Liverpool Banter Archive January 05 2016

 

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05 Jan 2016 23:42:15
Hi eds,

What is the situation with axel witzel? Think he would make a great signing. We need a world class centre mid and I think he would slot in well with origi an benteke and would be great for this rotation system Klopp plays. Every player on that pitch looked tierd tonight.

Cheers

Josh.

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06 Jan 2016 10:37:04
Exactly Ed002!

We couldn't afford or attract him at the moment.


05 Jan 2016 23:36:50
What's your thoughts on current injuries? I know Klopp likes his players super fit, but coming in 11 games into the season and making changes is not ideal. Add onto that the number of games played lately and it's easy to see how these things can happen. Klopp is used to a winter break also, so maybe more tinkering of the fitness regime is needed in the pl?
I noticed that both hamstring injuries today came from unusual actions: Coutinho stabbed a ball around the corner so to speak, and Lovren opted to twist his leg to keep the ball in rather than putting it out for a corner.
Shame, Lovren has been our best defender lately.

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06 Jan 2016 00:15:50
It's not good in this moment how many injurys we have, but with the amount of games we are playing with roughly the same 11 starting our players will be not just tired but lacking the ability for the muscles to repair themselves and body's to refresh themselves. Players will have, might b the wrong term, lactic acid build up in their muscles which reduces the muscles ability to rejuvenate between periods of stress and they more they get used the worse the condition becomes.

Yes we are working harder, yes we are training harder but our pre season is where we have been let down, a years fitness and muscle health is conditioned in the pre season. So we have had a pre season of training for playing a particular way but even then it wasn't enough, as our players have looked tired from day one. All we can do now is hope that the injurys we suffer are soft tissue injurys around the surface of the muscles as opposed to deep tissue, tears, or injurys where muscles connect with tendons etc as we are going to continue to suffer from them for the remainder of the season. 1 positive to take from it is that for the players that remain with us in the future they will be gaining some of the fitness required but just as or more importantly the knowledge and mental attitude of what is required and what it's going to take to play under Klopp and be successful.

It hurts now, no doubt, and it's leaving our squad shattered, but in 12 months time we will have the fittest and strongest team n the prem. Surely with this in mind we can move forward with positivity knowing this won't last and we will benefit greatly from it.

In this moment, I Believe.


06 Jan 2016 00:29:24
I think the lovern 1 happened before that tackle when he slide in and knocked it out for a throw in. Played on to see if he could it off.


06 Jan 2016 00:33:39
Our preseason was wasted on overseas trips instead of working on our fitness. Now we are paying the price.


05 Jan 2016 23:00:25
Eds,
Seeing Klopp's glowing appraisal of Arnautovic pre-game, I was wondering if there is any interest in him and if we hold any.
Certainly looks a player with the ability to be very, very good, just needs to find more consistency.

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{Ed002's Note - Let's assume not.}

06 Jan 2016 00:34:40
PSG are interested as a replacement for Lavezzi, based on French media.


06 Jan 2016 07:11:13
Not sure what my post said that managed 3 disagrees? Maybe it was my last comment about Lovren's form lately?


05 Jan 2016 23:01:27
Papers will go mental tomorrow. Klopp just said that he will definitely have to look at transfer market lol. Be linked to every player in Germany tomorrow!

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05 Jan 2016 23:23:59
"Something we could look at", I believe. Not definitely will.


06 Jan 2016 00:35:33
He's always kept his options open so don't know where the news flash is, really.


05 Jan 2016 22:51:33
Well, as a near 60 year old life-long Liverpool fan I am astonished to find myself saying our best two players tonight were Toure and Allen.

Who the hell will we put in central defence to face Arsenal?

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05 Jan 2016 22:56:25
I thought Firmino had a good game to. Toure and Llori lol.


05 Jan 2016 23:04:32
Arsenal is over a week away. Who knows, maybe Lovren will be fine by then, Toure apparently was just a cramp, and Sakho I don't think was anything long term either. Exeter is a different story though, that one should be interesting.


05 Jan 2016 23:06:07
Can for me RED. i thought he was excellent this evening. I agree the others did have good games though!


05 Jan 2016 23:27:55
Toure had a top game alright.

Allen drifted out of the match after Lucas was moved out of midfield. He meant that assist for Ibe (air shot my ass), but over the whole 90 minutes he wasn't great.


06 Jan 2016 00:22:57
Red Lenin - I agree with you about Allen and Toure. I think Allen offers more in a CM role than Milner. (I know I'll be crucified on here for saying that) . He wasn't scared to pass the ball forward and made runs to support the attack at every opportunity.

As for Toure - over 10-15 yards he's as fast as anyone else on the field. He reads the game well and gets into good positions where he doesn't have to cover more than 15 yards - well, not too often anyways.

A few people have also commented that Firmino had a good game tonight. I disagree! While he might have improved on his last three performances, he still has a lot to work on. His decision making as to when to shoot or not is one. Another is that he doesn't like to receive the ball with his back to goal. He opts to pass it back rather than turn with it - probably a lack of confidence more than a lack of ability.


06 Jan 2016 00:39:28
Altogether, our boys didn't need to break a sweat tonight, I feel. Yes, we fought hard, stayed together and played some lovely stuff vs a team that has been slapping teams around on their home patch but I felt the boys never panicked and just did the job. They were ready for the fight and took it to them. Chuffed to bits for the win. Great response from them and Klopp must be pleased.


06 Jan 2016 09:06:05
Illori perhaps, recently returned from loan. I would imagine if he is injury free he might get a look in.


05 Jan 2016 22:50:55
Shawcross is a proper PL defender

Why has no club tried to sign him

Would you take him at lfc?

I'm not deluded this is for banter!

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06 Jan 2016 00:23:08
We were linked with him in the past, either during KK's time or early in BR's.

I think the main issue with him is that he is too one-dimensional. not got enough finesse in his game to attract in the top clubs. if he was in his early 20s you could say he has the potential to be polished, but at the grand old age of 28, if he's not setting the world on fire already, it is unlikely he ever will.

I think he's found his level at Stoke and seems to be a reliable servant for them for the past 8-9 years.


06 Jan 2016 00:40:46
That must be a joke, right dezy? The guy's aweful and Stoke is his level. There's a reason not a soul has gone in for him. He's aweful.


06 Jan 2016 01:54:46
He certainly is full of awe.


06 Jan 2016 10:38:30
Plus he's an ex-Manc.


05 Jan 2016 22:48:44
Question for the Eds. With Kolo are only fit center back where do we stand in terms of recalling Ilori from Aston Villa. Do you see this as an option?

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05 Jan 2016 22:58:18
Hes not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy.


