Liverpool Banter Archive August 05 2017

 

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05 Aug 2017 23:25:43
Could Harry Wilson make a breakthrough this season, I definitely think so if given a chance. Kent has done himself no harm in pre-season and Wilson has always looked a level up on him in the youth teams so I am keeping fingers, toes and eyes crossed. He could be a real talent.

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06 Aug 2017 02:45:41
Has he played any pre season games? Is he injured?


06 Aug 2017 03:44:53
Too late for Wilson imo. He's got Salah, Mane and Ket ahead of him so a loan seems the best option.


06 Aug 2017 04:30:17
Unfortunately Wilson's chance was this preseason and he's been injured for most of it, Kent has definitely jumped ahead of him in the pecking order. I think Wilson will probably go out on loan.


06 Aug 2017 07:42:57
Wilson needs to lay off that Ket.


05 Aug 2017 23:10:26
Hi eds pressed send before i finished typing before so i have re submitted it again.

I am really looking forward to the season starting next week. It is slightly dissapointing with not too many signings but maybe that will change before the end of the window ( although Salah is a brilliant signing) . Hope we are ok with injuries from now on bar the Lallana one we have a good squad and if everyone fit we only need a better cb than Lovren and we could have a brilliant season. I feel we will be really good in the chamlions league aswell judging by how well we have done the previous season against good oposition. Everybody chill out regarding signings it is not the end of the world if we do not sign anybody else. let's just support the club we love and see how things go. You never know some players may step up and surprise us this season. No matter what happens next season i will be fully behind the team and players we have available. YNWA.

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05 Aug 2017 23:29:50
tightfisted fsg

22m spent in four windows under klopp.


06 Aug 2017 00:15:56
And in the champions league with only 22 mill spent.

The sky's the limit if he gets to 25.


06 Aug 2017 02:24:19
no not really. not without signing some quality in depth.

our squad broke down last january because it couldn't handle the stresses of a solely domestic schedual one match per week and with meagre additions to it how will it sustain 2 games weekly.

where is the genuine quality in depth in order to rotate.


{Ed001's Note - nothing to do with stress, it was a lack of leadership when it was needed.}

06 Aug 2017 03:46:57
Why do people obsess over the net spend? Its improving the squad that matters, leave the money matters to the people that get paid to do so. WE have improved no doubt in preparation for the upcoming season but signing a top class CB has become a priority after witnessing Lovren's continuing brain farts.


06 Aug 2017 07:15:48
I do agree, when you looked st our bench at times, it was no where near good enough and that was without any European football.

Ed001 is also correct, we had no leadership and if Jwndo gets injured again, not sure where it's going to come from.

We also have no leader at the back imo.


06 Aug 2017 07:40:43
Tom1975, the net spend is a pathetically false narrative. We spent near 80m last season. That is not net spend. That is expenditure, pure and simple. The owners gave Klopp what he wanted and were ready to give him the sums needed for NK and/ or VVD but saying they were/ are tight-fisted is laughable and dishonest. Klopp decides who we spend money on, not FSG as the Ed's have said numerous times. I'm not an FSG apologist, BTW. Just stating facts.

As for last season, our team did not suffer from any stress, fatigue or nothing at all. Our boys were just devoid of ideas and self belief in those games and once we got into some sticky spots in games, our heads would drop and we would start making mistakes. I do agree that more leadership on the pitch is needed and this is where players like Matip andf Migs should take over as they are more experienced. Milner is not a leader hence, can not be trusted to bring any leadership.


06 Aug 2017 07:43:45
Meant if Hendo gets injured lol.


06 Aug 2017 08:20:51
Stop crying you tarts.

Loads of time for additions.


06 Aug 2017 11:38:27
woluwe

jan feb in juries hit hard mainyl due to the physical demands and stresses of the season to that point.

it was like our team got a puncture midseason due to lack of genuine quality replacements on the bench

examine our bench for watford and see how many genuine first 11 standard players are on it. i ll say 1, emre can. that's it and its not good enough.

net spend is rather important when it could purchase the two world class players we arguably need to turn us into title contenders. world class footballers don't come for free.


06 Aug 2017 14:18:27
What a happy bunch of people on here. No point in trying to be positive. Fsg out klopp out for tapping up. Coutinho to go on strike to get a move. Van dijk to chelsea. Ox to replace can who is going to juve. Hendo to be injured. Matip and lovren both to be injured. Moreno as our left back. We will be lucky to finish in the top half and will get knocked out vs hoffenheim. What is the point of us supporting them. May aswell give my season ticket away to somebody who can go the game and boo in my place.


06 Aug 2017 22:21:41
Last years team improved towards the end of last season.
The youngsters are more experienced and of a high quality.
Add to this Robertson, a natural left back
Solanke
Sturridge
Salah.
More competition in goal.

We are way stronger.


05 Aug 2017 22:52:42
Lads straight up, what's the story with Coutinho? I have never thought that he was gona leave but a lot of rumours are flying about. Would love to hear your thoughts?

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05 Aug 2017 23:36:43
If he wants to leave then cash in whilst we can drive the price up due to there current windfall.

Buy a striker to replace.
1. Lewandowski (probably impossible)
2. Belotti (personal fave)
3. Vardy
4. Inaki Williams (match day fever)

Possibly grab another winger kieta balde or lanzini type who can operate across the front 3.

If he's happy to stay till next year then keep and make plans for next year.


06 Aug 2017 00:03:39
he won't be sold in this window. i hope. because we aren't proving too rubbish hoit at recruiting our trgets and we don't seem to have any genuine quality alternatives to our primary targets

i have feared since loverens 100k a week salary hike that he would be our starting 11 centre back this season and that our defense wouldn't relly improve. it is looking more and more likely that this will be the case.


06 Aug 2017 00:08:04
If we sold Coutinho and bought Vardy with the money i wouldn't know whether to laugh or cry.


06 Aug 2017 00:22:51
Vardy? You might as well just burn the cash.


06 Aug 2017 00:35:33
I am almost certain Coutinho will leave for Barcelona.

I am not happy about this and hope I am wrong.
Unfortunately I do not think I am wrong. He will leave.


06 Aug 2017 07:45:44
He won't leave this window, IMO. We need him and we need to keep him just like RBL stood their ground with us regarding Keita. Now if he officially asks to leave (transfer request) then so be it and even then, we should stand our ground cos he signed an extension only months ago and if he wanted to leave, he should not have signed it hence, he owes us at least one more season as we will then have time to find a replacement for him. If we just buckle and sell him now without the time to get in a suitable replacement (No, Gylfi, Lanzini, Rakitic, Rafinha, Meyer are non starters, IMO) then we will regret it, Big Time.


05 Aug 2017 22:47:30
Sky sports reporting that Klopp has hinted LFC's transfer business during this window is over. I sincerely hope this is a red herring.

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05 Aug 2017 23:18:40
I just saw the post Dublin match press conference on tv. He clearly said nothing of the sort. He said they have until August 31st and that they were " keeping their eyes open". He also said he was happy with some of the older players regaining form and the new additions and mentioned them by name. If Sky wants to interpret that as him saying the window is shut, it's up to you to believe them.


05 Aug 2017 23:20:09
Klopp has hinted that buisness is done and people are jumping the gun for starters sly sports talk rubbish secondly he is hardly going to say we are trying to sign a b and c whatever happens let it be I will support my team through thick and thin regardless of what money is spent.


06 Aug 2017 02:29:58
Hopefully Klopp has learnt his lesson then as he usually tells every man and his dog which a, b or c he wants to sign.


06 Aug 2017 07:48:00
Klopp talked a lot and said nothing, all in the same statement so if Sly or the media want to draw their own conclusions and whind people up then that is surely not his fault.


05 Aug 2017 22:29:48
EDs, just wanted to send out an early warning, prepare yourselves.

Klopp has just announced that Liverpool will be making no more moves in this transfer window. So brace your self for a lot of moaning, whining and complaining in the next 27 days. This site will be littered with it, it will be unending.

Best of luck and know that you will be in my thoughts :P.

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05 Aug 2017 22:54:32
It's hardly the eds faults. People ain't going to moan at them their just moaning about the club they support. But I guess your happy with the window and success we have had over the last 10 - 20 years.


05 Aug 2017 22:56:19
Klopp did not anounce that we will make no more signings. He did mention having players improved that we never used much last season and also milner could play in midfield now that Moreno has looked good and Robertson. He also mentioned we are looking all over the world for players. We will not sign a player just for the sake of signing somebody which is why we have not changed our target from


05 Aug 2017 23:05:33
He said he is open to transfers up to 31st August.


05 Aug 2017 23:17:25
Rubbish he stated nothing of the sort. Just that Moreno has come on leaps and bounds and Milner is a midfield option again.


{Ed025's Note - yeah thats just rubbish..

05 Aug 2017 23:37:29
At this very moment, Alberto Moreno is our best left back.
The lad seems to have listened to criticism and worked hard on his game. He deserves another chance and hopefully he won't let us down. I hope Klopp keeps him and he continues to impress.
As for other transfers. I won't be giving up on until 11pm on 31/ 08/ 17.


{Ed025's Note - one swallow does not a summer make..

06 Aug 2017 00:01:45
do we have any centre back alternative to vvd in mind? if so why not?

and also if klopp identified midfield as an area to strengthen with a bid for keita why has he not lined upo any alternatives?

it would seem rather follish to spend an entire window with only one target for each position required.


{Ed002's Note - As I have said, the only CBs looked at as far as we know were kiddies.}

06 Aug 2017 01:02:04
no Ed but it sure does make for a decent evening.


06 Aug 2017 02:17:53
so klopp is all or nothign on van dyk and all or nothing on keita.

seems a strange transfer strategy . only one midfielder and one specific defender will do.

thats a narrow field of targets.


