Liverpool Banter Archive April 05 2015

05 Apr 2015 22:13:22
Rodgers isn't good enough. Chelsea beat us 2-0 last year cost us the title and Brendan had a go saying liverpool were only team that tried to win and Chelsea were negative. They beat us 2-0. A draw would have sufficed. and he still hasn't learnt tactically naive

05 Apr 2015 23:39:27
why re we still disuussing last season`s losses when we have bigger issues to deal with this season?

05 Apr 2015 23:54:34
One way or another it could be an interesting summer. I just hope the players play for Rodgers on Wednesday and get us to the semis of the FA Cup.

06 Apr 2015 00:38:40
I no what you mean mighty but they should play for the bloody shirt and pride oh and the wonga they get,crack on stuff Blackburn like we should do (no disrespect to Blackburn) and finish the season with pride.

05 Apr 2015 20:08:02
hi Ed002, re manager list last night thanks for the reply I understand you don't want to answer it to the extent I would like. I to don't get why the obsession is give managers 5 years to fail even though it results driven business I love your saying cut the worm from he apple its so true yet people can't see that they say give him time yet they fail to realise a decent manager could of spent half the money Rodgers has spent on 3 FIRST team players not squad players and we could of challenged again.

but he wastes money again your saying kid in a cndy store and then blames every one and any thing but him self. I a have said from day one it was a job to soon. but I don't realistically no who would be a good choice to replace him I always like rafa but is that what we need? that is why I asked for the list but I totally understand you reasoning cheers

{Ed002's Note - You are welcome Mike.}

05 Apr 2015 22:11:45
Like everybody else, Rodgers saw what Spurs did the previous season with the Bale money - and then he went out and did exactly the same thing!

05 Apr 2015 23:43:37
Which is why he will never learn and we don`t have time for him to figure it ot especially, if he is incapable of learning from his and others` mistakes

05 Apr 2015 19:23:10
Hi Eds/Reds,
Just wondering what your opinions are regarding whether the location of Liverpool FC, hinders our progress? With Sanchez choosing arsenal over us and the fact even with money, attracting good players to mersey side has been pretty difficult for many seasons. Would we have a better team if we were based in London? Also eds, you're probably sick to death of manager questions, but honestly who would you have take the saddle? thanks

{Ed002's Note - London is more attractive to players than most other cities. Would you like me to list this seasons Liverpool squad if they were based in London?

Murat Yakin.}

05 Apr 2015 20:13:30
I think we should pick anfield up and drop it on Stanford bridge that way we would get all the best players and win the leauge and Chelsea would be no more. Hopefully John Terry is in at the time.

05 Apr 2015 20:25:10
lol,very good supermario,very good

05 Apr 2015 21:59:47
Never hurt the 2 Manchester clubs and Manchester is one dull city.

{Ed002's Note - There have been plenty of players who have turned down moves to Manchester.}

05 Apr 2015 23:50:34
Benzema and Zlatan for starters.

06 Apr 2015 01:34:36
It is not the city that can attract players, but the club and the manager.

We are viewed as mid-table, unambitious.
Ask the agents !

06 Apr 2015 10:31:22
Guessing yakin wouldn't be available? That seems to be the case with most good managers.

{Ed002's Note - There will be plenty of Managers moving this summer but Yakin is contracted for another year.}

05 Apr 2015 19:01:36
Just thought I would post something different. Has anybody seen the ticket arrangements for the semi final (assuming we get there!)?

LFC have been allocated 31, 997 tickets for the semi final should they get there.

Prices vary from £33 in the parachute seats to £63. Priority holders get a ticket and then there are going to be three sales for season ticket holders, members and fan card holders.

All tickets are on a first come, first serve basis.

Tickets for priority ticket holders will be available on April 10 from 9am until 8pm from the Anfield ticket office or the booking line. You guys are guaranteed a ticket.

For season ticket holders, members and fan card holders tickets are for sale online only. THERE IS NO BALLOT THIS YEAR due to the short timeframe between the replay and the semi final.

Sale one is from 10am on April 9 until 8am on April 10 and is for those season ticket holders, members or fan card holders who have recorded three or more FA Cup matches this season. You guys would be guaranteed a ticket.

Sale two which is from 10am on April 10 until 8am on April 11 is for season ticket holders who have recorded two or more FA Cup matches this season. Again you guys are also guaranteed a ticket.

