Liverpool Banter Archive October 04 2010

 

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04 Oct 2010 23:25:29

First of all I would like to ask what would happen to the club if the banks take control of the club?

Secondly ED how bad of a job is Roy doing I mean the bord issues really can't be used as an excuse as rafa deliver decent results under pretty much the same secomstances, and why does he let other poor teams eg WBA, sunderland and blackpool play so freely at home it is quite honestly a descrace!

Bring back aquilani to play of torres {ed's note - no one is entirely sure what happens if the banks take over the club. A lot of it depends on the FA's view of that situation. If they view it as the club going into administration then they could take points off us. But even if that happens the club will be auctioned off by RBS if the take charge, they are not intending to run the club, just to sell it to recover the money they lent H&G. As for Roy, it is difficult to see anything good about his reign on the pitch, no matter how desperately I look for good signs.}

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 23:21:57
To whoever wrote -

"Thommos words from that interview

Thommo: "I heard a little wisper yesterday that things are looking quite good and something could happen before the derby game, it could be sorted. But i've heard this before and I'm not taking anything for granted, but it was coming from a decent source.""

I think what he meant was "Derby" game - not "derby" game. That'll be sometime next season then.

Deke Reefer

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 23:18:51

Thommos words from that interview

Thommo: "I heard a little wisper yesterday that things are looking quite good and something could happen before the derby game, it could be sorted. But i've heard this before and I'm not taking anything for granted, but it was coming from a decent source."

 

 

04 Oct 2010 23:18:39

JUST SPOTTED CARLOS SLIM IN TOWN AT THE KFC

ICANT TAKE ANYMORE BS

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 22:57:04

In reply to

To the guys who disagree, I would like to know your own thoughts. How do you think we can get the team winning again?

You too Ed. . what are your thoughts?

Also, would you sell Torres in Jan? For me, if we can get £40-50m and get two quality players in return then I would sell him all day long! His time is up!

PJ the Red.

i think a no holds barred team meeting needs to be had, a few players need to be told a few home truths about there attitude. we need a clean sheet and torres needs a goal to go in of his arse or something i am all for us fans to get behind the team but at the same time the team needs to give us something posistive to get behind. i would not sell torres when fit the only rival to him is villa his current fitness prolems date back to last season when he was played by benitez when he was not fit when alonso left we could have used the 17 mil spent on aquilani could have been used to buy a striker benitez got his arse smacked because of that fiasco, hodgeson needed another striker but the mash affair draged on. i would personally use a 5 3 2 attacking formation because if and when injurys do occur our sqauad won't seem to streched.
reina

carra skirtel agger

johnson/ kelly konchesky/ aurello

meirels gerrard


cole


kuyt torres

rest of squad

def, wilson the greek ayala irwin

mid, lucas poulson spearing maxi shelvey

attack, n gog babel pacheo

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 22:49:35
Why are fans of liverpool fc disrespectin rafa for, he did a great job. and he is part of our history!
This is not the lfc way we support our own.
That is why we never walk alone.
rafa had to sell before buy. he didn't want, but barry, keane was bought by powers above rafa, ok he has some misses but wot about hits pepe, agger, masch, alonso, nando.Lets just say thank you for ur time and 2 champions league finals and domestic cup. . i remember standing on the kop and hearing every1 chant. rafa rafial, and signs everywhere sayin in rafa we trust. . wish him good luck and lets all remember we have some class and we will hold our heads up high! !

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 22:42:12
Lets face facts, the fans are a disgrace and they causing the team to lose on the pitch.

if u want to blame anyone, then start with the fans.

 

 

04 Oct 2010 22:38:59
Desparate times call for desparate means. I think we all should adopt the Tinkerbell Effect.

If everyone repeats the following 5 times every day they will eventually come true:

1. Liverpool are the greatest football club in the world.
2. The club will be bought by a billionaire Liverpool support in the next 7 days.
3. Roy Hodgson will turn things around and we will finish in the top 4 this season.

Remember just 5 times every day and believe.

Fabian Treezle

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 22:33:20

Lets face facts this is a disgrace what is happening to our beloved club it has been happening for a long time reality is here tables don't lie last 19 seasons performance don't lie blame who we want to blame but the fact will remain we need to clear out at least 10 players first team we need to adopt a different style of play with players who are good enough to wear the shirt of liverpool with pride and honour the academy is a shambles the first team is a joke and the board hasnt got a clue how to fix it or make a descion that most fans who get up and work there balls of for a living can see plainly every day we are the ones who it hurts every time we go to work pick up the papers listen to the news listen to the excuses of the manager players board enough is enough now let every player go who does not want to be here get rid of every player who we know should not be here put people in charge who have liverpool in there blood because untill we do we will remain unhappy and a joke this is liverpool fc our way of life remember what shankly stood for and built and passed on lets return to simple values that carried this club the esteem that made us all proud to support this club we no what they are lets hope the ghost of anfield past help the future of our club prevail in its darkest hour ynwa

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 22:13:01

Ed, would you rather ave suarez or dzeko?

{Editor's Note: Suarez - I think Dzeko is way overrated.}

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 21:52:46
And on a lighter note the Yanks were defeated in wales earlier let's hope it's not too long before they are defeated on the fields of anfield road

 

 

04 Oct 2010 21:31:44
Fabian,
So you don't think my Rafa arguments were real evidence or reason to let him go then? ?
On the NI thing, i do apologise if that upset ya but as i said there was 100% no mailce attached to that.
I too, as i said have connection to the place and don't shi* on my own doorstep as such, so sorry if you took offence to that & i mean that genuinely!
It was a comparison i couldn't think of any other way of describing. I don't think anyone who is half involved in the place would / should take any offence to though - its not like i slagged any side od the fence as such - it was an innocent comparison.
Anyway - make of it what you please.
We clearly will never agree with the Rafa thing but lets try to agree on one thing - He is gone now & we as a club need to move on now & throw our support behind the rag tag team we now have left.
Anfield is like a morgue at the recent games (last 10 months) - no offence meant in that comparison either :~)
We need to up the support or the season could be a write off.
But the players need to step up also.
Poulsen for one reminds me of a horse proudly trotting about at a dressage (Again no offence to dressage people with that comparison). No urgency!
But passion & urgency can be brought out of these players with some vocal support sometimes ie Istanbul (No offence yet again).
Cheers & sorry for calling you arrogant Fabian, i'm sure i'll convince you eventually :)
Irish Kev.
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LOL - Now there's no need to take the pi* and apologise for everything you say!

I am a great admirer of Rafa because he brought us some great times and gave us some fantastic memories. I do also acknowledge that he made a number of mistakes along the way, but I just wish he had been given the same length of time old whiskey nose was given before he won the league (1 more season). I can't help but wonder if last season was just a blip and he may have kicked on this year.

One thing which does rile me is that the board replaced him with someone who isn't even half the manager. If they had of replaced him with Hiddink or even Pellegrini then I would have said fine.

I agree with you that we must put Rafa behind us, move on and get behind the team 100%. However, that means not blaming him for the performance of the team now, which many on this site seem to quick to do.

All I pray for now is solid new owners soon. Not owners like Chelsea or Man City, but owners who will put the club back onto solid foundations, modestly invest in the squad and build the new stadium.

I am not a religious man but, needs must!

Fabian Treezle

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 21:24:01

If what you are saying is true then you should be ashamed of yourself. Plastics simply don't understand but YOU should clearly know better. Letting your site be run by a SCUM MANC fan who was openly mocking our plight on a LFC FORUM was evidence enough but having advertisments for the S*n on here is an insult to MY family and all the other family's in the City who were directly affected by Hillsborough.And you have no excuse or words to justify your actions whatsover. From the City? 50 you don't have the balls to post this! Bennyboy YNWA {ed's note - best you send me 50 then Bennyboy, as for the talk about scum etc, grow up and act your age. He made a mistake, it won't happen again, but that is, after all, banter and this is a banter site or perhaps you failed to notice that? As for the ads for the S*n, I have said many times that the ads are through Google adsense and the only way to stop the ads is if people give me the exact link when they see one. As soon as it is given the ad is blocked but I can't do anymore than that unfortunately, I can't find any way to block specific advertisers. As for the rest I advise you to go elsewhere, you are a bigoted idiot who probably spends his entire life whining about 'out of town fans' every single day. Say bye bye, I have no time for bigots.}

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 21:20:24

Loads of people on this site slagging Kyrgiakos off or calling him "the greek". He might not be the best player in the world, but the man tries his heart out every time he plays and nearly dragged us back into the game single handedly on sunday. I'd love a team of people like him trying their hearts out rather than the S* T we had out on Sunday. What do you think ED. .

Sooty {ed's note - I think he is crap and was partly at fault for both the goals we conceded and spent the entire game backing up into the penalty box and allowing them to attack us. The guy is one of the worst players I have ever seen play for us.}


So you don't like him then ED. . . lol, I bow to your superior knowledge, having said that, he nearly scored two goals on Sunday, what does that say for the other S* te on the pitch. {ed's note - he is good in the air, that is his main strength.}

 

 

04 Oct 2010 21:18:14

To whoever said this:

04 Oct 2010 16:50:10
I'm sitting in Schiphol airport with several hours to spare before my flight home, and so I have been reading all of the Rumours and Banter posts.
I am depressed. I should have gone for a few pints instead.
I have been a Liverpool fan for fifty years, and I have never seen, nor could I ever have imagined the club to be in such a sorry state.
To me, the worst part of our current situation is not the money-grabbing US carpetbaggers who have landed our club in such dire financial straits, nor is it a poorly performing team, or a manager that needs a couple of good results. The worst part for me is the lack of support shown by supposed supporters. Whatever happened to YNWA?
"When you walk through a storm hold your head up high".
Get behind the manager, get behind the team, and support them instead of slagging them off. It can't do their morale any good to read some of the distasteful rants that appear on this site. And it really is below the belt to highlight a minor speech impediment. His name is Roy. Use it.

{Editor's Note: If we had a Post of The Day prize, you would be nominated.}

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Absolutely. Well said poster and well said ed.


this is the best i've read so far. . couldn't agree more . you should be nominated sir. .
we should support our team. . .You'll Never Walk Alone. . .

 

 

04 Oct 2010 21:09:17
Ed I posted my thoughts yesterday but again you choose to ignore, i'll give it another go. . . .
Give Roy a chance but only if he has the b. .s to pick something like the following

Reina
Kelly Wilson Agger Aurelio
Amoo Gerard Meireles Eccleston
Cole
Torres

Yanks out

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 21:04:12

I can't believe how negative and how quick to throw out the bath water some of you soooo called Liverpool fans are!

Let's get one thing straight here and put it to bed before we end up with a mass kop suicide!
LFC are 7 points away from 3rd place! In case you haven't noticed the teams above us in 3rd & 4th place aren't exactly setting the league alight either! We have had 7 games! Not 33 games 7! I know it is hard for some of you to work this one out but let me help you! If the teams ahead of us get a few injuries or play crap away from home or even just have a bad run that can't be explained and we string together 3 or 4 wins on the trot (I know that doesn't look like happening right now) then all of a sudden we are up the league and showing signs of challenging for top 4!

There was a time when LFC fans really knew their football and understood that a season is a Marathon and not s sprint. . but it seems to me that we are getting more and more of the MICROWAVE fan coming through the gates and clicking away on the Net who want instant results regardless!

Take over isn't happening this week. . info I have says it's at least 4-6 weeks away!

So let's give Roy all the support he deserves after all we are Liverpool FC and we don't sack Managers just for a couple of bad results! He picks a team he gives them instructions but at the end of the day they have to go out and perform. . .he can't kick the ball for them, he can't pick a pass! yes I know some will come back and say why is he picking sub standard players etc etc. . . . .the difference is he has only been around for a couple of months some players look happy to take the money and in all fairness Blackpool did really well with a team that in the main is average with players but plays as a team. . plus they got a lucky break when they saw Fernando walk off!

Feel free to come back at me. . .but I will leave you with this!
How Liverpool are you?

Kopite70

 

 

04 Oct 2010 21:03:59

Yet another plastic fallacy that any decent fan can drive a frigging bus through, Rafa lost the KOP about the same time he lost the dressing room. If any of you actually went to Anfield you would know this. Gerrard told Purslow he would only stay if he went end of. Forget centre forwards who werent even born in England let alone Liverpool, the ONLY player who is seperating us and total disaster is our inspirational Captain who quite literally covers every single blade of grass for his home town club and doesn't cry like a little baby if he stubs his little toe in the ground like certain other supposed superstar players who are nothing short of a disgrace. We need people to FIGHT for Liverpool and this will not be forgotten believe me. Bennyboy YNWA

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 20:58:00

Hi All, had a quick question for Lee, I really don't mean to undermine or ridicule you, as I don't have any inside info myself, but just wanted to know if you could shed some light on what basis you know about the new owners ?
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hi the above message was sent earlier and like i said on saturday that i have been told by a friend who works for liverpool who is high up infact that the club has been sold (he was told by his manager and he is an assistant)he does not yet know who the new owner is until the press conference is taking place or is about to. it is said that a conference will be held this week. all checks have been made by the boardroom and hes been passes OK to be the new liverpool owners. i have just been passed on the news by him and he is a very trustworthy man i have actually seen the text he was sent on saturday. this is not a stupid rumour going round liverpool this is fact!

