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06 Jul 2014 23:10:58
Hi Edds so looks like the Suarez deal with barca is goig through but are we going to be getting Sanchez in the deal or any other player
{Ed007's Note - Read through the posts mate, it will have been answered somewhere.}
06 Jul 2014 23:42:34
Looks to be straight cash.
06 Jul 2014 23:00:29
Hi Eds,
Any interest remaining in James Rodriguez? I know that we had interest back in May but also aware his recent performances have pushed his price way up & RM are pursuing him. Great player, would love to splash some of the Suarez cash on him!
{Ed002's Note - Liverpool have shown no interest.}
Hopefully we change that over the next few weeks!
Are you going to help fund the move?
06 Jul 2014 22:53:12
Ed's, two quick questios. 1) surely we're not genuinely interested in Ashley Cole. Huge wages 33 yeard old best years certainly behind him? 2) would never happen but I have to ask, have we shown any interest in James Rodriguez? Young and a great talent. Would be worth spending a large chunk of the Suarez money on him. What clubs are actually interested in him?
{Ed002's Note - (1) Not that I am aware. (2) Real Madrid.}
06 Jul 2014 22:39:52
A lot of hard work clearly going on behind the scenes. Despite Suarez leaving, exciting times.
Liverpool FC always make stars, Markovic could be the next. If anyone can bring out his full potential it will be Rodgers. His pace alone will scare defences. He's young, finishing will improve with time, don't worry.
I'm sick of hearing his name, but a young Luis Suarez came to LFC with a distinct lack of end product. You could see he had ability, Markovic will need time.
I agree about Liverpool but Suarez lacking end product before he became a red? really? 111 goals in 159 appearances in all competitions. that's a pretty good end product if you ask me haha
Suarez had a phenomenal goal scoring season just before joining us.
06 Jul 2014 23:03:32
Suarez scored more than 100 goals for Ajax from 2007 to January 2011. That is not even close to a "distinct lack of end product" man. I too like Markovic and think he will be a good signing, but you are just posting drivel right there.
Suarez was extremely wasteful, he was prolific in Holland no doubt when you look at his record. But in his first season and a half, he missed several opportunities in games.
Jozy Altidore had a good record in the Dutch league scoring 39 goals in 67 games. For Sunderland he has scored 1 goal in 30.
You guys still think Jozy is a good finisher? None of you think he's lacking?
Suarez improved his finishing massively. And he had to, to be prolific in the premier league.
06 Jul 2014 23:10:22
AM, Suarez, was breaking records in goal scoring before coming to LFC.
I even recall Suarez himself admitting his finishing whilst at Ajax wasn't great. With the ball often spilling under the goalkeeper etc. The dutch league isn't a great one. However, his record was good.
How I should of worded it was that he had the ability, but it took him a while to find it when he arrived at anfield. He certainly improved his finishing massively, but he was very wasteful at first. And often, his end product was very poor.
What I'm saying is that could of been him adjusting to the league etc Markovic will need the same before he gets slated by fans
06 Jul 2014 23:43:53
I think you're confusing his 1st full season with us & his exploits with Ajax. He has always had 'end product'.
He had a great goal record at previous clubs but was also renowned for wayward shooting.
He was prolific in Holland, but he was regarded as very wasteful also. His assists were what he was even more famous for, I think. So I get what your saying am.
BR and his fluid system created the beast that Suarez is today. He was a very good player when he came here. Now, he is beast-status due to BR`s astute tactics and scheme. He`s always been wasteful and that IMO, will continue but he will have ample opportunities to score due to the chances Barca will create.
In his first year only Ronaldo had more shots than suarez (227 for Ron and 204 for Luis) of those shots less than 50% were on target and only 4% of those on target actually found the bank of the net. Skrtle actually had a higher shots to goals ratio than suarez in his first year. He was literally the most wasteful player in Europe.
By your maths Suarez got 4 goals in his first season. seems a little off.
07 Jul 2014 09:38:50
Shanek, I take it maths is not your strong point? That is not what Nevada said at all.
"Beast status", I reckon Chiellini would agree with you there.
07 Jul 2014 10:16:29
Shanek that's a clanger, mate!
06 Jul 2014 22:41:50
Eds
With the advances on Markovic and Origi, would you say that the chances of Sanchez are pretty much dead in the water?
{Ed002's Note - RTFP.}
06 Jul 2014 22:38:56
Heard Rodgers went to Quazer-Lazer recently, he had such a good time he's decided to buy the real thing. :D
06 Jul 2014 22:33:01
People need to stop worrying about finding a 'replacement' for Suarez. He was the joint top scorer in Europe, and miles ahead of others in the EPL. We can't directly replace him. What we can do is bring in players who will 1) chip in with goals and 2) form a better defence than last season. Chelsea got 3rd without a prolific scorer, we don't need him if we sort out the defence.
But do we really want to play as Chelsea? can't stand to watch more then 5 minutes of their games.
The only players who could maybe replicate Suarez's goal creation of last season are Messi and Robben. Irreplaceable.
But yeah, LFC need a better balance of attack and defence to be champions.
Erm we have Sturridge who got 21 goals, second top scorer and 35 in 49 PL games for us until now. I think that is plenty prolific.
Good point, Hyach! We seem to forget that we still have a 20 goal forward in Studge who is quite lethal along w/ Lambert who has been lethal everywhere he`s been. We CANNOT replace Suarez, the player. We can however, create a style that allows the team to score goals from anywhere in the attacking third which IMO, will be the key.
07 Jul 2014 07:19:31
. Torres, then Suarez. then whoever's next. it goes on, maybe this could be best opportunity for players such as Sturrige, Sterling, and others to take the helm.
An exciting season awaits.
06 Jul 2014 22:31:36
Ed are Liverpool interested in any Manchester City players?
{Ed002's Note - Not that I am aware.}
06 Jul 2014 21:56:09
BBC reporting Origi deal done and Markovic is next on the list, seems there is some legs in this lot of rumours then
YNWA JFT96
My understanding is that we have agreed a fee but have not yet discussed personal terms.
I am also aware that Real will lodge a bid in the coming few days and try to get the lad to sign for them.
This deal is far from complete.
vrcomp
Y.N.W.A.
06 Jul 2014 21:47:17
"The Reds reportedly made a bid of around £19.8million on Saturday night which was accepted by Benfica, although there has been no official confirmation from either club.
Chelsea reportedly have an option to match Liverpool's bid for the 20-year-old Serbia international, but they have apparently shown no interest at this stage.
Markovic, who has made 12 appearances for Serbia, joined Benfica from Partizan Belgrade just over a year ago and made a big impression last season.
If he moves to Anfield he will join Rickie Lambert, Adam Lallana and Emre Can as new arrivals at the club this summer as speculation grows that Luis Suarez will leave for Barcelona."
Starting to get excited about the prospect of Markovic on the left side of our midfield. I still think we need a more regular goal scorer but Markovic could go on to be a world beater and there's no doubt he'll improve under Rodgers. Ed001 can Sky be trusted here, and is it likely that Chelsea pay the fee just to protect a potential asset?
{Ed002's Note - This statement is not entirely accurate. Chelsea were not looking to take Markovic this summer. If a bid has been accepted by Benfica they will discuss the matter with Chelsea.}
So if this report is true it will come down to wether Chelsea decide to take the player I'm guessing?
Can you explain the situation with markovic and Chelsea? How exactly do they own part of him or whatever this is!
{Ed002's Note - I am not getting in to this again.}
07 Jul 2014 06:59:20
Chelsea have an option to buy the player at a lower price.
{Ed002's Note - The situation remains that Chelsea do not see the player as ready for the EPL yet.}
But were they correct in the sense that Chelsea aren't interested and would therefore allow a transfer (if a fee were to be agreed upon, as they are saying)? Have we moved to that point in discussions or is it all paper talk?
{Ed002's Note - See above.}
07 Jul 2014 08:15:32
Ed002 do you think that Chelsea will buy him outright?
Cheers
{Ed002's Note - What I think about this is really of no relevance. I have explained my understanding of where Chelsea stand with this right now. I suspect the decision will be one Mr Mourinho makes on his own.}
06 Jul 2014 21:40:13
Hello everyone, sunderland fan here
Would just like to find out what you think on the Borini situation, he wants to have a place in the Liverpool team but from a neutrals view it looks very unlikely with all of the attacking players you have and are looking to sign
So will he stay at Liverpool or is he going
Cheers
06 Jul 2014 22:09:58
I think he will stay and fight by choice.
I would say he needs to leave, he has benefitted from getting regular football, something he won't get with us, or if he will go on loan again and see how he progresses.personally I don't think he will make a top level striker, but what do I know
06 Jul 2014 22:36:13
He's still young and good enough to really cement his place in the team.
There's many competitions this season and Borrini will shine I'm sure
06 Jul 2014 23:46:16
Rodgers seems to like the lad. He is determined to prove himself, it's not completely out of the question however as Sunderland are definitely keen.
What do Sunderland fans think of him as a player generally?
Give us £12M and we'll throw in Aspas and Reina.
Personally, i'd give him another season as he seems really keen on proving himself here.
07 Jul 2014 07:00:21
I would have thought he would leave, but now with Suarez as good as gone and Sanchez no longer an option, I can see him staying for atleast another year.
06 Jul 2014 21:31:17
Would be so pleased if Markovic signs in the near future. Looks like a top class player and a future star. Also a steal for only £19.8m if that is correct. Similar player to Sterling so those 2 on either wing would be fast and agile, making Sturridges job easier ;-)
06 Jul 2014 21:20:52
Eds do you expect lovern to sign? Thanks
{Ed002's Note - If Liverpool make an acceptable offer then there is a chance.}
They have made an acceptable offer (apparently).
Putting things into perspective, I'm sure that overall Southampton would be happy raking in fifty million for three players.
He would be worth less if other clubs bid.
{Ed002's Note - Liverpool has not yet made an acceptable offer.}
06 Jul 2014 22:59:08
Don't think we need another offer. It will end up like the Lallana situation.
06 Jul 2014 23:48:46
We obviously haven't made an acceptable offer Davey as it hasn't been accepted. The player seems pissed off that it was rejected, but I have to say I feel for Southampton here. Fans must be consistent in their opinions, I am concerned at Lovren's comments against Southampton and feel that they were disrespectful to the fans. It wasn't nice reading that about Suarez last year, and I really understand how they must be feeling right now.
07 Jul 2014 07:01:18
Acceptable Offer to Southampton Davey.
06 Jul 2014 21:17:26
Hi Eds,
We've already signed 3 players and are looking to sign 4 more? (Origi, cb lb and winger) With origi probably going back on loan that's 6 new players (and maybe a goal keeper too). Do you not think that that's a lot of players for one window?
