Liverpool Banter Archive September 03 2010

 

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03 Sep 2010 23:39:52
I noticed some fans didn't know about our boycot of The Sun newspaper and were asking why?. . . .Here's why!

On the Wednesday following the Hillsborogh disaster, Kelvin MacKenzie, then editor of The Sun, a British tabloid newspaper with national distribution owned by Rupert Murdoch, used the front page headline 'THE TRUTH' , with three sub-headlines: 'Some fans picked pockets of victims' , 'Some fans urinated on the brave cops' and 'Some fans beat up PC giving kiss of life'.


The story accompanying these headlines claimed that 'drunken Liverpool fans viciously attacked rescue workers as they tried to revive victims' and 'police officers, firemen and ambulance crew were punched, kicked and urinated upon' . A quotation, attributed to an unnamed policeman, claimed a dead girl had been 'abused', and that Liverpool fans were 'openly urinating on us and the bodies of the dead'. These allegations contradicted the reported behaviour of many Liverpool fans, who actively helped the security personnel to stretcher away a large number of victims and gave first aid to many injured.[citation needed]

In their history of The Sun, Peter Chippendale and Chris Horrie wrote:

'As MacKenzie's layout was seen by more and more people, a collective shudder ran through the office (but) MacKenzie's dominance was so total there was nobody left in the organisation who could rein him in except Murdoch. (Everyone in the office) seemed paralysed - "looking like rabbits in the headlights" - as one hack described them. The error staring them in the face was too glaring. It obviously wasn't a silly mistake; nor was it a simple oversight. Nobody really had any comment on it—they just took one look and went away shaking their heads in wonder at the enormity of it. It was a 'classic smear'.'

. . I can't forget and I will never forgive! Anyone that works for The Sun is evil, anyone that buys it is aiding evil doers.

PLEASE DO THE WORLD A FAVOUR AND NEVER BUY THE SUN OR THE NEWS OF THE WORLD.

 

 

 

 

03 Sep 2010 23:38:55
To these fellow fans
03 Sep 2010 19:06:23
Liverpool Rumours
"Poulsen and Meireles are good all round defensive midfielders and they are experinced campaigners.
The back 4 are solid and in an attacking sense, Johnson can provide counter attacking options with the pressence of Meireles and Gerrard in midfield."

I thought meireles was more attacking than defending. correct me if im wrong its just ive seen him play a few times and he was more attacking

your spot on mate^
meireles is more of a alonso/ aquaman replacement than a mascherano replacement, he will probably be the link between gerrard and poulson, kinda like alonso was with gerrard and mascherano.


i have also been reading the posts about free agents, and i would like to comment of each of these

Ilsinho - great player, would solve the right wing problem, BUT has signed for shaktar :(

Ausslin - i think he would be a great prospect

Francois Clerc - would provide good cover for johnson, or even play johnson rw and play clerc right back, but their is one problem, he has a horrendous injury record worse than degen's and aureilo's

i would have said aislan a 6 ft 4 center back to replace the greek, but he signed for Guarani i think?

Dan :)

 

 

 

 

03 Sep 2010 23:19:38
Spain scorers:

Torres (2)
Villa
Silva

Spriggo

 

 

03 Sep 2010 23:18:55

03 Sep 2010 22:19:10

Hey Ed.
What do you think of maybe playing Babel on the right? I have always wondered why rafa put him out on the left because he always has to cut inside and cannot get to the line to put a good cross in. He is a very one footed player and while messi and robin are examples of one footed players that can cut in all the time, I think it is safe to say that he is not quite that calibre of player. However, I feel he could be very effective on the right like how Walcott is used.
Thoughts {ed's note - I can see your thinking, I don't think Babel can cross though can he?}

yeah i think he can didn't he assest torres with two crosses from the right when he sometimes played their over the years {ed's note - I can't remember him ever producing a decent cross, but I will take your word for it.}

 

 

 

 

03 Sep 2010 23:13:44

The idea of baros as team player is ludicrous.

Remember this?

Baros av a fookin look ya tool!

Every time he ran down a dead end with the ball

 

 

 

 

03 Sep 2010 23:08:37
I think ed is ignoring me!but never mind can anyone tell me who scored for spain i know torres did but who else? someone please reply

ROUND ROBBEN

Torres got 2, Villa and Silva got one each. 4-0 to Spain.

Kuyt scored for Holland and big Sami Hyypia got sent off for Finland.

Long live big SAMI!

Blair Mayne YNWA

 

 

 

 

03 Sep 2010 23:02:40
Kuyt scored, torres scored 2, and meireles scored in tonights euro 2012 qualifiers, anyway i can't wait for our new signings to gel together as a unit so they can play well together, but if you look at it our most likeley team will be
- - - - - - - - - - -REINA- - - - - - - - - - - -

- JOHNSON- - -AGGER- - - -CARRA- - - KONCHA-

- - - - - - - - POULSEN- -MEIRELES- - - - - - -

- KUYT- - - - - - GERRARD- - - - - - - COLE- -

- - - - - - - - - - - TORRES- - - - - - - - - - -

This is the same formation that almost won us the title in 09 except afew changes:
Johnson for Arbeloa(johnson better)
Koncheskey for Aurelio(koncheskey better)
Cole for riera(cole better)
meireles for alonso(alonso better)
poulsen for masch(masch better)
So i think we will be 3rd

that's all for 2nite from me folks

ROUND ROBBEN

 

 

 

 

03 Sep 2010 22:53:38

I think ed is ignoring me!but never mind can anyone tell me who scored for spain i know torres did but who else? someone please reply

ROUND ROBBEN

{EDITOR'S NOTE: I am not ignoring you mate}

 

 

03 Sep 2010 22:51:08

Liverpool should buy gareth bale next summer when takeover is complete! going 2 be a big big player in years to come. great left winger for the future and if needed can cover left back. Clubs will be looking at him so i say LFC should make him top of the list next summer!
YNWA

 

 

03 Sep 2010 22:50:45
03 Sep 2010 22:29:14
Liverpool Rumours
Michael Owen carried the liverpool team in the early 2000's, if it wasn't for him, Liverpool would have been in a lot worse a position, as Fowler was constantly injured and Heskey wasn't prolific enough. Okay he left under a bad storm, but christ, Robbie left for Leeds, (at the time a bloody rival), whereas Owen left for what looked like, on paper, a team at the time that was more likley to attract success. The only way I really remember this now, is watching LFC TV and it brings back some memories, most of them not so good, (I can't believe for a season or two, Babb and Staunton were our centre Halves and a bad Brad Friedel in Goal).

difference was owen ran his contract down untill we had little option but to sell him for a pittance, whereas robbie was sold against his will by tommo and houllier.
owen will never be welcome back at anfield after joining the red sh*te in manchester.

 

 

 

 

03 Sep 2010 22:48:59

Owen was only ever in it for Owen.

I knew a fella quite well who worked with Owen at Newcastle. The word mercenary was mentioned quite a lot. Also, it was commented on that he was like Lazareth when an England match was on the horizon.

I once met him at Dublin airport in August 98 after a pre-season tournament, and he did not come across as a nice fella at all, neither did Ince. (Berger was very friendly).

Owen is a player that held the club to ransom (like McManaman) and he Won, but then missed out the greatest club night for 21 years! If Owen had any loyality he would have looked at rafa coming in, and thought that this was a great opportunity for the club.

As for the club having no money at the time. We bought Alonso (10.5 mill), Reina (6), Garcia (6) Cisse (Gerard's £14 mil spend), and Josemi (2).

Could have been truly great! Rafa once said you don't sell a car for £8k one year and buy it back for £16k the next!

Dirks Engine Room

 

 

03 Sep 2010 22:48:01
I to agree that paco ayestaren was a fantastic assitant manger and he always smiled it was hard to feel down in his presence, he had good methods and i was annoyed when he was fired!ed do you paco was great?

