Liverpool Banter Archive August 05 2013

 

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05 Aug 2013 22:32:59
So Downing to Newcastle and Skrtel to Napoli

The team is certainly going to be different come the end of the window!

Hope it all gels and we get a good start!

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05 Aug 2013 20:18:06
I know Downing has made clear his desire to stay at the club, but I can't see him getting much game time over aspas, sterling or even ibe if he continues to impress, do the eds think he will leave despite his desire to stay, if the club is so concerned over finances I can see now as the best time to sell him and get a decent fee.

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Weird that the £5m to Newcastle rumour has just surfaced 2 hours later.

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I think he's on a fairly large wage as well.

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05 Aug 2013 21:14:19
Our vice captain should be agger who agrees?

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Yeah, Agger defo, he is awesome. I also think lucas could be a great vice captain. He gets on well with everyone, and he is so efficient, he is a great example.

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Yeh either agger or lucas, they are good players who have been at the club for a long time and are most likely to be starters 99% of the time

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I would have a hard time choosing between them. Co-vice captains? BR should call them in and flip a coin, LOL.

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I'd seriously consider giving it to Lucas.

1. It's more useful to use someone who is likely to be on the pitch.

2. Refs tend to be a bit more lenient towards the captain so maybe he'll pick up less yellow cards.

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05 Aug 2013 20:45:48
Ed 30 would you be happy with Costa, Cisshoko and a CB maybe Papa? {Ed030's Note - Tbh,I would like Costa,Konaplyanka,Cissokho and Papa,Unrealistic but would be brilliant. }

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Would you not fancy that sequereia fella ed030 (spelling) a lot saying he is similar to baines also do you think we will sign a wide player if downing and assaidi is moved on or he maybe thinking he could use johnson and enrique as backup options and use the money on the dm he is wanting to bring in {Ed030's Note - Yeah I would love him at Liverpool,I don't see the deal happening however. }

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If you had to pick one, Ed030, who do you choose- Konopylanka or Costa?

There's something about Konopylanka I really like, but Costa's heading ability (and just general size) would be very handy as well. {Ed030's Note - Ooh,That's tough,Probably Costa only because he is proven in Europe. }

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Absolutely no reason why we can't bring in three of the four and if/when Suarez goes Kono might be an option. But yeah I agree would be absolutely fantastic.

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Fair answer. Not sure myself- suppose I would be happy with either as they both have quality, just different sorts of it.

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I agree with Ed030 that the addition of Costa, Konaplyanka, Cissokho and Papa would be brilliant!
I will even go as far as saying that Suarez will not be required if we add those 4 to the squad.

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How much would konaplyanka cost out of curiosity? {Ed030's Note - Maybe around £17 million as a guess. }

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05 Aug 2013 20:39:48
I think Aspas looks a great player. Considering he is still settling in he's been terrific! It's nice that we've lost the negative posters but kinda sad they aren't eating humble pie now. I'd never heard of Aspas but I have complete faith in what BR is doing. Sure, the odd signing won't work out as planned but that happens to every club. I like the look of Alberto too. let's hope they both do well.

I'll get some stick here but I like Borini. He just needs a goal to give him confidence. Enrique is not for me though. Good player just doesn't suit our style of play in my opinion.

Just sharing as the misses is watching Eastenders and I was losing the will to live :-)

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I agree but I think Enrique is alright

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Whats wrong with Eastenders? Living in Kenya it is a great reminder every day why I don't live in UK anymore! ( yes we get Eastenders via South African TV 4 days a week )

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05 Aug 2013 20:29:05
Eds fellow reds . Do you think that when 1 of the big transfers takes place, it will start the merry go round, say bale goes to Madrid then Rooney, Suarez move to there new clubs .any thoughts {Ed030's Note - Yeah,One big transfer could lead to many. }

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05 Aug 2013 22:04:01
skyrtl now off on a loan?! what we doing loaning people all the time, aqua, carol, reina, cole, skyrtl? Why can't we sell them and get the cash in the bank for signing? Rubbish
Daniellambretta -

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You need to have clubs willing to buy the player for them to be bought.

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As long as they bring in papa I couldn't care less

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When you have players on 100k plus weekly wages there are only a few clubs able to afford them. If you are selling a player who is moving "up" from us it's not a problem. When they're moving "down" we will take a massive hit on fees. Coates will probably be a loan with a view to buy. Possibly Assaidi. Just the way it is. At least now Sterling/Ibe part cover Downing/Assaidi and Wisdom means we don't need Coates replacement.

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05 Aug 2013 21:33:28
A question for Eds and Posters?
What We need to Become a Side that can win Premier League. I taught a winning mentallity rather than a High earning squad with Inflated Price tags. I think current squad with Suarez can Challange for titles as it had enough Quality if they get mentallity right.

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I think the current squad without Suarez can do it.

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05 Aug 2013 21:20:34
Evening all,

For fantasy footballing purposes, Do you (Eds and posters) think we'll start the season with Toure as 1st choice or do we think BR will bring in someone else. {Ed030's Note - I thinks it's possible a new Cb will arrive however I couldn't say when it will be. }

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The team seems to me like were defending as an 11, retaining the ball passing it around and fighting to regain possession when we have lost it. Not letting other teams play there game or control it.

Not sure if this because BR has really made his mark on us now and were playing brilliant or if its the opposition just not been up for it making us look better. we totally outplayed olympiakos on sat. I guess we will have our answer against stoke. if we do the same to them, I think we will go on to do some damage this season.

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05 Aug 2013 19:53:18
Hi all,

Just a thought about not concealing all Pre-season. I wonder how much is down to Mignolet and his hunger and ambition? There could be so many reasons why the team has not conceded such as Toure, Agger, Lucas etc. but Mignolet looks driven to succeed so maybe he is more alert and therefore taking up better starting positions.

Just a thought and no reflection on Pepe who was a great servant to our club. Any thoughts?

Cheers

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I def agree he has such an imposing presence and does look like he is a very determined lad, I really think he will be great for us this season

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Jones played nearly as many minutes as mignolet.

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05 Aug 2013 22:12:55
I fully agree Bryan. For a year or two now I have believed that Pepe was too comfortable and not truly challenged for his spot. Although I believe he always gave his best I simply believe that he lost a bit of his 'mojo' as he always knew he was going to be in, whether we conceded 7 or kept a clean sheet. that's no knock against Reina who is a top bloke and loves the club. One example was of him partying with fans in a bar instead of him going into VIP. It is simply hard to push yourself when your so secure and also difficult for the club to bring in a no.2 who is good enough to push for starting but happy to allow his chances to come few and far between due to being an understudy. Only club who managed it well for me were Chelsea with Cech and Cudicini.
I think Mignolet is out to prove that he is good enough to oust Reina and is playing wih the intensity that goes with that.

Anfield Andy

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Is it me or did it feel like pepe always made it look like he was doing us a favor by staying after Alonso, xabi, masch and torres left. He would always assay things like wanting to be here but on the other hand, didn`t think Liverpool would ever get there. Even after his errors against city and at the emirates where we could have won both games, he came out days after saying that we would not be able to compete with the big boys. And to cron it all, he said this summer that he would leave if Barca came for him and if that didn`t happen, he would extend his contract in spite of being awful for the good part of 2 yrs. I think he was hedging his bets and thought we would bow to his demands and BR called his bluff. Sentiments can only get you so far and you are either w/ us or against us so shipping him out was the right thing to do. Now he`s still running his mouth about Suarez which shows you how bitter and pampered he was when he was here. And the lame persons saying BR did wrong are the same people that would`ve had his head on platter if pepe had left on the final days of the window w/ no replacement. BR has that mean streak that is required by every young manager who cares about his club and players and I`m lovin it.

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05 Aug 2013 19:51:06
A lot of people will proberly disagree, but this is just my opinion,
Suarez can go in my opinion, we already have his replacement at the club in sturridge, and back up in aspas and borini.
Strikers get judged on goals, and rightly so, but there are several things that need to be looked at, like how many chances were created for him, how many did he miss etc. if a striker in a struggling team like aspas last season at celta vigo for example only gets 7/8 goals a season but has put 50/55% of his chances away thens he's been clinical in front of goal surely?increase his chances. Increase his goal scoring. If we create chances every game for our forwards then they will score, no worries about that at all, as proved with sturridge and the boy wonder behind him in continuo, second half of last season. Also proved with Torres in his glory days, how many chances did alonso create in a game with a killer pass. That is something that until coutinho was signed was missing from our game. Lucas is great at what he does, but lacks that creative ability.
Suarez scored some fantastic goals in the first half of last season, goals from nothing, because he had to, because the midfield was getting to grips with a new system, of keeping the ball, how many times did we see the ball go side to side, great for the post match stats but in reality not great on the pitch. This preseason looks and feels so much different, players used to the system, the new players coming in and all looking good in fairness to them, even though the opposition has not been top quality it adds to the confidence. And not conceding a goal means that something is working.
Let Suarez go, take the money and bloody learn from the mistakes we made when we sold Torres and invest it wisely. This year could really be a good year for us, if we carry on where we left off last year, strength in depth in our squad, no European games so plenty of recovery time between games, no fergie at united, no bale getting Tottenham out the rubbish each week, and there's a chance of top 4 this year, a real chance.
50m to spend on 2 maybe 3 quality players, to add to the 4 that have already signed, would be a great summer.

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Top post mate.

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06 Aug 2013 08:41:52
Couldnt have said it better myself, well said. Really excited for the season to start!

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05 Aug 2013 19:48:20
Hi all, this is my first post. Does anyone think that the Papa & Costa deals are being financed by the departure of Suarez? and if Suarez goes to Madrid would it be cash + Alonso? I think if we can add those 3 to our squad and only lose Suarez it won't be bad business. Great site, keep up the good work.

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Hi m8 I don't think they will be no as we looking to sell a few more players I think, but do think he holding things up reason why if he goes then we have to replacing him as such a lot can happen in football the clubs he thought would be falling over themselves for him have not really so stepped up for reason he could end up stuck at Liverpool as he would see it, think he needs to drum up interest as if Liverpool did people would smell weakness bargain price? So we hold out say we don't want to sell etc, thanks my take on things m8 could be very wrong but who knows
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Alonso was one of my favourites but this obsession amongst some fans with ex-players, especially Rafa era, is beyond me. I believe that we have two players for the same position, neither of which excel at this point as the attacking midfielder, being Gerrard and Allen. I still do not believe that these two should be in the team at the same time. The defensive midfielder is covered by Lucas and is not Alonso's forte anyway and he is certainly not an attacking midfielder so what do you do with him?

Andy K

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Nah Costa much better than Remy, has more desire, to achieve. Agree with u Ed030.

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This would be dream business in my opinion, but I just don't see it happening. Potentially Costa and Papa to come in from the money from Suarez but I doubt Alonsi would be used as part of a Suarez deal. Shame!

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Why on earth would you want Alonso back? He was wonderful, but he is past participle. We have sooooooo much to look forward to.

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People should look to the future. These players are part of our rich history but we should learn to live in the now and hope for the future. There`s nothing to be gained looking in the past.

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05 Aug 2013 19:45:20
can't think why we didn't try to get remy I think he would be better than costa {Ed030's Note - I wouldn't want Remy at Liverpool. }

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Sorry but no way would I want him at Liverpool. We could do much better then remy.

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Thing is I think he turned them down in jan for extra 5 k a week to a team very very likely to go down 20, ooo fans or 55, ooo mad Geordies screaming his name, I think he lucky he ended up there, like Newcastle good fans, great night out
Ynwa

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I wouldn't want us to sign a player with that allegation hanging over him - it might not be true but if there's a chance it is I want him nowhere near this club

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05 Aug 2013 19:35:10
Hey Ed's Any news on who the new vice Captin may be? I have a sneky feeling its gunna be Kolo. {Ed030's Note - Nope,No chance it will be Kolo at all,I hope for Agger. }

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Ha! what has kolo done to deserve the vice captaincy? agger or lucas for sure.

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05 Aug 2013 20:26:45
IIRC, Reina, Lucas, Agger, Skrtel and Suarez (I think) have captained the team in individual matches.