Thanks
Alot of magic.money it appears, a lot is being spent
Same as every summer. Of course we could always sell Suarez and sit on the money for a year?! Not sure what the old Griffin Savers Account pays in interest these days but we could make a few bob on that 63m.
06 Jul 2014 22:03:30
My concern was more so about bedding in 6 or 7 players into a team that were already playing well rather than any concerns about money
Well there will only be 3 starters on average I'd say. loveren lallana and winger/lb with a much stronger bench. lallana and loveren I think will slot in no problems it's just players like Moreno/Rojo/ markovic that might need time bedding in but we have players to do a job if they start slow! Wouldn't be too worried lads!
I agree with you. It is a lot of players to bed in. However we are in an ideal position to take on top players, which we may not be in next season.
I see your point and I said the exact same thing about spurs pre last season and got flammed by people saying I was stupid to suggest they would struggle.
however, we have to remember we are in more competitions this season and we will need to rotate players so not sure it will be heavy influx the new numbers may suggest
I am happy that these players are coming in quick so Brendan can bed all the new faces at the start of pre season and be ready to go for August
Spuds relied on Bale 100%.
When he went they basically had to rip it up and start again. It failed.
We don't rely on Suarez. So there's your difference.
06 Jul 2014 21:14:57
Hey eds, long time reader, first time poster. Thanks for all your hard work guys we all really appreciate it. Just curious about all the wingers we are linked with, (i know we seem to get linked with every player under the sun it seems) but for instance, Markovic, Shaqiri etc, Would you feel we would be getting one or the other? Or do you think we would be going for both players? Or is it simply just interest in both players at this time?
{Ed002's Note - The players have been of interest to Liverpool.}
06 Jul 2014 20:49:00
Hi Eds,
Are LFC looking for a direct replacement for Stevie G?
Also any info on Memphis Depay and Shaqiri?
06 Jul 2014 21:24:04
I would say Emre Can is that man, and let's not forget about Rossiter
The little I've seen of Depay - he looks average!
He is 18 Mr. T. I agree however as we need a player who will have a more instant impact than Depay.
Depay would be a v.good buy IMO. He's 20 y.o. fast as hell, excellent dribbler and passer.
Either him or Shaqiri for me, will be top drawer
06 Jul 2014 23:51:33
Emre Can is highly thought of. I watched a lot of the Bundesliga last year and I have to say that the matches he played in midfield he reminded me a lot of Stevie. He is a very powerful runner, not necessarily fast, but neither is/was Gerrard. He can also play pretty much across midfield, like Gerrard used to be able to, as a 10, on the wing, holding, box-to-box. I am a big fan of his.
Depay is good but even at 18-20 I think to be the next gerrard he would already be different class.
Do you remember Gerrards first match? He looked like a match winner
06 Jul 2014 20:58:55
Anyone know if the reports are true that we are going back in for Sanchez with a £150,000 a week deal? Would still love this to come off.
Otherwise what other options are out there? For me I'd like us to try and go for one of the below as alternative.
1) Isco.
If we can't get Sanchez I'd love us to try for Isco. Not the kind of player but he has so much potential. He may cost high fee but he's stil young and I think he'd suit our style.
2) A. Greizeman.
Another young talent who is also versatile and can score goals. Again his fee would be high but he suits our style also.
3) J. Iturbe.
Not seen very much of this player to be honest but apparently a very good prospect. Also young and versatile and fee would be roughly the same as the other two.
4) A. Yarmalenko.
His club have apparently lowered his fee and could be worth a punt for right price. Seems good and strong with skill and pace, and with Suarez fee affordable.
5) Y. Konoplyanka.
A player we almost signed in January and seems a good player. Available for roughly 10 million he would be worth the risk.
6) E. Lavezzi.
Seems far fetched but for a reasonable fee he's one the closest players to Suarez around. If available for a reasonable amount I'd take him.
So even if we don't get Sanchez there is still an abundance of talent available for us and with the fee we receive for Suarez we could even afford one or two of them.
06 Jul 2014 21:14:07
None seems happening.
Would love to get in Konoplayanka.
Markovich, Shaqiri, Origi & Huntelaar is where it's at currently. None of the players on your list are even remotely likely.
06 Jul 2014 21:28:57
I don't get why we ain't gone back for kono, no brainer in my mind I don't rate iturbe to be honest from what I've seen, I'd give texiera a chance before signing Isco griezeman looks great to to be honest don't think we have internet though
06 Jul 2014 20:51:43
Y do we need to buy Origi, If We have some serious plans to keep Borini for the next 3-4 Years. Borini is 22.
Maybe he is a better prospect, with a view to keep him at the club for a very long time?
Borini has to prove himself. Origi is more about a plan beyond Lamberts two years. Origi is very highly rated.
06 Jul 2014 21:46:52
Whaaaaaaaat. Borini has to prove himself all over again this season.
At this rate he would never establish himself with the club.
Of course he has to prove himself H. He doesn't get a free pass because he runs around a lot.
06 Jul 2014 20:49:00
Hi Eds,
Are LFC looking for a direct replacement for Stevie G?
Also any info on Memphis Depay and Shaqiri?
{Ed002's Note - There is nothing new.}
06 Jul 2014 20:44:33
to edds and other posters what do u think markovic can bring to the team what are his quality's and position only ask because no nothing of him cheers
He's bloody quick
06 Jul 2014 23:52:42
Agreed Chris.
He reminds me of another legend - Paddy Berger!
Quick, busy, committed capable of flashes of genius but also capable of the odd howler.
Bit of a rough diamond, one for Brendan to work on.
£25m seems a helluva lot of money though.
06 Jul 2014 20:41:29
We as fans have to realise that when Suarez goes we won't be able to replace him. He is such a good player none will match him.
However the money we get will go a long way in strengthening our squad.
We might not win the league but we have a chance of cementing our place in the top 4.
City, Chelsea and Man U have more money and the £75m will let is close the gap for now.
We have some good youth players coming through, Lallana will be a great player for us, sterling will only get better and could be as good as any in a few years.
If we can spend the £75m on 3 up and coming players who want to play at our great club we can only be stronger with the amount of games we will have.
I would love us to sign Sanchez but if he doesn't want to come then we shouldn't sign him.
On the plus side out team mentality, desire to work for one another, togetherness, should all be increased with Suarez's departure. I know that if you only consider his talent that Suarez is essentially irreplaceable but taking into account all the other factors we will be fine. If we manage to pull a few more rabbits out of the hat i.e. Lovren, Markovic then we will be looking very strong for next season.
06 Jul 2014 20:31:34
Keep meaning to ask, was really impressed with the RB from Costa Rica Giancarlo Gonzalez, are any teams looking at him at all, would be better than Johnson right now?
{Ed002's Note - There is no interest that I am aware of.}
06 Jul 2014 21:54:06
Thanks Ed!
06 Jul 2014 20:19:50
Ed, just a question about Markovic. Seeing that he is part owned, do all parties have to be in agreement over his sale price or do Benfica have the final say there? Thanks
{Ed002's Note - The other party will not block a move.}
06 Jul 2014 20:15:51
I remember Ed002 saying that most transfer deals do not include the entire fee up front but rather a combination of an upfront fee, a structured payment plan and appearance/performance clauses.
How do football clubs incorporate these structured deals into their annual reports? If selling do they register the entire fee during one fiscal year and vice versa for buying clubs?
Similarily, for FFP calculations, do structured payments agreed prior to a club being eligible for scrutiny count within their calculations?
Cheers
{Ed002's Note - I have no interest in discussing finances.}
07 Jul 2014 08:14:37
thought i'd get away with it by not including any figures/examples! Cheers Ed002 I'll hunt around online
06 Jul 2014 20:28:19
Sup y'all
I feel that if we get Sanchez as part of any Suarez deal or separate it will be a huge bonus and will show we can attract top top players still.
Markovic I don't know much about but our scouts were right last summer when chasing costa and Willian both had good seasons.
I really hope we get Sanchez but can see us being let down.
Thanks
06 Jul 2014 20:24:20
Shame that the Sanchez links seem to have been severed. Would love to see Liverpool to spend big money on someone for once. I know it's not all about big money signings, but can't help but think we miss a trick when Chelsea, Utd, City and Arsenal all spend £40m+ on players.
06 Jul 2014 20:37:57
It has nothing to do with the money. Its the player wish.
Ozil so your jealous we didn't waste money on ozil haha ok
Ain't about how much you spend but who you spend it on. The £35million we paid out for Carroll compared to the £12million spent on Sturridge are a testament to the importance of picking the right player - the cost is not indicative of their current quality or future success.
Hi guys, seen your replies. You've all picked out bad examples which is fair enough; it's always good to take it to extremes when testing a thesis.
On the other hand, may I point out the signings of players like Aguero, who have all proven to be a success. I know that Suarez has outperformed Aguero (all be it quite possibly just because of Aguero's injury problems), but it creatives a climate that's not conducive of transfer success to Liverpool as players (like Sanchez) don't see us as a big club because they haven't seen us splash the cash.
06 Jul 2014 22:41:41
Exactly, Seano.
I'm not sure "splashing the cash" is a pre-requisite for a top player considering joining us. Its also paradoxical to suggest that we can only attract a top class, expensive player by signing a top class, expensive player - how would that work?
By using Aguero your just using an extreme in the other direction buy hey if you want to play top trumps with good and bad signings I see your Aguero and raise you a Veron.
Im all in with my shevchenko
06 Jul 2014 20:14:12
Just want to say, we don't really have to replace Suarez's 31 goals from last season.
If the defence improves by a dozen or so goals less conceded and the midfielders chip in with a couple more each then you only need to replace about a dozen goals.
Do-able?
Got to agree Chris. We haven't had a front two since 1963 who've scored as many goals. We've won an awful lot of sh*t since then.
The amount of times Suarez loses a ball being almost too direct meant a simple long ball over our high line defence lead to a lot of counter attacks and goals. so I would say that losing Suarez in itself will lead to less goals conceded. just my opinion.
06 Jul 2014 19:28:47
Editors, is Markovic a replacement for Suarez or do you think we have targeted that kind of players even if suarez was staying?
Any idea who Liverpool is looking at to replace Suarez? Is the Madrid late interest on Suarez true?
{Ed001's Note - we were looking for a wide player regardless of Suarez.}
06 Jul 2014 19:40:37
Ed do you have to be 18 to go on loan? Like we couldn't send Harry Wilson on loan could we?
{Ed002's Note - !8. There can be exceptions.}
06 Jul 2014 19:38:38
The Times (Tony Barrett) the telegraph and Portuguese media all saying deal for markovic to be done by the end of the week. I'm not to sure about this signing myself but fingers crossed!
