Liverpool Banter Archive December 07 2010

 

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07 Dec 2010 23:52:30
Skytel is a Liability in defence

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07 Dec 2010 23:47:51
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Roy doing a better job, are you for real . which part of the job is he doing better?
And why do you think our squad was stronger last year . its the same players minus masch .

- -Yea not only that, minus Benayoun (arguably our best player last season), also no Agger and injuries to Carra and Stevie and an unpredictable Torres.

Rafa knew the the squad and worked with the players for a long time.
Roy just came in, and he had to convince Torres & Stevie to stay. He also had to deal with Macherano's refusal to play.
Roy brought in new players and had to gel the squad together and get his plan through.(I know Konchesky and Poulsen are s* t- - but you don't expect a man to get 100% of his decisions right, do you?)
Roy also had to deal with the Texan Cowboys and the time when administration seemed inevitable.)

And now everything has changed in the club, only in 4 months.

When you wake up in the morning after a bad hangover, how'd you feel? It takes some time to feel alright.

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07 Dec 2010 23:44:23
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If we are looking for back-up for Glen Johnson I believe the man is Miguel from Valencia, he had a solid game tonight. Juan Mata looked like an exciting prospect too when he came on.

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07 Dec 2010 23:38:38
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Gerrard to play right midfield because of the good form of lucas and raul meireles.

Ed thoughts? {ed's note - I think it would be the best option, keep the team together for now, the minute either Lucas or Meireles aren't performing Stevie can be switched central to replace whichever isn't playing well. It is about time we got back to all the players fearing for their place.}

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07 Dec 2010 23:31:55
07 Dec 2010 21:36:19
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Just been watching the Valencia V United Match, United Have 12 Players on, Gary Neville (Ratboy) just ran on.

ha ! I shouted pitch invasion, no one got it :/

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07 Dec 2010 23:13:59
Im a solid reds fan, and have my doubts about a number of players and their true value to team and performance on and off the pitch.

We have moved forwards in the past couple of games, don't get me wrong I never want to see the heart and soul of the team in Gerrard and co do anything but stay with us but we need to utilise them better.

I think that the 'team' has played much more as a unit while Stevie has been out. Mireles (spelling) seems to be finding his feet in the middle and Lucas who was roundly lambasted until recenty is begining to show some form too. All in all there is too much play through Stevie and the predictability of that lays too much pressure on one to perform. It looked so much better watching the team spread play and open the door in a through a variety of players. Granted Villa are hardly the toughest of opposition, but surely this is a sign that too much through one players much too easy to counter.

We need to have a few more games with the 'squad' delivering and the front men offering more to the fans than they have until recently. This should build individual confidence and relieve SG to employ that spectacular flair in bursts that change games, not the tired and strained game we have seen recently.

As for Carra, the diety that he is, please make this your last season and get your hand in on the management side as soon as you can. Open the door to the youngters and let them begin to shine as you have. No football fan in the world will forget the performace in Istanbul, how could they, but please ply your tallent into the new generation and the venerated corridors of power that is Liverpool, your spirit is better served off the field to inspire some of the undeniable young tallent we have defensively.

Just hope that Roy has the sence to keep blooding the younger players and draw them through, teams are built that way. Thank * *k H&G have gone and that dozey saboteur Benitez are out of the picture so that we can build a squad for the next generation, our competition are - so should we. .

Honda please, open that Asian market
Wickham, one for the future but no more than £8 otherwise the risk is too great.

Here's hoping for a good run and a top 6 being realistic!

YNWA

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07 Dec 2010 23:13:28
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Its true at 30 he may have not lost the''magic'', he may also still be able to shift shirts.But here's why he should'nt play for LFC, he's lost the hunger for the game its not how big the dog is in the fight but how big the fight is in the dog. Last thing we need is another ''superstar'' who does'nt want to put in a shift on a Saturday

i think he'd do well for us, i hope we do get him hed bring in the money from merchandise all round the world, and he will assist alot and score u goals k might not bag tons of goals but he will provide the strikers or if hes partnered up front with a striker hed set him up alot of the time

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07 Dec 2010 22:58:31
I like the way we play at home its very good to watch recently

but the away play is terrible why not just set the team up to play the same way away from home

stupid idea i know but worth a go

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07 Dec 2010 22:55:28
LFC's transfer policies are confusing. We have been told that NESV are only interested in young talent and quality signings.
We have now been linked to late 20's and early 30's players? What is really happening at LFC?

they do want to invest in young talent, , but they will also buy experienced stars too to add balance but the young talent is what they will buy more of, , so for the experience too u need players in there late 20's and 30 years old
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what can i say we are liverpool we will be linked to every tom dick and harry we always do

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07 Dec 2010 22:49:12
I wish the site would get updated a bit more frequently. Ive been waiting an hour, Im off to bed. {ed's note - sorry mate I have a job and a life as well as the site to think of.}

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07 Dec 2010 22:44:25
Cant help but notice liverpool are second favourites to win the europa league after manchester city (who i think will flop at some point in this competition). 10.5 is good odds in my opinion. Even at this early stage. Napoli at 55 is definitely worth a punt as well.

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07 Dec 2010 22:41:02
Alonso was in the crowd last night maybe he will make the move back to anfield I can't think of any other reason why he would be there.

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You're completely right! Him playing for us for 5 seasons and having a lot of friends at the club still playing for us had nothing to do with it!

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07 Dec 2010 22:37:16
Roy is seemingly turning it around, Slowly. A few more performances like this and we will have to start chanting his name!
Alot of people will say we only beat a poor Villa side. True, but you can only beat what's infront of you. He has taken a beating on here this season, and rightly so. But if he can take the blame, then its only fair that he should be credited now that things are starting to go right. Keep that ball rolling Roy, this 3 points will mean nothing if we don't win the next game.

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07 Dec 2010 22:22:43
07 Dec 2010 18:52:51
07 Dec 2010 18:06:58
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First time ive bin on since the match, i'd like to say that lucas is winnin me over more an more each time he plays, he, for me was the best player on the pitch last nite

what dya reckon ed? {ed's note - he is without a shadow of a doubt our most improved player and with his attitude I am glad, he deserves it.}
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MAN OF THE MATCH IN MY OPINION.

couldn't agree more i thought lucas was excellent last night and has impproved no end this season.worked his socks off, gave less fouls away and looked forward quicker and tried to get us moving forward. i like most had had enough of him but i take everything back as he is turning into a proper liverpool player, hard working. skillful with the right attitude.playing alongside him could be the bargain of the season at 11million merielles(spelling) looks and is a quality player don't remember him misplacing a pass all game just need him to bag a goal or two and we have a top top quality player. on the roy debate i like most don't think he is the right man but slowly i can see improvement in the team, the way we are playing and the performance against spurs was probably our best although we lost i thought we played well and to follow that with a 3-0 win against villa shows signs of improvement especially without carra, stevie and torres, so lets give roy a little more backing and see what he can do as i think he is here for the season. next few games will show where we are at and roys mentality we have to go to newcastle win then fulham at home 6 points there and we should be 5th or 6th and putting pressure on those above looking down thinking sh* e liverpool are coming and we might just nick 4th by the end of the season(i know eternal optomist. . . . but why not with a couple of top signings coming in january).
bigg2966

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07 Dec 2010 22:14:53
Some more good names, german, kuntz, newcastle, brian pinas, potugese keeper quim, paraguayan arce, czech defender milan fukal, bernt haas, paul dickove, imagine roy standing in the tech area shouting to them youd think he had tourettes, jimmybosun, ps have to go now, matron will be round soon and ive still got the pencils out, lol

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07 Dec 2010 22:07:34
David N'Gog needs to get on the weights. Without a shadow, a stone of muscle in the right departments would improve his game three fold. If he was to develop his off the mark pace, he would possess similarities to Terry Henry. Utd did it with Ronaldo and its clear they've done the same with Nani and his games improved dramatically over the past two seasons.

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07 Dec 2010 22:06:45
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"The Madness of King Roy V"

Nice to see Houliier respecting the club's traditions last night.
Still have a bit of a soft spot for him.
He is entitled to more credit than many give now give him.

Champions' League:
The madness rolls on (this is a similar comment to my one in TMOKR3 . . .
I see Spurs mentioned after tonight's CL results.
They now go into the draw.
What a joke!
Seeding is bad enough, but we are now plagued with insults that suggest we reallty belive it is a 'draw.'
"Spurs can't draw anyone else from their own country or group."
Why not say: "Spurs can't draw anyone from their own country, any tema they have faced in the initial rounds, anyone that has a player who used to play in the Premier League, any team from a country that any of their players or management have visited on holiday in the past three years and finally, they cannot draw anyone from a country that is likely to beat them and deprive our sponsors of the semi-finals (Real Madrid v Man Utd and Barcelona v Inter Milan) they are trying so hard to arrange."
In that case, Spurs go into the draw of 32 teams knowing they will only have 3 teams they do have to face - and they will given the weakest teams possible to ensure their progress!
Madness.
Rigged games.
Rigged draws.
This is NOT free football.

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07 Dec 2010 22:05:53
My best 1st 11 if there's no injury
GK reina CB carragher agger RB johnson LB aurelio MF lucas meireles RW gerrard LW babel CF torres ngog
or 4-3-3 reina DF johnson kelly agger aurelio MF gerrard lucas meireles ATTACK torres ngog babel.
In jan; GK reina DF johnson cahil agger aurelio MF lucas meireles RW gerrard LW honda ST ronaldinho/ dempsey/ hazard CF torres.
Sell;poulsen, konchesky, greek, maxi, kuyt.jovanovic, skrtel
Bench;jones, aquilani, kelly, babel, suso, ngog, insua, pacheco, wilson, darby, spearing, shelvy, jcole, amoo.
PROUD KOPTITE

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07 Dec 2010 22:02:54
RIGHT LADS
Reina
johnson kelly Skrtel Fabs
Stevie Raul Lucas
babel n'gog
torres
Right ed I am desperate for us to play 3 strikers in babel ngog and torres however i don't want to lose stevie raul or lucas. 4-3-3 made the most sense to me.
Brilliant team all performing well also with babel and ngog playing well would give nando a little smack round the head telling him to get a little sharper but i've got no doubt itll come back look at his goal agaisnt wigan and the chelsea double 3 points at the toon and we could be 6th come saturday!
COULD be doubt it though.

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07 Dec 2010 21:52:07
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Hello, first post here - I'm one of those reasonable, not knee-jerk reactionary fans. Got a few wee issues - Why do people here post 433 formations as our ideal side/ line-up? We play 442 now and long may it continue. Hodgson said last night that 'this shape is serving us well', and I agree.

Our team for Newcastle should be -

Reina
Johnson Kelly(soto if fit) Skrtel Konchesky

Gerrard Lucas Meireles Maxi R

N'Gog Torres

subs- Jones, Wilson, Aurelio, Poulson, Cole, Kuyt, Babel

The defence should pick itself. Lucas & Meireles have worked great together our CM looks like a unit. Gerrard for Kuyt is borne of necessity. . Kuyt is not a winger, its getting embarrassing, but I'm sure Roy is aware of this. Maxi has made the LW his own, great goalscoring record recently and seems to work well with Torres there. N'Gog should start with Torres, I'm a Babel fan (and not just 'cos of last night) but think him and Nando are too similar to play together as both tend to drift wide. The bench covers all eventualities. Even Dirk and Cole's lack of pace is somewhat tempered when brought on to play on the flanks as subs, when the opposition are tired. Looking forward to the Transfer window! Pacey RW please! (Gervinho? Hazard in my dreams!)a pacey LW (N'Zogbia?) would be nice too, to compete with Maxi. Kuyts gotta go I'm afraid, as will Jova. Poulsen will still have a role to play until a new young DM is found (Spearing?? dunno). I'd love a young LB to compete with Konchesky (Sissokho!) and a good young RB to battle Johnson (any ideas ed?). I think Kelly is a fine RB but his future is at CB as is Wilson's - we don't need a new CB - Agger, Carra, Skrtel and Soto are all still here. So Kelly could be our RB as FT chances are slim when all are fit (barring the current CB injury list!). Finally we need a powerful CF who brings others into the game/ holds up the ball to compete with N'Gog. I'm told Dzeko is the man, but I've not really seen him. I'd love Suarez from Ajax myself. He links the play well and scores a lot too obv. Or Huntelaar, always liked him - off the boil for a while, could be a bargain!
Benzema is a dream, but his character is suspect a-la Balotelli/ Cassano. Very long post (sorry) I love the site and keep up the good work! It better get printed. .took an hour!
Gimme your thoughts people! !

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07 Dec 2010 21:52:00
07 Dec 2010 21:46:10
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LFC's transfer policies are confusing. We have been told that NESV are only interested in young talent and quality signings.
We have now been linked to late 20's and early 30's players? What is really happening at LFC?

they do want to invest in young talent, , but they will also buy experienced stars too to add balance but the young talent is what they will buy more of, , so for the experience too u need players in there late 20's and 30 years old

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07 Dec 2010 21:46:43
Thank you very much for the anfield fanni thank you very much thank you very very very much, thank you very much for the anfield fanni thank you very very very much,
i would love to see linda pettuti singing that, loljimmybosun, can anyone else come up with any gooduns,

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07 Dec 2010 21:46:10
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LFC's transfer policies are confusing. We have been told that NESV are only interested in young talent and quality signings.
We have now been linked to late 20's and early 30's players? What is really happening at LFC?

I think we shall all really find out in January 2011, who lfc are targetting. I would hope for Honda, Hazard, Llorente, contreo and a central defender.

Wipi

I am not in the know, but I can tell you that at the Red Sox's unveiling of Adrien Gonzalez, which is being considered a major coup by anyone who knows about baseball, Mr. Henry sat next to the twenty-eight year-old (which is prime age for baseball) with a grin on his face. The Sox signed him for 7 years / $150 million (bonus+wages). The Red Sox fill their stadium regardless, yet they went for a major star in his prime and paid premium price for him. Henry said that NESV's track record spoke for itself and this week we saw another example of it. I said it before, I won't believe any rumour until January comes and goes because they frustrate me endlessly. However, I have not been this excited about Liverpool FC's IMMEDIATE future in a long time. I think we will be pleasently surprised more than once.

Olivier

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07 Dec 2010 21:36:19
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Just been watching the Valencia V United Match, United Have 12 Players on, Gary Neville (Ratboy) just ran on.

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07 Dec 2010 21:28:47
"and roy is doing a better job so far this season than rafa did at this point last year and he had a stronger squad NO."

Roy doing a better job, are you for real . which part of the job is he doing better?
And why do you think our squad was stronger last year . its the same players minus masch , but meireles seems to be a good replacement. last year we started the season with half the squad injured .
We've beaten a very bad Villa side . please come back Saturday evening after we have dropped 2 points to a newcastle side in a mess.
(And no I don't wish we draw, I would like us to win, but Roy would think a draw at newcastle is a good result)
Roy

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07 Dec 2010 21:25:38
Just watching Valencia against Utd and I have to say that Mata and Banega are pure class. Not sure we need Banega, but Mata would be an instant favorite in a Liverpool shirt. He does everything on the pitch, what a player!