Sale three is from 10am April 11 and is for those like me that are members or fan card holders who have recorded two or more FA Cup matches this season. Unfortunately for those like me we would not be guaranteed a ticket. Tickets will be available first come first served on the online ticket system.

Now I wasnt a fan of the ballot, and I understand why the club haven't done one in this instance, but does the above not sound like a spectacularly bad idea. Anybody who has experienced the hopeless frustration and the sheer ball ache of the online ticket system will know where I am coming from. That is going to be an absolute bloody nightmare. You log on at 10.01 and there is almost certhinly going to be an hour long queue. If we beat Blackburn I can foresee next Saturday being a frustrating day. And that's before my national bets all fall before they even reach beechers.

05 Apr 2015 18:39:02
Not sure rafa would be a good choice for the club. Yes he had a bit of success here but he was also backed up very handsomely by the owners.
If he came back, that wouldn't be the case at all. I'm not sure rafa is the type of manager to make do with what he has and develop he players already at the club to bring out the best in them, he seems to be more a chuck money at the problem and sign ready made players.
We need a manager to come in and bring out the full potential in our very talented but under performing squad. Then only buy 1 or 2 players each summer when absolutely essential and the accedemy players can't fill the gaps.

05 Apr 2015 19:37:15
Not sure either he would be a good choice, but to say he was handsomely backed is a bit much. Had he been backed the last couple of years of his reign like Rodgers has been backed he would of faqired allot better

05 Apr 2015 20:23:51
You can set a few restrictions/clauses etc in his contract that his role would be first-team based only with a little extension of duties towards the youth set-up and players wanted.
Don't forget it was him that really started the process of us actually having an academy that started to bring players through to the first team.
He didn't always want ready-made players. There are plenty of names out there that he wanted before they were the world-class players they are today> Ronaldo and Aguero are two that immediately spring to mind. I think he also wanted Ericsson & Jovetic too.

05 Apr 2015 23:56:30
Is Rafa the only manager that can manage LFC or are people just in some kind of timewarp and are incapable of leaving the past where it`s at? He is a control freak who wants total control and was a failure in the transfer market just like BR is as well as forcing Alonso out so why sould we sack one stubborn manager for another who a=has a history of filure with the club? Rafa`s time has gone and frankly, can people just leave him in the past.

05 Apr 2015 17:49:15
Hi to all the EDS and fellow REDS

I am sorry to say that some of the posts sound like they were written by a bunch of school boys arguing in the playground.

Who would we get if FSG sack BR? Some of the candidates mentioned are hilarious. Klinsman, Simeone, Klop. ? Get real, will you?

As long as BR stops going to the media and predicting we'll come 2nd (remember?) we wil be ok. I for one still think we will sneak top4 looking at the other teams' fixtures, but who knows.
Everyone's on about reality checks yet they go on about players or managers that are perhaps, for the moment at least, out of our reach. My hope of top4 included in the above but we've had 2 bad results, just 2. And it ain't over till it's over so keep the faith, stop having a go at players and BR and judge once the fat lady has sung (sorry about that).

Come on Brethren and sisters, keep the faith. And that is someone who lives among Arsenal fans!!! Man, it's torture, but I will endure and hope to triumph! (Sorry again)

YNWA

05 Apr 2015 18:14:07
Why do people think Brendan Rodgers can't be replaced?
There must be a whole load of managers that would be better suited than Rodgers right now.

05 Apr 2015 18:24:39
It has been 2 bad results, but to be honest we were poor against Blackburn and how we managed to win against Swansea is beyond me. The way we´re playing at the moment will result in a streak of poor results.

Even Brendan has stated that we have blown our chances of getting into top4. The same man who promised us the title.

05 Apr 2015 18:56:41
. and why do some fans think LFC's season starts in December or January. Yep, 2 bad games since Christmas, but what happened to the first part of the season!!

05 Apr 2015 20:48:00
Frank de boer

05 Apr 2015 23:10:10
Why does the person who hypothetically replaces Rodgers need to be some internationally known name? He hardly was when he was appointed. I'm no expert on football managers but I suspect there are loads of young, promising managers out there who would fit the bill and most probably have a much bigger CV than Rodgers did at the time.

06 Apr 2015 00:01:17
BR has failed plain and simple. Many act as if he cannot be replaced and that there are no good managers out there or for some, ONLY Rafa can manage here espite being a failure here and a failure in a severely weak Serie A. Frank De Boer and Klopp have more success than BR and that is a act regardless of Klopp`s current issues. I will welcome them because they know what it takes to win trophies and will work within the structure of the club. BR is ripe for the chop and the owners will do that if they see it fit and many here will get over it.

