Liverpool Banter Archive August 07 2013

 

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07 Aug 2013 22:37:21
Macca, you was spot on again, even though luis suarez is doing the dirty on us, after we, kenny, lfc as a whole stuck by him, let him go for the 45 /50 mill that the gunners are hopefully coming back with (or even better, madrid)

have you any idea at all who will replace him?

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07 Aug 2013 22:30:42
Ed's/Macca

A few rumours going round suggesting something is going to come out on the Suarez saga in the next few hours. have you heard anything?

We all know he is going but what are your thoughts on the likely price he will eventually go for given Rodgers/Ayre and JH's stance and media answers lately.

Personally if LFC could afford it I would do a City and stick him in the reserves for a few months and make him train with the kids but not going to happen.

Love us to sell him for 45 million and go and buy Jackson M from Porto and Costa from Athletico. and if we are a buying club get our finger out for a CB

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07 Aug 2013 23:49:49
i think the first half of todays game just how regular coates is as a couple of times the striker just got straight past him so I think it is very important that we get good back up because if skrtel does leave and agger and toure is injured we will have a horrible time defending
also eds any chance of willian anzi are looking to sell and he could be available for a slightly cheaper price also he is versatile and can play across front 3

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07 Aug 2013 23:45:28
Hi all first time post. Is there any truth to Rogers willin to let Agger go for £25 mill?

I would take it. thoughts anyone? thank you

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Really? Is that you Dani Alves or are you Lionel Messi?

25 mill for Agger? Nope. 35 million and we can talk.

If we are going to be a selling club, by Jove, then you will have to pay!
Thank u.

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I would decline the offer. Agger is classy

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No! Agger will be captain some day!

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I would only take it if he himself wanted to go. As far as I'm concerned, if Agger wants to stay, he can stay until he retires.

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And start completly reshaping our central defenders line? Central defenders often need time to ''get to know each other''. I think it would be a huge blow to loose someone like Agger. His been with us for a long time and I think its healthy to have a loyal player in the squad who's not from Liverpool, for once.

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07 Aug 2013 23:05:27
Just watching kolo toure's interview on LFC tv . The bloke could have the same impact as Gary mac . He is coming across like a true pro . Plus he has looked quality in the games I have seen . Just hope Danny Agger stays and we sign one more CB to fight for first team ( if MS leaves ) plus we have wisdom and Kelly . Got a good feeling about this season but we do need 1 or 2 more quality players in . I would have thought it would have been a good move to have the players in before the season starts though . anything new eds? Cheers
YNWA
Jamesee

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07 Aug 2013 23:03:15
excellent read in the echo fellow reds

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07 Aug 2013 23:00:08
So Everton are doing a spurs this summer and going for supposed lfc targets in alderweireld and jorginho. With our resent history that can't be too clever! As for suarez please f**k off abroad somewhere

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Sigurdson and Dempsey. So disappointed we didn't get them.

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07 Aug 2013 22:58:19
Hey Ed's won't be on for a while as I'm going to Barcelona with the family for two weeks. Good luck with the site and I'll post when I get back. See you soon! {Ed001's Note - have a great time mate.}

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07 Aug 2013 22:54:54
Hey ed I had a little laugh when the pfa came out and said there was no buy out clause in LS contract even though yiz have been saying it for a long time. What do you think the poor little weasel will do now? {Ed001's Note - judging by his previous efforts to get a move, it will be time to go on strike now.}

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And do we have to pay his salaries even if he is on strike?

If we don't have to pay his wages, I think we should encourage him to go on strike for the next 3 years. {Ed002's Note - No, there is no need to pay them.}

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Given his rather lackluster effort in the few minutes he's had on the pitch recently, I just assumed he was already on strike.

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Can you fine a player more then his wages?

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07 Aug 2013 22:54:16
Got to say Rodgers has handled the Suarez situation superbly. All summer he has had an excuse to leave Media, champions league and now a gentlemen's agreement. Can we actually believe a word he says anymore? Simple answer NO! The only shame is arsenal have fell for his bollox. I only hope now we get a proper bid of over £55m and from a foreign side because he would only rip apart the Arsenal fans hearts also. Get rid and get on with Liverpool.
I'm a Liverpool fan for 35 years and have never heard of anything like this before. YNWA.

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07 Aug 2013 22:53:03
Hi all. can't wait for the session to start. I think its going to be the most open in years. My wish for the session is Liverpool in the top four and Moyes to take utd down. LOL. P.S. what's the name of the premier league dream team mini league and the code?
Thanks Warr68

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07 Aug 2013 22:19:53
The bt sport thing is just a mixture of Madrid becoming interested again(they never lost interest) and tomorrow's papers Rodgers says enough is enough get rid basically

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07 Aug 2013 22:19:35
Newspaper leak is about Suarez being forced to train alone after showing public display of disespect towards LFC

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Should be made to play in a dunces hat

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07 Aug 2013 22:19:09
Gotta love Brendan Rogers: from Lfc
Meanwhile, journalists assembled at the Ullevaal Stadium quizzed Rodgers about Luis Suarez.

The manager replied: "My conversations with players will always remain private. I'll never disclose any conversation between a player and I.

"In terms of the remarks that were made, this is a football club that has always worked a certain way. The Liverpool Way is all about a club with ambition, a club that strives to be the very best, a club that is about commitment - that means that everyone is committed to the cause of fighting for the shirt.

"It's also about dignity and being dignified in how you speak about the club, on and off the field, and it's about unity.

"Those are the four values that run through my mind when I think about Liverpool. Those are the values we will always retain. If anyone steps outside of that standard, I will deal with it. That's something that we'll do.

"It means that we have a standard at Liverpool that I will fight for my life to retain. There will never be any player or person bigger than the club."

Rodgers continued: "Professionally, Luis Suarez has given me everything since I came into the football club, but there is obviously a way in which you have to speak. This is a club that has offered Luis Suarez the utmost respect since the day he walked through the door.

"That's something that over the course of the coming weeks you need to have when you work for Liverpool Football Club. You've got supporters and players that have given Luis Suarez absolutely everything - they backed him to the hilt.

"Even at the weekend, when we had Steven Gerrard's testimonial game, the supporters raised the roof for him. That's something that I will always fight to retain at the football club, because that is what Liverpool is about - respect, humility and real dignity."

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Haven't seen the footage of this (is there video?), but that's actually a pretty class statement.

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And that is why i'm positive for this season, what a manager we have folks.

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Brendan will actually come good. 2-3 more signings and we will make top 4

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07 Aug 2013 22:19:01
Eds fellow reds, news is that we will, have to read the telegraph tomorrow, but it seems BR has had enough of Luis and he will let him go to arenal .

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Read article in Liverpool Echo, he will not go to Arsenal

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07 Aug 2013 22:14:53
Well. now Barca have bid for Agger! If, and it's an If, he goes then it really begins to worry me that everyone is leaving. or rather we are the team other clubs pick players from. not a selling club, but a club whose players may be tempted to leave! Still waiting for marquee signings we were told about. I am extremely worried. this is the time for FSG to make a statement, our best player (sadly) wants to leave for a rival and what's worse our rival now dares to bid for our best player! This hasn't happened since Torres, but many of us were grateful for the 50M then. We must strenghten now with quality to make a statement. Selling Agger would be worst than selling Suarez as far as our credibility goes. this is the window where a lot of things will become clear to us the fans! FSG and Rodgers must steady the ship as it doesn't take a genius to see we are wobbling a little bit and Liverpool FC should not, could not and must not ever wobble! come on FSG make it happen!

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Read article in Liverpool Echo, you will be relieved of your stress

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Dagger`s not going anywhere.

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Stop whining IranRed in London! The owners have been statements after statement every transfer window!

When Suarez leaves, there will be a substantial amount of money to spend on a replacement and re-enforce the centre back area.

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07 Aug 2013 21:32:46
Why has Brendan Rogers had veneers done? More time spent on signing Bernard, Muriel, Papa, and the Russian left winger with the long name and less time on your teeth son Thankyou very much! Seriously though has since our Brendan started his Shane warne'esque makeover what a decent side we have looked. keep losing the weight and wightening those teeth Brenda, top 4 here we come!

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07 Aug 2013 22:48:57
bernard going to spurs

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For the bus tour holding the premiership trophy

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Why do some people think that every supposed Liverpool target is going to move to Spurs?

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07 Aug 2013 21:31:57
I feel that this window is potentially ver big for us, and could affect us 4-5 years from now. With the spine of our team going, such as Suarez, and maybe Agger, Reina is gone, I feel that the right money needs to be invested in the right departments. I think we can get away with our current midfield. I also think that the left back position is covered, as Enrique, and Johnson can both play there. We are short of 1 decent centre back, and if Agger and Coates go, I feel we should invest in Papadopoulos, and someone like Alderweireld. This can be partially funded by the sale of Suarez, and with the remainder of that money, we should be looking to get a goal scoring right winger in, to challenge, or replace Downing. Maybe Vela or Lens can be good. I am confident that Rodgers and the board can pull something better than what I have displayed here though.

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Suarez is a lying rat who will be no spine for any team. Dagger is not going anywhere because he has loyalty and knows that lfc stood by him thru all his injuries. If he wanted to leave, he would have gone last year. Everybody needs to calm down. Because Barca mad a bid doesn`t mean we have to sell. Pepe and Suarez ar leavin because we don`t need uncommitted players in our ranks. Not anymore.

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Well I agree in all, but that Lens is not a possibility as he has just gone to Dynamo Kyiv.

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07 Aug 2013 21:19:16
Hi eds and reds, just wondering- assuming that Suarez will leave for between 40 and 60 million pounds, do you think we will replace him with a marquee (and therfore high price) signing (or two) or do you think we'll buy a few inexpensive or young players and save some of the money? A response would be greatly appreciated. Cheers Figired {Ed001's Note - I doubt we will be using the money to buy tents mate, more likely to bring in some players. Inexpensive is a relative term.}

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07 Aug 2013 21:15:40
A fellow fan put this suggestion to me earlier.
Approach Chelsea (they are looking at Rooney, so must be needing a striker) and try to arrange a deal for Suarez going to them and us getting cash plus player (possibly Bertrand).
Use this as a fall-back option if a foreign club doesn't come in for Suarez.
No way should he be sold to Arsenal.
Why potentially strengthen one of our direct rivals for 4th spot?
He has 3 years left on his watertight contract and needs to play in this World Cup year.
Stick him in the stiffs. If he refuses, we save on wages as he will be fined each time.
Keep him there until he has a change of heart.

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Why not approach Chelsea and say "straight swap - Suarez for Lukaku"

I'd be happy with that but I seriously doubt Chelsea would accept!

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07 Aug 2013 21:10:04
Get rid of him now. I've had enough of this clown dragging our club's name through the mud as and when it suits him. Fantastic footballers are only fantastic when they want to play (FT & Masc prove my point) This DF thinks he can play when HE wants and how he wants. LFC and the fans supported him through all he's done the good, bad and definately ugly but do anyone of you on here have any doubts that he will continue with his behaviour, want another move in two years if arse haven't won a throphy? I for one don't.

It is early days still but I do beleive the squad and the style of play is showing lots of encouraging signs in pre-season and appears to have carried on from the back end of last season with dominating teams and scoring goals without conceeding many either.

I am feeling positive about the forthcoming season and hopefully we will add a couple more quality players to boost us further. I was unsure about BR when we appointed him, but I have now changed my mind, he buy's players to fit a system (thats good to watch) rather than buying for buying sake, the players clearly belive in him and his ideal's so as fans we should also (of course that doesn't mean you can't have an opinion on his, team selection, players, buys etc) but as mentioned the players appear to have bought into his methods, they look fitter and sharper and most importantly they look happy! Bring on 2013/14 and let's see where we go! T-Mac

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07 Aug 2013 21:06:47
£15m fir Agger, I don't know what they are smoking at the Nou Camp!

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If Agger decides he wants to go, then as far as I'm concerned I'd wish him well and I would like to think he'd always be welcomed back warmly if they ever happened to come to Anfield.

I do really hope he doesn't take it, but at 28 he's unlikely to get another opportunity of that size and, unlike certain others, he's never been anything but 100% loyal to the club so I couldn't fault him for it at all. Tough decision the lad has, but hopefully he stays. If he does, I may have to revise my choice from the most loyal player list we were talking about the other day ;-)

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Agger turned down AC MIlan a while ago, then Man City and Monaco, who no doubt would have offered him a huge pay rise. He will stay!

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07 Aug 2013 20:58:19
what is happening are we going to have a team left, coutinho suarez and agger! selling team or what? haha I know we haven't sold or we won't but lfc should be in the news for signing players by times have changed, a word of optimism for us fans . LIVERPOOL HAVE MORE THAN A 10% BETTER WIN RATIO THAN PLAYING WITHOUT SUAREZ THAN WITH HIM. no question he's great but he makes teams one man teams. he gets ball and dribbles, its not so much a team with him we shall see but who do we replace him with wev clearly got 20 odd million there for attacking player so sell suarez your 70 odd million and 250 k per week but we just can't find anyone markets not great this year were starting to struggle

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07 Aug 2013 20:54:20
Don't know how true it is but I've just read on news now that the PFA are leaning towards LFC in the interpretation of the 'clause'. If that's true it does make Suarez and his agent look a little silly, just want this sorted now but still desperately want him to go abroad.

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He and his agent thought they were clever. They`ve been found out big time as for the thugs they actually are.

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07 Aug 2013 20:54:06
Really looking forward to the new season, even without Suarez. the team and squad looks like its growing and improving all the time, Henderson Coutinho and Ibe are really looking quality and hopefully Sturridge will do the business next season although I am worried about how often he gets injured.
One negative and I hate being Negative about my team but Borini, runs hard gets in good positions, but he couldn't hit a barn door, he just doesn't have that natural instinct to finnish, nothing to do with confidence he just panics and fluffs chances he will never be prolific, goalscorers are born! {Ed001's Note - the exact same things were said about Rush in his first few years with us.....}

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Paisley told Rushie to be more selfish on the pitch and he never looked back.

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Ed leaving in the past. Are you really comparing Borini with Rush? Or the football of that time with the football of 2013?
Borini should be sold. {Ed001's Note - neither, just saying it is silly to judge a player without giving him a chance. Borini is more of a Kuyt upgrade, if I was going to compare him with someone. I certainly don't see any reason to sell the lad, I find it sad that people like you are on his back for no reason.}

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And Suarez 12 months ago by many after hitting the post 30+ times.

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07 Aug 2013 20:53:23
Bt sports at ten is Louis Saha not Suarez!
God this Suarez drama has to end

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07 Aug 2013 20:45:24
hi eds any idea what bt sport will reveal as an exclusive about Suarez at 10pm tonight {Ed002's Note - Twitter is this? If it is, please don't bring it here as we really don't have the time for it.}

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Aren't people already tired of talking about one single player?

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07 Aug 2013 22:17:22
Not this time ed, he announced it at the end of the coverage of the valarega match {Ed002's Note - Let me know when you know what it is then.}

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No eds the guy from the telegraph speaking after the game today said he had exclusive info on suarez they could only release after 10 {Ed002's Note - Exciting.}

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The BtSport post game report brought it up saying exclusive Suarez leak at 10

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Rumour is arsenal to offer £51 million for him

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I suspect if they'd offered 41M or 42M mast time we might have been more receptive, but from what's been said, it sounds like the 40M+1 bid so rubbed JH the wrong way that he'll tell them to get stuffed.

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08 Aug 2013 11:35:44
It was said after the match by some guy from one of the papers

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07 Aug 2013 20:39:55
What up everyone I just want to say that I really want Suarez to go to Arsenal. I want this so that he plays maybe 2 champs games before they get kicked out and then he starts realizing that he ****ed his whole career up with the move. I say this because maybe we don't qualify next season I have never been this encouraged by the way we are playing. Since we lost champs football Rafa was in a war with the owners, Hodgson was never truly accepted and givin zero support which in turn forced the club to appoint King Kenny back who for me was trying to hard to get Big andy playing well that the rest of the team suffered. Not until last season was I actually impressed with the way we played. Even in games we lost I was not pissed like before because I saw that what BR was doing was actually working. I can't see us being out of the top four that much longer (2 seasons max) and for me I agree with BR and Kolo Arsenal at themoment may look better but they are a step down. Unlike us they have had champs footy but still have yet to make any progress in the past 8 years they buy great players make a push for the league end up third and then sell there best player. I would put all my money that in the next 2 years if its not us then Spurs will kick them out of the top four and by then Luis will be old and unwanted. call me stupid idc cause I know in two years suarez will be just a memory and we will have someone new to worship. (sorry for the rant my head exploded from see the same suarez rubbish everyday for a month)

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Great! but what if Suarez is on fire at the Arsenal and they win the league or god forbid the Champions League?
Don't say it's not possible because it is.
I don't think that will happen but just the same If he's going? better to go outside the PL just case.

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Kidmillions, if Arsenal couldn't do either of those things with Van Persie (who is a much better striker than Suarez) then why would they be able to with Suarez? Chelsea won the CL with Torres (well, kinda)- did it really hurt so much? Frankly, I didn't care, same way I wouldn't care if Suarez went to Arsenal and they won something for once (again, something I think is very unlikely to happen).

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07 Aug 2013 20:31:55
Well Suarez is going now, I guess that's it for the season for Liverpool now, may as well give up and accept that the reds are now doomed to be a Mid-table club for life.

That's what I expect will be the thoughts of many a pundit and a fan. It's around time for the scaremongers and eternal pessimists to come out, calling for Suarez's head and some how link his wanting to leave to Rodgers for not giving Suarez his house or how FSG are to blame because they bought a newspaper instead of offering him £1 million a week.
But, before you hit the panic button and curl up in to a ball, let me say something that I have wanted to say for a while. I think Luis Suarez's importance to the team has been overrated hugely. At the start of the season and up until January, Suarez was as important as people say he is now, but there are two reasons why that status has changed. Coutinho and Sturridge. Before the arrived, Luis was the only player, apart from Stevie who could create and score goals, and everyone knows that without him, we would have finished somewhere not worth thinking about. But since then, we signed two gems. Coutinho has all the skill and vision of Suarez without the insanity and Sturridge who scored 11 goals and got 3 assists in 14 games. And thanks to the ever dependable Suarez, we've already seen that Liverpool can thrive without him. We can win games without him, and that's without mentioning any replacements that we may buy. I'm sure that there are many that think we can never replace Suarez. And they're right. Just like how we could never replace Torres, what's worse, we got stuck with some unknown random South American that only played in Holland. But in all seriousness, this happens to every great team. United lost Ronaldo and they didn't do too badly since them. But the prime example of how we should react is looking at the example of Arsenal. They lost Rvp, who scored 40 goals for them with the next highest scorer for the whole season was Walcott with 10. As important as Suarez was to us, Rvp was far more important to them, they only sold him for 24 mill and didn't even buy a decent replacement, but they still managed to finish fourth. It's not the end of the world if we lose Suarez, in fact, it could well be healthy for us. With Suarez, I had always been worried that we could suffer from an issue which we had with Torres, which was that We werp play to focused on one player, and when that players playing well it's great, but when they can't score, we have an issue. When we don't have him at the fore, we play with more freedom. It's not about giving the ball to Suarez and let him score, but just to get the ball into to the goal, no matter who puts it in. In the end, players come and go. We had to move on from Rush, Fowler, Owen and many others and we'll move on from Suarez to. The one thing that characterised ( and I hate to use his example) Fergie's reign was that no player was ever bigger than the club and as soon as your ego get's too big and you stop putting the team first, you were out of there. No matter if you were Ronaldo, Beckham or Van Nistelrooy, you were replaceable, and his team thrived on it, because that is the most important yet often overlooked part of football. It's a team game. There are 11 players on the pitch and all of them are needed to get anywhere. I would much rather we spend the money from Suarez on two or three great players. We don't have to replace Suarez like for like straight away, especially as there are no players in any of the major leagues that we could get. We need to spend smart and buy players all over the pitch that will improve the team in many different ways, and so that o he player doesn't have to suffer under the weight of a huge price tag, a la Carroll. In the end, this is just another player in the reds history. And I for one, do care in the slightest that he is going. Infact, I'm pleased. I would love to hear some reaction from fans or eds alike.

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I doubt anyone will read that.

Hit return once in a while.

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All very well and long winded but you won't get any of the players agreeing with you? Suarez is a match winner especially when your matched up against the top sides he'll make the difference.
Highly respected professional people within the game (Wenger being one of them) are prepared to pay £40m plus for his rare ability despite his temperement, hence the comments from Stevie, BR and the club.
I'm not saying he's not going but don't kid yourself he's not currently the best Lfc player by a mile.

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Nice speech, you are correct on what you say, without Suarez we play as a team, when Suarez plays we rely on him too much so if he has a good game it's all good if he has a bad game then we are messed up, courtino and sturridge we do the business along with aspas I think his a class signing Alberto given time will shine Henderson picking up now so I think we will have a good season Remember how long it took lucas to settle in now the fans love him, we just need cb lb and a adm then watch the kop rock . Sorry for the long post needed to let it out lol

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Just to pick up one point about old whiskey nose. It was more about if the players ego became bigger than his. Utd took a good few years to rebuild and recover after he dumped Jaap Stam who was the best CB in Europe and replaced him with Lauren Blanc. He made some terrible decisions about dumping his star players.

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Kidmillions, I realize you're probably just using a euphemism of sorts, but I struggle a bit with the idea that Suarez is a "matchwinner"?

Suarez won us exactly one match last year- FA Cup at Mansfield Town was the only goal he had that led directly to a win. Arguably I guess you could say his 3 goals at Norwich allowed us to win 5-2 and perhaps his opener against Tottenham kept us from a 2-2 draw. Every other goal he had either got us a draw, a loss, or was irrelevant and for my mind he's more of a 'match-drawer' which I guess is okay.

Contrast with someone like Bale, for instance, who had actual matchwinners at WBA, Newcastle, West Ham, Swansea, Soton, and Sunderland.

I agree that individually he's a very talented player and probably the best on the team even (if I were to compare something like FM or FIFA stats), but he's just one person and, in the context of a team, he's totally replaceable. Granted we would have struggled first half of last year without him, but come the second half when the team was shaping up he was much less important and, frankly, we've looked far better this pre-season without him then we did last pre-season with him.

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07 Aug 2013 20:27:08
Where will Eriksem end up?

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07 Aug 2013 23:03:12
he is absolutely desperate to join spurs! but avb is not a fan! sherwood and the scouting system are though and a mini battle iis taking palce at whl, I think avb could win this one though?

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Don`t care

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Judging by how much he and his agent have been touting him around Europe, he's desperate to join about a dozen teams.

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07 Aug 2013 20:47:32
To be honest the only person I don't want to have told him he can leave if we did not make the CL is the owners. if Rodgers or Ayre have said it, it really means zip. They are employees, own no shares and do not have the ultimate authority to make these decisions. Even Ian Ayre wiil need to get approval

Rodgers can say he has gone to the owners and said he thinks Suarez should now go but ultimately they are the ones to do it.

FSG do not mess around. Look at when the club was sold, they did not back away with the threat of legal action from H&G. They faced up to it. Suarez is minor irritant.

You can be sure that top lawyers have looked at this clause and will have given their legal judgement.

The PFA are not what you would call a neutral party, they cannot be seen to go against their members in this case.

I think The management have played a blinder so far. My guess is they are trying to force Arsenal to pay more but they have also been waiting for Suarez to put in his transfer request.

Suarez has shot himself in the foot now. That interview has now saved Liverpool 2 million quid (5% of 40 million), they just need to sit tight and they have saved money. If Suarez does not put the transfer request in then it will just destroy is reputation more. (What is left of it)

The club has waited because they knew he could not keep his mouth shut and all the reaction from virtually anywhere has been negative on him. He really looks like a hypocrite. I suspect in his mind he will return and get a warm welcome because is a legend having played a grand total of 96 games.

He opened his mouth and all loyalty for him just left the Liverpool fans. Anything left wanting to stay has gone. The club has won the PR game with the Liverpool fans (although at a cost to their reputation outside which will soon be forgotten). Fans are now more behind FSG and Rodgers than at anytime and Arsenal fans must be cr**ing themselves what he will do there.

