Liverpool Banter Archive April 07 2011

 

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07 Apr 2011 23:45:20
Ed002's Note - Liverpool fans used to have the reputation of being some of the best in the world supporting the club through both the good times and the bad times. Now we come down to fans who must have at least one current player to hate at all times, and fans who won't even give the players a chance before they join. Who would you want as a manager to replace Dalglish? Liverpool have had a pretty tough year or two and are doing a pretty good job of reshaping themselves. It is particularly sad to see the so called fans of a club who cannot get behind both the club and the players and help push on.}
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Very well said Ed002 - I appreciate your efforts, as a Chelsea fan nonetheless, to try and instill some common sense to some very shallow-minded LFC fans on here.

LIVERPRES

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 23:33:42
Carroll

Suarez. Miereles.

Adam. Gerrard.

M'vila.

Coentrao. Agger. Cahill. Kelly.

Reina.

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Rotations= skrtle Carra back up cb
Lucas dm
Johnson rb/ lb
Young wing/ off striker
Marveaux wing occasional lb
Kuyt st
Eriksson am/ off striker

Ed and all if we shaped up this way after summer do u think its good enuf for top 4 possibly even title challenge thoughts guyz.


Ibz YNWA {Ed001's Note - personally I would prefer not to spend money on Cahill, there are better players around for less money. But overall that looks a decent side.}

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 23:35:08
Liverpool will sign Charlie Adam for just £5 million should Blackpool get relegated. Adam has his heart set on a move to Liverpool despite what the tabloids say. He did nearly join spurs but they were just his 2nd choice, Blackpool scuppered the chance of a January move to Liverpool because of holloways arrogance and greed. Charlie is determined to make his dream move to the 5 times european champs!
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£5m is still too much. . bring back the aquaman!

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 23:32:05
07 Apr 2011 23:17:36
Why do we need big money signings? It does not guarantee quality or success. Examples?

Torres - £50m zero goals and looks a lost cause
Denilson £22m Did nothing for years in spanish league
Joaquin - £25m Done nothing at valencia
Ibrahimovic - £46m Lasted one season and did not do much in that
Kaka - £56m Is he still at madrid?

Big price does not equal good player all the time, it often comes witha very heavy weight.

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But they still score on Fifa, so most people on here will disagree unfortunately.

There are a whole bunch of players who would cost under 20 mil and would be excellent additions to the team.

Of course FSG will make marquee signings, we all want that. But not every signing has to cost 30 mil or more. If players who are available want to come to Liverpool for less wages than they would get at Chelsea, Milan and Madrid then they are the right players for the team.

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 23:28:58
Liverpool are trying to tie up pre-contract agreements for Slyvain Marveaux, Taye Taiwo and Philippe Mexes.

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 23:24:21
Hey all jus jotting down possible team for next season;
Reina
Johnson carra agger Cissoko

Lucas
Gerrard. Sissoko

Young. Carroll. Suarez
Subs;
Gulacsi, Kelly, robinson, ayala, flanagan, Adam, meireles, payet, marveaux, sterling, kuyt
Wat u think ed?
Fowler is god {Ed001's Note - I would have Payet in the team ahead of Young myself, but Cissokho is someone I would like or Juan Angel (I think it is, lightning quick lad we watched a few years back before we, for some unearthly reason, ended up signing Dossena, but we have been watching the team again so I am hoping it is for him). I would also like to see that Musacchio signed if we do get a centre half, he is quick, absolutely left for Villa for dead in a straight sprint at the weekend despite Villa have a start on him. We need some pace at the back and the more I watch him the more I like the look of him. He is comfortable on the ball as well.}

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 23:20:38
Please get real, we are not going to be signing 5 superstars in the summer. If we get one or two class induvidual players, along with some young, effective additions that allow for rotation and different formations then it gives us a platform to build on for a brilliant squad in a couple of years.

I don't think some of you really understand how football works unfortunately. I wouldn't sign Marveaux on Fifa either, but distinguishing fantasy from reality is pretty simple.
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5th and 6th it is then for the next 5yrs+
for the last 20 years we have had to listen to views like yours and though successful in all cup competitions the league has been out of our grasp. Winning the league is becoming harder every year and will carry on that way, but nevermind if you are happy with 5th and 6th then so be it.

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Ah ok, I see your point. So since City became stupidly rich (which we are not), how many titles have they won?

You are going to give yourself a headache dreaming of a sugardaddy to buy lots of overly expensive players - aint going to happen.

I completely agree that Liverpool need to add a couple of really class players to the team, but also some less expensive improvements to the squad.

Just looking at Sanchez on Fifa, his stats have gone down. I always new he was overrated.

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 23:17:36
Why do we need big money signings? It does not guarantee quality or success. Examples?

Torres - £50m zero goals and looks a lost cause
Denilson £22m Did nothing for years in spanish league
Joaquin - £25m Done nothing at valencia
Ibrahimovic - £46m Lasted one season and did not do much in that
Kaka - £56m Is he still at madrid?

Big price does not equal good player all the time, it often comes witha very heavy weight.

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 23:05:46
07 Apr 2011 20:57:46
Hate to ruin your point but united spent almost nothing and sit atop the table, arsenal spent less than city and sit second. You don't need big spending, just clever spending

I suggest you read my earlier posts I made before judgement, the other 5 teams above us do not need to spend big as they already have far superior squads than ours. Arsenal Manure have long term managers in place who have bought well over these years to establish superior squads, Chavski and City av chucked 100s of millions at it, and Spurs are the only exception they have a squad like we had 3 years ago a team that plays like a team!

With the exception of Reina, Gerrard and Suarez how many of our first 11 would get into the starting 11 of any of the 5 teams above us?

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My apologies, I mostly post from my phone so I don't always get to read earlier posts. I can see your point and did consider that before my post. I don't think that Utd squad is that much better than ours, they just have a winning mentality and (whether we like it or not) a manager who gets results when they don't deserve them. Can you really say fletcher is better than lucas? or that anderson is better than meireles? or vidic better than agger (apart from injuries)? I don't think so. They are just used to playing as a cohesive unit. Which is what Kenny is trying to instill at liverpool.

Rewflo

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 23:11:25
07 Apr 2011 22:50:40
Do you agree with my questioning of the Robinson scenario. He has talent, has been around a while, has had a first cap 2 seasons ago. . Give him a chance! Might not need to pay 20m for Coentrao. . Flanagan too at RB. Carra can't play RB, no pace anymore. {Ed001's Note - I would give Robinson and Flanagan a chance, but Ince was too greedy in his contract talks, his dad is a *censored* and is interfering. Personally I would get shot of Ince immediately and make sure his dad never has another excuse to darken the club's door ever again. Pacheco has also caused his own problems, but he has been given yet another chance with this loan period, he is lucky, not many young kids get the chances he has been given. Most of them would be out the door the minute they started playing up and not putting effort in. It is up to him to make the most of it now, he might not get another chance at Liverpool.}
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And this is why we havent produced much talent in recent years. We cut them for being teenagers who are always having problems with no suitable guidance. If Cristiano Ronaldo was at our academy when he was younger the same thing would happen to him. Then again we didn't sign him because his wage demands were too high. Unfortunately this is what separates us from united as they somehow get even their problem players to perform, with that kid who scored a brace to knock ours out of the FA youth cup a prime example (not saying this kid will necessarily make it though). All I'm saying is we need to try with our youngsters and give them proper guidance and counseling if need be.
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I agree and even said to a friend of mine that maybe we should focus everything on youth for the next couple of years and forget big money signings. At least that way we will end up with players who are interested in the LFC cause and not just on their own personal trophy cabinet like certain big money spanish internationals of recent years.

Our academy used to be excellent in the early 90's and it was a literal conveyor belt of talent, there was even a time when the entire England team consisted of united and liverpool players for a couple of months in the 90's.

Get that youth talent in the first team, give them a few games, this season is pretty much a write off anyway. We don't have much to lose by doing it but could give valuable experience to players who are only lacking experience.

Rewflo

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 22:50:40
Do you agree with my questioning of the Robinson scenario. He has talent, has been around a while, has had a first cap 2 seasons ago. . Give him a chance! Might not need to pay 20m for Coentrao. . Flanagan too at RB. Carra can't play RB, no pace anymore. {Ed001's Note - I would give Robinson and Flanagan a chance, but Ince was too greedy in his contract talks, his dad is a *censored* and is interfering. Personally I would get shot of Ince immediately and make sure his dad never has another excuse to darken the club's door ever again. Pacheco has also caused his own problems, but he has been given yet another chance with this loan period, he is lucky, not many young kids get the chances he has been given. Most of them would be out the door the minute they started playing up and not putting effort in. It is up to him to make the most of it now, he might not get another chance at Liverpool.}
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And this is why we havent produced much talent in recent years. We cut them for being teenagers who are always having problems with no suitable guidance. If Cristiano Ronaldo was at our academy when he was younger the same thing would happen to him. Then again we didn't sign him because his wage demands were too high. Unfortunately this is what separates us from united as they somehow get even their problem players to perform, with that kid who scored a brace to knock ours out of the FA youth cup a prime example (not saying this kid will necessarily make it though). All I'm saying is we need to try with our youngsters and give them proper guidance and counseling if need be.

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 22:49:33
As I said just my opinion but lebron James is massive in the American sporting world in fact HUGE , this means publicity of LFC will be getting reported all over America as we speak . . The chef kd7 YNWA JFT96

{Ed002's Note - This is the full story as provided by AP and corrected by Jimmy G of Boston, MA. Uncut by my hand.

LeBron James is getting into the soccer business, aligning with the owners of the Boston Red Sox.

Fenway Sports Management — the sister company of the Red Sox — said Wednesday that it has signed James and the company he helped create, LRMR, to a long-term deal to secure marketing and sponsorship opportunities.

As part of the deal, James obtained a piece of Liverpool FC, one of the world's most famed soccer teams and a longtime marquee franchise in the English Premier League.

"I can't even explain the level of excitement that we have right now," James' manager and LRMR CEO Maverick Carter told The Associated Press. "As far as my business career goes, it's one of the most exciting times. And the opportunity for growth for us is huge. The guys at FSM understand it too and they probably see it even more than we do."

The deal came together quickly, but Carter and James have been familiar with FSM owners John Henry and Tom Werner for some time. Their relationship was born, in part, through mutual acquaintances with Berkshire Hathaway — billionaire Warren Buffett's company.

And that relationship between James and the Red Sox owners presents a bit of irony — after all, James is a devout Yankees fan.

"It's strictly business. ... It's very humbling," James said.

FSM is owned by Fenway Sports Group, the parent company of the Red Sox and Liverpool FC and a co-owner of Roush Fenway Racing. James has had involvement with NASCAR previously, albeit on a somewhat limited basis.

FSM handles the marketing for the Red Sox, Liverpool and Roush Fenway Racing, and now it will handle James, too.

"That's the great thing about sports: It brings people together," Carter said. "And this is about business."

FSM president Sam Kennedy said Wednesday that the group is not looking to get into representing individual athletes, but the chance to work with a blue-chip brand such as James was too good to pass up.

"What FSM does for Roush Fenway, Liverpool and the Red Sox, we will now do for LeBron James," Kennedy said. "We will aggressively pursue business opportunities for him."

James has pursued marketing opportunities across the globe before, especially in Asia and Europe — obviously, two key markets for Liverpool as well.

James stressed that the relationship is a partnership, one brand helping another, and that LRMR's operations aren't being essentially taken over by FSM.

"There are very few athletes who can match his global reach, appeal and iconic status," said Werner, the Red Sox chairman. "We are very excited that LeBron will be part of the Liverpool FC family. LeBron and Liverpool each has a powerful presence internationally."

The deal being announced was part of a big day for James. Wednesday also marked the formal launch of his cartoon series on YouTube, "The LeBrons."

There was also a basketball game — James and the Heat hosted the Milwaukee Bucks. And that was the NBA's two-time reigning MVP's top priority, even with all the news happening around him.

"It just felt right," Carter said. "It just felt like a good day for it all to happen."

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07 Apr 2011 22:46:14
We should ALL GET BEHIND KK and lfc please because when Hyppia joined he was not a big sigining and turned out to be one of the best. Everybody behind the scenes are working very hard players do not walk into the club you know work is done to bring them and please show respect to the owners who want to do well and have shown so by buying CARROLL and SUAREZ they cost over 50 million that is astronomical we are SOENDING BIG SO STOP MOANING. WE ARE LFC.
hibsylfc

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 22:30:48
Can someone explain to me why they did this with james? i don't really know who he is

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 22:26:29
MOMO786


{Ed002's Note - Shirt sales bring in a very small amount of revenue. The big earners are things like Champions League, Europa etc.}

Forgive me if I'm wrong but Torres 9 has been the top selling shirt for last 3 yrs as of April 2010 ronaldo shirt sales created 100 mil even now the way Torres shirts are selling they probably recoup most of his fee even tho he hasn't yet scored for chelski, I'm not in disagreement with you champs league e.t.c bring in a lot of revenue but I think ull find the right signings e.g Suarez and so on can actually create as much if not more than there fee just through shirt sales.

MOMO786 {Ed001's Note - that is the entire total of shirt sales, of which a percentage goes to the shirt manufacturer, some will go to the shops selling the shirts, most will go to the government in taxes and only a tiny proportion will go to the team itself.}

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 22:13:53
Ed001 - Thank you for the Ince info. Can you tell me a bit more about exactly what is Pacheco's issues? Cause there def must be something that with his talent he never gets a look-in.

Surely all young lads have these probs, but Kenny is the type to take them aside and get their heads straight. {Ed001's Note - he was turning up when he felt like it to training and then not trying. I understand that it stemmed from his frustration about not getting a look in under Roy, but that is not the way to deal with it. Kenny has tried to involve him and kept around the fringes of the team to make him feel involved and see if that helps. It seems this loan move is his last chance saloon, though he has so far grabbed it with both hands so fingers crossed he carries on. I would hate to lose such a talented player.}

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 22:24:24
In my opinion FSG have been really cute in taking lebron James on board , I think it's gr8 business . . . The chef kd7 YNWA JFT96


can you explain why this is good for liverpool ?

