Liverpool Banter Archive May 07 2017

07 May 2017 23:20:23
Haven't even seen the game yet today, was at a christening and no football on in the function room. This is far from motd fever here but what about Romeu? Everytime I see him play he gets bether and better. I personally think he's going to become a top footballer.

07 May 2017 23:52:12
They didn't touch the ball enough for romeu to have a diffrence. mind you we made little diffrence either!

08 May 2017 01:02:58
Romeu had at least 7-8 Saints players helping him out. And our attacking play did not require him to be at his best either. Cannot judge him o this game at all.

07 May 2017 22:59:58
Hi Eds,
I don't post much, but wondered whether either of ...

{Ed002's Note - Try the appropriate page please.}

07 May 2017 21:11:53
clyne is useless. need a lb as milner cuts in every time. Coutinho. if he wants to go let him. one trick pony now cuts in for a long range effort. Origi. i will pack your bags if you leave this summer. 77% possession. if we had played all week againat southampton we wouldn't have scored. all bark and no bite. people saying about lovren and matip and migs need to look at it. our defence is ok. but if we had had the attack who could break down these so called lower teams we would be a lot higher up the table! don't say origi is young. so was owen and fowler when they put on the shirt.

07 May 2017 21:22:38
Craigu, did it ever occur to you that Origi was left on his own, swamped in a sea of Saints defenders, with no service from midfield nor the flanks? Your post is spot on (our FB's need replacing FAST) in parts BUT a bit of perspective is needed before slating a 22 yr old boy who was left at sea on his own. As for Couts, really don't understand your rant about him cos the boy worked his socks off.

07 May 2017 21:45:48
He is young. He will improve. Today he had no space to run in behind and no crosses to attack and ATM he's not good enough to magic something up on his own. But neither were the rest of the team. Way to back your team.

07 May 2017 21:46:51
What was Coutinho meant to do today? Play a through ball onto a run that no one's made? Dribble through six Southampton players by himself?

07 May 2017 21:46:53
Our defence needs work. Don't let one game blind you of that fact. Also continho is a top class player and far from a one trick pony.

What I will agree with is the full backs need replacing and from all the rumours it seems klopp is aware of this.

And I too believe we need a top class striker to beat these lower teams. Put continho mane and Firmino behind a top class goal scorer and it will give the team belief and direction against these sides.

Lately I too have been thinking origi is not going to make it. He is young and could well prove me wrong but I personally would be open to selling him

If we get top four I think we should make a big push to get aguero. It's not every day a player of his quality comes on the market. I'm sure it won't happen but a man can dream.

07 May 2017 22:19:05
Coutinho is our best player by a very long way. When he is constantly cutting in and shooting its because the team is not helping him in any way. He is a brilliant and clever passer too so if the team is giving him options he uses them. Besides how many brilliant long range goals has he scored for us?

07 May 2017 22:49:28
Craig you missed a few of the 11 players out with your slagging there.

07 May 2017 22:59:05
Coutinho is a one trick pony when he plays out of position at left wing. He should be playing deeper where he was so effective for us before brendan start messing everything around. Although i have given up hope of klopp applying such common sense.

07 May 2017 23:06:34
the one thing id put against big divock is he doesn't use his size enough for me you watch people like costa, zlatan, lewandoski, dzecko, kane they will pin an centre back hold him an say go on ping that ball into me il hold it up get runners around me an il lay it off now im not saying he never does it but he needs to do it more that's you beat these teams that sit deep .

07 May 2017 23:47:05
Davey, Aguero is being maybe let go cos he doesn't press nor work hard off the ball, the very reason Studge can't play our system and Firmino and Gab Jesus can, in respective teams. Also, if you are okay with selling a young, clearly talented player who is still raw, learning, scored 10 goals and a bunch of assists this season (in spite of playing minimal minutes), just cos he's not yet the finished article, shows a lack of patience nor will to let a kid that the manager clearly believes in, grow is disappointing. The only CF I remember who was already world class at 22 was the great Ronaldo.