It's obviously not going to be Reina anymore. Skrtel isn't first choice and may be leaving so that cuts down his chances a lot, and Suarez has probably nuked his chances even if he does stay.

So Agger or Lucas then. I'd like to see Lucas get it, but for some reason I get the impression that Agger is more vocal.

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We could do much worse, oh we wait we have in Borini. Plus Aspas is unproven.

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05 Aug 2013 22:40:58
would podolski be an option as our wide man as part of the deal, or is he not good enough, I thought he would be a good arsenal but never really got a great run in the team from what I seen, he did look the part when I did watch them, ( I never watched them very often though) what do you think? {Ed030's Note - I don't think Arsenal will offer any players as part of any deal,I may be wrong however. }

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05 Aug 2013 19:28:07
What if we were to test Arsenal and take the £40m + Wilshire, I think could be a decent deal as he could eventually be Stevies replacement like I recon he will in the England set up. Don't think Wenger would want to part with one of his Crown Jewels to a rival club so why should we sell the crying a**e to Arsenal or any EPL team for that matter - sell him abroad and good riddance! {Ed030's Note - Wilshere is a very good player and he would be valued around£30 million and he has injury problems,Arsenal will not offer a package in the region of £70 million pounds. }

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Your words are probably true ed but as BR said Bale is not worth double Arsenals valuation of Suarez so on that basis why not? I know it's all hypothetical but if they want a deal why not try to get something out of it ourselves to settle the selling to a rival debate? {Ed030's Note - They are never going to offer it mate,Comparing Suarez's price to Bale's,It's just like saying Carroll cost £30m and Coutinho cost £8 then Carroll is the better player which is not the case,Sometimes you need to pay over the odds which Real Madrid are doing. }

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I would rather take Carzola, straight swap even {Ed030's Note - You would swap and aging Cazorla worth around £20 million for Suarez who is worth £50+,I know I wouldn't. }

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Then they can forget about Suarez then .maybe bid for Darren bent .no disrespect mr.bent.

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Hey ed not a dig m8 but 30 m for whilshere more like 50 m the way these crazy transfers prices are going joey Barton worth 25 m ha, really hope these big prices come down once FFP kicks in its getting bad
Ynwa {Ed030's Note - I doubt anyone would pay over £35 million for him due to his injury problems. }

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05 Aug 2013 19:26:45
Hi Eds,
just a thought - I regret Liverpool didn`t get Negredo. Was it the money, Rodgers didn`t want him or the player wasn`t interested in the move to Anfield? It can`t be CL. I believe he`ll do great at WHL. Still waiting for two or three good transfers to come to Liverpool. I think players should respect their contracts. If you sign a five year deal, you should spend five years at the club unless both the player and the club agree on the move. I can`t believe a player can say "I`ll stay with you if we get in CL, if not I`m gone". It`s unprofessional. Sell Suarez abroad for 55-60m. I`d be happy with that.

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Are you getting confused, mate.Negredo went to Man City,

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I doubt Negredo will respect his contract when he finds out he's signed for Spurs not City

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Negredo went to City
Soldado went to Spurs

Liverpool showed no interest in paying the money required, hopefully we will bring in some more quality before the window shuts.

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Negredo went to MCFC mate.

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I think the Do's are confusing you mate

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05 Aug 2013 19:25:32
'On a purely footballing side of things, as talented an individual as he is, the problem I find is that everything seems to go through Luis Suarez, ' said the 43-year-old.

'You have this talented player and there is no question about that but does it make the team better?

'I think there is so much hinging on Suarez that it is actually stopping Liverpool from progressing.

That is exactly what I've been thinking well done David James hopefully Rodgers sees this and wakes up, I truly believe the club want him out but are doing a good job at getting the most they can for him. We'll be more fluid with some pacey wide attackers than with just Suarez!

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05 Aug 2013 18:37:57
Hi eds
Just wondering what the latest thoughts and reports on pelosi are? I remember at the start of last season a lot of people felt he could be one of the next ones to have an impact and make a step up and get some game time but then if I remember correctly he was injured. What is happening with him now? Could he provide the cover needed for Lucas if he proves himself?
Thanks

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Pelosi is more of a attacking player, who also has been out injured for a big majority of the season. Hope to see him back soon!

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05 Aug 2013 19:12:34
Only dreaming, but say we won the league this season and arsenal failed to get a champions league place with suarez . how much of a plonker would he look then!

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He probably wouldn't care

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05 Aug 2013 20:18:30
My gut tells me that Arsenal will somehow squeak top 4 again.

But surely Suarez and his people must be looking at Arsenal and wondering how much of an improvement they are over us. Yes, they'll play CL this season, but what about next season and the season after? Player for player they aren't exactly light years ahead of us, and the Suarez chase apart they don't seem all that active in the window so far. Although Arsene has done some reasonably respectable deadline day business the last couple of seasons.

Goalies are about the same. I'd say they have better fullbacks, but equally I don't think Jonno & Enrique are bad players. Vermalen's a good player, but so is Agger, and I'd definitely take Kolo ahead of Mertesacker. Midfield? Well Lucas, Gerrard & Coutinho would (imo) walk into their team, but equally Wilshere and Cazorla would walk into ours, and Ramsey or Arteta would have a respectable chance of getting in too. They have more options up front with Walcott, Podolski and maybe even Giroud who'd play if they were in our team, and probably only Sturridge who'd play in theirs (Suarez is excluded from this analysis, obviously).

Still, as I said, not exactly light years ahead of us.

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I wouldn't care. because if we just won the league I would be to happy thinking bout that then to care what suarez has /will of done.

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05 Aug 2013 19:04:57
Is there a remote possibility of Luis Muriel signing? I know the previous rumours reported were misread from a twitter post and he stated he wished to stay in Udinese, but if we put in a good bid, perhaps both he and Udinese may consider. Looks like a potential gem and a great replacement for Suarez.

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05 Aug 2013 19:04:33
I think LFC are waiting for an offer of 50m to come in for suarez (sooner the better imo) and he will be sent packing, he clearly wants out so I say good riddance, then we will see some frantic weeks ahead but if we can manage to land Eriksen and either Bernard or Yilmaz and a versatile defender then we will be a much stronger team for 13/14
Think Remy was a steal for Newcastle even if they pay 2m for a year long loan
YNWA

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05 Aug 2013 18:57:59
Finally registered their Eds!. Must say had great day at Stevie G testimonial. To see the guy in the flesh was something else. Utter LEGEND
Just noticing a few things at the game is that yes only a friendly but Lucas does not get enough credit for his role. He broke up everything and his positional sense was top class. First touch football, got the ball and kept it moving very good.
Also Dani Agger. top drawer defender. cleared everything. I think himself and Toure if that will be 1st team partnership could become a very accomplished pair.
Our little brazilian maestro. what a talent. literally every 3rd/4th pass he was involved in and was all over the pitch. Class Act to watch
The one thing I was dissappointed was Luis Suarez demenour. He got one of the best receptions when he came on and the crowd showed him that he is still loved here but he would not even put a hand up to salute and recognise the effort made to G him up. I know he wants out but I thought it was bit disrespectful myself and was really dissappointed. I thought he could of shown a bit of class.
I hope the saga will end soon.
On the bright side I think the signs are there. I feel we need the team to believe in themselves now and that the pre season games should really give them lift. All Wins. No goals conceded and Goals throughout the team.

Roll on the Aviva this Saturday . can't wait for it now
Liverpool vs Celtic. Come on you redmen!

Mikey LFC

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05 Aug 2013 18:35:36
Best news of the transfer window so far imo, daniel sturridge is back in full training, I for one rate him very highly, people seem to have forgotten we have him on board and hope he can now stay injury free and we will soon forget suarez ever existed! Anyone else rate sturridge as highly as me, eds I would be interested to know how you all rate him?

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Strrgde is really good but suarez is one class above and you might not be missing him but the goals scored will be.
But I think the squad is better then last year. Aspas is better then downing, alberto is better then jonjo and mignolet is better then reina. Now we need a new CB and a CAM maybee a new LB then we're as ready we can be.

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100% right he's gunna beat Torres' 50 goal record IF he stays fit I can't just feel it

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I think he was incredible last year since he came in. Passing, pace, ball control and a real eye for goal. A few games last year he was just flat out amazing. Consistency will be the key for him, and staying injury free.

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I rated him just as highly before we signed him. Everyone said he was selfish but he should be. And he isn't as bad as Suarez. I think with him in the squad we are a completely different team.

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Sturridge was fantastic and I hope his form from last season continues. Looking at his stats for us last year they were amazing. More goals and assists per minutes when compared to pretty much every other striker I could think of, a very high pass completion percentage, very good strike rate, high number of interceptions for the amount of time played, etc.

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05 Aug 2013 21:03:25
His class, along as the goals come in that's what a strikers job is and he does it well, we need Suarez out of the team ASAP we won our games without him

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05 Aug 2013 21:18:15
sturrbridge is not the answer to our prayers.

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05 Aug 2013 18:21:47
Also why oh why did we not take the money for Skyrtyl last summer when City where sniffing around.

BR is imo making some odd decision at the moment, finicial sense to let Reina go on loan, hmmm we not flush with cash so why spend 9million on a keeper when we already have a world class one, and then send that world class one out on loan, where I beleive (eds can you confirm) we are paying some of his wages. Unless Mignolet is playing for free I don't see how it cost effective to do what has been done. Weird way to treat a player who's been at the club for 8 yrs whilst spouting on that Saurez should stay loyal. Surely Reina and Syrtyl should be just sold, even if below market value, as they will come back next year with a year less on their contracts, thus value reduced anyway. imo as I say.

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Reina's wages are double what Mignolet recieves so even if we are paying any of Reina's we will still be saving money.

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World class keeper - been a long time since we had one of them - Reina has spent most of his Liverpool career as 3rd choice keeper for Spain.
Reina only wants to be sold to Barcelona, he made that very clear to LFC that if Barca came calling he would go, so they had no choice but to buy a younger ( and better ) keeper.

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The Reina thing has been covered quite a lot but, in general, I think if an acceptable offer had come in for either Skrtel or Reina we would have been quite happy to have sold. They didn't, so this is the next best option I think. I'm pretty sure we didn't turn down anyone's bid for them to send them on loan instead.

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Reina was not hugely loyal at all and said he would leave for Barcelona and when they didn't bid imo BR did the right thing and said goodbye. I personally do not think he has wanted to play for LFC since Torres left

And people say he is world class. but is he? He was once but its not like he had 2 or 3 bad matches in a row. its been 2 years for the best part that he has been average. Surely players must be judged on present talent not past glory

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Reina said he wanted to go to barca. should we have waited to see if that materialised before doing anything? Sometimes the manager can just not win. If that had happened there would have been upraor, also we may have had to pay more for SM as they would have realised we were in desperate need of a keeper.
I think BR had no choice once the Barca move did not happen to send him out on loan we could not have someone on the bench earning 100k per week. While we are on it, Reinas 'open letter' pissed me off because he created this situation in the first place. However, I thank him for his service and wish him all the best. I hope for his sake that the Barca move happens next summer.

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And if there are no buyers what can the club do .
I think both club and Pepe might have been expecting Barca to come in for him, BR acted quickly to get a replacement keeper in before his head gets turned by other offers . Barca did n't come in for Reina so had to offload via a loan.
And I do think the loan option maybe better in this case, if Simon struggles throughout the season, we can have Pepe back.

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If you remember correctly redphil the team that season was so poor that my young lad would look a good player amongst them, you might be correct in saying that we should have sold martin at the time but at the time he was one of our best players. lol sounds mental now. lol and jose WAS world class and dipped in form so much that I think only a fresh start could revive his form so wise decision me thinks from our manager.

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06 Aug 2013 06:49:58
The club is focused on next steps.

Stop being hung up on events that have transpired.

I have heard that there is a Muslim saying which preaches that any action is understood to be based on limited knowledge of the day and so the most important issue with regard to longevity is how said events are responded to and dealt with and the knowledge that comes from hindsight.

Sure, it is easy to gripe about proactive measures (or lack of). FSG can be forgiven for numerous blunders that lack proactive action because they have taken reactive measures, which - given their inexperience in football - is required.

