Liverpool Banter Archive July 05 2015

 

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05 Jul 2015 22:16:52
Eds, what's the story with joao teixeira? He had a good loan at Brighton by all accounts. Appreciate he had a bad injury but surely he's a other one like Ibe who could fill the void of Sterling? There was a lot of hype in the academy at one point.

Thanks for your replies.

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{Ed030's Note - Most likely go out on loan. }

05 Jul 2015 22:13:04
Hi eds, few questions
1. Do you think any money which has been spent so far (including the potential money to be spent on Benteke) has been done with the Sterling sale in mind to balance the books or do you think the Sterling money will be fully reinvested in a replacement(s)?

2. I understand a striker is our primary target right now but if we did get our man, what position do you think we'd be looking at reinforcing next?

3. If we were to get a replacement for Sterling do you know of any players we've been looking at? I've seen links to Cheryshev and Pedro so far.

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{Ed030's Note - 1) It only causes trouble when we talk about money. 2) I woud have to get my mystic egg out to answer that one, sorry. 3) Try the search function. }

06 Jul 2015 05:14:16
Sterling has already been replaced.

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06 Jul 2015 09:13:11
Skeptical on the central midfielder position, If Allen gets a new contract then another midfielder would be hard to come in.

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05 Jul 2015 21:45:46
Has there ever been a player we've been heavily linked with that has generated as much constant interest on this forum as Benteke and also one that has divided opinion as much.

It's getting really boring to read the same questions and Christ knows what it must be like for the Eds to read the same questions time after time.

As we've been told Benteke is the striker that Rogers wants and it's now just a case of agreeing the deal be it cash or more likely cash & a player/ players.

More interesting for me is the Sterling departure and rumour of another bid going in this week.

Eds how do you see Sterling developing if he goes to City with the additional pressure on him, will he play wide or just behind Aguero and do u see him getting the Torres treatment when he returns to Anfield?

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{Ed030's Note - I have no idea on how he will be treated if he leaves then comes back to Anfield, Sterling is a good player and I expect he will show that at City, although I do not agree with his actions I hope he fulfills his potential. I suspect should he join City he will be played out wide, but I am just speculating. }

06 Jul 2015 00:17:59
Yes, Sturridge.

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06 Jul 2015 00:28:09
Questions about Sterling aren't any better than those regarding Benteke. I can't wait for Benteke to move to another club, and for Sterling to move on. The fact that we're even concerned about these two average players amazes me.

Red Rum

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06 Jul 2015 09:13:55
Red rum.

They are not average players at all.

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06 Jul 2015 11:12:52
You shouldve been here through the suarez saga

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06 Jul 2015 11:29:11
It depends what you consider average. What I should have said is, why concern ourselves with a player that has totally disrespected the club? A player who has been offered a very good contract and playing time. The boy is just potential, but has progressed beyond his years. He could well go on to become world class, and I have always said he will, but he's no Suarez on the pitch and not worth the hassle. Get rid and move on.

As for Benteke, if he signs I will back him, but he's not suited to how Liverpool play. Look at Balotelli, Lambert, Carroll, etc. They aren't bad players but they didn't work out for a reason. Benteke will be the same in my opinion, and he's definitely not worth the rumoured fee that's going around.

Red Rum

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05 Jul 2015 21:40:50
Hi ed(s)

Great work on this site

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{Ed030's Note - Sorry mate, Not something we're interested in getting into. }

05 Jul 2015 22:29:10
Thanks ed I understand

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05 Jul 2015 21:09:14
The thing that worries me about the Benteke deal is not his ability and how he'd fit in but the fee that will be on his shoulders. If we meet the buy-out clause, we will have paid £32.5m for a player who may get dropped when Sturridge returns from injury(unless we are to play two up top). Also, if he turned out to be a flop, I can see FSG being more reluctant to spend big money in the future for one player. £32.5m is a heck of a lot of money and if we are willing to spend that much then we need to think long and hard about whether or not to go for it. It's a big risk to take on him and if it works out then that's fantastic but if he doesn't then it'd be terrible news for the club financially as we would have blown a huge some of money and we'd have the same problem as this in not scoring enough goals(unless we change our ways somehow)and if we don't score enough goals, we won't reach the champions league meaning that we will be hit hugely as we would miss out on lots of prize money. Fingers crossed the club does the right thing!

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05 Jul 2015 21:31:20
I don't think Benteke would happily take a place on the bench regardless of Sturridge. We are playing two up top and quite a lot of other expensive players would be on the bench instead.
If the club has / had that kids sum to blow on one striker I would have looked around whole Europe trying hard to convince someone to join us who would fit in directly.

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05 Jul 2015 21:36:31
I think the guy is a monster. We've got bags of creativity in the team and have added to that with Firmino. At times we were trying to walk it into the net last year because that was the only option.

Coutinho, Lallana, Ibe and Firmino will have a new outlet. Crosses for the big fella to get his nut onto, balls played into somebody that can hold it up and bring in runners. That doesn't mean we need to do that all the time. But we give their defence another threat to think about which will open up gaps elsewhere.

I think he might just end up being awesome.

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05 Jul 2015 23:57:07
Europe, considering the sums of money BR is continually allowed to spend we will have expensive players sitting on the bench regardless of Benteke arriving or not.
We also tried your tactic of looking all summer last year for a striker to fit in and BR dithered and messed around and we ended up panic buying Balo, I for one am glad that's not happening again.

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06 Jul 2015 00:27:49
Have to agree with 'User', i think the big guy could be just the ticket and anyway,who else is out there ?

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06 Jul 2015 06:57:59
Origi?

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06 Jul 2015 11:20:59
Benteke has actually grown on me tbh, at the beginning of these rumours i was praying they weren't true but after watching enough youtube videos (i know) he actually looks like a solid player albeit a tad lazy however tends to always be in decent positions for a header and if you get it to his feet can work some space for a shot

I need to watch a few full matches from his time at villa to decide properly but i honestly don't think he will flop at all and will rarely be stuck on the bench, a lot of people are convinced he is a plan b as well which i disagree with.

With good management our team will be immense next season but that's what i'm afraid about

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05 Jul 2015 20:00:04
Ed

Do you know anything about this Elijah Dixon Bonner lad that has signed?

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{Ed001's Note - just that he is highly rated by Arsenal and they are gutted to lose him. Never seen the lad play though personally.}

05 Jul 2015 20:34:26
What age group is he?

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{Ed001's Note - he is 16 I think.}

05 Jul 2015 21:36:04
FSG were keen to sign Elijah - they hope to make a prophet out of him.

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05 Jul 2015 20:49:41
Any idea why he didn't want to stay with Arsenal?