Even Messi and Suarez weren't this great at that age so I propose you let the kid develop and let Klopp work his magic cos he has worked wonders with some of BR's players that many of us said, needed replacing. If you are not ready to persevere with a player that you believe him, you do not deserve the player you want him to become.

08 May 2017 00:48:56
For everyone defending origi. i mentioned owen and fowler coming in young. Rush came from chester, spent a year in the reserves then started banging them in. Hazard and the kid from monaco were ripping that french league apart. origi was voted worst player in the league before he came to us. I know he's 22 but you have to admit at some point he's not going to make it. And he isnt. We have no creativity apart from coutinho. Lalana has peaked also. We need to buy quality to go straight on to the team. Not prospects. We are always rebuilding. The yitanic was built on less time than its taken us to rebuild. that's noce people are defending our players. but the truth is our current squad and first 11 are not up to it.

08 May 2017 08:40:50
Yeah craigu that's why we are third in one of the most competitive leagues in the world, get a grip son. The team does need work but not slagging off, origi is not mbappe nor is he the worse 22yr old in the world.

08 May 2017 09:41:36
craigu, you will be the first person to bitch when Couts leaves us this summer.

We have a good team, the other top 6 teams would struggle against these teams if they parked the bus against them too. Its grimp to watch but they know its our weakness so i don't blame them for doing it i guess. Need to change things up or we ain't getting CL which will make next season even harder for us.

Any money we go to west ham here and they park the bus, They did not against spurs.

08 May 2017 12:15:08
And we know how long the Titanic lasted Craig.
I agree though that our target signing should be 1st team ready.

08 May 2017 12:18:28
Y do you shift someone who is world class for his unpredictable movement between CB's i.e. Firmino?

07 May 2017 19:17:48
Hey if anyone can answer or the Ed's that would be great have Liverpool tried making the kop a singing only I know some of the blokes on there have probably had there season tickets there for 30-40 years but it's killing the atmosphere around anfield the only time it seems to turn up is for the big games and that's great to give the lads that extra boost but in the lower games it is dead and the lads could do with that extra boost in games we can't break them down aswell it would just he nice to get the noise levels up again and move people not interested in singing into a different part of the stadium . just a thought that's all.

{Ed001's Note - there has been numerous discussions about what to do, but nothing has ever been decided that is worthwhile.}

07 May 2017 19:32:08
I think the singing is silly. grown men singing out of tune. It's football not a choir.

07 May 2017 20:43:49
God Walter your a happy soul I must say!

07 May 2017 21:31:25
Aha! I have always suspected it was more quiet these days at anfield and in the kop! But people keep saying its the microphones.

Anywho, i don't understand how an entire stand can become so mute due to "daytrippers" or friends not being able to sit together etc. There must be more to it obviously! But I would say a devoted section for younger fans or just those who will go to sing should be set up. And it needs to be a big portion of the stand. That yellow wall basically doesn't stop pumping no matter what is going on on the field. But anfield can be like a library a lot of the times and you can feel the tension. Must be the same for the players?

07 May 2017 23:40:57
Singing at a football match is silly? Ever heard of atmosphere? The twelfth man? Mate you need to maybe go to a football match instead of just spouting nonsense.

07 May 2017 18:53:22
I know 2 wins will get us there even 1 win but we should be already secured of CL footie from our last 3 home games. Missed peno late goal from bouremouth and letting palace beat us. So many silly dropped points which would have us second. And that's just in the last 3 wks alone. We are so lucky on the other hand that neither utd nor Arsenal haven't been able to capitalise. I am not confident we will win both games but I believe Arsenal will struggle away to Soton and Stoke as they have b4 and drop points in at least 1 of them hopefully both and I believe Utd will lose v Spurs. So if we beat WH we will be 3/ 4 points clear going into final game of season. Us 73 Arsenal 70 and utd 68. So a win Nxt wkend should have us there. Just dissapointed we have to wait longer so I can final get my heart out of my mouth.