I can see a much more rigid release clause in his Arsenal contract, a higher salary and a lot of other nonsense. I can only see this going one way for Arsenal.

And for Arsenal, I suspect Liverpool will be a little less accommodating for them in the future.

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Good post orrin

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100% Correct. Pity some fans can't see this and are still confused by managements press releases.
Suarez is so desperate to leave but I think the Mrs has that 5% cut of the transfer fee budgeted for shoes!
Thats the delay with the transfer request.
Even with him Arsenal won't make top 4 as his "one man team" style of play worked for us when we DIDN'T have a squad 1st half of the season. But it don't really suit a teamwork style play like like arsenal or like we played 2nd half of last season. It would be self destructive and players won't bother making supporting runs as he won't pass.

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Agreed mate.

His agent and lawyer have really badly advised him here over this clause and generally with how he has conducted himself .

Wenger must now be thinking can I spend £40 mill on someone less unsavoury and more hassle free.

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I live in America and owners of sports teams have little to NO contact with players in terms of contracts. They have general managers to handle that. Suarez and his camp of incompetents are barking up the wrong tree by trying to mess w/ an American owner. They will fail miserably because they don`t take crap from players and agents. They will always have the FINAL say because they write the checks.

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07 Aug 2013 20:36:59
PFA siding with Liverpool on the Suarez Transfer.
Taylor "It does not say the club has to sell. It quite clearly states £40million is a minimum offer for discussions." {Ed002's Note - But it is nothing to do with him.}

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Liverpool are a multi-million pound corporation; the lawyers would have advised long ago that Suarez has no legal case whatsoever. FSG do not play about and probably find all these hoo-hah quite amusing. They always knew Suarez had no legal leg to stand on. So impressed with the way we're handling this but if I was Suarez i'd sack my entire team of advisors/agents/lawyers immediately as he's been shockingly advised. He will go for 50million or not at all, simple. Not sure why there has been all this drama about it really. We don't have to sell, we won't sell below his valuation, we won't sell to a rival regardless of the offer, there is no "release clause" and we do not need to sell him to add to the team. We cannot come out of this worse off so everybody needs to relax. The days of LFC being handled like a mickey mouse operation are over. Suarez is desperate hence why he went public. He knows without interest from a foreign club he ain't going nowhere. Karma is a b***h, Luis.

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08 Aug 2013 11:34:57
Ed02, Suarez made it about them when he asked them to look into his contract etc, that's the only reason they are commenting, apparently they've looked and he's full of it. Still want him gone mind, he's way too much bother.
YNWA JFT96 {Ed002's Note - There has been rather a lot of misinformation about this.}

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07 Aug 2013 20:28:35
Eds fellow reds, there is a breaking story on Luis Suarez tonight at10pm on the new bt sports channel .dont know what it is . If someone knows let us know, if not I will post as soon as I hear it as close to 10 pm .

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It's all over the web, PFA chief executive has checked the contract at request of Suarez, he has confirmed there is NO release clause only a starting point of £40m to begin negotiations, nothing to force a sale.
don't think PFA have any power over this any way but the interview was done by the guardian. On New now site.

Eds correct again!!

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07 Aug 2013 20:26:20
Why's it all gone quiet on Dzagoev? He was one of European hottest prospects during euro12? I know Liverpool held interest whilst kenny was here, is there anoint yapping with him? Great player

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07 Aug 2013 20:19:41
Hi eds is it right Barcelona to bid £15,000,000 for Daniel Agger {Ed002's Note - It should not be a shock.}

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It will be interesting how this pans out. I personally think tjat Agger will want to go. He was interested in Monaco not so long ago. I would hope for closer to £20 million. We could start this season without any of the center backs from last season.

The Irish Rover {Ed001's Note - he was not interested in Monaco, he rejected the opportunity to talk to them actually.}

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08 Aug 2013 11:33:13
That seems a little surprising although it was clear that Agger wanted to hear what Monaco were putting on the table via his agent. Ed, this was a response from Ed02 not so long ago.

He might not have met them personally, but he was interested.

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07 Aug 2013 20:15:57
Barca offer £15m for Agger! Oh no

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07 Aug 2013 20:13:10
Some fans may not agree but I don't think we need anymore signings, maybe cover for left back, but we could get by with the players we already have, we have cover in defense, wings are good, and we have good attacking players, the team has looked great so far even without rat boy, so while it would be nice to get a few marquee signings if we don't I believe we will still do well.

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I agree George. Everyone assumes we need to sign someone to replace Suarez, but I am not sure its necessary.
It may just be rose tinted glasses, but things are looking good. I think there is an element of maintaining confidence and hopefully the fixtures at the start of the season will give the squad some impetus to kick on for the long run.
I don't see that a nobleman signing will be the difference between top 4 or not.

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Your right I don't agree.

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07 Aug 2013 20:08:41
This time last year if you asked me who would have liked to sign that could be realistic I would have said
Tello., mertens., huntelarr, Eriksen all who have new a lot about now the people were linked with her no nothing about or the ed's reckon it's unlikely so my friends who would you choose and why in a short list let's say

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07 Aug 2013 20:26:39
Eds.whld like four to go and four to come in outs.suerez, spearing, asshadi, coates, ins.costa, sisseko, erikson, papa wots the chances? Ynwa {Ed030's Note - Not very realistic,Which Sissokho do you mean,If you mean the Valencia lb his names Cissokho mate. }

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Ed,
what do you make of the Agger situation?
Personally reckon if we end up selling Agger we have lost the season before it began.
Not wanting to be negative but just see the situation.
WANTED TO SELL- Assaidi, Coates, Downing, Skrtel, Pacheco, Spearing, Flanagan. (all of whom are still here)

WANTED TO KEEP- Agger (very important), Suarez. (looking likely to leave) {Ed001's Note - I think Agger will stay, he loves the club, but Barca is such a big draw it is by no means certain.}

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IN AN IDEAL WORLD WE NEED 5 IN.
OUT- Assaidi, Downing, Suarez, Spearing, Skrtel, Coates, Flanagan.

IN- Diego Costa, Konoplyanka/Muriel, Papadopoulos, Aly Cissokho, DM (Yann M'vila).

would be happy with 4 as long as we go for a DM in Jan but the rest 4 are crucial.

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07 Aug 2013 20:15:33
Fellow on BT sports from Daily Mail saying he has a news on LS but can't say anything in the press until 10' oclock and Barca bid for Agger 15 mil. :(

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07 Aug 2013 20:06:28
Those who talk rubbish about the great Joe allen u got slap in your face today. he was just so great. he looked sharp . movement was quick. passing was dead accurate . controlled the mid. built up play from back . in second half our tempo was loose because gerrard is old nd can't run as much as he used to . first half we looked great. thnxx to great Joe Allen . great pace. great movement. 10/10 performance

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Alright Mister Allen self praise is no praise no need to insult our hero Gerrard now

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Think he has improved a lot pre season I put it down to his physic just seems like he has been doing upper body work in the gym reminds me of the time lucas put hard work into the gym pre season and went onto have his best year for us hopefully the same for big little joe

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He had a good game but your sing in nick is taking the piss

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07 Aug 2013 20:00:11
The future is bright.

The future is Jordan.

Henderson/Ibe/Rossiter

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But it's JordON Ibe ;-)

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07 Aug 2013 19:58:41
I just don't get it, why are we selling Assaidi? just watched him tonight and he was very good! I will say it again, I think it's a mistake to sell him, and at £3 million? makes no sense to me, if we kept him for another season and give him some playing time would that hurt us? I shake my head in disbelief, there are other players I would sell before him.

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Not to mention he plays in the LW position that we need so desperately need.

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Agree completely

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Besides the 2 layoff he done noting, and this has been his most productive game for Liverpool. the guy just does not have enough for any team in the big 4 leagues, maybe spain but I doubt it.

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07 Aug 2013 19:57:49
Couple of thoughts on the game and pre-season in general-

Heard a lot of talk about Aspas being a very shrewd buy (and I agree!), but for me Alberto looks much, much better than I expected. His passing is top notch, good vision, ability to play seemingly near anywhere on the pitch and look comfortable. For a young kid in a new team in a foreign country, I'm really impressed by him and have been throughout preseason.

Is it just me or does the combination of Allen and Henderson seem to work very well? I hadn't maybe of expected that, but I think because they are both such hard workers they just seem to really be everywhere on the pitch all the time.

Finally, anyone know anything about that Valerenga keeper? He seemed to be quite good- curious if he's highly rated or anything like that? Not that I'm saying to sign him or anything, just curious.

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I agree about young Alberto. Didn't get to watch the game today, but he impressed me - he has a touch of class about him. let's hope that touch of class can be converted into a big shed load of it! I know everyone says it about half of our team now, but he will be one to look out for in a season or two.

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No idea if it's the same guy as I haven't seen the match yet, but last time we played them in pre-season a few years back (3-3), I seem to remember their keeper was outstanding. Might of been a totally different person though!

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Vålerenga keeper is named Gudmund Taksdahl Kongshavn, hehe. His quite young (22 yrs). Just pushed Lars Hirscfeldt(34 yrs) out of the starting 11.
Lars has been one of the legues best goalies a number of years so its quite impressive.

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Thanks, OleNorway. Kongshavn looked very, very good, think he stopped 3-4 I thought were in for sure. Always hard to tell in a 90 minute friendly, so was curious about him. Didn't realize he was only 22- perhaps a good future ahead of him then!

They also had a young LB out in the 2nd half that looked very composed on and off the ball. I think one of the announcers said he was 17?

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07 Aug 2013 19:55:54
Barcelona have bid £15M for Agger.

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You serious haha keep dreaming 25 million rejected last season from city who do they think they are

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I am just praying that we don't sell Agger too.
Otherwise this season could turn out to be a massacre for us.

Firstly we still need to add a LB (Cissokho), a top CB (Papadopoulos) and a top attacker (Diego Costa) to the squad and are yet to make progress on those deals. Then we need to find a Suarez replacement and a DM to add if money remains, we just can't let so many key members of the squad leave in this window.

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Dont think we will do buisness this stage of the window unless they offered silly money say 25m think that's what we would ask for anyway pricing him out of the move as it is hope we keep him

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07 Aug 2013 19:52:08
Borini works like an ox, what determination to score- hungry for goals. Also impressed with Assaidi who got an assist after a fairly quiet second half.

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I think if he gets game time, Borini will score a lot of goals.
I like him.

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He did look lively in the first half tho! ha ha

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07 Aug 2013 19:51:52
Game today:
Thought Flanagan, Wisdom, Allen, Downing, Kelly, Assaidi all looked good today.
Aspas, sterling and Ibe were decent too, just needed to be abit more decisive in the final third.

Borini really needs to be more clinical if he wants to get game time in the starting 11 this season ahead of our other strikers.

Things got abit sloppy in the second half, but with 10 changes at half time u have to expect that.

Still link up play between coutinho and some of our players is very promising and hope to end the pre season with a win against celtic and take that into the first game of the season

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At what point did Borini have the opportunity to be "clinical"?
The chances he got came mostly from his own work. I really think he can be a revelation if he gets a chance.

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Wud you stop, he had plenty of shots today, and i'm talking about the pre season as a whole, as well as his 2 goals in 20 competitive games since he arrived.
Im not slating him, just saying for his own good if he wants game time and to move up the pecking order he is going to have to start scoring

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I do agree Jak. I think he is really brilliant off the ball, making and finding spaces for himself, but has been pretty unlucky. However, I find that it will get better since he is good at working out space to get chances.

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07 Aug 2013 19:51:06
If anyone really needs to go out on loan it´s Borini just not good enough yet hopefully in the future. I would rather use Assaidi then Borini

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He has a hunger determination and belief that u can`t teach. For that alone, I`m rooting for him. He needs a bit of luck but he works so hard. For those who criticize him, he`s very highly rated in Italy and is part of the squadra azzura.

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07 Aug 2013 19:46:14
PFA
Do my head in.
We should let saurez go.
We pay his wages wether he's injured, rubbish or misbehaving.
I was a member of the PFA and they were run and still run by amateurs.
Perhaps Gordon Taylor should speak up and say, if he's not happy he should put in a transfer request, shut up and get on with the job he's paid for, regardless of his performance.
I'm not sure the Big clubs are going to want someone who behaves like this, and we may need to sell before his value tumbles. , look at Tevez.
Seems to me that the Chelsea incident was deliberate.
Good riddance

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07 Aug 2013 19:41:43
Eds is it true that Atletico madrid are interested in Coutinho? {Ed002's Note - Not that I am aware.}

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07 Aug 2013 19:41:23
Pre-season observations

Ibe is better than Sterling - he's stronger, more direct and is always looking to beat his man
Jones is a more than capable back up to Mignolet
Allen is looking more and more like the player we thought we'd signed
Henderson is more than capable of playing central midfield and filling Gerrards boots when needed, good eye for a pass, good shot on him, workrate second to none
Our squad is better than we think, we have cover everywhere and probably just need a top drawer striker if Suarez leaves
Aspas, Alberto and Toure all look quality players who know how to play the game correctly for our system, these are all good good signings
Borini needs some luck and a few goals to get him going, excellent movement just needs a tap in or two
Overall i'm really happy with our squad, If we could get a decent left back and a quality frontman then we'd be pushing for top four in my opinion
YNWA JFT96

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Ill reserve Judgement on the top 4 but I agree whole heartedly when you say our squad is better than we think . Rodgers aim is to make the sum of the whole greater than the sum of the parts . we have very very talented players who get little respect because they had low price tags. I said Aspas would be good but I didn't know Alberto would be that impresive . a while ago someone suggested to compare his stats to Zaha and they are way more impressive . Jordan Henderson looks strong sharp and most importantly hungry kind of like a young Steve G no?. good post man I so enjoy posts like this

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07 Aug 2013 19:34:03
What's the score?

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07 Aug 2013 19:31:50
Hi Ed02, I'm interested in your opinion as to whether you anticipate changes soon to the way Transfer Requests work?

I may be a little naive here but, in the case of a player orchestrating a move away from a club, it doesn't seem logical that the club would, or should, have to pay a percentage to them. I'd be surprised if clubs didn't want this amended soon, unless I'm being a doughnut and misunderstanding the situation {Ed002's Note - No, I am not expecting changes.}

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07 Aug 2013 19:31:43
How true, from the Guardian

Suarez, we have been told for weeks, has been considering taking legal action to prove he does indeed have a £40 million (plus £1) exit clause. He confirmed last night it is an avenue he is exploring, prompting the inevitable question: What are you waiting for then?

For God's sake man, just get on with it. Seriously. This is exactly how the conversation between Suarez and the Anfield hierarchy is going every time this challenge is threatened.

"I'll take legal action you know?"

"Fine, go ahead."

"I mean it. I'm going to do it."

"We heard you. Call your lawyer. Be our guest. You’ll lose."

"This is your last warning. Sell me now or I'm going to see you in court."

"There is no exit clause, Luis. Do what you want."

"I'm going to count to ten now and if you haven't sold me, I'm taking legal action. One. (two week pause). Two. "

If it does end up at a Premier League tribunal (bet they'll hold a party at HQ if this ends up on their lap) Suarez will be faced with some questions he'd rather not answer

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I loved this

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Good post redwool!

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Cracking post -

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Redwool, got it in one, otherwise why would he bleating his every move to any paper that will listen, he would just take us to court if he had a leg to stand on!

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"ill scream and scream and scream until I am sick " good post man

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So funny,
We have this at analogy at work. going to kick some ass tomorrow.

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07 Aug 2013 19:31:40
I know we have conceded our first goal of pre season tonight but all in all out defence has been immense and our first choice keeper has still not conceded. The last time we had a pre season anywhere near as good as this we finished second and was our best year for a long time and looking back at pre season we havnt one this good in my memory over last time or so years and last three or four have been terrible
Plenty to be positive about

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Agree but my only concern is that it was yet another goal from a corner to the front post area. We conceeded a number last year to the same thing. I don't know if is a structural issue at corners or what, but it is a big gap and one that our first league opponents could take advantage of.

Andy K

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07 Aug 2013 19:12:13
yes finally a goal from a corner

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Yep - and some good team goals too.

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Yeah - and it was pure precision wasn't it :-)

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07 Aug 2013 19:08:29
Does anyone else think that Kelly is starting to look a lot like Paulo Maldini?

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Classic!
Think he liked the look of big Andy

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Lol - yep

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07 Aug 2013 19:55:03
looks like a hippy lol.

ACHILLES.

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It's all very well to look like Maldini, we need him to play like Maldini.

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Playing like Maldini aged 35 would do for me!

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07 Aug 2013 19:03:43
Now I know we don't have an Anzhi banter page. yet. So what's happening there Ed02, if you don't mind? The owners pulling out? Cheers.

The Irish Rover {Ed002's Note - The owners is not keen on continuing with his investment and is pressing the reset button.}

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The owners commodities contract to supply the government has been cancelled so his income has been decimated.

Poor Chris Samba.

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I heard that it might be a glimse of one advantage of being a self sufficiant club, rather than having a sugar daddy.

Just passing along what I heard, don't shoot the messenger.

(Myself, I believe it's a smoke screen.)

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Ed, can I ask to your knowledge, is the Anzhi owner pulling out so he can buy another European club? Thanks. {Ed002's Note - No Syd.}

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Think the owner's been playing too much FIFA and FM if he thinks resetting the club works in real life.

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From the Anzhi post, I remembered another player we can nick off them is Jucilei. Excellent DM and will be cheap considering Anzhi's position and as he is in the final year of his contract.

Also Ed with Anzhi's current position do you reckon the Yann M'Vila deal is off?
He could be another consideration for DM.

I really can't stress enough the need of a strong built Physical DM hope Rodgers sees it too. {Ed002's Note - Sorry but it seems like you are clutching at straws over these players.}

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I am now Chicken Little as someone took Disney!

Don't want people thinking I'm being a sneaky snake.

I did explain when I registered, but it was very late.

I thought it was strange that the Anzhi owner is pulling out after spending big on Samba. It's almost like he's recently come to the decision to pull the plug. I thought maybe he has realised that buying a Spurs or Liverpool would have more potential. It was worth asking the question I thought. Thanks Ed.

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07 Aug 2013 18:48:27
Hello Eds,
not LFC related but are Spurs really signing Etinne Capoue?
That is just greedy of them they already have a top DM in Sandro. While we desperately needed one and are not likely to pursue one.

I like BR a lot as a manager and love what he is trying to do but just one thing I would like him to rectify would be the serious lack of physical strength within the squad. A CB like Papa, a DM like Capoue and an attacker like Costa would really help us achieve that in all areas.

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Capoue, Sandro, Paulinho & Dembele. I guess Huddlestone, Livermore & Townsend will be out the door.

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I agree mate, I have just posted about Assaidi, I like the lad, and he could do a very good job for us, given the chance!

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07 Aug 2013 19:06:55
assaidi has skill and pace!! wow

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Great first touch and some deceiving step overs (i don't think they're actually that effective). His shooting is very weak though.

Still though for £2.5m I wouldn't mind if we kept him and gave him a chance he could be handy for late cameos and he'd be on half of Downing's wages and Downing would bring in a bigger transfer fee too.

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07 Aug 2013 19:03:33
Chris in Tamworth, sorry I didn't reply again on my post earlier, was working. i'm interested in your comment about taking the moral high ground. Do you genuinely think the Suarez saga is the right time to do so? I personally believe he has almost single handedly destroyed Liverpool being able to take the moral high ground for some time, and now he has openly spoken to the media he claimed villified him, don't you think its about time Liverpool got a little bit nasty? And by nasty, I don't mean throw him in the reserves or anything daft like that, but play serious hard ball? Make him realise he isn't the one in the driving seat, he is a big blank cheque and his whining isn't going to do anything? I've hated what he has done to LFC with his antics, and I've hated having to see LFC fans get mocked by others because he couldn't keep his mouth shut. I sincerely hope Liverpool flex their muscles, and openly show not one single player on this planet can try and screw us over, otherwise the repercussions for said player will be unfortunate. £50m otherwise go swivel.

Also, if he does go to Arsenal, I can envisage Agger reminding Luis what happened when Torres left.

JFT 96

JP

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I agree with every word mate
What I don't want to find out is that someone at the club DID tell him he could leave if a CL team came in.
If someone did do this then I think they should be out the door firstly for telling him that and then for not admitting it and keeping their word over it now.
I hope it's crap made up by the no good Suarez but if its not then I'd be very disappointed

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Sorry JP I know this isn't directed at me but are the club not doing exactly what you are suggesting already? I wouldn't call that getting nasty. We're willing to sell and have told clubs our price, which nobody has come near so we haven't sold him. I don't see any issue there and I wouldn't call that getting nasty I'd say we're just keeping him until we receive what we feel to be an acceptable offer.

Suarez is a DF, he doesn't seem to realise that the club haven't received what they deem to be an acceptable offer yet. If we had received a £50m bid and Suarez came out with his latest interview it would make sense to me then but at the moment he seems too stupid to realise that clubs aren't offering what Liverpool want and that's what is holding up his transfer not Liverpool. He wants us to bend over and accept £40m well that's not up to him so he can go scratch! Sorry plus £1 can't believe I nearly forgot the pound

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Chris, if someone promised him he could go, then the promise hasn't been broken yet.
I don't think anyone in their right mind thinks Suarez will still be at Liverpool next season, but you can't deny Liverpool the opportunity to fill the promise in a way that suits the club.

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Why does this seem so difficult for you to understand?
I've had enough of Suarez, he's become an embarrassment to our great club
My only point, and this is no way in defence of Suarez, is that I don't want anyone at our club to lie or be underhand. Tell it like it is, you can still get what you want that way

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07 Aug 2013 18:48:29
Luis Alberto looks to have the same eye for a pass as Coutinho! Ibe looks great he just needs to fine tune his decision making I think. That will come with a run of games. 3 very exciting youngsters breaking into the 1st team - Wisdom, Sterling, Ibe.

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I've been keeping a close eye on Alberto since he moved here, havta say (just my personal opinion) I don't really think he has looked that impressive.
I know he scored today, but he gives the ball away a lot due to his size and the fact that he tries passes that sumtimes aren't on.

i really don't see a position for him in our team either, too slow for the wings, and not better than coutinho/gerrard/henderson etc for the number 10 role.
Also this is just against pre season opposition, don't know how he will do against the big premiership teams

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Luis Alberto looks like a bargain buy to me, reminds me of Xavi Alonso when he first arrived.

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I disagree Jak, I think he has shown great promise. Has an eye for a pass, yes, sometimes tries the killer ball too often but some ireally neat work and a great finish.

Andy K

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07 Aug 2013 18:46:47
aspas just scored nice movement from him.

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I have been really impressed with him so far. I think people have not expected that much due to the relatively low fee.
Hope his keeps this up!

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07 Aug 2013 18:46:00
I must be the Lone Ranger not wanting us to sell Downing, been brilliant, so has Luis Alberto. Hope we also stick with Coates

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Yep you are right you are alone.

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Do not agree mate just don't see the sense in keeping Downing especially if we are selling Suarez. My simply logic is after selling LS we should easily have enough money to buy his replacement plus another quality attacker. So where does it keep Downing?
If we can make an improvement in an area why not move the payer to make way. If we have to move to the top we need to be ruthless with players as they seem to be with us.

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Downing versus younger players like Sterling and even Ibe - I'm sorry I see it as perfect sense to sell him. You keep the much younger lads who can improve more and they are on less wages. They are also good enough backup imo.

Then you get rid of the older gang who aren't undroppable and you replace them with much better starting players, in theory anyway!

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I'm with you Big A.

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07 Aug 2013 18:43:13
Eds fellow reds, watching the game aspas should have scored 4 by half time . Just a little concerning that he's not putting them away .and when Luis goes we will need another finisher, but a 1, 3 ratio really or will be like last season should of won the game but only managed the draw .

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07 Aug 2013 19:13:55
Suarez was 1 in 6 or worse. He only scored so many goals cause he took so many needless shots

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What was suarez ratio 1.6 or something would you relax how many has aspas scored since he came?

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You are kidding me Kingluis -you need to relax it's preseason! Very few players have a 100% chance to goal ratio - he's in the right places. We are creating chances, should have had a nailed on pen and his chip led to Alberto's goal

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To be fair suarez managed a roughly 1:6 ratio last season if I remember right. So he's not doing too bad

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Kingluis74, 1 for 3 would be a dramatic improvement over Suarez's woeful ability to finish.