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07 Dec 2010 21:23:42
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Ed, if we do sign fanni I can't wait to hear the songs we come up with! This might sound childish but I'm only 14!

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07 Dec 2010 21:11:47
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Team against Newcastle;

Reina

Johnson Kelly Skrtel Konchesky

Gerrard Meireles Lucas Maxi

Babel
Torres

Subs;
Jones
Aurelio
Kyrgiakos
Cole
Poulsen
Jovanovic
Kuyt

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07 Dec 2010 21:09:34
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Rafa used to be amazing in europe, hes really struggling at inter (current champions) whats that about? what you reckon ed, to many attacking players at inter and he can't get them to play defensively? {ed's note - possibly mate, though Jose had no problems doing that.}

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07 Dec 2010 20:53:12
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Great job last night. . . but can we all stop getting alittle ahead of our selves, we beat chelsea then dropped points against wigan and stoke, we beat a very poor villa side last nite and that will count for nothing if we don't get all 3 points against newcastle. sorry 2 be a downer, but we need to put a decent run of results before we all starting thinking about giving roy a knighthood, and making lucas captain. ed am i being misrable or realistic? {ed's note - maybe both? It is true we need to start getting away wins, no point winning at home if we then go and lose away.}

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07 Dec 2010 20:49:16
I'm not the first person to say this tonight, but id love to hear the crowd sing roys name at st james park on saturday, we need the team and the manager to know were behind them 100% i think roys earned it, rafa was having his name sung week in week out until the final game of last season, and roy is doing a better job so far this season than rafa did at this point last year and he had a stronger squad NO.

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07 Dec 2010 20:38:52
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I can see Ronaldinho signing possibly but its unlikely, Ronaldo from Corinthians is a no go, he is retiring in the summer so LFC are hardly going to get him for 6 months are they.

Looking at last night we have better midfielders already than Ireland.

Wickham is ridiculous for 10 million, he is going to be a player but 10 million when he is likely to be in the reserves for a season or so is pointless, let him mature at Ipswich, nobody will pay 10 million for him so we are in no rush.

Babel looked good up top so why sell him at a knock down price and buy someone like Cleo for simiar money when he is probably worse.

We are far better off getting a winger like Johnson from City, a ball winning midfielder like either of the Diarra's from Madrid and an attacker like Honda or Ronaldinho, someone with a bit of magic!

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07 Dec 2010 20:35:08
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The guy dominguez is running the game against the scum !

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07 Dec 2010 20:34:19
I read a lot of posts about Gerrard lining up at right midfield. I thought Gerrard did not want to play right mid (the position he was most productive at uinder Benitez) which I believe to be one of the ain reasons for Liverpool's problems. The way I see it, if Gerrard plays right mid, Liverpool only need one winger to cover the left side. Ed, can you confirm whether Gerrard has said he did not want to play on the right? Personally, I believe that with his ability, he would change the whole dynamic of the team by playing wide. Lucas and Meireles would look even better.
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i agree that in the past gerrard has done a decent shift out wide, the only problem is, as shown with england when put out on the left, he tends to drift inside looking for the ball, if he did this on the right it would leave us wide open, as johnson likes to get forward and would leave him exposed when defending, which he struggles with at times anyway. gerrard is considerd one of the best central midfielders in the world, maybe we should play him in his most influential position.

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07 Dec 2010 20:31:12
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Just googled rollers and ferraris there cars! ! ! ha ha

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07 Dec 2010 20:30:20
Is Cleo the standard of player we should be going after? ?

He looks red hot to me mate, why does everybody insist on going out and paying 20-30 million on other clubs top players.
we need to be unearthing great young talent like arsenal, or building a team with quality players who are not directly in the spotlight playing for europes biggest teams, mirelles was only 11 million quality player.
there are some amazing players out there and fortunatly for us their true potential has not been realised, that's what decent scounts are for.

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07 Dec 2010 20:25:52
Firstly, i think i was watching a different Meireles to everyone else last night. Whilst agreeing he is an excellent purchase, he gave the ball away too cheaply, too many times last night and i thought he had one of his poorer games in the middle because of this.

Bob the Red! Your right mate, you must have been watching a different Meireles. I can't remember him giving the ball away much at all. I thought he kept the ball moving quite well without having a killer pass or assist.

The Irish Rover

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07 Dec 2010 20:18:22
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LFC's transfer policies are confusing. We have been told that NESV are only interested in young talent and quality signings.
We have now been linked to late 20's and early 30's players? What is really happening at LFC?

I think we shall all really find out in January 2011, who lfc are targetting. I would hope for Honda, Hazard, Llorente, contreo and a central defender.

Wipi

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07 Dec 2010 20:09:41
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Ed if these rod fanni rumours are true ( which i don't think they are ) then why are we buying another right back? we have glen johnson and the quality youngster in martin kelly , so there is no need for another rb , unless johnson might be leaving? i hope not! i know this fanni bloke can play CB but i would expect someone a bit better if we are gonna buy another cb , someone bit younger e.g Sahko shawcross , even though we have quality youngsters in ayala and wilson. Surely we must be losing a cb if we are going to buy another one? with agger soto skrtel carra wilson ayala and someone else surely there would be too much compeition for CB even though i know carra is out until feb and agger is also injured , but once all fit there would be too much competition?

DLG {ed's note - I think it is very likely that Darby will be moving on and Kelly is a centre back who is covering at right back. That is why a right back is being looked at, Johnson is the only senior right back at the club. Personally I think we have far more pressing concerns than a right back, but I am not the manager or the director of buying cheap young footballers or whatever it is Comolli does.}

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07 Dec 2010 20:06:58
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Team in a few years could be our youth team now
Reina
Kelly Cahil Wilson Mavinga
Gerrard Shelvy Suso
Eccleston Ngog Pacheco

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07 Dec 2010 20:04:45
Last nite was the best defensive display by glen johnson ive seen all season

ed your thoughts? {ed's note - I don't think Villa possessed any real threat to be fair, impossible to judge his defensive display.}
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Yes agree he is over his dodgy spell, defended well, goal threat, superb player

the last couple of games hes looked better but really did he defend that well what was he up against

its to do with his hair he can concentrate on the ball and not is f***ing hair

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07 Dec 2010 20:03:07
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Had a browse through Koptalk to see what the fuss was about. It seems that Jimmy five bellies has finally found himself a job as editor. Will he be paying for Gazzas rehab?

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07 Dec 2010 19:53:28
Is Cleo the standard of player we should be going after? ?

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07 Dec 2010 19:16:53
Hope we can stay within 7/ 8 points of the top 4 up to january, then sign 2 maybe 3 quality signings during january then we will be dangerous.

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07 Dec 2010 19:11:04
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WTF ed? are we blaming suarez for his diving . . please look at all the players in premier league! ! including gerrard? didn't he dive alot to get penalties. yes he did . so how unsportive is he?
dont point at one player. . because there are many unsportive players , included liverpool players {ed's note - I am not sure what unsportive means, perhaps you mean unsporting? If you read back you will find that I am as against Gerrard diving as anyone else diving, it is never right in my opinion. I fail to see your point at all, are you complaining because a cheat is being called a cheat?}

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07 Dec 2010 18:59:41
07 Dec 2010 18:08:24
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Last nite was the best defensive display by glen johnson ive seen all season

ed your thoughts? {ed's note - I don't think Villa possessed any real threat to be fair, impossible to judge his defensive display.}
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Yes agree he is over his dodgy spell, defended well, goal threat, superb player

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07 Dec 2010 18:53:11
Firstly cannot waste Gerrard on the right play him alongside or just behind torres keep the faith with mireless and lucaswith 2 good widemen that should be enough to see off any team.

Babel did play well in the last 2 games but continues to play for himself he just can't see a pass or when he does the opportunity has gone sell him

think the johnson twins would look good on either wing kelly to RB although he looked more confident last night at CB then we just need to sort out LB and we have a winning team

TC

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07 Dec 2010 18:52:51
07 Dec 2010 18:06:58
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First time ive bin on since the match, i'd like to say that lucas is winnin me over more an more each time he plays, he, for me was the best player on the pitch last nite

what dya reckon ed? {ed's note - he is without a shadow of a doubt our most improved player and with his attitude I am glad, he deserves it.}
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MAN OF THE MATCH IN MY OPINION.

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07 Dec 2010 18:40:22
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Alonso was in the crowd last night maybe he will make the move back to anfield I can't think of any other reason why he would be there

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07 Dec 2010 18:32:04
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Good to see Ngog improving like he is. Used to have a first touch like The 2010 Kuyt!

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07 Dec 2010 18:28:58
RE: Ronaldinho link. Do we really need another central attacking player in our team? We already have Joe Cole, Steven Gerrard and argueably Maxi.

Firstly ronaldinho is a striker not an attacking midfielder, secondly joe cole has never, and will never be a central attacking midfielder/ second striker or the player in the hole, unfortunatly joe's over inflated ego means he thinks he is, JC is a winger, right midfielder allways has been always will be he's also one of the most frustrating players ive ever seen play,
at the time it seemed like great business to get him on a free but unfortunatly i can't see a use for him in the team apart from being squad player

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07 Dec 2010 18:28:50
I have just read bable lacks work rate and to be fair yes in the past he has been lazy and mardy and honestly i think i would be the same then again if i was him i would have moved on by now and proved a point to liverpool at a diff club any way back to my point yes he has been lazy in the past but last night i thought he worked his socks off and really did try to put the effort in he also played with a smile on his face which is nice to see any player do. give till jan as a striker no good then sell, if he finally proves his worth keep him simple as that i want to see all liverpool players succeed for us no matter how bad their past performances have been.

redchris

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07 Dec 2010 18:19:23
Well, along with many supporters I wasn`t too keen on Roy to say the least but after the recent performances with the exception of the stoke game he is winning me over! Lucas has actually turned into a top player and I wouldn`t have said that last season! Meirelas is pure quality and we are starting to play attractive football which we haven`t seen for many a year so come on guys and dolls lets sing roys name at the next match! We have for every other manager and with a couple of quality signings in Jan who knows? maybe, just maybe Roy may turn out to be the best since Shanks given how hard it is to win things at this present time with the citys etc! like me, eat your words and get behind Roys boys! COME ON YOU RED MEN!

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07 Dec 2010 18:16:39
Last nite was the best defensive display by glen johnson ive seen all season

ed your thoughts? {ed's note - I don't think Villa possessed any real threat to be fair, impossible to judge his defensive display.}

So stuart downings not a threat on the wing?? ED please credit where credits Due the teams looking good, we got hammered by blackpool any premiereship team has the tools to be a threat yes even villa, agbonlahor, downing crew, allbrighton {ed's note - Downing has to be given the ball to be a threat.}

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07 Dec 2010 18:15:59
People are talking about Lucas improving, but lets not forget how much progress David N'Gog is making. His run on the counter attack, and his pass to Maxi for the goal was excellent. He's quicker than I thought he was aswell. And he's got a great touch, and good tecnique. And he works really hard also.

Credit to him. And he's scoring a few goals also.

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07 Dec 2010 18:15:55
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07 Dec 2010 18:08:52
Liverpool Rumours
How are the honda rumours goin?

ed? {ed's note - they are still floating around, but it is hard to be sure what is going on, I did try keeping an eye on Japanese press just in case, but I was getting so many reports about Honda cars instead I gave up!}

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try using his first name! Keisuke {ed's note - I have done mate, but you get a lot of reports still involving Honda cars, when you translate them you usually find it is the name of a race driver or something. Quite frustrating to say the least!}

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07 Dec 2010 18:15:05
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I have been saying for years kuyt is useless he can't cross pass control or shoot in fact i believe he is just a marathon runner who recognised there was more money in football, i will never criticise his work rate and attitude they are both fantastic but technique is not good enough i would rather see eccleston on the right he looks hungry and athletic probably would cause defenders a few more problems than kuyt or johnson on wing and kelly right back. for game against newcastle i would keep same team that beat villa but make a change on the right using either of the 2 options mentioned and leave it up to gerrard and torres to come on and prove they deserve their places also would like to see bable and torres up front why not give it a go if not working can always change it.

redchris

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07 Dec 2010 18:13:40
All credit to the team. to roy . things seem to be maybe coming together. and am i glad to see the revival. long may it continue

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Cheers. Did you have a good hol?

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chris 1

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07 Dec 2010 18:08:24
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Last nite was the best defensive display by glen johnson ive seen all season

ed your thoughts ? {ed's note - I don't think Villa possessed any real threat to be fair, impossible to judge his defensive display.}

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07 Dec 2010 18:06:58
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First time ive bin on since the match, i'd like to say that lucas is winnin me over more an more each time he plays, he, for me was the best player on the pitch last nite

what dya reckon ed? {ed's note - he is without a shadow of a doubt our most improved player and with his attitude I am glad, he deserves it.}

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07 Dec 2010 18:05:24
In all fairness I am a fan of babel but you have this all wrong. He started against Bucharest and got an assist, didn't score and against Villa he was offside and the ball hit his nose as it was coming down so he was really lucky. Technically he didn't score in either

Dont be daft. Of course he scored against Villa. It was a good strike and a good goal. Yes he was off side but you take all the luck you can in this world.
EST.1892

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07 Dec 2010 18:01:02
Wait no watch him tomorrow vs arsenal i got it wrong sorry

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07 Dec 2010 17:59:36
Cleo is decent not a starter but for 10 odd million hes better than most of the waste men in the Premiership! he's quite like Adebayor except hes not a total nooooooooooooob! Watch him tonight vs Arsenal

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07 Dec 2010 17:58:44
07 Dec 2010 17:28:03
RE: Ronaldinho link. Do we really need another central attacking player in our team? We already have Joe Cole, Steven Gerrard and argueably Maxi.

ronaldinho is also a striker too so yeah he would be an asset

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07 Dec 2010 17:48:36
Liverpool Rumours
Lets take advantage of the economic thing in Spain and get Antoine Griezman from Real Sociedad.

I've seen him playing when Sociedad have been on TV against Atletico Madrid and Atletic Bilbao, and he has given them both the run around. £7m would be a nice fee. He's been linked with Arsenal and Man Utd so I hope we just don't sit around like bafoons and let someone else snap him up.

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07 Dec 2010 17:45:38
My first 11 with the current roster all fit would be

- - - - - - - - - - - - Reina- - - - - - - - - - - - - -Johnson- - -Carragher- - - - - -Agger- - - - Konchesky
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- - - - - - Gerrard- - - - - - Meirelles- - - - - - - - -
- - - - - Kuyt- - - - -Torres- - - -Cole- - - - - - - -

Not bad mate but Kuyts having a realy bad time of things he was terrible last night, we realy need a left and right winger in, a striker, Aqua back in jan and ayala back in jan
things are looking up lets just hope NESV show us the$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

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07 Dec 2010 17:41:30
Liverpool Rumours
I realy think NESV are gonna spend pretty big in january,
Roys also begining to win me over, i think the teams looking a lot more balanced and their starting to play some decent stuff, hes got lucas playing realy well and mirelles looks like the real deal.
I think 4 realy good singings and were pretty much there, if mirelles is anything to go by im fairly confident RH can deliver some good buys, konchesky's not doing bad and as much as everybody seems to hate him poulson hasnt done that bad, bear in mind hes only a squad palyer he didn't pay that much for him and he has a wealth of experience.
And no way is Cant control coming to the club.
Im amazed also at how many people think a different manager would of come in and done a better job than what RH has done with the team, in the situation the club was in at the time, didn't help mash going when and how he did, if aqua comes back i think the loan will of been a great success giving roy the chance to evaluate him, if not i think roy made a massive mistake letting him go.
Cant wait for jan 1st
things are looking up, totaly agree with ed about o'driscoll, maybe even coyle a young british manager to take the club to the next step.

