Liverpool Banter Archive September 06 2011

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06 Sep 2011 23:37:14
i know we probly wont get him but imagine this line up beginning of feb:

------------------reina-----------------------
---kelly---coates-----agger--enrique---
-------------lucas----adam-------------
---hazard-------gerrard---downing-------
-----------------suarez-------------------

------------------doni--------------------
--johnson-carragher-skrtel-aurelio----
-henderson-spearing-shelvey-bellamy----
-------------carroll--kuyt------

What makes this post interesting for me is that the second string team looks capable of pushing for Top 4. Finally, we have a quality squad with able replacements in all areas. And you haven't even included Maxi, Suso, Morgan, Sterling............
The future burns my eyes

cozinoz

I don't think we will get Hazard but I would guess that we will buy at least one player.

The second team does look a lot better, but, if I'm being picky then Shelvey, Doni & possibly Spearing could be improved upon.

You have to say, we have came a long way in a short period of time.

The Irish Rover

Hazard is way overrated by most fans, imo. I will bet my house that he won't cut it in the EPL. He is just a flash in the pan only good enough in the french league.

Landing Adam Johnson or Ibrahim Afellay in jan would be a much bigger coupe for us.

BooDaBooze

06 Sep 2011 23:35:10
Ed, would you count Sterling as a young wonderkids like Hazard and Gotze? He's a year or two younger but I feel he could be even better in the future. The reserve games so far are too easy for him at the moment. I think Raheem will have a better future but needs to push for Maxis place in the team and will become even better when he doesn't need to win a game on his own because of the quality around him. Also how much do you think Syerling is worth at the moment? {Ed001's Note - Sterling is top class, I think it would be madness to consider selling him for anything under 20m, even then I wouldn't take it personally.}

Why would you take it personally?! {Ed001's Note - I meant I would not take the money if it was up to me personally to make the decision.}

06 Sep 2011 23:34:05
Starting XI for the rest of the season providing everyone is fit:

-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-Reina-+-+-+-+-+-+
Johnson-+-Carragher-+-Agger-+-Enrique
-+-+--+-+-+-+-Lucas-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-
-+-+-+-+Gerrard-+-+-+Adam-+-+-+-+-+-
+-+-+-++-+-+-+-+-++-++-+-+-+Downing
-+-+-+Suarez+-+-+-Carroll-+-+-+-+-+-

Remove Carroll from your line up and replace with either Kuyt or Bellamy. Carroll will not be an integral part of the team till he has learned how to operate better in Kenny's pass 'n' move style of play.

BooDaBooze

06 Sep 2011 21:43:03
Sorry Ed001, know how busy you are already mate. Jonson6 {Ed001's Note - it's fine mate, it will be coming though, I think it is a boxing site next to launch. We are having to put out a lot of sites to cover the costs the site incurs on servers. We had to get a lot of extra servers to keep the footie sites going during the transfer window and it is not possible to just cut them during quiet times and put them back online during transfer windows as we had to sign year long contracts.}

A new boxing site would be great Ed. Then i can explain to fellow Reds why i think that Floyd Mayweather Jr, is the greatest boxer ever. And why Manny Pacquio wouldn't last 6 rounds with him.

Blair Mayne YNWA {Ed001's Note - Jack Johnson was the greatest boxer ever in my personal opinion. The man invented so much of modern boxing that he has to be classed as a legend. Leaning back to take the sting out of a punch, the whole style Muhammed Ali used, both were him. And to do it all in front of a backdrop of being a black man in an incredibly racist USA, that takes guts.}

To true blair mayne the man was made out of steel and could keep it up for 18 rounds or until no more,also there gloves were like the equivalent of wrapping tea towels around you're fists.aintree dave

Ed001 - have you considered hiring server space in the busy times (from Amazon perhaps) instead of signing year-long contracts?

Plastic Scouser {Ed001's Note - no because moving server is a lot of messing about.}

06 Sep 2011 21:30:49
MOTD moment. Shaqiri Hat-trick. Can't believe KK did put in a bid............................lol

Chi-Paul

We should take a gamble on him his contract expires in january 2011

ed if you say motd fever then fine i agree but how many of them is it going 2 take to realise that this kid has something?

{Ed002's Note - Shaqiri is contracted for another three years. January 2011 was 8 months ago.}

06 Sep 2011 21:05:17
Downings having a blinder. If he maintains this form and plays as regular as his pattern of historical stats would suggest he will, £20 mill will seem like small beer.

Moreover, you have to feel for Villa. If they could hold on to their players they'd be up there pushing for a champions league place. Cahill, Barry, Milner, Young and Downing, all former Villa players!

Ozone

Plus if you add Bent, Given and even Warnock and Dunne then you have a British spine to the team. They would have been a handful for anyone.

If villa never sold any of them,they would have a quality team now!

..............Given............
hutton...dunne...cahill...barry
downing...petrov..milner...alrighton
.........young......................
.......................bent!

Lol surely barry cm, warnock left back and milner out wide...

Still not top 4

Jimbob

Barry used to play left back for villa!

It's about form if they were in the form there in now, and chemistry yes they have to like each other as well it all has to click you could say the same about most teams in retrospect.
aintree dave

Why are ya's arsed about what Villa could of been like if they kept certain player's? As the saying go'es IF! my aunty was a man she'd be my uncle!

Why would you mention Given and Dunne and then say British spine. Surely you can tell the difference between Irish and British.

Relax man its only 'banter'

06 Sep 2011 20:39:19
To All:
Whats with all the negative comments and insults to Eds and Macca and others who give their rumours> Come on people "rumour site" gives you all a clue. 99% of people or posters give their "rumours" and 99% ot the time they turn out to be rubbish, but again the clue is "rumours".

This is actually a very good "football" rumour site with decent content as opposed to the majority of other sites around.

Lets not let the content and quality of humour and rumour around here drop because of some negative posters, cause like it or not Eds and othrs do spend a lot of their time maintaining and updating this site and I for one quite like popping in often to acyually read through before i post.

Nothing is 100% certain when it comes to getting a players signature as events this window have proved, but it dont mean the club was not interested or tried their best to sign them. Lets face it, we want players who want to play for us. So if someone decides not to play cause they have a better offer elsewhere then leave then to it.

So keep up the good work all involved and a little mention to 002s sense of humour which can be quite dry and cutting..............
Jim22

06 Sep 2011 20:37:37
The reason why south america produces an endless stream of world-beating footballers who r hungry for success is simply bcos of their background.

Many grow up in poverty and football may be 1 of the v few ways of escaping.

That's why so many work so hard at it. They appreciate what the game has given them.