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 22:25:10
Did anyone see Javier Saviola benfica, Iv always rated him as a player. 29 and looks great again

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 22:11:02
In my opinion FSG have been really cute in taking lebron James on board , I think it's gr8 business . . . The chef kd7 YNWA JFT96

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 22:08:44
07 Apr 2011 22:03:35
Falcao scored another 3 goals tonight. He's the man we should have got with the Torres money. Natural goalscorer.

-IamTheCosmos

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How was Hulk? Did he play? I was watching the PSV/ Benfica game to see Dsudzak & Coentrao amongst others.

No1SAfan

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 22:09:36
Ive just watched the game on channel 5 and Dszudzsak looks decent not sure if he's LFC class but id like to see more of him

ed have you seen him play before ? if so, do you think he's good enough for us ? {Ed001's Note - I haven't seen a lot of him, but he has always looked to have potential, but I would want to see a lot more before I judge him properly.}

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 21:56:59
07 Apr 2011 20:09:51
Living near Rennes Ive seen alot of marveaux and can see why people are worried his injury record is terrible and he is also small and have seen him out muscled alot which is a big worry when you think of him in the prem.However he is a very skillfull and fast left winger and should be a good squad player.I am also good friends with a couple of ASSE fans and the rumours are that payet will be joining us rather than PSG this summer hope they are right he is top class
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Might as well get Houllier back so the players can communicate with the manager next year. . Send StevieG for french lessons. . lol lol.

Just kidding. Houllier is proving me right how he is destroying Villa.

I do though like Payet & M'Vila out of the french bunch we linked with.

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 22:03:35
Falcao scored another 3 goals tonight. He's the man we should have got with the Torres money. Natural goalscorer.

-IamTheCosmos

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 21:55:31
Just a quicky, watching porto tonight, why don't we go for someone like Falcao, and take advantage of the financial situation in portugal, seems like a no brainer to me, the lad is class ! !

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 21:45:10
MOMO786 {Ed001's Note - I fail to understand the shirt sales thing? Yes it would be a plus if they shift shirts, but surely the only thing that should decide it is their ability on the pitch?}

Wat I meant was J.Henry has stated previously team will be improved through revenue created by club which I assumed includes shirt sales and marketing of certain players and bring value to the club to be able to compete with the top four.

MOMO786

{Ed002's Note - Shirt sales bring in a very small amount of revenue. The big earners are things like Champions League, Europa etc.}

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 21:49:34
Until you have actually seen him play a few times you can't really comment. You cannot know better than the club.
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Also Bob, this point is also a bit dodgy. Most supporters would not have bought Jovanovich, Cole, Poulsen, Konchesky and co. Might not have played for LFC, but saw them play for other teams and new what was coming. .

Again I repeat - lets take the rose coloured 'IRWT/ IKWT' glasses off and think for ourselves. Hopefully this will improve with Kenny, but we will voice our concerns if more duffers are made. Thats for sure.

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 21:42:03
Its about time everyone stopped with the Benzema rumour. His wage demands are ridiculous at 200k a week and he comes with so much baggage every LFC fan would have to go to the airport to help him collect it.

Robbo

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 21:37:32
07 Apr 2011 15:17:34
Oldado is an chance of Llorente. Soldado is an unnamed character on these forums, he is 25 and a natural born finisher; David Villa Esq, Valencia are strapped for money and I expect him and Mata to leave in the summer. I'm also told we had scouts at their last home game; not sure if its true.
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Scouts were watching tricky wing back miguel apparently

Rewflo

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Oh, was it Miguel, the portuguese one? I assumed it would be one of those two; hoped it

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Certainly agree with you about Soldado, he is a class player and would do well at Liverpool I think, funnily enough as I am writing this I'm wearing my Valencia shirt with Soldado 9 on the back! I doubt they would sell him as they only bought him in the summer, but they do have Aduriz and Jonas as back up and will need the cash.

Miguel will not be joining Liverpool as, though he is good, he must be in his early 30's now.

Also I desperatly hope that we at least have an interest in Mata, fantastic player, only just got pipped by Iniesta to the Spanish 1st team, would be a fantastic addition to the squad.

maka

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 21:38:09
07 Apr 2011 21:20:11
Just noticing all the talk of buying squad players don't people think that this is a geat oppertunity to start bringing our exciting youngsters through as of wasting money on average players that would just limit the chances of the promising kids and put the money towards buying fewer quallity players

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Spot on mate. I would be only buying a couple of(proven world class) first X1 players with the youngsters coming into the squad next year. No more jovaflops to warm the bench please.

I will bet you a tenner that if we don't buy a quality DM, Coady will come into the squad next season and take Lucas (the Brazilian International. . )'s place by the end of the season. Thats how much confidence I have in our young brigade.

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 21:35:39
We have a strong squad I feel apart from a few obvious players its its a starting 11 we don't have. Agree or not?

YNWA

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 21:18:58
Hi all imo we need a cb, lb, dm, 2 wingers and a striker these signings should be players like suarez who can fit in to the starting eleven straight away and would improve our depth of squad and get rid of a few eg, soto, poulsen, cole, jova but keep such players as kuyt, skrtle, Maxi, Lucas etc as they have prem exp and the fact theres the f.a cup, carling cup means many games in the season and all of whom can do a JOB, my opinion is that kk and co (nesv) will Target players who will go straight into the first team and be good for shirt sales etc instead of players like e.g jova. Ed ur thoughts plz


MOMO786 {Ed001's Note - I fail to understand the shirt sales thing? Yes it would be a plus if they shift shirts, but surely the only thing that should decide it is their ability on the pitch?}

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 21:30:47
No1SAfan {Ed001's Note - to be honest I have seen a lot of Ince and don't see anything in him, he is not good enough that is why he is not getting games. He has already been surpassed by Raheem Sterling, who is a far superior player.}
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I agree Ince will never be Ryan Giggs, and agree that Sterling is brilliant but not ready yet, but common Ed, surely give the lad a go before shipping him out? Amoo, Ince & Pacheco will leave without getting a proper chance - especially when we have such a threadbare squad with little pace or skill and they still do not get a look in. All Im saying is give the youngsters a chance.

Do you agree with my questioning of the Robinson scenario. He has talent, has been around a while, has had a first cap 2 seasons ago. . Give him a chance! Might not need to pay 20m for Coentrao. . Flanagan too at RB. Carra can't play RB, no pace anymore. {Ed001's Note - I would give Robinson and Flanagan a chance, but Ince was too greedy in his contract talks, his dad is a *censored* and is interfering. Personally I would get shot of Ince immediately and make sure his dad never has another excuse to darken the club's door ever again. Pacheco has also caused his own problems, but he has been given yet another chance with this loan period, he is lucky, not many young kids get the chances he has been given. Most of them would be out the door the minute they started playing up and not putting effort in. It is up to him to make the most of it now, he might not get another chance at Liverpool.}

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 21:20:10
07 Apr 2011 20:05:22
Ed1 this site is operative since last 10 years. . have u ever seen such hatred post against our players. .

I am from India and had no knowledge of football as game and never loved it. . . world named Liverpool. .

It is my urge to all the supporters please do not support few idoits who call themselves supporters but are actually greedy rascals. .

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You gave it away in the second paragraph mate and you still have no knowledge. Are you any better calling someone an idiot for giving their opinions, voicing frustrations or constructive critism? Go join the LFC website then please where they all hold hands and praise Lucas. This is a discussion forum.

True LFC fans idolise players who play for the shirt, give there all and are worthy of the shirt. These players we will support to the death. Perhaps some are tired week after week supporting players clearly not good enough for this club.

Too long has our great club been dragged down into mediocrity with undeserving players and this 'there is always next year' attitude. Fans are realistic and just want to see that their beloved club is moving in the right direction (towards being the best). We want to see 'LFC style pass and move football' and players giving there all. We will support win or lose.

If you will be content with money not being spent and our team slipping into mid-table mediocrity, then you are not a true supporter.

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 21:20:11
Just noticing all the talk of buying squad players don't people think that this is a geat oppertunity to start bringing our exciting youngsters through as of wasting money on average players that would just limit the chances of the promising kids and put the money towards buying fewer quallity players

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 21:13:38
In reply to:

{Ed002's Note - Thanks MPez. Just ignore the vegetables.}

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 21:16:02
LFC to sign

LB : BAINES
CB : ROLANDO / CAHILL
RM / LM : YOUNG, HAZZARD, GAITAN, JARVIS and PLENTY MORE
ST : LUKUAKU / CAVANI

Good times to come to anfield :)

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 21:09:16
How well is Coentrao playing! That's the sort of player that would excite the fans, are we still interested Ed? (mind you who won't be!) any chance?? {Ed002's Note - I think it is unlikely - he looked to be Manchester United or Baeyern Munich bound. Maybe Liverpool could express some interest.}

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 21:04:58
07 Apr 2011 20:57:19
********** Yes you are strange indeed Bob if you cannot answer the above question. I will help, M'Vila has been awesome all season for Rennes and broken into the French team. Marveaux has just been broken all season.
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At least give marveaux ten games before you say hes not good enough. It took 2 years for berbatov to produce for united and hed already been in England for 2.

Judge marveaux in December not before he has even signed

Rewflo
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Don't get on your horse mate. I personally think Marveaux is decent and is a good option. Was just explaining why M'Vila is in such demand and Marveaux is greeted with a bit of sceptism. I have watched M'Vila quite a bit this year and think he is fantastic. Like Viera when he was in his prime - without the dirty side.

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 21:06:12

This is my OPINION. And i'm fed up of getting stick because you post what i want as if it's what i think we wil get.
Buy Jan Vertonghen and Rolando and our defensive frailty is sorted for the next 7 years. Kelly Right Back. Wendt on a free transfer? All quality young defenders people.
Midfielder we should look at are M'Vila, Eriksson and Pjanic.
Wingers we should look at are Dzsudzsak, Jarvis, Payet and Marveaux.
Strikers we should try to sign are Benzema, Long and Sordell.
Mexes would be a good free addition.

Roll on the FSG years !
YNWA!

{Ed002's Note - I can hardly be held responsible for your posts being misconstrued. You should give a little lead in to each player, like: I think it would be particular nifty if we were to buy xxxxx as a defender; We should go for xxxxx to strngthen our midfield; A little damp patch appears when I think of xxxxx as our new striker. It really is not too tough.}

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 21:03:36

{Ed002's Note - Whilst I am sure it is a genuine and innocent enquiry - there is no way at all that we are going to open discussion and any such issues MPez. I am sure that you will understand.}

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 21:00:30
Maybe the reason Kenny does not play the youngsters is because they are not ready to play in the first team, if they have a few bad games people will then be slagging them off, and what is that going to do to there confidence. Kenny see's these players all of the time, and he knows what is best for them. I agree the club have wasted millions on average players, but I am pretty sure those days are long gone, due to the fact that Mr Henry will not waste the clubs money as he will now run it like a business and will want to see a return on the many millions that he has invested. the club is going in the right direction, and we need to be patient and support the team, and I am sure in the summer things will be very different. Keep the faith. Ross
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Guess the old saying if your good enough your old enough has been forgotten. . I agree with some of the under 18's, but then surely the reserves (as the name implies) should be able to step in if required? Did Amoo and Ince not play for the reserves? Two players with pace and some skill which we so lack? Amoo will prob leave without getting a chance. Pacheco too, then you will all cry! Kuyt does nothing game after game on the RW. Can Amoo do any worse getting a 15m cameo? I honestly rate Ince and would already be playing him on the LW.

And how did Jack Robinson become our youngest ever player, now we need a LB, he is fantastic week in and week out when I see him but never gets a game. But we use Wilson at LB (and I think he always looks uncomfortable there). Something doesn't add up to me. Hence the frustration. Perhaps we cotton wool these guys too much?

No1SAfan {Ed001's Note - to be honest I have seen a lot of Ince and don't see anything in him, he is not good enough that is why he is not getting games. He has already been surpassed by Raheem Sterling, who is a far superior player.}

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 20:53:32
Re: free transfers

People on here saying our record of free transfers is poor youd remember two things. .

First: none of our poor free transfers were signed or endorsed by the current owners or management team.

Second: what happened for one is not necessarily the rule, we signed slot of bad Spanish players under rafa but if we all thought like you guys then we would never have bought reina arbeloa or torres because nunez and morientes were rubbish. Football is not physics or maths were revisiting the same test produces the same results. Its wacky and mostly the same thing gives you crazy different outcomes

Rewflo

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 20:57:19
********** Yes you are strange indeed Bob if you cannot answer the above question. I will help, M'Vila has been awesome all season for Rennes and broken into the French team. Marveaux has just been broken all season.
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At least give marveaux ten games before you say hes not good enough. It took 2 years for berbatov to produce for united and hed already been in England for 2.

Judge marveaux in December not before he has even signed

Rewflo

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 20:57:46
Hate to ruin your point but united spent almost nothing and sit atop the table, arsenal spent less than city and sit second. You don't need big spending, just clever spending

I suggest you read my earlier posts I made before judgement, the other 5 teams above us do not need to spend big as they already have far superior squads than ours. Arsenal Manure have long term managers in place who have bought well over these years to establish superior squads, Chavski and City av chucked 100s of millions at it, and Spurs are the only exception they have a squad like we had 3 years ago a team that plays like a team!

With the exception of Reina, Gerrard and Suarez how many of our first 11 would get into the starting 11 of any of the 5 teams above us?

Curled1

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 20:43:16
I wonder why Marveaux is being soiled on these forums and M'Vila is in demand? Must be because one id available on a free and one costs £20M.

We have some strange fans.

Bob the Red

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Yes you are strange indeed Bob if you cannot answer the above question. I will help, M'Vila has been awesome all season for Rennes and broken into the French team. Marveaux has just been broken all season.