It is in essence a steep learning curve and they have responded accordingly.

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05 Aug 2013 18:13:49
Soldado- 26million for a 28 yr old who scored goals in Spain where there are only really 2, possibly 3 decent sides. What are they smoking at white hart lane lmao.

redphil

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Be interesting who scores more between soldado and costa (if we bring him in)

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Are you for real?

Them words might come back to haunt you lad.

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Soldado is a proven goal scorer. He will do well at spurs, that's sad to say!

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Soldado is a good striker and (unfortunately) I think he'll do well for Spurs. Perhaps a bit over the odds on their part, but that's the way it goes sometimes.

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Soldado is a great player! 26m was high for an old player but he is guaranteed to be hit as he is just that good!

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05 Aug 2013 18:09:25
Evening all if costa arrives then suaraz will go as we already have 4 who can play as the lone striker in the system ie suarex sturridge aspas and borini. All of these can play in the wide position too as can costa coutinho sterling alberto and downing . I feel we could too with another centre mid as we only have 4 and 3 of those started the last day with hendo on the bench using one of the forward players in this position leaves us looking lightweight

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05 Aug 2013 17:59:42
Does anyone else think Diego Costa looks a bit older than 24?
With the Falcao age dispute resently, I think it should be looked in to properly before any money changes hands ;-)
Bergen Norway-Red {Ed030's Note - No mate,He should definitely be the age he claims,I don't recall many age disputes from South America bar Falcao. }

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He's just rough. Haha

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I'm sure he delivered me kebab once. If its the same guy he's definitely in his 30s, and an alcoholic

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Tough paper rounds in Brazil you know.

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04 Aug 2013 09:36:35
Eds and reds,
Centre back, left wing-back and left wing-forward.
Are these the likely positions Liverpool are looking to strengthen in? {Ed030's Note - Someone has ocd for the left,I don't think Liverpool play with a wing back,I didn't know left wing forward was a position,Do you mean LW or inside forward? }

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Are we going to look for a wide midfielder if the Echo is correct with the report Downing could be off, feel it leaves us with no true wide players except Sterling and Coutinho

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05 Aug 2013 17:44:53
Fellow reds I think we should all be realistic in terms of what the club will be able to achieve in terms of our strengths and weaknesses.
We will improve our position on last year without Suarez. A lot will depend on what quality is brought in to replace him that will determine top4 or not.
I hate to admit it but I see Chelsea cruising to the title with Man City a close 2nd. Manchester United and the Arse are the only 2 that bar no signings seem to be able to drop out that top 4.
Spurs have bought wisely and their midfield like it or not is the best there is in the EPL even without Bale.
This is the best time LFC have a chance to break into the top 4. With our young wingers I see us opening up a lot of defenses. Sterling and Ibe could win the title for LFC if they are able to realize a lot of their potential this season. A dream maybe but stranger things have happened.

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I hate to say it but Manchester United will win next season's Premiership by 10 to 12 points .

Whether we snatch fourth depends on Brendan's next two signings, even if Suarez stays . He has added depth, now for the quality he has promised . {Ed030's Note - Really,I think without sounding biased United will struggle to make the top 4 with Moyes in charge. }

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In the words of John Henry - wtf is Ritters smoking?

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Ritter, what are you smoking down at the Dale .

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I agree. Definitely see Manchester United struggling, hope we finish above them. After Suarez is out, few decent signings can really propel us up the table!

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United will win the league by 10-12 points?
I don't think so, I think they'll be lucky to finish third

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{Ed030's Note - Really, I think without sounding biased United will struggle to make the top 4 with Moyes in charge. }

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I heard the same thing from a couple of my untied friends ed030. Do you really think Fergie won't interfere if things are going wrong? Its interesting what is happening there, they can't make any decent signings and lost few pre-season . they usually win them all . The{Ed030's Note -No,If you was a manager would you wan't someone interfering,I wouldn't. It's Moyes mate,The fans will want him out soon,He's not good enough to manage United. }

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Utd have a really hard start Swansea for the first game I'd hate that! Michu and bony is gunna be very strong!
I think city have it in bag this year sucha strong squad, I'd say
city by 10/12 points
Utd
Chelsea
Arsenal if they get suarez/Liverpool/Tottenham for 4th if we get off the a good start 3 wins out of 3 beating stoke and utd at anfield teams will overnight be scared to come play us again!

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Ed30 I am shocked lol

Seriously though I think MAN U did well to win it as often as they did as their team was not shockingly good but Moyes is good enough I believe. You can't judge someone as not being good enough surely. How did Fergie start?

While LFC supporters (which I am one) slate Moyes saying he never won anything, for the money and players he did an excellent job!

I don't think they will win title either but I would be very surprised if they did not make top 2-3

Garteh

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For me its Chelsea
man city
man utd
Spurs
LFC
Arsenal

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Wow ed30 a little disrespectful. People are always on my back on this site because I don't think our signings will do anything. Just a little premature to think Utd won't do anything.

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05 Aug 2013 16:53:14
Ed what did you think of Coady first games. {Ed001's Note - he played well coming on from the bench at the weekend. Ran the game after he came on, showed an excellent range of passing and worked well.}

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Glad to see him doing well.

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05 Aug 2013 16:39:25
Hi Eds,

Just want to congratulate you first of all on the huge improvement to the site, but also for giving us pool fans another chance. I follow the various sites you guys have for other clubs and noticed how you stopped answering when the trolling became too much. On that note, I was wondering if you will be making the other sites register only so that you'll start answering questions about other teams as well?

Thanks for your hard work! {Ed002's Note - Thanks. I would expect that we will gradually move the team sites to a registration basis. Perhaps the core "transfer rumours" site will stay a free for all - but I steer clear of that anyway.}

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05 Aug 2013 16:24:52
Hi all, I remember reading once that FSG was planning on offering kenny a backroom role. Was this offered and turned down or just a rumour? If he accepted was he present at gerrards testimonial if he didn't accept was he at the testimonial as Roy and houllier was.
If he wasn't there why not? If you could shed some light please? Hope this makes sense
Thanks {Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any of the answers. Sorry.}

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05 Aug 2013 16:14:03
Imminent bids for Agger and Suarez believed to be from Barca. Surely they can't afford these players, bad news for LFC.

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They would need to sell Cesc to make this happen :)

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Barca are not after Suarez

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They sell a nice bit of chickenat Harvester
But at times it can be a bit little and bitter.
U tool!

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05 Aug 2013 16:12:27
"We've got more potential than them (MU), they have much more belief than us given their win last year. It'll be close.

Zeddicus"

And the award for the most blinkered Liverpool fan goes to Zeddicus (applause). I have never read such nonsense. MU will finish at least 30 points ahead of Liverpool next season. You are weaker than last season. The league title will go to one of City, Chelsea or MU. Then Spurs and Arsenal will battle it out for 4th/5th. Then Liverpool are going for 6th spot at best with Everton, WBA, WHU, Newcastle & Swansea breathing heavily down your neck. Liverpool could finish as low as 10th next season. That's my honest opinion.

Disney's

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If you're a Manchester United fan, talk to me about 10 games into the season and we will see who is more upset with their teams performances. There's no Fergie to win over the refs now. Just wait.

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Don't be daft mate. I think if I am honest we may well finish 5th but could go 1 higher or 1 lower as for 10th I think you are being a little silly

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I'm struggling a bit to see how we have a weaker squad than we did last year? Coutinho and Sturridge significantly strengthen us, Toure is at least the level of the legend that is Carra, Aspas is surely better than an on-loan Carroll, Alberto has much more potential than Shelvey (and fits our system better), and Mignolet looks to be an improvement on Reina. Adding to which Kelly is back in the mix, Ibe and Sterling are a year older, and Allen and Borini are no longer on the treatment table. So how are we weaker in your estimation?

I do agree the top 3 will likely be amongst Chelsea, City, and United, but my guess is that's the likely order of things. Us, Arsenal, and Spurs likely fighting for the 4th-6th, but I see no chance of us finishing tenth.

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Sorry to pee on your bonfire Chicken Little, but MU will not be challenging for the title this year. 3rd at the very best is what you will achieve.

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How about if man united don't finish at least 30 points above Liverpool next season you make a donation to the hillsbourgh fund?
Let's say £1 per point.

MIKEY

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Chicken little
Fergie's gone.
No more Fergie time
No more dubious soft penalties
No more opposition players being sent off
Man Utd's cycle of success is at an end.

Now, why don't you go and infest a Man U site?

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Guys, ask yourself why on earth a gentleman who supports Unartid would waste his time posting on here? its just a windup, the guy is brain dead if he thinks Utd will win anything this year. He doesn't know what we know about Moyesy!

He will bottle every big game, it will only only take losing about 4 games before real panic sets in with United supporters. They will demand Scholes back and Giggs and Fergie, and probably Cantona too!

Its all over for Unartid i'm afraid. The games up, no more freebies from the refs just because they are frightened of fergie.

Let battle commence, can't wait to play em!

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No more opposition players sent off in first half
no more easy HOME games in the FA Cup
no more Webb on speed dial
no more fergie time .

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Cant see man u in the top two,
cant see man u in top three,
can see a big fight for fourth spot .

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Agreed Tel, can realistically see Man U ending up outside the top five! Theuglygeordiegenius

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Are you people for real? If Red Nose was fixing the games in this depth as you claim, don't you think he put Moyes there to continue his "work"?
And anyway he will be behind the scenes arranging this stuff if he wants.
No this is not why this is the beginning of MU's downfall. It is because last year their team was absolutely dreadful, soar in the eye. Does anyone see them with the other teams strengthening to have the same run? Apart from that Moyes is not Ferguson. Ferguson knows everything and everyone inside out. Moyes will need years to arrange the team as he wants and he will need years to convince if he is a title material.
I think this year they will fall below 3rd place, maybe even 5th depending who will they get when they window shuts.

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Really hope the Manchester United bashing doesn't come back to bite us. I am cautiously optimistic about our top 4 chances but have seen too many disappointing campaigns to say too much. Would rather keep things quiet and hopefully let the team do the talking, whilst I do the cheering.

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Nice to see you chose to dismiss the rest of my post, Disney, where I pointed out Whiskeynose's superlative man management skills and his ability to raise average players to be world beaters (much as it stuck in my throat to say so!).

If it weren't for the tragic, horrible events of 24 years ago, I do wonder whether KK would have left as great a legacy as Fergie, as he certainly had the beating of Fergie in the 4/5 seasons they overlapped.

As a previous poster said, let's see where we are after 10-15 games. You'll have to come back here tho, as I don't tend to look at other team's message boards - life's too short.

Z

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05 Aug 2013 16:06:13
Things have gone quiet over our interest in the Ajax pair, are we still interested or do we just don't have the money yet?. kls {Ed002's Note - There has been a fair amount of discussion on the pages already.}

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05 Aug 2013 16:05:26
Do any of the Ed's know when we will find out who the vice captain is? {Ed002's Note - No idea, sorry.}

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Judging by pre season I think it could be Agger

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Agger!
He would get my vote

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05 Aug 2013 16:04:04
Good news Daniel Sturridge is back in the training. Great player

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Awesome! He has that nastiness that we need upfront.

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05 Aug 2013 15:54:35
Not really a rumour sky doing a 50 best decisions vote wot would be everyone's top Liverpool decision? Mine would be the kaiser coming on at half-time in Istanbul totally changed the game in my opinion;)

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No way, that was just correcting the terrible decision of not starting him in the first place.

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KK's decision to splash £35m on Carroll. Great buy. But in all seriousness Houllier giving Gerrard the captaincy when he was still quite young must rank among the best

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Fergies decision to retire is up there for me.
But the best decision ever for me (as a Liverpool fan) is to appoint moyes as his successor.

MIKEY

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Appointing Bob Paisley when Shanks resigned, end of :)

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Oh wot a week that was when fergie retired like winning the prem then moyes getting was like the double got drunk that week I tell ya

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My best decision would be FSG taking over, which saved our beloved club from bankruptcy.

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Good one Mikey .

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When the truth about hboro finaly came out.

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Agreed Mikey. it could have only been bettered if they appointed Martin O'Neil!