05 Jan 2016 23:28:06
I thought we had recalled Illori?


05 Jan 2016 23:50:01
All I said it was good enough for Jojoba.


06 Jan 2016 00:23:30
From what I've read, I'm led to believe illori will be returning, not sure if it will work out. Lot of people have been wanting him to play for a while now, myself included, just concerned with the lack of game time he has had and the fact he hasn't even been around our squad a whole lot, but there's only one way to find out if he will make it and I'm looking forward to seeing what he has to offer. Not saying he will be brilliant but if he can give consistent, solid 6/ 10-7/ 10 performances for a month or 2 then that's going to take some pressure off and give us another option, let's just hope that's the way it goes.


06 Jan 2016 21:34:13
2 disagees for Ron's quote from Life of Brian?


05 Jan 2016 22:45:49
Good performance, good reaction after West Ham and very good result. I fully agree with the compliments here for Toure (my MOTM), Allen, Mings, Lucas. Also Can who really becomes a top midefeilder. One particular skill I like in him is when he presses he doesn't only harras players and hope for a mistake he does pickpocket them and ends up with the ball more often than not. Even Milner was decent today.

We are just so poor in front of goal, all of our players with no exception are really poor in front of goal. As if this whole goal scoring is just not their thing. Which is a shame because we get to the opposition box quite a lot. Firmino is the worst in that sense, easily the dissapointment of the season for me. Maybe we will be improved with Origi and Sturridge.

And the injuries. Is thiS a PL record for hamstring injuries in a game? in a week? in a season? They have to really check this out and do whatever required to avoid this next season. We have 11 injuries Watford has 1, Stoke 3.

But fair play to the team. I was really warried before the game about this one.

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05 Jan 2016 23:53:33
I agree Firmino's shooting has been poor, but how can he be the "disappointment of the season", when he's been our most effective and creative attacker probably over the last 3-4 games?

We had 15 shots today. Firmino took 7, and created 3 more.

10 of our 15 scoring opportunities resulted from Firmino.

His first EPL season. And he's everyone's greatest disappointment, fans bashing him left and right.

Coutinho is probably my disappointment of the season. Should be our best player every night, but has been incredibly inconsistent.

I think a big part of it, is Coutinho has absolutely no idea what to do with Benteke in front of him. Rather than passing into a static marked Benteke, he's been shooting (also badly) .

Coutinho's problems and most inconsistencies will clear up once we stop starting Benteke, and realize he was never a fit here, and he will never be a fit here, other than as an impact sub.


06 Jan 2016 00:29:40
I for one like what Firmino is doing so far, of course he can be better, and I'm sure he will be. Looks the type that will really come alive next season, needs time to adjust and learn. But his work rate, movement, and general quality I don't think can be questioned, no he hasn't won games on his own or stood out like a superstar but he is getting the job done and effectively. He will be a quality player for us in the future just needs time, look at his time in Germany and the games he has played for Brazil, you can see it there.


06 Jan 2016 02:34:09
Firmino's work rate and effort are ten-fold to that of benteke and results in less work the men behind him need to complete. I agree his touch is off at times and his shooting is woeful at the moment but all it takes is 1 or 2 and he could soon be a tidy player. Definitely need the movement up top, Ings can't come back soon enough.


05 Jan 2016 22:44:10
Good win tonight, the boys showed great determination and were all fully committed to the cause. Emre Can was immense once again. Been our best player since Klopp's arrival. He is fantastic talent and only 21. Joe Allen was excellent tonight. He showed that he can be a vital squad player for us. A really clever and tidy player. Lucas and Kolo were surprisingly a very good partnership. Mignolet looked assured and made a vital save from Glen Johnson in the 1st half. Unfortunately though these injuries are killing us. Hopefully we can either bring in Matip or Subotic now.

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06 Jan 2016 00:21:20
Allen just isn't vital unless vital in getting us some money and saving some wages. Sure enough he is a decent player and if we keep him fine. But we will no doubt accept the first decent offer that comes in.


06 Jan 2016 00:48:55
Lay off Allen, Beef. He had a solid game as the rest of the team. I'm not his biggest fan but I can admit when he plays well and he did well tonight. Toure, and Can were the picks of the lot. Notice when Lovren went off.

Klopp could have moved Can to CB but he didn't because he knew he's not a CB and lacks the know how to play there. He left him in midfield where he was dominant and that helped protect Toure and Lucas. Thank God, a manager who knows what he's doing. Chuffed for the win.


05 Jan 2016 22:34:51
A really positive performance today particularly with the loss of Lovren and Coutinho. Firmino was very bright and when he gets his shooting boots on he is going to be a real handful. The midfield looked balanced and it was good to see Milner back. Obviously a concern about centre back problem.
Sorry if this has been explained but I wasn't aware Sakho was injured as well.
If he is it that hamstring too and how long?
Going to be difficult few weeks but that was certainly a superb response. Well done guys.

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05 Jan 2016 22:27:15
Great performance all round tonight, out of the blocks quickly, attacking with intent and defending as a unit. Good to see, hope it continues for the next game.

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05 Jan 2016 21:54:42
Ed2 with sakho, lovren, skrtel and possibly toure injured would you expect subotic too come in asap now?

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{Ed002's Note - No. It really doesn't work like that.}

05 Jan 2016 22:45:26
Okie dokie.


05 Jan 2016 22:48:30
Has Ilori returned from his loan with Villa yet? If so looks like he'll start on Friday. If so would be the ideal game to come into and prove himself. Hopefully the other injuries won't be all too long term.


05 Jan 2016 23:34:08
Oh dear!


05 Jan 2016 17:49:15
Hi Ed2, have you already done the list of possible Liverpool targets in Jan and summer transfer windows.

Just wanted to be sure if I missed it or not. Thnx.

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{Ed002's Note - Yes but summer is way off. Read through the posts and you will pick it up my friend. When folks hit an equilibrium I will give an update.}

05 Jan 2016 22:46:41
Ha ha could be a long wait for that Ed!


{Ed002's Note - Once they settle after tonight's catastrophic loss I will be able to post sensibly again - until we near another game and the fans all act like they have been tasered again. Desmond Morris eat you heart out.}

05 Jan 2016 22:32:03
Well in Joe Allen brought some much needed energy to out midfield.

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05 Jan 2016 22:31:50
Carra get the boots back on!

We could do worse.

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05 Jan 2016 22:23:42
Good performance. Big improvement on last game. Allen was motm Imo, kolo excellent and lucas superb for the team. Firminho is just lacking in composure and confidence.
Please lord give texeria a chance on Friday.

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05 Jan 2016 22:30:45
Today is a rare day. I agree with you Big Al :)


05 Jan 2016 22:32:42
Are you Teixeira?


05 Jan 2016 22:29:40
Allen was good but he has always played well on occasion he just could replicate them regualrly enough.


05 Jan 2016 22:19:21
Kolo-10 man of the match
Pirlo Joe- Quality
Lucas-Superb

Was there a bad individual performance- NO

Injuries are a concern.