 

 

04 Oct 2010 20:57:59

"{ed's note - I am not a Manc nor do I (nor the Manc ed for that matter) live anywhere near Surrey.....}"

{Editor's Note: I am not a Manc but I do live near Surrey. Actually it is rather nicer that Surrey where I live, but it is not Surrey - so I guess there is no problem with me?}

 

 

04 Oct 2010 20:57:20

Hicks and Gillette will make it very hard for LFC to be bought by new owners. Maby 3 years ago their valuation of the club was realistic, but now things are different and Hicks and Gillet cannot expect to get price they are asking for, for LFC.
The price they are looking for is about 300m euros above what would be considered normal at the moment and this dossen't include the dept.

If a sale does not go through soon to an owner that has the money to own a club like LFC, then I hope on a sad note that all LFC fans stop attending LFC home games.
The Yanks are depending on the fans to keep the club going through ticket sales as this is the only source of significant income for LFC apart from sponserships.
This is not good enough for a club like LFC.

{Editor's Note: If the owners were offered £450M today I think they wopuld take it.}

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 20:51:56

LOOK WE NEED TO START PLAYING PLAYERS IN THERE PROPER POSITIONS, NOT JUST PUTTIN BEST PLAYERS ON PITCH IE, WHATS COLE DOIN ON THE LEFT, HE JOINED THE CLUB TO PLAY IN HIS PREFERED FREE CENTRAL POSITION, JOVANOVIC/ PACHECO ON LEFT, GERRARD&MEREILES CENTER MID, RIGHTSIDE KUYT/ BABEL/ AMOO EVEN JOHNSON THOUGH THAT GOES AGAINST THE POSITIONAL STATEMENT BUT HE'S NOT EXACTLY CROWNING HIMSELF IN GLORY AT FULLBACK, BRING IN WILSON, KELLY AGGER WHEN FIT AND BUY HIS COUNTRYMAN KJAER, AURELIO WHEN FIT IN LEFT POSITION, NOW ALL THESE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SUPPLY TORRES WE MUST BECOME MORE OFFENSIVE

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 20:46:48

Loads of people on this site slagging Kyrgiakos off or calling him "the greek". He might not be the best player in the world, but the man tries his heart out every time he plays and nearly dragged us back into the game single handedly on sunday. I'd love a team of people like him trying their hearts out rather than the S* T we had out on Sunday. What do you think ED. .

Sooty {ed's note - I think he is crap and was partly at fault for both the goals we conceded and spent the entire game backing up into the penalty box and allowing them to attack us. The guy is one of the worst players I have ever seen play for us.}

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 20:42:12
Look Im am as pationate about liverpool as the next fan, and yes I cried at Istanbull but we need to look at the truth. .
1. We are in a relegation fight
2. We have a boss who is more used to the bottom half than the top half of the table.
3. Woy has lost Torres, the same as he did Masha.
4. Were gonna get stuffed by the toffeess.
5. We won't sell the club this year.
6. We will lose 9 points and be lucky to stay up.
7. Carra is struggling, Johnston is shocking and we aint got a second striker.

But do you what. . Im still a red, until im dead.
Y.N.W.A.

1. .a couple of wins will putt us in top 10
2. .hodgson good manager just not are way of playing
3. .torres like most strikers needs confidence and goals
4. .the lads will come good
5. .once r.b.s take control you will see buyers come flocking in
6. .we are secure as a club its are holding company with the debt no 9 point deduction and relegation your haveing a laugh
7. .carragher slow but can still do a job johnson needs hyypia to show him how to defend and he can be best rightback in country and the only point i agree with is a big targetman to play upfront

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 20:22:33

Look Im am as pationate about liverpool as the next fan, and yes I cried at Istanbull but we need to look at the truth. .
1. We are in a relegation fight
2. We have a boss who is more used to the bottom half than the top half of the table.
3. Woy has lost Torres, the same as he did Masha.
4. Were gonna get stuffed by the toffeess.
5. We won't sell the club this year.
6. We will lose 9 points and be lucky to stay up.
7. Carra is struggling, Johnston is shocking and we aint got a second striker.

But do you what. . Im still a red, until im dead.
Y.N.W.A.

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 20:16:02
New squad
REINA. . . . .JOHNSON. . . COLE. . . . .PACHECO
JONES. . . . .KELLY. . . . . AMOO. . . . ECCLESTONE
GULACSI. . . DARBY. . . . . STERLING. NGOG
BOUZANIS. . MAVINGA. . . INCE. . . . .BENT
. . . . . . . . . KONCHESKEY.JOHNSON. DZENKO
. . . . . . . . .BRIDGE. . . . . BRUNA
. . . . . . . . . CARRAGHER. .BALE
. . . . . . . . . AGGER. . . . . SPEARING
. . . . . . . . . CAHILL. . . . .PARKER
. . . . . . . . .SHAWCROSS. MEIRELES
. . . . . . . . . .AYALA. . . . .FERNANDEZ
. . . . . . . . . WILSON. . . . GERRARD
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .SHELVEY

looks a good squad out of these players id use
a 4.4.2.at home
. . . . . . . . . . . . . REINA. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. CARRAGHER. . CAHILL. . . AGGER. . . .BRIDGE. .
. A.JOHNSON. GERRARD. . . PARKER. . .BALE. . .
. . . . . . . . .DZENKO. . . . . BENT. . . . . . . . . .

and a 5.1.3.1.away

. . . . . . . . . . . . . .REINA. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . SHAWCROSS.CAHILL.AGGER. . . . . . . .
. G.JOHNSON. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . BALE. . .
. . . . . . . . . . . . . .PARKER. . . . . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . GERRARD. . MEIRELES. .COLE. . . . . . .
. . . . . . . . . . . . . .DZENKO. . . . . . . . . . . . .

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 20:07:23

Ed is it true super sub david fairclough has had a heart attack if so can i be the first to wish him a speedy recovery {ed's note - yes mate it is true, sorry.}

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 20:07:01

Players should be dropped in the wake of that s*1t yesterday. Thats why they don't give anything - they know our squad is thin so they will be in next week. No threat to their places.

We should replace these deadwood journeyman players with young, hungry, QUICK, talented players. . .

OUT IN
Maxi (Dani Pacheco)
Jovanovic (David Amoo)
Skrtl (Dan Agger)
Johnson (David Kelly)
Poulsen (Jay Spearing)
Lucas (Jonjo Shelvey)

There is only one way that these young players will develop - and that's with first team chances. Just like Owen, Stevie G, God, Carra and Macca before them, and Fabregas for example at the Arse.

Time for a few brave decisions from Hodgson. If we get spanked by Everton, I fear for him. I wanna get behind him as its the 'right' thing to do, but I don't WANT to!

Bring Back Kenny! YNWA

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 20:03:54
Mass clear out of the s* t we have

degan, kyriagos, skrtel, aurellio, rodriguez, lucas, poulson, babel, jovanavic, and chuck in ngog kuyt and yes torres.

tell city they can have torres for 50 million and wayne bridge and adam johnson see how much they really want him.

use that cash for a new strike force of darren bent and edin dzenko.

get rid of lucas and poulson and buy scott parker to partner gerrard

get rid of skrtel and kyriagos and buy gary cahill and ryan shawcross still some cash left from summer

use babel as bate to get gareth bale add cash from kuyt, rodriguez and jovanavic to seal the deal

and give some youngsters a chance

new squad
REINA. . . . .JOHNSON. . . COLE. . . . .PACHECO
JONES. . . . .KELLY. . . . . AMOO. . . . ECCLESTONE
GULACSI. . . DARBY. . . . . STERLING. NGOG
BOUZANIS. . MAVINGA. . . INCE. . . . .BENT
. . . . . . . . . KONCHESKEY.JOHNSON. DZENKO
. . . . . . . . .BRIDGE. . . . . BRUNA
. . . . . . . . . CARRAGHER. .BALE
. . . . . . . . . AGGER. . . . . SPEARING
. . . . . . . . . CAHILL. . . . .PARKER
. . . . . . . . .SHAWCROSS. MEIRELES
. . . . . . . . . .AYALA. . . . .FERNANDEZ
. . . . . . . . . WILSON. . . . GERRARD
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .SHELVEY

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 19:58:23

In reply to this

But who the f*ck would want Benitez back - Roy is using exactly the same formation, with almost the same players - we need a change of tactics and team selection - with a manager with motivational skills. We may as well keep Roy, if we can't find someone better - and Benitez certainly wasn't better.

Do you think if rafa was still in charge would we have lost to Blackpool? If rafa was still here would he have got average players like poulsen and konchesky? If rafa was still the manager would have said a draw in holland is a good result? I think not. So before you start to talk about the tatics look at Roy, he still wants to play the counter like he did at fulam and that would work if you have a balance in the team like a strong defence an okay midfield with duff and Dempsey and a strong striker like zamora, now look at Liverpool do we have a solid backline? In midfield we should be wiping the floor with teams like Blackpool, sunderland and utretch. . Gerrard, miereles, cole, kuyt. Not forgeting babel, maxi and Lucas. Man for man we are considerably better then these teams but we can't win because gerrard isn't a counter attacking midfielder, yes he's box to box but still, kuyt has all the energy in the world but he isn't either. What we need to do is build the team around gerrard and torres and I believe the team that rafa had was almost there. . Babel would be great behind torrs, maxi gerrard and aqaulani linked up well and with aditions like jova our team would be great through the middle. Now if you look at when torres was on form, most if his goals came from through balls through the middle. So don't question me. Now what? Go on, answer me if I'm wrong. .

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 19:43:15
Best bit of banter ever by the ed, liverpool to win 4 out of next 6 n only lose 1! nearly pissed my trousers!
laughing out loud
the tiger - sorry ed, that's funny!

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 19:41:16

Its a good job liverpool has docks
heard a rumour that liverpool are about to sink!
all hands on deck!
im a rangers fan so couldnt care less if you win/ lose or get relagated, so i will give you my honest/ unbiased opinion. no point in sacking roy n going back to dalgleish, he should tell you to f*ck off anyway as you had your chance in summer. most of you don't want m.o neil, so stick with what you got in roy. your on here debating about selling torres, i don't think you have a choice, he's off and it won't be 40mill or anything, prob 20-25. reina off for about 10m n gerrard about 15m (before you all start with gerrrard, he's past it in his 30's, no-one will pay top money. he is a very good player though).
the bank will take charge, and that is a real bad place to be (rangers have been their for last 3 year so i no). i think it is a dark time for liverpool im afraid, i don't think you'll get euope football this year and you will then go through a spell of gaffer after gaffer (like west ham or the likes). i don't expect you lot to agree as you must be the most blinkered fans ive ever come across but there are the facts. i said you would struggle this year and was shot down by the "we have roy n joe cole so we're going to finish 3rd" brigade.
cheers the tiger (rfc, 1st to 50)

 

 

04 Oct 2010 19:41:15
Markus Babbel

bring markys babble to the club, he could be learn the ropes under hodgson, or even replace him.

he's 38, was a great player for us, bring him back

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 19:38:35

Ok i was wrong i said johnson can't cross, but on sunday in the second half his balls in to the box were ok, so maybe he can play at rm, then play kelly at rb. i don't understand why meireles is on the wing and poulsen is even playing he is far to slow. and finally i think especially last season ngog has been trown in at the deep end, he is young and does try, roy should have brought jova on and finally played him as a striker. ed do think roy will change his tactics and would any of this work

always a red

{Editor's Note: Tactics will change depending on players available and who we are playing. I feel we will be in better shape after the next six games. Four wins, one loss, one draw.}

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 19:30:37
Can you really see Manchester United PLC failing as a business the way Liverpool have? The main difference is that, the glazers don't want to sell we are actually sound financially and the massive debts that 'we' have. .are infact only the glazer's debt, when they move on the debt will be gone. Also, we will be fine until then as we have such a massive portfolio of commercial enterprise.

Another important difference is that there is a long list of buyers who would snap at MUFC. Even as a United fan, i will say unfortunately LFC seem to scare away potential suitors.

JAMESSS

well you'll find its more or less the same at liverpool we have a massive fan base all over the world same as utd, and also have list of buyers, and its not liverpool that you say scare away potential suitors, its H&G that are the problem mate but hopefully not for long:))so with a little luck the f* k off and stop bleeding our club dry.

kinghenry

 

 

04 Oct 2010 19:30:36

In reply to

To the guys who disagree, I would like to know your own thoughts. How do you think we can get the team winning again?

You too Ed. . what are your thoughts?

Also, would you sell Torres in Jan? For me, if we can get £40-50m and get two quality players in return then I would sell him all day long! His time is up!

PJ the Red.


I've said it many times before, it's NOW time to drop this 4-2-3-1 crap and move to a more attacking formation that players know.

No more of this BS defensive approach, It's do or die Roy!

4-4-2 against Everton!