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 20:45:41
I personally think marveaux will be a good player. However not too long ago I suggested the possibility of aquaman comin back nd getting a chance and got blasted by eds (i forget which) saying he was too weak to handle physical league like prem. Now the same eds are saying a smaller and weaker player (marveaux) will do well. Why would aqua not handle it but someone equally as brittle be able to?

Just a point. I think both can handle it but think aquaman pines for Italy so much that he should stay there.

Rewflo

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 20:37:46
Mr. Henry himself said this week that he did not realise how poor our squad was compared to our rivals 20-50 million will not turn us into a top four team when all our rivals are out spending on us and have far superior players than we currently have Put the stadium plans to one side and put the team back together first that is and must be the priority. This summer needs to be a one off of some major investment on players to put us on an even keel with the
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Hate to ruin your point but united spent almost nothing and sit atop the table, arsenal spent less than city and sit second. You don't need big spending, just clever spending

Rewflo

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 20:05:22
Ed1 this site is operative since last 10 years. . have u ever seen such hatred post against our players. .

I am from India and had no knowledge of football as game and never loved it. . .but my love for the game started with Liverpool in 1998. . .

My love started with the history of Liverpool, grew after watchin them play, bcame passion after Istanbul and obsession due to fans of Liverpool. .

We Liverpool supporters are considered as best in the world for the "famous Liverpool support" and I carry myself with great pride and passion coz I support the best club in the world named Liverpool. .

But after reading all these post I feel really sad for this club, their players, staff and all supporters for few stupid fans. . .

It is my urge to all the supporters please do not support few idoits who call themselves supporters but are actually greedy rascals. .

U want Liverpool to sign big players. . do u guys really think after reading these post any player would even think of joining us. . let go great players. . not even squad players would join us. . nd how demotivated our current players would be. . .then who would play for us. . .I hope not those few stupid so called supporters. . . .

We know its been bad few years for us but being a Liverpool supporter all I can say this club, players, staff nd everyone attached with the club need our support. . .

Walk on, walk on with hope in your heart
And you ll never walk alone,
You ll never, ever walk alone

LFC lives 4ever

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 20:11:40
Please get real, we are not going to be signing 5 superstars in the summer. If we get one or two class induvidual players, along with some young, effective additions that allow for rotation and different formations then it gives us a platform to build on for a brilliant squad in a couple of years.

I don't think some of you really understand how football works unfortunately. I wouldn't sign Marveaux on Fifa either, but distinguishing fantasy from reality is pretty simple.


5th and 6th it is then for the next 5yrs+
for the last 20 years we have had to listen to views like yours and though successful in all cup competitions the league has been out of our grasp. Winning the league is becoming harder every year and will carry on that way, but nevermind if you are happy with 5th and 6th then so be it.

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 20:13:54
Hi eds,

What do you think on signing the Brazilian Jnr Dos Santos and Mexican Cain Velasques?

There both big and very strong and would bring intimidation to the club {Ed002's Note - I know nothing of it at all.}

Ha ha ha! I would prefer Rampage for his intimidation skills tbh! :)

Just a quick note re the recent abuse of a future player. I understand the editors veiwpoint re the 'amount' of nasty posts. .But I can also understand the worries of fellow kopites, as we've been pretty awful with our free transfer dealings in the past, haven't we? I'm assuming he's going to replace either Cole or Jovanovic, but less wages. Regardless, the summer is going to be very exciting, we all know that! . . under promise, over deliver. .

Speaks YNWA

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 20:27:12
Dszudzsak playing on Channel 5. Looking good, put in a great cross, and is getting into good wide areas.

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 20:29:30
Just reading the comments about Marveaux. I've been reading a fascinating article about him today. Whether we sign him or not he is going to attract a certain amount of dis-trust from fans soley because :-

1) A free transfer. You don't usually get many successes in this regard.

2) Our own recent free tranfers signings. Cole, Jovanovic are all currently sticking in fans minds as complete expensive flops

3) Our own failed Failed French revolution 10 years ago.

4) He appears to have injury issues.

5) No one has really truly heard of him or even seen him.

Many of the fans moaning have about as much patience as they have memory. It's in short supply. Therefore a majority will be coming from a position of complete ignorance. Add the points above into their thinking process and of course he will be a complete and utter failure before a ball has been kicked.

I have never seen him so could not pass judgment either way. The article i read today was in the form of a scouting trip done on him. As is normal with these things it was impartial and it contained good and bad things about him.

Whatever happens you can rest assured that the club will do their homework before deciding.

Until you have actually seen him play a few times you can't really comment. You cannot know better than the club.

Anyway, try switching on Channel 5 and watching two players who have been linked with us and just watch the two of them.

I wonder why Marveaux is being soiled on these forums and M'Vila is in demand? Must be because one id available on a free and one costs £20M.

We have some strange fans.

Bob the Red

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 19:52:44
Charlie Adam, Ashley Young, Balazs Dzsudzsak, Gary Cahill, Leighton Baines, Karim Benzema and Matt Jarvis/ Sylvain Marveaux will sign.

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 19:43:05
I love seeing the latest transfer speculation on here, but it seems that a load of supporters seem to have to vent their frustrations at not being Chelsea or Man city in terms of spending, slagging players off that have not even signed yet for not being good enough.

It makes for pretty dull reading and makes me slightly embarrassed of some of the so called support. If we want to win the league once, or maybe twice then we could buy superstars. Then the clubs massive wage bill puts us into debt, again.

Or we could just trust the judgement of Kenny. If he and commolli decided to sign a player like Marveaux, then it's because they have seen a relatively cheap opportunity to get a very decent squad player who can play in a number of positions.

I doubt the Eds really think that he would be the first name on a team sheet, but he will certainly add some speed and flair to a pretty slow squad.

If we do sign the player then I think that it is a step in the right direction for Liverpool football club. He will certainly add extra competition for starting 11 places, and provides different options in terms of formations and tactics.

Please get real, we are not going to be signing 5 superstars in the summer. If we get one or two class induvidual players, along with some young, effective additions that allow for rotation and different formations then it gives us a platform to build on for a brilliant squad in a couple of years.

I don't think some of you really understand how football works unfortunately. I wouldn't sign Marveaux on Fifa either, but distinguishing fantasy from reality is pretty simple.

Fowler9

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 19:27:23
Before the pre season tour of Asia, Liverpool will sign Honda and possibly another Asian player to boost the popularity of the club in Asia.

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 19:27:50
Why do people keep saying adam johnson
theres no way man city will let him leave
are the scousers gona steal him ????
coz that's ur only chance of getting him

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 19:31:17
Just read on BBC that Fenway Sports have given a basket ball star a stake in LFC. What are the implications in this? I don't get it, what has a basketball player got to do with us? It's hard to imagine him investing any time/ effort in the club. Can anyone give any more info? {Ed002's Note - It is explained in messages posted earlier in the day.}

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 18:07:31
Hi eds,

What do you think on signing the Brazilian Jnr Dos Santos and Mexican Cain Velasques?

There both big and very strong and would bring intimidation to the club {Ed002's Note - I know nothing of it at all.}

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 18:32:12
What dya think ed ? {Ed001's Note - he looks a good player, good sound bite as well, but I won't get carried away on that, he might just be trying to get a move away from Russia.}- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - doubt that ed considering he plays in Ukraine lol {Ed001's Note - yeah, sorry I forget it is no longer one country, I was even looking at the table there about ten seconds before I typed it so no excuse other than stupidity!}

wow a mistake from one of the eds, my faith has been shattered

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 18:35:26
I live in Spain and have a few Atletico Madrid fans. They are indicating that if Davide De Gea goes to United then Atletico will try and take Reina to Madrid. They even believe that they may not need to pay anything as they expect United to pay over 20mil for De Gea and get Reina for about the same with his buy out clause.

This makes some ssnse as although it is a clown school, Atletico are one of the big four teams in Spain. Also Reina's father was Goalkeeper at atletico in the 70's and is supposed to have grown up supporting them.
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If Pepe leaves Liverpool it will be to a club in champions league and not to one that is struggling to get into Europa and on downward trend.
Your reasons do make sense, but I think Reina ambitions is the factor of him leaving and nothing else.

Roy

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 18:41:18
I have it on good authority that we will be signing the following in the summer: -
LB - Baines
CM - Benega
RM - Ashley Young
LM - Adam Johnson
ST - Benzema

**any chance that your good authority is the fact that everyone on this and EVERY rumour site has already stated this?

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The thing the original poster is going to be so disappointed because most likely none of the mentioned above will sign . we are looking else where.

Roy

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 18:45:33
I think with Gerrard, Johnson and Aggar out for a while we should bring in some of the promising reserves/ youth and give one or two them some prem experience for small parts of a few games. See how they get on as replacements for the likes of Maxi and Ngog and Jovanovich for next season. . if players like these are still here next season I'll be in shock! Nice lads I'm sure (I don't hate them) but not up to the standard.

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 18:45:51
Where i agree spending big is a great option for sucess but spending wisely is much more important, we kno FSG don't hav an untapped pot of wealth so the need to spend however big or small has to be done wisely so that the players coming in are going to be right for the club, 150m in summer isn't always right for the club, city spent god knos how much now they hav a dressing room full of squabbling prima donas


Agreed but you seem to be missing the point, City are now sat in our champions league spot and will remain there this season after spending big, the days of spending wisely are history. All the top players want champions league football, our current squad is nowhere near as good as the team sat directly above us in the league (spurs).

Mr. Henry himself said this week that he did not realise how poor our squad was compared to our rivals, 20-50 million will not turn us into a top four team when all our rivals are out spending on us and have far superior players than we currently have.

Put the stadium plans to one side and put the team back together first that is and must be the priority. This summer needs to be a one off of some major investment on players to put us on an even keel with the current top 5

Curled1

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 17:55:24
No1SAfan {Ed001's Note - didn't Liverpool win the league repeatedly with a number of players that would be seen as nothing more than squad players? The likes of Alan Kennedy, much as I love him, can never be considered as the greatest of players in their position. But they made up a part of a great team and that is what we need right now.}

Agree with that Ed001, but I think we need squad players in each position putting pressure on starting X1 (in addition to rotate and rest but still win games). We seem to have settled on mediocrity and "mr nice guy" avg players. Guess I'm not alone amongst fans craving some pace, skill and flair in our team. .

Hopefully a few top players injected into our squad and some mediocre players leaving will renew my optimism. Kenny is not a miracle worker.

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 18:03:49
I have heard from friends in Spain that Enrique S nchez Flores will be leaving Atletico at the end of the season. With this in mind would be a good time to start sounding out Aguero and Forlan as strikers to compete with Suarez and Carrol?

Come on Mr.Henry make another statement of intent and allow Mr.Comolli to spend another £50 million on two proven strikers, with these 4 strikers we would be formidable and feared throughout europe.

Curled1

if we're spending £50m id rather it go on to class wingers


I agree mate, what I meant was spend £50 million on these two as well as buying 2 wingers, 2 x centre backs, left back, right back, and a midfielder.

If Mr.Henry wants to be a winner and win the league then he needs to blow the budget and get back as much as he can on the deadwood.

Curled1


where i agree spending big is a great option for sucess but spending wisely is much more important, we kno FSG don't hav an untapped pot of wealth so the need to spend however big or small has to be done wisely so that the players coming in are going to be right for the club, spunking 150m in summer isn't always right for the club, city spent god knos how much now they hav a dressing room full of squabbling prima donas

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 18:04:41
What dya think ed ? {Ed001's Note - he looks a good player, good sound bite as well, but I won't get carried away on that, he might just be trying to get a move away from Russia.}- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - doubt that ed considering he plays in Ukraine lol {Ed001's Note - yeah, sorry I forget it is no longer one country, I was even looking at the table there about ten seconds before I typed it so no excuse other than stupidity!}

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 18:21:17
If john henry wants to make us great again he'lll give kenny the money

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 18:24:01
Hi Ed's. Although you seem to always disagree with me, I like your comments/ feedback. Please feel free to disagree as I am sure you will. .

My gripe/ rant is this "in rafa we trust" and now "in kenny we trust" nonsense. Can't fans think for themsleves? Yes I love Kenny and am a LFC supporter because of him, but one should never blindly follow. The demise of our club under Houllier & Benitez has proved this. I am so sick of the Biscan's, Traore's, Voronin's playing for our club. I am no football expert, but if we want to win the league we will never do it with "squad" players like Lucas & Spearing & Kuyt etc. We have to get players with skill and flair and get over this "he gives 120% (but has no basic skills)" nonsense.

LFC fans have a right to have figures of hate as we have been subjected to rubbish for years. Time we buy some quality players and thank StevieG and to a certain degree Carra for carrying 9 players for years.

Lucas & now Spearing getting new contracts (Kuyt too) is a joke. Rather put Coady in now - he is already twice the player Jay is. Doings things like that, we deserve to be 6th again next year or worse.

And lastly, please can Kenny just give Ince or Silva a run of the bench for 10mins. So tired of watching Kuyt and Maxi do nothing all game. How bad can they do. We always harping on about blooding youngsters, have no wingers but don't give the widemen a go! ! ! Can we only blood defenders or something? Drives me mad.

No1SAfan {Ed001's Note - didn't Liverpool win the league repeatedly with a number of players that would be seen as nothing more than squad players? The likes of Alan Kennedy, much as I love him, can never be considered as the greatest of players in their position. But they made up a part of a great team and that is what we need right now.}
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Maybe the reason Kenny does not play the youngsters is because they are not ready to play in the first team, if they have a few bad games people will then be slagging them off, and what is that going to do to there confidence. Kenny see's these players all of the time, and he knows what is best for them. I agree the club have wasted millions on average players, but I am pretty sure those days are long gone, due to the fact that Mr Henry will not waste the clubs money as he will now run it like a business and will want to see a return on the many millions that he has invested. the club is going in the right direction, and we need to be patient and support the team, and I am sure in the summer things will be very different. Keep the faith. Ross

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 17:27:48
Hi Ed's. Although you seem to always disagree with me, I like your comments/ feedback. Please feel free to disagree as I am sure you will. .

