Liverpool Banter Archive October 04 2013

04 Oct 2013 23:48:35
Welcome home Kenny, welcome home.

Reading some post saying lucas is missing tomorrow. How come?

Cheers

Abundance of yellow cards

05 Oct 2013 00:43:40
Suspended mate. 5 yellow cards.

Cheers. Figured it must be his yellows.

Because he can't play a game without picking up a yellow card. I like Lucas but to get himself 5 yellows already is astonishing

Astonishing isn't the word I would use and he was unlucky with a few off them if I remember right.

05 Oct 2013 13:13:38
The best problem with getting so many yellow cards is that one of these days it's going to red instead!
DM2013

04 Oct 2013 23:02:34
Welcome back King Kenny! Great news!

Just wondering Eds, what exact role will he have at LFC? Is he this new DoF style appointment Ed002 said could be possible or will he be involved in different aspects of the club?

Thanks {Ed001's Note - he is in a non-executive role, in other words no power, just an advisor/figurehead.}

04 Oct 2013 22:32:14
Apparently BR sticking with 3412, and with no decent candidate for RWB other than Hendo, it will likely be Agger stepping into Lucas' shoes as defensive CM, with the other 10 positions unchanged from the past two games:

------------- Mignolet
---- Toure --- Skrtel --- Sakho
Hendo -- Gerrard -- Agger -- Enrique
------------- Moses
-------- Suarez -- Sturridge

Possible Toure could play CM with Agger at CB, but this looks good to me.

Prediction: 2-0 (Moses, Suarez)

I would think it more likely Toure or Henderson play CM with Gerrard than Agger. Guess we'll see soon enough, though- should be interesting.

05 Oct 2013 00:44:48
I have a sneaking suspicion it'll be Sterling at RWB and Hendo in the middle.

04 Oct 2013 21:37:49
Eds, why am I getting pop-ups of interviews with Brenden Rodgers instead of the usual Ladies from Brazil Ads? Most dissapointing! {Ed001's Note - sorry mate, the ladies are busy having Brazilians, they aren't actually Brazilians, or ladies. Well, some are ladies now.}

04 Oct 2013 20:30:59
I'd like to see Hendo replace Lucas in midfield and hopefully Martin Kelly is fit enough to play right wing back.

There are no other options and that is what will happen I think.

04 Oct 2013 18:20:45
I just wondered what my fellow reds think the formation will be against Palace?
Will we play 3 at the back, at home to a side that are struggling to score?
Personally I quite like the formation.
But with Lucas missing should we look at something else?
Just putting it out there. :0)

I think Rodgers thinks this formation is the way forward. So he is going to keep it.
It may look better with Coutinho in the hole. But I have not been overly impressed with it so far.
If he is keeping it, I would prefer Moses on the right tomorrow and Henderson in the centre with Gerrard and Alberto behind the front two.

I think back to a 4-4-2.

Toure at RB, Sakho and Skrtel at CB, Enrique at LB and Henderson in the middle with Gerrard. Sterling on the right wing and Moses on the left wing, with Suarez and Sturidge up front.

And Cissokho on the bench.

Wing backs play there, because henderson has d dicipline he will play there, i'd rather kelly on the right and gerard and alberto in midfield

We could go 442 Henderson and Gerrard in the middle with kolo at RB and I would give Ibe a chance today at Right wing- I feel that sterling has not grasped the opportunities he's been given and Ibe will provide a freshness that we need

04 Oct 2013 16:14:20
We desperately need ‘Top Class’ midfielders. regular internationals. Lucas was never in same league as Alonso. Mascherano and Gerrard, still isn’t and never will be! Nor will Hendo or Allen.If its young with potential the likes of Will Hughes. Oliver Torres(Atletico) and Allan(Udinese) would be ideal. more experienced maybe Ivan Rakitic. Axel Witsel. Inan. Dynamic Central midfielders with ability to pass, tackle, shoot, go past a player and we would dominate teams. we have the strikers and defence…bearing in mind Stevie G getting on and affordability…I’ve too often seen Lucas, Allen outmuscled twisted and turned by average players like Diame, Schneiderlin, Wanyama, Moussa Sissoko…no competition for youe Carricks, Yaya Toure’s, Wilsheres etc…Midfield is and should be the engine room but u need Guile, Craft and endeavour not players who sit back and ‘pass the buck’ as quick as they can!

What about Lallana? He's got prem experience, very good, english. Certainly more proven in a physical league than Oliver Torres.

Hahaahahah Carrick? Wilshire is vastly over rated what does he do? doesn't tackle, doesn't score barely gets assists? He passes his passes and goes round players well sounds quite like our own Joe Allen actually.