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Selling Torres, a crocked lackadaisical striker with an attitude problem. HOW much did they pay us?

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05 Aug 2013 15:31:11
Hi Folks

Not wishing to state the obvious, but the world as I see it. Arsenal are in the process of letting two strikers leave, Wenger appears fairly confident that a replacement is joining. Suarez has stated he wants out. We clearly want him to stay but unless suarez can be persuaded to stay I can't see us keeping an unhappy player and may in the end have to sell to arsenal. Frustrating as it is, it is the system. all clubs, managers and players know the transfer game and how to play it. It appears to be our turn to get the short end of the stick. Now BR is really trying to build something we cannot attract nor afford the mega signings but he has made two or three astute signings. Personally I'm still to be convinced of sturridge to play the leading striker. Aspas looks a good addition but I feel (like everyone else on this site) a full back, centre back and centre forward/wide man still required.

For me success is top four, this will give BR a bigger pool of players to choose from to buy next year. Also we need to be looking to be grooming SG's replacement over the next two years. whoever that may be. Have confidence folks the futures bright the futures no 10 coutinho

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We don`t need BIG signings that much. We need players who will fit the system we play. Barca`s spine is made of players who grew within the system and became world class BECAUSE of it. That`s what we need and that`s what BR is trying to build. Now one or two def wouldn`t hurt but they are not the be all and end all. Dortmund proved that against Real in the CL last season with players that were groomed within Klopp`s ssystem.

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05 Aug 2013 15:28:11
Dalglish, Souness, Hansen, Spackman, Walters, Vignal, Fowler(God), Lawson, Wilson, Kyriakos and of course Alex Miller and the mighty Shankly all had links with that famous ice hockey team. lol. does it really matter, the fact is I love them both equally and will support both til I die, YNWA. my beloved Liverpool and Rangers will both be league champions at the end of this season, put your money on that double people .

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There is no way Liverpool will be champions, sorry.

and the bookies don't take bets on sunday league football.

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05 Aug 2013 15:06:59
Siquiera or Cissokho?

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Siquiera would give you a better scrabble score :)

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Cissokho all day!

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17 points each

unless you are thinking of laying the Q on a double letter?

:)

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Pah!

I believe, our kid, that you are referring to the scoring convention as per the Vegas Rules Agreement in 1967.

The one and only proper scoring system for Scrabble (or Ye Olde Scrabblee) originates in Halifax c1897 which would yield you 29 points for Siquiera and only 14 points for Cissokho.

I live but to teach and spread the Ye Olde Scrabblee word(e).

:)

Z

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Siqueira

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Zeddicus, good to see another dismisser of the the Vegas Rules Agreement here. Fancy a game of ye olde scrabblee?

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Absolutely hilarious, where is the like button?

And I now also know why we have been after players like Mkhitaryan and Papadopoulos. Only problem is that the other clubs value the players after same system. Seems like it's the big thing in now. Looking foeward to the movie Scrablee ball.

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04 Aug 2013 21:50:24
Evening eds, hope you are well.

Just wanted to ask if any of you knew how the progress of Jordan Rossiter was coming along?

As we know he's been touted as the 'next Steven Gerrard' and if he does actually fullfill that expectation, he would probably be ready to fight his way into the first team by the time Stevie G retires given his age imo {Ed001's Note - excellent, he has been pushed up a couple of age levels and is finding his feet nicely. There is still every chance he will be a big star for us.}

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Should be very careful with him tho! With all the hype.
Hope he lives up to that, then we have real gem in our hands!

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05 Aug 2013 14:48:35
Did anyone else see the tweet from John Henry on 24th July?

"What do you think they're smoking over there at Emirates?"

Does this mean JWH won't sell to the gunners? Hope so.

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Nope, I do believe that means that JH won't sell to the Gunners for £40,000, 001, however.

His comment, imho, was more about how schneidy (is that a word?!) the Gooners were being in trying to play smart ar$e with the price (thinking they knew the wording of the relevant clause).

£50m+ and he's gone. (probably more to a direct rival)

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That was because of the 1 pound extra they put in.

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I hope the Arsen offer £50mill, and we sell him abroad for £40 mil. plus £1

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That would be funny, Tel, but I think I'd push for £40,000, 002 instead.

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05 Aug 2013 14:42:47
Just wanted to get people's general thoughts on how they think we will do next season? I do not post negative posts normally but for me I do think with the team we have at the moment, and with or without Suarez reaching top 4 will still be a tall order.

I love the club and also think BR and the players we have purchased for next season are good and I do not suggest its down to this that may prevent us reaching those positions but I just think we are still currently behind the other teams. I think personally we will defeat Arsenal this year but with or without Bale I think Spurs may be too good. They have had some good movement in terms of players in and obviously have and will have (Bale moving) loads of extra funds for players. My hope is they buy too many players and it disturbs the actual elements that work for the team as it is.

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Sorry mate I disagree. I think without suarez we will become a more fluid squad then last and tbh last season we should of won a lot of our games that we drew.

I think when suarez goes and we got two hopefully quality players we will be stronger then last season. United were quite poor last year in terms of out playing teams but were amazing at getting results. Who knows if that will happen again this season.

Man city looked very disjointed and didn't actually work that well as a team even with a quality squad they could go either way. Same as Chelsea mourinho (spelling) has a lot of pressure and the Chelsea team last year squeezed into that top 3 just.

Arsenal have a good team and I think are similar to us especially if they don't get any more players and not to sure about Tottenham fingers cross they do bad but who knows.

Maybe we won't get top 4 as it's quite a difficult ask but I think we will be fighting for it till the end.

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All that concerns me is that spurs are buying players of emence quality. Paulinho soldado Chadii there all top players, and that's without spending any of the 85m from bale. spurs have no champions league but they are still able to attract top players because players see that there showing potential in there signings. There not seeing that with us an its why were struggling to get our targets in! Anywhoo unless we sign a couple top players which hopefully we will because Rodgers has said so, then we'll have a good go at it. IF we get off to a good start our first 5 games ain't as easy as people think. We dropped points to all of them last year! If we beat stoke it'll bring some big confidence to the squad to push on!

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Red Twist I agree totally about Suarez actually and have been saying for ages that for all his talent I think he actually brings the team down often with his action on and off the pitch, but still think 4th while possible will be a huge truimph

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IMO we won't get top 4 either way. Just an honest view. I think it's a step too far for us this season as we don't look like buying anyone with the mass quality to take us to the next level. I'd like us to buy a Lamela or Sanchez kind of player. Someone with skill power and pace with some experience

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Last season, Suarez was banned for 5 games. In his absence, Liverpool won 4 and drew 1 scoring 13 goals and conceding 3. We will be more fluid and team-oriented without him because we have visual and statistical evidence to prove it as fact.

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05 Aug 2013 14:38:36
Away from the Suarez saga. It appears Coutinho is the new favourite in terms of shirt sales outselling Gerrard and Suarez. I think we have another Anfield great on our hands and I can't wait to watch him rip teams apart next season.
Also has anyone noticed the speed in which we attack now, it reminds me of United how we are now flooding the box with 4/5 players every attack whereas other years we had 2 at best. Just what I've noticed over the few friendlys and back end of last season. We associate BR with passing but I'm seeing speed is also a massive part of his plans

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Sadly I am already wondering how long we will be able to keep him! :-0

If he can keep it up I am sure a few major teams will be offering lots to prize him away and who could blame them

Gareth

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DBol, I hope speed isn't too much a part of his plans, with the FA promising an increase in drug testing in coming years.

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05 Aug 2013 14:29:04
Next we ll be loaning Suarez to Napoli, I like Rafa fair enough but surely we can negotiate better with such a cash rich side.

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Loaning out Reina, I understand. But skrtel, we shouldn't

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05 Aug 2013 14:24:30
hey eds, do you expect Diego Costa to sign? thanks {Ed002's Note - Maybe.}

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05 Aug 2013 14:15:36
Hi Eds,

Great job luss far, just wondering if there is any stone wall bids in from Liverpool for a centre forward. As for the Suarez soap opera something tells me that there is going to be a twist in it, a real - barca - byarn twist to be more exact. what we think?

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05 Aug 2013 14:04:12
Nice to see some positivity return to the site after nearly a 3 year holiday.
I wonder why that is :)
Cannot wait for the new season!

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Whinge, whinge, moan, relegation, whinge, cheapskates, FSG out, BR out, In and Out, Shake it all About, mid table medicority, moan, bitch, whinge.

:):):):)

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Ah yes, there you are.
Hello there :)

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05 Aug 2013 13:56:03
Just read on the official site that Sturridge will be back in training on Monday. I really want to see what the likes of him and Aspas can do. Hope he gets a shot back in soon .

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05 Aug 2013 13:54:22
Hi guys,
I think our problem will be againts the big teams again this year. We're building a very skilful fast team that will really help us finish off the small teams, which in the past has been our problem, we've always done well againts the big boys but failed againts the smaller teams, we'll have to much for them this year. But it's the big games that will be the proem again I think. If we keep Suarez and he wasn't banned we could have really pushed for the tittle but u need big players like Suarez to win the big games.

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OK. Suarez is good but he is not God.

He is banned for first few games, was deemed by the FA to have racially abused another player and bit another player on life-TV watched by billions. To top that off, he is something of a selfish-do it alone-ranger who misses 6 chances for each one he scores.

So Suarez should be sold. And apologetics should just suck it up.

I actually think we will do well against the big teams this year too. If we can sort out the defence. Remember, the key is fast and interchangeable runs down the lanes and channels coupled with overpowering ball possession.

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I agree with what your saying! He's a great goal scorer but he is also a great ball looser and when this happens we get hit on the brake big time. But what I mean is if u look at any big games its always the big players who prevail in the end RVP has won the Manchester Darby twice in a row now for utd. And when we beat Tottenham it was down to an outstanding game from Suarez. When we drew 2-2 with Chelsea we were just as good but again it was Suarez in the 90th who got us a point. Also coutinho was really poor in the big games got totaly out muscled an his moves were instantly stopped by the better defenders. It's the big boys who win the big games, if u have no big boys its twice as hard. Hopefully sturridge can stay fit and turn into our next best thing!

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05 Aug 2013 13:44:40
I have a question which I am finding slightly frustrating to the Ed's (great work by the way). Why are we loaning 2 international players out to Napoli (Reina & Skrtel)? Surely we are not being panicked into teams not buying them for a reasonable price they are both seriously good players. I appreciate we are not paying the salaries but not selling them I don't understand both are none risks with injuries etc (unlike Papa where a loan would make sense to LFC to prove fitness)

On another note as mentioned before we will still fin top 4 with or with Suarez, BR is a great coach and is improving our team as players all the time. Well done {Ed002's Note - We have answered these questions already.}

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05 Aug 2013 13:43:05
hi,

With the Skrtel transfer looking so close to completion do you think we will let him go before we have a replacement? doesn't seem to be much news on a centre half in the last few days.

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05 Aug 2013 13:24:26
Hi Eds and fellow readers,

just want to ask if anyone thinks that Martin Kelly would be able to step up and start at centre back (once he is fully recovered from his ACL injury)? I rate him highly and think he would make a great CB due to his combination of height, speed, work rate and reading of the game. Anyone else agree or disagree would like to know.

cheers george {Ed002's Note - You need to get registered George.}

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I'm a huge fan of Kelly, hoping this is the year he can stay fit and cement his place in the starting 11, better than Johnson in my opinion, defensively at least

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I think Wisdom will be played CB, was really impressive there on the tour. pretty sure BR said he was impressed as well.

I see Kelly as back up to Johnson. He has a lot to prove after coming back from injury, think this is a vital season for him and his lfc future.

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I'm a huge fan of Kelly, hoping this is the year he can stay fit and cement his place in the starting 11, better than Johnson in my opinion, defensively at least

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I guess br would play Kelly at rb & much better at defending compared to Johnson & decent going forward.

Wisdom is much better suited at cb than rb.