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07 Dec 2010 17:29:57
My first 11 with the current roster all fit would be

- - - - - - - - - - - - Reina- - - - - - - - - - - - - -Johnson- - -Carragher- - - - - -Agger- - - - Konchesky
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- - - - - - Gerrard- - - - - - Meirelles- - - - - - - - -
- - - - - Kuyt- - - - -Torres- - - -Cole- - - - - - - -

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07 Dec 2010 17:28:03
RE: Ronaldinho link. Do we really need another central attacking player in our team? We already have Joe Cole, Steven Gerrard and argueably Maxi.

And now we have a big dilema as Lucas and Meireles are forming a great partnership in the centre.

We don't want to be sticking central players out wide like we're doing with Joe Cole, Maxi, Meireles (previously) and possibly Gerrard. We already lack width, and the only one out wide who has the pace to beat full-backs is Glen Johnson and we can't depend on him all the time.

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07 Dec 2010 17:28:02
07 Dec 2010 16:05:05
Liverpool Rumours
Babel has finally been given his chance last 2 games, and he scored in boht (as a striker), he will continue to play until jan. a decision willl then be made to keep or sell, if he comes good there would be no reason to sell the guy!

Me14


In all fairness I am a fan of babel but you have this all wrong. He started against Bucharest and got an assist, didn't score and against Villa he was offside and the ball hit his nose as it was coming down so he was really lucky. Technically he didn't score in either

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07 Dec 2010 17:24:52
Reina
Kelly
Aurelio
Agger
Skrtel
Meireles
Gerrard
Johnson
Torres
Cole
Ngog

Jones, Lucas, Kuyt, Jovanovic, Maxi, Kyrgiakos, Carragher, Pacheco

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07 Dec 2010 17:09:59
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I for one will be devasted if Lucas joins another club, he is one of the best CM in the prem and it would be such a waste if we was to let him go.
Id like to see aguero and reyes in he is back on top form.AW YNWA

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07 Dec 2010 17:07:31
Reina
JohnsonCarraAggerAurelio
GerrardLucasMeirelesMaxi
TorresNgog

Jones
Kelly
Skrtl
Cole
Babel
Jova
Shelvey
. . can't remember how many subs you get in the prem.

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07 Dec 2010 17:03:30
What is your best Liverpool eleven and formation with the current squad?

Ed thoughts? {ed's note - with the currently fit players or the overall current squad?}

Both if you want ed. :)
{Editor's note - Not the Liverpool Ed but I would go with. Reina, Kelly, Agger, Skrylt, Koncheskey, Mierles and Lucas in the centre, Gerrard on the right and cole on the left, with Torres and Ngog up top}

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07 Dec 2010 16:53:07
What is your best Liverpool eleven and formation with the current squad?

RIENA
CARRAGHER
AGGER
JOHNSON
AURELIO
MEIRELES
GERRARD
RODRIGUES
COLE
NGOG
TORRES

SUBS
JONES
SKRTEL
KELLY
LUCAS
KUYT
PACHECO
BABELEST.1892

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07 Dec 2010 16:38:34
What is your best Liverpool eleven and formation with the current squad?

Ed thoughts? {ed's note - with the currently fit players or the overall current squad?}

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07 Dec 2010 16:33:22
Liverpool Rumours
Ed, i heard that we could be signing fanni in the next 48 hours, do u think this is true? {ed's note - I am not convinced, he is not young and would be outside of NESV's stated ideas on players.}


NO WOMEN ALLOWED HA HA

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07 Dec 2010 16:31:46
So then uccm gerrard would cover for Johnson in defence when he gets forward then! Would u not rather see Johnson on the rm and gerrard in the middle instead of Lucas and Kelly at rb?

Lavers

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07 Dec 2010 16:30:45
Liverpool Rumours
I for one would love llorente and Honda in January, as it would show the fans, that our owners mean business.If it happened, I would play Gerrard on the right as well. No one can deliver the ball better from the wide position than him for Llorente and Torres to attack.Honda can play left and Lucas and Raul in the middle as they are starting to form a tasty partnership.What do you think Ed? I know what your going to say, not going to happen. In the words of Keegan, " I would love it, if that happened. Love it. {ed's note - I think Gerrard is the best crosser of the ball we have at the club and was always excellent from the right. But he wasn't keen on playing there and he would only sulk if asked to play there regulalry, it won't happen I am afraid.}

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07 Dec 2010 16:26:34
JOEY BARTON
look lads and editor you need to stop slagging joey off, everybody knows someone like joe in liverpool, i know all the family and they are just typical scousers, he has a problem with his temper that's true he was always the same even as a kid, it didn't stop everton or man city giving him a go,
this is a rumours site and banter site, how would you like it if your son or brother was getting slated by your own? i know he has let himself down several times but unless he starts punching our players i say leave him alone, he is short of being a top player but he is still a good prem player and whatever he gets up he gets punished for not like the sly stamping on of players and diving around like a girl some players do, also he does get more than his share of kicks and fouls against him that go unpunished by refs i don't care who agrees or not but why are we slating barton? every generation has a self destructing player joey is this generations player, bob paisleys skids {ed's note - sorry mate I disagree completely. He gets slated because he has brought it on himself. If he learnt to act like a man, instead of a spoilt little racist brat, then he would give no one a reason to slate him.}

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07 Dec 2010 16:24:16
I hve better idea. . . . sell lucas!

me14

sorry didn't realise it was happy hour, u must be absolutly wasted mate, sell lucas indeed lol

UCCM

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07 Dec 2010 16:15:21
I think people saying put gerrard on the right to allow Lucas to play in the middle need to get a grip. Gerrard is no where near as influential when he's on the wings

Lavers

i hve better idea. . . . sell lucas!

me14

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07 Dec 2010 16:13:25
I think people saying put gerrard on the right to allow Lucas to play in the middle need to get a grip. Gerrard is no where near as influential when he's on the wings

Do we really, Steven gerrard scored most of his goals from the right wing, he can deliver a ball, he can tuck in to allow glen freedom to push on and he would be able to roamto were he wanted to.

i think you have it wrong on this one, gerrard would have more freedom out wide coz of glen exxellent attacking.

UCCM

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07 Dec 2010 16:08:00
Liverpool Rumours
07 Dec 2010 14:01:29Full squad fit what would be your starting 11

reina
kelly krgiakos agger aurelio
johnson gerrard meireles pacheco
. . . . . . . .babel torres

subs
gulacsi
carragher
wilson
lucas
kuyt
jovanovic
ngog

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07 Dec 2010 16:05:05
Liverpool Rumours
Babel has finally been given his chance last 2 games, and he scored in boht (as a striker), he will continue to play until jan. a decision willl then be made to keep or sell, if he comes good there would be no reason to sell the guy!

Me14

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07 Dec 2010 16:01:56
I think people saying put gerrard on the right to allow Lucas to play in the middle need to get a grip. Gerrard is no where near as influential when he's on the wings

Lavers

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07 Dec 2010 16:00:31
I have sometimes been lambasted for my opinions on Carra, I have never questioned is commitment or desire, just his form in the last 18mths, which had not been what it was. I have often said that we would no longer miss him and if he wasnt a local lad he would of been let go last summer.The injury and the greek struggling last night may give Kelly a chance.Wasnt it nice to see him receive the ball in defence and play a forward pass that didn't leave the ground and find a red shirt. I havent seen a central defender play a pass forward like that since Agger last season, hope Roy didn't tell him off too much.

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07 Dec 2010 15:57:40
Ed I don't understand. You continue to knock Babel, yet earlier you were advocating keeping him in the team - even at the expense of Torres - on saturday.

I still think it would be a mistake to leave Torres and Gerrard out no matter what the result was last night.
Newcastle away will be a different proposition to a very poor Villa at home.
Newcastle are at least as good as Stoke and Wigan and we struggled to get a point out of those two games.

Harry J {ed's note - just because I don't rate him doesn't mean I don't think he should be given a chance to prove himself.}

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07 Dec 2010 15:56:51
Wish paul konchesky would put it about abit, maybe that's wat it needs for roy to drop him.
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He would have to go for those ten-to-two birds or he'll have no chance.

MUSHROOM

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07 Dec 2010 15:55:42
Nothing personal but jack wilshere is very young aswell , and hes class compared to shelvey. .

no he is not.

wilshire is promising that's all, if he was 25 plus hed be regarded as average, but because he 18 he regarded as improvable, but it does not mean he will ever make it, personally im not over impressed with him, and he has second half of last year at bolton and first half this year at arsenal experience, so id expect abit more from him.

shelvey is better tho!

UCCM

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07 Dec 2010 15:54:30
Not conviced with shelvey
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Nothing personal but jack wilshere is very young aswell , and hes class compared to shelvey. .
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You don't have to be playing on a regular basis like Wilshere to have the potential to make it as a top player. Some players don't show their true class until they're older and there are many examples of that in modern football today.

And some players peak early also and don't perform in the later stages of their career the way they did in the early stages.

Plus, I'd much prefer that Shelvey played 20mins here and there, learned of his experiences colleagues, gained personal experience and gained confidence before we put him in there.

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07 Dec 2010 15:50:49
Ed seriously what's the problem with van Bommel? I am a huge fan of his as he is always committed to the cause. And he was in your XI in terms of temperament. He isn't captain of Holland and Bayern Munich for nothing you know {ed's note - because he is an animal that commits numerous assaults, er I mean tackles that should result in cards in every match, he is lucky to ever complete a single game.}

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07 Dec 2010 15:48:56
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Not conviced with shelvey
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Nothing personal but jack wilshere is very young aswell , and hes class compared to shelvey. .

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07 Dec 2010 15:47:45
Please, please don't let us go the England way of playing Gerrard out wide to accommodate inferior players in the centre.

Harry J
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Only thing I can think of is to put him up there with Torres where they were fantastic before. We'd have a solid engine room in the middle with Lucas/ Meireles and a world class partnership for defences to deal with up top.

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07 Dec 2010 15:46:11
I read a lot of posts about Gerrard lining up at right midfield. I thought Gerrard did not want to play right mid (the position he was most productive at uinder Benitez) which I believe to be one of the ain reasons for Liverpool's problems. The way I see it, if Gerrard plays right mid, Liverpool only need one winger to cover the left side. Ed, can you confirm whether Gerrard has said he did not want to play on the right? Personally, I believe that with his ability, he would change the whole dynamic of the team by playing wide. Lucas and Meireles would look even better.
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If it meant challenging for the title I'm sure Gerrard would cope. He prefers to play the natural CM role but Lucas and Miereles have been excellent there in the last 2 games. If we sign Honda then a midfield quartet of Honda-Lucas-Miereles-Gerrard would be quite mouthwatering.

MUSHROOM

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07 Dec 2010 15:45:06
Liverpool Rumours
Babel should have been playing as a forward from day one , all this wing play has knocked his confidence so much he doesn't even have belief in himself i still believe e has what we need but only if he is used as a forward and every fan gets behind him to give him that extra push he sometimes needs after all we got behind Crouch when he couldnt hit a barn door and he became a good servant , what u think ed? have you got faith in Babel? {ed's note - no mate, I don't believe it is confidence he lacks, it is ability and workrate.}

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07 Dec 2010 15:41:15
Some of the comments here are worrying.
Please, please don't let us go the England way of playing Gerrard out wide to accommodate inferior players in the centre.

Harry J

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07 Dec 2010 15:35:32
Do you think maybe that torres' wife being pregnant may of effected him on the field this season? (it may of abit)
And do you feel we may see a more on form torres soon? (or a happier torres, he may smile. Lol)

Harry5:) {ed's note - it is very possible, after all his form did dip the last time she was pregnant.}
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There is nothing worse than living with a pregnant woman. No matter how much you love her! Its had to get any decent sleep, they are emotional wrecks, So i see it has a huge chance of effecting form.


i hope they don't have anymore then lol

i wish paul konchesky would put it about abit, maybe that's wat it needs for roy to drop him.

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07 Dec 2010 15:34:55
Spot on again dear sir. I have never really understood why lucas got so much abuse. he was nearly always played out of position. lucas is an attacking midfielder for Brasil. in which he plays very well. to be fair to the lad he never was or will be a proper "holding midfielder"

All credit to the team. to roy . things seem to be maybe coming together. and am i glad to see the revival. long may it continue

chris 1
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Cheers. Did you have a good hol?

MUSHROOM

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07 Dec 2010 15:22:15
Do you think maybe that torres' wife being pregnant may of effected him on the field this season? (it may of abit)
And do you feel we may see a more on form torres soon? (or a happier torres, he may smile. Lol)

Harry5:) {ed's note - it is very possible, after all his form did dip the last time she was pregnant.}
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There is nothing worse than living with a pregnant woman. No matter how much you love her! Its had to get any decent sleep, they are emotional wrecks, So i see it has a huge chance of effecting form.


i hope they don't have anymore then lol

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07 Dec 2010 15:12:10
Great performance last night.
Cole is an accessory Lucas and Merieles hardly give ball away and distriution excellent. Kyut was poor and tho Maxi scored he drifts in/ out of games.
Soto was again excellent carragher just squad player.
Need Gerrard in place of Maxi and important to continue with 2 front players keeps there defenders from pushing up.
ROY will be ok apart from his subsitutions

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07 Dec 2010 15:11:31
Liverpool Rumours
2 players who will definitely sign in January; 1 good, 1 bad. First the good and the obvious one, Keisuke Honda. He's only 24, massive in Japan and a quality footballer, not to mention we'll get him for around £10m and he'll pay that back in commercial value. The second and a bit of bad news, is Clint Dempsey. Again it's a good move in the sense that he's massive in America and again we'd be paying around £5m for him, which will pay back in commercial value, but as far as a footballer goes, sure he can produce a moment of magic (goal against Juventus) or a moment of luck (goal against England) and can pop up with a few important strikes, but he's a mid-table prem player at best.
I'd also expect us to sign either Scott Dann or Ryan Shawcross, either way it will be a Part Exchange deal with Babel going to Birmingham in a straight swap for Scott Dann or Lucas going plus £5m for Shawcross. Preferably I'd take Dann as he's not an ex-Manc and a Liverpool boy, not to mention he's a better defender, relies more on finesse rather than kicking lumps out of defenders and is faster meaning he can keep up with strikers better.
1 other signing I'm quietly confident about is Shaun Wright-Phillips, who doesn't play for Citeh and is English. Only problem is his performances in the WC and for Citeh when played are poor, his passing and movement on and off the ball isn't what it used to be and that final ball has gone missing. If we do get him I pray that these performances are just a lack of match fitness, but the price tag either way is £7m.
We all know a striker will sign in January, even more so if we get Scotty Dann, but I do hope it isn't Benzema or Adebayor. They are both incredibly lazy and perform when they can be bothered, very similar to Berba-flop of United. I'd rather us pull out all the stops for Ola Toivonen, who's continued his fine form with 14 goals in 21 games in all competitions. A fee of around £10m would be enough (I'd guess) and because he's a handful for defenders he'd allow Nando to play more freely, as well as pop up with around 15 goals a season.