ROUND ROBBEN

 

 

 

 

03 Sep 2010 22:38:31
Hello, I do not claim to be in the know, but there is speculation in the Arab Emirates that Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum has launched another takeover bid for Liverpool Football Club."

I happen to live in Dubai and be a liverppol fan for life. Are you aware that Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum is the RULER of Dubai, It would be extremely great if he did buy LFC because he has UNLIMITED money, more than the Man C owner, but he wont. It's like the Queen trying to buy Man U, It just won't happen. Sorry

IF that's the case then why did Sheikh Mohammed try to buy us twice before? And he could probably get us a lot cheaper this time as it's believed his 2nd bid was 500 mill.

Blair Mayne YNWA

 

 

 

 

03 Sep 2010 22:37:15

Many moons ago . when we were still a team worth the world cup commitee decided were worth visiting. they came to the academy . the helicopters landed near the pitches were a coach took them to the building(100 yds away). No girls ever played at the academy but to impress LFC decided to bring in some young football girls about 13 yr olds. they were buzzing and after everything was done. players present aswell. the girls waited for autographs. .after a while Owen ran past not stoppin and got in his car and sped off. girls shoutin(not nterested). couple of mins later Fowler an redknapp came out and spent at least 10 minutes till all was signed. great lads. when you see this and i know its a 1 off. but it sticks with you. . .SMF

 

 

 

 

03 Sep 2010 22:37:12

Re- Sammy Lee. Maybe not the best coach in the world, I was a little disappointed when he was brought in.
Personally I was disgruntled when Paco Ayesteran left, from a few things I read, all the players liked him and his methods, and I thought it no coincidence that when he did leave the team struggled for a month or so, after they had been playing some really good football (heard it was down to Rafa not liking the fact Paco had a laugh with Mourinho one day amongst other reasons, depsite the fact they'd been friends and colleagues since their time at Tenerife (Rafa and Paco that is)).

Anyway it is obvious anyone is going to struggle to acheive what we fans expect whilst dumb and dumber have their mits on the club. I think Roy Hodgson was a good shout for manager at this time, and lets see how he does under the circumstances. I think the signings he's made were about the best options open to him. (cole and merieles should prove good signings and konchesky should be able to do a reasonable job, this may be a chance for some of the youngsters to be forced into action and come good)

 

 

 

 

03 Sep 2010 22:36:44
What should be the lfc first XI:

- - - - - - - - - - - reina- - - - - - - - - - - -
- johnson- -carragher- - - agger- - - konchesky-
- - - - - - - - poulson- -meireles- - - - - - - - -
- - - cole- - - - - -gerrard- - - - - - -maxi- - -
- - - - - - - - - - -torres- - - - - - - - - - - -
YM

 

 

03 Sep 2010 22:36:33
Good to see Kuyt on the scoresheet tonight for the Netherlands!Jonared

 

 

 

 

03 Sep 2010 22:30:16
Is there an award for most posts by one person in a day? Round Robben!

The Irish Rover

why thank you mr.irish rover i shall accept this prestigous award (applause)

ROUND ROBBEN

 

 

 

 

03 Sep 2010 22:27:01
I knew a fella quite well who worked with Owen at Newcastle. The word mercenary was mentioned quite a lot. Also, it was commented on that he was like Lazareth when an England match was on the horizon.

I once met him at Dublin airport in August 98 after a pre-season tournament, and he did not come across as a nice fella at all, neither did Ince. (Berger was very friendly).

Owen is a player that held the club to ransom. and Won, but then missed out the greatest club night for 21 years!

Could have been truly great! Rafa once said you don't sell a car for £8k one year and buy it back for £16k the next!

Dirks Engine Room

 

 

 

 

03 Sep 2010 22:24:05
Is there an award for most posts by one person in a day? Round Robben!

The Irish Rover

 

 

 

 

03 Sep 2010 22:20:17
When are we guna make our number 7 shirt famous again? Who would be a realistic candidate? Is it a matter of finding someone to wear the number or finding someone who deserves the number?
Luis suarez anyday.and then sanchez no.11
oops i said suarez 7 then sanchez 7 aswell but i meant 11

ROUND ROBBEN

 

 

03 Sep 2010 22:19:10

Hey Ed.
What do you think of maybe playing Babel on the right? I have always wondered why rafa put him out on the left because he always has to cut inside and cannot get to the line to put a good cross in. He is a very one footed player and while messi and robin are examples of one footed players that can cut in all the time, I think it is safe to say that he is not quite that calibre of player. However, I feel he could be very effective on the right like how Walcott is used.
Thoughts {ed's note - I can see your thinking, I don't think Babel can cross though can he?}

 

 

 

 

03 Sep 2010 22:14:29
When are we guna make our number 7 shirt famous again? Who would be a realistic candidate? Is it a matter of finding someone to wear the number or finding someone who deserves the number?
Luis suarez anyday.and then sanchez no.7

ROUND ROBBEN

 

 

 

 

03 Sep 2010 22:09:14
"Hello, I do not claim to be in the know, but there is speculation in the Arab Emirates that Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum has launched another takeover bid for Liverpool Football Club."

I happen to live in Dubai and be a liverppol fan for life. Are you aware that Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum is the RULER of Dubai, It would be extremely great if he did buy LFC because he has UNLIMITED money, more than the Man C owner, but he wont. It's like the Queen trying to buy Man U, It just won't happen. Sorry

 

 

03 Sep 2010 22:08:18
{ed's note - have you never been told about the lies they printed after the Hillsborough disaster?}

i knew you meant that about hillsborough but what did you mean about time of day?
btw you are a proper scouse aren't you i don't read paper the only bit of any paper i like is the rumours, anyway i'm from south wales.

ROUND ROBBEN

 

 

03 Sep 2010 22:07:45
When are we guna make our number 7 shirt famous again? Who would be a realistic candidate? Is it a matter of finding someone to wear the number or finding someone who deserves the number?

 

 

 

 

03 Sep 2010 21:56:20
{ed's note - sun team?}

sorry, sun fantasy football, anyway i have been reading this site since summer 2008 i only recentley started posting, but also only recentley have there been new features like the believable and ubelieveable buttons and editors note are you a new editor (well not new anymore but not been in charge the whole time), but as long as you are a liverpool fan (which i believe you are?) that good.

ROUND ROBBEN {ed's note - I am the original editor, hence why I questioned the sun reference. I was really hoping you had given that dirty scum rag the time of day mate.}

 

 

 

 

03 Sep 2010 21:49:44
03 Sep 2010 21:28:05
Blair Mayne YNWA,
"Torres needs match'es to get match fit so this was surely a perfect game for him to play in and as we seen from the West Brom match he's getting there were i thought his work rate was as good as i've seen it for a few months which includes the World Cup."

Yes but everytime Torres comes back from Spain he is injured. and that is the worry.

I agree i don't like when he goes to play for Spain but this is different. When he goe's to play for Spain he is fit before he goe's but this time he actually needs to play for Spain or if it was LFC who had a game he needs to play like i said match fitness.

Blair YNWA

 

 

03 Sep 2010 21:47:15

Ok raul meireles is TOPPP CLASS!

