Liverpool Banter Archive October 03 2010
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03 Oct 2010 23:55:17
Why not sack sammy lee and bring in kenny daglish in his role as assistant. . maybe we will start getting a grip of players then and start winning more games
03 Oct 2010 23:54:57
Need to sell johnson sign this miguel from valencia as a first team right back
sign a striker such as lukaku or mihlevskiy
we would be laughin then line up
reina
miguel carra kyrgiakos konchesky
poulsen
miereles cole
gerrard
lukaku/ mihlevskiy/ kuyt torres
subs;
jones
agger
skrtel
lucas
babel
jovanovic
shelvey
and am not just saying kyrgiakos because he scored today i personally think he's a good solid centre back and always wins the ball in the air
03 Oct 2010 23:51:52
We need a harry Redknapp at the club. Harry Redknapp to get the managers job.
03 Oct 2010 23:49:44
Blair Mayne your a manu fan? here to take the piss
03 Oct 2010 23:45:50
I tried to blame the owners on what was happening on the pitch at the momment. But now it seems to be the players/ manager.
Just my opinion BUT when we get new owners it won't supprise me IF Rafa/ legend come's back.
Blair ( LFC TILL I DIE) YNWA
03 Oct 2010 23:45:38
It's a f*ckin joke how we played today & all the blame lies with Hodgson. Playing Blackpool at home is a no brainer, it's not the same excuse you can use playing against bigger teams or even Everton! We are a team in transition! Balls, this was Blackpool! I'm sorry ed but the one thing you expect from a new boss is to instill a bit of enthusiasm from the players! That's got nothing to do with players he's inherited. Motivational skills & tactics are Hodgsons department & he has failed big time. Keep this up Ed & you might well see us end up in the championship without turning into a Chelsea or City.
The very pissed off Irish Rover {ed's note - I would rather that than be a Chelsea or City. But I do understand what you are saying, he does need to motivate the players better from the start.}
03 Oct 2010 23:45:33
My list of possible new lfc managers:
Markus Babbel
Ottmar Hitzfeld
Jose Mourinho
Luiz Felipe Scolari
Guus Hiddink
Zola
H Redknapp
Glenn Hoddle
Martin O'Neill
Roy Evans
Gus Poyet
Sven-Göran Eriksson
Arrigo Sacchi
Gary Megson
I want Markus Babbel back at the club, hes in germany at the moment, 38 managin Hertha BSC
03 Oct 2010 23:39:15
Dickie Di Dohexcellent post long may king kenny reign in our memories an not become a fall guy for our shortcomings this season.
we are in a terrible situation an our only hope is the buy out and new faces in january to lift a club that is now officially on its arse.Roy god bless him is showing signs of strain and if reports are true he doesn't know if he can change the fortunes of the greatest club in the world then i hope he keeps his dignity an doesn't deserve to be hounded out by so called fans - this is liverpool we do not hound out managers and players we support them throu the wind and rain - roy will know if he is the man to restore us or even just to stop the rot as when we get new owners they will want their own man to run the club and this may or may not be roy.
at least after the half time team talk we showed some guts and passion and tried to move the ball quicker - admittedly it was too late and we left ourselves open at the back - but roy's team talk seemed to have an effect.maybe we lay off roy an ask the players to take a long hard look at themselves, how many could say they deserve their huge paypacket this week?
be loud be proud and be red till yer dead
bigg2966
Excellent post mate, spot on!
Irish Kev
The only post on here that I have read that makes any sense! !
Sio LFC
03 Oct 2010 23:37:29
TEAM OVERHAUL.
reina
kelly ayala (i know he's on loan) agger mavinga
shelvey gerrard meireles
amoo pacheco cole
I'd like to see the youngsters play now. In my opinion we need a complete overhaul in the team. With the league looking extremely poor, I feel the youngsters should be played as they've nothing to lose.
Let's concentrate on one of the other competitions and hope we can bring back some silverware, making the season look OK on paper.
ed? {ed's note - it is what should have been done from the start, young players with nothing to lose and everything to play for.}
03 Oct 2010 23:36:02
It is being repored that David Fairclough has had a Heart Attack and is in hospital in Southport.
Get well soon supersub!
Fabian Treezle
03 Oct 2010 23:35:06
Wat a disgrace the players should be fined 2 weeks wages. im sorry roy job to big for you bring in the king now be4 its to late.
03 Oct 2010 23:28:06
Dear Roy, please work on your tactics, we are playing at home against Blackpool who conceded 10 goals away at Arsenal and chelsea and you start the game with no width at all and a team that included 4 central midfield player which also included Christian poulsen. When you take the starting line up into account was there any need for lucas on the bench?
Why did your team today not include Maxi from kick off just to give us a wide player to poss stretch the play and poss worry the opsition or did we play for a draw from kick off?
Marco.
03 Oct 2010 23:25:32
What is wrong with it is that they didn't support the team. Simple?
The good points he asked was very simple: How do you think that protests will make any difference?
The spokesman was clueless. Kept repeating & mumbling the same rubbish that it will but never elaborated. NI was never mentioned mate (just hinted at heavily - so you names it first), it is not the same thing you're right & i am from Ireland myself hence my name Irish Kev & my mother & her family come from up there so there was certainly no malice intended so not meant to be tasteful / tasteless i guarantee you. But you clearly just want to find arguement with me on practically everything. Probably cause i called you arrogant earlier but i'm willing to apologise for that if you want to prove me wrong. But it is a comparison i do know something about & can see some similarities in certain areas with some of it. I can promise you / anyone there was NO side swipe at anyone on NI. I love Ireland (both North & South) & Ireland will always be my home regardless of where i live & work or the team i support. And no, in case you or anyone asks, i don't have any particular political / religious views on it.
I wish all those problems would go away in fact. So Fabian, sorry if you don't agree but that's my ten pence worth anyway. I am NOT always right by any stretch of the imagination, but i do have my opinions.
Its a site for opinions after all. I always respect other peoples opinions in return unless they become abusive / they won't shift on any of their opinions. From what i've seen on here you fall into the 2nd catagory. But until you reply i'll give you the benefit of the doubt & am happy to apologise for calling you arrogant if you prove me wrong. But its no big deal either way for me mate.
Cheers,
Irish Kev
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Irish Kev, trust me I have no issue with you at all. As you say this is a site for opinions, I have mine and you have yours. It just happens I don't agree with most of yours, but that doesn't mean I hate you or have any problem with you at all. I understand how I may come across as arrogant, but I just wholeheartedly believe in my opinions and will argue for them until someone presents real evidence or reason to convince me otherwise.
By the way I was born in Belfast, live in Belfast and work in Belfast and have done so all my life. I get a bit irritated when people relate/ compare what has/ is happening here to something it should never be related/ compared to.
Liverpool F C is special always has been, always will be. It cannot be compared to here.
I look forward to our little 'debates'.
Good Luck my friend
Fabian Treezle
03 Oct 2010 23:25:19
Alan Hansen said that you don't win anything with kids. We can't win anything with 'grown-ups' so lets try the kids. I really thought that Pacheco would be given a good chance this season but no! Why not try Mavinga instead of No. 23 (I can't even bring myself to mentioning his name now), Wilson instead of Sktrtel and anyone instead of Poulsen, Lucas, Babel, etc. I've written before that Roy Hodgson doesn't even put any of the younger players on the bench - absolutely ridiculous. A lot of them will already know that they are better than some in the first team and are going to get as frustrated as the rest of us and leave. Things will get better but I am getting on in years and would like to see it before I go and join Bill and Bob.
Mal 8
03 Oct 2010 23:17:31
It has now become a case of WHEN dalglish takes the managerial job. hopefully he plays more attacking football. and should get rid of crap players not helping the cause(i.e. johnson, lucas, maxi, babel, etc.) Maybe he will start giving the youth players starts now instead of cameos. Of course, we all know pacheco, kelly, shelvey, wilson, amoo are very talented. they could become starters with dalglish. IF the takeover happens, Dalglish could bring in the players that he suggested to Hodgson (Turan, Banega, etc.). And maybe a decent striker and left back. unlike hodgson signing poulsen. maybe i'm saying all this stuff because we just lost. . to BLACKPOOL. still, Hodgson should never had the job. no wonder Dalglish wanted to put his name in the managerial candidate list. Ed, agree with me, or is blood just rushing in my head? How about other people in here? do you agree? {ed's note - Dalglish was never in the running, even though he desperately wanted the job.}
03 Oct 2010 23:15:57
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03 Oct 2010 23:14:59
03 Oct 2010 23:00:58
Press Believable if you want Hodgson to get sacked, and replaced if you want Kenny Dalglish as the new manager. Press Unbelievable if you still want Hodgson to get sacked, but you want somebody else as manager
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I've tried to stick up for Roy but my confidence is running thin. I'll be supprised IF he lasts to January.
Blair mayne YNWA
03 Oct 2010 23:08:43
I bet LFC to draw with Birmingham at 9/ 4 then today i bet Blackpool 7/ 1 with my best friend who own's a bookie's. No bulsh*it i made money.
It's not i'm putting LFC down BUT at the minute it's just a good bet.
Ed my mate give's good tips somtimes is it ok to post them here? IF people want to try a flutter then it's up to them.
Blair Mayne YNWA
PS. The last 2 horse tips they have both won, the last one was 5-1. {ed's note - it's fine mate, feel free to post them.}
03 Oct 2010 22:57:43
Irish Kev this was an old post by gazman i dug up. . SMF
Damn it!
Knew something was up :)
Cheers,
Irish Kev
03 Oct 2010 22:55:58
Christ but we're in the sh1t.
I thought Roy would stabilise the footballing side of the club but it's actually going even more tits up.
I fully realise that a new manager with new ideas and a few new players need time to gell but I'm seeing nothing tactically different to last season and I'm certainly not seeing a group of players looking like they're working their knackers off to impress their new manager.
I'm starting to think that maybe Roy is somewhat out of his depth here and his spell at Blackburn is beginning to look positively storming.
Poulsen?? FFS. .I'm actually crying out for Lucas to be in there instead of him!
Frenchy
03 Oct 2010 22:55:37
David fairclough has apparently had a heart attack {ed's note - get well soon David!}
This is not meant in a smart way, but hope it wasn't directly due to today's game.
Poor guy if true - seems like a very nice guy!
Have a speedy recovery David.
Irish Kev
03 Oct 2010 22:55:29
I said when mascherano leaves liverpool we really be in trouble, because he covered up many of back fours mistakes. Now we see how poor they really are.
03 Oct 2010 22:52:41
Two words:WERE SCREWED
3 words really. .
03 Oct 2010 22:51:10
Just watched the highlights on motd2. seems like glen johnson is to blame for the two blackpool goals. stupid foul for the penalty and played the blackpool onside for the second goal.
do you agree ed? {ed's note - the whole defence was to blame, they were all embarrassingly poor, and I include Poulsen in that as he is pretty much a defender. Not one of them has a clue about positional play and they don't have the pace to make up for it.}
03 Oct 2010 22:50:17
Irish Kev this was an old post by gazman i dug up. . SMF
03 Oct 2010 22:50:10
Two words:WERE SCREWED
03 Oct 2010 22:48:12
Sometimes a marriage doesn't work, do lets get devorced. Let him go back to managing fulham, we need real top class manager to lead a medico team to glory.
For richer for poorer
In Sickness and in health !
SOMETIMES IF YOU GIVE IT PAST THE HONEYMOON IT DOES WORK. .
by the way medico are Care workers for pensioners?
SMF
03 Oct 2010 22:46:46
I wasn't sure about his appointment to begin with and I don't know any reds who actually wanted him, but having said that, the man won the manager of the year last year voted by his peers. Come on Liverpool, we will be back soon enough. With new owners, a new stadium - along with the revenue that that brings - we will be back at the top in a couple of years.
YNWA
Gazman
WELL SAID GAZMAN
THE FIRST BIT OF SENSE YOUVE COME OUT WITH !
REMEMBER? SMFCant be the real Gazman surely.
Thought you'd deserted the site after previous posts.
Look i'm ready to bury the hatchet if you are & agree to disagree, nicely.
Rafa is gone & i for one want to move on.
Your beloved,
Irish Kev
03 Oct 2010 22:44:41
Blackpool result is a new low.
I visit the official LFC web site alot and I think they should get rid of the 18 titles and 5 european cups logo.
We know our history and LFC fans are proud of it, but at the moment LFC are in a regulation battle.
03 Oct 2010 22:43:38
03 Oct 2010 21:15:44
{ed's note - I have said many times that I disagree completely with protesting at matches. I don't see that it brings anything positive to the club at all, and it certainly has no effect on H&G who are still getting people's ticket money.}I didn't want to say it first in case i started a riot but couldn't agree more.
Did you see the spokesman on SSN earlier?
He was interviewed aggressively but i think the interviewer had good points to which i think the answers were a bit clueless. Almost like the blind leading the blind. What can possibly be learned from protesting over & over again that wasn't learned the first time?!
The take over will happen if its meant to happen, not cause of protests. The "fans" have no voice on the board & that's the way its going to stay. They should all save their energy for screaming on the players. Its a joke like.
I think myself its almost like in a certain country not a million miles from us (slightly north) where even though there is a peace process in place, & political systems in place to keep the process moving forward there are still a few small groups intent on causing harm. They are just doing it for the sake of it now - but i'm not getting into that one. Too close to home!
Cheers,
Irish Kev.
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The protest today was before the match and after the match. During the match the fans supported the team as they always do. What is wrong with that?
What good points did the interviewer bring up?
What is happening in NI has got no relevance or similarity to what is happening at Liverpool. A poor and tasteless comparison. But you are right we shouldn't go there.
Fabian Treezle
What is wrong with it is that they didn't support the team. Simple?
The good points he asked was very simple: How do you think that protests will make any difference?
The spokesman was clueless. Kept repeating & mumbling the same rubbish that it will but never elaborated. NI was never mentioned mate (just hinted at heavily - so you names it first), it is not the same thing you're right & i am from Ireland myself hence my name Irish Kev & my mother & her family come from up there so there was certainly no malice intended so not meant to be tasteful / tasteless i guarantee you. But you clearly just want to find arguement with me on practically everything. Probably cause i called you arrogant earlier but i'm willing to apologise for that if you want to prove me wrong. But it is a comparison i do know something about & can see some similarities in certain areas with some of it. I can promise you / anyone there was NO side swipe at anyone on NI. I love Ireland (both North & South) & Ireland will always be my home regardless of where i live & work or the team i support. And no, in case you or anyone asks, i don't have any particular political / religious views on it.
I wish all those problems would go away in fact. So Fabian, sorry if you don't agree but that's my ten pence worth anyway. I am NOT always right by any stretch of the imagination, but i do have my opinions.
Its a site for opinions after all. I always respect other peoples opinions in return unless they become abusive / they won't shift on any of their opinions. From what i've seen on here you fall into the 2nd catagory. But until you reply i'll give you the benefit of the doubt & am happy to apologise for calling you arrogant if you prove me wrong. But its no big deal either way for me mate.
Cheers,
Irish Kev
03 Oct 2010 22:41:21
Is Phil Thompson going to come back to the club to help out?
I reckon Gary Megson put some life back into that liverpool team, he is always over looked, but i rate him as a manager.
03 Oct 2010 22:32:33
I have a funny feeling we may be the new Newcastle.
03 Oct 2010 22:21:49
If we lose at everton, will people start believing how dammed we really are.
Its a sinking ship in liverpool.
The Everton game is all or nothing affiar.
03 Oct 2010 22:20:35
I wasn't sure about his appointment to begin with and I don't know any reds who actually wanted him, but having said that, the man won the manager of the year last year voted by his peers. Come on Liverpool, we will be back soon enough. With new owners, a new stadium - along with the revenue that that brings - we will be back at the top in a couple of years.
YNWA
Gazman
WELL SAID GAZMAN
THE FIRST BIT OF SENSE YOUVE COME OUT WITH !
REMEMBER? SMF
03 Oct 2010 22:18:01
{ed's note - I just object to someone abusing people for having a different point of view and then whinging about it being expressed. Football is all about opinions, just because someone has a different one it doesn't mean they know nothing about the sport.}Couldn't agree more ed,
Cheers,
Irish Kev {ed's note - no worries mate.}
03 Oct 2010 22:16:07
CAHILL 3 1 EVERTON PUT YA MORTGAGE ON IT ha ha ha Aha
NO youll find CAHILL NOT 31 TILL 6th December. .
BLUEBELL END. . . SMF
I will not put my mortgage on Cahill beating Everton 3 1
Everton will have eleven players, now Cahill is a good player in his own right but not that good :)
Thanks for the tip though,
What next? Bet my car on Superman to become Moyes' next wife? Good bet that. . .
Cheers,
Irish Kev
03 Oct 2010 22:12:06
Roy Hodgson is old-style manager, doesn't up set the team, plays 442 zonal and keeps a steady ship. He isn't a good manager, hes a ok manager. He does the basics very well.
We need someone who can motivate the team, deal with media better and bring confidance around the place regardless of whats going on in the boardroom. The talking is done on the pitch. So far iv seen liverpool back towards the darkages with hodgson in charge. His tactical decisions making has been wrong, he not getting those players to do what they are capable of.
Sometimes a marriage doesn't work, do lets get devorced. Let him go back to managing fulham, we need real top class manager to lead a medico team to glory.
03 Oct 2010 22:10:32
Hodgeson out. im f*cking furious. This is the worst day i've ever had as a Liverpool fan. Where are you f*cking muppets who wanted rafa out now? You were wrong. BOLLOX TO YOU ALL, you know nothing about football. Go back to youe xbox's you gimps. I wouldn't be surpised if we go down and it will be your fault.
Gazman {ed's note - no, it will be people like you who still think Rafa was the answer when what was needed was him kicked out years ago.}
'people like me'? WTF? what are you? an Editor of a website? or a Man U fan? 2 years ago we finnished 2nd you muppet. Anyway, I'm sick of your random comments, shove your site mate.And Kev, stop being silly mate - you are obviously a child.
Gazman {ed's note - yeah ok, you have just proved my point. We came second when the league was in our grasp because Rafa threw it away with his negative tactics. But you just carry on throwing your toys out of your pram and abusing everyone who disagrees with your opinion like you are doing and then bitching about the fact that someone dares to disagree and accuse them of being a United fan. There is definitely one child here and I don't think it is Kev.}
Wow. .holy mother of shi*!
WTF?! ha !
Thanks for the support ed.
You're right ed, i am 31 years old (a child at heart though maybe :) )
Seriously though, we are better off with the Gazwoman sort of fan!
Not a true fan!
Awesome site, keep up the good work eds.
Irish Kev. {ed's note - I just object to someone abusing people for having a different point of view and then whinging about it being expressed. Football is all about opinions, just because someone has a different one it doesn't mean they know nothing about the sport.}
03 Oct 2010 22:00:59
03 Oct 2010 21:46:44
"Hodgson started well with the signing of Joe Cole, but get him out and get someone who will inspire confidence and not sign players like poulsen. Maybe a former player?"
Hi, i don't think Joe Cole was hodgsons signing, i think he was already being courted by lfc before hodgson turned up. His signing have been christian Poulson paul konchesky raul meireles. who have all been poor signings.
Also you can't blame him about mascherano, aquilani, insua, Philipp Degen, Albert Riera, Yossi Benayoun, most of them where heading out of lfc before he turned up or issues with payments ect, politics
-as i see it, lfc have cut the playin staff down to bare-bones,
-Poulson, konchesky, meireles are not right quality for us. wasted money
i think the club expect roy to have quality starting 11 and then to use youth players to fill in squad deepth. At the moment the youth are not good enough to keep the squad competitive.
03 Oct 2010 22:00:11
I'm a season-ticket holder of more than 33 years standing; home and away games; in and out of Europe with us over the past three decades. So maybe I know a little bit about supporting the club. I'm 52"
52" whats that 4 foot 4. .not very tall are you.
Ed sorry but " i love it "
No im not Kevin Keegan
03 Oct 2010 21:52:29
L0L! Gazman, you are one annoying yet very amusing dude. Enjoy your night ed(S) and evryone.
Red bl00ded!
03 Oct 2010 21:49:13
I would like to thank rafa for the work he has done around liverpool and his family has done for the community. He improved the playing squad with the vast amounts of money supplied. Then he left when he saw the ship was sinking.
Thank you rafa, but i understand how the rats leave a sinking ship. When you see your captin jump off the ship before the crew. what do you want people like torres and gerrard to do. Im supprised they stayed, but we both know they where lied to about money and new players coming soon.
The frustrating thing is, that we know lfc are more than cabable of beating likes of blackpool. Blackpool where first on my list of teams to go down. The fans see how the team should play, but hodgson chooses to make strange tactical decisions. He has been likened to rafa in that sense.
It hasnt worked out with Hodgson, if hodgson needs extra coaching staff, better people around him. he needs to act now. maybe bring back rafa's fittness guy. Otherwise, its time for Harry Redknapp to take control of LFC, and lead us into europe again. He is able to get teams playing and we have the quality.
03 Oct 2010 21:48:31
I think roy hodgeson is a good manager, he got fulham to europa final. but he can not manage a top club like liverpool. he is used to average players like he bought poulsen who is a pile of s* *. i think we need peligrinni as manager.
jick
03 Oct 2010 21:46:44
Hodgson started well with the signing of Joe Cole, but get him out and get someone who will inspire confidence and not sign players like poulsen. Maybe a former player?
03 Oct 2010 21:45:42
Maybe it's time for a new generation at Liverpool. Out with Hodgson, Lee, H&G, and in with Dalglish as manager and coaching roles for former legends such as Rush, Macca, maybe even Fowler? get rid of dead wood, there's no point in having players warming benches when they are the equivalent to millions in the bank. Surely the first 11-15 players are meant to be good players, and the next 10 or so teenagers or players in their early twenties who will cut it in a few years? or maybe we should have 30 mediocre players in the squad, all of them having already reached their peaks, IE Jovanovic, Kuyt, Poulsen. Time for LFC to unite and bring it together, for pity's sake! I'm sure I'm not alone when I say I'm tired of being the laughing stock of the Premier League!
03 Oct 2010 21:42:32
Hodgeson out. im f*cking furious. This is the worst day i've ever had as a Liverpool fan. Where are you f*cking muppets who wanted rafa out now? You were wrong. BOLLOX TO YOU ALL, you know nothing about football. Go back to youe xbox's you gimps. I wouldn't be surpised if we go down and it will be your fault.
Gazman {ed's note - no, it will be people like you who still think Rafa was the answer when what was needed was him kicked out years ago.}
'people like me'? WTF? what are you? an Editor of a website? or a Man U fan? 2 years ago we finnished 2nd you muppet. Anyway, I'm sick of your random comments, shove your site mate.And Kev, stop being silly mate - you are obviously a child.