Time for the articulated lLori.

Very well done to all the lads.

Only half time, so fingers crossed for 2nd leg

YNWA.

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05 Jan 2016 22:31:09
Good man Mick, was waiting for the Ilori bomb to drop.


05 Jan 2016 22:31:12
Not sure articulated is the right word unless you mean he is very well spoken haha!


05 Jan 2016 22:16:35
Joe Allen and Kolo Toure, hats off to you fellas! Both had their best games in a red shirt tonight. Great timing as well. Ibe, Moreno, Lucas and Milner all had good games too. Clyne still needs to give us more going forward, Can and Lallana need to take less touches, and Firmino needs to improve his shooting. Shame about Coutinho and Lovren. They were playing well. Hats off to the team though. Would've been easy to take their foot off the gas after two injuries in the first half an hour but both subs were involved in the goal and what a job Lucas did in defence?! Also, fair play to Mingolet. Had safe hands tonight and actually came off his line a few times (although he didn't like Shaquiris whipped corners) . Anyone else find it funny that Glen Johnson was caught lazily strolling back from way out of position for our goal? Some things will never change ;)

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05 Jan 2016 22:13:05
Hi Ed, is there anybody in the youths reserves team (s) you think could potentially step up and fill in for the injuries in central defence - I don't have a great deal of knowledge of who we have and how their progressing.
i know if push comes to shove I know we can maybe buy some extra cover or patch people up, but it would be nice to promote from within or am I being a dreamer 😄.

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{Ed001's Note - we really lack central defensive options in the youth set up as well. Maybe we will have to find a way to recall Wisdom?}

05 Jan 2016 22:18:18
Isnt llori coming back to us? Surely he will have to come in and Can in defence.


05 Jan 2016 22:20:14
Lucas and Can are options there but recalling Ilori would be best. Toure and Sakho are surely the starting pair so we just need cover there.

Wisdom is getting games at Norwich in a good footballing side. Would seem a waste to recall him just to sit on out bench until Lovren or Skrtel return. Whereas Ilori may as well sit on our bench than Aston Villas.


{Ed001's Note - Ilori is injured isn't he? So no point recalling him.}

05 Jan 2016 22:23:15
Surely we've got to try and bring back wisdom and ilori. If not subotic on loan perhaps.


05 Jan 2016 22:26:27
Definitely try to get Wisdom back.


05 Jan 2016 22:32:21
He just said maybe we will look to bring in a defender, maybe that means wisdom, he can compete with Clyne too when players are back.


05 Jan 2016 22:28:28
Try and get Matip in now maybe won't be easy as ed has said.


05 Jan 2016 23:27:14
Ed001 according to pyscho room Ilori not in the injury list, any one confirm he is injured?


05 Jan 2016 22:29:51
I'm not sure Ed001. Been impossible to follow him because he's never in the squad. I am just wary of sacrificing what has turned out to be a good loan for Wisdom just incase Toure or Sakho get injured before Lovren or Skrtel are back. Especially when Lucas has stepped in there twice now and done well, plus Can is a last ditch option there. If Wisdom was coming back to play alongside Sakho with Toure benched, then it's perhaps a different story though.


{Ed001's Note - how has it been a good loan? I mean you called Norwich a good footballing side, when they aren't. It was a mistake, he is working with a young Allardyce.}

05 Jan 2016 22:00:43
Delighted to already see a few posts about Allen playing well. Everyone keeps saying to sell him, I say keep him. He's a model professional. Steps in when asked and can cover a few positions in midfield. If the plan of the club is to bring in youth he's the kind of player you want around to be a positive influence and keep them grounded.

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05 Jan 2016 22:13:16
I still think he is taking tbe place of one of the young guys. He is a decent and capable player but not good enough for where we need to be.


05 Jan 2016 22:32:49
He doesn't perform like this regualrly, he always has had good games.


05 Jan 2016 22:33:10
allen feels like a new signing and could force his way in the team. midfeild of can, lucas, allen works. henderson and allen are like for like with their runs and intricate passes. of course allen doesn't have the range henderson has. firmino dissapointed and how long does he get to keep his place?


05 Jan 2016 22:29:41
It's refreshing to see Allen getting praise. Normally he gets slated and i have been a critic in the past but as you point out, a model professional. He never bitches or moans and just gets on with it. I remember Lucas got so much beef when he joined and after about 2 seasons started playing well. Now i'm not tempted in the slightest to call to get rid of him but only if he keeps improving. Can we replace him with anyone better now Klopps in? That surely will be the deciding factor on whether or not he stays or goes.


05 Jan 2016 22:44:35
yeah it took lucas 2 years to learn how to adapt to the premier league. I think that's all players need is time. some take longer than others, but some are also incapable of changing.


06 Jan 2016 00:38:42
I'm on the fence about Allen. He has this habit, as Fencey says, of throwing in the odd good game, but not consistent enough to be a starter. That being the case, I do think he is blocking youth - why put someone on the bench who you know will be inconsistent rather than picking someone who has the potential to be world class?

Don't agree with comparing Allen and Lucas. Lucas came from another league whereas Allen has been playing in the premiership for 5 years, and in the championship before then.

Do still think he meant that pass today tho, and was a moment of brilliance!


06 Jan 2016 00:40:10
It's great that he had a good game, and he could really push on from here. But if we need to sell to buy or need room to bring youth through I think he is currently close to the top of the list of players to be sold (I know there's no such list).

I'm sure 90% of us want to keep Can, Hendo, Lucas for cm, so if we want to upgrade or even bring youth in some one has to make way and who does that leave Allen, Milner?, there's not a lot to be done. Don't think much will happen this window but unless he tears it up and outperforms Can and Hendo I can't see him staying.


05 Jan 2016 23:38:54
There are games when Allen has looked like a 30 million cm. Can he get to a consistent level is what we need to srr now. I really love the lad. I hope he doesn't get a little run now and then another bloody injury.


06 Jan 2016 02:40:08
It's his lack of consistency that let's him down. When he plays well he has memorable performances. Paulo like you said, a £30 mill player. Maybe Klopp could bring the best out of him. I think the entire team suffered from the past 18 months of BR. In no way am I trying to slag him off, just stating the obvious in how the team played with their heads down in that time. Tonight's performance is a result of Klopp, and Allen definitely benefited. I just hate the thought of buying all new players again, needing time for them to settle etc. would be delighted to see a player like himself finally step up and make it to th e next level.


{Ed001's Note - he has never and will never play like a £30m player. He had a decent game, but he was far from special last night. If it had been Henderson, for instance, we would have not even mentioned him, or maybe complained that he did not get forward enough or show enough energy. People are getting carried away simply because it is Allen.}

05 Jan 2016 21:58:00
well done lfc! Joe Allen take a bow. he really impressed me tonight.

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05 Jan 2016 21:55:47
Well done boys. You did it on a cold night in Stoke.