06 Apr 2015 01:44:52
FSG , muddle through, muddle through.

Then suddenly, we are sold.

Then comes the flurry of excuses about 'The Project'.

This is what is happening behind the scenes.

05 Apr 2015 17:26:23
Rodgers to stay.
Committee to go.
Clear out of players not in the managers plans.
Rodgers to be allowed to spend on 2/3 top players.
Give him a season in full control, and see how he gets on.

Red Rum

05 Apr 2015 17:42:52
Why would you give more control to a manager who has failed miserably while spending a s---load of money. And don't blame the committee for the players bought cause he had final approval

05 Apr 2015 17:48:21
I don't think u understand, Liverpool can't attract top players, last season 130m spent with CL football, this season it's very unlikely we will get CL again, but the thing you need to look at is we did have good enough players to get it if we had the right manager, Rodgers made huge mistakes at the start of the season which had us in relegation form, he changed the system which surprised teams, now again he has been found out, and it looks like he's going to be stubborn and stick with the back 3 even though it will be the end of our season, he's playing players out of position because he made serious mistakes with who he brought in in the summer so he's trying to figure out how to get markovic lallana coutinho sterling sturridge all in one team which doesn't work.

You say 2/3 top players it will most likely be Milner delph & ings while utd buy bale and co. I think top 4 could have been easily achievable this season with a different manager in charge, I think it'll be years now untill we're back init.

05 Apr 2015 18:09:17
Good enough is not enough - they have to be better than the players of either Arseanl or united (or city or Chelsea).

Lets say defensively all three teams are not amazing. United have the following attacking players: Rooney, Van Persie, Di Maria, Mata and Falleini (who without checking I can guess he scored more headers than all our team combined this year). Arseanl has Sanchez, Girou, Ramsey, Ozil, Casorela, Wellback (and Walcott and Wilshare when not injured - sorry of all the miss-spelling). We have Sterling, Coutinho, Lallana and Sturridge when he is not injured which is about one third of the league. Not comparable in my view.

I think Arseanl and Manu underperformed early season and between our two meetings with Manu we overperformed.

Yes Sir Alex or Mourinho maybe could have got more from our squad but I am not sure anyone else would. The one place I think we could have done more with our squad was the EL. We should have beaten Basiktash, we shouldn't have left home half of our sqaud for that game. In general I think BR was a bit too careful with resting players at times. I think if Sturridge was fit on Saturday why not starting him. But in the PL our squad was worth 5th place in my view (you could argue BR messed the signings - that is a different story).

{Ed002's Note - You seem to have conveniently forgotten large numbers of attacking players Liverpool have.}

05 Apr 2015 18:09:17
Good enough is not enough - they have to be better than the players of either Arseanl or united (or city or Chelsea).

Lets say defensively all three teams are not amazing. United have the following attacking players: Rooney, Van Persie, Di Maria, Mata and Falleini (who without checking I can guess he scored more headers than all our team combined this year). Arseanl has Sanchez, Girou, Ramsey, Ozil, Casorela, Wellback (and Walcott and Wilshare when not injured - sorry of all the miss-spelling). We have Sterling, Coutinho, Lallana and Sturridge when he is not injured which is about one third of the league. Not comparable in my view.

I think Arseanl and Manu underperformed early season and between our two meetings with Manu we overperformed.

Yes Sir Alex or Mourinho maybe could have got more from our squad but I am not sure anyone else would. The one place I think we could have done more with our squad was the EL. We should have beaten Basiktash, we shouldn't have left home half of our sqaud for that game. In general I think BR was a bit too careful with resting players at times. I think if Sturridge was fit on Saturday why not starting him. But in the PL our squad was worth 5th place in my view (you could argue BR messed the signings - that is a different story).

05 Apr 2015 18:24:49
You on the wind up red rum? Lol

05 Apr 2015 18:31:02
If you believe Rodgers has control of the transfers you are being very naive. We know for sure that several players were not his choice and I expect others fit in the same category. How many times has Rodgers said in the press that we need to bring in quality to strengthen the first team yet we end up with young players with potential.