- - - - - - -Babel- - - Kuyt

- - - Cole- - - -Gerrard- - -Johnson

- - - - - - - - -Meirless

Konchesky- Agger- - -Skrtel- - Kelly


Agree - believable
Disagree - Unbelievable

why is babel in your team whats your thinking behind this? whats he done to make you want to put him in your team. when kuyts upfront hes never in the box you hit babel hard once he will sulk his way thru the game konchesky is a squad player so is kelly they are not the answear and you have not named a cat in goal so we'd be defo f* ked come on kid give us a break remember form is temporary

golden slumbers.

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 19:25:42
Ed, you say M.O.N. played long ball football at celtic but he also broke the Rangers monoply of being the top Scottish team, when he left celtic they were established as scotlands top team.
Now perhaps I am not being a football purist but if M.O.N came to anfield and managed to win trophies and become a regular title challenger I personally wouldn't care if he played long ball, short ball or even played football with a rugby ball because we havent always been the pretiest team to watch and have still underachieved with the re-scources available to us.
Marco.

{Editor's Note: It is not perhaps so easy to get away with that approach in England Marco.}

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 19:20:43
Does anyone know were babel is?

No one knows he's been missing for 3yrs

very good mate, hes not the only one:))

 

 

04 Oct 2010 19:20:26

What the hell is Roy talking relegation fight! !Nonsense, he is not semding the right message, the man wants to back the team and so should the fans.However we need to change the formation to 442 and play Johnson (useless at right back)at right midfield because ya man merelies(Spellin&^%$) can't play there and Maxi is a awful player! The players need to look at themselves and dig us out of this mess, forget the off field situation as they are still being paid right? I would like to see Babel given a last chance , give him 3 games to produce! Also when has a manager of Liverpool left his job within his first year?He should be given time but come on Roy lets have something positive!

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 19:13:46

Liverpool is sinking very fast. The fans have lost all confidence in the team and are now turning against the players. The ownership is one battle players cannot win but they can win the battles on the pitch. At present they look lost, frustrated, bewildered on what they should be doing. They say a new manager should build from the back we are not building anything. I would take 7th place right now. New owners will bring us cash to buy some quality enabling us to challenge. The present squad should be able to complete with the likes of Blackpool. Look as Spurs today, they were ruthless sacked Ramos after 8 eight games. I don't think he was a bad manager just did not suit Spurs. We should sack Hodgson. Look at what he has done so far;

>Poulson and Lucas - Centre played 3 times together woeful
>Poulson on his own is a liability
>Picks Johnson despite playing poorly and costing us goals. Refuses to pick Kelly instead
>Picks Skrtel constantly gives free kicks away
>Drops Agger - only defender who is good on the ball
>Spends 12 mill on Meirles and plays him right mid. When losing brings him CM and things looks better. He then referts back next game
>Shelvey, Pacheco, Spearing not being given chances in league games
>He talks like a defeatest

Bring Kenny and Rush - already at club part time. If new owners want new manager fine they can revert back to old roles. kenny will bring passion, commitment and most of all desire.

Kenny's last game was against Everton. His first game back against Everton

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 19:09:47
This is more along the lines of what I'd like to see:-

- - - - - -Torres- - - - - -
- - - - - Pacheco- - - - - -

Cole- - - Gerrard- - - Amoo

- - - - - Miereles- - - - - - -

Mavinga- Agger- Ayala(*)- Kelly

- - - - - - Reina- - - - - - - -

subs FROM: Jones, Hansen, Lucas, Wilson, Shelvey, Kuyt, , Carragher, Skrtel, Ecclestone, Spearing, N'Gog, Poulson, Darby

(*)Ayala - get him back off loan from Hull.

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 19:07:36

Just read on the official LFC.tv forum that yet another ITK has gone on there and said the club will be sold by the 18th October.

Personally, I won't hold my breathe unless Lee on here is correct and we are sold this week like he said.

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 18:59:25

Can anyone explain why roy was brought into steady the ship when Kenny put his name forward?i would have thought this a no brainer.ok roy got fulham playing half decent so what does that mean we should draft in Ian holloway now?PASSION is what L.F.C. has always been about and i doubt roy has any passion since his honeymoon.Kenny on the other hand would have steadied the ship and got the best out of the players we have.

 

 

04 Oct 2010 18:55:22
WHY HAS THERE BEEN SO MANY ANTI MARTIN O NIEL COMMENTS REF BEING POSS OUR NEXT MANAGER. HE ALWAYS HAS HAD A WAY OF PLAYING GOOD SOLID DEFENDERS MAKING THEM VERY DIFFICULT TO BREAK DOWN AT THE BACK SOMETHING WE VERY MUCH LACK AT THE MOMENT.
HE SIGNED WARNOCK, YOUNG, DOWNING & MILNER FOR HIS TEAM ALL GOOD YOUNG ENGLISH PLAYERS WHO WOULD PROVIDE US WITH THE QUALITY WE ARE MISSING IN THE WIDE AREAS IF OUR PREVIOUS MANAGER WOULD HAVE SIGNED THEM INSTEAD OF SOME OF THE DROSS THAT HAVE BEEN AND GONE FROM LFC. M.O.N. GETS TOUTED AS A LONG BALL MANAGER BECAUSE QUITE SIMPLY HE HAS NEVER BEEN ABLE TO AFFORD PLAYERS OF THE QUALITY OF GERRARD, ALONSO & TORRES ETC TO SUPPLEMENT THE ABOVE DEFENSIVE AND WIDE PLAYERS MENTIONED IF SO HE WOULD HAVE BEEN A MUCH MORE SUCCESFUL MANAGER WITH HIS MAN MANAGEMENT & MOTIVATIONAL SKILLS AND WE WOULD NOW BE PRAYING FOR HIM TO BE OUR NEXT MANAGER.
MARCO. {ed's note - just like he had the opportunity at Celtic to play better football you mean? He still played long ball there.}

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 18:52:44

04 Oct 2010 18:34:29

Can there really be a new owner who would clear all the debts, build a new stadium, hugely invest in the team knowing that the best we can achieve this season is 6th place which means no UCL and the money that comes with it, not high chances in the unexplored market, tough to chance to sign high quality players.Its being said that the new owner is a business man if so liverpool will be his biggest gamble,
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Liverpool FC is still making loads of money. Purslow said that over the last year Liverpool have had their best year ever commercially. We are been strangled by the debt caused by the H&G leveraged buyout. So although things are very difficult at the moment on the pitch, we are admired throughout the world, mainly for the principles, ethics and ethos that the club stood for before february 2007.

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 18:48:15
04 Oct 2010 18:21:41
Does anyone know were babel is?

No one knows he's been missing for 3yrs

 

 

04 Oct 2010 18:45:25

04 Oct 2010 18:35:43
Jusy heard that Scot Parker, is looking for a move away from West Ham, and is hoping to move north, good friend of Joe Coles reckons it could go through in Jan window, could be his last chance of a big club.

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Can't see Parker making much difference really. Good premier league player, but don't know how much extra he can give.

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a bit of heart and commitment to the cause, that's what he'd bring.

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COMMITMENT TO THE CAUSE OR COMMITMENT TO ONE LAST BIG PAY DAY?? ?

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 18:37:41

So much negativity.
negative tactics. negative owners. negative body language from players. negative fans. negative accounts.
When will this stop? ?

 

 

04 Oct 2010 18:35:43
Jusy heard that Scot Parker, is looking for a move away from West Ham, and is hoping to move north, good friend of Joe Coles reckons it could go through in Jan window, could be his last chance of a big club.

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Can't see Parker making much difference really. Good premier league player, but don't know how much extra he can give.

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a bit of heart and commitment to the cause, that's what he'd bring.

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 18:27:40
Iverpool have not been as good as Manchester United for years, FACT! So please stop being delusional, you lot don't even compare.

With Arsenal and Chelsea, you can compare as they have won the league in the last 10 years, Liverpool. . nope?

Can any Liverpool fans actually give me a reason why you should begin to think your on the same level?

P.S. no talk of owners or history, as we both have bad owners and we both have history! Also don't bother with petty insults, i.e manure, scrooney or any other pathetic words you wish to say, I am only here to find out why Liverpool fans still hold LFC in the same regards to a team which has been the most successful British team in the last decade at least!

JAMESSS

yeah your right in a way, but i can see utd heading the direction as liverpool the only chance liverpool have is for new owners, and utd need the same, im not sure but your debt is alot more than ours and that's not a dig at yourself, just stating a FACT, ad if city finish in the top four maybe top three, how can utd and liverpool compete with there spending power?

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Can you really see Manchester United PLC failing as a business the way Liverpool have? The main difference is that, the glazers don't want to sell we are actually sound financially and the massive debts that 'we' have. .are infact only the glazer's debt, when they move on the debt will be gone. Also, we will be fine until then as we have such a massive portfolio of commercial enterprise.

Another important difference is that there is a long list of buyers who would snap at MUFC. Even as a United fan, i will say unfortunately LFC seem to scare away potential suitors.

JAMESSS

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 18:21:41
Does anyone know were babel is?

 

 

04 Oct 2010 18:20:48

It is a great site Ed, especially reading other fans views. Opinions are devided to what is happening at our club.Should RH be giving more time? Yes. Should he have been giving the Job in the first place? No. But that is not his fault.IMO Kenny was the man we should have gone for. I don't take this Been out of the game too long. Backed by Roy Evans, Phil Thompson, Ian Rush.He would have done OK.RH was always on a hiding to nothing, especially with the money restrictions. Lets get behind him he is a nice bloke for a cockney. lets not forget Rome wasnt built in a day The one thing i agree with the Ed on, is we have Some great young players not getting a chance, Kelly, Ayala, Pacheco, Suso, Wilson, Mavinga, Wisdom, Shelvey, Coady, Sterling, Amoo, and Ngoo.Lets not forget that Carra, Gerrard , Owen , Fowler, Mcmanaman, Redknapp. were all giving chances and took them. If your good enough, your old enough.We should take an opportunity to blood them, instead of the Greek, Jova, poulsen, Konchesky, Ngog, Lucas, and dare i say Carra.

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 18:16:54

To Big John hope James is OK. .SMF

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 18:15:09
04 Oct 2010 17:54:05
To the editor, please could you clear up wheather it's the 6th or the 15th or some other date for RBS to call in the debt as no-one seems to exactly know?

{Editor's Note: I understand it to be the week of the 11th - therefore the 15th. Are you expecting anything in particular to happen?}

Due to the DD process of potential new owners and the 10 days notice the prem league requires for a takeover to be legal the 15th looks like it ain't happening unless there is to be an anouncment mid-day tomorrow, who knows?

{Editor's Note: The 15th is simply a date when a payment is due.}

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 18:13:59
Get well soon David Fairclough.

 

 

04 Oct 2010 18:13:29

04 Oct 2010 17:41:15

Hi i am lee and someone posted this earlier. expect a press conference this week. . i could imagine wednesday or before or at the latest thursday or friday! everything was fanalised after the new owner(s) have been checked if they are suitable to be the liverpool football club owners and it came back all clear
Many thanks Lee
p.s. i will post something when its happened to prove all the people wrong who clicked unbelievable on saturday!
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so that's all week covered then as you said beginning of week. so what happens friday no press conference all week.
oh youll be back its been delayed bla bla bla . . .heard it all before
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NEGATIVE NEGATIVE NEGATIVE. LIVERPOOL WILL BE TAKEN OVER SOONER OR LATER. WE MUST BE PATIENT.

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 18:09:20

"04 Oct 2010 17:58:20
Just had the worst day of my life at work fukn mancs taking the piss all day even people who don't really follow football have had a pop!
Roy OUT!"

Just say "sticks and stone may break my bones but words will never hurt me". Seriously though, you want a man sacked because you got teased at work?

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 18:08:01

{Editor's Note: If the team do not have the opportunity to stablise then the problems will just continue. Knee jerk reactions and constant changes of directions will leave a bunch of players who do not fit well together.}

I fully agree with that, however I feel it's neccessary to stablise with the younger players/ players that have undoubted quality. Why would you want to stablise a team with some of the dross we have in our team at the moment. I'd believe a massive change will benefit in the long run; build a TEAM for the future with a specific set of targets and a specific style. I wouldn't do a Man City and buy in players year after year.

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 17:58:20
Just had the worst day of my life at work fukn mancs taking the piss all day even people who don't really follow football have had a pop!
Roy OUT!

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 17:55:54

We need to rid ourselves of deadweight! No wonder we are in debt and in such a bad position when we are paying 50k+ a week for s* te like Poulsen.
I'd have a MAJOR clearout next summer and start fresh.

OUT
Poulsen, Konchesky, Skrtel, Jovanovic, Lucas, Johnson, Kyrgiakos, Maxi, Kuyt, Babel, Spearing, Ngog (Loan), Jones, Aurelio and the rest of the below par players (Degen, Plessis etc). I'd probably cash in on Torres unless funds are available to buy adequate back up; there's no point in having a world class striker for half the season. I'd rather have 2 Darren Bent like strikers that would stay fit and be consistent. Carra's time is up as well; time to go sit on the bench.
IN
As for ins, it's not hard to see where we are lacking but deciding which players are suitable is a different matter all together. 2 Natural wingers are mandatory, as is another top notch striker and a centre back. I also feel a decent left back is needed as is a deep lying playmaker/ breaker.
It's time to see the youth brought through- the likes of Shelvey, Ayala, Amoo, Pacheco, Mavinga, Wilson should be playing or ATLEAST on the bench.