 

 

 

 

03 Sep 2010 21:36:45
Well it's been found to be true - the ED who is a so called Liverpool fan, is'nt after all - he is ignorant to the facts - like a lot of Kopites i sat with - Michael OWEN left Liverpool, after scoring 158 goals in 279 games, an incredible record, because PARRY sold him behind his back, fact REAL MADRID where told he was available, without his knowledge, and any professional footballer , when he found out a club doesn't want him would leave - the name ALONSO springs to mind. So when OWEN turns up tomorrow, cheer him for what he did for Liverpool, not what the ignoramus's think he did wrong. {ed's note - utter and complete lies! Rafa practically begged him to stay but he wanted to leave. You are talking complete rubbish, he had already informed Parry that he would not be signing a new contract, that is why he was sold to Madrid before he ran down his contract and left on a free. He forced his way out and it has been a disaster for him, couldn't happen to a nicer chap.}

 

 

 

 

03 Sep 2010 21:34:01
Torres scores that's 2 in 2 hopefully this will start a trend for our number 9.after all . .we bought the lad from sunny spain he gets the ball and scores again. .
FERNANDO TORRES LIVERPOOLS NUMBER 9

ROUND ROBBEN

 

 

 

 

03 Sep 2010 21:28:05
Blair Mayne YNWA,
"Torres needs match'es to get match fit so this was surely a perfect game for him to play in and as we seen from the West Brom match he's getting there were i thought his work rate was as good as i've seen it for a few months which includes the World Cup."

Yes but everytime Torres comes back from Spain he is injured. and that is the worry.

 

 

 

 

03 Sep 2010 21:06:55
LFC FOR LIFE you call rafa a fat spanish waiter you should hang your head in shame giving abuse to our ex manager who never gave less than 1OO % for our club. whether you think rafa did a good jop or not you should be fair you say the core of the teams good then you slag rafa of for wasting money. 5 wingers over 5 years mounts up to 25 mll not when you havnt had all that at once rafa earned most of the money he spend by doing well in the champions league FACT. rafa had to sell bellamy to pay for torres so your saying he should have kept bellamy instead of buying torres?. lets give rafa the respect he deserves .soul man.

 

 

 

 

03 Sep 2010 21:02:09

03 Sep 2010 20:38:59

Looks like Roy lost. Torres is playing for Spain tonight, and he's scored.

I don't know what Roy was talking about with Torres!

Torres needs match'es to get match fit so this was surely a perfect game for him to play in and as we seen from the West Brom match he's getting there were i thought his work rate was as good as i've seen it for a few months which includes the World Cup.

Blair Mayne YNWA

 

 

 

 

03 Sep 2010 20:51:37
03 Sep 2010 19:21:23
SHEIKH COMPLETES ANFIELD TAKEOVER
Mohammed bin Rashid al Maktoum, also known as Sheikh Mohammed, has taken over Liverpool. Prime Minister of the United Arab Emirates, the Sheikh has bought out co-chairmen Tom Hicks and George Gillet, who took over in early 2007. It is believed that he paid £550 million to buy the club, and is looking to get a new manager in, after Rafael Benitez failed to deliver Champions League football, or a trophy, in the 2009/ 10 season.

In a move not dissimilar to the takeovers at Chelsea and Manchester City, Liverpool's new manager could be given a transfer war chest of nearly £250 million as Sheikh Mohammed looks to deliver trophies to Anfield immediately. The takeover could also see Liverpool's plans for a new stadium come to fruition, after doubts that the American co-chairmen were able to fund the plans for Stanley Park.

The media have already started linking Liverpool with a whole host of world class players, including Valencia duo David Silva and David Villa, but it will all depend on who becomes the manager of Liverpool, a position that is now one of the most attractive in world football. The papers have already speculated that Jose Mourinho is on the Sheikh's list for the hot-seat, with Guus Hiddink not far behind. He refused to reveal who was on his managerial shortlist, but that hasn't stopped the rumours flying.

Richard Pedder, of Liverpool FC's Supporters' Club, had this to say. "It's a great day for the club – to finally be out of the control of Hicks and Gillet. The future looks bright for us, and hopefully with some new acquisitions we'll be back in the Champions League in no time." I FOUND THIS ON A WEB SITE IS THIS TRUE? YNWA

I think this could have been said in June/ July as Villa is now at Barcelona and Silva is at Man.City and we have RH as manager.

Blair Mayne YNWA

 

 

 

 

03 Sep 2010 20:38:59

Looks like Roy lost. Torres is playing for Spain tonight, and he's scored.

 

 

 

 

03 Sep 2010 20:09:09

AT LAST. . . . . . A PROPER ENGLAND KIT! SMF

 

 

 

 

03 Sep 2010 19:55:34
Thanks for not answering my question about mansour family? {ed's note - sorry mate, I thought you were just saying hi then directing a general question to anyone who reads the site. I don't know for certain who is bidding for Liverpool, the newspapers will make wild guesses and pretend to have knowledge, but I prefer to just admit I don't know, so I can't shed any definite light on it. All I know is that there are bidders, that is as far as my info stretches and I think that is common knowledge anyway. Sorry mate.}

 

 

 

 

03 Sep 2010 19:50:41

Hi ed. was looking online and found a website saying that the mansour family (man citys owners) are considering buying liverpool f.c. it says that the premiership chiefs are considering blocking the sale. can u shed any light on this. is it bull or not.

 

 

 

 

03 Sep 2010 19:47:06
"Poulsen and Meireles are good all round defensive midfielders and they are experinced campaigners.
The back 4 are solid and in an attacking sense, Johnson can provide counter attacking options with the pressence of Meireles and Gerrard in midfield."

I thought meireles was more attacking than defending. correct me if im wrong its just ive seen him play a few times and he was more attacking

hes a box to box midfielder mate can defend and attack

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

03 Sep 2010 19:41:47
- - - - - - - -Reina- - - - - - - - -

- Johnson- Carra- Agger- Konchesky-

- - - - - - -Poulsen- - - - - - -

- - -Cole- - - - - - - -Meireles- -

- - - - - - -Gerrard - - - - - - -

- - - -Torres- - - - -Babel - - - -

This is the way LFC should be playing diamond solid and effective.it is all about winning! !

 

 

 

 

03 Sep 2010 19:29:30
Just to clear up the Meireles thing. Meireles is supposedly a replacement for the void by Alonso. Remember that Alonso was our passer and our attacking defensive midfielder, so I think Meireles will be brilliant filling in the gap and link up the play well with Gerrard in the middle.

Squad -

Reina

Johnson- -Agger- -Carra- Konchesky
- - - - Poulson- - - Meireles- - - -
Kuyt- - - - - -Gerrard- - - - -Cole
- - - - - - - -Torres- - - - - - - - -

 

 

 

 

03 Sep 2010 19:21:23
SHEIKH COMPLETES ANFIELD TAKEOVER
Mohammed bin Rashid al Maktoum, also known as Sheikh Mohammed, has taken over Liverpool. Prime Minister of the United Arab Emirates, the Sheikh has bought out co-chairmen Tom Hicks and George Gillet, who took over in early 2007. It is believed that he paid £550 million to buy the club, and is looking to get a new manager in, after Rafael Benitez failed to deliver Champions League football, or a trophy, in the 2009/ 10 season.

In a move not dissimilar to the takeovers at Chelsea and Manchester City, Liverpool's new manager could be given a transfer war chest of nearly £250 million as Sheikh Mohammed looks to deliver trophies to Anfield immediately. The takeover could also see Liverpool's plans for a new stadium come to fruition, after doubts that the American co-chairmen were able to fund the plans for Stanley Park.

The media have already started linking Liverpool with a whole host of world class players, including Valencia duo David Silva and David Villa, but it will all depend on who becomes the manager of Liverpool, a position that is now one of the most attractive in world football. The papers have already speculated that Jose Mourinho is on the Sheikh's list for the hot-seat, with Guus Hiddink not far behind. He refused to reveal who was on his managerial shortlist, but that hasn't stopped the rumours flying.