Gazman {ed's note - yeah ok, you have just proved my point. We came second when the league was in our grasp because Rafa threw it away with his negative tactics. But you just carry on throwing your toys out of your pram and abusing everyone who disagrees with your opinion like you are doing and then bitching about the fact that someone dares to disagree and accuse them of being a United fan. There is definitely one child here and I don't think it is Kev.}
03 Oct 2010 21:41:59
03 Oct 2010 21:17:27
CAHILL 3 1 EVERTON PUT YA MORTGAGE ON IT ha ha ha Aha
NO youll find CAHILL NOT 31 TILL 6th December. .
BLUEBELL END. . . SMF
03 Oct 2010 21:39:06
The club is at war: the off the pitch drama is bleeding on to the pitch. nothing will get better untill Hicks leaves and the become happy again. We have supporters full of hate at the moment, which is affecting everyone.
The hurt has to end some how and quickly.
03 Oct 2010 21:38:06
In follow up to my management opinion just my idea of a starting 11 don't know where the money will come from to buy the players we don't have anymore. Just my Opinion :- Reina, Arbeloa, Carragher, Agger, Riise, Luis Garcia, Stevie G, Alonso, Turan with J Cole behind Torres. Subs Bench : Jones, Johnson, Skrtel, Mereiles, Amoo, Kuyt, Cisse.
03 Oct 2010 21:37:15
MUPPETS ALL YOU RED s* tE HAHHha ha LOOK WERE YOU ARE LOVE IT HAVING A GOOD COPLE OF DRINKS INTHE BITTER AND TWISTED CLUB HA HA AHA HA HA HA
Look at where we are?
Oh ya, one place below you lot, oh how proud of yerselves you should be.
Make the most of it now.
In case you've forgotten you lot are 17th.
There are how many games gone? 7.
We'll see come May who is where numbnuts!
Kev
03 Oct 2010 21:36:45
If i were an evert0nian id be enj0ying this too, because truth is no matter how poor we are we always manage to beat evert0n. I kinda feel sorry for them. The clock is ticking, enjoy yourselves you bitter toffees.
Red bl00ded!
03 Oct 2010 21:36:42
Ok, roy hodgson was the wrong man for the managers position. We need to bring in Harry Redknapp.
Harry Redknapp would be able to save our team, like he has done with tottenham, remeber a couple of seasons ago; couldnt buy a point to begining of the season.
Harry Redknapp is my man for lfc job. He knows how to put a good footballing side together, he knows how to bring youth players through, he knows how to fight himself out of relegation battle. At this point in time we need a english pit bull in charge of lfc. Knock some of those massive egos into check and get us going in the right direction.
I know Harry has a nice number at tottenham, but we need him, we have the history and tradition of big team. Tottenham are wearing our suit for know. We need to get their manager and start fighting in the league.
03 Oct 2010 21:36:27
Wishing a speedy recovery to supersub David Fairclough after having a heart attack today
03 Oct 2010 21:34:35
Does anybody know who the asian girl is that's off blue peter? just wondering!
*theexplodingred*
Yes its Konnie Huk. . don't think she does it anymore.
03 Oct 2010 21:30:45
Dickie Di Dohexcellent post long may king kenny reign in our memories an not become a fall guy for our shortcomings this season.
we are in a terrible situation an our only hope is the buy out and new faces in january to lift a club that is now officially on its arse.Roy god bless him is showing signs of strain and if reports are true he doesn't know if he can change the fortunes of the greatest club in the world then i hope he keeps his dignity an doesn't deserve to be hounded out by so called fans - this is liverpool we do not hound out managers and players we support them throu the wind and rain - roy will know if he is the man to restore us or even just to stop the rot as when we get new owners they will want their own man to run the club and this may or may not be roy.
at least after the half time team talk we showed some guts and passion and tried to move the ball quicker - admittedly it was too late and we left ourselves open at the back - but roy's team talk seemed to have an effect.maybe we lay off roy an ask the players to take a long hard look at themselves, how many could say they deserve their huge paypacket this week?
be loud be proud and be red till yer dead
bigg2966
Excellent post mate, spot on!
Irish Kev
03 Oct 2010 21:30:23
"3 Oct 2010 11:30:30
I'm a season-ticket holder of more than 33 years standing; home and away games; in and out of Europe with us over the past three decades. So maybe I know a little bit about supporting the club. I'm 52"
I thought this guy spoke alot sense, he seems to be sensible guy.
When does it because a case of DAMMEd UTD around liverpool? just wondering how bad one guy can make things at lfc? That wasnt a team display. somethings rotten at the core of that group
03 Oct 2010 21:24:07
I understand what you are saying mate but I think Roy and Raffa are too alike, by that I mean STUBBORN. Roy is following the same path as Raffa with poor team selection week in week out. We have not got strength in depth as our rivals so we should be putting out our best starting 11 for every game even in the league cup and bring on the Pacheos, Amoo and Kellys of the world as subs to get used to playing alongside first team regulars. Pacheo in perticular is a player Kenny rates very highly and I belive would have had more game time under Kennys leadership. When I sit on the kop and hear the team that Roy has chosen instead of buzzing for the match I feel myself begining to worry about what's going to happen, in 30yrs I have never ever worried about team selection. One more thing if kenny was given the job in the summer Poulson Lucas Jancovic and Konchesky would not be at the club, instead kenny would have Wilson in his team alongside Turan who Kenny rates very highly.
I know who I would sooner have in charge.
Red Ak1
Trust me when i say this, i'd love Kenny back too but it'd risk tarnishing his god like status because he would have a bunch of wasters in the squad right now. Thats all i'm saying. I agree with everything you said above though, he wouldn't have wasted millions on Poulsen etc, he'd have given Shelvey his chance (and rightly so). So "Agreed" is what i'd say to your post bar me being nervous of Kenny's name being dragged through the mud.
Cheers,
Irish Kev
03 Oct 2010 21:22:24
Another disappionting season another season of cr'@P another season with just one stiker
another season with the yanks sorry roy your just another plank
03 Oct 2010 21:20:55
Roy well out of his depth not in the same league as rafa as a coach .rafa had to deal with shed loads of off field crap and is still streets ahead of roy the problem was always the people above rafa not rafa himself and that is a fact
03 Oct 2010 21:18:44
Just a reminder that there was no 5 finger salute,
it's not woys fault the players r under peforming.as captain gerrard should b kicking ass
03 Oct 2010 21:17:27
CAHILL 3 1 EVERTON PUT YA MORTGAGE ON IT ha ha ha Aha
03 Oct 2010 21:15:44
{ed's note - I have said many times that I disagree completely with protesting at matches. I don't see that it brings anything positive to the club at all, and it certainly has no effect on H&G who are still getting people's ticket money.}I didn't want to say it first in case i started a riot but couldn't agree more.
Did you see the spokesman on SSN earlier?
He was interviewed aggressively but i think the interviewer had good points to which i think the answers were a bit clueless. Almost like the blind leading the blind. What can possibly be learned from protesting over & over again that wasn't learned the first time?!
The take over will happen if its meant to happen, not cause of protests. The "fans" have no voice on the board & that's the way its going to stay. They should all save their energy for screaming on the players. Its a joke like.
I think myself its almost like in a certain country not a million miles from us (slightly north) where even though there is a peace process in place, & political systems in place to keep the process moving forward there are still a few small groups intent on causing harm. They are just doing it for the sake of it now - but i'm not getting into that one. Too close to home!
Cheers,
Irish Kev.
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The protest today was before the match and after the match. During the match the fans supported the team as they always do. What is wrong with that?
What good points did the interviewer bring up?
What is happening in NI has got no relevance or similarity to what is happening at Liverpool. A poor and tasteless comparison. But you are right we shouldn't go there.
Fabian Treezle
03 Oct 2010 21:15:29
In response to the irish match of the day comment its called the premiership over here and its only on saturdays. Not sundays
No, its actually called "Premier Soccer Saturday".
Its broadcast on Sat evening & Sunday morning.
03 Oct 2010 21:14:42
Ed the only time i post about rafa is when i feel i have to defend him against people who blame him for everything and then say the fans who rate rafa and appreciate what he done for us need to move on. its the fans who slag rafa of that need to move on and find somebody else to blame.soul man.
03 Oct 2010 21:13:46
Ive been a fan for 25 years this is the worst team and football that we have played in that time weve lost to 2 pub teams in aweek what a joke we couldnt pass wind let alone win agame how can this happen to a team that has dominated football up to 19 years ago? il tell u how money grabbing t@ats who call themselves footballers all they care about is hows my hair?do you like my tan?il tell you what you bunch of pri@ks pull on the cherished shirt and show some passion and actully earn your money, your extremley privaliged to be in position and anyone on this website would give their right bollock to be where you are so sort it out! and also a special mention to a mr moores who if it wasnt for him we would not be in this position you money grabbing too face t* t
we need change now before its to late roy is the not the one hes the same as rafa we can't do this with just one striker are you that arrogant?? yes you are
03 Oct 2010 21:07:04
MUPPETS ALL YOU RED s* tE HAHHha ha LOOK WERE YOU ARE LOVE IT HAVING A GOOD COPLE OF DRINKS INTHE BITTER AND TWISTED CLUB HA HA AHA HA HA HA
03 Oct 2010 20:59:56
Plz roy plz go now
03 Oct 2010 20:53:54
Imagine how joe cole is feeling atm, he must be thinking wtf, i could have joined spurs or united. A new low. Stay strong tho.
03 Oct 2010 20:52:43
The Kenny comments are very true mate,
It'd be awful if his name was tarnished by coming back to manage this weak side. I can see it happening though if this continues, simply because he wants it so bad.
Can you imagine if he comes in & we lose 4 or 5 games in a row & then the so called fans / glory hunters (with short memories) come screaming for his blood?
I understand what you are saying mate but I think Roy and Raffa are too alike, by that I mean STUBBORN. Roy is following the same path as Raffa with poor team selection week in week out. We have not got strength in depth as our rivals so we should be putting out our best starting 11 for every game even in the league cup and bring on the Pacheos, Amoo and Kellys of the world as subs to get used to playing alongside first team regulars. Pacheo in perticular is a player Kenny rates very highly and I belive would have had more game time under Kennys leadership. When I sit on the kop and hear the team that Roy has chosen instead of buzzing for the match I feel myself begining to worry about what's going to happen, in 30yrs I have never ever worried about team selection. One more thing if kenny was given the job in the summer Poulson Lucas Jancovic and Konchesky would not be at the club, instead kenny would have Wilson in his team alongside Turan who Kenny rates very highly.
I know who I would sooner have in charge.
Red Ak1
03 Oct 2010 20:44:46
Thanks for your comments ED i totally agree, do you think its a tactical decision or just a lack of confidence. If you remember last year Johnson started the season great but had a few dodgy matches, and later on and looked very nervous the same applies this year. Do you think they should put a more authodox defender Like Kelly at RB and move Johnson to Right midfield. Also with Koncheski at LB ditch the sitting midfielder and move Mireles to center mid with Gerrard. You could either play cole on the left or as a second ST, and start playing a straight 442. We need to find a way of playing more creatively thus using creative players instead of trying to be more defensive. We have to find ways of creating more chances. if you look at the stats on goal they are abissmal. Whats your thoughts {ed's note - I think we need to drop Johnson altogether, I really don't rate him and never have, I was hoping he would prove me wrong but he hasn't unfortunately. As for a holding midfielder, I think they are one of the worst things in modern football, a central midfielder should be capable of supporting both the attack and the defence, if they can't do that job then get rid of them and find someone who can.}
03 Oct 2010 20:43:37
Hodgeson out. im f*cking furious. This is the worst day i've ever had as a Liverpool fan. Where are you f*cking muppets who wanted rafa out now? You were wrong. BOLLOX TO YOU ALL, you know nothing about football. Go back to youe xbox's you gimps. I wouldn't be surpised if we go down and it will be your fault.
Gazman {ed's note - no, it will be people like you who still think Rafa was the answer when what was needed was him kicked out years ago.}
If we do go down, it might rid us of your type of fan & good riddance is all i can say.
You, in fact know nothing about football.
Go follow Inter till Rafa is sacked at the end of this season or next. Then go follow him to wherever he goes next. You support Rafa but not the team & club of LFC. Go with the yanks if ya like you person Gazwoman.
Kev
03 Oct 2010 20:37:23
After talking to a load of sad rafa heads today I just realised that LFC's demise is not just down to Hicks & Gillett but is just as much to do with the sad f*cks who are still living is Alice & wonderland. The greatest conman on earth Rafa, what a conman and still at it in the Irish Independent today. I'm sure Jim Boardman is laughing his head off. What a sad club. So much for holding your heads up high in storms!
Clubfirst.com
03 Oct 2010 20:36:32
TO ALL THE RED s* tE I FEEL SO SO SO SO SO SORRY FOR ALL OF YOU I MEANTEAM IN TURMOIL OWNERS WHO WNT TO TAKE EVERY PENNY OUT OF THE CLUB AND PUT IT IN THE ACCOUNTS MANAGER WHO HASNT GOT A CLUE FANS WHO ARE ALL GLORY HUNTERS AND ME WHO IS THE HAPPIEST MAN ALIVE TO WATCH THAT RED s* tE ACROSS THE PARK PLAYING LIKE THET HA HA JUST 29 MORE GAMES AND YOU WILL BE PLAYING LEEDS NEXT YEAR AND SOUTHAMPTON POS TRAMERE IN YEARS TO COME THE FERRY ACROSS THE MERSEY WILL BE BOOKED UP HA HA HA HA FROM A VERY HAPPY BLUE NOSE
03 Oct 2010 20:36:15
Listened to the game in car today travelling from lpool to watford absolutely p* * * off Roy your time is up. But god help me I don't know who will be good for us. On talksport (the murdoch organ) there were lots of calls on collys programme for MON I don't want his type of football at Anfield (defensive counterattack 1970s forrest) this board appointment of RH does NOT have the pedigree, King Kenny would do for the interim. As much as we all dislike H&G this is not their fault they may not care about our club but these results do not help their barganing position our problems on the field are not about money its about bottle and pride we don't have either. roll on October 15 and we can see a future I hope
03 Oct 2010 20:33:38
Just been reading some of your posts. Roy IS the man to take us foreward. It won't be easy but trust me by Xmas we will be top 6. Remember Whiskey Nose Fergie was one game from the sack and well the rest is history.
Lets keep behind the team. . . . this is our only hope.
Red Ian
03 Oct 2010 20:33:29
{ed's note - I have said many times that I disagree completely with protesting at matches. I don't see that it brings anything positive to the club at all, and it certainly has no effect on H&G who are still getting people's ticket money.}I didn't want to say it first in case i started a riot but couldn't agree more.
Did you see the spokesman on SSN earlier?
He was interviewed aggressively but i think the interviewer had good points to which i think the answers were a bit clueless. Almost like the blind leading the blind. What can possibly be learned from protesting over & over again that wasn't learned the first time?!
The take over will happen if its meant to happen, not cause of protests. The "fans" have no voice on the board & that's the way its going to stay. They should all save their energy for screaming on the players. Its a joke like.
I think myself its almost like in a certain country not a million miles from us (slightly north) where even though there is a peace process in place, & political systems in place to keep the process moving forward there are still a few small groups intent on causing harm. They are just doing it for the sake of it now - but i'm not getting into that one. Too close to home!
Cheers,
Irish Kev.
03 Oct 2010 20:33:18
Didn't think it would be long before the blue* ite crawled out from under their stones! was to be expected as prob the only time this season they will be above us and if you are below Evert*n you are really in the Shi*! . Anyway onto football matters ( time for Bluenoses to switch off). I Really do think we are at our lowest ebb for a good few years although i remember the Souness era when i could afford a season ticket. We still need encouragment instead of slagging off despite Pis* poor Poulsen preventing proper performance! ( I rehearsed that, sorry ). Yes the players get paid far more than most for doing far less but does anyone really think they are playing badly DELIBERATELY?! they are rock bottom on confidence, getting used to a new manager and his different tatics with new players in the team. Granted, there are more than you can count on 1 hand who don't deserve a shirt but we are missing a fit left back and can't even put our 3rd choice who is a centre half there! Meireles is without doubt going to be a very good buy and he was Roys signing. Let's focus on the positives and not sound like Bluenoses or Man*s the minute our team starts playing badly. Roy has a very good squad when most fit and those calling for him to go really don't understand the game. Please Please King Kenny is not the answer. Let us remember him for the legend he is. He was a manager a very long time ago and i would hate to see him come back and it not work for him because that would be how we then remember him! We are Liverpool Forever not just the present but the future too. We WILL get new owners, we WILL get new players and with a lot of patience and good loyal support we will walk on to that golden sky again. I hope people who read this agree with me as we are THE best supporters in the world and now our team really need us so lets not desert them!
Dickie Di Dohexcellent post long may king kenny reign in our memories an not become a fall guy for our shortcomings this season.
we are in a terrible situation an our only hope is the buy out and new faces in january to lift a club that is now officially on its arse.Roy god bless him is showing signs of strain and if reports are true he doesn't know if he can change the fortunes of the greatest club in the world then i hope he keeps his dignity an doesn't deserve to be hounded out by so called fans - this is liverpool we do not hound out managers and players we support them throu the wind and rain - roy will know if he is the man to restore us or even just to stop the rot as when we get new owners they will want their own man to run the club and this may or may not be roy.
at least after the half time team talk we showed some guts and passion and tried to move the ball quicker - admittedly it was too late and we left ourselves open at the back - but roy's team talk seemed to have an effect.maybe we lay off roy an ask the players to take a long hard look at themselves, how many could say they deserve their huge paypacket this week?
be loud be proud and be red till yer dead
bigg2966
03 Oct 2010 20:31:26
Ha ha ha ha ha HHAAha ha ha ha ha
Christ you made me laugh. . .
whats your laugh like. .
you seem to go up an octave giddily in the middle. .
Your obviously a very excited bluenose. . .
Last time I seen one excited that much was Richard Duckenfield before being chased off by a copper while interviewing Andy King. . Saddo Bluetits. .
03 Oct 2010 20:29:20
TO Dickie Di Doh GET OVER IT RED s* tE YOU ARE GOING DOWN GOING DOWN GOING DOWN CANT WAIT ALREADY HAVING A STREET PARTY MATE WELCOME TO JOIN IN WITH LOVE FROM THE MIGHTY BLUES SUPPORTERS CLUB CANT WAIT TILL 2 WEEKS TODAY PS BRING YOUR WHITE TISSUES HA HA
03 Oct 2010 20:28:18
Hi ED Watched the game today and one thing is glaringly obvious. I have played the game to quite a high standard and I think i understand the role of the sitting midfielder (sorry to sound patronising). But if you watch the second goal today you will see that Poulson is way out on the left when the pass is made through the middle. Sitting in front of the defense is a disciplined position but Poulson drifts out of position and is not quick enough to get back (this is where Masch excelled). There seems to be a massave space in the centre of midfield in which the opposition are capitalising on. Whats your thoughts.
Evered {ed's note - I agree fully, but it is not just him that is getting dragged out of place without the pace to make up for it, it is the entire defence. Kyrgiakos was constantly backing away from attackers and allowing them to back him into the box or just standing off them and giving them the space to cross. A lack of pace is causing real problems, none of the defensive players want to challenge high up the pitch because of the space left in behind them.}
03 Oct 2010 20:25:47
Having my heart broken at the moment. The players at the club I love are playing without spirit and respect for the shirt, that is the most dissapointing thing. Fair play to Blackpoool a team who want to do the best for the manager and the fans. Will someone at Anfield please be honest and tell us what is going on. Not sure how much I can take.
03 Oct 2010 20:14:26
Didn't think it would be long before the blue* ite crawled out from under their stones! was to be expected as prob the only time this season they will be above us and if you are below Evert*n you are really in the Shi*! . Anyway onto football matters ( time for Bluenoses to switch off). I Really do think we are at our lowest ebb for a good few years although i remember the Souness era when i could afford a season ticket. We still need encouragment instead of slagging off despite Pis* poor Poulsen preventing proper performance! ( I rehearsed that, sorry ). Yes the players get paid far more than most for doing far less but does anyone really think they are playing badly DELIBERATELY?! they are rock bottom on confidence, getting used to a new manager and his different tatics with new players in the team. Granted, there are more than you can count on 1 hand who don't deserve a shirt but we are missing a fit left back and can't even put our 3rd choice who is a centre half there! Meireles is without doubt going to be a very good buy and he was Roys signing. Let's focus on the positives and not sound like Bluenoses or Man*s the minute our team starts playing badly. Roy has a very good squad when most fit and those calling for him to go really don't understand the game. Please Please King Kenny is not the answer. Let us remember him for the legend he is. He was a manager a very long time ago and i would hate to see him come back and it not work for him because that would be how we then remember him! We are Liverpool Forever not just the present but the future too. We WILL get new owners, we WILL get new players and with a lot of patience and good loyal support we will walk on to that golden sky again. I hope people who read this agree with me as we are THE best supporters in the world and now our team really need us so lets not desert them!
Dickie Di Doh
The Kenny comments are very true mate,
It'd be awful if his name was tarnished by coming back to manage this weak side. I can see it happening though if this continues, simply because he wants it so bad.
Can you imagine if he comes in & we lose 4 or 5 games in a row & then the so called fans / glory hunters (with short memories) come screaming for his blood?!
That'd be awful!
We DO need to get behind the players but at the moment the fans at Anfield are too busy with saving their voices for protests. This is partially to blame too. I wish they'd do their protests after matches are finished & let the players know they support them during the game.
The SOS have their hearts in the right places but all this media coverage can't be helping.
Ed, do you think SOS are making a difference? For me they are but in a negative way in terms of taking the emphasis off supporting the team on match days.
They save their voices for protesting.
I'll understand if you don't want to comment on this ed, with it potentially causing a different, long argument about how its doing this good or that good.
Cheers,
Irish Kev {ed's note - I have said many times that I disagree completely with protesting at matches. I don't see that it brings anything positive to the club at all, and it certainly has no effect on H&G who are still getting people's ticket money.}
03 Oct 2010 20:08:09
ha ha ha ha ha HHAAha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha HAH WHAT A LOAD OF s* t LOKING FORWARD TO SEEING THE MIGHTY BLUES GOING 3 POINTS CLEAR AND PUTTING YOU OT DOWNEVEN FUTHER TO RELAGATION SO LOOKNG FORWARD TO IT ha ha ha ha ha
03 Oct 2010 20:00:10
Ok i havent seen the game yet i will watch it on MOTD2 tonight, im just going purley on the result and the comments on here. people have to stop living in the past, especially the pr*ck who posted at 17:06:26 calling ever1 a muppet that wanted rafa out. i thing rafa had to go, to me rafa would be a good international coach coause then he couldnt f* k up in the transfer market. now for the game, it is very clear we can't play johnson, carra, skrtel and poulsen they are all liabilities. in fact why play poulsen at all can't we have kuyt, Meireles, gerrard and give any1 from the reserves a chance.
now people will accuse me of having a short memory but if in the transfer window some1 offers 40-50 million for torres (even if hes scoring goals again) would it be so bad if we took it and reinvested it in and added some strength and depth (thanks alan hansen lol). and as for the manager yes i would of loved to have king kenny in the first place, but we dont. roy hodgson is the liverpool manager and will continue to be for awhile (because that's the liverpool way, to give the manager time).
ed did any1 play well and i totally agree benitez had to be sacked, for me the day he first tried to sell alonso
always a red {ed's note - I can't think of anyone who actually had a good game, Kuyt was probably our best player, I lost count of the number of times he chased back past a strolling Gerrard to break up a Blackpool counter. If only Gerrard worked as hard as Kuyt he really would be the best midfielder in the world.}
03 Oct 2010 19:55:26
To be honest if Woy does go or is sacked apart from kenny in the short term who is available and suitable for the role on a long term basis?
