Liverpool Banter Archive July 05 2014

05 Jul 2014 23:30:18
Assuming Suarez goes to Barca.

If we played them in the Champions league this season, what do you guys think the reaction will be in a return to Anfield? ANd what would his be?

It is inevitable we will be drawn in the same group

06 Jul 2014 01:47:54
he will be clapped and cheered with the occasional boo,s. lfc supporters aren't hard core!, just an observation

06 Jul 2014 01:41:52
But play first and he misses because he is a person that bites people 80m bite their hand off and run I say.

The worm is back I see.

For me his presence will be an irrelevance. The only reception I will give is to our own players.

06 Jul 2014 09:57:42
If He gets chance to score, He would defo.

Oh yes! How great it is to be in the Champions League.

If he gets a chance to cheat he will without thinking twice.

05 Jul 2014 22:52:12
Loving Costa Rica. Come on lads, beat these Dutchies.

They are leading a charmed life Ken. Anything can happen in penalties now. Great game tho. Loving this world cup.

06 Jul 2014 00:13:30
This Van gaal looks trouble . He should stick to managing the Dutch team.

05 Jul 2014 22:38:51
i wonder how many millions was lost on england at the world cup, did anyone have them not to get out of the group

I didn't think we'd get out of the group despite it being fairly weak

Same here Chris, I thought Italy and Uruguay would beat us because they are just better than us. I thought we'd beat Costa Rica, they've pleasantly surprised me.

05 Jul 2014 23:08:04
Our squad is good enough. Sounds funny to say but if this team was managed by Sven we'd have been 1/4 finalists I'm sure of it.

Totti you are as deluded as the English media

06 Jul 2014 00:18:04
I agree with you Totti, Its the media which is at fault, they wanted an English manager, they forgot the last one failed to qualify them to the major tournament , this one failed to come out the of the group . not to forget it was the Italian manager that got us to the finals

So its nothing to do with the quality of English players then OR the lack of England players in the prem.
Don't blame the media or Roy, blame the people who decide what's best for English youth football.

{Ed001's Note - but it was totally Roy's fault. He picked the team and chose tactics completely unsuited to the players he had available to him. If he had got the best out of his players, but they had still gone out, then you can blame the quality of player. He didn't, so that makes it his fault.}

Sorry Ed but we will have to agree to disagree on that.
IMO Roy selected the best players available to play for England, they were basically the best of a bad bunch. There is not enough technically gifted players available to choose from, even if he went with different tactics in games I still believe we would'nt of got out of the group stages.

{Ed001's Note - but that is besides the point. The point is that unless Woy gets the best out of the players he has, then it is his fault. Costa Rica has weaker players, but they got through. So how can it be the lack of technically gifted players? A good manager gets the best out of the resources at his disposal, a crap manager like Roy doesn't.}

You have to be deluded to suggest the problem was the quality of the team, on a particularly pessimistic day I might agree that was partially responsible but roy also would have to shoulder some of it - but i'm a realist and roy is tactically inept, seems totally incapable of instilling an ounce of motivation in his players and refuses to accept that players need to earn their place in the squad

B_J
Roy should have to take some of the blame for the Englands crap world cup, that goes without saying but he should'nt have to take the whole blame.
The players just was'nt good enough and to be honest I don't think Mourino/Rogers/Gaal/or Benny Hill as manager would of made a shred of difference.

If you were to offer the top clubs in the world the opportunity to choose half a dozen players from the starting eleven of either England, Costa Rica, Uruguay, Colombia, Switzerland, Algeria, or Nigeria - which national team do you think they would pick as the pool of players to choose from?

And if the team chosen by most clubs is the one that finishes last in its group - well, whose fault is that likely to be?

05 Jul 2014 22:03:57
Ed001, any chance of a quick comment?

Lots are saying this and that about our defence (and rightly so) and there are some who think we should have a complete new back 4, even if they don't know that's what they are saying! Do you think this would be a good or bad idea? I think the latter, as surely it would take a few games to learn how each other works and by then we could be out of the race!

{Ed001's Note - depends on how it happens. If Sakho is going to be first choice, then whoever is alongside him will need to establish an understanding with him. No point sticking with Skrtel and Johnson, as neither have an understanding with him or each other, if they are not seen as the long term option. Normally I would agree, that you would only want to change one at a time, if possible, but the defence was not a unit last season, so breaking that up would not really affect it. If Kelly is brought in as a partner, with Flanno at right back, then you have two players who should know each other well as team mates. So that would lessen any understanding issues massively. Then the change is limited to a new left back, who would have to develop that understanding. It is certainly not ideal though.

Not so quick a comment sorry!}

05 Jul 2014 22:23:26
Interesting comments about Kelly and Flanagan knowing each others play, do you actually think there is any chance that this could happen? Definitely think Kelly could have a future at centre back as oppose to right back

{Ed001's Note - Kelly is to be given a chance in preseason at centre back, up to him to take it now. It is likely to be Flanno next to him, as Johnson won't be back initially.}

Edd do u not think it was our gung ho approach that maybe cost us conceding goals. given our squad was small, the only option really s to go all out . maybe if we weren't so offensive we would have conceded less?

{Ed001's Note - but that gung ho approach also forced the opposition to hold more players back and play from deeper. That would have helped the defence out too.}

I think Enrique and Sakho should stay starting 11.

get in Yedlin to compete with Johnson, Flano & get in Layun to compete with Enrique

06 Jul 2014 00:08:46
Thanks Ed, I don't mind the long ones either, especially class ones like that!

Would you be happy with Flanno RB and Kelly RCB in a group CL match against one of the big boys, as that is something that still worries me somewhat?

{Ed001's Note - I would be happier with that than I would be with Johnson and Skrtel in those positions.}

06 Jul 2014 08:30:13
Would be delighted if Kelly could nail down that spot. Although I have said I would like a first choice centre back like lovren I would be delighted to see Kelly and Flanagan playing in our back four together as think they have ability as well as passion for the club.
Think there is any chance of Rodgers seeing how our centre halves perform in pre season before going back in for lovren?