Suarez had the 2nd most shots in all of Europe last year and only managed 30 goals. His non-penalty conversion rate was only a bit over 12%- 4 or 5 full points behind the likes of Van Persie, Cavani, and Ibramhimovic. Likewise, Suarez's on target percentage was very poor at ~38%. All of that said, Suarez was far better last season then the previous where he had an abysmal 8.6% conversion rate.

So, if Aspas can hit 3 or 4 on target every game and score 1, I'll be more than happy as that would put him well above even the likes of Messi (who by the way is absolutely amazing at 55% on target, 25% conversion over 5 seasons).

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Suarez rate was 16% so if you are comparing, which is silly, then Aspas' rate is 25%.

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Kingluis, does the name Daniel Sturridge ring a bell?

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07 Aug 2013 18:42:15
I just can't watch when we concede a corner we!

Hope Toure can sort it out at the back this season, Reina was never any good at decision making at corners so will be interesting how Mignolet does!

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07 aug 2013 18:38:26
we have conceded our first preseason goal!

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07 Aug 2013 18:38:01
Hi mates
I'm an Arsenal fan and I'm not here to twist the knife.
I have huge respect for Liverpool and the fans.
You're a great set of supporters and that is really evident on this page.
I wanna offer my opinion on the Suarez saga.
Most of us gooners don't really care about Suarez. We just want to see our club invest in a striker that can score 25-30 goals per season. If it's Suarez they want, then I'm okay with that. He is a proven goalscorer, excellent football player, but has very disgusting behaviour. I know that if we buy him from you, in a year or two he will start whinging for a move somewhere else.
BR doesn't want to let go off him, because it's a huge blow to his top 4 plans. And he is right, because even if he bought a new striker it doesn't mean he would settle and start banging goals. But there's no point in keeping a player against his will. We have been in that sort of situation many times and we survived, and so will you.
In my opinion it's better for Liverpool to sell him now and stop wasting time with him, and get an adequate replacement before it get's too late. I don't believe that Aspas is a replacement for Suarez. Also I must say that in Alberto you got a great little player who will no doubt be a superstar.
I have a question for you. What do you think, let's say if Suarez comes to Arsenal, if he scores against you will he celebrate?
I wish a great season to you and remember that no player is bigger than the club.

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Well in general Arsenal fans are a delight to talk to as they are not deluded unlike Man U fans. I am extremely happy with our signings but I feel a striker/left winger, centre back and a left back will be great.
IF Suarez joins you lot and he does score against us, I think he'll shamelessly celebrate. And you are right in saying he'll ask for transfer in 2 years time.
Cheers to you and have a great season ahead except for two matches, of course!

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Kowing suarez I think he'll shamelessly celebrate
and you are right 2 years max and he will do the same to your club if RM will come calling

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07 Aug 2013 22:05:19
GoonerMKD - fair post. I don't really give a rats arse where Suarez goes and really just want to get rid as fast as possible and for best value in the circumstances. I suspect Arsenal will make one final bid in line with Ed02's suggestion and 45m with a transfer request may get you there. I don't think there's much difference between that and say a 50m bid without a transfer request given the 5% player's fee. I'd be okay with that and we just need the club to move on. He's a trouble maker so you go into this with your eyes open. Best of luck for the upcoming season and hope we pip you to 4th spot

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07 Aug 2013 18:33:26
Great goal by Luis Alberto! Gets better and better every game for me! Have to say, the variety of skills and technique in this team is what makes it so intriguing. Delighted for Alberto, fantastic finish!

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07 Aug 2013 18:32:12
What a goal by Alberto! Classy! Ibe and him are ruling the roost!

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07 Aug 2013 18:28:47
Have to say it's only about 30 minutes into the game but I have been really impressed with Joe Allen. Looks sharp and very comfortable on the ball. Hopefully he can keep this up and take it into the season ahead. Here's hoping!

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07 Aug 2013 18:23:52
Liverpool are playing well against Vålerenga without starting with any of their starting 11. maybe except Aspas. Ibe is great but the Norwegian keeper has been amazing so far!

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I think Allen will start first game of the season.
But the lads look good ibe could easily get a good few games this season.

Ynwa

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07 Aug 2013 18:23:08
Blurdy commentators, still pronouncing Ibe as ebay.
There's definitely no 'buy it now' with him.

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Speaking of eBay, maybe that's what we should do with Suarez. Stick him on there, a timed auction would bring an end to all this garbage and bring Madrid out from the shadows.

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07 Aug 2013 18:20:42
Ive given him grief in the past but. Joe Allen. looking quality. And I've got to say really liking how Hendo and Wisdom have become real LFC men now
YNWA JFT96

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07 Aug 2013 18:20:19
Ibe looking very good already, think he has a better future than sterling, pace and power, bit more experience going to be a special player

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They are both young and talented, and both play for us; and certainly Sterling is more ready for now than Ibe in my opinion. The experience of being thrown in at the deep end last season will be invaluable.

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Don't get me wrong I think sterling is a fantastic player with the ability to, become world class, just for me I prefer ibe, just seems to have that extra bit of strength and pace to pass players. Both amazing young players

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07 Aug 2013 18:15:51
Afternoon Guys and girls, Reds and Eds.

Just want to point out a few positives for the coming season

-We have Sturridge and Coutinho from the start of the season
-Sturridge is fit
-Kelly is fit
-We replaced JC with Toure almost imediately
-Mignolet looks up for the challenge
-We've conceded no goals in pre season
-Ibe is playing like a new signing
-Sterling looks to have grown up physically
-We're playing with fluidity, pace and purpose (following on from the latter part of last season)

There's a lot to look forward to, be positive guys :)

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Completely agree, good Sir. Well summarised

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Great post I have to agree 100% remeber last september we are already a much better squad and first 11. I think we have a great shot at top four and winning a cup. Also no issues travelling all over the place. Happy days I think.

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07 Aug 2013 18:15:16
"When he left, he didn’t just leave. He went to every single Liverpool worker. He went to the physio, the medical workers, the laundry workers, etc. He thanked them. Every single individual. I am not ashamed to say I cried when he left, so did the team. He was a beautiful person. Helped charities, helped families. Very humble. It’s a shame nobody saw him do this. He is special, and in Liverpool, he will always be with us, even of he is not wearing the colours."
These are Gerrard's words after Torres left. I'm not saying that he's coming back, I'm not at all saying that he should come back but at least he had enough decency to thank everybody and he never talked sh*t about us.
Sure, I was extremely angry like most of you when he left and cheered like hell when my favourite LFC player Daniel Agger gave him that elbow. But Torres shook hands with each LFC player before the match. Also he gave a transfer request.
Suarez has acted disgracefully. We gave him support in the Evra incident, which led to the sack of our club's greatest player, Kenny Dalglish. He h*ckin bit a player! That too twice. Once in Holland and then at Anfield. That's the worst thing ever happened at our stadium if you ask me.
He needs to go. I don't care if he goes to Arsenal, Chelsea or even Utd as long as he leaves.
Let me clarify that I don't have a soft spot for Torres too.
Your thoughts welcome.

Cheers

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Good post, Torres at least did most of his talking after he left however he sulked on the pitch and gave less than he should have for half a season which for me .With the ultimate disrespect to the club.With Torres it was more like your missus leaving, it hurt like hell but you got another looker in quick .

With Suarez it more like waiting to have gaul stones removed.

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I never heard that about Torres before. I hated it when he left, especially to go to Chelsea but at least he did it in the proper manner. Suarez is a disgrace. I would sell him for the extra £1 Arsenal offered, let alone the £40m that went along with it.

Good on Fernando Torres for what he did, Suarez can run and jump. An utter disgrace.

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I didn't know some of that. Cheers.

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I half agree as I seem to remember him putting the knife in after he left. I do however think he has a lot more class than suarez but not sure that's saying much. For me i'd take Alonso as a guide world class not from Liverpool moved on but always shows total respect.

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I don't know what to add mate. He does seem like a class act, especially compared to the player who became his replacement (effectively).

I don't know how much effect the 'decency' of individuals can have on a dressing room (and therefore on the togetherness of a team) but I imagine it would be quite significant.

I wonder if we will ever know if the Suarez character traits that we have seen - recently, during the Evra and Ivanovic incidents, during the world cup and whilst he was at Ajaz - are ones that he also exhibits in the dressing room? By all accounts, I thought he was the model team-mate, but would be great to find out once Gerrard or Carra update their next biographies!

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07 Aug 2013 18:11:14
Evening Eds, If ls stated that the club where willing to let him go last season after one more season why oh why did he extend his contract last season, just baffles me a bit eds. {Ed002's Note - RTP.}

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07 Aug 2013 18:05:05
Michael Owen on BTsport footy. whatever. he just said if Ibe got on the end of that then he'd have got his first Liverpool goal. Oh. the same Ibe that scored the other week?.
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He also said Liverpool is to big for downing, who played for england

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07 Aug 2013 17:56:46
Tottenham after Capoue if they get him they'll have two of the best DM's in the league and a bargain at under 10m. What a side AVB is building they may very well challenge for the title IMO

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Yeah you knew Capoue yesterday.

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Yep. Since 2011 actually when we were linked to Moussa Sissoko.

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07 Aug 2013 17:54:12
Eds any truth in real madrid entering the race to sign suarez today? Really hope so! Thanks {Ed002's Note - There has been no bid from RM today.}

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07 Aug 2013 17:43:14
Ed's, More of a question if i'm honest, I was wondering, is there an actual date where a club has to register a player to make him elegible to play in the champions league this year? if so is it before the end of the pl transfere deadline? Thanks {Ed002's Note - It is not before the windows closes.}

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Also, to clarify, a few peeps were confused by a deadline coming up soon (I think 9th Aug), but that's just to register players for the qualifying round. There's then another date by which you have to register players for the group stages.

Couldn't find the exact date for 2013-14, but for 2012-13, it was 3rd September 2012 so expect it to be similar this season.

FYI, they can substitute 3 players for 3 new players by 1st Feb (based on 2012-13 guidelines) prior to the round of 16 as long as they have not already played in the competition that season.

This is not likely at all, but as Suarez will not be playing in any European competitions for us this season, he would be eligible for any team were he to stay with us and join in Jan 14.

Hope that helps!

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07 Aug 2013 17:38:08
eds is it possible that maybe with all this going on arsenal could move on and have made this situation there advantage as in for example theyv unsettled the player he ends up not getting a move. we have an unhappy player so therefore its one of there rivals probably a lot more vulnerable? and then pbviously his price would be low in january because we would want rid? I know the second bit unlikely as maybe not wait till january but is this situation possible or do u think arsenal will go all out for him because if thet bid 50 m on last day thed have got there man and us left without replacement therefore makes us lighter? cz really if arsenal give us 50 tommorow it gives us plenty time to reinvest money make the team stronger? {Ed002's Note - Arsenal has not unsettled Suarez. I do however expect another, and final, bid from Arsenal.}

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07 Aug 2013 17:32:32
ok lads just got this of a mate whos got home from an holiday in spain had a word with a real madrid fan swear on this he says real madrid will get suarez for £55 million they just biding their time in the bid process they going tio tie up bale first then bid for suarez they want bale on one side with ronaldo on the other and 2 strikers up front the other being benzema hope this goes down well with you reds

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It wouldn't surprise me if Real came in for him, but I would be astonished if they offered £55M for him. They could probably get him for £10M less easily at this point.

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Real wil be playin a 4-1-2-3 formation
benzema upfront ronaldo on the left
di maria (for the time being) on the right
2of the 3 (isco/ozil/modric) in the middle and alonso/irrara playing from deep

i don't really think real wil come in for suarez

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I think its either Bale or Suarez for Madrid, not both and its for the top right position.

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07 Aug 2013 17:18:37
There's a world cup at the end of this season.
Would love us to leave Suarez rot in the reserves for the season and miss out.
Call me childish or whatever I don't care, no disrespect, but I'm entitled to my opinion.
Just skip over the rest of this rant if you disagree.

I have had it up to my non existent hairline with him.
I don't fault Arsenal for trying to sign him.
Suarez is the one lacking class, we all know it.
See Evra incident, Ivanovic incident and biting incident in Holland for examples.

Also when he scored against South Korea in the last world cup he nearly took the heads off the photographers behind the goal when he jumped on their heads.

He's a selfish, careless, muppet.
I pity his poor wife quite frankly.

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I would have hoped we were better than that! I truly believe in karma! What goes around comes around as they say! If we did that to Suarez Imagine the image it would set to future players! We've been dragged through the mud to much in the last 5 years! Let him go to arsenal if he wants just get him out of the club ASAP! The quicker the less damage he can cause!
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Honestly, I think Suarez could do nothing but sit on a beach from now until the World Cup and, baring some kind of injury, he'd still make their World Cup squad.

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07 Aug 2013 17:18:31
Hi Eds, I simply cannot believe that we would sell Suarez to our rival Arsenal, as realistically we are competing with them (and Spurs) for 4th place in the EPL. If RM or other European club doesn't make an offer and as Suarez is banned until October what do you think are the chances of him sitting it out until the January transfer window (I know all will probably be subject to lawyers deciding the contract clause and John W Henry's stance)? By the January window an European club might throw their hat into the ring and we will have a clearer picture of where we are with our two nearest rivals. Thanks. {Ed002's Note - It won't happen.}

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I can honestly see him being sold to Madrid for 35 million plus a player later in the window

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07 Aug 2013 17:17:15
Hi Eds - I am registered - I have been logging in
and yet my last few (admittedly inane) posts
have not appeared. Have I offended someone? {Ed002's Note - I have no idea, but if they were inane, what do you expect.}

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Indeed. they were not really inane posts, I was merely trying to avoid
a caustic reply from an Ed - I failed

puzzled {Ed001's Note - nice try though.}

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07 Aug 2013 17:12:17
Dan Agger a rare breed a lot of players should take a leaf from his book.

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Definately deserves the vice captaincy

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Until an offer comes in for him and he says he wants to leave.

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07 Aug 2013 17:08:49
Back after a bit of a sabbatical due to being fed up of the persons posting on here, fair play eds for sorting it out! Happy that Hendo is captain for tonight, always backed him even when some of youse have had a go at me for it haha. Expecting big things from him in the future, there is no plans to sell him are there eds? Cheers. {Ed002's Note - Not that I am aware.}

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Welcome back Alan. Ah ha

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07 Aug 2013 17:00:03
Just seen Suarez new attempt to force a move, apparently LFC have broken his contract by not allowing him to move, now I'm pretty sure his contract would have had in it a behaviour section regarding his attitude and behaviour not bringing himself or LFC into a bad press or something similar, now I think he may find it is he who has broken his contract, add to the fact although he has made it quite clear his intentions to leave but surely if he wants to whine and whine like my 3 year old throwing a paddy then why doesn't he just put in a transfer request and shut up until a teams makes a serious offer. {Ed002's Note - All of this conjecture about the content of his contract is really not going anywhere. It will be best for everyone once they cut the umbilical cord (or maybe Suarez could bite through it) and go their separate ways.}

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07 Aug 2013 17:03:38
What do people think of Ljajic for €12m? Be rude not to {Ed030's Note - He has bad attitude problems which where so bad his manager tried to punch him,Very talented player though. }

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07 Aug 2013 16:58:48
EDs/Fans

Alderwield. Is he not good enough? Under £7m for what I think is a top CB, who is versatile, young and experience of winning. Isn't this what we're looking for?

Also when BR talked up Mignolet he mentioned how good and upcoming Belguim are.

What is the reason we're no in for him? Is it not selling Coates yet or Not got any money or is he just rubbish? {Ed002's Note - Try the search function please.}

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I think it depends on outgoings. We seem to be keeping an eye on him.

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07 Aug 2013 16:57:42
I would like to know if Arsenal are likely to be fined like Liverpool were over the Ziege transfer, if Suarez goes there. Looks like the same sort of situation. Ideas anyone? {Ed002's Note - No. You really need to get away from all of this contracts related stuff.}

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07 Aug 2013 16:47:28
Just watch how arsenal fans wil start to use the same old lines about suarez like "misunderstood", "victimised", etc etc if they manage to get him.
i don't remember too many arsenal fans defending him when he was banned for 8 games for evra incident, I don't remember too many arsenal fans saying that biting someone is not really that bad, I don't remember to many arsenal fans who said anything other than suarez was pretty despicable person whose antics, cheating and nasty play made him one of the most loathed characters in the game, yet now people are falling over themselves to make excuses for him .
At L'pool all the brainwashing the blind loyalty call it what you want is fast wearing off.
YNWA

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Thats football for you mate, fans defend their own players, whether its right or wrong!

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Well saying as we did it for so long how can you be upset at arsenal fans doing it?

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07 Aug 2013 16:43:42
eds I m really quite concerned about the squad we have at the moment

lets say suarez is definitely off

what we are left with is a much weaker squad and a much weaker attack.we ll have lost that fear factor that suarz brings

say sturridge got another injury

it leaves us super light up front

I think we need to final third matchwinners in asap and no excuses about we couldn't get the right players in

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Tom, sort your head out lad. You've already had a go at another lad because of his optimism for the season, but you are negative.

Stop moaning you tart.

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I don't see the optimism Davey

I se us with a weaker squad than last season

right now I d call optimism delusional

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However, get rid of suarez and sign two matchwinners a centre back, cover for lucas and a left back and we could well be in with a shout for fourth

there that's my optimism. we will do well if we get in a wide forward, a second striker to replace luis, a top cb, dm cover and lb to challenge Enrique

optimism
mignolet quality signing
toure quality signing
aspas good cheap option
alberto we ll see

we finished last season 12 points off fourth. how the hell do you think we can get closer than that with a weaker squad?

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Tom - I agree we are much weaker than last season. we all use the excuse it takes a season to settle in - rubbish. We only give players a season then we get shot of them. We do still have fans who believe we will win the league with the rubbish we buy - we cannot compete with the big boys anymore and in fact we have no funds to buy players. It's not the fact that the players do not want to come to us we have to sell a player to buy a player, then someone else steps in. where is the proposed bid for Costa - we are waiting to sell Suarez before going in with serious offer.
Please remind me who is doing all the talk now that Suarez is not for sale. - not wenger, not arsenal - it's us, we want 45 million and then he is gone. We will end up worse off than last season and if there is anyone who believes we are better than that then get your head sorted.

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A weaker squad in your opinion lad, but I'm pretty confident the manager would disagree.

Remember, Suarez hasn't gone yet and he obviously doesn't rate Reina.

You see, It's all about opinions, yet opinions are so premature at this time when the f*****g transfer window hasn't even finished!

I don't expect miracles, in fact, I still think we will struggle to finish 4th, yet I am optimistic that both the league position and squad will be better than last season as my fundamental faith lies with the managers judgment.

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07 Aug 2013 16:43:01
Eds. I'm hearing that Ljajic has a release clause of 12,000,000 Euro's to any foreign clubs. Any chance of this you think? We can offload Suarez and take him, Costa and Papa and still have enough for a bag of chips!

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07 Aug 2013 16:40:24
seriously if we keep suarez against his will and he refuses to perform can t we just fine him all his wages every week

he d soon start playing

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Haha if only things worked like that

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07 Aug 2013 15:56:07
Yawn yawn yawn

Suarez you can leave when we are happy with a "fair price" for you, hand a transfer request in and it may get done sooner.

Problem may be the only club who want you may not pay for your racist animal ass and you may end up eating humble pie and playing for us again this season!

On a plus side we don't care our team is bonding and coming together at exactly the right time, we have the best start to a season with only to play in the 1st 10 games (they will not be the same this season either) which are all winnable. When your scabby suspension is up it will be Louis who never heard of him.

Roll on Stoke, we are back!! Time to believe boys time to believe

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07 Aug 2013 15:55:32
even if br said to suarez he would let him go if we didn't get cl he may not have said he can go for 40m plus 1£ to a main rival and no other offers on the table but its early days let's hope it gets sorted soon and he is sent as far from anfield as possible.

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07 Aug 2013 15:23:32
reading a lot about zenit looking for skrtel on a permenent transfer and even man city interested in him to provide cover.
could u give us any info that u have? {Ed002's Note - See earlier answers please.}

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07 Aug 2013 16:33:37
Hi, does anyone know if the game is on LFC website today? I've been looking but cannot find any details. Many thanks

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Btsport showing it and streamed on lfctv

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07 Aug 2013 16:33:34
hi eds, I've seen over the last few months that we have been linked to certain players the ones for the CB position, now everton are going in for one of them, I think we need to pull our finger out and buy the players we are after instead of watching them go to our rivals, I like it that we got toure but I think we need another CB who is a very good one because we need a good defence to get the 4th place we are after, Manchester United never played that well last season but they won the prem because their defence was the difference, now we have a good goalie, we have agger and toure but then it stops, last season it seemed that we started playing when we went a goal down, we really are 1 or 2 players from being a top 4 side, also as well as lucas plays I think he is too light weight and we need a big stocky def-mid, because couthino will cut side wiide open and aspas has been scoring, I think we will get 4th, and suarez will be sick

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Mickey b you are deluded the squad we have minus suarez will be lucky to even get about everton

a few injuries to studge lucas and gerrard we d be lucky to be 9th

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United won the league last season because they had RVP, their defence was pretty bad for their standards. They actually conceded the same amount as us (43).
The difference was their home form and only losing 2 away games all season, as well as City dropping off the pace towards the end.
I agree that we need competition for Lucas but not somebody to replace him, he makes our system work and if he is injured again then we are in trouble.
Hoping for a good season though, as long as we improve again.

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07 Aug 2013 16:30:01
Hi eds - when a club 'registers an interest' in a player - how does it work? Is it simply a case of the club secretary sending a letter saying 'please keep us informed', or is there something more to it? {Ed030's Note - Everything is done through agents mate,It just means a club has let the players agent know they are interested in the player. }

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07 aug 2013 15:42:19
hello eds,
forgive my ignorance in this matter
but what does a formal transfer request do exactly?
if a player is under legal binnding contract . does such request simply forces the club to sell! it seems odd to me.
and i prefer to keep that loud mouth suarez on the bench than sell to nosey arsene .
thanx {Ed002's Note - See earlier answers please.}

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07 Aug 2013 15:21:05
This is probably way too simplistic but would an option be to build in a £10m sell on clause into LS's transfer?

That way we can let him go for £40m knowing that in 12-18 months when LS demands another transfer we get the balance of the £50m that, by consensus, appears to be an acceptable fee.

If Arsenal want him so badly is that such a bad idea?

Frenchy.

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07 Aug 2013 15:20:37
Hi Eds. I come on this site everyday and post the odd bit of banter etc., if I didn't I would not be able to function. It's even better now, despite fans getting upset with Suarez which is totally understandable! My question is: If Suarez hands in a transfer request and the Arses come back with a similar offer, are LFC forced to accept or can they still hold out for a higher bid? Obviously I hope he is sold to a foreign club. YNWA {Ed001's Note - we don't have to accept, but it would make it more palatable.}

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07 Aug 2013 15:20:20
If Suarez wants to leave so dessperately, why don't he make a transfer request so we can all move on. Why do we always have to w8 until the last minute just get rid and start workin on some new lads. can't wait until the 17:e august its the sundays will now bring nothin but joy once again.

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If you haven't being following, LS would get at least 5% of the transfer fee.

