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06 Jun 2015 23:34:01
Eds is it true Pako is returning as no.2 and Inglethorpe replaces Marsh?
If correct is this positive?
With Pakos sucess in Israel as a manager, is this him being positioned as near future replacement?
{Ed002's Note - I don't know.}
06 Jun 2015 23:13:23
Welcome back Pako if it's true.
06 Jun 2015 23:52:34
Hope it is true, fitness has been a major issue and Pako will get them fit. Last 2 seasons we have ran out of steam in April/May, we need to learn how to finish strongly. Shame we haven't approached Bolo Zenden too.
Who's going to take over Inglethorpe's previous role?
07 Jun 2015 10:43:13
hope this is true, i get the impression Pako was more influential on team selection than Rafa let on, as performance dipped after he left
as far as i recall Pako still has his house on the Wirral, which would suggest he would welcome a return to the area.
he has proved his ability at Maccabi and his knowledge of LFC would make an awful lot of sense to recruit him. Probably a good strategy for succession planning knowing that Brendan probably will be gone by January to have Pako there to step in to the hotseat.
financially i would think LFC can still offer him more as a no2 than he was on in Israel as a manager
good move if FSG do get him
06 Jun 2015 22:48:35
Is seems Pako Ayestaran is coming back with ingelthorpe being promoted to the first team.
I suppose ingelthorpe would push to accommodate more of the youth players in the first team setup and he has been successful with youth setup so far. i would be happy with that.
I don't know about pako though. i hope it works!
06 Jun 2015 23:36:17
Alex will provide a good link between youth and first team, but remember two things and first is Brendan always has the to youth up at Melford training with them and secondly Brendan.still picks the team. Doesn't really matter anything else.
07 Jun 2015 00:02:28
Remember that marsh was also promoted from the youth team coach, Rodgers will decide. Hopefully the owners place pressure on the squad for more youth to come through.
07 Jun 2015 09:59:00
Can you really see Ingelthorpe being given a job as assistant to Rogers he has only had experience of working with young potential players at Tottenham and Liverpool respectfully , As for Pako this would be a fantastic appointment I believe Rafa was never the same after Pako left he lost his way and our football changed for the worse.
I think Rogers should appoint a top class second coach some one that can organise the defence because they have been all over the place with the changes to personnel week after week by rogers and by deploying coaches of this calibre we should see an improvement in our all round game which may give Rogers a chance to achieve his ambition's as a top class manager and also if he does not reach the standards expected it would show it was not his coaching staff but himself as we have all believed and pointed out on this great site .
06 Jun 2015 22:24:12
Eds, big fan of the site, first time posting. I would love to hear your opinions on which of the talent liverpool are looking to bring in this summer, or already have at the club, excites you the most as having potential to go on and be great players.m
Cheers,
Redmo.
{Ed002's Note - I am afraid that I don't get excited by young men. No doubt most of the posts will share the names of the players that get them excited.}
07 Jun 2015 05:45:08
Mila Kunis is a name that gets me excited
07 Jun 2015 11:14:04
Ed002 are you saying you get excited by old men then?
06 Jun 2015 20:10:50
Hi ed01 as a fan who's not from the city. Can I ask what the majority of fans around the city are thinking. Are a lot of fans looking for rodgers out. I know it's clear from the site that there is a massive pull against him but I always find the dissatisfied shout loudest etc and wondered of the views on here we're held by the majority. What's been the opinion at games etc have the crowd been behind him. We've seen the plane incidents at a couple of games but what was the crowd reactions to these stunts. Also depending on your answer to above will the owners be aware of the fans opinions and do they take them into account. I know it's been said on here before but rodgers had seemed to have the media behind him compared to someone like moyes who had questions marks over him at an early stage also van gal didn't get an easy ride either
{Ed001's Note - I can only go by my friends and family, all of whom, other than the Evertonians, want him out. The Evertonians love him.}
06 Jun 2015 21:03:44
Not as much as we love Martinez haha
06 Jun 2015 21:09:48
Im not from the city and have wanted Teeth out for a while. A few months ago Scousers coming into work wanted him to stay and recently wanted him to go. So that's view from me.
07 Jun 2015 05:34:48
I think the general consensus on the internet at least, from what I can see, is still mixed, there are those that just can't see Rodgers failings and so are more than happy to 'give him another chance', while others firmly believe he's a charlatan and should be removed at once and then there are always the fans that just don't consider the reality of the game and so still expect massive money signings and expect glory when it just isn't a possibility. It's a mixed bag from what I gather, I don't see how the fans in the city of Liverpool would have an opinion that matters more than the rest of us though. Then again I don't know.
07 Jun 2015 09:07:04
Licky, just to pick you up on something. There are quite a few of us, like me, who can see the mistakes Rodgers has made in the last 12 months, but are willing to support him to give him chance to turn it round.
I can't go from thinking "he's done a fantastic job" (12 months ago) to "he's incompetent" in 12 months. Probably because I'm old
07 Jun 2015 10:15:30
Ron you my friend have your opinion and it is a valid view and we respect your opinion but on the other hand all us who are not happy with Mr Rogers and would like him removed as our manager for are views that he has had three years here we have struggled in the first half of the season on all three ok we had a very good second season but I think it was not all down to Mr Rogers in fact I would go as far as to say it was down to our two strikers hitting top form and bagging lots of goals we lost one strikers and wasted the money on players who have not come to the fore . Also when we needed our manager to get something out of the Chelsea game he blew it then blew it against palace the next game title gone. Last season we get our self back in to the race for a champs league and he blows it against man united then arsenal and it was all down hill from then on . And finally his press conference's are so all about him and who he can blame for our loss and now he has got rid of his back room staff and not had the balls to fall on his sword how can any incoming coaches trust him so Ron that's my opinion on Mr Rogers
07 Jun 2015 10:34:52
I moved out of the city a couple of years ago, but the locals I still talk to that are lfc fans have usually been more supportive of him than the people who comment on discussion forums.
Having said that, I know a couple of fans who were wavering but who finally changed their minds after the stoke game and wanted him out.
Their main worry now is more about there not being anyone better out there- who is available and willing.