I know this is easier said than done and a lot of it depends on the rest of the season (takeover, final position etc) but LFC as a club have gone stale over recent years and it's time for a change in players, style, attitudes, philosophys etc.

YNWA

Editor? Or anyone?

{Editor's Note: If the team do not have the opportunity to stablise then the problems will just continue. Knee jerk reactions and constant changes of directions will leave a bunch of players who do not fit well together.}

 

 

04 Oct 2010 17:55:23

I think everyone on this site is geting ahead of themselves.just because rbs will be taking control soon it doesn't meen we will be sold straight away.the premier league have to be notified of any proposed takeover 10 days in advance, so until we hear anything from them nothing is going 2 happen.i also have to agree that johnson is the worst right back ive ever seen play for liverpool.the signing of poulson was a joke, for 1 we didn't need a dm and 2 he is an apawling player.i have to question whether roy is up for the job for one reason, every liverpool fan knew that mach would be leaving so why didn't roy do the research on the striker we so desperatly need.for me that is poor management.

 

 

04 Oct 2010 17:54:05
To the editor, please could you clear up wheather it's the 6th or the 15th or some other date for RBS to call in the debt as no-one seems to exactly know?

{Editor's Note: I understand it to be the week of the 11th - therefore the 15th. Are you expecting anything in particular to happen?}

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 17:51:04
Iverpool have not been as good as Manchester United for years, FACT! So please stop being delusional, you lot don't even compare.

With Arsenal and Chelsea, you can compare as they have won the league in the last 10 years, Liverpool. . nope?

Can any Liverpool fans actually give me a reason why you should begin to think your on the same level?

P.S. no talk of owners or history, as we both have bad owners and we both have history! Also don't bother with petty insults, i.e manure, scrooney or any other pathetic words you wish to say, I am only here to find out why Liverpool fans still hold LFC in the same regards to a team which has been the most successful British team in the last decade at least!

JAMESSS

yeah your right in a way, but i can see utd heading the direction as liverpool the only chance liverpool have is for new owners, and utd need the same, im not sure but your debt is alot more than ours and that's not a dig at yourself, just stating a FACT, ad if city finish in the top four maybe top three, how can utd and liverpool compete with there spending power?

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 17:48:51

I think RH has just realised what a task he actually has on his hands. Don't get me wrong I think he is a good manager, but that is all he is. . . . .good and this is Liverpool Football Club and we don't do good, we are better than that. I find it hard to think that he is capable of motivating the players and staff and I really think he has an up hill battle to motivate the fans. He reminds me alot of Rafa. . . . he plays players out of position, plays a defensive midfielder at home, show no character or emotion on the bench, and persists with the likes of Lucas, Kuyt and Johnson, who I think has been our worse player this season so far.
I know we are not likely to relieve RH of his services this early in the season. . .but I think if we are going to progress we best off do sooner rather than later.

Scoffa

 

 

04 Oct 2010 17:47:29

YOU'LL NEVER WALK ALONE! LETS MAKE SURE THE TEAM REALISE WE SUPPORT THEM!

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 17:32:48

. .Can't see Parker making much difference really. Good premier league player, but don't know how much extra he can give.

H*cking hell, I can. I'm not saying he's a top player but he's a lot better than what we've got at the moment.

I'll really stick my neck out and even claim he is better than Poulsen. .I know, I know I'll get loads of abuse for doubting Roy's acquisition of a player he thought was the mutts nuts 10 years ago and who he was looking at for Fulham. . FHS.

We're not going to attract any world class players right now so we need to look at who can do a solid job for us. .and he can, for now, in my humble opinion.

Frenchy

 

 

04 Oct 2010 17:30:10
YOU'LL NEVER WALK ALONE! LETS MAKE SURE THE TEAM REALISE WE SUPPORT THEM!

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 17:27:14
Liverpool have not been as good as Manchester United for years, FACT! So please stop being delusional, you lot don't even compare.

With Arsenal and Chelsea, you can compare as they have won the league in the last 10 years, Liverpool. . nope?

Can any Liverpool fans actually give me a reason why you should begin to think your on the same level?

P.S. no talk of owners or history, as we both have bad owners and we both have history! Also don't bother with petty insults, i.e manure, scrooney or any other pathetic words you wish to say, I am only here to find out why Liverpool fans still hold LFC in the same regards to a team which has been the most successful British team in the last decade at least!

JAMESSS

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 17:26:34

Renia
jonhson carragher agger konchesky

kuyt mereles garrard pacheco

shelvey

torres or babel

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 17:17:34

Give pachico a chance, he can't do any worse than the way liverpool have been playin this season.

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 17:04:14

04 Oct 2010 16:50:10
I'm sitting in Schiphol airport with several hours to spare before my flight home, and so I have been reading all of the Rumours and Banter posts.
I am depressed. I should have gone for a few pints instead.
I have been a Liverpool fan for fifty years, and I have never seen, nor could I ever have imagined the club to be in such a sorry state.
To me, the worst part of our current situation is not the money-grabbing US carpetbaggers who have landed our club in such dire financial straits, nor is it a poorly performing team, or a manager that needs a couple of good results. The worst part for me is the lack of support shown by supposed supporters. Whatever happened to YNWA?
"When you walk through a storm hold your head up high".
Get behind the manager, get behind the team, and support them instead of slagging them off. It can't do their morale any good to read some of the distasteful rants that appear on this site. And it really is below the belt to highlight a minor speech impediment. His name is Roy. Use it.

{Editor's Note: If we had a Post of The Day prize, you would be nominated.}

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Absolutely. Well said poster and well said ed.

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 16:50:10
I'm sitting in Schiphol airport with several hours to spare before my flight home, and so I have been reading all of the Rumours and Banter posts.
I am depressed. I should have gone for a few pints instead.
I have been a Liverpool fan for fifty years, and I have never seen, nor could I ever have imagined the club to be in such a sorry state.
To me, the worst part of our current situation is not the money-grabbing US carpetbaggers who have landed our club in such dire financial straits, nor is it a poorly performing team, or a manager that needs a couple of good results. The worst part for me is the lack of support shown by supposed supporters. Whatever happened to YNWA?
"When you walk through a storm hold your head up high".
Get behind the manager, get behind the team, and support them instead of slagging them off. It can't do their morale any good to read some of the distasteful rants that appear on this site. And it really is below the belt to highlight a minor speech impediment. His name is Roy. Use it.

{Editor's Note: If we had a Post of The Day prize, you would be nominated.}

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 16:31:03

04 Oct 2010 15:03:58

I think Lee said he would come back on here sometime the end of this week to gloat as he said the club would be sold sometime early this week, if I remember correctly.


hi i am lee and someone posted the above comment its 1 day into the week. . i have been told an offer had been accepted and they have checked their records on if they would be a good owner and its all gone well so expect a press conference very soon. IT WILL DEFINATELY HAPPEN AND JUST KEEP AN EYE OUT FOR THE NEWS. i myself don't think it will happen today but it will happen THIS WEEK i myself think it will be wednesday or before!
thanks lee

 

 

04 Oct 2010 16:29:05

04 Oct 2010 15:21:21

04 Oct 2010 12:22:24

I have heard on good authority that Martin O'Neil will become Liverpool's next manager , when all the bank takeover talks are agreed.!
Don't know how you all feel about it.
Skrimbo
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DIFFERENT BIDDING PARTIES HAVE DIFFERENT MANAGEMENT OPTIONS. SEVERAL WANT TO GIVE HODGSON A CHANCE, ATLEAST TIL CHRISTMAS. ONE THEN WANTS O'NEIL. ONE WOULD APPOINT MANUEL PELLIGRINI AFTER HODGSON. BUT THERE IS THE POSSIBILTY OF RAFA RETURNING NEXT SUMMER. BUT IF NOTHING HAPPENS ON THE TAKEOVER EXPECT HODGSON TO BE GIVEN 3 MORE GAMES (NEEDING TO WIN ATLEAST 2) AND THEN DALGLISH AND THOMPSON WILL RETURN THE MANAGERIAL POST ATLEAST UNTIL SUMMER.

{Editor's Note: I was just wondering where you find all of this wonderful information?}
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ACTUALLY ONE OF THE EDS SAID SO YESTERDAY. O.K.

{Editor's Note: Astonishing.}

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 16:19:47
This is *h******* speaking
all you **** ***** who think kenny dalglish has lost touch with MODERN GAME? that's total ***** the MODERN ******* GAME! were did that saying come from the only thing different from kennys era the 70s and 80s is the ******* foreign mercenaries who come here and get paid umpteen millions for playing pure ******* ***** that's were the problem lies we maybe have a couple of class foreigners but the rest of them are pure ******* ***** hollier and benitez signed mostly ******* ***** now look at us at least kenny has his finger on the pulse with the signings of wilson and shelvey both his finds so lets get kenny back as manager and see how out of touch he is with the modern game il tell you this he wouldn't stand for that pile of ***** that weve been playing lately it would be a case of shape up or ship out he wouldn't take any nonsense from these players die for the shirt or find another club end of and if you don't like it **** *** back to were you came from

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 16:18:45
If Gerrard gets injured on England duty, you are screwed, you realy are a one man team, have been for years, it will take years to get back to where you were, see ya when you come back.

two points for the above,

1- typical man utd fan lol
2- 110% correct with both the one man team coment, and years to get back to were we were

but i would like to thank you for the last line, you obviously beleive both are clubs are to big to drop so low for too long, i respect your comment/ veiws completly, its all true but not spitefull.

UCCM

 

 

04 Oct 2010 16:18:20

Poulsen is better than Lucas but some of the youngsters are probably better than either and deserve a crack at the first team. I appreciate it would be a tough baptism for them with things going so badly but I am sure they would show more spirit than some of the existing so called proffesionals.

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 16:10:18

"before the derby"

Are you sure he didn't mean the Epsom Derby :-)

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 16:03:06

SICK OF ALL THESE "WE ARE LIVERPOOL LETS GET BEHIND OUR MANAGER" COMMENTS!

the "LIVERPOOL WAY" was lost since H&G and Rafa fallout became public. There is no harmony in the board, and no harmony on the pitch, and even the fans don't agree anymore!

The truth is- Its up to us fans to voice our concerns and force the changes before it gets too late!

Hodgson is not Liverpool Material (it doesn't matter how nice he is or how well spoken).

Lucas/ Poulsen/ Konchesky/ Ngog are not LFC material and we have never had so many below par players starting games for us!


REALITY CHECK FELLOW KOPITES- we need change. Not short term Hodgson change, but radical change.

We should have an interim manager- whether that was Dalglish is a different question. But someone who is LFC through and through who can motivate the lads. . then IF and WHEN the takeover happens we can look at a more permanent manager, someone with something about him. . not sum1 who calls Fergie "SIR"


PINDER SEMBHI YNWA * * * * *

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 16:00:33

Right now I can't help but literally laugh me lungs out as I watch the cartoon show that is my club Liverpool.
Money-grubbing, lying owners who hate each other;footy-clueless execs;a clueless, inept, retarded and puppet so-called manager;disinterested, "we won't be arsed"-players who've resembling deer caught in the headlights and, to top it all, fickle and self-delusional fans whose cyberspace gusto and passion has been far more interesting and eye-catching than anything they've done in-stadia.Ha, ha, ha, ha!Ja, football really is something else, hey.

Even Mr Beans would've been impressed marvelling at this comedy.
Don't get me wrong here.I love LFC;but at the same time I can't help but deride with utter disdain the happenings before me.The self-induced crap performances (thanks to the s* tmost tactics I've ever seen in me life), embarrasing pre and post-match conferences/ comments, dud rallying calls from "senior" players, fans thinking we in disneyland. .ha, ha, ha!That just kills (much FFF's Anelka ban killed him laughter).

Maybe I shouldn't be laughing, but hey, "laughter's the best healer" they say, and it's worked for me.Me pc screen's still intact, haven't missed one single dinner, and definitely haven't decked anyone.
What do you think, ed?Does the fact that I'm amused by all this make me less of a fan?Also, have you ever found yourself deriding the lads' abysmal showing at some time?

Regards,
ANNOYED or AMUSED?

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 15:40:51
Does anyone know what price range Liverpool are being sold for, is it the price of the debt or more, are RBS dictating the sale or the Liverpool board.

{Editor's Note: The owners want to raise as much as they can. Both the owners and the board are seeking buyers. I would guess if £400M was offered now they would take it.}

 

 

04 Oct 2010 15:37:18
AFTER SUNDAY'S RUBBISH (I WAS THERE) THAT PERSON THAT SAID ABOUT GOING TO CITY MY BE WRITE & IT HURTS ME TO SAY THAT.