{Ed001's Note - there is a chance with the price being quoted so high, especially as we haven't offloaded any yet.}

But wasn't one of the main failings last season that we had no leader in defence, Sakho doesn't seem to be one and surely Kelly isn't so that's why we need the likes of Lovren

05 Jul 2014 21:35:56
Edd001
Can I ask what you thing of wenger as a manager?
And lampard as a player, well in his younger years?
Random but i.would be interested in your thoughts mate

{Ed001's Note - I have to admit I am a little biased as I have met him and found him to be a really nice man. Overall though, leaving bias out of it, I think he was brilliant, but he has become too stubborn in recent years and forgotten the way he set his teams out that won him trophies. Initially he was in the forefront of all the technological advances and emphasised technique allied to power and pace. He created teams with balance to them, with Petit and Gilberto Silva, he had holding midfielders who broke up play and didn't charge forward at every opportunity. Nowadays his holding midfielders are make do and mend with Arteta etc used there, when it clearly doesn't suit their play or skill sets. Arsene is a very clever man, but he doesn't seem to want to do anything about that, nor does he want to spend money unless he has to. I think he has just lost that edge he had when he first came here, as nowadays all the managers use the technology and he is not buying players to create a balance in the side. Was a great manager but now he is just a very good manager.

Lampard is one of those players who has made the absolute maximum of his talents. I have the utmost respect for him for that. He has never been as naturally gifted as Gerrard, but he has worked so hard that he was able to be compared with him as the best English midfielders of their generation. He lacked the pace, the strength, that ability to play 50 yard pinpoint passes, but he has a fantastic footballing brain, which has enabled him to score so many goals as he always knew where to be to get on the end of balls breaking. He also worked so hard on his technique to be able to hit so many on target, which allowed him to get so many goals from deflections. It was partly luck, but luck that came from working so hard to get into place to hit the ball and get the luck.}

Great read, I agree about arsene, he's not the manager he use to be but I have always been.envious of how his teams play'
On.lampard, I agree he is a great professional, not so keen on his friendship with terry but terrys another story.
Cheers mate

{Ed001's Note - you are welcome, sorry I got a bit carried away.}

06 Jul 2014 04:43:23
Ed001, many thanks for your comments. I really enjoy your open and honest views. so let me ask you this. Are Arsenal or Liverpool a bigger draw for non-UK players? I am obviously biased but I look at the trajectory of the 2 clubs. I look at the 2 managers today (as you said above Wenger is still great but maybe not excellent as he was before) and you look at Rogers and the newer generation who are playing attacking aggressive football, so would players look at us as a flash in the pan versus Arsenal who are perennial Champions League participants? I find it so hard to separate the emotion from this, but really struggle when you look at the style of play and the results from last season and someone would say. oh I am going to join Arsenal? Using Sanchez as an example, could he not see how he would be an incredible fit in our system? Yes, I know there are so many variable. but wonder if because we are just back threatening for one season that we get discounted somewhat

{Ed001's Note - depends on the player. It is an impossible question to answer as each has their own peculiarities, likes and dislikes. Some areas of Spain, for example, everyone's second team is Liverpool, so any of the people from that area would choose us over any other. Almost every player watches the Premier League, so in recent years Arsenal have built up a huge following, so a lot of players would choose them because they are always up there. Some would want to live in London, because it is easier to fly home from there than anywhere else in the UK.}

05 Jul 2014 21:13:44
Am I the only one that doesn't know whether to want Holland to win or lose. I want them to do well for Dirk but then want them to loss because of Van Persie and Van Gaal.

I wanted them to lose because I like the Costa Rica story, but Holland losing to Brazil in the final is the ideal result.
It gives Van Gaal less time to concentrate on the Mancs.

05 Jul 2014 19:27:52
Eds,

Any chance we can have an alternate page called suarez fc then all the posters who seem to think he wins every game on his own can post their delusional comments there?

05 Jul 2014 20:59:57
Maybe not single handed but the team was set up for him,he did deliver some great moments and made us such a dangerous side to face. Hopefully I'm wrong but the new season maybe a lot harder without him. Only my opinion.
Up the pool

Cool idea.

05 Jul 2014 19:09:35
Well eds how's things. What's the story with Jose Enrique not a bad LB when fit or would rodgers want to sell or get rid of thank you joe

{Ed001's Note - he is a very poor left back to work with, never listens to instructions from the coaching staff, never listens to his team mates. He is available for a transfer because of that.}

Thank good, he is a waste of money get rid as soon as pos

05 Jul 2014 16:33:23
hey ed's with suarez seemingly out the door, do you think the club will look to bring in another striker, to play alongside sturridge or will we be playing lone striker with lambert and borini as backups?

{Ed001's Note - I think there are other priorities first mate.}

05 Jul 2014 20:12:12
This transfer window is going to be the most important in years the last we finished 2nd and we failed in the transfer window look how we ended up and with us selling our key goalscorer and assist maker its going to be even more important that we get it right.

Well we are selling our goal scorer and the assist maker, its so similar that we could end up going backwards again

05 Jul 2014 19:47:01
Yedlin won't come for a trial he has barely played for the senior team and I'm not positive how it works but a work permit could be difficult. And the mls is in full swing so a trial is unlikely. Plus his recent hair styles were too flashy so no way

05 Jul 2014 19:31:56
Tell you what if you think about this Liverpool have done rather bloody well.

To go from 7th with a striker that wanted to move to getting in the Champions League (which was the ambition and hopes for all) to almost snatching a title and then getting a rubbish load more poke for said striker even after he loses his head again.at a World Cup and gets banned. I tell you what I'd rather be in this position with us now than back in 7th wouldn't everyone agree?