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05 Aug 2013 13:19:47
I think Rogers' comments on Arsenals valuation of Suarez will come back to haunt him and make us look like chumps. Roger's pretty much said that Suarez is valued around the same as Bale (80--100 million) and we won't sell any less than that. The whole world knows were not going to get anywhere near that figure so why make those comments? Like Ronan Keating once said Brendan 'you say it best when you say nothing at all'

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He didn't. He said Bale wasn't worth more than double the price of Suarez. If a bid of about £50m came in from Real we'd accept it and move on.

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Its a risk mate everyone has to take but I really don't see why we should sell him less than the market price .is bale twice the player of Suarez is cavani or falcao better players than Suarez? I don't think so. How many top class striker left on the market? Is Suarez desperate to leave or LFC desperate to sell considering these things br is doing a great job really why anything less than cavani.

Let's 50 mil and use it wisely on players

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Clearly though Bale is at least 25 million better on these terms only due to the fact he will not miss 6 games and also is not at risk like Suarez of missing further games!

In around 40 plus games your mad if you think Suarez will not be missing more than just six, so actually I think Suarez is worth 40-50 and that's all no matter how good he is

Gareth

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05 Aug 2013 13:18:39
Good afternoon eds,
Do you think we will add to our midfield before the end of the window?

And how do you rate Diego Costa?

Thanks for the info, great site {Ed002's Note - Please read the posts.}

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05 Aug 2013 13:41:20
Another one in our midfiled?

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Harry, of course, why not? We've shipped Shelvey and Spearing is on his way out too.

Aspas is a forward, and Alberto is a young AM.

I still think we need cover for Lucas, which I don't think Allen is.

I would also find space Xavi if he came back just because I think the guy is a legend.

I am still slightly baffled by Allen, not sure exactly where he fits in - too lightweight to be in the box-box mold, and not sure he's as good a tackler as Lucas.

So yes, another one for our midfield.

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But Xavi has never played for us?

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05 Aug 2013 13:15:28
Hello Eds,
now the Liverpool echo and the times are also reporting that the Lorenzo Melgarejo deal is off and we are instead looking at Aly Cissokho or the Granada LB. What I wanted to ask is,
is the Granada lad still an option or do you reckon he is Real bound?

2. Saw you mention on another page toby alderweireld is most likely to join some club (I think Everton) by next week. So what options do we have to replace Skrtel, is it just Papadopoulos or Sakho? {Ed002's Note - You need to try the search function on these - nothing has changed.}

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05 Aug 2013 13:05:10
I think the fans were just supporting gerrards special occasion and not ruining the day by booing that little runt! A touch of class by our faithful, something suarez would know nothing about!

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We don't have to boo him. Or cheer him for that matter, but certainly not boo him. LFC fans at anfield are better than that. If he goes then get a fair price and move on, his loss. I don't care to take part in glorifying his desire, either positively or negatively, to force a club to sell him. Leave the booing of a home team by home fans to clubs like Arsenal and Chelsea

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I allmost read runt wrong.

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05 Aug 2013 13:05:08
Hi Eds,, loving the good work your doin, can you explain what BR is doing with the depth of the squad as so far its looking slimmer than last season with

Out: Reina (loan), Shelvey, Wilson, Carragher, Carroll, suso(loan) Robinson (loan)

Maybe Leaving: Spearing, Skrtel, Suarez

In: Aspas, Alberto, Toure, Mignolet

No sign of any players coming in as all just gossip and nothing solid yet {Ed002's Note - There will be a couple more coming in.}

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Lets see; getting games for youth players that we have high hopes for but would play very few game for our first team, moving on players that won't ever make it at LFC, replacing retired players and older players with younger, hungrier players. Yeah, that list looks good to me.

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Hi Bri,

You also need to consider who specifically has gone out and who has come in:

Reina = Mignolet
Shelvey = Alberto
Carragher = Toure
Carroll = Aspas

These are the only 4 players from our usual matchday squad that have gone and been replaced.

Suso, although also used quite a bit next year, has been sent to get experience.

Wilson hasn't been near the first team squad since BR arrived.

Robinson also didn't get much game time last year, although I would expect Aly Cissohko to come in to provide competition with Enrique.

I would not expect to see a direct replacement for Spearing as again he didn't feature at all for us last season.

I do expect a couple more transfers in, more if Suarez goes too.

Also, remember we do (finally, after a relatively barren spell of 10-15 years) have players coming up from the youth/reserve set up:

Sterling - was about last season but would expect more this season

Ibe - new in at the end of last season but can expect him getting games

Coady - midfield cover and more games

I actually think our squad in terms of size is similar, and in terms of overall quality is currently a bit better on balance than last year.

If Suarez goes, the quality will take a hit, but let's see who we bring in instead!

Stay positive!

Z

P.S. Don't forget, we are 1 year further along in the 'project' so the players who are still here are getting more and more used to the BR style

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05 Aug 2013 16:18:20
dont forget about a few of the rising stars coming up through the youth who are now getting a shot at the first team and may I say they have looked brilliant pre-season :) Ibe, Wilson, sterling, kelly. :) we have more debth this season than last, that is very clear, more options were looking a lot better by far and like the ed said more will be coming in may it be only 2 more but we are looking stronger than we have been for a while!

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Coady out on loan & he was on the bench his first game in league 1, don't be silly.

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We now have better players than those that have left while blooding our kids within the first team. We are a much better team this preseason than last year. We are tired of passengers who don`t contribute a thing to the team`s progress. We now need players w/ hunger, determination, humility and drive to succeed.

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05 Aug 2013 13:02:33
Eds, I can't see Manchester United finishing higher than 3rd. They don't have the squad they used to have, their new manager doesn't know what he's doing and rooney is near enough gone. I think united and us are on the same page, and if we make two or three significant signings, like costa and papa, I can see us finishing above them in the BPL this year.

YNWA

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05 Aug 2013 13:42:11
Ronaldo heading back to theatre of tears.

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No harry, he has just agreed a new five year deal with madrid

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Moyes will end their careers in training. Probably get them to carry bricks.

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05 Aug 2013 14:49:54
Evolution.
Not yet mate, He hasn't agreed the contract.

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Man Utd will be in direct competition for 3-6 alongside us, Spuds & Arse.

I think Chelsea & City will contest the league (although I remain hopeful that we can get involved, especially if we keep Suarez or replace him with someone who's on fire - regardless of price!)

Was chatting with a Manchester United fan recently that the Fergie effect cannot be understated. He had the ability (tough as it is for a Reds fan to say!) to take a bunch of average players and turn them into world beaters. Without him, I think you can certainly have knocked several league titles off. I don't think the Manchester United team has been good enough - individually - to win the league since Ronaldo left.

They're currently a team made up of average players, aging stars, a petulant prima donna who would be great if he had a clue how to look after himself and spent more time on football than being a celeb, and a genuine great player in RVP.

We've got more potential than them, they have much more belief than us given their win last year. It'll be close.

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05 Aug 2013 12:54:51
Dear Ed's and posters,

What do you think about the crowd support shown to Suarez at the weekend?

Must admit I was quite proud of the fans at the time but felt conflicted on reflection.

Maybe it's a difficult one because of not wanting to detract or spoil a very special player's occasion.

Thanks again for all your efforts Eds.

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Special but in vain.

I suspect many of them will cringe very shortly when he leaves after submitting a transfer request.

In saying that, I loved Suarez, in fact I still do, but I've lost a lot of respect for the lad and that is difficult to say.

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05 Aug 2013 14:13:04
The two options being support him or provide a hostile atmosphere during a celebration of club legend. Not the time or place for fans to express their frustration

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05 Aug 2013 14:45:39
It would have been very different had it not been one of our greatest ever players testimonial.

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I was at the game and the club played it smart when Suarez was coming on Carra was behind him so the cheers were for both never the less the kop started singing his song but a lot of people around me didn't sing

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Them cheering Suarez just shows the world how classy we are as fans. We never forget those who have served us with great amount of bravery and determination that Suarez showed last year being the only fit striker we had. In spite of his antics and problems, He is who and what he is today because of BR and the fans of this great club. What he does with this show of loyalty is his problem but he no one will ever say he did not have our support because HE DID. Well done to all those that cheered him. We will see if Rooney gets the same welcome in the Charity Shield from his manc faithful.

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05 Aug 2013 12:50:03
So after all the contempt and betrayal, the Anfield faithful STILL applaud Suarez onto the pitch, even then he snubs Stevie G's charity dinner and threatens to take the club to court, when are the fans going to wake up and realise what kind of person he is? he does not deserve our love and praise, so please stop it! the sooner he is gone the better, I don't care how good he plays!

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And you know this how? - Oh of course, you believe everything you read in the papers - and who knows, there may have been a good reason for not attending the meal.
Have you ever thought that Luis being at the meal may have detracted from the focus of such an occasion.

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Whilst I agree Suarez has proved himself to be a ungrateful person I am of the strong belief that when a player puts that red shirt on I will support him and hope he does his best whether my opinion of the person is that he is a complete tool. I do think the sooner he goes the better but if he did stay I would still support him on the pitch as much as I would support any Liverpool player.

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Problem is, when he put on the red shirt he doesn't do his best! it's half hearted, he doesn't want to get injured so will not put the effort in, he doesn't want to be here, as for the papers reporting negative copy about him? so he did go to Stevie G dinner? is that what you are saying? or he had another reason NOT to go? he hasn't been in touch with his lawyers to get him out of his contract and sign for Arsenal then? yeh right! you can delude yourselves all you want, the man is a disgrace, take the blinkers off and stop making excuses for him.

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If Suarez stays and gives 100% I will support him on the pitch too, but I won't hold my breath on that one! in fact I would be totally shocked if he stayed, some fans still think he will stay, they are kidding themselves

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As long as Suarez wears a red shirt, he gets full support, the moment he wears the shirt of another club in the Premier League then he will get the absolute abuse that he deserves if he returns to Anfield.Simple.

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05 Aug 2013 12:46:14
Hi eds, two questions please.

1.) Do you think BR is right that Suarez should be worth around the same value as bale? If not, how much do you think we will get for him?

2.) Regarding Costa, do you think the player is a lot like Turan in the sense he can play on both wings and as a CF? So if the Costa deal fails, would Turan be a probable option?

Thanks {Ed002's Note - (1) The value of a player is not determined by what another club will play for another player. (2) I doubt it.}

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05 Aug 2013 12:45:37
Does anyone follow or agree with the 100 Players Who Shook The Kop ratings?

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They appear to me to lean towards the recently employed players, like Luis Suarez has placed higher than John Barnes and Graeme Souness . But each of us are entitled to an opinion .

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After seeing Suarez ranked 5th? No I don't. There has been many other icons through the years that trump him easily. RedWire points out the lean and bias, I think it's perhaps a younger generation of voters.

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It's biased & Suarez above Barnes for instance is a disgrace for the ratings!

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05 Aug 2013 12:45:06
Right this is a Suarez related post but please bear with me.
Can you remember a couple of months ago they stopped taking bets in Spain on Suarez going to Arsenal?
Everyone thought this was a total joke but cut to now and they have made two bids and it looks like they are preparing a third.
Seems very strange.
Does anyone know how they knew?
And so early?

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05 Aug 2013 12:32:25
Here's a debate for you all.

Why are there no female football managers in the top European leagues and will there ever be 5, 10 years from now?

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Is that u Karen Brady? I taught u Wer happy with lord sugar

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Without being sexist at least 1 week of every month all players will be told they are rubbish and transfer listed.

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I've heard that Robbie Savage is interested.

DaveyBootle

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Because the hairdryer treatment would become a perm.

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I should imagine our boobs would hinder us somehow or once a month we'd be telling the players they're crap. Something like that anyway. I honestly don't know, men are happy to credit us ladies as evil geniuses when it suits them but only capable of hitting a tennis ball when it comes to pro sport for some reason. I would like to see more female officials (we women have eyes in the back of our heads) but mostly I would like to see a match refereed by a mum! Dressed in mumsy clothes, threatening to clip players round the ear and putting them on the naughty step instead of yellow cards. I reckon it would be harder to back-chat a mum and tell her to FSG off as well! Lol

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Great question. I'd say it'd take a little longer than that, unfortunately. I don't think it will suffice with just one good female manager, like Silva Neid or Pia Sundhage, to make "the switch". We need more people like Eva Carneiro in all clubs, in all positions. Talented people, regardless of gender.