Personally I think he's too set in his ways to be able to change or improve next season, and I don't see how he can change his pre-match team talks, which must be absolutely diabolical judging from the way the team come out and play.
I remember a pre match team talk scene from 'being liverpool', and he just jabbered random words at the players like:
'remember- keep it tight, movement is the key idea- and circles, and always harrassment, but also pressing- work in twos, run in threes, eat in fours, character is your enemy today, football is your reality. Remember, you must be the ball. Then be the goalpost. Then the flag.'
It just went on and on, and I remember thinking that this man did not have the faintest idea hiw to motivate a team if he thought jabbering a hundred phrases at them would do any good.
My old maths teacher could do a better team talk at 3pm on a friday afternoon.
06 Jun 2015 18:11:37
Would everyone be content with the below as our exhaustive list of signings for summer window?
A. Bogdan. Free.
M. Montoya.
J. Milner. Free.
M. Kovacic.
Y. Konoplyanka. Free.
G. Higuain.
D. Ings. Free.
Keep Ilori, Flanagan Back end of year, Sturridge late November.
06 Jun 2015 18:31:20
I'm not happy with Bogdan. Played 10 times for his club last year. No chance of him putting real pressure on Big Mig. I'd rather we signed a proper commanding goalkeeper that will organise the defence and replace Mignolet.
Mig will have a confidence flap every year. Those flaps could be the difference between success and failure.
06 Jun 2015 19:42:25
Totally agree with you Patricio would be my pick, but it does look like Bogdan is the preferred choice.
06 Jun 2015 19:47:29
I'd be happy with that choice
06 Jun 2015 20:09:30
Montoya and Kovacic? No thanks. the rest, ok.
06 Jun 2015 20:25:08
Bogdan is the choice because he's cheap not because the club think he's any good. We are bang average now a days.
06 Jun 2015 20:39:18
and Divock Origi to come in, not sure just how much he will add to the team but it's another name for the list
06 Jun 2015 20:50:00
I'd zell mignolet for patricio andvhave bogdan as backup gk
06 Jun 2015 20:56:27
Bogdan is a stupid signed.
We're picking a keeper that is never going to challenge mignolet.
We may as well just have ward as backup keeper
06 Jun 2015 21:18:57
Yes, that would be our best summer in years. I think mignolet will cement that number 1 spot although I would always want quality back up/ competition but GK isn't really priority anymore so it seems bogdan will suffice. I think a fullback that can play on either side would be a priority (with Johnson and hopefully Enrique and manquillo leaving) and Montoya is a decent option and cheaper to clyne. Milner and ings are practically done and I think ings is as good as a squad player, nothing more. Milner on the other hand should feature in our first 11 currently and is a good solid addition. I only see konoplyanka coming in if sterling where to leave (which wouldn't be a sufficient replacement IMO unless we use that money for a world class striker) or if markovic went on loan or something silly like that, because that's what we do. Higuain will not happen unfortunately, but it's the right sort of idea, that is the calibre of player we need to go for this summer in that position, because the glass will obviously break again next season and ings and origi will not push us on.
06 Jun 2015 22:15:26
To me, a top keeper is more important that a top striker with origi, ings and sinclair amongst the ranks. The fact that we bought Mignolet when we play a style of football that require a keeper with good feet is beyond my comprehension. Not good enough.
06 Jun 2015 23:06:23
As I have said on numerous occasions; it is not about this player, or that player !
It is about the quality of the coach/manager.
At the moment there is not the slightest sniff of quality.
07 Jun 2015 00:10:47
It is about the quality of player tho isn't it :S
It goes hand in hand, good coaches have great player. Simple as that.
Everyone praises RaFa, Evans etc
Yes they were good coaches but it was hard not to do well with the players they had. Where they suffered was the.investment to make them good teams - League winning teams but;
Fowler, mcmanaman, gerrard, alonso, carr, torres.
Just to name a few.
Brendan will do just fine if he gets the support going into this season.
Young players will grow and hopefully one or two additions will really help the group
07 Jun 2015 02:20:41
Had half a decent game vs Liverpool at Anfield and I KNEW we'd sign him eventually. Absolute joke he's average and the club is becoming VERY predictable
07 Jun 2015 04:50:27
Agree on part of your post but he's had 215 million worth a support with no CL and or trophies to show for it.
07 Jun 2015 08:22:56
We will end up with;
Milner, Ings, Bogdan, Clyne, Benteke, Cheryshev. Cheryshev only if Sterling leaves, can't see us getting Kova/Higuain
06 Jun 2015 17:49:41
So according to the metro over the last two days we're signing Tevez, Kovacic, Casillas and Arbeloa.
In the words of John Henry "what are they smoking over there?"
06 Jun 2015 17:49:25
Hello Eds.
What is your opinion on Sami Hyypia as a coach?
Do u think Gary Mcallister will be a good addition to the coaching staff?
Thanks.
{Ed002's Note - Hyypia has had mixed results as a coach. I don't know which coaching staff you are thinking about in respect of GM. I assume you are not just going to waste everyone's time by listing random ex players and asking if they would make good coaches?}
06 Jun 2015 18:02:32
Ed002 I didn't mean to put names randomly. Since these were Ex players and rumours were suggesting the inclusion of ex players in coaching staff so I have asked the question as u have a better knowledge on these things.
{Ed002's Note - I am sure the fans crave the return of ex-players but it would in most cases make little or no sense. The club needs to move on. Obviously Hyypia is unemployed so he would eb available if the club decides to go that way. I can think of an ex-player who would be a far, far better option. Feel free to discuss Carragher, Joey Barton and the like returning to coach at Liverpool but I really don't want to answer any questions about them.}
06 Jun 2015 18:34:11
Ed 02 can I ask which ex player you can think of who would be far far better as a coach please?
{Ed002's Note - Bolo Zenden.}
06 Jun 2015 18:48:19
Bolo would be excellent. I hope FSG are seriously attempting to recruit him.
06 Jun 2015 19:26:35
Ed 02 thanks for the reply re zenden this seems to be getting stronger over the last few days and agree with you totally thanks again.
{Ed002's Note - The club has not made any approach to Bolo.}
06 Jun 2015 19:32:55
Ed002 thanks for the answer.Ed may I know why u consider him as a far better option?
