Liverpool Banter Archive June 05 2013

05 Jun 2013 22:07:49
He may be a pain and he may be going, but you can't hide the fact he is very good. Suarez scores again for Uraguay.

It was such a good goal.
derryred

What a goal it was aswell.

Is this post about Suarez or your moral high ground. !

Such a shame it has to end like this. lfc must be so unlucky. first torres now suarez, just carnt beleive it that he may not be at lfc

05 Jun 2013 21:47:48
Will yesil make pre season or is he still injured? Cheers

06 Jun 2013 07:29:39
as far as I know he is stil injured, I hope he gets back on track

He should be back to play some part in the pre season

He should be back to play some part in the pre season

05 Jun 2013 21:15:10
have Liverpool ever shown interest in nathan redmond?

Hope not, he is way overrated mate.

05 Jun 2013 22:37:20
To the ed's great site. we were told all transfers would be done early. How early did rodgers and arye mean? And whoever said "No news is good news" is a liar! ;-)


Ynwa

The window hasn't opened yet, chill

Not as early as Barca, West Ham, Man City and any other clubs who have confirmed and paraded new players.

Its the Usual LFC, its mostly the press made up stuff which keeps us fans going.

Window be be usual, sign one early -Free signing Kolo.
Sniff round a second but get locked in negotiations for ages. Eventually sign 2nd player while missing out on many which are linked. Probably Aspas for more than originally quoated.
Watch rivals build u and sign players we'd like after seeing them linked in press - Eriksen, Higuin, Papa, Digne, Sanchez, Ilori, Mkayan (spelling), Soldano, Benteke etc etc
last window day after squad is depleted by too many outgoing - Skrtel, Carroll, Spearing, Downing, Coates, Suarez and loans. We wait for news of third signing due to having about £60mil burning a hole. lights go out and Anfield closes early around 9pm July 31st

Story will be not held to ransom and January will be a busy window, BR happy with squad although it contradicts needing depth and many signings incoming etc.
Go into new season a bit low and see that injury list high and FSG go quiet with a fat profit.

Considering that transfers can't actually be confirmed until 1st July, not this early!

Considering that transfers can't actually be confirmed until 1st July, not this early!

05 Jun 2013 21:36:22
Not Liverpool related but I think fulham have got a steal ther.

Nevada

I think Fulham are looking good for next season.
Love the fact that all teams seem to be getting better.
Ups the ante for everyone.

Fulham got a few steals!

05 Jun 2013 21:16:21
Eds with City signing both Navas and Fernandinho, plus the abundance of midfielders already there, can you see them still going for Isco?

If not couldn't we be a club that would interest him? Would get more games with us.

Jonesred {Ed019's Note - City are going to sell some players to go for other targets e.g Nasri, Dzeko and Tevez have attracted interest from European teams}

Tevez will be off to Juventus for 15mil
St Helens Red

Nasri and Dzeko to PSG

05 Jun 2013 20:57:36
Any news or updates its too quiet on here at the mo cheers
biff

05 Jun 2013 20:33:03
German media have reported that Kyriakos Papadopoulous has set his heart on a move to Liverpool and that he even travelled to London last month to see us play against Fulham. Does any of the eds know if this is true? Looks like there is just the matter of a fee to be agreed between the clubs.
The Gooch {Ed023's Note - It could be true, you never know.. Are you a Kerry football fan? Just wondering with your sign off name}

Hon the gooch. Unfortunately I'm a Longfordian so not much success. Surprised you know about that Ed!

Irish redman

Isn't the gooch the area which sits beneath your plums?

Well, that's what I call mine.

DaveyBootle

Davey, nickname of a very prolific Gaelic Footballer, but yes also the name for your genitals. He's no Paddy Bradley but.
derryred

The Gooch, the greatest footballer in Ireland and a Liverpool fan. maybe I am the man himself ;)
The Gooch

The gooch is also the famous nickname for Colin Cooper, one of the greatest GAA (gaelic football) players ever.

Irish redman

Ed023 knows his gaa! An Irish Ed? {Ed023's Note - Of course I'm from your rival county and future Munster and All Ireland champs.. Cork! lol}

Someone needs a basic anatomy course!

No no Davey that area is called the chinrest! :0}

He was able to type and use a computer ed023 so I don't think he is from Kerry {Ed023's Note - I'm staying out of it ha ha..}

06 Jun 2013 09:29:54
Any chance of a GAA page ed? Would be good to have the craic with the fellow All Ireland contenders supporters along with mournemen Down.

An Dun Red

{Ed023's Note - I have passed on your request An Dun Red. That's a really good idea.}

05 Jun 2013 20:27:16
Ed please tell me there's a chance that we can get Warrior to redesign the away kit. If we complain enough we could force their hand. What do you think? {Ed023's Note - I like it and no they won't change it}

I like it too! Really can't understand the hate.

The new away kit has already grown on me, I like it alot.

IF you look closely at the new Shirt the collar is deisigned exactly like that of the clobber the best Special forces in the world use the Spetsnaz

You need to look more carefully, they have used the black, grey, red etc colours to try and simulate flames ( not very well granted ), from the dark to the light, rising up again. The warrior advertising campaign -RISE UP.
maybe they should have just printed big yellow and red flames on it instead of using our old away colours and trying to be imaginative.

Do any of you have your own option or do you just agree with the Eds all the time? #Sheep {Ed023's Note - Oh we wish that was the case.. Posters on here have their own minds. Just because people share an opinion doesn't mean they are sheep and FYI THIS ISN'T TWITTER :)}

05 Jun 2013 17:10:20
im 60/40 now that ronaldo is going back home to united, we really need to keep suarez if this happens, he's the only one in the prem who would come close to him. so much for their demise.

alson what is with our away kit, its embarrasing and I for one will not be buying it. as if we haven't become enough of a joke, no one is gna want to sign for us wearing that and will put the nail in the coffin for luis

They play for the badge not the shirt. Clearly they agreed to wear it so. It's a shirt, not the end of the world.