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 15:21:21

04 Oct 2010 12:22:24

I have heard on good authority that Martin O'Neil will become Liverpool's next manager , when all the bank takeover talks are agreed.!
Don't know how you all feel about it.
Skrimbo
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
DIFFERENT BIDDING PARTIES HAVE DIFFERENT MANAGEMENT OPTIONS. SEVERAL WANT TO GIVE HODGSON A CHANCE, ATLEAST TIL CHRISTMAS. ONE THEN WANTS O'NEIL. ONE WOULD APPOINT MANUEL PELLIGRINI AFTER HODGSON. BUT THERE IS THE POSSIBILTY OF RAFA RETURNING NEXT SUMMER. BUT IF NOTHING HAPPENS ON THE TAKEOVER EXPECT HODGSON TO BE GIVEN 3 MORE GAMES (NEEDING TO WIN ATLEAST 2) AND THEN DALGLISH AND THOMPSON WILL RETURN THE MANAGERIAL POST ATLEAST UNTIL SUMMER.

{Editor's Note: I was just wondering where you find all of this wonderful information?}

 

 

04 Oct 2010 15:21:20
If Gerrard gets injured on England duty, you are screwed, you realy are a one man team, have been for years, it will take years to get back to where you were, see ya when you come back.

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 15:08:45
I know exactly what you mean, , support your team win, lose or draw, top four or relegated, champions league or europa league, insolvent or solvent, good or sh* e, good players or dross players, great manager or woy, wonderful owners or H&G, any way you will be odds on to get re- promoted from the championship, and the parachute payments are quit good these days. Care Free.

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 15:02:40

"04 Oct 2010 14:31:12

Lets all face facts that the job is too big for hodgson. he has come out and said we r in a relegation battle today instead of staying positive and saying we are only 5 points off fourth, this joke of a manager doesn't realise where he is and the history, culture, city, fans and unequaled succes of our wonderful club in this country and in europe. he needs to be sacked sooner rather than later cos lets get it right he was nobodys 2nd 3rd or even 4th choice to be our manager."

Part of that history and culture includes not sacking managers like certain other clubs, something many are proud of.

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 14:44:59
Can i just say no matter how bad things are upstairs we are liverpool we do not boo our players at half time this can't help the morale of the players we should stand by our team in the good times and the very bad the players in the end are responsible for the lackluster performance but we need to get behind them and roy we are liverpool we stand by our team
when we loose win or draw Ren

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 14:35:47
Getting really annoyed with everyone slating torres saying he does not look interested. . How interested would you be playing in a team that makes no goal scoreing chances plays one of our best cm on the wing and plays that gobs* *e poulson i mean come on and im sick to death of hearing the excuse that we have no wingers in the first team. . there are at least three youngsters there who would kill for the chance to make a name for themselves and i firmly believe they would do a hell of a lot better than the s* *e that's playing now ( if that's what you call what there doing now). as i write this i can feel myself getting more and more annoyed about whats going on and can't see where are next win is going to come from imagine if we were playing chelsea yesterday! A VERY VERY ANGRY LIVERPOOL FAN

 

 

04 Oct 2010 14:33:42
What is going on with liverpool?
I work in a school in london and I am a liverpool fan, alot of the kids i spoke to are seriously considering washing there hands with liverpool they can't take the humiliation anymore and to tell you the truth i can't really blame them"2-1 to blackpool at Anfield"
this is not the liverpool i have supported for all these years, its come to a point were i have stopped watching matches now as its to painfull to watch, my liverpool shirt is at the back of the wardrobe collecting dust, when ever football conversation comes up i turn off completley.it is unhappy times being a liverpool fan these days {ed's note - are you for real? I still wear my shirt with pride, I love the club not the glory.}

 

 

04 Oct 2010 14:31:12

Lets all face facts that the job is too big for hodgson. he has come out and said we r in a relegation battle today instead of staying positive and saying we are only 5 points off fourth, this joke of a manager doesn't realise where he is and the history, culture, city, fans and unequaled succes of our wonderful club in this country and in europe. he needs to be sacked sooner rather than later cos lets get it right he was nobodys 2nd 3rd or even 4th choice to be our manager.

 

 

04 Oct 2010 14:31:08
After yesterday Ben Arfa is well qualified to play for this present Liverpool team.

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 14:19:43

Roy doesn't have the time SAF did at Manure to to start along term project, for one thing he is too old, I always took it that Roy Hodgson was a stop-gap man, a man to come and steady the ship, because of experience, but his age meant he was never a serious long term option.

I don't expect to see him sacked, we don't have the cash to waste on that. Once the sale is sorted out then I can see the new owners seeking a new longer term 'dynamic' manager to really take the squad and club forward,

I don't like to hear the negative comments from Roy, like the 'good' results at Birmingham and a 'good' point against Sunderland and Utrecht, he's wrong, these are teams that LFC should be beating, no disrespect, but he must forget his Fulham 'ideals'.

He believes we are in a relegation battle, I don't think that will happen, but why start saying that after 7 games when he earlier claimed he didn't look at the table until at least 10 games had been played?

Negative talk and negative tactics at a negative time for the club will only bring down the morale of everybody around the club. Perhaps that explains the body language of Fernando Torres.

Be positive with your approach and tactics Roy, lets put things behind us get the spirits up, or we could be looking at the Championship!

Yonks Out ASAP please

YNWA

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 14:07:00

Everton and Blackburn await us in October yet i am still not confident in a win for us.
Just goes to show the boards amazing knowledge in replacing Benitez with Hodgson.
Hodgson seems out of his depth whilst O'neil would be a disaster. We can't afford a good manager.
The club can't afford to sack Hodgson and can't get another yes man manager

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 14:03:54

LET TORRES GO IN JANUARY HE'S NOT INTERESTED GET WHAT MONEY WE CAN & BUY SOMEONE WHO WANTS TO PLAY.

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 13:58:24

Team we could have had if we had went for and signed players we were linked with and realistically could have signed.

- - - - - - - REINA- - - - - -

JOHNSON SKRTEL AGGER SALCIDO

- - - - -MEREILES GERRARD- - -

COLE- - - - - - - - - -BEN ARFA

- - - - -VAN DER VAART- - - - -

- - - - - - -TORRES- - - - - - -

JONES, CARRAGHER, AQUILANI, LUCAS, JOVANOVIC, KUYT, RODRIGUEZ

This team would have been up there with the best in the league with the option to push Johnson furthe forward and play Carra or Kelly at RB, also switch cole to left or change with van der vaart to add different dimensions also that bench is strength in depth. I would also have kept Aquilani and not bought Poulson. And if you add to this squad our younger players BABEL, PACHECO, KELLY, SHELVEY, SPEARING, DARBY, NGOG, AMOO, ECCLESTON, INCE, WILSON, AYALA amoung others coming thru and our future would have looked really really bright if not awesome. anyone else notice how good our team could have been if run by a decent board and would have been REALISTIC to achieve? what do you think ed?

{Editor's Note: Van Der Vaart was too expensive an option. Liverpool were only ever linked to Hatem Ben Arfa by the fans - no enquiries were made by the club and the player was never offered to us.}

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 13:51:13
Ed: would u like 2 see this team against everton
reina

kelly agger skrtal mavinga

mereles shelvey

johnson pacheco

gerrard

torres or ngog

i think the players need 2 earn their money , like any other job , if i was on £100.000 aweek , i play my heart out , but all i see is some players want paying for nothing , you do that at work , you won't get paid ynwa {ed's note - I would be happy with that team, though I would probably prefer Amoo on the right wing myself.}

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 13:49:38

Who wants to see roy get booted and see kenny take the reigns for the derby?? i do!

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 13:22:31

It is too early to start shouting for Hodgson's head, but if things do not improve (and quickly), something will have to change.

I, for one, would bring Dalglish and Thompson back into the frame, even if they are just acting on a direct advisory / assistant manager type role, as I am sure neither one of them would have accepted Sunday's performance, quite as 'easily' as Hodgson seems to.

But lets look at the players :
Johnson - He has been at fault in some way for 50% of our goals conceeded this year - Take Sunday as an example - Weak penalty to give away and then plays their striker on side for the second - He is not a quality defender, but he is very good (with the potential to be great) going forward - Strong, quick, can cross well and scores the odd goal - Verdict - either drop him or play him further up the field.

Torres - Fully acknowledge his injury issues, but the guy is just not interested - Cannot wait for January when we can cash in on him and spend the money on someone who cares. - Verdict - play him when he is 100% fit only

Cole - Some great touches / flicks, but only plays 30 mins per game - Would be fantastic in a winning team, but we cannot afford to carry anyone at the moment - Verdict - On the bench - our new 'impact' sub.

Poulsen - Too old, too slow - verdict - Lucas is twice the player!

Jovanovic - Think he is a good buy, but trying too hard - Always looking for the killer pass and / or goal - Comes with an excellent goal scoring record and will chase all day - Verdict - Up front in Torres absence.

Also, we have some real quality young players - Lets give them a chance !

We are short of a left back at the mo - Whats wrong with trying Mavinga - Seen him play numerous times for the reserves and he is class - plus would love to see the like of Amoo and Pacheco given a run in the team, and why is Babel not even being used when we are chasing a game? ?

 

 

04 Oct 2010 13:22:19

"Roy s* t this;roy s* t that"

FFS!Will you get off Roy's back!The man's been in the game for over 30 years, he knows what he's doing.And he's doing as well as he can under the circumstances.Even the editor here knows that, hence why support him.
His signings Konchesky and Poulso will prove bargains of the year.

Moving on, in January I'd like to see two or all of these established prem players, Zamora, Malbranque (for steel in midf.), Steven Hunt, Luke Young and Bentley.

In Woy We Trust

NOLY KONJIG

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 13:04:20

I posted prior to Poulsen's arrival that he definitely wasn't the man Roy should be buying - reknowned for fouls, due to him being too slow and cumbersome, and this was in Serie A, a league that is far slower paced then the Premiership. Yes, he had played under Roy before, and yes he was a decent player then, but Roy he was 21, back then!

I didn't think it was possible, but I'm actually starting to think that even Lucas is a better player . .gee's I need to lie down.

Poulsen isn't the only problem though, the defence is all over the place - Jamie is another season older, and so are his legs, a legend yes, but even legends have their limits.

Johnson hasn't played well all season, however it seems as if he is a permanent fixture, with seemingly no pressure of him loosing his place, he seems satisified to simply go through the motions, knowing his pay cheque, and place in the team will be there next week.

In short the defence is all over the place with no obvious sense of cohesion, it appears that each player has lost faith in his team mate to do their assigned job, expecting that they will make a mistake, or be out of position, they are trying to compensate, and in turn end up not doing their own job - outcome, opposition forwards having easy chances, and Pepe as good as he is can only stop so many.

The midfield is a miss match of square pegs and round holes. We don't have any midfield players who can play wide, and stay wide on either flank. Roy has a glut of midfielders but they all want (or should I say can only), play in the same position, add in his conundrum of Stevie Gerrard being simply one man, who can't play in three positions at once, however, the unbalanced nature of the team makes him attempt the impossible, and in turn is affecting how he is playing.

Striker, and I say striker, because we only have one - Torres, who unfortunately is so frustrated by the teams lack of performance as well as his own just hasn't "clicked" so far, and who knows when he will.

Ngog (who I have time for), unfortunately has simply been thrown to the wolves, expected to play a lone role with which he simply isn't equipped. No width, very little drive and support from midfield, means that anybody playing up front for Liverpool is forced to deal with four defenders on their own . . not even a morphed mutation of Messi, Maradonna, Gascoigne, Pele, Rush, Dalglish, Keegan, Gullitt and Fowler as one player can successfully do that, yet a relatively young average player is expected to?

And we wonder why we have problems.

Roy said he was looking for the "right" striker, yet waits until the last day to try and purchase one, and this "right" striker turns out to be Carlton Cole? Surely Roy, it was obvious to anybody that last season Liverpool struggled because we didn't have strength up front, even as a manager of an opposing team you would have been aware of that, yet for three weeks you postured and gesticulated, I know funds were an issue, an undeniably big issue, but surely between yourself, Purslow and Broughton, some form of strategy plan would have been drawn up whereby strikers were identified, talks in place, and if some funds did become available (as they did 3 days before the window closed), you were ready to strike (no pun intended)? ?

We get quoted £16 Million for Van der Vaart, but Harry procures him for around £7.5 Million, admittedly the lack of Champions League probably meant he would never of come to us any way, but this only goes to highlight what I have also said for years that something is fundamentally wrong with our scouting and player transfer insight, and it has been for years, even under Rafa and Houllier.

Well that's my rant off my chest, it doesn't make our position in the table any better (and the table DOESN'T lie), but if feel slightly less pent up.

C'mon the reds, surely we can beat those toffee munchers!

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 12:43:05
How many of the 93 points left, do you think Liverpool can get, any less then 34 means relegation, at present you won't make it, every team that plays you now thinks, we can get some points hear, why not they have nothing to lose, but you do!its only October and your season is about survival, not even new owners wil not help, they don't play!you had better pray for no injurys, or your f* ked, if your not already!no clubs to big to get relegated. Care Free.

