Liverpool Banter Archive August 03 2013

03 Aug 2013 21:31:11
To keep with the positive note of today the Olympiacos president has donated £100,000 to the SG foundation!

Class!

YNWA

03 Aug 2013 21:22:43
I SAY SELL SUAREZ!

BR is making as if LFC are desperate for him, the club is bigger always is and always will be.

If Everton offered big money he would even stab us in the heart and probably want to go there too.

Bottom line he is disrespecting LFC and that is starting to annoy me.

BR needs a PR person to handle the media he is doing an appalling job.

I think BR and Liverpool in general are handling LS just fine . If he goes so be it but he should go on our terms not his, I'm sure plans are in place should this happen . If he stays again so be it, we have a world class player who I'm sure will still give his all.
PR wise we haven't been to savvy in the last few years, keeping our powder dry for me is the way to go.

04 Aug 2013 00:01:32
TJ96 mate I think fans made it clear today, they want Suarez to stay, that's another matter if he stays or leaves but majority of real fans, players, management etc have mad it clear that they want Suarez to stay including our "Great" captain!

He's doing the business side of drumming up the price and making it not impossible for Suarez to play if an acceptable offer doesn't come in. Suarez needs the PR guy can't blame Rodgers for this it started with Suarez

03 Aug 2013 21:14:32
I thought the squad looked very good today. Although we need one more quality player so that Allen is not in our regular 11. I know he's BR's guy but he is just not good enough. He gave the ball away cheaply in awful places and we were lucky not to concede today. Obviously LS/his replacement or Sturridge being healthy would change the look of the side, but I think that we are one quality signing away from really making a push for the CL. I think BR realizes this and I can't wait to see who we bring in.

03 Aug 2013 21:06:39
After watching the Stevie G testimonial and seeing how much support was given to Louis Suarez surely he should realise that he would be making a big mistake by leaving the mighty reds.
If Louis still wants to leave after today I would let him go to the highest bidder because after all he certainly showing no loyalty to LFC.

Our kid says that Luis hasn't gone to SG's night do!
Family emergency or something.
Dunno if that's right or not.

The Juicer

Hes a gre8 player who should be playing champ league but he has went about everything the wrong way he will prob wished he stayed at Liverpool for a bit longer when its to late and his next club and supporters don't back him when he let's them down

03 Aug 2013 20:59:16
Lads I didn't get to see the match today, just wondering how did Robbie play when he came on? Great to see him back!

Put in a decent 10mins or so. He almost scored too

Thanks coz

03 Aug 2013 20:46:46
Does anyone like hendo as much as me? Top player, top guy. Just what we need at this club.

Count me in 100% agree
Ynwa

Mate see how much scoring ment to him. That's what we want at our club

Yes, bags of energy and potential.

I always have, he joined very young. don't think we'll ever sell him for what we paid but if we can keep hold of him, his contribution will be worth every penny. More goals from him this season as well, started to see it last season!

Probably his Ma

Fully agree. This could be a big year for him

Henderson to me is jus a quality player and could be world class, not jus his play but the way he handles himself, very mature and professional, future role model for kids.

I like Hendo, first class attitude, under 21 England Captain, great workrate and skillful. His passion to improve is there for all to see. He will become a big player for us in time.

I think he is going to be come a fantastic player. He needs to carry on his improvement from last season, hopefully he will get the opportunity?
Do the Edds know how Brendan feels about him? {Ed002's Note - You need to be registered to get questions answered now.}

03 Aug 2013 20:10:19
Any chance of Ron Benson or Tony Hedges this window? I've always believed if you're old enough, you're good enough. Or would they not fit the FSG blueprint?

Heard those two were smoking hot, although not available to the youth teams for some reason

I'd also take Bassett for manager.

03 Aug 2013 20:31:13
Ed02,

Was just wondering if anyone from the club made contact with Ayew's representative when they came to England (yesterday or the day before, can't remember which). {Ed002's Note - Nobody has made contact with Marseille. And she is here for other reasons for a few days.}

03 Aug 2013 20:28:21
Do you think we could lose agger to if Barcelona come in {Ed002's Note - I doubt Liverpool would want to sell.}

03 Aug 2013 20:25:13
I THINK i'm registered but have to say i'm not sure, is it just me? Anyway, what is clearly obvious is that the whole site personna has been raised and its much more enjoyable to read. Top marks to the EDs team for driving through registration for all. wehey no more glifnards!

Tel 1949 {Ed002's Note - Thanks Tel. Let's all try and keep it up (although I appreciate at your age that is not always easy.}

04 Aug 2013 11:42:33
Cant believe nobody gave Ed02 a high five on that one. Wasted on some people mate lol.

03 Aug 2013 20:15:40
Just a thought. This whole trying to convince Suarez to stay etc! Is that not against everything BR said he wants In his players? Or does that not count if your world class? Ha

03 Aug 2013 20:09:30
Eds or Macca, do u think we will sign costa?

03 Aug 2013 19:58:45
Ed just to say that there would be no WP issues with Costa in early july he got dual nationality and now has a european passport. Reality Red {Ed002's Note - I never said there would be issues. And I dealt with the concept of passports of convenience.}

03 Aug 2013 19:50:31
Hi Eds. With Skrtel all but gone, do you think Liverpool will try to strike a deal for Papadopoulos? {Ed002's Note - RTP.}

03 Aug 2013 19:42:30
Hi eds how come Liverpool haven't shown any interest in Marcelo? He's exactly the type if LB we need and he's second choice at Madrid plus there trying to sign that Brazilian LB we've been linked with to, obviously he's not the first choice. {Ed002's Note - That is a Dear Mr Rodgers question. They are looking to Siqueira as a Coentrao replacement.}

03 Aug 2013 19:34:54
eds
Any interest in insigne from napoli? {Ed002's Note - No. MOTD Fever?}

Please don't remind me of MOTD fever Eds, its the only thing that annoys me more than all the smokescreen posts! {Ed002's Note - What about that chaffing on the inner thighs?}

03 Aug 2013 19:14:23
Hi eds what's the latest with iker muniain? etc etc? {Ed002's Note - There is nothing happening at all.}

03 Aug 2013 19:18:00
I'm In, registered!

No internet for a while eds, been lost without this site! Humour me please with any news on signings (in) on the cards. {Ed002's Note - You will need to read the posts man.}

03 Aug 2013 19:12:48
I have just read the letter from Olympiacos chairman on the club website. What a touch of class! Gutted I missed today as on holiday in Cyprus but sounds like a great day and a fitting tribute to a true legend. Pleased to hear that Luis got a good reception. I am not bothered if he stays or goes, but think we should always show respect and sounds like we did that today.

Great decision Eds to make people register on here now. Hopefully that will stop the mindless abuse you guys get. Keep up the great work. {Ed002's Note - Have a great holiday Tommy.}

Yes I read the letter you are right class is the right word hats off to them and there chairman, love Cyprus enjoy your time there my m8
Ynwa

I am off to cyprus tomorrow morning.
Me brother in law is getting hitched>>>>
Have you heard of the film "snakes on a plane" well the sequel is called "my kids on a plane".
I can see it now " I am sick of these mofo kids on this mofo plane".
Well done Stevie G. Glad we got a win for you it's the least you deserved!
Keep the run going boys>>>

Agreed completely. Donating their proceeds to similar charities back in Greece is most definitely class.

03 Aug 2013 19:09:06
I have a happy post for you, I know they're strengthening and I know it's only pre season but Spurs without Bale are absolutely appalling. They are currently 5-1 down! Take Suarez out of our team and we've coped pretty darn well, take Gerrard out and we struggle a bit but we all saw last year without Bale Spurs are truly awful.

03 Aug 2013 18:59:26
Hi eds, what is the latest with iker muniain? 12 months ago he seemed to be one of the hottest young players around with everyone looking at him now he is hardly mentioned, has he lost form or not developed in the past year? {Ed002's Note - You need to get signed up and registered if you want answers.}

03 Aug 2013 18:40:47
Hi Ed's, in the player round-up section you mention how Gait�n from Benfica would be very expensive to buy. I'm just thinking if Suarez were to leave, we could look at overpaying for someone like him. If we got say £50m for Luis, some of it surely will be re-invested, and he'd fit well on our left side. Are we talking $30m? $35m? $40m? Anything above $35m would be not worth it in my opinion. A reply would be great, I'm thinking of registering too. RC {Ed002's Note - You want replies, then register.}

03 Aug 2013 18:30:32
Eds, what's with everyone registering? I decided to a short while ago and now every post has been like mine, beginning with "I finally signed up" etc. have I started a thing? LOL. {Ed002's Note - You are the trend setter.}

03 Aug 2013 19:17:25
I'm a hipster, so I only signed up ironically because everyone else thinks it is cool - I mean I signed before it was mainstream too.