We have a real cause for optimism now could you have said that before?

I think that's down to the Management at the club. Its been fantstic to watch and once again been exciting to be involved and feeling the nerves in games.

We've got a lad there would go through a wall for us in Lambert. The contrast between him and our almost former No.7 speaks volumes. Adding Lallana was easier than I'd have ever expected and Emre Can well I would think with Sami knowing him we would know a bit more before he came.

With one 2 or possibly 3 in we have quality in the 11 and players returning from loans Ilori also Ibe to possibly step up. I mean its a World of difference isn't it from being 7th and last summers signings? While we hoped Aspas and Alberto could come straight in it unfortunately didn't happen.

Could be a great season.

Careful jiffy, you could get banned for showing optimism!

Tend to agree though.

05 Jul 2014 18:32:09
I think what will happen with Suarez is the same as what heppened with torres Liverpool made them the Stars they are today to many big name players who want to be the top goal scorer so let's see what happens

Torres was broken as a player when he was sold. Suarez is only broken mentally, not physically so I can only see him doing well for Barcelona and it would not surprise me at all if he were to usurp Messi as their top scorer.

If he topped messi with the missing games, then there would be uproar

How is the cannibal broken mentally

I disagree, the only reason suarez has done so well is that the team is set up for him to do well. At barca it is built around messi, I expect suarez to have the same kind of impact as neymar

Suarez is a world class player.
Torres was a world class finisher.
Torres relied on his pace a lot and once he got injured he was always struggling.

Suarez doesn't rely on pace. He'll do brilliantly at Barca, but so what. Once he leaves LFC I couldn't give a conker about him.

Suarez won't suit them that well either, their game being very possession based and Suarez likes to try things which don't always come off. Barca won't like him losing the ball as much he did for us, we didn't mind because he could create something out of nothing but in Barca I think they'll want his pass percentage to be better and to leave more of the magic to Messi.

The only difference is we already have his replacement on the books in Studge. no need to look for a 20+ goalscorer just another talent to develop like Muriel.

05 Jul 2014 17:09:10
Was just thinking out loud that Lille want Origi to stay on loan for his season as they believe it would be good for his development.yet he is the main striker for Belgium in the a World Cup Quarter Final.

He must be massively behind in his development ;-)

05 Jul 2014 16:50:55
So many moronic posts today about expecting £80m and upwards. Sighting wrongly an £80m clause. If you use the right currency (euros) that is the figure the eds say we wanted, they also say barca wanted to pay 70m euros but settled for a price half way between 70 & 80. So 75m euros which converts into £'s using the search engine at £59m & change. I trust 002. I wish it was the £63m it says in the papers or even better the £80m plus the fans wanted but the guy took a bite out of 3 players & could easily do it again. Add to that his wage which costs us a lot weekly (while he can't even train) with what we may save in that although he'll probably & stupidly get a loyalty bonus too!

His release clause is just over 70m pounds.if we decide to accept lower than that then its on us

Hes also 29 in 18 months, a remarkable sum for a player who has had so many problems and for that age

Are you being serious or are you joking Conbicks? Doesn't look like sarcasm but I hope that's supposed to be a joke!

05 Jul 2014 16:30:56
Once Suarez leaves we will be in trouble! sturridge feeds off the quality of suarez, which won't be there no more. the missing of creative of suarez is a huge loss, as that makes our team play the way it does. If we don't replace Suarez with a quality signing we have no hope next year, to give a title challenge and even qualifying out of the group stage of CL.

Suarez in my mind is a legend for us because he brought the glory days back for us.

fans respect him for what he did for us. not on the fact he knocked out england, or biting a player.

{Ed001's Note - but he bit a player while playing for us, or are you so busy defending the indefensible you are conveniently forgetting that? We wouldn't miss him sat on the sidelines collecting huge amounts of money for yet another ban would we? Nor would we miss this constant whine from his apologists about how he is wonderful, when he has done nothing to deserve the pathetic adoration. Legend? Not even close to one. Legends don't threaten court action to get a move away. Brought the glory days back? How on earth did he do that? Did he win us the Prem and Champions League on his own?}

Correct me if i'm wrong but Sturridge scored

3 Vs. Fulham
2 Vs Newcastle
1 against Stoke, Villa, Manchester United & Swansea all while Suarez was suspended

Sturridge is a good player with or without Suarez

Suarez had to go, it's as simple as that. I do agree that our attack will be weakened with his departure, as you say he does work well with Sturridge and brings a fear factor very few can.

We cannot replace him like for like, perhaps a wide forward and another striker but that is probably too much to ask.

As a fan he is the most exciting player I have seen in a red shirt but he had to go. Replacing his goals/assists will be tough but so will his desire to win. We just have to back Brendan to get it right.

I posted the other day that both Ajax and ourselves actually both have significantly higher win ratios without him in the team. Suarez has proved both on and off the pitch he is not a team player but is a selfish self centred child. As it is a team game we will be able to invest the fee strengthen and in fact be stronger when he is got, not the reverse.

Far too much credit to Suarez. Last I checked, Suarez was here when we finished 6th, 8th, and 7th was he not? Or did he just join last season and I imagined those others? The reason we jumped up the table was due to new signings performing well (Sturridge and Coutinho), the improvement in form of existing players (Henderson and Sterling in particular), and the adoption of a play style that allows for more goals at both sides of the pitch.

Liverpool made Suarez great, it is not solely Suarez which makes Liverpool great.

Tonkz99
Y and how could you ever use the word legend in the same sentance as suarez? You are putting him intothe same catergory as dalglish, souness and gerrard. You must be 5 or you wouldnever do this, suarez as a player is world class, as a person and a member of lfc he is a beep

Sturridge will be fine without saurez!
plus we have lallana, couthinio, sterling and gerrard who will create plenty of chances for sturridge

Tonkz I happen to agree with you. Despite his antics he is a match winner and we are going to suffer because of it.unless he is replaced with someone of similar qualities everyone or most will wish he was back

He's really not a match winner, or at least historically wasn't for us.