{Ed001's Note - and kept a watching brief on Oxlade-Chamberlain.}

06 Aug 2017 02:32:22
Josh, it's probably not the best move to come out of the closet on a footie site.


06 Aug 2017 04:38:22
You can't rely on Moreno. Robertson is a better fit for left back.


06 Aug 2017 07:51:15
Ron, that is why Robertson is here. If Moreno screws up (if he starts which is not set in stone yet, btw) then he is benched immediately. That's how footie works.


06 Aug 2017 10:37:56
Thanks for that Woluwe 🙄.


05 Aug 2017
New image uploaded to the
Liverpool Player Sightings page entitled, VVD in a red shirt?

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05 Aug 2017 22:01:33
Now pre season over, a few conclusions can be drawn. Mignolet number one, loveren still clumsy as ever, clyne overtaken by trent, origi and ings regressed and overtaken by solanke. Grujic looks good, klavan still klavan in a bad way, karius still not pushing for no one spot, and flanno not going to keep place in squad. Will can stay and vvd arrive. not fussed tbh.

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05 Aug 2017 22:11:34
I don't think Can will sign a new contract and VVD is pretty much going to be a Chelsea player.


05 Aug 2017 22:28:44
Thats a fair assessment but I think you're being a bit tough on Origi and Inges,

Origis posistional play was excellent but He should have finished better.

Danny Inges, come Christmas will be like a new duracell battery boost for the squad. He's had a rough time and his reaction shows his determination to play for L F C.


05 Aug 2017 22:37:03
Now I am worried klopp has said transfer business is done is that correct please tell me it's sky sports BS.


05 Aug 2017 23:20:23
Origi had at least 2 clear cut chance tonight and thought I think he is a good player any hAlf decent player would have stuck those chances away he hasn't moved on imo.


05 Aug 2017 23:20:39
Means phil staying then good news.


06 Aug 2017 00:13:03
Yes he should have scored but at least he was in the right posistion at the right time to have the chance.
But your right, goals win games.

I think there is more to come from him.


06 Aug 2017 00:05:56
is that it, we sign no one else and our great triumph is phil staying

meanwhile our defensive pairing is still as weak as last season, our bench still has lots of unproven youth on it and we ll play 2 games weekly instead of the 1 a week that the squad couldn't cope with last season.


06 Aug 2017 08:01:23
Spot on, LFCder. Origi may not have had the preseason he himself may have wanted and yes, he should have buried his chances. However, he was very good overall with his movement, dribbling and overall hold up play. Solanke is a different type of player. He is very good on the ground, decent pace and much better in the air than Origi. Origi however, is the better dribbler and has better footwork. Both players offer something different which can only be good for us this season. Why should one have to go and the other stay? We can have both of them, right?


05 Aug 2017 21:51:16
I don't have inside info but I do think and hope Can will sign a new deal before next weekend.
Hope we sign a decent CB before the end of the window too, would love Toby A. from Spurs but 0% chance sadly.
Klavan is good enough for 3rd or 4th choice at best surely, even though he did good today - he's not as bad as some would have you believe but is a decent backup.
Hope Gomez goes on loan (if not getting a run of games), returns next summer and takes Klavan's/ Lovren's spot.
Coutinho to stay. one more season!
Now let's play.

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05 Aug 2017 22:12:11
Klavan isn't good enough for the u23's. He always makes goal costing mistakes.


05 Aug 2017 23:21:45
Examples please of him always doing this?


06 Aug 2017 00:27:01
Actually not long ago Kev, the Atletico match, he lost the man he was marking then stood watching the play as he followed in to score when he should have been alert to the danger and got to the ball before the striker. Standard stuff. He makes calamitous mistakes on a regular basis. There are far too many from last season to go through.


06 Aug 2017 12:38:31
I knew you'd suggest that pre-season friendly goal funny enough when players aren't sharp so play these games to try to get up to speed, but what competitive games has he cost us in? Not trying to be smart but you said he always makes goal costing mistakes.


05 Aug 2017 21:50:23
Two reports doing the rounds on the net this evening.

"Good news for Liverpool as Barcelona reportedly turn their attentions away from Philippe Coutinho"

"Philippe Coutinho's Barcelona move is 'hours' away"

Which headline is correct Ed's?

vrcomp
Y. N. W. A.

Believable1 Unbelievable1

05 Aug 2017 23:17:29
Whichever one comes true.


05 Aug 2017 21:30:12
Posting after long on here. Wish the team and staff a very successful season. Klopp should get his substitutions and rotation correct in this long season. Would have liked him to have given more youngsters a chance last time round, hope we see some make the match day squad, with the odd 10-15 mins. In the players hands, not Klopp alone. Make headway with respect to PR this season with no BS. No whining about fixtures come Christmas or towards end of season. Onwards and upwards, an important season for us. Ynwa.

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05 Aug 2017 20:54:12
Just sharing incase anyone missed Klopps post-match interview?

On transfers, he suggested that Moreno is 100% back after a difficult year and that it will be Moreno and Robertson at LB this year with Milner moving into CM.

Also mentioned that Ryan Kent has been improving very well and he will be a new player for them this year, so expect him around rather than sending out on loan.

I know that transfers are exciting but I'd be quite happy if we just gave young players a go and built from within.

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05 Aug 2017 21:19:22
Got to give credit where it's due Moreno has worked hard over the preseason you never know he could be the next Lucas give the lad a chance he's young and took some time to adapt but if he's working hard and works on the defensive side he could be oright.


05 Aug 2017 21:49:58
Moreno is reborn and I'm starting to hope that maybe the penny has finally dropped for him cos the past two games, he's been great. I am happy Kent is being kept cos he along with, Woody (great goal vs Bilbao), Grujic, TAA, Ejaria and Solanke will only get better with more game time.


05 Aug 2017 22:13:07
Milner in centre midfield is not good. Not good at all.


05 Aug 2017 23:22:52
Moreno has had 1 and a half good games in about 2 years. let's not get carried away. I'd still sell him.


05 Aug 2017 23:33:53
I was at the game. Gomez and Grujic looked great. They really looked like they have the ability to shine at a higher level. Fingers crossed.

Origi looked 2 seconds behind the thinking of Salah and Bobby. I hope for his sake that's just pre season stuff.


05 Aug 2017 20:51:03
Can't wait for the season to start! Great pre-season, exciting new players, Coutinho and Can will either stay or they won't, he who shall not be mentioned and VVD will either join or they won't - I don't care cos I get to watch mighty LFC once or twice a week! Bring it on. YNWA 🏆🏆⚽️⚽️.

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{Ed025's Note - i like your style mate..

06 Aug 2017 00:01:41
could not agree more. i think we will have a GREAT season, finish top 4, get to the knock out stage of the champions league and win one of the domestic cups. YNWA!


05 Aug 2017 20:00:39
If anyone fancies a laugh, it's worth taking a look on the Southampton pages, they are temporarily taking over the red Mancs and bitters.

Cant stop taking about Liverpool 😂😂😂.

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{Ed025's Note - i think they may be laughing at you lot nicky..

05 Aug 2017 20:45:48
Ha, didn't southampton just get wacked 4 0, while we had a very good win today, I am still laughing ha .


05 Aug 2017 21:02:50
Not from where I'm siting Ed25.

They sound just like the mob across the park and the moneybags, plastics that need a singing section - at the other end of the East Lancs or for those more modern - the m62.


05 Aug 2017 21:53:33
Don't worry, Ed. Like your lot, they'll be back parking two buses at Anfield for their "Wold Cup Final".


{Ed025's Note - when we play you its more likely to be a relegation 3 pointer mate..

05 Aug 2017 19:44:15
Correct me if I'm wrong as I watched the game on my phone so it's hard to tell, but was that klavan that whipped the ball in to solanke? If so where the hell did he get that from?

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05 Aug 2017 19:49:02
Alien itervention.


05 Aug 2017 19:49:14
It was 😄.


05 Aug 2017 19:52:40
It was and with his weak foot too! Fair play to him, could do with a few more players able to whip in a cross with Goalanke ripping it up.


{Ed025's Note - both of his feet are weak..not to mention his brain..

05 Aug 2017 20:20:49
Klavan is left footed, so no, it wasn't his weak foot.


05 Aug 2017 20:46:54
about time Klavan did something really good .


05 Aug 2017 21:57:53
to be fair to him, he's not a bad passer with his left foot - it's is defending that's a problem.


05 Aug 2017 22:06:18
Is he actually? My mistake, never noticed.


05 Aug 2017 21:55:25
Ed, you mean like Ashley Williams' two left feet and Funes Mori's brain or lack thereof?


{Ed025's Note - not a fan of either myself woluwe...still miles better than klavan though as he is about as poor as you get mate..

06 Aug 2017 00:26:13
Just think, if Brenda was still in charge Klavan could end up playing on the wing after pinging in a cross of that quality :D. those were the days ay?


05 Aug 2017 19:38:41
Hello Eds,

Even though i agree that we might need an upgrade on the centre backs, but they aren't helped by how we play without a defensive midfielder?

There is no other team i can recollect which plays without one. We leave the CBs' hanging out to dry when we lose the ball in attacking positions and there is a counter attack. Henderson and Can are not proper DMs. Do you think we should have bought a DM more than focusing on a CB? I am worried that we have not addressed our short comings.

Cheers, Ashish.

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{Ed025's Note - its a fair point ashish and obviously klopp wanted one with the persuit of he who cant be mentioned mate..

05 Aug 2017 19:48:58
Our defence and keeper play well for 89 mins of a game and then turn into Sunday league players for 1 minute of it. Nought to do with a defensive midfielder in my opinion. Majority of goals we concede are usually down to individual mistakes.