What about Guus Hiddink?
I know he has a 2 year contract with Turkey, but with their permission he could do a job for us until the ownership is solved.
Fabian Treezle
03 Oct 2010 19:52:43
Why have we just gone out and paid nearly £12m for a central midfielder, then play him on the wing. Poulsen is crap, and wouldn't get in any other prem team, so why ours?
Why can't a midfielder be able to attack and defend any more? When you set out at home with a player like poulsen in the middle of the pitch as far as i'm concerned your worried about the opponents and only setting out to disrupt them, instead of saying we don't care what you do, this is how we play and we're gonna beat you
03 Oct 2010 19:50:35
Didn't think it would be long before the blue* ite crawled out from under their stones! was to be expected as prob the only time this season they will be above us and if you are below Evert*n you are really in the Shi*! . Anyway onto football matters ( time for Bluenoses to switch off). I Really do think we are at our lowest ebb for a good few years although i remember the Souness era when i could afford a season ticket. We still need encouragment instead of slagging off despite Pis* poor Poulsen preventing proper performance! ( I rehearsed that, sorry ). Yes the players get paid far more than most for doing far less but does anyone really think they are playing badly DELIBERATELY?! they are rock bottom on confidence, getting used to a new manager and his different tatics with new players in the team. Granted, there are more than you can count on 1 hand who don't deserve a shirt but we are missing a fit left back and can't even put our 3rd choice who is a centre half there! Meireles is without doubt going to be a very good buy and he was Roys signing. Let's focus on the positives and not sound like Bluenoses or Man*s the minute our team starts playing badly. Roy has a very good squad when most fit and those calling for him to go really don't understand the game. Please Please King Kenny is not the answer. Let us remember him for the legend he is. He was a manager a very long time ago and i would hate to see him come back and it not work for him because that would be how we then remember him! We are Liverpool Forever not just the present but the future too. We WILL get new owners, we WILL get new players and with a lot of patience and good loyal support we will walk on to that golden sky again. I hope people who read this agree with me as we are THE best supporters in the world and now our team really need us so lets not desert them!
Dickie Di Doh
03 Oct 2010 19:49:53
To be honest if Woy does go or is sacked apart from kenny in the short term who is available and suitable for the role on a long term basis?
Frank Rijkaard, but don't think he's the man for relegation battles.
As long as its not Terry Venables - jesu* the thoughts of that.
I'd definitely invest in a rope then :)
Irish Kev
03 Oct 2010 19:48:47
DEAR MR Frenchy WHAT YOU GOING ON ABOUT BENITEZ FOR YOU GOB s* tE HE IS THE ONE WHO HAS PUT US IN THE s* tE 75 PER CENT OF IT WITH THE UTTER s* tE THAT HAS BOUGHT DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH HE HAS SPENT IN 5 YEARS MY GOD GET REAL HES GONE THANK GOD GONE GONE GONE WHY THE f*ck ANY WHY WOULD ANYBODY WANT HIM BACK JUST A FAT SPANISH WAITER WHO BOUGHT s* tE UTTER s* t GE OVE RHIM MR Frenchy
03 Oct 2010 19:46:24
K fellow reds footballs over for a bit now so lets concentrate on getting them greedy bas* * s out and as soon as we have new owners we can focus on going forward and im sure we will
lets get behind our club
west midlander red
we are all in this together as a unit
what you think ed? {ed's note - I am not sure there is much more we can do right now that wouldn't put off potential new owners. Just keep up the pressure on the banks etc to stop them loaning H&G money and get the club new owners, hopefully the right ones this time!}
03 Oct 2010 19:44:49
This is theturdz speaking
will roy hodgeson just please ask his players what position the prefer playing in then try to accomodate them this idea that they can play anywere is bulls* t this is what got rafa the sack play your strongest team in the positions the players are comfortable with its easy now just try it
03 Oct 2010 19:44:16
Maxi. Not good enough
Poulson. Not good enough
Jovanovic Not good enough
Lucus. Not good enough
Ngog. Not good enough
Konchesky. Not good enough
Kuyt. Works hard but isn't that good
Carragher. Still amasing but getting old
Jhonson. Better on the wing
Babel. Dosent look that good
NEED BETTER PLAYERS
Totally agree mate, & you can probably add a few more to that list.
Irish Kev
03 Oct 2010 19:44:11
Just seen James McKenna (SoS) give a great interview on Sky Sports, even though he was given a very hard time by interviewer Jim White. Jim White was actually quite rude and was trying to discredit the demonstartions against the yanks.
The media just love to have a go at us - wa* * s.
Well done James
Fabian Treezle
03 Oct 2010 19:43:42
At this particular time its not about lack of money. Yes more money would allow us to buy more quality which would allow us to challenge top four, title etc. Our current squad should be better than a lot of teams including Blackpool. Its all about formations, attitude and a desire to win. Our performances in first halves are too defensive and we only wake up when going 1 or 2 behind. This is the manager. Meirles is a centre mid played out of position, again this is the manager. Johnson is clearly struggling for form, drop him, This is the managers choice. Poulson is too slow and lacks aggresion but still gets played. Again the managers decision. Spurs saw what was happening a couple of seasons ago and sacked Ramos, Chelsea did with Scolari. It did not mean he was a bad manager just not suited to premier league. RH is not suited to LFC. We are even being compared to Malmo etc. You don't compare like for like. I would bring in Dalglish now the lift he would give would be immense - remember Hiddinck at Chelsea, Redknapp at Spurs. Also Thompson and Rush.
My team would be as follows;
Reina
Kelly Carragher Agger Konchesky
Kuyt Shelvey Meirles Cole
Gerrard
Torres
Subs Jones, Pacheco, Babel, Kryiagos, Amoo, Maxi, Ngog
03 Oct 2010 19:42:19
To Irish Kev:
i've read all your post.
and i am sorry for slagging u off. . .
but all i can see is blaming others apart from finding the solution.
yes, . its a wonderful thing u can watch the game live. and me. i'm just watching it from television.or streaming live.
but still, . a liverpool fan is a liverpool fan. all we want is our team to be playing football again. not ball kicking
it doesn't matter if i was thousand miles away. .
all we need to do right now is find the solution. .find what happen?is it truly because of RH tactics?is it because of RAFA"S team?is it because of the management?
if its true, . then.what should we do?if not then, . what should we do? ?
pointing fingers at others won't solve the problem mr Irish. yes. with all respects. .
your knowledge of our club is much more than mine. . but. . please please. .stop pointing to others who have left us. . and together we find the solution for our club. . .
Malaysian REDS
Sorry but you can't have read them all as i have numerous times now asked pro Rafa fans to move on, just read below on todays banter page. Rafa had his time, if i mentioned the past its normally a direct reply to pro Rafa people on here saying he was the best manager we ever had blah blah. So i pointed out why in my opinion he wasn't the man to take us forward. And it was nearly always directed at a person who questioned my knowledge. Again just look at posts from early this morning / afternoon.
To answer all you questions above, what i'd do if in charge at the club is simple:
1) I'd be begging other fans (like i have done on here) to get behind the team 100% & not worry about protests till after games. If we the fans don't show passion why should Torres and the like?!
2) Players should be held accountable for their own performances as they are professionals (withold their wages when performing below standards like against Northampton & Blackpool)
3) Get in a proven top of the table manager from the start of the season not poor Roy, i think he is way over his head personally but am prepared to give the man more time - 1 month).
4) Have the take over completed ASAP - preferably before August deadline day so the manager is in the bes possible financial position to buy some decent players unlike having to sell Mascherano for £18 million, but replace him with a £10.5 million player as the other £7.5 million difference is required to pay off signing on & off fees, pay agents & pay for work hours for administration work to be completed. We are literally working with pennies here.
I could go on & on but want to save you the torture.
Read back over the past few weeks posts & you'll see i don't blame past people for everything happening right now but you cannot tell me that past people at the club have helped us!
And as i have always said - Its only MY opinion which i AM entitled to - just like you, hence why i hadn't slagged you knowledge or lack of off.
I don't claim to know everything, i am just giving my opinion. Sorry if you don't agree! But you can have your opinion too & i will respect it not slag it off like you did to me earlier.
Kev.
03 Oct 2010 19:39:03
In response 2the lad who thinks kenny will b in charge fckin hope so hope roy does the rite thing an leave now we wernt this bad under rafa shud of bin king kenny fr the start he's the only1 who cud get them goin an keep torres reina an gerrad
03 Oct 2010 19:38:52
Ed i bet you blame rafa for signing poulsen / konchesky roys not to blame is he or you fans who wanted rafa out. how you can say rafa should have gone years ago is unbelievable. you don't see the racist media haveing a go at roy do you? it seems you anti rafa fans won't own up to being wrong you say keep roy until the new owners come in well maybe we should have kept rafa because the way its going well keep roy untill were in the championship. or is that what you expect.
allso ill suport the reds no matter what.a sad soul man. {ed's note - have I said I blame Rafa for the signing of Poulsen? He was quite clearly a mistake, but then Rafa bought about 50 mistakes yet you still hero worship him. Forget him, he has gone and it is time to move on.}
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Ed you say forget Rafa and move on, yet it is you and a number of others who are blaming the current situation at the club on Rafa - doesn't make sense!
Fabian Treezle {ed's note - I am not doing that at all, all you Rafa-worshippers keep bringing up Rafa and calling for his return and I have pointed out that he has to take his share of the blame for the mess we are in. He is not the only cause, but he was part of the problem, I have said all along that one man is the main root cause of all of our problems: David Moores. H&G came in and actually improved a lot of things to do with the club with little problem, but they have dragged the club into huge debt and have become the main problem with the club. Rafa was also becoming an issue with his public bickering and political maneuvring added to his insistence on buying and selling ridiculous amounts of players each season because of his inability to man-manage them effectively. Now Roy has come in and seems unable to to solve the problems and in fact has added to them with the addition of Poulsen and insistence on sticking with players that are letting him down.}
03 Oct 2010 19:35:18
Liverpool need to sort out they are rubbish at the moment
Maxi. Not good enough
Poulson. Not good enough
Jovanovic Not good enough
Lucus. Not good enough
Ngog. Not good enough
Konchesky. Not good enough
Kuyt. Works hard but isn't that good
Carragher. Still amasing but getting old
Jhonson. Better on the wing
Babel. Dosent look that good
NEED BETTER PLAYERS
03 Oct 2010 19:33:55
Ha what a load of sit you liverpooo are can't wait for you to go down its were you red s* te should be they is only one club on merseyside and that is the mighty blus just shows you all this time whe were rubbish were there for our great club when you have bad games you want owners manager board staff all to quit am made up you are f*cked honest made my day made my month. now you all know ow it feels to be there at the bottom looking up at the only club on merseyside so loking forward for two weeks today my god red and white s* te red and white s* te
P S AND IF YOU KNOW YA HISTORY ITS ENOUGH TO MAKE YA HEART GOOOOOOOOOO WE DONT CARE WHT THE RED s* tE SAYWHAT THE f*ck DO WE CARE CAUSE WE ONLY KNOW THAT THERE GOIN BE A SHOW AND THE BLUE BOYS WILL BE THERE ha ha ha ha ha Hha ha ha ha ha Hha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Hha Aha
03 Oct 2010 19:33:53
Please please could the so call liverpool board put KING KENNY in charge. . he should of been there from the start! We are slowly being brought down by people who are not proper liverpool 100% followers. . Its our club and a part of lives and watching it being ripped apart by the media. terrible owners. . is just so heart breaking. . A life long supporter.
03 Oct 2010 19:33:50
Right. . lets get one thing straight, roy 'woy' hodgson is not the man to get liverpool back on track. kenny must be laughing his head off, as he said if you're going for him then you might as well give me a go, at least all the players will actually LISTEN to him, i mean who dare cross king kenny
Woy seems to be getting v defensive in press conferences, but the facts don't lie. .we're 3rd bottom cause we've played sh*te. who's responsible? the players acting on the managers instructions.
all this crap about 'we've had a difficult start fixture wise' just sounds like another way of saying i need 12 months minimum to bed in my old fashioned philosophy.
those tactics clearly worked with great results at fulham, the swiss league, finland etc with less talented players but obviously not at Inter and now liverpool. .why? cause at these places you've got far better players who've been drilled about about shape etc till the cows come home.
what they want is the manager to say 'go and play' in a 4-3-3 or 4-1-3-2, surely can't be that hard?
afterall barca, chelsea, manure, inter all do it and funnily enoug, these clubs are winning things.
chelsea play mikel, essien and ramires all in the middle all power ball players, why can't we?
i'd play 4-3-3
reina
johnson carra skrtl agger
meireles
gerrard maxi
kuyt cole
torres
i think the club balls-upped big time when they didn't take on pellegrini or pushed hard for rikjaard or even deschamps.
i think these guys are proven and play beautiful attractive football. all have been successful wherever they've been. i mean when has roy ever won anything of note?
all is not lost, get rid now whatever it takes. they need to sit down with woy, say its not quite right and come to an agreement with him. it'll cost so use the money they've got from sales.
get pellegrini/ rijkarrd in. pellegrini who speaks far better english than rafa and plays far far better fotball than rafa ever will. .tthats a massive advantage there!
i can't be doing with this sh*te football where playing with lack of fight or passion.
the players are fine except for possibly needing another striker.
lets get the yanks out and while we're at it Roy.
nice guy wrong club
03 Oct 2010 19:33:35
Look on the plus side, each bad result means there's less chance of the owners hoping for a ridiculous asking price. Also remember where Spurs were under Ramos and they came back. Juve even went down a division -clubs with global fanbases and the sort of revenue Purslow and Ayre have managed to secure don't stay down for long when they're debt free.
03 Oct 2010 19:31:11
Ha what a load of shee* you liverpooo are can't wait for you to go down its were you red s*eep should be they is only one club on merseyside and that is the mighty blus just shows you all this time whe were rubbish were there for our great club when you have bad games you want owners manager board staff all to quit am made up you are h*cked honest made my day made my month. now you all know ow it feels to be there at the bottom looking up at the only club on merseyside so loking forward for two weeks today my god red and white s*eep red and white sh*ep
03 Oct 2010 19:27:47
Thank god for the ryder cup, at least the europeans play with heart and passion, lfc players could learn a thing or two of them.
03 Oct 2010 19:24:26
There are people on here saying we should stop blaming players, coach and staff at liverpool! !?? ?then who are we supposed to blame?? every game this season has been s* t to watch, the manager has lost the plot, did you watch the players today"nuff said"
liverpool are getting deeper and deeper a black hole with no light in sight,
im sitting here with manu and arsenal fans giving me there pity even they can't believe what is going on at liverpool.
so far we are 16th in the league, beat buy nothhamton in the cup, draw 2-2 with sunderland, lose 2-1 to blackpool at home, thrashed by man city 3-0, no cup in 5 years and no league cup in 20, infact when did we last win a game?? ?and we have the longest saga with hicks&gillette in the saling the club.
liverpool have lived in there past history for to long istead of building on the future
so mr editor what positive can you take from the season so far? {ed's note - none so far mate, none at all.}
03 Oct 2010 19:24:06
To be honest if Woy does go or is sacked apart from kenny in the short term who is available and suitable for the role on a long term basis?
03 Oct 2010 19:22:05
To Irish Kev:
i've read all your post.
and i am sorry for slagging u off. . .
but all i can see is blaming others apart from finding the solution.
yes, . its a wonderful thing u can watch the game live. and me. i'm just watching it from television.or streaming live.
but still, . a liverpool fan is a liverpool fan. all we want is our team to be playing football again. not ball kicking
it doesn't matter if i was thousand miles away. .
all we need to do right now is find the solution. .find what happen?is it truly because of RH tactics?is it because of RAFA"S team?is it because of the management?
if its true, . then.what should we do?if not then, . what should we do? ?
pointing fingers at others won't solve the problem mr Irish. yes. with all respects. .
your knowledge of our club is much more than mine. . but. . please please. .stop pointing to others who have left us. . and together we find the solution for our club. . .
Malaysian REDS
03 Oct 2010 19:19:23
Call yourselves supporters my god get off that mans back meaning roy hogson he has had a team that was left by a mind working fat spanish waiter who conned the fans players and staff am telling you this now we will get out of this with or without you so called supporters.i can't understand why u come on here slating him everytime.YES the YANKS have wrecked this club not roy hogson he has players who he has left with like lucas, babbel, johnson , maxi, carra, the list goes on.all left by this fat spanish waiter all you fans who loved benitez well so log to you all.give the man some bloody time like you did with fat waiter he lost the first 6 out of 10 game when he took over in 2005 yes 6 out of 10.you can not blame hogson and at the end of the day he has been more of a man and come out and has already said it is his fault how many times did benitez come out and say that hay
P S oh by the way i am a season ticket holder not a armchair supproter
03 Oct 2010 19:19:07
Please kenny save us from this nightmare! hopfully he will see that we need to try new formations if we are doing poorly, that we need to replace players who are playing poorly and if he stays long enough till january hopfully he will sign some good players as he was the one who recomended turan, remy and mata to hodgson. unfortantely it fell on deaf ears!
plz roy go back to managing mediocore clubs and stop destroyin our once great team!
eh lfc
03 Oct 2010 19:18:15
What a shambles today, 1 up front at home to blackpool, not good enough no wonder torres went off after 10 mins he has had enough of these crappy tactics, injured i think not. Hodgson needs to go now before we start loosing our best players in jan transfer window. Come on roy do the honourable thing and step down you gave it a go, you have lost the dressing room now why should they respect you when you don't even travel with them to away european games!
03 Oct 2010 19:14:51
Have liverpool reached their Juande Ramos moment?
03 Oct 2010 19:13:22
Roy to leave? What a load of bull, its the players that aren't workin hard enough! Off the field problems shouldn't be affecting these players because they're supposed to be professionals but all these marches and all before and after games aren't helping anyone, YES we all want rid of these owners but its out of our hands, its only a matter of time before they're gone with the October deadline quickly approaching, the only thing people are doin is fueling the fire and spreading negative press against our club, now look at us, in the bottom 3 and a laughing stock, we need to get focused on getting behind the team and just the team, nothing else, the takeover is inevitable so just let nature take its course. .
From a very frustrated Red
Rocky
03 Oct 2010 19:13:01
Even Dalglish said all the candidates applying for the Liverpool's managers position, simply arnt good enough.
This includes O'neil and Hodgson. I agree from the start.
O'neil spent more than Raffa with little success at villa. Also his football was very much ugly.Hodgson had one decent cup run but his CV is not that of a successful manager. Now look at us!
Ed, can you name the few managers who won the premiership? Also who was the last manager to win the league with Liverpool? {ed's note - Fergie, Dalglish, Wenger, Mourinho, Ancelotti, I think that's them all but I have probably missed one and of course Dalglish was the last one to win us the league. I would rather get Rafa back than turn to O'Neill, but I am unconvinced Dalglish is the right man either.}
03 Oct 2010 19:08:51
F* * * g blue s* te! ! ! ! ! ! !
03 Oct 2010 19:08:29
Maybe time to buycout games now so the yanks might notice the money drop .get Roy out kenny run the show then if new owners come in go get frank rikyarrd at least the football will improve. agree or disagree . psv elnino
03 Oct 2010 19:07:25
After congratulating blackpool in advance id like to congratulate them again. They were fantastic to watch and i l0ved watching some good football at anfield, even though it wasnt from us(shocking. .not really). To you guys who are previleged enough to go to anfield and support our team, you make me sick and im deeply dissapointed in you. I sure hope to God the evertonians give you a tough time tomorrow. Jovanovic, poulsen(worse than lucas, u must be proud of yourself), babel, ngog, carra, johnson(never play a friendly against bafana over here, id hunt you down and. .), konchesky, skrtel, etc. The list goes on should be replaced with kelly, shelvey, mavinga, pacheco, spearing, the speedy 15-year old, ayala, wilson and amoo. I don't care who the manager is, id jus like one who shows he has balls, big rock-solid balls.
Liverpool for the league title next year! The coca cola championship.
Red bl00ded!
03 Oct 2010 19:06:17
What is it with this guy irish what ever it is.
yes.this is rafa's team. and no. its not rafa's tactic anymore.
he's gone by now. .stop blaming him. .
its roy's tactic now. and more important.
the players. they don't even want to play. .
what happen? is it still because of rafa? ?
come on. .give him some credit will u? ?
wish him luck. .
now all we need to do is find a solution. not pointing fingers. . .
Malaysian REDS
Its apparent you only read some posts.
I am a fan & have been going to matches & buying jerseys for the past 10 years (been a fan 22 years).
How many matches do you go to per season again?
Please don't question my knowledge of what i see with my own two eyes!
The tactics are very similar. I'm not blaming Rafael Benitez for oufr position now, i partially blame him, Roy, the players stinking attitude, the home fans for being seen but not heard in positive chanting & encouragement for the players. And i also blame the take over not being completed by August as we could have invested better in the squad not bought the Poulsen quality of player. But what do i know? I only go to all the matches, you clearly know much better to slag off my knowledge from your Malaysian
home. Did you hear me slag off anyone elses knowledge? No, i respect everyones opinion. I don't always agree, but i do respect. But i don't respect fools coming on here trying to be smart like you when you live thousands of miles away. I don't go on websites from Malaysia slagging off locals knowledge of their issues do i?
But if that's your thing mate then stick with it.
It won't get you far.
Irish Kev
03 Oct 2010 19:03:05
03 Oct 2010 18:58:04
03 Oct 2010 18:49:49
If Roy does leave (Fingers Crossed) we'll have to be looking at managers not in the game currently. I'd just like to hear peoples response's and of the editor if possible.