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{Ed001's Note - no sorry.}

05 Jul 2015 21:12:01
Okay thanks! We seem to be signing a lot of players for our academy this summer though. Surely we don't usually bring this many in!?

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{Ed001's Note - yes, but usually they are just local lads, so no one reports on it.}

06 Jul 2015 06:26:34
Do we know why he chose to leave Arsenal ed?

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{Ed002's Note - See above.}

06 Jul 2015 09:08:37
No doubt his missus or "shawty" as the hip people say it, wanted to live in Liverpool.

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05 Jul 2015 19:56:59
Hi eds.

Have we actually appointed sean o ' discol as our AM yet?

If not do you have any more news.

Thanks
tom

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{Ed001's Note - I just think the club are slow at announcing things mate, as far as I am aware nothing has changed.}

06 Jul 2015 00:25:16
He just negotiated his exit from England's U19 and will be announced tomorrow.

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05 Jul 2015 21:06:03
So does that mean he's in mate? Think it will be a good appointment.

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05 Jul 2015 19:35:04
Ed, any idea why Ilori wasn't a consistent starter for Bordeaux (Nor Granada if I remember correctly)Because from what I saw (Admittedly only a couple games from each loan spell) he was one of their better defenders.

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{Ed001's Note - injuries.}

05 Jul 2015 18:16:11
Seems to be a bit of a stumbling block over the money villa want for benteke, do you think a compromise will be made? Thanks

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{Ed002's Note - I really don't know.}

05 Jul 2015 19:41:57
Yes, hearing a lot of chatter today that talks with Villa over transfer fee have been shelved.

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05 Jul 2015 20:11:19
32 million ain't a small sum. They would check everything before making the right move.

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05 Jul 2015 21:27:32
Eg are you Harry?

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05 Jul 2015 22:30:15
You think it too Molby?

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05 Jul 2015 21:49:51
Molby

Well not mate.

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05 Jul 2015 23:41:18
Thought exactly the same, the 'would' instead of should, the way he addresses posters and EG's generally pretty ridiculous posts today do point to only one person ;)

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05 Jul 2015 17:37:10
As I understand no bid has been made, but do you know of an interest from ourselves ED002?

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{Ed002's Note - I have no way of knowing - he is not a player the club has watched and he is not a player the club has approached Newcastle about. As far as I know there is nothing from his agent either.}

05 Jul 2015 15:56:19
What is all this craziness about Sissoko being targetted Eds??!!

The express and others saying we are in pole position. Have you heard anything or it is likely nonsense?

Personally hope this is mere rumour

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{Ed002's Note - Newcastle has said they have had no enquiries or offers for Moussa Sissoko at this time.}

05 Jul 2015 16:59:46
Everything is there in that guys locker to a degree . Can be brilliant on he's day . I wouldn't say no to him . Versatile . Box to box , on the right or sitting in front of the back 4 . Just needs to be a bit more consistent .

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05 Jul 2015 17:33:27
I think we have enough midfielders

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05 Jul 2015 17:44:46
More midfielders is the answer for everything in this transfer window

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05 Jul 2015 19:43:10
We're going for a flat back 1, a false 9 and 9 midfield warriors!

We go again!

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05 Jul 2015 19:50:38
I'd be surprised if we signed another attacking midfielder. We have Coutinho, Firmino, Milner, Ibe, Markovic. What we need is an Alonso type player.

Red Rum

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05 Jul 2015 19:57:46
Headless chicken. Don't rate him in centre mid. He's literally a poor mans Yaya Toure. Incredibly powerful, fast, wicked shot and fairly good vision. No defensive awareness, lazy in tracking back, tries too hard to do something spectacular etc.

It's just Yaya lite. I don't see the point. He's not even young anymore. Think he will improve but is he really what we need? He'd have been a good signing if we hadn't already got Milner. Milner is better anyway though by quite a long way.

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05 Jul 2015 20:12:36
Agree with red rum.
We need an Alonso type. Someone who is positionally astute and also would start the attack by himself.

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{Ed030's Note - I think that was the idea with moving for Kovacic. }

05 Jul 2015 20:19:49
Small fish in a goldfish bowl, really. We already have a mid just like him in Can so no thanks!

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05 Jul 2015 20:24:59
Ed30,

Yes mate.I am aware of the player who was played as a deep lying role at inter. Scored 5 and had some assist and that's a big stat for someone who plays way deep.

He is a much better version of Wilshere.

I don't understand y people were abusing the club and BR for looking at the player.

That's the first real target I liked by the club.

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{Ed030's Note - I liked the signing of Firmino, Kovacic would help improve the team too. }

05 Jul 2015 20:39:41
Has a bit of presence about him but disappears from games.

Sort of a more anonymous Ramires.

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05 Jul 2015 20:47:22
Boom.

We need a player in that mould very bad, we ain't got one with us.

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05 Jul 2015 21:35:49
You're not wrong Red Rum but in truth, everyone needs "an Alonso type player". Unfortunate they're few and far between

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05 Jul 2015 21:54:09
Totally agree with puzzled red,you could count on the fingers of 1 hand how Many Alonsos there are out there ,and none of them would be in his league 4/5 years ago,now I'm afraid he 'll be going down hill fast,shame fav player of mine big time

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05 Jul 2015 23:52:56
EMS mate I love to read your posts but sometimes you confuse me.
'Headless chicken. Don't rate him in centre mid. He's literally a poor mans Yaya Toure.'
'No defensive awareness, lazy in tracking back, tries too hard to do something spectacular etc.'
And you end with saying he would have been a good signing but for Milner. What exactly would have been good if all of this is so bad?

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06 Jul 2015 04:52:44
Kovacic could be world class in a couple of seasons - think it would be a quality signing - however appears unlikely at the moment.

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05 Jul 2015 15:34:54
Eds,I know you've said where there,s interest in our players, which I'm extremely grateful, I just want to know has any bids been placed for any of them? Was just reading that Alberto could be going to Deportivo on loan and Borini to Lazio, on a year long loan to buy.
Thanks in advance.
Ollivander.

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{Ed002's Note - Aspas, Borini and Sterling - it has all been dealt with.}

05 Jul 2015 16:47:16
Thanks Ed002

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05 Jul 2015 15:33:35
Is there any truth that huiguain wants to join us from Napoli

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05 Jul 2015 15:22:41
read mario balo father as died today rip

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05 Jul 2015 18:19:38
His adoptive father?

YNWA Mario

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05 Jul 2015 19:06:35
Why does it matter Ron?