Sturridge is a match winner, Suarez is the guy who pounds lesser teams into absolute pieces.

I can see us sliding back down the table

Eds is right, and its not even debatable!

He is a world class player if you can forget how many games he has missed due to his mental age being similar to a 16 year old yob.
He has let his club and country down due to the fact he is unable to forget about himself and his own gripes!

the guy needs to go and quickly. I would at this time take sanchez and 20 million without question

I would rather have 2 very good players than suarez

I agree that he is a truely great player. I don't think it can be argued any other way. He plays with a real fire and passion and I have to say I love the way he celebrates, looking for his family. I would also guess that he is a decent enough guy of the pitch. He comes across quite humble to me. I actually have a degree of sympathy for him but it doesn't take away from the antics that he has done before at our club and previous. Ill advised? South American temperment? Mental issues? I don't know but with the possibility of a 2 year ban hanging over his head I will be happy enough to watch him play for Barca and hopefully upstage Messi in the process. I also hope he learns from his mistakes this time and never repeats them. It would be a waste of a fantastic talent. Its up to you Luis. Good luck for the future.

05 Jul 2014 16:12:02
If lovren cost 25M pounds, i'll rather prefer to try to buy Hummels at a similar price. He is far better than Lovren. For now I'll stay like we are and try to promote Ilori or even L Jones or Paez.

Wages. Key factor, saints don't pay much. Americans adore them.

05 Jul 2014 17:15:21
Fully agree, although Lovren is an excellent CB I just can't see us paying over the supposed £20m bid we have had rejected, I don't think we should be looking at anyrhong over £15m for him to be honest. Time to move on to either another target or as you point out bring Llori in and get him some game time and PL experience and keep are remaining CB's.

Ozone. I feel a stream of negativity coming on from you. It's not what Saints pay in wag that matters but what clubs who also want to sign their players will pay them. Did we get Lallana by offering him an extra two bob a week? No. FSG sanctioned yet another 100k per week salary. The type of contract that then makes it hard to shift people like Agger, Reina etc when they are going to a club with less resources than Liverpool. No doubt you'll then have a pop at Ayre for not getting enough for them?

Not sure why you think Hummels could be gotten, much less for £25M?

I would take olvren for £20-22. he is still young and has many great attributes. not to mention hummels I think is a lot less likely to want to move to LFC and no less likely that his team would not allow him to move

Saints have absolutely rinsed us in this window. We've over paid massively for Lala, Lovren is not worth more than £15m and Lambert is slightly over priced at £4m.

Your right Anfieldboy, I'm on a negative one and I can assure you Lallana won't be on £100k a week.

Ken I usually agree with you but we haven't been rinsed mate. Getting a striker who's responsible for 43% of Saints goals for 4m is daylight robbery. Lallana is their skipper so 25m was always going to be a starting point for a game changer. Lovren I'd agree with. We had our chance at 8m so I think 20m is too much but from a Saints point of view he's much better than Sakho and we paid 18m for him. We've also got CL money (to come), we made more out of TV apps than any other team last season and are just about to sell one player for considerably more than we are paying them for the spine of their team! I'd say we've done pretty well.

05 Jul 2014 14:54:44
Hi eds.
Is there a back up plan incase the lovren deak does not happen? I remember caulker being mentioned just wondered if there was anyone else? Also do you see negredo as an option when suarez is sold? Heard he could be avaliable for around 25mil?

Cheers in advance
YNWA

{Ed002's Note - I have explained repeatedly where I know of interest - RTP.}

05 Jul 2014 14:42:48
Eds assuming we get £75m for suarez, will we have to bank most of that due to FFP or are we free to invest it?

{Ed002's Note - I have no interest in discussing money.}

05 Jul 2014 11:45:51
Hey Ed002,

Been a regular follower of this site for quite a while, and I am getting more and more curious of this money discussions.
I realise that you prefer avoiding the subject, but i'm keen to know how different are all these 'quoted values' are to the actual ones. And where do sites such as BBC get these values from?
I do understand that it may confuse a lot of people including myself, but a brief explaination would be really helpful

Cheers

{Ed002's Note - I have no interest in discussing money.}

05 Jul 2014 16:11:13
No worries

05 Jul 2014 14:30:48
I have this fear that Shaqiri and Hunterlaar will use LFC's interest to strengthen their negotiating and have no intention of moving here, I think Sanchez doesn't want to come here either! I don't know who we will replace Suarez with when he leaves, if any posters on here can ease my worries with who we COULD SIGN please feel free to help me out, some fans say we should not worry it will turn out fine, I hope they are right, but LS shoes are pretty big ones to fill, and some of the transfers we have made the last few seasons have not filled me with confidence, any way we shall see, fingers crossed, so could the regular posters on here (who have a very good football knowledge) please ease my worries and tell me who will make us a better team capable of winning the CL and EPL.

05 Jul 2014 16:53:58
Jack mate have no fear, lfc were here before Luis was even born and will continue to be so long after he's passed, we will survive, have a bit of faith, wait and see what pans out, I'm sure athetico were gutted when Falcao left, they didn't do to badly did they? Costa stepped up and they won the league, we have some real talent on our books and a bright young manager, keep the faith, as a man I respect once said "Don't worry, bout a thing, because every little thing is gona be alright"

05 Jul 2014 14:03:05
Eds, please my I have your opinion on whose place in the team that Lovren would take as I feel as though Skrtel & Lovren would be Brendan's first choice. I would prefer to start Lovren and Sakho personally as these to would definitely work better as a unit and both have better positional sense than Martin.