{Ed002's Note - I am not going to get into any of that.}
06 Jun 2015 20:20:52
Ed in your opoinen who's the best coach we had in last 10years was paco as good as everyone says?
{Ed001's Note - Pako was fantastic, but he was mainly a fitness coach. You have to remember these days there are specialist coaches for different things, so it is difficult to say who is the best coach we have had. The senior set up really has not had that many good coaches since the Roy Evans days. Houllier and his coaching staff were awful, players just got technically worse. Rafa's technical coaching wasn't the best either, though Pako was excellent on the fitness side, again players were not improving their technique, though their tactical knowledge made major strides under him. Steve Clarke did well on the coaching side, he made a real difference.}
06 Jun 2015 17:15:22
Interesting report circulating, as sterling wants to near home, Arsenal would be his preferred destination which could trigger a swap for Walcott or Gibbs. Gibbs has recently lost his place at full back and with Enrique looking at the exit this could be a possible move, With Walcott in mind this would also be a 'like for like'. thoughts?!
{Ed002's Note - This was dealt with a few days ago.}
06 Jun 2015 17:26:38
Isn't Walcott out of contract?
Not convinced by Gibbs.
Arsenal need to show us the money.
{Ed002's Note - No.}
06 Jun 2015 20:12:18
They are both aweful and not wanted especially Gibbs who IMO, would be in the Championship if he weren't lucky enuff to be at Arsenal and English because my word, he is poor.
06 Jun 2015 20:47:05
I wouldn't call Walcott awful at all and personally, as much as he was massively overhyped, I'm not convinced Moreno is any better than Gibbs either.
06 Jun 2015 17:07:08
Hi eds
Settling in for the big game later?
Was just wondering, assuming that the theories that Rodgers is going to quit (pfft) because his staff were fired don't come to fruition. Does he have a say in who gets hired to work alongside him? Also can you confirm any likely candidates at this time?
Cheers
{Ed002's Note - I really don't know what you are talking about in terms of him leaving.}
06 Jun 2015 15:12:03
Edd001. What do you make of the staff departures and what exactly is happening if you know mate?
I'm confused. Is Rodgers getting all transfer control and better coaches are coming in? I find it worrying that the man who Imo was responsible for most of our mess is getting more control and heads are being cut that Imo won't make an ounce of a difference.
{Ed001's Note - it is not about giving him more control, it is about moving on people who are deemed to be inadequate for the role they had.}
06 Jun 2015 16:51:54
There's more than one way to skin a cat my friend.
06 Jun 2015 17:49:00
Rodgers blamed Pascoe and Marsh !
06 Jun 2015 22:05:19
I totally agree Ed001 re Pascoe and Marsh, but what I still cannot fathom is how the owners couldn't see how totally inadequate Rodgers was for his "role" . unless of course his "role" was indeed to be inept and devoid of any tactics or team cohesion?
06 Jun 2015 22:11:39
If they wanted to move people on because they were inadequate why has brenda still got a job?
06 Jun 2015 13:42:45
Hi Eds, is it true Lacazette has signed for PSG and has been loaned back to Lyon for one season? Does this have any knock on effect for players like Cavani, Lavezzi and Ibrahimovic? Thanks!
{Ed002's Note - You are on the wrong page, you want the European page as this has nothing to do with Liverpool.}
06 Jun 2015 13:26:42
I have heard from reliable sources that Ed1 has been approached to be DoF with Ed2 coming in as tea lady. I've also been approached to sit at the oppositions end of pitch each game and throw beach balls all over their penalty area.
06 Jun 2015 14:29:41
Sounds good! As long as Ed002 can keep his manners in check and keeps the snide remarks to him/herself it will work brilliantly!! :-)
06 Jun 2015 17:57:59
I fear with regards to the 'snide remarks'from Ed002 your asking way to much LJ !!!
06 Jun 2015 18:55:38
The jobs of Ed001 and Ed002 have nothing to do with Liverpool. You need to take this to the European pages
06 Jun 2015 20:33:28
Is this actually true or a wind up I believe edd 1 has said a little while back he didn't have the badges if this post is a joke my mistake
06 Jun 2015 13:41:53
To lighten the mood a touch, who's your favourite current Liverpool player?
I like Hendo but Lucas runs him close.
06 Jun 2015 13:46:58
Coutinho, the guy is class.
06 Jun 2015 13:57:01
Joe Allen
06 Jun 2015 13:58:02
Lucks all the way.
06 Jun 2015 14:07:48
Coutinho. Immensely talented, still seeking consistency, but humble and respectful.
06 Jun 2015 14:09:11
Coutinho.
Red Rum
06 Jun 2015 14:09:27
Coutinho. Could be world class and seems to love the club too
06 Jun 2015 14:23:31
Lucas, and coutinho
06 Jun 2015 15:17:12
Emre Can
06 Jun 2015 15:57:48
Balotelli. I just love his desire.
06 Jun 2015 16:23:56
Coutinho
06 Jun 2015 17:21:41
Sacko
06 Jun 2015 19:58:42
Jordan ibe, love his attitude, reminds me of john barnes. Could in my honest opinion be the next big thing if developed properly.
06 Jun 2015 22:10:35
Lucas - great ambassador off the pitch, always give 100% on the pitch - can't ask for any more than that. Also like that, despite getting a load of stick off a lot of fans in the early days, he still grafts and does his best for the club - a lesser man wouldn't give the commitment Lucas does. Can't believe Rodgers wants (or wanted) shot of him.
06 Jun 2015 22:13:25
Joe allen? Are you on crack
07 Jun 2015 00:29:23
Raheem Sterling
07 Jun 2015 07:17:38
Why would you have to be on crack to pick Joe Allen?