The thing is there is a criteria which the players must fit to be considered, and even then the committee have to vote on the players to sign. I think it's a little unfair to put the blame on Rodgers when he has to put up with that. No other manager would work under those circumstances. It's a case of the club bringing in players and telling Rodgers to work miracles with them.

It's easy to say Rodgers messed up in the transfer market before the committee was assembled, but in actual fact Rodgers signed only 4 players (Borini, Allen, Coutinho and Sturridge) and 2 of those have turned out to be excellent signings. Borini will sell for same amount we paid for him and Allen would also bring in the majority we spent on him. So did Rodgers really do that badly on his own?

In my opinion, the club have brought in some excellent young players with great potential for the future and I suspect most will have their share of humble pie in a few years time when the likes of Can, Markovic, Moreno etc become very good players. However, it's clear to see that whilst preparing well for the long term future, the club aren't doing the manager or the team any favours by not bringing in the quality needed to challenge at present.

In my opinion, Rodgers should be given a little bit more freedom to strengthen as he would like. Fair enough, if it doesn't work then he has had his chance.

Red Rum

{Ed001's Note - what do you mean only signed 4 players? Are you being serious or is your maths that poor? Borini, Allen, Coutinho, Sturridge, Assaidi, Sahin, Yesil just in his first season. Last season, before the transfer committee was in place, Sakho, Mignolet, Aspas, Ilori, Alberto, Moses, Cissokho, Toure, again more than 4! If you can't see why control of transfers was taken off him, then you need help with more than just your abysmal maths. The man is inept in the transfer market.}

05 Apr 2015 18:58:45
No chance. I wouldn't give BR any more money, and certainly wouldn't trust BR to buy top quality players either.

05 Apr 2015 19:21:38
Assaidi and Yesil were already in place before BR came in were they not? And Sahin was a loan. Therefore, Borini, Allen, Sturridge and Coutinho is 4. The transfer committee was put in place before the following summer when the likes of Sakho, Ilori etc were signed.

Red Rum

06 Apr 2015 00:10:54
Red Rum, yo sound desperate which is killing your argument or quest for giving him the benefit of the doubt while the facts of the matter reveal the contrary. HE IS IN CHARGE OF TRANSFERS! That`s it, no if`s or buts about it. Yesil an Assaidi were signed under his watch and not under KK`s time here so your nfirst notion is false. He is a member of the committee hence, bears as much responsibility as the other members hence, if they the he should as well. He is severely useless in the TW which is why the commitee (a dumb idea) was set up. For me if any money should be given, it should be to another manager armed with a DOF who actually knows what he is doing and not to an inept coach who with a failed system who can`t adapt to the opposition`s tactics and who has blown a quarter BILLION with NOTHING so far to show for it BUT excuses, excuses, excuses.

{Ed001's Note - pointless arguing, he has no idea what he is talking about, the transfer committee did not sign any of the players brought in last summer. Any who thinks a loan, especially one that cost us over £7m, is not a transfer is just wasting everyone's time trying to pretend they know what they are talking about.}

06 Apr 2015 07:03:33
Red rum

Sahin was on loan correct but still cost 4 mil and wages and when Rodgers had him suprise suprise he didn't play him, or played him out of POSITION.

Just because he will get most of the money back for borini doesn't make him a good signing. he's spent most of his time on loan or on the bench.

{Ed001's Note - he ended up costing more like 5.5m with the early getout paid plus wages.}

05 Apr 2015 17:13:07
Fellow reds and eds, other than the manager, which position or area within the club is the most important that needs to change?

05 Apr 2015 18:26:32
Transfer commitee would get the chop first for me.

05 Apr 2015 19:02:34
Transfer policy is a complete and utter shambles.
We spent 20m on markovic when we already had jordon ibe and others available.

16m on mario after rejecting three more prolific and reliable goal scorers.

20m on a lcb, after spending 18m on a lcb the season before.

We left ourselves without a first class striker as partner/backup for sturridge, knowing he was likely to be out with injury for 10 games or more.

Add in overpaying for lallana, who- although a good player- we didn't need half as much as we needed a top striker.

Add in 15m for allen (7m too much), borini, aspas, alberto, ilori- the list of failed or untried signings goes on and on.

And to be fair to br, rafa, roy and kenny all signed their share of poor players.

Over the PL era we have spent an amount not vastly different to man utd on players, and yet our trophy count is woeful in comparison, and our squad has not often had their level of quality in depth, barring a few periods like 2008-9.