{Ed001's Note - Skrtel is not Rodgers' preferred player at all. Lovren would be his replacement.}

05 Jul 2014 12:59:11
Good Afternoon All,

Reminiscing about seasons past, what would be your most memorable? I couldn't split the double in '86 (KK was immense as player manager) and winning the CL in '05. Runner-up was the Treble in '01. Anyone around longer than I have been to remember some of the older successes?

Have a great weekend Reds and Ed's.

1977. League winners, getting beat 2-1 by man u in the fa cup final and then travelling overland in a transit van to Rome to win the European cup for the first time.

It has to be the 06 fa cup final.we were about 6 listening to this very small radio and we all had to struggle for ear space

05 Jul 2014 14:45:18
It has to be '05 for me.

Robbie77, my Dad picked that too, I was born a couple of weeks after!

Robbie 77. It's still my most vivid memory from years past - the European Cup Final. Liverpool dominated most of the game, and the defining moment was Kevin Keegan scurrying towards goal, one on one against Vogts ("the bulldog"), and daring him to bring him down for a penalty.

05 Jul 2014 16:09:23
I am old enough to remember 1977, and my main memory is seeing all the red and white checked flags in the Olympic Stadium in Rome.

The most satisfying league season for me was 1978-79. Played 42, won 30, drew 8, lost 4, 85 goals scored I think, 16 goals conceded with only 4 conceded at home! Dalglish, Souness and McDermott were at their best. For me, our best ever team.

05 Jul 2014 12:18:21
Ed001, might be a stupid question, but do you work for LFC? I thought I saw something about you analysing youth teams at Liverpool?

{Ed001's Note - no mate, the sites are my job.}

Okay thanks. How come you moved to Dubai, doesn't that make communication harder? I mean take longer to get info or is everything spread by the computer?

{Ed001's Note - computers and phones are the main communication method, so it makes little difference. We decided to move the business out here because the savings in tax allow us to run the free competitions. We had some seed money saved to do something, and it was either this or pay it all in tax. This way, we can put money towards employing editors on a full time basis. In the UK, unless you use loopholes, you get taxed on profit made, which includes money saved in a bank that you intend to use to invest in the business. So you end up not being able to save or see large chunks get taken off you, even though the money would have been used to employ someone. I didn't like the idea of borrowing money, and I wasn't going to start employing someone without making sure that I had at least one year's wages for them saved, so that if it all went wrong, they had a year's work at least. So this seemed the best solution all round, especially as half the footballers on earth spend chunks of time out here!}

That makes sense. How does it feel so far? Do you miss your daughter etc? Assuming she didn't move along.
Hopefully youll be able to employ another editor soon as it would better the pages even more!

{Ed001's Note - that is the thing that I do miss! I absolutely love it out here, apart from only getting to see her for a couple of weeks here and there. I am hoping to convince her to move out here too. She does really love it when she visits, so I will keep trying.
Fingers crossed mate, we would like to employ someone full time to help Ed033 doing the upgrades as well. He has so much to do with all the upgrades, it is hard for him to get through it all. Every time he does get one thing crossed off his to do list, I add 3 more things we could improve on. That is not even counting all the ideas for games we want to build for the sites as well. Poor fella is getting worked to death!}

Any jobs going? Hahah.

{Ed001's Note - for an unpaid intern, yes ;o)

Edd001 great read! Can I ask if you are starting any businesss within the uk, is your profit taxed?
How come you didn't possibly locate to southern ireland, the business tax there is the cheapest in europe I believe'

{Ed001's Note - as far as I am aware it applies to all businesses that aren't classed as charitable or non-profit organisations.
There were a number of reasons, from weather (which is the main one) to knowing Dubai well having worked here in the past.}

05 Jul 2014 14:32:11
Ed001. I have been following this site for more than few years. If I could be of any help in the upgrades for this site on the technical side, let me know.

I am ready to do it out of sheer appreciation for Liverpool and you guys for keeping this site up.

Chaki

{Ed001's Note - are you are ok with us contacting you through the email address you used to register? If so, I will get in touch and see if Ed033 has anything we could use your help with.}

Haha let's be honest, the weather edd ;)
Good luck with it all mate

{Ed001's Note - that was the main thing, I have to say. Sitting here now, in 40c, looking over the lake, sun shining, birds singing, it was defo the right choice!}

Quailty, your just right, well for you mate! I have the scenery of two teenagers arguing right now about who borrows the car tonight! i'd rather be.listening to birds

Omg! jealousy strikes!

What responsibilities does the unpaid intern have and what kind of criteria should they meet to get the job?

Sure Ed001. Feel free to contact me on my registered mailid. I will be glad to help.

{Ed001's Note - thank you mate.}

05 Jul 2014 11:55:49
Hi Ed001. love this site followed it for years.

anyways this is my 1st ever post! You said below that Liverpool fc hasn't acheived our top 2 targets yet. who are they?

{Ed001's Note - I should have said three, and it is a wide forward, left back and centre back.}

05 Jul 2014 11:47:21
I just wanted to thank the 649 people who entered our free World Cup Correct Score competition on football-rumours, even though we only got it ready to launch extremely late! Good luck to all of you over the last few games.

We will be running the Correct Score competition again throughout the season, with monthly prizes and ones for the whole season. It will still be free to enter and the monthly winners will receive a £35 club shop voucher for their team, runners up a £15 voucher and 3rd will get a £5 voucher. At the end of the season, the overall winner will get a £50 voucher, 2nd a £25 voucher and 3rd a £10 voucher. Look out for it to be launched soon!

All our competition winners will soon have a badge to display on their profile and next to their name when they post. They are just the first in our forthcoming range of profile badges you can get for reaching goals on the sites.

We are also in the middle of producing a new game, which will run on our betting site (footballrumoursbets.co.uk), which is currently in alpha testing. The game is to be called 'Flat Out Racing' and will be about betting on live computer simulated horse races. It will be free to play and we will be running prize competitions on it, which will also be free to enter, as soon as it is ready to enter beta testing. Please look out for the beta test launch and participate in helping us, you never know you could win a prize for doing so!