06 Jun 2015 13:30:54
our defence has been a total mess the last couple of seasons and don't think any more will be spent on central defenders given how many we have and how much we spent on them. could hypia come in to work with them to hopefully stop us leaking so many goals now ?
the thing that worries me with Rodgers is if he gets off to a poor start to the season and is sacked Christmas to maybe be replaced by klopp, fourth will be to far off again if we have lost say 4 or five games and we will have another "transitional" season. top managers like mournho have a plan a,b and c. if someone is not performing they will take them off sometimes before half time! Rodgers has no plan "b". he got lucky last season with a good run when he changed the formation with the 3-5-2 but when we where struggling towards the end of the season(hull, baggies, palace) he hadn't got the answers to get results . had no plan b. maybe if he gets the right striker in he may survive, trying to think wot striker would be best? aubameyang would he be a good suit for us ?what are his strengths and style I've seen he has impressive stats but only seen him play a few times when he's banged a few in champs league. benzima,higuin and j.martinez are all near 30 and expensive where as aubameyang is 25 and possibly realistic. cheers
06 Jun 2015 14:02:50
If "he got lucky last season with a good run when he changed the formation with the 3-5-2. " maybe he got "unlucky. " when we were struggling later in the season. And he was lucky that we finished 2nd and unlucky when SG slipped, we could have won the title if there wasn't the slip.
06 Jun 2015 14:10:50
Our defense has been shocking under Rodgers. When last prompted, Rodgers said laighably that the defensive problems are un-coachable.
Aubameyang is very quick, agile, and direct, and has a good shot on him, but I wouldn't go for him as I think he may lack that little bit of skill and understanding with other players on the field.
06 Jun 2015 15:38:54
I can see aubameyand creating a lot of problems for defences plus coutinho will thrive off his movement
06 Jun 2015 15:40:28
we could have won the games prior to the slip, and the slip wouldn't have mattered as it came very close to the end of the season.
06 Jun 2015 20:22:35
Clearly the owners don't trust BR anymore so why is he still in a job anyway? They weaken him first knowing full well he'll prolly fail and if Klopp is to take over in Oct for example, the season may be lost already so why don't you just get shot of him now and be done with it? I doubt that Klopp wanted more control or even if this approach happened because at BVB, former club can't and legend Michael Zorc is their DOF and handles transfers so why would he want control when he didn't really have it where he used to be? Answers, anyone?
06 Jun 2015 13:22:40
Just a thought. For all those raving about Monchi as DOF, remember he was born in Andalusia, came through the club's youth academy and retired as a one club man. He was perfect as DOF for them because he is a fan of the club and knows the club inside out. I wonder if he will have the same luxury here.
{Ed001's Note - he is perfect as a DOF because he has a good eye for a player with talent, nothing to do with where he is from.}
06 Jun 2015 14:25:08
He's a good DOF because he knows his stuff.
06 Jun 2015 16:18:03
Pointless comment! KK won us trophies as a player, coach hence fan but that did not stop him from winning the PL with Blackburn. A job is a job and either you know it or you don't.
06 Jun 2015 13:08:34
Anyone think a number of players have an influence in the changing of tue backroom staff?
Sorry, but I can't see this as a directbdecision from the manager
Something has been brewing for a number of months.
Why DID Stevie walk out of training?
It did happen.
06 Jun 2015 14:12:29
What are you saying? I thought Rodgers was infallible in ever way the way you have been defending him the whole season.
06 Jun 2015 16:20:11
I guess he isn't bulletproof after all, Davey. I guess you are now seeing what we all have been saying but your love in with BR blinded you from this. Sit back bro because this is only the beginning.
06 Jun 2015 12:38:00
Bit of a mess at the club (again)
Never boring being a Liverpool supporter is it, well not since hodgson left.
06 Jun 2015 11:41:13
i read posts from this site but never comment or rarely comment, my take on the rodgers fiasco is he has to go , even last season when we were going for the title i found his interviews cringey , he loved to tell the media how he switched from 1 formation to another , he was on talksport nearly once a week and for a manager to be so high profile with the media was and is doing my head in , i am not getting involved in players he's fell out with because that happens all the time ,but one thing really got me angry yesterday , for the record i do not paticular rate the back room staff at liverpool but for rodgers to let them take the flack and he stayed there was gutless ,like its gutless to take players he never wanted ,he was in a pretty healthy posistion when we came 2nd and he should have called fsg out over players he wanted and did not want but he kept his mouth shut ,i do not want a weak minded manager at my club and if it was a ploy by fsg to get rodgers to resign then he should went down with his ship.
rant over franky.
{Ed002's Note - Liverpool has suffered with very poor media communication over several year. The whole Runt situation was mismanaged, Sterling made a joke of himself and the club, Balotelli was always going to be an accident waiting to happen and Rodgers has put his foot in his mouth every time he has opened it. Added to that there was the complete disaster of FSG's choice of Jen Chang. I should not say this but within factions of the press, the current incumbent, Susan Black is seen as way out her depth.}
06 Jun 2015 12:42:10
To be fair ed002, before signing balotelli, I would've bet his distractions outside the game would've been a lot worse than they have been thus far! Granted BR makes does well to grab the headlines.
{Ed002's Note - I am not sure who you are referring to.}
06 Jun 2015 12:44:53
Ed002 so one of these behind the scenes changes is already wrong! that's a great start isn't it
{Ed002's Note - I really have no idea what you are referring to.}
06 Jun 2015 14:25:01
you said Susan Black is seen as being way out of her depth so does that not signal that she was the wrong choice
{Ed002's Note - She was not appointed in the past year.}
06 Jun 2015 17:05:08
Was referring to balotelli ed002. I'm just saying I thought he would steal the headlines every week for stupidity and it really hasn't been too bad; mainly because BR is a media teams dream.
{Ed002's Note - Well he was fined by the club on a number of occasions.}
06 Jun 2015 09:39:59
Hi ed02, could we please have your thoughts on the current changes made by FSG. Do you think it's going to end in tears or is their more to come. Your opinions are appreciated as always
{Ed002's Note - All aspects of the club have been assessed over the past year and many changes have been made. Whilst I would, personally, have removed Brendan Rodgers from his role, for reasons that are not clear to me he is still at the club. Whether this is on a probationary basis or not I don't know. What they club will do about coaches is yet to be seen but it is clear from what I know of the person forcing these changes, and the advice he has from one particular third party, that he will already have a good idea of the direction he wants this to go.
On balance, the changes made elsewhere within the club make sense but their fruition may not be visible through the on pitch performances.}
06 Jun 2015 12:19:29
Ed2 do you believe a Director of Football will come in and pick the new coaches? If that's the way we are going?