The frankly pathetic recruitment strategy is one thing that the club absolutely has to change if we are ever to succeed again.

05 Apr 2015 19:16:41
Mikes, so that would include brendan then? :')

05 Apr 2015 19:24:06
Agree with the above! But, would you hire a manager for the transfers or a DoF? let's say Klopp wants to join but without a director above him, should we accept that or find someone who will work under one? Hypothetically speaking

05 Apr 2015 19:56:15
Yes absolutely

06 Apr 2015 00:14:30
Klopp works with a DOF at Dortmund so he will be a hypocrite doing that and he won`t get the job because the new manager MUST work under one, per FSG. As for transfers, BR`s errors are there for all to see so enumerating them is waste of time hence, if the committee goes then he goes, as Mikey rightfully said.

05 Apr 2015 16:22:40
If BR gets the chop I see only a couple of realistic options :
Jurgen Klinsmann
Laurent Blanc
Diego Simeone

all class acts and history of success

05 Apr 2015 17:18:50
Simeone is not a realistic option

05 Apr 2015 17:22:10
Klinsmann absolutely no way.But as Ed001 said a while back the Americans seem to have a soft spot for him.Think we should wait and see who the DoF is first and take it from there mate.
Barry inLouth

05 Apr 2015 17:27:10
Wish he was but Simeone is not realistic at all

05 Apr 2015 18:48:33
I think Ed001 would have a fit if FSG appointed Klinsmann as head coach and Bruce Arena as Director of Football!

05 Apr 2015 21:15:14
Is Bruce Arena, Tina Arena's dad?

06 Apr 2015 00:17:06
Klinsmann is THE Dictator here in the U.S because they don`t know any better and due to not wanting to leave California he won`t get the job and boy, am I relieved because he is an AWEFUL coach.

05 Apr 2015 15:42:03
I have maintained since BRs appointment that he is not big enough for this club. I don't like him as a manager and all in all nothing much has changed.

He is tactically short of requirements and despite having a decent squad cannot put a viable threat in front of Arsenal,

I do however feel he is an excellent coach and though it will never happen my wish would be to bring Rafa back and use BR as a coach. At he very least bring Rafa back.

There are a lot of good managers out there but we know Rafa and he knows us and the division. He has little to prove. Give him our squad and I know we are top 4 contenders. Let Rogers coach and damn we may even win it. Rafa would have few provisos and we would not need a DoF because we know he can do it.

Either way, let's hope the owners act fast.

05 Apr 2015 17:04:53
Bring Rafa back? Are you sane or having a laugh. Definitely that would be a backward step. Some of the most boring football played when he was last in charge

05 Apr 2015 18:54:45
never out of the top 4??? don't think my sanity is in question here

06 Apr 2015 00:25:01
Footie has changed since then and the Rafa of today (a failure as we speak in a poor Seria A) is not who will need and NEVER will be.

05 Apr 2015 15:10:01
So for me we either need to get a manager with pedigree or a DOF with a footballing brain and a coach like De Boer or any up an coming young coach.

Rodgers will most likely not accept working under a DOF but if FSG let Rodgers run the show again then we are in massive trouble.

We have a massive squad filled with young players so hopefully we FSG bring in somebody who can attract some quality experienced players.

Think about this, LFC this season spent +-£120m on players, we had Champions League on offer but we failed and we ended up with Balotelli.

Think it is quite clear that with Rodgers at the helm we will not be able to sign players who can take us to the next level. He has not as yet and any club can go and find young talented players. That is the only route we can really follow under Rodgers.

Really hoping we can win the FA Cup this season but that should IMO not give FSG reason to allow Rodgers another crack at the whip.

06 Apr 2015 00:26:42
Spot on, Max!

05 Apr 2015 14:17:42
Brendan style will win plenty matches, & in style too, but I fear it won't win us any leagues. We've been found wanting in most of our bigger games this season. I think his tactics solely rely on us being on top, & when we're not, we haven't got a plan. I like the guy, but I think somethings gona have to change.

Im not sure who on earth we could bring in. I've seen the names Klopp & De Boer of course, I've also seen the likes of Rudi Garcia & Lucien Favre mentioned. Can anyone enlighten me on who would be a good fit for us, in our current state?

05 Apr 2015 13:31:47
Hi Eds

keep up the brilliant work.
Mt question is, with a top 4 finish out of the question now, do you expect FSG to sack Rodgers come the summer?