Andy Carroll has all the attributes to make it as a top striker. Smtimes I suspect kenny sees another alan shearer in the lad, like how he brought shearer to blackburn. But for andy to reach his full potential, he has to seriously learn to appreciate what the game has given to him.

I hope the south americans we have- suarez, lucas, coates etc- can influence him.

If that happens, we really juz may have the next alan shearer in a red shirt.

C'mon andy, u can do it. U can drink all u want in 15 yrs' time afta u retire as a Red legend. For now, start writing that legend.

Singapore Red

Suarez may have grown up in the Uruguay slums. But Carroll grew up in Newcastle. So I'd say they're about even

Red Ollie

Class comment

Very funny Red Ollie. lol

Blair Mayne YNWA

06 Sep 2011 20:24:58
Stewart Downing is playing very well so far. Beautiful assist. Just hope he gets through unscathed ready for the main event at the weekend
AC

He seems more comfortable on the right and i believe the crosses that Andy likes are what downing delivers when he is on the right and stops then shifts body left and floats in a cross with his left foot, these are the balls andy is good at attacking just meirles's ball in the city game when he was on the right and floated one in. Also as you saw Downing can go either way and setup the goal for young by beating the full back and cuuting the balln back with his right foot. I would definatley give downing a go on the right Belamy on the left Carroll upn front Suarez behind him and Lucas and Hendo in the middle this is how we should setup against Stoke should Adam be unavilable.

06 Sep 2011 20:24:25
Not a criticism by any means, but do you ever wonder what our squad would look like if Rafa had been given the transfer funds that Kenny has been given?

I think we'd be better today, but just a thought
Jacob red

I agree would have signed Alves, Simao, Jovetic etc etc and we would have done well and maybe won the league but what Kenny is doing is better as we are getting our identity back, with the right mix of british and foreign that all want to play the liverpool way and winning the league doing it this way surely means more.

I guess we will never know - but for everything Benitez done for the club he also made some terrible signings which people have widely criticised on this site. For every Torres, Mascherano and Alonso there was an Aquilani, Nunez or Degen.

It's like asking where do you think we would have finished in the 2009 season if KK was manager? Would we have drawn at home to Stoke, Fulham, West Ham, Hull and Everton? If we had won a couple of them we would have won the league but we will never know.

JRG

To clarify, what I meant was that our squad is stronger today with Kenny than if Rafa was still in charge and given the money.

I think Rafa might have won us the league with the right backing. All the Nunez and Degen type signings were done because the budget was limited - he knew a quality player when he saw one but just wasn't offered the cash. Tactically, he was very astute and his planning was meticulous and I'll always appreciate what he tried to do at Liverpool.
Having said that...KKs influence on the team and his player management skills are unsurpassed. He has a lot of Rafas attributes and more but likes to see the game played attractively rather than Rafas defence-minded approach. Only time will tell if he is more successful than Rafa but he certainly has us playing like LFC and behaving like LFC - a philosophy which made us so successful in the 70s and 80s. We should be highly thankful that the King is back and that our owners are giving him the best chance possible to win the championship. Remember where we were this time last year. All hail the King!

ITs depressing some times how little the fans on here know!

Liverpool fans always prided themselves on how much they know about the club!

Rafa spent 200M on players so he spent more than Kenny admittedly over a longer time period but still a bigger spend!

Rafa's problem was that apart from 6 or 7 good players he mostly bought rubbish.

Rafa me arse! Let's leave all that in the past now, and leave anyone (the rafa clut) who want's to keep harping on about it in the past as well. This is the new LFC & we don't need those kind of followers
Paul D

06 Sep 2011 20:23:22
downing looking really good for england tonight well played for young's goal and some good looking crosses coming in from the right
JJ blackpool

06 Sep 2011 20:10:53
downing doing good,time to let frank running in treacle lampard go, i hate wembley it's so flat with southern support,
aintree dave

Aintree Dave,

It's nice for the plazzies to get a day out.

Chi-Paul {Ed001's Note - it is usually fans of lower league teams that follow England, bit harsh to call them plazzies when they follow teams that never win anything!}

Didn't know that Ed. I would have thought it would have been the Chavs and Utd's London base that were the main home fans as that's what most of the English team is made up of (6/11).

Chi-Paul {Ed001's Note - no, it is usually the fans of teams who don't win much that follow England, probably to get their European experiences. I don't know why, but you only have to look at the flags and banners, they are mostly outside the Prem.}

Hey Ed001 aren't all English fans following a team that never wins anything {Ed001's Note - good point.}

If the thought process of not supporting you're own because there not the best just goes to show who and why are so called fans attack our club when it's down i guess,but no doubt there will be a different reason.

I forgot my name ed001 sorry
aintree dave {Ed002's Note - I find I have similar problems myself as the years drift by. I suggest that you try writing your name on a piece of paper, perhaps with the phone number of a responsible person, and keeping it in your pocket at all times.}

Hilarious! Whenever I'm having a crap day at the office, I just have to come to the banter site. And it's +0800 GMT here.

Terence Nunis

06 Sep 2011 19:56:43
hope this is the first eleven for majority of the season:

-------------reina

johnson carragher aggar enrique

-gerrard lucas adams downing

--------suares carroll


subs:
doni
coates
kelly
robinson
henderson
dirk k
bellamy

Id like to see Aurelio in there and injury-free. On his day he is one of our classiest and most technical players.

cozinoz

06 Sep 2011 19:52:36
Dont mean to be pedantic even,but lets to call it MMA not UFC, if men in lycra as in WWE can be talked about Eds, why not the fastest growing sport on the planet. I know you said we'll see Ed002 but the odd comment when their's a big fight coming on like Quinton 'Rampage' Jackson, the fighter/actor who played BA in the A-Team film that Liam Neeson was also in, against the Johnny 'Bones' Jones for the UFC light heavyweight championship, thats coming up later this month wont do much harm but its obviously your perogotive. Jonson6 {Ed001's Note - give us a chance mate, we have loads of new sites in the pipeline, it takes time!}

I can't see bones losing for quite a while (mind you i said that about fedor)

cozinoz

06 Sep 2011 19:38:20

06 Sep 2011 15:06:05
a question for the eds

kk seems to like workhorse players rather than flair if we got top 4 this season and 50 million to spend will kk go for a hazard type of player or stick with what seems to be working. {Ed002's Note - I would have thought he will go with what is working. I don't see a "flair" player being bought just for the sake of it.}


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Not sure i get this post, henderson, downing, adam, and saurez all have a bit of flair about their play ? or do you mean a type of step over 1 trick pony, ronaldo type flair

He obviously means players who can use many fantastic skills to trick opponents and although i hate Ronaldo i dont think his skills should be classed as a 1 trick pony

MJ

Agree with u mj. To use ronaldo as an example was a little bit stupid

what i mean is yes this summers buys have plenty of flair but all run there socks off with or with out the ball and all ways track back to help the team out.

dare i mention torres,babel for example both flair players but both useless to the team when we were under pressure as they just stood there waiting for the ball.