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 12:38:04
Why hasn't there been an update on torres' injury?
a too frustrated to even rant irish LFC fan
LfordRed

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 12:25:34

If Man City still want Torres come January we should try and get a swap deal for Adebayor, Adam Johnson and Bridge or Wright-Phillips as that's what he is worth. Would you go for that as good business ed? anyone else agree? {ed's note - Adam Johnson would not be available, so forget that one. The rest are not good enough and command obscene wages out of our reach.}

 

 

04 Oct 2010 12:25:00

A couple of observations: 1) King Kenny: After being voted the greatest player in the history of the club, there really is NO up-side to the King becoming manager. .he hasn't managed for years and is in my opinion out of touch with the modern game. His reputation can only be tarnished by taking charge. Fair play to him for saying that he would be happy to take any role within the club (including manager) but i really can't see it happening. . stay as a figure head Kenny and convince more top-flight youngsters to join.
2) Let's get behind the team. Yes, it's a terrible start to the campaign and there doesn't seem to be much, if any light at the end of the tunnel. Remember though that we are LIVERPOOL F.C. . just think about that for a moment. .let's support the TEAM. . get behind them, not on their backs. .whilst our history guarantees us nothing, we are still a MASSIVE CLUB. Notice i say "Club" and not "team". Rafa left us in a poor state in my opinion and d*cked us over when he left re: his compo. Some very poor players were bought, some at vastly over-inflated prices and to be fair a few of the players brought in by Roy have not looked up-to-scratch so far (Jovanovic and Poulsen). However the support @ Anfield has often been called "the twelth-man" and it's time that the twelth man turned up again. .Let's hear your voice again! With hard work from the players and staff and a loud support behind the team, we WILL get out of our current predicament. . ANY players that don't want to commit to the cause (i do mean ANY) and any fans for that matter can h*ck off and pot-hunt elsewhere. . our club is BIGGER than all of you . . . . . G SPOT


Well said mate. If only we had more supporters like you.

 

 

04 Oct 2010 12:22:37

I want rafa back i want rafa back

Lets have a manager back that wastes hundreds of million pounds in the transfer market on players like Babel, Rierra, Kuyt, Lucas too name but a few. Who plays so defensive we may not aswell have any strikers. And who blames everyone else for his mistakes. KN*B! !

 

 

04 Oct 2010 12:21:19

I think like most fan roy is totally out of his depth. . it has been muted that players have fell out with him inlcuding gerrard and torres with each other. . roy wants our beloved liverpool to play defensive football. . this is all well and good if you have the players to suit this system but we dont. . Gerrard am sorry is a shadow of himself. why is it that managers seem to play him out of position. yes roy your playing him centre mid but he is an attacking centre mid player not the holding midfield player. . when are you going to wake up! This club at the moment is doing a LEEDS and i worry that January might be to late to do anything about it! This Manager needs to go and needs to go now, he is worse than Souness!

 

 

04 Oct 2010 12:17:53

I just can not see any world class players, wanting to join Liverpool in the jan window, or in the summer, I think it might be time to grind out results, rather then trying to play such attacking football, build from the back, a draws better then a loose, until the team is settled 1 point is better then no points, something tells me hodgson made a big mistake going to Liverpool, who would take the job now, whos capable of turning things round, Liverpool FC your in a long dark tunnel.



I disagree. Look at Man Sh*ty, they attracted alot of players to their club when they did not have champions league football. OK they had to pay players sky high wages, but they came. Liverpool are a far more recognised club than Man Sh*ty will ever be, so get new owners with a bit of clout behind them and I don't see it being an issue.

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 12:13:46

All I hear is Kenny shouldnt damage his legend status by going in as manager! Well Kenny cares more about LFC as an institution than his reputation HE WILL ALWAYS BE A LEGEND and while I don't know if he would be the ideal candidate I will say when Purslow Broughton and Kenny are asked to find a new gaffer and the King thinks he is the best option avialable then NO ARGUMENT. Kenny will make better decisions than those muppets and they appointed Roy who actually makes Rafa look good FFS.

So stop patronising Kenny he is LFC it runs in his veins and if he feels he can do the job then we get behind him 100%



Kenny is a legend but he has been out of the game too long. There are too many players not performing and don't want to be here. They need to knuckle down and get on with it. We are in for a rough ride this season so we need to get behind everyone, including the manager. RH is not a bad manager. You don't become a bad mamager overnight. Things will turn around. GIVE THE GUY A CHANCE.

 

 

04 Oct 2010 12:09:10

{Editor's Note: What "missed payments"?}

It was reported that Liverpool missed a £130 million pound payment to RBS on Friday. I have not heard this myself, I was informed from someone who heard it on talksport this morning and they took great pleasure in telling me along with the fact I need to buy some Blackpool rock. Rival suporters can be g*ts but he is a good friend.

{Editor's Note: I think you have been misled about the £130M>}

 

 

04 Oct 2010 12:08:29

Ed. . . . . i posted earlier today that phil thompson has heard a rumour that the takeover could happen before the derby game. . . . I swear on my bro grave that he said that. . JUST ASK YOURSELF ONE QUESTION. . . . WHY WOULD HE SAY THAT? MR.CLIIPERS. . . . .WALK ON BRO. .

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 11:24:03

Alot of posters don't get it. .

All I hear is Kenny shouldnt damage his legend status by going in as manager! Well Kenny cares more about LFC as an institution than his reputation HE WILL ALWAYS BE A LEGEND and while I don't know if he would be the ideal candidate I will say when Purslow Broughton and Kenny are asked to find a new gaffer and the King thinks he is the best option avialable then NO ARGUMENT. Kenny will make better decisions than those muppets and they appointed Roy who actually makes Rafa look good FFS.

So stop patronising Kenny he is LFC it runs in his veins and if he feels he can do the job then we get behind him 100%

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 11:05:09
I just can not see any world class players, wanting to join Liverpool in the jan window, or in the summer, I think it might be time to grind out results, rather then trying to play such attacking football, build from the back, a draws better then a loose, until the team is settled 1 point is better then no points, something tells me hodgson made a big mistake going to Liverpool, who would take the job now, whos capable of turning things round, Liverpool FC your in a long dark tunnel.

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 10:49:01

I wrote in about not been able to go on LFC website to post my comments thanks for the responce.WE the fans shouldnt be ignored its disgraceful.

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 10:40:58

Hi all
First commenting on this forum, but been reading for a while now. I think the board should come out and say something about where the club is at the moment, its plain to see that the uncertainty with the takeover is effecting everyone at the club, from the manager, players and the fans. It's as if we are so concerned at getting the horrible yanks out that we are forgetting about the football side. we need a lift, come on Broughton tell us something and stop all the negative vibes.
YNWA
Geoff B

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 10:20:18
CMON THE POOL, PULL IT TOGETHER AND WIN OUR NEXT 3 GAMES AT LEAST

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 10:03:36

I want rafa back i want rafa back

 

 

04 Oct 2010 10:02:56

All this talk about who we are going to buy and for how much, is totally futile and a complete waste of time, as we have no money to spend. There is 3 months before the window re-opens and the truth is we will have to sell Torres/ Gerrard to fianace even the cheapest deals; that means bargain basement, not the players being quoted on here. January is a big month for us, because we have to spend to improve the squad in order to avoid relegation, that's the reality and that's how bad things have got. We have to face facts Rafa spent many millions on players that are not good enough to get into the Blackpool team, let alone ours. Get real and stop dreaming.
Reality fRED

 

 

04 Oct 2010 10:01:52
A couple of observations: 1) King Kenny: After being voted the greatest player in the history of the club, there really is NO up-side to the King becoming manager. .he hasn't managed for years and is in my opinion out of touch with the modern game. His reputation can only be tarnished by taking charge. Fair play to him for saying that he would be happy to take any role within the club (including manager) but i really can't see it happening. . stay as a figure head Kenny and convince more top-flight youngsters to join.
2) Let's get behind the team. Yes, it's a terrible start to the campaign and there doesn't seem to be much, if any light at the end of the tunnel. Remember though that we are LIVERPOOL F.C. . just think about that for a moment. .let's support the TEAM. . get behind them, not on their backs. .whilst our history guarantees us nothing, we are still a MASSIVE CLUB. Notice i say "Club" and not "team". Rafa left us in a poor state in my opinion and d*cked us over when he left re: his compo. Some very poor players were bought, some at vastly over-inflated prices and to be fair a few of the players brought in by Roy have not looked up-to-scratch so far (Jovanovic and Poulsen). However the support @ Anfield has often been called "the twelth-man" and it's time that the twelth man turned up again. .Let's hear your voice again! ! With hard work from the players and staff and a loud support behind the team, we WILL get out of our current predicament. . ANY players that don't want to commit to the cause (i do mean ANY) and any fans for that matter can h*ck off and pot-hunt elsewhere. . our club is BIGGER than all of you . . . . . G SPOT

 

 

04 Oct 2010 10:01:48

Lads,
I hate to admit it but its not all Roy's fault. Yes he is out of his depth and hasn't so much lost the locker room as never found it in the first place but the players. . The players are more than just letting us down at the moment and there is not much Roy can do if they don't give a s**t

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 09:56:30
Every body hates this time of year, all the shops start advertising there christmas stuff, and then Liverpool come along and start the pantomime season in October.

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 09:52:25

Ha ha ha why would harry event want to leave spurs and take backwards steps to a backwards run club like liverpool when he is buying the likes of van der vaart and your buying the likes of konchesky? so why'll harry's team ARE playing poor they are still 5th AND enjoing champions league where as your playing poor and in RELEGATION lol so stick to your realistic choices like megson lol

enjoy it while it lasts youll be out of cl and won't qualify again.
then back to mid table.
dont underestamate the wounded animal.
well be back even stronger.
heal the wounds and repair the damage and watch the sleeping gaint rise.

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 09:46:59

"04 Oct 2010 09:32:10

Ha ha ha why would harry event want to leave spurs and take backwards steps to a backwards run club like liverpool when he is buying the likes of van der vaart and your buying the likes of konchesky? so why'll harry's team ARE playing poor they are still 5th AND enjoing champions league where as your playing poor and in RELEGATION lol so stick to your realistic choices like megson lol"

Nurse this man needs a spellcheck. . . STAT!

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 09:40:21

04 Oct 2010 09:28:47

Liverpool are looking to snatch up Real Sociedad starlet Antoine Griezmann. The france u-19 star has impressed many clubs with his performance. Roy was to add some width to his side as he can play on left wing as well as can play as a supporting striker. A 6m bid will be enough to snatch him up.

Roy's not signing anyone in January as he will of been sacked by then if the current form continues. The only thing Roy will be signing is on the dole

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 09:32:10

Ha ha ha why would harry event want to leave spurs and take backwards steps to a backwards run club like liverpool when he is buying the likes of van der vaart and your buying the likes of konchesky? so why'll harry's team ARE playing poor they are still 5th AND enjoing champions league where as your playing poor and in RELEGATION lol so stick to your realistic choices like megson lol

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 09:21:55
Oops, that realy was humiliating, for you, but for the rest of the prem, bloody hillarious, I bet the Everton fans could not sleep for laughthing so much, and the pain will go on for a good while yet, Torres, who would buy him now?and for how much?come to think of it, who would buy Liverpool fc now, how much will it cost an invester, to put together a top 10 team, let alone a top 4 team, Joe Cole, what have you done?you left Chelsea for an extra £10 grand, you mug!I bet Yossa is glad he got out, so lets see, someone comes in buys LFC and then needs to buy a good 15, new top class players, at about £20 Mill each, that alone is £300 Mill, thats not including the price of buying LFC, so if the sale price is £300 mill, that makes a total of £600 Mill, and that's before they make any money back, and comes with no gauruntee of success, any invester must be looking at the risk involved, pride before a fall.

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 09:04:37

ED. . Since the appointment of Souness LFC have got all the big decisions wrong and that worries me regarding sale of club.

* Failure to develop Club stadium etc(look at other clubs who have one 5 UCL+ and then look at us)
* Cantona rejected! Laudrup rejected! C Ronaldo too young £3m! S Aguero unproven £11m! D Alves £8m the list goes on
* We have failed to appoint a manager capable of restoring club and then we allow them years too damage club before taking action
* Broughton and Purslow have brought in Roy and this I feel is a step back and believe me Rafa was bad!

So God knows who will buy us.
I was crushed when we didn't get VDV then he said we were interested so I thought at least we were after the right calibre then Roy said he wasnt interested in VDV I was angry WHY NOT SHOW SOME AMBITION WHY WASTE MORE MONEY ON POULSEN!

ED how do we get this situation resolved? Dont forget Newcastle were for sale and they are a huge club with huge potential yet they couldnt be sold.

Is there a chance we will not be sold? We will not get into the UCL next year another huge revenue loss, and even with investment who will want to come to play for us other than mercanaries?

I fear no club is too big to fail and if you look at the last 20yrs it has been steady decline and now freefall

I will support us even if we play Sunday league but I have no optimism left.

Please someone give me some good LFC news

{Editor's Note: The club is in good shape financially - the problem is simply the amount being taken out to service the debts. If we can be clear of the ownership situation soon, and get debt down to a level that can be managed (preferably nil) I will be happy.}

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 08:43:07
I can't see a win in sight right now, what a waste of time supporting this s* t liverpool side if they play like this every week, Everton are going to run all over us this weekend.we need new owners, manager, new player s in deadwood out(kuyt, lucas, johnson, poulson , maxi, ngog, koncheaky)
god help us

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 08:41:27

Normally I'm a placid middle of the road guy - and I've bit my tongue most weeks -but this week I've had enough.