;) {Ed002's Note - I am jive to that.}

03 Aug 2013 22:29:31
Edohtu is really in there. He lays it straight with the footy using fly hepcat jive.

03 Aug 2013 18:15:13
Afternoon EDs & reds, jus back frm an eventful & pleasing afternoon at anfield(via the boozer) & have 2 say things r lookin up, ANOTHER clean sheet, toure looked solid again, joe allen looks more a lpool player with every game, aspas showed glimpses of class. I fully agree with what stevie says too, if we manage to keep a hold of our little number 7 & bring in a few more then we can have a serious assault on title this year. Here is hopin for a successful & profitable season.
JFT96

Two totally different types of player. I have faith that Joe, will come good

Lets not go too far mate, top 4 however with a few first team starters then definitely!

Title?

Let's be realistic, ay?

03 Aug 2013 17:59:51
Hi eds what players do you think we will sign in the coming weeks {Ed002's Note - I can tell you when I know of interest and I can tell you when I know of bids being made, but I really can't predict who will actually sign.}

03 Aug 2013 17:57:56
I have just registered. been on this site for what 4-5 years now, since before 2010 I believe, could be wrong, old age and all that, pleased my previous have been cleared from a few years ago, Ronaldinho to Liverpool etc. erm erm (But it seemed so plausible at the time!) hehe Have a good one Eds :) {Ed002's Note - Welcome Tobey.}

03 Aug 2013 17:45:13
hi eds, great site love the tweaks, hopefully no more no name trolls.
also wanted to say thank u stevie g what a man what a player.LEGEND!!
cheers

03 Aug 2013 16:48:51
hi ed what's the crack with costa now is this deal going to happen? {Ed002's Note - I really don't know. #WonderDogSparky has sent him an open invitation to have him as one of his new roomies.}

03 Aug 2013 17:33:39
On the way back from the match today . Aspas showed some good touches I was impressed, only really seen him on YouTube so was good to see him. Sterling was looking sharp, and apart from missing an open goal allen was looking good which was good to see as he seems to get a lot of stick.
I've been a fan of Enrique but in my opinion he was the weak link in the team.

Good to see the support there for Gerrard today.

Would rather sign fowler again than keep suarez

03 Aug 2013 17:19:27
2/0 down half time boos started at arsenal already, how long before ( the you don't know wot your doing) chants start again there at AW, think oh dear think them and Man U could be in for bit of a off season really think 3 rd is up for grabs man c and Chelsea have very good squads and managers so carnt c any one else coming above them two! Not righting off spurs just think it 3 rd not out the question
Ynwa

Spoke to soon ha ha, no think Napoli been poor, was two happy to sit back let arsenal have the ball far to much, I know it preseason but Napoli not easy on the eye kind of makes me more happy knowing we don't play like that!! Ynwa

03 Aug 2013 17:15:42
Despite very average opposition, I thought the team played really well. Lucas was huge in the anchor role allowing Allen to push further forward to great effect. Lucas seems to be playing his way back to his pre-first major injury form. Toure and Agger have clicked. any update on Agger's knee? Sterling is back to his early season form and Aspas seems like a really good addition. My only thought on all the BR additions is that they are in exactly the same mold. slight, fast, great touch. Nothing wrong with any of that but would love to see a McMahon/Souness type of player added, particularly when playing some of the more physical dogged type of teams.

Agreed- thought Lucas looked very, very sharp today. Kinda wish he had taken the shot from the edge of the box though ;-)

Think Lucas-Allen will be a popular pairing in the middle this season for BR. 2-behind-1 in a midfield 3 with a dynamic front 3, as he's always envisaged.

03 Aug 2013 17:13:05
Am a lpool diehard 4rm 1 of those rarely heard of 3rd wrld countries(Uganda)but matter of fact av bin an old time registered adict of dis site but this is my 1st tym 2 post. actually not my 1st because av ever posted b4 but my posts hardly get thru. Am from watching the arsenal Napoli first half and am of the belief that br was right to get rid of reina as he is stil the same careless guy who can easily gift the opposition goals. Thanx EDS for yo great works . {Ed002's Note - Welcome.}

Welcome, trend52. Was in Uganda in 1986 and 1992 and LOVED it! Fantastic people, who know how to party :)

I don't think LFC have been to sub-Saharan Africa since the early '80s, when we played a game in Khartoum. Would be nice if we could do a return trip. It would certainly spread an awful lot of goodwill.

03 Aug 2013 17:11:39
Long live Captain Gerrard!

Our very own Roy Of the Rovers!

03 Aug 2013 17:08:23
Ed02 will Knedira be leaving Madrid this season? Amd who is interested in him? {Ed002's Note - See previous answers please.}

03 Aug 2013 17:06:09
Just re registered Eds

Previously posted under the name United Kolours Of Bennetton {Ed002's Note - Welcome.}

03 Aug 2013 17:04:49
I couldn't care less if Suarez stays or not.
For him to leave would be my preference but if he doesn't I'd take the best of him for as long as possible.
Do you think there may be an option from somebody to take him in January or next season and that he could stay until then?

Make your mind up lad.

Why should Chris make his mind up. I am of the same opinion. Suarez is not an ambassador to the club and never will be, his job is to score and create goals, if he stays another season and gives us 20->25 goals, this is extra points that will only benefit the club, I will cheer if he scores and hope the rest of our fans do the same.
If he leaves tomorrow, so be it . someone else will score these goals.

I am still 50/50 on whether I want Suarez to stay or go, if he does stay, we should give him our full support .

03 Aug 2013 16:57:49
Good display. Delighted Saurez was cheered on to the pitch. A show of class by our supporters there today. Granted it was probably more out of respect for Stevie G than support of Saurez but top class and shows him what loyalty to our club is about.
Also delighted for Allen. Top player getting to show his true self now he is injury free.

Agree with this

03 Aug 2013 16:48:16
Fantastic day for Stevie, he is my all time great probably only because I'm 16 and grew up in his generation.

The first half we zipped the ball around very quickly, we played great, just very optimistic about the season and want it to hurry up!

03 Aug 2013 16:43:04
As I understand the Costa situation, Liverpool do not need to negotiate with Atletico Madrid over the price. if they fulfill all the legal and tax requirements of the release clause in Diego Costa's contract then Costa can move if the correct amount is paid.

The release clause is a legal requirement in all Spanish contracts and is negotiated with the player and his representative at the time of signing the contract. It is meant to prevent a club stopping a player that wants to move, moving.

Liverpool need to negotiate with Costa and if he is willing to come then the amount stipulated in the account is transferred to Atletico and he must be allowed to leave.

Liverpool can negotiate things with the club such as price, instalment plan and it is upto Atletico to agree, but if Liverpool pay the amount under the terms of the players release clause then Atletico by law cannot stop the player from transferring.

This is what happened when Figo left from Barcelona to Real Madrid. Florentino Perez negotiated a legal contract with Figo that said that if Perez won the Real Madrid presidency he would pay the buy out for Figo from Barcelona. At the time Perez was very much the underdog versus a president that had just won the Champions league. so Figo saw this as a way of negotiating a better deal with Barcelona. he did not want to leave. Perez began saying who he would sign and he won the election. The first day he was in the president's office he paid the full amount into Barcelona's account and because Figo had signed a legal document with Perez he was forced to go.

Therefore, if Liverpool are negotiating to buy Diego Costa it possibly does not need a bid to be placed with Atletico. they may negotiate terms with Costa he agrees, Liverpool deposit the fee in the atletico account or via Costa's as he is the one that is effectively buying out his contract and the deal is done.

That is how I understand it gets done, so atletico's statements maybe true they have not received a bid but they do not need to.

Also any team losing a player during the final days of the transfer window to a release clause have extra time after the window shuts to find a replacement. {Ed002's Note - I think you have misunderstood how all of this works.}

Isn't everything you have just mentioned called 'taping up'? Not too keen on the Pool doing that

No it is not tapping up

1. All release clauses are for the public record as they are registered with the Spanish Football Federation. Messi for example has a release clause of something like 1 billion euros.

2. As they are public a buying team knows what it will take to buy the player. They know the terms and conditions of the buy out clause and if they are prepared to meet that then the selling team cannot object. This is because the selling team has already agreed these conditions.

3.Yes they can negotiate a lower price but that would require negotiation through the club before anything can happen, just like in the Uk.