1. Martin O' Neill
2. Manuel Pellegrini
Is the only two I can really think of I can't see any one else who is currently in a job moving to Liverpool. But out of thos two which one would you pick thanks,
ROY Y.N.W.A (You'll Never Work Again) {ed's note - Pellegrini was one of the 3 I wanted, along with Michael Laudrup and Sean O'Driscoll. So I would have to say Pellegrini, O'Neill is not good enough, he would be a serious error.}
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I wonder whether Pelligrini is the choice of one bidding consortium as he has not taken a job since leaving Real Madrid. He plays good stylish attacking football. {ed's note - I am amazed he has not walked into a job by now.}
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I agree ed about Martin O'Neil. His football style only gets you so far. He can be quite strange at times and has Rafa style strops and hissy fits. But John Robertson might be able to teach Jovanovic and Babel how to get to the byline and cross the ball properly though. {ed's note - I think those two (and Johnson for that matter) are beyond help now mate.}
03 Oct 2010 19:02:42
The players arent sure and hesitant . . well I tell you what once you step over that white line if you don't know what to do or how to play , when your a "worldclass" player, Your not worthy to wear the shirt. . the manager coaches and advises and ASKS you how to play. .but if your a big enough player .You know what to do. .We are so low on confidence its unbelievable but i still blame the top earners. .I hope Torres was injured, there is only 1 player worth his salt this season and that's even with the arsenal blunder and that's Reina, a true tryer. .If the prozzies cause fathead to underperform for the scum, then Gerrard and the rest of our outfield players must av pulled a train on a goat! SMF
03 Oct 2010 19:01:59
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha what a load of sh*t that was going down really are looking forward two weeks today show what a real team is we beat you lot go 3 points ahead never mind hay ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha h
03 Oct 2010 19:01:34
Dalglish now! please. . . . .
03 Oct 2010 18:59:43
Lets not kid ourselves - that result today and the performances so far this season is nothing short of disgraceful. Whilst i'm doubting whether or not RH was the right appointment, the fact is no proven top class manager wanted the job and you can't blame then in the current situation. RH is accepting the responsibility but i'd like him to throw the players in front of the camera and get them to hold their hands up as well - it seems they don't care. And whilst it's ok saying it's not good enough, everyone is disappointed etc can we honestly see things changing or in two weeks time will we hear sorry once again. One thing for certain Fergie simply wouldn't accept this situation, behaviour, lack of quality nor performances at United his players would be left to rot in the reserves
03 Oct 2010 18:58:04
03 Oct 2010 18:49:49
If Roy does leave (Fingers Crossed) we'll have to be looking at managers not in the game currently. I'd just like to hear peoples response's and of the editor if possible.
1. Martin O' Neill
2. Manuel Pellegrini
Is the only two I can really think of I can't see any one else who is currently in a job moving to Liverpool. But out of thos two which one would you pick thanks,
ROY Y.N.W.A (You'll Never Work Again) {ed's note - Pellegrini was one of the 3 I wanted, along with Michael Laudrup and Sean O'Driscoll. So I would have to say Pellegrini, O'Neill is not good enough, he would be a serious error.}
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I wonder whether Pelligrini is the choice of one bidding consortium as he has not taken a job since leaving Real Madrid. He plays good stylish attacking football. {ed's note - I am amazed he has not walked into a job by now.}
03 Oct 2010 18:55:17
I genuinely believe Hodgson to be a decent and honourable man, but these players are not playing for him. The majority of these are not fit to wear the shirt. Unfortunately for Hodgson I believe he will be removed within weeks of any takeover occurring.
03 Oct 2010 18:54:11
I am a season ticket holder and I will be till I die. I was a god help us, poster, when the media decided to beat the Roy Hodgson, for Liverpool drum. I was also posting to fans that our Defence was our weakest it has ever been, when fans were asking for midfielders and strikers. I said Carra is no longer good enough. Wow i got slaughtered for posting that! Why as R H given Aurelio a new contract, when Rafa let him go, because of is injury record, I asked? Again my postings were met by anti Rafa fans. Well, Imo we still have a squad of players good enough to finish in the top 4, lets get behind woy and the boys and beat the blue noses next week. Lets pray for investment by Owners who want us to progress and not just make them money.Your thoughts Ed. {ed's note - I hate to see Carra struggle, but he is not really up to the job of being a first team regular. Aurelio is the biggest waste of wages ever, it takes him so long to play well after an injury, just long enough for him to get injured yet again. Hopefully, with the support of the fans, the team can up their game and begin a revival against Everton.}
03 Oct 2010 18:53:57
Bring King Kenny back with rush as assitant
We need the real Liverpool back
03 Oct 2010 18:53:22
Sack roy sack roy sack roy
03 Oct 2010 18:50:06
To the person whote wrote Roy out, I hope you are right, we are worst than last year, I thought it was down to a difficult set of opening fixtures, but I take it all back we are just sh*t!
Now it looks like our only striker will be out for a few weeks again!
Who the hell would want to buy us now? We aint worth £50.00, let alone millions!
I love Liverpool but we really are in a mess!
03 Oct 2010 18:49:49
If Roy does leave (Fingers Crossed) we'll have to be looking at managers not in the game currently. I'd just like to hear peoples response's and of the editor if possible.
1. Martin O' Neill
2. Manuel Pellegrini
Is the only two I can really think of I can't see any one else who is currently in a job moving to Liverpool. But out of thos two which one would you pick thanks,
ROY Y.N.W.A (You'll Never Work Again) {ed's note - Pellegrini was one of the 3 I wanted, along with Michael Laudrup and Sean O'Driscoll. So I would have to say Pellegrini, O'Neill is not good enough, he would be a serious error.}
03 Oct 2010 18:44:02
What is it with this guy irish what ever it is.
yes.this is rafa's team. and no. its not rafa's tactic anymore.
he's gone by now. .stop blaming him. .
its roy's tactic now. and more important.
the players. they don't even want to play. .
what happen? is it still because of rafa? ?
come on. .give him some credit will u? ?
wish him luck. .
now all we need to do is find a solution. not pointing fingers. . .
Malaysian REDS
03 Oct 2010 18:43:10
Right, I've sorted it out:
Out:
Insua - Gala + Player
Jovanovic - Standard + Player
Torres - Barca
Kuyt - Inter
Babel - PSV + Player
Lucas & Maxi - Porto + Player
Aquilani - Juventus
Poulsen - ?
Skrtel - ?
Aurelio - ?
Kyrgiakos -?
In:
Axel Witsel - Standard Liege
Eden Hazard - Lille
Miralem Pjanic - Lyon
Edin Dzeko - Wolfsburg
Arda Turan - Gala
Marcus Berg - Hamburg
Radamel Falcao - FC Porto
Keisuke Honda - CSKA Moscow
Ola Toivonen - PSV
Steven Taylor - Newcastle
Stephen Warnock - Aston Villa
I'll email Roy now and get him to start lining them up for January.
All problems solved!
03 Oct 2010 18:42:12
BREAKING NEWS
Gareth Bale has been released by my Liverpool Fifa 11 team following anti scouse revalations. Sergio Aguero and David Villa said they were shocked but that " comments like that could not be tolerated". He won the UCL under my management I feel betrayed!
03 Oct 2010 18:40:22
People like you, the worshipers of money, make me sick. It's not even your money, you poor slave of the system. People who use the word "owners" as if we are back in the days of slavery. It's "custodians" for God's sake! unless you are a slave yourself.
No one can own LFC - it belongs to all of us.
Red Herr Ing
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ABSOLUTELY NOBODY OWNS LIVERPOOL FOOTBALL CLUB. THEY ARE CUSTODIANS OF THE CLUB FOR US AND THE COMMUNITY.
03 Oct 2010 18:39:38
Meireless the headless chicken, poulson the snail, gerrard the has been, torres the crock, carra the lost (at left back), kuyt the cluless, ngog the pointless slug, johnson the donkey, skrtel the dumb and that greek fool doing sami hyppia impressions, joe cole wishing he had gone to spurs.
Kenny Dalglish is the Answer
Gazman
You're clearly not a true fan to post this rubbish on here! Bugger off back to Badisson Park kid!
You're a joke of a fan - only supports the team when winning, better off without you & your type.
03 Oct 2010 18:39:23
I read these posts in hope that someday there will be a genuine rumour in regards to the sale of the club, now I'm checking in desperation after today's awful result. I was not happy with Roy's appointment but now we have him we need too back him! We need to give the young guys a run of games as they will be eager to show what they can do rather than strolling around feeling sorry for themselves, play Eccleston, Kelly, Pacheco, Wilson, and Amoo for 5 or 6 games and see how we do, can't get any worse. What do think Ed?
Reina
Kelly Wilson Agger Aurelio
Amoo Gerard Cole Eccleston
Pacheco Torres {ed's note - Aurelio and Agger are both injured, but why not give Mavinga a go?}
03 Oct 2010 18:35:28
"Don't be stupid it is not protest from the players - the must pay back all the wages they get in double. the were watching the game just like us, but little bit closer. give us back the money.
hristo"
People like you, the worshipers of money, make me sick. It's not even your money, you poor slave of the system. People who use the word "owners" as if we are back in the days of slavery. It's "custodians" for God's sake! unless you are a slave yourself.
No one can own LFC - it belongs to all of us.
Red Herr Ing
03 Oct 2010 18:32:17
Right lets get things straight , we need new owners , new manager and to startm playing well , there playing like they don't want to play.So we need new owners to lift the players.
03 Oct 2010 18:30:01
Fabian,
Like Rafa you're clearly an arrogant numpty!
Irish Kev
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I'm not an arrogant person in the slightest. I just don't think enough fans give Rafa the credit that he deserves and it annoys me. Many fans seem to jump on the bandwagon and decide to blame Rafa for what is going on at the club now, instead of realising the problem lies closer to home. I just wonder if we had won all of our opening matches and were sitting at the top of the league, would everyone be praising Rafa - I don't think so.
That said, I think we should forget about the past, whatever we think of it, and concentrate on supporting what is still the best club in the world.
Fabian Treezle
I said person not person :)
To answer your question, i'd have said Rafa was even worse if we were top of the league now with Roy. But we're not proving Roy has followed on Rafa's errors. What has changed under Hodgson? Nothing!
Meireles, Cole & Poulsen have come in but our style of play & formation is almost the same. Its like Rafa never left to be honest. Sickening!
Hodgson was not my choice but Rafa out i'm happy with. He had his time & chance(s)!
Irish Kev.
03 Oct 2010 18:29:17
ED?
I have given up on us signing any top players I think we are in almost unending decline. I have wanted us to sign Van der Varrt for years and Gareth Bale. Tell me this what negative comments did Bale make about LIVERPOOL everyone comments on it on here I need to know because if he don't like Liverpool hes out of my FIFA 11 team with players like Gourcuff and Aguero and in form Torres I don't need him I AM NOW RETIRING TO A WORLD OF FANTASY AWAY FROM THE PAIN OF REALITY! {ed's note - I was trying to find a link to the comments but they all seem to have vanished, but what he said was extremely negative regarding Scousers and Liverpool. I am sure there must be a transcription or youtube vid of it somewhere, I just can't find it.}
03 Oct 2010 18:28:12
Mr ed you see what i told you last time the can't perform anymore there is a huge problem between players board maneger & all the anfield staff . if the board dosent do something & solve imidiatly the owners the liverpool football club won't excist anymore this defeat against blackpool will be our defeat of dead cause we can't get out now , remember what i have been told you before i'm sure that next season we will be playing in the championship or may be from scratch cause i think that all the players wants out now surely they can't stick anymore with this board & the yankies tom & jerry you must tell the supporters that who live there don't go anymore to whatch and do wake them up mate and get them out in the streets protest e very day till the end of this scenario cause we're dead & burried we're at the end of a story now mate and it will be a history like when it was the roman empire and now is history this is what will be happining mate wake up , wake up . Y.N.W.A . MTARFA , MALTA, MARIO .
03 Oct 2010 18:26:10
Well that was poor - very poor. It wasn't unlucky, Blackpool weren't that good (although they deserved their win), it was us - we were for the most part rubbish. So rubbish that Kyrgiakos actually looked good - not because he is (which he isn't) but because he was surrounded by dross.
I am wondering if the players are having a problem with Hodgson's pre-match planning. They seem very hesitant, unsure of where they are supposed to be and what they are supposed to be doing. They also seem to be 'shackled'. It is obvious now that Hodgson is a fan of defensive counter-attacking football and the players are not allowed to close-down the opposition or press them.
Miereles. Why on earth was he playing wide? Poulson. Why on earth is he playing in the Premiership? Jovanovic. He obviously does not want to be at Anfield. Torres. His mental attitude is shot to hell. He's now injured again and with his motivation currently dropping out of the bottom of his boots will probably take longer to heal.
The back four were a shambles. What exactly was the point of bringing Maxi on in the 88th minute?
Some of those players should be shot (yes Jovanovic, I mean you for one along with Poulson and a few others.) Sorry Roy, but some of those players should never play again and youngsters played regularly instead - can't be any worse and at least they'll get experience and be worth more if we move them on.
Sickening.
RED LENIN
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03 Oct 2010 18:24:54
Ah Juan mata (Mata is kill in Spanish lol) another fine Valencian player i like, read the other day that a friend of Meireles plays for Valencia and is a red supporter! (Miguel)
03 Oct 2010 18:24:11
I'm usually the one fan who backs the team whenever a result goes pear-shaped, look at the positives etc.etc.
Today the players got what they deserved. I'm sorry but there can be no excuse. If you play like a shambolic, uninspiring, pitiful pile of footballers then you have to take the crap that your performance brings.
I am not going to accept the crap the players will come out with tomorrow. i.e. Gerrard " we know it's not good enough. We have to look at ourselves, work harder and improve. We have to"
Well this kind of crap i've heard for the last 12 months. And to be honest i'm getting a little antsy about it. Instead of working hard in the media, try doing it on the pitch and showing a little passion.
Our complete lack of movement first half was quite frankly shocking. I am actually in shock over the level of effort put in (or lack of). Seriously there is something rotten in the barrel. A cancer has spread through the club.
Many of you on here thought the cancer was Rafa Benitez. Well he's gone and look, we are actually worse than at any stage last season. I bet you never thought you'd be saying that as we lie 18th in the Premier League in October.
The players are starting to get on my bloody nerves. I suppose another week of listening to the Chelsea, manure fans at work going on and on and on and on. One tosser last week actually had the cheek to offer me the draw today! And my wallet is losing more money than this current Government. Seriously, for the first time in over 20 years I'm going to have to refuse to bet on LFC.
Christ i'm depressed.
Bob the Red
03 Oct 2010 18:23:36
Credit where it is due Irish Kev. Let's see how well Hodgson does. Even at this early stage it doesn't look good & I'm the eternal optimist!
Never said Hodgson was my man for the job.
I wanted Mourinho personally but until the take over happens that will not happen.
We're having a terrible run at the moment.
How many players that played today were Rafa's players in the starting line up?
Eight i believe. So its still Rafa's team & too early to judge a new manager. Rafa had 6 years to win us back the league, SIX! Get over your affair with Rafa now please.
You're beginning to sound like a teenager who has been dumped & is still pining for your beloved long after being dumped. Rafa is gone, that's it! I don't him blame for everything just some very important transfer errors, ego getting in our way of winning the title & some tactical errors ie Rotation, zonal marking at set pieces etc etc.
Sorry if you don't agree but i am entitled like you to my opinion.
Irish Kev.
03 Oct 2010 18:22:42
I reiterate what I said in my last post "Please for god sake Mr Hodgson leave our beloved club you are not fit to manage this great club". I was tag idiot and deprived of intelligence by Ed, but what will you say Ed after this awful match against Blackpool! We are Liverpool my dear friend not Fullham. If you think with Hodgson in place we will be able to take top four spot then you are wrong. This guy has no tactics, no playing intelligence and absolutely no managerial flair.We played only 7 match and look where we are, in the relagation zone.LIVERPOOLFC in the relagation zone, what a shame! BRING ON THE KING, WE DESPERATELY NEED HIM NOW! {ed's note - as you pointed out it is just 7 matches and already you have decided he is not the man for the job. Good job the season is not 7 matches long really!}
03 Oct 2010 18:18:11
Torres just don't want to be there . . injured my arse . . . . if it was me id rip that team apart . .too many overpaid prima donna's. . . we have absolutely crumbled since xabi left , we have no width whatsoever . i can't believe the manager and coaches don't see this , because football is such a simple game , if youve got someone who can beat a man with skill and pace it instantly breaks the shape of the opposing teamand creates space ( dirt kuyt right wing wtf) . . .today was just too comfortable for blackpool . . its starting to become a complete joke of a football club now we must be sold soon or we will be playing in the championship come august 2011. . .and that's a FACT. .thx rafa what a pigs ear u made of it
03 Oct 2010 18:16:20
I hate to say it but Roy has got to go, first half performance was shambolic. He was playing players in the wrong positions
Joe Cole is not a left winger and never has been, the difference when he plays through the middle.
Meriles should never play on the right, he plays centre midfielder for his country. Play him and Gerrard in the middle.
Start playing the players where they should be played.
Macca
03 Oct 2010 18:15:51
Ed do you have any update on the search for new owners as everywhere i look its all gone quiet ?
{Editor's Note: There is nothing to report right now - the search is obviously ongoing and the existing owners will be looking at options. The right solution is much more important than an immediate solution.}
03 Oct 2010 18:15:28
Irish Kev
Did Rafa's rant really cost us the league? Seriously? Players can play in high profile matches like Champ league finals & FA Cup finals, but a couple of home truths about Fergie & all the players fall apart?
You also mention how Liverpool went out of the CL last season with a whimper yet don't mention all the previous seasons were Liverpool punched well above their weight!
Credit where it is due Irish Kev. Let's see how well Hodgson does. Even at this early stage it doesn't look good & I'm the eternal optimist!
The Irish Rover ( Torres for a hat trick today)
If you read the whole thing mate you'd see it wasn't the only reason i mentioned (if you have the time cause i know it was a long post)
Irish Kev
03 Oct 2010 18:14:20
{ed's note - but Kenny hasn't got the job and the club doesn't need disruption, it needs settling down.}
Ed , as I mentioned on the chat as well, usually I would agree with you, keep the maneger , give him time and allow the club to stabilise etc etc. . but seriously me and many liverpool fans I talked / read see us going backwards every game . I know you would say it goes worse before it turns the corner, but the way we are that corner is so far we might as well take a different route . 2 months ago I did not think Roy had it in him to keep us top 6 and now I am more certain that he can't . . I would go so far as to say let him go (hopefully he resigns so keeps his dignity and the stature that he deserves pre - liverpool ) and put Kenny in charge until a new owner is in place . we don't need to buy any players until then , what we have is much better than have been displayed , I really think we have top 6 quality players , but what we need is a manager and coach to make them realise that.
Roy
03 Oct 2010 18:13:15
A few years ago we were sending our young players, not good enough to play for our reserves to blackpool and similar teams, soon we will accept their players to us, that's life, we have to accept it.
Hristo
03 Oct 2010 18:09:38
I saw the protests at Anfield broadcast on Sky sports today
03 Oct 2010 18:09:37
Ed, changing roy isn't guarantee improvement. YES. but i'm afraid keeping roy will make anymore damages. Blackpool fixture should be the very very simple turning point, but he still CANNOT do it. result will never lie Ed, and our results showed roy's incapability to be LFC boss. Players looked like don't wanna play, maybe (just maybe) there was 2 reasons: #1. Roy lost dressing room (we have several world class players and experienced world class stages and surely they could see is roy capable or not) #2. Players see no bright future at anfield due to uncertainty of new ownership till today and it broke their hope and passion. Kenny for Roy. its a realistic solution Ed.
Jonas
03 Oct 2010 18:09:28
Why are we lfc fans anti o neil ed do you really honostly believe rh is the man for us and i will tell you why o neil is the man for us its simple really passion passion and i think youll agree we need that at this moment if we can give rh a chance we can give o neil a chance is it because he is irish rh is a mid table manager o neil would be great for liverpool if given the chance and i simply don't care if he plays long ball as long as we win blackpool today northampton 2 weeks ago get out now rh you were never good enough i pray he gets the sack today
{Editor's Note: I can't agree with a knee jerk reaction. What if MON came in and we lost the first two games, you would be screaming for his blood. We need to settle down, get behind the players and build some confidence. I can't see a massive spending spree in January but Arda would be a great addition if we could get him. I really can't see Mata coming in from Valencia.}
03 Oct 2010 18:08:13
Ed,
You are saying that roy should stay?, but what about if he lands us in a worse state?, the fact is he was brought in to stablise the club until the owners are sorted out but the fact is he has won 1 game in 7 and 3 have been at home to west brom/ birming/ sunderland ?
The fact is we the didn't like rafa when he played players out of postion & roy's doing the same & i just think that kenny would have done no worse of a job up till now if he had the job?, also we have been poor to watch & i keep hearing 3 new players will need time to bed in but the fact remains is did aldridge/ barnes/ beardsley/ & did alonso/ arbaloa/ torres and i could go on & the next 4 games are everton(a)blackburn(h)Bolton(A)Chelsea(h) now hand on heart how many points can you see us taking from them games the way we are playing. .
Thanks
-Pete- {ed's note - I just don't see that we achieve anything by sacking him, it is the players that need a kick up the backside. I would like to see the board speaking to the players and telling them that it is not acceptable for them to show such a poor attitude and that if they are not prepared to try then they will be sent to train with the kids until their attitude improves. But if the board are not prepared to back Roy properly, then we are in serious trouble no matter whether he stays or goes.}
03 Oct 2010 18:04:42
Banega hmmmmmmmm i've been a massive fan of his, (Valencia is where my wife comes from so they are my second team lol) He would look good in a red shirt. .
03 Oct 2010 18:04:21
Just been the game absolutely awful, no disrespect to Blackpool but we shudda beat them 2day, I know you may think this is a kneejerk reaction but Roy has gotta go, the poor bloke is out of his depth, we are in a relegation fight already this early in the season, the 1st half performance was nothing short of s* te, the players shud hang their heads in shame disgraceful, there is a lot of things wrong at anfield at the moment & if things are'nt put right soon it may not be repairable,
03 Oct 2010 18:04:18
No coverage re the pre and post match protests yet again
b* tard media
the rev
03 Oct 2010 18:00:17
Were in a crisis. need new owners who are willing to bk tha team both on and off the field i.e - new staduim/ players etc we desperatley need to buy wingers/ 2 strikers/ midfielder and left bk
i wud like to see the following
left bk - taiwo/ cissoko
midfielder - banega/ barry/ parker/ honda/ Schweinsteiger
wingers - mata/ pablo/ young/ johnson/ turan/
strikers - hulk/ eto/ podolski
03 Oct 2010 17:58:20
Congratulations to Blackpool, everyone wrote them off and they played with desire and fight. I am gutted how we have started off but as pointed out by others i am red through and through, the liverbird tattoo is there for life not just through good times! Roy is here and although i wanted Rafa to stay and bring back the good times when the club is owned by true football lovers, so i accept his wobbling leadership. The players we have have finished 2nd not so long ago so where are we going wrong? Inhouse problems need resolving, new owners need finding, fans need o show their true worth at games, all i heard were Blackpool fans today! !