Poulsen - you are sh*t.

Where were you on Sunday? Because you weren't in the midfield holding role - like you should have been.

I've never seen a more one-dimensional average player playing in a red shirt (and that says something - when you think of Djimi, Igor, Dundee etc etc etc).

4.5m for a player - who is too slow in the tackle, has no vision, plays 90% of balls sideways or backwards, and who can't head the ball.

At a time when we are skint - that has to be the biggest waste of money we have made.

Taxi for Poulsen (and pick up Woy on your way out)!

RedTed

 

 

04 Oct 2010 08:40:34

This is a disgrace yet another loss and a lacklustre display, the teams first half performance was pathetic.uve got to blame the team as much as woy, theres no passion no syncronicity no playing for the badge and most off all the fans.There obviously not responding to woys coaching methods, because we seem to be geting worse with every game.Most of this team was chasing the title 3 season ago and look at us now, how ?Things have got to change rapido and if that means woys on his way and king kenny being brought in, well so be it.If things are left how they are we really could be battling it out for relegation.With the takeover rapidly approaching put kenny in charge and give the club the fans and the players a real lift, kenny can guide us back to the top, even if its just a temporary measure for now.Woy got us playing the worse football ive seen at LFC since Souness was manager.If any one can get the best out off these average players, brought in under rafas regime, its Kenny Dalglish.

I agree with 90% of what you say, but know one knows a takeover is rapidly approaching! This storm could be a lot longer than we are hoping

 

 

04 Oct 2010 08:38:12

If Roy can't the team motivated for the game against Everton and we lose he has to go. And for godsake will he please move Johnson from rightback. If Torres is goingto miss the game through injury put dirk upfront and push johnson to right midfield and lets see what he can do. Pundits say Aquliani was one of our biggest flops and worse buys but at the moment Johnson has got to be in the running for being as bad, 17Mill?? he is absoloutely useless! What do you think Ed. Is Johnson one of our worst buys in recent histroy?

RedDan

{Editor's Note: I think £40M worth of summer spending saw only Kyrgiakos as value for money. £17M or so on Johnson and £20M on Aquilani was not good business. I don't recall which manager was responsible for those buys.}

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 08:19:37

Had enough of the gutted feeling 6 games in anyone else please go roy

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 07:51:06

This is a disgrace yet another loss and a lacklustre display, the teams first half performance was pathetic.uve got to blame the team as much as woy, theres no passion no syncronicity no playing for the badge and most off all the fans.There obviously not responding to woys coaching methods, because we seem to be geting worse with every game.Most of this team was chasing the title 3 season ago and look at us now, how ?Things have got to change rapido and if that means woys on his way and king kenny being brought in, well so be it.If things are left how they are we really could be battling it out for relegation.With the takeover rapidly approaching put kenny in charge and give the club the fans and the players a real lift, kenny can guide us back to the top, even if its just a temporary measure for now.Woy got us playing the worse football ive seen at LFC since Souness was manager.If any one can get the best out off these average players, brought in under rafas regime, its Kenny Dalglish.

 

 

04 Oct 2010 07:28:06
03 Oct 2010 23:39:15

Dickie Di Dohexcellent post long may king kenny reign in our memories an not become a fall guy for our shortcomings this season.
we are in a terrible situation an our only hope is the buy out and new faces in january to lift a club that is now officially on its arse.Roy god bless him is showing signs of strain and if reports are true he doesn't know if he can change the fortunes of the greatest club in the world then i hope he keeps his dignity an doesn't deserve to be hounded out by so called fans - this is liverpool we do not hound out managers and players we support them throu the wind and rain - roy will know if he is the man to restore us or even just to stop the rot as when we get new owners they will want their own man to run the club and this may or may not be roy.
at least after the half time team talk we showed some guts and passion and tried to move the ball quicker - admittedly it was too late and we left ourselves open at the back - but roy's team talk seemed to have an effect.maybe we lay off roy an ask the players to take a long hard look at themselves, how many could say they deserve their huge paypacket this week?

be loud be proud and be red till yer dead

bigg2966


Excellent post mate, spot on!
Irish Kev


The only post on here that I have read that makes any sense! !

Sio LFC

You want to listen to yourself mate & actually believe in what your posting. Hodgson puts the players on the pitch, irrespective if he signed them or not. If he can't get them to pull the finger out now then he never will. He used the excuse of having hard start playing Arsenal, Man City & Man Utd! Well Sunderland & Blackpool aren't hard matches at home. Go into the history books & tell me when we've started so badly then tell me when a new Liverpool boss has started so badly.

The Irish Rover

 

 

04 Oct 2010 07:18:45

To be honest. I think we should get over Torres now. I guess he can never be the player he was on his debut season with liverpool. With the money from his sale we can buy two quality players. Who can add some quality to the team. Dont curse me for this. Its a good business. Even milan sold an injured KAKA to madrid. Just imagine. Wat say Ed.?

{Editor's Note: If he does not want to play for the team it is best that he leaves - and that is true of any player. He is lacking confidence at present but that will come back.}

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 07:06:16

I heard a rumour that Liverpool are a great team. . . maybe in the past! that's what our history is about, greatness! not the present, we're awful to watch at the minute and just can't see any light at the end of the tunnel!

we need to realise and understand that we are an average team with average players with the exception of a couple! we need to start all over again, have a good clear out and get rid of the players that lack passion and willingness to foght for the red shirt week in and week out !

 

 

04 Oct 2010 07:02:32
WE STILL GOTTA GET BEHIND THE TEAM AND MANAGER. I KNOW IT LOOKS BAD BUT KEEP THE FAITH WILL YA GUYS. . . .IF WE WIN OUR NEXT FIVE GAMES WELL YOU WILL ALL BE ON HERE SINGING ROYS PRAISES. I FIND THE 'SO CALLED FANS' ON HERE VERY FICKLE. WE LOSE YOU SLATE THEM WE WIN AND YOU SAY HOW GOOD WE ARE. I AM A LIVERPOOL FC SUPPORTER THAT MEANS I SUPPORT THEM AND THE MANAGER IN THE GOOD TIMES AND ALSO IN THE BAD TIMES (WHICH WE ARE IN THE THE MO). FOOTBALL CAN CHANGE SO QUICKLY SO BARE WITH IT HAVE SOME PATIENCE FOR GODS SAKE. WE COULD SACK HIM AND START A FRESH BUT THERE IS NO GARANTEE THAT THE NEXT MANAGER WILL BE ABLE TO TURN IT ROUND IN 5 - 6 GAMES LIKE YOU ALL EXPECT ROY TOO. WE NEED TO STAY LOYAL AND GET THROUGH THIS CRAPPY TIME AND SEE WHERE WE ARE AT XMAS. . . . ITS A SHAME THAT WERE IN THIS SITUATION BUT HEY YOU HAVE TO TAKE THE ROUGH WITH THE SMOOTH. ED, AM I TALKIIN SENSE OR AM I LOOSIN THE PLOT HERE? ??
{Editor's note - I agree with everything you just sa. Fans need to get behind the club}

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 06:31:23

Just another rant about the whole dire state of our beloved reds. off the pitch. . need i say more. on it, what a load of cr*p. the manager and the players have a lot to answer for. how much more of this do we need to take. the mighty reds, the greatest team in england and one of the biggest in the world has been brought to its knees. please please please lads sort your sh1te out.

 

 

04 Oct 2010 06:18:43

03 Oct 2010 23:29:46

Is it me or does anyone else think that glen Johnson in every match he has something to do with the opponents goal. Look at today's match a penalty foul and matches before that I mean what is he doing press believeable if u think yes.

I agree. I believe that last season alone he cost us 6 points due to sloppiness. He irritates me more than any other player. L19Red
{Editor's note - He also played the the blackpool player onside}

 

 

04 Oct 2010 04:43:37

Rumour doing the rounds is that Hick's and Gillett ar e walking away from the club this week, leaving it in the hands of Broughton to get what ever price he can for the club, basically Auctioning the club to the highrst bidder.
Sheik Maktoum-come on down.

 

 

04 Oct 2010 03:22:30

Ed is it me or have Johnson & carragher been below par?
Personally I tink v shud play this line up n play direct pass n move football:

Reina

Kelly. Carragher. Skrtel. Konchesky.


Meireles. Gerrard.


Cole.
Kuyt. Johnson.
Torres

I tink Johnson doesn't really like defending n his not 2 bad with his left foot or he cud always cut in & shoot wid his right foot!

wot do u think?
{Editor's note - I would push Johnson forward as he cost Liverpool two goals yesterday}

 

 

04 Oct 2010 03:16:18
Roy Hodgson is the experienced Manager, he is vastly experienced across Europe but this is by far the biggest job in England. This follows a successful spell in charge of Fulham where he guided the team to the Europa League Final. He also has International management experience having been in charge of Finland, UAE and Switzerland.

Hodgson has achieved a great deal in his management. One of his most successful periods was as Manager of Swedish side Malmo where he won five consecutive League Titles between 1985 -1990 and there were two domestic cups. He also had an excellent spell as Switzerland Manager where he master minded qualification for the 1994 World Cup, he led them to the knock-out stage before losing to Spain which was a considerable feat with a team like Switzerland.

His biggest appointment was when he became manager of Italian giants Inter Milan in the mid-nineties and he had a decent record at the San Siro including a UEFA Cup Final in 1997. Hodgson's first crack at the Premier League was with Blackburn Rovers who at the time were a club who had just avoided relegation. However a poor start to the following season saw Hodgson sacked.

Spells in Switzerland, Norway, Finland and Italy again before finding himself at Craven Cottage in 2008 charged with keeping them in the Premier League. Fulham looked dead and buried but 12 points from their final five matches saw the Cottagers reach safety on goal difference in what is perhaps Roy Hodgson's greatest achievement in a long managerial career.

Hope he can take liverpool to the bottom of the premiership, into the fire and we can be 12 point behind and bottom of the premiership. We can hope we are bottom of the premiership by december, cause everyone knows the bottom three by then will be the ones going down. We hope he lead us to that bottom position in the premiership and achieve his crowning glory with lfc.

 

 

04 Oct 2010 03:05:53
Riera: Liverpool a sinking ship

we are sinkin, but will the players go down with the ship?

 

 

04 Oct 2010 03:02:33
Hodgson out, hodgson out, if we lose at everton its all over for us, so hodgson out and new man in, hodgson out get anyone else, put sammi in charge, but that fulham idiot should leave.

 

 

04 Oct 2010 02:54:12

The problem Liverpool have is that the playing group is divieded. The best Manager in the world can't get a divided team to play, no matter how good the players. It is up to our primma donnas to stop sooking and do what they are paid to do, play and win games! They have already cost Rafa his job, are damaging Roy's reputation, cost the club millions of punds in lost revenue and then ask us to pay good money to watch that crap! And I mean all the players, even our gods Stevie G and El Nino. Last week Torres set up Stevie to score the second goal and neither even looked at each other or celebrated the goal together. These two formed one of the most lethal partnerships in the world and now they can hardly pass it to each from 5 yards! ! This is our problem and until it is sorted we are in deep trouble.

 

 

04 Oct 2010 02:31:22

04 Oct 2010 00:30:17

Ed. . .if hodgson gets the boot do you think dalglish will get the job (the fans were cheering him name after the game today) or do you think we will get someone else.

{Editor's Note: I don't think he will - he left 19 years agho and has been out of management for 10 years. We need to get behind the team and the manager and just ride this out.}

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i agree but only until, end of November beginning of December whn we got new owners and then get Klinsmann! and can you tell me why babel is not in the team? or bench?
{Editor's note - Maybe he has done something behind scene}

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 02:09:03

Sorry lad i got carried away with my rant just frustraited at the mo that's why no full stops but your right i am chr*st almighty like ha ha ha

golden slumbers . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .


ha ! Good come back mate!
And all those full stops at the end there made up for the lack of em on your previous post so i'm very happy now. Thanks oh Almighty one ha !
Good night to the editors & all,
Role on the bitters, hope Torres will be fit but not holding my breath (i'm bringing me own bog roll to that one).
Cheers,
Irish Kev.