06 Sep 2011 19:05:12
Burmeister, re of the comments of Torres we all have our views on it and should just move on. Mascerano on the other hand went on strike for the game against City were they gave us a 3 nil hammering at Eastlands. If i'm not mistaken, flat refused to play. But tried,and has with some Liverpool fans has wormed his way back into the fans hearts by mentioning us after we beat Liverpool. He still would've got his move to Barcelona if he'd have played in that match. Got more respect for Ronaldo then Javier and thats saying something. When after one of the fiery encounters in the El Classico's, when he stated that Maschereno never dived or learnt to dive when he played for Liverpool. Thats the distain i hold Javier in. Jonson6

I've as much love for Mascherano as you have Jonson, well said mate.

Blair Mayne YNWA

Mascherano, Torres and Alonso all 3 left when our chips were down and hence I have no love for them. Alonso blamed RAFA and left, Mascherano blamed the management and Torres blames the team. They all blamed someone but never saw their own ego.

i have more respect for Meireles in that regards, he left when he knew he would not get any playing time in the squad and was not given what was promised. (Yeah, it was by different people and not on paper, but the Liverpool way is also about trust and faith)

Those smooth talkers are now only talking their way back into our hearts as we rise again. Not a coincidence, that Alonso was seeing at Anfield only when the Yanks left, his appreciation came when we got better and Mascherano the same.

Simply put, I would not appreciate a friend who left me when my chips are down.

Exactly Mate when the rose tinted glasses are removed maybe others will see what's in front of them but I doubt it?

I know this won't be seen on the site as the love-in between Mayne and one of the Ed's continues! {Ed001's Note - the previous comment is nonsense and this one makes no sense. Alonso carried on watching Liverpool every time he had a gap in matches with Spain long before H&G left. Some people are so bitter it is sad.}

Alonso blamed RAFA because it was RAFA'S fault he left. Alonso stayed at home for the birth of his 1st child, when we had to play Inter away in the CL. The relationship soured after that and things were never the same. RAFA then had to sell players to buy players, so RAFA decided to sell one of the best midfielders on the planet, just to get Garth Barry in.

I love RAFA but will always hold this against him. Xabi was and still is an LFC legend, this is the 1st post i've seen on here slagging Xabi off. Which makes it a little bit suspicious??

Blair Mayne YNWA

Actually Alonso was sold by Rafa to get Barry and he was told that he no longer has a place in the team
REDS4LIFE

Either way you can't class Alonso in the same mould as Torres and Mascherano. Alonso never forced the club's hand to get a transfer in the same way Judas and Masch did. I can forgive Masch a little as he seems to have tried to apologise with his comments after the CL final but he will never be welcomed to Anfield in the same way Xabi alonso will.

cozinoz

Given the chance Xabi would choose to play for us rather than Real...

numondo

Who cares he playing for madrid

Blair is correct about the Alonso Rafa axis. Rafa never forgave him for staying to be at the birth of his child.....what sort of boss is that? He could not drop him but the love in cooled and he tried to replace him with Barry which backfired. Ah, and we must not forget that Xabi did not play that well for the 18 months before they fell out. I've no animosity to Alonso at all and wish him well. Personally, I balme Rafa's man management skills...beware the man who smiles too much!
Iggypop

I have a question to you ed? If you are a manager of a project in a team and u need a certain person at a critical time. He refuses citing personal issues. What would you do?

I know I would fire him as he is paid to be professional.

In the end, sometimes our love for LFC makes us worship these professionals like GOD and overlook their mistakes. Why can they not be like Carragher who just put pen to paper without reason or question because he really loves LFC.

Finally, my love is for LFC, KK and Carragher as they are the true REDS and not for these players who just move on when a pasture looks even slightly greener sighting one reason or another.

I have supported a player in RED and will do that. If he leaves on peaceful terms I will love him and If he retires a RED, I will worship him.

Sorry, it seems bitter but I have still not gotten over the G&H era as it taught me a lesson in love - people love u only in the moment u r successful.

06 Sep 2011 19:05:39
Hey guys, just wanted to share a video I made about deaings...Please tell me what you think..

youtu.be/3KWUsLyNQ44

YoungRed

Sorry typo there, It's a video about our transfer dealings over the summer. Hope you like it

YoungRed

06 Sep 2011 18:20:49
Hi can anyone help me? I want to know if there is any good sites i can get 2 tickets for the Carling Cup game for a decent price. I live in Brighton and would be an amazing chance for me to see the mighty reds.

Google?

HodgsonOut

06 Sep 2011 18:00:39
It's being reported that the Backbench Business Committee overseeing the e-petitions, will not be discussing, as promised, the two that have, so far, successfully reached 100,000 signatures, until at least after party-conference season. The people have spoken, but it turns out no one is rushing to listen.

Seems like Hillsborough will run and run before we can get clarity and an explanation.

Now there's a surprise
The Real KB

Hmmm any Liverpool supporters sitting on the fence at the next election? Hope not.

cozinoz

06 Sep 2011 17:58:20
or leandro domiao

06 Sep 2011 17:57:55
Anyone who watched the ROI v Ruski game should now know how average Mc Geady is. Zero vision for a wide man. head is always down and cannot cross a ball. Please don't mention him in the same breath as LFC again.

Chi-Paul

Totally agree with you over the game he made 3 tackles and lost the ball ten times at least he runs around like a headless chicken ray houghton was having a fit over him im sure if u asked houghton if he was good enough to play for liverpool he would be rolling round the floor laughing
giblet

06 Sep 2011 17:54:27
i have a feeling we are looking for another suarez/zarate type player in jan; pato springs to mind

06 Sep 2011 17:22:54
I'm in the mood for some fun discussion. So I had this topic in my head.

If Roy Hodgson was put as Liverpool manager at the start of this summer (WITH the new owners) would he have made better signings then when he was our boss?

Signings Roy made at LFC:

Meireles
Poulsen
Konchesky
Brad Jones
Danny Wilson
Aurelio (Re-signing)

Personally, I think he would've mate better signings than this bunch over here. He's a good manager, but just wasn't ready for a team like Liverpool IMO. Thoughts?