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07 Aug 2013 15:15:36
I'm being mistaken, personally I think as soon as a player gives a desire to leave then they go, nothing less then 100% commitment for me, I was just hazarding a guess to BR's possible thoughts, we obviously will be weaker minus LS but I don't want an unhappy player disrupting the squad, just pointing out that if the "clubs" valuation is not met, then we may still get some value on the pitch from LS eventually due to his natural desire to play, my debate was, does the club think along these lines, even a little bit, hence the willingness to let this run

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07 Aug 2013 15:08:15
Appreciate that there may be reluctance to post this but just to try and draw the line on verbal agreements etc. I suspect that LFC are being advised by the firm I used to work for, and who also advised them during the buy-out from H&G/RBS (bank side). I strongly suspect that any commercial/contractual clauses re the Suarez saga would have been run by them. I also suspect that the contract would contain what’s called an “Entire Agreement” clause which is almost always included in any commercial contract of value. In brief, this standard clause is designed to prevent a party from being able to rely on any pre-contractual statements and representations. In other words, if it’s not in the agreement then any verbal representations are rendered absolutely redundant (a generalization but true for the most part). Assuming inclusion of this clause (again, very likely imo), then what counts is the wording/construction of the infamous 40m permission to talk clause. Which LFC seem extremely confident over, hence their robust positioning. My only other thought is that other clever, spectacle wearing lawyers will do their utmost to create whatever doubt they can, which is normally then used to lever on potential negotiation. But still, LFC seem confident of their stance and the above tells me why that may be the case. I’d expect this to drag on for a while yet. Br, Matt

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07 Aug 2013 15:07:56
The only people that can promise Suarez he can leave is the Owners. Not Brendan Rodgers. The transfer committe can recommend that he is sold but the owners must give the go ahead.

So if newspaper asks Rodgers if he promised. Liverpool press machine should already have the answer.

Rodgers: "yes, I promised but as I am not an owner of LFC my recommendation does not need to be acted on by the Owners."

Story dead, Suarez position stopped and nobody can do anything as only owners can authorise it.

Then sell Ponda baba (take a look at the star wars character) for as much as we can get from Arsenal.

I say this as our chances of getting into the Champions league this year are difficult but not impossible . Therefore when Suarez agitates to leave Arsenal next summer because they don't match his ambition we will be quids in.

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I do find it funny that after agreeing via legal contract to be at the club for 3 more years and now wanting to leave it is now the player accusing the club of going back on an agreement .

Sell him move on .

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07 Aug 2013 14:42:23
Really interesting peice in the Guardian Re Suarez and how fans shouldn't expect any loyalty. Insoitenof the ambiguity surrounding the release clause, Arsenals bid has put them in pole position with respect to this transfer. I hope Rodgers can hold firm. His next press conference is crucial. Also I hope Henry, Ayre and all other FSG directors help when needed by reaffirming Liverpools position. Eds what is Rodgers best ploy In front of the media now, does he remain silent on the issue, or respond to suarezs allegations? Thanks {Ed001's Note - I really don't think Rodgers can win either way, the media will spin it to suit themselves whichever he does.}

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07 Aug 2013 12:58:01
Hello Eds,
a Question to Ed001
1) When Suarez leaves and we all know he will, just hoping we get atleast 45M pounds for him, how many attackers do you see us bringing IN?
I would be disappointed if we only brought in Diego Costa. Just want us to bring in 2 quality attackers- My choice Muriel and Diego Costa.

2) Do you expect Downing to leave?
IMO he should accept an offer if there is any club interested in him and move on if he wants regular footy to be selected for England WC. {Ed001's Note - 1) I would expect a left sided attacker and a central one, if we can get them.
2) No, not this summer, though we would sell him for the right offer, he is keen to stay. Having said that, with the World Cup next summer, he might change his mind if an offer guarantees him first team football.}

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07 Aug 2013 15:59:48
Bale = "Injured"
Suarez = "Injured"
Rooney = "Injured"
Heskey = "Injured"

Coincidence? I think not!

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07 Aug 2013 19:09:34
I read somewhere. It was a statement from Gordon Taylor, now it could be false.He just said they(PFA)were asked to mediate between the two sides.I just don't see how much the PFA can do but you no more than me Ed02.
BarryinLouth {Ed002's Note - They cannot mediate over a contract. That is not their role.}

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07 Aug 2013 15:58:29
Ed's is it true that the PFA has been asked to step in?Im sure at this stage we all want him GONE but BR is right we need to get as much as we can for him and not cave in at the 1st offer that comes in for him.Even though he is the worst person to ever wear our famous jersey.
BarryinLouth. {Ed002's Note - Step in to do what? I am confused why people think the PFA can do anything in respect of arbitration of a contract - is this coming from somewhere like Twitter?}

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07 Aug 2013 19:04:31
There was a quote somewhere that the PFA was 'supporting the player'. Think that got conflated with Premier League mediation / arbitration in twitter. {Ed002's Note - What a shock.}

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07 Aug 2013 15:57:21
No new news from Diego Costa, just another rubbish rumour eds? Also how come luis gustavo is moving for £8mil to wolfsburg, thought we wanted a challenge for Lucas, would be a coup for the price, thanks in advance. {Ed002's Note - There is nothing to say on Costa. Gustavo was certainly never going to be an option for Liverpool.}

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07 Aug 2013 15:54:03
Ed,

Now that Suarez has pretty much pulled down his transfer price even further, why shouldn't we just bench him and convey that players can't just keep turning up and declaring that they want to leave and LFC will oblige.

Man City made an example out of Tevez.

Why can't other clubs follow suit and do the same?

LFC should have told have Suarez that he risks staying at Liverpool for the next three years if he pulls up a stunt like yesterday.

In Bale's case at least Real are prepared to pay a significant amount, then why are Suarez and his representatives think that Suarez can go to a rival for 40 mill. {Ed002's Note - Liverpool are not in a position to threaten to keep a player for three years who does not want to be at the club. The club do not need any more publicity related to this matter. Whatever happens with Bale is nothing whatsoever to do with Suarez.}

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Like it or not, Suarez represents 40 million pounds (plus a bit). Yeah, we could sit him on the bench for the next year, but wouldn't you rather lance the boil and get the bad headlines / miserable player out of the club and use the money to buy Sturridge and Coutinho again. Twice. We're not so rich that we can afford to p**s away 40M, even if we'd like to. Think about it - he contributed to Kenny getting sacked. That meant a new manager and a different squad profile. How much has that cost us?

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Surely Liverpool have the right to stand firm for market value especial as the player signed a contract last year, let him go fine, but my houses value is determined by similar properties value, it doesn't matter what the area of sale is, no one is obliged to sell anything below market value, LFC are right everyone/thing has its value, current sakes prove someone like LS is worth 55M if that's met bye bye, if not honour the contract "you" signed {Ed002's Note - It is determined by what clubs would be willing to pay for Suarez, not Bale or anyone else.}

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07 Aug 2013 22:39:01
I disagree with Ed02 on Bale having nothing to do with Suarez. I believe its the difference between Suarez being offered on loan for a fee to real madrid or Sold entirely to them. I do not believe that they can afford to buy both players and if they do get bale, they can take the loan with option to buy next summer. If they miss out on bale they can then Buy Suarez {Ed002's Note - Liverpool are not planning on loaning out Suarez.}

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07 Aug 2013 15:32:25
After the Torres mess, and the overhaul in the player acquisition department, which brought in 4 players as BR said squad players baring the man between the sticks, should we maybe give the minions behind the scenes the benefit of the doubt, and remember LS's strike rate last season was due to the style the team played and the fact it was aimed at getting him on the ball in the box, there are strikers out there who given the same priority can do the same albeit less spectacularly

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Suarez created a lot of goals from nothing, as well as assists. Never seen anyone nutmeg like he can.

Also the free kicks, wow.

Please list players we could bring in for £40m+£1 who can do what he can and is willing to go to a club which is making noice they don't like paying big wages and are not even in the europa league? Even one or two, don't worry about a list.

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You know what, Eddie? There are so many ifs and buts here generally. Some posters saying we don't have the quality, others saying we do. Some (me included) liking what we have seen in pre-season, others saying it doesn't count.

I don't know how good our players can be, a lot of them are new into the league or new into the team, so we need to see how they gel.

I'd love for us to invest the Suarez cash wisely, because it would give me confidence that FSG continue to invest in the team even despite the shenanigans with KK and Comoli 18 months ago.

But, at the end of the day, I just want the season to start, and then we can judge on actual results. Who knows, the players we have bought/nurtured may turn into the £20-£30m marquee signings that everyone wanted, or they may not.

Just want to get there, for these 10 days to pass quickly, so that we can see what the effect of the close season has been on the field.

I remain excited!

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Agreed. Look at Sturridge's Strike rake for example.
He does not have to put their head done and take the entire opposition on. We don't need that anymore as our squad is stronger and there are more chances created. All you need is a good finisher who gets himself into the box and the ball will come to his feet.

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Here here! I remember crying when Terry McDermott left, and being near suicidle when Rush went to Juventus, but I'm still here as are LFC let's focus on what we currently are and what we currently have and focus on moving forward that all anyone/ club can do, we are not the play thing of a billionaire and that would be worse then any player leaving, let's focus on what we stand for as a club and play the long game

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07 Aug 2013 15:11:47
Any chance of us signing Griezmann eds? {Ed019's Note - I can't see it}

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07 Aug 2013 14:59:12
The one's who're whining about LFC being a laughing stock are fools.
If its ManUtd, Arsenal or Spurs(without Bale) Fans. Those teams won't make top 4 this year.
LFC, Chelsea, Man City, Swansea.
Its hard to see how we're going to concede 1 goal this season. Can't seem to picture it.
There's a chance at the title considering the changes at the other clubs. Start supporting and top whining. FSG has done brilliantly so far(especially since January). Champions have a sense of arrogance about them. We need that bit of arrogance. These whining fans are being whimps and you can't win nothing as a whimp.
Suck it up. Support the Team. This is the begining of a dynasty. Don't miss it.

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Lol yes of corse it is mate, u only finished over 20 points off in 7th last season (your worst for years) how can u now not win the league? Its posts like this that's a laughing stock :-)

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Hey Pirate, love the sentiment and optimism. Disagree with the realism of your top 4, but remain convinced we'll be in it.

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Spurs have made great signings and do you not think they could get 2-3 top class players for the Bale cash, if sold?

Arsenal and Man U will always be around the top 4, what if Arsenal do get Luis?

Yes we've played 5 won 5 conceded none in preseason. Against who? Thailand? Preston? If you really cannot picture Carroll heading a goal when West Ham play us, or Man Citys forward line not scoring think harder.

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What most don't realise is that LFC out of all those teams have continuity. Same Manager and the same squad that played the 2nd half of the season. They know the style of play and know each other. The other teams have many changes that could take at least half the season to take effect.
Yes we were 20 points off the pace but if you double our points taken from January onwards last season. we would be right up there! Realistic I am mate.

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07 Aug 2013 14:49:49
On the Suarez thing I'm afraid. The lad wants to go and is saying the club won't let him. Everyone and his brother knows that the club WlLL let him
go but the price has to be right.
What else is there to say?

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''We accept that ludicrous amount of money your willing to pay mr wenger for that self centered, anger issued rat boy we call Suarez?''
Instead of thinking, if we beg enough he will love us again for a year?
Just a thought.

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07 Aug 2013 14:29:43
I am working in Germany at the minute. Anyone know where I can stream the match tonight please. Or is it on German tele. Thanks

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Try firstrowsports on the internet, they normally stream most games. {Ed019's Note - I use vipbox.tv}

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07 Aug 2013 14:27:05
Looks like Agger won't go as long as Rodgers wants him here; fantastic news.

Suarez on the other hand, he can go, just sooner rather than later please as we need to spend that money wisely and not have another January 2011 situation again.

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Hope so, love Agger.

But didn't BR say the same for Reina and even Suarez?

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07 Aug 2013 14:16:09
Has it occurred to anybody that Suarez may be 'mistaken' (or plain lying) about the supposed 'verbal agreement'? Just because he's said it doesn't necessarily mean it's true!

Just a thought like!

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Yeh everyone its not Suarez's fault!
Blinkin media as always out to get lfc!

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07 Aug 2013 14:06:32
its starting to seem like groundhog day again, this whole saga is making a laughing stock out of lfc, the owners have learned nothing since the last time, infact they are starting to look like stereo-typical brash americans that shoot from the hip and ask questions later and then there's BR who can't keep his mouth closed because he likes the sound of his own voice to much, and to top it all arsenal are sitting smugly knowing that up until now they are the ones showing a bit of class

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07 Aug 2013 14:35:09
Sorry, 40mil + £1 is not showing class. Not showing class at all. The only person in this whole mess who will come out smelling of roses is his agent, cause his contribution to all this has been completely overshadowed by the media hype.

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I think if you actually took the time to do some research about FSG & they way the run their sports teams, you will find that they are not "stereo-typical brash americans". I have had dealings with people in their organization due to my working relationship with NASCAR & they have all come across as hardworking business men who are generally interested in making "their team" succeed.

Do they understand football? Not as well as I would like.

Have endorsement deals increased since they took over? Yes they have.

Are they trying to make LFC self sustainable? Yes they are.

I personally have no time for LS anymore nor do I believe a word that comes out of his mouth (and am still shocked when I see alleged LFC fans take his side). But I will support LFC, like I have for the past 30 years, to do what is right for the club.

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You don't know what you're talking about mate.
Money gives a club power.
Champions league qualification gives a club power.
Now Liverpool Have neither the HUGE wallet nor the Champions league qualification.
So does that mean we should just lay down and let other clubs and players have their way with us? Or are we going to fight. FSG and BR are FIGHTING way above our weight. This is looking more like a Rocky movie, and I'm loving our attitude

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Class? Are you serious!

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What are you talking about your totally clueless Liverpool are playing it quite cool they want him out as much as he wants out but only for the right money your totally clueless blaming everyone just because you can't make sense

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Obviously a Goon ( er ) - what have we done wrong, we have a player we want to keep, who signed a new deal last year, and who obviously didn't have a clause written in to that contract that he could go for a CL side or a release price.
I am assuming that LFC are bullet proof in their statement that there is no such condition in the contract - I will admit if the contract does say he can go - then I agree LFC will look bad - but I like to think they have professional people doing the contracts.

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American red bang on my man.

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Well in lads. Back the owners, back the manager and back the team. Good to see some real support. Absolute faith in everything that is being done at the club.

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How is Wenger showing class when he says he doesn't want to talk about Suarez but let's his players say whatever they want in the press?
Mind you, I don't blame him or BR - we all want what's best for our clubs. But all of this wrangling / argument / hype makes me wonder - there's got to be a better way of sorting this, surely?

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07 Aug 2013 14:03:10
Hi eds,

Was just reading a post further down the page and you said Suarez was offered to other Pl teams do you know who they are? Also you you think madrid have ended their interest in him.

Thanks {Ed002's Note - Approaches were made to Chelsea and Manchester City.}

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Do you think they were interested? {Ed002's Note - Manchester City have previously been interested.}

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07 Aug 2013 13:56:09
LFC and management are actually starting to become a better business.
The one's who joke speak of things that their minds are too small to grasp. This is business. what's on paper matters and not what is said. Making a sale is not about the actual value of the product but rather what another is willing to pay. What gets said is only to manipulate your competition into putting what you want on paper.
There's no intention to sell to arsenal and that whole "class" jibe at Arsenal was just a small poke at their ego to get them to bid higher to show LFC and the arsenal fans a point. Suarez's initial media outbursts and his suspensions etc had lowered the value what others would pay, so that's why this is being dragged on, and statements made that he's not for sale and is part of the squad etc so to raise that valuation. There's clearly spindoctors behind BR's words on the LS topic. LFC have every intention of selling him but want him to go to Madrid who's currently distracted by Bale, and who can't afford both right now. LFC won't sell to another premierleague team unless there's a crazy money bid 50+. What can happen is that Madrid sign Bale, and take LS on loan for a season at a price of perhaps 5-10mil with option to buy next summer 30-50mil. LFC is waiting on the Bale saga to conclude as it would determine whether its a sale or loan. LFC also want LS to hand in a transfer request to waive that 5% of the transfer fee(thanks ed001) as FSG needs to set an example that you can't behave this way and get a fat bonus.
Don't be slating BR. Its not him alone. There's a team of Spindoctors behind his press releases. US style politics is being played.
If a player has the legal right to to be loyal, have no appreciation of the fans, and chase the money. Why then can the club, not lie to the players and tell them whatever it takes to get what they want. CLUB FIRST. That should be the ONLY Principle.

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Correction: If a player has the legal right NOT to be loyal

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That is not an improvement on last season. When Suarez is sold we need to buy a match winner.

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Sorry don't get this we have match winners, the team has improved great summer signings and happy the way we are going not all will work but have to admit the management have got it right so far IMO. would like to see a new CB, LW and DMF but would take what we have got. well done the eds for putting the site together and remaining calm at this time of year

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07 Aug 2013 13:49:07
So what if someone told LS he would be sold if we didn't get CL? Is it written into his contract? The same contract which was EXTENDED last year giving him more money and keeping him at the club for longer? Didn't Suarez promise KK he would shake Evra's hand? I can't believe some people are saying 'well if we said we'd let Luis go then we should honour that. ' - B*llocks. This guy has no honour, he's showing it now, so why should we do ANYTHING to accommodate him or what he wants? He has been banned for how many games? If LS wants Liverpool to honour his wishes, maybe he should have honoured Liverpool's wishes for him not to drag the name through the dirt and act like a little brat.

Player power has got well out of hand. Shut the hell up and respect the club who have given you the chance to be as good as you are now. As the old saying goes, don't bite the hand that feeds you.

JFT 96

JP

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Agree. Its business. Through his suspensions was he giving his salary back? Did he go and get someone as good as him to play for us during all the games he was out? SO the fans must stop being so sensitive and oohs and aahs and Steve Nicol seems to have become a Manc.

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Well said JP - he's a clown

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JP
I'm afraid I see things slightly differently
I don't care how badly someone behaves, that should never make it ok for a club like Liverpool to behave in the same manner

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In what manner? You mean supporting him unconditionally throughout all his ridiculous incidents since almost the minute he joined? You mean offering him more money and better contracts to keep him here? Trying their upmost to guard him from the British media and publicly declaring that they will stick by him through thick and thin?

No, I suppose LFC are out of order because Suarez has kicked his toys out the pram, wants to leave and Liverpool are playing hard ball. GOOD. Liverpool is a family, and Suarez was loved by Liverpool. Suarez has ruined it, now Liverpool the business have shown up, and now Suarez is an asset, and should be treated as such. Let him moan and groan all he wants, Liverpool are doing what is best for the club. I cannot fathom how people are disagreeing with the way LFC are going about this, it's just mind boggling. Maybe Luis will taste a bit of his own medicine now Liverpool are biting back and doing what is best for the club?

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JP
Calm down
I'm simply telling you that I don't care what anybody does to me, I keep my dignity, keep control, take the moral high ground and look down on them with the contempt they deserve.
I don't care who lies, a liar is a liar.
I don't care who cheats, a cheat is a cheat
Two wrongs NEVER make a right

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Suarez needs to be gotten rid of ASAP. I don't really care for how much.

As for LFC, if Suarez is right and the club said he could go to a CL club for an offer above 40m, but did not put it in writing, then they do not come out of this smelling like roses either.

Not the way I want LFC to operate.

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07 Aug 2013 13:45:25
What do you expect Rodgers to say? That Suarez is definately leaving, thus lowering his value drastically. I think supporting Suarez for all this years have turned some of us fans into lobotomized vegetables.

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07 Aug 2013 13:44:43
Hi eds I hope its true about Agger staying, I would love him to be given the vice captain roll, eds and reds do you see this happening or who would be your choice.
thanks

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After reading the comments by Rogers I think he will certainly be vice captain

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07 Aug 2013 13:33:38
I don't see why everyone is panicking about Suarez leaving and us not getting into the champions league. If you look at our team in 2005 when we won it. We had maybe 3 great players Gerard, hypia, carragher. But all the rest had good ability and a desire to win. Our team now has a lot more great players with Gerard still here agger, Lucas, coutinho, toure is still a great player, Sturridge is quality and I think I speak on behalf of a lot of fans in saying aspas has looked a decent signing. But not to forget that all these players are hungry to do well. We only have the league cup, fa cup and premier league to play in and we have a bigger squad than last year which will mean much more competition for places. So I say let Suarez go to whoever comes closest to our valuation and I will thank him for the amazing performances last season but in future don't she*p on your doorstep. The money we will get for him will help us add more quality to the players I've already mentioned and yet again more healthy competition. People may say I'm optimistic and I say they are right, there's 5 teams with new managers add to that the 3 new teams and we are in our second year with BR and we are getting better everyone can see it including mourinho so we should all be optimistic about this season.
Sorry for the long post but we have a lot to be happy about, just hope I'm right.

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Er Alonso and Luis Garcia were pretty great that season, in fact Alonso was godlike. In fact were is Hammans mention he practically changed the final. I'd sooner have that midfield than ours now anyday. I think you over estimate our team now.

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Alonso was a good player as was Garcia and hamman and yes hamman did change the final but alsonso went on to and a great player luis Garcia was inconsistent but great at times and hamman was kicking on a bit. I thought about that when I wrote the post but stick by what I said we should be optimistic although I agree with you that prob was a better midfield but this is now not then and we have to make do with what we've got and I think we've got a good chance.

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07 Aug 2013 14:48:27
CC, I think your under-esimating our squad.

JT

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07 Aug 2013 13:11:31
Hello Eds and fellow readers, I like most are now resigned to LS leaving and sooner the better, but this got me thinking about if he had stayed he could have become a legend (as with Torres) at LFC, which brings me onto my point, what in fans eyes do the status legend mean and how do you aquire it? do you have to be a local lad, long serving or just loyal? In my years of watching LFC there are a few what I would call a LFC legend, these being Dalglish, Rush, Barnes, Fowler, Carragher and Gerrard, I am sure there are a few others I could mention as well. Your thoughts please.

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Alonso perhaps. guy was immense player and a great guy!

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Alonso is a legend also. It is all about serving the club with your best self and leaving the right way instead of forcing an exit and calling your club smaller than others.

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Quality, loyalty and giving 100% every match.

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Igor Biscan was the man!

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You cannot list Liverpool legends without putting Sami hyppia in there

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The Croatian Zidane I think you'll find ;)

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Vladimír Šmicer for me - changed the game in 2005 when he came on for injured Kewel!

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Not quite a legend, but I did love Dirk Kuyt. Maybe not world class, but you knew you'd never get less than 100% commitment and effort every game. Would rather that than some primadonna who might be great but only on the days when he could be bothered.

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I will always have a soft spot for Titi Camara.

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07 Aug 2013 13:10:36
Right I come here everyday eager to see if we have any serious transfer updates but I guess like me everyone is now fed up with the Mr Suarez rumours.
So I ask this from our club. simply put out we want £50-60-70 or whatever the amount is for the ungrateful player.
Then inform him. if an offer comes in for 'X Million' then great we'll sell you. otherwise SHUT UP and honour another year on the long term contract you signed next season.
The guy really is taking liberties now for ALL the support shown by the club and us Fans!
I'm quite frankly sick to death of it by now. apologies for rant fellow REDS but we need to get it sorted one way or another becoz I'm fearful the longer this drags on, the less chance we will have to replace him with the quality we need to push for the Champions League place.
Own personal opinion. buy attacking midfielder. (erikssen). and play behind Sturridge with Aspas/Sterling/Ibe and Coutinho either side.

YNWA!

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07 Aug 2013 13:00:35
2 things really we need to look for
1 can the club stay calm and get wot they want
2 here's the big chance for BR to show he can handle manager of Liverpool football club, not coach ie deal with big players trying player power over the club

Must say I think he doing a good job and the owners as well
Ynwa

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07 Aug 2013 13:00:30
Not strictly a rumour but I hope Suarez's latest whines make Liverpool even more determined to not sell him to Arsenal. I really hope Real come in for him soon.
After all the fans and the club have done for him, he's really put the dagger in now.

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I hope Zenit or Anzi come in with a bid for him and he can go to russia if he really wants champions league.

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Won't be Anzhi - looks like they're now in total meltdown .

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07 Aug 2013 12:53:50
There was rumours our scouts were at the Norwich Real Sociedad friendly last night, can any eds confirm this and any knowledge of what player/players we may have been looking at? Think Vela would definitely be a great addition or maybe Greizmann although he was an unused sub {Ed030's Note - No idea,Martinez or Parado I would like it to be or Griezman. }

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I think the club will gladly let him go for what they value him at, but suarez is trying his hardest to bring his value dwn but all it is doing is delaying his move.

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I have posted a few times that Liverpool had scouts watching Real Sociedad a few times last year.

Rumour was vela, Greizmann, iñigo Martinez.

Think Vela would be great as a widen an in a front three just like Diego Costa.