I guess some fans have short term memory Bash you must be one of them. Go back and watch the game last year Liverpool vs Man City at Anfield at that point Allen had Yaya Toure in his pocket and Toure had a real tough game that day he even admitted it after the game I guess you forgot about that.

04 Oct 2013 18:48:08
Mate lucas is top class and different to alonso and gerrard and mascherano

Lucas is important to our team!

Abbas lfc

Tend to agree with the theme here although you may be being a bit harsh on our guys but the fact remains that it is an area for improvement for us - poss playing Hendo tomorrow for Lucas will show what he can do in a more favoured role (although more defensive than box to box).

I think Lucas is looking a little off the pace and Gerrard is too so I agree we are looking a little weak DM/CM. The rest of the post is fairly nuts though, imo.

Will Hughes is 17/18 and you think he should replace Lucas - we'd be waiting years for him to be ready and you'd just be complaining still so makes no sense.
Oliver Torres is 18 and plays too far forward to improve DM/CM.
Allan, I've never seen play so I can't comment on him.
Rakitic, fair enough.
Witsel, cost £35m a year ago so no chance we'll be getting him.

Gary Medel and Wanyama would have been good purchases this summer I think in terms of affordability and quality.

Rakitić is oke, good passer and good shoot, but not too fast, and he plays AM at Sevilla so?

04 Oct 2013 13:22:21
Lots of talk about the valuation of Suarez
It's quite simple
He's worth as much as someone is willing to pay
He's worth as little as Liverpool are prepared to accept

Spot on. People seem unable to grasp that you can't just offer a flat estimate like 50 mil.

If Liverpool want more, the club who wants him will pay it. 'Worth' cannot be quantified because it is all relative to those involved.

04 Oct 2013 12:05:16
everybodys predictions for tommorrow? I think 4-0. so it will probably be a smash and grab by palace lol. we should win these

Should be 4 nil.

Will prob be 2 nil at HT, 2-1 at FT.

Hope it's 4 nil though!

04 Oct 2013 00:07:37
I reckon if real madrid really want suarez lfc need to ask for 55 mil plus
I kno ed002 keeps saying it has nothing to do with torres or bales fee but surely everyone knows lfc are in a good position they know they can hold their own even if suarez plays up again and madrid are desparate bcoz benzema is only striker and he's not doing as well as they expect him to if madrid paid 80 mil for bale am sure they can pay 55 for suarez but how do lfc replace him?

Arda turan 30 mil
Benteke 25 mil
Or muriel 15 mil

Konoplyanka is top class but somehow wel go for the other lad yarmenlenko lol he's gud but the other lad is something else

Abbas lfc

Suarez is irreplaceable, his unique style of play makes him a 'one off 'and that is why there has been so much interest in him. The replacements you suggest, although good player they may be, don't have Luis mercurial ability to go past an opponent in tight situations, he really is up there with Ronaldo and Messi. Here's hoping we can keep him as long as possible!

04 Oct 2013 11:00:53
Yooo spot on.
You hate him or like him. But we saw for the first time we scored 3 goals after 6 games. Sturridge needs a player like suarez alongside.
This man is pure Machine. let's keep him and get back to CL.
Two words to real MAdrid.
Hell yeahh,,, {Ed002's Note - You seem unable to grasp that he wants out Harry.}

You say Suarez is irreplacable but that is far from true. There are players of his calibre available. An example would be his name-sake Matias Suarez. A player in a very similar mould, with the ability to take defenders on, very skillful and passionate about the game. If I 'm correct he still plays for Anderlecht and was looking for an opportunity to come to the premier league. Players like Suarez are available for decent prices but there is always a risk attached to them, as there was when we bought Suarez (his ability to do the most bizarre of actions was well documented before we bought him).

Yeah okay, he comes with significant baggage, but there is no other player in world football like him, he has impeccable technique, thinks three steps ahead of everybody else, gets behind the best defenders with his runs, can score or create with either foot and looks like he will do something sublime with the ball every time he touches the ball, wherever he is on the pitch, whether he picks it up deep, is taking a set piece or is in front of goal. I mean, he is a world class jerk but he is also a once in a lifetime kind of talent, he has so many attributes that it would take three or four top class players to replace him

04 Oct 2013 14:57:53
Matiaz suarez was one of ma fav . I have seen him play. But he failed in his Medical.
but if we could get him. he is deadly.

I would prefer Mario Suarez, though he plays in a different position.

We need the little mercenary to score as many goals as possible in the next 3 months so that we can sell him for as much as possible as January.

Practically NO-ONE is irreplaceable. Certain not Suarez.

I have seen perhaps 3 players in the last twenty years who fit the "irreplaceable" tag: Zidane, Scholes, and Stevie G when he was at his peak.