, saurez, wickham/ lakaku, eccleston

Now this a squad that cam challenge in the premier league. Not saying this squad is capable of winning league but can certainly challenge.for Europe.

it has experience and potential with good quality youngster backing up. its a massive building process in the next few years but we will rise again to dominate. believe in lfc.

ynwa

messi twin bro

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 10:37:21
I think ian ayre and comollis first signing in the summer should be a new manager for the long term nothing against k d sure hes a good motivator but tactically i don't think hes up to it makes subs to late in the game if at all and seems to pick the same players most of the time when its obvious the team arent playing well except for a few good results ie man utd we are still playing crap disjointed football also needs to give players a fair go joe cole jovanovic pacheco (on loan) suso sterling lets be honest they couldnt do any worse than what we have witnessed of late we, ll never no if these youngsters are going to be god enough if they don't get a chance.then you get the punits on lfc tv saying how do you fit these players into the first team sqaud easy spearing out kuyt out play meireles in with lucas sterling on the right hand side with johnson for support play suarez on the left so he can cut inside ala messi style with joe cole in behind carroll can't be any worse at least sterling would get some croosses in to carroll more than kuyt would who by the way couldnt crooss his legs

reina

johnson carra sktrel wilson

sterling lucas meireles suarez

cole
carroll

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 10:18:33
Hey Ed I know Arda Turan has been talked about a lot on here and it seems our interest has cooled but do you agree that he would definitely be an improvement in terms of quality but more importantly he wants to come! That would mean so much to the club at the moment and I hope he is our first summer signing

Chris in Tamworth {Ed001's Note - I can only think that the club feels he is too weak to make it in the Prem and trust in their judgement.}

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 10:08:11
Can't believe people are now wanting kenny out.what is wrong with you all since kenny has come in our results(i know we've losted 3 poor matches and also limped out of europa) would put us challenging for the title if it wasn't for our awful start to the season.i believe with all the injuries in our defence we may start lose a few til the end of season but that's hardly kk fault and you never know the mighty reds may well surprize us and go on a unbeaten run and catch spuds up(who ain't inform themselves). keep the faith people

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 10:05:11
The result against west Brom yesterday was very poor, and we didn't deserve anything from the game, I can't believe that people now want Kenny replaced, what do you expect with the current squad, we have some great strikers, we lost Johnson and Agger early in the match, so it was always going to be hard, There needs to be investment in the team, and need to get rid of the dead wood which we have bought over the years. This season was always going to be difficult due to what has happened, people need to be more realistic and we have to build for next season and hope that we can add those quality players to make us more competitive and get us back into the top 4 again. Ross

{Ed002's Note - A lot of what people are saying is that Roy Hodgson was forced out by poor performances when he had a lesser squad - no Carroll and no Suarez. It does not seem to be the loss that is the issue but the means of the loss with the club having moved toward a long-ball game. It is not the time to get on the manager's back but the time to support the club and get through what is left of a disrupted and poor season.}
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The problem is we don't have any creative or wide players in midfield, so we are falling into the trap of just hoofing it to Carroll, Kenny has never really played that style when he was manager at Liverpool the first time, and I expect that to change in the summer when we buy some more players, I agree with you Ed that people need to get behind the team, and stop moaning about it. The club was on the decline until FSG bought the club and things are looking much better, they are willing to invest in the team, and looking at the stadium issues, but yet people expect Kenny to come in and wave his wand and for us to be back in the title race with a very average team. We have to be realistic and realise that it is going to take time. Roy was never good enough to manage a top club. Ross

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 10:05:23
According to the s*n, liverpol are going to bid 15mil. for Leighton baines. Ed what's ur view {Ed001's Note - if the S*n told me it was raining I would take me coat off and leave it at home.}

thats funny never new they did the s*n on s*ndays?

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 09:46:28
Ed last year we finiah7th and still play in europa league(that's due to portsmouth) but why we can't play in europeby finishing 6th.

{Ed002's Note - The places are assigned to 5th in the league; FA Cup Winners (or runners up if the winners have already qualified for Europe) and Carling Cup winners. Last season: Manchester City were 5th; Chelsea won the FA Cup but Portsmouth were excluded as they did not have a UEFA licence - letting in Aston Villa in 6th place in the league; Manchester United won the Carling Cup and Aston Villa were rummers up - so Liverpool qualified by being 7th in the league. This season, it is likely that Spurs or Manchester City will be fifth, Birmingham have qualified from teh Carling Cup and Bolton or Stoke will qualify from the FA cup. So sixth in the league will not qualify.}

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 09:46:34
Ed, did you saw Pacheco against Sc**thrope for Norwich. He looked quite lively and played brilliantly well. I hope he is staying with us for long-term. he is absolutely a class act. YNWA {Ed002's Note - Reportedly had a great game.}