06 Jul 2014 19:34:44
I hope we don't consider lazar markovic as the replacement for luis Suarez. Someone who scored 31 goals last season to someone scored 5 cannot be considered a replacement. There must be a striker in the equation as well, someone who will equate (obviously not entirely) for the goals we will miss without Suarez. It seems we are just going for creative players to cater around sturridge, which won't work out as well as I hope it does. We needed a forward that was similar to suarez in the sense that he scores goals and gets assists on a more regular basis as oppose to someone like markovic. That was sanchez, that will unfortunately not happen, but there are others. It seems were missing a trick here. If we do sign markovic all the best for him and I hope he works out, because he has huge potential. But potential is not what you aim for, from a loss as big as Suarez.
Hes a bloody winger . he's top class by the way
06 Jul 2014 19:57:29
Eds haven't confirmed of any deal for Markovic other than interest. So let's wait what happens.
Its hard to get a striker who would bang in 20-30 goals within our budget.
I think we need to forget about Suarez and replacing him. I don't mean that to sound daft but I wouldn't be at all surprised if BR will not replace him and will take a totally different approach and get lots of versatile front players and wingers.
Just an opinion but you can't replace Suarez so why try.
Spot on Suffolk. If by replacing Suarez people are looking for one player with the ability to score 30 goals, have most assists, work non-stop and strike fear into opponents (in more ways than one) then it isn't going to happen. Rush was "replaced" by Aldridge, Barnes & Beardsley. We did OK despite the justifiable concerns that it would all fall apart.
I think people need to look at how many times a striker has scored 30+ goals in a season; it doesn't happen every season.
There is no guarantee is Suarez stayed that he would hit that next season (especially as Norwich are relegated :o) ).
Also team's will think they know how we are going to play next season (based upon this season); who knows the change may mean we are just as successful.
Scoring 4 or 5 goals a game isn't going to be easy next season - although I sure hope it happens! Therefore defence will just as well be important as attack.
I've heard that Origi is nailed on but that is a loan back for a season.
As things stand we have Lambert, Sturridge and Borini obviously with Suarez going then I think we need a striker or a wide forward who can also play as a striker.
But to be honest if we are rotating those 3 strikers and rotating about 5 or 6 wide forwards do we really need another striker?
Personally I get a bit jittery if you start a season with only 3 strikers as a couple of injuries and bad form and your screwed. hope we see 1 come in.
06 Jul 2014 23:42:39
It's not about replacing him with one player that bangs in 20+ goals. You need to get a wide forward who creates and assists, and a striker who poaches and finishes. When sturridge gets injured (which is an inevitability, you will understand why we need a top class striker).
06 Jul 2014 19:27:16
What do you think of lovren's statement? Will it force Southamptons hand and force them to sell once they find a replacement or will they make him stay at the club?
06 Jul 2014 19:58:42
I think Siants would sell him to us. With Barca looking elsewhere and Roma won't pay that sum for any defender. It has to Liverpool.
Clubs rarely "force" players to stay. Pretty sure if we stump up a bit more money we can get him (providing another team doesn't move for him).
06 Jul 2014 19:08:30
A quick question for the Liverpool Rumours family and the Eds.
Hope reliable is Tony Barrett of the Times?
In the past couple of days he has commented on Origi being a 'done deal' just personal terms to be discussed, he has also just said that we hope to complete the signing of Markovic this week. Not sure, the assumption is well he is a local lad and he writes for the Times so maybe, but could anyone clarify?
Thanks in advance.
One final question for the eds mainly, if or when Suarez leaves, how do the club intend on replacing his goals? I know that we now have a mainly English front line but last season he was involved in about half our goals (not sure of accuracy sorry).
The likes of Shaqiri and Markovic who we are targeting are the interchangeable forwards Brendan Rodgers likes but do you feel they will compensate the void left by Suarez?
Thanks
Ben
06 Jul 2014 20:00:39
Markovic or an advanced midfielder with Shaquiri would be just enough for us.
My pick would be Shaquiri and Firminio.
06 Jul 2014 20:14:53
Tony Barrett, like Tony Evans very rarely get anything right, they are the same as all journalists and make up stories hoping one of them will be right, then they claim a scoop.
06 Jul 2014 20:41:04
John
But the point here is, Eds have confirmed our interest in the player.
Some journalists have sources within the club. Barrett is one of them, I believe, as is Bascombe, and Pierce. They are sometimes used by the club to leak info to the public, I suspect.
That does not mean they can predict what will happen. No-one can. But they don't have to make things up.
Tiger they don't have to make things up but they often do
John B, on the contrary Tony Barrett and Tony Evans I have found to be very good in terms of reliable information about Liverpool.
Each to their own though fella. Each to their own.
06 Jul 2014 19:13:04
When Suarez leaves, we are automatically a weaker team. You cannot lose your best amd worldclass player and be better unless you have a topclass back four and keeper which we don't have.
Sanchez isn't likely atall, and with suarez gone the forward line has lost a lot of goals and that type of player to win the game on his own.
Defensively I will be happy if we.sign lovren but if we sign betrand then I would question BR. We have been.cryi ng about fixing defense for ages so if its not corrected this.summer then there's no excuses. By theend of this window we will have spent a fortune so if the squad is not improved to the next.level then only BR can take the flack. I remember edd002 mentioning a while back questioning BR'S fringe signings of Alberto, aspas, borini etc thãt has amassed to a lot of money that could have been saved as they havnt made any impact. It remains to be seen if BR is learning
I disagree. If we lose Suarez and are able to improve in maybe 4 positions and also have a stronger squad then I think the team can improve. I also think at least 2 out of the back 4 will be improved upon.
I do agree that some of the signings make me a bit nervous but I guess we have to wait and see what happens. He deserves the chance to see what he can do.
06 Jul 2014 19:07:26
Hi guys.
What about Loic Remy as a decent post Suarez addition?
Cheers
Jacqs
06 Jul 2014 20:05:04
He has tonz of pace and is a decent finisher. He had goals last season, Seems available and cheap and want a CL team.
J, he's better than Lambert but limited, I am very worried about how we replace suarez
Good shout, proven at premier league, won't break the bank.
06 Jul 2014 20:44:24
Arsenal had a good look at him. he is a proven player.
He is certainly not like lambert as Remy strength is pace which would suit our counter attacking system.
He seems available at less than 10 mill. I would look at him, If Borini is heading out.
06 Jul 2014 18:56:32
I think we are pretty close to signing of Markovic.
06 Jul 2014 18:35:56
ED01, If you could pass this to the Club scouting team.
If not Sanchez. let's go for Firmino. I have seen this guy. He is a top top prospect. A technically gifted Brazilian. He would erase the pain of Suarez.
He is a natural Goal Scorer.
He has the best ratio on
1. Goals Scored
2.Assist
3. Key Passes
4. Successful tackles
Comparing with HAZARD, REUS, DI-MARIA AND LALLANA.
{Ed001's Note - if I suggest someone, they will rule him out! You know how it works Harry, everyone I talk about gets nowhere near our club. Not sure if they are trying to tell me something or not???}
I wouldn't be too thered what posters say ed, i'm sure your thick skinned. is there any interest in firmino edd. just eluding to the poster here. I think he's top class
{Ed001's Note - he has been considered, but I don't expect him to be a target right now.}
06 Jul 2014 20:07:07
Ed01. Push them for this player.
06 Jul 2014 19:07:26
Hi guys.
What about Loic Remy as a decent post Suarez addition?
Cheers
Jacqs
06 Jul 2014 18:44:57
Eds could Lucas Moura be brought in to Liverpool this summer?
Also would we not look to replace Suarez directly with a striker but instead bring in wingers / attacking midfielders. As we have not been linked with any out and out strikers? I do support our players but it seems to me with Lambert and Borini supporting Sturridge it leaves us slightly short would anyone agree?
{Ed002's Note - Moura has not been of interest. I have explained the players I know to be of interest.}
06 Jul 2014 16:45:25
eds I missed out a player on my last post, that player I would like to ask about is andrija zivkovic, I think he plays for partisan and is 18 another young talented winger could he be an option?
mcarroll92
{Ed002's Note - No.}
06 Jul 2014 16:38:15
hi eds and reds,
hope everyone is well, I have a few questions hopefully these are new questions and not the same old same old,
first of all now that it looks likely that we are to miss out on sanchez even though ssn believe we are likely to gt him as part of the deal for ls on their website, do we have any interest in cuadrado a very impressive player believe he could go some way to helping improve the team again,
next do we hold interest in deandre yedlin I have a seen 2 reports now one says we are offering him a trial the other saying roma look likely to sign him and loan him back to the sounders,
also would we be interested again in the likes of luis Muriel or leandro damiao two very impressive strikers who I think could take the premier league by storm imo.
thanks
Mcarroll92
{Ed002's Note - Try the search engine.}
06 Jul 2014 17:48:19
Cuadrado is pure world cup fever, he's been a very average player in good teams for years. Not a big time signing at all - same with Navas and Ochoa.
Cuadrado is one of the the best, if the the best winger in the Serie A.
You obviously haven't watched Cuadrado mate, last two seasons he's been fantastic.
Cuadrado has been good for a couple of years now, and was Fiorentina's star player last year. Ochoa for years has been the star of his club team and one fan has even attempted to sell his house to pay for a new contract! Ochoa has been excellent for years. Last season was Navas's breakthrough season but statistically he was the best keeper in Europe last season.
I'll admit some of the fans interests are world cup fever but these 3 players are not.
06 Jul 2014 18:47:13
Lorenz Insingne was the best winger last season.
Cuadrado has been good for a couple of years now, and was Fiorentina's star player last year. Ochoa for years has been the star of his club team and one fan has even attempted to sell his house to pay for a new contract! Ochoa has been excellent for years. Last season was Navas's breakthrough season but statistically he was the best keeper in Europe last season.
I'll admit some of the fans interests are world cup fever but these 3 players are not.
06 Jul 2014 18:47:13
Lorenz Insingne was the best winger last season.
06 Jul 2014 16:40:57
Bleacher reporting LFC have signed Markovic. Twitter looks to be the source though - don't know the reliability of said 'tweeter'
Tony Barrett giving us a vague "Liverpool hope to conclude a deal for Markovic in the next week". Doesn't seem like much to me, we have been hoping to conclude a deal for sanchez for a week and that doesn't look like it's going anywhere!
06 Jul 2014 16:30:05
There will be a lot of players leaving the club this summer, most of them didn't play for the club last season so not too much of an impact in terms of unsettling the squad. I expect the below to leave first.
J. Reina. I'de have preferred he took a pay cut and fought for his place with Mignolet but bridges are burnt with Rodgers now. Roughly 3-4 million.