05 Apr 2015 12:53:18
Here's my 2 cents.

The last 20 years have provided the long suffering fans so many false dawns. It seems the last 2 seasons have seen considerable highs and equal and opposite lows.

I've asked the Easter bunny to help us out but not sure if he exists.

On my wish list.

Brendan to learn from his mistakes
Defence to become solid
Attacking players to know where the goal is
Find a new fans favourite who embelishes Liverpool's traditions (possibly Henderson)

It always feels like we are so close to find the final piece of the jigsaw. Let's hope the Easter bunny finds it for us :)

05 Apr 2015 13:15:47
My wish list Rafa back in charge of everything even the academy bore fruits of his knowledge of who to put in there.

05 Apr 2015 14:02:49
Why is everyone so insistent on Rafael Beintez? Bis transfer policy was even more horrendous than Rodgers .
This is a list compiled by BEN on the banter page(respect mate) Josemi, Antonio Nunez, Antonio Barragan, Gabriel Paletta, Miki Roque, Besian Idrizaj, Mark Gonzalez, Paul Anderson, Jan Kromkamp, Nabil El Zhar, Astrit Ajdarevic, Daniele Padelli, Jordy Brouwer, Francisco Manuel Duran, Krisztian Nemeth, Mikel San Jose, Sebastian Leto, Andriy Voronin, Charles Itandje, Lauri Dalla Valle, Diego Cavalieri, Alberto Aquilani, Sotirios Kyrgiakos and of course Milan Jovanovic. Plus johnson moreintes etc.And selling alonso and trying to replace him with Gareth barry plus Robbie Keane
the football in bis reigns was worse than atrocious.And the pl was much easier then arsenal were building their new stadium man utd and Chelsea were the quality no big money Manchester city

Dont get me wrong I've been saying for the past 5 months that rodgers needs to go but rafa benitez is not the answer

05 Apr 2015 15:50:53
Not to mention the hundreds of million Liverpool received from his Champions League exploits year on year.

05 Apr 2015 16:04:34
We won the cl with rafa, and I'll forever love him for it, but what was our league finishes under him?? Any better than at the moment?? Abs not,

05 Apr 2015 16:10:19
You must like watching Thursday night football mate. When Rafa was here we played regularly at the top table of European football, semi finals, finals, even winning it. As for signings, when he was backed by the owners he signed quality such as Torres Alonso, Luis Garcia, Reina, Mascherano etc. When Hicks and Gilett turned gangster he lost lots of other quality players in deals he had set up when they wouldn't back him. He had to go for 2nd and 3rd choices eg Pennant instead of Dani Alves.

As for the list of names you reeled off, most were kids that all the big clubs take a chance on. In fact some of them, such as San Jose and Paletta are carving out good careers abroad.

As for boring football, you obviously missed the week we beat Man Utd and Real Madrid 4 - 1 and 4 - 0 respectively. Yes there were some tight games that you might call boring. Most sensible people would call them being tactically aware against superior teams to prevent being tonked. Spot the difference between that and Rodgers's tactical naivety.

What's not to like about Rafa? A tpp European coach, a proven track record of success, loves the club and, best of all, he's not Rodgers.

05 Apr 2015 16:41:07
How is rafael Benitez doing in Napoli? Please don't bring up his Italian community shield victories.How are napoli doing in the serie a a league which is so bad that it makes my eyes red. People call Benitezs football "tactical aware" However when mourinho employs the same tactics everyone abuses him non stop.what's not to like about rafa- his atrocious transfer record his internal politics his style of football. As i said the quality of the league was much worse then. And you mention alonsos and torress Anybody would get some hits in sux years even Rodgers.
If you are so clinging on to the past then why not get houllier back perhaps carra as defensive coach and let's ksep Gerrard also perhaps resign torres and mascherano. Hopeless

05 Apr 2015 16:54:43
He was backed to such an extent he sold Arbeloa and signed Johnson for 17m 😳

06 Apr 2015 00:39:23
Tatically aware must be the new phrase for parking the bus which Rafa did A LOT in Europe away from home nd played BORING footie till you were blue in the face. He is failing as we speak in Napoli YET you want to replace a failure with another failure. Rafa is now the past along with his blunders and dreadful transfer record (10 players panned out out of over 70 purchases)and should stay there.