07 May 2017 19:33:12
It depends on how much Southampton and Stoke are up for it! If they're not, we could be screwed! I believe they will win their last two home games - Sunderland are a certainty and Everton won't be doing us any favours in that last match!

07 May 2017 19:51:47
Still hard games for them but i think we are all counting on beating a relegated boro team and i do believe that and a point from WH would be enough as i dnt think Arsenal are going to won 4 on the trot but id rather just beat WH and have it done b4 last game even gets here. Even 1 draw out of nxt 2 games for Arsenal means they will be 3 points behind us so fingers crossed.

07 May 2017 20:55:46
Exactly, Cardiff and CKLPool. Interestingly, Saints were pretty dire vs Chelsea and played open football against them. Vs us tho? They played as if their lives depended on them not losing. We shall see how they approach their game vs Arsenal on Wed.

As for the game, it showed me where exactly we need to strengthen. We need better FB's, and Mane like wide forwards on the flanks. Saints knew Couts and Bobby would NEVER get behind them and that our FB's lack quality end product, all of which make us easier to defend against.

Compare that to City vs Palace yesterday who had Sterling and Sane, two speed demons that can get behind them and keeps the defence honest. Mane being missing is what has done us in on this front and the wide position (wide forwards and FB's) need to be addressed first and foremost otherwise, we will be in this position again.

All in all, I think we did not play too badly compared to other games vs parked double decker busses as we created at least 3 chances plus a penalty and showed MUCH better intensity and drive in the second half to win BUT it was NOT to be. Up the Pool!

07 May 2017 21:01:20
At this time more than any we should be focused on the next game.
As for Soton vs Ars; Puel is fighting for his job. Then again, so is Bilic.

07 May 2017 18:17:26
Well I am shocked. This season panned out so different to how I thought. Can't believe we are still in the hunt for top four. Two big wins please.

07 May 2017 17:43:38
What I'd like to see for first team ins and outs for this summer. Most 'outs' speak for themselves. Lucas has played fairly well recently but I still think he'll be off in the summer.

My god though, Clyne is getting worse, he lacks the confidence and ability to do anything with the ball in the opposition half. I think he's become a real weak link in a system where so much is expected of our fullbacks to contribute to attacks.

As for Origi vs Sturridge. I honestly don't think either is good enough for what we want to achieve. Both nice guys and have different qualities but one can't stay fit or be relied on, while the other just isn't good enough right now. One should leave this summer and be replaced by a striker we can get a full season of games out of and will push that 20 goal mark.

Really our best hope for 'outs' though is to hold onto Coutinho and Firmino, easily our 2 best players!

3 players bought 'in' should be the limit really. Anymore than that just causes disruption. I am not saying we don't have other weaknesses (centre back and goalkeeper come to mind! ) but too many changes won't help us build. Spurs have shown minimal changes and building year on year works! So I suggest the below:

OUT:
Sakho
Moreno
Lucas
Clyne
Stewart
Sturridge or Origi
Markovic

IN:
Fullback
Winger
Striker

(Central midfielder - if Henderson can't prove his fitness)

07 May 2017 17:59:54
Didnt think clyne was to bad today to be honest. Origi is the one for me that needs to be replaced.

07 May 2017 18:21:46
Origi has not done enough in the last 3 games to warrant a starting place
Hope Klopp realises and plays Lallana next game
W Ham showed against Spuds that they can set up to frustrate so we may need that quality in final third to open them up.

07 May 2017 21:03:40
Origi did not play well today but he did not get a lot of service either, being swamped in a sea of Saints defenders. I think Lallana will come in for him and Firmino can play centrally where he is much better. The good thing with that is that Studge and Origi will be good options from the bench if need be.