(I'm so clever :-) )

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05 Jan 2016 21:55:09
Coutinho, Lovren and Toure all hamstring injuries, plus Ibe keeps rubbing his arm/ shoulder.

Good result though.

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05 Jan 2016 22:06:08
He has fleas.


05 Jan 2016 22:16:53
He had his mmr last week.


05 Jan 2016 21:50:29
2 centre backs needed in January now.

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05 Jan 2016 22:04:12
Ilori 😏.


05 Jan 2016 22:08:03
I never thought of him. I wonder if he will get in the f. a cup squad.


05 Jan 2016 22:08:41
His name is Llori.


05 Jan 2016 22:09:48
Think Ilori is injured too.


05 Jan 2016 22:12:20
Hamstring? If it is I wonder will souness blame klopp for his aswell.


05 Jan 2016 22:15:30
It is ilori.


05 Jan 2016 22:18:15
I know Andy K - it was stupid, but i somehow couldn't resist.


05 Jan 2016 23:40:16
So another 2 and then when the other 3 out are back what happens then?


05 Jan 2016 21:39:23
In all fairness Joe Allen had a decent game
Up the pool.

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05 Jan 2016 21:38:59
Well played Joe Allen. Good game.

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05 Jan 2016 21:17:26
In regards to injuries, wasn't this a major problem for klopp last season at Dortmund. Seems to be a recurring theme.

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05 Jan 2016 22:01:35
That would sugest it would of been a problem for the previous 6 also. The players are tired after a hectic few week, that's it.


05 Jan 2016 23:41:37
Yeah his methods can wreck certain players. Dortmhnds injury record under tuchel has vastly improved this season compared to under klopp. There is a certain point when its stops being hamstrings and starts become knee injuries.


05 Jan 2016 20:55:05
Okay I'll be the one to say it. Allen meant that pass :)

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05 Jan 2016 20:57:20
Ha not a chance but a bit harsh from souness saying ibe miscontrolled it.


05 Jan 2016 21:03:17
Of course he did benny. no more need to be said in the matter :) .


05 Jan 2016 21:56:40
Souness, great player, poor pundit and manager.


05 Jan 2016 22:22:39
He also said that these hamstring injuries are happening because of the training klopp puts the players through.


05 Jan 2016 20:53:12
Good 1st half, good passing and movement, gutted about the injuries especially with Arsenal and Utd coming up.

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05 Jan 2016 19:51:58
punters on skysports slagging off our team. this is were they do amazing. it happens a lot :)

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05 Jan 2016 20:52:46
Ha ha brilliant! Shame about lovren and couts.


05 Jan 2016 19:15:15
Gutted about the line up and no texeria even on bench. We are trying the same formulas with a few tweaks such as Allen. Why is texeria not getting a sniff? I keep repeating it over and over but we have a player that has far more ability than a good few starting tonight. I'm assuming he's not showing klopp enough in training because I cannot believe based on ability he is being ignored.

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05 Jan 2016 19:26:14
dissapointed with the line up too. klopp seems really content with continho, lallana, firmino playing together. hopefully its just a mentality issue to why these guys aren't working. I want to see real improvements tonight.


05 Jan 2016 19:54:29
Think about it - 2 games and in the final - also another game in 3 days against a team from the lower divisions. Maybe there will be a few more youngsters in that team!


05 Jan 2016 20:01:54
Jurgen doesn't seem to think so.


05 Jan 2016 20:15:37
Judging on the first 15 mins Klopp seems to know what he's doing and what to expect.

Who'd have thought it?


05 Jan 2016 20:40:08
taffy tel, things are going well, but stoke are really awful.


05 Jan 2016 20:59:02
Wiseryn seriously? No pleaseing some people its laughable now!


05 Jan 2016 21:01:37
We are making Stoke look poor.


05 Jan 2016 22:19:20
just speaking the truth, but who says i'm not pleased. stoke were bad, improved in the second half. liverpool playing with a makeshift team. I'm pleased but still dissapointed with our new signings benteke and firmino.


05 Jan 2016 19:12:52
Disappointed to see moreno starting. I was fully convinced that Smith would get a run.

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05 Jan 2016 19:19:37
Bit harsh on Moreno. I wanted Smith to start but Moreno is still a safer option for a Semi Final.


05 Jan 2016 19:28:59
Maybe. Just very disappointed in his final ball but maybe the semi isn't the time to change it.


05 Jan 2016 19:34:05
At least Milner is on the bench if needed.


05 Jan 2016 20:36:31
Need a center half big time in this transfer.


05 Jan 2016 19:06:55
Sp tonight we once again get to see the 3 am's roaming across the front and interchnging. we've beaten Chelsea City and Saints convincingly with this forward line, and then played poorly when its not there.

For the giggles I'll leave myself open to ridicule and say as long as we can keep the defense tight, we'll beat stoke convincigly tonight. what's that I hear you say, give us a numeric number to go off so it's not subjective. ok 3-0 would be my bet, or LFC-2.

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05 Jan 2016 19:13:27
Origi played in the Saints game mind. It's a team set up to counter attack, and hopefully not concede. Hopefully Stoke come at us and we could hit them, I like the three in the middle, hopefully allows the press to work!


05 Jan 2016 19:32:58
I do apologise you're right, My general point was the lack of Benteke and a frontline willing to work should see us win comfotably.


05 Jan 2016 19:06:09
Really cannot believe tonights line-up, think we are in for a long night.

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05 Jan 2016 19:14:48
He's trying to secure ourselves a little. Be more compact, more work with firmino than benteke.


05 Jan 2016 19:40:33
Think it's more that it's simply the best of what we have available. It doesn't make for great reading, but difficult to see anything substantially different from this 11 given who's fit.


05 Jan 2016 20:09:01
No this won't be a long night, it'll be heavy metal full tilt.


05 Jan 2016 19:07:38
The real time live chat page is now open for today's liverpool match
Liverpool Live Chat page

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05 Jan 2016 19:35:05
Ed just been on the Live Chat page fantastic mate excellent idea.


05 Jan 2016 18:45:48
Hi Eds,

I wonder if you might comment as to the readiness of Liverpool this window. With Klopp fairly recently appointed, will his influence have changed targets, or modified transfer expectations within the club? Is the club transitioning targets to those Klopp may show more interest in, or is it business as usual?

On a slightly different track, how has Klopp's appointment affected the rest of management behind the scenes? Is there a sense of things running more smoothly than under BR, or are the club going about their business as perhaps they previously planned?

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{Ed001's Note - of course his influence has changed it, seems an odd question when the manager chooses the targets. Again the back room staff has changed, how could things not have changed? As for more smoothly, that really depends on who you are and your viewpoint.}

05 Jan 2016 21:56:25
Apologies, must be my understanding. I had thought there were targets the organization used to look at irrespective of the manager.