The Avenger

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07 Dec 2010 15:11:10
{Editor's note - Its Dev, how have you you been.}

ive been good, just finished doing all the kids christmas present shopping, and put all the decorations up, how have you been, and correct me if im wrong but you said once the season starts we are enemys lol.

UCCM
{Editor's note - We still are lol, but remember keep your friends close, but your enemies closer lol}

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07 Dec 2010 15:08:43
Not conviced with shelvey


Good coz he aint that fond of you either.

UCCM

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07 Dec 2010 15:07:05
Liverpool Rumours
Ed have not posted in a while since the take over.Just wanted to no if you think liverpool will spend any money in the next transfer window CASTER TROY
{Editor's note - Yes, not as much as some people think but I believe they will spend}

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07 Dec 2010 15:03:13
{Editor's note - Will see what I can do, how are you, long time since last talked to you}

depends which ed this is lol, is that dev, or the original ed and ive posted loads of times but get too lazy too leave name sometimes lol.

UCCM
{Editor's note - Its Dev, how have you you been.}

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07 Dec 2010 14:57:53
07 Dec 2010 13:40:55
Liverpool Rumours
Not conviced with shelvey
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Hes 18 m8, get a grip! !

Harry5;(

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07 Dec 2010 14:52:16
Liverpool Rumours
Hi Ed
Do you know anything about the Rod Fanni rumours?
Personally i wouldn't mind us getting him, aslong as it didn't cost too much.
1st- He could play right-back in europe with kelly and wilson in the middle
2nd With him and johnson at rb we would be able to put kelly as cb is needs be and thiswould mean we wouldn't need to spend10 million on cahill or shawcross who arent worth that
3rd-we could play fanni at left back
Lastly- Johnson could play right wing and fanni right back.
Lots of poosibities with a small cost signinjg

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07 Dec 2010 14:52:07
I say your knowledge is poor!
Lucas laid the pass for Babel to score last night. If you watch the game again, you will see that this pass went forward. In the Euro game he played a pass forward, I repeat forward, for Stevie G to score his hatrick goal. And that is 2 examples off the top of my head. Lucas is a player in his own right and is a totally different type of player to Fabregas/ Alonso. Mascherano gave more fouls away than most of our midfielders and always looked like he could get sent off, so that does not back up your argument. Stop looking to put down Lucas just because he has proved you wrong.

MUSHROOM
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Spot on again dear sir. I have never really understood why lucas got so much abuse. he was nearly always played out of position. lucas is an attacking midfielder for Brasil. in which he plays very well. to be fair to the lad he never was or will be a proper "holding midfielder"

All credit to the team. to roy . things seem to be maybe coming together. and am i glad to see the revival. long may it continue

chris 1

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07 Dec 2010 14:45:27
It seems the more we slate and curse lucas the better he gets"so here goes"!
lucas you don't desreve to wear the red shirt, your useless, you can't pass, can't shoot, cant head even poulson is better than you.

Now watch Lucas to get man off the match against Newcastle

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07 Dec 2010 14:43:59
Liverpool Rumours
Any chance of maradona coming in as manager. hes young and available. would suit the nesv philosophy and might be able to get messi in as well. just saying like. what about chris hughton. doing better then us in the league and he gets fired. that's tough. he must be looking at roy and thinking what a jammy b@llix. ah well. wonder if cruyff would come in as manager. whats he doing at the moment. didn't he play against us for alaves. rafa looks like he'll be available again soon. wonder what all the rafa followers make of that. making a pigs mickey of inter. they won stuff last year, didn't they. mourinhno could be sacked, couldnt he? would he come? he might. what do you think ed? nurses are awful slow with the meds this morning. . . .
{Editor's note - Messi will never leave Barca. Mourinho I doubt will come to Liverpool and I do not want Rafa back.}

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07 Dec 2010 14:43:18
Liverpool Rumours
The confirmed rumour is that the club are in talks with Ronaldinho an AC Milan with the view of signing him on loan to the end of season, which is when his contract runs out. Talks are stalling however with LFC looking Milan to still pay a share of his wages as Ronaldinho is not prepared to take a pay cut. Can't see why the hell we want another overpaid show pony when we already have Joe Cole to warm the bench. kk

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07 Dec 2010 14:37:20
Well as the current incumbent of the right back in the top tier of the stand in this team, i think it is appropriate to comment on last night's game.

Firstly, i think i was watching a different Meireles to everyone else last night. Whilst agreeing he is an excellent purchase, he gave the ball away too cheaply, too many times last night and i thought he had one of his poorer games in the middle because of this.

Lucas had a solid, if unspectacular, game last night. Strange that all of a sudden fans are starting to realise his worth to the team. He hasn't suddenly started to work harder, tackle and defend better but he has improved on his distribution and lowered the amount of unforced errors this season. Yet Meireles was guilty of many unforced errors last night, strange very strange.

However, that said and without being too picky bearing in mind we won 3-0, i was distinctly unimpressed with our tactics second half. Clearly sitting back and protecting our lead, instead of having the correct balance to ensure we didn't attack gung ho and get caught short on the counter attack (if you say it in the way Rafa did it's very amusing!). The first 20 mins of the second half, third goal included, we were utterly pish. We finished the half like we should have started it with Johnson ramraiding down the right flank at will.

But perhaps i'm being too picky. On a more amusing note though, how poor were Villa? Shocking.

Bob the Red

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07 Dec 2010 14:24:29
Liverpool Rumours
NEW LIVERPOOL MANAGER TO BE APOINTED VERY SOON AS NEWCASTLE ARE SNIFFING ROUND NESV LONG TERM TARGET HEARD IT HERE FIRST

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07 Dec 2010 14:22:25
Ed,
Do you think maybe that torres' wife being pregnant may of effected him on the field this season? (it may of abit)
And do you feel we may see a more on form torres soon? (or a happier torres, he may smile. Lol)

Harry5:) {ed's note - it is very possible, after all his form did dip the last time she was pregnant.}
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There is nothing worse than living with a pregnant woman. No matter how much you love her! Its had to get any decent sleep, they are emotional wrecks, So i see it has a huge chance of effecting form.

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07 Dec 2010 14:21:25
Liverpool FC looked a Team last night, Not a team that two certain liverpool individuals everything has to go through.Great passing, good defending, good attacking, No hoofing long balls from the back to no one.

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07 Dec 2010 14:17:31
Sounds like comolli is looking at players whose clubs are struggling financially. Shame Mata just signed a new contract. The way it's written it on ss.com makes out we will be signing some big name players

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07 Dec 2010 14:08:12
Well we have hammered the players enough times now for being S##t . .

we have all hammered the manager for being s##t

now its time to give ourselves the fans some s##t for being absolutly awful last night at times i was asshmed to be there.

Lads we need to start getting behind the team more

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07 Dec 2010 14:01:41
Liverpool Rumours
Alonso was a special guest at anfield yesterday what do you make of this ed seems abit strange
{Editor's note - He says he still watches Liverpool play}

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07 Dec 2010 14:01:29
Full squad fit what would be your starting 11

gk - Reina
rb - Glen
rcb - kelly
lcb - agger
lb - aurelio
rcm - gerrard
cm - raul
lcm lucas
rf - ngog
lf - pacheco
st - torres

subs

hansen

wilson
carra

shelvey
cole

kuyt
eccleston

when 2011 season starts id like carra to become coach and ayala to take his place, myself on transfers would be honda and hazard, honda to take cole's squad place, hazard to take kuyts squad place.

UCCM

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07 Dec 2010 14:00:19
Liverpool Rumours
Sorry to disappoint some, but Ronaldinho is on £120,000 per week. We won't pay that for a 30-year-old.

The most I would offer him would be about £50-60k per week.

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07 Dec 2010 13:50:15
Liverpool Rumours
Evry site posts a bit of crap mate , all im staing is that the signings that actually happen get posted by kop talk 1st normally , im not lying im telling it how it is , i aint tryning to big up the website i dnt care who has the best site or who post the rumour first its just what i no , i search every source , koptalk normally say first the deal is defo dun then a day or 2 later it is comfirmed and sometimes (example joe cole) they give the details of the contract aswell , (all i wanted to no was what the comfirmd rumour was for godsake , does anyone know?)

Is your name Duncan?! !

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07 Dec 2010 13:48:54
Do u think we could play a 3 man midfield seeing as most teams in prem play 4 or 5 in the middle they could get over ran. Good team tho. What positions do u think we need to improve come Jan and the summer.

Lavers

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07 Dec 2010 13:48:06
Liverpool Rumours
Believe it or not the best thing for LFC to happen was Carra and gerrard and torres to be out.
The evidence Soto proved his worth. Merieles plays like a £40m player in centre with Lucas who has better temperment than Mad masch. Were able to play 2upfront give Babel a chance.

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07 Dec 2010 13:48:01
Hey ed can we have a Linda Henry day for the QUEEN of the kop.

also at the end of a game when the teams swap shirts, can we get her to do that also, u have contact ed a word in the right ear lol.

UCCM
{Editor's note - Will see what I can do, how are you, long time since last talked to you}

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07 Dec 2010 13:44:59
Liverpool Rumours
Soto(power), lucas(solid), merieles(ditribution). ngog (workrate) , Maxi(drifts 2much) Kyut(uneffective) Sytel(liabilty) Carragher(heart still there but slow squad player)

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07 Dec 2010 13:43:08
STOP SAYING BABEL IS WORTH KEEPING. JUST NOT GOOD ENOUGH, OR CONSISTENT ENOUGH.
LUCAS PLAYED WELL - BUT I THINK WE CAN GET BETTER THAN HIM IN THE TRANSFER MARKET.
NGOG IS NOT A WORLD CLASS STRIKER.
COLE IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH - NEVER WAS WHEN HE SIGNED FOR US - GET RID.
MAXI IS A SUB AT BEST.
KONCHESKY IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
WE NEED MORE THAN RUNNING AND WORKRATE FROM KUYT
REPLACE THE ABOVE WE MIGHT HAVE A CHANCE NEXT SEASON.
Thats seven players who played last night who are not good enough for us to get us where we want to be.

MEIRELES SEEMS LIKE A CLASS PLAYER.
THE GREEK IS WORTH KEEPING
RED FIRST AND LAST

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07 Dec 2010 13:43:01
Hello ed.Whats the new site your working on going to be about and what will be the name of it
{Editor's note - It will be a news site but written with comedy I think, the main Ed is working on it atm}

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07 Dec 2010 13:40:55
Liverpool Rumours
Not conviced with shelvey

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07 Dec 2010 13:40:38
Liverpool Rumours
Meireles is looking like a quality signing- well done Roy!

Meirleles IS a quality signing!

I have to admit but Roy is starting to make me believe. He has got us playing as a team should do, defend as a unit and attack as a unit. No more relying on one or two players to get us out a hole.

It's what has kept us back for so long!

Love the new fighting spirit boy's, keep up the good work.

PJ RED

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07 Dec 2010 13:40:07
Great performance last night.
Cole is an accessory Lucas and Merieles hardly give ball away and distriution excellent. Kyut was poor and tho Maxi scored he drifts in/ out of games.
Soto was again excellent carragher just squad player.
Need Gerrard in place of Maxi and important to continue with 2 front players keeps there defenders from pushing up.

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07 Dec 2010 13:37:37
Liverpool Rumours
(all i wanted to no was what the comfirmd rumour was for godsake , does anyone know?)

The trouble is a rumour is not fact, so their is no such thing as a confirmed rumour. It is merely a statement without facts to confirm its truth

For instance EVERY rumour in this site can be confirmed as a definate rumour, but it could still be a pile of boll* ks made up by somebody and if Koptalk make 20 rumours up then by law of averages 1 or 2 may come true

The Sculptor

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07 Dec 2010 13:30:27
Liverpool Rumours
''LUIS SUAREZ, Babel + £10-£18m for Suarez, and evry ones happy

i won't be happy with that, suarez has an appaling sense of sportsmanship and would drag liverpools name through the mud almost as much as H&G, no thank you, but id either van der wiel, erikson, lodiero, alderwield, they all good players, one of them one be better option than luis suarez.
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The shameful antics of Saurez after been sent off for deliberate handball against Ghana in the World Cup Quarter final and celebrating the missed penalty by Ghana really sticks in my throat. I don't really want him in a Liverpool shirt. A bad sport in my view''
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He's also currently on a 7 game suspension for BITING a player called Bakkal!

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07 Dec 2010 13:29:56
Ed, i heard that we could be signing fanni in the next 48 hours, do u think this is true? {ed's note - I am not convinced, he is not young and would be outside of NESV's stated ideas on players.}

i truly hope we don't waste our money on fanni, a friend of mine once did and he's in a bad way now lol

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07 Dec 2010 13:28:19
Will somebody please gag the idiot that's raving about koptalk, he's either managed to get himself a free membership or he's one of fat Duncs winnets. .

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07 Dec 2010 13:27:57
I read a lot of posts about Gerrard lining up at right midfield. I thought Gerrard did not want to play right mid (the position he was most productive at uinder Benitez) which I believe to be one of the ain reasons for Liverpool's problems. The way I see it, if Gerrard plays right mid, Liverpool only need one winger to cover the left side. Ed, can you confirm whether Gerrard has said he did not want to play on the right? Personally, I believe that with his ability, he would change the whole dynamic of the team by playing wide. Lucas and Meireles would look even better.

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07 Dec 2010 13:22:05
Liverpool Rumours
Please pass my congratulations to Nando on the birth of his new child.

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07 Dec 2010 13:17:10
Liverpool Rumours
"Lucas and Meireles are slowly becoming quite a force in midfield"

I agree, and have been a believer that Meireles was a great buy from the start. He is a great replacement for Masch, but better offensively and without the temper. There were times when Masch was out of control, (Manure games come to mind), where I was embarrassed he was wearing our kit.

And Lucas, quite simply, is playing his best football as a Red right now.

NESV just dealt for a player for the Red Sox and have the framework in place for a 7-year / $154 million contract. . that kind of dedication has me excited about the future of our beloved club.

YNWA!

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07 Dec 2010 13:11:44
LUIZ SUAREZ
i can not understand why people on here are going on and on about the clear and obvious accident were he tripped and banged his face on ottman bakkal shoulder the only wound on show was a clear case of joggers nipple, this whole incident was very similar to that sad day when boxer mike tyson was wrongly accused of biting holyfields ear it was later proved that holyfield started the fight without any ears at all, i say buy luiz and supply all opponents with snoods to stop any such accidents in the future, bob paisleys skids

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07 Dec 2010 13:08:14
Ed/ mushroom full squad fit what would be your starting 11.