I propose that we all become Saints fans on Wed vs Arsenal cos if Arsenal lose or don't win, we will definitely be in good shape going into the weekend with us palying WH and Arsenal going to Stoke (both very tough games) . We shall see.

07 May 2017 17:30:17
Can someone please explain to me why sly where saying it was out of our hands and that we needed a draw between united and arsenal? United have a game in hand and five behind whilst arsenal have two and are seven behind we still sitting comfortably. one of the games arsenal have is the team we couldn't beat today and Everton and united have Celts Vigo then a wounded spurs then there game in hand is against Southampton a point may not be as bad as we reckon.

07 May 2017 18:04:41
United where 2 ganes in hand and 4 points behind.

They just blew it so its back to us now. 4 points difference and 1 game.

We have to win our last 2 to be certain though because arsenal have 12 possible points and will finish on 75 if we draw and win its 74 for us and city still have 3 games.

07 May 2017 18:19:21
Yeah a real tricky one to understand that.

07 May 2017 18:32:09
United and Arsenal were always going to drop points. Some fans need to stop worrying about what other teams are doing and concentrate on supporting the team they're supposed to support. No we're not playing well, we all know it, even Klopp knows it but I for one couldn't care less how we play as long as we get top four. Yes I too would of loved the title and for a while I believed like others it was going to be our year but it wasn't to be. Does that mean we stop believing and start bleating? Well I'm not going to, I'll try and shout them on too top four, financially it will do our club good and would like them to use it as a foundation for regular top four finishes, yes a title would make me ecstatic but there are possibly half a dozen teams with a good chance of getting there now, not this season obviously but on the whole, but only one team can win it. I hope this makes sense. Our team needs our support more than ever, let's road them over the line.

07 May 2017 21:07:21
Spot on, Poolie. Brilliant post! I don't care what the other teams do provided we win our games and if we do so, Arsenal and Utd can win all their games and it won't affect us in the final analysis. Early in the season when we couldn't win ugly, many slated Klopp. Now that we are knowing how to play and win ugly, they still complain. I guess Klopp can't win, right?

I was never on the "title chase" bandwagon as I knew that all the problems with this squad (all evidenced once again today) would prevent us from being competitive all the way to the end. The fact that with all the probs we have had (and still have) this season, we are still picking up points consistently (6 wins, 2 draws, one loss) in our chase for CL footie.

That is testament to Klopp and the players who have dug deep and won us the points we need and we are STILL 3rd even after City and Utd played their games in hand but it's not over yet. We got a point today and tho we could have gotten 3, we also could have gotten NONE and a loss would have been devastating. We need Saints to play the same way vs Arsenal on Wed and if they do that? Arsenal won't win and that would help us going into the weekend vs WH (another tough game) .

07 May 2017 17:21:39
With Man United losing 2-0 to Arsenal, it looks like, again, the results are going our way.

07 May 2017 21:12:14
One of them was going drop points hence, be near-eliminated from CL running so provided we did not lose, we were in good shape but I will say that the mancs getting rolled, is always a good day.

07 May 2017 17:13:07
Arsenal is leading 2-0,good for us.

07 May 2017 15:57:19
Would've been nice to see TAA have a go from the start today. Someone who it seems can actually get a cross in and provide width against a team we've struggled against several times this season.

07 May 2017 16:13:44
Klopp had the chance to play Ojo, Woodburn and TAA who can all offer width but has not done so since January's problems. What makes u think he is going to abandon his stubbornness now? Klopp is really testing a lot of fans' patience now.

07 May 2017 16:31:10
We only started struggling against soton when klopp took over. Its a klopp issue.

07 May 2017 16:36:09
A single point from two winnable home games. That's not encouraging signs. We have really let ourselves down.

07 May 2017 17:33:00
Yonne honest I think a draw was about that I expected. But we must win last 2. When watching today it was like watching a carbon copy of previous games. Teams set up them same. Are we not smart enough to find a way through?