{Ed002's Note - I really have no idea about a Director of Football arriving but they will have a good idea already about coaching staff.}
06 Jun 2015 11:53:34
Their are clear pictures just emerged of Brendan and Colin Pascoe on the book depository during the Kennedy assassination. You can also see Suarez single handely pushing over the Berlin Wall
06 Jun 2015 17:11:07
That is total conspiracy rubbish of the worst kind. Everyone knows Pascoe was on the grassy knoll.
06 Jun 2015 07:18:25
Taking away from the transfer tatter
Hats off to Ed oo1 for predicting Hull for the drop and he explained they had a good transfer window but it depends how they are played and how they gel. HE was spot on!
And Ed002 said Balo will end in tears and I did not think it will be tears that would lead us to sixth place.
You guys put in a lot of hardwork and give the best (reliable according to me) info I/ most of us can have. Thank you for taking your time out and Macca! Hope we have a good transfer window followed by a good season.
P.s: If ED002 runs an internship or any sort such program I would like to be put first in the queue. Your depth of knowledge reg. football is immensely respectable!
Y.N.W.A
06 Jun 2015 00:40:55
Eds,
Checked search function, as of a few days ago it seems we will not approach for Higuain. Some time back Ed1 said he felt Benzema would suit our style more, however there now seems to be speculation of interest from Man U. Do you think he will move, and to where?
What other strikers might we hold an interest in actually pursuing?
Thanks for a great site.
Rob.
{Ed002's Note - You need the European pages for this. It is nothing to do with Liverpool.}
05 Jun 2015 23:22:03
Hi eds.
Someone earlier mentioned houlier. and you seemed to elude to a relationship of some sort with him. Just wondered what you thought of him. what's he like etc. Nit suggesting he's coming back or anything.
Cheers
intresting times ahead.
{Ed002's Note - Houlier is very well respected as a coach throughout the European game. He has been involved with Clairefontaine from when it was first created some 30 years ago and has been involved in the development of the programmes adopted by and followed by the various academies across France. He is well liked throughout the game, except of course by Liverpool.}
06 Jun 2015 11:59:34
May I ask why Liverpool don't like him? He's always seemed a lovely bloke to me.
{Ed002's Note - Liverpool sacked him in 2004 - and were close to a deal with Alan Curbishley before Benitez arrived.}
06 Jun 2015 22:14:13
David Ginola is also not his biggest fan ;)
06 Jun 2015 10:44:24
Not a fan of Brendan at all ! Never have been. However I won't get personal about him as a person because in don't know him !! Judge him on his record and ability as a Manager -that done.-he is clueless !
06 Jun 2015 10:56:04
also - he is not responsible for all the problems in the world not even to all Liverpool's problem. The fact that he is staying for example is not his fault but the owners and I am a bit sick of people blaming him for that as if he hypnothised him or something.
06 Jun 2015 11:19:40
Don't be silly, everyone knows Brendan Rodgers is responsible for Global Warming and that although the NASA took credit for the moon landings, it was all down to Suarez getting them there.
06 Jun 2015 11:24:54
It's time to stop the whinging and get behind the club and Rodgers now, hopefully he produce the football that nearly took us to the title.
06 Jun 2015 11:32:17
Personally, and I have said this all along, I don't believe Rodgers was mainly responsible for the transfers over the past couple of seasons, and to still have his job after the hundreds of millions spent suggests that the owners recognise this. I don't even blame him for the transfers of Allen and Borini who we know we're definitely his choice. A strong case can be made for signing those two players as players who had much potential at the time.
The thing with buying potential though, is not all of them will work out. It is very much a guessing game, and hopefully the transfer strategy will be different from now on. Like I have said, I'd like to see Rodgers given a transfer kitty to buy the players he wants with no specific criteria. Only then do I feel he can be judged fairly.
Red Rum
06 Jun 2015 12:26:25
He's actually a very nice person in private. Will go the extra mile to help anyone.
I'm his biggest critic and have been calling for his head since near enough the start of October but yeah he's a lot different to what we see in the press.
06 Jun 2015 13:31:08
You don't blame him for the players he signed?! Sure - maybe someone made him do it!
06 Jun 2015 16:27:05
He has been in charge of transfers from the word go and no one forced anyone on him. He has the final say on signings as the Eds have said here repeatedly. His record is dreadful overall and the fact that he wanted Delph and wanted Lucas out shows he should be no where near a transfer kitty which is why the TC was setup last season because the owners don't trust him with money.
06 Jun 2015 10:16:26
One played I am amazed Rodgers hasn't signed this window is Guidetti of City. Rodgers has tried a few times to buy him, but was always knocked back
. However Guidetti is now on a free contract. I'm not saying he will as I think he would have by now, but given his previous attempts and him being free it surprises me.
06 Jun 2015 10:15:50
As the eds have said FSG are doing a top down review, which has taken a while, looking at all aspects of the club. They have obviously looked at training sessions and reviewed peoples jobs. Rodgers had brought with him Pascoe as his assistant. Chris Davies head of opposition, Glen Driscoll as head of performance and Ryland Morgans as head of fitness. Marsh/Achterberg were already here. Expect those lot togo if not upto it and replaced with better, more experienced people to support him.
06 Jun 2015 16:29:57
So we are firing everybody else BUT the manager. This will be fun. Here in the States, the New York Jets did the exact same thing for two years with their manager and they got worse by the year until they eventually had the courage to fire him last year. Now, they are a mess, as we will be if they don't do what we all know should be done.
06 Jun 2015 21:58:54
Why don't FSG look at themselves? Liverpool should be champions, we are never going to get there with their paper ideas. Sell the club so we can be where we should be.
06 Jun 2015 10:15:09
Strange that a season ago Rodgers was the best thing since sliced bread. Now people call him names. Ok we have taken a step back, but I think we overachieved a season ago.
Yes he made mistakes, FSG made mistakes. Give him this season and then see but I thought Liverpool supporters were more had more to them than petty name calling.
Regarding the Klopp rumours where did it say Klopp wanted total control of transfers, as the last thing I heard he was having time off?