03 Oct 2010 17:53:33
The players have gone missing, simple as. It reminds me of Pardew's final months at West Ham - no commitment, no harrying or closing down, allowing lesser teams to cross the ball and handing responsibility to someone else and no-one playing 100% for their team-mates. Honestly, i kinda feel sorry for Hodgson as right now whoever steps onto the pitch from the starting XI is looking fairly apathetic and as if they think they're better than having to do the dirty work. If Torres and Gerrard want to go come Jan i say let them - so long as the money is reinvested there are more reliable alternatives out there who can play more than 3 games in a row and don;t pout when they're skinned. If people can't remember what that's like, go and watch a few lower league matches - the skill level may not be the same but they are usually far more committed.
03 Oct 2010 17:50:40
I sit here and read all these whining complaints about how we should have gave Kenny the job, kept Rafa, Roy should quit, etc.
Then I have to hear people take a swipe the players, Johnson, Poulsen, Torres, the list is endless.
Then I have to read about how some of you are ashamed to be a supporter because of a few losses, with a season not even near half over.
More over I see fans slagging other fans rumours, speculations, and opinions. WTF is wrong with most of you?
We are not Man City/ Chelski who only have a place in the present because of money.
We are not the Mancs who have fans that are mostly glory hunters.
Do most of any of you read or know thw history of our beloved club? Do you remember what is was like before Shanks?
"Liverpool had suffered a period of decline in the 50s, after having won five league titles in the first half of the century, and were at this time languishing in the Second Division, with a crumbling stadium, poor training facilities, and a large pool of untalented players."
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Sound simlar to our situation at present? I bet most of you turned off your TV when we were down 0-3 to AC Milan in Intanbul, only to claim you watched every second after see then end socre on Sky.
Would you like to be indignant about that statement, because the s* te you spit makes it sound very close to reality.
WE ARE LIVERPOOL! I don't care about Roy, I don't care about the Yanks. I care about what is best for LFC. You want to protest, don't buy ANYTHING, onter then a ticket if you can. Just because the ownership needs to go does not mean the club should play to an empty stadium. Way to show Gerrard, Pepe, and others who have stuck around for all this your appreciation. You want to write letters, make viral videos, have sit ins fine. BUT QUIT WHINING AND SHOW SOME FECKING UNITY!
My LFC Crest tattoo is right above my heart, not on my sleave. IF this is the kind of support, strength, and diligence that was shown during the Blitz, you would all be speaking German FFS.
If you can't be proactive, paitent, positive, and supportive then like the Yanks GTFO!
03 Oct 2010 17:50:17
Blaming the yanks for our current position is just diverting attention away from whats happening out there.
Reina, Gerrard, Torres are world class. Carragher, Johnston, Agger, Maxi are four star players and the rest are good players yet they are playing terrible. A good manager would make these players better and beaming in confidence
03 Oct 2010 17:45:15
I didn't want roy in the begining and this is why we are an absolute disgrace the team can't pass the ball we did need a change but god id love rafa back now
we went to barca madrid inter believing we would get something from the games now how would you feel if we was facing any now?
GO ROY GO
03 Oct 2010 17:44:58
Ed you are saying not to sack roy hodgson he is to steady the ship after benites we are in the relagation zone in the table we have big earners in our squad we deserve better he does not deserve no more time with lfc he was never right for us and bring in o neil and we might finish in the top half and i think alot of lfc fans are deluded thinking rh is going to steady the ship {ed's note - MON is not the answer.}
03 Oct 2010 17:44:33
One of the best european team(LFC) play draw against Utrecht and our manager hodgson was satisfy imagine.we bought meireles to play as midfield now play in right wing, babel and pacheco the'y no more our players.i think hodgson is not our coach, sammy lee need to out, board need to resolve, we need someone like Saudi Prince who care for football, again like Lfc.Ed i thought we need to stop buying kit and watch match from now till yanks out, maybe we are all stupid?
BASH LFC {ed's note - I agree mate, we need to stop buying merchandise and force Hicks out.}
03 Oct 2010 17:44:30
I meant Broughton not Purslow, thanks Ed for putting me right ! {ed's note - no worries mate.}
03 Oct 2010 17:42:41
Although i am against the Hodgson appointment who in their right mind would want to come to this club as a manager whilst hicks and gillett are still here? Would you? i certainly wouldnt.
03 Oct 2010 17:42:19
Roy has got to go now. . . . .and take the f* * *g yanks with him. . . .
disgraceful!
03 Oct 2010 17:41:27
Roy out O'Neill in now, wot u think ed enough is enough no?
Mairt10
{Editor's Note: Disappointing result but a change of manager now is not going to fix anything.}
03 Oct 2010 17:41:12
Just replying to the post about martin o neill being manager of liverpool and quiet honestly we'd be taking another step backwards. i was never a fan of hodgson but now that he is there we have to back him. our players are not playing well but most of all im shocked at the lack of atmosphere from our fans at home games. ANFIELD was a fortress because the fans made it so but in the last few weeks it relates more to a morgue. So all im saying is everyone should have a good look at ourselves and get behind the team and don't become like the mancs only singing when they r winning
YNWA lfc lim
03 Oct 2010 17:39:09
Have to say Rafa was never this bad! Can't believe we got rid of a world class manager and brought in an average championship level manager! Purslow must be laughing his Chelsea head off. . . The players have the quality just the captain of the ship has no idea where he is steering it! ! {ed's note - Purslow is a Liverpool fan, it is Broughton that is a Chelsea fan.}
03 Oct 2010 17:37:37
03 Oct 2010 17:28:02
Ed, do you think its possible to demand that the players wages be witheld this week after todays horror show just 2 weeks after the Northampton horror show. In fact, we should withold a months wages! Where oh where has our passion for the game gone? Both players & fans alike. We should be hammering Blackpool at Anfield. Is it a possibility to stop their wages do ya think as they're clearly not doing their jobs?! {ed's note - it should be possible, the players are the ones letting everyone down time and time again. It is about time they got some kind of punishment for their lack of real effort, my throat is sore from screaming at them to close someone down time and again. They seem far too content to just let the other side have possession rather than chasing around winning it back.}
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YES AGREE, BUT THEY ARE NOT PLAYING FOR HODGSON. IT IS NOT JUST TORRES WHO JUST LOOKS TOTALLY UNINTERESTED AND SOMETHING ELSE ON THEIR MINDS.
03 Oct 2010 17:36:38
The storm is now a hurricane, I don't think we have a buyer in place and i'm with the Ed on the youngsters, Bar Gerrard, Cole (in the center behind the striker) Pepe i would get the young talent in there, certainly on the flanks! We have no creativity, Cole will look to leave if he is consistently played wide and he has been a far better player for us in the middle. I hate to say it but Babel on his own up front?, try to become a Darren Bent type of player, I fear Torres is finished at LFC, i don't think he wants to be there at all.
It is so difficult to see the light but i prey it is coming i really do.
03 Oct 2010 17:36:02
Kop chanted "Dalglish" at full time.
Time running out for woy
03 Oct 2010 17:35:08
Ed, what is your feeling on how much time Roy should get? i don't think he is up to the job in hand if im honest. {ed's note - I just don't see the point in sacking a man who has no chance. It doesn't matter who we bring in until the ownership issue is sorted out, better off leaving things be and getting that done and dusted and letting a new guy come in that they pick. Hopefully someone who will be here for years and build a new dynasty to rival Shanks.}
I see your point ed, but surely you can see that Roy is not going to take us forward. I would rather see us losing with 11 youth players on the pitch. Kenny has been casting a watchful eye on the youths for some time now, i'm sure he could point out at least four youths that would do a better job than the likes of poulsen, jovanavic, dare i say it, carragher. . . .the list goes on. I know you might say that the youths are not yet ready but how do you know for sure if you don't give them the chance to prove they're worth. plenty of young players nailed down first team places when given the chance in recent years in the premiership. . . . . . . .Owen, Fowler, Gerard, Fabregas, Gibbs, in fact half the arsenal team. You get my point, Roy Hodgson has proved so far that he will not pick our younger players over those who are consistantly under performorming. Its so frustrating to see all that talent wasting away in the reserves and youth set up while half of the first team don't look like they care. Rant over!
Mick1980 {ed's note - but Kenny hasn't got the job and the club doesn't need disruption, it needs settling down.}
Roy was brought in to do just that ed, guess what, we are in a worse position now. This is not a knee jerk reaction to todays result. The football we have been playing matches the position we find oursleve's in in the league. Is that what you want as a supporter of your football team? All fans want success but we just wanted a decent showing in the league this year knowing that winning it is way out of our debt at the moment. Do you think that roy can turn things around before January when our better players may opt to jump ship?
Mick 1980 {ed's note - he was not the man I wanted for the job, but I think it is far too early to say he is not the right man for it just yet. I was hoping he would give more of the youngsters a chance, if he is not prepared to take on the first team players head on and drop the underperforming ones, like Johnson, then he will have to be replaced.}
Thats my point ed, they have been consistently under performing for weeks now and he persists in playing them. And after watching his post match interview with sky sports where he did'nt really show any emotion I am more convinced that he needs to go NOW! Does he know that he will be surplus to requirements when the take over happens and just does'nt care or is he really out of his depth and does'nt know how to react?
Fact is that Roy Hodgson WILL NOT improve Liverpool Football Club and the sooner he is replaced the better.
Mick 1980 {ed's note - the problem is that he is just a stop gap and he needs to stop thinking about trying to hold onto the job after a takeover and realise that it is time to go for broke. I don't know if he can do that or not, but I think he deserves the chance to try.}
03 Oct 2010 17:34:28
Never mind blackpool going down its liverpool in danger
03 Oct 2010 17:33:11
Horrible result! I thought we could go no lower after northampton loss at anfield but now falling to Blackpool with our so-called first XI. Shameful! By the way, what happened to Torres? I was not able to watch the match and I just saw that he was substituted after about ten minutes.
-the anfield Rapstar
03 Oct 2010 17:32:49
Well it's egg on the face of those who wanted Hodgson's appointment solely on a cup run.
Hodgson hasn't got a successful CV and yet gets the job. This is probably because he is a yes man and cheap.
Raffa shouldnt of been sacked and I still believe Liverpool would be alot higher now under him.
A wrong needs to be right and therfor Dalglish should now become the manager {ed's note - to be fair to Hodgson he has a very successful CV, the only real blot on it was with Blackburn Rovers. Rafa needed to be sacked but what was needed was someone young and fresh, Roy was just a stop gap.}
03 Oct 2010 17:29:02
Wot a joke no pride no passion.on a more serious note i know its only early in the saeson but i think roy should resign . the job is to big for him and hes reportedly admitted this to close friends according to papers this morning.he has obviously lost the dressing room and the respect of the playes.so wht doesn't he bow out and let the king come in to settle the ship and get some much needed points on the table.if kenny came in he would get the best out of the players and they would respect him more than roy.i normally don't like critisising our managers but im not a roy fan and a club of liverpools size is just to big of a job for him.
03 Oct 2010 17:28:02
Ed, do you think its possible to demand that the players wages be witheld this week after todays horror show just 2 weeks after the Northampton horror show. In fact, we should withold a months wages! Where oh where has our passion for the game gone? Both players & fans alike. We should be hammering Blackpool at Anfield. Is it a possibility to stop their wages do ya think as they're clearly not doing their jobs?! {ed's note - it should be possible, the players are the ones letting everyone down time and time again. It is about time they got some kind of punishment for their lack of real effort, my throat is sore from screaming at them to close someone down time and again. They seem far too content to just let the other side have possession rather than chasing around winning it back.}
03 Oct 2010 17:27:39
"03 Oct 2010 17:20:05
Mr purslow yuove done a great service to liverpool youve put a safe paire of hands in charge .you sacked rafa / turned keny down / havent sold the club as was your remit/ youv got us 3rd from bottom. great jop .a very angry soul man."
I'm sorry, but what the hell does Purslow have to do with anything? You've made him out to be some form of dictator capable of single-handedly making decisions. Couple that with the fact that he was not in any way brought in to sell the club and your ignorance of you own club is frankly startling. We'll never attract new owners whilst we still have fans keen to make up conspiracy theories about those working for the club and keen to portray all the bad results as being their fault rather than looking at the players/ manager.
03 Oct 2010 17:26:40
Hi ed,
for all liverpool supporters like me
the situation is alarming
performances pathetic
future looks dull
but this is the time to show ourselves
why we love liverpool! !
i am suffering and i, m very tired
but it, s our destiny and we need
to stay calm and keep supporting
the CLUB whatever HAPPEN! !
WE
03 Oct 2010 17:26:00
This is theturdz speaking
well thank you moores, parry, souness, evans houllier, benitez, the yanks between you, you have destroyed a footballing institution renowned around the world for great football and the best fans on this planet you are all to blame for the s* te football that has been served up over the last 20 odd years wasted money on s* te players a board of directors with no idea on how to run a football club debts that have to be repaid the pidgeons have come home to roost now we will be lucky to get out of this mess i have only one wish that kenny dalglish is given the chance to reverse this slide if we wait any longer then it will be too late we will go down this is not a knee jerk reaction the time is now to be positive and go for him, we are the laughing stock of the footballing world these americans are making it worse by their absurd valuation of the club my god moores you f*cking b* tard i could strangle you you incompetent prick.the time is now to act lets see if the fans can stop going to games and let the owners know their time is up at the club
from a disgusted theturdz ready with a rope.
03 Oct 2010 17:25:43
Ed let go forward with roy to the championship. no you didn't blame rafa for poulson BUT you blame him for every thing else.soul man. {ed's note - no I don't, but you are obsessed with claiming he is the answer to every problem, even the ones he caused.}
03 Oct 2010 17:24:10
Roy won't get sacked
I do not think that he will leave Liverpool until we are 20th in may
03 Oct 2010 17:23:20
We need 2 things - new owners and uncle harry the fox (harry redknapp) he resurected tottemham and will do the job for us with greatest pleasure.
hristo
03 Oct 2010 17:23:10
Ed, what is your feeling on how much time Roy should get? i don't think he is up to the job in hand if im honest. {ed's note - I just don't see the point in sacking a man who has no chance. It doesn't matter who we bring in until the ownership issue is sorted out, better off leaving things be and getting that done and dusted and letting a new guy come in that they pick. Hopefully someone who will be here for years and build a new dynasty to rival Shanks.}
I see your point ed, but surely you can see that Roy is not going to take us forward. I would rather see us losing with 11 youth players on the pitch. Kenny has been casting a watchful eye on the youths for some time now, i'm sure he could point out at least four youths that would do a better job than the likes of poulsen, jovanavic, dare i say it, carragher. . . .the list goes on. I know you might say that the youths are not yet ready but how do you know for sure if you don't give them the chance to prove they're worth. plenty of young players nailed down first team places when given the chance in recent years in the premiership. . . . . . . .Owen, Fowler, Gerard, Fabregas, Gibbs, in fact half the arsenal team. You get my point, Roy Hodgson has proved so far that he will not pick our younger players over those who are consistantly under performorming. Its so frustrating to see all that talent wasting away in the reserves and youth set up while half of the first team don't look like they care. Rant over!
Mick1980 {ed's note - but Kenny hasn't got the job and the club doesn't need disruption, it needs settling down.}
Roy was brought in to do just that ed, guess what, we are in a worse position now. This is not a knee jerk reaction to todays result. The football we have been playing matches the position we find oursleve's in in the league. Is that what you want as a supporter of your football team? All fans want success but we just wanted a decent showing in the league this year knowing that winning it is way out of our debt at the moment. Do you think that roy can turn things around before January when our better players may opt to jump ship?
Mick 1980 {ed's note - he was not the man I wanted for the job, but I think it is far too early to say he is not the right man for it just yet. I was hoping he would give more of the youngsters a chance, if he is not prepared to take on the first team players head on and drop the underperforming ones, like Johnson, then he will have to be replaced.}
03 Oct 2010 17:20:12
I just don't know what to say.we can't even win against Blackpool.come on roy.please don't say you are proud with the team spirit and everything.dont you get it?your tactic its not working with liverpool.
i think, before the board sack u.u need to step down yourself there mr roy.
you are a good man. .but i don't think you are good enough for liverpool. . you can't even handle the boys.
i am so worried right now.i know. .even though we are down to championship or what ever it is. i am still supporting liverpool fc. .its just that. .i am worry about the way we play.its like those guys don't know how to play football anymore.gosh. .
Oh God please help us.
Malaysian REDS
03 Oct 2010 17:20:06
I think it's safe to say that Liverpool is still owned by the yanks. If the club had been sold I think we may have had the enthusiasm to atleast hold Blackpool to a draw!
This is some kind of sick joke.
03 Oct 2010 17:20:05
Mr purslow yuove done a great service to liverpool youve put a safe paire of hands in charge .you sacked rafa / turned keny down / havent sold the club as was your remit/ youv got us 3rd from bottom. great jop .a very angry soul man.
03 Oct 2010 17:19:21
I have been a liverpool fan for years, and it hurts me to see us sitting in the relegation zone when we should be up there fighting for something bigger and better!
I'm a realistic supporter and although there are problems up above, the players don't play like they want to be there (bar a few). todays result was diabolical, a complete waste of time.
Roy seems to have bit more than he can chew, we have people playing out of position pretty much everywhere and the takeover situation is still looming- and this doesn't help either.
Anybody with any REAL news on the situation?
Why not give babel a go?jovanovic came on and had a mare!. .tbh i don't blame him cos he's playing on the left putting crosses in when he is used to getting on the end of crosses.
03 Oct 2010 17:17:52
This is not rumour but fact they should sack roy hodgson he hasnt got scooby doo. Poulson is the worst central midfielder i have ever seen in a liverpool shirt
03 Oct 2010 17:17:43
Have to agree i think Roy should go, this can't go on. We have had bad times and bad players before but never found ourselves in bottom 3. Not sure about King Kenny though O'Neill would def steady the ship and take no crap from whingers and bottlers, and WTF is Glen Johnson doing, every game he either costs us a goal or pen or tries his best to, have we no one better? Surely playing the kids couldnt be any worse. Also why did we let Ayala go on loan to Hull and keep the greek? Mairt10
03 Oct 2010 17:15:51
Hello liverpool fans how much more of this can we take hodgson is so so wrong for us martin o neil is our man hodgson needs to be sacked today shambles isn't the word paying 100s of thousands of pounds on players wages the reserves would do better than the first team ed what is liverpools fans problem with oneil being liverpool manager
03 Oct 2010 17:15:51
Goodbye roy
timmo lfc
03 Oct 2010 17:15:23
I know all the people on the give him more time/ he needs to get his ideas across/ it's a hangover from Rafa/ it's the owners fault bandwagon will not agree with this but. . . . . .
When Redknapp took over Spurs they looked odds-on for relegation and look at the immediate effect his style of management/ motivation had on them.
They looked like a very good team overnight, not agter 6 games/ 6 months or when the team had taken on his ideas.
I'm not saying I want Roy to be sacked, I'm just saying that it isn't always time that is needed.
The situation with the owners isn't helping and I'm sure there will be an instant relief if they ever get the hell out, but we have to face facts at the moment - we are more likely to be in a relegation fight than a fight for a europe position (I actually think mid-table myself).
There is a lack of confidence and belief, but at the same time the players aren't turning up. Sometimes it is coming across as a lack of commitment or an attitude of I don't care/ can't be bothered, but something has to change.
The quality of the 1st team has gone down a lot, but it still should be good enough to at least fight for a top 4 place.
I can't quite put my finger on what is wrong or what is needed to fix it, but at the moment I am very worried for the rest of the season.
03 Oct 2010 17:13:12
This is nothing short of a disgrace. This season will now be a real battle.
Let's rewind a bit. We should have beaten Arsenal first game of the season: we lost due to a freaky goal. But Masch was the star that day and we have lost him since he left. Then, we have had bad draws, but Sunderland took points off United and we lost to City (who beat Chelseas) and United. So, with other teams losing, we had a chance to get back up there with the last two home games. If we'd won them we would no thave 11 points and be top 4.
A draw and defeat to Blackpool has shown just how much in the S* t we are.
Roy is out of his depth and the players just don't know what to do. The new boys, Cole apart, maybe mierelles, are not good enough. Rafa has to take some fault due to the way he treated players, playing too many players out of position, lack of back for Torres and poor buys. But I doubt we'd have just 6 points if Rafa was still in charge.
We've had a terrible away record all year, so the next game against Everton is going to be tough.
I think it best that Roy just goes. This puts more pressure on the Yanks. The fools want a big profit but the worse the team does the less it is worth! get Dalglish and Thommo in to se them through to mid table.
Been a fan since 1975 and never felt so low. Some serious remedial action is needed and that means getting Roy out.
03 Oct 2010 17:12:58
Lose at home to Blackpool - I know let's blame the American owners - they do need to go asap - but we have far bigger problems than them - players that don't want to play. players that can't play - and players who have absolutely no idea what playing for Liverpool means.
Christian Purslow said ALL money taken in from transfer was available to spend - why didn't we?
03 Oct 2010 17:12:49
Firstly fair play to Blackpool and i wish them luck for the rest of the season. But we can't seem to pass the ball anymore and we have no wingers. Playing Kuyt and Cole wide is no good we have to change to the system we have no creativity in the last third. Its going to be a long season!
03 Oct 2010 17:11:23
Roy hodgson not good enuf for the job sack him! and make it quick martin o`niell in
03 Oct 2010 17:11:14
WTF, Roy please go now, you have not got a clue how to win a match. The sooner new owners come in and bring a new manager the better. Sorry Roy but Liverpool are to big a club for you. If Roy stays say goodbye to Torres even though I would probably take £50m+ for him as his injurys are not looking good for the futre of the club. At the moment sticking pins under my nails is less painfull than watching Liverpool.
03 Oct 2010 17:10:02
Ed i bet you blame rafa for signing poulsen / konchesky roys not to blame is he or you fans who wanted rafa out. how you can say rafa should have gone years ago is unbelievable. you don't see the racist media haveing a go at roy do you? it seems you anti rafa fans won't own up to being wrong you say keep roy until the new owners come in well maybe we should have kept rafa because the way its going well keep roy untill were in the championship. or is that what you expect.
allso ill suport the reds no matter what.a sad soul man. {ed's note - have I said I blame Rafa for the signing of Poulsen? He was quite clearly a mistake, but then Rafa bought about 50 mistakes yet you still hero worship him. Forget him, he has gone and it is time to move on.}
03 Oct 2010 17:09:56
Christian poulsen. .this guy makes lucas look WORLD CLASS. .
SOC(SAVE OUR CLUB). .
03 Oct 2010 17:09:31
Ed, what is your feeling on how much time Roy should get? i don't think he is up to the job in hand if im honest. {ed's note - I just don't see the point in sacking a man who has no chance. It doesn't matter who we bring in until the ownership issue is sorted out, better off leaving things be and getting that done and dusted and letting a new guy come in that they pick. Hopefully someone who will be here for years and build a new dynasty to rival Shanks.}
I see your point ed, but surely you can see that Roy is not going to take us forward. I would rather see us losing with 11 youth players on the pitch. Kenny has been casting a watchful eye on the youths for some time now, i'm sure he could point out at least four youths that would do a better job than the likes of poulsen, jovanavic, dare i say it, carragher. . . .the list goes on. I know you might say that the youths are not yet ready but how do you know for sure if you don't give them the chance to prove they're worth. plenty of young players nailed down first team places when given the chance in recent years in the premiership. . . . . . . .Owen, Fowler, Gerard, Fabregas, Gibbs, in fact half the arsenal team. You get my point, Roy Hodgson has proved so far that he will not pick our younger players over those who are consistantly under performorming. Its so frustrating to see all that talent wasting away in the reserves and youth set up while half of the first team don't look like they care. Rant over!