And Mushroom, yes, that was sexist and a bit silly. I've had a female boss my past six years. I've never been threatened to be fired, let alone once a month.

Eds and fellow posters, keep the good work up. Thank you for making this site addictive, even though it's rather calm regarding proper rumours these days.

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Richard Keys and Andy Gray would have a field day!

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05 Aug 2013 14:27:58
I can only imagine that at Liverpool its because we write off 50% of them because Anfield already has a cat.

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Couldn't play night games because we would have to be in by 9pm if my life's anything to go by.

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05 Aug 2013 12:22:04
First of all, great site and great work eds!

I have to say that I am a bit disappointed over transfers in so far. If we don't sign a good forward/winger and CB I don't think we have any chance to even compete for top four finish. We need to improve our squad way more than our rivals, keep in mind that both Arsenal & Spurs are way stronger than us, especially Spurs. I think there signings so far are extremely good! If they are able to keep Bale I can see Spurs challenging for the title.

Let's just hope we sign a couple of top players. It will be sad to be out of top four challenge before it has even started.

If we are to sell Suarez to Madrid, I think Di Maria would be great business as part of the deal.!

Do you EDs think we can get top four with current squad?

Best regards, {Ed002's Note - I think it will be tough.}

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05 Aug 2013 12:42:57
Di maria is not good enough. and won't come to Liverpool anyhow.
Alavaro Moratta, or fabio conetrao.

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I think we need to lower our expectations we will find it difficult to finish in the top 6. We never even finished in the Europa places last season. I would love to see CL football but I just think there are 5-6 clubs with better squads than us. Since the season of 09/10 our league standings are 7th, 6th, 8th, 7th.

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"Tough" very diplomatic of you Ed. It's probably for the best, to many unrealistic people. Whilst we might have sorted a lot of the Trolls we also seem to have lost any balanced argument in the last 24 hrs.
Strange to say this but where's WARO? {Ed002's Note - I have explained before where I think Liverpool will be next season.}

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05 Aug 2013 12:20:36
Suarez - Not for Sale
Bale - Not for Sale
Rooney - Not for Sale
Fabergas - Not for Sale

Anyone see the trend?

Whats the chances of them all been sold!? {Ed002's Note - Two or, more probably Three, will be.}

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05 Aug 2013 12:35:29
Apart from Fabrigas, all will be sold, Ironic, Bale and suarez would play in the same team. waaaoooooo.
The fans who quaralled over the Best PL player of the seaosn would eventually become fools once again.

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So you still don't think Fabregas will be sold then Ed? {Ed002's Note -Nope.}

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. sorry Eds, prematurely hit "send".

basically he (if reported/translated correctly) has said everything but - the English press, Champions League, etc, etc . surely his situation, nor the club's was any different when he signed his new revised contract . did he raise his reservations then? no!

Money and mercenaries will see football implode (either that or the 2022 World Cup being held in Qatar).

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05 Aug 2013 12:13:36
Ed. what's the situation with Remy?. Is he off to Newcastle? heard a loan dal
He scored some goals last seoasn and some of the goals were blinders.
I know he is sorrounded by the controvorsies, But I would liked him to be in Liverpool, would provide a good competition upfront also can play wide right.
he has got great pace and good finishing abilities. {Ed002's Note - Loic Remy will, subject to medical and a minor contractual issue, complete a move to Newcastle on loan.}

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05 Aug 2013 12:05:15
Ed, as it's the middle of silly season again, I've noticed smokescreens are popping back up. Can I just ask if any of you know from whence this term originated? Have clubs ever employed a smokescreen tactic or is it just a case of fans overthinking an creating conspiracies? Thanks. Great job on the site and thanks to everyone who has registered, makes it a lot less annoying to read the posts XD {Ed002's Note - No idea, sorry.}

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05 Aug 2013 11:57:30
So I read somewhere that Suarez was the only player to know show up for the charity dinner arranged after the testimonial to raise funds for Gerrards charity. If that is true then that alone should be enough to kick him out.

I don't care anymore. Let him go to Arsenal, Karma will follow him there.

And we need to buy a CAM and a CB and a LB soon (excluding a replacement for suarez)

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I believe this was to avoid unnecessary media attention focusing on Suarez during the dinner as it was Gerrards' evening.

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05 Aug 2013 12:42:15
Whats wrong with him not going to the dinner? If he doesn't want to that's his choice. His wife is heavily pregnant so thays probably why he didn't go.

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There was no Chelsea players on the menu so settled for burger in Chelsea Harbour

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05 Aug 2013 11:47:59
I wouldn't mind if Real offered £15m + Angel di Maria for Suarez.

Loan out skrtel with option to buy, sell Coates for around £5m and use the money + most of the money from suarez's sale to buy Papadopoulos for £16m.

Buy Diego Costa as we will do anyway for £21.7m

get a left back in on loan with option to buy.

sell or loan out Assaidi and Spearing.

bring in a young cb to replace coates.

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05 Aug 2013 18:02:35
U really think di maria is worth around £35mil? {Ed030's Note - RM ended up paying around £40 however he'd probably cost around £25 now. }

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Ask this yourself, do you see di Maria agreeing to move to Liverpool with no champions league to offer?

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05 Aug 2013 11:36:27
I just hope LS was going to talk to real in london not arsenal. All he's talk about the english press yet he still would join the gunners. Looking at some reports a lot of form arsenal players don't want him to sign {Ed002's Note - Real Madrid and the circus that goes along with the players are all in Los Angeles, not London.}

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05 Aug 2013 11:31:03
Just thought I would congratulate the eds on all their hard work and efforts in making this site great again after a slight dip in form with all the pesemistic (spelling) roasters who have jumped on the band wagon recently, I take my hat off to you all. And also as a Liverpool/Rangers fan I would like to wish the team all the best against that other team from Glasgow on saturday.C'mon the redmen. YNWA. {Ed002's Note - Thanks.}

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New York rangers I guess you mean?
Is this the first ice hockey fan you have had on this site eds?

DALGLISH!!

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Kumber. Yes Dalglish played of the Celtic but is a Rangers Supporter.

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Dalglish, Souness, Hansen, Spackman, Walters, Vignal, Fowler(God), Lawson, Wilson, Kyriakos and of course Alex Miller and the mighty Shankly all had links with that famous ice hockey team. lol. does it really matter, the fact is I love them both equally and will support both til I die, YNWA. my beloved Liverpool and Rangers will both be league champions at the end of this season, put your money on that double people .

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05 Aug 2013 11:11:31
I wish BR had better PR skills. He talks too much. We should keep everything in house until news is certain. Leave it to club hiearchy to defend the club and plyers when required. I know he gets asked questions, but he does give the press too much ammo.

Not bothered either way if we sell Suarez, just want it concluded ASAP and buy 1 replacement if he goes.20/25million max or less.

I think Sturridge will flourish as our main striker.
Gerrard will be great again and in Coutinho, we may just have our own version of Xavi/Iniesta in him.
Aspas looks like he could do well.
If Allen plays as well as his first few games for us last season, it will add to the team.
Top four is more than acheivable.
Time will tell.

1 new commanding centreback needed to replace Skrtel and possibly 1 left back for competition. if we getbetter at defending set pieces and show a bit of steel when required at the back. We will have our best season in the league for sometime.


Glad to register. Great work eds. Thx.

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I agree.

In the game of cricket, there is one very fantastic shot - "Well Left".

Every now and then when the media bowls a googly, BR needs to start leaving the question alone instead of giving inconsistent replies.

All said and done though, there seems to be a sound mind behind those much used vocal chords.

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I personally feel its good he's saying something because the silent approach make it feel he's just standing by and watching. at least his opinions are known. this league's best managers have a certain way with the media. at least he's trying to learn how to deal with it.

great site eds. keep up the good work.

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Agree with RedLeicester Suarez is as good as gone we all know it, its just waiting for the right bid to come in which is deemed acceptable, Diego Costa looks a strong possibility as does Papa as Skrtel has agreed a loan move to Napoli although to me it don't make any sense at all it should've been a straight sale would they let us loan Hamsik with a view to buy. Cissokho looks to be 1st choice LB cover we are seeking for Enrique so once Suarez is sold will we go for another attacker?

LB - Cissokho
CB - Papa
RW/LW/CF/ST - Costa

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BR tries too hard in front of the press. Instead of grandiose and OTT statements, he needs to learn the art of talking without actually saying anything. He needs to calm down instead of rising to the bait.

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05 Aug 2013 11:05:02
FSG through BR are using some clever delay tactics and reverse psych in the media.
Remember the CLUB got to handle the trifecta, Suarez himself, Arsenal & Real Madrid with BR's press comments and get the best outcomes on all fronts.
He's got to to send the Message to Suarez that he's not bigger than the club, and we have the power not to sell u if we want to. SO BEHAVE! We will sell you, but it will be on LIVERPOOL'S TERMS.
He's got to send the message to Arsenal that we have the power NOT to be unsettled by a disgruntled player and force us to sell on the cheap just because the player wants out(like they were forced to with van persie).
Liverpool also got to send the message to Real Madrid, that we are NOT desperate to sell BUT are open to and are happy to consider offers if you give us crazy money.
Big money is usually paid to players who are happy to stay, but open to go.
Suarez's initial outbursts had depreciated his value, because he clearly stated he wanted out.
Liverpool are cleverly using Arsenal to salvage and regenerate Suarez's value for a sale to real madrid.
Brilliant. Don't take everything on face value. There's a lot of reverse psychology going on.

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Could be, sounds like wot you try and do from a business point of view if so well done lfc
Ynwa

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Then the little jab at Arsenal's class etc, is just a pot shot at spurring Arsenal on to Bid higher(even though LFC have no intention to sell to Arsenal). This just increases the price for Real Madrid to pay as they would have to at least match Arsenals highest bid. In the interim that is why one minute BR's talking Cavani price then Bale price. Its just a stunt to up LS's valuation. Arsenal are in trouble because they're not going to get LS. {Ed002's Note - Would you be too upset if he ended up there?}

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It would take at least 55mil a public tantrum and transfer request for LS to be sold to arsenal, but LFC will hold out till deadline day for Real Madrid. In a sense I'd love for him to go to arsenal just to then watch them not make top 4, along with man united and spurs(without bale).
LFC, CHELSEA, CITY 7 SWANSEA WILL BE THE TOP 4. And we'd all be pointing and laughing.

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05 Aug 2013 10:55:31
What are your thoughts on Costa eds and fellow reds? Do u! Think he will sign?

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All the rumours seem to point to him signing. Suppose we will have to wait and see. Nothing is certain in the world of football transfers.

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05 Aug 2013 10:52:32
What are the odds on Costa eds? an do you think he I'd a good sign fellow reds opinions welcomed also {Ed002's Note - I can't do "odds".}

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05 Aug 2013 10:52:19
If all interested parties had to 'sign in' to a negotiation site to discuss a player, would the Suarez, Bale & Rooney transfers be less toxic than they are now?!

Just been reading the 'toxic rating' in Telegraph Sport today - very funny!

Am pleased to be back on the site now the eds have done the business with their brooms!

Its Fabreeze Fresh in here today.

Z

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05 Aug 2013 10:44:04
Eds and reds,
1) Brendan Rodgers, in interviews, has said that he wants a defensive player and a offensive player.
He has said that the defensive target is a left back.
He also said that Liverpool were after Henrikh Mkhitaryan, an attacking midfielder.
Are those the positions you feel Liverpool are still looking to strengthen in, or is it just media talk designed to create smoke screens?