06 Jun 2015 10:38:01
I agree everybody is entitled to there opinion but the name calling is sad and tedious
06 Jun 2015 10:59:23
A year ago C.Pascoe was also dubbed the best ass. coach around. but yesterday he paid the price for our poor season? if Rodgers is not greedy and want this club progression, he should resign due to loyalty to his pal and to see whether fsg will get a manager better than him?
06 Jun 2015 11:15:37
Problem you have his through loyalty Brendan would be pretty much throwing his career down the toilet.
Would Pascoe be ab assitant manager at Liverpool if it wasn't for Brendan? I think there kids are still dating, so hopefully Pascoe has thrown himself out to hope Rodgers stays.
At the end of the day Brendan might od been remembered as the great loyal one who support his friends inadequacy's as a coach and gave up his job as Liverpool.manager to support him but now finds himself back in a mid table club, and will never egt to the top again!
He has to stat and try an prove he is good enough and continue forging hia good career.
If he leaves now he will be forever remembered as the manager who had a world class player in Suarez, one hit wonder and not good enough abf that's the case at all.
Ynwa
{Ed001's Note - if he is as good as he says he is, then he would do well enough to earn another chance at a top club.}
06 Jun 2015 12:42:53
But if he leaves now, he isn't going to any other top club. No matter how much he can talk the talk.
06 Jun 2015 10:07:08
Alex Inglethorpe as assistant or coach maybe. Apparently liked by players, staff and owners.
06 Jun 2015 10:25:54
Had the same thought, but wouldn't it be the same mistake? Promoting a youth coach to the 1st team. Lack of experience.
Not just a disruption for the 1st team but would spread through the youth set up also. For me I'd say he's doing a great job where he is for now.
06 Jun 2015 11:16:14
Alex is fantastic with the academy I wouldn't want to risk that by moving him up! Leave him were hw is doing a good job.
06 Jun 2015 14:19:44
I love the idea of this, however I think the club would need to be more stable in order for this to be successful. This works at Barca because the club is massively attractive for new signings, and hugely successful. We had our chance last summer when we had CL to attract the players to create some consistent success, thus make us more financially stable, and unfortunately the money was not spent well enough to do this, so we are back to square one.
No disrespect to Inglethorpe at all, I just don't think he has the experience to achieve what the owners want, neither does Brendan, but there you go!
06 Jun 2015 09:53:38
I personally think Rodgers job is pretty much untenable now and doubt that he will make the start of the season as the manager, looks like dead man walking to me.
06 Jun 2015 16:32:12
Yet they are firing everyone else but him. Talk about a complete cop out.
06 Jun 2015 09:28:23
Todays metro have said kovacic has agreed personal terms we've just got to agree a fee. Offered 15.2 inter want 18.1m. that's paper talk of today.
06 Jun 2015 09:58:48
Seems a good player, but will want first team football, so who drops out, I think a midfield 3 of can with milner and hendo just ahead either side would be strong, hope his plan isn't to keep can as a defender
06 Jun 2015 10:05:56
I agree mate with coutinho at the tip behind sturridge and a top striker.lallana and coutinho for the cams,lucas and can for cdm, hendo milner and kovacic for cm.
06 Jun 2015 11:16:53
Kovacic ain't coming lol
We just got milber to bolster the mid.
And we have good youth.
06 Jun 2015 13:34:28
Inter are looking for more than that. I'm told they are looking in the region of 24m euros
06 Jun 2015 16:33:36
They can keep it moving, then. We don't need him.
06 Jun 2015 09:15:08
In terms of players who do you think has been the best signing for us in the last 5 years and why?
06 Jun 2015 10:03:39
Has to be suarez on pure quality, but can could potentially become one if not our best
06 Jun 2015 10:06:48
Obviously Suarez, nearly won us the league and we made that money on him. Shame it was wasted.
06 Jun 2015 10:29:48
At this moment I don't see anything about Can that would make someone think that he could be one of the best ever
06 Jun 2015 11:15:26
maybe in his cm position we see his true potential
06 Jun 2015 11:17:16
Coutinho?
06 Jun 2015 11:17:48
Oh and ibe ab texiera were signed within the last 5 years and they could prove good players 😊
06 Jun 2015 11:22:32
10 years would be more interesting - pSuarez vs Torres.
Definitely Suarez last 5 years.
Don't see the hype about Can. Only one of potential to top Suarez is Coutinho.
06 Jun 2015 16:36:19
Red64, maybe if your BFF would play him in a position where we know he will thrive, we will have better chance of seeing him flourish in his best position in midfield instead of playing him at RB where he gets destroyed by the opposition at every turn
06 Jun 2015 09:14:53
I know it's not football-related but the women's World Cup starts today.
06 Jun 2015 10:11:45
Think I'll watch Colombia v Mexico.
06 Jun 2015 10:17:31
Ha. Do they still swap their shirts at the final whistle? Might be worth watching then.
06 Jun 2015 10:30:55
What world cup are you talking about if it is not football related
06 Jun 2015 11:30:01
Oh I see what you did there.
{Ed002's Note - For the shirt-swapping comment, you need to find clips of the 1999 final and the amazing win the girls had.}
06 Jun 2015 13:08:47
Hahaha why so many disagrees? This is a banter site after all
06 Jun 2015 08:45:38
Okay here is an optimistic perspective on current situation. FSG are changing management and coaching staff. The decks are being cleared . Brendan will go just as soon as Klopp is sorted Out . Negotiations with Klopp are progressing
FSG are trying to set out the parameters of control and they are still to Agee this with Klopp.
Bottom line is that FSG know Klopp is the man to get and in the end they will do the deals.
Hope I am right. At least for now I can dream rather than have nightmares over Brendan still being at Amfield.