05 Aug 2017 20:26:53
Thoroughly agree. People talk as though signing a new CB will suddenly keep us loads of clean sheets.

The way we set up and defend as a unit will help that.


05 Aug 2017 21:59:36
Spot on, Jayden and Agger. People can be so myopic when it comes to our method of defending. The system we play leaves us exposed regardless of if you have Paulo Maldini back there. Klopp does not play with a true DM so that is a moot point. Klopp requires everyone to be switched on defensively as soon as we lose the ball. That is the system and even tho goals will be conceded, it is not a big deal provided the individual errors are cut out which is what we need to do, first and foremost.


05 Aug 2017 21:20:31
cheers Ed025.


06 Aug 2017 07:14:01
Goals we're conceding are not from teams carving us up on the counter, they are from stupid individual errors and an inability to head away a corner.


05 Aug 2017 19:28:34
Whoever posted yesterday wondering about Ben Woodburns quality.

Please stand corrected.

What a goal!

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05 Aug 2017 19:34:20
Brilliant goal, Solanke's wasn't too bad either!

We have some serious pace up front.


05 Aug 2017 19:41:43
I've said he's been one of the best in pre-season.
He'll replace Lallana.


05 Aug 2017 20:19:13
Thats a fairly big claim Ron.


05 Aug 2017 22:00:02
In time Ron i agree - but 2 seasons away. He looks at his best in midfield as (like Lallana) he's got good movement, quick feet and a good pass on him but not a natural winger or striker IMO.


05 Aug 2017 22:00:34
Don't know about him replacing Lallana but that goal was pure quality.


05 Aug 2017 22:09:58
I agree with Ron,

In fact the sky is the limit for Ben.

Have you noticed how he naturally finds space,

A bit more work on the play without the ball, defensively, and to stay injury free as he's proably still growing.

I think he's heading for the top.


05 Aug 2017 19:25:51
Emre Can will be the rising star at LFC this coming season. .

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05 Aug 2017 20:18:05
If he is here!


05 Aug 2017 18:56:59
What have you made of Solanke's pre season ed 001? Looking very good I thought.

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{Ed001's Note - it's preseason, it is only about getting fit.}

05 Aug 2017 19:09:44
Ed001 tell us something we don't know. You're allowed to have an opinion on how players perform in preseason you know. ;)


{Ed001's Note - but I don't have one, it is pointless judging players on it.}

05 Aug 2017 19:44:23
Exactly Ed, Moreno is quality pre-season but just wait until next week. eek! 😬😬😬😬.


05 Aug 2017 19:50:21
I've been impressed with Solanke. Let's hope Klopp has too and gives him some quality minutes this season. He is after all competing for 1 place against 4 other players.


05 Aug 2017 21:22:25
I'd put solanke ahead of origi them two sitters he missed he would have buried.


05 Aug 2017 22:03:15
I understand why you saw that Ed but I think it's also noticeable how Solanke takes up good positions in the box and is very good in the air (tall, good timing, places his headers well) .

I really like Origi but one thing he's still not great at, despite his height, is heading the ball, and I think with some playing time to develop further Solanke could hopefully end up a bit like Kane (ie. tall, good at hold-up play but also able to score all sorts of goals)


05 Aug 2017 18:54:59
Evening gents! Just watching the game now looking forward to Watford next weekend! Wanted to know if anyone has any idea what we're doing with Kent. Is he staying or going out on loan? I'd love to see him stay. Good back up for Mane and Salah. What do you lot think?

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05 Aug 2017 19:26:13
The post-match commentary was absolutely priceless.

"look at this, you don't see many managers in the premier league getting in there with the fans, signing things and taking selfies like this, absolutely fantastic"

I know they've been getting a hammering from people saying the team don't interact with the fans enough but really?

So cringe.


05 Aug 2017 19:28:19
I would like him to stay as well but you can guarantee that our fan base will lose there heads and demand signings.


05 Aug 2017 18:52:50
After watching the 1st half that must explain to every one why we need a central defender lovern is a liability me for one don't think we have a chance with vvd but I'd certainly make a strong bid for him we look so Poor at the back at times. we need a leader at the back which we are missing may be good going forward but at the back we look so suspect. What a dream if macca is right with vvd.

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05 Aug 2017 19:26:19
I think our problem in the first half was midfield. Milner is a wide player IMO and not a central midfielder, and the Can/ Milner/ Grujic trio didn't gel. Having said that, Athletic did a reasonable job on the high press and limiting space.

Second half I felt we moved it around quicker and Gini did a good job of dictating play and moving the ball quickly so we looked better even with the youngsters in there. Solanke also looked good and took his goal really well.

They key messages for me from preseason would be
- Mane, Firmino and Salah look deadly upfront and should be our starting lineup IM. sides will struggle to contain those 3
- Hendo, and Can/ Gini look decent at base of midfield but we look better with either Coutinho or Lallana in the slightly more advanced attacking midfield role to disrupt defensive patterns otherwise we can look a bit static
- TAA looks ready at RB IMO
- Still think we need one more top CB
- Expect Karius to start in goal

Can't wait for next weekend.


05 Aug 2017 19:27:20
Marv, you can certainly manage a more smooth backtracking of your earlier comments about VVD, can't you? Come on. Try.


05 Aug 2017 19:46:19
Ra1969 what I'm trying to say is yes Id love vvd and in my opinion ( which we all have one) I don't think we will get him after the so called tapping up saga but if or the paper talk fourm sites
Report we are going in for him just go out and make a very good bid if we don't intend to we need to look some were else man u. Chelsea. Man City have strengthend at the back and it's clear to me we need a top cb coming in if we are to compete.


05 Aug 2017 20:02:56
Marv, I was referring to the below post:

"3.) 01 Aug 2017
01 Aug 2017 22:58:27
What a joke how many times have i said on this forum vvd ain't happening don't no were you get this rubbish information from oh let me guess TWITTER or this vvd is getting boring when you have real transfer news like when a player signs let us no better the eds love this oh I'll put one out
Marv 96"

Yes, you're entitled to your opinion, like the rest of us. You're also entitled to change it completely to a full 180 degree turn, apparently. Just pointing it out. Many of us do actually read and remember.


05 Aug 2017 20:30:15
OK then ra1969 do you in your opinion think we will sign vvd or another cb?


05 Aug 2017 20:51:51
My opinion is that I hope we sign him, because we definitely need help in our defense. No question about it. But I've never mocked the possibility of it happening as you did in the post that I quoted. But VVD is not "priceless", so if it doesn't happen then I trust Klopp to get someone else. As far as whether it will happen or not, the media and this page have done such a number on my head with the constant "signing this week" nonsense, that I realized I don't actually need to have an opinion. Just wait and see what happens and hope for the best. Football is way beyond who's signing this summer and who's not.


05 Aug 2017 20:54:25
Zimbo, good post, but Migs is a def starter in goal,
Marv, how about Ben Gibson, he was really good last season, and wants to move .


05 Aug 2017 21:14:59
Yes I agree with you ra1969 and redforeve if not vvd think gibson would be a good choice mate.


05 Aug 2017 22:02:58
Gibson is the one we should have gotten instead of getting ourselves caught up with the whole VVD nonsense.


05 Aug 2017 18:52:03
I've been reserving judgement until the end of preseason but now can I say grujic is a class act and if he doesn't get decent game time this season he should really go elsewhere cos his talent was completely wasted last season! He looked super last preseason because of a few great goals and that but this season all that aside he just has the look of a super footballer who has an excellent brain for the game!

He is so composed on the ball and his passes are so good. He could maybe work a little bit on his long range stuff and his positioning but he's young and that will constantly improve! But the way he moves the ball out of his feet and at such pace sometimes literally with his first touch were as players far more experienced would take two or 3 touches is world class and I really think he can develop into a top top midfielder.

Really hope is isn't underused again this season especially with the extra games if we can go far in the cups.

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05 Aug 2017 19:14:12
Wasn't he injured mostly last season?


05 Aug 2017 17:16:11
Sorry if I missed it but why no Hendo today.

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{Ed002's Note - Sick.}

05 Aug 2017 17:47:01
Medical at Barcelona.


05 Aug 2017 18:34:30
Haha😂😂.

Thanks Jim. Appreciate the light relief. Much needed.


05 Aug 2017 18:38:41
Klopp has given Henderson an extended Holiday.


05 Aug 2017 19:40:46
Love a bit of light relief.


{Ed025's Note - hand is my favourite davey..

05 Aug 2017 17:04:17
I'm at the match. No sign of Couts in the warm up?

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{Ed002's Note - Injured.}

05 Aug 2017 17:53:38
Or rather "injured".


05 Aug 2017 18:12:43
Sore back.


05 Aug 2017 18:49:05
Thanks Ed02 and all.


05 Aug 2017 20:03:24
I didn't see you there.


05 Aug 2017 16:41:19
We must keep our players.

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05 Aug 2017 15:36:20
When did kit prices rise so high aha? I normally get one off my old man on my birthday, so not bought one in years think last time I did I paid £30 for a men's, just been to get one for my little man and it was £38 for size 12-18months? the things tiny, mental.

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05 Aug 2017 16:41:51
Was thinking the same £45 for one for my nephew who's 8 months old.


05 Aug 2017 15:14:18
What channel is the game on not got LFC channel.

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05 Aug 2017 14:57:04
Nothing would frustrate me more than Van Dijk going to Chelsea of all teams. Seems most seasons their on the look out to nab players from teams around them so they can't have them even when they've strengthened in that area already with Rudiger😑.

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05 Aug 2017 15:21:54
If he did we would only have ourselves to blame.