{Ed001's Note - the scouts will find players, but the targets to buy come from the manager.}

05 Jan 2016 18:40:23
Hi eds, hope you all had a good time over the holidays.
I'm just wondering, how likely is it that Klopp goes back to his old club for some new recruits? Granted, there are some individuals that I would love to see at Liverpool, but are the rumours Gundogan and Aubameyang just optimistic ideas as a result of Klopp becoming our new manager?
Cheers guys.

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{Ed001's Note - considering he said he would not be doing that, there will not be much of that happening.}

05 Jan 2016 16:13:34
Serbian newspaper reporting that Grujic has passed a medical and the deal will be annonced soon after Marko had dinner with Klopp.

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05 Jan 2016 16:33:51
Excellent news. Really excited about this player.


05 Jan 2016 17:05:51
EMS - I cannot understand why it would be in the Serbian papers, yet nothing over here, including our local Echo.


05 Jan 2016 17:44:02
Not expecting any fireworks from him. He's a young lad, he'll need time to settle in.


05 Jan 2016 19:01:00
I did post yesterday saying he'd hash is medical.


05 Jan 2016 15:54:31
oh for a striker.

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05 Jan 2016 16:19:40
Sturridge, Benteke, Ings, Sinclair, Yesil? Plus Origi, Firmino, Ibe, Kent and Milner all capable of playing there.

Benteke, Firmino, Ibe and Kent are all available now and Sturridge, Origi and Milner are due back soon (Milner actually started out as a striker at Leeds and played there for Man City last season) . Yesil and Ings back in the summer. Sinclair admittedly will leave thanks to his choice of agent.


05 Jan 2016 16:26:41
Balotelli as well EMS, unfortunately. We have no lack of strikers and arguably quite a few more than most. Whether they are of the requisite quality or not is a separate question.


05 Jan 2016 16:29:32
No offence. I take your point that we have plenty who can play up top but i'd rather play sakho up top than milner.


05 Jan 2016 16:32:36
Milner capable of playing there? Pleaaaaseeeee!


05 Jan 2016 16:34:19
Milner!? What do you think they're smoking over there in the East Midlands? 😉.


05 Jan 2016 16:42:55
The same Milner who led the line against Bayern Munich last year and got a goal? I'm not saying our options are ideal or world class. The original poster is insinuating that there is nobody to call on though when we have £70m of talent available for todays game in Benteke and Firmino.

We need to sell at least one of Sturridge, Benteke or Ings if we wish to sign yet another out and out striker. Some would even argue Origi is a striker although I think he is better on the left of an attacking 3.

We have options. We can't just sign players to cover injuries. That is financially irresponsible and will only cause bigger issues in the future. Do you lot not read Ed002's replies? We are in debt and already have more striker options than most teams in the league.


05 Jan 2016 16:58:01
We have only just sold/ loaned Borini, Lambert, Aspas, Alberto, Sterling and Balotelli less than 6 months ago. Not to mention Suarez and Carroll less than 18 months ago.

When are we going to finally accept that our problem is just as much to do with service as it is the strikers we are going through like hot dinners? The only strikers we've had who were successful, created their chances themselves or for eachother; Sterling, Suarez and Sturridge. We need to start looking at lack of creativity and stop scapegoating our strikers as the sole problem. Henderson sets up more goals than any other player in the team and he has been injured. Meanwhile Coutinho, Firmino and Lallana have been playing like Donkeys. Did you guys know that Milner and Moreno are our two highest chance creators in the league this season? That is shocking. A left back and an underperforming midfielder are creating more chances than about £80m of attacking midfielders. We've been useless as a team for far too long and Klopp isn't going to fix the average team Rodgers left behind in a quarter of a season. So let's just stop using scapegoats and accept that nobody has been good enough.

Strikers used to come to Anfield and be worshipped and supported like heros. And they responded by giving us 100%. Now they get slaughtered if they take more than 5 games to start banging goals in. It's getting ridiculous. The criticism isn't even constructive.


05 Jan 2016 18:19:41
May I please just mention to EMS that Milton Keynes is in the South East, not the East Midlands (if I recall correctly that you said you live in MK) .


05 Jan 2016 18:27:50
We had no problems when we had Suarez and Sturridge, it's just a combination of bad luck with injuries and poor signings.
I hope if Origi can be played more once fit to gain experience then kick on for next year really when the whole team will have gained fitness and accustomed to Klopp and his tactics. He appears hungrier and a better fit than Benteke at present.
I was thinking a short term loan for a proven striker might be needed but on reflection let's give our current squad more experience and time instead.


05 Jan 2016 18:56:52
Shelvey lead the line for us too, doesn't mean he's a good choice.


05 Jan 2016 19:11:35
I'm originally from Kettering Kyle.


05 Jan 2016 21:08:34
Hello EMS I'm a neighbour in Rothwell!


05 Jan 2016 14:20:39
Hoping for texeria to start tonight . Hopefully.

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05 Jan 2016 15:16:48
I'd like to see him play but I expect there's more chance he'll get a game on Friday. It will be interesting to see if Benteke starts.


05 Jan 2016 15:44:10
I can't see Tex playing tonight. I do wonder if we might see Smith playing a left back tho.


05 Jan 2016 16:33:14
I know it's tv stuff, but why are we the game Friday night when only 4 teams are playing midweek and we are one of them.


05 Jan 2016 18:04:47
Fencey, it is the same as playing on a Wednesday and then a Saturday.


05 Jan 2016 14:08:08
Watched what I can of Grujic, which in all honesty is not too much. Needs to sharpen up his first touch and be a bit quicker on the ball for the Premier League, but that can be said of a lot of players from overseas.
He is tall and strong, good eye for a pass and likes to shoot from fairly deep. Videos I have seen show him dominating the midfield, but n a league where he has a millenium on the ball before he is closed down. He is quick into a challenge and presses well, but looks like he likes to go down easily.
All in all he looks like a decent prospect and will give some much needed height to midfield. If he does sign then I hope he stays from now to bed in and get some LFC minutes, would make next aeason easier for him and therefore us.

Eds, do any of you have a deeper knowledge of him? I have searched and found opinions here and there but nothing of much detail.
Fully understand that not many people watch the Seria 1 League all too often but thought i'd ask just in case.

Thanks in advance, happy new year to all.

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{Ed002's Note - I have previously explained what Chelsea's plans for him were - and that should give you a clue about their view on readiness. If you think their view is not worthy of much, have a think about Markovic, Rabiot and Depay and their views on them.}

05 Jan 2016 14:54:47
But eds we don't all get it right all the time. Don't forget about salah, cuadrado and they never gave de bruyne a chance.