4. This is the big problem with the Suarez situation. He thought it was a release clause but it was not.

5. Clubs renegotiate a release clause if a player gets better by offering the player better terms. This has happened this summer with Tello, who has had a bump in salary but agreed to a higher release clause in return.

6. It is a sensible solution Asti says to a player that if a club does not want to lose you another club must pay this to get you. Arsenal would know exactly what it would take to get Suarez. Suarez would know what was needed to be paid and Liverpool do not need to be forced by Suarez histrionics to sell unless the conditions are met.

7. Negotiations tend to happen when a team wants to buy a player but thinks the release clause is too high. This happened with Soldado to Tottenham and Illramendi to Real Madrid. In the end both clubs paid the release clause because the buying club does not need to accept.

{Ed002's Note - I think you have misunderstood something about all of this.}

04 Aug 2013 11:35:26
Ed02, as I stated above, it is how I understand how the release clause works. It is how it was explained to me by a Lawyer here in Spain.

I am willing to admit that I maybe wrong but Ed02 why do you not explain why I have misunderstood and explain how it works. I am sure most people in here are interested as well. {Ed002's Note - Unfortunately I think you have been given a rather confusing and incorrect account of things. I don't want to get in to picking it apart point by point but you mention "buy out" clauses without recognising that these are significantly different and rare animals. I have explained the various types of clause before and it should be easy to find. I have also explained that dispute that exists over the clause in Suarez's contract and it is not as you suggest nor as it has perhaps been misreported in the media. The critical point remains that any offers and negotiation has to be done with the holder of the player's registration.}

03 Aug 2013 16:34:00
Kinda weird watching Reina keeping goal for Napoli at the Emirates. Still feels like he's one of ours

He still is. hopefully a titlechallenge with napoli and hemight rediscover his best formand we get a decent fee for him

That's because he is kid.

DaveyBootle

03 Aug 2013 16:26:30
Aspas looked very promising today, think he has the potential to be a real fan favourite.

We could have some real fire power next season, i'm cautiously optimistic.

If we can somehow manage to keep hold of Suarez, then an interchanging front three of Suarez, Sturridge and Aspas will be very exciting.

With costa maybe coming in, and the likes of Ibe and Sterling on the bench we will have plenty of depth and competition for places. With only Suarez being the mainstay (hopefully)

I really don't see where downing and Borini come in to the equation, and can see downing being moved on late in the transfer window if we get some more signings in. I think Borini will stay but he has a tough job on his hands, and really has to make an impact when he gets his chance.

03 Aug 2013 16:17:40
For any of the Eds. Does anybody have any idea about how FSG's sale of the Red-Sox is going and will this sale or, lack of, have any baring on Liverpool possibly going on the market again and our using the potential Suarez funds for other additions to the first team? {Ed002's Note - There is no tie between the businesses.}

03 Aug 2013 16:15:39
You just have the expression of Henderson face when he scores.He just explodes every time and you can see how much it means for him.I want to see more of that face this season it gives me big hopes for LFC :)

Henderson is a hard worker, will be over the moon for him if he fulfils his potential.

Dont worry Mark. he will

Henderson is the most improved player we have in the last year

03 Aug 2013 16:07:08
Saw most of the game on the website (meant to be working ;). Impressed with the team as a whole. Aspas seems to be a very willing runner and has the invention to create something out of nothing. Allen looked a lot sharper and more eager to get forward. Agger has looked really solid in pre season, hope is knee is ok. Sterling looked really fresh a passed well. Coutinho is going to be a star. His vision is fantastic and he has the execution to go with it.
Absolutely love the passion that Henderson shows when he scores. It didn't matter that it was a testimonial he'd just scored for Liverpool and it felt great. I'd celebrate like that if I scored outside Anfield! Mind you I celebrate like that on Pro Evo ha ha,

Pro Evo so much better than FIFA!

Yes Dave it surely is. Strip the licencing etc back then compare and its always been the best for me.

03 Aug 2013 16:02:45
Played really today, but don't understand people complaining about sayers waving his arms about saying he doesn't want to be here anymore!

Saurez has always done that.

Hope he stays

LAVERS {Ed002's Note - You need to be looking to register Lavers.}

03 Aug 2013 15:53:45
Wish we weren't on a delay here in murica! Had a drs appointment and missing the delayed showing now! Seems the team are playing a real good game

Decision Review System? Yea, it has been controversial though, hasn't it? On a related matter though, Joe Root looks a good young player. Any interest eds? :p

03 Aug 2013 15:51:18
Congratulations Stevie, enjoy your day!
You deserve it.

03 Aug 2013 15:41:47
If Skrtel is likely being loaned to Napoli as people are suggesting I can't see us selling Agger to Barcelona, especially since it'll be either him or Lucas for vice-Captain.

Todays agger injury was a ploy frm us to put off barcelona
so relax. because as far as I know he won't be moving this season

Lucas for vice captain for me

03 Aug 2013 15:18:42
Just want to say what a great game for Stevie G!
Its becoming very rare for one player to stay at one club never mind be the captain for so many years.
would have been great if he scored but I was impressed by some of the fast passing and movement. Also pity fowler didn't score I thought it was in nearly dropped my beer on the parrot!

03 Aug 2013 15:12:52
Looked good today. Aspas and Allen played really well. Coutinho was awesome.

03 Aug 2013 15:11:50
Was a really good game to watch, smashing first half from the likes of Allen and Sterling. Aspas also impressed and looked lively. Lucas commanded the centre of the park and looked fitter than he has for a while. Credit to the fans who made today a great occasion for our Captain Fantastic and what a reception for Fowler!
Overall performance was good and with a couple of additions this squad looks in good shape going into the new season.
Ps - I hope agger remains injury free, we really cannot afford to lose our best defender.

03 Aug 2013 15:03:21
Our general passing game looked very good today I thought. Lucas seemed to have that yard of pace back in him that he had a couple of seasons ago, fingers crossed it stays that way.

Hats off to Joe Allen and Iago Aspas, both of them worked tirelessly today and Henderson's celebrations are always great to watch, you can tell every goal means the world to him. Nice surprise to see Allen and Henderson as the scorers - in a match dedicated to our most prolific midfielder, two of the young midfielders step up to the plate.

Also, it's been a pleasure reading this site today, everyone has been in great spirits. Good effort guys. Makes a really refreshing change, this is what the LFC fans are really like!

JFT 96

JP

03 Aug 2013 15:01:23
Cnt watch the game today, but by the sound of your comments Liverpool are playing well, what an achievement for stevie g

03 Aug 2013 15:00:54
Hey eds, doing a fantastic job on the site here, very much appreciated! Just after watching the Stevie Testimonial and was surprised at how well the fans reacted to Suarez coming on the pitch! I'm not to sure if that would sway his decision, but won't do any harm! IF Suarez does leave, who do you see as a possible replacement?

I would love to see him stay. {Ed002's Note - This has been pretty much done to death Traynor, but for now Suarez is looking for the way out still.}

03 Aug 2013 14:56:39
Who's your favourite Liverpool player ever? After today's match it got me thinking, I was always partial to Beardsley and Staunton but I think over all for me it has to be Souness. Gerrard is a great player no doubt but Souness was the greatest in a team of legends.

Steve Nicol or Rob Jones for me :)

Barnes for me, but Gerrard and Dalglish come very close!

Big Digger Barnes, class and then some!

For me it has to be Stevie. I think it depends on what generation you grew up in.

My top 3 are Dalglish, Barnes and then Souness .

Favourite ever was Ray Kennedy, who remains, in my view, shockingly underrated

I will never forget his goal in the 1981 European Cup semi-final versus Bayern Munich, that took us through to the final. It was one of our greatest ever achievements, as Bayern were formidable and had an unbelievable record at the Olympic Stadium at the time; think that they had some crazy record of never having lost or drawn a European Cup game, in the Olympic Stadium, until that night.

Kenny was kicked out of the game within the first ten minutes and later on, a young guy called Howard Gale, a complete unknown, came on and tore Bayern apart. Kennedy scored around ten minutes from the end, with a sublime goal. Although Rummenigge equalised just before the end, we went through on the away goals. The Saint Etienne game, at Anfield, in 1977 will always be my most memorable game but the Munich game is not far behind and doesn't often get the recognition that it deserves.

I read somewhere that Bob Paisley considered it his greatest achievement in Europe, which is saying something. I think that he also said that he had more inquiries about Ray than any other player, while he was Liverpool manager, which is a reflection of how highly regarded he was at the time.

Ian Callaghan & Peter Thompson on the wings. Or so proud to watch Roger Hunt in England's World Cup winning team.