Yes pacheco looked amazing, his first start with players new to him, his passing was amazing, we could do with someone like that playing just off the striker, i so hope they don't let him leave, always thought he should be given a chance especially over cole, spearing even kuyt. This loan should do him good, just hope hes consistent

RED BOB

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 09:50:07
Some of you guys are unbelievable. . one poor result and you don t think the king is up to the job. shame on you. we are liverpool. we stick together. .the king in his short time in charge has transformed us from an embarassment into something like the liverpool of old. lets all back the great man for he will bring us back to greatness. .rant over. YNWA. marco

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 09:50:11
I have told u about baines(acc. to s*n) but i didn't umderstand ur answer. {Ed002's Note - I have no idea what you are talking about.}

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 09:42:30
The result against west Brom yesterday was very poor, and we didn't deserve anything from the game, I can't believe that people now want Kenny replaced, what do you expect with the current squad, we have some great strikers, we lost Johnson and Agger early in the match, so it was always going to be hard, There needs to be investment in the team, and need to get rid of the dead wood which we have bought over the years. This season was always going to be difficult due to what has happened, people need to be more realistic and we have to build for next season and hope that we can add those quality players to make us more competitive and get us back into the top 4 again. Ross

{Ed002's Note - A lot of what people are saying is that Roy Hodgson was forced out by poor performances when he had a lesser squad - no Carroll and no Suarez. It does not seem to be the loss that is the issue but the means of the loss with the club having moved toward a long-ball game. It is not the time to get on the manager's back but the time to support the club and get through what is left of a disrupted and poor season.}

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 09:33:37
Just my opinions.- Kenny has done a great job, he has given us back a bit of pride but I do not think he is the long term answer and would like to see a change in the summer. Also I would unload Agger (to fragile) Soto, Poulsen, Maxi, Jova, Ngog, Insua, Aqualani, and possibly Skyrtle and Lucas. Skyrtle if we can get 2 cb, s in and Lucas I think is a decent squad player but not effective enough to play regularly in the Prem.
We need possibly 2 CB, s a left back, CMF and a winger or two.
If we can get decent players in these positions Kuyt and Cole may also be surplus to requirements.

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 09:34:25
I think being realistic 30-40mil should be a reasonable transfer budget , plus player sales.
Taking into account FSG didn't spend any money in Jan with the sale of torres.
With this id hope we buy 4-5 players that's it , I don't want us falling into our usual trap of buying 7-8 average players for 5mil each.
It's going to take a few years to get a good squad but 1st things 1st we need a top starting 11.

LAVERS

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 09:22:10
Expect up to 7 signings this summer, Kenny and DC have got their knives out and know our squad isn't good enough.

Cahill- fast, good in the air, ball playing CB.
Baines- good crosser, solid defensively, decent pace.
Adam- plug the gap Alonso left us, excellent at set-pieces.
Young- pace, versatile, decent crosser, scores goals.
Dzsudzsak- pace, technical ability, lots of assists and goals.
A.Johnson- pace, trickery, excellent cross in.
Benzema- strong, fast, excellent finisher.

Maxi, Ngog, Jovanovic, Aquilani, Cole, Jones, Pacheco, Degen, El Zhar, Poulsen, Konchesky, Soto, Insua are set to leave.

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 09:03:46
Ed, do you think, there is a good summer ahead for Liverpool. And any thoughts about a cb, being targeted. I think we need it badly, too. with Carragher got old, Agger very much of injury prone and Kyrgiakos, very poor, we have only Skrtel, who is better of all and then wilson and other young players. Do you think, there would be a cb, too or we're going to give youngsters their chances to impress. thanks

{Ed002's Note - There is also Ayala to consider but I do feel that there is a need for a centre back. I don't see any reason why it should not be a good summer but (a) the club are not going to spend £185M or more on players; (b) not being in the Champions League makes it much harder to draw certain players to the club; (b) significantly reduced European revenue for this season and probably none for next season could cost the club £40M or more - this does need to be taken in to account.}

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 09:11:21
I think people need to lay of kenny. Kenny was a class act as a player so do you really think he sees long ball tactics as the way we should be playing.( I doubt it ).
He is using what's at his disposle , I do agree tho that soto shouldn't play again I think its defiantly time to play a youngster.
Spearing and Lucas haven't got an attack in them but in all fairness its not like maxi would Sprint up and down the wing whipping balls into the box is it.
We need players with technical ability its something we've lacked for years , tho with have suarez now.
I was watching lfctv last night cup final against bolton , what a player stevie MAC was.
We need 2 wingers that can go past players , drive into the box and whip balls in.
Whenever we get in the final 3rd were clueless.

LAVERS

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 08:26:57
After todays game does any other liverpool supporter agree that kenny isn't up to the job and that if we want to move foward we need a current successful manager and a new face mite attract new players? hiddink or boas for example wat u tink eds?