J. Robinson. Seems to have not progressed and therefore the club will allow to leave. Roughly looking at 1-3 million.
S. Coates. Certain to leave this summer I'd say we are looking at 3-5 million if lucky.
M. Skrtle. Gala seem interested which might lift the fee for him. He had a good season so roughly 10-15 million.
D. Agger. A few clubs interested and at 29 like Skrtle would want to play more football. Similar fee too 10-15 million.
O. Assiaidi. Seems certain to leave as no longer in plans. I'd say roughly 4-5 million.
C. Coady. Another youngster who seems to be out. Roughly 2-4 million.
Lucas. If a decent bid is made I think he will leave somewhere in region of 10-15 million I'd say is most likely.
I. Aspas. Certain to leave, Seville supposedly interested so could be used in part of Moreno deal if not 4-5 million.
F. Borini. Another if a good enough bid is received will leave. Roughly 10-12 million.
L. Suarez. Almost gone and don't need to write much. Fee roughly 70-80 million.
That's a significant amount of high earners leaving the club this summer. Others will leave but will be dependant on other arrivals. For example:
B. Jones. If a good keeper to provide competition can be found then I'd expect Jones to leave. Roughly 1 million.
J. Enrique. If we do sign one of Moreno, Rodriguez or Rojo then I expect him to go. Roughly 3-5 million.
K. Toure. Dependant on other arrivals i.e. Lovren and say Ilori playing more regularly then there's a good chance Kolo would be surplus. Free -500,000.
A. Wisdom. Again dependant on Ilori and new arrivals, plus the recovery of Kelly and progression Flanaghan, Wisdom might be surplus. Roughly 3-4 million.
G. Johnson. If a new right back is bought then I think Johnson will go too. We have Flannaghan, Kelly and if another arrived I couldn't see much point in Johnson. Roughly 4-5 million.
Suso. Hopefully he doesn't leave but it seems likely. Roughly 3-5 million.
Still out of all these only five featured for the club in a any way last season.
Optimistically my preferred arrivals would be.
A. Moreno. In all honesty the player I've seen the most of by far out of him Rodriguez and Rojo. 20 million.
D. Lovren. Would be happy if he were to come. 20 million.
X. Shaqiri. Such potential and versatile. Roughly 15-18 million.
A. Sanchez. We all want him. Roughly 25-35 million.
If the above did all leave then there would obviously be more arrivals, but the five above are just my preferred. Montoya would be a great right back option also.
It's weird how football works, reins worth less than assaidi and suso less than Aspas!
This isn't to insult JonesRed in anyway, as it's aimed at everyone who does what I'm going to rant about. So if I cause any offence, I apologise in advance.
Why do people bother posting prices? I know it's cool to show your football knowledge by telling everyone how much you think players are worth but I don't think I've seen one poster say "so and so is worth X million" and it actually come close to the real value the club has set on said player.
For example, everyone was so completely gob-smacked when David Luiz went for a reported 50 million. But that is obviously the price Chelsea set for him and so that is what PSG agreed to pay.
Henderson is another example. I'm not going to sit there and mention any fee because I don't know what it was, but I remember the absolute lambasting he got when he didn't deliver like Xavi or Iniesta.
I agree with hsf - I was of the believe that Assaidi hadn't transfered as we were looking to get nearly double what you have quoted - not saying he is worth that but that's what the club have been asking and why Stoke have not bought him.
Also 1 to 3M for Robinson and 2 to 4 for Coady - I can't see any teams outside the Premier League paying those figures and unfortunately those two players will not be playing Premier League next year.
And the Suarez fee is £59m
I do write repeatedly through it "roughly" and 1-3 for Robinson means 1 million is certainly possible for him even a little more.
I don't state I know fees of players going for its just my rough estimate or from a price the club have put on them.
The post is more about the number of possible sales this summer in comparison to other seasons.
However there are only a small number from the, that played at all last season.
I think ye're being a bit harsh on Jonesred lads. I think he's put a fair price on a lot of our players (Reina, Skrtel (lower end), Assaidi, Lucas, Aspas, Borini, Enrique, Toure, Wisdom) with Suso a complete unknown for me and every other price I would say he has overpriced our players but to say he hasn't even got one right is harsh.
On Robinson and Coady though ya I'd say we'd be doing well to get 500k for Robinson and Coady around 1m.
06 Jul 2014 16:14:17
Banter Please!
This may be a Very odd post, but me and a few of my mates last night (after a few drinks) started Discussing "what jobs" do certain footballers suit doing (if they were not Footballers just by their look/Demeanor) just by their look etc . and some of them had us in stiches, so for example we came to the conclusion, RVP is a Plane Pilot, Flanno is Plumber Apprentice of some sort, Sakho works in Foot locker, Martin o' Neil is a Geography or Maths Teacher, David Villa is a waiter in a Tapas Bar, Sami Khedira is a Tennis coach . etc etc .
Ridiculous I know lads but can you think of better ones? concon
06 Jul 2014 17:31:46
Aaron Lennon: sky installation
Wayne Rooney: dodgy mechanic
Jordan Henderson: pets at home
Daniel sturridge: the cool guy who helps out in schools that the kids look up to
Danny welbeck: semi pro footballer
Bacary Sagna: a sacked hair stylist
Adam lallana: fruit & veg stall
Phil jones: roller coaster tester
Raheem sterling: works in a gym (standing round in a red polo and shorts talking, not really working)
Arsene wenger: wine and cheese dealer
Kolo Toure: B&Q
Joe Allen: carpet installation
John terry: marriage counsellor
Oscar: model for GAP (kids section)
Ashley cole: firearms expert
Fernando Torres: barn door expert (or not)
Victor Moses: unemployed due to laziness
Some brilliant ones there square. However Rooney could be nothing other than a radio DJ with that mug.
06 Jul 2014 18:11:00
Ba! Love it. some top ones there. try it when your watching a boring game with your mates, some that come out range from the ridiculous to the Hilarious
06 Jul 2014 18:23:01
MIKEY listening to him on the radio would be awful haha
06 Jul 2014 18:27:19
That cracked me up square. Henderson at pets at home. Love it.
06 Jul 2014 18:46:15
Wellbeck semi pro. wet myself laughing :0) ha ha haaaaaa
06 Jul 2014 18:53:48
Haha it's a great game to be fair
Genius Square. Need a laugh with a broken leg at the moment and your post had me in stitches!
06 Jul 2014 18:46:15
Wellbeck semi pro. Piss myself laughing :0) ha ha haaaaaa
06 Jul 2014 18:53:48
Haha it's a great game to be fair
Genius Square. Need a laugh with a broken leg at the moment and your post had me in stitches!
06 Jul 2014 20:02:20
Glad to help Anfieldboy get well soon lol
Nice one square tomato, my favourite was Oscar
06 Jul 2014 22:40:25
Top stuff Square!
06 Jul 2014 15:34:39
If we sell a couple of centre backs, I hope we keep skrtel. Got to admit he always raised his game for the big matches, and played so much better when he had something to prove. Especially if he was 3rd choice centre back, I think he would take the chance/a he gets and not let us down.
I think he's a calamity.
06 Jul 2014 15:34:20
The interest we seem to have in origi, is this purely down to his world cup displays or were we watching him anyways. A diao/diouf springs to mind.
He was at fault for 9 goals last season and that doesn't even include his plethora of own goals! I'd ratger keep Agger to conpete with Sakho and let Lovren and Ilori/Kelly fight it out for the right centre back role with Toure as an experienced back up for either side.
Hopefully Skrtrel goes to Turkey as is rumoured. He is one of those who always gives 100% but we can't keep carrying average players and Rodgers needs to be ruthless just like Paisley was. So thanks Skrtel, and good luck with the rest of your career.
If the world cups anything to go by, it will be another waste of £10 mill. I've seen more movement in a beached whale.
That reply was meant for Conbicks post up above. My bad.
Origi is still raw Ozone. He might not have the best work rate or intelligence right now but they are things which can be improved. There's a certain flair about him, a risk worth taking I'd say.
Not at £10mill Jassi, we've had enough of those, Borini, Aspas, Albertos, Ilori the list goes on. We have prospects in the academy.
Its an old adage that says you can't judge a players quality on their performance in the world cup. Remember El Hadj Diouf? Has a boss world cup and bombed. Origi is 19 with a long way to go in his development - you need to lay off the kid he needs support not criticism from fans before he's even signed for us, good god.
06 Jul 2014 15:27:37
Hi ed01 if your about what happens now with lovren if he put in a transfer request can he make southhampton accept our bid or do we need to bid again for them to accept anything? Also how do you think he would do we he be a good upgrade?
{Ed001's Note - it depends on how strongly Southampton want to keep him. They can accede to his request, or refuse it.
I think he would be an excellent signing, he looks about the best available option for the centre half position.}
06 Jul 2014 16:58:30
I think you will find there are other clubs wanting him. If they offer Saints a better deal and LFC do not improve their rejected offer, what is there to make Saints accept a bid which has already been rejected? Perhaps Lovren will put his hand in his pocket and make up the difference? LOL
It is not up to the player to decide his value and reading his "statement" you can quite understand why! He mentions what Saints paid for him but conveniently forgets why they were able to purchase him at that price.
I would have thought you might consider the situation with Suarez at the moment and the consensus that LFC will only want to their terms. The situation is similar with Lovren-except we do have a player who could play in the EPL or any other league next season, (which IMO is not the situation with Suarez.).
06 Jul 2014 17:56:09
Oh and lovren is no suarez btw his only option is spain so how could he join another epl club. Nugget
06 Jul 2014 18:37:14
bwetty-let me make it simple for you. Lovren could be sold to any club, in any league, in Europe. This is NOT the case with Suarez.
So, Saints have many options to maximise their revenue for Lovren, and will not suddenly decide to accept an offer they have already rejected. Why would they reject it if they did not think there were (maybe several) better options?
Of course, they could always convert to a charity to support the poor of Liverpool-don't think so.
Unlike Lallana, I politely suggest this one could become a bit of a messy auction, and Lovren's comments can only encourage this as he will have lost any goodwill from Saints Board and may even end up subject to some form of financial penalty.
06 Jul 2014 18:37:14
bwetty-let me make it simple for you. Lovren could be sold to any club, in any league, in Europe. This is NOT the case with Suarez.
So, Saints have many options to maximise their revenue for Lovren, and will not suddenly decide to accept an offer they have already rejected. Why would they reject it if they did not think there were (maybe several) better options?
Of course, they could always convert to a charity to support the poor of Liverpool-don't think so.