2) Brendan Rodgers has said that the squad depth in defence is strong.
However, Martin Skrtel and Sebastian Coates are likely to leave the club.
Are Livepool looking at centre backs to replace these departing players? {Ed002's Note - There are no smoke screens. All of these points have been covered - you really need to read the posts.}

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05 Aug 2013 10:43:53
Hi Eds, I believe I signed up weeks ago and have to say its great to have so many positive vibes on here now, I'm really hopeful for the season ahead, do you think that we will sign another foward/ midfielder apart from Costa (if we get him) and how do you think we could do this season {Ed002's Note - Alberto has already signed. Aspas has signed. I would not expect any more if Costa signs.}

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05 Aug 2013 10:37:26
Congrats Eds on the welcome change to the atmosphere in here. It was both emabrrassing and depressing previously. It's like a breath of fresh air now. Good work! {Ed002's Note - Thanks.}

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05 Aug 2013 10:36:14
I keep reading that Suarez has been a distraction pre season and we need him gone asap.I agree that he needs to go but only because I think we could work better without him, but to say he's been a distraction?!. We havnt even conceded a goal yet. some distraction
YNWA JFT96 {Ed002's Note - He has been a distraction to the club and the business the club has been trying to do.}

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05 Aug 2013 10:34:40
With all the news that Arsenal, United and Tottenham are either losing some of there big names or not securing there targets makes me feel a lot better . However, it's going to be a tough season but we are well in with a shout of securing 3rd or 4th position and if Man City and Chelsea fall short who knows . let's be honest this is a tough league but a good start is essential as lesser teams last season would have found themselves fighting relegation with the start we had

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Spot on. I think both United and Arsenal are on the decline whilst LFC and spurs are potentially on the up. A lot of spurs progress depends upon the Bale situation. We really need a fast start this season and not wait until Jan to start playing. I think pre-season and BR working his magic should avoid this (fingers crossed). I think top 4, with no European distractions is very realistic

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05 Aug 2013 10:07:05
Hi Ed

tried the search function but didn't see any posts on the matter. Downing didn't make an appearance yesterday and there is a lot of talk of attacking players potentially coming in. Is he injured, or was yesterday perhaps a telling sign that he may be off? I had thought based on his performances towards the end of last season and his versatility he may have been retained as a squad player. Do you think he will move on?

PS loving the new set-up!

Cheers {Ed002's Note - I would not read anything in to him not appearing yesterday. At this time I am not aware that he will be leaving this summer.}

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05 Aug 2013 10:06:12
Rodgers insisting that Suarez is not for sale, as much as we'd love him to go, he's a huge part of BR's plan for the next season. I hope he'll give us one more season before making up his mind to either go or stay.

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BR just saying this to try and get as much for Suarez as possible. He's not going to say we want rid of him is he?

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05 Aug 2013 11:09:32
Mushroom.

Do you honeslty believe, Arsene wenger and the Arsneal Board are Kindergarden?, They too are professionals and know how to buy a player, don't they.
You cannot simply increase the value of player like that. They would either backdown or stand firm

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Mushroom, but BR is wasting his time with his nonsense. The clubs will know that Liverpool want to sell Suarez and they will know Suarez is desperate for a move. If anything he is conning the fans into thinking there is a chance that he will stay. There is zero chance he will stay. It's going to come back and bite him in the backside.

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Harry, Liverpool want as close to £50m as possible for Suarez. If BR states that he is for sale then no-one will bid that much.
Yes I do believe Wenger and Arsenal are Kindergarten otherwise they would not have bid £40m + £1, how childish is that? Arsenal know what they need to do to buy the player but haven't done it yet.

Chicken Little,
Would you prefer BR to sell Suarez for £25m just to get a quick sale so then he doesn't have to "con" the fans? I agree BR says too much, but he is only trying to get the best deal possible for the club.

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Mushroom, as explained whatever BR says has no bearing on the price of LS. Clubs are aware that LS wants to leave and clubs are aware that Liverpool want to sell. The only thing he is doing with his posturing is giving the fans false hope. Finally BR will not be selling anyone. It is not his job. Arsenal are unlikely to budge on there £40m offer and RM or any other European side will likely offer even less. After LS has received his 5% loyalty bonus Liverpool will receive far less than what the fans are expecting.

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OK chicken little whatever you say. Clearly BR saying Suarez is not for sale and Liverpool rejecting 2 offers from Arsenal, the second one an increased bid, has absolutely no bearing on pushing up the price. I stand corrected.
You are correct that it is not BR's job to sell players but he is the one that will run the rule on who stays and who goes. It is extremely unlikely that a player will be sold without BR agreeing to it.

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BR will have little or no opinion on LS staying or leaving. LS has made his position at the club untenable. He will be sold.

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Think we need to get the best deal for our number 7, and buy 2/3 players to give us a better team/squad,
and I believe that we will be a much more balanced team without him,
he is starting to do a torres .

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BR will be of the opinion that Suarez needs selling as BR will not want him upsetting the team morale. Especially with Suarez' remarks that his team mates are not good enough.
Get real man!

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05 Aug 2013 10:05:00
Open training at Anfield today, will be interesting to see if Suarez is there.

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Update: I've heard Suarez is at open training today which means his absence from SG gala dinner all the more suspect / telling!

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WHY is that suspect or telling? He's paid to be a professional footballer for Liverpool Football Club - why wouldn't he turn up for training?
Perhaps he wasn't hungry or he didn't like the menu or the company.

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Fair enough John B don't get ya knickers in a twist.

My point is simple all the players but Suarez attended Gerrards bash - why wouldn't he? it says to me he has either been advised to stay away or he doesn't want to be around the team unless he has i.e. training.

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Plus John B, rumour was he wasnt at the SG event because he had left to meet up with the Uruguayan squad - this wasnt true as he is at training - do you see my point?

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Maybe Suarez had a bite to eat somewhere else .

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More to the point, Suarez was training today at open day at anfield, all the players waved to the crowd at the end, bar one, I will give you three guesses .

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05 Aug 2013 10:03:36
if you think suarez is a goner we need to bring in 2 forwards 1 being costa who looks similer to suarez nasty but good player but the other forward I would go for would be defoe proven goalscorer good cover for sturridge and added experiance up front would not cost a lot either.

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Can't say I'd like Defoe - he's ok, but we could do better. Plus I fear for what we'd have to pay given Levy's talent for making as much money on transfers for his club as he can. If there was any one person I'd want from Spurs it would be him.

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05 Aug 2013 09:52:20
HI EDS do use think Liverpool will hold on to suarez I meen make him see out his contract and let him go on a free they took a loss of 20 mill on BIG Andy can you see them doing the same on suarez thanks lads best site on the tinternet {Ed002's Note - Suarez has really been covered in more than enough detail. I would ask you a question. Would you want a player in the dressing room who has openly discussed his desire to leave, who has had his agent knocking of the doors of other clubs all summer, who has said the British media are diving him out but would be willing to join a London based club, who has said his teammates aren't good enough, who does not want to submit a transfer request so he can get another £2M or so out of the club, has taken legal advice over his contract ....?}

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I know it's tempting to want him to stay as he's a great player, but:
a) he's disrespected the club and the fans too many times
b) he doesn't want to be here
c) we play better without him
d) when the next incident happens, and you just know it will, he'd be out for most of a season
The sooner he goes, we stop being on the back pages of papers for the wrong reason, and we get some quality replacements, the better.

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Just show us the 50m and get rid of him. We paid just over 20m for him so we could get a top striker and a top winger and forget about the ungrateful git

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I agree he has disrespected everyone countless times now.

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05 Aug 2013 19:03:00
Ed02, Absolutly no. I wouldn't want anyone such. But I would want the player Suarez on the pitch.or someone of his quality.Thats a Must for a top 4 Side.
I wouldn't also want someone whose so diplomatic and Humble, who doesn't produce anything on pitch.
And Jesus christ we are bringing another suarez in, Diego Costa. But I don't care what baggage he bring in unless he produces outstanding performance on the pitch.

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05 Aug 2013 09:50:58
just an update about coady he's ruffled a few feathers at united he's dislodged their under twenty one captain who was training with the first team Elliot whitehouse

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I have a few friends who are Shef Utd fans and they are happy with Coady they want competition and they think Coady offers that.

Will be great experience for the lad as well.

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05 Aug 2013 09:50:45
I have just read that Aly Cissokho is on 60,000 a week, and he would be coming on loan to push/back up Enrique with a view to buy. I have heard the same about Lorenzo.M of Benfica but that he only wants around 1500 a week. Now, in my mind which ever player comes in is to back up Enrique and possibly sign next season on a contract to be negotiated at that time. Does it not make more sense to go for Lorenzo and save 58,000 a week which could be better invested with another transfer, such as Papa or Costa?
Eds, do you know anything about this?

Hopes for the rest of the window:
1. Suarez to Madrid or to stay one more season, definately not to Arsenal.
2. A younger CB to come in with a view to taking over Toure. Papa would be my preference.
3. If Suarez goes then an attacking Midfielder/Forward to come in, looks like Costa although others would also be fine.

Anfield Andy {Ed002's Note - I would not worry yourself unduly about wages at all.}

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I'm not sure he's comming as a back up Andy, I have a feeling he's comming to start.

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05 Aug 2013 08:47:55
Good day to all fellow Kopites, The weather here in sunny Basra is only 48 degrees which is quite mild considering the temperatures have been hitting 53 plus. Anyway I haven't watched any pre season games as its impossible to stream games here as the internet is too slow but I did listen to the SG testimonial on talk sport. Ray Houghton was commentating & he thought that our midfield was to similar with Lucas & Allan in the middle. I totally agree we need a goal scoring midfielder in there with Gerrard. Luis will definitely stay as I stated in an earlier post weeks ago so top 4 here we come. What do you think EDS? I know ED 2 you disagreed with me with regards to Suarez when you said that LFC want him gone do you still feel the same?

Elmo96 {Ed002's Note - Oh yes, Suarez wants out and Liverpool want rid of him. You are talking about someone who has said his teammates aren't good enough etc.. It has gone beyond a distraction now and, to be honest, Rodgers' posturing is not helping. I think matters will be clearer as early as the end of this week.}

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Our goalscoring midfielder is Coutinho. I would like to see him playing behind the striker as that is where I feel he is most effective.

I would prefer that we purchase a winger so that we don't have to move Coutinho out wide.

Red Rum

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05 Aug 2013 10:17:50
Ed02, with Ronaldo supposedly signing a new 5 year contract, which he has not confirmed himself, would RM still have interest in Bale? If not would they now make a move for Suarez or is Suarez deal irrelevant to the whole Bale saga?
I did hear that they were planning to use the money from selling Ronaldo for Bale. {Ed002's Note - The transfers of Ronaldo, Bale and Suarez are all unconnected.}

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05 Aug 2013 10:25:54
Dont think So ED, Arsnal would at max increase a bid of 45 mill and then use all their resources (players, tricks, media, interview) to convince Suarez to join them.
Or wait till The bale saga gets over and Madrid comes with any offer. {Ed002's Note - I have no idea what you are talking about Harry - and your understanding about how Arsenal do business is far from correct.}

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Henderson seems to be growing in confidence now and adding a few goals elmo. Made some nice breaks into the box when he came on and got a goal. I think he could be the surprise this year, has a lot of prem games now, is strong has a very good engine and has played all over the midfield for us.
I really rate allen, but given how Henderson looked like he was on his way out at the begining of last season, I think BR was a bit premature in his opinion ofsome of his midfielders.

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05 Aug 2013 08:23:35
I'm not 100% sure this is right but I think there is a deadline to announce a CL squad? And that's the 12th of August, so Suarez must be sold before then if he wants to play in the competition so he's got a week to make a move. {Ed002's Note - No, that just relates to the preliminary competition.}

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05 Aug 2013 08:09:57
Latest interview with Rodgers he do not bellieve anyone is going to meet Liverpools price tag on Suarez, and the deadline is getting close. My view is that the Bale story is going to drag out, and I bellieve that at the end of the window he is going to Real Madrid. When they want someone and the player want to leave, they often get the player. If negotations break down it would not be before the last couple of days or the deadline day. Then we can end up with getting acceptable bid, but no time to find suitable replacements. Hopefully we can sign a striker before this happens, so we get the possibility to delay using the money to january transfer window. Therefore it would be smart to sign Diego Costa that can both play winger and center forward. Makes us less vounerable for Suarez leaving.

If we can keep Suarez I think we should do it as we are going to win over weaker opposition with or without him like last season. However against top sides we desperately need Suarez to do something fanstastic to win the game.

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05 Aug 2013 07:44:29
So glad you sorted out the signing in on the mobile version! So happy now! Bye bye trollers, hello good times! Keep up the good work eds!