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05 Jul 2015 13:04:01
ED001,
The Shankly link below. Coincidentally, I was reading about the man last night and came across something that I never knew, to be honest.
Was the Shankly Statue outside of the Kop paid for by Carlsberg ?
I'd always assumed it was the club, but this article said otherwise, and that they released a slogan to go with it "Probably the best manager ever" or some such corporate tat.
That's not right is it ?

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{Ed001's Note - they did pay for it, I remember it well, but here is an article regarding it: http://www.shankly.com/Article/2408 that also mentions how Carlsberg paid for it.}

05 Jul 2015 15:24:00
Thanks. I know that site well but somehow missed that line.
Gutted about the Carlsberg thing.
He didn't even drink did he !?
Shoddy.

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{Ed001's Note - shame the club didn't do it, but there you go.}

05 Jul 2015 15:49:40
Is right.

Such a heartfelt gesture would go a long way, only not from Liverpool Football Club.

It puts everything in to perspective in comparison to the money spent on transfers and wages.

A very sad world.

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05 Jul 2015 19:08:00
Correct Davey😠

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05 Jul 2015 13:17:57
Italian sources suggesting that Borini is keen on a move to Lazio and the only thing left to agree is a deal with Liverpool. The fee looks like it will be around €7m. Such a huge loss from the £14m that we were offered last summer!

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05 Jul 2015 13:36:51
I would have kept him for that amount. How is Ings a better player than Borini, I never understand. BR has a habit of wasting money.

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05 Jul 2015 13:42:06
Only ourselves to blame for this one. If we had afforded him some playing time(which shouldn't have been out of the question given his commitment to try and make it here plus our dearth of goals) he would have maintained a reasonable market value. Sadly we didnt.

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05 Jul 2015 14:09:21
He wouldn't leave last year, I don't see how that is Rodgers fault

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05 Jul 2015 14:51:31
Let's face it we're lucky to even receive a fee. He's average and I can't believe we bought him in the first place (could say the same with a lot of BR's signings) I'd snap their hands off

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05 Jul 2015 15:00:24
Him not leaving isn't Rodgers fault and let's not forget its BR who brought him to the club. Its the fact he basically refused to give the lad a chance after rejecting bigger money because he wanted to fight for his place. It is Rodgers fault his value is now so low. Can't you see this?

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05 Jul 2015 15:20:25
If he'd accepted the offer from Sunderland we'd have made a profit on him.

I believe the fee we paid was more like £10m and we haven't sold him yet. Can't see Liverpool accepting less than 10m euros and presumably we've had some loan fee for him along the way.

A shame it didn't work out as I like the lad but hardly a financial disaster of Aquilani, Cole, Downing or Carroll proportions.

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05 Jul 2015 15:52:19
His only problem is by trying TOO hard.

It's like any sport - sports people need to relax and it seems the burden of Liverpool Football Club does not enable that on some players.

I wish he could stay and I reckon he will shine at another club.

Shame.

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05 Jul 2015 17:40:33
He was told he had no future at the club and Liverpool could have made a profit on him but he chose to stay anyway.

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05 Jul 2015 18:22:11
Not good enough but great attitude.
Good luck Fabio

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05 Jul 2015 19:38:39
Yeah gmil, curse him for turning down a big pay rise elsewhere to try and fight for his place at a club he clearly wanted to play for under a manager that paid a substantial amount to bring him here. Glad to be rid of such a stinking attitude from the club, thank god a lot of the rest of our players don't show the same determination and commitment.

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05 Jul 2015 20:32:33
He was told he wasn't wanted, so why stay I'm not questioning his attitude, Rodgers was going to sell him for a profit, but you choose to blame him for it

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06 Jul 2015 00:01:28
Once again gmil i'm not blaming Rodgers for the fact he didn't leave? Has he ever sold any player he has bought for a profit at LFC? What he is being blamed for is the fact that nobody would dream of paying anywhere near that for Borini this summer because he hasn't been seen on a football pitch in about a year. But I suppose that's Fabios fault. Why stay? Why waste money on a player if you are never going to use him is a better question.

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05 Jul 2015 13:04:44
Eds if hypothetically ManC pays Liverpool 30 million £ and give us Stevan Jovetic for sterling then how much should Liverpool has to pay to QPR?

Thanks.

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{Ed002's Note - Whatever the transfer is valued at divided by 5. This is not an opportunity for Liverpool to cheat another side out of money.}

05 Jul 2015 15:14:10
This question has been asked at least half a dozen times. I'm Surprised eds even answered it. Could have just searched for it by typing in QPR or cheat!

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05 Jul 2015 12:42:01
Hi eds. not wrote in a very long time. just been reading what everyone else writes. my questions - are we after Dzeko as part of the sterling deal ?? And if we carry on spending won't we go over budget on the financial fair play. which means a hefty final or even a transfer ban.

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{Ed002's Note - No. I have explained which striker Liverpool want.}

05 Jul 2015 13:10:43
Why on earth would you want Dzeko? I genuinely think some people are happy with our rivals' second string players. He's by no means a bad player but is nowhere near the level we should be aiming for.

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05 Jul 2015 13:44:26
HX Red

I am sorry mate, but which level? Like BR claiming the world class Origi or the free signing from a relegated Burnley?
We should have never both the two in the first place and y do you need 5 strikers?

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05 Jul 2015 13:58:39
European glory, are you just trolling today? Youve mentioned further down the page you'd like Soldado? And now your whining about Origi and Ings? Which level yourself mate.

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05 Jul 2015 14:11:49
I think Ings/Origi are more for the future rather than the immediate first team and it's clear we need a top quality partner/competition for Sturridge for this season. Personally i just don't see Dzeko having the quality to be that player, i'd much rather we took the full payment from City rather than take the players they're happy to sell.

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05 Jul 2015 14:38:38
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Excuse me mate. The reason I mentioned Soldado was due Liverpool looking at Llorente in case Benteke deal falls through. All the three are similar type of players and we are shelling a huge money on a pure gamble in Benteke.
I am not sure how's our players all of a sudden become world class if Dzeko is a second stringe average player?
We have already bought 2 strikers and I can't see a game changer in neither of the two.

Like us wanting to replace Lambert and Borini this summer we would be a very similar position next summer wanting both Origi and sings out.

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05 Jul 2015 15:03:14
Soldado is not a similar type of player to Benteke or Llorente.
Soldado is a proven failure in the Premier League how would he not represent a gamble?
Why don't you give Origi and Ings a chance to prove themselves before you deem them not good enough?