05 Jun 2013 19:39:06
personally would like to see McManaman of Wigan to move good young player who would do anything for a club, if we got Robben it would be brilliant but why would Munich sell? any interest in both of them eds? tanks great job done JD6 {Ed023's Note - I suspect Robben has offers elsewhere including Italy.. I've a feeling as I said a few weeks back McCarthy and McManaman will go to Everton}

05 Jun 2013 19:33:32
Sorry if this got through eds as my phones browser just kept reloading after I had clicked send!

Echo reporting that mkhitaryan deal will only be sanctioned by Liverpool if Suarez goes, thought this wasn't the case? {Ed023's Note - I just think it's a case of putting 2 and 2 together and popping up with 5..}

05 Jun 2013 19:10:57
Would the fernandinho transfer have any impact on us trying to sign M K?
In the sense of them not been stuck for money as I no they play different areas of the pitch

They already have tons of money. Money hasn't been an issue for them.

05 Jun 2013 18:53:12
Mkhiyyaran or eriksen, who is more likely?

Mk looks more likely mate.
I don't like eriksons attitude pimping himself all over Europe.
Mk actually wants to be here.

MIKEY

Mk has come from more humble roots and looks to be a hard worker, however I don't like the fact he thinks he deserves such high wages. Eriksen will feel he deserves the same but I would hope dagger's attitude would rub off on him, but I doubt he would give up on his dream of playing for barca or Real Madrid. Either way we will be getting a quality player.
Drew

MK will go to the club offering the most in wages.

The Irish Rover

Mk doesn't 'actually want to be here'. He 'actually doesn't want to be over there and we seem to be his best offer'

05 Jun 2013 18:36:06
I've heard that We are preparing for bids from Juventus, Real Madrid and Bayern Munich all meeting the £50 mill asking price. We want to start a bidding war and this may lead to a price of £60 mill and players. Emre Can of Bayern Munich is someone Rodgers rates highly and will ask for him as part of the deal. He believes he can replace Lucas in the coming seasons.

05 Jun 2013 18:28:19
Has any body got up to date Information regarding Ooredoo Telecom Investing in Liverpool? Thanks

Ye're what has happened to that rumours. Is there some truth in it? can anyone give us some more information?

05 Jun 2013 18:25:22
I am Just saying if we don't improve next season ROGDERS will have a lot of answering to do and it wouldn't be any of his 'transition Crap'

What a nonsense comment!

We've improved this season so don't know why your being so negative we are slowly going back in the right direction

#RogdersOut!

He can take Saurez with him! We don't need any imposters hanging about the place. We finally got rid of that Ken Aguero fella, the last thing we need is more of these guys!

Ali, I understand your frustration, we all do, but look at our performance in the final third of the season and can you honestly say there has been no progress? I think not.
BR has brought an exciting brand of football and he's done it against a backdrop of change, unrealistic fan expectation and with an overall reduction both in wages and the average age of the players.
In this context I think you have to say he has done well and if the touted signings actually end up at the club I think we will challenge all season for a champions league spot, but, we may not get one.
In our days of constant presence in the ECL there were only 4 realistic contenders now there are 6 ( 7 if you count Everton) The premier league has changed, our expectations must change with it, qualifying in 3 out of ever 5 seasons is now the most we can hope for unless we receive investment on the scale of city, utd, chelsea.
Andy H

Improved?

How?

Last season we won something this year we won nothing

Nameless poster, you forget that wigan won something this season and got relegated. Must be an improvement if progress can only be measured in trophies.

LA

05 Jun 2013 23:10:59
Stop with the we won something last year rubbish, wigan and swansea won cups this year! And its not like we have been winning trofies or enjoying CL for ages!
So we have scored 71 goals, the 4th time ever since the premier league era started!
18 diffrent players have scored for Liverpool for the first time ever since the premierleague era started!
We have created the most chances in europe this season and Liverpools highest chance pr game ratio for the last 17 seasons!
We play some of the most attractive football and and scored some wonderful team goals!
61 points which is almost 10 more than last season, and keeping in mind we played with 1 striker for half the season and the youngest Liverpool squad for over 15 seasons, with loosing players like kuyt, bellamy, carroll, adam, aquilani, maxi.
Get a grip and try to understand the big picture and stop with the unrealistic expectations! We are rebuilding and slowly improving all the time, since january and the signings of coutinho and sturridge we have been in the top 4 form table! that's improvment for blind eyes to see!
Last year we also had less games and we played some of the worst football I have witnessed for ages with the likes of spearing, adam and carroll starting a huge amount of games!
They wouldn't start for my u-21 2nd division team mate!
We are most def. Improving and moving in the right direction!
In Buck I trust. peace {Ed023's Note - Fantastic post!}

Wigan won something, don't be so short sighted

What a silly comment! Do you wish to become Wigan? Win something and get relegated instead of steady progress?

Indian with Red Heart

05 Jun 2013 18:15:57
What players have we got playing in the u21 euros? and could you tell us what players we are looking at that are playing at it so I could watch them closely! thanks

Borini, Shelvey, Henderson and Robinson are currently playing for u21's I think Suso might be in the squad for Spain but not sure about that.

05 Jun 2013 17:26:45
Not a rumour, but will Liverpool have any scouts at the U21 championships that are taking place?

Good lucky to Hendo and Borini with their countries - good young talent has a chance to shine!

Thanks and keep up the great work

05 Jun 2013 16:45:55
Eds. The infamous envelopes as depicted in 'being Liverpool'. When are the names revealed of who let us down?
If they have already been revealed I missed it so can someone please let me know? {Ed023's Note - All will be revealed in a special length 5 hour LFC news on the 23rd July...DON'T MISS IT!!!}

Excuse my ignorance, but what is this?

Thanks,

Blaz

Luis Suarez's name is in all 3 envelopes.