05 Aug 2017 16:08:20
Don't worry at least we still hand Klavan.


05 Aug 2017 18:30:08
If only you were joking FMS.


05 Aug 2017 14:11:52
No team in the top six needed strengthening in defense than LFC.

ManU, ManC, Chelsea, have gone to strengthen their defense.

I don't mind Liverpool loosing VVD but loosing him to Chelsea which already has a solid defense unit is abysmal.

Nevertheless I can't wait for the season to start .

LFC. Will play the most entertaining football again.

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05 Aug 2017 14:18:23
Totally agree on the defence. We won't win anything with a defence that lacks leaders and can't play as a solid unit.

Big mistake by Klopp not to get a quality centre half in this window.

Top 4 is going to be tough this season. Doesn't matter how many we score, we can't rely on having to score 4 because we concede 3!


05 Aug 2017 14:18:38
I believe we'll get him Tegar, everything is pointing towards it and I refuse to believe the club are just sitting back and waiting for next season, fully content with our squad.


05 Aug 2017 14:23:22
How haven't we strengthened in defence? We've replaced Clyne with Alexander-Arnold, replaced Milner with Robertson, and Gomez is back from a long term injury. Additionally, Matip played half of last season recovering from an ankle operation, then missed a month due to the AFCON dispute, and is now settled into English football. When Matip and Lovren were both fit our defence was actually decent. Besides it was exaggerated how bad we were defensively anyway. I'm fairly sure we had the 5th best defence in the league, despite having Lucas and Milner (two midfielders) playing there regularly.

I agree with you that we could do with a top centre back, but to say we've not got a stronger defence than we had last season is a flat out lie.


05 Aug 2017 14:42:39
MK Scouser, you say we had the 5th best defense in the league. So where did that get us in spite of having a free scoring team?
Yes, barely scraped 4th and that too without European Football to contend with. Like it or not, LFC's defense is not going to win us any major titles and we need to strengthen. Robertson is a half decent LB while Gomez will take a while to build his confidence after two serious injuries. And Matip is not great as everyone makes him out to be so we do need a leader at the back and if Klopp believes VVD is that guy then FSG need to back him.


05 Aug 2017 14:57:36
Buzzer I agree with you completely so I'm not sure what your point is mate.

I was merely pointing out the dramatization of the original post. We have strengthened our defence. We have two better full backs and a highly talented young centre back. In an ideal world, I'd like to replace Lovren in the starting XI with a dominant centre back with good organisational skills. But if that doesn't happen I won't go into meltdown. Matip is a good ball playing centre back, but he needs a stronger partner than Lovren. Kind of like how Agger looked great next to Carragher, but got exposed next to Skrtel. Matip needs a Carragher type alongside him.


05 Aug 2017 15:02:05
Far too much panicking going on.

Not a ball kicked in anger this season and already people are saying we won't win anything.

Talk about doubters 🙄.


05 Aug 2017 15:11:17
Ron, whilst I admire your "always be positive" attitude, people right now are simply being realistic about the club's prospects next season. The trend over past years has not been kind to LFC after bouts of optimism and toning down expectations before the season starts is expected by most LFC fans who honestly do not take a below par season very well (the Eds can attest to that) .


05 Aug 2017 15:34:30
Anyone that thinks we can fight on all fronts for trophies plus achieve top four status again - with Lovren and Klavan, for me, need their heads seeing to.

And there will come a time when Matip ( or Gomez) gets injured.


05 Aug 2017 16:03:49
Tegar

Does Robertson, whatever his merits, not address the left back situation? Moreover, is the transfer window closed already?

Why not wait for LFC to do 'nothing', window to close and THEN have your whinge? You be free to bleat and bitch on then on the basis of something.

Until then, posts like these be nothing more than girly moaning drivel that litters these pages.

Can you just sit down and let the club get on with its business, which it still has until 31AUGUST, to complete. NOT 5 AUGUST, BUT 31ST AUGUST.

And before someone rushes to tell me your entitled to your opinion, sure you are, but that's not the point. The point is that your opinion is baseless and premature and embarrassing for so-called most educated fans in the world.

Just chill ok.


05 Aug 2017 16:44:21
Free scoring team? How many of the lesser sides did we fail to break down.


05 Aug 2017 18:23:43
Do you really think that buying better defenders will win us the league or mske us the best defence in the league?
Our system is the main reason for our defensive issues. We will batter teams again next year but those silly results will happen again.
Who thinks signing VVD will solve our problems? Not for me. The only way a single player will improve us defensively is if we signed a DeGea, otherwise it'll be the same problems just with a bugger wage bill!
For our system to make us champions needs us to have significantly better players than our opponets which isn't the case.


05 Aug 2017 18:34:22
Sirshanks.

Did you not see how many goals we conceded from set pieces last season?

The amount of times, opposition forwards easily got goal side of Klavan, Lovren and Lucas when drafted in?

If you get the chance, take a look back, see how our championship winning sides of the 70's and 80's lined up in defence.


06 Aug 2017 02:03:18
Nick, read my post again. We never played thus system in the 70s or 80s so the comparison is irrelevant.


05 Aug 2017 13:23:54
Question for the eds pls.

If we have ended our interest VVD - a few weeks ago by all account- why haven't we moved for another centre back? I can't get my head around it. Surely this was identified as an area for strengthening.

Cheers,
Scott.

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{Ed002's Note - Not originally. The only centre back that was being looked at before the briefing was a youngster.}

05 Aug 2017 14:07:03
Thanks ed.

Is that Klopp's decision or the owners, not to search for a new centre back?

By youngsters do you mean promote from within or only look at bringing in youth?

Thanks.


{Ed002's Note - The owners don't pick the players.}

05 Aug 2017 14:16:16
Loud and clear ed.

Thanks,
Scott.


05 Aug 2017 13:13:26
Hi guys. I own a pub and id like to offer franklymrshankly a job.
He would be ideal to help clear the place at closing time.
So if you can fit it in inbetween your time volunteering at the local Samaritans call centre let me know. 😂😂😂.

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05 Aug 2017 13:59:36
It may surprise you to hear that my favourite bands are Radiohead, The Smiths and Joy Division.


05 Aug 2017 15:11:53
Nice one Kenneth. employ him, soon as you want everyone out you just get frankly to go round talking to the punters, not only will they leave but t they won't be coming back. they'll be so depressed they'll be topping themselves.


05 Aug 2017 15:23:00
3 superb bands frankly I can't argue with your music tastes, but have a bit more faith about liverpools chances for the upcoming season, we could have plenty to look forward to at home and in Europe, btw im listening to soundgarden's fell on black days as I write this, yet im still positive about all things Liverpool fc.


05 Aug 2017 16:10:39
I have absolutely no faith is us at all this season. There's no reason to think we'll win anything as we aren't good enough.


05 Aug 2017 16:46:55
This will be a quiet site soon, nothing to comment on as so many believe the season is over already
Players have gone and gone before and will continue to go so.
Such fickle fans we are.


05 Aug 2017 12:50:39
Be glad get September here so can stop reading posts about same thing every day. Same questions all time so boring who ever comes or leaves nothing we can do but support the team and players im sure the owners and klopp want success and best players avaiable bring on the season ynwa.

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05 Aug 2017 12:47:18
Be glad get September here so can stop reading posts about same thing every day. Same questions all time so boring who ever comes or leaves nothing we can do but support the team and players im sure the owners and klopp want success and best players avaiable bring on the season ynwa.

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05 Aug 2017 13:08:16
Yeah but it's not boring and you can't just brush it away every fan wants to know what's happening at there club.


05 Aug 2017 13:11:02
Once September hits there'll be a week or two of posters asking about non-contracted players, followed by weeks and months of the same speculations heading into Jan!


05 Aug 2017 13:32:39
If yiu guys have it your way, there will be no posts on here to read! If you find it boring, don't read it. Its that simple.


05 Aug 2017 12:29:21
Ed001 thanks for your great work i wanna hear your views do u think we will add VVD as things are at the moment going he is not ready to play for southampton and do u think we are gud enough to challenge for title and champions league as well with the current crop .

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{Ed001's Note - no idea. Yes we are good enough to challenge.}

05 Aug 2017 13:15:16
I can't see that we are, it's largely the same squad with the same glaring problems as last year that didn't come close to winning the league or win any trophies and we've got more games to contend with next year. Unless Chelsea, City, United and Spurs will all have to have a comeplete catastrophe like when Leicester won the league.


05 Aug 2017 13:36:48
Players should improve every season.
For a team to get better. They don't always have to buy new players. Sometimes keeping a almost similar squad, but with players improving and maturing, the squad gets better.
Last season Lallana and Firminho imprived from the seasin before. Coutinho scored more goals last season than the season prior to that.
So just with those 3, we had a better side last season than we had the season before.


05 Aug 2017 14:19:02
Off course we can compete but we would need to be fortunate on the injury side and hope the players don't lose their form too much. Also that the defence play like they did towards the end of last season. Do all that and we are in with a shout but its a big ask to go all season with few injuries and keep form. Personally, after saying all that, i think we will struggle.


05 Aug 2017 13:43:39
I agree with frankly here, we haven't been efficient enough this window and clearly haven't targeted many players in positions we should have been looking to strengthen. It's just another window indicating the problems we have with the scouting/ recruitment team. Salah is a very good buy that clearly improves the first 11. Solanke is a striker with awesome potential who I think we will see a good amount this season, however it was in a position that wasn't a priority and where we already had good players (firmino sturridge, origi, ings) . Robertson for many, just seems like a cheap option, an ok player that doesn't really improve the position, or at least that is yet to be seen. I'll back him of course but I feel the same about this transfer as I did with the Karius transfer.