05 Apr 2015 12:06:35
Rudi Garcia is the manager we need and bring nainggolan and iturbe with him

05 Apr 2015 11:08:56
I'm glad I was working last night so managed to miss both the game and highlights. I really have no interest in looking either, I knew the game was hopeless when I saw the starting line up and formation.
Anybody still want Brendan (keep flogging that dead horse) Rodgers? Just curious.

05 Apr 2015 11:43:26
I still don't want to see him sacked but some changes are needed. Agreed on the starting line-up, playing our best central midfielder at right wing-back- when it's been tried and failed many times before- was insanity.

05 Apr 2015 12:00:49
You wanna stick with an insane manager toby? Lol

05 Apr 2015 12:17:48
And the changes you want would be made by BR? I doubt it.

05 Apr 2015 12:34:49
BR was under pressure during the holidays, and was close to getting sacked, he changed the system and it worked out for him. since the the Blackburn match, the system has been found out, but he hasn´t done anything to change it. I think he is being to naive, and he keeps tinkering with this 3-4-3/3-5-2 with little to no effect.
If BR needs to be under pressure to perform, then we will never reach 4th. Saying that we want to keep BR, is like accepting mediocrity.
The amount of money spent each season is increasing, yet this is nowhere to be seen on the league table. Spending 120M euro (according to the media) and yet we are regressing, is simply not acceptable.
Simply stating Rodgers out, is not a solution, a replacement is required. At the moment there is no obvious replacement, but I would rather take a chance than accepting 5th or worse.

-Frank de Boer
-Jorge Jesus
-Roger Schmidt
-Lucien Favre

All of these have experience with winning trophies - Something Rodgers doesn´t have. I have no idea if these are realistic targets. Maybe one day Rodgers will come good, but at the moment he isn´t showing progress.

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool spent rather more than €120M - circa £130M in transfer fees plus more than £15M in agent fees, plus signing on fees plau a bunch more.}

05 Apr 2015 13:04:02
If he has changed nothing unless forced to then he won't make any changes on his own now. He is still arrogant and stubborn hence, whatever changes to be made might have to be a change of manager

05 Apr 2015 13:38:44
Lucien Favre is a very good shout. I also like De Boer, Rudi Garcia and Jorge Jesus.

05 Apr 2015 09:28:28
I would like changes to be happening soon and not until the middle of the summer.Rodgers cclearly is for the sack but it would benefit the club more if we got in a replacement sooner though unlikely to happen. We need a new gk that's a given and someone in to sort out our central defence and put the right players in there. Skrtl is our worst defender regardless of what brendan thinks. I would like to see lovren/Sakho/llori given time in pre season to form a central partnership and a top defensive coach in to improve them and organise the entire defence because flannaghan and moreno will turn out outstanding if under the right man. A few players need shipped out at the back
Midfield wise Gerrard is leaving and I presume Allen because he hasn't shown to be good enough. We have lucas and can who are central/defensive midfielders and henderson who will get us a few goals but we need a top midfielder in. I personally would love keiderA, he's an outstanding player when fit and I would bring rossiter in more. We have enough attacking players and playmakers in lallana,continho,sterling and markovic but we need another 20 plus goalscorer in who can play in our system. We have only one top striker in our squad and he's injury prone. Lambert, ballotelli and borini look set for the door or atleast two of them and origi I am totally unconvinced by.
A new manager, dof, the squad trimmed and 3 top players in. And to help fund that I would sell sterling if someone offers 30 plus million. We have young Ibe who will be an outstanding player. Klopp would be a difficult managerial option to get but would my my top choice fall back de boer and the sooner we act the better because man city will be looking for a new manager

05 Apr 2015 10:38:29
Al,

When you say Rodgers is clearly for the sack. I'm not saying I'd agree or disagree, but I think NEUTRALS/MEDIA etc would still think that after last season and (admittedly, "just") 2 months of this he'd be safe for another couple of years and if pressed now they'd collectively say he was one of the safest premiership managers currently.

i honestly think if we sacked him in the summer, it would by far be the summer's biggest talking point. talk of "not giving young british managers a chance" and general amazement all round. i bet ya!

sounds daft in a way but only liverpool fans COULD want brendan out if that makes sense?! whereas someone like pardew at newcastle or harry at qpr, fans of any club would see they were doomed.

generally just saying that what we think is nailed on, everyone else will think BR is doing great and would be surprised.