There are lots more improvements and additions coming to the sites in the future, as we have a huge list of things we intend to bring out as soon as we can. From more competitions and games, to new features for your profiles and the sites.

Thank you to all of you who have registered an account with us, over 23000 of them have been created.

Congratulations Ed and thanks for creating a brilliant site. Very addictive.

{Ed001's Note - thank you mate.}

Ed001 thanks for continued efforts and the site just gets better and bigger
I don't often bother reading the papers so this is one of my only sources of LFC news
Love it
Thank you

{Ed001's Note - thank you mate. I have only mentioned a small fraction of the plans we have for the future.}

Its much appreciated eds i'm a big fan of the site and the comps are great cheers

05 Jul 2014 11:17:23
All's for all the posts the morning but is Yedlin the super-rapid RB who was playing for the USA?

Cheers

{Ed001's Note - yes.}

Thanks Ed. Apols for the poor message, damn predictive text.

{Ed001's Note - ah of course predictive text, I always blame that too, even though I don't have that option selected on my phone either ;o)

Hi Ed001 Can't wait to see the new ideas up and running for this site well done mate.Just one question please.This story about that young American RB getting a trial with us is it BS or genuine?
Cheer's all
BarryinLouth

{Ed001's Note - it was an offer made to him, difficulty is in knowing if the offer was a real one from the club, or if it was someone pretending to be from the club! There are a lot of people who will claim to represent a club that have no affiliation to them, just to get in with a player. When they get the player's agreement to a trial, they then go and try and arrange one with the club, while claiming to represent the player. I only know that he got an offer to have a trial with us, but I don't know how legitimate the offer is as I don't know who it was that actually made the offer. This is why I normally avoid commenting on trials and youth moves, as they are so murky.}

He does look good tho.I really have lost patience with GJ Ed.Thanks again.
BarryinLouth

{Ed001's Note - he certainly did in the World Cup, he was very impressive.}

Damn, busted by Ed again. Doh! Ha! Ha!

Would love to see Yedlin get a trial as if nothing else it would be a good experience for the kid. Can't see how that would work out though seeing as he's midseason right now?

05 Jul 2014 11:08:51
A change of focus from the Suarez posts. how cool will it be for Lambert to step out onto the Anfield turf this season! Good for him, I hope he does well as I've no doubt he will be trying his heart out. I bet he'll be beaming.

Really looking forward to seeing Lallana and Can as well. Plus all our youngsters in pre-season. Be great if some can step up this year.

Have a good weekend all.

05 Jul 2014 10:58:25
Yedlin looks great from what I've seen especially against Portugal, maybe a future replacement for Johnson? Hope his trail goes well!

05 Jul 2014 10:53:41
A question for any Ed if possible please. Forget specific numbers but do you think the expansion of Anfield plus the good world-wide marketing the club are doing will put the club into profit in the next few years? Plus any revenue from CL if we can continue to qualify for a few seasons.

Thank you

Bryan

{Ed001's Note - no, we have to pay for the expansion first, that will cost a significant amount. Once completed it should make a huge difference to us though.}

Thank you. The future is looking very promising and although not everyone agrees, I think FSG have done a fantastic job for us.

Agree with you Suffolk Red. What is clear is that FSG have a master plan somewhere and they're following it diligently. Young kids are continuously being brought in and looked at, the first team is being replenished with talent and funds within the possible, and the stadium redevelopment is finally becoming concrete. Miles ahead of the haphazard management style of the previous regime.

I'm positive too Suffolk. The doom mongers are always after-timers. I wrote positive comments and predicted a top 3 finish last year because I believed we could get more than 2 pts per game and BR was improving us. The usual suspects said FSG were penny punchers and BRs signings were poor. We ended up 2nd. This year I think it'll be tough to get top 4 because LS is a difference maker, improvement doesn't always go in straight lines, opponents will perhaps improve more and we have Europe to factor in. For LFC it's the playing twice a week in CL that will affect our PL points per game total most. But losing LS isn't a choice. It's an inevitability for all the reasons stated in recent weeks. We must make sure the drop back in PL terms is minor and build towards a permanent place in the top 3. The fact that six or seven teams can all finish top 4 actually helps us this season I think. I think we will make or miss out on top 4 by 3 pts.

05 Jul 2014 10:31:22
You said earlier that we haven't secured are 2 main priorities yet. Who are they?

{Ed002's Note - RTP.}

A centre half and a left back

A winger and a left back

05 Jul 2014 10:12:44
As I said the day after suarez sank his teeth into another human being, the bloke knew exactly what he was doing and by doing that he forced LFC into a corner to sell him at a much reduced price hence 60 odd mill instead of our expected 80 plus mill.
Suarez is a great player but his morels as a human being are quite appalling and what comes around goes around.
As for replacing the bloke there's not many out there so we will have to trust the owners an BR to do the right thing.
Great site eds thanks for your info.

05 Jul 2014 10:21:44
Don't be soft.

Keep your conspiracy theories to yourself mate.

Posts like this are so narrow minded and a complete joke! Anyone with at least one brain cell could see he risked his health to get fit fast to play for his country in the World Cup and was devastated he couldn't play for them again.

Please, please stop with these mindless posts!

I'm sick of hearing this rubbish

05 Jul 2014 13:11:37
two left feet,i totaly agree,the saurez lovers can't handle the truth

05 Jul 2014 09:54:59
It actually seems posters were content when the talk was €80m but now not happy with £63m.

To clarify, they are the exact same thing! Odd.

05 Jul 2014 10:09:01
The echo is reporting around 75 million so let's wait and see.

Surely €80m is even, not odd.

;-)

05 Jul 2014 11:11:37
Not if you add £1 Ken.

The Echo have been wrong on one too many occasions for me to trust anything they say.