06 Jun 2015 10:08:42
I doubt it mate, if the manager is goin, he's usually the first gone ,it is strange the way it's happening though
06 Jun 2015 08:42:47
If it's true that Klopp was asked and wanted full control of transfers and they let him slip off into the night to keep Rodgers then what an absolute joke!, what's more important here? The club winning things or the waste of space transfer committee? It seems FSG are intent on keeping a failure of a system in place at the cost of not bringing in a world class coach with a lot of passion and a good eye for players, oh silly me the transfer committee have already made a cracking start in spotting Milner, Ings and Bogdan all who could have been scouted via match of the day,
This club is unreal and turning even more into a laughing stock, as for the deluded who keep in even now about BR being the right man and needing a chance, wake up, I remember when this club were winners not also rans, put up with mediocrity and you get mediocrity, not me, if your in a business where winning is everything you get winners involved not two Bob shoe salesman parading round as a learning in the job trainee manager, even my 9 year old would pick a striker up front
So frustrated with the club right now
06 Jun 2015 09:49:59
They like geting free stuff
06 Jun 2015 10:23:10
I understand you being gutted on the Klopp front I am too. But at the minute we have Rodgers and that's it. At present a number of staff and coaches are leaving so the changes are beginning. We've signed a good free signing already in Milner.
I think the owners will be scrutinising the season and possibly if still not working out Klopp may arrive then. It could be better that Klopp gets the time away he wants and depending on how the season progress' is brought in January or summer.
06 Jun 2015 12:51:04
Klopp will soon get fed up twiddling his thumbs during his time off.
06 Jun 2015 16:38:59
Jones, why are they firing everyone else but the manager? That will only lead to failure hence, the whole staff should be fired and get the manager and staff they want in. Simple, right?
06 Jun 2015 18:05:30
I agree with you but unfortunately it's not my call.
06 Jun 2015 08:22:54
Guys, looking at what's happening the last couple of days it looks a mess. However I have never been satisfied that our back room staff have been at a level that we need. If you go back through history all successful managers surround theirselves with top notch back room staff, Jose had Steve Clarke, Ferguson had mclaren, Kidd etc wenger does the same as did cloughie and we all know our history of back room staff. Maybe they have looked at this and decided that simply throwing away brendan and taking the chance on someone else is not the right approach. the more we surround the club with top notch coaches the easier the managers job becomes, I don't think it's anything to do with Brendan throwing people under the bus to save his skin, no matter how good a manager you are if the coaches aren't doing their job it's an impossible task.
06 Jun 2015 08:57:40
It doesn't really matter how good the rest of the coaching staff are, you need someone in charge, who knows what they are doing and are ruthless, willing to make the decisions, call the shots, BR doesn't do this adequately, and surrounding him with great coaches will mean nothing, he probably won't listen, its why he surrounds himself with 'yes' men.
06 Jun 2015 07:56:56
Ed s reds just been on the radio that klopp has been spoken to he wanted full control of transfers the owners said no klopp said no and now will take a rest. Heard anything like this?
{Ed001's Note - yes I have heard it.}
06 Jun 2015 08:32:41
If that's the case then I don't think the negotiations with Klopp are done. Still believe we have a chance to bring him to Anfield.
Remember when Brendan was appointed they backed down on DOF issue. Now you could say that they have learned a lesson and won't make that mistake again but on the other hand FSG will know that Klopp is pretty damn special and the chance to get him needs to be taken
Still a chance in my mind!
06 Jun 2015 08:35:16
At least when Rodgers gets sacked in December he'll be available.
06 Jun 2015 08:39:21
I'm sure they could have come to some compromise if this is true, I think Klopp would be perfect to put us on the right track and set the team on firm ground, a DoF could be implemented for the long run and for continuity post Klopp in such a scenario.
06 Jun 2015 08:42:04
Heard it on the radio or heard from a reliable source ed?
{Ed001's Note - just heard it, nothing reliable about it, it comes from a journalist. Reliable sources will only say that there has been contact with some people with respect to the job.}
06 Jun 2015 08:51:39
Didn't it come via Micky Quinn? Lol.
{Ed001's Note - no, he repeated it.}
06 Jun 2015 09:38:22
If that were true and the owners really did speak to Klopp AND they have fired Brenda's team then surely his position is untenable.
Dead man walking.
06 Jun 2015 09:50:29
FSG: Ok Jurgen here's the deal. We are offering you the chance to manage one of the greatest clubs in the world. To restore glory and make yourself a legend.
JK: Wunderbar. I've seen the team though. Needs some work:
FSG: Yeah, about that. Leave that to others. We are going to have a buy to sell policy. So you will have some good kids to work with. And every now and again we will surprise you with somebody like Super Mario.
JK: So you want me to turn around your great club with no control over resources?
FSG: Exactly. You get the same salary but for less responsibility.
JK: And less chance of success?
FSG: Only if you believe you know more about football than we do.
JK: Isn't that why you called me.
FSG: Hell no.
JK: auf wiedersehen pet.
06 Jun 2015 11:18:58
I posted this a couple of weeks ago but it didn't get through.
Wherever kloppa goes next he will want the who gig, everything to be his say.
He's been a head coach at Dortmund and I think he wants the lot bow.
06 Jun 2015 07:44:12
Not a fan of what's happening.
BR is a stubborn man and refused to play the players bought last year (I assume by the committee). He initially refused the LFC job when offered under a DoF. The whole idea of a manager bringing his own people is that they share similar philosophies and ideas.
What will BR do if he doesn't agree with the coaches that are brought in? They don't coach the methods that he wants?
We may strike lucky and it comes off, but at this level I'd like to think that we didn't rely solely on luck.
How are the coaches going to react working for a boss who allowed his mates (who he employed) to be cut free, whilst not having the moral courage to stick with them?
What will the players think of this? I think they showed what they thought in that last game.
BR should do the honourable thing and follow his staff. Clearly that won't happen and FSG are going to bring staff around him to undertake the roles that he is incapable of. Seems a bit weak all round really.
Obviously I hope it works and I really hope BR proves me wrong.
06 Jun 2015 05:18:05
I must say, the recent letting go off Rodgers' cocahes, including his best buddy Pascoe, is a strange decision. I don't think FSG are doing this to pressure Rodgers into leaving wwithout paying his full compensation; they have been here long enough, have spend largre amounts of money and have recently shaken up things behind the scenes; all signs of well thought out work, so I wouldn't think they would do something un-ethical and cheap like seeming insinuation.