We haven't even been efficient if clearing the dead wood, our business as a whole has been as bad or worse than summers gone by. This was the summer to get a small group of players that improved the first 11 and get rid of players that brought in decent fees (sahko, markovic etc) . If I have an aim for this season in correlation to the current squad, I'd be happy if we maintained our top 4 status, not sure if that's the aim or not but our transfer dealings indicate that to be the case. Sorry if this sounds pessimistic but I can't be the only one concerned with our shortcomings so far.


05 Aug 2017 11:55:00
I know its a little but of a wild suggestion, but if Coutinho is going to Barcelona to replace Iniesta, why not ask for Iniesta as part of the deal? He is still world class and probably second only to Modric in world football as a playmaker. Salah can replace Coutinho's goals, but he cannot control the game like Coutinho. Iniesta can control the game without breaking into a jog, he still presses with intelligence, and he would bring an unrivalled winning mentality. No player in the history of the game can match his technical ability or vision.

He is only 33 (same age Alonso joined Bayern at) which means he has at least 3 years left. Who better for Woodburn to learn from if we want him to be the long term magician in our midfield?

Anyway, it is just a thought. I'd have us down for the title if we bagged Iniesta though. He is probably in the top 5 players in the world even today. No idea if he'd leave Barcelona though. He might fancy a wind down on his career playing second fiddle to younger players in sunny Spain.

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05 Aug 2017 12:10:44
Iniesta is past his best and there is no way he will last the distance in a frantic premier league campaign. I'd take Isco or Kovacic as Coutinho's replacement (if he leaves which imo is unlikely) . Both are creative midfielder who can start attacks from the deep with fantastic passing range and long range shooting.


05 Aug 2017 12:11:43
You'll probably be slagged for it MK but it's not the craziest thing I've heard. Still thing he'll stay though.


05 Aug 2017 12:27:41
Not for me im afraid. Iniesta was a hell of a player but i think his shelf life is nearing an end.


05 Aug 2017 12:35:02
IB, past it?

You must be joking me. When has Iniesta have relied on any kind of physical attribute?

I swear people just assume a player is finished once they are into their late 20's or 30's. This is part of the reason our club wins nothing. We keep signing teenagers and early 20's players, then sell them in their mid 20's to replace them with more youngsters!

Look at the Chelsea team that won the league last season. The youngest player in their first team was Hazard at 25 years old and they had players like Terry, Fabregas and Willian on the bench. Experience wins titles. The last time we won a trophy we had Maxi, Bellamy, Kuyt, Carragher and Gerrard in their 30's. Now, we have Milner and the team bottles it in every major final and all the games we are expected to win.

We should be looking at proven winners. If we had the chance tomorrow to sign Timo Werner or Diego Costa, our club would go for Werner because he has more potential and then sell him when he gets to his prime, before repeating the same process and continuing to win nothing. All about sell on value. If we took Costa I'd probably fire us to silverware. Sure he'd be sold at a loss after about 3 years but what is the point of competing if you don't want to win anything?

Iniesta is 33, not 40. He would be perfect for us. We have a great team but are just lacking that little bit of winning mentality. That experience to just get over the line. If you doubt that, re watch the two finals we lost under Klopp and take a look at last seasons league table at Christmas. We bottle it because we call anyone with experience past it! Sorry for the rant, but I am really passionate about the mental side of the game and it's importance.


05 Aug 2017 12:36:28
He's too old now mate, he can probably play a couple more years but not at the level we would want, at Liverpool he would be replacing a first team player and be expected to play and influence each game, if he stays at Barcelona he will have a bit part role that would suit him and his aging legs.


05 Aug 2017 12:44:55
Iniesta is past it and wouldn't be able to adjust to the physical nature of the premier league, same as Rakitic, their legs are completely gone and given the way Klopp likes his teams to play, they don't fit in, since they rarely do any tackling or pressing. We are far from a great team, great teams win leagues and trophies, not finish trophyless and in fourth place.


05 Aug 2017 13:09:07
Iniesta rarely tackles or presses? Okay now I know you have probably never watched him to at least paid attention to him, Frankly.

Mikey, why would he have to play every game for us? We have Grujic, Ejaria, Woodburn and more who would all be able to cover. Be that rotating from game to game, or just coming on as a sub at the hour mark.

I've been shocked on here in the past, but this has blown me away. I cannot believe people would reject Iniesta because he is 33. Last time we even got close to the title we had 34 year old Gerrard in midfield, and 34 year old Toure at centre back. Never underestimate the influence an experienced/ composed head can have. When everyone else panics and then you see your experienced players just playing as though nothing is wrong, it rubs off on the younger players. It is great to sign the best young talents but next season we are likely to have Milner out of the starting XI, Lucas sold, and our only other veteran is Klavan who is 4th choice centre back at best. Our older players (Milner, Klavan, Mignolet and Lallana) all lack composure and leadership qualities. We are fortunate Henderson has a head beyond his years, but we will struggle if his heel injury reoccurs.

Fair enough though lads. I put it out there as a suggestion and everyone is entitled to an opinion. Personally I'd drive to Spain to pick up Iniesta though.


05 Aug 2017 13:11:09
To prove I'm not always against you MK, Gary Mac is a perfect example of what I think you're trying to say. Experienced player came in, helped nurture some players and played a vital part in our treble season.

Experience is vital on the pitch.


05 Aug 2017 14:10:46
Exactly what I am getting at smplfc. By the way, I don't think you're deliberately against me buddy. Site would be boring if everyone agreed!


05 Aug 2017 14:43:14
You're talking from a purely footballing perspective, MKS. However, in this day and age of modern football, I'm dead sure team management considers a player's resale value before making a purchase. From that perspective alone, I'd say it's a no go because FSG has shown a track history of going for younger players that would be sold for a profit. We can argue about Iniesta's multitude or lack of skills from morning to night, and get no consensus. But the guys who sign the checks are frankly looking at it differently, and more concerned about the residual value of the player at the end of the contract.


05 Aug 2017 15:00:42
Unfortunately Ra, you a probably correct.


05 Aug 2017 18:26:45
Who will take the free kicks in the absence of Phil? Lol w couldn't even take corners properly! From the goal against Arsenal on the opening day to the one on the final day. Coutinho is much more than just a playmaker! Those who see a bright future after his departure would learn the hard way!
If there is a player similar to Coutinho, Barcelona wouldn't spend £100 mill in him! Only David Silva and Iniesta come alongside him!


05 Aug 2017 22:01:20
I think Iniesta has one of those footballing brains like the evergreen Italian Pirlo. sometimes you don't need to do all the running if you have a brain quicker than any oppositions legs. I think Inesta could give us a good few years (It will never happen though)


05 Aug 2017 11:06:56
Hi Ed002

Coutinho has not traveled as apparantly he has a back injury. Is there any more to it than that, or is his injury genuine?

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{Ed002's Note - I have yet to feel Pipco's back this morning in order to establish if it is a true injury or not I am afraid.}

05 Aug 2017 11:45:08
JEYSUS! is that actually a serious question, like GENUINELY SERIOUS question? How does it even make it on here? Does it still qualify as 'banter'?


05 Aug 2017 12:08:33
Is this a genuine serious response Suku? Talk about an overreaction. Would hate to leave the toilet seat up in your bathroom. Sheesh!


05 Aug 2017 12:14:29
Yes its banter SUKU. Go and have a beer or 2 pal, try and something to your posts instead of mocking people!


05 Aug 2017 12:19:40
Suku brown nosing a bit I think just because the ed gave a funny reply, I think it was an okay question to ask maybe could of been worded better hence the funny reply but that's a bit ott suku lad.


{Ed025's Note - get a life mate..

05 Aug 2017 12:37:45
Whole things a smokescreen, "hurt his back" is code for "he's not coming back"


05 Aug 2017 12:36:26
ed025 now now buddy everyone else poked fun at his reply, not sure why I'm the only one told to get a life aha, but yeah I'll work on it.


{Ed025's Note - we all need a scapegoat CMK...and it was your turn mate..

05 Aug 2017 12:53:16
Eh eh eh eh! calm down calm down.


05 Aug 2017 12:36:26
ed025 now now buddy everyone else poked fun at his reply, not sure why I'm the only one told to get a life aha, but yeah I'll work on it.


{Ed025's Note - we all need a scapegoat CMK...its your turn today mate..

05 Aug 2017 11:12:43
Looking forword to the game in the Aviva. Hope you all enjoy it. Is there many travelling from England?

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{Ed025's Note - loads from norway barry..

05 Aug 2017 11:23:29
*SIGH*.


05 Aug 2017 11:33:56
Can I ask where is everyone meeting before the game for a quick pint please Ed?


{Ed025's Note - yes barry...although i will not be attending mate..

05 Aug 2017 11:48:14
Darn Ed the missus was hoping to see you.


{Ed025's Note - im afraid there is not enough of me to go around barry, though my dietician may disagree mate..

05 Aug 2017 11:52:12
Worldwide appeal Ed025.

Comes with success.


{Ed025's Note - good answer agger..

05 Aug 2017 12:00:18
Ed02 will be drinking somewhere in north wales with the rest of the taffies I mean toffies.


{Ed002's Note - I don't recall having ever gone to North Wales.}

05 Aug 2017 12:17:06
Ok Boyho.


05 Aug 2017 16:07:56
loads of blue noses in n wales dirty beggars.


05 Aug 2017 11:09:15
Would say I'm shocked to see the negativity on here regarding coutinho.
Yes he is a great player, but he is not the be all and end all of our team. Personally not fussed either way if he leaves or stays.
We still going to play every game either way so that's it.
If he goes we have plenty of options in the team already.
Personally I'd use it as a chance to play firmino in his natural position and play a fluid 4 3 3.
Back 4 of who ever we end up with, then there is an abundance of choice for the 2 deeper midfielders who would add extra defence and then break forward, with firmino just in front behind Salah, mane and a striker.
We could go all out and buy the best striker we could an use sturridge as sub.
We have plenty of midfield cover as it is.