Richard Pedder, of Liverpool FC's Supporters' Club, had this to say. "It's a great day for the club – to finally be out of the control of Hicks and Gillet. The future looks bright for us, and hopefully with some new acquisitions we'll be back in the Champions League in no time." I FOUND THIS ON A WEB SITE IS THIS TRUE? YNWA

 

 

 

 

03 Sep 2010 19:20:05

Possible 1st XI

- - - - - - - -Reina- - - - - - - - -
-Johnson- Carra- -Skrtle- -Konchesky-
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
- - - - - - - Poulson- - - - - - - - -
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
- - - - meireles- - - Gerrard- - - - -
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
- Cole- - - - - - - - Jovanovic/ Babel-
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
- - - - - - - -Torres- - - - - - - - -

 

 

 

 

03 Sep 2010 19:00:53
03 Sep 2010 18:47:30
Tha Carra testimonial is on LFC.tv channel on Virgin or Sky. Or you could even try the website myp2p.eu

Just wonderin if anyones arsed about England tonight? Coz I'm f*ckin not.

Spriggo

Nice 1 Spriggo.

Blair Mayne YNWA

 

 

 

 

03 Sep 2010 18:58:33

In relation to the poster who listed the squad as worthy of 3rd place and with the subsequent suggested amends, I hope you're right.

But the squad depth problem from last season remains the issue.

I can't believe that we'll have an injury crisis same as last season but there remain b ig gaps.

Defence looks better covered with kelly looking like he might get the odd senior game.

Defensive/ central mid looks shaky. Presume lucas or spearing will cover for poulsen with lucas or gerrard being alternatives to meireles (hopefully he'll settle quickly, we're a tough side to join)

The attacking mid three is ok - with a couple of options in each position and jovo and maxi perhaps providing some real width (but seriously we've 5 players covering 3 positions with pacheco, babel and shelvey perhaps providing further cover

As has been discussed elsewhere, we lack fwd cover. Ngog offers insufficient variation from torres without the finishing prowess (yet) and like many I remain to be convinced about exactly what babel offers in this position but here's hoping.

So all well and good for 4-2-3-1 and its variants whilst the key players remain fit but as the man c game showed we don't look convincing on 4-4-2 and until we have a "plan B" striker (such as an aerial target man - which would also serve to bring kuyt into play as another fill-in striker)

(And 4-2-3-1 looks good against man u's version of 4-4-2)

And we do have some great youngsters but RH has been culling the young 'uns and bringing in experience. What I don't have a sense of is who the best bet for this crucual striker is. Yes, unlimited budget its easy to pick out half a dozen names but if that's not available by Jan, who should we go for?

Dawkins

 

 

 

 

03 Sep 2010 18:55:25
Hi ed can you plz post this as im gettin a little annoyed with a few people on hear! i read this forum every day and love to buy into and dream about sum of the things people claim to no about. . who is coming in, and who is buying the club etc. let me just say i hate H&G as much as any body, but people saying we are going backwards and we can't compete till we get new owners, sound like a certain fat waiter. fact is benitez spent millions upon millions during his time in charge, and how many of the player wud you consider to have been sucessfull? not many! how much money has been wasted the last 5 years.the problem was never having money it was never knowing how to spend it, take the left wing 4 example, how manyplayers have been brought in to play that position 4 5, ive lost count, 5m average each time, and we still don't have one! 20- 25m wasted! strikers, crouch, bellamy, keane , voronin kuyt ( now plays on the wing becuz he didn't score) all a waste of money or never given a chance to settle in! my point is if you were hicks or gillette. . wud you have given him any more money? as for this summer according to news paper we were the fourth biggest spenders during the summer, . . regardless of who we sold, get real people the clud is for sale, so h&g we never going to dip in to there own pockets. as for sumone who said selling mascherano was a step back. . . he wanted to go and refused to play, he was replaced within hours! look at the core of first team, its as good as any one in the prem. there was never any money this summer and woy wud have known this, no lies have been told, no going back on promises only the cold hard truth. . . the club is for sale, so you can only spend what you sell, which is what has been done! woy has played it safe with his signings, taking no risks, no gambles. becuz that at this moment in time is wot lfc needs. no more 20m flops, becuz that's why the squad looks the way it does. a top 4 finish was almost a given over the last few years, but now with man city and spurs its a big 6 not a big 4, those days have gone. give roy a chance, judge him at the end of the season, not the start. theres still 105 points to play for!

lfc 4 life! !

 

 

 

 

03 Sep 2010 18:51:12
In relation to the poster who listed the squad as worthy of 3rd place and with the subsequent suggested amends, I hope you're right.

But the squad depth problem from last season remains the issue.

I can't believe that we'll have an injury crisis same as last season but there remain b ig gaps.

Defence looks better covered with kelly looking like he might get the odd senior game.

Defensive/ central mid looks shaky. Presume lucas or spearing will cover for poulsen with lucas or gerrard being alternatives to meireles (hopefully he'll settle quickly, we're a tough side to join)

The attacking mid three is ok - with a couple of options in each position and jovo and maxi perhaps providing some real width (but seriously we've 5 players covering 3 positions with pacheco, babel and shelvey perhaps providing further cover

As has been discussed elsewhere, we lack fwd cover. Ngog offers insufficient variation from torres without the finishing prowess (yet) and like many I remain to be convinced about exactly what babel offers in this position but here's hoping.

So all well and good for 4-2-3-1 and its variants whilst the key players remain fit but as the man c game showed we don't look convincing on 4-4-2 and until we have a "plan B" striker (such as an aerial target man - which would also serve to bring kuyt into play as another fill-in striker)

(And 4-2-3-1 looks good against man u's version of 4-4-2)

And we do have some great youngsters but RH has been culling the young 'uns and bringing in experience. What I don't have a sense of is who the best bet for this crucual striker is. Yes, unlimited budget its easy to pick out half a dozen names but if that's not available by Jan, who should we go for?

Dawkins

 

 

 

 

03 Sep 2010 18:47:30
Tha Carra testimonial is on LFC.tv channel on Virgin or Sky. Or you could even try the website myp2p.eu

Just wonderin if anyones arsed about England tonight? Coz I'm f*ckin not.

Spriggo

 

 

03 Sep 2010 18:46:25

To Roy who wrote this:

"(My gut feeling: Sami Lee is this reason)"

Now really this is a bit much. Are you really blaming Sammy Lee for last season's farce?

Complete nonsense.

Rormac

CAN I JUST ADD THAT IN FAVOUR OF SAMMY LEE. TWO SEASONS AGO WHEN WE BEAT NEWCASTLE UNITED 6-0. THIS WAS ARGUABLY OUR BEST RESULT OF THE SEASON AND HE WAS THE ONE INCHARGE AS RAFA WAS IN HOSPITAL FOR KIDNEY STONES

 

 

 

 

03 Sep 2010 18:31:17

Febian Brandy and Jermaine Alliadiare are both available on a free

 

 

 

 

03 Sep 2010 18:23:49
I know we were going for Mario Gomez but I don't see why didn't go for Miroslav Klose. He would be a brilliant partner for Torres

 

 

 

 

03 Sep 2010 18:16:39
Can anyone tell me if the Carragher Testimonial is on live tomorrow? I havn't seen it advertised.

Blair Mayne YNWA

 

 

 

 

03 Sep 2010 18:10:39

O.k, some of you called me melodramatic, n this guy says im negative. .

At he end of the day we have never won the premiership, is that positive? you clowns don't mind our club being run into the ground that's up to you.

See how you feel if we finish this season with no trophies and no new owner(s)

i want to win, liverpool f.c was built on the back of success, at the end of the day im a kopite and i have an opinion because i pay my hard earned money to go to games. This situation wouldn't have been good enough for shanks n paisley so its not good enough for me.

YNWAMascherano is the best holding midfielder in the game and he is young, anyone who thinks that him leaving us is a step forward doesn't know anything about the game, masch said himself, there were promises made to him by the club which did not materialise, i dare say that benitez encountered the same thing!?! at the end of the day, we have owners who have lied to the fans and by all accounts the players too! if the yanks do don't go by january it will take our club years to recover.