05 Apr 2015 11:27:27
Dom
I agree with you mate. Pundits and the media have been applauding Rodgers but let's be honest they haven't a clue and love to hype a story. He has failed at everything this season but the outside are oblivious to it. We should only worry about our own club

05 Apr 2015 13:11:48
They have no idea what they are talking about because some of them don't want to be seen as bashing the manager. We know better and we know BR is on the chopping block. He has been a failure and his record so far since he arrived has been poor. You will never hear that from the clueless pundits who do nothing but echo other peolple's spin

04 Apr 2015 13:42:37
Far out please put Sparky on Rodger Dodger. That is the only way we will score today. And stop smiling Dodger we know you have whitened your teeth

05 Apr 2015 08:31:42
I'm not saying Rodgers should be sacked but people saying that changing managers does not lead to success should take a look at Madrid, Chelsea and city and bayern all sack managers who won trophies (not just scored a few goals for one year) and are all still challenging for titles every year.

Perhaps constant managers is a way of the past? Like I said in not saying we should, I'm just saying lol at those who are most successful recently.

05 Apr 2015 09:35:03
Madrid, Chelsea, City and Bayern are all successful teams for a while now. Used to being up there and winning trophies. Liverpool on the other hand are not so it will be much difficult.

05 Apr 2015 10:50:01
Spurs?

05 Apr 2015 12:04:08
All the teams you mention change managers regularly, also have mega bucks owners, who buy whoever the new manager wants, we don`t, so have to work organically and grow over a longer period.

{Ed002's Note - It is always this "how hard done by are Liverpool" - whose owners have backed the managers to buy whoever they want - Liverpool have spent vast amounts of money on players in recent years and change players far more than most other clubs.}

05 Apr 2015 13:31:40
Just to turn it on its head a bit. If we hired the right manager in the first place maybe we wouldn't be changing the players so regularly as we do in the persuit of the "holy grail". There are other issues that need sorting so you don't put the cart before the horse.

05 Apr 2015 06:00:37
I have been in the 'give rodgers one more season' camp if I'm honest, but not any more. I know our options were limited yesterday but hendo not in the middle was horrible. Sterling was so isolated, we were so deep it allowed arsenal to play exactly where they wanted. Yes toure had a shocker, but would lovren do better? We had 3 at the back, two of which you wouldn't pick as starting centre backs, so why not play 4-3-3 with Henderson lucas and Allen trying to break up the middle? Keep coutinho forward, not as a left mid as he was yesterday effectively, we basically ended up playing 5-4-1. Sakho should have man marked giroud, lovren or toure be free, can right back, moreno left back but told to sit back. Then lucas could sit and Henderson and Allen press santi and Ramsay. At least if markovic coutinho and sterling were up at a three we could have a chance of breaking, and troubling mertersacker.

05 Apr 2015 10:04:15
I actually thought we played a lot better in the first half than second personally. not defensively but as you said toure had a shocker and you can't realy account for that as a manager if presumably he was good in training all week. Players were much more free flowing and finding space in the first half And we just got screwed especially in my opinion after the free kick that was a big moment for me!.

The second half arsenal played a hell of a lot worse and sat back and we had no ideas. the space was there to catch them in the first half and bar a sloppy pass from markovic we could have been two or three up at half time. I'm excluding talking about the first 5 minutes as all there is to say is arsenal flew out the box and didn't let us find our feet

05 Apr 2015 13:20:26
They didn't need to chase the game hence sitting back and playin counter attack. We were poor from start to finish and the worst thing was that they didn't have to break a sweat to beat us because BR messed up the tactics by playing a system that teams have figured out and not giving them something else to think about tactically.

04 Apr 2015 23:40:26
For me after the Chelsea two legs in the league cup and the city game, I really thought we were a match for anyone in the league but right now I am really worried going into a cup match with an average championship club, how did it all get to this r has this weakness been there even last year, with us conceding over 50 goals and still coming 2nd only problem this year goals haven't come as easy quality not being replaced has to be the reason.To quote a liverpool legend who has worked with the greatest coaches ever Roy Evans said too many players played out a position.

05 Apr 2015 01:16:12
Simon Mignolet's out of position. He should be playing in the Scottish second division.

05 Apr 2015 08:13:45
I have said it all along that he builds a squad, 2 players for each position and overlooks them and plays a square peg. He brings on a sub and often switches 3 players around to do so. Rant over.

05 Apr 2015 13:22:25
Playing square pegs in round holes must be the trait of a brilliant manager in the PL these days. Lol