RenegadeRed

You can talk about money all you want but there are some hard facts at issue here. Enrique cost just 1million more than Konchesky. The Meireles and Poulsen fees coud have paid for 2 Charlie Adams. Now I'm not saying Roy should have signed exactly the players we signed this summer but I think there were players available if he'd shopped around

Red Ollie {Ed002's Note -

Roy Hodgson might have bought better players, but that is not the point. The point is - he is a man who does not know what it is to be a Liverpool manager. An outsider who tried to change the Liverpool way of doing things and tried to change our winning mentality. An absolute sacrilege. Glad he was dismissed.

BooDaBooze

Not ready for Liverpool? He is in his 60's, if hes not ready now he has never and will never be ready for LFC!

Woy was that bad he ran sour-ness close as worst ever Lfc manager! But even worse a whiskey nose follower.

Jimbob

Result's and time in charge of Liverpool speak for themselve's! He may of been a nice man but without a shadow of doubt he was LFC's worst manager! What done it for me was his interview after the Everton game! NESV had just taken over and what he came out with he wanted to be sacked then and in hindsight should of been! Alphared

Roy signed Joe Cole - promised him central midfield, then shifted him left. He signed Meireles. another CM and shifted him right. He had no idea how to assemble a squad or team. He almost cost us Agger and Reina with his dire tactics also.

LIVERPRES

I think RenegadeRed got it right - Roy is a 'good manager'. Not a great manager though. Not even a very good manager. Not someone who can manage more than 6th in the league. His tenure at LFC now seems like a bad, tangled dream of face-rubbing, poor justifications and Paul Konchesky's mum. Thank God he's gone.

cozinoz

06 Sep 2011 17:19:08
Huyton Red, you make some very valid points.

I personally agree with what you have to say and would speculate that from a commercial perspective a new ground (maybe even groundshare with Everton) at central docks as part of the Liverpool Waters and Wirral waters schemes, makes the most commercial sense.

A new stadium would be a key driver in attracting external investment into the area and would satisfy planning requirements, whilst at the same time allow for the regeneration of the Anfield area as a whole. The redundant docklands area due to be developed by Peel Holdings may even by earmarked as an 'Enterprise Zone' and therefore attract a business rate incentive thereby adding to the financial gloss.

I think we as fans have to get real about this. You only have to look a bit further down the M62 and what happened at Main Road, very much a similar stadium in similar surroundings. Built up residential surroundings present constraints on development.

There red neighbours have benefitted from being located within a predominantly industrial land use area and therefore finalising option agreements and compulsory purchase orders on interests identified as necessary to any proposed ground improvement scheme are clearly far less onerous, time consuming and cost intensive than dealing with Mr and Mrs 'I've lived here for 50 years and I'm not leaving'.

Ozone

If I may interject Ozone. Some good points. When you say "allow for the regeneration of the Anfield area" though, how and by whom exactly ?
As u know, the area has been let go by the Council with a view to LFC doing their bit with a new stadium at Stanley Park. We just couldn't walk away from that committment, or the area, that easily now mate. Nor could I see Lpool Council happily stepping in and spending the millions needed to regenerate the Anfield area. I suppose the club does own some of the boarded up properties, but that would hardly pay for any future regeneration. Those properties, without a future plan, would be minimal value. We have to stick to our past committments mate. Face it, LFC has already made a right a*** of things with the stadium. Pulling out would only make it worse.
The Real KB

With all due respect real kb, lfc didn't make an arse of it, H&G f**ked it all up mate. They are not and never will be anything worthy to lfc in my eyes.
huddz red

Im assuming it would be a bit of give and take on behalf of both LFC and Liverpool City Council as part of a public/ private partnership.

The City council providing drivers for LFC to re-locate in the Docklands whilst at the same time enforcing regeneration obligations on both LFC and any incoming owners to ensure that the Anfield area isn't left in its current state.

The ideal situation 'The Real KB' for the Anfield area would be in no doubt to construct a new stadium in Stanley Park. This would pave a positive contribution to the region from both the development of the new stadium but also of the old site and regeneration package enforced through planning policy.

However, in this climate of economic contraction and public spending cuts, I would speculate that the decision makers involved in this process will assess whats best for their private bank accounts and also for the City of Liverpool as a whole as opposed to Anfield L4.

Ozone

H&G did mate yeh. But who alowed them into the club ?
LFC should have sorted all this out in the 90's in retrospect. Even Celtic got their stadium built then. I say even, only cos they don't have the same access to funds as LFC, not out of disrespect. But I think we owe it to the area now. Gone on too long to leave now.
The Real KB

If you looked at it purely with a cold business mind, taking all the emotion out of it, I would see the sense in what you say Ozone. But the emotion bit is why it would never happen. You can't quantify emotion on a balance sheet or in a report but the majority of fans of both clubs would never allow it to be disregarded.
I will be really interested to see the latest LFC proposals later this month. Not only on the stadium issue but from the wider regeneration perspective.
The Real KB

Yes the proposals will be interesting to see The Real KB, lets just hope that decisions aren't made on a purely commercial level.

If the emotional aspect is given serious consideration by the stakeholders then surely upgrading the Anfield stadium would be the only way forward.

Ozone

06 Sep 2011 16:04:08
I know this matter's supposed to be dead, but, I just can't help feeling that Torres totally screwed up by dashing off to Chelsea.

I remember the evening the announcement came that we'd agreed a deal for Suarez. I was, "WOW! Brilliant."
Torres+Suarez? Stunning things.

The most lethal, prolific marksman (Torres) in the world on his day side-by-side with the most complete schemer (Suarez). A tantalizing prospect.

Granted, Torres had been enduring somewhat of a bad spell, but under Kenny, he was gradually regaining his touch.
There was no doubt in my mind that, his being familiar with our surroundings and suited to our game, and with Suarez coming in, Torres would've bagged them for fun.
El Pistolero would've made him better.

What I felt at this prospect is perhaps better understood thru experience than description.
I'm sure this was the case for every LFC fan at the time.

I appreciate that fans would rather not talk about him, but lads, when at the crest of his wave, Torres was a splendour to behold.
The fantastic afternoons in the PL and memorable nights in the CL.

*his first goal at Anfield when he bolted and accelerated well past Terry
*ripping Vidic and Ferdinand apart
*that chest trap, turn and volley against Blackburn at Anfield
*that split second, lightning turn to beat Cannavaro vs Madrid, Anfield
*4-2 vs Arsenal, CL
*running Materazzi ragged
*0-2 vs Everton, Goodson
*2-0 vs Chelsea last season

I could go on and on. Fernando Torres won't go into Liverpool folklore, but in I'm in FULL agreement with Pepe, LFC fans owe a great deal of gratitute to Torres as he himself does to LFC fans.