Unlike Lallana, I politely suggest this one could become a bit of a messy auction, and Lovren's comments can only encourage this as he will have lost any goodwill from Saints Board and may even end up subject to some form of financial penalty.
{Ed001's Note - the reason for accepting the offer would be because of him handing in an official transfer request, which means no need to pay him a percentage of the transfer fee.}
06 Jul 2014 13:20:45
Hey ed01, wishing you a bearable afternoon in the scorched lands ;>
Quick questions - it has been mentioned that we have been keeping tabs on Son, do you know how the club regards him, and do you have any opinion for him as a player? Personally, I think it is one of the closest things to a direct replacement for suarez in terms of position.
Also, do you have any updates on Origi? Are we still in the front seat, or have we stepped back? Based on watching him for Belgium, he seems like a good prospect.
{Ed001's Note - personally I like Son, though not sure he is anywhere near a direct replacement for Suarez. Not particularly convinced that he would suit the Prem myself, partly, I admit, guided by what I am told of the club's view of him. Judging by what I have been told, I don't expect the club to move for him, there are reservations regarding him.
As far as I am aware, the lad has a number of offers on the table, he is likely to make his decision in the next couple of days, when he gets home and has time to have a proper look.}
Thanks a million ed! I love reading your analysis :>
06 Jul 2014 13:18:50
So now we can probably put Sanchez rumours to bed I would think.
Posters have mentioned Lacazette in the past, I like him a lot and I don't think it would take a huge bid to take him from Lyon.
Another player we used to have interest in according to the eds is Ayew. I don't know if he's good enough but maybe he is still an option.
Ed001 i'd love to hear your thouhts on this if youve got a minute.
cheers
{Ed001's Note - I am not keen on Ayew, I don't think he is good enough. He is very wasteful and doesn't do enough with the ball for me.
Not seen enough of Lacazette to really judge him, sorry.}
06 Jul 2014 16:05:17
Ok thanks ed always interesting.
I also have doubts over ayew too but you can't argue with Lacazettes goal return last year, he can play wide too.
I think he's a better option than shaquiri and markovic personally.
06 Jul 2014 16:40:32
Have to admit to being sceptical of any player who's come from Ligue 1, you are more likely to find another Diouf than a Drogba or a Cheyrou than a Hazard. Agree fully with ed001 about Ayew and i'm not convinced about Lacazette as YouTube clips never tell a full story.
It is slightly worrying however that we lose a player who is worth 40 goals to the team and the only player even close to being like for like(Sanchez),is one that we don't appear to be pushing for as much as a liability as he is, Suarez is still a worldie, and you don't find too many of them about.
I have this awful feeling that we will end up doing what spurs did when they sold Bale, obviously I'd love to be proved wrong, but I've not seen any of the players we've been linked to as even close to the quality that Suarez has or replacing what he brings.
06 Jul 2014 15:42:27
My Take on the rumours on the Internet:
The Awful:
Huntelaar - no thanks. Not what we need. Offers very very little in build up play and would not suit our tactics. Sturridge first choice for lone striker and lambert backup is good enough for me. Borini as third striker is perfectly fine. We need a second striker/winger.
Markovic - shocked to see 77% want this player. Not needed and not good enough from what I've seen. Sterling is far better. Markovic will be a sub with potential to be a very good player in the future with solid training but this is what Ibe should be. Improvement on the first team he certainly is not and will not score enough goals.
Balotelli - perhaps most worryingly of all. Probably the most overratted inconsistent player on the planet. No Thanks.
Betrand - not strong enough defensively especially but also offensively. also if the 7-8 m fee is true, he is overpriced (but then again Ian Ayre does like overpriced players). Flanagan is a better left back and he's a right back.
Caulker: Very poor whether defensively or in possesion. No way. Thankfully rumours have cooled on this one.
I really hope none of the above come to Liverpool. I would rather we buy no one than any of these.
The Good:
Lovren: Overpriced: Probably but he is a player I would love at the club. A leader, great defensively and excellent on the ball. Also can play LCB and RCB comfortably. Speaks French and English so would help communication if paired with Shako or any of our other central defenders. Super Addition IMO.
Moreno: Unreal getting forward and I think he is not bad defensively either. Needs some improvement but I've seen nothing to suggest the improvements cannot be made. I would be happy with this purchase.
Ricardo Rodriguez: No solid basis for interest but there have been rumours. I think the lad is unreal. IMO the best out of Rojo, Moreno and certainly Betrand. Certainly the best defensively. Superb against Argentina. My no.1 choice for left back.
Rojo: Aother excellent choice for left back. Would be delighted to get our hands on this player. To be honest any of Moreno, Rojo, Rodriguez would be perfectly fine by me.
Yedlin: To be fair, I only saw this lad once and was really really impressed. Probably would love to get him just to push out johnson but he was fantastic against Belgium.
Shaqiri: I like him a lot. I really think Rodgers can get the best out of this lad and turn him into a really special talent. Hope we get this lad but not at the expense of the ready made superstars I'm about to mention.
Origi: Very bright young talent. Needs a lot of work (particularly defensively and agression) but with a few more years on him I'm very sure this can be coached into his game. I really like the potential here and unlike Markovic won't cost an arm and a leg.
Firmino: Only seen youtube clips and the bundesliga highlights clips on ITV but this guy looks deadly. Class him similarly to Shaqiri. Would love him to join but not at the expense of one of the following list if any would be possible.
The Abolsutely Amazing:
Sanchez: this player is perfect for our system. We would have absolutly frightening pace. He would also go a long way to replacing the Suarez goals and creativity. Sadly it looks like we are about to miss out.
Rues: Another we probably won't get but we should go all out with a massive contract offer and see what comes. Much like Sanchez would add the pace and the gaols.
James Rodriguez: Another toughie and would be very expensive but he can add the trickery and special moments Suarez had. We need to go all out again but these types must be our ambition.
I'm not a fool. The 3 above are very unlikely so if I was to go realistic I would like Liverpool to buy:
LB: any one of Rodriguez, Moreno, Rojo. in that order for me.
RB: Yedlin. Only one linked and I like him.
CB: Lovren. I really hope we complete this one.
W/F: If we cannot tempt one of the Amazing category then let's get both Shaqiri and Firmino. That's great strength and depth and would really add to the squad.
Also with the Sales:
Lucas on loan. WTF? We should be keeping this player or getting 10M+ for him. A loan should not even be considered.
Likewise with Reina. I rather we come to an agreement where he leaves at no cost similarly to Aquilani or keep him than loan him again. Napoli are taking us for mugs.
I worry when I hear these rumours. I honestly looks to me we are taken by most teams as a very soft touch in the market. The whole thing seems a shambles if I trust the rumours.
Thankfully so far I think the market has gone well.
I like Lallana, Can and Lambert.
I now think we're at a crossroads thanks to Suarez. He is obviously going to be sold and we need to up our game in the transfer market to put the finishing touches to this squad where we can look forward to next year.
Don't let me down Please Rodgers/Ayre!!
What a shocking post! Could you be anymore disrespectful and conceited?! Categorising players as 'awful', I'm guessing you wasn't good enough to make professional at any top clubs? And BR and Aire let you down.
Thank goodness for some of the nicer and more respectful posts on here.
06 Jul 2014 15:55:41
Just Magnificent. Brilliant Post mate.
I have the same exact opinion as yours.
But I would want the club to dig deep to pull Sanchez. We wouldn't need to buy a player for the next 5 good years.
Rest makes perfect sense.
If Not Sanchez. It has to be Shaquiri and Firmino. Both are natural goal scorers.
I don't expect to sign a RB this season.
As for LB we missed the trick on Rojo and I rate Rodriguez
Great read & post mate, I agree with everything you have had to say Firmino, Shaqiri, Moreno & Lovren alongside Can, Lambert & Lallana would be an excellent transfer window as we would be loosing one of the worlds best players in Suarez but be gaining so much more in the above players and our squad depth would be drastically improved. If we could get a another Goalkeeper in to pressure Mignolet then great but other than that if we got the above players we would be stronger even without Suarez.
Suffolk red, if you actually read it he doesn't say they are awful, just awful signings. He praises markovic saying he has big potential etc.
Agree totally with that list and how it's listed.
I would lose the little faith I have in Ayre if we sign Bertrand and allow Lucas out on loan. Just shocking.
06 Jul 2014 16:06:48
How long have you had your scouting credentials?
Seriously!
don't think he meant they were awful players altogether more so that he wouldn't like them at Liverpool and he gave an albeit brief description as to why under each. good post I liked it and agreed with most don't think we need yedlin however and as always I would love. Moreno
06 Jul 2014 18:07:00
You proved your lack of football knowledge by saying Balotelli is overrated - the boy's football ability is in absolute no doubt - I agree attitude may be a problem - but as a footballer - pure class.
John B, Balotelli would be a god awful signing. He is an absolute liability.
I'll agree with you that when he is turned on he is one of the top players in the world.
But he is massively massively inconsistent. 50% of games he doesn't turn up. Yes at least 50%. Watch Italy/Serie A and you'll see. He has games where he is god awful on a regular basis. And worse again, when he is not playing well, he seems determined to get himself sent off.
Extremely Disruptive attitude. I'm not going to go into this, I'm sure you already know. Sturridge will absolutetly hate him I'd imagine.
Nobody has been able to control him and if he left down Mancini/Prandelli who were absolutely unreal for him he will easily let down Rodgers.
Basically he is an ungrateful git.
Then comes the fact he will cost 30 million plus huge wages for this git.
Awful awful awful signing.
I'd have him nowhere near my club myself but if you think Rodgers can get him turned on for every game then that's your opinion. Mission Impossible 4 I'd say. or is it 5?
@Davey Sulls, great post and I agree with where you've put each player. Nicely done. And Suffolk Red, if he said The Very Bad instead of Awful would that be ok for you? As per Conbicks, he hasn't called them awful players just that he doesn't think they suit us, and most of the replies agree with him.
06 Jul 2014 15:16:08
Next season the only biting being done by a Liverpool player will be by borini. (Goal celebration)
Hope he gets a decent run and a few goals.
06 Jul 2014 15:29:43
hahahhaa lols. top draw mate.
06 Jul 2014 15:02:30
This site is just too damn addictive
couldn't stay away for 3 days proper
ed001 if I don't get good marks in my exams I am putting the blame on you guys
06 Jul 2014 14:48:28
Is it just me or is it that whenever Liverpool & Napoli appear in the same story it's accompanied by the word "loan". No wonder we decided to sell LS. We can't get a proper fee for anyone else!