MIKEY

Fat Sam and Harry both had famous envelopes.

DaveyBootle

The envelopes were empty. it was something alex ferguson did years ago apparently so brendan thought he'd give it a go.

Ed023, they cancelled the 5 hour news special, and the content of the envelopes will now be revealed in the special edition dvd due to be released after 3 players are sold.
Take from me I am very much in the know
Roy {Ed023's Note - Typical!! Always wanting more money off us}

Kev from skem your joking we didn't know that

05 Jun 2013 16:34:45
Eds can you see us signing Toure, Aspas, Benteke, Mkhitaryan and Papadopoulos. {Ed023's Note - First two yes. Last 3, maybe}

05 Jun 2013 16:23:46
hey ed any club interested in adal taarabt, technical player and can play with his back against the goal.

In my opinion he would be a bargain, what do u reckon ed? {Ed023's Note - He has severe attitude problems.. Not what the dressing rooms needs}

People like you bore me to tears, I'm sure Brendon and the back room team are all working hard and will buy players when the time is right. Toure I'm sure will be a great piece of buisness with all the experience he has look at what happened with the team and consistency when carragher came back into the team someone who organises is what we need. Shroud bit of business if u ask me!

I think Rodgers would wipe that attitude clean of his face, he is a very good player still.

Why would he Benny? No-one else has

05 Jun 2013 16:56:35
Liverpool to bid £22 Million for Henrikh Mkhitaryan within the next week-Adam

Please no!

05 Jun 2013 16:52:27
What's with all the complaining about the kits? I've just moved house and while putting away my clothes, I have 26 shirts from over the years and in a few weeks time I will have 2 more, home and away every new kit. Don't care what they look like as long as they have the liver bird on the chest. Never have a name put on it because NO name is bigger than the club.
Been reading a lot of the posts and most of them are getting quite annoying, Suarez this, who going to replace him, how to convince players to come to us, how we a mid table team.
FSG are showing their intentions with early signings already, they have enquired about a £20m player none dependant on Suarez sale, all this with our any completed sales, these are out of their own pockets, how many other clubs have been this quick of the mark in transfers already?
We made huge steps in the right direction towards the end of last season, with the signings we are talking about, enquiries starting already, players that look pretty damn exciting for us, we are not going to be a mid table team.
Suarez is leaving, around 40 million, why should we take a player that had to be convinced to come to us, a player should want to come to us not the other way around. We are still
LFC, we are on our way back up, if Suarez or players don't won't to be part of that take the money re invest as FSG and BR want and support who ever wears our shirt.

At the end of the day any one of us can complain about the shirts but we're all going to be buying them!

Lifelongred

What's worse are the people who complain about the people complaining about the shirts. (Just for the record, I won't be buying the new shirt)

It is a banter site, so you can expect a bit of discussion about the brand new shirts and if people like it or not. People will also talk about Suarez and what a bell end he is on here.
I'm sure some people will only be happy when it's an empty page.

On another note 26 shirts? That's a bit mental but I'm a bit like you in that I can't throw them out no matter how much a few deserve to be binned lol
This years away shirt will not be bought by me lol

MIKEY

We've only agreed a deal with Toure free. No other signings

Nothing confirmed of any £20m bids just press talk

Also nothing to say that BR would get all the cash. FSG are a business first

Away kits are horrendous. Confirmed

05 Jun 2013 16:05:20
If we get in half the players we are rumoured to be looking at and keep Suarez we will be a much stronger side next season just hope Sturridge's injury doesn't prevent us having a good start to the league as this crippled us last season.

NS

05 Jun 2013 15:46:22
Some great comments of support for Martin Skrtel on the LFC website.

I am one of the minority on this site who can see how good Skrtel is. Every time I have mentioned him on here I end up getting stick.

I am sure many of you do not watch our team play very often (probably just MOTD highlights).
Either that or this site is full of kids who just want a different name in their sticker books.

A few bad games does not make you a bad player. Is he the only one who hasn't performed at top level this season? Jonno, Enrique, Pepe, Allen, Lucas, Downing, Hendo, Sterling, Jonjo, Gerrard and Suarez have all had bad games this season. Form is a part of every player, whether it's good or bad.

I guarantee that those who have said Skrtel is not good enough will eat there words. He is a top player, much better than the injury prone Papadopoulos who most of you have been banging on about.

Red Lee

Skrtle is way too inconsistent, and u would see that if u actually watched Liverpool games and not just MOTD, as u pointed out.
he did have admitedly a gud season in 11/12, but under rodgers he can't pass enough and panics at the back. Need better for top 4
Jak

I agree, Skirts is one of our best defenders and losing Cara as well will hurt us whoever we bring in.

It's a rebuilding process still and TBH the defence should have been a priority last summer rather than signing the dross that is Allen and Boroni.

Actually, your among those minority of folks who over-rate Skrtel.

I cannot ofcourse speak for everyone on this site, but I am pretty sure the majority watch LFC play, week in week out. Your rather pathetic, know-it-all comments will most likely end up getting abuse.

Sure, like Skrtel, Johnson, Allen, Pepe, Lucas, Henderson etc have all received their fair share of criticism here, fair or not.

As for he is better than Papa, you are again wrong. In 5 and a half seasons at LFC, Skrtel has perhaps had 2 seasons (spread throughout the 5 and half) where he was good, not great, but just about good.

I think, it's pretty clear who the kids here.

The real AG

05 Jun 2013 16:27:48
Skrtel is a liability and always has been, his positional sense is poor he backs off backs off backs off until the attacker is on or in our box then decides to clatter in to them, his decision making is poor, he thinks clattering into someone is defending. He appears strong and decent in the air, but put him up against a physical forward and he is shown up. Put him up against any pace or skill and he has no way to combat it, all in all an ordinary defender.