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07 Aug 2013 12:52:36
Suarez is obviously a piece of work however if someone at the club BR or Ian Ayre promised him he could leave if a CL team came in this season then whoever told him that should be out the door with him.
Add to that the fact that all this joy about us getting our business done early was a little premature considering we've got an awful lot of business that still needs doing and no sign of it.
I'm getting very worried {Ed002's Note - Try not to worry Chris. Everything will be fine.}

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I believe LFC will let him leave for a CL club when the valuation they feel he is worth is met.

The argument seems purely to be about the valuation and his contract and this mysterious £40M clause.

So Suarez argument that they won't let him go is rubbish they won't let him go until the club valuation is met - then he will leave.

Very interesting stuff just a bit upsetting for a lot of LFC fans to see more poor contract management and turmoil off the field.

Hope BR keeps focussed and this whole saga doesn't affect the rest of the playing staff we have a big big season coming up!

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If only you could give me something Ed, a little morsel of a transfer that would get me salivating
Then I'm sure I wouldn't worry so much {Ed002's Note - Does Cissokho shake your tree Chris?}

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Honestly? I'd rather you'd said Costa or even better Muriel {Ed002's Note - Honestly Chris.}

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07 aug 2013 12:44:19
i don't belieeeeeeeeve it!

what will that uruguayan toe rag say next? file his teeth down, he's a cad!

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07 Aug 2013 12:39:53
So Luis gave everything he had last year. well, it's fair to say he definitely sunk his teeth into the role! (ahem)

Here's to a fun few weeks! {Ed002's Note - To be fair to Suarez the player, his on-field commitment and quality was there all season.}

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Yeah but ed can you forgive him for what he did against Chelsea? Wasn't that on the field you can say it was his commitment that forced him to do that but that's such a sad excuse. If he was really committed on the field why would he screw it up like that we still had more games to play and he got himself banned. {Ed002's Note - I was talking about him as a footballer as I said. It is best not to try and twist the words of others.}

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07 Aug 2013 12:38:08
At first I was sad that Suarez was going then I was fine with it as long as it was abroad now I couldn't give two hoots if we sold to arsenal! Suarez is a fool and it's clear to see I want him to go so we don't have to talk about him all season and him be a distraction, I don't think any of us will be sad to see him go? Like Ed02 says "he's just a transient employee of the club, players come and go" this is exactly right.

what I don't agree with is fans, pundits, whoever saying if he goes we've virtually have no chance of a top four finish? Who knows what will happen we play better without him anyway we've done this before falling into the "one man team" trap it was the same with Torres and now it's Suarez, sell him to the highest bidder, reinvest back into the team and have real good go next season.

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07 Aug 2013 13:05:39
Hi All,

Personally, I'd like to see Suarez at Arsenal. In reality, he'll only be available to them for maybe 75% of season at best, as will no doubt pick up other suspensions for being a fine outstanding chap. To pin big goal hopes on a player that potentially will go missing for a quarter of the season definately works for me as major damage to a top 4 rival. The world will continue to spin without Luis and we as LFC fans will still support the club when all our hopes are resting on Iago Aspas slotting one past Petr Chequebook on the final day! Love the site and thank you eds.

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I want him to go to arsenal purely so agger can have his way with him just as he did against chelsea.

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07 Aug 2013 12:37:59
Hope everyone is ok .
My point is Suarez is going on about a verbal agreement but he seems to forget the agreement ( contract ) he signed at the end of last season . I can't believe players think they have so much power that a verbal agreement is more powerful than a written contract . Joke .
YNWA
Jamesee {Ed002's Note - A verbal agreement, if proven, is legally binding. I really think everyone needs to stop posting about contracts, clauses, verbal agreements etc..}

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Suarez signed contract last year BECAUSE he was given a verbal promise. So it would kinda be unfair to say "shut up about verbal stuff and honour written stuff".

However, who gave him that promise, probably did the right thing. As without him signing long term contract, he would either go last year for cheaper, either stay and be a free agent now. So the only negative outcome is that whoever gave him the promise, now have to keep it. However the money is higher so probably it was a wise decision.

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We really should've put a simpleton clause in the contract

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Think the eds are right on this - fact is we'll probably never know exactly what the contract says or what was said behind the scenes. Same as discussions about money. Few of us are lawyers or accountants and it's somewhere where a little knowledge is dangerous. (I'm as guilty as anyone at this). Really, I'm getting to the point where I don't care.
All I want is him gone and no longer associated with our club, 40+M in the bank and news of great new players coming in who are hungry for success and proud to wear the red shirt.

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07 Aug 2013 12:31:04
For all the good work Liverpool have put in during the pre-season, signings and sales, it could, unfortunately, unravel very quickly with this Suarez situation getting dirty. I have this gut feeling that Mr Suarez has been whispering sweet nothings into Brendan Rodgers and FSG's ears and then leaking a completely different story to the press. WHY? Anybodies guess really. But safe to say, Suarez is looking more foolish and petulant by the day.

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07 Aug 2013 12:30:33
Ed do feel that life without the champions league is now beginning to hurt Liverpool? Clearly we cannot compete for the cream of the crop but even those players of champions league quality who will help get us there are holding back from joining Liverpool. In my opinion we have to look to build from within and hope that two/three of our youngsters make the grade. Thoughts? {Ed002's Note - Financially it makes it difficult.}

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07 Aug 2013 12:27:44
Just putting it out there, a lot has been said about LS, it's clear he wants out. But also a lot has been said about how he lives to play football, matches training etc. whilst I am in no doubt if the clubs valuation is met, I would guess in excess of 55m then he will go, replacements you would hope have been explored for some time and feelers sent out. But! Do you think BR is thinking if that amount is not met and Liverpool retain him albeit an unhappy player wanting out, that his unrelenting desire to kick the little leather thing around will eventually override his desire to leave and he will just get on with it for one more season, he has 6 games to sulk.? {Ed002's Note - He wants to leave. It is really not that tough to understand.}

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Really? Fans still clutching at straws? We should not even contemplate anything but his sale now.
It was fun for awhile Luis, but don't let the shankly gates hit you in the arse on the way out.

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It was not meant as a statement, more a case of, if the club has a value, then say at the start when he wanted out, ok, its 55m (or whatever) you have until x to meet it or do one, why drag it out, personally he goes as soon as he admits he wants out, we are a big enough organisation to say fine, it will cost x and it needs to be done by y

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07 Aug 2013 12:24:09
I see we little ingrate has been at it AGAIN.
Now he's blabbering to the very same media he's moaned about for being "against" him.

I'm just waiting for Waro, Ozone and the like to tell us how it is "not Luis' fault, just the hateful, agenda-driven media twisting his words" and how this is all "FSG' fault", "pushing Luis out".

Are you ever going to ever wake up and see Suarez for the disgraceful, lying, selfish, hypocritical person that he IS?

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07 Aug 2013 12:21:51
Looks like Luis, has gone too far this time, just read a quote from John Henry saying we not selling Suarez. "We buy stuff, not sell it." looks like Suarez is "stuff" now. I know he will probably get his move, but be assured it WILL be on our terms and won't be to Arsenal. Mr Henry didn't get where he is today being messed around by a no mark like Suarez, I also don't think a club like LFC, or FSG would leave themselves open contractual wise like Suarez is saying. Finally Suarez said "Rodgers lied to me", and so Suarez didn't lie when he said his move was to get away from the media.
I always wondered why Suarez actually bit Ivanovic, wasn't because he was getting pulled or punched, beginning to think it might have been to cause more s**t to ease his move from us.

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I love the John Henry quote

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What stuff have they bought this summer?

Renia wages + loan Fee = Toure
Shelvey = Alberto
Carroll = Aspas + Mignolet

No confirmed bids for HM or Costa, just press linking us with bids.

What have they spent?

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Signing on fees, agents fees, vat, salaries, general running costs, debt just to mention a few things FSG are paying, pretty sure the club still running at a loss.
And the bid for Micky was confirmed just we weren't willing to pay the extra.

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07 Aug 2013 12:21:21
Appreciate Benteke has just signed a new contract but surely this would have some sort of clause ( hate using that word today!! ) in allowing him to move if certain bid is made.

Interest shown before new contract was signed, is this a viable option as feel would team up well with Sturridge and others up top.

Suarez out for £40 Benteke in for £25 with cash left to complete the defence.

Would be delighted with that.

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07 Aug 2013 11:59:27
I have sat here over the last few months listening to Ed02 call Suarez down to us Liverpool fans, and took a lot of abuse for it and tbh I thought maybe you should not be that blunt about lfc fans hero then you would not so much get stick, I never sent abuse or any thing of the sort to Ed02 but I did think he/she bought some of it to there selfs, I for one would like to say I'm very sorry to Ed02 for thinking that because they because we are blinded by people because of are loyalty, Ed02 see though that and new behind the image lfc painted of him to sell him to us more, help and guided him most prob even after its made us look daft, silly and hated even more, again sorry Ed02 for doubting you! I will trust your judgement even more now {Ed002's Note - I appreciate it but there is no need to apologise. I understand that sometimes folks would rather not see the whole picture for players they are fans of.}

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Yes there is credit to you! Put football aside I respect people for being honest and not being to greedy in life, and general respect to other people, you took a lot of stick not off me but I question you to my self, I hope there s a few others that on here that should man up and say there piece to you!
Enjoy your day just remember deep breaths, groundhog day for u eds (Suarez questions)
Ynwa

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Fans should not get carried away with their loyalty to players. They should have learnt their lesson with Torres. You need to assess the character of the players. When suarez handled the ball on the goal line(instinctively) at the world cup. We should know what kind of player we were getting. Yes great he won a lot of games for us(which was good for him too lots of bonuses in his pocket for that too), but be blind to the character.

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Its why fans would make rubbish owners. heart not head.

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07 Aug 2013 11:54:39
Ex002 are Anzhi looking to move all there big earning players on then? are Willian and Eto'o likely to leave? {Ed002's Note - Both are likely to leave Anzhi.}

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07 Aug 2013 11:49:39
Hii Eds.,
Nw tat Suarez is leaving, can u name any one striker Liverpool r desperate to sign to replace him? {Ed002's Note - Liverpool have shown interest in Diego Costa.}

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Eds - is it the case that some clubs don't actually formally bid unless / until they know it's going to be accepted? {Ed002's Note - Most clubs won't bid if they know there is no chance of it being accepted.}

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07 Aug 2013 12:07:53
Suarez in December:

"'All I can say is that my head is here now and for many years to come. My dream and desire is to play in the Champions League and achieve big things with Liverpool, because they're the club I wanted to play for, and now that I'm here, I want to stay for a long time.'

"We hope that over time, we can take Liverpool back to where they belong'.

"He may need some patience for that. 'Just like I waited to play in the Champions League with Ajax and I had that chance, now I hope the same thing happens with Liverpool."

Sad. £50m and get rid

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07 Aug 2013 12:06:26
Morning/afternoon all
Not entirely Suarez related and I know we are all fed up of this dragging on. Rogers we know isn't completely media savvy but I assume he is telling us what he is being told to tell us to play the game, Suarez is telling us what he is being told to tell by his agent, the wheels are in motion to give him the move he wants but at this point Liverpool still hold the upper hand (only just) now this is is how I see it moving on there are players to go and some to come in. LIVERPOOL will make their move and agree their deals when everything is in place. The noises coming from people itk all seem to point to deals being completed over the weekend and next week. So ignore him and his tiring rants and show a little faith in the club, we ARE slowly beginning to move in the right direction and money from his move is only going to help, as in all honesty except for his goals he's brought nothing but trouble the last 18 months. in my opinion any way.

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07 Aug 2013 12:06:20
I think it may be time to bite the bullet and let Suarez go and re-invest the money in the starting 11 not the squad.

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07 Aug 2013 11:43:58
I've had enough of Suarez, no class no respect, doesn't want to play for us again.fine him, don't play him again as we would just be getting him fit for another team, let him rot untill end of window, whoever takes him can't play him for a few months anyway, I don't care if he goes to arsenal he won't last long there, and they aren't going to win the league, he can tarnish their reputation instead of trying to bring us down.fair dues to Rodgers and FSG for not taking his rubbish, we will have the last laugh Louis!

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07 Aug 2013 11:41:43
What happened to the footballers who actually wanted to achieve Champions League football with THEIR club. The Gerrards and Carraghers are a dying breed. This mercenary attitude that they want to leave for CL football is purely money, money.
I think it's about time players are forced to honour their contracts until an outrageous offer deems it worthwhile selling.
Well done LFC owners for digging their heels in with Suarez; the same player who 'loved' Liverpool until recently!
In short I think we need to return to the old values of bringing through local lads who will give their all for the team and reduce the reliance on foreign mercenaries who are just gold diggers.

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07 Aug 2013 11:38:07
Suarez picture removed from the player profile
in the official page!

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07 Aug 2013 11:35:06
Eds I sent a post around 9am this morning, asking advice on how its works if/when Suarez hands in a TR, as I really don't know and would like to know.

Its not been posted? Why? {Ed002's Note - Sorry, I have no idea why it was not posted. Without seeing your question I can only speculate at an answer. But here goes. The most significant aspect related a transfer request is that the player is waiving his right to the selling club paying him 5% of the transfer fee on completion of the deal. Aside from that, in most if not all other respects it would work as any other transfer. Right now his agent is doing the leg work of getting interest from clubs across Europe (including the UK). If that were not the case, the club might well approach other clubs to say the player is available and ask if they would be interested at £x. Everything else remains the same.}

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07 Aug 2013 22:43:02
Ed02, I found the post after all, sure it wasnt showing earlier.

Anyway, cheers pal that does answer the main part of my question.

One other part was if a TR is handed and accepted, the set price is public say £55m. If only Arsenals £40m+£1 is on the table could you see that being accepted rather than have him, clearly not interest in LFC?

Thanks for your time {Ed002's Note - He will be sold at the best deal the club can get. It would make sense to me for this to happen as soon as possible now.}

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07 Aug 2013 11:57:18
I think Suarez could of handled this a lot better. If he had never gone with the media story, and kept on flirting with the prospect of Madrid before hearing of Arsenal's interest well then he may have got some fans to agree with his motives.

I mean if Liverpool did ask him for one more season to try and qualify for the CL, well then they probably should honour in without all this fuss. If he agreed to one more year this time, and we fail to qualify again, well then where does it stop?
He should have said from the start, that he's now 26, he's worked hard to become the player that he is (which is one of the best), so he deserves to be playing in the CL with all the other best players around.
Then maybe fans would have been abit more forgiving with regards the Arsenal talk, and we could all move on and get replacements.

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07 Aug 2013 11:52:45
The injury list for the Wednesday game:

Suarez. is he actually injured? Probably not.
Skrtel. is he actually injured? With Napoli and Zenit interested possibly not.
Agger. is he actually injured? Probably, as he normally is. Although there is possible interest from Barca, I can't see LFC willing to sell.
Johnson. is he actually injured? I hope not and I hope the club is trying to cash in.

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There are a lot of suggestions today that Suarez has told Liverpool that he will not play in any more games (all sounds familiar?). I said last week that we should just take Arsenal's £40 million, avoid the circus and move on to building the best team we can. So now we effectively have had the circus and either have to take the money on offer or the alternative is to call his bluff and have the clause decided upon by arbitration (and have the distraction continuing). The latter option may not be resolved by the end of the window and we end up stuck with him when he will be of no use and a value dropping like a stone. I will gladly drive him to London myself so we can be shut of him sooner rather than later!

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07 Aug 2013 11:27:19
Hi All,
As stated in an earlier post, in my opinion, Suarez is a walking hypocrite. He wants to leave UK bcause of the press, then he wants to move to Arsenal for CL Football. Make your mind up Suarez! Seems you want to leave LFC as you are bitter at being 'internally' punished for bringing those fangs out again. What a disgrace to the most giving and loyal club and fanbase in world Football (IMO). Any comments welcome although appreciate its been discussed a zillion times before!

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07 Aug 2013 11:26:34
I am very excited now that it is more and more likely that LS is on his way!

We as a club have always stuck together and respected the moral obligations that wearing, living and breathing the red shirt brings.

For someone who has disrespected the club contributing to a legend losing his job and commits outrageous actions to worm his way out is unbelievable. If I was to repeat his actions I would find myself in jail its madness!

For me get rid move on the quality in youth we have throughout all levels is very exciting we have loads to look forward to and with a few additions to the first team we can pose a threat on those top 4 spots.

keep the faith be load and proud let's use the famous 12th man to give the boys the extra boost.

YNWA

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07 Aug 2013 11:21:53
Hi fellow reds,

longtime fan but never been to a match due to being too skint and living in Glasgow, however due to a new much better paid job in Newcastle I was hoping someone could advise me on the best way to get tickets to anfield and possibly away tickets for the match in newcastle?

cheers

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Try joining supporter clubs in Newcastle/Glasgow. I live in Ireland and generally get away twice a year with my one, perhaps it will be more frequent in Newcastle. You could also become a member on the club website but it varies in cost, I think you have to get full membership to have priority access to tickets.

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07 Aug 2013 11:19:58
Think before everyone starts about Suarez we need to calm down, he's just one player and one player who we in my opinion can cope without quite easily. We all saw when he wasn't in the side last year how well we played, Sturridge in particular was an animal. Don't get me wrong the guy gets goals but we were a much more solid outfit without him, played more as a team and were better to watch. Bottom line is guys and girls is that we've got a very good manager who's got us playing the right kind of football and is bringing in the sort of players that we've needed for years. If Suarez goes and I think it looks inevitable now then the only thing we need to be concerned about is how much we get and how we invest it, in my opinion if we get anywhere near 40 plus million Rodgers will get some VERY good players in for that. My only concern is that he's looking very likely to go to Arsenal, as I said he gets goals and would if he stays in this country come back top haunt us. In saying all of this though it does appear as though the club are taking a hard line stance with this so it wouldn't surprise me if he actually ended up staying with us which would make me laugh my backside off, have to say though, what's he and his agent on? How on earth can anyone expect a club to be held to a 'conversation'? I mean seriously what a pair of persons. Interesting days ahead guys.

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Don't talk big words buddy. Without Suarez we are far from even 5th position, not 4th.
Let us see if we are better off without him and then say big words eh? {Ed030's Note - We will be,He wasted so many chances,He's a very good individual but he just wastes to many team created chances. }

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Doncorleone,
Did u not watch the games towards the end of the season without Suarez? We were a lot better as a team.
Can't wait for him to go to arsenal, yes he will score goals but he will stop others having the opportunity and as every one knows he wastes a lot more than converts. Been saying this for a while now. Let them have him we are a better team without.
Glad BR and FSG are playing hard ball to get the best price.

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The team evolves around him when he plays and he rarely brings other players into play and will mostly try to do everything himself.

We'll score a lot more team goals with him gone. Look at the Newcastle game

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Are you people for real? You are pointing just 4 games towards the end of the season when most teams' fate was decided. and then you go pointing out the Newcastle game, which was one off with one of the worst teams of the second part?
Let us see if we have consistency without Suarez. Do you see us having that 20+ goals we are going to miss from Suarez? Do you see a match winning player in our current squad?(Don't mention Coutinho too much hope for the kid, its no good).
With the current squad and NO Suarez I bet my house we won't get even 5th position. IF and only IF we replace him with a decent player then we can talk again.

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07 Aug 2013 11:16:20
oh how I would love anzi r zenith or shachter Donetsk to offer 50 mill. there u go luis . off u go . u got yer wish . lots of right wing people there u would fit in there u sewer rat . ed if a Russian club offered 50mil would arsenal have to math that?
5 gold stars {Ed001's Note - they wouldn't have to match it, they could just stop bidding.}

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07 Aug 2013 11:14:07
Given it both looks like they're going to leave in the same traitorous way I was wondering what other fans thought about rating Torres and Suarez against one another. For me losing Torres felt like the end of the world now losing Suarez feels nowhere near as bad. I think Torres was the better of the two players just wondering what others think. They will never compare to Robbie nor Rush either way. YNWA

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Yes I think Torres had the chance of being one of the most loved Liverpool players of all time! When he left it was devastating! Suarez on the other hand - good riddance to bad rubbish!

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07 Aug 2013 12:29:35
Two different style of players but Torres was defo the better player in my eyes, more of a threat

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I think the big difference here is that we have closure and a solid team. With Torres it was all last minute and no real replacement. With Suarez, it's been dragging on for so long and Suarez is doing his best to be hated. And of course we have a team now that are more than capable of winning.

To be honest in Gerrard's testimonial, Suarez actually started to annoy me. Kept on losing the ball and gesticulating. I used to love him for that but how two months of press manipulation has changed that!

Oh and I'm not saying I don't want us to spend any of the £50m (hopefully) we get though!

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07 Aug 2013 11:07:21
Completely off the Suarez theme, can any of the ed's tell me when work is actually start on the Anfield refurb. It looks great on paper, but I live 200 yards away and want to see it finished as the revenue it will bring in will be immense. {Ed001's Note - no date has been set yet, that I am aware of anyway. That can only happen when a contractor has been engaged and they will then give a date they can begin work. I would expect it to be as soon as the last home game is finished this season, personally, at the earliest.}

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07 Aug 2013 11:06:55
Liverpool have no intention of letting Suarez "rot in the reserves". It is not fanancially healthy for the club.

Everything that has been said by Rodgers and Gerrard about how much we need Suarez in order to challenge etc has only been said for effect. It is an excellent sales technique which let's the potential buyer know they have to make a great offer to "prise" the player away from the club.

Liverpool have every intention of selling and have done all along.

Mark my words, Luis Suarez will never play for this great club ever again.

Red Rum

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100% Agree with you mate. The American spindoctors behind the scenes have worded their media statements carefully to have the best effect on Arsenal/Suarez and Real Madrid. This is US Politics being played.

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07 Aug 2013 10:55:42
What I don't get is that yeah Downing has not been good enough for us and neither was Carrol but not once did they do what LS has done after everything all the backing he got from fans, the club etc. and he has the nerve to say we broke our promise! Well didn't he brake that promise to Kenny saying he would shake Evra's hand hasn't he now broken the promise by saying in April 'I will stay even if Liverpool are not in the Champions League'.

The man has no morals, the sooner he is gone the better, I'm seriously thinking that the bite was done thinking they will sell me know but no we backed him so he has thought of every excuse to go, well go you are not needed.

Back to Downing again we shouldn't say hopefully we sell him, he is rubbish instead it hasn't worked out for him and maybe its time to leave at the end of it he hasn't made us look stupid like the RAT has!

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07 Aug 2013 10:55:17
If Suarez and Co. were to turn to the PFA for arbitration in the interpretation of the clause, would that not put the player under question (Suarez) under a transfer freeze until the case has gone through the relevant processes with the PFA?

So would going to the PFA in effect, block any chance of Suarez moving this summer since I assume the turn around is 28 days from the PFA. {Ed002's Note - The PFA cannot arbitrate of a contractual clause. It is nothing to do with the PFA at all.}

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The PFA is just 'supporting' the player. I think the whole mediation / arbitration thing is the Premier League, not the PFA?

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07 Aug 2013 10:46:29
Well I have always defended LS but now I feel enough is enough he has to go there's no coming back from this episode. LS has shown his true colours and shoot the people who supported him in the foot. What a horrible individual he is and I for one hope his career crumbles. You will never be bigger than the club suarez do one!

Northern red

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07 Aug 2013 10:41:53
Just go and have a read at the comments etc on places like the BBC article about Suarez, look at fans of other clubs stating how we're not a big club and we can't keep big players and we'll be battl;ing for mid table. Do they not realise after Januarys window we ended up 3rd in the table formwise from Jan onwards?. These people make me laugh convincing themselves we're not a big club and not to mention suarez saying 'I could have left for a big European club'. What. Like one that's won 5 yes 5 European cups?
Its all got my back up all this, I hope Rodgers knows what he's doing because this season above all others is the time for us to show how big a club we are and all pull together, Get rid of the big mouth asap and let's get in someone who is passionate for the club who can score goals, I don't care personally about him going either. when he's playing he reminds of the playground superstar who everyone has to pass to or he'll take his ball home to mummy, we play better football without him in my eyes which is another comment that keeps getting laughed at on the BBC comments section.
We'll see.
YNWA JFT96

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I love our club and while I dislike seeing negative post from other clubs fans. They have a little point here. Its a point I'm starting to see and many on here have been posting similar doubts.