Dude you need to seriously get over Masch he wasnt going to stay anyway listen to what he said the PROMISES were that they would SELL him, and from what i can see they kept that promise! Im sick of the same old rubbish now, we didn't buy good enough, we are doomed blah blah blah, the club will be sold Keith Harris as an example said someone had already done DD if that's the case im sure there will be more then one!

Support the team and quit b*tching about the Yanks they will be gone soon enough! and we have what we have until Jan now so going on about it isn't going to change a thing! I would support my beloved Liverpool even if we got relegated. So if you are just going to be negative about the club why bother saying anything at all!

LFC420 - FED UP WITH NEGATIVE SUPPORTERS!

 

 

 

 

03 Sep 2010 18:00:05
Ed, can you advise when exactly the emergency loan window opens next week, and when it closes?

Any chance Liverpool might be looking at any players on loan (e.g. Mario Gomez)?

 

 

 

 

03 Sep 2010 17:58:01
"Konchesky is an intelligent right back along with being a good athlete."

Surely you mean left back !

 

 

 

 

03 Sep 2010 17:48:00
Mascherano is the best holding midfielder in the game and he is young, anyone who thinks that him leaving us is a step forward doesn't know anything about the game, masch said himself, there were promises made to him by the club which did not materialise, i dare say that benitez encountered the same thing!?! at the end of the day, we have owners who have lied to the fans and by all accounts the players too! if the yanks do don't go by january it will take our club years to recover.

Stop being so melodramatic. Mascherano is good at breaking down attacks, but I've never seen anything from him that would suggest he's better than Alonso, Cambiasso, Busquets, De Rossi. He's a younger version of Mark Van Bommel in my opinion.
Rafa was an decent manager, nothing special. He made some great signings, and a lot of very bad signings. Last season he had money to spend, and squandered it on an injured player and a handful of mediocre players, which is why our squad is how it is now.
Nobody knows anything about the takeover, but I'd expect it to be done by January.

 

 

03 Sep 2010 17:47:58
Club first
sounds like it should be get a brain first.
another so called reds fan who slags rafa of i despair sometimes at reds fans who moan i bet there the first ones who cry because they can't get tickets for istanbul / athens or other games. torres/ alonso/ garcia/ pepe/ agger/ benny/ masch/ arbeloa/ johnson/ pacheco/ crouch/ skirtle/ kuyt/ maxi. that's with the cowboys in charge and not haveing much money and what money hes had hes generated himself through the champions league.
soul man.

 

 

 

 

03 Sep 2010 17:28:36
Watch this space on the takeover - Prince Al Waleed Bin Talal Al Saud by early October.

 

 

 

 

03 Sep 2010 17:13:00
To whoever said about the Genk Youngster, pretty sure if we were interested in one of there players we could get them don't forget we made a agreement with them about players that if we couldn't get permits they could take them and mature them or use our youngstars at there clubs at loans. . so I couldn't see if interest of selling was there we wouldn't be first choice.

Check it out Ed, I'm not lying.

 

 

 

 

03 Sep 2010 16:48:29

Uefa cup team and northampton team in my opinion should be

jones

darby wilson carragher kelly

babel shelvey lucas jovanovic

pacheco ngog

subs:reina , kyriakos , poulsen , ngoo , aurelio , maxi , kuyt

what do you guys reckon? any opinions ed?

 

 

 

 

03 Sep 2010 16:17:51
Broken promises, you shower of woosses, ye'all sound like a bunch of teenage girls that have been ditched. Benitez had plenty of money, plenty of it & he squandered it again like a teenage girl on outfits with her daddy's credit card the she doesn't really want and hasn't decided to wear yet. Mascharno again like a little girl with his broken promises - what planet is he on. It will take at least another season to rid the club of the crap that he brought here.
Clubfirst.com

 

 

 

 

03 Sep 2010 14:53:32

"We are not a top four club and have not been one in reality, for a number of seasons, despite clinging on. I wrote on Thursday that we are an average club with a massive history. I fear that is our future and I can't see past fourth place anymore!"

* * Sounds like you can't see past your arse, glass half full is it old chap. How do you sleep at night?* * Start supporting the team that's what fans do!

 

 

03 Sep 2010 14:53:11
To the person who ended their post with:
Just posted:
"We are not a top four club and have not been one in reality, for a number of seasons, despite clinging on. I wrote on Thursday that we are an average club with a massive history. I fear that is our future and I can't see past fourth place anymore!"


I do not agree with that, 2 years ago we finished 2nd with 86 points which could 've won the PL in 11 out of the 20 seasons since its started .
Last year something wrong happened, not sure what its , can't be just loosing Alonso , I am sure there is an underlining reason for all the players loss of form, and its Roy's job to find what is this reason. . .

Sorry - we didn't win the League at any time in the past 20 seasons and "could've" won't cut the mustard anywhere. We didn't win.
I understand your enthusiasm, but we don't want to spend another 20 years deluding ourselves and thinking we will be back in the big time again.
There are too many outer issues affecting the club to make that happen.

 

 

03 Sep 2010 14:50:34

Mascherano is the best holding midfielder in the game and he is young, anyone who thinks that him leaving us is a step forward doesn't know anything about the game, masch said himself, there were promises made to him by the club which did not materialise, i dare say that benitez encountered the same thing!?! at the end of the day, we have owners who have lied to the fans and by all accounts the players too! if the yanks do don't go by january it will take our club years to recover.

Dude you need to seriously get over Masch he wasnt going to stay anyway listen to what he said the PROMISES were that they would SELL him, and from what i can see they kept that promise! Im sick of the same old rubbish now, we didn't buy good enough, we are doomed blah blah blah, the club will be sold Keith Harris as an example said someone had already done DD if that's the case im sure there will be more then one!

Support the team and quit b*tching about the Yanks they will be gone soon enough! and we have what we have until Jan now so going on about it isn't going to change a thing! I would support my beloved Liverpool even if we got relegated. So if you are just going to be negative about the club why bother saying anything at all!

LFC420 - FED UP WITH NEGATIVE SUPPORTERS!

 

 

 

 

03 Sep 2010 14:35:00

Can i just say to the ppl who wrote about the liverpool reserves! take a look at the u19s england game where ngoo and shelvy were playing. shelvy looks like real prospect, don't wana jinks it but the new s* * g* * *, can watch highlights on line!
if s g teaches him everything he knows he can fill his boots, agree with spearing, doesn't cut it for me! ]
there are positives from out reserves!
bill sos

 

 

 

 

03 Sep 2010 14:24:03
To the person who ended their post with:
"We are not a top four club and have not been one in reality, for a number of seasons, despite clinging on. I wrote on Thursday that we are an average club with a massive history. I fear that is our future and I can't see past fourth place anymore!"


I do not agree with that, 2 years ago we finished 2nd with 86 points which could 've won the PL in 11 out of the 20 seasons since its started .
Last year something wrong happened, not sure what its , can't be just loosing Alonso , I am sure there is an underlining reason for all the players loss of form, and its Roy's job to find what is this reason.
(My gut feeling: Sami Lee is this reason)

Roy

 

 

 

 

03 Sep 2010 13:32:15
In reply to Ed.

BOB Loblaw {ed's note - have you not seen Aliadiere play recently? He is poor at CCC level, he is never going to make it at Prem level.}

I havent seen him play for a while mate so im gonna take your word on it. Which fits in nicely with my speculative theory of Roy not wanting to sign Duds in front of new owners.