I am however, no doubting theit acumen. To me, they want to put in "their people" closer to Rodgers, people who they will choose no doubt based on the advise they are being given. A coach perhaps more trusting to them than Pascoe or Marsh will be put closer to Rodgers, and this makes little sense to me. I have never heard of a situation where the Manager has to deal with coaching staff he didn't pick/want. It could also be a different position with Rodgers being the coach and a personnel akin to a DoF being put in place. Either way, it seems as if FSG want someone they trust in the coaching side of things, and I can't see any of this working out.
06 Jun 2015 04:31:58
Just seen Rodgers' snapchat story - he had a BBQ today. Back to you, Ed.
06 Jun 2015 03:46:27
Any chance of Pako coming back now that he's left Maccabi?
06 Jun 2015 10:19:48
Can't imagine he would go anywhere for a position other than manager given the decent season he's had.
06 Jun 2015 11:23:57
He might team up with Rafa at Real, but can't see him anywhere else as an assistant.
06 Jun 2015 03:21:17
I would suggest that FSG are now in a pretty unstable position themselves, not just Brenda - they can hardly claim to be backing the manager 100% while at the same time sackig his coaching staff.
Something is not right here. Does anyone ever recall ths happening anywhere before?
06 Jun 2015 07:47:36
Pako left the club after he fell out with Rafa.
Maybe Rodgers had lost faith with Pascoe? They might have had a fundamental disagreement.
06 Jun 2015 08:01:57
Was wondering the same, Red Lenin. I don't know that I've ever heard of coaching staff being sacked quite like this?
06 Jun 2015 08:53:20
Marsh didn't have his contract renewed, not exactly headline news.
Managers split from assistants now and again. It's nothing new.
06 Jun 2015 02:20:39
Hi eds, quick question, in a DOF/manager relationship who gets to pick the team approach/strategy? Seems to me Brendan is a decent coach but not a great people manager so a DOF role might help there, but the other concern I have is the constant formation changes and lack of consistency in style of play and team selections. would a DOF have any input there? Thanks for all the work you put into the site, been really informative and learnt a lot about how the club works.
{Ed001's Note - it depends on the club, but usually the head coach decides them, but is picked because of their approach/strategy in the first place.}
06 Jun 2015 01:54:14
Hey eds, with the news about Pascoe and Marsh, obviously is clear that BR's position is far from secure. Would you feel that FSG will try and find someone with more experience to be assistant manager? Would you think that BR will be allowed bring in someone he wants to work with rather than the owners choice? Surely it would cause more harm than good to rip apart BR's backroom staff and start fresh, how you see this unfolding next season? Would it have not made more sense to sack BR too if they are cutting off his limbs?
{Ed001's Note - it likely to depend on the DOF. I have been saying for a few days now that what they are doing is a mistake. They should have backed him fully or sacked him. This is just making everything into a mess.}
06 Jun 2015 00:21:52
Help me out Eds!! All this shuffling and questions over rodgers future are driving me crazy!
I figured, perhaps stupidly that he was to remain for now in charge but everyone questioning this is making me doubt a little.
My question is if/when Rodgers does leave (cos this is never going to work long term) and we manage to get a top manager do you think the new backroom recruits will stay??
For me this is crazy because i would think most top managers would never want to work under those circumstances. i hope i am wrong because otherwise this looks like a long term nightmare
{Ed001's Note - it depends. Impossible to answer what ifs like that. There are far too many variables.}
06 Jun 2015 07:42:30
He is staying for the next season and it is about time that all the wishful thinkers here will accept it at last. He will not resign and not go without his contract pay whoever is fired, which the oweners refuse to pay him. Sp we are stuck with him for another season although I know it is a lost battle because people will keep asking if he is staying even in August as I predicted many time.
06 Jun 2015 00:47:34
Does anybody believe if rodgers handed in his resignation fsg would try to talk him out of it
{Ed007's Note - Don't you maybe think they want him to resign rather than sacking him? I don't have the insider knowledge of Ed001/Ed002 but what has happened with coaches etc is bizarre to me. Who's choosing these guys successors and will BR have any serious input on the replacements?}
06 Jun 2015 06:16:53
It definitely seems that way Ed007, it really makes no sense to me, perhaps a DoF will be brought in as suggested, but then surely why not change the Head Coach too, I can only see tension between Rodgers and the people around him in such a system, more worryingly would be if no DoF came in and someone else made the decisions on the rest of the coaching staff while leaving Rodgers in place. I'd be really interested to hear Eds 001/2 input on who they think should be Head Coach under a DoF if such was the situation of a DoF being brought in and BR resigning.
{Ed002's Note - Too many "ifs" - sorry.}
06 Jun 2015 00:16:05
Firing Pascoe & Marsh is a lot of micro management by the owners who don't know much about football. If they blame the management, why not just fire Brendan ? and who is advising them on these matters?
And what does it say about Brendan ? the manager who refused to work with a DOF now can't even have a say on his own staff. and he went along with it.
I think FSG knows the right move is to fire the manager, they don't want to do that because getting a new manager would mean a lot of spending and another rebuilding. Now just like Balotelli they will try to hire a known name of some ex players who may not have enough experience in management at all.
06 Jun 2015 03:43:49
BR would have thrown them under the bus to save his own neck. Still doesn't believe any of this failure is down to him. He's probably sweating like Sepp Blatter right now.
06 Jun 2015 07:44:57
Isn't any of the failure down to the inept decisions of the owners? Transfer boards sanctioning moves for Balotelli when days prior Rodgers said bluntly he would never come. FSG need to sell to an owner in which we can be taken to the next level, or soon we will be dogging it out with West Ham for Europa football.
06 Jun 2015 07:51:48
He had the final say on balo? Rodgers did. Who bought Borini, aspas and lambert and never gave any of them a run of games? Instead choosing to play midfielders there.
06 Jun 2015 12:11:01
spot on
05 Jun 2015 23:38:07
Eds
With juventus buying dybala, will tevez be leaving? Do we hold any interest in him? Scored 30 odd goals this season could be a great signing for us.
Cheers
{Ed030's Note - Good player but a lot of baggage. I wouldn't take him tbh. }
06 Jun 2015 03:04:25
What a pity. I always harboured a very distant hope that we might make a move for Dybala - guess I can bury that one.