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05 Aug 2013 07:25:37
I hope we take the cups very serious this year. No European football to worry about. We have a strong squad in my opinion, and should be able to conentrate on the cup ties as well as some consistency in the league. I just would love to see Gerrard lift another cup before his time is up. I can't see that being the league any time in the forseeable future, so the cups it has to be. Would also love to see him playing CL football again - it is where he belongs. I hope we make it this season, but am prepared for the likelyhood that we may just miss out given how hard the fight for the 3rd and 4th spots will be.

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05 Aug 2013 05:32:29
Hopefully all our business is done this week.

Surely AC Milan has was too many on the books. with Mad Mario and Robinho re-comitting and El Shaarawy scoring a brace the other night surely a bid for Pazzini would make sense as he, Mario and El Shaarawy not only competing for starts but spots in the Azzuri for the World Cup. At 29 Pazzini still has a few good years left and wouldn't cost the earth.

And with Scheletto joining Inter would Guarin or Alvarez be available? Both class acts. {Ed002's Note - Not right now.}

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05 Aug 2013 05:04:40
Hearing that Ashley Williams is now back on the agenda?
Also Downing to Fulham is gathering Pace, house viewings in Cobham Penciled in for thursday.
Not sure about Costa? would like to ask Ed what you think about him as a Player? {Ed002's Note - Costa is well respected as a forward but has the capability to do some dumb things.}

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05 Aug 2013 09:33:07
Morning Eds and Reds.Been looking around the net but can't find anything, so does anyone have any updates on Danny Sturridge's injury yet.Also I know we are looking at a new CB if Skrtel goes which looks like it could be very soon, but how do people rate our defence so far.I think we have looked rock solid at the back and although we haven't played great teams this pre season Olympiacos are a CL team and scored v Arsenal last season.Cheers YNWA {Ed002's Note - Nothing on Sturridge.}

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He is at the open day training today at Anfield, so fingers crossed for the Stoke game

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05 Aug 2013 09:32:17
Think we need a lift with a transferits all gone bit quiet since BR built our hopes up saying he now wants to add to the team as all sqaud players are now in place.
Cheers eds great site so glad we have got rid of the half wits posting total rubbish. {Ed002's Note - You need to sign in.}

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05 Aug 2013 09:28:29
Truth be told, I've already accepted the idea of losing Suarez to Arsenal but ONLY if they are willing to fork out 40mil and 1 pound + Wilshere. (we can always giveup Spearing to them in show of good faith)

Would be enough to also land us Costa, Paps or Alder and Cissokho :)

And if we do, look out Club World Cup 2015, the Reds are painting the world RED!

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05 Aug 2013 09:22:08
Sporting Life are reporting that BR is confident of keeping Suarez which imo is a shame. LFC should have players that want to wear the shirt and LS very obviously doesn't.

He says the club is in control of the situation and will maintain that, though I wonder if a transfer request from LS would perhaps show up BRs "media skills" and prove that not to be the case.

For me, the whole situation needs an end. Even with out LS we still have 3 20 goal a season players available to us. Get the defence right, we have the mid and next season will be better than last.

Everyone saying the Arse are our 4th spot competition. I see the spuds as that as I believe they have a better squad than Arsenal and less pressure from their fans.

LS didn't score in every game last year so he can be defended against. If the arse pay 45mil, let him go.

Costa for me is a risk too. He did get 22 (I think) goals last year and that would improve given our midfield over theirs. However, his temperament would be attacked by the powers that be and some teams would use this as a weakness. Soldado would have been better.

Having looked again and again at the situation I can only see us finishing 6th or seventh. Arsenal and Tottenham fighting for forth though factor X has to be Man U. Has Moyse got what it takes?

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Suarez has been a huge distraction. I believe this is exactly what we did not need this pre-season.

I also do not understand the obsessive anxiety about "helping Arsenal" if we sell them Suarez. Quite frankly, he is more of a liability than an asset.

I hope we can find a buyer for the ungrateful one before the season starts.

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05 Aug 2013 09:21:24
Looking forward to seeing sturridge slot in upfront and how he links up with Aspas. If we can add costa and have a front three of sturridge Aspas and Costa and the little magician coutinho in behind them I have no doubt we can achieve top 4 this season

Also can't wait to see the lads in Dublin on Saturday should be good atmosphere and banter as Celtic and Liverpool fans are as mad as each other

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05 Aug 2013 09:18:35
how is the Daniel Sturridge injury going is he still looking to be back for the start of the season?
Ed02, do you see Diego Costa as a replacement
for Luis Suarez his goal record his not that good so is it that we are looking to spread the goals out more with,
Sturridge Costa and aspas?or do you see one of the 3 hitting 20 league goals {Ed002's Note - RTP please.}

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05 Aug 2013 09:15:45
Amazing what a bit of registering can do. well done Eds on all your new signings.some shrewd business!

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Agree wholeheartedly Big Al.
No more moronic trolls. Strange how the quality of English, and even spelling has improved with the introduction of registration.
I bet the eds must be kicking themselves for not having done this a lot sooner.
A major improvement. The site is a much better read without the keyboard warriors.

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05 Aug 2013 03:05:43
Was there an enquiry about Jorginho at one point? Is there still any kind of interest in him? {Ed002's Note - Not from Liverpool at this time.}

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05 Aug 2013 02:02:41
This wouldn't be the first Costa Rodgers has bought from the looks of it.

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05 Aug 2013 02:02:36
Hello Eds any news on Costa/Muriel/Konoplyanka? Really think we should use the Suarez money on these 3! Cheers PDLFC {Ed002's Note - There is nothing new today.}

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05 Aug 2013 01:42:11
Good evening. I posted earlier about Suarez staying til January then beeping sold to a champion league team. What I meant was a team abroad not arsenal . I just thought if he could perform for us til January score a few, bed the new players in then as he wants out with his serspension served we may get more takers and then be in a position to strengthen. The start this season will be very important as I feel as a team we need to build momentum early on. What do you guys think. I do understand for many reasons known to Suarez he wants out and the club would be looking to move him on but this could benefit both sides short term. Opinions welcomed

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05 Aug 2013 01:34:52
Hi eds, I just read that Eriksen wants out of Ajax. Now I am under the impression we have scouted him, but is there anything more in it?
We are about to sign Diego Costa, so I don't see why we need another attack minded player.
Also would he even fit our style of play, I have watched him and I am not too sure.
Cheers {Ed002's Note - This has really been thrashed to death.}

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05 Aug 2013 00:56:16
Ed's was just wondering is that story about gerrard rejecting bayern last year true, a few sites have a quote of him saying he had an offer from a champs league club last year but there was no temptation. Was just looking to see if you have any info on that.

Thanks. {Ed002's Note - Yes. It was simply a case of an offer being made for a player and the player not being interested.}

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Cheers for that ed your a star!

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05 Aug 2013 00:07:11
Eds, I know Liverpool are saying that they will probably get "one or two" more signings, but in all honesty, I think we need 3 or 4. We need a LB, a CB, a winger and perhaps a DM. I wouldn't be happy with two.

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05 Aug 2013 00:04:28
Hi Eds. How old does a player have to be before they are allowed to be sent on loan? {Ed002's Note - 18.}

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05 Aug 2013 00:00:32
I love to watch him play but the team play better as a whole without Suarez, score more from other areas and even without his 23 goals we would still have finished 7th.

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04 Aug 2013 23:54:32
Hey eds are the FA bring there own FFP style out think there was some meetings last year, and do you think FIFA will clean the game up when it comes to money etc because I'm not just going say they should because it not fair etc but its getting silly they talk of 20/30/50 m like its nothing 100m for bale players on 100/200/300 k a week it's not there fault because I would take it all day but where's it going to end before big clubs start going pop it would be such a shame if just for that reason, will it be to hard for FIFA to do more then FIFA is that just a start or could they do more or they to scared or powerless to do so sorry if its hard to understand points, if you could share your thoughts on the matter I would be thankful if not there could be a day the likes of joey Barton going for 50/75 m in years to come
Ynwa {Ed002's Note - The FA are looking to bring in some very stringent rules, but there is some way to go before they can all be accepted. FIFA don't come in to this at all really. I am afraid I am struggling with much of the rest of the post.}

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05 Aug 2013 10:04:59
Thanks Ed02 sorry about the rest of the post, my spelling and writing skills are very bad, as you can tell ha many thanks again

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04 Aug 2013 23:38:45
Unbelievable how refreshing this banter page has become since people started registering before posting.
Hardly have to waste time reading rubbish posts. Absolutely wonderful work Eds, much apprreciated.

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04 Aug 2013 23:29:17
Interesting response to my post yesterday from Calmdown. I don't think we should sell Enrique either but the question of signing a LB has been thrown around a bit and I think if we do sign one it should be someone good enough to replace Enrique in the starting 11 and not just for if he's injured, suspended or for Cup ties.

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I think the idea of loaning a left back is great, it gives us a season to see how they settle, if they will be an improvement on Enrique while also giving Robinson a full season out on loan to see if he is going to potentially make the step up.
I don't know enough about the linked left backs to know if they are of good enough quality to push Enrique for a starting position however.

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I think Jose is oke player, but in every game he is not to sure what to do, go forward or keep ball, cross it, or pass it back, and than he goes 2 feet forward sees, he can't past player, keeps ball an pass it or to agger or to coutingo, and slows down our play, so I feel we do need one more LB

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We should loan Baines, see how he does

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04 Aug 2013 23:20:43
Hi Ed's,
Loving the new format. Just a quick question about last nights gala dinner for SG. Do you think it possible that Suarez didn't go to the dinner because of the media circus that would have obviously been around and that it would have been a distraction for Stevie's night? I'm not trying to make excuses for him because personally I support the club, if the club decides he stays he stays and vice versa. I've just noticed that every expression he makes on camera is scrutinised, every gesture etc. I know he appeared at the match and his wife and daughter were there also. Do you think he might just have felt overwhelmed by the occasion or that it runs deeper than that, Simonpw {Ed002's Note - No, it is nothing to do with the media.}

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I just think he is ingnorant and selfish person, that is simply it, if I was soo mad on whole world media and my teammates, I would still give respect to Steven .

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Suarez seems intent on alienating himself. Just another way of trying to force a move.

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04 Aug 2013 23:06:21
Hi Eds,

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04 Aug 2013 23:04:55
I'm under no illusions about the quality of our pre-season opposition but yesterday's game was a tougher test and, thus far, I'm delighted with our progress.
I'm delighted with Mignolet.even Ray Clemence says he's better than Reina!
I'm delighted with Kolo Toure. unflappable and experienced.
I'm delighted with Iago Aspas.goals, flicks, assists, bloody hard work!
I'm delighted with Luis Alberto. will be dynamic!
I'm delighted with Coutinho.who isn't?
I'm delighted with Sturridge. top scorer for 2013/14?
I'm delighted with Ibe, Sterling, Gerrard, Allen, Henderson, Agger, Lucas, Wisdom, Kelly etc.
I'm not delighted by Luis Suarez. If we can sell him for £50m to an overseas Club I'd be delighted.
If we can get £10m for Skrtel I'd be delighted.
If we could sign Costa, Papadopoulis and Turan I'd be rubbing Vanish on my crotch for weeks!
I don't rate Erickson. I don't rate Honda (any more).
I would love Bernard but I know we've no chance.
Loads of players I would love are signed up to their Clubs long-term. Luke Shaw, Jack Wilshere, Alex Oxlaide-Chamberlain etc. !
Whatever our intentions are, I think we are going in the right direction. Suarez will be key to any future negotiations but he's not the be all and end all.
I have faith in Brendan Rodgers
I'm delighted in how it's going. !
ANFIELDPETE {Ed002's Note - Pete, you really need to sign up and register as we are cutting posts from unregistered users.}

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Yea get on it pete those are the kinds of posts we need and want on here so please do register

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Superb post man, . YNWA

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ANFIELDPETE please make sure you sign up, your post made me chuckle (crotch, vanish) and I also agree with you. Nice to have some friendly and well thought out posts, means I can start weaning my laptop of the anti-depressants :)

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