There is only one table. We didn't finish third on the table that counts.

We are a selling club now, forget JH and look for yourself. Players like Reina going out on loan, after our own manager publicly states he wants him and strong competition for places.

Suarez, well a few EDs have said the club want him gone before Suarez did his first press chat in June.

Agger, do you think if Barca offer upwards of £20m FSG won't sell? They can get Ilori for £6m and half the wages. their philosophy.

Seeing Man City/Utd Chelsea, Spurs, Arsenal are ahead of us squad wise and look at the clubs around us, Swansea, Newcastle, Sunderland all improving do you think without CL football AGAIN, Coutinho will stay? BR won't be sacked and we go through another transitional period?

3weeks of the window left, LFC have spent nothing. And these big bids for HM, Costa, Papa? Funny how nothing is confirmed from the selling club?

This window and next season are absolutly MASSIVE. or will be be a mid table selling club, forgotten from the 'Big four/five' a la Everton.

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07 Aug 2013 10:37:22
Got to laugh at Suarez really!

In the age of Player power agents and contracts

He had a "Verbal" agreement that he could leave if no Champions league. He really is a inbred simpleton

Better win percentage without him anyway

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07 Aug 2013 10:36:43
Funny how the same british press that was driving suarez out of lfc is the same british press that he has turned too now to try and brocker a transfer?

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07 Aug 2013 10:35:54
Well at least it out in the open now.

He want to leave! All the back talk can be put to bed now.

No messing around with silly quotes from Manager or the player, it up to Liverpool to get the best price we can for him. Personally I would settle at £45M with transfer request. I think by coming out he last knocked £5M of his price. Clubs know he wants to go and know Liverpool do not have the money or resources to let him be a distraction within the squad

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07 Aug 2013 09:56:56
lets just let the creep join arsenal will be just what he deserves when they don't top 4 now off to get my spurs kit

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07 Aug 2013 09:52:49
ed, fellow reds, with skrtel looking likely to go but little sign of any incoming replacements that are close to joining, do you think it's possible we will stick with Agger, Toure as the first choice then have Kelly and Wisdom as the backups? We do need to bring through these great talents with game time in the first team and the only way to improve them further is by getting that first team experience, or do you think we will sign a first choice centre back?

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07 Aug 2013 09:51:50
Ed 01, . Great work and Mng.
I just understand this concept and Fans acccuisng regarding the Loyalty Bonus.
Make a deal with arsenal with 42 mill. 2 mill for Suarez and straight 40 mill for us and sell him.
Or just lsiten. listen and listen.
John Henry and FSG knows very little about football. But they know one thing crystal clear.
Lui suarez is the only current player who could either get them CL money or a good Profit. {Ed001's Note - sorry but why should he get 2m for being a pathetic whining little brat? What kind of message does that send out? Ridiculous suggestion.}

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Harry, I will give you Reina as an example. Reina warned the club he'd look to leave if Barca came in. They didn't come in but we replaced him so we were open to offers. Even though Reina had been interested in leaving we would have accepted offers without forcing him to put in a TR and lose his loyalty payment. He went about leaving in a dignified manner and, imo, would be deserving of his loyalty payment (not talking about the loan but IF he had actually transferred permanently).

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Agree we carnt send the wrong message out make him sweat and a stand if and when we get wot we want then and only then good bye
Ynwa

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Suarez wants out plain and simple, but he hasn't handed in a transfer request, why, because he is greedy for money. That should be plain to see for everyone.

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And why would arsenal agree to such a suggestion when they already offered 40 million? A fee that they believe is fair, there's no need for them to throw in an extra 2 million just for luis

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07 Aug 2013 09:47:27
hi eds
as soon as a team from outside the pl offer 45m take it and get rid of that person suarez, and anyone that's still moaning on but what good player he is, is just like an ugly bloke trying to keep hold of a beautiful girl who just cheated on him. have some respect and treat him with same hatred torres got for much less trouble.harry scosser even you must be giving up on him now but there will be those prob like harry will blame the owners no ambition br for not getting poor old suarez the cl he wants. no the buck stops with this person and to arsenal I say be careful what you wish for because you just might get it and next summer they can deal with this yap.

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07 Aug 2013 09:38:32
I've got to say that this Luis Saurez saga needs to be sorted asap. This man is a class player (no doubt) but as a person he's a spoilt little sh*t.
The stand off between the club saying he is not for sale and him saying he was told he was allowed to go if we didn't get C/L football needs to be resolved for the good of the club.
Now he's saying he's not playing any friendlies until his future is sorted! What a pr*ck.
i was hoping that he would stay for one more season but after watching ssn this morning I am of the opinion that Suarez is a bad egg and he's causing more damage to the club.
We need rid now!
£50m or rot in the youth team!

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I don't understand folk wanting him to rot in the youth team or the reserves. These youngsters all play for Liverpool as well. It shows as much respect for them as Luis Suarez is showing Liverpool.

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07 Aug 2013 09:35:09
Hey eds, respect your opinions so interested to find out what you would do in the Suarez case? Well him to Arsenal? Only sell him abroad? Not sell him at all because we'll struggle to find quality replacements? Thanks. {Ed001's Note - I would sell him to Arsenal and watch them struggle with him, if they were the highest bidders. Just get rid for me, if no one wants him, then I would stick him in the ressies but give him a squad number so he can't claim restraint of trade etc.}

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Ed, sticking him in the reserves is not the answer, I mean spoilt or not, if he was with us come september, well then he could be the difference between 4th and 5th/6th. May aswell make use of him if no one else offers enough

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07 Aug 2013 12:48:09
were better without him, we play as a team. when he's on its all to and through suarez which is frustraghting as he looses it 90% of the time lol. never been a fan of his ever:L glad everyone is starting to dislike him now!:D I was the onlyone for years!:(

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Then sign up mate so we know who's saying it. When your spidey sense (hindsight) kicks in next time, we know who you are.

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07 Aug 2013 09:33:11
Right not long to go before the first game against stoke! What is or options as a club? Who do we really really need to sign. I think two top signings not sure who but would like them to be hungry for the fight and be able to grab the premiership by the throat and get that top four finish we so badly need. Its time we stood up to the expectations. YNWA

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07 Aug 2013 10:33:40
So Luis says that any offer over 40,000,000 entitles him to leave, so why no legal opposition yet? And now there is a verbal agreement he can go if we don't qualify for the champions league, but any agent worth his salt would have put that in his new contract he signed last summer. Come on Luis show some class for a change.

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Excactly, the runt should be taking it out on his agent. Surely it was his job to make such 'gentlemens agreement' put into writing.oh no I know why because LFC would of told them to duck off! C u next tuesdays!

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07 Aug 2013 10:23:23
At the time of suarez's bite at ivanovic. did anybody else get a feeling suarez knew exactly what he was doing. The 1st part of engineering a move away? Hoping that embarrassment towards the club and loyal fans would help him on his merry way so easily? I'm now pretty sure my gut feeling at the time was correct. Once adored. now a traitor in my eyes. and that hurts to say. Ynwa

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That is exactly what I thought back then.

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07 Aug 2013 10:22:13
The Suarez issue:

I think a lot of people need to look at the whole situation more cooly, and objectively.

it is the same in most walks of life, people are speculating on stuff that may have happened or been agreed/not agreed and coming up with arguments for and against.

I do not like the way Suarez has acted for one minute and he has let the club down, seriously, on numerous occasions.

However, if what he is saying is right and there was/is an agreement that he could leave if there was no CL football for us in 13/14 then he has every right to pursue this - albeit in a better way then he's doing but he should pursue it.

However, LFC need to play the game too and have to repeat he's not for sale in order to get best price - which then frustrates the player and his agent, who then make noises which furstrates the club and the fans, the club issue more statements and the circle goes on.

It's a game, and there's no point getting uptight about it or worrying what's going on, let it happen, it'll reach it's conclusion and the club will move on.

Too much energy is spent on players who aren't happy instead of concentrating on supporting the rest of the squad and preparing for a new season.

There's no cricket this week, the football league has only just started, the Scottish League looks to be dying on its backside - what else is going to sell papers?.

Let it develop, concentrate on supporting those who will be here come start of season and let the press, Club and Luis worry about their situation.

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07 Aug 2013 10:18:43
Would just love it if we sold the whinger to arsenal for 50m plus an then made the champions league at their expense. How hilarious that would be

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07 Aug 2013 10:13:49
Im starting to get bored of this now I just want him gone he is pathetic. I just find it strange that no other club apart from arsenal have made a bid. To go to the papers after what he said about the British media is just a joke. I never felt so angry towards a Liverpool player in my life. He is a very good player but as a person he is a word that rhymes with purple. If I was the security at melwood the door would have stayed closed this morning.

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07 Aug 2013 10:11:16
Suarez you dirty little sewer rat! after everything the club has done for you this is how you treat us. I think that is bull she*p that the club said you can leave if we didn't get champions league you wouldn't of signed a 3 year deal if that was the case you would of had it written in your current contract at the time, and to say if an offer over 40 mill came in the club would let you leave yes you were a 40 mill player last year but after the season you had your a 50+ player now, but I say if a european team come in let him go for 40! we need to get rid asap and bring in a decent replacement before the season starts. suarez your a disgrace and to think my kids idolize you, the grass ain't always greener you rat and you will regret it treating the club like this.

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07 Aug 2013 09:33:03
Morning Eds & all

Ok let's calm down about LS .I am stunned get by the shock on his page.

1) It is now common practice for clubs to collude with players ahead of moves.The buying clubs & agents representatives obviously talk and do their best to engineer moves by any means neccessary.

2) He has been trying to get a move for a long time now so we shouldn't be suprised that he is still trying.

3) Suarez is getting advised on what to say & do.

4) The club should potentially choose their words more carefully saying he is staying, will make them look weak indecisive when he does go.

5) Suarez taking the club to court is not good for anyone, I love the old days when we did our business on the quiet .The club yet again is going to be seen as a circus serving only the media by selling papers etc.

6) None of us actually know the truth, was there an agreement? At the time Suarez signed he had us over a barrel and I do see it as plausible that the club would have come to certain agreements on the quiet.

7) I was looking forward to a summer that focussed on the football, yet again we are focussed on off the field soap opera.

To end my rant I feel that we run the risk of having a long drawn out court action that leaves us looking desperate & weak.


{Ed002's Note - There is no risk of "a long drawn out court action" at all.}

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07 Aug 2013 09:31:33
I think there will be a lot of movement out of the club in the next month by the looks of things! Suarez is as good as gone now! We haven't really spent much so far so there should definitely be funds.

Outs: Flanagan 1m
Skrtel 10m
Spearing 1m
Downing 5m (Games)
Coates 2m
Assaidi 1m
Borini 7m (Games)
Suarez 50m

Targets:
1. DM CB: Papa. He is the man that can long term partner Agger and is one of the best up and coming young players in the world. A deal also looks doable if Liverpool can agree a price!

2. CB LB DM: Gustavo. He is available at a good price with Bayern looking to sell. He plays all the positions that Liverpool are weak in and would be a great addition to the squad. A deal also looks doable!

3. AM LW: Eriksen. He is a fantastic player that could be a superstar some day. Nots so long ago they were queuing up for him. He would be fairly cheap and would definitely Make a difference against the teams that park the bus at Anfield. A deal looks doable!

4. RW AM: Lamela. I think this player could go right to the top if he's not already close to being there! He would be very expensive and probably cost close to 30m but he'd be worth it. A deal would be very hard but Liverpool could offer him big money with all the outgoings!

5. RW ST LW: Muriel. The next great Colombian forward! He is very similar to Suarez and I'd guess would cost around 20m but he'd be we'll worry it! He is the kind of versatile forward Rodgers likes in that at Udinese he plays around Di Natalie. A deal would be difficult but Liverpool can pay him big wages!

Total spend: 80m {Ed002's Note - Sorry but there is no "doable" deal fro Gustavo and Liverpool. The others you can look up to see how "doable" they are as well.}

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07 Aug 2013 09:30:01
I can't believe some on here are still expecting £50m for Suarez. You will be lucky to get the £40m and £1. I cannot see Arsenal budging on their offer and Liverpool will accept less from RM. The question is how much less? If Spurs come into the picture you know Levy will offer £40 and £2.

If Suarez is correct and it's written in his contract that he can move to a UCL club for any offer over £40m, then I imagine the only stumbling block and defence for Liverpool is the structure of payment? Do Liverpool want £40m in a lump sum? I imagine Arsenal are only offering installments.

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There is a bid of £40m and £1 on the table so how will we be lucky to receive this?
If it was written in Suarez' contract that he could leave, then the bid from Arsenal would not have been rejected.
Chicken Little, the sky isn't falling down.

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You really are obsessed with Liverpool aren't you?

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07 Aug 2013 09:29:45
Eds and reds,
Luis Suarez wants to leave for a Champions League side.
Liverpool do not want to sell to a Premier League side.

Are there any foreign clubs, in the Champions League, interested in Luis Suarez?

I know this has been done to death, I am just asking for an update. {Ed002's Note - There is no update, I have explained repeatedly that his agent has been seeking interest from other clubs - including at least one other EPL club.}

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07 Aug 2013 09:25:34
Hi guys well we know how you feel about this situation we've had it over the last couple of years too.Players are no longer loyal and seem to be disrespectful to their clubs and fans.They seem to forget that we are paying their bloody wages too, greedy selfish urchins. The best way in my opinion is to sell them as soon as the unrest starts to unsettle the side.Contracts need to be revised in favour of the club that owns the player and the individual made aware of his contract when he signs, I mean come on they get paid enough Good luck with the new season lads think you can get in the champions league with Brendan {Ed002's Note - Contracts cannot be revised in favour of anyone. It is simply a written agreement between the parties. Clarity is potentially one area where many could be improved.}

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07 Aug 2013 09:23:10
Hi Eds.
I know this isn't Liverpool related, I know some Eds don't like to talk about money.
I was curious though, if one of you understood how badly the European Commissions investigation into baraca, ossassuna, Real Madrid and Barca will affect the clubs if they were to become privately owned. Would it drastically affect the shift in power in La liga? Will the 4 clubs struggle? Will there possibly be any fines imposed by Uefa in the future if for example Madrid don't pay the extra land tax they should be paying?

You're an insightly bunch and I thought you might be able to shed some more light on the mattter than simply what the Guardian reported.

Cheers for the great work guys. {Ed002's Note - Nothing will happen overnight and there will be no great shift in power when it does. Everything is building toward the pan-European league that will exist in about 10 years time when much of this, and an impending chanllenge to restrictive ownership of German clubs, will become moot. In three weeks it will be discussed again.}

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07 Aug 2013 09:19:35
can anyone remember the day Suarez bit Ivanovic.
There was a two page interview in one of the sunday papers where he was pledging his future to the club saying how his wife was calming him down and how he owed the club so much because how they had stood by him.
All I CAN SAY is Iam glad we did because imagine how he would treat him if we hadnt.
Also I LOVE kk but I also remember an interview where he said he and Camolli had done their homework and had a good feeling about the mental side of Suarez and how they knew he had a wild streak .

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07 Aug 2013 09:15:21
Ed02. You discussed late last week about a certain player that was granted a work permit for Man Utd. You also mentioned how one of the men who would grant such permits was wined and dined by Utd people at Wembley Stadium. Is this common practice amongst other clubs or is this sort of act given the blind eye? Or is it just a case of oiling the wheels of industry? Cheers ed.

The Irish Rover {Ed002's Note - It is something that is very much frowned upon but does go on.}

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07 Aug 2013 09:14:52
Morning All

Could anyone help explain how this Suarez mess works from here.
If he hands in the transfer request, I guess we'll bite his hand off (no pun) to avoid the laughable loyalty bonus.
Do we then set a price, as in a definate sale price rather than if Cavani is x and Bale isn't twice the player etc.

Do LFC accept the request and set i.e £55m fee.
If no one bids £55m (in an acceptable way of payments) he has to stay? Would this show LS that we're happy to sell for £55m no one has bid so he has to stay and cannot take LFC to court?

Or does this handing in a request put the ball in his court? Seems LFC are in control of this situation but does a TR mean he'll be sold even if the only bid is £40m+£1?

I get the don't keep an unhappy player, but if no one bids a fair sale price and with the WC coming up, will he not give 100% on the pitch for LFC?

Sorry to waffle on, just so many scenarios in my head {Ed002's Note - Liverpool will look to get the best deal they can, hence the posturing. For me, Suarez's actions are already tantamount to requesting a transfer but I suspect a formal request will arrive in the next couple of days.}

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If he puts in a request we have got an extra 2 million, for him.I still don't think we will accept that 40m plus£1 bid from Arsenal.That was poor judgement.What where they smoking?

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07 Aug 2013 02:17:19
eds how do u change your name
why is the owner and manager saying suarez going nowhere and he acting like a spoilt brat talking to the press he want to get away from I really hope we don't sell too the goons hope real or bayern come calling soon sick of this person
also any news on incomings o I want to change my name to suarez out now lol

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07 Aug 2013 09:11:46
Eds, Just a genral observation.

Could it be that summer 2013 is the close season where all football supporters see the badge-kissing phoneys for what they really are? It would seem that loyalty and support is a moveable feast in the vulgar, bling world of the modern footballer. Shed no tears for these sensitive souls as they seek the comfort of a cash bonanza move to another stadium full of ordinary people who place their faith in false idols. Football? Sh*te.

Just getting it off my chest eds. hope you post this, if only to keep all our feet on the ground

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Great post and very true

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Never truer words said m8.

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07 Aug 2013 09:10:19
At the end of the day, the supporters have been disgraced for worshipping that little whining prick! Shame.

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07 Aug 2013 09:09:19
Hey ED001
Not a transfer related post, but I am interested to know about the saying 'Scouse, not English' and that the government and England deserted Liverpool in its time of need. What is the story behind this?
Thanks {Ed001's Note - it comes from the Thatcher era, when she tried to ride roughshod over the council to get them to follow her rules and Liverpool's council refused to kowtow to her. The shocking thing is that only Heseltine, of all people, stood up to her and said she couldn't just destroy a whole city!}

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07 Aug 2013 11:34:15
eds correct me I iam wrong but here goes. 1.arsenal are not in the champions league.the have yet to qualify. 2.as far as I am aware no team who has qualified for the champ league has activated the so called clause. 3.luis suarez has gone to print accusing the manager of broken promises and the club of breach of contract.if the clause states C L surely he has slandered the manager and the club. 4.surely this places luis suarez and his advisors in avery precarious position. 5.once again not one team who is a qualified C L team has activated the apparent claus. {Ed002's Note - Four English sides qualify for the Champions League, Arsenal enter it at the qualification stage and, if successful, enter the competition proper. (2) Too much is made of the word "activation". (3) No, you are seemingly clutching at a straw of semantics without knowing the content of the contract. (4) No, not at all. (5) See the answer to (2).

You really need to stop trying to make something out of the "contractual" situation. Suarez signed a new contract offered by Liverpool last summer - and it contained a significant pay increase and was there to stop him forcing through a move to Juventus. Now he wants out of the club and has run to the press with this "interview". He is effectively on strike as well - which people seem to be ignoring. As you had previously, the fall back position will be to hand in a formal transfer request (the £2M issue). This I expect to happen any day now. Quite rightly, the club want the best deal they can get - hence the posturing and ill-advised statements to the press. I have mentioned before this is a significant distraction the club does not need. They now need to get him sold and move on before he further damages the reputation of the club.}

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It is very difficult to comment on Suarez saga, since we do not know for sure, if the promise was made, or was not made last year.

However, if LS is saying the truth, and he was promised to be able to leave if Liverpool does not qualify for CL, then, even if that was just a verbal agreement, BR should be keeping his promise.

Promise is above money and everything else. You can hate LS for wanting to leave overall, but you can not hate him for asking BR to keep his promise (if it was actually made, which we are not able to know for sure).

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Damages the reputation of the club? what are you suggesting sell him on the cheap because he whines?
Mascherano damaged the reputation of the club. We are becoming a selling a club because of these primadonas.
It is about time we stand ground and take this to the end.
Then the next player who tries this will know it will be hell form him. just like Tottenham is doing! Do you see them having a damaged reputation? On the contrary.

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07 Aug 2013 09:07:52
I just want to say that if what Suarez is saying is true then I actually side with him on this. Starting to hate the way Brendan Rodgers represents our club. Firstly it is him and us that are not being classy with regards to this transfer not Arsenal, I can't actually see what they have done wrong, they don't speak much about it, we speak about it publicly everyday, and they are just activating a clause which it seems we promised someone they or anyone in the CL could do. Rodgers was mental if he thought we would qualify for CL last season so if he told Suarez he would be free to go if we didn't then he is an person. Once again LFC starting to become the butt of everyones jokes fed up with it

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You've made so many assumptions in this statement of yours that I think you just look like a fool. Sorry but I can't believe anyone would take Suarez' word for anything.

Poor fella can't stay in the country with the media, oh no wait give them a buzz there I must try engineer a move to Arsenal. You're a bigger fool for believing Suarez.

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Is that u suarez.

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What was he meant to say to him last summer?
"If I am being honest Luis, we probably won't qualify for the Champions League this coming season either so you might as well go now. Not to worry though, I have just signed Borini"

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No such thing. LFC and management are actually starting to become a better business.
The one's who joke speak of things that their minds are too small to grasp. This is business. what's on paper matters and not what is said. Making a sale is not about the actual value of the product but rather what another is willing to pay. What gets said is only to manipulate your competition into putting what you want on paper.
There's no intention to sell to arsenal and that whole "class" jibe at Arsenal was just a small poke at their ego to get them to bid higher to show LFC and the arsenal fans a point. Suarez's initial media outbursts and his suspensions etc had lowered the value what others would pay, so that's why this is being dragged on, and statements made that he's not for sale and is part of the squad etc so to raise that valuation. There's clearly spindoctors behind BR's words on the LS topic. LFC have every intention of selling him but want him to go to Madrid who's currently distracted by Bale, and who can't afford both right now. LFC won't sell to another premierleague team unless there's a crazy money bid 50+. What can happen is that Madrid sign Bale, and take LS on loan for a season at a price of perhaps 5-10mil with option to buy next summer 30-50mil. LFC is waiting on the Bale saga to conclude as it would determine whether its a sale or loan. LFC also want LS to hand in a transfer request to waive that 5% of the transfer fee(thanks ed001) as FSG needs to set an example that you can't behave this way and get a fat bonus.
Don't be slating BR. Its not him alone. There's a team of Spindoctors behind his press releases. US style politics is being played.
If a player has the legal right to to be loyal, have no appreciation of the fans, and chase the money. Why then can the club, not lie to the players and tell them whatever it takes to get what they want. CLUB FIRST. That should be the ONLY Principle.

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07 Aug 2013 09:07:03
Good day all. One Question Eds.
If LS wanted out so badly and hates the media so much.
Does a transfer request have any financial implications or is there any power shift once a transfer request is handed in? What power does a written transfer request grant a player? and Why has he opted to approach the media rather than just handing in a transfer request?
And why threaten to hand in a transfer request at the end of the week. Why not just write it on a napkin and get it over with?
What does the player or the club lose with a transfer request? {Ed001's Note - a written transfer request waives a player's right to receive 5% of the transfer monies. That is why the greedy person has not done so. The same reason why Torres was asked to hand one in to get his move.}

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I think LFC are deliberately playing dumb and want him to file that written transfer request because you can't behave like this AND then get a fat reward for it. 5% of 40+mil?

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07 Aug 2013 08:59:14
I see a meltdown Ed's.

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Good idea except we will need monies to fund a replacement. Why not ask RM for £20k, 25k next year & just get rid. Luis will be happy & we can get a replacement and move on.

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07 Aug 2013 08:54:44
Best option is for LS to be offered to Real on a Season long loan at a price with option to buy at the end of the season between 40-50mil. (Real can't afford both bale and Suarez now).

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07 Aug 2013 11:06:21
Sure they can. Plus, if you believe reports in the independent, they may not be able to do do next summer

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07 Aug 2013 11:14:40
thats what he wants to happen.