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05 Jul 2015 16:12:31
European Glory how can you suggest Soldado and say Benteke would be a gamble?? Obviously Benteke would cost more but he would for a reason. IMO Soldado has proved he can't hit the back end of a barn from 18 yards in a decent spurs side yet Benteke has banged in goals in a very poor villa side. Personally my opinion is Benteke would be a great signing. A lot of people are saying he needs the ball lumped in to the box but that is how villa played his hold up play is fantastic and we would have a lot of pace and trickery behind him he can shoot with power from nothing and could fit very well. He's no slouch either. We need better strikers. What we have for the most part are just not good enough regardless as to whether or not Rodgers played to there potential or not.

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05 Jul 2015 16:50:17
Let's cut this crap about a player from a mid table would come and double the digits with Liverpool.
We did took a gamble on Lambert and Lallana last season with the same excuse.
If they could score 10 for Southampton they would score 20 with better players around.

The fact is unless you don't play a players strength they ain't contributing. Simple.

This has nothing to do with the players ability. Benteke would score if you know how to play him and I am sorry but we don't play his way at all.

Now the real reason BR after him is chasing his past goal scoring records and expecting him to bail him out.

It's mad assuming there is some sort of plan on buying Benteke.

How does it make sense to buy Benteke in the same window as Firmino?

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05 Jul 2015 16:53:01
Back.

You not getting point at all. I repeat both of the players ain't bad. But can I say both weren't actually needed.
Given us buying Benteke and Sturridge comes back after injury Both are starting without a doubt and where would you see the young lads getting a game?
Ings is 22 and certainly not coming to rest on the bench.

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05 Jul 2015 19:31:22
I agree that we are overloaded in forward areas Europe but what happens if one of our first choice strikers was injured? We need to have options. What if they are having a poor game and we need to make a change up there?
Also you can't say 'I repeat' and follow it with a statement you have never said before? You belittled both in your first comment and in your second mentioned how we would be wanting them out next summer.
I'm not sure you're getting your own point.

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05 Jul 2015 20:16:27
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Well I am showing you the future mate. Mark my words exactly into 12 months all the above would have their own transfer list of players to be shipped out and Ings and Origi would be top most ( not because they are poor, just because they wouldn't contribute just like lambert or borini )

This cycle has been ongoing from years and will continue.

Can I say we need three players in the summer.

A top class Striker

A top class Gk

A top class midfielder ( DM / DLP )

Unfortunately after bringing in more than 6 players we we still short on the three positions.

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05 Jul 2015 23:45:27
You can't say Lambert and Borini didn't contribute when they were never given the chance to contribute though? Thank you for showing me the future though, if only we had followed your wisdom and signed Soldado.

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05 Jul 2015 12:33:59
Hi Eds,

Saw one of the most depressing videos on Facebook today - Stevie G addressing the LA Galaxy fans during his unveiling.

I know there had been rumour of a potential loan back to Liverpool during their off season, but do you see this happening?

Cheers,

Jake

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05 Jul 2015 13:42:59
Sentimentality aside Snitty, do you really see him offering anything?

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05 Jul 2015 16:32:14
Leave SG in the past wer he belongs he done us proud but let it go now ffs!!!

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05 Jul 2015 11:59:34
Eds do you think the interest in Allan Rodrigues De Souza is a cheap alternative to Mateo Kovacic?

I see a lot of media outlets suggesting he is an attacking midfielder (probably because he is Brazilian) but I've spent all morning researching him and he is so clearly a more deeper player. Think of him as a left footed Henderson. Very strong, excellent work rate, great at bursting forward, very willing to track back, tough in the tackle, great set piece delivery, good vision, reads danger well.

I really like the sound of him. At 18 years old you could argue he is ready for first team football. Not as a regular, but as a sokid back up to Emre Can. Milner and Henderson likely to compete for the position next to Can/Allan.

I'm not sure why we'd sign somebody for £500k just to put them into an academy already over flowing with midfielders.

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{Ed002's Note - He would simply be for the academy - certainly not for the first team and he would never get a work permit right away.}

05 Jul 2015 12:27:55
Cheers Ed002. I'd be worried if he was going to march straight into the first team anyway. Kick in the teeth to the likes of Rossiter.

However if he is just for the academy then imo it's a pointless signing; particularly when you consider the work permit problems.

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05 Jul 2015 13:46:09
Or he could be potentially signed and loaned to another club in Europe without having to worry about work permits. He could play there for a year or two and depending on his development be made a part of the squad or moved on for a profit. This would leave nobodys teeth kicked and make it a potentially worthwhile signing.
If he turns into a decent player fans will be bleating on about how we could have signed him for pocket change.

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05 Jul 2015 14:22:55
I'd be very happy for Rossiter, Williams to get game time ahead of another midfield signing. Mind you El Nose seems intent on flogging Lucas

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05 Jul 2015 20:36:26
BR has no confidence in our youth and will never give them a fair chance to prove themselves except when forced or ordered to and this signing is the umpteenth example of that severe lack of leadership and courage.

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05 Jul 2015 11:58:58
hi Ed what's the latest on benteke ? some papers are now saying the deal looks unlikely . what's your opinion on whether the deal will be done or not ?

Thanks.

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{Ed002's Note - The situation remains the same.}

05 Jul 2015 11:58:40
Any news on signing a new keeper , or is Rodgers sticking with the calamitous mignolet ? Would have liked to have seen us go for begovic, krul or schmeichel

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{Ed002's Note - Liverpool has a new goalkeeper. Bogdan.}

05 Jul 2015 13:08:45
None of those goalkeepers are a significant improvement on Migs.

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05 Jul 2015 13:47:51
Agree Boom except for Begovic I do feel he would be an upgrade. Had we not gone for Bogdan and focused on a new no.1 who would you have liked us to sign Boom?

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05 Jul 2015 15:33:25
I'd have gone for Cech but admit there was little chance of getting him this summer without CL and his family are settled in London I guess.

Lloris would be great but little to no chance of him either.

Don't know enough about any of the German keepers that get mentioned to know whether any of them would be suitable or gettable.

I thought Rob Green did well last season (loads of practice, mind) and he would have been more likely to push Migs than Bogdan I thought. But his wages, age and fee = FSG non starter.

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05 Jul 2015 16:58:13
I would have liked to see interest in Bernd Leno or Loris Karius TBH Bogdan seems an emergency 3rd choice for me, he isn't going to push Migs

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05 Jul 2015 19:24:59
Begovic would have been just as achievable as Rob Green Boom and a much better goalkeeper.

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05 Jul 2015 11:50:24
Eds,
Lots of people really rate and would love to see Medel in the team and after Copa America his stock keeps rising. With BR looking to move on Lucas why are we not looking to recruit such a great DM like Medel.