07 May 2017 17:55:05
Grujic needs to get a chance next year, he has a real eye for goal and was unlucky not to get the winner today after only 5 mins on the pitch, if that had of gone in he would have to be in line to start ahead of wijnaldum or lucas.

07 May 2017 21:18:05
This game like others like it, have shown were we need to improve next season and it regards the wide positions (wide forward and FB's) . Saints knew we did not have the pace to get behind them and no end product to speak of, we are simply very easy to defend as we are too narrow. We just imply tried to find our way through and that would always be a tough task as it is too crowded in the middle. There was not much player personnel-wise, Klopp could do and a penalty was to me, the only way we could score and we blew that as well. Hence, a point was always going to be all we got and to me, it is important that if you can't win, you better NOT lose, at this stage of the season.

07 May 2017 15:45:59
Can I just point out to people that a game in hand does not mean 3 points.

If Arsenal win all 3 games then they are still a point behind. If United win their 2 they go a point ahead. This is two teams who are currently averaging less than 2 points a game and still have to play each other, and United then play Spurs!

For a start is impossible that they both win all their remaining games. The worst result for us today is a United win, but to be honest I'd say it has draw all over it. We have to take at least 4 points from our remaining 2 games and to be honest, that is pretty certain to be enough. Why do people think United and Arsenal are suddenly going to go from struggling to winning every game they have left?

We will always drop points (no team has ever won 38/ 38 games), we just have to drop less than our rivals. So let go of this "in our own hands" nonsense.

07 May 2017 16:08:50
But that means winning our games mk, something we can't.

07 May 2017 16:12:22
We can't get wins but MK, I think that's what's annoying to some of us fans. We've shown nothing today to make anyone think we'll win our next game, that's my concern mate.

07 May 2017 19:20:18
I agree. It is still a missed opportunity though.

07 May 2017 21:24:15
Ah I really hope we don't have to rely on our blue neighbours to beat Arsenal on the last day. we all know how happy they were to lose to City at our expense a few years back :-/.

07 May 2017 21:45:58
Mcgoveb if we can't get wins, what do you call us winning 3 points vs Watford, WB and Stoke? We are struggling at home I agree BUT we have been unlucky vs B'mouth and Saints and that can happen.

Of course it's a missed opportunity BUT that does not make what MK said, incorrect. Two things can be correct at the same time and we have seen that City and Utd who had and have played their games in hand, did NOT win any of them. We have the points, they don't and come Wed, we shall see what Arsenal does vs Saints cos if the Saints play the way they played vs us on Wed, Arsenal will NOT win.

07 May 2017 15:36:26
Most boring game of the season? I'm a big Klopp fan but I wish he'd make changes earlier when things quite clearly aren't going to plan.

07 May 2017 15:45:52
Yeah it's difficult for me mate. I agree with the changes sentiment but who do you take out of the starting lineup. We are at the end of the season, it's really dangerous to introduce someone who hasn't played much all season. I still think we will make it, and I think we need patience with Klopp. I'm frustrated too but changing managers has been the plan for the past 10 years and it hasn't worked at all. It's clear that Kloppo would have his choice of clubs waiting for his signature so it'd be crazy to give up on him after one season. That doesn't mean I'm overwhelming with joy at the job he's done so far, but you can see how much the players love the guy. One of few managers to be cheered off upon exiting the club. Patience is key. 2 games left, 6 points available. At least we didn't lose.

07 May 2017 15:51:07
I didn't understand starting Origi, he has been off form last few games, he needed to be dropped to the bench so he can step it up a bit to get back in the starting XI. Just didn't get the late substitutions, we didn't look threatening at all until the subs were made, did it really take until the 70th minute to figure out it wasn't working? We've been difficult to watch since new year (bar against top sides), I worry that Lovren's attitude is the general attitude of the team (not considering there anything to play for unless against a top side) . However you would have thought a place in the CL would be incentive enough. Fingers crossed we can get over the line, although, being totally honest, playing like this in the CL were not going to make it through the group stages.