My gripe/ rant is this "in rafa we trust" and now "in kenny we trust" nonsense. Can't fans think for themsleves? Yes I love Kenny and am a LFC supporter because of him, but one should never blindly follow. The demise of our club under Houllier & Benitez has proved this. I am so sick of the Biscan's, Traore's, Voronin's playing for our club. I am no football expert, but if we want to win the league we will never do it with "squad" players like Lucas & Spearing & Kuyt etc. We have to get players with skill and flair and get over this "he gives 120% (but has no basic skills)" nonsense.

LFC fans have a right to have figures of hate as we have been subjected to rubbish for years. Time we buy some quality players and thank StevieG and to a certain degree Carra for carrying 9 players for years.

Lucas & now Spearing getting new contracts (Kuyt too) is a joke. Rather put Coady in now - he is already twice the player Jay is. Doings things like that, we deserve to be 6th again next year or worse.

And lastly, please can Kenny just give Ince or Silva a run of the bench for 10mins. So tired of watching Kuyt and Maxi do nothing all game. How bad can they do. We always harping on about blooding youngsters, have no wingers but don't give the widemen a go! ! ! Can we only blood defenders or something? Drives me mad.

No1SAfan {Ed001's Note - didn't Liverpool win the league repeatedly with a number of players that would be seen as nothing more than squad players? The likes of Alan Kennedy, much as I love him, can never be considered as the greatest of players in their position. But they made up a part of a great team and that is what we need right now.}

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 17:06:39
07 Apr 2011 16:51:14
I have heard from friends in Spain that Enrique S nchez Flores will be leaving Atletico at the end of the season. With this in mind would be a good time to start sounding out Aguero and Forlan as strikers to compete with Suarez and Carrol?

Come on Mr.Henry make another statement of intent and allow Mr.Comolli to spend another £50 million on two proven strikers, with these 4 strikers we would be formidable and feared throughout europe.

Curled1

if we're spending £50m id rather it go on to class wingers


I agree mate, what I meant was spend £50 million on these two as well as buying 2 wingers, 2 x centre backs, left back, right back, and a midfielder.

If Mr.Henry wants to be a winner and win the league then he needs to blow the budget and get back as much as he can on the deadwood.

Curled1

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 17:10:12
07 Apr 2011 16:51:14
I have heard from friends in Spain that Enrique S nchez Flores will be leaving Atletico at the end of the season. With this in mind would be a good time to start sounding out Aguero and Forlan as strikers to compete with Suarez and Carrol?

Come on Mr.Henry make another statement of intent and allow Mr.Comolli to spend another £50 million on two proven strikers, with these 4 strikers we would be formidable and feared throughout europe.

Curled1

if we're spending £50m id rather it go on to class wingers

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And a backup MF of Lucas & Spearing! ! Yay

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 17:15:36
Why are people giving out about Sylvain Marveaux??? He's only signed a pre-contract and people are already saying he's gonna be a failure and too injury prone. . I think some people need to stop talking rubbish and get behind the team, I think Kenny Dalglish and Damien Comolli know what they're doing. Comolli has obviously seen him up close and knows him personally, if they didn't think he was good enough for LFC then they wouldn't be signing him. . I think Marveaux will be a great addition, he can play anywhere in midfield, left and right footed and has good pace, what do you think Ed???

Rocky {Ed002's Note - I think he would be a really good addition to the squad.}

I just think some people are just being cautious, looking at back at previous seasons and look at the pre-contract deals we have done, none of them have been a success and some think it won't change with this new signing, i'm not going to give a opinion on the signing, I give my opinion on signings (no matter who they are) until maybe December or so, when the new guys have had time to settle etc.

corkpoolred
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Do you not think the owners, Kenny and Comolli are also thinking the same, John Henry has already said this week about the lack of depth and the need for that to change. So I doubt we would buy a player if he is going to spend all of his time with the medics and not playing that is not good business sense. John Henry seems like a shrewd man so have a little faith Ross

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 17:00:40
Ed, do you think we could make 7 signings? (including Marveaux) {Ed001's Note - it is possible, unlikely that there will be that many signings though, not first team players anyway.}

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Right but lets say Adam, Young, Cahill, Dzsudzsak, Benzema, Enrique and Marveaux signed surely that would address all our needs? How many do you expect and what positions?

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 17:07:22
I can't believe that people are berating players already and they have not signed, If these so called fans that slag off LFC players are not happy then maybe then should go and support someone else. If you support a club you support them through good times and bad times, and get behind the team not just slag them off because a result has not gone our way, it is quite embarrassing that people come on this site and slag the players and manager off and clearly know very little about football, I think they should stick to playing computer games. Ross YNWA

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 16:35:53
Hi Eds yea I didn't realize the amount of garbish that must be sent your way, anyways keep smiling and keep up the good work, it's all getting a bit heated today over nothing in my opinion, the dude hasn't even signed yet, I will log on tonight to see if every one has calmed down (no pun intended)

Tobey

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 16:39:22
It is flattering to hear teams such as Chelsea and Liverpool could be watching me. Every time I get the chance I watch Liverpool. They are a very important club and a lot of players would jump at the chance to play for them. - Willian (Shaktar Donesk)

i think he's quality and would love to see him at liverpool

what dya think ed ? {Ed002's Note - A maybe.}

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 16:40:17
Outs:
Jones - 1m
Kyriagkos - free
Poulson - 3m
Jovanovic - 6m
Maxi - 7m
Skrtel - 10m
Konchesky - 2m
Aurelio - 2m
Cole - 8m
Aquilani - 12m
Insua - 5m
Ngog - loan
Darby - .5m
Degen - .5m
Saric - free
Bruna - free
Mendy - free
Irwin - free
Total: 57m

Ins:
Richards - 18m
Sissoko - 11m
Young - 14m
Hulk - 18m
Baines - 14m
Marveaux - free
Wickham - 8m
Total: 83m

Net Spent: 26m

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Johnson- - - - Richards- - - Carra- - - - - - Baines
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- - - - -Young- - - - - - - - - - - - - - -Hulk- - - -
- - - - - - - - - - - - -Suarez- - - - - - - - - - - - -
- - - - - - - - - - - - -Carroll- - - - - - - - - - - - -

- - - - - - - - - - - - -Hansen- - - - - - - - - - - -
Kelly- - - - - - -Ayala- - - - Agger- - - - - -Wilson
- - - - - - - - Meireles- - - - Gerrard- - - - - - - -
- - - - - -Pacheco- - -Shelvey- - - Marveaux- - - -
- - - - - - - - - - - - Wickham- - - - - - - - - - - -

Extras: Kuyt, Spearing, Mavinga

Agger and Gerrard just can't seem to keep themselves fit these days so I've dropped them from the Starting XI because they are never fit. When they are fit, Agger will be preferred over Carra and Gerrard over Sissoko.

Reserves:

- - - - - - - - - - - - -Gulasci- - - - - - - - - - - -
Flanagan- - - -Wisdom- - - -Sama- - - - Robinson
- - - - - - - - - Coady- - - -Roddan- - - - - - - - -
- - - - -Sterling- - - - Suso- - - - -Silva- - - - - -
- - - - - - - - - - - - -Ngoo- - - - - - - - - - - - -

Conor Thomas will not be signed after his loan spell. Coady, Wisdom, Flanagan, Robinson, Suso and Silva will spend significant at Melwood and make a few cameos each. Sterling will also be involved but not as much as he is only 16.

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 16:46:43
LFC signings

Young
Adam
Benzema
Marveaux
Dzsudzsak
Cahill
Baines

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 16:49:50
Who would welcome Ray Wilkins as the assistant? I know he played for Man U, but he is a great tactician. Kenny as the manager, Ray as the assistant, Steve Clarke as the coach, with Segura bringing through youth. A great team IMO.
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I'm not sure Wilkins is a great tactician and every time I hear him commentating on matches or giving his opinions in interviews he always comes across to me as a complete kn*bhead! Maybe I'm wrong but I'd rather not take the chance thanks
I'd like to see Pako and Sami return to the coaching staff

Chris in Tamworth


couldnt agree more mate wilkins is a nob head, he talks complete bollox, id hav pako back as first tem coach an sami hypia back as a defensive coach with steve clarke made to assistant manager, i loved sammy lee as a player but as a coach or even manager hes found wanting

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 16:51:14
I have heard from friends in Spain that Enrique S nchez Flores will be leaving Atletico at the end of the season. With this in mind would be a good time to start sounding out Aguero and Forlan as strikers to compete with Suarez and Carrol?

Come on Mr.Henry make another statement of intent and allow Mr.Comolli to spend another £50 million on two proven strikers, with these 4 strikers we would be formidable and feared throughout europe.

Curled1

if we're spending £50m id rather it go on to class wingers

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 16:53:13
Ed, do you think we could make 7 signings? (including Marveaux) {Ed002's Note - Maybe.}

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 16:57:31
{Ed002's Note - I have given plenty of thoughts on Marveaux on these pages. He turned down Manchester United and Chelsea as he did not think he would get enough time on the pitch. He would, in my view, be an excellent addition to the squad. You need to get your "Kenny Out" and "Yonks Out" flags unfurled as they are clearly not looking to bring in the players you want.}

exactly he turned down United and Chelsea cos he didn't think he would play too much. . so we are buying 2nd rate players rarely. . players who wouldn't get in the united/ arsenal/ chelsea sides. isn't that half our 1st team sides problem now. we should be buying players that would walk into there sides. . {Ed001's Note - no, they are not players who wouldn't get in their sides, but players who didn't want to be in a rotation system. Clearly you are one of those people who are just looking for reasons to whine about anything.}

nope just being realistic. its not players who would be rotating players at top clubs we need. its top class players who will get us up there challenging for honours. . all the sides above us now will strengthen in the summer. . i am not moaning just getting used to the fact that unless we buy quality players we will be a mid table side for alot longer. as lets face it now we have a mid table squad.

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool fans used to have the reputation of being some of the best in the world supporting the club through both the good times and the bad times. Now we come down to fans who must have at least one current player to hate at all times, and fans who won't even give the players a chance before they join. Who would you want as a manager to replace Dalglish? Liverpool have had a pretty tough year or two and are doing a pretty good job of reshaping themselves. It is particularly sad to see the so called fans of a club who cannot get behind both the club and the players and help push on.}

i havent once said in this conversation i want daglish to be replaced. i think he has done a decent job, esp with some very average players who would struggle to make the bench at united/ chelsea/ arsenal etc. what am saying is i don't see the difference in class between maxi or Marveaux both are average players. marveaux is very injury prone similar to aurelio. . this is not the type of player we should be buying. if he signs for the club i will back him and support him through thick and thin, because he plays for my club. but that doesn't mean i have to want the club to buy him. we all have our opionion and mine is that he is not good enough or the player we need to get us back in the top 4. where sadly without some quality investment we won't be 2012-2013 season. . this summer and next season will be defining for our future as a top club. without the champions league money coming in, our outgoing spending will reduce massively. reducing the transfer budget on your incomings/ outgoings. . we don't have room for making mistakes this time round like we have done in the past with free transfers where lets face it our record has been very poor. no1 we have signed have been good players lets face it.

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 17:00:23
Why are people giving out about Sylvain Marveaux??? He's only signed a pre-contract and people are already saying he's gonna be a failure and too injury prone. . I think some people need to stop talking rubbish and get behind the team, I think Kenny Dalglish and Damien Comolli know what they're doing. Comolli has obviously seen him up close and knows him personally, if they didn't think he was good enough for LFC then they wouldn't be signing him. . I think Marveaux will be a great addition, he can play anywhere in midfield, left and right footed and has good pace, what do you think Ed???

Rocky {Ed002's Note - I think he would be a really good addition to the squad.}

I just think some people are just being cautious, looking at back at previous seasons and look at the pre-contract deals we have done, none of them have been a success and some think it won't change with this new signing, i'm not going to give a opinion on the signing, I give my opinion on signings (no matter who they are) until maybe December or so, when the new guys have had time to settle etc.

corkpoolred

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 16:35:53
Hi Eds yea I didn't realize the amount of garbish that must be sent your way, anyways keep smiling and keep up the good work, it's all getting a bit heated today over nothing in my opinion, the dude hasn't even signed yet, I will log on tonight to see if every one has calmed down (no pun intended)

Tobey

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 16:39:22
It is flattering to hear teams such as Chelsea and Liverpool could be watching me. Every time I get the chance I watch Liverpool. They are a very important club and a lot of players would jump at the chance to play for them. - Willian (Shaktar Donesk)

i think he's quality and would love to see him at liverpool

what dya think ed ? {Ed001's Note - he looks a good player, good sound bite as well, but I won't get carried away on that, he might just be trying to get a move away from Russia.}

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 16:49:50
Who would welcome Ray Wilkins as the assistant? I know he played for Man U, but he is a great tactician. Kenny as the manager, Ray as the assistant, Steve Clarke as the coach, with Segura bringing through youth. A great team IMO.
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I'm not sure Wilkins is a great tactician and every time I hear him commentating on matches or giving his opinions in interviews he always comes across to me as a complete kn*bhead! Maybe I'm wrong but I'd rather not take the chance thanks
I'd like to see Pako and Sami return to the coaching staff

Chris in Tamworth


couldnt agree more mate wilkins is a nob head, he talks complete bollox, id hav pako back as first tem coach an sami hypia back as a defensive coach with steve clarke made to assistant manager, i loved sammy lee as a player but as a coach or even manager hes found wanting

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 16:51:14
I have heard from friends in Spain that Enrique S nchez Flores will be leaving Atletico at the end of the season. With this in mind would be a good time to start sounding out Aguero and Forlan as strikers to compete with Suarez and Carrol?

Come on Mr.Henry make another statement of intent and allow Mr.Comolli to spend another £50 million on two proven strikers, with these 4 strikers we would be formidable and feared throughout europe.