Well what I am reading over here is barca paying full amount of so called release clause, between 70 and 80 english pounds, all the major papers websites going with that but yesterday afternoon they were saying 60 million plus sanchez [ I would be delighted with that ] . I think the only ones that will know will be john henry ian ayre and barca counterparts. the press need to get hits and sell newspapers so don't get sucked in by the shi. talkers

05 Jul 2014 09:22:44
Not for the eds as it money related but just an observation.

If true Suarez will go for a "knock down" price of a mere £63m and not the £80 -£85m some of us were expecting due to his recent incident. However surely Barcas own looming transfer ban would or should have redressed the balance in valuation. Yes he's a little fecker but if you don't buy him now then your unlikely to be able to going forward? So the price remains the same.£80m

I understand in this instance Suarez has put us in this situation but we always appear to be left wanting when negotiating players in and out of our club.

The figures you quote are in the wrong currency exchange them into euros & you'll see the figures match up

05 Jul 2014 10:16:25
No they aren't . €63 is less than £50m (less than David Luiz reported fee).

I expected Suarez actual value (bite aside) to be £80 (€100m) plus

{Ed002's Note - The demonstration of why we need to avoid discussing money continues.}

Keeping him may have cost us additional sponsership money or loss of sponsers / ability to attract new sponsors.

Also add the next incident being a possible 2 year ban - then I can understand why the fee is what it is.

Who knows he may never have a season like he did last season.

05 Jul 2014 10:54:31
I thought Ed002 had made it extremely clear on numerous occasions. Barca met the termination clause figure to buy Suarez. In that case there is nothing LFC could do about the transfer. €80m (£63m) seems like the right amount to me. It also doesn't take into account the additional costs like agent's fees and taxes.

The joke is from that supposed £63m we still have to pay Suarez a loyalty fee. which is x% of the fee.

05 Jul 2014 11:45:21
Ed002 this is why I said not for the Eds!

My point is Suarez fee appears reduced due to his wrongdoing and ban however we don't seem to be fully utilising Barcas wrongdoing and upcoming ban.

Its a basic supply and demand rule in my opinion.

Leverage must work both ways and my observation is that I feel it always used against us in our transfer activity.

Hoola you make a very good point, thank you.

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool are trying to rid themselves of a player who will be banned for two years next time he bites someone, and banned for life if he ever has another race-related incident. The expectations of the Liverpool fans were way beyond what was ever going to happen. I have made this clear repeatedly.}

05 Jul 2014 09:17:13
Ed001 that comment could have come STRAIGHT from Ed002's top draw! (Where I am told from a very reliable source she also keeps her frilly knicker's)

CLASSIC.

I'd take €40 M and Sanchez and if he did not want to come would try and slip Tello into the arangement.

Tello, IMO would thrive under BR and would, in time, become an Anfield great.

vrcomp
Y.N.W.A.

05 Jul 2014 09:31:02
I would avoid Tello. Nothing special and we already have a better player than him coming through in Jordon Ibe.

It is 75 million Euros for Suarez and Sanchez is valued at 40 million Euros. So, if he is included, it will have to be Sanchez + 35 million Euros.

Al this tello talk. the guy has played like 5 times for barca in 2 years. deleufeu is seen as a better talent, hence why they want to keep him there for next season. and he wasn't all that great . i'm sure barca would love to give us 60 mil and tello

05 Jul 2014 09:13:55
After watching him in the world cup, would love to see
James Rodríguez in a Liverpool shirt.
He seems to have everything about his game.
Only snag is I think he would cost a fortune.

A few other snags:
Why would he leave tax haven in Monaco?
If he was available the top European clubs Barca, Madrid and Munich would be in for him.
Man City/Chelsea/PSG would all outbid us.
We can't afford his wages.
He can literally pick his destination and there is absolutely no evidence he wants to come to LFC.

{Ed002's Note - There is interest in him from elsewhere, not Liverpool.}

What a good player though. He seems an honest and hard working player too which is refreshing.

Whoever signs him will be very happy I'm sure.

05 Jul 2014 09:06:27
If reports are true that we have agreed 63 million for Suarez then Ian Ayre should seriously consider his position. We hold all the aces of a 5 year contract. Barca should have been told £80 million (or buy out clause) or Luis stays where he is. I don't get all this 'we have to sell him because of the bite' stuff. So we have to get rid because he's a disgrace but it's ok for anyone else to have him. I don't think so! I'll be gutted to see him go as we can't get any better unless we sign Messi. If he goes on the cheap as well it will be unbearable.

05 Jul 2014 09:32:04
You are right that you don't get it at all.

Maybe the Sponsors, management have had enough of his antics.
For the great player he is he is like a time bomb ready to go off.

Why don't we all wait to see what actually transpires before calling for Aire's head. I am sure he will have done his best for the club.

I agree with heighway patrol this is ridiculous suarez will be a big loss, we won't even get fourth place without him if we don't sign a very good replacement

05 Jul 2014 08:42:21
I don't care what the fee was for Suarez. He was a fantastic player for us and we have made a huge profit on him. A couple of years ago we were on the brink of bankruptcy and a massive thank you to FSG for the work that they are doing. Forget all of these stellar names that people want and let's get realistic. The eds have constantly told us that we are losing 1 million per week. Fsg are trying to improve that position so do not expect us to compete with man city, Chelsea and even man united. We are nowhere near those clubs as regarding spending power. The London clubs will always have an advantage due to top players preferring London. I am happy with the way things are going and will continue to support any and every player who wears the red shirt and gives 100% for the team. I have seen so many superb players come and go over the years. Life without Suarez will continue to go on. Either support the club realistically or go somewhere else. We have not and never will be a one man team. I don't want us to overspend and I don't want us to be a rich mans toy. I am a proud Liverpool fan and if we win a trophy, we will win it as a team. That's what a Liverpool fan is. Part of a team. It would be nice to have a team of galacticos and win every game. It's nicer when you win with a team of players that no one rates. So from me, thank you mr Henry and co. keep up the good work. We have history and we will continue to make history the way Shanks wanted. Hard work, loyalty and working as a team, from the owners right the way down. Don't be disappointed if we don't go and spend loads of money on players who don't want to come. Let's support the ones we have and the ones who want to come.