The man chose us over money, and for the better part of his stay here, showed nothing but 100% commitment and did his job with distinction.
Despite how it ended, I consider myself very fortunate that I was able to witness such a talent during his best/peak years of his career in a Liverpool shirt.

Same goes for Mascherano. Not withstanding the Barca thing, you could never fault his commitment. Such a bulldog; just like Suarez, a fearless battler with spirit, desire and stomach for a fight, never stops running.
(His last game for us vs Arsenal, Anfield, typified the man.)

I've always been amazed by some South America's talents, particularly Argentines; relatively small in size but absolute coconuts; tough as old boots: Javier Zanetti, Luis Suarez, Javier Mascherano, Carlos Tevez, Kun Aguero, Ezequiel Lavezzi, Javier Saviola, Alexis Sanchez, Juan Pablo Sorin etc.

Baie dankie

Burmeister

Luis Suarez is Uruguayan and Alexis Sanchez is Chilean

Let it go Burmeister.
The Real KB

"We won't and we never ever will put one man infront of this football club" -Kenny Dalglish

Let it go. I respect him for what he has done for us, but I do not respect him for Judas.

RenegadeRed

We all know Torres and his agent made a huge mistake about putting in a transfer request but 1. He wasn't happy with Roy Hodgeson ( who would be ) 2. His form and passion had dropped to such a level his performances were lazy and not LFC standard 3. Lfc were getting fed up with his stroppy attitude thinking he was to good for team bonding sessions... So all in all who cares, We sold a player who seemed to have lost his abilities and replaced him with suarez who is amazing and carrol who will come good so do what THE REAL KB said and let it go this is an all new LFC with fire and passion look to the future not the past...

MJ

Torrres made no mistake he is picking up 200k per week plus

80K per week more than at liverpool

How is that a mistake


What have Liverpool won since Torres left?

Wise up your making yourself look silly!

What has torres won since he left liverpool

You do know Mascherano went on strike and refused to play for us, don't you Burmeister?

Blair Mayne YNWA

Torres has made a big mistake because he made a money decision over a football decision, he is not half the legend he was at anfield he is just another player at chelsea. Footballers make a lot of money anyway so a couple of grand here and there should not make you choose your destiny, you must weigh up all other factors in life and one is Money Does Not buy you Happiness or Respect!
Lfc made torres who he became and he left hoping he could carry that form ove and it is not going to happen.
hibsylfc

Torres has won a champions league spot and 80k more per week

Torres has won himself a reputation as a striker that has scored 1 goal in 19 matches.
How is that better??

dd

To the Chelsea fan in Torres's corner! Torres is a jinx at club level he's won nothing! and i think he left us not just for the money ithink he had a major falling out with Stevie G and Jamie Carragher! And you'll find out he's a jinx when you's win F**k all while he's at the bridge! Alphared

Who is this Torres guy?? Is he any good?

cozinoz

Very sad bunch of fans really sour grapes about Torres - its a pity you don't have it in you to acknowledge what he did for liverpool albeit he would not have done what he did without the magic of Gerrard.

Time to wish Torres well and move on afterall both parties got what they wanted Torres his move away from Liverpool and Liverpool got Suarez and Carroll not a bad result for either side.

Torres is not interested in being a liverpool legend.

He is only interested in being a Torres legend.

Prima Donna footballers like Torres are self absorbed they care only about themselves that's what makes them great

Torrres has a world cup winners medal and a euro champs medal for Spain he wants club homours to go with these and felt he would not get them at liverpool!

Very Few Liverpoool Legends are remembered by young fans

I posted once about Alec Lindsay (a Liverpool Legend) I don't remeber getting any replies, what does legend mean to him or more precisely the fans?

Torres wants the personnal glory and the money and if you are all honest with yourselves would you be any different in his position?

I did not defend Torres merely brought some rational rather than emotive logic to the rants about Torres, I am not a chelsea fan. However spewing vile at Torres achieves nothing. He is not succesful at chelsea because Gerrard is not there to set goals up for him, I think its that simple, Drogba would not pass the ball to Torres if his life depended on it and Torrres opportunities for scoring are limited they way Chelsea play and he is finding it difficult to adjust that would be obviously to most, I think!

06 Sep 2011 15:22:09
I think cappello should have given carrol more time before slagging him off this season i mean how many games have been played?? cappello needs to take a long hard look at himself we are beating below average teams in a awfull group at the end of the day and we have been there before remember the world cup! All i'm saying is give him some time he is only 21!!!
JJ blackpool

Come on, he wasn't slagging him off. He just said he needs to drink less than others as it affects him differently. That's perfectly fair, though he shouldn't have said it publicly. Let's not forget he also said Carroll was "outstanding" in the 2 training sessions before the Bulgaria match and that he will play a key role in the squad in the future. Capello wants Carroll to be a world-beater just as much as we do, and he's entitled to think he could improve

Red Ollie

Ok not so much slagging him off but he talked publicly again at the wrong time i feel.The season has just started ffs...
JJ blackpool

06 Sep 2011 15:06:05
a question for the eds

kk seems to like workhorse players rather than flair if we got top 4 this season and 50 million to spend will kk go for a hazard type of player or stick with what seems to be working. {Ed002's Note - I would have thought he will go with what is working. I don't see a "flair" player being bought just for the sake of it.}

Not sure i get this post, henderson, downing, adam, and saurez all have a bit of flair about their play ?? or do you mean a type of step over 1 trick pony, ronaldo type flair

He obviously means players who can use many fantastic skills to trick opponents and although i hate Ronaldo i dont think his skills should be classed as a 1 trick pony

MJ

Agree with u mj. To use ronaldo as an example was a little bit stupid

06 Sep 2011 14:58:59
When Gerrard returns Carroll will score more goals. With service coming from every angle it would be almost impossible for him to not get anything. Imagine the amount of service coming from the likes of Gerrard, Suarez, Adam, Downing & Henderson.
SLODGE

I've noticed that there has been tons of deliveries for carroll and theres been no goals when we've decreased thoose balls theres been goals a plenty so i think that gerrard will make them slow down the balls and we will get tons of goals

06 Sep 2011 13:55:36
New Lucas song from the liverpool way, to the beach boys good vibrations


We're singing about Lucas Leiva,
Hes giving us Brazilian flavour, (or fever)
We're singing about Lucas Leiva,
Hes giving us Brazilian flavour, (or Fever)
Lu Lu Lu Lucas Leiva!