Lavers {ed's note - Johnson, Kelly, Agger, Konchesky in front of Reina, mid 3 of Gerrard, Meireles and Lucas, with Torres, Pacheco and Ngog in front.}
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I get accused of agreeing with alot of what you say but again I agree with your team. I think the midfield trio will take some beating especially.

MUSHROOM

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07 Dec 2010 12:55:15
Anyone notice Mark Lawrenson's belly hanging out on Match of the Day every week. .either the shirts are getting tighter or Lawro's belly is getting bigger.

Also I'm taking pleasure in watching Lawro 'Snort' everytime he amuses himself with one of his own gags! Class!

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07 Dec 2010 12:51:04
Ed,
Do you think maybe that torres' wife being pregnant may of effected him on the field this season? (it may of abit)
And do you feel we may see a more on form torres soon? (or a happier torres, he may smile. Lol)

Harry5:) {ed's note - it is very possible, after all his form did dip the last time she was pregnant.}

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07 Dec 2010 12:48:44
Liverpool Rumours
I know that I was heartened by the display last night.
The lads looked quite good, even though Villa weren't up to much.
Thought that Lucas had a cracking match too.
I for one hope he stays !
We should be getting rid of the older 'fringe' players and keeping the likes of Lucas, Babel? (played well too) and Ngog.
What you reckon there oh wise ed ? {ed's note - I am still not convinced by Babel, but I would give him a run in the team up front until January and see if he can prove me wrong.}

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07 Dec 2010 12:45:42
I've just put 20euro on Liverpool to win the league. 80-1.

If we keep the raul/ Lucas partnership in cm, play ngog/ Torres up front, and gerrard right mid(which I think is one of his best positions we are contenders.

Kuyt and konsesky have to go. Lucas and raul bossed the game last night without breaking a sweat.

I still think Roy will be there for the next five yrs. We have to be very careful who we buy in jan. I think a left back is all we need to honest.

I just wish the spurs game was this weekend.

Daveevd

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07 Dec 2010 12:45:41
Ed are u gonna decorate the site for christmas, give it a festive look

UCCM {ed's note - I doubt it mate, just don't have the time at the moment mate, working on a new site currently sorry.}

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07 Dec 2010 12:43:56
I want to say sorry to lucas for calling him donkey and for not giving him a chance to prove what he can do, and il never jump the gun again about players who just need time and maybe i am wrong about roy maybe he needs time to prove what he can do, i don't think its the liverpool way to jugde people without giving them a chance, i know in liverpool we expect the best and so we should but we need to layoff and give the team the time it needs.
what you think ed about getting Chris Hughton's as roys number 2?
king henry {ed's note - do you think he would want to drop back to being a number 2?}
maybe mate he might like the idea to come to our great club and he would be treated right, but maybe your right but i think moving to liverpool isn't a drop back no matter what number you are but id say that anyway.

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07 Dec 2010 12:42:57
Anyone else noticed from last night's game that we hoofed the ball up the pitch a lot less from the back. Combined with playing 2 up front and playing the ball mostly to feet through the middle - we looked much more like a top-6 PL side.
2 things I got from it:
1 - Carragher you've been a great servant, but its time mate to hang up the boots. He's the chief hoofer.
2 - We should play 4-4-2 all the time.

RedTed

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07 Dec 2010 12:41:08
I am prepared as I will bite you, as I am Saurez and if you are lucky I might spit in your face.

MUSHROOM {ed's note - good job you aren't Barton or you would wait till my back is turned and I am on the floor before launching an attack.}
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It would only be one precise kick to the face. As I am a COWARD!

MUSHROOM

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07 Dec 2010 12:40:58
Having braved the plunging temperatures at Anfield last night wearing considerably more than Maxi's rather fetching red and white snood, I am delighted to have woken up to find that we definitely did win 3-0, and that Ngog , Babel and the aforementioned snood-wearer all scored. Thank Kenny's famous Number Seven shirt, it was no dream. All told, I felt it was a very encouraging performance. The fact that the Liverpool players performed extremely well as a unit was pleasing, as was the manner in which Liverpool applied pressure to Aston Villa further up the pitch than we have seen of late. This was particularly evident in the first half. Critics will say that even though Liverpool worked hard to close Villa down, the Liverpool defence remained quite deep quite deep at times, but that is by no means a bad idea against nippy little chaps such as Agbonlahor. The second half saw Liverpool applying a little less pressure, but Liverpool were still able to get forward when they needed to, and could probably have scored a couple more with a little luck. The central midfield pairing of Meireles and Lucas looks extremely well-balanced, and should certainly not be broken up at any cost. Babel played well, and worked harder when not in possession than we have seen in the past. Ngog was in the right place at the right time, and linked the play up nicely. I still think he displays considerable promise. Maxi's movement and forward running proved invaluable too. Even the much-maligned Konchesky had a good game, making some important challenges. Pepe achieved a remarkable record, and the world has a new Torres. Gerard Houllier and Gary McAllister received generous plaudits from the Liverpool fans. In short, all's well with the world, or will be, as soon as I have knocked the icicles from my various appendages. Only one question remains: where were the Anfield Road end? Come on chaps. It's not THAT cold. I bet Owen Coyle is still in shorts.

Red Owl

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07 Dec 2010 12:40:45
Ed/ mushroom full squad fit what would be your starting 11.

Lavers {ed's note - Johnson, Kelly, Agger, Konchesky in front of Reina, mid 3 of Gerrard, Meireles and Lucas, with Torres, Pacheco and Ngog in front.}

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07 Dec 2010 12:39:24
John henry tweet last nite:

John_W_Henry:
100 clean sheets. A terrific accomplishment. And a great effort by everyone tonight to keep moving up the table.

Harry5:)

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07 Dec 2010 12:35:08
MUSHROOM are you Mike Ashley in disguise trying to pawn him off lol.
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I am. I'm the fat basket that runs a sports company who's only excercise is lifting pints and pies. I got rid of Hughton as he stopped buying me pork pies and Jol said he would chuck in a tube of pringles as well. Oh happy days.

MUSHROOM

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07 Dec 2010 12:33:47
Liverpool Rumours
I want to say sorry to lucas for calling him donkey and for not giving him a chance to prove what he can do, and il never jump the gun again about players who just need time and maybe i am wrong about roy maybe he needs time to prove what he can do, i don't think its the liverpool way to jugde people without giving them a chance, i know in liverpool we expect the best and so we should but we need to layoff and give the team the time it needs.
what you think ed about getting Chris Hughton's as roys number 2?
king henry {ed's note - do you think he would want to drop back to being a number 2?}

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07 Dec 2010 12:32:38
I think any striker would join us at the moment if offered. Were playing 442. All roy has to say youll be partnering torres. .
he needs to say no more.
Strikers in the past knew that theyd be on the bench because we would play 451. But were playing 442 now!

Harry5:)

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07 Dec 2010 12:32:02
What about barce formation? solves all problems! 4-3-3 Reina Johnson Skrtel Agger Konchesky . . . . . . .Meireles . . Gerrard. . . . Lucas Cole. . . . . . . . . . . .Babel . . . . . .Torres. . . . . . . . . When everyones fit

When everyones fit i wouldn't have babel over Ngog, and i wouldn't have cole over pacheco, and i wouldn't have konchesky full stop lol, but i agree the barce formation (with the right players) is 433 with the ball and 451 without, but u need players who are willing to win the ball back when we lose it.

UCCM

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07 Dec 2010 12:31:16
Liverpool Rumours
Surely this squad should win most games/ trophys, but there too many ego's, not enough actual players willing to fight for the pride of the shirt.Do u agree ED or am i wrong on this one. {ed's note - I agree completely mate, it is not about having the best players but the best team.}

the same thing is happening with man city. you can spend all the money you like on players, it won't create a team. if you look through the years at all clubs, real madrid included, you will see the best teams have always had the perfect blend of experienced players and young players, its what sets you up for the future. the constant emergence of young players coming through is how teams win. buying a lot of good experienced players may help at that time but takes away the platform for youth to step up therefore restricting that club from progressing as a team in the future, they are still just a bunch of players

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07 Dec 2010 12:31:00
Jack Hobbs was bought from Lincoln City. . Doh! !

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07 Dec 2010 12:28:54
I have the Sky Sports app on my phone and if i can't see the game i always watch the commentary, is it me or is ben.collins@bskyb.com a liverpool hater, all he does is post is negative comments about LFC and bigs up any team against them.
Does anyone agree? have a look at last nights commentary you would have though Villa won the game.
jns YNWA

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07 Dec 2010 12:26:45
I'd say the Ed is Carroll in disguise. He's said all this just to throw you off the scent.

MUSHROOM {ed's note - dammit my cover is blown! I will be round later to smash a glass in your face and give you a good kicking while you are down just to prove I really am Carroll. . . }

If that's the case then Ed/ Andy i really beleive you should sign for manure FOR LIFE never leave them.

MUSHROOM are you Mike Ashley in disguise trying to pawn him off lol.

Sorry mate nobody deserves to be assiciated with either of those two morons, My condolances to Newcastle United for having to put up with the pair of em.

But andy carroll is exelent on football manager 2011, if that's any consolation lol.

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07 Dec 2010 12:25:43
Liverpool Rumours
What about barce formation? solves all problems! 4-3-3 Reina Johnson Skrtel Agger Konchesky . . . . . . .Meireles . . Gerrard. . . . Lucas Cole. . . . . . . . . . . .Babel . . . . . .Torres. . . . . . . . . When everyones fit

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07 Dec 2010 12:22:22
I'd say the Ed is Carroll in disguise. He's said all this just to throw you off the scent.

MUSHROOM {ed's note - dammit my cover is blown! I will be round later to smash a glass in your face and give you a good kicking while you are down just to prove I really am Carroll. . . }
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I am prepared as I will bite you, as I am Saurez and if you are lucky I might spit in your face.

MUSHROOM {ed's note - good job you aren't Barton or you would wait till my back is turned and I am on the floor before launching an attack.}

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07 Dec 2010 12:22:10
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It was great to see Alonso at the game yesterday or was he? I have heard that it was a cardboard cut out put there by NESV just to get the rumours started. . . May try and sign Andy Carroll now Hughton has gawn with Dempsey and Honda.

What say you ED? {ed's note - er no, Carroll is going nowhere, thankfully, he can't move anyway, his bail restricts him from living anywhere but with Nolan.}

To be fair Ed, Carroll aint that bad and I think he would be a handy signing, however, I never knew about the bail conditions. {ed's note - he is just a big lump who can head the ball well, last thing we need is that with our defenders liking for hoofing the ball! His movement is dreadful, he has no pace or skill and he is a complete scumbag who likes to beat up women, glass people in night clubs and attack team mates.}

Take it that's a no then ha ha (could it have been a cardboard cut out though? ?) Would be great to have Alonso back, I always thought he was our best player. {ed's note - Alonso comes back to Liverpool on a regular basis, if he is not playing for Madrid and we are playing he is in the stands. It is not a new thing, I don't understand why such a big deal is being made.}

I THINK EDS GOT OUT OF THE WRONG SIDE OF BED, being grumpy today! {ed's note - I thought I was always grumpy?}

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07 Dec 2010 12:18:38
{ed's note - he is just a big lump who can head the ball well, last thing we need is that with our defenders liking for hoofing the ball! His movement is dreadful, he has no pace or skill and he is a complete scumbag who likes to beat up women, glass people in night clubs and attack team mates.}

Ed if i didn't no any better id say ud be against a possible move for him, what with his splendid attitude to the game and his team mates, and that blistering pace he has, what a role model for all those kids out there who want to no how to become a profesional footballer, and how to act the part.

UCCM
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I'd say the Ed is Carroll in disguise. He's said all this just to throw you off the scent.

MUSHROOM {ed's note - dammit my cover is blown! I will be round later to smash a glass in your face and give you a good kicking while you are down just to prove I really am Carroll......}

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07 Dec 2010 12:13:32
{ed's note - he is just a big lump who can head the ball well, last thing we need is that with our defenders liking for hoofing the ball! His movement is dreadful, he has no pace or skill and he is a complete scumbag who likes to beat up women, glass people in night clubs and attack team mates.}

Ed if i didn't no any better id say ud be against a possible move for him, what with his splendid attitude to the game and his team mates, and that blistering pace he has, what a role model for all those kids out there who want to no how to become a profesional footballer, and how to act the part.

UCCM

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07 Dec 2010 12:09:59
The only goalkeeper i can think of is Oliver Khan for his disgusting challenge at the beggining of his carear when he nearly disable a player rushing out of goal and using his hips and raised knee to collide with the player, do you no which incident im talking bout ed, also dnt forget Axel Witsel of standard leige.

UCCM {ed's note - there are so many that can be included, what about Ravel Morrison of United? He has form, a lot of form for a youngster!}

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07 Dec 2010 12:08:09
Ed/ MUSHROOM

What would be the worst 11 to have right now attitude wise.

For me a special mention for El hadje Diouf who be the star of the disgusting show lol.

UCCM {ed's note - Andy Carroll and Luis Suarez up front, Barton and Bowyer in midfield, though De Jong, Fellaini and van Bommel would be options. Terry in defence is a standout, his brother would be in with a chance in midfield too.}
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Not a bad bad team Ed. I would place Mourinho in charge as he loves a cheater.

MUSHROOM

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07 Dec 2010 11:55:22
Ed/ MUSHROOM

What would be the worst 11 to have right now attitude wise.

For me a special mention for El hadje Diouf who be the star of the disgusting show lol.

UCCM {ed's note - Andy Carroll and Luis Suarez up front, Barton and Bowyer in midfield, though De Jong, Fellaini and van Bommel would be options. Terry in defence is a standout, his brother would be in with a chance in midfield too.}

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07 Dec 2010 11:49:09
Liverpool Rumours
Roy should just try out a new strike force with ryan babel and torres leading the line if it works it works and if not then hard luck

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07 Dec 2010 11:46:17
However I'd be upset to see him at Anfield because he bites people. . end of. I hope that the days of that type of behaviour at Anfield disappeared when Diouf was kicked out on his arse
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I know they say put plenty of bite into a tackle, but Saurez takes it literally.

MUSHROOM

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07 Dec 2010 11:46:11
That's not how I judge players just think people are getting carried away here. Ok then ed say its the champions league final Saturday would u still play the same team and keep morale of fringe players up, or would u put in torres and gerrard. Just think its easy to say keep the same team when its only Newcastle next.

