Liverpool Banter Archive November 06 2016

06 Nov 2016 22:21:02
Just watching all the Torres goals again on lfc tv. Unbelievable how a player can go from being arguably the best striker in the world at Liverpool to then finding it so hard at Chelsea.

06 Nov 2016 23:32:22
His last season at Liverpool was not that great. With injuries and I'd say his head been turned by Chelsea and the lure of champs. League football.
I think he thought the team at that moment was not improving.
He was given assurances by the club that never materialised as Hicks and Gillette nearly bankrupted the club

If he waited he would have been partnering Suarez and along with Stevie G. I think they would have been awesome.

07 Nov 2016 03:19:06
The $ for suarez comes from torres sale so no way he be partnering suarez.

07 Nov 2016 06:05:21
Wrong again leek. Embarrassing.

07 Nov 2016 08:12:16
Suarez was bought when Fenway took over the club.
Stevie G begged Torres to give it another year. King Kenny was put in charge.
I for one wish Torres had stayed.

06 Nov 2016 21:21:24
Another great win and another superb performance. Top of the league for the first time since May 2014. One thing that impresses me most though, is how grounded both the players and the fans are. Like yes we are top of the league, but that we are not getting carried away with that fact. I don't know if it is because we have learned the mistakes from 2014, or if it is the leadership of Klopp that has a calming but assured confidence to our game. One thing when we were in the title race in 2014 was, I felt it was more of a "i hope we can keep this going", rather than a genuine belief we were going to win, it was more down to Suarez if he was on form or not. It is a totally different feeling this time round, maybe because it is the entire team, rather than any 1 individual who is driving us forward, although Coutinho is just amazing.

But I know whenever we go out into a game, i feel like we are going to win, and win by some margin. I think it is vitally important though not to think of winning titles, but just to enjoy where we are at, it is a nice change to be winning all the time and winning by playing outstanding football. Great weekend for us. YNWA.

06 Nov 2016 21:40:46
2009 and 2014 surely has taught to be grounded and take it a game at a time.

06 Nov 2016 22:35:54
keep calm and carry on winning! should be the mantra, as I have posted more than once this season, take it one game at a time, respect but don't fear the opposition and more importantly become a believer, this could be a special season, however nothing is decided in November as nice as it is to be top of the table, we have achieved nothing yet.

06 Nov 2016 23:37:25
A great win and overall the performance was goox but Watford failed to take any of their chances. A better team would have punished us.
Another borefest of an international break now.
I hope we don't pick up injuries.

07 Nov 2016 02:14:02
watfords' chances? how many were there? 2? what if we had taken all of ours? it would have 17-2. Ridiculous to look at this game like that.

07 Nov 2016 02:52:51
granted karius was called into action more than once, but we could have easily scored 12 goals ourselves, we should have scored at least 4 goals, before we scored our 1st, our attacking display was breathtaking, once we have a settled backline i'm confident we will improve in that area, matip has been very consistent for us we need to find a consistent partner for him, I thought lucas played well and was gutted for him when he did not score.

07 Nov 2016 05:33:38
Only one point ahead of Chelsea so we need to stay clear of the title talk because it could come back to haunt us. Just enjoy what we see week in week out orchestrated by Klopp. The club and players are in a good place and do not need unnecessary pressure from the fans especially when the media is trying to milk as much attention from the club's performances.

07 Nov 2016 08:20:30
100% agree with AG. We need to keep a lid on our expectations.

06 Nov 2016 20:44:36
Best wishes to Robin Van Persie, who has suffered the permanent loss of sight in one eye after an horrific football injury.

No matter who he played for, nobody wants anything like that to happen. In his prime he was an outstanding player.

{Ed001's Note - agreed, poor bugger doesn't deserve that.}

06 Nov 2016 20:54:09
Fenerbahce club doctor has said he's torn his eyelid and he has not sustained any damage to his vision.

06 Nov 2016 20:59:43
Happened to Momo Sissoko 😟.

06 Nov 2016 21:08:15
Hope it's true that he will not lose any vision. I was posting from Facebook link that said he would not see out of the eye again. Wishing him a speedy recovery.