Curled1

if we're spending £50m id rather it go on to class wingers

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 16:31:52
I have heard from friends in Spain that Enrique S nchez Flores will be leaving Atletico at the end of the season. With this in mind would be a good time to start sounding out Aguero and Forlan as strikers to compete with Suarez and Carrol?

Come on Mr.Henry make another statement of intent and allow Mr.Comolli to spend another £50 million on two proven strikers, with these 4 strikers we would be formidable and feared throughout europe.

Curled1

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 16:33:05
Dear Editor,
As I have told you Sylivian Mervauex is too injury prone & he is not good enough for LFC.
Now I can confirm you that LFC won't make such foolish decision by signing him.
Kenny & Commoli knows what they are doing , so they have made a great decision in by deciding not to sign him.

The club have serious doubts over his durability.

Well done , King Kenny & Commoli . .

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 16:22:44
Liverpool will find it hard to attract big names in the summer. Hopefully Camolli will pull off a few good signings for us.

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 16:21:04
Rumours are Robbie Fowler joined at reserves training today! source; Steven Irwin twitter!
Ed, u think he will be included as a trainer in the club now?

RedViking {Ed002's Note - I have no idea.}

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 16:13:13
A bit lively on here today Eds.
I think the more extreme views you get on here are a reflection of the wild swings in fortunes that Liverpool FC have experienced in recent years, culminating in almost going bust.
Fans just want us to get back up there a.s.a.p. and it seems to be the way now that it has to be done by yesterday.
But there are still people out there that are content to let Kenny et al do their jobs. Ours is to support them.
Support. Got that ?
KB

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 16:13:59
Well said Mr em. How are players meant to find there feet and gain some confidence in a new country if there being slagged off before they've kicked a ball. We should be behind every player in our squad. I think a lot of people don't understand how important confidence is in football and how much it can be knocked if your own fans are getting on your back.

Wavertree red

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 15:57:29
Hi ed I've been Reading for quite a while now and alots of people linking us with alots of players with the transfer Market, do you actually now for sure who we actually looking at thanks. Lfc fan from Cardiff. {Ed002's Note - I can only speak for myself. There is nothing I know that is not here somewhere.}

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 15:59:06
Ed 002 I hope your opinion on the majority of Liverpool fans isn't sullied by the minority's poor actions. Cheers,
Isaac {Ed002's Note - I am pretty thicked skinned.}

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 16:08:02
Well its been a good week for football, some of the games in the champions league were brilliant. i can't wait till liverpool can be involved in them again.

so with the marveaux deal finally done i can not for the life of me understand why some 'fans' are already on the lads back, he looks a good player (admittedly i've only seen him play about 4 or 5 times). i imagine he will add to the squad probably not starting every week, but for years now people have been saying we lack depth in our squad and now the club buy someone to add to it they moan about it. im expecting alot of comings and going this summer there are to many average players at the club that need to go, and i feel confident they will be replaced by better quality player.

one last thing on ssn it say Taye Taiwo knows where he's going, does anyone know if its here, ed? on a free i think he would be a good signing

always a red

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 16:11:59
Yo, Ed! Your pal here, Murphy. Tell me. Do you think when we begin our pre-season tour in Asia some of our new signings will be there?
If so, how many do you would've joined by then? Just your opinion.

Many thanks. {Ed002's Note - It would be guesswork but I would expect some to be in place. Most will likely be working at the training ground to get over their injuries.}

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 15:51:28
I hope Marveaux does sign for us. I only wish he could play now, because we could certainly do with him. We haven't had a good left sided player since Reira left. If he has previously turned down Man Utd & Chelsea then he must be a reasonably good player, & if he's free ( so to speak), even better. Welcome aboard Marveaux!

The Irish Rover

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 15:52:26
There is too many people on this site that aren't real liverpool fans! Too many on here are blinded by what football has become today. Its all money, money, money. We must spend this amount we must spend that amount to achieve. I agree with ed002 regarding the marveaux situation, already people are slating him, he's not a Liverpool player. What is a Liverpool player? Was john barnes a liverpool player before he signed? What about dalglish? Beardsley? Rush? Too many know it all's on this sight. Pull the red shirt on, get behind the team and support them with all you have, its that simple.

Ian the red

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 15:58:22
Chelsea has more "hater" fans in their forums lmao. And yea if you want sugardaddy you can hop to chelsea. .thats where all those are!

-pZ

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 15:59:10
Come on kk get the finger out and sign turan

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 15:38:34
Is japan not part of Asia?!

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 15:42:03
Hey Eds. . . . . giving a player abuse before he has even joined. . . . .moral high ground. . . . I seem to remember certain Eds laying into a certain Joe Cole?????? Or what about Andy Carrol????????? Or Suarez???????? Pot calling the kettle black me thinks!

Tobey {Ed001's Note - hardly, Ed002 never laid into any of those. As for my judgement of those other players it was not based on my personal assessment of players I had seen play many times. The point is that Marveaux is getting abuse from people who don't even know who he is and so have decided that he must be rubbish because they are ignorant. If you had read the kind of posts we get sent in regarding players you would understand why it is a totally different situation. What you see posted on the site is the tip of the iceberg and nothing like the kind of nasty and abusive posts we do get, as those are deleted.}

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 15:43:54
It is flattering to hear teams such as Chelsea and Liverpool could be watching me. Every time I get the chance I watch Liverpool. They are a very important club and a lot of players would jump at the chance to play for them. - Willian (Shaktar Donesk)

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 15:45:05
{Ed002's Note - No Chris, I have not called you a Lucas hater nor am I tarring you with the same brush as those who have wanted players to get injured, made threats and the plethora of other drivel that gets sent in. What I am saying is that there is a disproportionally high number of folks who go well beyond either not liking a player or moaning about a poor performance or two.}
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Ed if it is the case that some posters have suggested they would like to see any player (from any team) get injured or made threats to any players then I can completely understand your feelings on this subject. Thank you for not posting such filth and keep up the good work

Chris in Tamworth

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 15:22:17
Liverpool wanting Diego Costa of Athletico Madrid with cash and Maxi going the other way. Also Ayew and Pjanic are being looked at who are both young talents in the French league. Sidnei is wanted to cover Agger and Skrtel. Comolli also sees Charles Kabore to challenge Lucas for the DM spot

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Diego costa scored a hat trick for Athletico at the weekend; without Aguero or Forlan, he has been there for a while and he grasped at his chance, shown that when Aguero leaves he is just as good a replacement, would be a good squad player but he wants 1st team

I watched kabore a while ago and he did his job of covering the defence, didn't contribute much other than a few tackles, would be a waste of a player; Lucas can make things happen; id prefer a more influential or Xabi like DM, Martinez (although i did express earlier that i would like Sissoko or Mvila)

Sidnei is alright but not better than squirtle; personally want a new 1st team CB and have Squirtle for back up.

The Next ;)

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 15:17:29
Oh my god! Why are people getting on Marveaux's back when he hasn't even definitely been signed, never mind kick a ball for us. Seriously get a grip.

Stone.
YNWA

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 15:13:27
Hi ed

i am getting worried about all these rumours of the special one coming to manage liverpool. that's why king ken has not been offered the job full time yet,
please say its not true,

cus kenny lucks sad to me at the moment

{Ed002's Note - I doubt that Mr Mourinho will be joing Liverpool this summer.}

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 15:13:59
{Ed002's Note - It is certainly not true of other clubs. You may get an occasional moan about a player - but not all consuming hated.}

Hi Ed, All clubs have a player(s) of hate, if you don't believe this you are naive, just because they don't post it on here doesn't mean it doesn't happen I have been listening to United fans all season about Carrick and Berbatov before that! You also only have to look at the England team, which should incorporate most clubs to see this, they always have had a hate figure through the years(more recently Lampard , Crouch , Hargreaves) took terrible abuse) This goes on everywhere, every club has idiots unfortunately!

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 14:56:04
How do the eds know marveaux is a nice guy? mates? related? didn't think so

martin {Ed002's Note - I have spent a reasonable amount of time with him.}

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 15:02:21
25 man squad for next season:

Renia

Johnson Carragher Agger Baines

Lucas

Gerrard Meriles

Young Suraz
Carroll

Subs from Jones, Kelly, Wilson, Aurlio, Skertal, Spearing, Adam, Shelvey, Cole, Marveaux, Kuyt, and 3 youth team/ reserve players being promoted into the squad of 25. My Guess Pacheco, Robinson, flanigan.

With players such as the greek, the konk, Poulsen, Insua, Maxi, Degan, el Zhar, Aquaillini, Ngog, being sold, sent out on loan, or sitting around in the reserves until there contract expires.

I've just wrote this list of players down on a blank piece of paper i wonder how many are right come the start of next year?

Basil

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 15:02:28
{Ed002's Note - How can you claim to be behind the manager when you disagree with the club's signings. And believe me, players will not respond well to criticism by the fans. I truly hope that Sylvain Marveaux does not sign for Liverpool as he is a really nice guy and I do not want to see him suffer at the hands of so called "fans" such as you.}

I would be more than happy if he didn't join us.

Disagreeing with a signing is not, not getting behind the manager & the club, i really don't no how you are thinking,

As for you , you are not even a liverpool fan?
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This is the same fool i argued with last week, all he does is slag off Lucas, THAT'S IT! ! Most evenings he's on here just slagging of Lucas, now he's even started to slag of players before they've even played a game for us! And when knobody agrees with him he starts acting like a petulant child. Son you must be without doubt the worst Liverpool fan around, and if you are wondering how i know it's you, well your spelling is that of a prepubescent child and you spell the same simple words wrong every time. Buy a dictionary, learn to spell and while your at it look up the word 'supporter' you may learn something

MR EM

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 15:05:46
Valencia winger Hernandez keen to hear from Liverpool

Valencia are ready to sell Pablo Hernandez. Hernandez is aware of his club's intentions and has told his management that he favours a move to England.

Valencia are seeking £10 million for the midfielder.
Juventus and Fiorentina are also keen, but Hernandez is hoping Liverpool and Arsenal make their tentative enquiries into concrete offers as the summer market draws closer

TheBA300

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 14:43:46
I don't know which Liverpool fans you hang around with but Ive never met any fans who are consumed by hate towards any player. {Ed001's Note - you haven't read some of the posts we have to deal with, it is definitely worse on this site than any of the others we deal with.}
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to be fair you did say there were more people using this site though

{Ed002's Note - Agreed - more than the rest put together.}

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 14:45:03
This probs won't be posted but i will say it anyway, i was in liverpool last weekend for my mates 18th ( shout out to the shakers that played in the cavern , amazing ) i went to a pub called the bulldog to watch the game vs westbrom and i was on my own so got talking to the locals and baines came up, one of them said that he would love the move but it will deffo not happen this summer, they said that's he very found of nights out on the town with hes everton mates and isn't prepared to jump ship becuase what it wd cause, also question for eds, is there any truth in the benzema rumors ?
please post this
Shane {Ed002's Note - There may be interest in Benzema, but he has certainly not already signed.}

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 14:47:02
I don't know which Liverpool fans you hang around with but Ive never met any fans who are consumed by hate towards any player. {Ed001's Note - you haven't read some of the posts we have to deal with, it is definitely worse on this site than any of the others we deal with.}

Maybe so, but am i right in saying that this is also by far the most used site? the more people who use the site the more likely it is that a few idiots will appear.

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 14:47:43
Expect rekindled interest in landing Honda, the sponsors wanna c us invest in asian players and I imagine Honda is our top target {Ed002's Note - Honda is Japanese - I fear that they do not consider him Asian per se.}

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 14:53:42
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07 Apr 2011 14:20:34
ED002, I think your getting a little carried away, you seem to be judging all Liverpool fans by a vocal minority, I'd imagine most Liverpool fans won't know what to expect from Marveaux, but i have no doubt that he will be supported by the fans from the moment he signs.

{Ed002's Note - I am not painting all Liverpool fans the same, but you must admit that there are clearly large numbers of Liverpool fans who do suffer these unfortunate issues.}

But that's the same at every club, I don't think its a large number of fans that are like that, as i said before most fans won't know who Marveaux is so they don't post anything, and a few who assume that because they don't know about him think he isn't good enough, these fans then post their ill informed assumptions and create the illusion that it is a common viewpoint.

{Ed002's Note - It is certainly not true of other clubs. You may get an occasional moan about a player - but not all consuming hated.}
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Ed 002 you are going too far now. It certainly IS a fact that ALL clubs will have fans with differing viewpoints on players and the criticism on this site of players is far from being "all consuming hatred".
I myself am not a fan of Lucas and this has lead you, amongst others, to label me a Lucas hater. Now from where I'm standing that makes you the one that's overreacting about a player. I am fully behind every player that pulls on the shirt and on matchday they get my full vocal support, however I am entitled to have an opinion on a player and it is allowed to be in the form of criticism. I am also entitled to change my mind about Lucas if I feel he has convinced me that my criticism is wrong. You are the one more often than not who wants to have a go at posters if their view differs from your own, I think all the Ed's do a great job on this site and I thank you all but please don't tar us all with the same brush.