Lavers {ed's note - but it isn't the Champions League final, and we won't get there by dropping our fringe players the minute the big players come back.}

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07 Dec 2010 11:45:15
Ed what do you make of Mike Ashley sacking Chris Hughton, Personally i think its a disgrace after all Chris did for Newcastle United, And i thought we had it bad with H&G. {ed's note - I have absolutely no time for Ashley, he has been trying to undermine Hughton ever since he gave him the job. I would have thought Newcastle's only aim this season would be to avoid relegation and Hughton looked easily capable of doing that for them.}

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07 Dec 2010 11:44:23
Completely agree mushroom, imagine how much we'd have to continuasly pay in bail money lol
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They could do a documentary on prison teams and call it "the real mean machine". LOL

MUSHROOM

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07 Dec 2010 11:43:20
I don't want suarez coz he bites ppl, imagine if he came to EPL and bit say John terry, JT would circumsize his scrawny little kneck.

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07 Dec 2010 11:42:27
Liverpool Rumours
Meireles is looking like a quality signing- well done Roy!

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07 Dec 2010 11:38:14
Lets just put this lucas/ babel issue in the spotlight.

Real Madrid ALL there STAR names get picked but they achieve nothing compared to barcelonas HARD WORKING team

cassias
ramos
pepe
marcelo
carvalho
xabi
khadera
ozil
di maria
ronaldo
benzema
higuan
albiol
canales
diara/ s
pedro leon
arbeloa
kaka

surely this squad should win most games/ trophys, but there too many ego's, not enough actual players willing to fight for the pride of the shirt.

Do u agree ED or am i wrong on this one. {ed's note - I agree completely mate, it is not about having the best players but the best team.}

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07 Dec 2010 11:32:41
The shameful antics of Saurez after been sent off for deliberate handball against Ghana in the World Cup Quarter final and celebrating the missed penalty by Ghana really sticks in my throat. I don't really want him in a Liverpool shirt. A bad sport in my view.
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I take a slightly different view on this particular incident. That handball was a reflexive action, pure and simple. 99% of us would do the same in a similar situation. He's then trudging off the pitch knowing that he's going to be portrayed rightly or wrongly as the man whose actions cost his country a totally unexpected semi final place. All of a sudden he sees the spot kick missed. The relief must be absolutely enormous. I place no blame whatsoever on him for that.

However I'd be upset to see him at Anfield because he bites people. . end of. I hope that the days of that type of behaviour at Anfield disappeared when Diouf was kicked out on his arse

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07 Dec 2010 11:32:09
Look at the upcoming fixtures:

The question is what do we expect from the team in these upcoming fixtures?
Personally I expect maximum points. The only fixture that worries me is the Fulham game. Time for the team to really step up and salvage our season.

Saturday, 11 December 2010: Newcastle v Liverpool, 17:30
Wednesday, 15 December 2010: Liverpool v FC Utrecht, GpK, 20:05
Saturday, 18 December 2010: Liverpool v Fulham, 17:30
Sunday, 26 December 2010: Blackpool v Liverpool, 15:00
Wednesday, 29 December 2010: Liverpool v Wolverhampton, 20:00
Saturday, 1 January 2011: Liverpool v Bolton, 15:00
Wednesday, 5 January 2011:Blackburn v Liverpool, 20:00


Nothing less than maximum points


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Why are you worried about the Fulham game? They're worse away from home than us. We put 3 goals past West Ham and Villa. I expect us todo the same against them. The only potentially tricky game I can see in December is against Blackpool due to the way Holloway gets his teams playing

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07 Dec 2010 11:26:02
Why not buy Barton and Cassano aswell and then we can have almost half the team missing at the same time through suspension or fallouts.

MUSHROOM

Completely agree mushroom, imagine how much we'd have to continuasly pay in bail money lol

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07 Dec 2010 11:24:25
The question is what do we expect from the team in these upcoming fixtures?
Personally I expect maximum points. The only fixture that worries me is the Fulham game. Time for the team to really step up and salvage our season.

You're right, on paper they are all winable however Blackpool at home was winable, Stoke away was winable. I'd fancy us to get maximum points from the home fixtures but bugger all from the away ones if this season is anything to go by. We should hammer Newcastle on Saturday but you know that Roy is going to set us up for a draw and a sucker punch is coming.

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07 Dec 2010 11:21:04
Look at the upcoming fixtures:

The question is what do we expect from the team in these upcoming fixtures?
Personally I expect maximum points. The only fixture that worries me is the Fulham game. Time for the team to really step up and salvage our season.

Saturday, 11 December 2010: Newcastle v Liverpool, 17:30
Wednesday, 15 December 2010: Liverpool v FC Utrecht, GpK, 20:05
Saturday, 18 December 2010: Liverpool v Fulham, 17:30
Sunday, 26 December 2010: Blackpool v Liverpool, 15:00
Wednesday, 29 December 2010: Liverpool v Wolverhampton, 20:00
Saturday, 1 January 2011: Liverpool v Bolton, 15:00
Wednesday, 5 January 2011:Blackburn v Liverpool, 20:00


Nothing less than maximum points

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07 Dec 2010 11:14:13
So now Lucas and babel/ ngog are good enough to replace Gerrard and torres? I we were to sell any of the first 3 players I mentioned how many of the top teams in England would want to buy them. I don't think there would b a big line.

Lavers {ed's note - and that is your sole way of judging players is it? Only Henry and Vieira were both unwanted by anyone until they joined Arsenal, does that mean they were rubbish? Anyway no one has talked about them replacing Gerrard and Torres, but that has obviously escaped you. The point is that players should not just walk straight back into a team that is playing well together. That is a sure fire way to destroy team spirit and to make sure that fringe players lose their will to even bother trying. I mean what is the point in coming in and playing well if it just means you go back onto the bench afterwards anyway?}

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07 Dec 2010 11:11:28
Look at the upcoming fixtures:

The question is what do we expect from the team in these upcoming fixtures?
Personally I expect maximum points. The only fixture that worries me is the Fulham game. Time for the team to really step up and salvage our season.

Saturday, 11 December 2010: Newcastle v Liverpool, 17:30
Wednesday, 15 December 2010: Liverpool v FC Utrecht, GpK, 20:05
Saturday, 18 December 2010: Liverpool v Fulham, 17:30
Sunday, 26 December 2010: Blackpool v Liverpool, 15:00
Wednesday, 29 December 2010: Liverpool v Wolverhampton, 20:00
Saturday, 1 January 2011: Liverpool v Bolton, 15:00
Wednesday, 5 January 2011:Blackburn v Liverpool, 20:00

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07 Dec 2010 11:06:42
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07 Dec 2010 10:36:04
{ed's note - I just hope Gerrard doesn't just waltz back into the team. Great player that he is, it would do the team good to see that no one is assured of a place.}

If you look at things that way Babel should start on saturday and Torres will be on the bench.

Gerrard and Torres ahead of Lucas and Babel every time.

Harry J {ed's note - why not leave Babel in? He scored, he may not have had the best of games, but him and Ngog deserve a chance to prove they can do it. If it doesn't work then you have Gerrard and Torres to come off the bench when the opposition is tiring and they can tear them to shreds.}

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Last night showed us how the team could perform without Carra, Gerrard and Torres. If Gerrard isn't 100% why break up the Meireles/ Lucas midfield and if Torres has his mind on his new born baby then lets stick with Ngog and Babel. Newcastle won't play a high line due to Campbells pace so hopefully Babel won't get caught offside as much and its was a good finish from him. We are all assuming there will be sgining in January biut if there isn't then we need to see what the 'squad' players can do

RedDan

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07 Dec 2010 11:06:05
To reply to the comment from the fellow supporter who said that i don't understand our football club u r wrong my friend i have watched lucas on many acations and i don't see him contributing to the team he is no fabregas who when he was brought to arsenal at a tender age broke into there first team that had some of the best midfielders in the world and established himself i mean when mascherano and alonso were the midfield partnership i did'nt think he covered himself in glory or pushed them for the first team spot and the only reason a section of kopites r behind him now is that the other midfielders are not at the quality of alonso and mascherano in the team but u have to be honest lucas does not score enough goals he passes sideways all the time he makes silly fouls in dangerous areas and does'nt drive the midfield at all watching him and poulson together is like watching to ray wilkins both are crab like players everything sideways so u say my knowledge is poor but u did not give me a reason on why we should keep him when there is other midfielders in the world who look foward and pass and control the midfield i just think we have to many of these so called holding midfielders at the moment in our team and we need to replace him with a more stylish midfield man like a martinez of bilbao ganso of santos someone with vision to feed our front men do u not agree with me kopite now and also do u not think lucas is alot like anderson at man utd got potential but just will never fulfill that potential i mean he is 23 going on 24 and he does not look like a fabregas or alonso to me so that's what i think on the comment from yourself saying our some of our supporters want to keep him around
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I say your knowledge is poor!
Lucas laid the pass for Babel to score last night. If you watch the game again, you will see that this pass went forward. In the Euro game he played a pass forward, I repeat forward, for Stevie G to score his hatrick goal. And that is 2 examples off the top of my head. Lucas is a player in his own right and is a totally different type of player to Fabregas/ Alonso. Mascherano gave more fouls away than most of our midfielders and always looked like he could get sent off, so that does not back up your argument. Stop looking to put down Lucas just because he has proved you wrong.

MUSHROOM

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07 Dec 2010 10:59:57
Ed's note - I just hope Gerrard doesn't just waltz back into the team. Great player that he is, it would do the team good to see that no one is assured of a place.}

If you look at things that way Babel should start on saturday and Torres will be on the bench.

Gerrard and Torres ahead of Lucas and Babel every time.

Harry J {ed's note - why not leave Babel in? He scored, he may not have had the best of games, but him and Ngog deserve a chance to prove they can do it. If it doesn't work then you have Gerrard and Torres to come off the bench when the opposition is tiring and they can tear them to shreds.}

The biggest boost Newcastle could possibly have would be to see G and T on the bench. Play them from the off and take the initiative. The Newcastle fans and players will still remember the hammering we gave them last time we were at St James. Lucas and Babel can come on when we are 3 up.

Harry J {ed's note - the best way to kill off a team is to drop players who have come into the team and been part of a winning performance. Newcastle are simply not good enough for us to worry about what kind of boost they might get or not. Let's worry about what is best for our team for a change.}

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07 Dec 2010 10:54:56
Why do we as LFC fans always do this?

I've heard it so many times now, "He isn't a good enough gentleman to wear the shirt".

If Suarez came to Anfield - would you all boycott the games then?

Don't get me wrong, i also don't like his attitude, but i just feel as though we as fans need to grow up.

Another example who fits the bill perfectly is Andy Carrol.

as if we're all perfect gentlemen. .

If roy wants to buy them both - let him do so! and accept it. .
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Why not buy Barton and Cassano aswell and then we can have almost half the team missing at the same time through suspension or fallouts.

MUSHROOM

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07 Dec 2010 10:51:50
The shameful antics of Saurez after been sent off for deliberate handball against Ghana in the World Cup Quarter final and celebrating the missed penalty by Ghana really sticks in my throat. I don't really want him in a Liverpool shirt. A bad sport in my view.

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but a winner?
All the best teams have players in them who push very close to the edge, and will go to any length to secure a win.
If we were 1-0 up in the CL final against the scumbags and he did the same, I wouldn't be asking for him to be bombed out of the club. . {ed's note - being a cheat is not the same as being a winner. Most cheats do so because it is the easy option, the last thing I want is a player who thinks about what is easiest.}

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Had that goal gone in, Uruguay would have been out of the WC but his actions not only prevented defeat but took them to the WC Semi Final. . . .

You don't play in a WC quarter final every week. . . its a once in a life time opportunity. . . .So its the pinnacle of their career. . .Unlike in England, Spain, Italy, France, Germany and to an extent Argentina and Brazil, most of the fans desparately want their country to progress as far as possible, as they are not privileged to have a good football league in their country. . . .

So wot he did was for himself and for his countrymen. . .

Lets leave honesty and sportsman spirit to club football. . . {ed's note - perhaps you think that was a one off incident, but he is a player renowned for his diving, spitting and general cheating throughout his career. The lad is just a cheat and did what he did because it is natural to him to cheat first and foremost. Personally I would prefer to see honesty and sportsmanship kept in all sports and the day when it becomes ok to cheat is the day I stop bothering with sport. If you are going to accept diving as ok, then why not bribing refs? After all it is just a step on from conning him to paying him off.}

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07 Dec 2010 10:36:04
{ed's note - I just hope Gerrard doesn't just waltz back into the team. Great player that he is, it would do the team good to see that no one is assured of a place.}

If you look at things that way Babel should start on saturday and Torres will be on the bench.

Gerrard and Torres ahead of Lucas and Babel every time.

Harry J {ed's note - why not leave Babel in? He scored, he may not have had the best of games, but him and Ngog deserve a chance to prove they can do it. If it doesn't work then you have Gerrard and Torres to come off the bench when the opposition is tiring and they can tear them to shreds.}

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07 Dec 2010 10:34:49
Liverpool Rumours
The shameful antics of Saurez after been sent off for deliberate handball against Ghana in the World Cup Quarter final and celebrating the missed penalty by Ghana really sticks in my throat. I don't really want him in a Liverpool shirt. A bad sport in my view.

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but a winner?
All the best teams have players in them who push very close to the edge, and will go to any length to secure a win.
If we were 1-0 up in the CL final against the scumbags and he did the same, I wouldn't be asking for him to be bombed out of the club. . {ed's note - being a cheat is not the same as being a winner. Most cheats do so because it is the easy option, the last thing I want is a player who thinks about what is easiest.}

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07 Dec 2010 10:31:46
07 Dec 2010 10:04:26
Just a reminder to all those who are getting slightly carried away with Lucas. Look how well he played against Chelsea, and then he was awful again against Wigan and Stoke. His performances reflect how the rest of the team is playing and his better games are at home. He doesn't have the ability to take a game by the scruff of the neck when things are going wrong.
If Gerrard is fit on saturday I think Roy should go for an unsettled Newcastle from the off by playing 4-4-2 with Stevie and Meireles in the middle and Lucas on the bench. If Lucas does start however, it should be back to 4-5-1 with Gerrard just behind Torres.

Harry J

Completely disagree! Lucas is never gonna take a game by the scruff of the neck! He doesn't play in a position to do so. He was also very good away to Spurs. Also we should stick to a winning team against Newcastle with a 4-4-2 & leave Gerrard & Torres on the bench. We've got a reasonable head of steam up & it's very encouraging to see us win without Gerrard, Torres & Carra.

Ps Possibly the first time last night that Ngog anticipated something happening in the box Ed?

The Irish Rover {ed's note - he still didn't anticipate mate, but he did well when it came his way and maybe it will give him the hint to move in future in the box.}

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07 Dec 2010 10:20:55
Liverpool Rumours
Well i for one believe that lucas is shaping up nicely. Looks physically stronger, can pass a ball. Well played son. The other would be Merieles, top notch that lad, great signing, Ed, anyone agree?

Muzmacol YNWA {ed's note - I just hope Gerrard doesn't just waltz back into the team. Great player that he is, it would do the team good to see that no one is assured of a place.}

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07 Dec 2010 10:20:23
Watching the game again and Kuyt seemed to lose the ball from bad touch about 80% of the time.
Should he be a squad player for the big games when we need work rate like the Chelsea game? ?