GYRED

That must of took hours to write

Skip skip skip to the lu
skip skip skip to the lu
skip skip skip to the lu
skip to the lucas leiva
freak utd fans out

I like that one

I don't think this song will trouble the top 40

06 Sep 2011 13:05:11
21 Aug 2011 15:27:07
Sebastian Coates?

Giant at 6'5, makes Carroll look small.

He is strong, dominant and a major threat from dead ball situations.

Would be a risk I expect 10m would do it but he is destined for greatness. Young player of the Copa America. He is gonna be class.

I assume Liverpool aren't interested currently ed?

Signed Me {Ed002's Note - Nope.}
......................................................................
At least from now on say "As far as I know" Ed 002 without trying to be a know all,and this is just a day before Macca reported, not months before. Not saying you should get everything right but ridiculing posters and saying "NO" interest like ED002 is Commoli is a little over the line

{Ed002's Note - Fine, search the archives and take a cheap anonymous shot at one of the editors. And please, just tell me where I wrote "NO" in caps to ridicule this poster.}

NOW NOW! Neither the Eds nor Macca have 100% records.

We rely on their cander and comments because their records are more 'King Kenny' than 'Uncle Woy'. However, even the King doesnt have a 100% record.

Fair enough Eds?

Red Gart

What a strange way to spend your time

Sometimes i wonder why you bother Ed002? Damned if you do and damned if you don't. I would feel sorry for you but you don't need my pity, you are a class act.

Blair Mayne YNWA {Ed002's Note - I know it is hopeless Blair. Most of the supporters are great but a few of the vegetables spend their days hunting the archives to look for something to bleat about anonymously. I shall keep teasing them of course.}

Hey ED002, I made up a rumour in my sleep in 2009 that Aguero would go to City and I posted it here and you completely SLAGGED ME OFF by saying you hadn't heard anything about it, then a mere 2 years later he goes and joins City!! You're a joke mate

Red Ollie

06 Sep 2011 12:35:09
I would be happy if we managed to sign either Adam J and or Millner.

As I cannot see either been giving to much playing time at City........

Would take Affelay over Milner to be honest

Yup same but i'd take the albianian Shaqiri also strong, fast good shooting from distance

06 Sep 2011 12:30:02
Just reading on the Liverpool website the story on Kelly some way down the page it states,

It is no secret that some Kopites' interest in England extends only to hoping Liverpool's contingent return from games without any injuries.

And i couldn't agree more, i cant even remember the last England match i watched, i read yesterday Capello having a little dig at Carroll about his lifestyle. Me being 20 and from the northeast i do sympathize with Andy (well as much as you can feel sorry for someone on that much money a week!) its just the norm up here to go out for a drink at the weekend a stagger home in the early hours of the morning. He is however at a huge club and needs to be a bit more responsible if his drinking is affecting his performance on the pitch.
Personally i think Capello has the charisma of a brick and is trying to redirect some of the criticism coming his way due to his own short comings as a manager.

always a red {Ed009's Note - Do you not even care about the national team at the WC?}

Not really i try to ed a really do, its not like i cheer for the other team or anything. Let me put it another way would you rather see John Terry lifting the world cup for England or Stevie lifting the Premiership trophy then handing it to King Kenny.

always a red {Ed009's Note - The latter, probably. I hate meaningless friendlies and boring qualifiers too, but I have to admit I care during the World Cup.}

Ed , I am with the poster on this point , I eat, drink and sleep this game but if international football was abolished tomorrow I wouldn't give a hoot .

Whether it's good or bad , the clubs are far bigger than the national teams anyway .

I think during the world cup i watch the USA game and that's only because it was on in the pub, i probably watch more international games as a neutral, if the likes of Brazil or Holland are playing.

always a red

InInternational football infringes on my entertainment, we have only just got back into club competition and we have an international break. My team is the most important thing to me without club football international teams would be nothing without international football we would still have our teams to support

TC YNWA

Hate international games, just somewhere for our players to get injured. Also too far to go for a game, the stadium should be in the middle of the country.

Yes, and without international football the PL would not be what it is today. The gamble for clubs to bring in foreign stars is much smaller when you can see how they play against and with players already in the league. Football is a sport which can enjoyed at any level grassroots to international level.

Disunited kingdom we are these days sad really.
aintree dave

I hate the International breaks too, especially this one. What genius at FIFA decided to have an International break at the end of a transfer window? This just adds more confusion to clubs and players over possible transfers.

Blair Mayne YNWA

Ive never understood the term 'Meaningless friendly'.. Im a Liverpool fan till I die but im an England fan also and I want as many LFC players in that squad as possible cos it means they are the top players and we have them.. Imagine LFC only being allowed to have the players there to train for a day or two when a 'big' match is coming up.. we'd not win anything!.. England players need to play together as often as possible to gel just like any prem team does..
Its never meaningless..
ItsNotRocketScience

England come a long way behind LFC in my eyes.
The Real KB

Its the brass band that puts me off watching

Kop Bob

International football should really not come into it. I do not class myself as English but as Scouse. I laughed my head off when fat Frank got his goal disallowed.

06 Sep 2011 12:23:18
The last irish player everyone said wasnt good enough was shane long and he looks fairly handy for west brom,but personally im irish and i dont think mgeady would represent value for money,as he would cost between 15 and 20 million!
TQ

I honestly thought we should have gone for shane long i even said to king henry that long was a good player but mcgeady no he,s not good enogh if he worked on his final ball maybe but he,s 25 there,s better options for the price he,d cost been watching the ireland game he,s been dissapointing and i was sure ireland could do it theres 5 minutes left lets hope they do
giblet

People doubted John Aldridge was good enough to replace Rushie but he did ok?
Iggypop

06 Sep 2011 12:13:20
Really don't know why I started thinking about this but will we ever actually wear the controversial white/cyan kit? The only team I thought it may be used against was Villa but everyone else the slate kit seems much more appropriate for.

I know, most pointless post of the day is defo a possibility. Work is pretty slow!

Cheers
Greggers

06 Sep 2011 12:04:58
Could it be that the Stoke game,turns out to be more of a test for us then the Arsenal game,if so the maybe CL footbal next season will be at Anfield where it belongs.

The whole season will be a test of our mettle and not just 1 game against a club like Stoke. If we beat Stoke and lose the next game, what then?

BooDaBooze

I agree with the original poster, i believe the Stoke game will be more of a test than the Arsenal game. Its a perfect test to see how far we have come, could be a perfect game for Andy Carroll to silence his critics.
Amazes me how people now judge a player after 3 games, take Bale for instance, 3 - 5 good games last year ( the rest average ) and everyone puts his value at 40million.
Henderson started slowly ( not badly ) but everyone says we've over paid. its ridiculous how you are now expected to perform right from the off or your a failiure.
Thank god King Luis hit the ground running!