Bob Loblaw {ed's note - I hope you are right.}

 

 

 

 

03 Sep 2010 13:17:17
I no it might not of worked but we still cud of got about 5 mill for him we should of got kris boyd he can finsh wen he has a chance wat we need

 

 

 

 

03 Sep 2010 13:09:10
Firstly, ed great site. im on it all the time.
secondly, gai assulin seems to be a very strong suggestion and i do think he'd want to come to liverpool if we tried to sign him as he is a free agent.
is there any way of letting roy know of what the fans feel? obviously the end decision to swoop for a player would fall on him and the board. but can we sort of, let them know about it in a much more collective way?
in roy we trust.
again, amazing site, keep it up (Y) {Editor's Note..Thanks mate. You could always write to the club. I once wrote to Levy about the disgraceful way he handled Jol's departure. Guess what? Not even an acknowledgment.}

 

 

 

 

03 Sep 2010 12:41:27
Ed if you could only sign either Honda or Sanchez, which one will you choose? {ed's note - Honda, without question. He can play in any outfield position, but he is particularly good in our 3 main weak spots - left back, left midfield/wing and striker.}

 

 

03 Sep 2010 12:36:28
Ok guys enough, you who stated right to deadline day and continue to do so, ohh its aguero signed, mystery takeover already happened but they are keeping it quiet, turan signed blah, blah, blah, either you haven't an original thought in your tiny heads or your fantasists.

The reality is this, a takeover may not even happen by Summer. Any potential investor would prefer the club to totter on the edge of recievership to bring the price as low as possible, this may take 5 months, or even longer. If Roy is granted funds by H and G at xmas window, and this is also unlikely, then the most he will recieve is 10 million and probably only a fraction of that.

I love you guys who make lists of who was sold and bought and calculate the excat figure left to spend, businesses don't run this way, I run a business heres the guiding principles when your debts outstrip your assets are you have two choices, re-finanace, not an option, or use all available capital to pay down as much of the debt as you can to try and remain viable. Liverpool are like a boat with a hole in it, you don't buy a new mast when the hull's leaking. Any money gained will pay down debt, and as hard as it is to hear that's the most sensible thing Liverpool can do. It may take several seasons outside the ECL but surely the long term future of the club means more than instant gratification.

You know it makes sense, now if one of you could tell me if we are getting messi or hulk in the window that woud be grand lol.

 

 

03 Sep 2010 12:16:58
Is there an extended period for loan signings following the close of the transfer window? If so is there anyone else out there who could better the squad on a loan deal? Or would they not be able to play as the registration for the league and europa league has been submitted? Anyone got any ideas as i am a bit confused? EPL have made this so hard to figure out with their 25 man squad size and squad registration

 

 

03 Sep 2010 12:09:08
In reply to

(We do NOT have a striker of sufficient age, expereince, guile and power to fil in for Torres and Ngog.
Pacheco - sharp, fast and skilful, but young, inexperienced and not strong enough in some situations. Fantastic potential but not there.
Eccleston - maybe.
Kuyt - not the world's most prolific striker.
Jovanovic - possibly.
But all this is conjecture - Roy himself said we needed another striker.
An answer/ explanation please as to why we didn't get one . . . .?)

I agree with that mate, I was unaware of the Alladiere situation and you're right you'd think he would jump at the chance, I can only hope that Roy didn't want him as the alternative is that the situation at our club is even worse and we can't afford the wages, we know Roy has had to free up some wages this year with loan deals out of the club and I also think it would be nice to get an explanation, but Roy seems to keep his card close to his chest , which is good in some aspects especially after all the negative publicity we've had over the last couple of years, so perhaps we won't get the explanation we require.

Maybe that with the current pending takeover (here's hoping) Roy might be being carefull, as if he signs any duds then it won't look good in front of new owners where as if the players considered to be not good enough were signed by Rafa then he can always use the excuse that they weren't signed by him. This is me just guessing at an answer really and even typing this it sounds more than speculative. The only persons that really know the answer are people at the club, let's just hope someone with a reliable source at the club posts something here because you're right we need to know.

BOB Loblaw {ed's note - have you not seen Aliadiere play recently? He is poor at CCC level, he is never going to make it at Prem level.}

 

 

 

 

03 Sep 2010 11:44:04

03 Sep 2010 11:34:13

Reina

Johnson Carragher Agger Knochesky

Mereiles Gerrard

Kuyt. Cole. Babel

Torres

A winning team!

first we shouldn't sign jenas if he can't get in the spurs side y wud we want him, and one change to that side poulsen in for babel, cole goes left, gerrard goes attack, poulsen starts holding and meireles pulls the strings.

now that wud be a winning team 3rd place this year!

ROUND ROBBEN

 

 

 

 

03 Sep 2010 11:37:02
If this player does not feature for spurs un until jan then roy will look to bring him in on loan with a view to a permanet deal? the plaer in question j.jenas

 

 

 

 

03 Sep 2010 11:34:13

Reina

Johnson Carragher Agger Knochesky

Mereiles Gerrard

Kuyt. Cole. Babel

Torres

A winning team!

 

 

03 Sep 2010 11:34:01

For ppl wondering about free transfer system if the player is free agent you can sign when you want but you can't register him till january.(that is when a new list will be registered).we should give this ausslin dude a trial till jan then sign him if he is good enough for the prem and good enough for liverpool.

ROUND ROBBEN

 

 

 

 

03 Sep 2010 11:22:43

{ed's note - all he does is email the club everytime he sees some player he likes the look of. Nothing to stop you doing the same mate, though I can't believe they wouldn't know about Sanchez by now.}
Then i deeply hope he comes, i wish woy could realise we need a winger and sanchez perfect better than turan faster more skill and strength he also plays striker he would be perect PLEASE!

ROUND ROBBEN

 

 

03 Sep 2010 11:20:33
Does anybody else find it hard to believe that Kristian Nemeth didn't even get a chance to prove himself in the first team. I went to watch a pre season freindly against Wrexham 2 seasons ago when he scored a hatrick.Two headers and a clinical right footed finish! Then last pre season he scored another couple aginst singapore in a 5-0 victory. only to be loaned out to AEK Athens for the season. His record for hungry as a youth player was unseen: Check it out:

2005–2006 Hungary U17 played 9 ( scored 11)
2006–2008 Hungary U19 played 15 (scored 14)
2009 Hungary U20 played 6 (scored 9)
2009– Hungary U21 played 4 (scored 2)
2010– Hungary 1 (0)

I mean Liverpool are gonig out looking for decent cover for Torres when the Likes of Nemeth Eccleston and Dalle valle (now sold) Tom ince or David amoo will never get a look in! Whats the point in spending millions on a world class accademy if were only feeding youth players to other clubs.

Redian

 

 

 

 

03 Sep 2010 11:05:02

Following on from Bob Loblaw's post . .

I posted the original Bob.
I still do not understand as to why we did not sign a striker?
Lots of talk on here, but very, very little explanation.
Then again - maybe the staff of LFC don't read the postings?

Alladiere is without a club - don't you think he would have jumped at £5,000 a week to sit on the bench?
There are at least six other strikers without a club - any one of them could have provided cover.

We do NOT have a striker of sufficient age, expereince, guile and power to fil in for Torres and Ngog.
Pacheco - sharp, fast and skilful, but young, inexperienced and not strong enough in some situations. Fantastic potential but not there.
Eccleston - maybe.
Kuyt - not the world's most prolific striker.
Jovanovic - possibly.
But all this is conjecture - Roy himself said we needed another striker.
An answer/ explanation please as to why we didn't get one . . . .?

 

 

 

 

03 Sep 2010 11:01:45
Ed contact anfield and ask them to sign assulin ;) {ed's note - I know someone who does that all the time. I think that he believes they see him as a scout because players he has suggested get linked with the club. Bless him, I doubt if anyone important even reads his letters!}
i wish that was me cuz i'd suggest sanchez every day.