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07 Aug 2013 08:52:29
Banter:
There were plenty of interviews last season with some of our senior players/staff saying that if we didn't make CL this season we'd struggle to keep Suarez for the current situation not be a surprise. Its just not pleasant when his win at all costs mentality is turned against us - and some of what he has said has been very ill-advised. There's a clear parallel with Reina in that neither's move that was mooted during last season has yet matieralised but I expect Pepe will move to Barca in 12 months time (possibly with a pre-nup in Jan). I'm pretty sure Suarez will be sold but we're tryinhg hard to maximise the value. A shame that we haven't managed to get all of our 1st choice targets but there is an awful lot of business still to be done this window - just look at the clubs around us -so there's plenty to look forward to

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07 Aug 2013 08:50:27
Suarez has used the people he says he hates the most - 'The Press' - to blow this whole pantomime out of the water.

If he's right, we need to be honorable. (although what Suarez knows about honor and loyalty is nothing.). 

Could other players be looking at this fiasco and thinking twice about joining?

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07 Aug 2013 08:46:47
I am a worried LFC fan at the moment.
It seems like we are getting rid of all the high earners (who probably don't justify it anyway) to get in players on not so high wages, Stevie seems to be the exception. But what happens if Coutinho or any other player has a great season and suddenly he wants a big pay rise, do we give him it or sell?
Having said that I do believe that BR and FSG are getting a squad together capable of challenging. Maybe the players are now on smaller wages but get a big bonus for success.
Need 2 or 3 more experienced signings and I think we will be there or there abouts.
Reading the papers we seem to be linked with nearly everyone then "lose out" when we don't get him. Was we really after that person anyway? Don't believe everything you read in the press as a lot of it is fabricated. There is always an element of truth in an article but the rest is made up shall we say, so instead of being a paragraph long article it becomes half a page.
In the job I am in I have seen this happen on many occasions, when you know what has really happened to what is printed, take it all with a pinch of salt.
Anyway looking forward to a great season and from what I have seen preseason the football shall be pleasing on the eye. {Ed001's Note - we gave Suarez a large pay rise last season, due to his performances, I really don't see any issue there.}

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Split personality Splaphead?

I think you've made some very valid points to justify every worry of yours, you're effectively after having a civalised argument with yourself. I think positive you won though did it?

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07 Aug 2013 08:45:14
We all new deep down he was going to go,
If its true what he says about Juve coming in for him last season and we asked him to stay one more year to get CL and we didn't, then I think he's kept his mouths shut hoping that we honour the agreement, but now it's getting close to the knuckle with all words out of anfield that Louis will stay, I think we forced his hand to to public,
Football is a short career especially for a forward at the top of his game, he deserves CL he's a fantastic player.
Let him go, you never know the goners may get knocked out in the qualifiers, we will be 40-50 mil up, we have a good young squad, the futures bright.
We really don't need him.
DS will step up this season.
Paul the red

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07 Aug 2013 08:40:11
Can you imagine how much trouble Suarez would get into if he stayed and played for us while unhappy. He got 2 lenghty bans for biting and racial abuse while being happy playing for us.

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07 Aug 2013 08:34:05
Happy posts day.

Saurez will leave, probably for the Goooners and they will finish 5.

Then he willl in the press next year saying, that in his contract that if Arsenal fail to get CL footy and Liverppol do, he is allowed to return to Anfield, then a week later he will say that the Tesco staff are bullying him to by own brand pasta, bread etc etc.

Let him go where he wants, we'll (hopefully) buy 2 experienced quality forwards.

Dublad

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No we won't let him go where he wants. The team must pay his value. Suarez is not bigger than the club, the club is ruling the game.
Get this in your thick head. The little chappy's whines doesn't automatically make it easy for him to leave on the cheap. 40m pounds to Arsenal NO WAY! 50m and we can discuss it.

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07 Aug 2013 08:28:07
Hi eds. As a Liverpool fan I would like to think suarez has worn the great shirt for the last time after his latest outburst but my question is. Do you know if the club have secretly offering him and to any other foreign teams? And the only reason we haven't kicked him out yes is bcos we can't get the fee we want and is your gut instinct be that he'll be an arsenal player? {Ed001's Note - there is no secret offering, we have made it known he is available for a price.}

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07 Aug 2013 08:28:03
I don't blame Suarez for wanting to leave but everyone agrees it's the manner in which he's doing it. But I do agree that we have shown a lack of ambition. We scoured the market for bargains instead of making proper, quality signings. Not a criticism of the club more a fact unfortunately.

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07 Aug 2013 08:22:08
with Reina and Caroll gone and Suarez, Skrtel, Assaidi and maybe Downing leaving does that mean LFC is trying to get rid of the big earners and force new salary rules.
For example Spurs have a wage limit, you can't earn more than 100k(or something like that) a week(except Bale)
are we trying the same thing?

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07 Aug 2013 08:21:08
A note to the eds; When I click on previous banter, the posters names have disappeared. Just thunk you'd like to know. {Ed001's Note - cheers mate, I will get that checked out.}

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07 Aug 2013 08:19:53
Good luck today Ed's I have a feeling you are going to have a busy day.

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07 Aug 2013 08:13:02
I hate to say this but old whisky nose was right when he said suarez will drag the clubs name through mud.I don't know if he was just trying to wind us up with his mind games or simply telling the truth but he was right in the end. If suarez does end up at arsenal I hope we spend the money on quality players and pip arsenal to forth spot, now that would definitely be worth celebrating like we won a trophy ;)
Cheers!
YNWA

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07 Aug 2013 08:09:04
Hey eds Just a thought if Liverpool just bit the bullet and said right luis can leave but we want £60million + would that no suit both parties luis gets his wish at being transfer listed and he can start talking to clubs and we make it clear that where not accepting anything less then £60mil surly by doing this it will take the attention away from luis and push it towards what great preseason where having its just starting to do my head in a bit now everyday theirs something new he's sad or done and nothing about our new players gelling with the team and if we make it clear that he can go but where no accepting anything less it will sort the man from the boys or the big clubs from the likes of arsenal

Ramythered

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That's a great idea. Can't believe no one has tried that before.

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If - big if - Suarez contract states that no CL then he can leave and speak to someone for 40 million, then it sound like to me that he has a point, however, it is only talk? I'm confused!

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07 Aug 2013 07:51:19
According to Brendan:
"We still have some business to do to bring in a few more players. By the end of August I hope that we will have a squad that will be ready to compete and challenge for the top four.

"We need one or two players to cover positions where we're a little bit short, and also probably looking to bring in maybe one or two in the attacking areas. We'll see how that goes.

I'm thinking we are a bit short of LFB and DMF and for the attacking position; it is quite obvious now that Suarez will drop a transfer request so it means we will either be getting a striker or a forward and also a left winger.

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07 Aug 2013 07:47:12
Hi All,

Can anyone provide us with a functional free link for today's game? A good website which will stream the game in good quality? Appreciated!

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Just pay the fiver for this months LFCTV, watch the 2 games then cancel it.

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07 Aug 2013 07:40:56
I have heard craig bellamy has offered suarez the chance to go on a golfing trip whilst the club is away, any truth in this eds?

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07 Aug 2013 07:28:33
How Ironic - Mr Saurez uses the media - the very same media he was crying about not long ago - to make public his pleas to leave LFC and goes on to even say they have made "promises" to him that they have failed to keep.
Is this guy for real?
Please LFC start the fines on this jerk for publicly bringing the club into disrepute/shame!
Have him sit in the reserves this year is what I would do! Screw the $$ its not about that.
The only way to really get back at somebody like this is to do what they would hate the most - not play them in the league and make them sit on the bench in the reserves!
Honestly the have the audacity to now tell the club WHO to sell to and for how much?!!
Sorry mate but you where ALREADY in a champions league club (AJAX) BEFORE you came to LFC who were not in the CL., SO you cannot use that lame excuse anymore.
If you really wanted CL then why did you leave? ummm let me think? MORE $$$!
Thats all there is too it,,,
Dont think you fool anyone you moron!

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07 Aug 2013 07:18:02
Whatever work FSG and BR has done in the media the last few weeks to try and raise his valuation has now taken a hit. Wouldn't be surprised if LFC loan him out to Madrid for a season for a price with option to buy at 40-50mil.

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07 Aug 2013 07:15:54
Hi Edds and Reds,
Ive calmed down a little over the Suarez incident now. i'm sure you will be swamped with Suarez posts today, so thought I would get a quick question in.
If Suarez went to Arsenal, would his ban apply to Champions League games as well? Or just league games? i'm guessing the latter.
But it would be brilliant if Arsenal where somehow knocked out before Suarez could get a game and then us hopefully take their spot for next year?
Thanks {Ed001's Note - only games under the auspices of the English FA, so not European games, whether Champions League or Europa League.}

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07 Aug 2013 07:10:18
If I was Liverpool I would do everything to get Jackson Martinez (Porto) first. And than sell Suarez for as much as we can.

Jackson Martinez is not the same type of player as Suarez but he is the only topplayer who could be available at the moment.
Besides that we got enough quality on the wings to provide the strikers.

We need a topstriker. We've got Sturridge who's got the quality but still has to prove it.

Please send me your opinions!

Maurice

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I for one agree with you. Sturridge is simply not enough, even though he is good, he still needs to prove he is 20+ goalscorer in order to say we don't need another striker

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07 Aug 2013 07:31:31
Far from Suarez bringing our club down, I think we are at last showing the club IS bigger than the player and we are showing the rest of the Football world we are not being held to ransom by this individual.

The last few years of protecting this player are over, we have had enough, if any club are interested they should pay his worth, if not he will stay and fight for his place or rot on the bench/reserves, with the world cup forthcoming, if he stays he has no choice but to fight and put in performances what we are used to before he gets a place with Uruguay.

Rodgers and the board have got it right at last, Suaraez to buck up or buck off
Potential buyers should show us the money or be shown the door.

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07 Aug 2013 07:04:47
Ed's, have heard reports that Anzhi's owner has put their whole squad on the transfer market. Who could you see coming in to the PL from Anzhi? Also, who could you see FITTING in Liverpools squad.
Cheers {Ed001's Note - I don't know mate, it was not exactly expected, considering he was just adding to the squad with Samba a couple of weeks ago.}

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Willian possibly

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If this is the case, then surely we should try and sign Willian, would be a brilliant addition for us. {Ed002's Note - Don't hold your breath about Willian.}

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07 Aug 2013 07:02:29
Suarez is definitely leaving. People saying rodgers and henry making it worse by denying it are wrong. If Liverpool would of sold him without suarez coming out and saying it like he has done publicly now, saurez would of probably lied again and said I didn't want to leave. Rodgers and henry are just saying these things to maximise the amount of money we will receive and be able to reinvest into the team. Luis is a quality player, but time to cash in now. Anyone who is that desperate to leave to resort to his tactics just needs to be moved on before it affects the sqaud. Just can't wait for season to start now!

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07 Aug 2013 06:34:08
Morning Eds

I was in the pub last night and witnessed three players, Gareth Bale, Wayne Rooney and our own Louis suarez, Bale was ordering drinks at the bar, he wanted a REAL fresh orange juice, Louise suarez was at the juke box looking for that top Arsenal song Just a small town boy (think he's been watching rock of ages to many times) , Rooney however was in the corner with two women, as I got closer I realised they were chelsea pensioners .

Just thought i'd pass on a bit of light hearted banter to start the day .

PS never thought I would say this but I will like many other fans now be glad to see the back of LS, and for any of you Gooners its £50 mill so put up the dosh or shut up because you ain't getting him for less that that

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Worst joke I've ever heard.

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07 Aug 2013 06:11:41
Not here defending LS but is it possible that the club went back on there word. Torres also said the club lied to him and that's why he left. I personaly feel it's time to go because other players won't come here if they see how players have to force their way out.

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So as Suarez not gone back on his word by saying he wanted out of English football?1

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Sorry but wot are contracts for why sign 4 years last year if he only wanting to wait for this summer to see if we made top 4 not dig m8 just about time us blind people woke up and smelled the coffee, I do not want are club being bullied by a player wanting his own way, I'm sure if a club was to offer a big £ then he would have gone but its not there fault that other clubs don't value him as high and so far not putting up the cash I hope the owners stay very strong pay wot we want or he stays, make a stand
Ynwa {Ed002's Note - He signed the contract last year because he got a significant increase in pay and to stop him moving to Juventus.}

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07 Aug 2013 05:54:27
Hey eds, do you think Suarez behavior will put off some of the clubs that may otherwise be interested in him?
Kinda like Hazard and Eriksen I mean {Ed001's Note - possibly, though most of the clubs bothered by that would have been put off long ago!}

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Ed001 do you still see other clubs making bids or is he arsenal bound? {Ed001's Note - I expect him to go to Madrid, personally.}

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07 Aug 2013 05:44:27
Over time, I have always said I want Suarez to be sold ASAP.

However, after his disgraceful interviews with the UK papers, the club should simply reject any offers from the PL and not countenance any offer below 50 million and Suarez gets to forfeit his loyalty bonus.

When those 3 conditions are met, he can go. In the mean time, he can continue whining to the media and throwing tantrums. The club should remain calm. That calmness is putting a squeeze on Suarez and his agents.

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Paul Mccarthy on ssn, papers review, did an excellent piece, and sounded a lot like the Eds.He hasn't been fooled by Suarez and said he hopes Liverpool dig in and get the best deal for the club.

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I believe it is in his contract that he can leave for offers over 40m.the prob is lfc never forseen that one year later cavani would be worth 55m or that bale would be worth 80m.in other words lfc have been caught with their knickers down and they realise it and are now reneging on the contract and assurances they made

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07 Aug 2013 05:44:21
Well, nice show by Cissokho last night for Valencia by setting up Michel's goal. And it was against Everton! I hope we can manage to get him.

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07 Aug 2013 05:33:36
Whilst I don't believe what any of the papers print I would not put it passed LS trying to escalate his move away from the club, but if he is desperate to leave why has he not handed in a transfer request? is it simply so he receives his bonuses, if this is true then surely money means more to him than CL and loyalty. I don't know the clubs policy on players releasing statements to the press but surely their are grounds to discipline the player for marring the clubs name, a hefty fine and a few weeks in the reserves or out of any team altogether. The club needs to start taking a stronger stance with any player releasing unofficial statements, why have a press officer if he is not doing his job.

In BR I trust. YNWA

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I think Suarez is doing everything he can to force the issue apart from handing in transfer request for the simple reason he doesn't want to lose his bonus.

What I believe is Arsenal is not his preferred move he wants Real to come in for him and by flirting with Arsenal I think he is trying to tempt Real.

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07 Aug 2013 04:03:20
Just went to the LFC website to check the match timing. noticed Suarez's picture being taken off the mini player profile in the 'Team' section that's on the home page.

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Thats a good spot! doesn't look good (depending if you want him to stay or not!)

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07 Aug 2013 03:33:49
Well, well, well Mr. Suarez. Why not hand in a transfer request then?
Don't tell me you want the loyalty bonus? Loyalty? Incredulous!

Oh how we slagged off on Owen and Torres when they left. I almost feel ashamed. They were saints, saints I tell you. Suarez is the new and improved, genetically advanced, modern day mercenary. Apparently this new design of a cutthroat comes in spineless!

The only part of this ordeal that really irks me is the fact that obviously concluding our transfer business hinges on what happens with this person. We, the fans, are all eager to have our squad completed and training together as soon as possible, sans Suarez.

There is no possible way that keeping him could ever be good for the club, and that is what we care about, the club. Sorry Stevie made that shiny endorsement for a man with so little respect for anything.
I'M DONE!

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Ha ha get off the fence and say what you mean

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07 Aug 2013 03:32:37
I donr quite get all the Suarez crap to be honest, sure he's a good footballer. he's come to the fore since he joined Liverpool FC, I don't mean to be disrespectful of the little urchin but LFC made him visible.
Let the toerag for as much as we can get I for one hope he falls flat on his face at his next club, yes I liked him being an employee of LFC but he's proved to me that he just ain't worth the hassle, he's a man with footballing talent but no class.
I don't think he will be missed short or long term in my opinion, all the games I've seen us play wthout him proves my point that we are more fluid in attack, if Brendan gets it right defensively and adds creativity to the midfield then we will be a strong force once again.
I had my doubts I must admit but I think FSG and Rogers will soon see the rewards for their shrew business model. and for that I applaud them both.
We DO NOT need players like Suarez and the like. primadonas all of that type, give me the Souness, Mcmahons Beardsleys Whelans Rushes and Aldridges and the like all day long. LFC is the Ultimate.

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07 Aug 2013 03:09:52
commentators just stated on Fox Soccer during the Everton- Valencia friendly that Aly Cissokho was moving to Liverpool. I don't really see a place for him as Enrique is a much better player.

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I wouldn't be surprised if Enrique is the next one out of the door. He has a big salary. Glen Johnson will go next season. But he's pants anyway.

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Really. Enrique going forward is a donkey mate.bad first touch and no vision for a cross!

Ynwa

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Competition will make him even better IMO. not saying enrique is better, I like enrique, but I don't think he is the best. but competition will definitely make him better, or make cissokho or any other LB better and push enrique out of the team. whatever happens, it should happen for the benefit of the club.

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Or, could Enrique be used further forward in place of Downing? With Cissokho at LB?

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I don't think either are good enough to be honest.

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07 Aug 2013 02:41:37
Ed01 has it spot on. He was crying like a baby at the start of thesummer about his treatment in the press, now he's using those same hacks against us. Trying to make out like rhe club are keeping him captive. Oh poor luis is not getting his way boohoo. Absolute Twunt. I just hope the fans get one more chance to show what we really think of the prick!

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Lfc is not desperate to hold on to Suarez because we visual evidence which shows that we play better without him. His latest rant just shows how desperate HE is and will drag us thru the mud just to get his way. He`s nothing but a lying, coniving cheat who hates the UK press but now wants to stay in the UK. Sad, pathetic loser.

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Twunt - my new favourite word. Nice one Neel10.

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07 Aug 2013 08:31:50
If he is still with the club come the 17th for the stoke match, i'm am at the game and I am just hoping we lift the roof of the place and make him feel unwelcome, cause he's not.

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As always the class act was the fans the other night. The whole situation is ironic hates the press then uses them to stay in premier league and move to Aresenal. The biggest one will be us getting top four and Aresenal fith. Let him go and move on imoso bored of Suarez.

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Well these guys just want a story . Suarez thought they hated him but they just used him as they are doing now . how niaive can he be 2mo they could turn on him again . whereas the lfc fans and management have stuck by him and given him the benefit of the doubt . i'd hate for him 2b in a Liverpool shirt ever again . how can any1 ever believe his side of the Evra saga we just don't need players like him playing for our club and should be happy to move him on for a profit and let some other club deal with him and his history . If anyone really dare

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07 Aug 2013 09:45:09
Seriously. why don't you just have the 40 mill and agree deal with arsenal about the loyalty bonus too and sell him.
Arsenal woudnt mind to offer us 40mill + 2 mill loyalty bonus we owe to Suarez, rather than 55 mill of our valuation.
We aren't desperate?. Jesus.We are really and really despertae to hold him as he is the only real top quality player we have got. {Ed001's Note - so Gerrard and Coutinho don't count in your world then?}

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What happened to the "person" filter eds? {Ed001's Note - not sure I get what you mean? There were no swear words there, twunt is not a swear word, it is used in place of 2 though!}

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I agree Ed, twunt is a lovely word. Lewis Caroll would be proud. Was thinking more of "jabberwock"!

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Haha. great creative editing eds. love it. {Ed002's Note - I was thinking of the Frumious Bandersnatch myself.}

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07 Aug 2013 02:01:23
Fellow Reds!

I'm just lost for words when I think of the limit Suarez will go to get his way. We should've known though. He is unique, not only for his footballing skills, but for his behavioural patterns. Fans turn a blind eye to the 'little cheats' a player commits but it's infuriating when the same player cheats on the fans and the club by now blatantly lying! I want nothing more than see him sold for over 50M and replaced, but Liverpool have to teach this peasant a lesson! Where is the transfer request? Press pressure or CL football? What's next? He's changing statements by the day and dragging us further down with him! I have never ever seen a player bring his team down as much as he does to Liverpool! I wish we sold him last week and will look forward to the day when his antics catch up with him because he's not going to have many real people in his corner and the press will surely roast him!
Sorry guys, but I am so angry with this upstart. Can't wait for him to leave. just leave because we will be better off without you!

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07 Aug 2013 02:55:37
But more alarming is that this trend shows maybe more and more players have started questioning our ambition and resources to compete.
The club and BR must start to show more ambition and show they have enough resources available if the time fits Or this might happen again next year with another player. LFC are just stepping stones now, eh?

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That has nothing to do with it, my friend so stop talking b*******. If that was the case, Dagger, Johnson, and gerrard would also have left. He`s been nothing but trouble since he came here but we all turned a blind eye. He`s been suspended for about 20 games. Was that the owners, BR, KK or the fans fault or his? Shoot, KK lost his job in great part thanks to this lying rat. If he had spent that time on the pitch then maybe we would have had a chance to make top 4.

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07 Aug 2013 05:17:31
Original poster I fully endorse all that you have said.

Sydney, I don't agree with yourself. Last season Liverpool went out and bought heavily and have done under Rodgers and especially under FSG. We have signed Carroll (35m) Downing (20m) Henderson (16-20m) Allen (11-15m) Enrique (7m) Sturridge (12m) Aspas (8m) Alberto (8m) Coutinho (8m). FSG are showing real ambition and giving Rodgers the money to spend.
I for one have begun to see what Rodgers is going for. None of his new signings is 'marquee' nor are they household names but what I have seen is that they are all capable of intricate and almost intuitive inter play. Those little one twos, lay offs, round the corner balls, nutmegs, flicks, turns. I have seen Coutinho, Aspas and Sturridge all capable of this. The reason I believe in our bid for Costa is that I have a lot of this from him also. In attacking terms I believe he wants players who think on the same wavelength and can improvise, it's very tricky to defend against because its all intuitive and sudden.
In terms of midfielders he wants a wide range of passing, Henderson has shown his ability since moving more central in ore season. Allen has also improved massively. Alberto is similar in this.
Wingers, he wants people who can drive their opponent into the box, look at Dyer and Routledge, Sterling and Ibe are very similar in terms of style, they get at the defender. A Villa Downing did this, drove his man this way and that then flashed a ball in to Agbonlahor or Carew to nod in.

Rodgers is doing fine, he may not go out and buy the Falcaos, Fabregas' or Di Maria's, but that's because a big name and a big price tag do not appeal to him, all that appeals to him is a player who can play the game in the style he now has our team playing. He will find a player who technical fits but does not have the big name or price and he will be our man, such as Aspas. But he has shown a willingness to move for people who do cost if they show promise, such as Costa or maybe Sturridge.

The ambition is there, the style of play is coming, and we will have our time, please remember this is Rodgers first full summer window with the club.

Eds, I shall return the soap box I borrowed for that one, cheers haha

Anfield Andy

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Please mate this is not about lack of ambition or lack of resources what this is is plain old fashion greed. Cause Suarez can ask for a transfer request at any time but he doesn't so he can keep his loyalty bonus. Its got nothing to do with the club just his selfish insistence is what's the real problem.

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07 Aug 2013 07:40:40
Top reply Sydney.
You can blame him howmuch you want. but that doesn't change the facts. we would be loosing top quality players to other clubs, if we ain't comepting.

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KK lost his job because we done crap in the league and he bought tragically. The Suarez incident was merely to blame for his shortcomings. Gerrard nearly went and Johnson is hardly in a rich vein of form to warrant a move to a Champs league club. Whilst Agger could still very well move with Barcelona sniffing about. I don't blame Suarez for wanting to leave because with the signings we've made we will just about get sixth. {Ed002's Note - I have explained many times before that Dalglish lost his job that December day in Wigan. Suarez ultimately cost Dalglish his job.}

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07 Aug 2013 09:48:40
Crap. Steven gerrard was almost turned his head around to join Chelsea. never happened though.Boyhood fan. club. etc.
No one. I mean nO top 4 club would ever want Johnsosn.
Agger is a geat player. But Barcelona. If comes with a serious interst to partner in theor Heart of their defence, I could see him moving.
Who else is left?.
Sturridge is just 23 and countinho 22, let them prove theor worth and you could see top clubs after them.
hendo, downing, allen, Enrique are already with the best possible club they could ever be.