Just because people on a Liverpool website agree with your assertions on skrtel doesn't make him a good player, this also doesn't mean you don't know what your talkin about because I think we can all have a blind spot with certain players, myself included.

Waro

It doesn't matter what you think. The egotist from the Office as been critical and says he lacks organisation skills and leadership qualities. Bye Bye Martin, you was our player of the yr getting us to 2 cup finals. But the guy who as a giant self portrait of himself in his house says no. {Ed023's Note - Maybe mistakes during this season said no? If you actually took your head out of your ass you would realise we kept more clean sheets with Martin out of the side}

I agree mate. He is a good player and one that's worth keeping in my opinion.

We should sign ONE world class defender to replace Carra and maybe sign someone to do a better a job a RB than Johnson who can then move/cover for RW and keep everyone else.

Crowman.

05 Jun 2013 17:27:57
hi I think that skrtel can improve. he has scored some good goals for us this season and last. most of our defenders cannot score apart from agger and Johnson. you need a whole defence who can score also and defend. yes he has a few issues with positioning but I think he can improve. I believe he was dropped because carra ws retiring so Brendon rogers wanted to just give carra the games until the end of season. I believe he will still be here I hope so. he's a tough cb. and you need some one like that in the team.

A defence needs support from midfield. players who will track back and help break up the attack of the opposition.

For the first half of the season Allen was the player allocated that job.
Allen is not a defensive midfielder, which meant that there was more pressure on the defence as our midfield was too weak.

If Lucas had not returned from injury and taken over from Allen then Carra would not have had it so easy.

Red Lee

P. S. Jak if you have trouble understanding a post ask your Mum or Dad to read it to you slowly. I am sure they will break it up in simple terms.

Wasn't the giant self portrait given to Brendan as a present from a previous club? It's not as if he had it painted of himself.
It would be a bit rude of him to just bin it or not put it up, besides it must be a great conversation starter for him.

MIKEY

Totally agree with waro, skrtel not first choice cb for me, remember stoke away, awful he was. as a squad player then ok.

B O H

Red lee - I am one who thinks Skrtel is a massive player for us - since the Barnsley game ( which I was at ) he hasn't played - Coates was as weak as a kitten and feel that Skrtel should have taken control and battled with their 6'6 forward, but didn't - must have fallen out with BR over this game. Since then been discarded. As C/B you have to be solid and commanding and a donkey- Skrtel is all these, cannot believe we want to sell him.

05 Jun 2013 19:02:24
Waro, how would you know more about positioning etc than Skrtel? He is pro footballer playing for Liverpool and you're not

Hounsred {Ed023's Note - You do know Ware is Steve Nicol in disguise?}

05 Jun 2013 19:17:21
He gets bullied off the ball too easy. I think he's a big softie, but I'd rather have him at the back than Kolo

05 Jun 2013 19:29:28
Vastly overrated! Has no bravery, meaning he waits too long to put in a challenge and when he does its usually too late!
Runs and runs back wards instead of putting a challenge and has resulted in us dropping numerous points, because I watch each game and sometimes watch a game twice I can tell you that you need to watch our games because you are the one sounding like a child who actually have never watched a game!
He lost us 4 points against city, he looked horible vs a league 2 side, we were crushed by saints when he came back in the team, and even when carragher came in the side we kept a lot of cleansheets! For a big defender he gets bullied a lot and doesn't fit the system at all!
I support players when they get abuse they don't deserve like allen, borini, sturridge, enrique, lucas!
But skrtel? Sorry he needs to go! No comitment to the cause at all!

Malak

'Head out of you're ass'! Now that made me chuckle, I'm really warming to Ed023 he (she?)should come on here more.
In Buck we trust! {Ed023's Note - I'm a he :) - I think :/ - I'm always here, mostly on the sports bets page..}

Nobody is saying Skrtel's a bad player. He does not fit into Rodger's tactics of passing the ball from the back. His passing is not too great which has let him down too often this season. His inconsistency does not help either. He was outstanding last season, but I think its the right time for him to move to newer pastures. Napoli would be good for him, because they have Rafa.

Apart from losing us a win with that horrendous back pass against Man City if I recall early on, I like him.

Hope he stays and like Downing and Henderson puts in hard work to reclaim and maintain a place here. Like players who want to prove their worth rather than sulk and look to move

Hounsred, that is one of the worst posts I've read on here ( and that takes some doing, )so because you don't play pro football and in particular for Liverpool then you don't understand how the game works.

Most tipsters and pro punters have never sat on a horse but they know more than most jockeys, you my mate are clueless!

Waro

Malak you may as well have copy and pasted Waro's post.
Why do you feel the need to have a dig because I voice a positive opinion about a player?
I watch every game and I look at the positives as well as the negatives.
I don't think "oh Skrtel made a poor backpass which led to us conceding a goal, he is sh*t, get rid". I am not as fickle as some of you. He was our player of the season the previous year let's not forget!

Like I said Lucas came back in and took a lot of pressure off the centre backs.
Do you not understand how important Lucas is for our defence? can you not comprehend that any defence will struggle if there is no help from midfield?

BR has said Skrtel is in his plans for next season so if that is true you will see.

Rushie, spot on fella.

Red Lee

05 Jun 2013 23:28:18
Mate you must be new to this site, me and waro have a history and rarley agree and I don't read his posts and neither does he mine, and am one of the most supportive to players and ask anyone, I understand how important lucas is but that doesn't change the fact that Skrtel is not comitted and have played badly all season not just the back pass, talks a lot to the media about loosing his place, so he is exactly the whiner you say he isn't and when he got a chance he didn't give everything to reclaim his place, instead he and his agent are talking about offers from other places and moving!
Clearly not a player comitted to the cause or even willing to fight for a place!
You are so biased your judgement is flawed! Skrtel was good last season in a much more defensive system and in a team that scored 42 and let in 40.
This year we scored 71 and let in 42, and 20 of those came with Skrtel in the side! You do the math my friend! BR doesn't rate him at all, if he did he would have played him more! Sorry mate but being over supportive even when there is no reason other than being supportive doesn't work for me! He has to go so we can find someone actually willing to fight for a place and most importantly fits the system! Peace

Malak

04 Jun 2013 20:31:16
Hi my first ever post & just a question.

Do you know if Aspas has been brought in to play right wing (replacement for downing) or if he'll have a more central role?

and for you & anyone who has seen him play, what is your personal opinion on him?