07 May 2017 15:54:44
In answer to your first question Sturridge should start if fit. As much as I admire his strengths, Origi did nothing in the last 4 games to keep his place.

07 May 2017 15:58:07
Sorry I don't think I explained correctly, I was talking purely about subs. Sturridge looked far more lovely in that 20 minute cameo than origi has for the last three games. I agree though and think we will get top 4. Only because I think arsenal and united will mess up worse than us, rather then us taking it for ourselves.

07 May 2017 14:18:26
Like watching paint dry that first half. Studge and lallana on for 2nd half.

07 May 2017 15:30:22
We seem to be lacking belief.

No penetration, too much side to side.

If the goals were shifted to the halfway line on both wings we'd be world class.

We need arsenal and utd draw.

But how many chances do we deserve to make top 4 before we realise we are lacking in true quality.

Fair play to Milner for the interview afterwards.

07 May 2017 17:11:17
Agreed. Origi started the last 3 or 4 games and offered absolutely nothing sturridge got to start and if lallana fit enough for the bench he fit enough to start. West ham away next sunday won't be easy. Klopp should have changed it at half time today he needs to learn to admit when he gets it wrong.

07 May 2017 14:05:19
Well done Rafa.
YNWA.

07 May 2017 15:59:04
Wish Rafa wins PL with a good team.

He would have ECL, EL, Chapionship, Spanish league, .

Cheers.

07 May 2017 12:20:35
Quick question for ed01 if possible, as with most matches I spend the morning blasting out you'll never walk alone from you tube, from different matches, you can see when the crowd are so up for it, it really lifts the players, why can't we provide that atmosphere week in week out,

{Ed001's Note - because the crowd are not always up for it. Times have changed from the days when it was the sole focus of everyone's life and so you were just buzzing to get to the game. Nowadays there are hundreds of distractions and a large portion of the crowd are there just to see it through their camera phone, rather than experience it and be a part of it. If it is a big game against a rival, then it gets built up all week still. Otherwise, it gets kind of forgotten and hidden under the hype Sly make for whichever games they have covered that weekend.}

07 May 2017 10:04:15
Really hope we are genuinely interested in Kasper dolberg he is a mix between torres and Suarez.

07 May 2017 10:09:36
He will want regular 1st team football. Dolberg signing means the end for Origi at LFC.

07 May 2017 10:33:34
Indian why would it mean the end for Origi? We only have two fit strikers or are you assuming the studge and ings are going to get back to full fitness by the start of the new season.

07 May 2017 10:35:24
Or maybe Sturridge / Ings. Why would people worry about current players if the new signing is head and shoulders above them? Dolberg is a terrific player and would walk into most teams with ease!

07 May 2017 11:09:35
Ings will be back by October latest. Firmino is 1st choice, Origi will at least want to play when Firmino is not available so if Dolberg signs then Origi gets pushed back even further. Plus neither Origi nor Dolberg can play out wide effectively so its one or the other.
Personally if Dolberg was attainable, then I would choose him over Origi.

{Ed001's Note - Ings will not 'be back' for a year at least. No player comes back from an injury like that so quickly. It takes a long time to get anywhere near their best, sometimes years.}

07 May 2017 11:23:17
Dolberg has 20 goals in a shockingly poor league, playing for the best team in it.

He is just Depay/ Janssen/ Assaidi/ Bony Mk2. He'll get an inflated transfer to a big team, struggle to get in the team and get sold on after a season with a handful of goals.

Extraordinarily average player. In that division you should be hitting 30 plus a season with ease. Even Kuyt managed that and he was hardly clinical. Suarez scored 49 in his last season! That is over twice as many goals as Dolberg and yet he came to England and scored just 11 league goals in his first season, such was the jump in difficulty.