06 Nov 2016 20:51:34
Poor bugger. That's awful. How did it happen?

06 Nov 2016 21:15:19
Ohh God! That's terrible news. Hope he recovers soon.

{Ed001's Note - turns out he hasn't lost his sight, or at least his club are now denying it. Some shocking scenes though as he was left stranded for about 20 minutes as the ambulance driver had apparently lost his keys! Sometimes the news reports filtering through seem utterly unbelievable.}

06 Nov 2016 22:09:22
Let's hope his vision is ok, not nice that at all, no matter what.

07 Nov 2016 09:20:05
That has me in serious laughter. There's nothing funny about van persie's injury but the ambulance driver losing his keys whilst someone needs medical attention is something else.

06 Nov 2016 20:17:38
Ed01 or 02 do you think it would be possible to get payet from west ham if we lose coutinho? quality like for like player? Have we showed any interest recently? I know we looked at him when he was back in France when comolli was with us?

{Ed001's Note - no.}

06 Nov 2016 23:28:20
Why he is too old imho for what he would cost and also if I remember has attitude problems. He might be OK af westham where he isn't under much pressure and is the big fish but the pressure and not being the top player at the club could bring it back.

07 Nov 2016 01:33:44
Why would we want him? When we have Ojo, come on.

07 Nov 2016 05:36:00
Nearly 31 years old. Too old for my liking and he simply does not have the work rate that Klopp would demand. I believe Coutinho will stay beyond this season once the club offers him a mega deal but in case he does leave, I can see someone like Dahoud being his replacement with Lallana being pushed up front with Mane and Firmino.

07 Nov 2016 07:47:24
Lallana up front again? Diasaster.

06 Nov 2016 19:56:38
Lots of praise for the likes of Couthino, Bobby etc etc. And rightly so.

I actually thought Matip had a really good game, first to nearly everything and he reads the game exceptionally well.

Brilliant all round performance by the team, including young Ejaria when he came on, some nice touches around the box.

06 Nov 2016 16:14:08
Time for match review ed.

{Ed001's Note - I haven't seen it yet. Got dragged out in the early hours after we realised at the last second the trip we had paid for thinking it was next weekend was actually for today! It would have been a really crap trip as well, but for the score. Thank you Mr Klopp for making this, despite a terrible day out, a great weekend. I couldn't stop grinning.}

06 Nov 2016 17:07:12
Another superb performance by us today. We dismantled Watford limb by limb. Firmino was brilliant, his link up play is so intelligent and again he gets his goal and an assist. Special mention to Karius who unfortunately didn't get his clean sheet but made 3 very good saves. A solid performance which only boosts his confidence. Thought Sturridge was excellent when he came on and was unlucky not to score.

06 Nov 2016 19:02:35
Thought we were fantastic today, but have to disagree about sturridge. He looked dangerous to score but doesn't contribute what are other forwards do. His movement isn't as good or frequent and think he takes a lot off of our teams defensive ability when he plays. Plus, doesn't put himself into challenges and needs to improve his weak foot. Hopefully this will improve as the season goes on, as he is one of our most talented players.

06 Nov 2016 21:46:44
Firmino has two assists from today's match like Lallana. He set up Coutinho's goal and Mane's second. Lallana set up Firmino's goal and Can's.

06 Nov 2016 16:50:51
We are top-o-the-league, say we are top-o-the-league!

06 Nov 2016 16:34:39
Firmino is just sensational. And he plays so well every game, you're almost tempted to take it for granted.

06 Nov 2016 17:01:47
Works so hard too.

06 Nov 2016 21:56:57
he used to give away the ball so cheaply and just in general look so casual on the field. He's not quite Suarez fiery, but he has brought some intelligent bite to his game. really good to watch him. remember when he returned frmo summer a bit pudgy!? lol.

06 Nov 2016 16:26:18
Did you see Karius' shot stopping? That with better distribution means he will keep Migs on the bench.

06 Nov 2016 16:55:16
Yeah he really impressed me today.

06 Nov 2016 16:18:00
We were too good today. No disrespect to Watford this match should have been 12-0.

06 Nov 2016 15:16:38
Man Utd move up to 8th in the league thanks to Liverpool decimating Watfords goal difference. Charity starts up the M62.

06 Nov 2016 15:47:33
Across the M62 😉👍.

06 Nov 2016 14:43:11
Supermane!

06 Nov 2016 14:59:41
7-1 is still on mate!

06 Nov 2016 15:11:57
I know and I decided not to place a bet as well! Hopefully it's 7-0 instead haha.

06 Nov 2016 15:49:51
Hmm, I jinxed it!

06 Nov 2016 16:08:01
MK that premonition was so so close mate!

06 Nov 2016 16:08:49
Thank god for that! I'd never have given myself if I'd failed to bet on a crystal ball dream like that!