Thanks
Craggan21 {Ed023's Note - I reckon he will be asked to play both roles as BR likes his front 3 rotating}

Suso is a bit of a concern for me. The lad is around 21yrs old isn't he? Similar age to Mkhitaryan, Erikson and others we have been linked to. I think the kid is quality and does have a bright future but why are we looking elsewhere in that case and not giving him a chance? Perhaps he'll be cover for Coutinho and the big fellas are to add steel to the backbone of the team. But if Suso's always out on loan, will be 22yrs old soon enough and by the time he's 22-23yrs isn't getting a run in the first team, that has to tell us something and also tell the player something - like he may get that first team playing time elsewhere. It seems as though Brendan is seeing something missing from this lad and I for one think it would be a shame to squander and not nurture that talent.

The idea of the kids is that they break into the first team. Not giving buying nobody in their position so they are the only option he's only 19 the armenian is 24. The lad need to go on loan in the prem for a year possibly 2 until he proves himself there & then come back when he's established

Swampmonster (cba to log in on a different device)

Suso is 19 and a few months until he is 20 so he has plenty of time on his hands.
Cheers

Suso is 19.

"BR likes his front 3 rotating"

LOL ;) couldn't help it Ed023!

The real AG {Ed023's Note - Ha ha, you know what I meant :D}

04 Jun 2013 09:59:38
Yo eds. Could you give me a little insight to what type of player this Myhitryan however u spell his name is. I will be honest and have never seen him play but heard a lot of noise regarding him. What do u make of him?
Shabba! {Ed023's Note - See earlier answers, I have answered this - thanks}

A popular description is Dirk Kuyt mixed with Pedro

Love the Dirk Kuyt/Pedro description. Haven't heard that before but it sounds very apt. He's a very well rounded attacking midfielder with a high work-rate and very smart direct passing and running. Works the channels and can play deeper as well to cover a bit of defense but has a very keen eye for goal which mostly comes from his intelligence in running and his direct and accurate shooting/finishing.

04 Jun 2013 00:19:33
ed002 I know you don't rate players so this is for any of the other eds who know a bit about him, do youse rate Mkhitaryan? Would he fit in here? {Ed023's Note - I haven't seen him to judge but anyone I speak to have only positives to say about him}

I watched Shaktar playing in the champions league to see what the hype about Willian was and Mkhytaryan stood out much more. At the time he looked like he panicked in front of goal a bit but with the stats saying 25 goals i'm guessing he has improved. He is the one player I hoped we signed in January so hopefully we get him. Trust me he is brilliant.

I don't rate him at all!

05 Jun 2013 15:08:12
Heard a rumour (not very reliable. but sometimes spot on) that Suariz has submitted the transfer request and that LFC have accepted it but with conditions attached, which the Suarez camp have accepted.
Any news on the above if true? and what would the conditions atteached be?
Thanks Eds. {Ed052's Note - nothing on that}

05 Jun 2013 14:47:35
hi ed mate just want to appreciate your work u guys have been doing I have a question for u do u think the club should sign two players wit suarez s money ie one wide player and a central striker
thanks appreciate your reply {Ed052's Note - yes, but I'd be happy with Aspas as a St}

05 Jun 2013 14:37:07
Is it true that arsenal have agreed a pre-contract to sign David Villa? {Ed052's Note - wrong site...}

05 Jun 2013 14:25:48
Good day Eds and Reds

Found an article stating within that we signed Iago Aspas last week.

Great site, keep up the good work

SuperDuperSuarez {Ed052's Note - where have you been for the last week?}

He is a done deal then? Nowhere else has stated that this deal is complete.

SuperDuperSuarez {Ed023's Note - Fee was agreed}

05 Jun 2013 14:21:52
Thanks

IMH {Ed052's Note - repeat posts will be deleted, perhaps that's why it didn't come up-}

05 Jun 2013 14:16:22
is there any chance of defoe ed? he's quality and experienced

cheers {Ed052's Note - no}

05 Jun 2013 13:53:32
Anything developments on Luis Alberto?

05 Jun 2013 13:28:56
Dan

I seen rumours flying around today one that caught my eye luis Suarez in swop deal robben and Gomez for Suarez now me I'd take it and then we have 2 new stars any truth?

05 Jun 2013 14:56:43
Gomez is worst then benteke for our systeam, we need quick flair striker who can play anywhere in our front three, not donkeys!

05 Jun 2013 13:20:33
Hi Edds

Just reading about players in the French League. Besides the popular youngsters that get mentioned, was wondering if you heard of the following players and if they are any good.

And has there been any interest shown by Liverpool or any EPL teams in them?

1. in Samuel Umtiti of Lyon,

2. in Remy Cabella of Ajaccio

3. in Florian Thauvin of SC Bastia

4. in Lucas Mendes of Marseille

Thanks
YNWA-SA {Ed052's Note - no interest from us in any of those}

Cabella plays for Montpellier not Ajaccio

05 Jun 2013 12:42:14
not that I don't think Mkhritryan is good, but from watching videos many of his goals are largely open goals! not that they don't all count but I perhaps need to see more of him. I heard someone say he was the 'perfect' replacement for gerrard. does he track back? Personally I think we need to stop talking about suarez and just wash are hands with him. However we will do extremely well to replace him. I honestly have no idea how we can. its incredible to believe how someone who can misses so many chance it still 1 of the best strikers in the world!