Has to be Captain Fantastic for me. Apart from Carra, he is the only LFC legend I have watched play. If only I had been a bit older, could have watched the likes of Fowler etc.

There have been better players, but Kevin Keegan was the guy that got me into Liverpool, so he will always be up there for me.

First football memory was the '74 FA Cup Final and Mighty Mouse was sublime. We talk about a fluid top three today, but what I would do to have Keegan, Toshack & Heighway back. !

03 Aug 2013 14:51:19
I've said it before and I'll say it again, Coutinho is going to be a superstar, the closest thing to Beardsley we've had since back then. Hope we get in the Champions league soon or we'll have a situation with that one in the years to come.

I am sorry to say. But I am not convinced by Coutinho. Time will tell.

Gudnoix, do you have cataracts?

03 Aug 2013 14:47:36
What an amazing day for Gerrard and my fellow reds. What a perfect day

03 Aug 2013 14:18:07
Hi eds and reds
I know there has been a lot of negativity and people calling for big signings and of course as fans we would all like to see a couple more top players brought in to improve the first eleven and the depth of the squad, but I for one am very happy with our summer so far.
I believe that had we had coutinho all of last season then we would have challenged for Europa league, if we had sturridge and coutinho all season then I believe we would have challenged for champions league.
This leaves fans thinking if we lost Suarez we would be back to square one, however I don't believe this to be the case as I think it is clear from pre season there are a lot of positives.
The defence will be improved this season as mignolet is more consistent than Reina and with Kelly back to fitness and wisdom more experienced and playing centrally then if we could add a first choice central defender to replace skrtel I have no doubt this area of the field will be better.
In midfield Lucas will have a whole season and pre season of games and fitness under his belt and already looks sharp and is a great player, add to that the constantly improving Henderson as well as Allen who I think in pre season has really she on his class; last season was tough for a young man to come to such a big club and immediately have so much responsibility and expectation as well as the injury.
And up front even if Suarez leaves we have a more experienced sterling with ibe emerging. We have brought in aspas and Alberto who have both shown why they were bought and regardless of their fee or anything else they clearly do improve the squad. As well as that we have practically a new signing in borini and if suare were to leave then I'm sure another attacking players such as costa.
So I for one am really excited and looking forward to this season
Congratulations to our fantastic captain as well truly is a one in a million players, pure class
Alex YNWA

03 Aug 2013 13:43:53
who is this joe allen lookalike that's having a man of the match performance :) hope this is a sign of good things to come from him for next season. aspas other standout for me today. whole team looks good though :)

03 Aug 2013 13:40:50
Some good football in the first half, nice to see Joe Allen getting forward so much.

03 Aug 2013 13:38:03
Impressed with Toure, Aspas, Sterling & Lucas so far.

A little worried about Allen. It's hard to criticise him personally since he's a willing runner and is giving his all, but he just doesn't look like he's in his natural position getting forward from midfield. Yes, he's scored, but he's struggled when he's pulled wide to exploit space, or is pressured by defenders. And he's missed two other decent chances. If we're not signing someone new to be our link-man between midfield and attack, I'd rather work with Henderson in that position.

You obviously listened to it on the radio - Joe Allen was excellent, in a fairly competitive game.

03 Aug 2013 17:23:38
No, I watched it.

Allen got missed two scorable chances, got crowded out two or three times in the first 15 minutes, and gave away a dangerous freekick after chasing back from his upfield position.

I appreciate that he did make the runs and he did score, but he's clearly not at his most comfortable playing that role. Henderson is quicker, stronger, a better finisher and just generally better in the top third. I'm not saying Allen is a bad player, because he isn't, I just think he needs to play deeper with Lucas, but Gerrard has that position locked out.

03 Aug 2013 13:32:31
Hats off to joe Allen. He has played extremely well as well as aspas! Both of them stand out players this first half.

Gerrard he's usual self controlling the game absolute legend! Don't want him to get older :(

Overall though very crisp passing hope we come out like this against stoke!

03 Aug 2013 13:31:42
hey lfc fans

you can see we still need more additions. more penetrating players. and POTENT

because our play, passing. is good. if we score out chances and have more deadly players up there. we can kill teams off very quickly. and then play counter

hopefully. brendan buy atleast 2 more attackers because we really need it

red lobster {Ed002's Note - Don't forget to register.}

Look at attackers we have
Sturridge saurez borini Downing aspas Alberto Henderson coutinho sterling Gerrard ibe!
John a {Ed002's Note - John, you need to get registered if you expect the posts to keep getting through.}

03 Aug 2013 13:30:25
Atleast now can we say joe allen was never worth that money and never will be. He should've scored a hat trick by now.

Are you joking?

At least he`s getting into the positions to attempt to score.
he`s only just coming back from long injury lay off.
sterling is in the same coming back from injury what do ya think of his 1st half?
agger and toure looking a good partnership too.

Dear oh dear, he could have done better once or twice, but has looked a very good player so far.

Yep, Allen is our worst striker, right?

Are you serious?! He put himself in them positions to give him that chance!? He's played really well no one else was in the box?!

03 Aug 2013 14:15:36
Some people will never be happy

03 Aug 2013 13:26:48
Testing testing just registered {Ed002's Note - It works.}

03 Aug 2013 13:17:00
how good does aspas look it doesent look effortless though he's a very rough diamond what a player to have

03 Aug 2013 12:52:20
Good luck today stevie g. An unequaled example of all that's great about football. Really excited for the new season, reckon migs will be sensational. YNWA

03 Aug 2013 12:48:54
Is today's game available on the lfc website? {Ed002's Note - Maybe you could go there and check for us?}

Mate go to wiziwig.

03 Aug 2013 12:43:11
If the rumour about Suarez wants a trial against us is true. Then he is an ungrateful little person! {Ed002's Note - See earlier answers Daniel.}

03 Aug 2013 12:40:05
Just registered. Stole my girlfriends email address ed so disregard my last post.
Also someone had already registered my username, so I am no longer MIKEY but MIKEY1985.
I hope these new changes make the site better and more like it was a few years back. Have a good happy post day ed. {Ed002's Note - Got your Stevie G PJs on ready for the game Mikey?}

03 Aug 2013 12:37:15
Hi Eds keep up the good work.

Right simple question and wondering what people's thought are?

Why don't we go in for Defoe and even Bent? Would cost around 10-15 million and guarantee Pl goals. I would rather us do this than sign the nutter Costa of A.Madrid.

Any chance of Defoe/Bent? {Ed002's Note - I would not hold your breath.}

Bent is terrible seriously go home defoe and him are to old and expensive

03 Aug 2013 12:25:30
congratulations to Liverpool and stevie g.

top player and a legend of football.

malaga gooner

03 Aug 2013 12:16:18
Bright sunny day. Peace and harmony on the site. Stevie G's testimonial. What's not to love?
(Crickets letting me down so far, but hey ho can't have everything. )
Thanks for the change to logging in Eds, feels like a different site. Too personal for the trolls?.

03 Aug 2013 12:13:39
It's nice to be able to read down the page and not want to punch anyone
Registration all the way

Alvy

03 Aug 2013 12:11:59
Stevie Gerrard, for me the best player I have seen in my life, he has everything. Ed's thanks for keeping us educated, really do enjoy this site.

03 Aug 2013 11:57:58
Think I am logged in now Ed, just writing this to check everything went swimmingly! Anybody know any good links for the match today? {Ed002's Note - http://tinyurl.com/k4eluof }

03 Aug 2013 11:54:31
Just leaving for the game, God I love Anfield, butterflies all morning, should be a great occasion to honour in my opinion the best Liverpool player of all time. {Ed002's Note - Have a great time.}

03 Aug 2013 11:51:46
Great to hear StevieG turned down a champions league club last season.Best thing is no'one even knew an offer was made.I know he had a bit of a blip with the chelsea thing but damn i'm glad he stayed.Good luck today Stevie.your an absolute legend, up there with King Kenny etc.YNWA LFCfamily

03 Aug 2013 11:50:07
I don't post very often, but I would like to congratulate Stevie G today. Take a bow son and have a great day.

I have watched him many a year & still remember his first goal v Sheffield Wednesday & boy has he progressed over time.

An all time Liverpool great who will be remembered with fondness. let's hope that any reaction to our number 7 doesn't spoil his day.

Also bravo to the eds, I have been on here for 4 years or so & today you can see a real change. its so positive today. Eds you can also take a bow! Thanks for all you do guys & gals & keep up the good work.

Crooky

03 Aug 2013 11:48:13
Hi Eds, great to see so many people registering, hopefully there will be less abuse especially the Eds.