Well said

Best post I have seen in a while, suarez who in a year or two .

05 Jul 2014 08:27:23
Hi Ed

Not posted for a while just waiting fot inevitable to happen with a certain Suarez. As I am an old git I remember as a little Kid when a certain Kevin Keegan announced he was leaving, What were we going to do without him? what was Bob Paisley doing? we were doomed, how could he do it to the club. Then we bought a nobody from Celtic of all places, a Kenny Dalglish!, who the **** is he we all said, the rest is history as the saying goes.
Rush left, Oh my god I said, and Aldridge steps in, Then a young Kid called Fowler turns up, who the **** is he, he is only 17 for ****s sake, G.O.D, then a certain Owen takes over.
Then along comes the Kid from Spain, he is the one I said, he loves the club, he will be a legend, he is only 24 and will be here for years to come I said, then, not again I said!
Then old big teeth steps in, scores in his first game but still I said I would rather the Kid from Spain and miss him and hopes he fails at Chelski. Then the cannibal racially abuses Evra, no I said, Evra is Lying old cannibal wouldn't say that, injustice I cry. Then the cannibal cries to leave, no it can't be true, it must be the papers I say. Then he bites Ivanisovic, that's strange I say why would he do that, no provercation, then I am reminded why he left Ajax. Was he vying for a move? surely not, he loves the club! Hey Champions League, I can't wait to play at Anfield the man says, I am surely staying at Liverpool now he says. Great I say let's watch the world cup and relax. OMG my missus says he has done it again! Then Barcelona are on the scene, and again I am reminded of the previous incidents, he has done it again for a move! surely not! Oh yes.
Liverpool are a club that breeds forwards so I am almost glad to see Suarez go, as Ed 2 says he hs dragged the name of the club down, for all the good he has done he has equally dragged the good name of the club down and had one of the most influential people at the club sacked in the process.

Lets move on and let him go and chuckle to ourselves when he once again wants a move from Barcelona and sinks his teeth into another forward.

I am sure the next striker we have will become a legend in his own right so support the club nor the player.

Evered

PS Ed002 was right all along and we were all just in denial, its a case of the emperors new clothes.

Evered

Absolutley loved reading this post, fantastic .

All those stellar names since Aldo and none of them have won any of the big trophies (premier league and Champions league)

We won the champions league with players like Sinama-Pongolle, Luis Garcia and Cisse up front.

It says to me it's not about replacing individuals, it's about improving the team.

Spot on Ken.

And don't forget LS would have missed a quarter of the PL season.

Sturridge has 35 goals in 49 games for Liverpool which is a better strike rate than LS.

05 Jul 2014 08:26:04
So Suarez going for 59m at current exchange rates and sanchez would be 31m at the same rates. Plus all the other things on top that Ed002 points out. We've already agreed to pay 39m plus all those things again & have apparently bid 18m for lovren which would take us to 57m plus those things which would exceed the Suarez money. We have a few odd bods to sell & are losing 1m a week. I think 2 more signings maximum not including lovren. Bertrand & shaqiri probably being the two. Amateur maths & guess work + exchange rates using the eds figures

80m euros for LS, Sanchez won't be part of any agreement. We've spent roughly what we wanted to in net spend (35-40m) so we have £63m plus sales (likely to be 20-30m). That's more than 2 more players. We have to get top players in while we have CL. There'll be at least four more signings, possibly five depending on a couple of possible departures.

05 Jul 2014 08:15:53
I know that he has wanted a transfer for a while but I cannot fault his commitment levels during last season as he always gave us 100%. Despite all of the controversies that he created he has also been a joy to watch on the ball and some of his goals have been amazing. However much the actual figure is that we receive for Luis Suarez it can not replace him with a footballer anywhere near his level but at the end of the day life moves on. I wish LS the best of luck with his career and thank him for his goals in a red shirt.
YNWA
Now that the Luis Suarez chapter in LFC history has more or less drawn to a close it is time to focus on wisely investing the money received on adding quality to our squad.

Great post mate. Thanks Luis for helping drag us from nothingness back into the champions league. Without a doubt the most talented footballer Liverpool have signed in the last 20 years

05 Jul 2014 03:23:08
hi eds
ive sent in 3 posts over the last two days and haven't seen one posted anywhere.
big follower of the site!
YNWA

{Ed001's Note - if you've looked on all the pages, then try the other Liverpool site as the posts could have been sent over there. If not, then we probably haven't received them. Now we send repeat posts over to the other site, the only things deleted are abuse or idiocy.}

There's a post from you over on the other site from yesterday Benny.
www.Liverpool-banter.co.uk

04 Jul 2014 23:48:15
Hi Eds.
Just wondering where, if any, is the interest is in Skrtel and Agger.
Also for Ed001 where do you see Reina beginning next season in a Liverpool shirt or elsewhere? If he stays would you prefer to see him or Mignolet?
Jack!

{Ed001's Note - Napoli are keen on either/or of them. I expect Reina to leave somewhere, his wages are just too high to sit on the bench. There is no contest these days, Pepe's head and heart are just not in it, he has gone from one of the best keepers in the world to an accident waiting to happen.}

Cheers Ed.
Do you feel there is the possibility of both being moved on and Illori being moved to the first team squad?
Disappointing as regards Reina but that is how he looked before he left. Never checked up on him at Napoli last year.
Thanks
Jack!

{Ed001's Note - both are available, but I doubt both will move on, though Ilori is likely to get his chance in preseason. Then it will be down to him.}