Danny

Poachers goals my friend.
derryred

I agree with derryred.
What I've seen in clips his goal are poacher goals. More importantly, for a lot of them he seems to have the knack of finding space in the box.

Frank Lampard springs to mind. Its the arriving in the box at the right time to score the goals that counts.

05 Jun 2013 12:13:10
Maybe the club should bring the New Kits out mid season
Then some on here would be Too Busy Criticising the Players
To be bothered by a bleeding football kit!

Lyndon

I'd like to complain about the people who complain about the people who complain about the ugly 2nd and 3rd kits, which are extremely ugly kits, by the way.

Tiresome John {Ed023's Note - Opinion arguments are the worst}

05 Jun 2013 12:07:31
If the undignified Suarez is relieved of his duties I am reliably informed that LFC will look to purchase both Henrikh Mkhitaryan and Alexis Sanchez, note another 1st team central striker is not on the agenda.

This is to allow Sturridge and Aspas to challenge one another to spear head the attack.

Mkhitaryan will predominantly be used in the no. 10 role, however he will be challenged by Philippe "the magician" Coutinho although the magician maybe pushed wide left if Mkhitaryan is excellent from the off.

Sanchez will predominantly be used in the right wing/forward role; however he will be challenged by either Aspas or Sturridge dependent upon who leads the line / form / injury.

Sterling / Ibe will challenge each other as back-up on the left wing/forward role; they will initially be used on only an intermitted basis, however they will have their chances to cement the role as their own.

Nevertheless the attack behind the main striker will be as fluid as the Nile, with positions only being used when retreating in to a defensive shape.

The impending window will inevitably beckon a new attacking era at LFC with a level of imperishable depth and relentless ferocity that has not been seen since the 80's.

Cheers
The Soliloquy

In my opinion, your post should have either started or ended with the words ''In my opinion. ''

Hope so. Also hope Morgan and Yesil get cup games and some EPL minutes.
I'd also like to see Downing stay. He started to turn a corner last season and is good to have amongst the squad. He works hard to play games. Good professional.

It does seem all to be looking toward a more fluid attack style with more points to trouble defenses. I'm excited personally at the prospects as well of many capable/technical players that are interchangeable. I'd prefer Coutinho more central in the 10, Mkhitaryan could offer more pace in wider areas.

Or when Roy Evans managed us

05 Jun 2013 11:54:40
defence johnson, kelly, toure, agger, enrique 2 new players. midfield allen, gerrard, coutinho, lucas, henderson, 1 player. attack downing, borini, sturiddge, sterling, SUAREZ. 1 player youngsters suso/ibe. skrtl/assaidi/coates, carroll, shelvey, spearing will proberly leave and generate around 35 mil and free up wages. with 35mil we should be able to buy 2 defenders and 1 midfielder. from the budget we can buy a striker/winger. if suarez were to leave he should be replaced with 1 player no matter what money we recieve from his sale. and we have suso/ibe/mclaughlin ect ect coming trough. we don't need more players we will be playing for top 4 next season and the cups will be extra. since january we have played some good football with out skrtl, assaidi, coates, carroll, shelvey, we need to add class to what we already have. next season top 3/4 the following season we will play for the league I am 100% sure. {Ed052's Note -

05 Jun 2013 15:37:01
If it was that easy we wouldn't be struggling for years, footy is not that simple and easy, everytime when you fix something other hand something is broken, we all were saying we just needed 1-2 player but look now how fast things have changed and we are looking at 4-5 players and ready to replace one of our best player!

05 Jun 2013 11:52:14
I wish people would open their eyes a little!

Agger - There's on way on this earth, he will be leaving us this summer, he loves the club, people have short memories, look at last year, all the talk about him going (though I admit I thought he was going to) he then went and got the tattoos.

No matter what he is offered, I think his hearts at Liverpool, he knows big things are coming!

Also sick to death of hearing about Suarez, I've got to the point now of thinking. Suarez. who? this guy doesn't wanna play at Liverpool, I don't hate him for that, In fact I can't blame the guy! but its gone its going to happen now let's leave it alone.

I do have a quick question, I read somewhere a few weeks back about Lucas leaving, was probably nothing. but any truth to this eds/all?

He didn't have the best of seasons due to injurys etc, and didn't look fantastic on the pitch, but I certainly wouldn't like to see him leave personally, I feel he can jump back next season and show people what he's really capable of, I believe we've got a bit of a star there!

Coutinho - this guy excites me, yet worries me! I can't help thinking that should we not get CL:F next season, if his form is like how it has been, many big teams will become interested and he will leave! i'd be gutted to see him go, alright we'll probably make a **** load of money on him but not the point is it! let's hope he ends up been another Agger and wants to keep with us!

Finally. Carroll - who does this guy think he is, now wanting 100k pw, wouldn't mind if he was good! but that's the whole point, he's simply not good! anyway I'll shut up. just my thoughts on everything! :)

Have a good day/week to all & Eds

05 Jun 2013 13:02:46
Mate Liverpool last year actually tried to force agger to city, but he was adamant not to leave, again monaco have lots of money they can easily turn Liverpool/Rodgers head, if they bid crazy money like 23-28M then Liverpool will do everything in their power to sell him.

Just shows you how far we have dropped when if a player has good season bigger clubs will come in for him - oh how the mighty have fallen.

When Ronaldo had a good season clubs came for him. When we were top of everything we still had to guard our players from other clubs taking them, and not always successfully. Your point makes no sense mate (3rd poster) - Ronaldo left United, Real Madrid have consistently high player turnover etc

05 Jun 2013 15:16:55
The mighty have fallen for years now, its just some fans are realising now and some will realise next season when we don't achieve top4, its more then 6 years, we last played in champions league, its almost 25 years we last won our league title, its very, very sad to see how Liverpool have been struggling which I never thought even in dreams, but now that's reality and I have already accepted midtable, so not worried who leaves or who comes.