Chris in Tamworth

{Ed002's Note - No Chris, I have not called you a Lucas hater nor am I tarring you with the same brush as those who have wanted players to get injured, made threats and the plethora of other drivel that gets sent in. What I am saying is that there is a disproportionally high number of folks who go well beyond either not liking a player or moaning about a poor performance or two.}

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 14:39:51
Ok ive seen some rumours about kaka and robben and benzema coming to liverpool and i don't quite believe it.do you thing they are realistic targets ed? {Ed002's Note - Outside chance of Benzema, not the others.}

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 14:41:03
Henry made some remarks about the lack of depth and quality that we have and that its even worse than he thought.
what he said is nonsense we all knew this problem and so did he after his due dilligance.
we didn't spend any money the last 3 years and blaming benitez is wrong, if he had the money he would have bought the players he really wanted.
henry doesn't realize that 50mil torres would not have been with us without benitez.
even alonso arbeloa reina.
we all know that benitez made mistakes, but he done some good things too.
we are not impressed with henry bying suarez 22mil and caroll 35mil and selling torres 50mil babel 6mil.from next season onwards we can jugde henry my mind is telling me he only bought us and has not spend anything yet?
Dear Henry benitez gave us many memories we will never forget with limeted funds.
we will need serieus investment to get back to were we want to be, so selling to fund will not work
ed? {Ed002's Note - If you want a sugar daddy I am not sure that Liverpool is the club for you.}

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 14:33:24
07 Apr 2011 13:27:22
Who would welcome Ray Wilkins as the assistant? I know he played for Man U, but he is a great tactician. Kenny as the manager, Ray as the assistant, Steve Clarke as the coach, with Segura bringing through youth. A great team IMO.
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I'm not sure Wilkins is a great tactician and every time I hear him commentating on matches or giving his opinions in interviews he always comes across to me as a complete kn*bhead! Maybe I'm wrong but I'd rather not take the chance thanks
I'd like to see Pako and Sami return to the coaching staff

Chris in Tamworth

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 14:33:52
But that's the same at every club, I don't think its a large number of fans that are like that, as i said before most fans won't know who Marveaux is so they don't post anything, and a few who assume that because they don't know about him think he isn't good enough, these fans then post their ill informed assumptions and create the illusion that it is a common viewpoint.

{Ed002's Note - It is certainly not true of other clubs. You may get an occasional moan about a player - but not all consuming hated.}

I don't know which Liverpool fans you hang around with but Ive never met any fans who are consumed by hate towards any player. {Ed001's Note - you haven't read some of the posts we have to deal with, it is definitely worse on this site than any of the others we deal with.}

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 14:34:02
It's completely unrealistic, but after seeing the subs bench for the last few weeks then this is the kind of investment we actually need. .about £100million:

- - - - - - - - - Reina - - - - - - - - -
Johnson - Carragher - Agger - Baines
- - - - - - - - Alonso - - - - - - - - -
- - - - Gerrard - - - Kaka - - - - - -
- - Hulk - - - Aguero - - Suarez - -

Jones - Kelly - Skrtel - Lucas -Meireles - Kuyt - Carroll

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 14:34:24
Regarding:

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool fans used to have the reputation of being some of the best in the world supporting the club through both the good times and the bad times. Now we come down to fans who must have at least one current player to hate at all times, and fans who won't even give the players a chance before they join. Who would you want as a manager to replace Dalglish? Liverpool have had a pretty tough year or two and are doing a pretty good job of reshaping themselves. It is particularly sad to see the so called fans of a club who cannot get behind both the club and the players and help push on.}

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Hold your tongue there Ed002, every team has a collection of idiots who come out with the absurd, but do not label the many by the actions of a few.

Scarface

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 14:20:34
ED002, I think your getting a little carried away, you seem to be judging all Liverpool fans by a vocal minority, I'd imagine most Liverpool fans won't know what to expect from Marveaux, but i have no doubt that he will be supported by the fans from the moment he signs.

{Ed002's Note - I am not painting all Liverpool fans the same, but you must admit that there are clearly large numbers of Liverpool fans who do suffer these unfortunate issues.}

But that's the same at every club, I don't think its a large number of fans that are like that, as i said before most fans won't know who Marveaux is so they don't post anything, and a few who assume that because they don't know about him think he isn't good enough, these fans then post their ill informed assumptions and create the illusion that it is a common viewpoint.

{Ed002's Note - It is certainly not true of other clubs. You may get an occasional moan about a player - but not all consuming hated.}

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 14:14:55
Ed, this deal with LeBron James' company, could this potentially have an affect on what we have to spend in the summer as we will probably gain extra revenue from it therefore meaning we will have a higher profit and can spend more whilst staying within new uefa rules.
Am i right or am i just confused.

{Ed002's Note - Don't expect any discernable impact, certainly in the short-term. In the longer term brand awareness can be nothing but a good thing.}

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 14:15:59
Real madrid may make Adebayor a permanent signing; so Benzema could very well come to us

SingRed

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 14:16:31
07 Apr 2011 13:57:15
Honestly what do chelsea fans know about football? All this talk about torres is B*LLOCKS!

don't get me wrong, it does take players a bit of time to settle, but its not like he has moved to a different league. he's just gone to london where the majority of the time its warmer than liverpool.

he seems to be fit so that can't be a reason for him failing at chelsea so far.

truth is, chelsea don't have the players to make him shine. when torres was bangin' in goals for us he was supported DIRECTLY by Gerrard in behind him and Xabi Alonso. As good as chelsea are, who do they have that are that good?

Lampard is a shadow of the player he used to be (even at his best he was no gerrard) ramires, jon obi mikel, and even essien can't pass a ball like Alonso did. He's also paired with two players who are used to being the BIG TIME striker and the three of them are faltering now because they all want to be number 1! (like nelly)

Truth is, if torres wanted to win trophies he should have gone back to Spain, Italy or Celtic!

Cheers lads!
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Gerrards link up with Torres was exceptional, but I feel the reason torres hasn't got his first goal is because he's not naturally going to berth first person they look for as they have quite a few goal scorers. At Liverpool he was the best finisher. so gerrard would look fir him and equally Torres would look for Gerrard. He's gone now so it dosent matter now anyway so let's move on.

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 14:07:30
Love the site truly addicted to it but to be fair, we can speculate all we want but there are only a handful of people who really know who our targets and they are the people they running the club.

We do not even know who are manager is going to be next season yet!

Now this is just me speculating but I for one feel there will be one massive signing that will make everyone take note i really do.

Am i right in saying we sold the 3rd most replica shirts in the wrold this or last season? (read that in a John henry interview) Now take that and add a huge signing and it pretty much pays for itself. Was it the Real Madrid president who once said that sometimes the most expensive signings turn out to be the cheapest. .

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 14:00:01
I'm with the ed on this i think Marveaux will be a good capture for the club as he can play down either side. Liverpool really do need some wide players to get delverey into carrol from wide area's not just long ball pumped up field. Just hope we sign another wide player with premier league experiance like Young/ Jarvis to go with Marveaux. Please remember that the new owners are not going to invest millions of pounds this summer in the club and liverpool won't be getting millions from the champions league aswell so cheap/ free players are what we need.

To go with Marveaux i would like to see a left back another wide player and another centre midfielder. A few i would consider are left back Baines/ Bridge centre midfield Parker/ adam wide player Young/ jarvis i think the club could get these sorts of player and not spend the earth and the club would be alot better for next season.

Basil

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 13:57:15
Honestly what do chelsea fans know about football? All this talk about torres is B*LLOCKS!

don't get me wrong, it does take players a bit of time to settle, but its not like he has moved to a different league. he's just gone to london where the majority of the time its warmer than liverpool.

he seems to be fit so that can't be a reason for him failing at chelsea so far.

truth is, chelsea don't have the players to make him shine. when torres was bangin' in goals for us he was supported DIRECTLY by Gerrard in behind him and Xabi Alonso. As good as chelsea are, who do they have that are that good?

Lampard is a shadow of the player he used to be (even at his best he was no gerrard) ramires, jon obi mikel, and even essien can't pass a ball like Alonso did. He's also paired with two players who are used to being the BIG TIME striker and the three of them are faltering now because they all want to be number 1! (like nelly)

Truth is, if torres wanted to win trophies he should have gone back to Spain, Italy or Celtic!

Cheers lads!

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 13:51:44
{Ed002's Note - How can you claim to be behind the manager when you disagree with the club's signings. And believe me, players will not respond well to criticism by the fans. I truly hope that Sylvain Marveaux does not sign for Liverpool as he is a really nice guy and I do not want to see him suffer at the hands of so called "fans" such as you.}

I would be more than happy if he didn't join us.

Disagreeing with a signing is not, not getting behind the manager & the club, i really don't no how you are thinking,

As for you , you are not even a liverpool fan?

Ed, don't take it too hard , tankyou for posting my comments. YNWA cheers. {Ed001's Note - I am sorry but he is right, all this whining about potential signings that you have never even seen play is counterproductive. It is about time we backed the manager and his decisions, even those we don't like.}

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 13:52:27
{Ed002's Note - Liverpool fans used to have the reputation of being some of the best in the world supporting the club through both the good times and the bad times. Now we come down to fans who must have at least one current player to hate at all times, and fans who won't even give the players a chance before they join. Who would you want as a manager to replace Dalglish? Liverpool have had a pretty tough year or two and are doing a pretty good job of reshaping themselves. It is particularly sad to see the so called fans of a club who cannot get behind both the club and the players and help push on.}

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07 Apr 2011 13:50:04
Juventus have opened negotiations with Liverpool regarding the permanent transfer of Alberto Aquilani, according to reports in Italy.

Aquilani is on loan at Juventus until the end of the season, but the Turin giants have an option to buy him for 16.5 million in the summer should they wish to do so.

According to La Gazzetta dello Sport, Juventus are unwilling to pay such a high amount and are hoping to agree a deal for around 12 million.

The Italian club are in a strong bargaining position because the player wants to stay in Turin and appears to be surplus to requirements at Anfield.

"It is thanks to the Bianconeri club that I have returned to the national team, " Aquilani told Corriere dello Sport earlier this week. "The club has to evaluate the situation but I would like to stay."

Aquilani's desire to remain at the Stadio Olimpico Grande Torino should help smooth over issues with his salary. The 26-year-old currently earns 3.5 million a year and Juventus would like him to take a pay cut.

The former Roma player joined Liverpool in the summer of 2009 for a reported £20 million, but failed to make an appearance for the club until November due to injury.

He returned to Italy after just one year in the Premier League and has scored twice and made 27 league appearances for Juventus this season.

Juve are seventh in Serie A, eight points behind Udinese, who hold the last Champions League qualifying spot with seven games remaining.

ESPN EMEA Ltd

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 13:50:05
Oldado is an chance of Llorente. Soldado is an unnamed character on these forums, he is 25 and a natural born finisher; David Villa Esq, Valencia are strapped for money and I expect him and Mata to leave in the summer. I'm also told we had scouts at their last home game; not sure if its true.
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MansfieldRED

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 13:49:29
{Ed002's Note - I am not painting all Liverpool fans the same, but you must admit that there are clearly large numbers of Liverpool fans who do suffer these unfortunate issues.}

It's most likely the young generation that haven't been educated by their elders. I'm in the 'young generation', 17 tomorrow. But as soon as I could read & write, my Dad told me about the history of the club, what it stands for. Now I think even he would admit I'm more of a supporter than him.

Stone.
YNWA

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 13:45:13
Team 2 play man city

Reina
carra the greek strtel wilson
lucas poulsen
kuyt cole
carroll suarez

Just read this which was posted on this site a bit earlier today, and this is somebodies team selection for the next liverpool match. Now is Merieles injuried? If not injuried why isn't he in the starting line up. I know he played in our last game against wba on the left and looked like a duck out of water.

I would like some feed back on Merieles fitness because i would never drop him for Poulsen in fact i would rather have Spearing ahead of Poulsen.

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 13:45:53
Liverpool have many problem positions that need to be sorted out for next season.

Center back: Cahill to replace Carragher.

Left back: Enrique or Baines.

Defensive midfield: Banega or Adam

Right wing: A. Johnson or Chung Lee

Left wing: Turan or Young

Striker: Honda.
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I personally would love these players to join us - helps strengthen all our weak positions. .

love the thught of Banega, A Johnson Turan and Honda - it would be a very attacking summer if we bought all these for our first team. . . .

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 13:36:27
{Ed002's Note - Liverpool fans used to have the reputation of being some of the best in the world supporting the club through both the good times and the bad times. Now we come down to fans who must have at least one current player to hate at all times, and fans who won't even give the players a chance before they join. Who would you want as a manager to replace Dalglish? Liverpool have had a pretty tough year or two and are doing a pretty good job of reshaping themselves. It is particularly sad to see the so called fans of a club who cannot get behind both the club and the players and help push on.}

I am behind the club & Kenny, but my view on a player will remain same whether he is an LFC player or not, unless he proves me wrong, if he proves me wrong i will be with him and will support him. take Lucasz for example now many of us likes him, as a fan we really wants to see the best if not we will always criticize. Criticism leads to perfectness.

{Ed002's Note - How can you claim to be behind the manager when you disagree with the club's signings. And believe me, players will not respond well to criticism by the fans. I truly hope that Sylvain Marveaux does not sign for Liverpool as he is a really nice guy and I do not want to see him suffer at the hands of so called "fans" such as you.}

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 13:26:59
We will see that next season, then i will prove you wrong. .am sure he would be an injury prone flop. .

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool fans used to have the reputation of being some of the best in the world supporting the club through both the good times and the bad times. Now we come down to fans who must have at least one current player to hate at all times, and fans who won't even give the players a chance before they join. Who would you want as a manager to replace Dalglish? Liverpool have had a pretty tough year or two and are doing a pretty good job of reshaping themselves. It is particularly sad to see the so called fans of a club who cannot get behind both the club and the players and help push on.}

ED002, I think your getting a little carried away, you seem to be judging all Liverpool fans by a vocal minority, I'd imagine most Liverpool fans won't know what to expect from Marveaux, but i have no doubt that he will be supported by the fans from the moment he signs.

{Ed002's Note - I am not painting all Liverpool fans the same, but you must admit that there are clearly large numbers of Liverpool fans who do suffer these unfortunate issues.}

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 13:27:22
Who would welcome Ray Wilkins as the assistant? I know he played for Man U, but he is a great tactician. Kenny as the manager, Ray as the assistant, Steve Clarke as the coach, with Segura bringing through youth. A great team IMO.

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 13:22:32
FSG have actually done their first bit of bad business. For all of you not in America or a follower of the NBA (which I do not blame anyone for not following a sport that is 48 minutes long & takes 2 hours to play {thank you television & sponsors$$]) Lebron "the king" James is not a well liked sports figure here. Search "the decision", watch the ESPN extravaganza of arrogant childness & then check out the reactions of everyone in America to "the king"'s act.