I wanted to share with you my (sub-conscious)powers I seem to have - many years ago, while I was in the RAF based near Chester, I ran the 100M and won. A few days later we signed Ian Rush. Last week I bought a coffee machine to make latte at home and Costa is suddenly mentioned as a possible recruit. There have been other instances as well although I did have an itch in a delicate part once but Billy Hollocks signed for another team.

I'm not saying I'm correct every time but I have just returned from Minnesota and noticed that at Goodwood 3.50 today there are 2 horses, Blaine and Racy, that fit my premonition thought pattern! Don't shoot the messenger but I will post on the betting page in the future if either comes in!

03 Aug 2013 11:41:24
I reckon that some one who we will sign could be at the game today in the stands maybe!! Just a feeling they might of been invited to sample the atmosphere. you just never know these things happen. Hope stevie scores a hatrick. YNWA

03 Aug 2013 11:29:59
Yeah just registered :)

03 Aug 2013 11:24:13
anyone know a site that todays game can be watched on? On a side note ed's haveyou considered a system that would allow registered users to message each other? It could be useful for answering questions like mine above or people asking about tickets. Just an idea for the future :) {Ed001's Note - yes, but we were worried it might end up being abused. Spam etc. So it is only a thought for now.}

03 Aug 2013 11:15:03
Let's give the skipper the day he deserves today, the greatest red I have ever seen grace the precious turf of anfield. let's hope that Saurez takes it all in and and sees how a real legend of this football club conducts himself and how much love the fans of our great club have for our true legends.Keep up the good work eds, great site.

03 Aug 2013 11:14:32
So Eds, you will not reply to our posts? {Ed002's Note - Yes?}

03 Aug 2013 11:04:20
At least have the decency to tell someone thrre band! I've posted 4 times in recent days and not one has got through!
bigW {Ed002's Note - You're not banned. Try registering.}

03 Aug 2013 10:52:36
I have seen a few posts recently suggesting we need to sign a defensive midfielder as cover/competition for Lucas. What are people's thoughts as to who we should go after and do the Eds know of anybody we are actually interested in? My vote would be Diame at West Ham. He was the standout player in the game at Anfield last season.

03 Aug 2013 11:59:29
Diame didn't play as a defensive midfielder in that game though. He got forward a lot.

No point in buying a player to play as a def mid based on his performances in a different position.

03 Aug 2013 10:47:53
Happy Stevie G day! Hoping to see a competitive, but well manner game and hopefully, DF will not be included in the squad so that, all the fans can just concentrate on celebrating and enjoying Stevie's day!

On a different note, what a difference a day make sin this site! Mostly positive posts and a whole bunch of registered members!

03 Aug 2013 10:47:19
morning all
cant go today to pay my homage to a true LFC legend. I rate Stevie G up there with any Liverpool player including the king and god. just a thought though if we have the king, god what do we call stevie g in the future when reminiscing - what title is suitable maybe the messiah as we all looked to him when in trouble and more often than not he delivered, pulled us out of the brown smelly stuff, single handed at times tooA messiah is a saviour or liberator of a group of people). just a thought and I digress.
my main point was to thank Stevie G for all the good times, the sheer pleasure watching one of the greatest players I have ever seen and to wish him well for today.
my fav goal - I can't pick one - olympiakos, the 1st in istanbul that got us going, the fa cup final against west ham all sublime for obvious reasons but I think the 25 yarder that flew past Bartez into the top corner.

good luck stevie YNWA

03 Aug 2013 10:35:44
Who on this site hasn't corrected someone on a transfer rumour down in the pub using the eds info, usually by laughing with eyes closed, nodding head from side to side saying something in the line of "Well I heard he's off to Milan". Who amongst us hasn't used the insight of another poster to fit in with others "See the problem with suarez is when the ball sticks more than likely a goal opportunity will follow. But more than often it doesn't stick and the team is caught in transition between defence and attack, forced to try quickly then switch back to defence and get punished for this". This sometimes is followed by a silence, a look around and an exit from the conversation when it becomes apparent they don't really care about football. Who didn't take Ed02 advice and look up Alice B Toklas and find the sentence Toklas was a chain smoker with a slight mustache, Gypsy earrings, and manicured nails.

So in summary thank you to the eds again for making me ahead of tv on transfers which leads to me looking ITK.

Yours honestly

shanedub {Ed002's Note - Thanks man.}

03 Aug 2013 11:52:30
Totally agree eds. you guys are fantastic

Alvy

Cool man, agree with that totally, recent conversations with colleagues regarding the reported costa bid has had me disagreeing with them on the validity of the story and his percieved lack of quality due to not being cavani or messi

03 Aug 2013 10:18:05
steven gerrard is the best player to grace the premier league and am glad I got to watch all these years I know there's more to come but won't be long before were saying he's Liverpools greatest ever player IMO can't wait for the game

03 Aug 2013 10:09:26
Not that I'll be at the game but hope the fans who are there remember that this is a day for cheering Gerard and not booing suarez (wether they think he deserves it or not) we shouldn't leave any negatives on his big day he deserves that much for being our greatest ever player (greatest for me anyway since I was too young to remember the dalglish era)

Also can't wait to see fowler, my favourite ever lfc player :)

03 Aug 2013 10:08:54
Just registered great improvement eds! {Ed002's Note - Thanks Fred.}

03 Aug 2013 10:05:55
Hi Eds - had a couple of posts that didn't go up yesterday. Today I have seen you telling a few
posters to register/log in.
Quite probable that my posts didn't go up because
they were rubbish but I am just checking to see
whether it is essential to log in each time {Ed002's Note - I don't know the reasons, but maybe you nailed it yourself.}

03 Aug 2013 10:32:53
Up early with the larks for the SG match later.
What about the beeb's website?
"Suarez considers legal action".
You don't say. Ed02 told us all about that weeks ago, and The Guardian ran a story on it over a week ago too.
So now the beeb, who's footy coverage is getting poorer each passing year, sticks that as it's headline banner on the Friday night before SG's Testimonial?
What a joke.
Sensationalist journalism at its worst.
I honestly thought the beeb were better than that.
Anyone going to the game today, don't let that rubbish put you off.
And don't ruin the day.

The Juicer {Ed002's Note - Don't forget to register man.}

If you're worried about receiving spam or advertising emails then all I can say is I have never once received either. You're a regular u should register there's nothing to it

03 Aug 2013 10:32:01
Where do you register eds? {Ed002's Note - There is a link further up the page.}

03 Aug 2013 10:30:41
Big admirer of the work you all do to keep this great site going. Its happy post day so let's all show support and register, let's weed out the trolls. I'm often second guessing who you guys all are to have such knowledge and contacts.By far the most reliable place to keep up to date with the ins and outs of our great club. Keep up the good work guys and thanks to all the others that post to make this site what it is. ps I'm confident the manager and owners are taking us in the right direction. keep the faith. :)

03 Aug 2013 10:28:00
Noticed something different on this page today - the absence of trolls and sad sacks. Is the big clean-up already in motion? Are we finally having decent banter? {Ed002's Note - It is Happy Post Day and we are pushing for registrations.}

03 Aug 2013 10:22:25
Hopefully will be a good day for all today at anfield. Well deserved. My question really is to you eds and people out there that know your football, is kolo toure a better organiser at the back than jamie carragher was? {Ed002's Note - I'll leave that for the experts Dar.}

Probably not much in it from what i've seen over the years and what the squad have said about him since he joined. Additionally, he's more technically competent, though Carra would DIE for the club and that made a massive difference - I think that was a big part of our improvement in the second half of last season, not just Coutinho and Sturridge. No idea why City let Toure go tbh but their loss is definitely our gain! Let the optimism reign, especially today!

Carragher was a better organiser I feel, but Kolo has more to his game at 32 than Carra did.

02 Aug 2013 21:32:02
Eds am I registered I'm not sure?
redtilimdead

{Ed033's Note - Yes you are registered and if you've forgotten your password please go to the Forgot Password page

03 Aug 2013 09:55:26
Hi Eds, I have a request for whenever it would be possible please. I'm a lifelong fan based in Suffolk and, due to family and work commitments, can never get to live games (although I still cherish the memories of past games I did get to see. John Barnes, still one of my all time favourite players). Instead, I read and absorb anything I can find about our great club (which is why I love your site so much, it's a life saver!).

Would it be possible to create a page with the sole purpose of sharing post views of the games please. I'd love to hear from people who get to go to the games about how we played, tactics, players, what was good, not so good etc. It should also include views from those who watched on TV too as these views are just as valid.