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07 Dec 2010 10:17:39
To mushroom I'm not saying Lucas didn't play well last night, but are you telling me that u would b happy if Lucas stayed first choice. Or would you rather we signed an alonso type of player? People are saying we should sign banega so would Lucas start in front of him? If we sign another striker we play 2 upfront, which means Stevie plays in the middle would u have Lucas or miereles nxt to him?

im not mushroom but i will say raul and lucas have been fantastic so no stevie DOES NOT automatically get a place in the middle he has to fight for his place now (good thing tho), and why buy benager if lucas is starting to come good, what if it takes banega 3/ 4 yrs to settle, lucas was a MASSIVE talent in brazil yet he needed time, overall -

no i would not but banega for the sake of it
and stevie needs to fight for his place in the team as does nando, carra is back up at best now.

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07 Dec 2010 10:17:11
Liverpool Rumours
Why exactly are you sorry? I don't imagine this is true for one minute but let's just say it is for the sake of this discussion. NESV paper over the cracks and sell us on for a profit. In fact it's quite hard, in football, to paper over cracks, because they are made apparent at least once a week. To paper over the cracks they would have to make us in a good standing with regards to the league as league standings don't lie. To do that they are going to have to buy players that are better than the ones they intend on replacing. Also if they want to maximise the desirability of the club they will probably want to build a new or renovate the current stadium. They are then going to want a massive fee for the club probably close to what Hicks and Gillette wanted originally. The only people that could afford and are willing to pay that price are going to be ones that really want a football club in the first place and also be and mega wealthy.

So to sum up they are going to have to turn Liverpool FC as club around as we at present are not as desirable as we were a couple of years ago as we are not competing for top honours. The only thing that makes us desirable is the Fan Base. So if NESV want to make us successful again and then sell us to a mega rich owner then fine by me. Thank you NESV for turning us around.

Again Its clearly not true as I doubt NESV would of gone to all that trouble with the court case and angering there Red Sox baseball fans who believe LFC going to be a drain on their teams finance, unless they really wanted to own and make another success story.
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I take it you two idiots either work highly with NESV or are amazingly physic or simply just guessing. I bet it's the guessing game.
Nobody knows what the future will hold with the yanks in charge, just like the yank previous owners at the same stage.
Guess work just make you pair look like a couple of planks

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Why is the moron above criticising the further above post? The argument from the start has clearly been stated as hypothetical. The word imagine should give you a clue.

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07 Dec 2010 10:15:35
Liverpool Rumours
Why do we as LFC fans always do this?

I've heard it so many times now, "He isn't a good enough gentleman to wear the shirt".

If Suarez came to Anfield - would you all boycott the games then?

Don't get me wrong, i also don't like his attitude, but i just feel as though we as fans need to grow up.

Another example who fits the bill perfectly is Andy Carrol.

as if we're all perfect gentlemen. .

If roy wants to buy them both - let him do so! and accept it. .

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07 Dec 2010 10:15:24
Miereles was great last night. Still think we need 2-3 players in Jan. Striker, Winger, DMC.

Honda
Mata
Banega

Think we might get one of these.

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07 Dec 2010 10:13:10
To mushroom I'm not saying Lucas didn't play well last night, but are you telling me that u would b happy if Lucas stayed first choice. Or would you rather we signed an alonso type of player? People are saying we should sign banega so would Lucas start in front of him? If we sign another striker we play 2 upfront, which means Stevie plays in the middle would u have Lucas or miereles nxt to him?
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With how Lucas and Miereles played together the last 2 games, I would keep them in the middle. I would play Setvie G on the right as Kuyt is a waste of space. I would not sign Benega and use the money to buy a descent winger and striker. My choices would be either Honda/ Sanchez for the winger and either Llorente/ Toivonen as striker. Oh and a descent left back too.

MUSHROOM

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07 Dec 2010 10:08:35
Liverpool Rumours
Why exactly are you sorry? I don't imagine this is true for one minute but let's just say it is for the sake of this discussion. NESV paper over the cracks and sell us on for a profit. In fact it's quite hard, in football, to paper over cracks, because they are made apparent at least once a week. To paper over the cracks they would have to make us in a good standing with regards to the league as league standings don't lie. To do that they are going to have to buy players that are better than the ones they intend on replacing. Also if they want to maximise the desirability of the club they will probably want to build a new or renovate the current stadium. They are then going to want a massive fee for the club probably close to what Hicks and Gillette wanted originally. The only people that could afford and are willing to pay that price are going to be ones that really want a football club in the first place and also be and mega wealthy.

So to sum up they are going to have to turn Liverpool FC as club around as we at present are not as desirable as we were a couple of years ago as we are not competing for top honours. The only thing that makes us desirable is the Fan Base. So if NESV want to make us successful again and then sell us to a mega rich owner then fine by me. Thank you NESV for turning us around.

Again Its clearly not true as I doubt NESV would of gone to all that trouble with the court case and angering there Red Sox baseball fans who believe LFC going to be a drain on their teams finance, unless they really wanted to own and make another success story.
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I take it you two idiots either work highly with NESV or are amazingly physic or simply just guessing. I bet it's the guessing game.
No body knows what the future will hold with the yanks in charge, just like the yank previous owners at the same stage.
Guess work just make you pair look like a couple of planks

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If you read my post again you'l find i use the word 'doub't' not 'definatley know' fool. Of course no one knows but my post was an argument against someone saying they definatley know they are going to sell us on. And again, looking at the structure of NESV, there history invloved with sport and the trouble and expense that they went to buy us then i DOUBT that the origonal post is true. plank.

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07 Dec 2010 10:04:26
Just a reminder to all those who are getting slightly carried away with Lucas. Look how well he played against Chelsea, and then he was awful again against Wigan and Stoke. His performances reflect how the rest of the team is playing and his better games are at home. He doesn't have the ability to take a game by the scruff of the neck when things are going wrong.
If Gerrard is fit on saturday I think Roy should go for an unsettled Newcastle from the off by playing 4-4-2 with Stevie and Meireles in the middle and Lucas on the bench. If Lucas does start however, it should be back to 4-5-1 with Gerrard just behind Torres.

Harry J

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07 Dec 2010 09:47:52
Stop making apologies for players (Babel) who have SQUANDERED the chances they've been given. Liverpool Football club is not a charity. TAKE the chances you are given - because if you don't - there ARE OTHER PLAYERS.

Personally - I think Babel has had one too many chances - and he's shown me everything I need to see. Not good enough for LFC - good enough for a mid-table PL team (Villa, Fulham etc).

RedTed

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07 Dec 2010 09:37:02
Liverpool Rumours
Iam really worried about the young players we have coming through at our mighty club there r players like spearing and darby who just are not gonna make the grade im sorry but they just aint they r championship players at best and for wilson and pacheco and ecclestone they have to be given more game time because i think they can improve if they get some games and conor coady and tony silva and ngoo and suso are the next generation they all look terrific i was sad to see dalle valle sold in the deal to fulham for konchesky why on earth would u sell him are u mad roy the kid is gonna be a great striker we will regret this decision and im sad to say it but martin kelly and ayala are not a good standard either i think they both look out of there depth in the first team they would be good players in the championship also, just remeber jack hobbs the so called next england and liverpool centre back quoted by the narrow minded rafa benitez when he signed him from crewe. {ed's note - you mean the Jack Hobbs that was Leicester's best player last season and attracted offers from half the Prem in the summer?}

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07 Dec 2010 09:30:14
Also starting to relent to allowing Roy Hodgson to Prove himself, He will akes mistakes at first (obviously), But he'll learn the Big club mentality soon enough.
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big improvement last night but the home form is not the real problem. until roy changes his negative, boring away tactics i will still not be convinced that roy is the man. his away record over the years does nothing to make me feel optimistic. would love to be proved wrong.
last night showed again what a good partnership is developing between lucas and mereiles. will be interesting to see what roy does when gerrard is fit.
big steve177

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07 Dec 2010 09:26:34
To reply to the comment from the fellow supporter who said that i don't understand our football club u r wrong my friend i have watched lucas on many acations and i don't see him contributing to the team he is no fabregas who when he was brought to arsenal at a tender age broke into there first team that had some of the best midfielders in the world and established himself i mean when mascherano and alonso were the midfield partnership i did'nt think he covered himself in glory or pushed them for the first team spot and the only reason a section of kopites r behind him now is that the other midfielders are not at the quality of alonso and mascherano in the team but u have to be honest lucas does not score enough goals he passes sideways all the time he makes silly fouls in dangerous areas and does'nt drive the midfield at all watching him and poulson together is like watching to ray wilkins both are crab like players everything sideways so u say my knowledge is poor but u did not give me a reason on why we should keep him when there is other midfielders in the world who look foward and pass and control the midfield i just think we have to many of these so called holding midfielders at the moment in our team and we need to replace him with a more stylish midfield man like a martinez of bilbao ganso of santos someone with vision to feed our front men do u not agree with me kopite now and also do u not think lucas is alot like anderson at man utd got potential but just will never fulfill that potential i mean he is 23 going on 24 and he does not look like a fabregas or alonso to me so that's what i think on the comment from yourself saying our some of our supporters want to keep him around

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07 Dec 2010 09:21:33
Have you seen the fixtures for the next couple of weeks:

Sunday 12th - Tottenham vs Chelsea
Monday 13th - Manchester Utd vs Arsenal
Sunday 19th - Manchester Utd vs Chelsea
Monday 27th - Arsenal vs Chelsea

The top teams will be dropping points everywhere, whereas we have already played the top 5 teams! We will be up the table in no time!

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07 Dec 2010 09:15:29
Liverpool Rumours
What did everybody who watched Sky Sports last night think of their coverage? I thought it was very pro Aston Villa with former Villa players Gray and Macinally seemingly desperate for Liverpool to fail. {ed's note - am I the only one who thinks Sky picks their 'experts' by just how boring they are and how little actual knowledge of the game they have?}

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07 Dec 2010 09:13:26
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Nice to see Xabi Alonso watching the match last night. Just shows Liverpool is in his blood. It's contagious once you pull on the red shirt. Could he return in the future? Hope so.

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07 Dec 2010 09:10:55
Credit where credits due - Well done Roy Hodgson.

Credits where credits due - Well done in my opinion man of the match Lucas Leiva.

Credit where credits due - Well done Maxi Rodriguez.

Credit where credits due - Well done Martin Skirtl.

Credit where credits due - Well done David Ngog.

Credit where credits due - Well done Raul Mereiles.

Credit wher credits due - Well done Ryan Babel.

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07 Dec 2010 08:37:57
We have all slagged roy off so far this season but some of the players have got to take some of the blame they just have'nt performed. is'nt funny how january is coming up and and last night babel maxi and all the other wasters start performing. i think roy has done his best with mediocre players got us through in europe with kids, and on the europe thing he has given those so called first teamers a rest for league games and what have they done got us to 8th so that tells u everything about these first team players even torres just plays when he wants to play the only 2 who give there all is gerrard and carragher and all ways will do. i mean 20 goals scored and 19 conceded that just goes to show the other players are not contributing my list of outs would be lucas, babel, maxi, agger, aurelio, poulson, spearing, konchesky, jovanovic, j cole, all of these listed are overpaid and and there careers are coming to an end apart from babel and lucas and agger these 3 are just carp people moan about skrtel but i think he is better than agger on anyday and people say give babel a chance we don't want players to keep getting chances we want these highly paid players to start earning there money and i think our strategy will be a youthful one for the 1 main reason that young players are hungry and want to work hard to establish themselves in the spotlight it is a trick ajax and arsenal have used for years we need to breed youngsters and buy qualitie ones to also the difference with our team to the other youth projects of arsenal and ajax is that we won't need to sell these players at 25+like arsenal and ajax because we will pay a higher wage bracket than them to keep hopefully these young stars we r gonna get. i know in january we r gonna get at least three french based young players trust me adil rami, eden hazard, yann m'vila watch this space
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You started off really well until you said get rid of Lucas. Also how can you say Skrtel is better than Agger? You obviously prefer the long ball game of what we have been playing at the start of the season. I'm sorry, but I thought this site was for football fans not hoof it ones.

MUSHROOM

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07 Dec 2010 08:35:41
To mushroom I'm not saying Lucas didn't play well last night, but are you telling me that u would b happy if Lucas stayed first choice. Or would you rather we signed an alonso type of player? People are saying we should sign banega so would Lucas start in front of him? If we sign another striker we play 2 upfront, which means Stevie plays in the middle would u have Lucas or miereles nxt to him?

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07 Dec 2010 08:31:00
To those idiots who are stil critising babel, what do expect 4rm a guy who score in game &get benched in d next match.Check-out nani dey play him in evry game until he became fertile but we alwayz bench &criticise babel whereas poulsen, maxi, greek, skrtel&konchesky make mistakes & dey applauded 4 it. BACK OFF BABEL PROUD KOPITE

i agree to an extent, , u see babel yeah has not been given chance consistently enough, , that i agree with the problem was when he was getting games he was moping around like he couldnt be bothered being lazy and not making an effort, , , 2night hes shown what he can do and deserves more chances upfront with ngog or torres when hes back
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It's only taken him 3 years. How long do you keep the faith with someone. Yes he had, what I thought, was his best game but still not LFC standard. Let's not forget it was a very understrength Villa team.

MUSHROOM

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07 Dec 2010 08:30:09
We have all slagged roy off so far this season but some of the players have got to take some of the blame they just have'nt performed. is'nt funny how january is coming up and and last night babel maxi and all the other wasters start performing. i think roy has done his best with mediocre players got us through in europe with kids, and on the europe thing he has given those so called first teamers a rest for league games and what have they done got us to 8th so that tells u everything about these first team players even torres just plays when he wants to play the only 2 who give there all is gerrard and carragher and all ways will do. i mean 20 goals scored and 19 conceded that just goes to show the other players are not contributing my list of outs would be lucas, babel, maxi, agger, aurelio, poulson, spearing, konchesky, jovanovic, j cole, all of these listed are overpaid and and there careers are coming to an end apart from babel and lucas and agger these 3 are just carp people moan about skrtel but i think he is better than agger on anyday and people say give babel a chance we don't want players to keep getting chances we want these highly paid players to start earning there money and i think our strategy will be a youthful one for the 1 main reason that young players are hungry and want to work hard to establish themselves in the spotlight it is a trick ajax and arsenal have used for years we need to breed youngsters and buy qualitie ones to also the difference with our team to the other youth projects of arsenal and ajax is that we won't need to sell these players at 25+like arsenal and ajax because we will pay a higher wage bracket than them to keep hopefully these young stars we r gonna get. i know in january we r gonna get at least three french based young players trust me adil rami, eden hazard, yann m'vila watch this space

i stoped trusting you the moment you memtioned lucas, obviously u dnt watch any football i can guarentee that ALL liverpool fans want lucas around.

thank god ppl like u dnt actually get a say in our club.

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07 Dec 2010 08:27:59
Liverpool Rumours
I thought I'd leave it till this morning to comment on last nights game.

The good:

Ngog is full of running; I thought he took his goal well and some of his link up play was v good.

Lucas & Meireles, linking up well together always offering options (in terms of moving into space to offer/ receive a pass); some of the passes out wide was sloppy but not sure how much the weather affected this (I only mention this is if we want to win the premiership that needs to be addressed) early days but these 2 have to be first choice CM's.