Dolberg should stay where he is for at least another 3 years or risk doing a "Milik" and becoming a bench warmer. If in 3 years he has developed well and is snoring 30-40 a season, then maybe he is worth considering.

People really need to consider the division he plays in. Wijnaldum was scoring over 20 a season in midfield!

07 May 2017 11:43:41
Consider that he's 19 as well MK and that he's a regular starter. He is not really like any of the players you mentioned either so I'm not sure the comparison other than as an example of players who did well in holland then came to England. If that's the case then there is quite a few players that came from the Dutch league and have done well in England. I'm not sure he's ready for our first team at all but I rate him. Like the op said he reminds me a lot of a young Torres. Nice turns and direct powerful running at defenders. I agree that he would be competing with origi but there's nothing wrong with healthy competition. Ings won't be back and up to full speed and match sharpness for ages if ever unfortunately and it looks like sturridge might leave which is sad. If anything it would hold Brewster back but he's only just made the move up to the u23's so that's ok for me. I'm torn between wanting him because I think he can be quality or wanting to sign a ready made front man. Because I like firmino there tbh.

{Ed001's Note - I have to say I quite like what I have seen of Dolberg, shame it is Everton that hold interest from Liverpool, not us.}

07 May 2017 12:00:29
and you’re basing this on? unless you can confidently say you watch Ajax play regularly I fail to see what input you can offer on the player. Fantastic talent especially for his age (just 19 years old) . Milik is back from a bad injury and will naturally take time to get back to his best, while wijnaldum never scored more then 14 goals league goals in a single season.

Great talent, shame we're not interested.

07 May 2017 12:45:34
Ed1, when you say that Ings won't 'be back' for at least a year, do you mean a year from now, or when he returns to full training?

Thanks.

{Ed001's Note - when he returns to training. It takes a long time after returning to training to get anywhere near their best. The latest research has shown that the brain alters its internal structure after a bad injury like that, which you then have to retrain to move normally.

Research paper on ACL injury

07 May 2017 12:46:29
Wijnaldum across 4 separate seasons (not on the bounce mind you) scored in all competitions 14, 20, 18 and 14 goals. His first 14 league goals was at 20 years old from central midfield in a team who at the time were behind Ajax and Twente in the league.

Dolberg plays for the best team in the division as an out and out striker and has 14 league goals with the season pretty much over.

Don't get me wrong, he has potential. I just don't think it is wise to sign a player from the Dutch league off the back of one average season. It is so weak defensively that even Chirivella has rocked up for one of the divisions light weights and started scoring goals!

I'm not rubbishing the kid, just think it is way too early for him to make the jump. He needs to have patience.

His goals have almost all come against the weaker teams in the Dutch league, the unusually average Europa league opposition, and against League 1 level teams in Champions league qualifiers.

You have to remember that the Dutch league is about the same level as the Premier League u23's league. I'd rather gamble on Harry Wilson or Rhian Brewster to be honest. At least if they don't live up to expectations it costs us nothing.

Far too early for Dolberg in my opinion. Maybe he goes to Everton next season and proves me wrong, but in my opinion he is a 5-10 goal a season player at best right now. He won't take us to the next level, and isn't even as good as our 4th choice Striker.

07 May 2017 14:26:54
Can't see origi becoming a first 11 player for us long term.

07 May 2017 05:27:22
Hey Ed's 001. Your life will never be the same again after today you lucky thing. Embrace the change babycakes. I promise you it will be a seminal and seismic moment in your existence! Look at me getting all exterstential in the morning. I'll be there soon lover get the kettle on.

{Ed001's Note - did I not mention I am out all day?}

07 May 2017 05:39:41
I'll find you lol.

{Ed001's Note - that's what I am worried about!}

07 May 2017 06:19:59
Funny you got here at the exact same time as the world's heaviest woman got here for surgery to reduce her weight.