{Ed002's Note - I steer clear of this question. I was never convinced that Dalglish is a good long-term solution - but in the short-term it was absolutely the right change to make.}

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Agree 100% with ed here KK came in settled the dressing room and us the supporters, also showing he had the balls to make big changes, stand up to a so called superstar while making all the right noises to the press. He has got as much out of this squad as anyone could of.He has along with the owners made the Liverpool manager job alot more appealing than it was before his tenure. The board got this bang on they installed an idol who can do no wrong, while they take there time to find the right man for job.As Kenny said him self '' the future of this club far more important than mine'' what ever happens KK has shown what a class act he is.
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Kenny deserves a crack at next season on a yearly rolling contract. He deserves the chance to clear out the dross and build his own team and see where that takes us. Its clear we just don't have the players required to provide any consistency to challenge for top 4. I thought his post match comments at West Brom again showed his class. No blame. balanced review of his team and the opposition. Pure class. I love it. While other managers are scratching around for excuses and blaming everyone else kenny takes responsibility where it's due and seeks to provide a balanced and insightful review of what happened on the pitch.

There's not alot he can do when players he is forced into using consistently make mistakes. The half season he has been given is a trial run. FSG wrote this season off with the only caveat to survive and if we had the rub of the green, maybe an outside chance at 4th. . which at xmas wasnt looking likely. We've had an atrocious season and were are still not that far off with our 'poor' squad. He's done a good job. Lets just support him for now. Comments and criticism are welcome and required to ensure a balanced view of things. I for one thought there was way too much unrealistic chirping about ''king kenny, king kenny''. . in fact I hate the word 'king'. I think its stupid. For me its just Kenny or Dalglsih.

He has to be given the chance to build what he has started but only on a year by year agreement until we see what he can do with 'his' team. In 6 months he and John henry et al have rectified many of the issues plaguing the old lady for most of its premiership tenure. Look at the damage done by successive owners and managers. What would you rather have? Stability, a bit of hope and some way more positive football or the dross we have been served since 1993?. obviously the CL, 2nd in the league and Houllier's treble notwithstanding.


irishsimon.

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 08:40:48
Major defence problems now! Soto is s**ep! Wilsons decent come back Kelly fhs.
Kelly carra skrtel Wilson.

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 03:23:35
Skrtel and Kyrgiakos should be sold. Phil Jones should be signed

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 04:05:56
All I can say about yesterdays performance against WBA is. .Kygriakos isn't even Championship standard. Incredibly unlucky with injuries to Johnson and Agger, any indication Ed on who long they'll be out? Johnson's looks like a straight-forward hamstring so probably 3-5 weeks. Agger looks like it could be a ACL injury and they're quite hard to put an estimate on. The next question is. .whats our backline going to look like for the rest of the season?

Carragher - Skrtel - Kygriakos - Wilson

That's the most likely lineup for the next 5 weeks or so but I'd like to see the following:

Ayala - Carragher - Skrtel - Wilson

Give the youngsters a chance to prove themselves for the rest of the season, we don't have much to lose anymore and this could give vital experience to the youngsters.

Whats your opinion on what our backline could be in the absense of 2 of our best defenders?

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 05:40:47
Why the hell is Kenny playing Spearing, with Carroll on the pitch we need people on the wings , Maxi or Cole could have done more good than Spearing (he was decent but not Liverpool Class).
Kenny shouldn't be the long term solution but he needs to be here until we get back on track ( champions league football - 2 more seasons).

Kyrgiakos , he has now cost us more penalty's than any other Liverpool player this season, must leave.
Kenny should buy a New CB both left sided & right sided : my choice is Cahill , we wil face competition from UTD(Carra used as a squad player from next season onwards, Ayala not up to the task yet need premier league experience , Agger getting injured much often, )

@ Sunderland Liverpool won it's because we were lucky & they were awful @ Westbrom they were playing good, + Stupid refreeing.

Need a quality Left back in the summer -can be the Marquee signing, ( Fabio Coentrao for 20 m)
Need three quality wingers ( Maxi , Cole Jova out).
Good backup striker ( Ngog out)
For CM : need a much creative- defensive midfielder like Ever Banega rather than an attacking Midfielder .
Aquilani must not be brought back.
Dont let Pepe Leave for less than 20m.

Useless / deadwood need to be cleared out ( Konchesky, Poulsen, Jova , Cole, Maxi , Spearing, Kyrgiakos, Ngog, Elzahr, Degen, Insua, Aquilani, Jones, Amoo, Derby , Eccleston) = 25 m 40% of Summer budget

My thoughts on Liverpool's current situation. thanks ed's for your work. YNWA

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 07:19:51
Ed, did you saw Pacheco against Sc**thrope for Norwich. He looked quite lively and played brilliantly well. I hope he is staying with us for long-term. he is absolutely a class act. YNWA {Ed002's Note - Reportedly had a great game.}

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 07:57:52
The deficiencies in the squad is very clear - we need a quality LB, CB, LW, RW & a forward. If Kenny doesn't get new recruits for these positions, I'd be really disappointed and raises questions about his tactical nous.