{Ed002's Note - You are perhaps speaking from a position of ignorance over these players - who were (a) not young, and (b) went for a variety of reasons you clearly don't understand. Try and get away from the obsession with Chelsea - it is very embarrassing for the Liverpool supporters.}

05 Jan 2016 15:47:38
Markovic hasn't had a full shot and was allways stuck at wingback in a mediocre liverpool team. he could flourish under klopp plus he's 21. klopp should recall him if we can. markovic is at sterlings level, has potential except he's not english, so gets no attention.


05 Jan 2016 15:24:35
Sorry ed002 but you were the one using Chelsea in reply to the OP, don't get me wrong I agree with your comment fully, but its not a Chelsea obsession when someone else brought it up.


{Ed002's Note - The reply was relevant as Grujic was a young player Chelsea were looking to buy. The three players mentioned were not young and inexperienced players - all of which were or will son be sold for significant profit. As such, the poster was speaking from position of ignorance (as he clearly doesn't know that there were specific reasons for leach leaving) - it is the standard obsesssing with Chelsea with Chelsea - embarrassing.}

05 Jan 2016 15:40:57
Ed002 - in fairness it was you who brought Chelsea into this discussion. The original post was about Grujic, providing the poster's initial thoughts on him and asking if the Eds had any deeper insight. You immediately brought Chelsea into your response. Your first sentence was relevant and useful as a response to the question. Your second sentence seemed to be more about proving Chelsea's ability to judge a player. If I had to chose between your response and that of "BrendanRogers" as to which one suggests the greater "obsession with Chelsea", I would definitely say it was yours.


{Ed002's Note - The reply was relevant as Grujic was a young player Chelsea were looking to buy and it was good advice in response to his question. The second sentence was to overcome the morons who will simply put the answer down - in the standard way.

Idiots like you who bleat about answers given are the reason that sometimes it is not worth answering questions asked. I know I am wasting much of my time answering questions here and clearly you are not happy with the site, so I have resolved that for you.}

05 Jan 2016 16:09:01
I think that's a tad over thoughtful about not being English Wise Ryan. Even at Wingback he had chances to push on for us and I must say I thought he looked lost out there and behind the pace of the game. I think this season playing regular in his preferred position will be beneficial all round.
Same as Kent, Canos and Ward (obviously Ward always playing as a keeper)


05 Jan 2016 17:08:59
Personally I think if a 19 year old kid who costs less than Alberto or Ilori from a fairly poor league is able to walk into our first team then you know we have problems. My expectation is the kid is around the first team next season, but unlikely to feature much if at all. Anything more would be a bonus.


05 Jan 2016 17:16:57
Tbh I just wanted to get burned by Chelsea ed002. I had the alloa Vera ready to use but thanks for the support guys.


05 Jan 2016 14:08:08
Watched what I can of Grujic, which in all honesty is not too much. Needs to sharpen up his first touch and be a bit quicker on the ball for the Premier League, but that can be said of a lot of players from overseas.
He is tall and strong, good eye for a pass and likes to shoot from fairly deep. Videos I have seen show him dominating the midfield, but n a league where he has a millenium on the ball before he is closed down. He is quick into a challenge and presses well, but looks like he likes to go down easily.
All in all he looks like a decent prospect and will give some much needed height to midfield. If he does sign then I hope he stays from now to bed in and get some LFC minutes, would make next aeason easier for him and therefore us.

Eds, do any of you have a deeper knowledge of him? I have searched and found opinions here and there but nothing of much detail.
Fully understand that not many people watch the Seria 1 League all too often but thought i'd ask just in case.

Thanks in advance, happy new year to all.

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{Ed002's Note - I have previously explained what Chelsea's plans for him were - and that should give you a clue about their view on readiness. If you think their view is not worthy of much, have a think about Markovic, Rabiot and Depay and their views on them.}

05 Jan 2016 13:31:50
Its a cup match tonight so it might actually suit Liverpool tonight in respect that Stoke will come out to try and get a goal or two. In fact it could suit us tonight more than the home game. By no means confident tho.

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05 Jan 2016 13:56:55
I'm hoping for a win even if it is just a snatch and grab. That means they will have to come to Anfield to win and it'll be a more open and entertaining game. If they win though, they'll turn up at Anfield to spoil and it'll kill the excitement of the tie.


05 Jan 2016 15:19:00
Should at least be open, Stoke will want a first leg lead so hopefully there'll be some space for our forwards.


05 Jan 2016 15:40:15
We'll batter them! 😃.


05 Jan 2016 16:16:50
Ron, my favorite thing about you is that no matter the circumstances you predict that Liverpool will be brilliant. Makes me smile every time.


05 Jan 2016 18:27:39
Agreed. he's like a child on Christmas Eve, anything can happen. 😄.


05 Jan 2016 19:09:37
I'll never change lads. You want to see me before kick off, every match I'm anticipating the most incredible LFC performance ever. 😄.


05 Jan 2016 12:43:47
Hi Ed 1 / 2 if you are about. Is it possible that Grujic will stay with us for the rest of the season as the title is wrapped up for Belgrade?

Cheers.

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{Ed001's Note - I have no idea what the plan is with him. Sorry.}

05 Jan 2016 14:07:32
No problem. Cheers mate.


{Ed002's Note - As I have explained on many occasions, the plan is that he returns to Red Star - it is nothing to do with how they are doing in the league.}

05 Jan 2016 14:07:32
No problem. Cheers mate.


{Ed002's Note - As I have explained on many occasions, the plan is that he returns to Red Star - it is nothing to do with how they are doing in the league.}

05 Jan 2016 14:23:14
I asked this yesterday mate but it didn't get posted. I honestly think he will go back on loan for rest of season. that's been said all along so don't see why it would of changed. Echo saying he will go back also.


05 Jan 2016 12:09:51
Hoping to a good reaction from the players tonight it will be a tough game, but after the West Ham match and other games where we were poor it's make or break time for some of these lads. I just want to see them put in a decent shift, not too worried about seeing beautiful football just passion and playing for the shirt and with any luck a good result.

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05 Jan 2016 10:53:49
Hi all, first time poster. Big Fan of site.

4 of us heading over from Ireland to see our first Liverpool game against Sunderland on 6th February. Really excited.

We've flights and accommodation booked but no tickets as of yet.

It says on LFC website that general sale tickets will go on sale to non-members Thursday at 8.15am. We are all going to try buy these but does anyone know if we will actually get tickets or if they sell out straight away.

Our other alternative is to buy from some online sites but they seem to cost in or around 120-150£ which seems excessive and we don't know if they are even reliable.

I would really appreciate some help on this from any of the eds or anyone who has time and knowledge. We would take any tickets available at all.

Could we just wait and see what is available outside anfield on the day?

Many thanks for posting eds.

YNWA.