DMT07

06 Sep 2011 11:43:27
Rubbish..he is a decent player..the irish team was bad throughout, esp the 2 central midfielders..what about R keanes missed header..he was usless too..john o Shea, give me a break..McGeady is a good player, just wasnt good on the night, i have him at Anfield - Kenny wud only improve the player, as he is with the new signings!

I personnaly feel mcgeady is not good enough for liverpool i watch a lot of celtic games as well and couldnt believe they got the price for him they did es he.s very tricky but has no final ball i mean celtic were,nt even that bothered about him going i know a lot of celtic fans and they were its no great loss i know kenny could improve him but theres surely better avialable for the money
jz

I have just watched the ireland game just to see if i have missed anything on mcgeady seriously he has got to have been one of the worst players on the pitch constantly losing the ball at first i thought it might have been the plastic pitch but then i realised he plays there every week he made " good tackles even ray houghton is slating him he,s just not good enuff for liverpool
giblet

06 Sep 2011 11:02:08
Can anybody tell me why a flag of sid James on the kop

Sid James had a Daughter called `Reina`, Tenuous I know but cant think of a better explanation at the moment. Matty P

I thought it was that you went to Liverpool it was a "carry on"

Its not syd james - its alan sugar!

06 Sep 2011 10:40:36
Am I the only one who has noticed a lot of our players in the squad have leadership abilities? I just find it extremely interesting.

Gerrard - Currrent Captain
Carragher - Vice
Reina - Third Captain
Kelly - Potential
Shelvey - Former U18 Captain
Henderson - Current U21 Captain
Wisdom - Former U20 Captain
Suarez - Former Ajax Captain
Coady - Current Reserve Captain (Correct me if I'm wrong)
Kuyt - Potential
Carroll - Potential (Don't slate me on that)
Adam - Former Blackpool captain
Agger - Captain in Pre-season
Coates - Captain at every level for Uruguay

Am I the only one who finds this astonishing? I think its quite brilliant.

RenegadeRed

Don't forget Lucas was Captain of Brazils under 21s squad,as well.

I thought exactly the same thing mate. LFC used to be a team with lots of leaders- players who could take initiative and change a game, and inspire the rest of the team.
Bellamy's another captain too- and one who will get crowd going and raise the intensity in deadlocked or dull games.

I wanted Cahill for the extra reason that he's a leader too, but maybe next time...

The benefits of having leaders on the pitch are less easy to see than having players with superb skills on display- but they are there.

A team of leaders will always find some inspiration from somewhere in the ranks to keep pressing on, yet they can keep their discipline in defence.

I agree with you- I think its brilliant.

Cheski went down this trail when they had there brief stint of success,so its seems to be a winning formula.

Good Job but Carroll is not a captain material. Gerrard is best from all of them he play for 2 players when he in the field. thats what call captain

Agger denmark captain

Class of 2008/2009 - Yossi was captain of Isreal, Sami Finland, Xabi spain (on occasion), Keane Ireland.

It's kinda interesting I guess but I'm not sure what the point is: it could be good that we have players who can lead the team when we're down, or it could be bad that there are conflicting egos. Besides, most of these don't show anything. The ones that say "potential" are mere guesswork. Also, every club has its own youth team captains still in the squad at some point, it doesn't necessarily mean they're natural leaders because the captain had to be picked from someone in the youth squad. As for the others, Reina's not leadership material, just a reliable goalkeeper who organises his defence well. Henderson was U21 captain for 1 game after the team lost a bunch of players. Agger is not captain for any level. The only ones I'd say are correct are Gerrard, Carra, Suarez and Adam, with Shelvey and Coates also having potential. Besides, I'm not really sure what this is meant to signify. Poulsen was Denmark's captain for ages, and Kyrgiakos has captained Greece. Doesn't mean much imo

Wasn't Kuyt captain of Feyenoord before he came to us? Anyway, Kuyt would make a fantastic captain with his work ethic. A role model for all players regardless of which position they play in

Keith YNWA

06 Sep 2011 10:00:52
We got football rumours and talk wrestling....any chance of a talk UFC, Ed?? {Ed002's Note - We'll see.}

06 Sep 2011 09:50:03
Hey, wat's this about a partnership w nacional? I wana noe! Smbody tell me more please!:-)

Singapore Red

This is what commolli said to lfctv hope it helps.

"We are talking about a partnership with them that we would like to create over the next three, four or five years, to see if there is more talent coming through. Maybe we can help them to develop their standards and in turn have the ability to bring those young players here.

sorry bout the c+p ed
REDhunty

06 Sep 2011 12:11:24
Commoli is forging links with the Uruguayan club:

www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Liverpool-Nacional-partnership-Luis-Suarez-Sebastian-Coates-Damien-Comolli-article795429.html

cozinoz

06 Sep 2011 09:22:51
have you guys read about the partnership with nacional commoli is working on? gosh, i love our new managment.

06 Sep 2011 08:46:01
hi eds, was wondering if u knew the timescale of injuries to glen J and gerrard? cheers {Ed002's Note - Both should be training to some extent later this week.}

06 Sep 2011 08:23:09
how serious is adams injury is he fit enough 2 play stoke and who plays if he is injured?

vivek12011

I guess it would be our very own Jay Spearing, maybe Shelvey on the bench.

Midfield and attack would be
Lucas
Kuyt Hendo Downing
Suarez Carroll

Thanx but how serious is adams injury

06 Sep 2011 08:19:45
Ed001's Note - Capello is a very poor manager being caught out by a lower quality of players than he would like. He is under pressure and is trying to deflect the pressure onto others.}

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I just read this and said WTH.ed001 I agree with you on many things but you must check his records in italy and spain.to me what ever has happened with england national team under him is down to the over hyped english team and media which follows policy of over analysis of every thing.
He is a top manager his record shows that.his mistake was to take this england job.
A very ordinary english national side will fail to deliver even if kenny or alex were incharge.
Just look at comments of carra and g.neville.

Respectfully I disagree with you I think capello is top manager in wrong job.
Any national job is tuff because of the whole system where a manaager is not involved day to day.

I sense frustation in you when may be you said those comments.
To me england national football team is not among best top 5 teams in world.

Red indian

Poor team selection & bad tactics throughout the WC (where it HAD to matter) also poor man management. Club football in Italy during the 90's isn't like the international game of today. But to be fair to the man, trying to turn a bunch of celebrity hungary, nightclubbing, hooker lovers into a footballing force was always gonna be tricky.