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 01:03:33
I don't know about signing players in the summer to show pepe our intent, the crap way we played today i think it will be more to show suarez our intent, he must be thinking jeez what have i done here,

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 01:36:43
After todays game does any other liverpool supporter agree that kenny isn't up to the job and that if we want to move foward we need a current successful manager and a new face mite attract new players? hiddink or boas for example wat u tink eds?

{Ed002's Note - I steer clear of this question. I was never convinced that Dalglish is a good long-term solution - but in the short-term it was absolutely the right change to make.}

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Agree 100% with ed here KK came in settled the dressing room and us the supporters, also showing he had the balls to make big changes, stand up to a so called superstar while making all the right noises to the press. He has got as much out of this squad as anyone could of.He has along with the owners made the Liverpool manager job alot more appealing than it was before his tenure. The board got this bang on they installed an idol who can do no wrong, while they take there time to find the right man for job.As Kenny said him self '' the future of this club far more important than mine'' what ever happens KK has shown what a class act he is.

GYRED

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 01:37:37
Ed002 the facts speak for themselves until today's game King Kenny has had a 60% win percentage and the best points record in so many games since taking over. So I think that answers your question of whether Kenny is up to the job, clearly another foreign manager is not the answer especially that special no-one.

Black Red

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 00:50:53
These players will leave lfc in the summer:

Christian poulson, fabio auralio, joe cole, maxi rodriquez, milan jovanovic, philip degan, nabil el zhar, soto the greek defender, paul konchesky, emilliano insua, alberto aquilani, david ngog, martin skrtel.

jamie carragher will be used more as a back-up player next season.
Steven Gerrard will be used more as a back-up player next season.

Regarding players coming in, lfc are going to find it hard to sign top players if indeed we don't get european football next season.

Expect daniel pacheco to be first choice for lfc Next season if the loan spell proves succesful, the club will give him the opportunity to prove himself.
Im not going to try and guess on who's coming in to lfc but i can say that who ever does will need to slot straight in the first 11.
lfcjohnynwa

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 00:12:55
As much as i love kk, if we are chasing the win did he wait till 90mins to bring cole on, should have done it much earlier either cole or even ngog, and just attack, just can't understand,

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 00:26:45
Hi current Ed,
Ed 002 said that Nuri Sahin was in the mould of Meireles/ Ramires. Does this mean he is poor defensively? {Ed002's Note - No. This is the problem of trying to satisfy people's needs for comparisons.}

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 00:44:21
"You are quite the tool my friend"

Actually re-read my post, and i actually disagree with my source. He just asked me to post it as he is not at liberty to do so. It is Lucas Silva, although i think one of the Ed's confirmed that.
I never even suggested we would get any of them. Sanchez may well go to Manchester City. I never said he wouldn't. Neymar's decision is his to make, so stop narrowing his options down to 3 clubs when you don't even know him. I only said he was being watched. Pastore does have a huge buy out clause. It is rumoured to be anywhere between 50m euro's and 100m euros. Only person who knows for sure is him and his agent and Palermo. Look it up if you don't believe me. I'll average it at 75m euros if you want? Lamela will spark a bidding war with the talent he has, so £10m may well be the FIRST bid. Lucas Silva is a class act, but his price tag is just unreasonable imo. £80m is stupid money. Ronaldo Cash for an unproven lightweight Brazilian prodigy, who apparently you haven't even heard of.

 

 

 

 

02 Apr 2011 23:59:01
Pacheco really looked the business for norwich today, can't wait to see him back in a liverpool shirt!

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 00:01:09
Next Season hopefully: -
- - - - - - - - - - - Reina- - - - - - - - - - -
- Johnson- Kelly/ Skrtel- - Agger/ Wilson- Baines-
Young- - -Gerrard- - -Meireles/ Shelvey- Jarvis-
- - - - - - - - - Suarez- - - - - - - - - - - -
- - - - - - - - - Carrol- - - - - - - - - - - -
Olly

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 00:03:13
Pacheco watch:

well he made the first goal all by himself!
he virtually won the penalty with an exquisite pass! which resulted in a red card.

also by coming off resulted in the player coming on scoring a hattrick. lol.

looks good though. should of been loaningd for the hole season

Harry5:)YNWA

 

 

 

 

03 Apr 2011 00:09:44
I wonder what NESV think of today's result ?

WBA who ?

Oh dear. Stop being sentimental about LFC's management.
Sammy Lee is a loser.
Time for many changes.

 

 

 

 

 
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