I'm not sure how much demand there would be for this page but I'd love it. I would only hope it doesn't become a Borini bashing page though. I feel for the guy. He's obviously a very good young player who is trying hard to score and prove his worth and just needs a few goals to get his confidence up. I love that he tries so hard and, for me, it shows he cares. (Sorry, bit of a tangent there).

Thanks in advance for any consideration of the request and, new page or no new page, I just wanted to thank you again for this site. You all do a splendid job.

Have a great weekend all, {Ed002's Note - I will add it in to the suggestions box Bryan. Once we settle in a few weeks perhaps the "Questions" page could be used for reviews of games. I'll pass it on to the powers that be.}

I agree. In a very similar position, not Suffolk, and can only get to games perhaps once a year. Would be nice to read what real fans think of the performances. I do echo that it should not become a moaning, player-bashing site. Perhps this would mean too much more work for the Eds. {Ed002's Note - It would be good to see someone who attends the games to give us a half time update from their phone.}

I go to pretty much all of the home games (Mrs started to put her foot down with regards to away games unfortunately), I'd be happy to post the halftime update on here.

The only problem ( others may have experienced this. ) I sit on the Kop and or some reason, the phone reception tends to go on as the game progresses. I'm with O2.

Nicky D

You're a gentleman, Nicky

03 Aug 2013 16:47:18
Thanks again, Ed02 and thanks for the agreement Kev. Love the idea of live updates. Here's hoping.

03 Aug 2013 09:27:08
I can promise you now that if Suarez leaves we will not qualify for champions league next season. A suitable replacement will not be recruited as we cannot attract them. Right now despite what is being said, I strongly suspect Costa is being lined up as a replacement.

Realistic Red {Ed002's Note - Don't forget to register.}

03 Aug 2013 09:44:17
Lazy lazy BBC journalism at its best, no quotes no proof just a rehash of old news that Suarez is considering legal action to get a move away,
Funny that because of all the things he has had to say that we can find proof of this is not one of them.
Thanks BBC your sources must be excellent.
On a positive note all the best to a certain Mr Gerrard today, let's hope its a great celebration of a great player who stayed loyal to one club, a rarity in itself
YNWA JFT96

Love the comedy comment Guv - " BBC your sources must be excellent " best laugh this year.

Given all avenues of media, the BBC probably are the most reliable (2nd only to the fine Ed chaps on this site)

dd {Ed002's Note - The most reliable are the press agencies - but they will be dealing with fact rather than conjecture. So you won't get transfer speculation as much (if any).}

03 Aug 2013 09:33:32
Big hello to all the Ed's.
It's been a long time since I posted but in order to keep the trolls at bay and make this forum once again a true banter zone I have registered and will make a concerted effort to post as often as possible. I can't think of a day where I have not spent at least an hour trawling through the posts wondering where all the bile and hatred was spewing from. Anyway on this beautiful day I want to salute the greatest player of my generation - Stevie G! Stevie you are without a doubt a true red, inspiration, and living legend - take a bow son!

Best Stevie goal for me is possibly joint between the Olympiakos goal and the FA Cup Final equalizer against WHU. Anyone beg to differ?

I think the issue we all have Red science is Stevie has scored so many wonderful goals its hard to choose, Yes they were truly class goals but its always nice to see one in the top corner against the Mancs. if memory serves right 2001 35 yarder top corner. I think we all knew then how good he was becoming

Mine personally was his half volley vs Middlesborough. My god that boy can strike a ball!

The one against the manc's when it left Barthez clutching at thin air is a personal favorite
Jonny 71

The free kick against villa last min was good too but the utd 1 was good the olympiakos was good no sorry all pure class what a legend.sorry forgot to log in eds.Tommy Irish Red {Ed002's Note - You need to get signed up Tommy.}

03 Aug 2013 09:28:48
Steven Gerrard, just wanted to say a thank you to the best player I've ever seen play for Liverpool. I was there when you scored your greatest goal against Olympiacos and I was there in Istanbul when you lifted old big ears. The ultimate player who would have walked into any team of any generation. Blessed us fans with many joys down the years and I hope many more. Legend
DBol {Ed002's Note - Don't forget to register.}

03 Aug 2013 09:10:43
Hi Eds, in your opinion, if we was to sign Costa how would you see the midfield and forwards lining up? Also, personally I would like to see Gerrard start to play a little deeper so that he can still have a big influence on games and showcase his passing etc. I know he is still brilliant in a more attacking role but it might be a more prudent way to prolong his career whilst still playing a massive part. I'd be interested in anyone's thoughts.

Ps My first post since registering and want to reiterate the thanks from us fans. Great job and wonderful site {Ed002's Note - Normally I would not answer this Bryan as I have little or no interest in formations. But as it is Happy Post Day, and your first post as a badge carrying member, I will make an exception. Brendan Rodgers is aiming for a squad that gives him multiple options in "formation". Folks are very often misled about formations as they constantly need to adapt during a match. I recall a discussion once where it was decided that the only time formations could be considered fixed was at kick off. I know this guy at Clairefontaine who for maybe 20 years has been studying if and how different formations are applied. He advocates and teaches that certain sides (he cites Barcelona, Chelsea, Ajax and Kashima Antlers) that have achieved varying levels of success have actually now reverted to something between no formation at all and the Metodo approach and that strict formations should be a thing of the past. He wants to see intelligent players that can adapt as the game changes and this is what is being taught to the French kids who are seen as the future of the game in France. The reality is that whilst defending, even these sides will adopt a 3, 4 or 5 at the back with one or two in front. However, going forward these clubs look to 6 or 7 players being entirely flexible in the positions and space they fill - the premise being if they are intelligent players they will naturally work as a unit and make themselves available to constantly open up new options. This is what I see Rodgers aiming at, which means he needs to get players in that can be flexible and can adapt - as such, it will be a move away from a player simply being placed "wide left" or whatever. Hopefully this makes some sense.}

Cheers Ed very interesting reply mate.

Cheers for that ed. You should post more stuff like this it's a interesting read! {Ed002's Note - If you register I am sure I will.}

So Brendon is after intelligent players. I can see how Suarez doesn't quite fit in with our current tactics and formation then.

Also in response t Bryan's op, Gerrard played in this deeper position you're referring to all of last season.

Ed do you know were we can find more about this. Thank you.

ri red {Ed002's Note - More about which part Ri Red?}

03 Aug 2013 12:54:46
Not saying I understand all of that but what a fantastic and knowledgable reply Ed02!
Here's hoping registration will get this gem of a site back to what it once was by keeping the large round door handles and big male chickens off of it! It's long overdue Eds!
In the Eds we trust

03 Aug 2013 13:01:03
Thanks for the insight Ed02, makes sense with the players Brendan has brought in so far. Bryan I agree about Stevie playing deeper this season and the reason for that, although like he has shown in pre season he will still at times bomb forward, (really don't think he'll be able to help himself), but definitely won't be starting as far forward as he has been in previous years.
Fantastic reading through the posts today, far more intelligent and interesting to read, (so far), good move making everyone have to sign in. Hope it makes your lives easier until the madness of the window settles down, great work eds, thanks.

03 Aug 2013 16:47:40
Thanks Ed02, cracking read. I appreciate your time replying and it makes a lot of sense. If you know of any good articles or books on the subject please let us all know. Thanks again and have a great day

03 Aug 2013 09:05:06
Hi ed. Gerrard has come out and said he had the chance to move last summer. Any idea what club bid and approx how much? Just curious. Thanks
Swan {Ed002's Note - You need to register Swan, but it was Bayern Munich. Money is something we will open the page up to a little more once we have mandatory registration. Until then we will try and avoid it as best we can.}

03 Aug 2013 08:49:53
Haven't seen today's papers, but having seen that Luis Suarez is allegedly ready to take legal action to force a move through, can't see him taking any part in today's game.
As it's all about Steven Gerrard today, hope he has a great day!

03 Aug 2013 08:23:07
hi eds

not a Liverpool rumour but just read in the mirrior that rafa wants g barry at napoli he really has a liking for that guy, wonder does he still think he could lace xabi alonsos boots. {Ed002's Note - Certain managers do get a thing for players they like.}

Ooo Er Missus ;-) {Ed002's Note - There is a story or two there as well. A coach rather than a manager, and not in this country - and certainly not something for before the watershed.}

Ha ha what some players will do for first team football or, ahem, bigger bonuses. Nuff said.