ROUND ROBBEN {ed's note - all he does is email the club everytime he sees some player he likes the look of. Nothing to stop you doing the same mate, though I can't believe they wouldn't know about Sanchez by now.}

 

 

03 Sep 2010 11:01:09
Ed, Can free agents be signed now and can we add them to the 25-man squad?? Thanks. {ed's note - free agents can be signed, I don't know how they would work in relation to the 25 man squad. My belief is that no players may be added to the 25 man squad without special permission from the FA. I am not 100% on that though as the ruling is not very clear with regards to free agents being signed after the transfer window shuts.}

 

 

03 Sep 2010 11:00:55
Assulin would be a great signing doesn't have to be qualifed in the 25 man squad and is a lot better than maxi imo

 

 

 

 

03 Sep 2010 10:59:55
Tbh sometimes i wish i could pitch my ideas to king kenny, but i think in my plan the positions are likeley
jan:buy striker and winger
sell lucas and babel
summer:sell deadwood players(always likeley)
sell maxi
buy another striker and midfielder and a rm to replace maxi.that is quite likely.
the only thing i truly doubt is signing someone of gai asslin pos. in january

ROUND ROBBEN

 

 

03 Sep 2010 10:59:38

I totally reject the idea that we could not 'do a deal' for one. I completely reject the idea that 'a striker of quality' was not available. Consider this - Torres and Ngog injured, not playing and we need a man up front. Even a player such as 39 year old Kevin Phillips would take the weight off the midfield and offer us an option. We could surely have grabbed someone to help us through the next few months?

Sorry to bang on about this (this is the point where some other posters abuse you for your views when they can't understand, can't be bothered or don't know what to say) but the failure to land a striker has placed a very big question mark over Roy Hodgson's work practice in my mind. I DO NOT accept that we need to get the back sorted first; we already had four central defenders and an England full back! We do NOT have a forward if Torres and Ngog are injured, save for makeweights and youth players.

Well first of all, if Torres & Ngog both got injured we would still have Kuyt & Babel who granted would not be great they would be considerably better than a 39 Kevin Phillips!

Although I agree that a quality CF would have been a good investment, I don't think our defenders are that great. Apart from Agger, all the rest are now pretty average players! Carragher getting on, Skyrtel got worse last year instead of better, Kyriakos? & Konchesky who will be a better defender than Insua & more reliable than Aurelio is still no better than average.

Babel should be given the chance to shine & maybe, just maybe with a better defensive player in Konchesky this might just happen. Maybe he will also get a chance up front. This guy is being wasted warming the bench. If we had better full backs, Babel would possibly get more opportunity.

The Irish rover

 

 

 

 

03 Sep 2010 10:53:37
Ed contact anfield and ask them to sign assulin ;) {ed's note - I know someone who does that all the time. I think that he believes they see him as a scout because players he has suggested get linked with the club. Bless him, I doubt if anyone important even reads his letters!}

 

 

 

 

03 Sep 2010 10:48:29
{ed's note - no mate, I was just saying it seems so easy on paper, makes it frustrating as a fan when you can see the answers but the staff of the club can't.}

i completeley agree but i doubt manging a football team is a lot harder than its cracked up to be, but i still like my plan i would probably try it on football manager.

ROUND ROBBEN {ed's note - when the new version comes out I am going to try it!}

 

 

03 Sep 2010 10:48:14
To the person who ended their post with:
We are not a top four club and have not been one in reality, for a number of seasons, despite clinging on. I wrote on Thursday that we are an average club with a massive history. I fear that is our future and I can't see past fourth place anymore!

Good post, I think you have a valid point and one that I'm sure has been discussed by Liverpool fans all over. I think we can all agree that we need a striker. I also think that the majority of fans think we still require some out and out wingers. In the end we didn't sign any which is why I think most people are upset, well that an the fact there seem to be a mad frantic push for a striker on the last day. I have no proof but I'm sure/ I hope we were trying to sign players from the moment we knew the Mascherano deal was going through, which we did with Raul Meireles, but we were all hoping for at least one more, a striker or attacking winger depending which camp you fall in. In ideal world we get both but we are far from an ideal world at the moment.
At present were not sure what Roy is going to use as his proffered formation. If rumours are to be believed then Joe Cole has been promised a centre role behind the striker, however we all know now that Roy tried to get pavlyuchenko or Carlton Cole, suggesting that he prefers a 4-4-2 with J Cole on the left, unless he had planned on luring pavlyuchenko or Carlton Cole with the line "come play at Liverpool I can promise you a starting place if Torres is not fit", Just can't see it somehow. One of the Ed's on this site made a valid point when he said there is no striker out there going to want to come and sit on the bench, so that's the problem we have. However things all change with money, which is what we're all waiting for now. If you look at City, they were far from a top side but with massive investment they were able to convince players come to a team without champions league football by paying the wages, the signing on fees, the over inflated transfer figures and by promising a title challenge and a future champions league football. We don't know when and who is going to buy us we just have to hope whoever it is, will take pride in owning us and will give the manger the backing need to challenge for top honours. When we first found out we were up for sale Broughton said he thinks it will be sold well before Christmas, all we can do now is wait and see now, oh and support the team and manager we have.

Bob Loblaw

 

 

 

 

03 Sep 2010 10:42:57
ROUND ROBBEN {ed's note - looks great on paper, shame it is not likely to happen. It is so easy this management lark isn't it?}

ed were you being sarcastic? {ed's note - no mate, I was just saying it seems so easy on paper, makes it frustrating as a fan when you can see the answers but the staff of the club can't.}

 

 

 

 

03 Sep 2010 10:22:00
Hi ed
posting for the first time but i, m a regular reader,
just a smple question which we so want,
there is a chance on a new ownership in this month?
thanks malta {ed's note - there is a chance, yes, but I don't think it is likely to be completed that quickly.}

 

 

03 Sep 2010 10:21:37
Sorryfor posting the same thing twice my PC is messing up, but it sounds this gai assulin could be a great buy, but the managers buy who they want and not who the fans want no matter what the bargain is!like me i want sanchez but the boss doesn't think to offer for good players but average players.

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03 Sep 2010 10:10:01
So what position does this "gai assulin" dude play if he's young and talented and free it could be a gd signing, help me out

ROUND ROBBEN {ed's note - he plays a similar role to Messi, Pedro, Pacheco, Iniesta etc, a kind of attacking midfielder/forward.}

 

 

03 Sep 2010 10:08:14
Re. Arda Turan (post from around 1am)

Is there definitive proof that this guy is on RH's radar? Whilst I agree wholeheartedly that we lack a winger, with Joe Cole and Jovanovic having signed - both attacking players who can play wide left or through the middle (and babel to a lesser degree) I can't help but think that RH will be looking at something a bit different, and the priority has to be a forward. I'm not sorry that we failed in our bid to sign carlton cole or some of the other rather dubious names we were linked with but I'm slightly dumbfounded that we didn't manage to sign a striker earlier in the window. Lack of funds I know, but when it comes to priorities its interesting that RH signed two holding/ central midfielders and no forwards. With Poulsen filling Mach's boots it'll be intereting to see if Meireles can finally fill Xabi's.

Whilst its disappointing that we still have no new owners and obvious gaps in the squad (and that that we're all scanning the free agents list in some distant hope), looking at the ins and outs of the summer a fair bit has been achieved, but we're still very much a work in progress.

In terms of where the improvements may be made in January, its clear that messrs Lucas and Babel have it all to do as b oth are clearly seen as peripheral. If they fail to make the grade expect to see another central mid come in and Lucas exit, and babel's place would presumably be filled by a centre-forward

If the central defence stay fit it will also be interesting to see what happens to kyrgiakos as unless agger continues to fill in at left back (unlikely) I can't see where his chances will come unless he getsa a league cup run or something.