Mick1980 {ed's note - but Kenny hasn't got the job and the club doesn't need disruption, it needs settling down.}
03 Oct 2010 17:07:24
Don't be stupid it is not protest from the players - the must pay back all the wages they get in double. the were watching the game just like us, but little bit closer. give us back the money.
hristo
03 Oct 2010 17:07:20
Roy was never the man for the job. Nobody with half a brain would touch this job with a barge pole but with all that being said the f*cking players should be ashamed of themselfs and them yank b* tards just f*ckoff
03 Oct 2010 17:07:14
I would guess its curtains on roys time at anfield. my bet is on kenny getting the job as caretaker and getting full time if he does well
dcireland
03 Oct 2010 17:07:07
GET HODGSON OUT NOW
Dont try and tell me that the players we put out on the pitch today are not good enough to beat Blackpool(no disrespect to them). We put a team full of internationals out.
His tactics are horrendous, and he is playing people out of posistion. We don't even attack teams anymore untill it is too late in the game.
ED there is no point waiting till we get new owners, by then we will be cut adrift at the bottom!
Get King Kenny in now, give the players a kick up the arse, then when new owners come in either keep kenny if he is doin well, or bring in a new man!
Spaceman
03 Oct 2010 17:07:06
Roy said we need 5 or 6 players i think he should go for:
Alonso CM
Arbeloa RB
Mascharano CM
Bellamy ST
Crouch ST
jo arne riise LB
Benayoun
OH BUGGER I FORGOT WE SOLD THEM FOR THE CRAP WE HAVE NOW
Evered
03 Oct 2010 17:06:45
I'm stating the bleeding obvious here but because of the ownership situation the whole club is unsettled and the sharp end of this is the performance of the players. I doesn't matter who manages the team the club will be in the same position.
Get the ownership sorted out and maybe things will settle. Otherwise its free fall all the way to the championship! !
03 Oct 2010 17:06:26
Hodgeson out. im f*cking furious. This is the worst day i've ever had as a Liverpool fan. Where are you f*cking muppets who wanted rafa out now? You were wrong. BOLLOX TO YOU ALL, you know nothing about football. Go back to youe xbox's you gimps. I wouldn't be surpised if we go down and it will be your fault.
Gazman {ed's note - no, it will be people like you who still think Rafa was the answer when what was needed was him kicked out years ago.}
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Are you for real Ed?
Rafa's worst game was ten times better than what we saw today!
I say get new owners in and get Rafa back.
Fabian Treezle {ed's note - I am not saying Roy is better, just that Rafa was making things worse, we are still suffering a hangover from the dross he brought to the club.}
03 Oct 2010 17:05:49
This is worse than what happened at Leeds. I can't see us coming back from this demise.
03 Oct 2010 17:05:02
Time to direct your mail towards liverpool site, if they don't want to get the finger out and sort things we stop giving them our hard earned money
03 Oct 2010 17:04:38
Your a decent man roy now do the decent thing and leave!
nowhere near up to the job in hand.you have had plenty of time now to motivate the players and its just not working if anything its getting worse this is certainly titanic time as in sinking ship! !
03 Oct 2010 17:03:44
Our place is championship - only in this was way we will clear all stupid players, managers, coaches and only real players will stay. we will rebuild the squad, find good manager and new owners. you know our symbol - phoenix bird - bur first we need the ashes, we need to burn, we need the fire of championship and later to rise from the ashes.
hristo
03 Oct 2010 17:03:22
What a great manager and team we have got, never seen liverpool this bad.
03 Oct 2010 17:03:21
I think after today's display we should be thinking about avoiding relegation fight come January rather than be close to the top 4.
abbs
03 Oct 2010 17:02:53
For god sake, will someone please remove Roy from his position and bring someone in with attacking flair.
The team is simply not good enough. The squad is simply not good enough.
Alonso and Mashcerano replaced by Poulson and Mierelles (spelling). This is not rocket science.
I don't blame Roy entirely as many of the players he has available are not his buys, but please, surely no one can argue that Poulson or Konchesky are good enough. . .
And I have seen nothing about the style that Roy is trying to bring in that is impressive or which will bring anything like the results required.
Is this is not remedied soon, their will not be a club to sell.
Please, please, please, Mr Gillet and Mr Hicks, sell the club quickly and please whoever comes in, please be brave in making funds available which will attract a top level manager. Apologies Roy, you are a nice guy, but you are not what Liverpool need.
03 Oct 2010 17:02:50
Questions.
1) Is this some sort of brilliantly cunning plan to further devalue the club, so H & G have to take the next half decent offer that comes along?
2) There are obviously other things going on behind the scenes (apart from the ownership issues) with the coaching etc. (the team is not this bad!) and maybe with some players (old or new). What are they and can they be sorted out?
3) Will we ever again see a decent season out of Torres?
4) When will H & G, Roy and the players realise that all those supporters who use their hard earned cash to buy tickets and merchandise (those same people who will on average take about 5/ 6 years to earn what some of those players earn in a week). those supporters who's hearts are breaking at the current state of affairs. . when will they realise we deserve better. Owners willing and able to invest, Management that can get the right players and get them playing right, and players that will put maximum effort in. When will they realise that that is the minimum that LFC and its millions of fans deserve?
Answers
1) If only it was that simple!
2) Not by the current set up!
3) Doubtful
4) Never by the looks of things
Shankly and Paisley must be looking down from heaven, in total shock and dismay, at the way everything this club stood for is slowly falling apart!
03 Oct 2010 17:02:42
Worst side for 50 years
Roy can't motivate players
torres is finished
Gerrard can't do it on his own anymore
back 4 can't keep a line
mid can't make a forward pass
ngog not prem class
Roy now has to go 1 win in 6 and out of a cup we look s* te in euro to.can't see were are next points will come from
Anfield was once a fortress now it's a circus
03 Oct 2010 17:02:32
WTF what is going on? how much time does RH need is he gonna pull his finger out and get the team playing? bottom 3 omg can't rember the last time we were in the bottom 3 after 7 games. I will surpport LFC in good time's bad time's and now it looks like the very very dark time's
03 Oct 2010 17:01:32
Gettin beat by Blackpool at home is a disgrace! !
sorry Roy u have to go. the jobs 2 big for u, in the bottom 3 after 7 games! get a grip
03 Oct 2010 16:59:50
Devastated, I don't know what to say about that.
Blackpool were fantastic but we didn't show up again till second half. Cant wait until the derby which is a cup final for us.
Mairt10
03 Oct 2010 16:59:30
Terrible performance. this team is in shambles, worst Ive seen in 20 years, Roy only making it worse, poulson is a terrbile signing, meireles out of position, our best defender not playing(agger). what a mess. new Owners please come soon, we are in the s* t.
03 Oct 2010 16:59:22
Please please please go roy walk away ur a nice man but can't get d best from our team, we need a liverpool man in charge in our current state
03 Oct 2010 16:57:59
So the club board won't sell the club in a hurry, they want to make sure they can find the best owner for the club for now and the future . . so why the f* * did they now apply the same philosophy when they replaced Rafa . .
Roy
03 Oct 2010 16:57:55
Absolutley disgusted with the way we are playing ok the manager takes the blame but it is down to the players to fight and show spirit for the shirt they are wearing,
we lose it doesn't matter they get there 100,000 a week
its about time the players take responsibility for the disgusting way we are playing ok we might have some real average players but come on now BLACKPOOL AT HOME
03 Oct 2010 16:55:46
WTF?! ROY HODGSON, THIS IS NOT FULHAM, COME ON BOARD, SACK HIM, BRING IN KENNY DALGLISH, I MEAN, HOW CAN THE MOST SUCCESFFUL CLUB LOSE TO BLACKPOOL AND ARE IN THE RELAGATION ZONE, BLIMEY! ! ! !
03 Oct 2010 16:55:37
Liverpool players have joined the protest - that's the only way to explain what happened today. What's the point of a draw - to paper over the cracks and give Roy another opportunity to put positive spin on all this. .
Well deserved zero points! Well done, lads - hopefully this loss is another nail in the coffin of f. .ng owners.
Red Herr Ing
03 Oct 2010 16:55:02
An absolute disgrace.
03 Oct 2010 16:54:53
Sack Roy now
03 Oct 2010 16:54:26
Ed, what is your feeling on how much time Roy should get? i don't think he is up to the job in hand if im honest. {ed's note - I just don't see the point in sacking a man who has no chance. It doesn't matter who we bring in until the ownership issue is sorted out, better off leaving things be and getting that done and dusted and letting a new guy come in that they pick. Hopefully someone who will be here for years and build a new dynasty to rival Shanks.}
03 Oct 2010 16:54:24
For gods sake get Hodgson OUT 6 points from 21 is our worst start in ever surely, WTF is happening to our club! !
CLOY
03 Oct 2010 16:54:15
Kop singing Dalglish, it's got to happen. Make no mistake relegation for us this year if things don't change. Hodgeson's out of his depth, should never of been given the job. Sad day for the club.
03 Oct 2010 16:53:43
Keep up the protests fellow reds great job , the end of englands best team.
got to change everything, now lost faith psv elnino.
03 Oct 2010 16:53:26
All yanks out of football you aint welcome hick and gillet are c* ts
03 Oct 2010 16:53:09
Shocking game again! is Roy really good enough for Liverpool? i say sack him now and get oneill while hes still avaliable
03 Oct 2010 16:52:38
Final 1-2 - we are fighting for relegation. good bye torres, good bye gerrard, good bye pepe, hallo champion. .ship (no mistake no leage, championship is our place)
03 Oct 2010 16:52:35
HODGSON OUT
03 Oct 2010 16:52:29
Hodgeson out. im f*cking furious. This is the worst day i've ever had as a Liverpool fan. Where are you f*cking muppets who wanted rafa out now? You were wrong. BOLLOX TO YOU ALL, you know nothing about football. Go back to youe xbox's you gimps. I wouldn't be surpised if we go down and it will be your fault.
Gazman {ed's note - no, it will be people like you who still think Rafa was the answer when what was needed was him kicked out years ago.}
03 Oct 2010 16:50:21
Get them yanks out of our club now never mind the sons ill sort them out fukin our money givin to them
03 Oct 2010 16:44:30
Poulsen has to be the worst signing of the summer! !
03 Oct 2010 16:43:28
Fair comment about fair weather fans ed. All i can say is i told ye so about Torres. To be fair i'm not the only one who said it though. Now its both Rafa and Roy's fault for not having decent striker back ups. We've had 3 windows since Keane was turfed our yet no forward in! Please don't try to say Jovanovic is a forward! I'm talkin about proven goalscoring quality! Darren Bent for example. Now we gotta play the bitters prob in relegation zone without our main goalscorer! Well done messers Benitez & Hodgson. I'm actually beginning to miss Houllier because we had forwards in his squads! Unbelievable! My worst fears have come to haunt us!
Kev {ed's note - I wouldn't mind if we gave the kids a go, there has to be better than Jovanovic and Poulsen in the stiffs.}
03 Oct 2010 16:43:11
We can't even draw blackpool, what a joke! at least now we are attacking.
hristo
03 Oct 2010 16:39:29
To all u guys who said I was stupid when I said Roy was not good enough for the managers job I salute u! !
f*cking w* k sack him at half time and take sammy lee with him, King Kenny for top job!
Just say we bin Roy. .
1. Who do we bring in?
2. What difference will it make, the same players will be there?
3. If Kenny does come in, what happens if the same thing happens, do we sack Kenny, then who comes in?
It down to the s* te on the pitch, they need to take a long long look at themselves. . what do you think ED. . {ed's note - there are serious problems within the club that need to be addressed. There is no point changing the manager until we get owners that will be prepared to back him fully. This was a terrible performance, but we have been poor for a while now, even the crowd aren't helping matters any more.}
03 Oct 2010 16:37:33
I thought pellegrini was interviewed for managers job?
he has the credentials we need, hodgson got the job because he would keep his mouth shut about boardroom activities and also because of the english medias bias towards english managers. if hodgson was spanish or itilian he would be slated by them
03 Oct 2010 16:37:13
Im hearing jovanovic is crap
03 Oct 2010 16:34:21
Shhhh don't say it to loud but . . relegation
03 Oct 2010 16:29:57
Right hear it goes does anybody think roy got the job before king kenny because he will do what is best for the yanks instead of the club . Think about it people if we are lucky we may finish top ten under roy if tom dicks get s refinanced then come jan many top players may want to jump ship there for making it a lot easeyer to asset strip the club. I believe if king kenny was in charge then the team would not be allowed to play the way they are oh how shanks must be turning in his grave dholden
03 Oct 2010 16:18:30
Posotive change by roy
poulson off javanovic on
03 Oct 2010 16:18:04
Keep the faith, its going to be 3-2 lol, rafa went wrong chasing that di*k barry when he should have kept xavi the passer alonso, rafa please come back lol kingpflc
03 Oct 2010 16:17:08
Liverpool are s* t and i havde been a fan for 35 years, it is so bad i woulid prefer my son to support another team i have not worn my liverpool shirt all season its an embarasment, liverpool are a disgrace, kuyt, lucas, poulson, ngog, johnson, torres, konshesky, maxi can all go with hodgson.
i tried to get behind my team and new manager but my heart is not in it anymore I HAVE LOST THE FAITH WITH LIVERPOOL {ed's note - you won't be missed, I have no time for fairweather fans.}
03 Oct 2010 16:14:41
Club not worth six pounds let alone six hundred million playing like this.time to go roy
03 Oct 2010 16:14:23
At last showing some passion and guts and pace
maybe roy told them a few home truths
03 Oct 2010 16:13:41
I'm not one for sack the manger, but this appears to be a case of scolari.
Get Kenny in now! I'm afraid the day liverpool get outshined at Anfield by Blackpool then there are huge problems!
03 Oct 2010 16:12:35
Mascherano leaving Anfield has opened up the defensive misgivings in the holding midfield role. It has restricted the movements of Gerrard upfront man. Meireles is no way close to him. Come on u reds
03 Oct 2010 16:11:09
Get in. . the greek to the rescue
03 Oct 2010 16:11:06
We are going down! Just not good enough. If we go down it might actually do us some good in the long term (in a perverse sought of way!)
03 Oct 2010 16:10:32
Ed what do you call 2nd / 2 yes 2 champions league finals .all the great nights in europe. what do you think this is beter?. soul man. {ed's note - stop living in the past we were talking about last season.}
03 Oct 2010 16:10:31
Oh people, I have supported LFC for 43 years, I've seen some great times and not so great, but this is the worst Liverpool performance I have ever seen, You can't blame the owners, you can't blame Benitez, these players know how to play football, or so I thought. We can't even control a ball without it bouncing away from us. Can't cross a ball, try to hit difficult passes rather than the easy pass, Torres is now a liability, we rely on him so much that when we lose him for any length of time, which is always at the moment, we have no replacement. Glen Johnson should not be in a starting lin up, he had the cheek to complain about the penalty, it was the most blatant penalty i've ever seen. I am really starting to fear for us now, we have the look of Nottingham forest when everybody said, "Their too good to go down" and they went, mark my words people if this carries on were going down, and it won't even be close. . .I really fear for us.
Sooty
03 Oct 2010 16:07:49
To all u guys who said I was stupid when I said Roy was not good enough for the managers job I salute u! !
f*cking w* k sack him at half time and take sammy lee with him, King Kenny for top job!
03 Oct 2010 16:07:17
Whtas the world coming to. . blackpool 2 up at anfield and utd fans offering sympathy.
i bet i get none tomorrow at work(in manchester)
03 Oct 2010 16:07:02
This can't get any worse. . . Can we have King Kenny back in charge now?, Roy this is not working out. . .
03 Oct 2010 16:06:28
People need to calm down and give roy hodgson some more time with the players. Yes, as im about to post this i am laughing my ass off, again. Sorry ed but roy needs to go. I think you are on your own on this one. On the bright side of things, lfc are playing so poorly they are actualy making me laugh. The home fans at anfield are there for a memorial service it seems. Ironically, one of the main reasons i became a lfc fan is not because of the history, but because of our wonderful fans. That along with our pride, dignity and heart is gone it seems.
Red bl00ded!
03 Oct 2010 16:06:07
Hodgson will not get sacked
Who will do it the same people that brought him in
I can't stand our joke of a team anymore
03 Oct 2010 16:05:27
Big 45 mins for roy and his team - failure is not an option, lose, go and take Sammy with you. Win then live to fight another day. Still get rid of Sammy though, think Pako is still looking for a job!
03 Oct 2010 16:04:23
Meireless the headless chicken, poulson the snail, gerrard the has been, torres the crock, carra the lost (at left back), kuyt the cluless, ngog the pointless slug, johnson the donkey, skrtel the dumb and that greek fool doing sami hyppia impressions, joe cole wishing he had gone to spurs.
Kenny Dalglish is the Answer
Gazman
03 Oct 2010 16:03:25
Ed your wrong we were a good team who had a bad season. roys took over and weve gone backwards
fact .poulson w t f that's all about ?. soul man. {ed's note - no we were a poor team who had a season that was our level.}
03 Oct 2010 16:02:11
Roy out and give the job to Kenny, he should have been given it in the first place in my opinion.
here's hoping for a great second half
YNWA 96
03 Oct 2010 15:59:45
Fellow reds. .I don't post on here as much as I used to, I ashamed to say. I used to travel to games, but given my location(and funds) this has become almost non-existent.
After watching THAT first half, I'm seriously worried. I thought after out first lot of games, we'll fine fine(if not Champions League, then at least Europa). . but now I'm starting to believe all my friends jibes about relegation, players leaving etc etc. . If we can't muster the ability to thread 'simple' one two's together AT HOME. .AGAINST BLACKPOOL - then what hope is there?? ? 1. We should have bought a striker(priority) 2. We should have bought width(no need for Poulsen, we bought Shelvey) I'm, not blaming Roy in particular. it's from top to bottom. .The obvious cancer has spread. The coaches we have are a joke - get rid. Torres injured again. .was he ever fit? I can't really string together sentences right now, sorry - BUT THIS IS BEYOND A WORRY NOW, don't think I've ever heard a louder BOOOOOOO at half time in a long, long time - We're all feeling the same no doubt - I wish I could be positive - was hoping to, but I don't trust Woy one bit, Gerrard looks disillusioned. .and I feel very very sorry for Pepe for the sh*te in front of him. . No excuses Woy, if no miracle happens in the 2nd half. . you need to explain yourself. Speaks YNWA
03 Oct 2010 15:58:23
Watching the blackpool game and im shocked at halftime. .
though im a utd fan, its sad to see liverpool in this state. .hope they come back strong. .starting from this match. .surely the players are not so bad?
but i knew from the moment roy took over. . i said to myself "this guy does not carry the liverpool attitude". . he doesn't even look mentally strong enough. .something liverpool were really superb at. .
03 Oct 2010 15:58:01
Liverpool have no good times anymore
Bill will be sooo disappointed
03 Oct 2010 15:58:01
Can't blame this sh* e on Rafa!
Fabain Treezle
03 Oct 2010 15:57:52
I've wanted to get behind Hodgson, but I just can't anymore, he's made too many errors. It doesn't take a genius to play a team to their strengths, Roy can't see this. He plays everyone out of position and puts a worse players take their place.
Signings - Didn't really excite anyone in the transfer window, but I understand he had financial limitations. Would have liked us to be more ambitious than Poulsen and Konchesky though, as neither are anything more than squad players.
Joe Cole - We got Cole because we promised him more play in the middle. It's a sure-fire way to piss him off playing him wide every game. Wouldn't be surprised to see him leaving in the summer.
Daniel Agger - Roy seems to think slow penalty magnet Skrtel is the perfect partner for slow Carragher and started playing Agger on the left or the bench. The Greek seems to get more time at CB than Agger.
Meireles - Was Meireles chosen by Hodgson? I ask because it appears that he has absolutely no idea how or where to play him. You wouldn't see Alonso, Cambiasso or Essien playing right wing.
Formation - Everytime we've played with a defensive formation we've conceded goals and not scored any. When we go more attacking we put more pressure on the teams, score more and concede less. Play more attacking!
Give him until Christmas to realise his mistakes, if we're still bottom half he has to go. Give Kenny the job until summer and if he's doing well, stick with him.
03 Oct 2010 15:57:35
Ed, do you think Roy will be gone if we don't win {ed's note - no, I don't think he will be gone just yet, not unless this gets worse.}
03 Oct 2010 15:57:06
Roy resign u are not good enough. .
king kenny like it should of been.
03 Oct 2010 15:55:20
Aisian girl is ian aryes misses h*ck Roy off now before we follow Leeds . bring in a proper manger .psv elnino
03 Oct 2010 15:55:17
Glen johnson at it again.
Better we have sit ins and protests to drop him before we can protest about Yonks. Our onfield performance is more important and we ll never win as long as glen p*rnson is I the starting XI.
03 Oct 2010 15:55:06
This is simply unreal - we are genuinely being outplayed by Blackpool at Anfield. I am not one for rash statements but Roy fail with this half time team talk and you must allow yourself to stop talking yourself up and ask can you do this job?
Ynwa Red Paddy
03 Oct 2010 15:54:52
I've given up on hoping for good results at weekends
It is NOT the owners the sh1t manager and the crap players
I'm never buying tickets to afield again I can barely stand to even look for the scores we are a joke {ed's note - what happened to supporting your team through thick and thin?}
03 Oct 2010 15:54:39
Pulled a sickie to watch this crap what a joke if hodgson is the decent man he says he is then he must do the decent thing and leave before its too late
its not hard to see we are'nt getting better we are getting worse
03 Oct 2010 15:54:01
Absolutely disgraceful!
2 down to Blackpool at Anfield. In all my 35 years of supporting Liverpool, this must be the worst performance I have ever seen.
Mr Mancini, F Torres - 30 Million + Adam Johnson = Done Deal
RH - get out of our club - I could do better. Give Kenny the job.
Disgusted
Fabian Treezle
03 Oct 2010 15:53:55
OMG wat a load of s* t over paid and over rated so called super stars torres sould just go now as we aint going to see the best of him ever again so take 35mill and get someone who aint injury prone, wat is poulson doin on a football pitch he aint got a clue and same as johnson they should all leave now so we can start to rebuild our self respect oh and they should shoot hodgson as he is just as s* t if not worse than me nan at least she got half a brain
03 Oct 2010 15:53:52
Abnolutley disgusted with that first half display really starting to s* t myself realising were in the bottom 3 wtf is going on were the new leeds belfastred
03 Oct 2010 15:52:13
What a season, we've gone from bad to a joke. Players that don't know were the goal is and a manager who has done nothing. I think the player should pay the fan to watch them, I'm sorry but I'm so angry
03 Oct 2010 15:50:17
Watching the match against Blackpool and i'm fuming. Roy Dodgson needs to go NOW and king kenny needs to come in until the new owners come in and get us a QUALITY replacement. You only have to look at our possession stats to see that we are crap. I'm fed up, p*ssed off with what i'm seeing on a weekly basis. Manager, owners and liability players out, new manager, owners and GOOD players in.