06 May 2017 22:59:03
Hi ed001, just on a friendly visit from the United page. I've seen further down the page your remarks about Suarez. Can I ask what exactly went on behind the scenes with him? If you don't want to get into it that's fine. Just wandered as a lot of Liverpool fans I know have him on a pedastool and view him as a legend etc.
Cheers and good luck for the rest of the season!

{Ed001's Note - he was desperate to leave. He threatened to take the club to court to get a move to Arsenal, which he had to be talked down from. The other players, particularly Lucas, talked him round and he stayed another season. Then Barca came in for him, he wanted to go, told the club so, but a deal was not agreed, next thing you know he has bit someone. While we will never know if he did that deliberately to ensure the move went through or if he was just so frustrated about a move not happening he lost the plot, one thing is for sure, that ensured he got the move. He threatened the club with everything from going on strike to court action over his time, all just to get away. I will never understand why people support him.}

07 May 2017 05:47:15
Morals go out the window when a player can put the ball into the onion bag as good as suarez.

{Ed001's Note - that is extremely worrying.}

07 May 2017 07:44:02
It's because most people don't know about all this.

However, even though he was up to all this stuff behind the scenes, every time he stepped on the field he put more effort in than any other player on the pitch. For this reason, I don't really care that he wanted away. He was using Liverpool as a stepping stone, and he played so well for us that he got his dream ticket to get a contract playing for Barcelona. I have no hard feelings for him at all, and wish him the best, I really do. Delighted that he got the european golden boot, and I hope that he keeps banhing them in.

If.

{Ed001's Note - I really do not understand how anyone could not care that he treated the club with such disrespect and destroyed its image around the world.}

07 May 2017 08:36:51
To be fair it's not just the fans who's morals go out the window. There is quite a few there the club has made questionable decisions about players.
Signed suarez after he already bit a player.
Rah$$m when he was running around with his little gang, and then bashing his girlfriend should have been pushes out the door.

07 May 2017 08:55:51
Fortunately most people do care about the club and it's reputation.
We did the right thing getting shot of Suarez, the problem was we didn't replace him properly.

07 May 2017 10:33:15
Ron,

Which there are hardly anyone. Since his exit he has been the best CF in the world. I worry the same will happen when we loose Coutinho!

07 May 2017 10:47:59
Cheers for that ed, always a player on the pitch that I thought was truly world class but too much of a loose cannon. He was good to watch while he was here though.

{Ed001's Note - good to watch but a complete bell. Shame like. Talent like that should be admirable, but it is difficult to admire someone like him.}

07 May 2017 13:55:19
I would be happy to wager that having Saurez in the team increased Liverpool's fan base by an astronomical amount world wide. He is an exceptional talent, and there will be people wearing Liverpool shirts now that wouldn't have been if he hadn't played for us. He might have been a bit of a tw*t but he played like his life depended on it, and quite frankly I loved that about him. The world is full of flawed genius', and for a few years, he was ours. Off the field, he is a humble guy - a breath if fresh air from all the flash Harrys about the place.

On a side note, I have never heard a bad word from him about Liverpool since he left. He seems to truly have some love for the club. People who hold hate for him should take a look at the actions of players who just didn't give a to*s, the Aquillani's of this world.

Wasn't supposed to be a rant, but am a bit pissed, sorry.

06 May 2017 20:22:48
Ed001 - opinion on Peter Crouch? Always scored big goals for us and maybe underrated as a technical player.

{Ed001's Note - always better technically than he looked, but he lacked that killer touch needed to be a truly top striker. He should have scored a lot more goals than he did and that stopped him from being what he should have been. He was a very good Prem level striker though, even though he lacked pace and was never particularly good in the air, despite his height.}

07 May 2017 09:21:04
I know it's not what you want from a striker but we conceded so many fewer goals when he was on the pitch. I for one was gutted when we sold him and replaced him with Robbie Keane.