06 Nov 2016 16:26:02
Haha bet the odds were something stupid!

06 Nov 2016
The real time live chat page is open for today's Liverpool match at the below link for you to talk to each other during the match
Liverpool Live Chat page

06 Nov 2016 12:18:10
Ed1 you off to your lucky pub to watch the game today? lol.

{Ed002's Note - Not today. His mummy and daddy are taking him to the seaside today.}

06 Nov 2016 12:22:36
Hahaha!

05 Nov 2016 22:47:40
So eds 2, I gather from previous posts you hail from the good ol' US of A. Spent a great honeymoon there just a month or so ago, what a fantastic place. Do you still vote? Any thoughts on how you see the election going?!

{Ed002's Note - I am from the US but have spent more time living in Europe than the US having left their 35 years ago. I get a postal vote but suspect this will be the final one. Hilary Clinton will very likely win but I would prefer neither option And Hunter Thompson would never have blown his head off if he knew this election campaign was coming.

The US is a very large country so varies considerably. Where did you visit?}

06 Nov 2016 08:28:59
Flew to San Francisco and drove down the coast so stopped off at Monterey, pismo beech, Santa Barbara, Santa Monica, Laguna beech, San Diego, Palm Springs and Las Vegas. California is so different it's like a country in itself isn't it. I guess Hillary would be a less turbulent option for everyone, what do the fbi do if she's elected and they've found evidence to prosecute?! I guess that's not for these pages though!

06 Nov 2016 09:34:16
Ed002,

I know I'm way off football topic here but since there is a mini discussion regerding the US. A question if I may

Is it true that US citizens now living and working outside of the States are subject to taxation from the US government, even though they maybe have a small business in their UK for instance and paying the UK inland revenue?

{Ed002's Note - Expats need to file a US return like all US citizens and income not taxed elsewhere is then subject to the IRS determining what tax needs to be paid. What doesn't happen is double taxation unless the expat is living somewhere which is tax exempt. There is a provision that means that claims could potentially be made against someone paying tax at a lower rate than the US, but US tax code allows many deductions which can be beneficial. The rules then make provision for tohose who have given up their residency. My situation is rather more complicated after all of this time as I have tax obligations in more than one country.}

06 Nov 2016 09:44:09
Killary to start world war 3, or Flump to set the Western world back by 30 years of social advancement's?

Glad I'm not an American in this election!

{Ed002's Note - The whole thing has been a very embarrassing joke. Hunter would have had a blast with this.}

06 Nov 2016 11:50:49
I am visiting California in April and I can't wait. I lived in Wisconsin for around about a year and man it was freezing and boring because I was in the middle of nowhere, and we think we have winters bad! so yeah I expect Cali to be quite the opposite lol.

{Ed002's Note - (a) It depends where in California you are going - it varies considerably across the state. (b) Wisconsin has few redeeming factors. They do weird things with cheese which is worrying. (3) Cali is in Columbia. Never call California Cali, and never call San Francisco San Fran. But enjoy,}

06 Nov 2016 12:19:02
How come it might be your last time voting ed is it because you've lived abroad so long.

{Ed002's Note - No they don't have those sorts of limitations, in fact they have very few limitations, but by the time of the next US election I may have given up my citizenship.}

06 Nov 2016 12:29:32
I'll be there for 3 weeks, so I plan on getting around a bit but will be in San Diego, I have no idea what to expect it was m wife's idea so I went along with it because alwas wanted to visit California. Thanks for the tips btw! - Yeah Wisconsin seems to be obsessed with cheese, it's an odd place and when I was there they seemed to be years behind with everything, I almost felt like a hillbilly.

{Ed002's Note - San Diego is in the very south and the Old Town is lively in the evening. If it is still there, take your wife to Croce's (as in Jim Croce - it is owned by his wife) in the evening for a meal and a little live jazz. Go and find a concert by my long-time buddy Greg Douglass who lives a little north of San Diego. If you have a car drive up and around the surreal Salton Sea and Palm Springs is with striking distance and still a pretty regular haunt for me. Some of the coastal towns to the North are OKish.}

06 Nov 2016 12:41:02
If you give up US citizenship will you have one of the new United Kingdom blue passports when they come out or will be European (French) or simply a man of the world?