03 Aug 2013 08:12:26
I am all registered up {Ed002's Note - Welcome Teeno.}

03 Aug 2013 07:54:15
Hi eds great idea having to log in hopefully will stop all the trolls and all the doom and gloom. Anyways was wondering if u had any updates on the Sturridge injury and when he is due back also big day for captain fantastic gutted I'm working and will miss it :( {Ed002's Note - The club has said nothing of the injury recently and no return date has been mentioned just yet - but right now all clubs are quiet on such matters.}

03 Aug 2013 07:37:09
Hi eds and reds from a long time visitor but first time poster from the other side of the planet. Decided it was time to register on the most frustrating yet addictive site I've ever stumbled across.
I've felt like posting a few comments recently in response to some of the posts but it often seems a bit pointless because while you are posting, I'm sleeping and vice versa, so my replies would be 12 hours after the event.
Any way, here's hoping for a fantastic game today to celebrate the great man's career to date, and that LFC and true red fans get the season they deserve, and will remember for all the right reasons.

03 Aug 2013 07:10:45
Eds I know it is still unsure if we have made a bid for Costa or not, but I would be interested to know your thoughts on the player himself. Do you think he will fit in with the mould? Does his disciplinary record concern you etc?

Thanks Somerset Red {Ed002's Note - He has the potential to do something stupid, which would be of concern to most clubs. That is the worry. Don't forget to register.}

Most people have the potential to do something silly. Graham Hunters assessment seemed pretty for to me. Overall could prove to be an astute signing for LFC as there is far more upside in terms of the goals/assists/influence on games he is now showing. Dare I say, he's maturing as a player.

Kidder (have registered but having password problems) {Ed002's Note - Let's hope you can overcome them. I don't know what Hunter has said but you are right that most players have the potential to do something stupid. It is the likelihood of them doing it which is the problem.}

03 Aug 2013 07:02:28
Can someone advise Luis lawyer to keep all body parts well covered or out of reach, if/when he loses his court case

03 Aug 2013 04:03:02
Hi ed, I'm a registered member now, let's have some fun now. I'm a huge fan of this site, first thing in the morning is check the site, keep up with the great work and let's make this a great site. {Ed002's Note - Welcome.}

03 Aug 2013 01:39:09
Yo been a long while but work permits only cruel rest hours, good to see a return to the old banter, whilst getting rid of the fools who have nothing better to do than pick holes in what I would define as the best source of routine solid information on the web, not affected by club bias or agenda, keep up the good work eds the changes are excellent

03 Aug 2013 01:28:55
eds I've been told suarez is staying by a member of the curent squad he told me luis will anounce it next week alse been told two more signings one from spain and one from germany he said one is very exciting hope stevie has great day tommorrow

Hi, I don't want to start a negative trend on your post but I just wanted to know why you chose such an extreme username? Of course, everyone is entitled to their view on owners, managers and players but surely, just because you would like different owners, doesn't warrant 'FSG Out' banners etc. They may not be yours or everyone's ideal owners but they are by no means awful and to some of us we think they are doing a fantastic job and are the perfect owners. Just sharing some thoughts so no offence intended. Cheers {Ed002's Note - We have to accept that some folks have differing views Bryan and we should listen if they have a sensible case to put. Perhaps posters who are against the owners will change their mind in the year to come - maybe they will see the light and seek redemption.}

Sorry ed but I have to agree with Bryan Red if your username is fsgout and your giving transfer rumours people will be less likely to believe you but I do accept the op has a right to an opinion though, I'm just thinking logically. {Ed002's Note - We can work through the season to see if we can bring the poster round. Help them cleanse their thoughts and see the light.}

The age old saying 'be careful what you wish for' comes to mind! Chuckle! Totally agree Ed, and as I said I don't mean any disrespect to the poster. I do enjoy reading the differing opinions, it's what makes it such a great game. Here's hoping time changes some views and the owners efforts reap rewards. Thanks yet again. I think I've had more replies today than in my previous 6-8 years ;-)

03 Aug 2013 01:04:09
Hi folks, I'm just going to try and compare our two main rivals' teams to ours. I am including in this what I think each team will end up with for example: I think Bale will leave for Madrid so I'm not including him in their team. Also I think we will have Aly Cissokho so he will be in ours. Okay here we go.

GK Mignolet/Szcezney/Lloris

I think that it's pretty obvious that the best keeper here is Lloris. He is the first choice French keeper at just 25/6 years old and has many more years at WHL if they match his winning mentality. Mignolet is above Szcezney IMO but only just. Even though Szcezney is Poland's first choice he has never really been an outstanding keeper in the PL and never been rated as one of the best in the league.

Lloris > Mignolet > Szcezney

Spurs 3; Liverpool 1; Arsenal 0

RB: Johnson/Walker/Sagna

In my opinion we have the better full back here. Whilst Walker and Sagna are both very good full backs I still think for the attacking football that all three teams possess and have to try and play to become a dominant force you'd take Glen Johnson's attacking ability over the others any day of the week. Whilst Sagna is a very good defensive full back he offers very little going forward and nowadays, even with his experience, he seems to still have those little mistakes in him that costs his teams goals. Walker is still behind Johnson in the England pecking order but I do think he'll overtake him soon. In time, Walker will be much better but for now, Johnson all day.

Johnson > Walker > Sagna

Liverpool 4; Spurs 4; Arsenal 0

CB: Papadopoulous & Agger/ Kaboul & Vertonghen/ Vermearlen & Koscielny

On paper, I think Arsenal have the greatest defence but football has never played to those rules. Throughout the course of last season Vertonghen was by far the best defender in the league, bar none. He absolutely carried that Spurs defence and also was very capable with handing out goals for his team too. Kaboul on the other hand hardly played a game, infact I think it was 1 after being sidelined by injury. He was a great player the previous season and if he is somehow up for sale I would snap him up quicker than you can shout Papadopoulous! Arsenal's 2 centre backs, as I said, are very good on paper but last season Vermealen was dropped in favour of Mertesacker, and without being disrespectful, if you're known as a top defender and you're getting replaced by Mertesacker I really can't see you being that impressive. Koscielny is actually a very very good defender but even when sided with Vermealen I can't see them bettering Liverpool's or Spur's defence. Papadopoulous adds that steal to the Liverpool defence that has been lacking ever since Kenny Dalglish dropped Jamie in favour of Skrtel, yes you could say Skrtel is a powerhouse but he does get manhandled a lot, and that was proved against Matt Smith of Oldham and Benteke of Villa. He can't handle the big guys very well at all.

Kaboul & Vertonghen > Papadopoulous & Agger > Koscielny & Vermealen

Spurs 7; Liverpool 5; Arsenal 0

LB: Assou-Ekotto/ Jose Enrique/ Monreal

This is pretty much simple for anyone to guess which is the better left back. Monreal sweeps this category all day long. Even spurs fans hate the fact that they still hold onto BAE and Liverpool fans are still trying to discover whether Enrique is terrible or incredible.

Monreal > Enrique > Assou-Ekotto

Spurs 7; Liverpool 6; Arsenal 3

CM: Paulinho, Sandro, Dembele/ Wilshere, Cazorla, Arteta/ Gerrard, Lucas,

Another really hard category just like the CB one. I am in absolute fear of that Spurs midfield, it has absolutely everything you want, they can keep the ball for days and with dembele and paulinho's attacking ability as well as defensive ability sitting infront of a rock like Sandro they really don't lack in any department. Arsenal are also in the same boat just without the toughness which I think is the only thing that let's them down. If they kept hold of Song I feel like they have a world class midfield but I just don't think Arteta suits that DM role for the PL even though I do really like him he's just not as good as Song and not suited to that role considering the toughness of the PL. Gerrard and Lucas match eachother very well but I think out of all the defensive midfielders Lucas is just not up to par. If he is replaced with a better defensive midfielder like Gustavo [Yes it's unlikely but just for the sake of argument] then Liverpool are just as good if not better than the other two.

Paulinho, Sandro, Dembele > Wilshere, Cazorla, Arteta > Gerrard, Lucas,

Spurs 10; Liverpool 6; Arsenal 4

Wingers: Lamela & Chadli/ Coutinho & Sterling/ Walcott & Podolski

This is another hard category but mostly because I'm taking into account how the new Spurs players will bed into the PL, they aren't your typical PL winger but that hasn't stopped Hazard and Mata from excelling! I think both are incredible wingers and will prove to be great replacements; between them; for Bale. I think whilst Sterling has improved a lot from last year he still has a lot to go to become a top winger but I also think that Coutinho is by far the best player out of the whole lot, even at the ripe age of 21! Whilst Podolski is mainly a striker he has been used on the left of a front 3 all last season and I believe he has done pretty well there by chipping up with important goals but he is not someone who's going to take your team to the next level and neither is Walcott.