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{Ed002's Note - There are lots of players Liverpool are not trying to buy.}

05 Jul 2015 12:40:46
Not sure I believe you Ed002

;-)

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05 Jul 2015 12:53:27
Medal is a typical DM just like Matic or Mascherano. Liverpool don't play with a true DM instead a deep lying playmaker. So we are linked with Kocacic.
A player similar like Alonso.

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05 Jul 2015 13:23:29
Alonso was best with mascha though.

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05 Jul 2015 13:39:07
Fencey

So does Rafa is being criticized for playing s boring system. You don't need two holding players.
Alonso in itself is a Busquets + Xavi.

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05 Jul 2015 15:36:56
Rafa almost always had two CM players. His Valencia success was built on it and then he paired Masher & Xabi. Gerrard either played to the right or off the striker.

I think Hendo & Milner could provide a similar solid base and both will get forward as well but be disciplined about it.

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05 Jul 2015 20:45:52
Boom, they are neither DM's or Alonso type players and that won't work either so either play Lucas who is solid and we almost never lose nor concede when he plays or get a better DM in to play the position the way it's supposed to be played. Matic does the job without being some playmaker BS and see how a key player he I for them and Mou will admit it himself. BR is trying to reinvent the wheel and play an Alonso type player and the ones we have or are trying to buy will never be at his level. Is it too hard to ask for a true DM to play the DM role instead of all these deep playmaker BS?

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05 Jul 2015 11:30:09
Not liverpool related but just want to ask some advice in regards to coaching kids. I have a 4 year old boy, but asking in regards to lads who I work with who have kids slightly older. I grew up in the 70s where we had less things on the TV to watch/computers and the like to get disracted by so we're always out kicking a ball. We are a bit poor with coaching and facilities where I live now but my question if people could help, especially ed01, because of your coaching background is how old is old enough for coaching kids and what would you teach them? Thanks

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{Ed001's Note - from the moment they can I would say they are old enough to play. Just play football with them, no need to coach children, playing football related games non-stop will be enough. Ed003's lad got invited to the Liverpool academy just because he is always out playing footie with him. Coaching should be fun.}

05 Jul 2015 12:09:22
From my experience of coaching kids, make sure they are getting used to having the ball at their feet rather than just kicking it away from themselves all the time. Just dribbling in straight lines. Other good things are just try and get them to tackle you. Make it difficult for them but let them tackle you fairly frequently or else they get bored. When it comes to kicking it, I'd say get them passing it to you and controlling passes from you from about a yard away for each year of age. So 4 yards for age 4. It teaches them to focus more on accuracy than power.

Technical ability isn't focused on enough with young kids because we think they're incapable. Two of the lads I used to coach now play in academy's because I put more emphasis on control than the classic English "try hard". The best footballers make the game seem effortless until they are surrounded by players of similar quality.

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05 Jul 2015 13:27:06
They play in academies because of you, did you do the selectors a 'favour'

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05 Jul 2015 13:44:21
I played football from the age of 5 on the streets of Liverpool 8 in the 60s and wasn`t coached until the age of 11 when I was lucky enough to be chosen for Liverpool Schoolboys under 11s. Attended a few coaching schools in my teens and went on to represent u14s and u15s Liverpool School boys. I played every waking moment as a kid. Out with my friends or just kicking a ball against a wall for hours on end. Would even pay in my bedroom diving on my bed pretending I was a goalkeeper for the Reds of course.
My only thought was to become a professional footballer with my beloved Liverpool. Signed on schoolboy forms at 15 and even trained with the first team along with a few others that summer of 75. Eventually became a professional with Bolton Wanderers Fc in 78 and had a good 6 years here before moving abroad.
I was able to get my F.A. Full License Coaching badge in 1990 and finished playing in New Zealand as a player manager in their National League.
For me kids shouldn't be over coached in their early years and should be left to develop naturally. I am a great believer that mentality is just as important as ability and young people need to develop a love and enthusiasm of the game before you even think of coaching them. I know it makes me sound old but if we didn't have a ball we would use a tennis ball or even a can. Things were tough then in Liverpool 8 but we were out from morning till night just playing the game. Coming in for your dinner only and eating it as quick as you could to get back out their. No PS4s X Boxes.

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05 Jul 2015 14:36:25
I'm a coach of an u10's stepping up to u11's this coming season. All they need at that age is plenty of touches of the ball, toe taps, roll overs, drag backs etc. I didn't introduce goals in training until u7's and just had a training poll for the players to dribble to and stop it at the pole. If there was a goal there instead of the pole the kids would just kick the ball at it as soon as they get chance.

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05 Jul 2015 14:07:13
Cheers lads. I was the type that was always out playing Wembley, headers and volleys, anything, and think that's the way I learnt but thinking how much better someone could have been with coaching at a young age. I agree that it should be fun and all I do with my lad is when I'm not working is get him to kick the small ball he has from nursery home. He has no interest at the mo, and he's built more for rugby! It was just a query to see if people thought it was coach them from a young age or let them just play and give them pointers when they need it

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05 Jul 2015 14:17:50
Take the micky all you want Fencey, my 9 year old cousin has had trials as well and I coached him from 3 years onwards 1 to 1.

As soon as I fi ish my degree I will be looking to get back into regular coaching. I have a real passion for it and people who know me tend to think I'm good at it. So your opinion is of little importance to me. I was juat trying to offer advice to a fellow poster.

Royzered, that was a very interesting insight into your coaching methods mate. Thanks for sharing.

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05 Jul 2015 14:55:38
Completely agree with that Ashy77.

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05 Jul 2015 15:43:52
I found all these comments very interesting as I have a 2 year old Red obviously lol and he does love the ball always asks where's ball and when I'm watching football he shouts football at the TV so he's very attuned with it right now so I'm hoping he will get to love it as I do. So best think to do is to keep playing footy with him for now is it because he's so young?

He does tend to pick it up a lot obviously he's still really young but he loves kicking it around. He kind of kicks it at me though not too me lol

Any advice would be much appreciated.

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05 Jul 2015 18:00:59
Sorry ems it was just the way it read, that was all!
I'm not really a fan of tooting your own horn, maybe when your cousin turns pro he will thank you for making him the player he becomes

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05 Jul 2015 20:49:22
At that age, footie should be fun and that's all it should be. Having played every level but the pros, footie has always been fun and even with all the tactics, systems and responsibilities on the pitch during games, I always made sure to enjoy the game.

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05 Jul 2015 11:09:14
Jovetic to liverpool.could this be a deal that is linked with sterling sale or would this be separate? If any truth in the report and is he any good? Surely if he was then city would be playing him. I would like to see more of him but we need proven prem goal scorer. bony??

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05 Jul 2015 11:40:50
We are pushing for a deal with benteke, if you scrolled down you would see that! Does anybody actually read the posts Ed's put up?