Just my personal opinion, I'd rather have a TEAM of good players playing fluid football for a TEAM they want to play for than team set up around one great player who wants out. For me as soon as he asked his friends to sound out another team that should be the time to start looking for a replacement. It's not as if it's been a secret he wants his move. No offense to him, it's Barcelona.

Sorry for long post, we have a really good team and with or without coutinho we should expect to challenge for the tops spots and do well in all cups.
Hopefully if he is sold Liverpool don't mess up getting a replacement, I'd hope for all out on a top striker.
Just my 2 pence worth.

Not long now, what ever happens sit back and enjoy the football, it's going to be a good season of football to watch for most of the top half of the league, hoping Everton can pull there new signings together for a couple of really good derby matches. Us winning of course but would love to see some really hard fought wins

Lifelongred.

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05 Aug 2017 11:20:50
If we have such a good team, how come we conceded so many goals, didn't actually compete for the league and won nothing last season?


05 Aug 2017 11:33:03
Never said we have the best team, we have a weak defence which coutinho plays little to no part of. Our biggest threat in my opinion is mane who was injured for the back end of last season.
With the money from selling coutinho we could and should buy a commanding cb and a reliable striker. This would make us a better team than as It stands now with coutinho in it.
Just because we need to improve doesn't mean we haven't got a great team.
Stop sulking and realise we play in one of the richest leagues in football which means there are now at least 8 teams which are good enough to fight for 4 places.


05 Aug 2017 11:43:58
Franklynegative should be your name mate! Gets me down reading what you have to say.


{Ed025's Note - im sitting here with a can of petrol and a lighter welsh..

05 Aug 2017 11:47:59
Frankly, are you even an LFC supporter cos all you see is doom and gloom?


05 Aug 2017 11:56:45
Leave him alone, he is just being Frank! Ba Dum tsss.


05 Aug 2017 12:16:53
Frankly is a little more negative than some people on here but is quite entitled to his or her opinion. One or two of you on here need to wipe your noses after you message the eds it's quite embarrassing really.


{Ed025's Note - the guy would put years on us so is fair game..get a room..

05 Aug 2017 12:41:21
Frankly we were challenging for the title we injury issues with Coutinho, Henderson, Mane, Sturridge etc. and Chelsea went on a hell of a run.


05 Aug 2017 13:06:08
Lifelong red, your words were that we have a 'really good team', which couldn't be further away from the truth. We're a mediocre team, we have an imbalanced and a largely mediocre squad with a few very good players and Coutinho being the closest we have to a world class player. Giving our recruitment team any large amount of money is like giving a donkey a five pound note. Damned if they know how they got it and damned if they know what to actually do with it. I don't see that there is anything to be positive about going into the new season, I'm simply being realistic in my assessment of how things are. Given our previous form on spending and the fact that we are completely inept at bringing in top players (which there is significant evidence to support, Dani Alves, Costa, Willian, Keita and VVD all being perfect examples of our incompetence), if the club went and spent every penny from the sale of Coutinho it would only be overspent on mediocre players like Lanzini, Oxlade and Gibson. Players who simply aren't good enough at the top level, nor able to compete at the highest level, which is how things have happened repeatedly over the years, remind me, did we use the money from Torres/ Suarez/ Stirlling well? No. We wasted it each time and subsequently we had a season of failure. So form is not on our side on this.


05 Aug 2017 16:28:41
Wow frankly that is possibly the most unsupported post I've ever read.
Mediocre?
Did we not finish above arsenal and man u? For the back end of the season from Xmas on nearly play without key players?
I'm not blind and am realistic about our team, we do have a really good team which is why we need to be challenging for all honours, yes we need to strengthen in places, saying we have a great team doesn't mean we need no new players. Any supporter know we need a commanding cb.
Yes LFC have made a mess of 2 of this year's transfers, yes something needs to be done for our transfer business in the future. I didn't once say we didn't.
We have strengthened our defence and bought another pacey forward.
I don't believe coutinho is our most important player, I would be more concerned if we sold mane. Selling coutinho and buying a leader of a cb and a more reliable striker would make us a much stronger team.
This still doesn't stop us from having a great team.


05 Aug 2017 11:06:56
Hi Ed002

Coutinho has not traveled as apparantly he has a back injury. Is there any more to it than that, or is his injury genuine?

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05 Aug 2017 11:13:54
Lol.
Coutinho hasn't travelled because he is in Barcelona having a medical (that is where his back strain came from) . It is absolutely nothing to do with him not being risked for the final preseason game and potentially making his back strain worse so he misses the start of the season.


05 Aug 2017 11:22:33
He's not going to be a Liverpool player much longer.


05 Aug 2017 11:06:42
Kostas Manolas was scouted for most of last season and they were largely impressed.
I know he has apparent disciplinary issue's but surely he would be a better buy than hanging on for VvD.
They obviously don't want to sell to us so why not go and buy some one who looks better on paper and would be considerably cheaper.

vrcomp
Y. N. W. A.

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05 Aug 2017 11:11:07
Bloody southerners.


05 Aug 2017 11:15:59
Would VVD going on strike and refusing to play for his club be classed as a disciplinary issue? (all of which is our fault for our illegal and unprofessional behaviour)


{Ed025's Note - im not sure billy..

05 Aug 2017 11:22:52
I like the look of Manolas but I am not sure we would get him if we wait till the windows about to shut.
Regarding Coutinho, it would nice to hear the club come out and back the manager like RB has done and say he's going nowhere.
All this talk of how much he would cost gives the impression they are willing to sell.


05 Aug 2017 11:23:45
Manolas is a poor defender and is as bad as Sakho with his chippy attitude.


{Ed025's Note - your very victor meldrew mate...get a grip..

05 Aug 2017 11:29:32
Why not ed025, it's not exactly professional behaviour?


{Ed025's Note - they will not want to rock the boat any more than they have if they want to keep him billy..

05 Aug 2017 11:57:36
Miles better than VVD. Manolas would be a great signing.


05 Aug 2017 12:13:06
Manolas is a quality defender imo. He is everything Lovren would have been when he signed for us. Strong in the air, not afraid to engage in physical battles, decent passer of the ball. Only negative is his poor temperament which can cause disruption on the pitch but im sure that can be worked on by Klopp.


05 Aug 2017 13:39:27
Except one turns like a oil tanker while the other is one of the quickest CB's around but i get your point.


05 Aug 2017 11:02:21
The concern that I would have if Pipco leaves is that it could well unsettle Firmino.

What with Lucas having gone he might decide its time for a change.

The Latin influence at LFC is being reduced.

Having said all that I think Pipco will be staying this season and we will get VDV or another CB in through the door.

Also I think we are in with an outside chance. Of signing Mbappe.

Clearly there are other sides in with more of a chance but the combination of Klopp's personality and FSG willingness to back the deal could just mean that we pull off the impossible deal.

In short its crazy but it could just happen.

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05 Aug 2017 11:25:30
Crazy yes, happening no.
As for FSG's willingness to back the Manager:-
Solanke signed but going to tribunal due to an unwillingness to match Chelseas valuation.
Robertson signed due to not willing to fork out for preferred choice of Mendy.
Salah signed for more than they had hoped due to fear of being reported yet again for tapping up.
Will not take less than £30 million for Sakho. Will not take less than £16 million for Moreno.
With others sold so far, would that not virtually balance the books?
Just playing devils advocate. But remember, truth is stranger than fiction wooooooo.


{Ed002's Note - None of this has anything to do with the owners who do not make these decisions. These decisions are made by the football club.}

05 Aug 2017 11:31:41
Mbappe is off to Real Madrid. There's absolutely zero chance that you will ever see him in a Liverpool shirt.


05 Aug 2017 11:35:31
I agree ed but surely the owners are the ones who control the financials?
Anyway, I was just having a bit of fun with all those fans who look for things that aren't there.


05 Aug 2017 11:51:56
Billy, no they do not. There are people employed by the owners who handle finances so pls, stop with this theory that the owners decide or have a say on who signs and who sold and for how much. There are people like Michael Edwards, Mike Gordon and Mr Moore amongst others, who handle these issues. In fact if anyone is more involved, it is Klopp and his scouting team.


05 Aug 2017 15:27:03
While I get your point woluwe, my point is that if the owners don't dip their hands in their pockets then no one signs. Edwards, Gordon and Moore (who has nothing to do with transfers) don't use their own money. Besides the post was a tongue in cheek, but hey ho.


05 Aug 2017 18:32:17
As much as I like Coutinho, if he goes, he goes. He will be replaced by someone else. Its not the end of the world at all.


05 Aug 2017 21:42:17
Billy how dare you try have a bit of fun! Do you not know this site is about bitching and moaning? either mention VVD, Coutinho or he who shall not be named or get lost! :)


05 Aug 2017 10:58:54
VVD to sing withing the next week and another CM/ Creative player will be signed before the window closes. Potentially expect another player on top of this. Just what I've heard.

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{Ed025's Note - what song will it be ted?..

05 Aug 2017 11:07:26
haha well said.


05 Aug 2017 11:10:56
I've heard it's the Dutch national anthem when he plays in our orange kit ed ;)


{Ed025's Note - nice one ted..

05 Aug 2017 12:25:42
#Oh when the saints go marching in.


05 Aug 2017 18:40:45
I hope he signs for Chelsea real quick so we can all move on from this ridiculous saga.


05 Aug 2017 10:51:30
Quick note on that pic of vvd in a Liverpool shirt, not saying it was real, but doesn't he wear 'Virgil' on the back anyway?

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{Ed025's Note - your thinking of thunderbirds..