Lamela & Chadli > Coutinho & Sterling > Podolski & Walcott

Spurs 13; Liverpool 7; Arsenal 4

ST: Soldado & Defoe/ Sturridge & Costa/ Giroud & Suarez

Now before I get into it, yes I know I've put Suarez going to Arsenal but I really believe Arsenal NEED a good striker and you don't really get a chance to get someone as good as Suarez WANTING to go to your team every day so they must snap it up!

In my opinion Suarez is by far the best player here, he's got everything in his locker and everyone on here knows that so i'm not going to into further detail, saying that, Ii also think Giroud is the worst. His touch is poor and his finishing is just dreadful, he has great link up play and he has an eye for a pass but he's just not up to scratch for top 4 IMO. Costa and Sturridge complement eachother extremely well. Costa will be the hustle and bustle kinda guy whilst Sturridge will leach onto everything Costa has to knock on or thread through. Perfect match and IMO will create and score a lot of goals between them. Soldado is the best pure finisher in this group but Defoe is also a very similar player. I don't think they'd complement each other very well but I also don't think they're going to actually play together. Saying that, Ii still think a strikeforce of Costa/Sturridge is better than a lone Soldado.

Costa & Sturridge > Suarez & Giroud > Soldado

Spurs 13; Liverpool 10; Arsenal 5

With this said, it's obviously how the team plays at the end of the day but I do believe that this is how the fight will go down. Spurs will finish 4th, Liverpool 5th and Arsenal 6th.

BthekingB

03 Aug 2013 08:45:46
hope this is wrong but then if suarez goes to arsenal and we don't get top 4 it will be a case of aba.

It makes no sense you've put players in teams that haven't even signed. Don't take it personal but its the most stupid post I've ever read. Comparing players from totally different leagues and rating them out of 10 to show our squad is strong/weak? I can't believe the Eds even posted it.
DBol {Ed002's Note - It was posted because clearly there had been a lot of effort put in. If it sparks good discussion then it is doing no harm. The poster, like you, needs to register of course. This is also happy post day DBol.}

Im sorry I know you probably worked hard but what drivel

billynwa {Ed002's Note - Don't forget to register Bill, and remember this is Happy Post Day.}

People in the real world don't sign a new long-term contract to get more money (in this case £6M a year!) and then sulk around like petulant children because their employer expects them to actually work for them in return rather than accede to their every wish.

03 Aug 2013 10:34:36
Well it certainly would be hard playing against the arsenal and spurs teams you've put forward as they are both fielding 12 whilst we remain with the traditional 11. Can see why Gerrard and Lucas would have their hands full. Is this a new handicapped version of the epl to negate the effect of the Kop?

Think you have to factor in the effect that losing Bale, will have on Spurs, they rely on him too much, or did .

03 Aug 2013 00:51:26
Alright Lads, regular visitor but a first time poster here.!

It's our Captain Fantastic's day. I really hope he gets all the respect and affection he deserves. For me he is what LFC represents. Any team in the world would be lucky to have Gerrard. Its a pefect match, a truly great player who loves and bleeds LFC and the greatest fans in the world who love and adore him equally.
P.S. don't Think anyone would be booing Suarez as the fans are going to busy singing "YNWA" and songs about the one and only Steven Gerrard, Its his day afterall!
A 30yrd screamer from Gerrard will be so apt!
Cheers
YNWA!

First post but a top one exactly right

Madsocks

03 Aug 2013 00:26:53
Is there another Liverpool Rumours fantasy football league this year?

If there is a code out there, please list it.

TY in advance.

03 Aug 2013 00:17:25
Did anyone else find Wenger's recent comments disrespectful to Liverpool. As if Liverpool have accepted Suarez's behavaviour acceptable?!


Wenger said that if Suarez does become an Arsenal player, such behaviour will not be tolerated.

He said: "We have values that we want our players to respect. No matter where they come from, we will be very touchy on that of course"

Gidgo

I am a Liverpool fan, but Liverpool have accepted his behaviour. Look at the way he was supported after he racially abused evra. Liverpool should of took a stronger stance with the player. And look the way he repays us. I think we look a bit silly now!
Mike gilbo.

I was thinking the same thing. Like Liverpool agree with biting someone?! What an old fool.

London red {Ed002's Note - Don't forget to register LR.}

03 Aug 2013 08:11:34
wenger is doing his best not to get the player in case Liverpool call his bluff and except their offer, which had no respect for Liverpool either. {Ed002's Note - Their interest is serious Tommy.}

03 Aug 2013 10:32:18
I did take offense as well. And the fact that he was quite happy to talk about somebody else's player as well.
But having said that, I do believe that if you manage a football club then you have to be a hypocrite in some respects.
Its part of the job criteria due to the tribal nature of the sport.
If we sell to Arsenal now then it has to be for close to £60 million pounds.
Also if we do sell Luis then Ian Ayre will be made to look like a right tit!
I think everyone at Liverpool is praying for a Madrid bid soon.

I think Wenger is right to say that, as it sends out the right message, players earning huge wages should behave themselves, as for the evra mess, I think Suarez was set up, as for the biting, I would have subbed him right away .

03 Aug 2013 00:06:54
I have tried to register but now it won't recognise my password. Now none of my posts will come through.
Do you suppose It's because I'm doing it via a mobile phone?

Would appreciate any advice eds as I'd really like the option to post. {Ed001's Note - it could be, there are so many different phones, on differing operating systems, and different versions of the different operating systems, that it is difficult to get anything to work on all of them.}

02 Aug 2013 23:43:19
It's time for Suarez to be sold 35-40m . Regardless he needs to sold.

Get rid, can't have players disrespecting the club nor us the fans!

No need to support a player that thinks he can pickup his pay cheques whilst publicly courting other clubs to engineer a move away.

If he feels so abhorrent about putting on our crest then he is a disgrace.

We all know the team needs strengthening, but did he help us get into the CL whilst he playing for us!? No

In fact, he spent abject amount of time not playing due to his own stupid misdemeanours.

I don't have any time for selfish, disinterested, disingenuous players, . He is typical of one simply putting his own interests before the club.

Like I've always said, players come and go, they are simply temporary employees at the club. It he doesn't like it here then he should be barred from the club and sold at the clubs behest.

I say we won't make CL next year and will remain midtable. I don't see any progress being made at all, especially with the current owners and manager.

However, we need to get rid of all the players that want out and build a team in the future that becomes capable of challenging, with a winning mentality.


M

Very true, M, but let's PRETEND we don't want him to leave and then reluctantly accept 50m from one of the clubs with more money than business sense.

A bit of a negative post. Agree with you about saurez. However, the football we are playing, the amount of goals scored last year to previous season and the fact we finished the season stronger than we started it, shows there is progress being made. Keep your chin up and be more positive.

Why do people spout nonsense. It does matter on fee and where he goes. We are not mugs and other clubs shouldn't get an easy ride because of one goofy players petulance.

CC {Ed002's Note - Don't forget to register.}

02 Aug 2013 23:30:38
Hi ed/eds

All registered

02 Aug 2013 23:24:38
Gnarly I'm in! I've been coming to this site for three years daily, if not multiple times a day. The Ed's do a wonderful job, thank you.

I can't help but to think of the excellent way we finished the season and how optimistic I was for this season back then. I love the young impact type players we have, so exciting to watch as I think we have seen moments of in pre season.

Looking forward to tomorrow's match and for the beginning of the new campaign.

A Canadian wishing Stevie "G" a great day!

02 Aug 2013 22:56:52
Thanks for all your work Eds, much appreciated {Ed001's Note - cheers.}

02 Aug 2013 22:53:15
Its red wine Friday so its got me thinking we support Liverpool FC not Suarez FC so if he wants to go we let him go if he stays we support him. let's support LFC we've had strikers before and will have strikers again.
The King is dead long life the King

02 Aug 2013 22:40:17
Roll on August 17th . can't wait for the new season, got a really good feeling about it .Just get a good start and I really think we will be challenging this year . The new recruits are looking promising . Only need popodopulas and the jigsaw may be complete . So come on lads do us proud and bring us some silverware .
Great job Ed's, Rodgers, F.S.G and the lads .

02 Aug 2013 22:42:46
I would register but when I try to it tells me it's going to put cookies on my phone.

WTF? I'm not down with the techno-kids so I can only assume that having 'cookies' on your phone is a bad thing?

Ron Manager {Ed002's Note - There are some real neat cookies out there. Google Alice B Toklas and then tell us you don't want to sign up.}

I so love the choc chip cookies, yummy

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