He is the last person in America I want our club associated with, he is viewed by the majority of Americans as an overpaid, over-hyped, selfish prick (and heaven forbid you are from Cleveland, because he is a vile character in their eyes).

The only good I see coming from this is that the Europeans & Asians (because let's be honest, this deal is really all about Asia) don't feel the same about LeBron as everyone I associate with does (and that includes football fans, NBA fans, NFL fans, etc. .).

ed002 - if what you say about LRMR marketing helping the LFC "brand" is true, then we have one of the worst firms representing us. They are the ones who helped design the decision & advise "the king" on his general sh $head decisions.

an american red

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 13:18:31
Iam sorry to say i will not be looking on this site again. due to the way you so called lfc fans slag everything liverpool fc do. its a shame because i think the eds that put this site together do a great job and iam sorry to them. if your lfc fans stop slaging them and get behide them.

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 13:03:07
{Ed002's Note - I have given plenty of thoughts on Marveaux on these pages. He turned down Manchester United and Chelsea as he did not think he would get enough time on the pitch. He would, in my view, be an excellent addition to the squad. You need to get your "Kenny Out" and "Yonks Out" flags unfurled as they are clearly not looking to bring in the players you want.}

exactly he turned down United and Chelsea cos he didn't think he would play too much. . so we are buying 2nd rate players rarely. . players who wouldn't get in the united/ arsenal/ chelsea sides. isn't that half our 1st team sides problem now. we should be buying players that would walk into there sides. . {Ed001's Note - no, they are not players who wouldn't get in their sides, but players who didn't want to be in a rotation system. Clearly you are one of those people who are just looking for reasons to whine about anything.}

nope just being realistic. its not players who would be rotating players at top clubs we need. its top class players who will get us up there challenging for honours. . all the sides above us now will strengthen in the summer. . i am not moaning just getting used to the fact that unless we buy quality players we will be a mid table side for alot longer. as lets face it now we have a mid table squad.

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool fans used to have the reputation of being some of the best in the world supporting the club through both the good times and the bad times. Now we come down to fans who must have at least one current player to hate at all times, and fans who won't even give the players a chance before they join. Who would you want as a manager to replace Dalglish? Liverpool have had a pretty tough year or two and are doing a pretty good job of reshaping themselves. It is particularly sad to see the so called fans of a club who cannot get behind both the club and the players and help push on.}

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 13:08:43
I would imagine the reason kenny wants to offer spearing a new contract is because he would be on low wages fergie has done it for years with his youngsters and then sold them on in few years time, its clever management. I wouldn't think fergie or ancelotti will be quaking in their boots at the thought of liverpool tying lucas and spearing to long term contracts though. anyway best of luck to spearing hope he improves in the future!
DCG

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 12:54:03
Team 2 play man city

Reina
carra the greek strtel wilson
lucas poulsen
kuyt cole
carroll suarez

i hope cole plays! !

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 12:57:09
Ed I have heard a good few former footballers (not only Liverpool players) being interviewed that believe King Kenny will be the Shankley of our current team and can lead us to the Premier League. Another thing that they said was he could be our manager for as long as Ferguson for United ! What do you think Ed on both points Ed ? Cheers Mate. {Ed002's Note - If Dalglish does continue as manager I think in the short-term we will certainly see the team challenging for a top four position. If Dalglish does stay as long as Ferguson he will by then be getting towards his late 80s, so it seems just a little unlikely to me.}

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 12:29:49
Just wanted to gather some thoughts on the LeBron James things.

This isn't sitting well with me. It appears that in order to sign Mr James to their FSG ''Label'', that a portion of LFc ownership (small as it might be) was offered. The CEO of his marketing company has also received a stake.

These guys have not ''bought into'' the club, no money has changed hands. The stake of LFC has been used as a kind of sweetener to the deal!

Is this what we have been reduced to? A bargaining chip for FSG to attract clients? I have to say, im not ecstatic about this!

Maybe Im mis-reading the situation, if so, could someone explain it to me please!?

Emos1892

{Ed002's Note - I have a feeling that perhaps you have misunderstood this deal a little. The owners are looking to have James' LRMR Marketing and Branding company work on the image of the club and rather than paying them to do this they have swapped equity in the club. This is a two-way commercial exploitation package and one can only hope that it works better than the Manchester United deal with the NY Yankees about 10 years ago. Or maybe I have it wrong and LeBron James with have the Liverpool crest emblazoned on the side of his Prius so everyone can see his allegiance as he drives around Miami.}

just another thought, could nesv or what ever other . . they call themselves, are moving into the player right's and franchises, this could be very lucrative for them us and all of their other ventures, a new way forward in marketing, in the space of 8 months, we have new support from red sox fans, and now there will be attention from basketball fans, one of the majority sports in u.s. With the latest release of our asin tour!, nesv seem to be marketing their franchises globaly, and maximising our profits. . .
but their are sum con's to consider. . . .
this could be as disastrous as many other attempts by a company spreading themselves very thin, if they are getting into the martjeting side of players and player rights (naming etc), this may not sit well with future transfer targets especially high profile targets. .
we'll just have to wait and see i guess!
J4T86 ynwa
jasonlfc

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 12:42:31
Does anyone know much about LRMR are they any good at what they do, as we need to be looking at more ways to increase our commercial income. ross

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 12:46:44
{Ed002's Note - I have given plenty of thoughts on Marveaux on these pages. He turned down Manchester United and Chelsea as he did not think he would get enough time on the pitch. He would, in my view, be an excellent addition to the squad. You need to get your "Kenny Out" and "Yonks Out" flags unfurled as they are clearly not looking to bring in the players you want.}

exactly he turned down United and Chelsea cos he didn't think he would play too much. . so we are buying 2nd rate players rarely. . players who wouldn't get in the united/ arsenal/ chelsea sides. isn't that half our 1st team sides problem now. we should be buying players that would walk into there sides. . {Ed001's Note - no, they are not players who wouldn't get in their sides, but players who didn't want to be in a rotation system. Clearly you are one of those people who are just looking for reasons to whine about anything.}

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 12:23:24
Sell- Cole, Jova, Ngog, Krygiakos, Poulsen, Konchesky, Aurelio,
Degen, El-Zhar, Insua and Maxi.

Buy-
Benzema, Downing, Krasic(swap for Aqua), Taiwo

HAVE A SMALLER SQUAD FULL OF QUALITY RATHER THAN A LARGE SQUAD FULL OF ****!

Remember, even Birmingham won Silverware this year! 5 years is too long!

JUSTICE FOR THE 96.ALWAYS IN OUR HEARTS AND MINDS.YNWA!

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 12:21:01
Sorry ED that's kind of what I was saying, Im just not very clear. I wouldn't expect Le Bron James to have any liverpool badge anywhere on him but its definatley an advertising (comercial exploitation as you call it) deal for Henry & Co and all of there companies

{ED002's Note - To be clear, it is James' business (LRMR Marketing and Branding) that will be working on the image of the club. The equity exchange is simply a way of reiforcing the commitment of the parties.}
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Agreed and understood Ed but LRMR Marketing & Branding are Le Bron James, Hes the figure head otherwise there would be no point in highlighting it in news. If he was just a normal business man with marketing company It probably wouldn't blazed across ESPN website right now. Oh and I want to change my awnser about lebron james with the liverpool badge thing. . . I expect to paint his house red but that might be me just being a tad finatical.

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 12:19:46
So Sylvian Mervueax has agreed to join LFC,
Fingers crossed ,
looking @ his injury record and the previuos bosman signings ( degen, Jovanovic, Voronin) i very much doubt that he will make it at LFC,
Of course he will be better than what we have already ( Cole, Maxi ). .

Ed, Your thouhhts on Mervueax?

{Ed002's Note - I have given plenty of thoughts on Marveaux on these pages. He turned down Manchester United and Chelsea as he did not think he would get enough time on the pitch. He would, in my view, be an excellent addition to the squad. You need to get your "Kenny Out" and "Yonks Out" flags unfurled as they are clearly not looking to bring in the players you want.}

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 12:08:42
Liverpool FC are coming

Liverpool FC is delighted to announce the Club will be travelling to Asia this summer for a pre-season tour sponsored by Standard Chartered that will include games in China, Malaysia and Korea.

The Reds enjoy fantastic support in Asia and this summer's visit follows the hugely successful 10-day pre-season tour of Thailand and Singapore in 2009.

The team will take on opposition in Guangzhou, play a game in Kuala Lumpur, and then move to Seoul for the final fixture of the three-match tour in July.

"Whenever we go to Asia, the fans are always amazing, " said Liverpool FC captain Steven Gerrard. "The supporters over there are fanatical about Liverpool and it's great that we can give so many of them a chance to come and watch the team play."

The Club's Managing Director Ian Ayre said: "The last tour in 2009 was a real success and we're delighted that we are returning this summer after a break last year due to the FIFA World Cup. Nothing beats watching the team live and by visiting China, Malaysia and Korea, we are allowing fans from all three countries to experience just that. We will work closely with our main sponsor Standard Chartered and our other partners in the region to ensure we can deliver our best ever pre-season tour."

Gavin Laws, Group Head of Corporate Affairs at Standard Chartered, said: "We are very excited about Liverpool FC's Asia tour. It is fantastic news for Liverpool FC's fans in Asia and yet another sign of the commitment of the Club and Standard Chartered to the region. We are looking forward to some great football in July."

Details of the matches and ticketing options will be released soon.

ynwa j4t96

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 11:54:28
Dalglish needs to be quientioned tryna get spearing a new deal is he high?

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 11:58:27
{Ed002's Note - I have a feeling that perhaps you have misunderstood this deal a little. The owners are looking to have James' LRMR Marketing and Branding company work on the image of the club and rather than paying them to do this they have swapped equity in the club. This is a two-way commercial exploitation package and one can only hope that it works better than the Manchester United deal with the NY Yankees about 10 years ago. Or maybe I have it wrong and LeBron James with have the Liverpool crest emblazoned on the side of his Prius so everyone can see his allegiance as he drives around Miami.}
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Sorry ED that's kind of what I was saying, Im just not very clear. I wouldn't expect Le Bron James to have any liverpool badge anywhere on him but its definatley an advertising (comercial exploitation as you call it) deal for Henry & Co and all of there companies

{ED002's Note - To be clear, it is James' business (LRMR Marketing and Branding) that will be working on the image of the club. The equity exchange is simply a way of reiforcing the commitment of the parties.}

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 12:03:32
Football support in England is something that does concern me these days. John Bishop, the comedian, has said that Anfield is full of bald, middle aged men these days. And basically its all the same lads that started going in the late 70s / early 80s, who obviously retain their passion for their club.
You watch any game on tv these days, and much of the hard core support (esp those that go to away games) are of this age group. How can kids afford getting to the match these days ?
In 25 years time are we gonna have rows of zimmers on the Kop, flags waved aloft on walking sticks, meals on wheels at half time instead of the pint and burger, or what ??
Discuss please Eds, and put my troubled mind at ease.
KB

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 11:51:31
Just wanted to gather some thoughts on the LeBron James things.

This isn't sitting well with me. It appears that in order to sign Mr James to their FSG ''Label'', that a portion of LFc ownership (small as it might be) was offered. The CEO of his marketing company has also received a stake.

These guys have not ''bought into'' the club, no money has changed hands. The stake of LFC has been used as a kind of sweetener to the deal!

Is this what we have been reduced to? A bargaining chip for FSG to attract clients? I have to say, im not ecstatic about this!

Maybe Im mis-reading the situation, if so, could someone explain it to me please!?

Emos1892

{Ed002's Note - I have a feeling that perhaps you have misunderstood this deal a little. The owners are looking to have James' LRMR Marketing and Branding company work on the image of the club and rather than paying them to do this they have swapped equity in the club. This is a two-way commercial exploitation package and one can only hope that it works better than the Manchester United deal with the NY Yankees about 10 years ago. Or maybe I have it wrong and LeBron James with have the Liverpool crest emblazoned on the side of his Prius so everyone can see his allegiance as he drives around Miami.}

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 11:51:31
Just wanted to gather some thoughts on the LeBron James things.

This isn't sitting well with me. It appears that in order to sign Mr James to their FSG ''Label'', that a portion of LFc ownership (small as it might be) was offered. The CEO of his marketing company has also received a stake.

These guys have not ''bought into'' the club, no money has changed hands. The stake of LFC has been used as a kind of sweetener to the deal!

Is this what we have been reduced to? A bargaining chip for FSG to attract clients? I have to say, im not ecstatic about this!

Maybe Im mis-reading the situation, if so, could someone explain it to me please!?

Emos1892

{Ed002's Note - You are not misreading was has happened and may well happen again. This principle of equity exchange is a reasonably common way of showing commitment between the parties. Simply put, you will work harder for something if you own part of it and have the chance to benefit from it improving. 1% of $2M is better than 1% of $1M. I would not worry about it, and I would not be surprised if it happens again.}

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 11:44:29
I thought there was a very subdued atmosphere at the bridge last night. What's happened to Chelsea's singers?
I remember them coming to Anfield in the 80s with poor sides, but their fans would sing for entire 90 mins. The evil 'one man went to mow' etc. I know that they had a bit of a naughty reputation then but, in all seriousness Ed002, has Chelsea as a club forgotten its traditional support?
I say this as, imo, they have and there is a salutary lesson in that for LFC, with the ground development issue on the horizon.
KB

{Ed002's Note - To be honest, on the few occasions I go along each year they don't seem to make much noise most of the time. I can never make out the words to the songs in any case.}

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 11:39:57
It looks like Liverpool FC is to be broken up, bit by bit and given to Baseball stars that The Red Sox want to sign.
It seems Henry and Co have no real interest in LFC, than using there shares as an insentive to buy Baseball players. Liverpool what have you got yourselves into. Come back H&G all is forgiven. LOL LOL LOL
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Like it or not football ahs to be run as business at the top end. Looks like our owners are trying to build a global brand recognised throughtout the world. Basketball is a well followed sport throughout the world not just the states with Lebron James being one of the biggest names in sports at the moment. This will help with global branding of liverpool fc especially in places like japan, china & definately the states. Football is growing in the states and teams are getting better as more and more money is invested into it. Eventually I expect USA to producing some of the worlds best stars like they do in almost every other sport. I heard that benfica had paid millions for a 14 year old player from the states a while ago, maybe one of the eds can clarify this. Either way a name like le bron james is only going to help advertise Liverpool FC the same way that teams like Real madrid are advertised.