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 01:44:23

What a poor result, got a friend who plays for blackpool said he can't beleive how s* te we are he actually said earlier in the week he fancied a good result against us i should of listend i put a tenner on us winning 2 0. people going on about the manager i agree no need to play with a holding midfielder arsenal don't maybe being in the bottom 3 we will finally come out fighting i hope so but apart from half time the manager can't do nothing bout the shambles the players are being on the pitch they are a disgrace the one thing that gets us working class thru the one thing we have got abouve everybody else is a great club and if and i doubt anyone connected to liverpool read this site they should be playing for the city the fans who pay there wages how can you pay 40 odd quid to go and watch that liverpool players are getting easy money and quite frankly they don't deserve it just a good job they don't live in italy maybe we are being to soft on them but one thing is for i can't stand the yanks for one minute but you can only give the blame to them for the perfomance on the pitch for so long i have had enough i have witnessed mediocre performances for over a year now you can proberly count on 1 hand how many times liverpool have played well in the last 12 months i don't think bringing the kids in as you say is the answear its a massive step up they have to be carefully brought in to the fold ie gerrard carra fowler mcmanaman thompson matteo murphy wright were all brought through slowly with the exception of owen who had a radical progression liverpool are along way of winning the league the best we can hope for is a cup run history counts for nothing in the present. we have been screwed for 18 years by the liverpool board we are in a mess in limbo we have to protest we have to show are strength we have to show we are there we are struggling in this city because of the recession and are escape through good times and bad is our football we pay good money that takes a large chunk of our income which we can bearly afford to follow our team its about time the players who wear the liverpool jersey realise they are playing for us not the board not the manager its about time they stop hideing and pull there finger out there arse i don't care now untill january if there good enough or not cause you can't do anything about it maybe even in january we can't do anything about the playing staff but you cannot tolerate anymore whining arrogant players who think we are the liverpool so we can beat anyone attitude 100% commitment is whats needed play for the people who are paying for you to have agood life there are millions out there who would die to be in your posistion you have a responsibillity to the shirt you are wearing to get out of this mess

golden slumbersYou ever heard of a "full stop" mate :)
Chr*st almighty like



sorry lad i got carried away with my rant just frustraited at the mo that's why no full stops but your right i am chr*st almighty like ha ha ha

golden slumbers . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 01:34:31

What a poor result, got a friend who plays for blackpool said he can't beleive how s* te we are he actually said earlier in the week he fancied a good result against us i should of listend i put a tenner on us winning 2 0. people going on about the manager i agree no need to play with a holding midfielder arsenal don't maybe being in the bottom 3 we will finally come out fighting i hope so but apart from half time the manager can't do nothing bout the shambles the players are being on the pitch they are a disgrace the one thing that gets us working class thru the one thing we have got abouve everybody else is a great club and if and i doubt anyone connected to liverpool read this site they should be playing for the city the fans who pay there wages how can you pay 40 odd quid to go and watch that liverpool players are getting easy money and quite frankly they don't deserve it just a good job they don't live in italy maybe we are being to soft on them but one thing is for i can't stand the yanks for one minute but you can only give the blame to them for the perfomance on the pitch for so long i have had enough i have witnessed mediocre performances for over a year now you can proberly count on 1 hand how many times liverpool have played well in the last 12 months i don't think bringing the kids in as you say is the answear its a massive step up they have to be carefully brought in to the fold ie gerrard carra fowler mcmanaman thompson matteo murphy wright were all brought through slowly with the exception of owen who had a radical progression liverpool are along way of winning the league the best we can hope for is a cup run history counts for nothing in the present. we have been screwed for 18 years by the liverpool board we are in a mess in limbo we have to protest we have to show are strength we have to show we are there we are struggling in this city because of the recession and are escape through good times and bad is our football we pay good money that takes a large chunk of our income which we can bearly afford to follow our team its about time the players who wear the liverpool jersey realise they are playing for us not the board not the manager its about time they stop hideing and pull there finger out there arse i don't care now untill january if there good enough or not cause you can't do anything about it maybe even in january we can't do anything about the playing staff but you cannot tolerate anymore whining arrogant players who think we are the liverpool so we can beat anyone attitude 100% commitment is whats needed play for the people who are paying for you to have agood life there are millions out there who would die to be in your posistion you have a responsibillity to the shirt you are wearing to get out of this mess

golden slumbersYou ever heard of a "full stop" mate :)
Chr*st almighty like

 

 

04 Oct 2010 01:31:02

No one said we are not entitled to our own opinions Kev!

The point was that i have never or intented to be arrogant or ignorant to fellow LFC fans. Which i admit come's across that way.

But we are LFC fans we are thicked skinned and smart!

Blair Mayne YNWA
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Blair,
I haven't noticed any arrogance / ignorance on your part so i'll have to take your word for that mate.
Personally i think Liverpool fans (majority) are some of the most knowledgable out there!
We have our opinions etc but some people go a little too far & try to claim its their way or no way.
They can't possibly be wrong in their own eyes!
That is arrogance & ignorance in my opinion.
I like yourself & all on here have opinions & express them here sometimes but i never tell someone they are wrong (I'll offer evidence to argue my case but that's it) or stupid ie Gazman & to a lesser extent the bloke called Soulman. They come from your side of the fence about Rafa from what i can see but you haven't (that what i've noticed) told a poster or the ed they're wrong or abused them like Gazman did.
So i wouldn't say you're arrogant / ignorant but there is time yet to alter my opinion on that :)
Cheers,
Irish Kev

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 01:30:05
04 Oct 2010 01:08:40

Great post Fabian we both have the same problem somtimes, Fellow LFC fans seem to think we are arrogant. But like i said mate it's just our opinions which i believe we shouldn't be slagged off for because like you says mate "we are intitled to our opinions just like they are theirs

Blair Mayne YNWA"

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You sure yer not related?
Who said you're not entitled to your opinions?
This is an opinion site after all! !
Irish Kev
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No one said we are not entitled to our own opinions Kev!

The point was that i have never or intented to be arrogant or ignorant to fellow LFC fans. Which i admit come's across that way.

But we are LFC fans we are thicked skinned and smart!

Blair Mayne YNWA

I think he means you are responding to your own Fraggle Rock posts

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 01:18:09

What a poor result, got a friend who plays for blackpool said he can't beleive how s* te we are he actually said earlier in the week he fancied a good result against us i should of listend i put a tenner on us winning 2 0. people going on about the manager i agree no need to play with a holding midfielder arsenal don't maybe being in the bottom 3 we will finally come out fighting i hope so but apart from half time the manager can't do nothing bout the shambles the players are being on the pitch they are a disgrace the one thing that gets us working class thru the one thing we have got abouve everybody else is a great club and if and i doubt anyone connected to liverpool read this site they should be playing for the city the fans who pay there wages how can you pay 40 odd quid to go and watch that liverpool players are getting easy money and quite frankly they don't deserve it just a good job they don't live in italy maybe we are being to soft on them but one thing is for i can't stand the yanks for one minute but you can only give the blame to them for the perfomance on the pitch for so long i have had enough i have witnessed mediocre performances for over a year now you can proberly count on 1 hand how many times liverpool have played well in the last 12 months i don't think bringing the kids in as you say is the answear its a massive step up they have to be carefully brought in to the fold ie gerrard carra fowler mcmanaman thompson matteo murphy wright were all brought through slowly with the exception of owen who had a radical progression liverpool are along way of winning the league the best we can hope for is a cup run history counts for nothing in the present. we have been screwed for 18 years by the liverpool board we are in a mess in limbo we have to protest we have to show are strength we have to show we are there we are struggling in this city because of the recession and are escape through good times and bad is our football we pay good money that takes a large chunk of our income which we can bearly afford to follow our team its about time the players who wear the liverpool jersey realise they are playing for us not the board not the manager its about time they stop hideing and pull there finger out there arse i don't care now untill january if there good enough or not cause you can't do anything about it maybe even in january we can't do anything about the playing staff but you cannot tolerate anymore whining arrogant players who think we are the liverpool so we can beat anyone attitude 100% commitment is whats needed play for the people who are paying for you to have agood life there are millions out there who would die to be in your posistion you have a responsibillity to the shirt you are wearing to get out of this mess

golden slumbers

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 01:08:40

Great post Fabian we both have the same problem somtimes, Fellow LFC fans seem to think we are arrogant. But like i said mate it's just our opinions which i believe we shouldn't be slagged off for because like you says mate "we are intitled to our opinions just like they are theirs

Blair Mayne YNWA"

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You sure yer not related?
Who said you're not entitled to your opinions?
This is an opinion site after all! !
Irish Kev
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No one said we are not entitled to our own opinions Kev!

The point was that i have never or intented to be arrogant or ignorant to fellow LFC fans. Which i admit come's across that way.

But we are LFC fans we are thicked skinned and smart!

Blair Mayne YNWA

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 00:50:36

Great post Fabian we both have the same problem somtimes, Fellow LFC fans seem to think we are arrogant. But like i said mate it's just our opinions which i believe we shouldn't be slagged off for because like you says mate "we are intitled to our opinions just like they are theirs

Blair Mayne YNWA"

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You sure yer not related?
Who said you're not entitled to your opinions?
This is an opinion site after all! !
Irish Kev

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 00:31:02

04 Oct 2010 00:08:05

Irish Kev, trust me I have no issue with you at all. As you say this is a site for opinions, I have mine and you have yours. It just happens I don't agree with most of yours, but that doesn't mean I hate you or have any problem with you at all. I understand how I may come across as arrogant, but I just wholeheartedly believe in my opinions and will argue for them until someone presents real evidence or reason to convince me otherwise.

By the way I was born in Belfast, live in Belfast and work in Belfast and have done so all my life. I get a bit irritated when people relate/ compare what has/ is happening here to something it should never be related/ compared to.

Liverpool F C is special always has been, always will be. It cannot be compared to here.

I look forward to our little 'debates'.

Good Luck my friend

Fabian Treezle
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Great post Fabian we both have the same problem somtimes, Fellow LFC fans seem to think we are arrogant. But like i said mate it's just our opinions which i believe we shouldn't be slagged off for because like you says mate "we are intitled to our opinions just like they are theirs

Blair Mayne YNWA"

 

 

04 Oct 2010 00:30:17

Ed. . .if hodgson gets the boot do you think dalglish will get the job (the fans were cheering him name after the game today) or do you think we will get someone else.

{Editor's Note: I don't think he will - he left 19 years agho and has been out of management for 10 years. We need to get behind the team and the manager and just ride this out.}

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 00:17:01

Time to sit Carra. He lacks pace and for the first time ever passion, no hustle. As for Johnson he easily would be the best right winger. Dare I say it, time to cash in on Torres?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 00:08:05

Irish Kev, trust me I have no issue with you at all. As you say this is a site for opinions, I have mine and you have yours. It just happens I don't agree with most of yours, but that doesn't mean I hate you or have any problem with you at all. I understand how I may come across as arrogant, but I just wholeheartedly believe in my opinions and will argue for them until someone presents real evidence or reason to convince me otherwise.

By the way I was born in Belfast, live in Belfast and work in Belfast and have done so all my life. I get a bit irritated when people relate/ compare what has/ is happening here to something it should never be related/ compared to.

Liverpool F C is special always has been, always will be. It cannot be compared to here.

I look forward to our little 'debates'.

Good Luck my friend

Fabian Treezle


Fabian,
So you don't think my Rafa arguments were real evidence or reason to let him go then? ?
On the NI thing, i do apologise if that upset ya but as i said there was 100% no mailce attached to that.
I too, as i said have connection to the place and don't shi* on my own doorstep as such, so sorry if you took offence to that & i mean that genuinely!
It was a comparison i couldn't think of any other way of describing. I don't think anyone who is half involved in the place would / should take any offence to though - its not like i slagged any side od the fence as such - it was an innocent comparison.
Anyway - make of it what you please.
We clearly will never agree with the Rafa thing but lets try to agree on one thing - He is gone now & we as a club need to move on now & throw our support behind the rag tag team we now have left.
Anfield is like a morgue at the recent games (last 10 months) - no offence meant in that comparison either :~)
We need to up the support or the season could be a write off.
But the players need to step up also.
Poulsen for one reminds me of a horse proudly trotting about at a dressage (Again no offence to dressage people with that comparison). No urgency!
But passion & urgency can be brought out of these players with some vocal support sometimes ie Istanbul (No offence yet again).
Cheers & sorry for calling you arrogant Fabian, i'm sure i'll convince you eventually :)
Irish Kev.

 

 

04 Oct 2010 00:07:49

Your taken the k*ss this site is run by utd fans if not give me the ip addrese im fed up with plastic fans get rid of torres and bring in someone that wants to play gerrard will never leave weather we go down or not

mike ynwa

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 00:04:37

To whoever said -
Blair Mayne your a manu fan? here to take the piss

No Big Dunc (Blair Mayne) is a Sunderland fan.
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LOL

Blair Mayne YNWA

PS. It's Newcastle (TOON ARMY).

 

 

04 Oct 2010 00:01:30
Big Roge. .

P.s Remember Reira's comments of the sinking ship, he doesn't seem to far off! !

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I agree! the guy got slaughtered for that statement yet when you look at it now, he was merely stating that we were headed for where we are now!

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 00:01:19

03 Oct 2010 23:49:44
Blair Mayne your a manu fan? here to take the piss
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You found me out now go h*ck off to your MAN'URE site.

Blair (RAT BOY) Mayne YNWA

 

 

04 Oct 2010 00:01:07

Once again ed you think your a god on this site and once again you aint posted my post ............

{Editor's Note: There is a very good reason why your hate and threat filled posts get deleted as you are no doubt aware.}

 

 

 

 

04 Oct 2010 00:00:20
To whoever said -
Blair Mayne your a manu fan? here to take the piss

No Big Dunc (Blair Mayne) is a Sunderland fan.