05 Jun 2013 11:38:23
We are getting left behind so we may as well accept thT we won't the league for another few years.

So. we need to get rid of all the players that want out and just focus on the younger lads and promote scouse lads into the team. The sort that would play through a brick wall for the cause, whose hearts bleed LFC.

Local born players, that's what we need to focus on from now on and get rid of all the players that are here for the money.

Have accepted we are now a midtable mediocre team without the finances to match other teams.

This is 'Being Liverpool'.


M

99% of modern day footballers are purely in it for the money and lifestyle fella, so regardless of where there from you will never get modern day footballers who would run through brick walls for the team. A good example would be Rooney, there whole family are Blues through and through and look what he did!

Waro

I bet this is music to wee Jays ears!

There's no substittute for skill on a football field.
Workrate. Pace, Power, 100% Commitment can all be undone by one sublime piece of skill.
That's why Rodgers is on the right track he's trying to bring in players with all those qualities but most importantly Skill!

05 Jun 2013 13:28:03
If you listen really carefully guys, you can hear distant screams as M slices his wrists upon a jagged blade.

Dude lighten up! We are not midtable, we are not mediocre, we will challenge for honours on a regular basis again soon. The club is making strides forward and even if we just continue to go up by one league place each year, in 5 years we'll win the league. In 2 years we'll be back in the CL.

I think you will see an accelerated success rate though and anticipate a 4th place finish next season, and then top 2 the following. With silly signings like Navas, City will start to drop off (seriously, so gald we turned away at that asking price!). There owners won't stay round for much longer, and the bubble will burst. United are on the brink of a spiral into what we've juist been through the last 20 years (to think they will disapear completely is naive, but they will not dominate for years now, if ever again). Arsenal aer close to losing Wenger, and like it or not, that man is a phenominal manager. Chelsea and Liverpool are on the up. Spurs look to have hit a ceiling and haven't really made any great strides forward for 3 years despite spending hundreds of millions of pounds.

Of course all the above predictions could be wrong, and Liverpool might fade into Europa league spot contenders, but I would like my glass to be half full, not empty.

Heres my top 6 prediction for next year, and then the following:

2013/14
1. Chelsea - Mourinho
2. City - Pellegrini
3. United - Moyes
4. Liverpool - Rodgers
5. Arsenal - Wenger
6. Spurs - AVB

2014/15
1. Chelsea - Mourinho
2. Liverpool - Rodgers
3. City - New Manager (Pelegrini will be sacked by Xmas 2014)
4. United - Moyes
5. Spurs - AVB
6. Arsenal - New manager (Wenger will go to P$G Summer 2014)

I will likely be wrong, but this is genuinely what I am predicting.

Dont be saying things like that befor the season has started. rogers no, s 4th is the least or he could be out of a job

05 Jun 2013 15:45:36
If we don't finish top4 next season, then the american owners will really start questioning rodgers.

05 Jun 2013 11:25:12
Are Warrior a fan of Space Invaders by any chance?

Why didn't they give the fans a chance of designing the kit. could of come up with something better than that pile of crap.

Or magic eye pictures?

Crowman.

05 Jun 2013 11:18:08
Instead of discussing the sex of 02

The away kit

And whether suarez is a bad boy for wanting to leave
(take it as red (pun) suarez is gone)

How about we get back to football?

05 Jun 2013 11:06:04
Hey Ed's
I was wondering who would be the better buy for Liverpool, BR is interested in both mhkitryan and lamela, lamela is younger showing promise but mhkitryan has proven himself top goalscorer in ukraine {Ed001's Note - Lamela would cost a lot more and his ownership is unclear, which is why no move has yet been made for him. It is extremely complicated, which is why Southampton leapt in, they see an opportunity to sign someone that would otherwise be off to Man City, Chelsea, Bayern etc in the summer. If it can be sorted easily, he will end up at one of the big spenders, if not then he will get to choose between staying there or heading to Southampton, if even they can get the ownership issues sorted. I really don't see us getting involved.}

05 Jun 2013 10:32:04
I don't care what anyone says but Mkytarian is not the answer. His first touch and all round play is poor! He is good in front of goal but I don't think Liverpool should move for him. Eriksen would be cheaper and better in my opinion.

Outs: Carroll 15m
Suarez 50m
Borini p/e
Downing 8m
Assaidi 2m
Shelvey 6m
Spearing 2m
Coates 3m
Carra
Skrtel 12m

Targets: Toure
Papa 15m
Gustavo 8m
Alberto 6m
Eriksen 13m
Aspas 8m
Lamela 16+borini
Muriel 17m

Great!

When can we have it?

The problem is that Eriksen doesn't want to come unfortunately so you can only sign players who actually want to come, bit of a bummer I know, but there you go!
John Wigan

05 Jun 2013 15:33:19
He scored more goals than Lamela, Muriel and Erikson combined. He scored more than Suarez and is a midfielder, if you had seen his play you wouldn't say his first touch was poor but is evident it is class. I guess he doesn't get the exposure of video games like the others though. TBF he has no champions league experiance unlike Lamela and Muriel, wait my bad he does.

I highly doubt anyone seen much of these guys play only youtube and websites!!

What a load of cobblers MK is a touch above Erikson and proven goal scorer on either foot as is Aspas both would be quality additions across the front 3.

05 Jun 2013 10:10:09
What ever happened to our great supporters? It just seems now that all you do is whine about everything and anything, its either the players, the manager, the Anfield atmosphere, and now it's the kit!

People like to whine about out I like it, it will probably grow on a lot of people.

05 Jun 2013 09:59:38
Hey eds
Is Mkhitaryan only got chances of happing if Suarez leaves? {Ed052's Note - no, I dont believe so. I no longer think we can say 'if' he goes anymore. It is a mattef of 'when'}

05 Jun 2013 09:57:02
Hi Eds,

First post, so please go easy!