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05 Jul 2015 11:37:03
Jovetic could and probably should be world class by now. However City was a shocking career move for him and his injuries really haven't helped. Personally I wouldn't take the gamble, but if it paid off, we'd be getting ome hell of a player. I don't know if you've seen him for Fiorentina or Montenegro, but he is just a complete striker on his day.

Pace, trickery, movement, excellent link up play, deadly with either foot. I really don't know what went wrong for him at City.

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05 Jul 2015 11:44:26
So would people rather benteke or jovetic?

Jovetic isn't a bad player but at the end of the day if aguero is fit then no other striker gets a look in.

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05 Jul 2015 11:48:40
In an ideal world i'd take bony and not buy benteke, but it just won't happen

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05 Jul 2015 11:54:45
Id take a fit jovetic all day, but it's the fit part that's the problem, him and sturridge as a partnership on the physio table isn't what we need

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05 Jul 2015 11:59:49
Jovetic keeping aside his injury nighmare is the best buy IMO. A very classy player and is million miles better than Benteke on the way we play.

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{Ed002's Note - Jovetic has never settled in England. Manchester City held discussions in London with Inter over the player a few days ago - and Roma are looking to the player as well.}

05 Jul 2015 12:02:19
Jovetic

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05 Jul 2015 12:04:51
I wanted Jovetic involved in the Sterling deal at the end of last season, but we have since signed Firmino. I think he is very similar to Jovetic and the Eds tell us Jovetic is unsettled in the UK. I wouldn't say he's primarily a goal scorer like Benteke.

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05 Jul 2015 12:11:10
Jovetic looked awesome last preseason, scoring against us in the US, but injuries haven't helped him. I really rated him after the preseason, shame he didn't kick on and get game time.

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05 Jul 2015 12:15:18
Good point gmil i'd take Jovetic alao, but Benteke isn't exactly suarez esque regarding injuries is he though?

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05 Jul 2015 13:51:19
Interesting everyone saying Jovetic but also pointing out his poor injury record along with Eds saying he hasn't settled in England. Do we really want to keep gambling on players? We gambled on Balotelli who was another player who scored well in Italy but struggled in England with City. Why do we not learn?

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05 Jul 2015 15:39:14
Spot on Back! Would be an idiotic signing.

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05 Jul 2015 16:11:35
Lfcshadam I am looking at alternatives to beneke. We may be pushing for benteke but we don't want to pay the price so we might not actually get him. It's called a discussion or a debate or sometimes both! If you pulled your head out the eds arse you could get involved! God, some people love to brown nose on here.

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05 Jul 2015 16:57:10
Boom!

If Benteke doesn't start scoring from day one, I am afraid you would be eating your words mate.
This player would be the second most expensive signing in the club history.
And for that money he should win us something.

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05 Jul 2015 17:58:19
Euro!

My intervention in the Benteke discussions was purely to counter the almost universal abuse he was getting and the fact I felt people were giving a false impression of the player he actually is.

I also made it clear from the outset that he wouldn't have been my first choice.

The cost of a transfer is not only the fee. Jovetic would cost 25m I'd have thought and his wages will be much higher. Therefore over a 4 year contract he'd be just as expensive.

Of course he doesn't score at the rate Benteke does and he's also massively injury prone.

Add to that he's not settled in England I'm afraid your argument is as leaky as a sieve.

And allowing for inflation Benteke would cost similar to Torres & Suarez when we signed them. We made about 80m profit on those two. Players ready to make a step up who had been on the radar of lots of top clubs.

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05 Jul 2015 18:35:47
European, how can one player be charged with winning You something, it's a team sport and no matter how good a player is he can't win anything on his own. This is like something you'd hear from kids in a playground.

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05 Jul 2015 19:40:32
Europe I also think he would be the third most expensive after Carroll and Firmino ;)

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05 Jul 2015 20:52:56
Spoke of us must like purchasing perennial sicknotes instead of players who can actually help us. Memo to all: If a player can't get on the pitch to help you due to his poor injury record, he is useless to you regardless of his talent.

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05 Jul 2015 11:01:02
Id like to be the first on here to congratulate the England women's team and in particular our very own fara Williams who scored the extra time penalty that sealed them 3rd place at the world cup. Great performance from the lot they done our country proud

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05 Jul 2015 12:07:01
I'm not really proud of England coming 3rd in the women's World Cup.
Fair play to them though, they've done alright for themselves.

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05 Jul 2015 10:31:20
So now that we have the Brazilian Allan and Welsh Allen what country do we think BR will look to next for his Alan collection?

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05 Jul 2015 11:03:20
There's talk he's looking to the USA to sign their prolific striker Woody.

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05 Jul 2015 10:03:40
For those that don't want benteke, it might be getting a whole lot worse as a deal is looking unlikely. Llorente LOL oh dear :/

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05 Jul 2015 11:04:55
If I were to pick someone from that lot, I would bring Soldado. Knows the league and his goal scoring records in Spain indicates he is an excellent finisher.
Wouldn't cost a fortune.

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05 Jul 2015 11:56:27
Benteke, Soldado or Llorente?

Well at least Benteke is scoring and has his best years ahead of him.

Signing either of the other 2 is like burning millions of pounds. If LFC want to burn this money can I suggest they give it to me for safe keeping?

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05 Jul 2015 11:56:57
Can't tell if you're actually being serious, 'knows the league' and proven he can't compete in it.

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05 Jul 2015 12:17:09
Soldado is lost in the premier league.

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05 Jul 2015 13:52:54
Thats not actually a serious suggestion that you would want Soldado European Glory is it? i'd rather try and sign Fowler for a 3rd time.

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05 Jul 2015 06:38:20
What impact does having no Gerrard have on the team next season? Will we be better?

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05 Jul 2015 07:01:42
absolutely nothing no disrespect for gerrard but his been poor the last two seasons

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05 Jul 2015 07:13:15
I agree matey just was thinking maybe influence wise. Maybe the players have more freedom and will finally step up.

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05 Jul 2015 08:24:31
I think as long as there are characters in the team that can demand respect to keep the younger team members pulling in the same direction and not let their egos get the better of them then we'll be OK. Hendo/Milner/Lucas and perhaps also Sakho/Skrtel all fit that mould for me so we'll be fine.

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05 Jul 2015 09:08:09
agree and i can hendo being very inspirational and inspiring.i used to dread when i saw the team sheet n gerrard at dm,i knew we were going to be outplayed,

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05 Jul 2015 10:21:24
Gerrard may have scored a fair few goals last season, but to base his importance on mainly penalties and goals against lesser opposition such as Leicester and Wimbledon is silly.