The Roachmiester
03 Oct 2010 15:50:14
See you roy - time to go
03 Oct 2010 15:50:10
Losing 2-0 at half time to Blackpool (effin disgrace). . I'm now on the side of those who said Roy was a mistake! Bring in someone who the players will instantly respect, and who will restore some passion, spirit and belief! King Kenny for the short term!
What is going on? Can't blame this on the Yanks! This is quickly turning into the biggest farce ever!
El Dialblo! !
03 Oct 2010 15:49:58
I'd like to take this opportunity to personally thank those people that wanted Rafa Benitez out, you got what you wanted. Liverpool are now officially a poor team. Well done.
Gazman {ed's note - we were a poor team anyway.}
03 Oct 2010 15:49:19
Time for king kenny to take charge. sorry roy but you have to go.
03 Oct 2010 15:49:17
Right wtf? is happenin losin 2-0 to blackpool ffs!, get the f*kin amercans and the players need to start f*kin playin football and scorin goals!
03 Oct 2010 15:49:02
Ed can u tell me simple ways to kill yourself coz i can't take it anymore. {ed's note - come on mate, there are more important things in life than even football.}
03 Oct 2010 15:48:20
Maybe this score will make Liverpool fans concede that they are not the team they once were. As an Arsenal fan i'm a bit embarassed that we drew against you.
03 Oct 2010 15:47:50
2-0 counter attack as normal - we cannot play against it - no pace
looked offside
but we are in deep crap
god help us
03 Oct 2010 15:47:40
This is a joke, what on earth is going on, what a laughing stock
03 Oct 2010 15:44:46
Started the game the same as all the rest under hodgson sh@te
sorry but we can't carry on like this we are turning into a laughing stock
im totally gutted thought we would have showed more spirit but again im wrong
03 Oct 2010 15:41:43
Seriously we are 0-1 down at home to a newly promoted team. Thank u Roy Hodgson. U had ur chance and now I think it is time he leaves. I have had enough. Click believable if u have lost ur patience and need think change in manager is essential else GTH
03 Oct 2010 15:37:29
IF LIVERPOOL LOSE THEN HODGSON SHOULD BE SACKED
03 Oct 2010 15:36:30
I would rather play robbie savage than poulson
03 Oct 2010 15:36:21
I predict that if we were to lose today, Roy Hodgson would resign! Johnson should be playing right midfield as he's a liability. Thanks for spending £20m on him Rafa.
Gav the red
03 Oct 2010 15:35:19
I don't know why we persist with johnson being a rb he can not defend at all should play rm let carragher or kelly play there see the penalty against blackpool he just gave away
03 Oct 2010 15:34:33
The penalty is just another reason why hodgson should drop him and play MARTIN KELLY
03 Oct 2010 15:34:04
OMG What are we watching and why
03 Oct 2010 15:32:10
Outplayed by blackpool at anfield! Im literally laughing my ass off! Cant say im surprised though, they have been brilliant.
Red bl00ded!
03 Oct 2010 15:30:19
Glen johnson. . useless atrocious tackle def pen eserve to be 1 down
03 Oct 2010 15:24:09
Torres off after 9 mins and blackpool should be in fornt they are bossing it
03 Oct 2010 15:10:56
Torres injured and substituted. Wtf.? Why Ed.? {ed's note - groin went by the looks of it.}
03 Oct 2010 15:02:36
03 Oct 2010 14:26:26
(i just noticed ed, theres no babel again
Harry5 {ed's note - do you think Babel deserves yet another chance after his terrible performances in the ones he has had?}
No but i still prefer him over jpvanovic and maybe maxi
Harry5 {ed's note - I would prefer to keep giving Pacheco more chances myself, the experience he will gain now will be invaluable in the future.}
Yeah , i forgot about him
I feel he shud be at least on the bench, but if not its stupid having him in the reserves when we could just loan him out
Harry5 {ed's note - I agree mate, he is being wasted in the stiffs.}
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i would deffo have him in there. is Roy thinking str8? at least rafa brought babel on as a super sub (which may i add babel reli lifts the team when used like that) roy talks about giving him chances but i don't think babel has played in the prim-lg yet has he?
03 Oct 2010 15:01:52
L0l it better be. A loss against northampton and in the relegation zone. my rep is on the line:o( but anywayz good luck everyone.
Red bl00ded!
03 Oct 2010 14:58:10
This could be another long day and a long week at work, my mate at work is blue nose and couldnt wait to take the piss that we are below them now. Might emigrate till some rich arab buys us.
Mairt10
03 Oct 2010 14:54:10
L0l you never know ed, they might surprise us. Arrgh who the hell am i trying to kid. .
Red bl00ded! {ed's note - I am hoping my bad feeling is a good thing lol.}
03 Oct 2010 14:54:07
Is there any chat room today, ed? {ed's note - yes mate it has been open a while.}
03 Oct 2010 14:52:17
Who the hell is playing left back?
Mairt10 {ed's note - Carra is left back.}
03 Oct 2010 14:47:55
Alotta thanks ed. My congratulations in advance to blackpool. Poulsen, carra, kyrgiakos, skrtl all in one team equals to us getting killed. .again.
Red bl00ded! {ed's note - I can't say I feel confident either mate.}
03 Oct 2010 14:47:01
Is Babel not even on bench today ed?
Mairt10 {ed's note - I didn't see him there mate, that was the confirmed team I posted.}
03 Oct 2010 14:41:27
Ed or anyone reading, can you please post the team sheet for today please? My line up would be. .
Gk reina
rb kelly
cb skrtl
cb carra
lb mavinga
rm kuyt
cm gerrard
cm mereiles
lm babel/ amoo
am cole
torres
Red bl00ded! {ed's note - Reina, Johnson, Carragher, Kyrgiakos, Skrtel, Poulsen, Gerrard, Cole, Meireles, Torres, Kuyt. SUBS: Jones, Maxi, Jovanovic, Lucas, Spearing, Ngog, Kelly.}
03 Oct 2010 14:28:27
What ed just said about turan is exactly my point. A player who clearly wants to play for us, who would def add something different to our squad and we have'nt made an approach.
You just know he will be at spurs or villa or worse everton next season. Why does this always happen?
Anyway come on the reds today give us something to cheer, a good win might do the world of good for confidence levels
Mairt10
03 Oct 2010 14:15:29
Should have Played this team against Blackpool instead:
Reina
Johnson Carragher Skrtel Kelly
Gerrard Meireles
Kuyt Cole Jovanovic
Torres
03 Oct 2010 14:11:01
Poulsen?
I'd rather play Lucas, Drop POOHLSON and play Raul in the middle, move Cole behind torres and give Babel the shot you told him he could have!
Deeply concerned
03 Oct 2010 13:59:37
Alot of people on here playing fantasy football so i'll have a go lol.
reina
kelly skrtel agger taiwo
cole gerrard banega turan/ mata
bent
torres
i know im living in dreamland but ed could we get any and would you like to see any of them at liverpool {ed's note - Taiwo is out of contract next summer isn't he? So he is perfectly possible and Turan is desperate to play for us so again definitely possible. Banega and Mata would be possible too, Valencia are still in serious money difficulties and would find any decent cash offer almost impossible to refuse. The one I doubt we would get is Bent, unless he pushes for the move himself.}
03 Oct 2010 13:50:55
". .I couldn't give a monkey's whether we're 16th or 18th at the moment. .What bothers me is that we have only got six points and I would have liked a few more.
"But then I knew Manchester United and Manchester City were going to be tough. .I knew Arsenal with 10 men was going to be a tough game, so maybe six points isn't so bad at all. ."
Well, I honestly don't know what to make of this.The bloke says he's bothered that we've only been able to get six points, as a he "would have liked more".He, however, "couldn't give a monkey's whether we're 16th or 18" (direct result of amassing only six points).He goes on to add that, considering the opposition we've had to face (Arsenal, Manure and s* tty), "maybe six points (in six games, it must be said) isn't so bad at all".
Wow!I don't know what to say.
Johnson, Meireles, Gerrard, Torres, Cole, Agger, Babel, Kuyt, Pepe, Maxi (all internationals players), Lucas, Pacheco, and not his tactics, are the problem here, according Roy.
These tactics have worked for him for 35 years, and why should he change them now?
People keep saying "give him time", "he'll enventually get it right".NO he won't.
You see, his tactics have worked well at small clubs only looking to (1)preserve their league status, (2)finish in the top 10. .hence the Malmos, Fulhams and the other nobodies.The man's never won a trophy in over 30 yrs.
There's nothing to write home about that he did at Inter, excerpt nearly ruin Roberto Carlos.And, as I've said many times, it's what he'll do to many our very gifted players if he stays on.He's already marginalised Agger and made him our reserve left back, played Raul, Pacheco, Cole way out of position.
We've got greatly technically gifted players who, when allowed to play, would rip the arse off any team.But they're shackled;they've a mentor who hasn't the aptitude and nous to work and get the best out of their talents.And if he Hodgson either stays on or doesn't change his methods, I bet my testicles that, either this January or in the summer, Agger, Johnson, Torres, Pepe, Pacheco and Meireles (yes, Meireles) will be off.Replacing them will be L Young, Pantsil, Schwazer, SWP, Petrov and Crouch.
What we've seen thus fa is what we'll get througout the season.There won't be no positional play, no guile no offensiveness. .Hodgson doesn't operate like that.
So, for me there are two solutions:we cut our losses with Hodgson (along with Lee) right now whilst the damage hasn't gone irreparable.We get in Pellegrini, and have Kenny as his interim assistant.
Or, Hodgson stays and sees sense and ditches his philosophy and adapts his methods according to the players' strength (how likely is that?).
I hate to say it, but at this rate, a relegation battle isn't that too distant a possibility.We can fool ourselves all we want with the "it's too early to be looking at the log" line, fact is we've got an inferior manager, who's never won anything in over thirty years, is rigid, has never worked, let alone thrived, in a high-pressure environment like LFC.
Some of his comments the past couple of weeks paints a picture of a man losing the plot. .faulting all and sundry bar himself for virtually all that's gone pear-shaped.
He was brought in to dispel the anxiety and misgivings, assure the passengers, and steady the ship in these turbulent waters.What he's done so far, instead, is engender more confusion and outrage his passengers even more.
If he cannot, as has been evidence, manipulate the controls, what are the odds of him steadying and navigating the whole thing to safety?
Tough times ahead.
Ps:ed, since you've been so vocal in calling for support for Hodgson, I'd like to hear from you what you make of his team selections, formations, tactics, timing of subs, apparent inability to identify and rectify defects during a game, his insistence that his tactics are not fault here.What have you seen to convince that things are about to take a turn for the better?Please, do respond.
Gracias,
Lombardi Cazorla {ed's note - never won anything in 30 years? He won the league, I think, 5 times in a row in Sweden. He is one of the most successful English managers of all time (I know not saying a lot) and Moratti says that his biggest mistake in football was sacking him from Inter. While I don't agree with his tactics and timing of his subs etc, I don't agree with Fergie's either yet he has done alright.}
03 Oct 2010 13:50:14
I agree with everyone on here about Van da Vaart . For the previous 3 transfer windows we have been linked with him so why not sign him? Why do we always let these type of players get away but break our backs to get the unproven Jovanovic, the ordinary Poulsen, the erratic Johnson. Also would it be crazy and too soon to give Sterling a place on the bench seeing as we really don't have anything else like him for pace and trickery? He would def scare the blackpool back line.
One final question: If we fail to beat Blackpool does Ed think Roy should go?
Mairt10 {ed's note - no I don't think he should go, it is far too early to get rid of a manager.}
03 Oct 2010 13:35:51
I agree that Shelvey should be given a run today. He has looked a decent player in all of his appearances in close season. He would provide badly needed energy in a tired looking midfield. Surely he would have more of an influence than Poulsen and his passing has looked sharp. For some strange reason I still have a tiny bit of hope left that Babel will turn into the player we all thought he might be, really thought Hodgson would get the best out of him
03 Oct 2010 13:21:39
My team for every match if we didn't have any injuries would be
reina
johnson carragher skyrtel agger
kuyt meireles gerrard jovanovic
cole
torres
I think this is our strongest team, plenty of attacking options and solid in defence.
03 Oct 2010 13:18:59
My team for every game subject to having no injuries would be
reina
johnson carragher skyrtel agger
kuyt meireles gerrard jovanovic
cole
torres
03 Oct 2010 13:18:32
Word going round at the mo is that this will be the team today:
- - - - - -Reina- - - - - -
Johnson-Soto-Skrtel-Carragher
- - - Meireles- Poulsen- - -
Kuyt- - - Gerrard- - - -Cole
- - - - - -Torres- - - - - -
03 Oct 2010 13:15:57
I cannot believe this page still filled up with posts blaming Rafa for where we are today . .
Strange enough today Roy was quoted as saying the team is 6 players short of competeing for top 4
Deja vu , the difference last year the manager said it was 5 players short. And that statement cost the club 6m to get rid of one manager and replace him by a worse one . I wonder if that was Roy's goodbye message
Roy
03 Oct 2010 13:15:39
Fabian,
Like Rafa you're clearly an arrogant numpty!
Irish Kev
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I'm not an arrogant person in the slightest. I just don't think enough fans give Rafa the credit that he deserves and it annoys me. Many fans seem to jump on the bandwagon and decide to blame Rafa for what is going on at the club now, instead of realising the problem lies closer to home. I just wonder if we had won all of our opening matches and were sitting at the top of the league, would everyone be praising Rafa - I don't think so.
That said, I think we should forget about the past, whatever we think of it, and concentrate on supporting what is still the best club in the world.
Fabian Treezle
03 Oct 2010 13:14:10
Hey Ed who will be better option at central defence between this two - Daniel Ayala or Danny Wilson. I know Ayala is on loan till Jan. to hull. Coz honestly speaking i havent see both of them play much. {ed's note - I haven't seen much of Wilson, though I have heard good things of him from Rangers fans. So I will have to choose Ayala as he has been excellent, he is doing really well for Hull and showing great composure on the ball and good positional sense, pace and strength.}
03 Oct 2010 13:05:39
"The Irish Rover
( Torres for a hat trick today)"
I also have the feeling that today will belong to Torres and he will score 3
Roy
03 Oct 2010 13:04:07
Hi eds (jay essex red) hope your well boys. WELL ITS SUNDAY COME ON THE POOL LETS SHOW EM WHOT WE CAN DO BIG WIN THE REDS. . . . . . . 3 NILL TODAY ) THE STORM IS BLOWING OVER NOW AN STILL ITS NO NEWS FROM HICKS AN CO ED THATS GREAT NEWS FOR US BY THAT I MEAN THEY WILL SOON BE NO MORE, , , NO NEWS IS GOOD NEWS ED WALK ON WALK ON, , WHOT I WANTED TO SAY IS WHY ITS LITTLE ROY (ARE) GAFFA GETTING A REAL BAD TIME FROM ALL OVER THE PLACE PS MOSTLY THE( PRESS I LOVE EM BUT COULD NOT EAT A HOLE ONE ha .) WE SOULD BE RIGHT BEHIND HIM ALL THE WAY HE IS DOING THE JOB 4 ME, , HOW HARD IT MUST BE TO SORT OUT ALL THAT NEEDS DOING IN 1 STROKE MAKE IT ALL ROSEY HE IS THE MAN AN WILL SORT IT OUT WITH( TIME TIME TIME) I THINK HE IS GREAT NEWS FOR OUR CLUB AN ONE THING ARE GREAT CLUB GIVES IS (TIME 2 GAFFA, S.) (SOME) OF ARE PLAYERS ARE WELL BELOW PAR AT THE MIN AN MUST (MUST) TAKE A LOT OF THE BLAME THEY ARE ON BIG MONEY AN ARE NOT DOING THE JOB(FACT) AT THE MO THAT IS, , , , WITH 3 OR 4 WINS UNDER ARE BLETS WE WILL SEE ARE BOYS WITH THERE HEADS AN TAILS UP THEN WE WILL BE UP AN RUNNING, , ROY THE TEAM AN ALL OF US THE FANS NEED TO PULL (TOGETHER) AS ONE TEAM WE CANT KEEP HEARING THE PLAYERS ARE GETTING UNSETTALED BY THE TAKEOVER STUFF?? COS THAT SHOULD NOT BE THE CASE THE TAKEOVER JOKE HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR YEARS KNOW AN SHOULD NOT COME IN TO IT AT ALL WELL IVE HAD MY RANT AN FEEL LOTS BETTER(3 NILL THE POOL) AN I WIILL DRINK TO THAT HELL YER. WALK ON THE POOL, RED TILL DEAD, JAY ESSEX RED 4 LIFE, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , ED ANY LATEST INFO MATE {ed's note - I agree mate, the team needs our support right now, more than ever before. I don't have anything new on the takeover, I would not expect anything to slip out until at least the 6th, probably not until after then even.}
03 Oct 2010 13:03:55
Reina
kelly. ayala. agger. coentrao
banega
.
schweinsteiger
.
gerrard
cole- - - - - - - - - mata
.
torres
What a team that would be. . .
what'd u think ed? {ed's note - it looks a fantastic team on paper, I would love to see us bring Banega in.}
03 Oct 2010 11:30:30
I suppose I could be a Man United fan if you care to read this the way YOU want it to sound . . but instead, I'm a season-ticket holder of more than 33 years standing; home and away games; in and out of Europe with us over the past three decades. So maybe I know a little bit about supporting the club.
We are in a mess.
I'm 52 and not prone to tell people to h*ck off at my age, but I will suggest that to the so called 'diehard fans' who believe they exist in their own world of red and nobody has the right to say we are falling into an abyss.
I'm not bothered by where we are in the table after a few games. A win today and we can be in the top eight I think. But it's where we are in terms of our reputation. our future and our past that concerns me.
We are living in the past (as Ian Anderson once said!) and yet many of us refuse to see the road ahead.
"No big Premier League club has ever gone bust, so it won't happen to us!"
Enron ($21 billion turnover went bust).
"Nobody will allow LFC to go into administration and be relegated!"
Leeds (Champions of this country and powerful in Europe) ended up in League Two.
"Players want to play for us we are so famous and big!"
Van der vaart didn't; Loic Remy (cashed by six clubs) stayed at home; numerous other players have suggested in their national media that as we are out of the CL we are not a real draw these days.
Yet we still believe we are huge and going places!
As a sort of loose comparison - in Formula 1, Lotus was a monster name and now they are at the back of the grid; Ferrari have financial issues are trying to get the regs changed to help their cause. Big names come and go, even though it may take 30 plus years to happen.
Maybe this is what we are on now. Maybe we are heading to be a middle ranked team in the PL and flirting with the Europa League from now on?
Back to the 'diehards' above - don't scream and shout and say "support your club no matter what!" and then fire off inane abuse. I have been doing that since before many of the posters on here were born. But it has taken me five years to realise that we are not the club we used to be.
Steve Parker on here was saying over and over that we are now "an average club with a massive history."
God, how right he is.
It won't stop us banging on about the old days and the good times to come, but maybe these are the 'good times' at the moment and it may only get worse.
Of course there is always some rich bloke around the corner with a loose £18,000,000,000,000,000,000 in his pocket who is going to build the 175,000 seater stadium in Stanley Park and give the manager £100,000,000,000,000 to spend on new players! But I may have more of a chance of marrying Catherine Deneuve than that.
I am NOT a Man United fan.
But I could be, because we may both be heading in the same direction.
03 Oct 2010 10:56:43
Gk reina
rb arbeloa
cb ayala
cb agger
lb riise
rm kuyt
cm gerrard
cm alonso
lm riera(was a good player)
am cole
st torres
bench and reserve: bellamy, crouch, benayoun, luis garcia, carragher, johnson, aurelio, lucas, hyypia, kelly, pacheco, shelvey, ngog, dudek.
see where im going with this? We should and couldve won the league title very long ago. But what do i know, rite? Managers such as rafa know much better.
Red bl00ded!
03 Oct 2010 10:19:03
The Irish Rover {ed's note - what about Hamann and Hyypia?}
Hmmm, Not world class Ed in my humble opinion.Then again was Masch who Rafa quoted as being one of the top 5 players in the world at his position. Debatable I suppose Ed, Hyypia maybe because he was there for so long but then again we as fans would have a biased view.
The Irish Rover
03 Oct 2010 10:07:27
The Irish Rover {ed's note - he has been poor for 2 seasons not one, and for second before Rafa he was a central midfielder, Rafa played him as an out and out attacker, of course he will have scored more. Especially as you are talking about his career from the start when he played as a right back on numerous occasions. Goal records are irrelevant unless you also include other factors, position played in for instance. Would you expect a second striker (Gerrard's position for the last few seasons) to score more than a central midfielder?}
Ed, 24 goals in 08/ 09 season is not a bad season! 12 goals in 09/ 10 is! I did state in my original post that he has been playing in a totally different position, But at the end of the day it is still something that has improved under Rafa. Would you expect a second striker that gerrard has been playing for the last 2 seasons to be making last ditch tackles in his own box? In Gerrards case you lose one thing & gain another
Ps
I know it's early into the season but the fact that we've conceded 7 out of 8 goals from crosses ( league matches)! Do you think Rafa's heavily critisied zonal marking was so bad? Or do you think our defenders are so poor it wouldn't make much difference?
The Irish Rover {ed's note - I never had a problem with zonal marking, I have always thought it was the defenders at fault not the system. Man to man marking has weaknesses as well, neither system is perfect. Even those who use man to man marking like to have people on the posts which is zonal marking.}
03 Oct 2010 10:06:31
Hey Ed, imagine if we have 25-30 million to spend on a striker in january. Which among this 5 will u like to have at our club?
1) Kun Aguero
2) Luis Suarez
3) Edin Dzeko
4) Darren Bent
5) Karin Benzema
I wud prefer Aguero coz he is still young compared to others and is already proven in la liga. Wat say Ed.? {ed's note - out of those 5? I would say it has to be between Bent and Suarez. I am not convinced Aguero is the right partner for Torres. Dzeko I am just not impressed with what I have seen of him and Benzema is fat and lazy.}
03 Oct 2010 10:03:50
We should play the kids today? what a load of crap. .