Poulsen; didn't make it on the pitch - good decision Roy.

Babel; ok performance (goal was offside but I'm not complaining as we've had that against us previously) at least he made himself available and jumped when the ball was put long; hopefully this will improve his confidence.

Johnson; great going forward and also defended ok as well. made himself available when Kuyt/ Cole moved inside so gave lucas and meireles an option.

Maxi; I thought his general play and keeping ball possession was good; took his goal very well and over the last month or so has had far more opportunities at goal.

The bad:

The Greek; now hear me out, how many times did he have his arms around the opposition players and didn't get penalised for it once; he's not going to get away with that away from home and a better team will punish that whether it be via a freekick or penalty.

Kuyt; what can I say, it doesn't matter how far you run if you haven't got a first touch. Now to be fair he looked completely out of sorts but he was shocking; normally when he gets back to help the full back but every pass seemed to go past him today.

Overall not bad considering the team facing us but I wish we would sit higher up the pitch and also I wish we had a bit of pace/ creativity on one of the wings (preferably left wing as Johnson is a better attacking full back than Konchesky).

Hoola

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07 Dec 2010 08:20:05
HONDA-12M
JARVIS-7M
BENZEMA-18M

SUMMER INS

MATA-17M
A.JOHNSON-20M
BENEGA-13M/ PARKER-10M
MERTSACKER-12M
TAIWO-FREE
SRNA-FREE
HULK-17M

JAN TEAM

. . . . . . . .REINA. . . . . . . . .

JOHNSON. . KELLY. .AGGER. . AURELLIO

HONDA. . MEIRELES. GERRARD. .JARVIS

. . . .BENZEMA. . .TORRES. .

Quality team capable of finishing top 3

SUMMER TEAM

. . . . . . . . . .REINA. . . . . . . .

SRNA. . KELLY. .AYALA. . . TAIWO.

A.JOHNSON. BENEGA. GERRARD. MATA.

. . . . . . BENZEMA. . .TORRES.

Quality team capable of winning epl

problem is mate we was hoping for real rumours, and not ur EDITED version of football manager.

also ur valuations are more comical than lee evans.

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07 Dec 2010 08:19:38
Liverpool Rumours
We have all slagged roy off so far this season but some of the players have got to take some of the blame they just have'nt performed. is'nt funny how january is coming up and and last night babel maxi and all the other wasters start performing. i think roy has done his best with mediocre players got us through in europe with kids, and on the europe thing he has given those so called first teamers a rest for league games and what have they done got us to 8th so that tells u everything about these first team players even torres just plays when he wants to play the only 2 who give there all is gerrard and carragher and all ways will do. i mean 20 goals scored and 19 conceded that just goes to show the other players are not contributing my list of outs would be lucas, babel, maxi, agger, aurelio, poulson, spearing, konchesky, jovanovic, j cole, all of these listed are overpaid and and there careers are coming to an end apart from babel and lucas and agger these 3 are just carp people moan about skrtel but i think he is better than agger on anyday and people say give babel a chance we don't want players to keep getting chances we want these highly paid players to start earning there money and i think our strategy will be a youthful one for the 1 main reason that young players are hungry and want to work hard to establish themselves in the spotlight it is a trick ajax and arsenal have used for years we need to breed youngsters and buy qualitie ones to also the difference with our team to the other youth projects of arsenal and ajax is that we won't need to sell these players at 25+like arsenal and ajax because we will pay a higher wage bracket than them to keep hopefully these young stars we r gonna get. i know in january we r gonna get at least three french based young players trust me adil rami, eden hazard, yann m'vila watch this space

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07 Dec 2010 08:16:37
Just had a thought and wondered what others thought of it? Maybe the Russia World Cup will benefit us us indirectlty. If Abramovich gets heavily involved in it (and he has been so far) he may lose interest in his beloved Chelski and they begin to slip more than they are atm? Opens up the top four even more?
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Wishfull thinking mate. He employs people to worry about the club when he is not there.

MUSHROOM

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07 Dec 2010 08:14:58
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07 Dec 2010 07:04:58
Liverpool Rumours
Jol already primed to become Newcastle Manager , will have a knock on effect to Liverpool

Ajax in severe financial trouble, and would have sold players in the summer if Jol went to Fulham

Babel if he leaves Liverpool would like , to go back to Ajax.Liverpool scouts have been at Ajax over the last few months

Watching

LUIS SUAREZ, Babel + £10-£18m for Suarez, and evry ones happy

i won't be happy with that, suarez has an appaling sense of sportsmanship and would drag liverpools name through the mud almost as much as H&G, no thank you, but id either van der wiel, erikson, lodiero, alderwield, they all good players, one of them one be better option than luis suarez.

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07 Dec 2010 08:11:12
Just watched first half of game on Lfc tv and have got to say I've been impressed so if it's not broke don't fix it personally I would start same team next game and then put the pressure on gerrard and Torres to perform and impress as long as all players are performing team selection should be on performances and not name or rep and if the worst should happen gerrard and Torres can come on with a point to prove any one agree or is it just me Ed what you think. Redchris {ed's note - I fully agree mate, if players perform they should keep their speck in the team, no matter how big a name has to sit out.}
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I absolutely agree. That means that Kuyt should be dropped as he was worse than useless. Play Cole there or even Gerrard as he can deliver a killer ball.

MUSHROOM

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07 Dec 2010 08:02:56
Liverpool Rumours
JAN INS

HONDA-12M
JARVIS-7M
BENZEMA-18M

SUMMER INS

MATA-17M
A.JOHNSON-20M
BENEGA-13M/ PARKER-10M
MERTSACKER-12M
TAIWO-FREE
SRNA-FREE
HULK-17M

JAN TEAM

. . . . . . . .REINA. . . . . . . . .

JOHNSON. . KELLY. .AGGER. . AURELLIO

HONDA. . MEIRELES. GERRARD. .JARVIS

. . . .BENZEMA. . .TORRES. .

Quality team capable of finishing top 3

SUMMER TEAM

. . . . . . . . . .REINA. . . . . . . .

SRNA. . KELLY. .AYALA. . . TAIWO.

A.JOHNSON. BENEGA. GERRARD. MATA.

. . . . . . BENZEMA. . .TORRES.

Quality team capable of winning epl

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NO WAY WILL HULK, HONDA, GLEN, AGGER OR MEIRELES SIT ON THE BENCH SO THATS A NON STARTER

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07 Dec 2010 07:58:21
07 Dec 2010 07:51:48
I agree Lucas is looking a better player but he still isn't good enough. Villa were playing a lot of kids tonight and there hardly setting the league on fire. I don't think we should sell him tho as he should be goin up in value, he will do as backup.
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Lucas is one of our most consistent players this season and was last season too. To say he is not good enough means you know jack all. Lucas and Miereles ran the middle of midfield last night.

MUSHROOM

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Well said Mushroom. The person who posted thefirst message must of been watching a different game. Not only did they boss the game last night but they played well against Spurs too.

RedDan

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07 Dec 2010 07:51:48
I agree Lucas is looking a better player but he still isn't good enough. Villa were playing a lot of kids tonight and there hardly setting the league on fire. I don't think we should sell him tho as he should be goin up in value, he will do as backup.
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Lucas is one of our most consistent players this season and was last season too. To say he is not good enough means you know jack all. Lucas and Miereles ran the middle of midfield last night.

MUSHROOM

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07 Dec 2010 07:30:46
Just had a thought and wondered what others thought of it? Maybe the Russia World Cup will benefit us us indirectlty. If Abramovich gets heavily involved in it (and he has been so far) he may lose interest in his beloved Chelski and they begin to slip more than they are atm? Opens up the top four even more?

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07 Dec 2010 06:47:05
Liverpool Rumours
I don't understand ManCity. Adam Johnson is probably one of the best English players in the world and he sits on the bench half the time! I mentioned on their main website a year ago to spend that measly 6 mill on him and now I think they should spend 14 mill to get Adam Johnson, 12 mill for Ola Toivonen and 8 mill for Charles N'Zogbia (may be 8 mill for Scott Parker as well, but that would mean losing Lucas, who I've come to respect recently)

come on Fans, stop with the Hazard "garbage talk". He doesn't want to come here (Arsenal, ManUtd and Real are his desired destinations). Also stop with the Honda talk as he's not proven himself in the Russian league as well (sorry Ed. I know you want him here). I truly do believe we should bring a Asian player in the name of Yong from Monaco. Mata is not leaving Spain unless it's a big money move a la Silva.

In's
Toivonen 12-14 mill
N'Zogbia 8-9 mill
Adam Johnson 14-16 mill (World Class Player)
Yong (Monaco) 7 mill

Out's
Aquilani 14 mill
Babel 10 mill (now is the time to sell)
Jovanovic 5 mill (Roy doesn't like him :(
Poulsen 2 mill
Konchesky 3 mill (Probably won't happen)
Plessis 1 mill
Degan 1 mil
ElZhar 2 mill
Itanje 0.5 mill
Bouzanis 1 mill
Insua 5 mill
Approximately Net spent only 3 mill

SIM THE RED

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07 Dec 2010 06:04:14
I agree Lucas is looking a better player but he still isn't good enough. Villa were playing a lot of kids tonight and there hardly setting the league on fire. I don't think we should sell him tho as he should be goin up in value, he will do as backup.

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07 Dec 2010 05:48:32
A class through ball from Lucas Leiva to Ryan Babel against Aston Villa .

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07 Dec 2010 05:45:57
I am so proud to say Lucas Leiva is a Liverpool player, Because no matter how many times we have all critisised him (and we ALL have), He has been loyal to the shirt, He has continually worked hard to convince us no matter how many times we tell him not to bother its not worth it, He has shown us the REAL Liverpool way.

Lucas = A star is born.

Also starting to relent to allowing Roy Hodgson to Prove himself, He will akes mistakes at first (obviously), But he'll learn the Big club mentality soon enough.

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07 Dec 2010 05:20:04
Just to add to my post a little earlier , I think Martin Joll is going to land on his feet at Newcastle , with a point to prove to Tottenham Hotspur , I think to wish him well at St James Park , it is certainly the better opportunity compared to the Fulham job he was desperately trying to accept .

He might even take a few Ajax players and Dutch internationals to the North East giving the Geordie fans good football again .

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07 Dec 2010 05:14:24
Quite amazing during these less than successful times that Pepe Reina has achieved 100 clean sheets quicker than the most successful goalkeepers in LFC history , even though Reina is often left out of the lesser domestic cup games .

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07 Dec 2010 03:31:22
Good performance from the lads. Really happy for lucas, he is becoming a beast in the midfield. Where would stevie play now? where do you thnk? up top with torres. . No?

P.S.- Many congrats to nando.

VM YNWA

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07 Dec 2010 03:13:02
Liverpool Rumours
Latest @ Pakistan millionare who previously trying to buy LIverpool now looking to buy Everton after fail to takeover Liverpool. And willing to splash 50m to David Moyes id bid is succesfull. Thats big money for bluenoses

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07 Dec 2010 02:24:20
As I sit here and look at the league table, sat in 8th place and 7 points off 4th position, my heart sinks and my head says "not good enough."

BUT. .When my eyes drift up, I see we are 10 points off top spot!

In the next 3 games, Chelsea play Spurs, United and Arsenal. There will be points dropped by all these teams.

Our next 8 games, on paper, are "winnable" (I know, Wigan and Blackpool were winnable but bear with me) After that, we play Chelsea, who we have already beaten and they appear to be vulnerable at the moment and perhaps lacking strength in depth.

IF we can start a good run over the next 8 games AND add 2-3 quality signings in January, keep the momentum going, then, who knows. .?

First we need to address the away form, starting at Newcastle as our away form is currently the exact opposite of our home form! Home W5 D2 L1 - Away W1 D2 L5.

If we can do this, perhaps this season won't be as bad as we first feared.

Ever the optimist - Matt S - YNWA

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07 Dec 2010 02:03:07
Liverpool Rumours
Alright, we may diasagree on Mohamady but he plays out of poisition in Sunderland.
Did you see and of Shikabala? :)

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07 Dec 2010 01:48:06
Only 5 months ago Martin Jol was desperate to leave Ajax in order to take over the 'Fulham' post , now he has actually managed to relieve himself of his contractual obligations , presumiably to take over at Newcastle , he will have a much bigger job there .

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07 Dec 2010 01:32:49
Liverpool Rumours
Dont you agree Lucas is the new Dunga?

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07 Dec 2010 01:22:02
Exactly Ed and IMO the team needs motivation at the min and this system means star names are motivated to win and keep places because they know they are not always safe and it shows fringe players they will be rewarded if they perform therefore motivating them whether Roy sees it that way is yet to be seen but I doubt he will. Redchris

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07 Dec 2010 01:21:32
Liverpool Rumours
Hodgson should go for it against newcastle 433
reina
johnson kelly skrtel aurelio

gerrard lucas meireles

babel torres ngog

the pace of the front 3 would have collocini s* tting himself along with the others they would struggle with just torres but 3 forwards with pace and can score.u then have johnson and aurelio covering flanks.3 solid midfielders.newcastle are there for the takin roy play this formation.then 2nd half kuyt n jovanovic on 4 babel n ngog so fresh players for a tired back 4.id say 5-0 at least DORSET RED

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07 Dec 2010 00:51:53
Just watched first half of game on Lfc tv and have got to say I've been impressed so if it's not broke don't fix it personally I would start same team next game and then put the pressure on gerrard and Torres to perform and impress as long as all players are performing team selection should be on performances and not name or rep and if the worst should happen gerrard and Torres can come on with a point to prove any one agree or is it just me Ed what you think. Redchris {ed's note - I fully agree mate, if players perform they should keep their speck in the team, no matter how big a name has to sit out.}

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07 Dec 2010 00:50:17
I have been very critical of Lucas in the past, however he seems very calm and assured on the ball at present and is not giving up possession like he used to. I think he is playing better as part if a straight midfield 2 rather then the more defensive role he has been asked to play in the past. His attitude is fantastic aswell, if more of our players had his attitude then we wouldn't have so much dead wood on our books. Merilles played well, prob man of the match in my opinion with Lucas a close second. In the past I would of sold Lucas but not now I think he is a good edition to the squad and is starting to live up to the hype when he first came here. He still has some work to do (as do most players) but with his attitude he will almost certainly keep improving. After all the criticism he has had off me, and others, that is to his credit.

Bob loblaw

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07 Dec 2010 00:46:23
I think its now time to give roy a chance, its starting to come good and with a couple of good signings in jan can be even better, i know he can play defensive but maybe he just thinks that with this team its better to be safe, fulham are struggling now with mark hughes so maybe roy is better than we are giving him credit for, also its nice to look on other rumour sights, like chelsea they are panicking now because roman is not now an open chequebook and they are calling man city moneybags city, lol, arent some fickle people about with short memories,
jimmybosun

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06 Dec 2010 23:59:50
Liverpool Rumours
Please agree or not if you think Lucas had a good game tonight? looks like the kid is coming good!

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