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05 Jan 2016 12:08:42
Your best route is to join an affiliated supporters club and go through/ with them. The general sale can be ok but you can get left with obscured views. Buying off touts is a last last resort.


05 Jan 2016 13:19:38
Hi red man if you can't get any tickets before you go try done deal. I'm sure you have heard of it? It's like gumtree. You might pay slightly more but at least you will have them and not spend all you time in a panic when you get over. I'm from Belfast and I've got them off the same guy a few times if I can't get them face value. GOODLUCK hope you get sorted.


05 Jan 2016 14:02:04
Better off going through hospitality with liverpool officially than bothering with touts mate. Prob get a decent price and meal etc included. General sale will be hard 2 get especially all seated together. Good luck and if u buy online research it first as lots of cowboys.


05 Jan 2016 15:18:50
There are a few posts on done deal, usually people with season tickets. You might have to leave a deposit but its refunded on your return. Hospitality is expensive, even for the basic package but i suppose if you don't get over too much then why not treat yourself.


05 Jan 2016 10:24:47
Would Ginter from Dortmund be a possibility at all? Quite experienced for a young player already.

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{Ed002's Note - It is a complete waste of our time to ask questions like "would be an option?" The site will become completely unusable very quickly. Try the European pages but not here please.}

05 Jan 2016 11:44:13
Why don't you use the search function to find the list of players which are a possibility? It's really not that difficult. you're opinion on who you think will be a good buy is irrelevant unless we have any interest.


05 Jan 2016 13:13:23
I agree that asking Ed questions on the option of a posters opinion on who would be a good signing joining is not what the site is for, when the site as a search function. I would love the Barcelona front 3, but I am not going to ask the Eds a stupid question like is it an option, am I? It would be brutal a answer for me. Don't be put off relaying your opinion on rumours you have read elsewhere on the web. But before asking a question, just check the search function to see what the Eds know about the players link and if it lazy journalism. Keep up the good work Eds. You know what a taxi driver told me? last night, he picked up Klopps nephew from a hotel in town and he told him to expect big news concerning a top international signing before the end of the window, then the cheeky bugger did a runner before he could ask him who it was Keep posting lads.


05 Jan 2016 10:23:02
Eds do you think we may look at a loan signing or a cheaper signing for up top? Only benteke fit! ! I know a lot will probably disagree but I coukd see remy doing a job for us? Pace goals I would hope eager to play after so long on the sidelines,? Attitude? I've no idea. Weve been very strongly linked with remy before. Just a rhought.

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{Ed002's Note - So Sinclair, Firmino and Ibe are now injured? Sturridge never to play again? Origi not due to return soon? Liverpool has no interest in Loic Remy and Chelsea have fewer strikers than Liverpool - I rather suspect they will be looking to recruit before letting him leave, and the Liverpool fans have "very strongly" linked themselves with absolutely everyone before.

I don't see a striker as a priority for the club.}

05 Jan 2016 10:58:19
I don't think Remy would like to to come Liverpool after how we acted the last time with him.


05 Jan 2016 13:06:03
And most importantly, you're trying to solve an injury crisis with a perpetually injured striker.


05 Jan 2016 14:01:45
I'm afraid that a striker is exactly what we should be looking for based on the fact that Sturridge may well be sold (if he can stay fit long enough) Benteke should be sold Ings is still out for months Firmino and Ibe aren't strikers and Origi isn't ready yet to be the main man.


{Ed002's Note - Sturridge is not going to be sold in January Chris. Benteke isn't going to be sold in January and Origi is soon to return. Ings will rturn in the summer and Sinclair, Firmino and Ibe are more than capable of filling in if needs be.

Is there anyone you would like to suggest?}

05 Jan 2016 14:14:02
I'll volunteer. I've got a good record of 254 goals in 220 games in the last 11 years. I'm injury prone though. I only average about 20 games a season.


05 Jan 2016 14:14:02
I'll volunteer. I've got a good record of 254 goals in 220 games in the last 11 years. I'm injury prone though. I only average about 20 games a season.


05 Jan 2016 15:02:59
I agree neither will be sold in January but that doesn't mean that Sturridge will stay fit or that Benteke will suddenly become good enough.
I don't agree that Firminho or Ibe can fill in certainly not for any length of time or against quality opposition
That leaves us with Origi
I don't want to spend fortunes I want the club to find a player who fits the system and is a goalscorer I'm afraid I don't get paid to know the answers but if someone wants to pay me I'll find the players.


05 Jan 2016 08:30:05
{Ed's Note - We have posted a new article entitled, News Of The Day As Coleman Blames Deulofeu For Change Of Role

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05 Jan 2016 05:44:16
A question more than a rumour. Just wondered what the eds thoughts are on lfc looking for another striker with origi Ings injured and sturridge almost permanently injured and benteke not really seeming to be a klopp favourite.

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{Ed001's Note - I expect it to happen, but not until the summer, but Benteke has not impressed Klopp at all, so is unlikely to have a long term future with us.}

05 Jan 2016 07:02:48
eds, would you play firmino as striker with coutinho as no.10 if you were klopp?


{Ed001's Note - yes.}

05 Jan 2016 07:13:18
with kent and ibe on the wings?


{Ed001's Note - probably, depends on if Smith was left back, in which case I would play Moreno left mid.}

05 Jan 2016 07:47:51
I agree. I actually prefer Smith to Moreno - just looks more solid in possession, better delivery and all round more physical. I would play a diamond with firmino and sturridge up front and coutinho as number 10 with Hendo / Can and one other from Lucas or Milner depending on opposition. Anyway that's my 2 bobs worth from Brisbane.


05 Jan 2016 10:50:58
Smith has played what, 2 first team games? And came on in both.

Bit of a stretch to say he's better than Moreno.

But as per normal, let's all say it together "FLAVOUR OF THE MONTH! "


05 Jan 2016 12:21:50
J H, I don't think it's flavour of the month at all, quite a few people have been calling for smith to start for a while now, Moreno can be quite good on his day but has either lost confidence or has become complacent, his challenges, when he does put one in, aren't as hard and precise as they were earlier in the season. His tracking back has dropped severely, his balls in the final 3rd aren't as good now either. He either needs a break to regain confidence, energy, desire, or just straight up needs to be dropped for a few games so we get back the player we have seen he can be. Smith should be starting now purely for his desire and work rate. Plus these young players have to be given starts at some point, they can't be subs forever and with the way the season has gone and is going, with Klopp needing to see what every player at club is capable of, so now in this moment, and for the remainder of the season the kids should be starting and playing as much as possible in these moments.

In this moment, I believe.


05 Jan 2016 13:15:47
When first team players are underperforming they should be dropped for a game or two to give them a kick up the so and so. Moreno, Clyne, Lucas, Mingolet, Coutinho, Firmino, Lallana and Benteke are all underperforming. Now obviously we can't drop all of them at once. But they should all be dropped maybe 2 at a time just to show them "hey, if you don't play to your best then there's a younger, hungrier player who can and will take your place".