Play your stongest team give em the churchill and don't let them (blackpool) breath for 10 seconds and if you go 5 up don't you dare take your foot off the peddle. .You have to get full confidence back before you can even think to throwing the kids to the lions. And im sure Roy wants to fanny about while hes s* ttn himself to get a good result. SMf
03 Oct 2010 09:50:57
03 Oct 2010 08:58:47
There are some very delusional fans on here. I can't believe fans still back Rafa it's ridiculous! He's left us with a squad that consists of Reina, Gerrard & Torres. The rest of the squad isn't good enough, reserves are rubbish, youth is rubbish. It hurts me to say this, but some of you guys need a reality check, your starting to sound like Newcastle fans. We had a 2 year period where we looked strong & it's been going down hill ever since. Rafa lost us the league 2 seasons a go with his negative football which lead to too many home draws. Sure we won a few trophies. . . on penalties, but the bulk of the squad for those 2 years were Houlliers team. Since Gerrard, what decent young player has come through the ranks? The owners have to take as much of the demise of our great club as Rafa because 3 seasons a go they could of sacked him, but bottled it because of fans pressure. . That was there biggest mistake! Really really hope we can get new owners in & a new manager, but it's going to take several years before we can even think of challenging. Hopefully changes soon.
Gav, a very sad red! :0(
Well we only had Gerrard when Rafa came, now we have 2 more so that's a 200% improvement I think.
The Irish Rover {ed's note - what about Hamann and Hyypia?}
03 Oct 2010 09:43:10
Zinedine Zidane quoted in 2009 that gerrard was the best player in the world. That's 4 years nearly after Rafa took over. It's hard to say that Rafa had no input into Gerrards improvement. Also when Rafa came he changed Gerrards position, look at his goal record since Rafa came & before he came. Credit were credit is due Ed. Gerrard might have still been the best midfielder in the world, it's hard to say considering it might have been in a totally different position. {ed's note - oh well if Zidane, a person so noted for his work in the scouting community and ability to recognise player's abilities, says so, well it must be true! Has Gerrard's work rate increased due to Rafa's input? Have his defensive abilities and positioning improved? I fail to see anything about Gerrard's game that has improved, but I can see areas that have weakened. Now he no longer busts a gut to get back and help out in defence, even his biggest attribute, his lung bursting forward runs, are almost gone these days.}
Lol, Well no harm to you Ed but if I have to take a opinion on a player from you or Zidane who do you think most people will take. He's still got eyes Ed like you & me. You fail to see anything in Gerrards game that has improved under Rafa? Go & look at his goals record pre Rafa & then the goals he scored under him. Yes he has had to date one bad season ( last
season).
The Irish Rover {ed's note - he has been poor for 2 seasons not one, and for second before Rafa he was a central midfielder, Rafa played him as an out and out attacker, of course he will have scored more. Especially as you are talking about his career from the start when he played as a right back on numerous occasions. Goal records are irrelevant unless you also include other factors, position played in for instance. Would you expect a second striker (Gerrard's position for the last few seasons) to score more than a central midfielder?}
03 Oct 2010 09:33:38
Irish Kev
Did Rafa's rant really cost us the league? Seriously? Players can play in high profile matches like Champ league finals & FA Cup finals, but a couple of home truths about Fergie & all the players fall apart?
You also mention how Liverpool went out of the CL last season with a whimper yet don't mention all the previous seasons were Liverpool punched well above their weight!
Credit where it is due Irish Kev. Let's see how well Hodgson does. Even at this early stage it doesn't look good & I'm the eternal optimist!
The Irish Rover ( Torres for a hat trick today)
03 Oct 2010 09:26:02
Irish kev you missed out one more thing rafas to blame for. you should blame rafa for the state of the
world and everything bad that happens.It really does
amaze me that anti rafa fans don't give him any credit for what he did .yes he made misstakes but when you shop at tescos and the teams your against are shoping at harrods what do you expect?.
one poster said he fell out with sammi/ crouch but both these players just wanted to be first team players.crouch or torres you pick. alonso great player but he had a good first year very good last year inbetween he was o/ k. rafa didn't want to replace him with barry he was going to put stevie in his place barry on the left. you say he should have kept kean but he missed loads of chances when he was with us and where is he now how many games does he play for spurs do you mean players not good
enough for them should be in our team?. you say rafa was lucky in turkey what about all the games to get there?. i wasnt going to post any more in defence of rafa but i just can't sit by and not respond when some fans ignore some of the conditions he had to work under.soul man.
03 Oct 2010 08:58:47
There are some very delusional fans on here. I can't believe fans still back Rafa it's ridiculous! He's left us with a squad that consists of Reina, Gerrard & Torres. The rest of the squad isn't good enough, reserves are rubbish, youth is rubbish. It hurts me to say this, but some of you guys need a reality check, your starting to sound like Newcastle fans. We had a 2 year period where we looked strong & it's been going down hill ever since. Rafa lost us the league 2 seasons a go with his negative football which lead to too many home draws. Sure we won a few trophies. . . on penalties, but the bulk of the squad for those 2 years were Houlliers team. Since Gerrard, what decent young player has come through the ranks? The owners have to take as much of the demise of our great club as Rafa because 3 seasons a go they could of sacked him, but bottled it because of fans pressure. . That was there biggest mistake! Really really hope we can get new owners in & a new manager, but it's going to take several years before we can even think of challenging. Hopefully changes soon.
Gav, a very sad red! :0(
03 Oct 2010 08:50:32
Re: blooding younger players today (Blackpool)
Never mind Amoo - I want to see Shelvey playing instead of Poulsen/ Lucas.
RedTed
03 Oct 2010 08:17:26
Fabian Treezle {ed's note - he did not turn Gerrard into the best midfielder in the world - Gerrard, if anything, has gone backwards under Rafa's stewardship. No longer is he taking games by the scruff of the neck like he did in the past. Rafa got him to slow down and take it easier and play at 60% for an entire match, instead of 100% for 80min then tiring towards the end. I don't see how any sane person can say Gerrard is a better player for this. He has certainly not been the Gerrard that won games singlehandedly for two seasons now. Rafa inherited the best midfielder in the world, not created.}
Zinedine Zidane quoted in 2009 that gerrard was the best player in the world. That's 4 years nearly after Rafa took over. It's hard to say that Rafa had no input into Gerrards improvement. Also when Rafa came he changed Gerrards position, look at his goal record since Rafa came & before he came. Credit were credit is due Ed. Gerrard might have still been the best midfielder in the world, it's hard to say considering it might have been in a totally different position. {ed's note - oh well if Zidane, a person so noted for his work in the scouting community and ability to recognise player's abilities, says so, well it must be true! Has Gerrard's work rate increased due to Rafa's input? Have his defensive abilities and positioning improved? I fail to see anything about Gerrard's game that has improved, but I can see areas that have weakened. Now he no longer busts a gut to get back and help out in defence, even his biggest attribute, his lung bursting forward runs, are almost gone these days.}
03 Oct 2010 08:10:37
Van Der Vaart 8 mil
Watching match of the day how could he not have been considered? We have poulsen, If we knew he was going to be available every effort should have been made to get the player, his vision, movement and passing is world class, he would have opened the gap for Torres no question. Our ambitions need to take a turn for the greater, even thinking about players such as Poulsen is a downbeat attitude, i think i have now realised why the team seem to be so lack luster. When before your very eyes the likes of Spurs are attracting top quality players and man city appear to have a glow which can be seen up the road what are our players going to feel? yes they need to sort it out and play to thier ability but as we have all said, this is the great LFC, and us fans along with our players are bitterly dissapointed with what slander is going on at our club. January needs desperatly to show intent. Trim the squad hugely, i.e have 25 players on the books. And with money generated and funds provided get one top class signing, example VDV 8 mill. They are out there!
Robben and Sneijder both went for a similar price a season ago. Time to be ruthless in our dealings!
COME ON LIVERPOOL!
03 Oct 2010 08:10:03
02 Oct 2010 23:08:27
Andy.m why don't the club listen to the fans who wotch these players. the fans could rate the players better than manager does. We see it all and with the internet. why can't the fans have a voice inside the club.
i agree mate this was my oppinion you might or might not agree with it but haveing watched 7 games so far this season and i live in devon myself and the rest of the liverpool faithful can see what the problems are why the manager can't or won't do the same i don't understand
03 Oct 2010 05:43:47
Bull* *t
Rafa brought us Pepe Reina the best goalkeeper in the world, turned Jamie Carragher into one of the best centre halfs in the world, turned Steven Gerrard into the best centre midfield in the world, brought us Fernando Torres, Luis Garcia, Xabi Alonso, Daniel Agger, Dirk Kuyt etc. Our youth system is ten times stronger. He won the European Cup and the FA Cup. He came that close to winning the Holy Grail two seasons ago that many Man Utd fans thought we should have won it. Yes he made some mistakes and last season was a disaster but I don't agree that he left us worse than he found us. Just rubbish!
Fabian Treezle {ed's note - he did not turn Gerrard into the best midfielder in the world - Gerrard, if anything, has gone backwards under Rafa's stewardship. No longer is he taking games by the scruff of the neck like he did in the past. Rafa got him to slow down and take it easier and play at 60% for an entire match, instead of 100% for 80min then tiring towards the end. I don't see how any sane person can say Gerrard is a better player for this. He has certainly not been the Gerrard that won games singlehandedly for two seasons now. Rafa inherited the best midfielder in the world, not created.}
Sorry now Fabian mate but you're an arrogant person to think its "bulls* t" that Rafa didn't leave us worse off!
What about the numerous mistakes in the transfer market? Nunez, Josemi, Itandje, Cavallieri, Lucas, Jovanovic, Voronin, Morientes etc etc. The list is endless. Now i admit Alonso was a superb signing (John Giles said at Euro 04 he'd be good so if he spotted it then surely Rafa being from Spain would spot his potential too much like Wenger spotted Viera before other Prem managers) but obviously Rafa being Spanish had an advantage. Pepe is not the worlds # 1 keeper. He is realistically in the top 3 - 5 so take off your blinkers there. Carra was already a very very good center half alongside Hyypia before Benitez came to us. As the Ed said above Stevie Gerrard was an amazing player before Rafa came & he has adapted his game in the last 2 - 3 years especially. Rafa never in a million years made him a better player - sorry! Don't even start me on Garcia, scored goals yes but was & is the most frustrating player i have seen play for us in my 22 years supporting the club. Dan Agger can't even get in our team currently but is a good player to be fair. Kuyt = Same as Garcia but with more work rate.
How about the numerous arguments Rafa caused with players (good players) that forced them to leave as a direct consequence (Hyypia, Crouch, Alonso, Riera, Dudek etc etc). His tactical errors like playing Kewell vs Milan in 05, we were 3 nil down at half time so he brings on Hamann to shore us up so we don't lose 5 or 6 nil but guess what we have the most amazing comeback that'll never be repeated in such a high profile game again (i credit Liverpool supporters with that comeback for their undying support at half time and beyond), Rafa somehow gets the credit for a tactical masterstroke (give me a break, only for a dive from Gerrard we wouldn't have scored a 3rd and Dudek's amazing double save in extra time - how was Dudek thanked? Kicked to the bench). In our 2nd final in 07 Rafa played an unbelieveably defensive line up against an ageing Milan side who were definately there for the taking (Left Bellamy on bench the whole game, Brought Crouch on for final 10 mins only when 2 nil down yet he was Champions League top scorer that season, Fowler left out). Brought Fowler the legend back to the club (you can't imagine how happy i was when that happened) but in 16 months Rafa couldn't get him fit seemingly or his fitness coach (who Rafa hired) couldn't. Rotation - Need i say more on that one! Egotistical - Example: Robbie Keane, we could have kept him for when Torres got injured in 08/ 09 second half of season but no Rafa had to make a point to Parry & turf the guy out so to massage his own ego. Torres got injured near the end of the season & we drew nil nil with both Fulham & West Ham at home (4 points which ultimately cost us the title you say Rafa nearly won - he did but blew it himself with the lack of forwards he left us with & possibly with the Rafa "fact" rant. Are you getting the picture yet? 7th last season, out of the Champs Lg with a whimper, Buying & wasting our money on rubbish players as i touched on earlier. This all came to mind without even having a good think about it, if i thought about it i'd probably be here all night!
He brought us down mainly with his arrogance (like you Fabian) & ego but you two are clearly off the same page.
At least next time before you declare something to be "bulls* t" try to offer some sort of half decent argument to back it up. Arogance is pathetic!
Irish Kev
03 Oct 2010 04:03:25
{Editor's Note: It is too early in the season to be looking at league tables. Recent games have shown that using the experienced players does not work too well. I say freshen it up a bit.}
But then if Roy does try youth & we win 3 or 4 nil he'll be considered a genius for freshening it up as you say.
Oh who'd be a manager eh?!
Such a hard & thankless job!
Irish Kev
03 Oct 2010 03:58:35
{Editor's Note: It is too early in the season to be looking at league tables. Recent games have shown that using the experienced players does not work too well. I say freshen it up a bit.}
When do you start looking at league tables then cause this is a nailed on 3 points if we play even half decent?! We're not in a position to risk those 3 points. If we risk a loss / draw by tossing in inexperienced players we could regret it come the end of the season. For relegation reasons / European qualification reasons & Roy is fighting for his job at the moment so there is no way he'd risk another terrible result by experimenting now.
It could be a disaster.
Thank god you're not the manager :)
We need to get the best possible start to a season not play catch up with players possibly out of form & confidence after christmas.
It'd be professional suicide for Roy if he took the risk & it failed. Just look at the criticism he got for Northampton when he was brave enough to try kids.
Most people were sayin he should risk it (including me) then when it fell to pieces criticised him & called for his head (shamefully me too).
I respect your opinion like i assume you respect mine but think of the possible consequences of defeat to Blackpool at home with the derby next & us in the relegation zone. What youth player would want to play their first game under so much pressure.
The whole point of playing youth players is to do so under little or no pressure so they have no fears.
I think its safe to say now is a fearful time!
Irish Kev {ed's note - you do not understand the reason or point for playing youth players. The point is to improve their game and see if they are good enough for the first team. If they have no pressure and fear you find out very little about them - it is playing them under pressure that enables you to judge their real ability. If they haven't got the mental strength to cope then they will never make it.}
03 Oct 2010 03:28:54
{Editor's Note: Today is a good opportunity for us to blood some youngsters. I would like to see Amoo given 30 minutes.}
I'd agree if we are 2 or 3 up otherwise its too much of an important game to chance / blood anyone.
Hear me out Ed: After all we're in a very difficult position, in the relegation zone with the derby next.
A win is paramount tomorrow, if we are in the relagation zone after tomorrow we'll have to stew there for 2 weeks then have the joys of gettin slagged by the bitters. "Going down going down, going down" etc etc. That won't help our players confidence / nerves (young or old).
I think experience is whats required tomorrow because Blackpool are going to try to exploit out lack of confidence & lack of Anfield atmosphere these days. If we get a nice 2 or 3 nil win it'll raise spirits big time. We can then relax a little during the International break. Imagine we play Amoo or some other youngster(s), lose, then go to the international break & Torres gets injured again. Then we have the blue noses without Torres in a relegation 6 pointer (cant believe i just wrote those words). We have all season (once safe from relegation) to try Amoo out, i'd even consider giving Sterling a 5 - 10 minute run once we get safe in a few games.
And for me Pacheco should by the end of this season be tried in 8 - 10 consecutive games to see if he can hack it (which i definately think he can once he gets his first goal so the pressure will come off his shoulders) but again i'd rather we are out of danger before this is risked.
Sorry for these essays but finally, i can honestly see positive things for us takeover wise happening soon but the fans need to stay positive. I 100% trust Purslow to do his job, why wouldn't he? He has his professional reputation to uphold & i'm sure he doesn't fancy the idea of death threats after this all ends! The fans need to get behind the team & not worry about anything else! We are just another average club without our world class fans! Fact!
Please guys get behind the boys tomorrow / today at this stage of the night!
The Kop better do your job now! (Sing yer hearts out!)
Dont leave all your singing until the protests post match - that's no good for the team / players / club.
The fans are needed now! Do you not agree Ed?
Come on you reds!
Again sorry about the essay Ed! !
Cheers,
Irish Kev
{Editor's Note: It is too early in the season to be looking at league tables. Recent games have shown that using the experienced players does not work too well. I say freshen it up a bit.}
03 Oct 2010 02:36:30
Bull* *t
Rafa brought us Pepe Reina the best goalkeeper in the world, turned Jamie Carragher into one of the best centre halfs in the world, turned Steven Gerrard into the best centre midfield in the world, brought us Fernando Torres, Luis Garcia, Xabi Alonso, Daniel Agger, Dirk Kuyt etc. Our youth system is ten times stronger. He won the European Cup and the FA Cup. He came that close to winning the Holy Grail two seasons ago that many Man Utd fans thought we should have won it. Yes he made some mistakes and last season was a disaster but I don't agree that he left us worse than he found us. Just rubbish!
Fabian Treezle {ed's note - he did not turn Gerrard into the best midfielder in the world - Gerrard, if anything, has gone backwards under Rafa's stewardship. No longer is he taking games by the scruff of the neck like he did in the past. Rafa got him to slow down and take it easier and play at 60% for an entire match, instead of 100% for 80min then tiring towards the end. I don't see how any sane person can say Gerrard is a better player for this. He has certainly not been the Gerrard that won games singlehandedly for two seasons now. Rafa inherited the best midfielder in the world, not created.}
Fabian,
Like Rafa you're clearly an arrogant numpty!
If you want to see some good arguments about Rafa (pro and against) go back about a week - ten days ago in the archives.
Irish Kev
03 Oct 2010 02:35:17
This is the first time iv posted on here so bare with me. iv got liverpool running through my blood from my father to his and his and so on, your not just born red it runs through your system and at the moment people are dropping them into a leeds please people start panicin, look at tottenham 2 seasons back didn't start getting going till a late november finshed in a europa spot, yes i do agree that this H&G needs sorting fast and the sooner the better but don't blame Roy for the performances hes used to holding back fighting for relagation when he realise he hasnt got them shackles on his legs hes going to hit the blocks fast! a good win on sunday will be just the kick anfield needs to get the fans back behind them which will turn into anfield into the fortress everyone feared to come to! so please please if your at anfield tommorow get the protests with H&G out the way and get behind them and show blackpool why the primier league is the most feared in the world and what a step they have took up from playing the likes of hartlepool and brighton bringing in 2,000 a week with no atmosphere to the most feared group of supporters to sing there heart out and show there heart ache shown but show the love and passion of the club that has always been there when things have looked down in our life i think its time we repay the debt, as it says in the tunnel this is anfield and YOU'LL NEVER WALK ALONE! !
Jay
03 Oct 2010 02:29:59
The rumour that i've heard is that Sheikh Mohammed has bought Liverpool FC and that he will be unveiled to the media early next week. He wants to bring in his own manager though with the likes of Jose Mourinho and Fabio Capello being mentioned. He will also make 1 or 2 Major Signings in January to show how much he cares about the Club.
{Editor's Note: Great news - thanks for sharing.}
Are you believing this Ed?
Or are you just being polite?
Irish Kev
{Editor's Note: I am being polite like the nice guy I am.}
03 Oct 2010 02:28:43
Give a carp if Rafa is a good family man. It makes my blood boil when fellow Liverpool fans acuse the demise of our team all on the shoulders of those 2 American p##nks, but to be fair, rafa spent a lot of money in his time. All we have left that are decent recruits rafa made are Nando & Pepe! I hate the yanks as much as the next fan, but rafa too had a big hand in our decent down the table. I used to take the p*ss out of Newcastle fans because they came across delusional on the greatness of their team, but some of our fans are the same when it comes to rafa
03 Oct 2010 02:26:01
How come Van Der Vaart doesn't take long to adapt to premier league.? And everyone we sign. . there's talk like give them time. . they need to adapt. We just sign leftovers, that's why!
RHIAgreed, second rate players.
Not all but we've had our fair share recently mate haven't we?!
But then again we have to remember we have little or no money. But the £4.5m spent on Poulsen for example seems like a joke.
I don't actually think he's that bad myself just think that Shelvey would have been fine to take up the challenge & we would then have had that much extra to have bought a striker on Aug 31st instead of scrounging around looking for scraps (Carlton Cole) or loans like Gomez (maybe we could have bought Gomez outright if we'd saved that £4.5m? ).
On the Mavinga situation - Ed, the French senior team are poor at the moment & i know Mavinga is very young & a good prospect but if he isn't good enough for their u -21's why do you / others think he deserves a starting run tomorrow when potentially he could be good but could also freeze & lose all confidence & i really feel tomorrows game is for experience as we really need a win & i expect the crowd to get on our backs if things arent goin well. My team for what its worth tomorrow would be:
Reina, Johnson(rb), Skrtel (cb), Kyrgiakos (cb), Carragher(lb)
Maxi (rm), Meireles (cm), Gerrard (acm), Cole (lm), Kuyt (st), Torres (st).
Think we should just go all out attack - Holloway said they're coming to attack so we should match fire with fire i reckon?!
Ed?
Irish Kev
{Editor's Note: Today is a good opportunity for us to blood some youngsters. I would like to see Amoo given 30 minutes.}
03 Oct 2010 02:11:54
The rumour that i've heard is that Sheikh Mohammed has bought Liverpool FC and that he will be unveiled to the media early next week. He wants to bring in his own manager though with the likes of Jose Mourinho and Fabio Capello being mentioned. He will also make 1 or 2 Major Signings in January to show how much he cares about the Club.
{Editor's Note: Great news - thanks for sharing.}
03 Oct 2010 02:05:28
How come players, these good looking guys turn in to a mess once they become football managers. As players they would be all muscle and cheekbones, a couple of seasons later and they are a mess. over weight, tried eyes.
is their too much on the plate for english managers? is it bad for the health.
Think you're on the wrong site mate,
Rumbandits is moved its web address :)
03 Oct 2010 02:00:46
Are bookies taking bets on Hicks to stay?
03 Oct 2010 01:33:11
Les Parry is doing a good job and long may it continue but, I suppose Rafa could take the Tranmere job sometime in the future as he still has a house nearby.
03 Oct 2010 01:25:45
Van Der Vaart had a really bad time at real-madrid, so coming to london, has given the player nre start
03 Oct 2010 01:11:50
How come Van Der Vaart doesn't take long to adapt to premier league. ? And everyone we sign. . there's talk like give them time. . they need to adapt. We just sign leftovers, that's why!
RHI
03 Oct 2010 00:31:45
How come players, these good looking guys turn in to a mess once they become football managers. As players they would be all muscle and cheekbones, a couple of seasons later and they are a mess. over weight, tried eyes.
is their too much on the plate for english managers? is it bad for the health.
03 Oct 2010 00:28:30
Why don't lfc give Paulo Sousa a job as coach, n media man. He would do well with his good looks. The fans wouldn't care about the result.
03 Oct 2010 00:20:57
I use to see arial views of Gerrard. He would speed up and turn into a hurricane and start chasing 3 players down and with tackles. This was why he so good, but so bad for beni. he would leave his position to chase the ball. Now that he has slowed down, he no longer does this. It may be beni + injuries, but we will never see the real Gerrard again.