Just seen on the tv website that Munich might offer Robben in px for Suarez. I know they were linked a few weeks back due to the 'Pere/Pep' link (although could have just been lazy journalism!), and the story originates from the s*n, but can you see any merit in it?

If so, what would be your realistic valuation of Robben based on his age and contract length?

I've actually always liked him, going right back to his Chelsea days, and as he is an attacking winger, he would fit quite nicely into a front 3 supporting someone like Sturridge. Would definitely mean that we could let Downing go (perhaps as makeweight for Benteke?) and then use Ibe/Sterling more along with any other younger/support wingers we pick up.

Thanks

Z

05 Jun 2013 09:24:19
Hi Eds! Love the site, frequently on here to check what's happening. I live in Germany and the German paper Focus (credible paper) is reporting that there could be a swap on the cards: Suarez to Bayern with Robben going the other way. Have you heard anything about this? Thanks in advance! {Ed052's Note - no, and I dont see it happeninv. Robben wouldn't want to come, we wouldn't want him, wages would be silly and he is old. }

Well said ed52 and I really hope you are right.

05 Jun 2013 08:48:35
The three constants I've noticed every year.

Everyone hates the new kits, everyone moans why we don't get this 'world beater' who turns out rubbish Chamakh, sig, dempsey and our fans find something new to moan about.

05 Jun 2013 08:35:06
ed, s you have any info on this guy Erik Lamela to lfc {Ed052's Note - ye, he won't be comibg}

05 Jun 2013 07:55:05
eds is it true that we have agreed a fee of 22 mil for Henrikh Mkhitaryan also even if there hasn't is there intrest?

rocky the red {Ed052's Note - I know we are interested in him and he would be interested in us. I don't know whether a fee has been agreed or not yet. }

Eriksen is a much better and cheaper option!

05 Jun 2013 01:43:13
Eds do you rate Mkhitaryan and would he cut it in the Premier League?

Thanks {Ed052's Note - Ed30 is profiling him now. I know little of him apart from he has hugely impressed a lot of people}

Great I look forward to it. Thanks

Look up some of his matches on youtube by searching Mkyitarian v.

I think he has a poor first touch and all round play is very poor. Top finisher though and runs beyond the opposition a lot. He would complement coutinho but he wouldn't be my pick at that price. I'd rather Eriksen and get a striker like Muriel who could replace Suarez.

05 Jun 2013 06:12:41
Away Kit:

I think it's good to have something that nobody else will think of.

I'm obviously in the minority here, But, it's a pretty cool kit.

Red7.

Table for one sir?

Same here I rather like it

Waltonred

I read all the abuse of the new kit on here and was expecting the worse, but just seen them in JD sports and thought they're not that bad in fact I bought my grandson the home kit. Don't really like the flashes or whatever on the away kit but don't think it's as bad as some are making out, but then you can't please all of the people all of the time. especially on this site.


Dav

05 Jun 2013 13:23:58
Massive case of the loud minority and silent majority. Most things nowadays people don't compliment but complain. 100 moaning fans do not represent the millions of fans and people who will buy the kits.

I think they look really good

05 Jun 2013 04:32:09
I know you don't like getting into numbers, but can you inform us if there really is a set budget? Some of the numbers being thrown around seem a bit crazy considering most thought we wouldn't have a lot to spend. And as of now no players have officially agreed deals to leave so we could still have many of the "sell" category players most list still on the books next season.

05 Jun 2013 02:08:18
Eds maybe not Liverpool related, but what's the latest on Salomon Rondon? Looked lively in the qualifier against Colombia. Is he settled in Russia or are clubs interested in signing him now? Thanks. {Ed001's Note - no idea, not heard anything regarding him.}

05 Jun 2013 03:04:57
Hi eds and keep up the good work.

This is message to all of the people who think Agger will leave. Last summer we all know what happened and even if he moves it will be for madrid or barca so monaco is not an option.

Aneesh LFC

05 Jun 2013 00:36:31
Eds, Is it bad that I actually like the new away kit? LOL I think I'm going to be told to get my head checked.

Irish redman

Your not alone mate I like it too, and really don't understand why!

I take it Ronnie Corbett was available to model the new away kit then! I swear I remember him wearing it during one of his monologues on "The Two Ronnies".

Weyland Yutani

I also happen to like it. It is different to conventional designs and if we win as many away games wearing it the better it will be.

Yes its bad. I personally can't stand the kit but took another look after a previous post. If they had gotten rid of all the crazy diamond pattern in the midsection it wouldn't be a half bad kit. But as is, it is an embarassment to LFC. The 3rd kit (rumoured) is atrocious too.

05 Jun 2013 00:10:32
I have a theory on why our away strip is so ghastly, I believe it has been made out of spite!
When we decided to leave Adidas (they claimed they left us as we couldn't match their ambition or something) the final shirt they made was that god awful blue and white one.

Now warrior know that they won't make their money back that they invested so they have purposefully gone out of their way to make this monstrosity!

Stupid theory#
I like em!
MikeyD

Talk about over paranoid guff. Please mate take your over paranoid bs elsewhere please.

So you're saying our club with a global fanbase doesn't match Warrior Sports' ambition? Who even heard of them before they started producing our kits (besides hockey players)?

Really?
I really doubt a company this size would be so petty.

I think it will improve our away points tally. Other teams will be laughing and taking the P so much we can sneak a win

You should be on the conspiracy website!

You realise it was a joke don't you?

What the strange looking pattern on the away shirt is meant to be is a flame. There was such backlash last season when the flames were moved that they decided to make a flame design on the front of one of the kits.

Ashy,

Im not a fan of the kits at all but I don't put any stock in your theory. Warrior is a buisness and is trying to draw more clubs (they only have us and Sevilla right now if i'm not mistaken) so why would they hurt their brand on purpose? They Wouldnt. Someone just royally screwed up in designing these (Away/3rd) kits and noone at LFC had the brains to say "no, try again"

And the no named poster who replied about ambition clearly didn't read the original post.