05 Aug 2017 10:54:50
The shirt says Van Dijk doesn't it?


{Ed002's Note - There was no van Dijk in Thunderbirds Ted. Alan Shepard, Virgil "Gus" Grissom, Gordon Cooper, John Glenn and Scott Carpenter gave their names to our heroes. If there were to more sons they would of course have been called Walley and Deke (after Wally Schirra and Deke Slayton).}

05 Aug 2017 11:32:44
FAB, Ed02.


05 Aug 2017 10:44:22
Morning chaps Eds. I think little Phil will be sold as sad as it is for me too say. A massive bid from Barcelona is coming of around £110 million we can't that turn that amount of money down that's amazing business. new players will come in as LFC will always find a gem or two in klopp I trust Keep up the great work Eds ynwa.

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05 Aug 2017 11:04:33
IMO, Klopp will be stupid to sell Couts as he is not only our most important player, Lallana is now injured hence, that should be the sign that he should not be sold. I'll believe it when I see it.


05 Aug 2017 10:38:59
if coutinho has his heart set on joining barcalona why keep a player who's mind is elsewhere, look at the VVD situation. take the money and go and get abamuanyge from dortmand let's face it is sturridge going to stay fit. play mane and slash wide abamuanyge up front and firminio behind just my opinion cheers eds keep up the good work.

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{Ed025's Note - that would work for me steve..

05 Aug 2017 10:49:01
Completely agree mate.


05 Aug 2017 10:53:23
Think Slash is touring with Guns and Roses but if he fancies the challenge then why not.


05 Aug 2017 11:02:56
Would Slash be allowed to take his Les Paul on the pitch with him?


{Ed025's Note - if there are no strings attached flash..

05 Aug 2017 11:08:51
Disagree, OP. Couts may want to leave and if he really did want to leave, why did he sign his extension then? he simply could have refused to sign it and that would have been a signal that he wanted out but he did not.

Also, Klopp has said he is not for sale and he/ we should do exactly what RBL did to us regarding NK. The CEO of RBL stuck to his guns and despite NK's reported pleas, he was not sold and I don't care what "his heart is set on". He should be convinced to stay this season just like we did with Suarez. We don't need the money so don't need to sell. We should not yield to Barca's pressure cos they aren't so great anymore even with MSN. Just my opinion.


05 Aug 2017 11:38:45
Forget Auba. If we sell Coutinho we have enough money for Lewandowski or Aguero 😂.


05 Aug 2017 11:52:36
110 million. Come on lads it's a no brainer.110 million buys a lot of average players ask Everton😁. Banter Ed25 just banter mate.


{Ed025's Note - and good banter at that..respect mate..

05 Aug 2017 10:37:35
All this discussion around Coutinho to Barcelona - here is my two pence worth.
He should only be sold if we can acquire a replacement who will have the same influence on games.
I can't think of anyone out there atm who fits the profile of world class creative midfielder. Lanzini has been mentioned but he isn't in the same league as our little magician.
If the club have any intention of competing for honours they cannot sell him simply because there is no replacement.

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05 Aug 2017 10:55:48
If we sold if get a winger and creative cm. Firmino can play 10 at times, and we need some pace out wide if mane or Salah need resting. I think we would also need to replace his creativity, as yes we have other players, but none with the spark Phil has!


05 Aug 2017 11:03:54
Superman, As much as I like Coutinho, he is not world class. For starters he is not consistent enough. Please bear in mind that we had never heard of Coutinho, or what sort of impact he would have until he was signed from Inter.
All these fans wanting big money transfers doesn't guarantee they will be a success for our club. I would prefer someone who fits into the team ethic rather than a so called superstar individual. Remember, football is called a TEAM game.


05 Aug 2017 11:13:22
Spot on, Supermane. There is no one I have seen that can come in and have the same influence that Couts currently has with us. It took 4 years of his development to get here and you can't get that from a newcomer regardless of his talent immediately. We will be massively weakened and we cannot afford to do that esp. not this season. People get carried away with the fee and money signs and "who we can get". I would ask them to wake up from fantasy island as what I have posted above, is the reality. He must be convinced to stay, pure and simple.


05 Aug 2017 10:31:53
Ed001.

If you're about mate.

Do you not think it's poor management from the owners if they decide to sell Couts this late in the transfer window?

Whilst I agree and accept that he will get his move to Barcelona at some point but surely we have to have a plan in place to replace him? Next summer wound be much more a viable option surely.

Cheers.

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{Ed001's Note - if he goes it is because he wants to.}

05 Aug 2017 11:15:19
Couts wants to go to Barcelona but it should be only on Klopp's terms except of course, he asks to leave officially and even then, we can still make him stay like we did Suarez. Also, with Lallana injured and no player out there who can do the many things he can do in the team right now, it would be foolish to let him go.


05 Aug 2017 10:18:05
Any information regarding Benjamin André that were reportedly interested in? I've never heard of him.
On another note I'm bothered with the injuries and we've not even started the season yet, doesn't bode well.

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{Ed025's Note - nothing on him as yet steve..

05 Aug 2017 10:11:36
Would it be an idea to buy Wesley Hoedt, instead of VVD, and save ourselves about 50 million! We will probably be in for him next year for about 70 million!

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05 Aug 2017 10:38:56
I weirdly included him in an article I did last month on potential VVD alternatives.

He is a very good player.


05 Aug 2017 09:56:04
Anyone as concerned as me with champions league games coming up and the first league game next week, that we are still short of first team players
Can still not signed contract
Coutinho under offer
Now Lallana injured
Henderson and Danny injury prone
Leaves us short and before I get pelters saying the transfer market still open we know how useless we are getting deals done.

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05 Aug 2017 10:16:58
I am as concerned as you Clee for all the reasons youve listed mate.


05 Aug 2017 10:36:54
OP, calm down, mate. The injuries may be a concern but at present if Couts is still here (which he will be cos with Lallana injured, Couts is definitely not leaving), he will prolly play in CM with Can/ Hendo or Wiji/ Hendo depending on the game so not sure Lallana would get regular starts so not sure what the fuss is about. Also, we have options in CM like Woodburn, Grujic along with Wij and Hendo and Can so we are fine there. If Can does not want to sign a new deal then fine. He stays here and leaves for free next season which gives us time to get a suitable replacement. No need to overreact, my friend. All will be fine.


05 Aug 2017 11:04:16
Lallana injury mate has nothing to do with Coutinho leaving or not leaving.


05 Aug 2017 09:50:11
Does anyone think IF Couts is sold that Klopp could walk?

He's been consistently saying that Couts is not for sale, obviously wants to keep him, and that no one will leave that he wants to keep.

If a sale went through against his wishes, where does that leave him in terms of his influence as manager?

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{Ed025's Note - thats a very good point mate..

05 Aug 2017 10:06:45
That's all hypothetical at the moment though pal.


05 Aug 2017 10:17:47
There are three scenarios:
1. Couts stays - nothing else to say.
2. Couts goes with Klopp blessing - Klopp's been playing the game and has lied to the press.
3. Couts goes without Klopp's blessing - Either FSG have lied to Klopp or Klopp has been playing silly buggers trying to use the press to force FSG to do what he wants. Either seems unlikely.

I think scenario 1 or 2 is most likely.


05 Aug 2017 10:28:34
Been thinking the same thing KBL.


05 Aug 2017 10:39:42
Option 1, hands down. Why? Simple. Lallana is now injured and we will not sell Couts now. Even if Lallana was fit, would he get to start games with Couts dropping into CM along with Wiji, Can and Hendo? Not sure.


05 Aug 2017 18:30:05
KPL, TBH, I couldn't really care less if Klopp were to go or not. TBH, I'm surprised he still has his job considering his well known liking for illegally approaching other clubs players. I'm sure its probably wearing thin with the owners. Furthermore, I have never really understood the love for him. ITs been a long time since he has won anything.


05 Aug 2017 08:57:42
I see there is hysteria when it comes to the Lallana injury.

Henderson will start as long as he is fit. Coutinho will move into midfield and then we still have Can, Grujic and Wijnaldum. Milner may not be everyone's cup of tea in midfield but there we have another option.

There is no point in adding anymore to our midfield unless Klopp manages to sign his no 1 target otherwise we are just adding more midfielders for the sake of stockpiling the squad.

Why is there so much panic?

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05 Aug 2017 09:24:19
Because my plumbers been done for tapping up.


YNWA.


05 Aug 2017 10:29:36
I love the different opinions on here.
We are told by some that our midfield is strong enough to deal with champions league and a premiership season.
We struggled last season with a 2 game a week January, we have lost Lucas Stewart. who have not been replaced. Henderson is always going to be a? Lalana, Can and grujic have been in and out with injuries through the last 2 season.
If Coutinho leaves we need to spend the money on bringing in quality in the middle . Klopp has looked at Bringing in Dahood and he who must not be named, so our manager knows we are lacking in that department. I agree about stock piling but there's a need for better quality, or more reliable, consistent players in that area, especially if you want to compete.
We just held on to 4th without European Comp last season, imo we will need to bring in stronger, better class midfielders to cope with the stress of more games.
Hey it's an opinion but I don't think we get 4th with the squad as it currently stands.3 to 4 top 1st team players needed 2 compete for title. The business other teams have made doesn't make 4th place finish easier.
Good luck, but i am a realist.
We can dream. YNWA.


05 Aug 2017 10:44:13
Max, panic is what many of our fans do cos for some reason, we simply can't be clear-eyed in our evaluation of thing LFC-related. You don't
sign players to cover an injury for 2/ 3 months? That is why you have a squad. Another thing. Now that Lallana is injured, Couts is definitely not leaving now as that would be stupid.