He is a poor manager, so many times choose the wrong tactics and players out of position picking players that should not be in the team and leaving 1's out that should, the last world cup proved how wrong he got things

Poor team selection or Poor players .Lets be fair he had the best of the English players on show and they embarrassed themselves with their inability to defend and retain the ball.Capello is one of the top managers of the modern game managing the Elite of Europe but struggled with the ego of our players.

English players have lacked the technical ability of some of our rivals for years bar gerrard how many would even get into a world eleven .We have no god given right to believe we deserve to win anything with our players over paid and under achievers .We have hope with more clubs trying to play a faster and more attractive style of football this can only improve the national team as years to come ~England could be fielding Wilshere,Flanno ,Robinson ,Landsbury ,Barkley ,smalling , Jones and Morgan mos have the ability to pass and move but we need better preparation the U17,U19 and U21 need to get away from the boring defensive approach .Germany have managed to change the way they play and are a joy to watch .

Capello is not to blame come on we struggled against Algeria who got taught a footballing lesson by Morocco.WTF does not having a playstation in south africa got to do with anything , if your bored you over pampered egotistical fools go outside and learn how to pass a ball.

What England need and deserve is an English manager that way we learn to appreciate the likes of Capello, Umbrella anyone.

Don't think Real Madrid fans would ever want him back. His sterile brand of football was hated to a man at Madrid.
kidmillions

Capello is a terrible man manager. Just listen to his comment about A. Caroll... I wouldn't want to play for him if he started washing my dirty linen in public.
RHI

England do have good players are league is the most physically demanding in the world,
if you look at last years world cup no premier ship players played well in it for any country and it's not helped with not having a break at christmas also overbearing media and over the top expectation we haven't got a chance before a ball is kicked in anger not to mention all the bias on and off the pitch either, we are hated just look at the bidding for the next wc.
aintree dave

06 Sep 2011 06:34:34
{Ed001's Note - it is not really a drinking problem as such, he just drinks like a normal 21 year old lad. Unfortunately he is not a normal 21 year old lad and it affects his ability to be at peak fitness.}

urm ed001, can i know what do u mean by he is not a normal 21 year old lad? lol {Ed009's Note - He means that Carroll is a professional footballer who needs to be at the peak of physical fitness to perform, as opposed to the majority of 21 year old men.}

Jesus, If he drinks as much as I did when I was 21 I'm surprised he can even see the ball!

A footballer is paid enough to understand that his body is integral to his professional job. Excessive drinking effects the body and therefore impacts his performance at work!

He can out on the lash when he's 36 and playing for Kiddiminister Harrier's and not Liverpool taking home 80K a week!

06 Sep 2011 04:16:19
The only deal id make to sell suarez is a swap with ozil or alonso plus enough cash to buy messi and a buy back clause, surely he would have to fetch about 60m going on form and potential? Though mourino would probably ruin him. Chelsea will be after him soon enough im sure. He is irreplaceable atm tho. Aussiepool

Why is this talk about Suarez leaving starting now? Did the guys who were begging for Mata and Aguero get bored or something?

RenegadeRed

If we finish high up the league,i would be more concernd about someone coming in for kk,

You people are mad! Kenny or Luis are goin nowhere! Alphared

06 Sep 2011 01:37:06
wheres all these stories about big andy c drinkin too much suddenly come from? has he been gettin on the lash with gazza or something? im sure hes a lot more disciplined now hes here as hes under so much pressure to perform. plus kenny would never stand for it. dont know why people keep tryin to knock the lad, its all getin pretty boring.
carroll will be lfc top goalscorer at end of season.
im puttin it out there.
remember the name
mush.

Why can Kenny realistically do?

Transfer Carroll is the only option, he will not quit drinking!

Ah the anonymous Carroll-bashing manc returns. Don't you get bored of coming on here every day to abuse one of the best English prospects and a LFC player? Why give him such a hard time from behind your keyboard? Does he owe you money? Every day I read this site I have to put up with the same anonymous tw*t giving Andy a hammering. Your man De Gea was a bigger waste of money pal.

cozinoz

Look, nothing has changed, a journalist with no story just has to ask Cappello about Carrol and he's got a story. It happens every month - Carroll has not got a drink problem. Some of you need to use your heads a bit more when reading the papers.

Po

06 Sep 2011 00:45:57
ed id love to see ian holloway work under kenny at some point i think he'd be a great addition to the staff there and who knows kenny could make him a candidate for the big one in years to come as he too plays nice attractive footie and he seems to have the respect we all have for the king i know it's a bit crowded with staff at the moment but as i said at some point down the line i think he's a good bloke all round and quite a chirpy character the players would take to him instantly i know its a random post but just putting it out there to see what yourselves and others think of that it cheers fellas..JG..

Good Bloke! Chirpy Character! It's not the RAF! You know!
kidmillions

Yea i think you could be right charlie adam still thinks the world of him any other manager wouldnt have got blackpool promoted or nearly keep them up he seems like a good guy funny as hell tho he just seems to be a fergie bum chum tho i cant see him ever been a no 2 again tho he.s never going to be short of job offers after what he,s done at blackpool
giblet

He was great for plymouth argyle aswell in his spell as manager the best football weve ever seen at argyle

Always has to be smart remark by some unfortunate soul who feels the need to try make someone look silly...'kidmillions' says it all...if you youtube ian holloway theres a vid on there with him praising kenny's comeback and how much he idolised as player/manager..JG.. {Ed001's Note - who posted Charlie Adam thinks the world of him? That's funny! The players at Blackpool do not idolise Holloway in anyway shape or form, they think he lacks professionalism.}

06 Sep 2011 00:20:25
Alright Ed's and Reds not a rumour but i am looking for more followers on my twitter i'm a massive reds fan and also a Red Sox fan who are of course owned by John Henry. I'm a freelance Journalist so often catch wind of news either first or just after it breaks so my twitter is ideal for reds fans who want to keep up to date and also find out how 'our' baseball club is getting on. Please post eds, keep up the fantastic work. Thanks Oscar.

Twitter @OscChamberlain {Ed009's Note - If we're shamelessly plugging; you can follow Isaac_Ed009 Oscar ;).}

Follow no one except yourself all this following buiness leads to poor self esteem

if you want to see a hero look in the mirror

@ed009, i tried to follow u on twitter but i cant see the option to follow u even in ur full profile :-( {Ed009's Note - http://twitter.com/#!/isaac_ed009 is the link. Just under the photo there should be a button which says "follow".}

06 Sep 2011 01:22:03
best thing for liverpools future, anfield- stay or new ground- go............lfc