{Ed002's Note - I have a feeling that perhaps you have misunderstood this deal a little. The owners are looking to have James' LRMR Marketing and Branding company work on the image of the club and rather than paying them to do this they have swapped equity in the club. This is a two-way commercial exploitation package and one can only hope that it works better than the Manchester United deal with the NY Yankees about 10 years ago. Or maybe I have it wrong and LeBron James with have the Liverpool crest emblazoned on the side of his Prius so everyone can see his allegiance as he drives around Miami.}

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 11:32:56
Chavski ed. . A few questions relating to your No. 9

1. Where you happy with your purchase at the time?

2. Are you happy with your purchase now?

3. If you could have spent 50mil on any other striker who would you have chosen?

4. Would you like a refund?

(if the answer to 4 is yes, then I'm sorry we don't give refunds on broken goods! !)

{Ed002's Note - (1) Not particularly, but it was expected after what went on during the summer. (2) Not particularly, it will take time for him to settle in. I imaging next season will be better for him. (3) I would not have spent that all on one player and would probably have waited until the summer. (4) Not at all.}
MattyP {

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 10:47:45
07 Apr 2011 09:52:25
It looks like Liverpool FC is to be broken up, bit by bit and given to Baseball stars that The Red Sox want to sign.
It seems Henry and Co have no real interest in LFC, than using there shares as an insentive to buy Baseball players. Liverpool what have you got yourselves into. Come back H&G all is forgiven. LOL LOL LOL
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I think this guy had a bad night, two nurofen and a good kip will sort you proper ;)

Mjr Hufton tufton (rtd)

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 10:25:16
Mexes has confirmed he is set to join AC Milan in the summer on a pre contract

FACT

Ben LFC Since 1994

People who put 'FACT' after their comments are usually talking bull, FACT.

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 10:28:38
I keep reading people's transfer rumours on this page and people saying this player and that player are going to sign. But what i can't get my head round is the way everybody keeps putting down a list of players that are leaving which depending on who posted the list can be as high as 15 players going out. Can Liverpool really find this many despareted football clubs willing to take all this so called dead wood off the clubs hands. I mean the list has got so many rubbish players on it, if i was a manger of another club would i really want to buy any of these over paid over priced rubbish footballers:
jones
degan
the konk
the greek
insua
aqua
jona
poulsen
maxi
ngog
el zar
Other people have put on this list players which i wouldn't sell such as cole, kuyt, aurelio, spearing and some youth team reserve team players.

Come on are there really that many clubs to take this lot off are hands in 1 summer transfer window???? I think a few might go but i believe that liverpool will have to keep quite alot of them and try and find some other club to take them on loan or let them rot in the reserves until their contract runs out.

Basil

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 10:22:16
Ed. . with Le Bron being a minority stake holder at liverpool would that mean we could have a little bit more for the transfer kitty.

{Ed002's Note - No, not at all.}

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 09:50:51
Hi Ed(s) and fellow Kopites, just interested to hear what you think of the following transfer possibilities:

Jermain Defoe swap with Glen Johnson

12 mil + Agger for Xabi Alonso

14 mil + Ayala/ Wilson on season loan for G. Cahill

and

The wingers we should buy:

19 mil for Juan Mata
17 mil for Adam Johnson

{Ed002's Note - I don't think any of these are likely except possibly Adam Johnson and a very slim outside chance of Mata.}

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 09:52:25
It looks like Liverpool FC is to be broken up, bit by bit and given to Baseball stars that The Red Sox want to sign.
It seems Henry and Co have no real interest in LFC, than using there shares as an insentive to buy Baseball players. Liverpool what have you got yourselves into. Come back H&G all is forgiven. LOL LOL LOL

{Ed002's Note - LeBRon James plays basketball - not baseball.}

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 09:45:29
Liverpool signing Marveaux is a good piece of business can play as a true winger and will make an excellent squad addition.
I also am led to believe he can fill in at L.B. but i am not sure. {Ed002's Note - He can play across midfield. At left back he would be being played out of position.}

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 09:31:44
Hey Ed. Just read the Comolli interview in 442 mag and in it he says that Andy Carroll was the clubs top transfer target for the summer regardless of Torres being sold or not. In my eyes we're defo gonna sign another £25m+ forward. But who? Benzema, Lukaka and Llorente?

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 09:26:40
I have it on good authority that we will be signing the following in the summer: -
LB - Baines
CM - Benega
RM - Ashley Young
LM - Adam Johnson
ST - Benzema

We will be trying to ship out the following dead wood: -
Aquilani
Degen
Kyrgiakos
Konchersky
Aurelio
Jovanovic
Ngog
Spearing
Poulsen
El Zhar

Our squad will look like this: -

GK - Reina, Jones
LB - Baines, Insua
CB - Agger, Skrtel, Carra, Wilson
RB - Johnson, Kelly
LM - Adam Johnson, Cole
CM - Gerrard, Benega, Lucas, Meireles, Shelvey
RM - Ashley Young, Maxi
ST - Benzema, Suarez, Carroll, Kuyt

You heard it here first

TOPHAT

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 01:58:07
Ed what would be your expectations for next season? {Ed002's Note - I expect Liverpool to be challenging for a top four position.}

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 02:44:30
06 Apr 2011 22:06:34
BASKETBALL MEGASTAR LeBron James has struck a deal with the owners of Liverpool FC to become a part owner of the club, it s been reported tonight.
The Wall Street Journal said James, currently with Miami Heat, had reached a deal with Liverpool s owner Fenway Sports Group which would see James take on a small stake in the club, in returning for giving an FSG subsidiary the right to become his exclusive worldwide agent.
The deal, the WSJ said, was the first time that a professional athlete had taken an ownership in a team of Liverpool s stature.
We re not interested in talent or athlete representation but we think he is one of the most remarkable athletes of his time, FSG co-owner Tom Werner said in an interview.
We believe we can open doors for LeBron, and LeBron can open doors for us.
James, who earns $15, 800,000 per season with the Heat, joined the side after a protracted, high-profile move from the Cleveland Cavaliers last summer. He also takes in an estimated $30m a year through sponsorship deals with the likes of Nike and Coca-Cola.
His basic sporting wage equating to around £185,000 a week is higher than that of Liverpool s own highest earner, club captain Steven Gerrard, who is thought to earn about £135,000 a week.
FSG previously known as New England Sports Ventures won control of the Anfield club following a protracted battle of their own against the club s former owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett during the summer.
That takeover saw legal action at courts on either side of the Atlantic, with courts in Dallas imposing injunctions on the sale of the club by chairman Martin Broughton only for Britain s High Court to then rule the earlier injunctions void.
Hicks and Gillett are still pursuing Broughton and the other former members of the Liverpool board for damages.
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erm not only am i a liverpool red, i also think im a red sox, and now a lebron fan with the heats! ! and also New England Patriots (which i have been for a good few years now)

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 02:53:01
Ed. . . .With Johnson, Agger, Kelly, and Aurelio out through injury who can you see as our back four on Monday against man city. {Ed001's Note - I have been wondering this and whether we have the personnel to go for a back 3 or not. I think it will end up being Carra, Skrtel, Kyrgiakos and Wilson. But I would like to see Flanagan, Carra, Skrtel and Wilson myself.}
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I fear we are going to be torn to shreds by City with our dfence in tatters - I agree with Ed that Soto will start in the middle - and God help us because of it - wouldn't be suprised if Kenny plays 3 holding midfielders (Lucas, Jay and Poulsen) in an attempt to minimise the damage. Soto was humiliated by Odemwingie - imaging what A Johnson, Ballotelli, Dzeko and Tevez will do to him - scary though.

LIVERPRES

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 05:18:20
Everyone should really take a good look at the owners we have not including Lebron James lol even though that really isn't the worst thing. I am talking about Tom Werner and John Henry. These guys are really rich specifically Werner this guy is a billionaire with lots and lots of real rich friends. They are smart and excellent business men. They are going to take our club to new heights. So I don't want to hear that we can't afford this guy or that guy or he will cost too much not anymore. They are going to spend and invest big into the club.They know the value of a winner. A losing club is worth nothing. But a historic, filled with tradition, household name, synonymous with European and English football trophy and championship laden club like Liverpool winning trophies again is a gold mine. They are going global and it is going to generate so much more money and publicity everywhere. South America, North America and Asia all getting focused on I feel it. Real good times are ahead. We will never be priced out anymore.

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 07:42:53
Check out Matt Hughes article in The Times about Chelski v Spam last night, makes some good points about TraiTorres.

YNWA jns

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 08:11:24
Got a text this morning, my mate said this

LFC will sign:

Cahill (12m)
Baines/ Enrique/ Coentrao (8-22m)
Adam (8.5m)
Young (12m)
Dzsudzsak (12.5m)
Benzema (24m)
Marveaux (Free)

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 01:41:21
07 Apr 2011 01:04:09
Why do Mancs come on to this site which is for 'Liverpool fans'. Mud in the eye or annoyed that we have owners who are going to spend. We look on the up, same can't be said for United. {Ed001's Note - Liverpool fans also post on the United site, it is called banter for a reason mate. Just enjoy the fact that the club is important enough to make it worth their while posting on the site.}

@We come on here Ed to respond to LFC fans Blair etc who come on our page, like you say Ed it's just banter but it has nothing to do with importance.

Alan

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 01:33:32
It looks like that the LeBron James and FSG deal was brought together by Berkshire Hathaway (Warren Buffett's company) He is the 2nd richest man on the planet. I'm not saying that Buffett has anything to do with us. But it is reassurring to know that our owners have good friends and connections.

Blair Mayne YNWA

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 01:13:51
What time can I buy tickets online for members with less than 11 home games last season trying to get tickets for Newcastle for me an my son both members but songbird buy do I need to wait till morning anybody please help


Kiss the badge YNWA

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 01:04:09
Why do Mancs come on to this site which is for 'Liverpool fans'. Mud in the eye or annoyed that we have owners who are going to spend. We look on the up, same can't be said for United. {Ed001's Note - Liverpool fans also post on the United site, it is called banter for a reason mate. Just enjoy the fact that the club is important enough to make it worth their while posting on the site.}

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 00:40:46
I believe that players such as kuyt just are not good enough for this lvl, do you really think he would ever make it into a top four Premier league team? I think not, a very wise Liverpool supporter who is rarely is wrong said to me quote Liverpool will never win a major trophy with this waster on our team" and I know I'm having a go at one for our better performers as of late but I am baffled that people are loving him because he is the least exciting player in the premier league. And yes I hate kuyt with a passion no skill at all YNWA
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look at it this way mate, the piece of s**te that is michael owen nowadays is in the premier league champions squad, at least kuyt is better than him. just look at his 3 goals when his played actually played in the right position

kuyt is used out of necessity, i'm sure owen would be playing regularly if united lost their best forward players, but when we've signed another striker and a few wingers next season, you can expect to see deadly dirk being used more sparingly

doesn't hurt to have a man like him around, experienced and loyal, to set a good example to the younger players.

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 00:48:50
Macca you didn't mention the LeBron James signing, you're losing your touch mate.

Blair Mayne YNWA

Ps. Does anyone else agree we should fly LeBron over and start him in CD against City, instead of Soto?

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 00:53:56
Ed reckon comolli will want to keep n'gog? he seems to have a thing for the frenchmen {Ed001's Note - no, I don't expect to see Ngog in the first team squad next season, I expect him to go out on loan if a buyer can't be found.}

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 00:06:39
Ins:
wendt free lb
young 15m rw
adam 8m cm
sissoko 15m cdm
marveaux free lw
dzusdzak 12m lw
so that's 50m
defo be happy with that lot
sell:
poulsen 3m
ngog 3m
maxi 3m
konchesky 2m
insua 3m
jovanovic 6m
jones 2m
krygiakos free
degen 2m
el zhar 1m
mavinga 1m
ince 250k
amoo 250k
eccleston 250k
spearing 1m
total 27.5m so 22.5 from owners maybe more for a cb and striker.

squad:
gk:reina, gulacsi, hansen, bouzanis
rb:kelly, flannagan
cb:ayala, wilson, skrtel
cb:agger, carra, wisdom
lb:johnson, wendt, robinson
rw:young, cole
lw:dzusdzak, marveaux
cdm:sissoko, lucas, coady
cm, adam, gerrard, meireles, shelvey, suso
st:suarez, carroll, kuyt, saric, ngoo,

 

 

 

 

07 Apr 2011 00:06:47
Liverpool have many problem positions that need to be sorted out for next season.

Center back: Cahill to replace Carragher.

Left back: Enrique or Baines.

Defensive midfield: Banega or Adam

Right wing: A. Johnson or Chung Lee

Left wing: Turan or Young

Striker: Honda.

 

 

 

 

06 Apr 2011 23:56:11
Dissapointed with our whimper of a season. man utd were expected to be a spent force, but are now in with a great chance of a champions league semi final place along with being odds on favourite to clinch the Premier league title and an FA cup.

Hopefully Dalglish will make us competitive again. Since Dalglish became manager, LFC have been as consistaint as the top 5 premier league teams.

A few useful signings that will give LFC more options accross the field along with the coaching combination of Kenny Dalglish and Steve Clarke could make it a more productive season for Liverpool next season.

 

 

 

 

 
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