06 Jul 2014 14:46:33
fellow reds, with lovren coming out and criticizing southampton I wonder what you all think off him as a potenial signing? I agree 20 mill is a very steep price but I rate him very highly.
also another point with chelsea signing costa fabrages and more to come, united signing shaw hererra and more to come, city bound to sign some quality, what would you all think of this upcoming season? I would have really liked sanchez to come in with suarez going out but i'm not keeping my hopes up, in my opinion sanchez is the best player out there on the market that we could sign, who would you be happy with instead of sanchez?
06 Jul 2014 15:15:38
Lovern is a top player, Whatever happening apart is a sad scenario.
Chelsea and City are always the favorite for the title. UTD would want to get into CL next season.
If Sanchez end up at Arsenal, I expect them to win the PL this season. He is the perfect artist any club could get to push to the next level.
That's one for my gunner frnd DG
06 Jul 2014 15:38:42
Right so we can safely rule Arsenal out of the title race then haha!
I think Chelsea and us will finish top 2.
Arsenal don't lack for quick, skilful little guys though! They'll continue to fall short until Wenger addresses their weaknesses. Sanchez won't win them the title that's for sure. But he'll score loads in 3 and 4 nil wins in matches that don't decide titles.
06 Jul 2014 16:11:06
So, Sanchez + Arsenal = champion?
What are you smoking there Harry?
If arsenal sign Valdes I'd be happy haha. and man u will be interesting as it could quite easily just end up a mess with players all over the place. and van gaal usually has success with bringing through talent not just buying. I think fabregas and Costa could end up being league winners or very poor signings just depend how they slot in. personally I think top 4 will be same as this year with United and spurs just outside but I don't think there'll be much more than 10 points between first and fifth or sixth
Really us and Chelsea? We are about to sell one of the top 3 players in world football with Lambert and Lallana coming in. No disrespect to those but haven't we seen us buy many before from a lower club that stood out after one season? Didn't hear of other top clubs in for either?
We've not sorted out the defence at all, only likely to sell at this point Agger and rumours now of Skrtel.
Chelsea have signed world class players, plus Zouma, Lukaku and The Belgium GK
man Utd have signed world class with a world class manager to come and more to spend. Man City already have the squad but will add with Fernando already in.
Sanchez is likely to go to Arsenal and they are spending out too.
I love Liverpool. But I have very little faith in Ayre and our policy. We could have signed Moreno but haven't, we will get Bertrand non of the better Rojo, Rodrigez etc LBs
Sanchez doesn't want to come. Shaqiri should be a transfer, but it won't happen. We could go for LFC loving Turan, but won't. Doubt we're even looking at Firmino
Origi prefers Dortmund, unless we win the race by giving him back on loan to Lille - so no use next season
Please reply with any world class players of Suarez, Sanchez, Fabregas or Costas level with we will sign or are even linked to. Top 2 lol
Crunch. The policy you have so little faith in has taken us from 7th to 2nd and into the CL. So you'd prefer another policy? What does that policy look like?
Anfieldboy. No you not think Suarez basically took us to 2nd? My point is do you see that level of player signing? Bertrand? Lambert?
Take a look at the rivals signings so far. Tell me I'm wrong
06 Jul 2014 14:31:09
Whats peoples thoughts on Reina coming back into the team . welcomed or not?
I'm split. There are positives to both keeping Reina and selling him. I'd be happy either way.
I would feel much more comfortable with Pepe between the sticks. I have nothing against Mignolet, but he is always flappy and doesn't command his area well enough. I know people say it was his first season, but that's just excuses. For me, he isn't good enough yet.
I think Reina with a better defence in front of him will be a perfect fit.
Red Rum
He will be sold.
06 Jul 2014 15:33:52
Mikey
You on a roll today. another brilliant one line punch.
I've always preffered keepers that do the simple stuff, and help out defenders by claiming crosses etc. It's all well and good tipping a thunderbolt over the bar, but if you don't deal with the resulting corner then it's no good!
Totally agree with you Red-Rum!
Don't want him at the club. People forget how frankly terrible he was for the last 2 seasons. Much more calamitous bitched about Liverpool. Just get rid and by in a decent 2nd.
06 Jul 2014 14:15:57
Hi eds, I read on the site a few days ago that Liverpool decided to open discussions with barca and that suarez will be happy to go. Do we know if suarez going to barca is a result of him telling the club he wants to go initially? Thanks andy
{Ed002's Note - Done to death.}
06 Jul 2014 13:01:13
I have a question to the Eds, do owners ever insist or at least encourage that players from certain countries be targeted for marketing purposes? For example Asian or USA players could really boost the brand of Liverpool but would the club go for one if there were more talented options available? Thanks.
{Ed002's Note - No they would not do that.}
I was always under the impression that that was a significant factor in united buying kagawa
Buying kagawa in the same window that park left.
{Ed001's Note - that wasn't why he was bought. It was just seen as a bonus.}
05 Jul 2014 17:48:22
Eds,
just curious and you have a lot of knowledge, would it be possible for Barca to put an anti bite clause in Suarez contract , ie if he does it again they could cancel contract and receive compo from him or something like that?
{Ed002's Note - Who would be providing this compensation?}
06 Jul 2014 15:04:42
Not going to happen. BUT hypothetically luis would have to pay it, ed.
{Ed002's Note - And where would he get that money from?}
06 Jul 2014 15:41:03
Well that's just it ed, he couldn't pay it could he. But if this imagnary clause did exist it would have to be Luis paying it, like you say who else would be paying it
06 Jul 2014 08:40:37
Ed002, you asked me to remind you in a few days time. Would you be able to summarise any known interest in Liverpool players? Thank you.
{Ed002's Note - You will have to remind me from Wednesday onwards.}
06 Jul 2014 13:33:15
Eds fellow reds, is it me or are we still paying through the nose for players, just read £20 million for lovern he's 10 million at best don't rate him Lallana £25 million 15 million at best .one good season players and paying silly money again .i thought that we would have learnt our lesson from comolli (spelling) .and the other point is champs league is what players want so why are we struggling to get some of these players.
Lovren and Lallana have had a lot more than one good season mate.
06 Jul 2014 13:55:18
We need to be consistent in the CL. What assurance of being in CL next season?
Well your not rating lovren really does not matter
King luis. So who would you like to sign and for what sort of fees? Unless I'm mistaken City & Chelsea went from nowhere to England's top two sides by investing heavily in players? You seem to think there's a Tony Blair third way where we recruit world class stars for the price of Championship players. How could Lallana not be worth 25m at least? He's probably the most technical English player right now.
Once again someone who hasn't seen players on a regular basis before this season so therefore they didn't exist or were crap. are people really this ignorant?
06 Jul 2014 13:30:43
Just posting this. If we sign Lovren I think he will be are best signing this summer and one of the best signings of the season between all teams and I truly believe that a Sakho, Lovren partnership would be are cb paring for the next few seasons and would be as good as anything else the premier league has to offer.
Any thought people?
I agree with you Lovren is a quality Def better than what we have simple pay the money and get rid of Skrtel Agger and Toure get a second Def in and you have three top cb's Hummels would be my choice one of the best cb's in the world
06 Jul 2014 14:23:08
Why sell kolo? We would have 4 center backs with kolo, not to mention Kelly so 5. That's more than enough. Kolo had a few unlucky deflections but other than that he was a solid defender, played his part from the bench, has leadership skills, and gives his all every time he's on the pitch. I just don't understand why people want to get rid of kolo.
06 Jul 2014 13:14:18
Personally I would sell Anger, Skrtel and Kolo Toure and with the money we have already and player sales make Matt hummels and Lovren my main targets not matter the cost.I would also sell Erinque for get jack Robinson and get Ashley Cole and a young lb also sell Glen Jonson.
06 Jul 2014 13:18:09
Christtt. You don't have the power to do.
I lost it at 'anger'.
I wouldn't sell my anger, could be useful one day.
I'm glad you're nowhere near the club
I am soooo sorry my auto correct I meant Daniel Agger. And are you saying you would rather have Agger, skrtle and Toure over Lovren and hummels? Really
Hummels is pie in the sky. I agree that we should look to replace Agger & Skrtel. Lovren & Sakho with Toure as experienced back up and let's see what Ilori & Wisdom/Kelly can do?
06 Jul 2014 14:30:16
This ain't fifa
We need to stop these posts. Hummells isn't available, doesn't want to join us, and the club have no interest in signing him.
Just picking players you think are one of the best in the world and thinking that LFC should sign them is plain daft.
06 Jul 2014 15:09:19
Hummels doesn't come into mate. he's great but just some player you've decided to gauge our players and transfer targets against.
06 Jul 2014 15:19:55
Suffolk
Relaaax mate, That's just his wish.
How do you know what hummel wants are you friends.at the end of the day money talks and we are in the champions league ambition and money is what drives big players.
If you had left this alone and just said it was my wish you would be fine but now you really do just seem daft. you do realize we are failing FFP as we stand yes?
06 Jul 2014 12:23:36
Hi Ed001 if you're about, would like your opinion on a few things-
Are we considering moving Lucas on? I realise he didn't have a great end to the season but would seem stupid to ship him out if we seriously plan on competing in more than just the league this year. Personally still prefer him to gerrard between the cbs.
I remember when Rodgers first took over we were being linked with Alex Pearce- was this just due to the Reading connection and do we still have any interest? Personally rate Pearce, he's not the big name everyone would want but if we were moved for him I'd be pretty happy, do you have any opinion on Pearce?
And finally- what do you think of Mike Marsh and Pascoe?
Cheers
{Ed001's Note - he is not for sale, but a good offer would be put to him and left to him to choose. Can has been brought in as much to cover Hendo as anything else. Though I expect him to play alongside him too.
Just because he knew him, Pearce even waited around before signing a contract just in case but got no offers from us. Not a fan myself, he is not good enough imo.
I think Marsh, Pascoe and Rodgers seem to work very well together. So far they have been a good combination and players are improving under them, so it is looking good so far. We will only really know for sure when things are going badly though, that is when any cracks will appear.}
Rumour has it that Colin pascoe doesn't own 1 pair of trousers
Cheers for the reply Ed001.
06 Jul 2014 12:21:59
Hi Ed
Do you think the Neymar injury will hinder the suarez situation. Possibly Neymar might not be fully fit for a while and clearly suarez will get a reduced ban now?
I would surely now say we are in driving seat to convince the catalan giants of a bigger fee to prise our best asset if not one of the most in form striker's at present time. Or could that mean sanchez will stay and fight for a place.
Many thanks
{Ed001's Note - it is not relevant.}
06 Jul 2014 12:33:49
Without Sanchez getting sold. Barca won't buy anyone. They don't have money
Hes out for 6 weeks max why would this affect barca
06 Jul 2014 11:54:28
Ed01. Who would you pick the 2 wide attackers Once Suarez leaves?