He was injured for a period which allowed Rodgers to partner Lucas and Henderson in midfield. During that time we went on an 11 game unbeaten run did we not?

So whilst I still think Gerrard had enough to be an attacking impact sub for us, his status prevented him from being dropped to a bit part role and that was holding us back. He has never been a good central midfielder. He was good on the right, and he was good in the No.10 role. In Central midfield he's always been a headless chicken. He just had the legs to make up for his poor positional awareness in his early career.

It's a shame he became to powerful really because I'd love to have him as an option on the bench for next season.

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05 Jul 2015 11:06:03
Gerrard brings an X factor on the pitch, you like it not not . Whether he is 20 or 35.

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05 Jul 2015 11:11:38
Gerrard became bigger than the club imo and had to go. The team was always in his shadow and he held us back. We'll play much better without him now.

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05 Jul 2015 11:58:24
Gerrard has never been a good Centre mid, dear god

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05 Jul 2015 12:25:31
Fencey, a prime example is Istanbul. Gerrard was getting ruined by Kaka, then he got pushed forward to accommodate Didi and the game was changed because Didi offered much more composure and stability in midfield and Gerrard had the freedom to get forward into the box which directly aided 2 of our 3 goals.

Gerrard simply isn't and never has been a central midfielder. The best days of his career were in attacking roles with Xabi and Masch behind him.

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05 Jul 2015 12:32:33
Agree with you Ed02, As he couldn't settle in England just like Salah and many more players.
We should have never been in this situation as you said, we should have looked at Pedro last summer, not an out and out striker but a goal scoring player.

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05 Jul 2015 16:24:38
No one knows what affect not having Gerrard in and around the team will have until the season starts.

You would hope the likes of Hendo, Milner, Lallana will step up and have more influence on the squad now he has left.

Hopefully the tour will allow the next natural leader come to the forefront

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05 Jul 2015 06:21:54
seems like we will eventually get benteke,i decided to check out his goals as of last season(goals as that what we lucked last season).this is my conclusion his finishing is quit clinical,he scored more goals using his foot not headers,most of his goals we from open play and not crosses.so i ask what us fans would feel if we play either of the top four with benteke on there side

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05 Jul 2015 08:31:12
I like Benteke and I think he's capable of playing top 4. The problem is however, I believe our best system is one that uses highly mobile strikers to feed off through balls/passes provided by Hendo/Coutinho and enforcing a high press in defence and that's not really his style.

On the other hand, if we have to adapt to anyone as a big CF then might as well be him. What I really don't want to see though is him joining, then everyone asking to be a Suarez, criticising his work rate if he's not and asking him to do a job he's clearly not suited for.just like we tried to do with Balotelli in my opinion.

Know what you're getting and play to their strengths or don't sign them at all.

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04 Jul 2015 21:54:04
Eds I recall Phil Thompson once alluding to the fact that we nearly signed ronaldo. I'm also aware we nearly signed vidic and a host of other top players. This all occurred predominately during Rick parrys time.

My question is how close we're we to signing ronaldo and why did a lot of these transfers not take place??

Regards

Niall

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{Ed001's Note - penny pinching is why they never happened, such a Parry refusing to spend £3.6m on Cristiano Ronaldo, even though the deal was completely done. He said it was too much to spend on a youngster.}

05 Jul 2015 09:00:35
Wasn't it between him and djibril cisse?

Houlier is quoted as saying it was too much to spend on a youngster aswel, so there is another manager covering the owners hoops lmao

We also nearly had Simao, Daniel Alves (who was on a plane at the time but we didn't want to pay an extra 2 Mil or summit)

We have also missed quite a few transfer when we have chose to pursue the wrong option.

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05 Jul 2015 12:00:08
Yeah but you wonder how many we nearly signed and turned out to be dog

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05 Jul 2015 12:43:09
I remember us being close to signing Lee Bowyer.

Dodged one there.

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05 Jul 2015 13:15:20
Bowyer. A face only a mother could love.

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05 Jul 2015 05:29:28
been watching lovren a lot when he was in southampton and at the world cup where he was very good infact i calling him world class then was not an understatement,now for liverpool its all got to do with understanding and link up play with your partner which sktel is extremly poor in that makes lovren run around like a headless chicken try to cover his and skrtel position,even terry would struggle with skrtel in deffence.

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05 Jul 2015 06:09:12
Really? Watch the mistakes that cost goals and tell me what they had to do with Skrtel.

Lovren was also very poor in his first season in France suggesting he is mentally weak.

If he needs everything to be perfect around him then he's not a leader.

A leader by definition takes the initiative and fixes problems.

Let's hope it was just first season wobbles and he improves. But as he lacks the confidence to play 5 yards from his favoured left-sided position I do wonder if he'll get in ahead of Sakho. Needs a strong pre-season.

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05 Jul 2015 07:04:59
Lovern lacks pace and is beaten by every striker who runs at him. He has to play high line and that's not an easy task.
I never understand the sole reason we went for him as Southampton looks much better side with him and Lallana.

This has nothing to do with Skrtel.

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05 Jul 2015 08:12:06
No cover in front of the defence is causing all this .

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05 Jul 2015 08:39:33
If only it were that simple 5ive.

There are many reasons we concede too many.

We over commit and get done on the break and a DM is like the proverbial boy with the finger in the dyke. He can't cover the width of the pitch.

We also ship too many from set pieces which is not a DM thing.

The goalkeeper doesn't inspire confidence ( although signs of improvement on that score)

And we specialise in individual mistakes (combination of bad play, bad luck, lack of concentration, system that encourages playing out from the back)

Would love to say get a DM and all will cushty but it's not the answer. We simply have to be more pragmatic about getting the ball away from the danger zones, leave one full back back and have 2 sitters rather than 1.

Those things might help.

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05 Jul 2015 08:49:34
Agree with Boom on many context. A DM is not responsible for what we concede in set pieces.

People need to get over from the delusion,drop Skrtel and this side will never concede goals.

If I am right we did try both Sakho and lovern together earlier last season.

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05 Jul 2015 11:10:45
We have a very good defensive midfielder in Lucas!

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05 Jul 2015 12:52:47
There are no leaders in our defence like Carra, Hyypia, Lawrenson, Hansen, Thommo, Hughes, Smith, Yeates.etc
Add to that a keeper who used to be scared of his own shadow and you have a pretty toxic mix when facing set pieces.
A good defence doesn't need a brilliant DM, similarly a brilliant DM will not solve a rubbish defence.