05 Aug 2017 17:53:37
Max, Coutinho won't be moving into our midfield, he's going to Barca.


05 Aug 2017 08:46:32
Graham Kelly (daily express ) says vvd will definitely be done to liverpool howith reliable is he any thoughts eds?

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{Ed002's Note - I have no idea how "reliable" he is.}

05 Aug 2017 09:23:36
Graham Kelly seems to have a decent reputation.


{Ed025's Note - hit and miss for me mate..

05 Aug 2017 09:20:34
Thanks for the quick response ed002.


{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}

05 Aug 2017 09:21:28
just read that myself and he says we had "We had permission to speak to Van Dijk in Blackpool. There were things we didn't have permission for and that's why we made the apology.
"Chelsea met him, City met him, he is actively for sale. That wasn't the issue beforehand.
"The issue was that something happened in the press that took a bit of Southampton's power away.
if so are they trying to make them self's look better to there fans.


{Ed002's Note - The Manchester City and Chelsea permission was related to meetings held in January where Southampton, the player and one of the Jansons from Wasserman Nederlands were present. The Jansons had ousted Henk-Maarten Chin and were pushing to have the player step up and move on. They also approached Everton at the same time but I am not aware of any meetings. By March Arsenal (who had made a subsequent enquiry) and Chelsea were told by Southampton that he would not be sold and they stepped back. What happened after that has been mentioned here once or twice already. Liverpool did not have permission to fly the player to Blackpool and meet with the player.}

05 Aug 2017 07:31:46
There seems to be a lot of hysteria regarding Coutinho potentially being sold, don't get me wrong I don't want him to go but as brilliant as he can be he is still massively inconsistent and can vanish for weeks at a time. If he were to go it would be for a ridiculous price and as long as that money was reinvested into the squad I wouldn't have a problem with it. Ultimately I don't think Coutinho would be sold without Klopp's consent, we have a world class manager it's about time we started trusting his judgement.

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05 Aug 2017 07:56:16
I think if we want to challenge for the title this season we have to keep Coutinho.

If we are happy with top 4 then sell him, buy Meyer and then maybe we can challenge in the 18/ 19 season once we have gone through the transition period; again.

You are right though. The hysteria is excessive. Coutinho is critical to our immediate aspirations, but we lost Suarez who was 3 times the player, and yet here we are just 3 seasons on talking about a title challenge.


05 Aug 2017 08:28:47
Mate Coutinho was one of our top performers last season, scored the most goals and had the most assists, how is that inconsistent? The lad has improved year on year and is now coming into his prime - selling him is a terrible idea and the logic of 'well he can be replaced' is insane - who could we buy that would be an adequate replacement? Name players because I'd be interested to know who can fill that void.


05 Aug 2017 08:45:44
Seano - Coutinho is key obviously, and probably more to his sympathizers point, he is so key that when he is off invariably the team is off. So I can appreciate the feeling that if he goes then so doers all hope! But he is a step or two away from being the truly world class star some are already announcing him as. Th inconsistency is about how he disappears throughout the season and in some games. Ya rarely got that feeling with Suarez who, if Coutinho leaves now, was twice / thrice the player.


05 Aug 2017 09:06:17
Strengthening the defence is more of a concern.


05 Aug 2017 08:49:39
I think Coutinho was fantastic at times last season and believe the period he wasn't at his best you can excuse, as he was coming back from a lay off and not fully fit.
Any club would be weakened by the sale of such a talent but I am one who believes that you should always move on a player who's head as been turned by a offer from a club he wishes to play for.
The sum we should expect to recieve will be imo more than he's worth. I just hope we strengthen the first team.
I remember selling Rush and using the money to buy Barnes, Beardsley and Houghton. 3 players who went straight into the first team and made us one of the most exciting teams i have witnessed.
Ed02 has called this possible move for a while so I am not at all shocked by the situation.
Good luck to him wherever he plays next season, especially if he stays. let's get together and support the team YNWA.


05 Aug 2017 08:50:25
Just because the Spanish media are making noises does not mean Barcelona will sign Coutinho.

We have to keep our best players in order to progress. Coutinho is one of those players and it has been made perfectly clear that he ain't for sale.

Barca have the task now to replace Neymar and cannot see Coutinho being that player anyway.

Coutinho signed a new long term contract last season and he ain't pushing for a move at this point so we hold all the cards. People need to calm down.


05 Aug 2017 09:14:04
I understand what you are saying Faith but I respectfully disagree. Suarez was an inconsistent performer when he first joined us - hard working no doubt - but inconsistent, certainly in terms of his scoring rate. But he improved year on year (like Coutinho) and was already a few years older and wiser when joining us.

I know that, ultimately, Coutinho will leave for Spain but I hope he sticks around for another couple of years at least - he is a unique player who is arguably world class and a player I feel we would really struggle to replace. I don't even think the money is relevent in this situation - no matter what Barcelona would be prepared to pay it wouldn't help us find a player as good as Coutinho - if we have serious title aspirations then we cannot lose our best players.


05 Aug 2017 09:08:04
IF coutinho goes which I hope he doesn't what if we replace him with a world class striker who gets 30+ goals a season and drop bobby back into the number 10 role? I personally think that's his best position?


{Ed025's Note - i might have mentioned that before mate..

05 Aug 2017 09:24:47
I definitely don't disagree Seano, and actually is something I've been saying for a long time. Many fans are praising Coutinho as if he is currently the version I'd expect of him in 2019. But he is not. in the inevitability that he is going, this year or the next, we shouldn't let ourselves be hamstrung by the sale of any player. Let alone a player who more than likely is going to leave us before he becomes the truly world class player we think he is.


{Ed025's Note - hes excellent but your right..no one player is bigger than the club..

05 Aug 2017 09:46:22
I think the problem we have if coutinho goes is the same problem Barcelona are going to have purchasing him from us, everyone knows you have money so the ridiculous fees that are around this window will go up again knowing you've just made £120 million say from coutinho, I like coutinho and thinks he's special on his day but he isn't world class yet and he's not £120 million but because we know they have neymar money the price goes up, I just don't see a replacement and a reasonable price who will come in and do it and plus they'll have a massive fee over their heads that can break players.


05 Aug 2017 10:53:50
Seano is spot on. Couts is our most important and influential player, end of. No replacement in the short term will be able to do the things or have the creative influence he has on our team that has been built over the time he's been here. Not Siguurdsson, Meyer, Rafinha or whoever will do that for us. Let us stop deluding ourselves with this "he is not world class or that he is not consistent" or with whatever fee we will get for him. He had the most goals and assists for us last season. He played ill vs Stoke and pulled us out of a sticky spot along with Firmino. He bossed games vs Arsenal, WH, Watford and was critical for us in the run-in in many other games. That is consistent enough for me and in no way should he be sold or we will regret, Big Time.


05 Aug 2017 12:45:19
And in other games he was not. No one is arguing that he isn't important for us. But if ya haven't read the tea leaves or listened to tthe eds, he wants to go. He is too nice to do a VVD or sterling on us. we all want him to stay. For me I want him to stay so he can become the truly world class star before he leaves. More than he is today. Maybe if he stays this season, then we'll see one season of it!


05 Aug 2017 04:14:51
Eds, if Coutinho is named in our Champs League qualifier squad, does that mean he can't play for Barcelona until after the group stages, if at all, should he sign for them?

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{Ed001's Note - no.}

05 Aug 2017 02:04:50
Season starts next week. can't wait. seems I'm in the minority tho as apparently I've read our seasons over. Wish I had the insider info cos I've just stuck us on my accumulator. What a waste of a pound. I'm going to write to klopp and demand my pound back. ah well. there's always 2018/ 2019. Can't wait till then.

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05 Aug 2017 01:44:17
I wonder if people are as hysterical in real life as they are on this site. The eds need medals!

I love Klopp, but he and the club effed up with VVD. Fact. We apologised, Saints accepted. Resolved (to an extent) . If we go back for him, we do, and hopefully there's no further foul play and it may even go some way to building bridges again. Hope the possibilty of action being taken against has stopped our nonsense, because we've been doing it for too long.
But, again, everyone banging on about the issue isn't going to help. or make the club sign him!

The K word has long gone, time everyone moved on.

We've made some pretty decent signings so far, plenty of time for more. Panicking won't speed up the process.

We might lose important players and injuries happen. They're individuals, not the team, and I'm sure the club have thought about every eventuality. Though, maybe they're as dim and useless as some fans think they are and we'll buy Luke Chadwick for £40 million on deadline day, as there's no possible way we can live without Lallana for a couple of months.

Fans perhaps should get off the backs of the club and the squad (that happens throughout the whole season) . There's a clue in the word 'supporters' as to what we should all be doing more often!

Chill out, people. Things aren't as bad as many on this site will have you believe :)

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05 Aug 2017 06:51:20
Llalana being out for a couple of months is only a problem if Coutinho leaves and someone else gets injured.

Even with both gone we can still have a starting lineup with Sturridge upfront, Mane/ Firmino/ Salah behind and Hendo/ Can deep and. and still have Gini, Grujic, Origi and Solanke on the bench. Easily something we can cope with for a couple of months.

I really don't want Coutinho to leave as I want Liverpool to be the best it can be, but not sure why everyone is saying the season is over?


05 Aug 2017 08:39:25
Zimbo. No!
Lallana
Lallana
Lallana
He's English. Not welsh. .


05 Aug 2017 10:56:57
Spot on, OP. The hysteria is just typical of many LFC fans cos for some, it's the only way to go. Also, with Lallana injured, I suspect that Couts leaving is now dead in the water (not that it was on, IMO) so that is the only thing that came out of the injury news.


05 Aug 2017 14:06:42
Haha stonage

Lallana, Lallana, Lallana

Damn autocorrect.


 
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