{Ed001's Note - I am not sure if you mean from within the club or who to bring in or a mix of the two Harry?}
06 Jul 2014 12:35:15
We would retain Sterling and would sent IBE on loan. We will have some tough fixtures early on and also in the CL. And ATM Sterling is the only natural wide player available for us.
Whats your pick on 2 players outside the team.
My choices
Lorenzo Insigne / Alexander Lacazatte
though I'd still be hoping for stephan el Shaarawy
06 Jul 2014 12:49:24
I am sure this problem would have been solved 12 months ago, If would have bought either Kono or Salah. Both would have been settled and we would have looked better.
Salah would have been great. You hardly get a pacy winger at 12 mill.
06 Jul 2014 12:56:48
Lorenzo Insigne isn't available and its very hard to trade with Napoli.
Alexander Lacazatte is certainly in the market and He scored 23 goals last season.
06 Jul 2014 17:17:44
Harry maybe we could use your favourite player, Lucas as a make weight in a deal?
06 Jul 2014 11:59:16
what are your opinions of bertrand?
i haven't really watched him play
We needed a top LB and that waa obvious all last season.and it will be the same next season. I.do not think highly of him, he's decent but i'd rather give a young player a chance than waste 6plus million. My opinion ofcourse
06 Jul 2014 12:21:50
He didn't enjoyed a great spell at Cheslea over the years, But that's ok, Given Cole would bench any LB.
But then He was loaned to Aston Villa, When Jose played a RB at LB position.
He is not wanted at Villa either. Surprisingly BR rates him and seems he is heading to us.
Average.
Poor positional play, lacks defensive awareness, decent going forward.
Not what we need.
I rather we play enrique or jack robinson than sign him
06 Jul 2014 11:33:02
I'm just copy and pasting this from an ESPN interview Lovren apparently did but what great reading if it's true.
"Liverpool sent the offer and the club haven't informed me. Not even about the subsequent Liverpool bids. That wasn't right. I found out about the bid from other people which disappointed me and I realised I've got no business staying at Southampton.
"Liverpool sent a 20 million offer and they [Southampton] paid nine million for me, so they would've earned twice the amount.
"At this point, I don't know what I'll do and I don't like it. It was unbelievable that a few days ago I had an offer of 20 million pounds. It was in the morning and by the afternoon the club had said I was not for sale. Frankly, my head is already at Liverpool."
Lovren was critical of Southampton's change in ownership, saying:
"Honestly, I don't know who the main man at the club is anymore. They are now looking for 25 million pounds, but I don't think they'll get it."
"Look, I'd gladly stay in Southampton if the club had any ambitions, if they kept the key players. Not even the Liverpool bid would have dissuaded me."
Of Liverpool he praised:
"Liverpool is one of the biggest clubs in the world. Only Real Madrid have as many fans around the world. The last time I played at Anfield, I got chills when I heard 'You'll Never Walk Alone.' I would like to listen to it all the time."
In the bag.
Fantastic news
Let's hope so, Chris. Hopefully he'll make it untenable at Southampton at they will take the £20M. I don't wish bad for the Saints but they've done well enough from our funds now.
Hopefully we'll get Moreno rather than Bertrand too.
Good news because he is linked to you guys, if a Liverpool player did that, you will rip him to shreds
{Ed001's Note - isn't that the same for all fans though? I do agree though, for me I find this uncomfortable.}
Chris in Tamworth you must be wetting yourselves mate. I seem to remember you suggesting us to buy him some time ago before Southampton got him.
Except saints will sting us for another £25m
06 Jul 2014 12:39:06
ED01. Your comment says it. You are top soul. never biased. I am too not happy with the way a player slams his former club in the media. Let it be Liverpool or Crystal Palace.
I want him at Liverpool but this is to much.this is not the right way to force a move
So what happens if nobody pays the asking price
Lacks a bit of class speaking out if you ask me - if he signs, what's to stop him doing this to us in a couple of season?
Great signing if it goes through though, I like him as a player.
06 Jul 2014 12:59:19
But Seems they have rejected a 20 mill offer for a player who was bought at 8 mill last year.
How much should we offer?. He isn't Thiago Silva.
Saints don't wanna sell.
Whilst I love hearing this from a prospective player for I us I find it was wrong for him to say this or anything about the possible transfer and leave it to the two clubs or make the comments behind closed doors.
If we do sign him how do we know this won't happen if say Real Madrid came knocking next window?
Like him as a player a lot and pleased he wants to play for us but should think about how he is acting in the mean time.
Agree edd001 but one thing with all the lies (some) players do and sneaky things that go own at least his own clubs fans now no where they stand with him! ie sum young boy about 8/10/13 should not b going out buying his shirt with his name on his back thinking that his sum big star that wants to play or bleed for there beloved football club etc
Come on lads/lasses that's life if he wants to force a move that's his choice as long as we don't "tap him up".
H - we haven't offered 20m. Saints know 25m is pie in the sky. He wants out and they'll grant his wish. Saints will try and get other clubs bidding but old Dejan couldn't have been clearer about his wishes could he? I agree with Ed01. It is uncomfortable viewing - make your point in private if you have a beef with the club but don't disrespect the fans.
06 Jul 2014 13:57:07
Reports suggest we have had a 20 mill bid rejected. But surely that's the sum they would want. In-fact, saints don't wanna sell him in first place.
Southampton have to seen to be fighting to keep their players and get huge sums for them, or they will get it from their fans.
I'm sure Saints know quite well that Lovren is leaving, as they did with Lallana. But they have to make the player appear to be the bad guy, for PR reasons.
If they had wanted to, Southampton owners could have called in Pochettini and their top players, said look: we are going to invest and make this team even better.
They didn't. Instead, they have been having an auction for their players. Without telling the players involved.
I don't blame Lovren for being annoyed.
Bit unprofessional that, however I really rate him so get him signed up.
Is it right his club didn't tell him about bids?
I don't see it as unprofessional, not really, if it is true then the club hasn't shown him the decency and respect to inform him of anything and that's wrong
the change of ownership has caused a lot of trouble it seems and Lovrens right, they lack ambition - the moment Pochettino left I knew they would start selling, just think of the team they couldve built next year if they had sold their biggest asset (Shaw) and added to an already strong squad
also if a Liverpool player had come out during the H&G turmoil I wouldn't have blamed them for wanting to leave just as if I were a saints fan I wouldn't hate on him for saying this now, there's obviously problems
The thing about shaw is, he could develop into the next bale, then he'd be a bargain, he could just be a very good left back, which again would justify his price, or, as he's so young, could not reach his potential due to his growth, however this seems unlikely. For Southampton though, 30 million is massive money, and they could replace him with an equally good left back for 10-15 million, albeit minus the potential.
06 Jul 2014 15:39:12
Can someone explain me Why are we slating Torres since he left?. Mascherano at some extent?
Coz the whole posts above are just defending something which we have been ripping apart in the past.
Hey brown Jesus I don't blame him for wanting to leave it's just doing it in the press is the wrong way to do it. Having said that nobody really knows what's been going on behind the scenes.
You're correct Kaizer, I was desperate for us to sign him when he was at Lyon. Always thought he was quality and I was right. again! lol
Chris for the Transfer Committee!
Torres - I hated him when he left because he always maintained he never weould - as far as I know there was a lot of s*** that forced him out so I don't blame him anymore
Mascherano - I totally don't remember this transfer at all - I just remember being thoroughly disappointed we lost him but thought we would cope without him - if someone can tell me the reasons he publicly gave for leaving I can tell you what my opinion wouldve been but from memory he said different things to spanish media?
06 Jul 2014 11:06:09
hey Ed's, as you've said, the Suarez deal is seen as priority and don't expect nothing till then. as our main priorities was 1 versatile attacker (lallana) a CB and a LB do you think that striker/ WF like a suarez replacement (someone like sanchez even though that looks dead) would now also be p in the priorities or does BR just want shaqiri and think borini and lambert would do the job?
{Ed001's Note - the wide forward was always a priority, Lallana has not been signed primarily to play that role, though he might have to cover it at times.}
06 Jul 2014 11:53:08
Ed01. Thank you so much. I have been crying But none here wanna listen me.
Lallana would play in the middle in 3 Men Midfield along with Hendo and Gerrard / Can.
Regardless of Suarez, We need a LW, Coutinho is far too in consistent at the flanks and Sterling seems like enjoying playing in the hole.
We need 2 Wide attackers, If Suarez leaves.
Shaqiri & Markovich? Both supremely talented and capable of huge improvement in the next few years. Both have the X factor.
06 Jul 2014 14:00:06
Shaquiri is a talent. And would be brilliant. Not sure on Markovic. No goals last season, His price would be somewhere near 30 mill considering the complications in the owner-ship.
Firmino would be my pick. He is a natural goal scorer, not worried about the price, But he is available.
H - Markovich scored 7 goals in total last season and was an important member of a team that nearly won every trophy it went for. He was a 1 in 3 scorer at Partizan as a teenager. He's the one most likely to reach a Ronaldo level of all the players we've been linked with. He could be anything.
06 Jul 2014 10:41:21
From your experience eds, what is the chance of us signing someone this summer that hasn't even been linked? How much insight do the papers have- could we say suddenly announce the signing of Pedro or Muller (just examples) without any tedious build up? I just need some reassurance that the extent of our transfer aspirations isn't Ryan Bertrand.
{Ed001's Note - there will usually be a leak from the selling club or an agent, due to the possibility that other interest will appear and raise the price. It is very rare for transfers to happen without being known about a day or two before completion.}
The only transfer that I can remember off that there wasnt much news was raul meireles. still don't know how they pulled that off.
06 Jul 2014 14:35:43
And assiaidi
06 Jul 2014 17:32:12
Lambert?
06 Jul 2014 10:32:00
Morning Eds
Do you now when the players who haven't been at the world cup return for pre season training?
Thanks in advance
{Ed001's Note - I thought it was tomorrow, but not sure as that could just be an early return to get fit after injury, similar to the way Enrique has done.}
06 Jul 2014 11:08:42
Would be delighted to get Yedlin in, iknow it's like World Cup fever but he was excellent, stunning pace and what an engine, the guy never stopped running
06 Jul 2014 12:05:43
Agree, he looks like he has got good potential and I think it's great to give a player who shows so much passion and determination the opportunity to succeed at such a high level. Hope he does well and impresses if he accepts the trial with us.
06 Jul 2014 14:27:26
Being an American, I couldn't agree more.