We need a leader, I'd suggest Sakho but I don't know what his English is like. He has experience at the highest level. He needs to be told "you are my leader in defence, you will always start when available". He needs the confidence and authority to be a defensive leader.
Lovren has limited experience, he has zero confidence. He's not a leader. Migs is too quiet. Moreno is too busy trying to score worldies to be defensive leader and Clyne is new.
Skrtel is not good enough, Kolo is too old.

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05 Jul 2015 01:47:02
Some united fan giving us stick where i live back home, saying we have no midfielder better than Herrera(he reads our page) someone please tell this guy why hendo/lucas/Can (are/will be better! Haha ( just call him the devil)

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05 Jul 2015 07:05:59
Herrerra is a class player. It's just his relationship with LVG the sole issue.

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05 Jul 2015 08:06:16
If their midfield is so great why do they feel the need to lob the ball up to Felliaini to have the remotest chance of penetrating any defence. Give me hendo or coutihno over Herrera any day of the week.

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05 Jul 2015 08:50:28
Swis.

That's called as utilizing player strength. Countinho is not similar to Herrerra and our performance last season with both were poor.

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05 Jul 2015 10:33:41
Euro, coutihno is a midfielder isn't he? That's what the original question was. I would rather a build a team wound coutinhos talents than herraras.

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05 Jul 2015 11:03:33
Well in my defense there are different set of midfielders and Herrerra could only be compared to Hendo.
I love Herrera the player and share the same opinion as Ed01 about the player.
In case of building around a player, we should include Mata into the context ( midfielder like Countinho )

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05 Jul 2015 01:03:57
Probably our best defensive performance since Brendan took over was vs Tottenham at the start of the season. It was Moreno Sakho Lovren Manquillo, 3 brand new players. First half was shaky to be honest and we got away with it. But the second half was just a joy to see for any fan who plays in defence. That line stayed together, CBs close to each other the whole time. Not a skrtel in sight.

To the less knowledgeable fans Skrtel is a good defender. During the game he throws himself about makes some slide tackles, all good for his personal highlight reels. But he throws himself at the ball so often, he just has a massive desire to get that ball he doesn't think at all. Going for headers he won't win, happened twice vs Dwight Gayle in two different visits to selhurst park. Most of his slide tackles he only has to make because he was out of position in the first place. How many times do you see John Terry throwing himself around like that, not often. Being a defender is about reading the game.

Brendan clearly thinks Skrtel is a world class defender because of his highlight reels, and that's why he picks him. Just proves how he doesn't have a clue about defending. Back to selhurst park, the 3-3. I distinctly remember Skrtel going for the ball he will never win, if he just stayed where he was he could have won the ball on the ground from Gayle or blocked a shot, or see him out. But instead he went for it and failed so Gayle scored. In the post match interview Brendan said "ah, the defence lost focus there, it's simple, if you lose focus you get dropped." Next game is vs Newcastle, Sakho dropped.

I'm not having a dig at less knowledgeable fans, you don't have to be tactically astute to enjoy the game and not even to have a valid opinion. I am not tactically astute myself but it's abundantly clear that Skrtel is not good.

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05 Jul 2015 01:52:17
Lovren is up there with konchesky. He needs to go. We should start sakho and illori of sakho and wisdom

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05 Jul 2015 03:34:32
Lovren is a very good defender who needs to be played in the same system he played in at Saints where a true DM (Wanyama)protecting him which then allows him to do his thing as in harry the opposition and press the striker he`s marking. In BR`s system, any CB will struggle because with Allen or SG at DM and with a woeful defender like Srtel next to any CB, it will be suicide as we all saw last season. Only when Lucas plays at DM do we win and keep a clean sheet. All in all, Skrtel is aweful and needs to be sold and the fact that BR thinks he`s that good after benchin him for a semi retired Jaime Carragher 2 yrs ago, shows you exactly why our defensive woes under him are "uncoachable"

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05 Jul 2015 03:36:38
This season back 4 needs to be clyne lovren sakho moreno

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05 Jul 2015 05:25:56
Lovren did well because of Fonte next too him, wanyama and schneiderlin in front and a gk that communicated. Our issue last year was we had moreno who isn't the best at defending, who also speaks a different language to sakho. Johnson who was lazy and never tracked backed causing issues. Skrtel who never communicated and was rash leaving gaps where noone covered. Lastly a manager who doesn't know how too coach a defense.

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05 Jul 2015 05:45:25
Snabi
Your 100% right but we have to have Lucas playing as DM or it doesn't matter what defence we have out in all honestly

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05 Jul 2015 06:14:51
I distinctly remember we rode our luck many times in that game.

Nowhere near our best defensive performance.

In the season we finished 2nd Skrtel & Sakho with Lucas and/or Allen in front produced some of our best defensive outcomes.

See from the defeat away at Hull up until Christmas when we blitzed teams.

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05 Jul 2015 06:35:34
Boom could that not be down the fact we destroyed teams in the first half so the opposition had lost already thus not bothering to attack. Watching us i always see a mistake happening. i'd hope o driscoll could help the players decisiveness,especially skrtel if he stays.

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05 Jul 2015 07:07:16
So lovern needs a DM to function, y not Skrtel needs a Chelsea or Rafa system to function then?

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05 Jul 2015 11:14:45
It's amazing how many times people come back to the Spurs game, it shows how shockingly bad our season was when we all seem to revert back to one game.
Let's hope this season we can play really well in lots of games so we don't look so sad reliving one match every time.

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05 Jul 2015 11:16:00
Did you read the post boom? I said we were shaky, we got away with a lot in the first half. But as my post says, it was the second half that was brilliant. Mainly, they all stayed in a line moving together, in such a way that had never been seen under Brendan rodgers. If Brendan knew how to defend, why would he change that defence after such a performance. I'm not saying Lovren should be exempt from criticism, but there is strong reason to actually try Sakho and Lovren again. Cannot be any worse than what it is now.

Well in 2013-14 there was no good performances of defence I cannot actually believe you have said that, even when we were blitzing teams se were conceeding 2 or 3.

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05 Jul 2015 00:32:09
I know a lot of you are bored waiting for the season to start me also, But if anyone hasn't seen it then go to youtube and type "Shankly" top vid length 1:32:05 whatever love or pride you feel forLiverool will sky rocket when watching this.

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{Ed007's Note - This one bud?

05 Jul 2015 01:14:41
Yes ed that 1, Really good documentary on him, plus so good to hear him again, you can't not feel something when listening to him.

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05 Jul 2015 11:32:22
I had goosebumps during this, what a charismatic man.

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05 Jul 2015 13:51:17
Me also Mcgoveb, He really was one of the kop, His love for Liverpool was un-questionable, And his honesty too never cheated the fans no bullsh*t like a lot of managers now. Hard work really does pay off.

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