Fulton, Smith, Randall, Rossiter, Chirivella, Brannagan, Teixeira and Kent are all waiting in the background now. We've started seeing signs that they might be getting more chances soon even if it's just from the bench. If that doesn't kick some of the top earners into action, then clearly they don't have the character required to make it here.

The likes of Ward, Ojo, Canos and Yesil will probably be back in the summer as well so these big earners are playing for their futures. And right now, you wouldn't know it.


05 Jan 2016 02:20:37
Hello Ed's and Reds,

I was on YouTube and stumbled on Dirk Kuyt's LFC goals highlights. Couldn't believe he scored 71 goals for us. That's quite a good record. Then, I stumbled on all the 49 goals Benteke scored for Villa so a I said I would watch them to see what he was really like and if Villa played to his strengths. I could not believe what I was watching. In his first two years there, the guy was lethal. He could score different types of goals. He could move, he had pace, he could run with the ball from midfield and score. He attacked crosses, perfect or imperfect, and score. He seemed to try to lose his markers. He was on the move, busted a gut just get into the area to score. All in all, I was impressed with what I saw of the goals he scored. Now, I don't know if he's lacking confidence or the price tag is wearing on him or what but I can tell you that the guy we have now is an impostor, a fake and a fraud. In comparison, the guy just doesn't seem bothered anymore. He lacks the desire and hunger he had at the start of his Villa career to score goals and that is worrying for me. I mean if he moved like that here, he would score a lot more than he's doing now. I know we don't cross the ball well but if he moved his butt to get into the area like at Villa, he would defo score more. I just wanted to share that and invite others to watch his goals as well and let me know what they think. Cheers and best of luck tonight at Stoke!

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05 Jan 2016 03:59:25
here's the deal once you get your desired pay and see yourself successful person the desire to bust a gut is difficult to come from within. ( yaya toure) then what's left to drive you is either passion your passion for the club, for the game, for the manager for the fans or hunger- hunger to be the best in the world, hunger to make the world take notice, hunger for competition. that's what is wrong with benteke he is on a good pay at a big club - so for the moment his life is good ( in the words of JK) -its not he has lost his ability its just he has lost his hunger and that will come when he feels what he has is not enough and desires for more and pushes himself. Unfortunately for us fans that happens successfully with only 1 in 100 players. ( btw he has been scoring for us, and he could score in every game but he doesn't go about it putting in a real shift)


05 Jan 2016 04:03:08
Benteke has a weird tendency to score a lot more in the second half of the season for some reason.

In 12/ 13 for Villa, he scored 19 total, but 13 of them were after January 13th.

In 13/ 14, he only scored 10, and 2 of those were penalties. He did rupture his Achilles in April of 2014, but scored 6 of the 10 between January and then.

Last year he scored 13, with 11 coming after March.

Hoping his second half is again better this season as well.


05 Jan 2016 05:53:52
Funny how those highlight videos work.


05 Jan 2016 06:35:06
A lot of players coming to LFC in recent years seem to be playing much worse than in former clubs. Take Lambert and Baloteli last year. Take Lallana, Lovern until recently. I am sure Firmino was much better last year otherwise we wouldn't spend so much money on him. I find it hard to believe that Milner was so poor in City although not 100% sure on that. I don't know if it is the pressure, style that doesn't suit them, poor quality of other players, how easy it is for opposition teams to close us down but it is a fact. Players come to us and drop a level in their form.


05 Jan 2016 07:25:18
I don't think you can count Lambert.
I thought it was a pointless signing but you have to admit the lad never got a decent run in the team.


05 Jan 2016 09:00:17
Under Lambert Villa played counter attacking football a lot, hewas provided a lot of space with the often 3 up top, Striker worried about Bent, running off the shoulder, Gabby running in behind when he still had a modicum pf pace and wasn't a bit chubby, and weimann also helped with his work rate.
This all afforded Benteke room to find space, and made him fight for a place at the age of 22.It was no surprise Villa garnered more success when the brought in Bent in the 12/ 13 season in Jan. After that though I really don't remember him being a work horse. for the most part though.


05 Jan 2016 11:53:30
It's probably because when a player plays for your club, you look at the player in far greater detail. Plus the opinions of other people affect your perception of the player because you start looking for things highlighted by other people.

I'm 100% sure that if Ed01 says Benteke should play in goals, you'd all be heading to Sports Direct to buy him a pair of gloves.


05 Jan 2016 12:32:39
I know this is Benteke based but on Firmino, he has been ok if not good most games, he does a hell, of a job off the ball both attacking and defending, in fact his numbers for pressing the opposition are the 2nd highest at the club for successful presses, either winning the ball himself or making the opponent lose the ball and we gain it. His runs in and around the box are constantly opening teams up, a lot of the work he does is not noticed if u watch on the telly, but he is doing it, also his adjustment time will be longer as he has come from a different league and to another new country. I have no doubt that by the end of the season or the start of next we will really start to see his quality, he is beginning to gel with the squad but has a way to go and I think he will become lethal given time.

In this moment, I Believe.


05 Jan 2016 12:53:01
Kuyt is still scoring goals now. He actually had a very under rated goal ratio at LFC considering he spent most games out of position in right midfield because Gerrard refused to play there.

Kuyt scored very important goals for us. When nobody else was at their best he was consistently on hand to grind out results for us through his sheer determination. A proper modern club Legend for me. His work ethic was backed up with quality.


05 Jan 2016 13:36:13
Totally agree EMS.

Kuyt is one of the most underrated Liverpool Players in my time. What he lacked in ability he made up for in work rate.

I'm sure he was dubbed the man for the big occasion because of the goals he scored.


05 Jan 2016 14:45:56
I think kuyt most suited to the right, his work rate was incredible, his composure was excellent and he was throng in the air. The amount of goal kicks aimed towards him on the right was substantial and he won most against the left backs.
Who can score a hatrick against United and not be loved!


05 Jan 2016 02:22:27
So it seems our choices for cb are, matip on a free whos only a toure replacement. Or subotic, whos not been the same player, since his injuries and can't even get in the dortmund side at cb, ahead of sven bender a cdm. i'd rather take the expensive option ed2 mentioned and go for nilklas sule.

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04 Jan 2016 23:59:22
Any news on Aubameyang signing from Dortmund?

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{Ed007's Note - That's never going to happen, he's available but LFC simply can't afford the type of money Dortmund want for him.}

05 Jan 2016 12:34:21
This is why we should be allowed to have a transfer jar, so we can all put in 100 squid and get the club to buy him :D.


{Ed001's Note - you can feel free to put your money in a jar and I will make sure the club gets it. Honest. ;-)

 
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