06 Jul 2014 11:00:48
Just read a full interview that lovren gave his local newspaper. He said he was not informed of the bids from Liverpool and that he found out from other people not Southampton. He said that was not right. He questioned Southamptons ambitions. He said when he first joined the club had ambition and he was convinced by the Owner and manager, now says all the stars are leaving and he wants out. He said he wrote a letter to Southampton telling them all this and they thanked him and that was it. He said they are leaving him on thin ice at the moment, he said they want £25 million pounds for him and he said himself cannot understand why they wouldn't accept £20 when they only paid £9. He said when he played at anfield last year he had goosebumps when hearing you"ll never walk alone and wants to hear it all the time. ok so sounds like he really really wants to come and has made things public to push the move through, should be interesting to see how things develop over the next few days
06 Jul 2014 10:52:13
having seen how barca buys before, they will crow about how big a bargain they have got in LS, then slap a 200m euro price on him. Is there a site where they have to register the total price paid, or do we have to take what every one says with a pinch of salt. many thx.
Im actually surprised they would spend that much on another forward when they're really desperate for a better defence?
06 Jul 2014 10:43:40
I feel really sorry for the Saints Supporters. Lovern is doing every thing possible to force a move.
Seems Exactly what Suarez did an year ago.
I have less sympathy Home Fan.
I would prefer a player to come out and be honest.
Lovren has handed in a transfer request so he loses money by being honest.
If what he says is true then I can understand why he may want to leave.
Southampton will use the money they receive to obtain players from other clubs using exactly the same methods.
I prefer Lovren's approach to moving clubs than Suarez's.
06 Jul 2014 12:26:43
I don't wanna go in detail. Being honest is the best thing anyone could do. But then sometimes it becomes Arrogant and people miss-interpret it.
I don't think you post would be a hit at Saint's page, They are witnessing a player exodus and Fans would want their player to remain Loyal.
I believe any player shouldn't come out and slam their club
If I start a new job and they say here's a ford but don't worry in a year your have a Bentley and we have ambitions of keeping our sales force so we will improve year on year; then none of it happens (and even worse they sell the sales force to rivals) then understandable if you want to move jobs.
We had something similar.
I don't feel sorry for the way Torres sulked etc. but I'm sure he was given assurances of a certain calibre of player joining then we start selling.
If promises are not kept then I can see why players want to move on - loyalty has to be both ways.
I understand where you are coming from but as a fan I would prefer honesty like "I just want to leave and go to a bigger club"
over
"I am not going to ask for a transfer because I lose all loyalty bonuses etc But instead I will bite someone because that seems to work for me"
06 Jul 2014 12:54:30
Hoola
Agreed, But you believe Southampton would have promised any player that they would play in CL next season. That's something we couldn't afford right now.
Even If the promises are broken, You ain't come out slagging your employer.
What If we loose out from the Top 4 next season?. You expect Lallana and Lovern to move?
Top 4 isn't guaranteed to any club apart from City and Chelsea IMO
06 Jul 2014 13:05:30
Johnybarnes
No Mate you ain't getting me. Both are two sides of a coin. simple. both wants out. and both have their own ways to get it.
Rooney handed TR three times and got 3 bumper contracts. Its simple.
I am not biased.
I'm not suggesting they promised him Champs League Football; however I'm sure they spoke of improving the team to be competing for European places and at the moment they've sold 3 English players (inc their captain).
I don't agree with slagging your employer (well not when it can be brought up and evidence provided ;o) ).
I agree with the Top 4 - to me we need to be in the Champs League year in year out; both financially and to ensure we are not dealing with players who want to jump ship after missing out for a year.
LFC have to deal with players forcing their way out (Torres, Mascherano, Suarez), so club like Soton cannot realistically expect otherwise.
In the old days, clubs understood that a top player would want to play for United or LFC if they got the chance, and didn't get vindictive about it.
06 Jul 2014 10:22:56
Edd001 can I ask something mate that you can choose not to answer ofcourse'
Is there much money to be made through websites( advertising) and apps? i'm not paralleling the question to you but I've been.thinking about creating a game app.
{Ed001's Note - not really. Not unless you spend a lot on advertising to get massive amounts of page views/app sales. If we were earning a lot of money, we would have a bunch of employees already mate.}
Can I borrow £10?
Thanks mate
06 Jul 2014 10:18:13
Costa Rica`s keeper Navas looks well tasty, can stop shots and his kicking looks superb. Commentator mentioned a 8 mil release clause, sounds like a bargain.
That's just what Suarez said mate!
06 Jul 2014 10:45:45
He seems heading towards Athletico. Excellent player.
I would have swapped Mignolet for him anyday.
Well we do have Reina coming back.
06 Jul 2014 10:04:20
What would everyone think to partnering sterling with sturridge up top next season? That would still allow us to play a 4-4-2 diamond with coutinho at the point in his strongest position. With sterling and sturridges pace defenders would have to drop deep which would leave space for coutinho and one of the strikers to drop abit deeper why the other runs in behind. I think a midfield of Gerrard holding, lallana and hendo either side, coutinho at the point with sterling nd sturridge up top would have pace, power, creativity and movement. I think sterling could do what walcott does when he plays central and be a lot more dangerous.
06 Jul 2014 10:12:35
It's a good idea and could be tried next season.
06 Jul 2014 10:26:02
I wouldn't because I have serious doubts about the long-term viability of the diamond.
Yes, we obviously got good results with it last season, but I honestly think that was down to the intensity of our play and belief within the team rather than the formation. And there were several matches when we completely lost control of the game after our initial onslaught. I think we'd have had 99% of the attacking intensity but a lot more control with 433. And we had some great performances playing 433 in the first half of the season too. City at the Etihad for example - we actually played better there than when we beat them at Anfield.
So my preference would be to go back to 433. Sterling would nominally operate from a wing position, but we'd play in a free-flowing enough manner that he'd under no obligation to stay there for the 90 minutes, with Coutinho either on the other wing or coming from the centre of midfield depending on the game.
06 Jul 2014 10:48:43
Sterling would Excel at the the tip of the diamond.
06 Jul 2014 17:47:46
I was thinking of posting something similar to this.
I see Stirling as being Suarez's replacement.
A lot of strikers ie Studge play out wide to begin with and then come in central.
I'm not to sure if he is ready quite yet but hey? Why not?
Also the way we play we like our stickers to be able to play across the front 3 Raheem can do this.
If anything I think we should look for another wide player to swap for sterling
06 Jul 2014 09:36:52
Eds Great Mng and Thanksssssssssssssssssssssssssss.
Feels world of good back after a much needed break.
We were in for Konoplayanka last Jan, So A wide player was coming regardless of Suarez.
We also needed a LB and CB end of the last season.
Lallana was BR choice to play in in the middle 3.
Emere Can will replace Lucas.
So Where is the replacement for Suarez?.
We should be in for two attacking players. Sterling and Countinho looked brilliant playing in the middle than in the flanks. ( Sterling's best Performance last season was when played at the tip of the diamond ).
Lallana is the alternative buy to Konoplyanka
Lambert replaces Suarez.
Borini returns
Suso returns
Assaidi returns.
Underwhelmed? Yeah, me too.
{Ed001's Note - Lallana is no such thing! That is why we looked at players such as Shaqiri and Markovic, as the alternative to Konoplyanka.}
Well I guess only time will tell who we sign/play.
06 Jul 2014 12:31:13
Ken
I like you a lot here. But this is your first serious stupid post. Lallana would actually replace Allen, If He doesn't perform.
Suso is heading out. Borini is a striker and Lambert is replacing Aspas.
We Need Two World class winger once Suarez Leaves. Or I don't see enough goals coming.
Harry, Lallana is not to replace Allen at all, totally totally different players and the fact that Allen was and will be on the bench most of the time means your post is. . fill in the gap people.
06 Jul 2014 15:57:54
That's not my first serious stupid post.
Come on H, as Ed002 would put it
RTFP
06 Jul 2014 09:17:28
Eds, wondering why my last 2 posts weren't posted? Yesterday evening and a few days ago?
{Ed001's Note - no idea.}
06 Jul 2014 08:39:29
Ed001, can you will us to sign Bertrand please. You always claim that whoever you want to sign the club do otherwise.
Cheers
Bryan
{Ed001's Note - that's harsh mate!}
Just pulling your leg, Ed :-)
Have to admit that's a good one though ed001 =P
06 Jul 2014 03:32:14
Anyone else think Brendon Rodgers could bring the best out in Mario Balotelli? He is still realy young n will sure mature under the right influence.Brendon Rodgers is a brilliant man manager n especially does well wth players coming through.Mario has undoubted raw talent, but I personally think he would develop rapidily mentally, given the right direction.If he is willing to take advise, grow up n live the life, he will be a world beater.Will improve n could be available for around 25 -30 miil.This may be a hunch but he is young player with a massive ego, he believes the hype.Around the right people is could be a revalation.Surely he would be an investment.i think he would add a little something different ala suarez, the unexpected.Defenders hate him because he is awkward n streetwise.faustino asprilla but far more skillfull
Obvious issues aside, I honestly don't know what we would do with Balotelli? I don't think I've ever seen him play anything other than central and he's not particularly creative so partnering him with Sturridge makes little sense to me.
For me, I think we'd be far, far better off letting Daniel play up front by himself and giving him another wide forward opposite Sterling to work with (Sanchez being near ideal), rather than going back to the two up top we were somewhat forced into to accommodate Sturridge and Suarez.
06 Jul 2014 09:23:50
What about Giovanni dos Santos?
06 Jul 2014 09:41:02
Mate, Where would he fit in our free flowing 4-3-3 formation? If Sturridge is playing on the top in 4-3-3, We need two world class attacking wingers either side of him.
H, do you want to play 4-3-3 or a diamond?
06 Jul 2014 13:20:56
Ken
We would be playing both.Depends how our new signings are fitting in.
06 Jul 2014 00:32:42
Ed001
In the situation that we are not in the running for Sanchez and losing Suarez to Barcelona, and we already have lallana, is there another forward or attacking versatile winger that you think we should be able to sign?
if so, who are they?
{Ed001's Note - off the top of my head, I can't think of any, but I am sure there are other good wide players we could go for that are just slipping my mind. I certainly don't expect Lallana to be played there out of choice, similar to Coutinho, he was only playing there because we lacked options.}
Would Griezmann be one ed?
{Ed001's Note - not for me, quality player but I have heard a lot of bad things about his attitude off the pitch.}
06 Jul 2014 09:42:03
I have been saying this from weeks. Lallana was bought to play in the 3 Men Midfield ( Right or Left). He won't be pushed further up.
05 Jul 2014 16:09:30
Ed002, are Liverpool in talks with Alexis Sanchez or his agent? Thanks.
{Ed002's Note - About what?}
Apparently Sanchez is looking to buy a motorcycle, so he's in talks with Ian Ayre for some expert advise on Harleys
A move to LFC?
{Ed002's Note - No.}
Cheers.