{Ed002's Note - It would have to be a UK passport (regardless of whatever colour they end up being).}

06 Nov 2016 12:58:28
Then welcome aboard Ed002 we are pleased as punch to have you join us.

06 Nov 2016 12:59:40
Thanks ed2, that sounds right up my street.

06 Nov 2016 13:10:01
Would have loved to bump into you in Palm Springs ed, perhaps I did and I never knew! Our time there was so topsy turvy with the weather, it was strange. Beautiful in frisco, raining in San Diego and Palm Springs! Still, a hell of a great place, you'll have a blast 16. Make sure to have a pint of 805 when you're there too, delicious beer.

{Ed002's Note - Another bit of advice is never call The City Frisco.}

06 Nov 2016 13:15:29
Admittedly had no idea who Thompson was until about 3 minutes ago. Have to say he has an interesting funeral ceremony. But, this dude was friends with johnny depp, and john Kerry; he can't be that politically astute. He didn't like Nixon, who I knew nothing about. But a lot of people didn't like Reagan, then he was elected and a lot of people changed their minds. I don't see that happening after this election though!

{Ed002's Note - You probably need to raed Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas or watch Gonzo.

Breakfast is the only meal of the day that I tend to view with the same kind of traditionalized reverence that most people associate with Lunch and Dinner. I like to eat breakfast alone, and almost never before noon; anybody with a terminally jangled lifestyle needs at least one psychic anchor every twenty-four hours, and mine is breakfast. In Hong Kong, Dallas or at home — and regardless of whether or not I have been to bed — breakfast is a personal ritual that can only be properly observed alone, and in a spirit of genuine excess. The food factor should always be massive: four Bloody Marys, two grapefruits, a pot of coffee, Rangoon crepes, a half-pound of either sausage, bacon, or corned beef hash with diced chilies, a Spanish omelet or eggs Benedict, a quart of milk, a chopped lemon for random seasoning, and something like a slice of Key lime pie, two margaritas, and six lines of the best cocaine for dessert… Right, and there should also be two or three newspapers, all mail and messages, a telephone, a notebook for planning the next twenty-four hours and at least one source of good music… All of which should be dealt with outside, in the warmth of a hot sun, and preferably stone naked.
-- Dr. Hunter S. Thompson}

06 Nov 2016 13:40:39
Duly noted ed.

06 Nov 2016 14:06:43
i didn't realise that was a quote till the end was picturing ed scranning a 3 course breakfast topped off with a flake haha.

06 Nov 2016 16:56:22
Brilliant, i love that.

06 Nov 2016 16:15:39
Ed are you secretly Hunter S Thompson? After selling the movie rights for Fear and Loathing and the Rum Diary did you fake your death to live out the rest of your days peacefully as the editor of a football rumours site after becoming disillusioned with America? Please say that's true.

{Ed002's Note - Sadly Hunter has gone - but I did know him way back in the day.}

06 Nov 2016 21:55:49
Just got to throw it out there Wisconsin is only boring ifn you're some kinda city folk that doesn't know where to go and how to camp. And yes we do have sex with cheese.

07 Nov 2016 12:44:40
May win most gullible poster of the year here ed but did you actually know him? Ever get down to bat country?

{Ed002's Note - I knew Hunter very well in the late 70s and until I left the US in 1981. After that he used to write occasionally and I saw him a few times between then and hius death 25 years later.

Barstow has no redeeming factors but I hear they have a restaurant.}

06 Nov 2016 05:04:56
Hey Eds, am I right in saying that we're set to lose both Matip and Mane in January for the African Nations?

Where will that leave us with cover at the back? Klavan and Lovren, with Lucas cover doesn't really instill many of us with confidence at the moment.

Not sure how match fit Gomez could be around that time. And what about Ilori? Any possibility of him staking a claim?

Cheers :)

{Ed001's Note - just Mane.}

06 Nov 2016 07:30:16
I think Matip decided not to go to the ACON.

06 Nov 2016 14:53:27
Nice to hear, shame Mane will miss out on some important games though!

06 Nov 2016 04:32:22
Hello Reds. Quick question, based on current form, who is our best number ten Couthino or Lallana?

06 Nov 2016 06:02:20
Lallana is number twenty. So obviously its Coutinho.

06 Nov 2016 10:42:07
I think he meant our best multiple of 10 😉.