Y is aguero at city?. Bigger than Liverpool?.
Simple. Title contender. CL. Money. and that makes your career. {Ed001's Note - to be fair Johnson turned down Chelsea to join us, they are top 4. So again more nonsense based on lack of any kind of knowledge.}

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The club has been one of the biggest spenders in transfers for a while. How much ambition do you want them to show?
The biggest issue the club had was buying players for inflated prices that weren't good enough. This has been dealt with now with a new scouting team and not overpaying for players, but some fans are still not happy!

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07 Aug 2013 01:54:08
Ed just out of interest, do you know if Brendan Rodgers claims to be Irish or British? Cheers. {Ed001's Note - not a clue mate, not that I care to be honest.}

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Yeah it was a bit of a stupid question really! Let's just hope he can bring us the luck of the Irish on the pitch anyway! Really think he is the one to take us forward, hope he stays even if we don't finish top 4. What's your opinion Ed? Cheers. {Ed001's Note - I would like him to talk less and just let the team do his talking for him. Other than that, it is still too early to judge him, things were looking up at the end of the season, but this summer is the first real test of his management. Suarez has at least given him a chance to prove he is up to the task of managing a big club.}

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Does it really matter where he claims to be from as long as he does a good job.

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He regards himself as "northern irish" as far as I am aware

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I am of the same opinion of the Ed, Brendan needs to think before he gives interviews and have more of a Bob Paisley way about him.Bob never talked to the players, never mind the press.The players knew if they were doing the right things on the pitch when he named them the following week.

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07 Aug 2013 09:33:35
br was born in ireland and I would assume he is irish shock horror imagine that.

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07 Aug 2013 01:33:18
I would have no problem selling Suarez to Arsenal that would be a terrible move for him, Arsenals problem is not creating or scoring its defending, Wenger should be spending 40 million on two quality defenders!
Suarez would be fed up at the emirates after 18 months and pulling the same stunts to get out of there.
Credit to Liverpool though I think they are playing a blinder first not letting him go on the cheap and secondly trying to force Suarez into putting in a transfer request, he has let it be known twice now he will submit a transfer request now and still has not done it.
whole situation stinks of pure greed from Suarez!

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Id honestly feel a bit sorry for the gooners if they end up getting him. Wasting 45m+ on a player guaranteed to do a Fabregas at the first opportunity and more than likely spend a number of games suspended. The are a decent club who try to play football the right way and they don't deserve Suarez.

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You do know Arsenal had the 2nd best defensive record in the league don't you?

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07 Aug 2013 01:30:07
I think we are all about done with suarez.

Who would everyone like us to see make a move for? Realistically.

Eds?

I'm struggling to think of anyone. Maybe someone like Damiao? Yilmaz? Muriel? {Ed001's Note - Muriel or Bernard for me, that I can think of.}

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Bernard would be an amazing buy. We need 3 first team players I'd go for papadop CB Bernard LF Sanchez RF all available for about 18/22m each might be possible if we sell Suarez!

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Konoplyanka, Turan, or Costa (in that order for me) as the new LW. Although Muriel and Bernard are fine choices as well.

A new backup LB (sounds like Cissokho might be on his way already for that already).

Another CB to replace Skrtel as 3rd choice. Not sure who but I think Papadopoulos is probably too expensive. Someone in the 8-10M range maybe? Caulker would have been about perfect. Maybe Alvaro Dominguez?

Assuming a few pounds left over, maybe try to pick up another attacking threat like Martin Harnik or Praet.

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You would think so wouldn't you. But I guess he fancied the extra £20k per week. And hard to believe his agent didn't bring up the issue and have it out in the contract really if Liverpool were happy to concede this verbally. All the little git can talk about is how he loves the fans but the club have been oh so awful - this is e same club who defended him to the hilt in the Evra incident. Suarez not fit to wear the shirt

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07 Aug 2013 01:27:47
Surley if wot suarez is saying was true he wouldn't have signed a new contract and would have just had the so called agreement inserted into his existing one?

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07 Aug 2013 07:42:58
Seriously. Not necessary.you don't need to Insert every bit in your contract. Especially when you trust someone.
Do you get everything in written from your Wife? {Ed001's Note - you talk some crap Harry. This is a contract, business, you get it in writing always. Trust someone? You really are deluded if you believe anything that comes out of Suarez's mouth, this is not the first time he has lied to force a move and earn some extra millions for himself.}

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That's not how a contracts work mate. He got a nice pay rise signing the new contract so why not. Plus the clause says nothing about selling from what I have been told so he was again just greedy and thought I can get more money and have a way out. Sick of this guy now. all balls when the team and manager are not around but says nothing when they are.

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07 Aug 2013 01:19:28
Its simple arsenal pay up or shut up its obvious suarez has been told to play up like a baby to try and force our hand the ironic thing for me is he would prefer to go to real madrid if and its a big if morata is included in the bale transfer then maybe they will come in but I can't see them offering more than 40 mill would be v funny if arsenal lose there qualifier ( can't really see it ) hoping tho, on a serious note there is less than 2 weeks till the season starts so this needs sorting personally erickson, costa and papa and by christmas we kopites will be singing all the way back into the champs league and suarez HISTORY for us YNWA

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07 Aug 2013 01:15:17
don't see why Liverpool bothered perpetuating the lie that this gravy train hopper has a foot injury, should have made him travel with the squad to norway an let his team mates give him what for,
DAMM. why did we sell bellamy.

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Actually, the truth is probably that Suarez whimped out of going. As soon as the team was on the plane, he was on the phone to the newspapers. that's how people like him act.

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07 Aug 2013 01:11:02
I think I'm more upset with Rodgers than Suarez. His quotes in the interview on the official website are completely bogus about Suarez. I can't believe I thought he would stay. I blame BR. I will forgive him if he signs another player with as big of an influence as Coutinho. I'm sorry Eds, I won't doubt you again. {Ed001's Note - I don't see what else Rodgers could say? I think it would have been better to say nothing though.}

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I read BRs quotes about agger. I was like how is Suarez super loyal now? My bad Ed {Ed001's Note - ah right, that would have been confusing!}

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07 Aug 2013 00:41:33
Hello eds, hope all is well! Please tell me/us who you think will be brought in if Suarez is sold!

Cheers {Ed001's Note - I don't think there can be any if, it is clearly when. Right now, not sure, no point me guessing, we know we are trying to sign a left winger/left back (or both) and a central defender, plus a central attacker.}

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Well seems you think we are after a winger & attacking player, do you think it's possible for arsenal to make Walcott a part of the Suarez deal?

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07 Aug 2013 01:02:41
I smell a 200k fine coming on.
Rodgers had better hit him in the pocket, it's the only answer for it.
He'll understand then perhaps.
Don't even want to write his name.
I like Brendan, this is his chance now to really show his metal.
Put the little rodent in his place once and for all.
Arsenal are welcome to him in my opinion. {Ed030's Note - Fining him would have no affect on him mate,Plus technically not morally he hasn't done anything wrong. }

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Breach of confidentiality possibly.
Are player's contract details allowed to be publicised even by the player himself, I'm not sure.
All pointless though I know.
Just want rid of him now.
He's a top player but I'd rather he left now.
Why does he want Arsenal though?!
They're not even what I'd call title contenders.

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To be honest, whilst we were happy with our post Xmas exploits last season as being a top four team, arsenal actually topped the league, so I guess they're clinging onto the same things we are, that better things are around the corner.

I agree you wouldn't automatically think of them as champions, but maybe they're closer than we would like to think.

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We are more of a title contender than you lot.

i don't get your bitterness at all.

if luis was promised a move if you did not get cl football, why does your club not stick by the agreement.

personally I do not want him at arsenal but I am glad finally we are going for top players.

since when did Liverpool fans become so bitter, your better than that.

ed001 where do you think he will end up.i personally think he is using arsenal for a move to chelsea.

regards

malaga gooner {Ed001's Note - I expect him to end up at Madrid still.}

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A good and open minded reply there Marshy .

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07 Aug 2013 01:01:29
Suarez taken off Liverpool official front page. Replaced with glen johnson. suarez
gone. gutted but aspas coutinho and co can make a difference

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07 Aug 2013 01:00:04
I know it has been done to death, but I would just like to point out LS's use of the crowd cheering him.
Whilst it seemed this was an almost desperate attempt to change his mind by the 'cheering, ' he actually used it against by claiming he thought it was a sign of us fans not being 'angry' at his will to leave.
So he uses it to further justify the move he wants.
Sneaky.
I hope all of you that were convinced he was staying, and still supported LS, by cheering him -feel as stupid as they deserve to feel.
I know a lot of you meant well, But you were actually giving him ammunition to use against us.
Just sayin.'

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07 Aug 2013 00:58:06
i read the saurez interview in the gaurdian, and with saurez, s history and then the lies and broken promises from lfc, the whole thing is a complete mess.you just can't believe anything that comes out of BR, JW or LS mouths.just take the 40m and walk your separate ways or this thing is going to fester and cast an almighty shadow over Liverpools season

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You`re joking right? You believing a lying cheat who manipulates things to suit his agenda and half got kk fired over a manager. who spent the whole of last season defending him sometimes to a fault. You might not like BR and that`s fine BUT taking Suarez`s side shows how stupid and one-sided your thinking really is. Pathetic post

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No broken promises all lies by the player and his greed.

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07 Aug 2013 09:35:53
Word, you are somewhat contradicting you'rself. You say that you are fed up with the lies coming out of the toe rag's mouth, but believe him that lfc and rogers have gone back on promises made to him. I know who I believe

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Im not defending LS, but as far as KK is concerned, he's a big boy and he dug his own grave, that tee-shirt thing was a PR nightmare along with his very prickly and cringworthy defense of LS to the press, I doubt LS asked for it or indeed really cared.you don't need to tell me how to spot a bad-un, I have met LS types before, but I have also met BR types before, whereas LS is just a toe-rag BR is as slippery as butter and I would advise keeping a close eye on him and taking what he says with a pinch of salt

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07 Aug 2013 00:57:52
great site first of all.
is there any interest in solomon rondon {Ed030's Note - He only moved last summer. }

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Suarez and Skrtel only signed new long-term contracts last summer Ed. {Ed030's Note - They signed new contracts,Not moving to a new club in a new country. }

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07 Aug 2013 00:43:47
Just seen the latest Suarez comments. F*** him, if he wants to leave he should put in a transfer request. Offer him to every club outside the prem, someone will snap him up

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07 Aug 2013 00:38:32
Luis Suarez's comments changes nothing.
Luis Suarez wants to leave for a Champions League club.
Liverpool do not want to sell to a Premier League club.

So if a foreign club offers £50 million, then Liverpool will sell.

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06 Aug 2013 23:59:02
Oh dear eds I think you in for stressful 24 hours not abuse stressful, must say wot a first class pr::k! Next it will interview in the sun just to force it would not rule it out, feel for u eds
Ynwa

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06 Aug 2013 23:53:57
Just seen on ssn that Suarez is now saying the club has gone back on promises made verbally and in his contract about letting him leave. My concern is not what happens with this clown but how this circus is effecting what has been a positive preseason so far surely the club can do something to stop these outbursts and get back. To doing business behind closed doors I know he is trying to push for a move but I along with many fans now must be fed up with this farce that is being played out in public. Opinions?

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06 Aug 2013 23:50:24
Nice sentence from Suarez "I don't think the fans are unhappy they understand"

Do you?

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We understand that he`s a DF and needs to go IF the cash is right.

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I understand he is a mercenary jerk.

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06 Aug 2013 23:49:36
What a person Luis is. After the way the club has backed him, he goes and throws that support back in their face. He lacks class as a person. At least we know the real reason for missing the friendly - not man enough to make such comments when amongst his teammates and club officials. BR should have known better than to say Luis will not consider action against the club.

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06 Aug 2013 23:48:41
Any news on a replacement for Suarez?

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06 Aug 2013 23:48:18
Just a quickie, are we led to believe that Arsenal placed their 40+1 bid on pure hearsay in the press with no knowledge of any clauses in his contract?
Surely there has to be a case of tapping up to answer a la Ziege to LFC transfer?

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What do you mean tapping up? Arsenal simply put a transfer bid in for a player, just like LFC have done during this summer to other players. Either a bid is accepted or rejected or activates a clause. You are allowed to bid for players under contract or am I missing something?

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07 Aug 2013 00:48:41
Here's to Suarez for finally cutting the BS and manning up by giving his side without sounding like an arse.

Took too long, but now at least we can move on. Hopefully BR accepts it and who ever bids for him meets the demands of LFC.

As long as we get top "PLAYERS" in to replace him I think the supporters will get on with it. LFC certainly can't say now that we didn't have enough time to find players.

Players come and go, while he was here he has kept us in that top bracket of teams and like he said will make us slightly more than a 100% profit.

Time has come to dream how to spend that £50m

Rodgers I beg of you don't act like you don't know how to control yourself & don't be like Wenger either.

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Good post

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07 Aug 2013 00:43:11
expect any game time for coady this season if we don't get cover for lucas? {Ed030's Note - He's went on loan to Sheffield Utd. }

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He got 15 mins the other night and did OK for them. Nearly scored as well :)

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07 Aug 2013 00:28:48
brendan gave a 15 minute interview on irish radio tonight, talked about everything from suarez situation to how the players rest on the ball, and his childhood playing hulrling, nothing earth shattering but well worth listening to, if anyone wants hear it go to newstalk.ie, and click the listen back option for "off the ball show" part 2.

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07 Aug 2013 00:19:37
Kinda glad Suarez has declared that he wants to go. But, I'm sick of him acting like Liverpool owes him something. Submit a transfer request, and we will sell. I want you gone, just as many other Reds fans do. You were an exciting player to watch, but your antics and behavior was always in question. So, I'll remember you diving in front of Moyes. Other than that, adios.

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I agree. Put in a transfer request or shut up and quit whining like a spoilt little brat.

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07 Aug 2013 00:07:18
Suarez spoke to the Guardian saying he would like to leave because we promised him champions league football next year, and we have not achieved it. Ironically he's using the media he's cried so much about to get his way. Suarez is a rat and has repeatedly bitten the hand that feeds him. FSG is stuck in a very, very interesting spot right now because they have basically promised the Liverpool fans that they will not sell Suarez to Arsenal, but he cannot stay at the club any longer. If Arsenal end up being the only club in the race for Suarez I have no idea what they will do.

I can't for the life of me understand how players become so disrespectful and disloyal to the fans and cities that gave them everything they have. But regardless, we will take our attention somewhere else and keep focusing on the task at hand, reaching the Champions League. Really hope this sets a fire under our asses and we play with a little bit of spite next season and try to prove to Luis he has made a wrong decision.

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07 Aug 2013 00:06:25
my god saurez accusing the club of breach of contract is a bit rich, sell the plonker as soon as we get a proper offer!

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Absolutely nowhere in any of the articles I have read, has Luis Suarez accused the club of breach of contract. Stop writing utter gabarge {Ed002's Note - That is the foundation of his argument Brisbane.}

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07 Aug 2013 00:03:21
So rodgers says Liverpool are in control of the suarez situation and now he claims in his contract it states, the failure to reach champions league last season means he can go? What do you make of this eds? Has suarez got a case and if so what could happen? {Ed030's Note - He's trying to let his intentions be know in the press so he doesn't waver his bonuses. }

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It`s all about the money

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06 Aug 2013 23:59:49
Im incredulous at the wave of ambiguity over the Suarez 'clause'! Either there is a 40 million clause or there isn't? I know legaleze can be difficult to decipher sometimes but surely it doesn't need the Premier league to arbitrate? The contract wording should say it how it is, your telling me these Ivy League lawyers can't do what a GCSE law student could do in seconds. Why doesn't a journalist just ask JW Henry on the Scandinavian tour if this clause exists? I'm so tired of this whole saga now i'm losing the will to live. My heart wants him to rot in the reserves and my head wants us to take the ridiculously low 40 million pounds Arsenal are going to get him for. Makes my blood boil to think Bale is going for for 80 plus and the 3rd best player in the world is going for half that price. Why do we always get shafted in the transfer market? Why the hell can't any affluent Champions League team come to the fore and get themselves a bargain, just not Arsenal please not Arsenal. I have a feeling Chelsea are preparing a bid, just a hunch!

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06 Aug 2013 23:54:27
Well. the interview is out.
He's an absolute disgrace! I did like Arsenal as a team, but him there destroys that.
I hope we take there spot this year and he sulks all the way to another team.
Absolute disgrace, I hope they are out of Champions league nice and early if he joins them.
Even if he was promised he could leave, we will sell him, as long as someone neets his valuation. His small brain doesn't seem to be able to grasp that we are just trying to push his price up.
Reay do hate this guy

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06 Aug 2013 23:49:05
Has suarez handed in a transfer request eds? Or does he plan to? Things are getting very hectic now, do u expect glen, Agger and skrtel to stay?

YoungBaller {Ed030's Note - Not yet,He's trying to let his intentions be known through the press so he doesn't waver his bonuses,Possibly Skrtel could depart. }

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06 Aug 2013 23:46:11
Cut & pasted sorry

Luis Suárez has spoken for the first time about his desire to leave Liverpool with Arsenal the only club to have so far shown concrete interest in the striker.

The Uruguayan believes that he has an agreement with the Anfield club which allows him to leave for another Champions League side if they bid more than £40 million for his services.

Arsenal had a £40 million plus one pound offer turned down by Liverpool last month, but Suárez has now said that he will be forced to hand in a written transfer request if he is not allowed to move to the Emirates.

Arsenal finished in fourth place in the Premier League last season, 12 points ahead of Liverpool in seventh place.

Arsene Wenger's side have also appeared in the Champions League for each of the past 16 seasons whereas Liverpool last appeared in Europe's premier club competition in 2009-10.

However, Arsenal have never won the competition - they were runners-up to Barcelona in 2005-06 - and have not won a trophy of any description since lifting the FA Cup in 2005.

With this is in mind, would joining Arsenal be a good move for Suárez? {Ed030's Note - No. }

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Ed is right. Arsenal are not better than lfc. They play in the cl. We compete in the Cl. They haven`t won a pot in near a decade. Lfc has won 5 major trophies. Nuff said, mate!

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06 Aug 2013 23:19:21
A two part question for ed030 if he is around.

1.) Do you think, as of now, we have a good enough squad to finish top 4 this coming season?

2.) Would the signings of Costa, Papadopoulos and Eriksen be enough to get us into the top 4?

Cheers {Ed030's Note - Sure,Not yet 2 or 3 good additions then possibly,Yes mate,I think it would,Those are the positions I have identified as letting us down. }

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06 Aug 2013 23:43:08
lets keep our dignity and sell suarez as quick as possible and bring in players who can start the season after his recent outburst it game over.

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06 Aug 2013 23:39:51
On ssn now about Suarez saying Liverpool are in breach of contract. As soon as the team leaves he gives an full interview to the telegraph. This lad has no class whatsoever.

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06 Aug 2013 23:39:10
I am getting confused with the suarez situation he is claiming that Liverpool are breaching his contract by not letting him leave but the ed's say they want to get rid of him.What in the blue hell is up

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The club will want rid on there terms not his, really feel sorry for all those kids that looked up to him
Ynwa

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07 Aug 2013 01:43:14
i think it is a bit rich that suarez is complaining about broken promises

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Dignity and suarez don`t belong in the same sentence.

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06 Aug 2013 23:36:40
Arsenal transfers: Luis Suárez calls on Liverpool to 'honour' promise

"Last year I had the opportunity to move to a big European club and I stayed on the understanding that if we failed to qualify for the Champions League the following season I'd be allowed to go, " Suárez told the Guardian."I gave absolutely everything last season but it was not enough to give us a top-four finish - now all I want is for Liverpool to honour our agreement."He added: "I don't feel betrayed [by Liverpool] but the club promised me something a year ago just as I promised them that I would stay and try everything possible to get us into the Champions League."They gave me their word a year ago and now I want them to honour that. And it is not just something verbal with the coach but something that is written in the contract. I'm not going to another club to hurt Liverpool."

"My priority is Champions League football. This is about me doing what is right for my career at this moment in time, " he continued."Right now the Premier League is the biggest and most important league. My record shows that I'm not the kind of player who wants to change clubs every season and I would have no problem playing in England for many more years."If we are just talking about the level of the football and the way the supporters are then it is an incredible league. Any player in the world at the moment would like to play here."

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I thought he hated the UK and the media.

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06 Aug 2013 23:30:07
Omg is anyone seein wot this person is sayin? Makes me cringe. I wish we would just keep him for the 3 yrs an make him train with the youth team until his attitude changes. Pisses me off with his nasty attitude. Rant over

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06 Aug 2013 23:29:52
just read the Guardian Suarez interview and that's about it from me.I have believed that maybe we could hang on to the nasty little man but now he can just do one.To be honest I don't really care where to just go.

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06 Aug 2013 23:29:11
Has anyone heard about the situation in Anzhi? The billionaire is fed up and they're selling all their players. Wouldn't mind scooping up Ahmedov. Possibly Willian if Suarez goes?

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06 Aug 2013 23:29:10
so we know where LS went on the train saturday to give a interview to the london press and fake an injury and they release the story as soon as the team land in norway

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06 Aug 2013 23:27:50
Get suarez out now! I just read his latest interview saying Liverpool have broken promises and that they told him last year that he would b allowed to leave if they didn't get champs league. I really hope we get rid ASAP, I don't want to listen to this guy pissing and moaning for another season and to be honest if he goes to arsenal i'd nearly be happier so he can come to anfield and get the abuse he deserves! Even if he goes to arsenal I don't see them as a definate to get top 4 next season as I believe spurs and ourselves will really push on this season!
Cheers

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06 Aug 2013 23:22:24
Ed what do you make of the latest statement from LS tonight. I wish the club would just keep hitting him with fines everytime he opens his mouth. When is this going to end because it is becoming a joke now {Ed001's Note - it was only to be expected, he has no morals, hence why he spends his time claiming to be leaving because of the press, but is happy to give them an interview to engineer a move. I really have given up caring about him, he deserves nothing but contempt.}

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Right on, ed! He can go to hell.

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06 Aug 2013 23:18:29
Oh dear suarez.

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06 Aug 2013 23:07:56
Check out the Guardian guys. I think it's time we just got shut of Suarez but at the right price of course.

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06 Aug 2013 22:59:49
Looks like Suarez had been speaking to the press again the british press this tine that he hates so the Guardian and Telegraph will run interviews with Suarez late tonight or tomorrow!

Think the situation will become a lot clearer in the next 24hours!

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06 Aug 2013 21:14:33
Good evening ed01 & 2 hope all is well tonight! {Ed001's Note - all good thanks, hope it is all good with you too?}

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Indeed it is thank you mate :)

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06 Aug 2013 21:09:47
Ed how much did we sign coutinho for?
And how much did Southampton offer just wondering if were playing a dangerous game in the transfer market or is it the right way could have lost coutinho but got lucky dogging Clint Dempsey {Ed001's Note - less than £9m and they agreed the same price we did, he just chose not to join them.}

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06 Aug 2013 21:01:56
Hi eds, love the site and all the hard work put in.
Just wondered apart from Ibe (who looks good so far) who do you think will be given any form of first team action from the academy this year? we all love seeing young reds making a debut especially the local lads.

Cheers in advance {Ed001's Note - impossible to say, depends on injuries, but Texeira looks ahead of the pack.}

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06 Aug 2013 22:46:34
so with Henry buying the Boston Globe from the NY Times for $70m, I guess we can make the assumption that we DO HAVE MONEY TO COMPETE - our problem is we don't ATTRACT THE BEST ANYMORE. We have to bring talent in and MAKE IT GREAT. Brendan's got a tough job ahead of him, but we should get behind him - I know that FSG are behind the project and in it for the long run. YNWA

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07 Aug 2013 00:32:08
John Henry's money is not LFC's money.

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07 Aug 2013 05:39:58
Anything they give us counts as a loan and has to be repaid I believe, thus putting us in ffp trouble,
Am I right eds? {Ed001's Note - depends on what the money put in is used for. There are numerous things that are exempt from the FFP rules, such as stadiums.}

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