Dawkins

 

 

 

 

03 Sep 2010 09:43:26

I'm going to wind up some man u fans by going on their banter page posing as a rangers fan

ROUND ROBBEN

 

 

03 Sep 2010 09:42:02
Just watched honda on yt and i've changed my mind sign him now to replace lucas (not as the same role but as another midfielder).

ROUND ROBBEN

 

 

 

 

03 Sep 2010 09:28:33
Ed my posts are for the banter page but they keep getting posted on the rumourspage.this is banter.
following on from what you said about insua playing regularly maybe its cuz it reminded rafa of himself in his younger years

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03 Sep 2010 08:25:56
From the official Liverpool FC website:
"Hodgson had hoped to secure a striker signing before the transfer deadline but failed in his attempts to sign Carlton Cole and Roman Pavlyuchenko but apparently the Anfield manager is also looking to add more creativity to his midfield and is hoping to bring in a player who can supply the ammunition for his threadbare front line."

The more I read this and the more I read what the Editor said on such matters, along with the comments of writers on here, the more irritated I have become about this failure to land a striker.

(For the ignorant and abusive posters - this is not one for you, but more for the people who want to 'discuss' rather than abuse other people!)

Football management and financial dealings have taken on a mysterious and elevated position in the game. We seem to be in awe at times at the way managers take a player off and put another one onto the field; we stand and admire a manager who decides this player is better than that one on the right of midfield; we nod appreciatively at the way a manger spends £17 million on a player we also as fans have admired and thought would do our club a good job. We mentally clap the manager when he sells a player we also thought was pants and then watch as he basks in the light of his own importance.

Football management is not a branch of microbiology, nor is it an offshoot of theoretical physics or mathematical calculus. The 'real' skill is in the coaching and there are not all that many managers who do that - hence the number of coaches we see on the books of Premier League clubs. Some PL managers (Hodgson, O'Neill, Wenger and McCleish) apparently are involved, but there are other roles and jobs they are tasked with during the working day. Man management is one of those core skills, but judging by the way some have handled players, you'd think they were novices at it.

This brings me back to the argument concerning our lack of a new striker. I will not reiterate my points of Wednesday and Thursday; suffice to say Roy Hodgson, Sammy Lee and Christian Purslow did not wake up on Monday morning and think, "Hey, we need a striker!" or "Let's have a look for a striker."
The fans are not stupid and if you follow the tenet of my argument in the earlier paragraphs, it was easy and simple and plain to see and obvious and maddeningly evident to all that we needed a new striker! So why did it not happen?

I totally reject the idea that we could not 'do a deal' for one. I completely reject the idea that 'a striker of quality' was not available. Consider this - Torres and Ngog injured, not playing and we need a man up front. Even a player such as 39 year old Kevin Phillips would take the weight off the midfield and offer us an option. We could surely have grabbed someone to help us through the next few months?

Sorry to bang on about this (this is the point where some other posters abuse you for your views when they can't understand, can't be bothered or don't know what to say) but the failure to land a striker has placed a very big question mark over Roy Hodgson's work practice in my mind. I DO NOT accept that we need to get the back sorted first; we already had four central defenders and an England full back! We do NOT have a forward if Torres and Ngog are injured, save for makeweights and youth players.

Football management is not rocket science! I want to believe that and it makes sense to me. There are many apologists on here for Roy and his failure to land a striker. I do not accept that it was 'not possible' due to money. We knew the money from Mascherano was coming in and Aquilani's move was not a shock. If you find this boring then maybe the minutae of football management and operations are not for you; you may be more interested in the simple kicking of the ball. That's okay. But it does not remove the concerns I have about they way we have gone about working in the past month.

What did Roy say to Gerrard and Torres about the way forward?
He could not have said "we will get another top striker to work with you and deputise for you." He could not have said, "Stevie we will be bringing in the cream of PL and European talent to bolster the squad." Cole was a good addition, but since then, save for Raul Meireles, the rest have been makeweights.

We are not a top four club and have not been one in reality, for a number of seasons, despite clinging on. I wrote on Thursday that we are an average club with a massive history. I fear that is our future and I can't see past fourth place anymore!

 

 

 

 

03 Sep 2010 08:01:42

Ref the below:

03 Sep 2010 02:49:37
Alright you reds! Enough moping. I have found something to be very happy with when most of us are in the dumps. The England u-19 game has given me hope in the form of one Jonjo Shelvey. He was absolutely brilliant and bossed the midfield. And his free-kick was spectacular. Hopefully this will see him move into the u-21's for England and start pushing for a place in our team. I know he is a central mid but remember that stevie at times had to play on the wings and I am sure shelvey would be happy to get a game anywhere. He genuinely could be a break out talent and Roy should play the boy (at the very least in the carling cup and the europa league). Also Ngoo took his goal very well. Any thoughts?
YNWA

I didn't see the game but good to see 3 Liverpool players in the squad (can't remember in recent years us having that many players in this age group representing the counry); also Shelvey captained his country and then left the field and gave the armband to Andre Wisdom - aged 17 years and 3 months. I saw him playing for the academy last year and he looks a great prospect - I think he played every position in Def and Mid last year and always looked good.

Hoola

 

 

 

 

03 Sep 2010 04:17:56
This is my first team with everyone available.

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Reina. . . . . . . . . . . . .

.Carragher. . Skrtel. . . . . . Agger. . . . . Kosnachy


. . . . . . .Meireles. . . . . . . . . . . . . Gerrard. . . . .

G.Johnson. . . . . . . . . Cole. . . . . . . Jovanovic. .

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Torres. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

Bench: B.Jones, M.kelly, D.Pacheco, Lucas, Poulson, Babel, N'gog.

I also think Shelvey and wilson should be given a run.
now i know everyone will disagree with playing Carragher at right back however i believe skrtel and agger are stronger down the middle with carra still deserving a place in the starting eleven just not as central anymore.
If we had money in January i would spend it on Arda Turan I have followed him for years he is my idol and his skills and flair would pe perfect for Liverpool out wide on left even though he is more commonly deployed behind the striker.

Criticision welcome
* excuse my spelling.

D.D.K

 

 

03 Sep 2010 02:49:37
Alright you reds! Enough moping. I have found something to be very happy with when most of us are in the dumps. The England u-19 game has given me hope in the form of one Jonjo Shelvey. He was absolutely brilliant and bossed the midfield. And his free-kick was spectacular. Hopefully this will see him move into the u-21's for England and start pushing for a place in our team. I know he is a central mid but remember that stevie at times had to play on the wings and I am sure shelvey would be happy to get a game anywhere. He genuinely could be a break out talent and Roy should play the boy (at the very least in the carling cup and the europa league). Also Ngoo took his goal very well. Any thoughts?
YNWA

 

 

03 Sep 2010 02:43:42
TORRES KUYT
BABEL MIERELES GERRARD COLE
KONCHESKY AGGER CARRA JOHNSON
REINA

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NGOG PACHECO
JOVAN POULSEN LUCAS MAXI
AURELIO KYRGIAKOS SKRTEL KELLY
JONES

 

 

 

 

03 Sep 2010 00:18:35
02 Sep 2010 22:58:25
Your right ed insuas problems were definitley his weight.


i don't really think so myself only my poinion though. i think he was good at attackin had decent pace and strenth and at time V.good crosses just the way he defended always left him exposed as he would rush in and leave his legs open and gets nutts. but yeah hes trackin back was too poor

 

 

 

 

03 Sep 2010 00:16:31
Liverpool to challenge for fourth but to no avail as either man city or spurs will pip us we may end up in 6th, but relax, we will not finish below 6th this year, we've too much good players not to, regardless of the odd bogey :P. Middle East Sugar Daddy FTW! :)